#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk | GTFO | Page 152

chrome sparrow Oct 19, 2020, 5:21 AM

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how do i sync my rgbs on mb, gpu, case fans, and cooler?

vapid crypt Oct 19, 2020, 5:40 AM

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You would need some splitter cables or an RGB controller that connects to the ARGB headers on the motherboard, I guess there's different methods technically.

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And yeah AMD is definitely pulling the money and mindshare now, Oh wow they were at 50% share comparing high end CPUs back in April

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Not Threadripper, but the uh Ryzen 9s

lilac geyser Oct 19, 2020, 5:45 AM

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is there no single program that can control rbg on whatever hardware is connected?

vapid crypt Oct 19, 2020, 5:46 AM

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There is, I unfortunately do not recall it's name atm

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I found this one called Jacknet RGB Sync, it isn't the same one I was thinking of; but it serves the same purpose https://rgbsync.com/

proper wren Oct 19, 2020, 7:41 AM

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ASUS announced RTX 3090 STRIX Gundam edition

dense wasp Oct 19, 2020, 7:45 AM

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haha I saw that

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I kinda like it tho

proper wren Oct 19, 2020, 8:03 AM

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noticing a price increase in used rtx 2060 super cards and higher since its rare in computer stores now.

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I sold my 2070 for 540 and now used one going up 650+ in Canadian Dollars

fleet canopy Oct 19, 2020, 8:07 AM

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Sounds ebic. Sell my 2070 Super for a 3080 or 3070

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Or whatever AMD has

proper wren Oct 19, 2020, 8:13 AM

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rx 570 8gb uwu

fleet canopy Oct 19, 2020, 8:24 AM

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Canadian 9900K is 50% off in micro center I guess

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I want to say it’s also USD but the micro center price was 700$ to 300$ on sale

dense wasp Oct 19, 2020, 8:39 AM

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wonder if the 5900 will be the new king of the throne regarding gaming, I guess?

fleet canopy Oct 19, 2020, 8:41 AM

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Ya mean 5950X

dense wasp Oct 19, 2020, 8:44 AM

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I actually didn't since the single core clock speed is faster on the 5900 if I'm not misstaken?

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If we're talking gaming specifically

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we're using ryzen3000 in our dev-computers now,
and me personally the 3950x as I've been talking about here a lot 🙂
so will be cool getting even better performance going forward

eternal cairn Oct 19, 2020, 8:51 AM

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Yeah, 5950x is just more cores.

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I personally don't see much of a reason from upgrading since I already have a 3900x. The boost speeds are marginal.

fleet canopy Oct 19, 2020, 8:53 AM

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Better gayming

dense wasp Oct 19, 2020, 11:40 AM

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for me it's just for science 😄

nimble anvil Oct 19, 2020, 1:24 PM

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No point in upgrading to AMD if you have a 10ghz overclocked, liquid nitrogen cooled i9 10900k

jade surge Oct 19, 2020, 1:53 PM

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@lilac geyser what MB are you using? Depending on MB and fans you might be able to find one from that vendor. I am using Thermal Take RGB fans and they have a RGB control utility for all of them. But Jacknet might be able to work for you. But depending on the vendor that makes the RGB, it might not be supported.

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Yes, there is an all around boost from ZEN 2 to ZEN 3 but if he is using a 3900X right now he will be more than fine and really doesn't need to upgrade to ZEN 3. He can definitely wait until he really needs to upgrade and by then the prices for ZEN 3 will have dropped. I mean he only really has one upgrade path left from ZEN 2 because AM4 sockets will end support with ZEN 3. I would just wait it out and see what happens. Hell, for me I am probably gonna go with the 3900X when it drops in price and just wait until ZEN 4, the new AMD socket and chipsets are released. Now if you are using chip for more than just gaming then i could see upgrading to ZEN 3 cause the IPC increase might be well worth it for you with the high core count. If not then I see it as a waste of money.

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@nimble anvil I find your brand of trolling refreshing. I mean it's not too invasive. It's just enough to make people think and it sparks thoughtful conversation

nimble anvil Oct 19, 2020, 2:38 PM

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fanks

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i love you too

vapid crypt Oct 19, 2020, 3:41 PM

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The 5950X has 2 8 core CCXs where as the 5900X is using 2 loser 6 core CCXs. We know which one is the better one PirateSimon

pine lion Oct 19, 2020, 4:51 PM

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Idk, I’m willing to say defeat with overall spec’s upon amd vs intel, but I lost all respect for amd with the amount of driver compatibility in some cases, just had intel for years and years, I don’t think I’ll ever switch.

fleet canopy Oct 19, 2020, 4:53 PM

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That’s pretty understandable. I switched from my 7700K to a 3700X and have had no problems with it so far except OC which seems to be the motherboard’s fault

vapid crypt Oct 19, 2020, 4:53 PM

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Driver compatibility? What's that have to do with CPUs?

merry bay Oct 19, 2020, 4:54 PM

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GPU's might be on shaky ground, everyone in my circles with Ryzen CPU's seem very satisfied though

fleet canopy Oct 19, 2020, 4:54 PM

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Just because their GPU is poo in drivers doesn’t mean it’s poo in cpu

vapid crypt Oct 19, 2020, 4:55 PM

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Its not even the drivers really, it was a hardware issue largely. With the Radeon division at that, absolutely nothing to do with Ryzen

vapid crypt Oct 19, 2020, 8:02 PM

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Rocket Lake rumor https://twitter.com/OneRaichu/status/1318242029432754176

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I don't entirely understand how the i7 and i9 are the same core and thread count, but there's an alleged difference there

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I figure that if they were gonna reduce core counts back to 8 that they would be skipping i9 for a generation

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But here we are, I guess it's gonna be another 3700X and 3800X situation in a way phaWesker

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Except at least the 3700X is a 65w part phaSip

pine lion Oct 19, 2020, 9:45 PM

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@vapid crypt technically CPU’s don’t need drivers but windows had tons of compatibility issues over the years, recently I’d have to say there hasn’t been any, amd gpu‘s had a few issues recently but I do believe that the popularity of amd gpu’s doesn’t really effect the general population.

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Just like intel, I fell into the Corsair game lol..

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jade surge Oct 20, 2020, 12:12 AM

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is that the Lian Li PC O11

vapid crypt Oct 20, 2020, 12:13 AM

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Sure seems to be

jade surge Oct 20, 2020, 12:13 AM

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well there are a few look a likes

vapid crypt Oct 20, 2020, 12:14 AM

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I can only think of two, the uh Phanteks offbrand version I forgot what that brand is called

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And the Antec P120 Crystal, which has a top mounted power supply

jade surge Oct 20, 2020, 12:16 AM

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the Phanteks company is MetallicGear NEO Qube

vapid crypt Oct 20, 2020, 12:16 AM

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Yes that's it

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Though logically speaking, full kitted out Corsair fans and an RTX FE card; it's most likely the o11 Dynamic PirateSimon

fleet canopy Oct 20, 2020, 12:28 AM

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Hm.

jade surge Oct 20, 2020, 1:32 AM

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I don't know but the Lian Li PC O11 is pretty sexy

pine lion Oct 20, 2020, 2:51 AM

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@jade surge yes, it's O11

jade surge Oct 20, 2020, 2:52 AM

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how do you like it

pine lion Oct 20, 2020, 2:52 AM

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I plan to eventually go full water cooling, but best 100$ I spent on a case.

jade surge Oct 20, 2020, 2:52 AM

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yeah, the distro plate is pretty sexy

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hardline or soft tube

pine lion Oct 20, 2020, 2:53 AM

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Hardline, clear. Wanna build a green and black theme.

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Spec's i9 10900K, 32GB 3200, 2080ti, Cooled on an Corsair Cappellix aio 360mm, and 6 ML 120's and 3 Static Pressure fans. all corsair.

jade surge Oct 20, 2020, 2:59 AM

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I am thinking red and black and possibly one other color. I want to have a loop for the CPU and a loop for the GPU

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although i may go with the TT tower 900

pine lion Oct 20, 2020, 3:07 AM

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gotcha, yeah sound's decent either way.

fleet canopy Oct 20, 2020, 3:08 AM

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Red, black, and green?

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Now you got RGB :)

pine lion Oct 20, 2020, 3:10 AM

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Black and green for me.

restive garnet Oct 20, 2020, 5:08 AM

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imo, dont do colored coolant

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stains the crap out of your loop, and some will leave massive gunk build up in blocks and radiators

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if you really want your coolant to glow, probably worth getting RGB fittings or rings

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thermaltake have fittings, though i have heard they arent great as far as fittings go, and alphacool sells rings, but they are designed to fit around their proprietary tubing size

fleet canopy Oct 20, 2020, 5:15 AM

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I'm sure with the amount of RGB you're going to add, the light will make the clear tubing have reflections

restive garnet Oct 20, 2020, 5:15 AM

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it will, but it can be a little bit inconsistent

fleet canopy Oct 20, 2020, 5:15 AM

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Maybe, idk

restive garnet Oct 20, 2020, 5:15 AM

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hence why i said if you really want it to glow

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its the difference between the light from multiple sources reflecting off the outside of the tubes, and light from a single source refracting from inside the tubes

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if you really want, you can even sand the outside of the tubes with high grit sand paper

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gives it a really nice frosted look

vapid crypt Oct 20, 2020, 12:47 PM

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So we got power numbers for Big Navi, the biggest AIB cards are pushing 355W. That's Base 3090 numbers. The lowest Navi 21 card is starting at 290w, so I was off by a sku what can I say. I guess AMD decided to push clocks last minute seeing as the 355W cards are hitting 2.4Ghz

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https://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-6000-big-navi-gpu-power-numbers-detailed-navi-21-xt-320w-navi-21-xl-290w/

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Assuming that their performance lines up with Nvidia based on power draw, and seeing as their architecture is most likely more efficient; the 290W card is likely the one they showed at the Ryzen event. Cause it was just under the 3080 in terms of performance phaSheva

jade ermine Oct 20, 2020, 1:38 PM

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AMD for poors

jade surge Oct 20, 2020, 1:40 PM

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AMD is for those that don't like to throw away their money. As long as the drivers work properly

jade ermine Oct 20, 2020, 1:46 PM

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I take back what i said if its better than 3080

jade surge Oct 20, 2020, 1:47 PM

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well being better is only good if the drivers are not an issue this time

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I will be fine if it's a little less than the 3080 and the price is lower

vapid crypt Oct 20, 2020, 1:47 PM

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If they are an issue then all their work with Sony and Microsoft engineers were for naught

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And yeah it was mainly a hardware thing again

jade surge Oct 20, 2020, 1:48 PM

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hopefully they did iron them out cause if the Xbox and PS5 also have issues AMD will have burned too many people to possibly recover from it

vapid crypt Oct 20, 2020, 1:49 PM

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Radeon Technology Group more like it

jade surge Oct 20, 2020, 2:22 PM

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yes, it is the Radeon Group but ultimately it will be seen as AMD cause that's who they are under

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well, we shall see next week what really is being released

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the 28th will be a good day

vapid crypt Oct 20, 2020, 6:08 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaKu83DyHnU RDNA2 SKUs confirmed to be 6900XT, 6800XT and 6800. No 6700 cards until next quarter it seems, guess I'm waiting till then phaWesker

nimble anvil Oct 20, 2020, 6:16 PM

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Or maybe their card is less power efficient

vapid crypt Oct 20, 2020, 6:17 PM

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Well let's look at that seriously though

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If you have 5120 shaders, that's 80 compute units clocked at 2.4Ghz and drawing 355W that's already more efficient than the 3090

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What's the fastest clocked 3080 and 3090 respectively?

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I'm not even seeing a card come close to 2Ghz on Ampere

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And the 3090s are all sub 1800Mhz

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Whatever AMD intends to compete with the 3080 is easily boosting to around 2Ghz, and consuming the same amount of power. Now granted, you can easily undervolt a 3080 and keep most of its performance while drawing 100w less; see that's the cost of Nvidia pushing their cards hard. Ironically they pulled a Radeon

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That's what Radeon always does with their cards

nimble anvil Oct 20, 2020, 6:28 PM

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Red bad, green good

vapid crypt Oct 20, 2020, 6:31 PM

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Red and Green together makes Christmas PirateSimon

eternal cairn Oct 20, 2020, 6:40 PM

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LOL

eternal cairn Oct 20, 2020, 7:17 PM

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I would wait for AMD, but scalpers aren't.

vapid crypt Oct 20, 2020, 7:25 PM

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According to the video, AMD is taking bot protection very seriously

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Not that it's infallible but still, as long as there's actually adequate stock and the bot protection holds off most of them; then it will be a hell of a lot better than the Ampere shitshow

nimble anvil Oct 20, 2020, 7:58 PM

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You seem to like AMD a lot. A bit sus if you ask me

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I think you're the imposter

vapid crypt Oct 20, 2020, 8:31 PM

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I dunno what you're talking about, I was in Electrical fixing wires PirateSimon

eternal cairn Oct 20, 2020, 8:32 PM

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I was talking about the scalpers not waiting on the 3070. Can't wait several months for that.

vapid crypt Oct 20, 2020, 8:32 PM

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On the 3070 huh? I think there's actually gonna be stock for them though

eternal cairn Oct 20, 2020, 8:34 PM

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Yeah, but scalpers will probably still buy them all out anyway. As long as there's no security implementations to enforce a "1 per customer" rule, they might not sell out as quickly as the 3080/3090, but they'll still sell out pretty fast.

oak depot Oct 21, 2020, 12:11 AM

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Nah the audience for the 70s is so much larger than the 80 and 90s

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It's gonna be worse

vapid crypt Oct 21, 2020, 12:16 AM

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Possibly, yeah. As long as their stock falls short of demand and they've been implying it kind of will be. I've heard that there will be plenty of 3080 and 3070 Stock for next month, but it's all rumor so who knows

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I think that just means better availability, but maybe best case you might have a better chance of buying one than a 3080 atm.

pine lion Oct 21, 2020, 1:46 AM

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Tbh if your not getting a 3090, shoot for a 1080ti or 2080ti

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70 will match 2080super.

jade surge Oct 21, 2020, 1:58 AM

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So much conjecture. I cant wait to see what actually happens

fleet canopy Oct 21, 2020, 2:19 AM

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Pretty sure the 3070 was supposed to be matched with a 2080 Ti on 1440p gamery

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But seeing how they fucked up 1440p gaming and only did well in 4K for the 80 and 90, ehh

vapid crypt Oct 21, 2020, 2:21 AM

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Nvidia promising "better than 2080Ti performance" on the 3070 is pretty much <4k with RTX, otherwise it's a wash; probably roughly the same or slightly slower depending

fleet canopy Oct 21, 2020, 2:58 AM

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Eh, I don't think it'd be doing on 4K, more likely just 1440p because the bit bus isn't the same iirc

vapid crypt Oct 21, 2020, 3:06 AM

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I don't either hence "<" PirateSimon

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And yes the 3070 has much less bandwidth and no Cache magic to show for it like AMD, so they're not gonna be pushing it as a 4k card of course

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Even if it can kinda do it to a certain extent I'm sure

dense wasp Oct 21, 2020, 7:48 AM

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oh, I might be able to get my hands on 3090

clear quartz Oct 21, 2020, 9:08 AM

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i still say lets wait for big navi to show us what they got

jade ermine Oct 21, 2020, 10:25 AM

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@vapid crypt 3070 with RTX ON is probably better than 2080Ti. In normal rasterization it's going to be worse. I just don't see it being better lol

jade surge Oct 21, 2020, 2:43 PM

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I mean if you are paying way too much for way too little performance increase then i mean go for it

pine lion Oct 21, 2020, 3:07 PM

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I mean, Nvidia straight up always makes there benches look better then what they really are, 3080 is only 10-15% better depending on game engine, which means if we follow suit 3070 should be 5%-10%

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Not to mention 3060 has yet to be officially released, and according to some leaks “ti” cards as well are coming,

vapid crypt Oct 21, 2020, 3:40 PM

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I think it will be about equal on Raster, even if it's sometimes losing by 5% or something. 5% is a wash

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And yeah a 3060Ti allegedly exists, it's a cutdown 3070. 20% less shaders so expect about 15% less performance depending phaSheva

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Basically 2080 Super huh? phaWesker

jade surge Oct 21, 2020, 4:15 PM

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I think Nvidia is trying too much this time. They are going to Saturate the market TOO much and consumers will get turned off and switch to AMD

vapid crypt Oct 21, 2020, 4:27 PM

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Hmm, I don't think that's true. They did that with Turing and no one really cared

jade surge Oct 21, 2020, 4:47 PM

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you don't have to think it's true. Just look at all the cards and their variants

vapid crypt Oct 21, 2020, 4:49 PM

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I know that they segment too much, who knows what their strategy is with it

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But my point is consoomers don't care, they know Nvidia as making the fastest graphics cards; so they pick a price point and go with whatever is there.

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Though speaking of Nvidia, Jim just uploaded a video talking about the 3090 and how it's claims as a Titan doesn't hold water https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s23GvbQfyLA

merry bay Oct 21, 2020, 5:53 PM

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Since when is having products in more price classes a turn-off? LULW

vapid crypt Oct 21, 2020, 5:55 PM

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I guess the turn off is having 3 different 1660 cards for example

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Also come to think of it, the 16XX cards in general. Way to lay on the confusion further phaWesker

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People honestly think there's going to be 26XX cards now because of that, which is kinda funny

merry bay Oct 21, 2020, 6:36 PM

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that really was an oddball tbf. I looked at them as a 1060 tier card. A series that was already quite convoluted.

vapid crypt Oct 21, 2020, 6:39 PM

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That was the intention since they brought up the price on the 2060

jade surge Oct 21, 2020, 6:40 PM

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Essentially there is nothing wrong with having products in different price classes. It's when you start putting too many different cards and there is not much even that much different. Nvidia did this with the ti and super variants as well as the 16 and the 20 series

abstract kite Oct 21, 2020, 8:52 PM

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@abstract kite

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jolly sapphire Oct 21, 2020, 8:53 PM

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Ye you should be good I can run it just fine and that stuff better than mine

vapid crypt Oct 22, 2020, 12:59 AM

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3070 AOTS leaked Benchmark, looks like it's pretty much matching the 2080Ti as I expected https://twitter.com/_rogame/status/1319026872794177537

jade surge Oct 22, 2020, 1:45 AM

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I mean come on Nvidia, I like how they are trying to flood all performance points. It's gonna ge a good showdown this GPU cycle

fleet canopy Oct 22, 2020, 1:45 AM

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2560x1080 or 2560x1440? PirateSimon

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Unless it really is 2560x1080p and not a mistake

jade surge Oct 22, 2020, 2:00 AM

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well, if what he says on his tweeter feed is correct then it's pretty much even in 1080 and 1440(beating out by a frame or two really is not beating(Technically)). and 4k is the same by one frame less. Still I am curious if that is with Raytracing on or off?

fleet canopy Oct 22, 2020, 2:15 AM

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It didn't say RT so uhh

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Guess it isn't

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It says DX12, which isn't raytracing

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That'd be DXR

vapid crypt Oct 22, 2020, 4:00 AM

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Well it's 4k on AOTS a 4 year old pretty well optimized game

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I don't think 4k results will be as good in more recent games

fleet canopy Oct 22, 2020, 4:03 AM

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Someone saying 3070 = 2080 Ti in rasterization, 3070 > 2080 Ti in RTX

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So I guess it's just a better RTX version of a 2080 Ti then

vapid crypt Oct 22, 2020, 4:04 AM

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That is pretty much the only way that Nvidia can say "Faster than 2080Ti" and it be true

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Because Muh RTX

fleet canopy Oct 22, 2020, 4:04 AM

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I mean, it is better in RTX

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And more better in price to performance at least

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Still shit power draw though

vapid crypt Oct 22, 2020, 4:05 AM

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Um yeah for a 70 card Kind of

fleet canopy Oct 22, 2020, 4:05 AM

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Maybe not, they'll probably have it alright for 3070

vapid crypt Oct 22, 2020, 4:05 AM

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It's an improvement over the 2080Ti technically

fleet canopy Oct 22, 2020, 4:05 AM

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Yeah

vapid crypt Oct 22, 2020, 4:05 AM

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It still draws less power than that

fleet canopy Oct 22, 2020, 4:06 AM

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Not too bad I guess

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I must get off now though, it's 12AM

vapid crypt Oct 22, 2020, 4:07 AM

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Navi 22 might potentially perform about as well while consuming less power possibly

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Maybe not though since they gotta push clockspeeds quite a bit to do it though

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It is 40CU, in terms of shader count that would fall between the 3060Ti and 3070

pine lion Oct 22, 2020, 9:19 AM

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RTX is superly overrated, not enough full support in game's just yet, and a lot of people with 2080ti will still upgrade regardless of bench, it's the same thing like intel for me even though AMD benches better then intel, I'll still go intel, the point is if your on a 10 series card and going upgrade 3070 is an awesome upgrade the problem is card availability which we all know is going to be nearly impossible to get, and ton's of seller's across marketplace platform's are still trying to sell 20/10 series for way above proper value, my wife's pc had an EVGA 2060 that I listed for 240$ I was seeing 1660ti's listed for that, if someone want's and great idea for a investment, make a KBB of value that people can trust and go against when buying something on a marketplace... lol.

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Just want to add that I think that 1080p gaming is still a better way to go instead of 4k

dusty pumice Oct 22, 2020, 10:13 AM

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1080p lets talk about 1440p instead!

dense wasp Oct 22, 2020, 10:13 AM

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I think It'll get a bump in next gen games due to the consoles, RTX that is.

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especially if DLSS 2.0 delivers as well as they want it do

vapid crypt Oct 22, 2020, 1:18 PM

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The thing about that is the consoles are using DXR, specifically Microsoft's open source version of Ray Tracing. Right now RTX is entirely proprietary, though I did hear Nvidia might be opening it for Vulkan or something

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I guess there's something about that https://developer.nvidia.com/blog/vulkan-raytracing/

strong whale Oct 22, 2020, 4:27 PM

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How would that even work, raytracing is gpu bound, vulkan helps push more load onto the cpu to assist in performance

vapid crypt Oct 22, 2020, 4:44 PM

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Does it? I thought it was the opposite? Anyway in any case it looks like that post explains it pretty much

hearty tulip Oct 22, 2020, 9:05 PM

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Sorry if this has come up, but I was curious about my FPS and some in game settings. I am running 2 monitors, a RTX 2070 super. Regardless if I'm on my 4K or not monitor, and if settings are all on low, or all on max, I run at exactly 30 FPS. This was not true before this launch (RD4). My friend who's running on a 1660 is getting better FPS than I am, which is fine, it's just really curious that I can't get a change in FPS regardless of where my graphics settings are. I made sure to extend my cap to 999 also, so that's not the problem either @_@

fleet canopy Oct 22, 2020, 9:08 PM

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Game ain't so optimized that well PirateSimon that's the major flaw in this game imo

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Rest else being content wise is fine

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But this game really needs to have optimization regarding how PC performs in this game

hearty tulip Oct 22, 2020, 9:09 PM

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yeah, just bizarre that my friend, who is running a much older, less well spec's comp is running in game at ~120, and I'm hard capped at 30.

fleet canopy Oct 22, 2020, 9:10 PM

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He's got like a 1080p monitor?

twilit lily Oct 22, 2020, 9:10 PM

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Have you checked your refresh rate and see if the new update has set a cap on that while running vsync at the same time

vapid crypt Oct 22, 2020, 9:10 PM

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Hard capped at 30 on 4k only?

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Does changing resolutions have effect?

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You have to restart the game to do so as well, at least in the case of GTFO

hearty tulip Oct 22, 2020, 9:11 PM

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on both a 2660 and a 4K monitor, changing resolution and all graphics settings doesn't change it at all. Still hard stuck

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that frame rate only waffles when loading into the drop then goes right back

fleet canopy Oct 22, 2020, 9:12 PM

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Wack

hearty tulip Oct 22, 2020, 9:12 PM

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@twilit lily no, I have not checked my monitor refresh rate against that

vapid crypt Oct 22, 2020, 9:12 PM

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Did you just get the game?

hearty tulip Oct 22, 2020, 9:12 PM

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no, I was running in RD3 also

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did all levels

vapid crypt Oct 22, 2020, 9:12 PM

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Okay so this is a recent issue following this update

hearty tulip Oct 22, 2020, 9:13 PM

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at one point I was running between 90 and 180 FPS in RD3

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I assume that there's something weird in my hardware. I guess I was hoping to be able to pass this along to a Dev as well, because I am sure I'm not the only one experiencing this, and I am to imagine, since I recently built this computer, and it's not my first, that I should be running this game better than I am.

fleet canopy Oct 22, 2020, 9:17 PM

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It's not hardware

twilit lily Oct 22, 2020, 9:17 PM

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I'll boot it up on my computer, haven't played this update yet and I'll see if mine has a similar performance

fleet canopy Oct 22, 2020, 9:17 PM

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It's just that GTFO sucks when it comes to having good FPS

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I guess it's more of a hit or miss with performance on GTFO now with the updates

hearty tulip Oct 22, 2020, 9:19 PM

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Thank for the thoughts! (Wish there was better news, but I'll stick with for now!)

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@twilit lily Definitely let me know if you come across anything interesting

dense wasp Oct 22, 2020, 9:23 PM

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Well, I wouldn’t say that being stuck at 30 FPS would be due to bad optimization, sounds like something else is going on as well there.

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Not saying the game is perfect, but that sounds pretty odd

hearty tulip Oct 22, 2020, 9:24 PM

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yeah, I just can't figure out what, and it's only this game. I run most at 100+

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that's why I thought I'd hop in here and ask around. Like I said, I just can't get it to adjust one direction or the other regardless of settings

dense wasp Oct 22, 2020, 9:25 PM

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What full screen setting are you running? In gtfo that is

hearty tulip Oct 22, 2020, 9:25 PM

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depends on the monitor

dense wasp Oct 22, 2020, 9:26 PM

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I’ve heard some getting stuck with very bad results in fullscreen window for instance

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Have you tried unplugging the second monitor btw? Not saying it’s a valid solution in the long run, just in error searching

hearty tulip Oct 22, 2020, 9:27 PM

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I've tried all full screen modes, and all resolutions, and changed all settings, antialiasing, vsync, etc... and it still just stays at the 30-29-30 waver

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I did try unplugging the second monitor as well, yes.

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and honestly, the game runs fine at 30FPS, and I'm still crazy excited to play the new rundown, I was just VERY surprised and wanted to ask around about this.

void perch Oct 22, 2020, 9:29 PM

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That's weird that it's a steady 30fps. not sure if I saw, but is there any target framerate set on it?

dense wasp Oct 22, 2020, 9:29 PM

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obviously something odd going on thou, with your system you should get alot more

hearty tulip Oct 22, 2020, 9:30 PM

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the target is set to 999

dense wasp Oct 22, 2020, 9:30 PM

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hows the performance tab in task manager?

void perch Oct 22, 2020, 9:30 PM

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what about resetting the gtfo_settings.txt file and going with the default settings?

dense wasp Oct 22, 2020, 9:30 PM

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and for the fun of it:
have you tried deleting your settings file?

void perch Oct 22, 2020, 9:30 PM

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wow, so slow ludvig

dense wasp Oct 22, 2020, 9:30 PM

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haha

void perch Oct 22, 2020, 9:31 PM

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or good minds think alike?

dense wasp Oct 22, 2020, 9:31 PM

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probably both

hearty tulip Oct 22, 2020, 9:31 PM

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CPU 6% Memory 31%, GPU 40%

dense wasp Oct 22, 2020, 9:31 PM

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Fine

hearty tulip Oct 22, 2020, 9:31 PM

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no, how do I reset the txt file?

dense wasp Oct 22, 2020, 9:31 PM

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just delete it

void perch Oct 22, 2020, 9:31 PM

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Press the Windows Key and the R key at some time. This will open a "Run" dialog.
Inside put the following in:
%userprofile%\AppData\LocalLow\

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Go there, delete the file

dense wasp Oct 22, 2020, 9:32 PM

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you missed a bit on the adress? 😄

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LocalLow\10 Chambers Collective\GTFO

fleet canopy Oct 22, 2020, 9:33 PM

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D0cR3d made a mistake????? Whoa!!

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So is he even robot????

dense wasp Oct 22, 2020, 9:33 PM

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I gave him flaws to appear more humanlike

fleet canopy Oct 22, 2020, 9:33 PM

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Fair enough

dense wasp Oct 22, 2020, 9:34 PM

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what CPU you running Born?

void perch Oct 22, 2020, 9:35 PM

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I need to make a shortcut for getting logs and deleting the settings file

hearty tulip Oct 22, 2020, 9:35 PM

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AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 12 COre

dense wasp Oct 22, 2020, 9:36 PM

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yeah then 30 is just weird

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😄

hearty tulip Oct 22, 2020, 9:36 PM

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and deleting the settings.txt did not change it

fleet canopy Oct 22, 2020, 9:36 PM

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Smh

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You need the 3950X or 5900X with a 3090 or AMD variant/better

dense wasp Oct 22, 2020, 9:37 PM

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3090 or AMD variant? lol

fleet canopy Oct 22, 2020, 9:37 PM

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RTX 3090

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Or AMD variant

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Not sure what the word is lol

dense wasp Oct 22, 2020, 9:37 PM

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yeah, cause AMD has a graphic card in that segment? 😄

fleet canopy Oct 22, 2020, 9:38 PM

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*Well, they're going to have a 6900XT PirateSimon

dense wasp Oct 22, 2020, 9:38 PM

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hearty tulip Oct 22, 2020, 9:38 PM

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@_@, yeah somehow, I don't think that's my problem 😢

fleet canopy Oct 22, 2020, 9:38 PM

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Ryzen 9 6900X + Radeon 6900XT

dense wasp Oct 22, 2020, 9:38 PM

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well, granted I'm not running 4k,
but on one of my rigs, with a 3600x with a 1080ti, running all high, at 1440p,
I get a solid 140 fps

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or okay I lied, 136-138

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so your 3900 + 2070 super should perform a lot better than 30

hearty tulip Oct 22, 2020, 9:40 PM

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at 1920 x 1080 I'm still sitting strong at 30 lol

dense wasp Oct 22, 2020, 9:40 PM

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brb, pregnant wife needs an evening walk to be able to sleep.. :)
I'll hit you up later Born and we'll do some debugging

hearty tulip Oct 22, 2020, 9:40 PM

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Thank you so much for the time!

dense wasp Oct 22, 2020, 9:40 PM

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no worries !

hearty tulip Oct 22, 2020, 9:50 PM

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Okay, so, friend had the same issue, and it is a Vsync issue the required reverify game file integrity or reinstall of the game, then re-turning off V-Sync. That worked for me and now I'm at 250+ FPS.

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When I did the v-sync originally nothing happened, but after game file integrity, and then turning off V-Sync it fixed it. Thanks everyone, who knows lol, appreciate all the support and super quick responses

twilit lily Oct 22, 2020, 9:52 PM

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Yeah okay that's good. I just tried it and running everything max at 1440, I'm getting 90-110 frames

dense wasp Oct 22, 2020, 10:21 PM

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interesting, glad to hear it was solved @hearty tulip

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thought it was strange with 30 fps..

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Early access game or not 😄

cloud plover Oct 22, 2020, 11:04 PM

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guys i have a porlbem with the game

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its constently not focus idk how to explain it if im looking around its just blurry

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do you know what i can do?

vapid crypt Oct 22, 2020, 11:10 PM

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Head over to #gtfo-technical-support put some images there and maybe others can help you out there as well

wise pumice Oct 22, 2020, 11:10 PM

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Is there motion blur

cloud plover Oct 22, 2020, 11:14 PM

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thx

hearty tulip Oct 23, 2020, 1:13 AM

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@cloud plover make sure your using your native monitor resolution, if I run in anything else the game gets very blurry!

eternal cairn Oct 23, 2020, 1:53 AM

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Better internet feels great.

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twilit lily Oct 23, 2020, 2:04 AM

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Damn, and here I am stuck with 30mbps download :((

vapid crypt Oct 23, 2020, 2:04 AM

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I wish my ISP would give me better upload speeds, but it seems like it's 10 up forever phaWesker

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fleet canopy Oct 23, 2020, 2:13 AM

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Crazy lowass upload

stark plover Oct 23, 2020, 2:33 AM

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imagine not having 0 ping

fleet canopy Oct 23, 2020, 2:37 AM

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Those speeds, hm

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We need D0c to compete against thist

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Maybe I could be far off

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But whatever

void perch Oct 23, 2020, 2:49 AM

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I've had almost 1GB up/down and 1ms ping before, but i have 2 servers running with intensive tasks going on right now

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fleet canopy Oct 23, 2020, 2:49 AM

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But 0 ping

abstract kite Oct 23, 2020, 2:55 AM

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Did you guys hear about AMD's new product: || StickBug ||?

fleet canopy Oct 23, 2020, 2:55 AM

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Yeah

abstract kite Oct 23, 2020, 2:56 AM

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Pretty exciting right?

fleet canopy Oct 23, 2020, 2:59 AM

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Yeah

vapid crypt Oct 23, 2020, 3:03 AM

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6 days remember PirateSimon

eternal cairn Oct 23, 2020, 3:16 AM

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Gotta beat those scalpers.

lilac geyser Oct 23, 2020, 3:21 AM

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comcast has a 2 gig plan here, i think they wanted 2k to install it when i looked at it a few years ago

rain folio Oct 23, 2020, 4:36 AM

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the big NAVI

livid jasper Oct 23, 2020, 4:53 AM

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Ik im not installing gtfo but i wonder what could be causing this?

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Is this normal?

merry bay Oct 23, 2020, 4:59 AM

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downloading a smaller file, then decompressing. Not uncommon, very hard to notice

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most commonly noticed on patches, because it looks like it's refusing to download and it's stuck or something, when it's actually normal

spiral fulcrum Oct 23, 2020, 9:24 AM

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alright so a friend was having a "network connection issue" with gtfo, has there been a fix for that yet or no?

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ah, pardon me, I'll go to the gtfo tech support chat, just noticed it

proper wren Oct 23, 2020, 9:51 AM

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Jayz2cents putting 5" LCD screen in his new personal rig

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Kizungry

cloud plover Oct 23, 2020, 12:24 PM

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@hearty tulip thx i will check my options

pine lion Oct 23, 2020, 1:12 PM

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@lilac geyser I hate Comcast.

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Fios I’d much rather prefer, but while my house is being constructed I’m stuck with them.

vapid crypt Oct 23, 2020, 1:54 PM

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That's my ISP, can't even give me 20 up at least? Come on now phaWesker

vapid crypt Oct 23, 2020, 2:37 PM

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This is looking pretty good, Ray tracing performance is about where I expected it though phaSheva

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Oh here's a article that puts multiple results next to eachother https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-radeon-rx-6800xt-alleged-3dmark-scores-hit-the-web

round beacon Oct 23, 2020, 3:14 PM

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sry i have a problem Network error : no connection

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what should i do just bought this game

vapid crypt Oct 23, 2020, 3:18 PM

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#gtfo-technical-support

round beacon Oct 23, 2020, 3:19 PM

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ty

fleet canopy Oct 23, 2020, 4:52 PM

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Have they already done the keynote?

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That’s on the 28th, right?

jade ermine Oct 23, 2020, 6:01 PM

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y

vapid crypt Oct 23, 2020, 6:03 PM

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That is on the 28th, these benchmarks are leaked from AIBs

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There's a reason AMD have been keeping their stuff away from AIBs cause they're a leaky ship phaWesker

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But since the reveal and launch is close, it can't be helped

fleet canopy Oct 23, 2020, 7:22 PM

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So doing better in Firestrike + Timespy while doing moderately about 2080 Ti in RT is cool

vapid crypt Oct 23, 2020, 7:23 PM

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Yeah so I think Firestrike is a DX11 benchmark, and the Nvidia drivers are kinda doing poo poo as you would say at DX11. I don't know if its just incomplete or they're dropping support largely phaSheva

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DX11 is really old though, and AAA games aren't gonna be using it anymore pretty much

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It's all DX12 and Vulkan now

rain folio Oct 23, 2020, 11:44 PM

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AMD definately a leaky ship ever since they start working with Radeon ATI cards.

twin comet Oct 24, 2020, 7:34 AM

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Razer Huntsman Clicky Optical Switch
Do you have some opinions on it, is it sturdy?

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I can get one for less than 100 EUR and not sure if it is worth it.

proper wren Oct 24, 2020, 8:22 AM

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Like the deathadder expect defects to occur, but I've heard good reviews on that keyboard

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Than again I'm a durgod simp https://www.amazon.ca/Durgod-Taurus-K310-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B07K193HZ4/ref=sr_1_12?crid=BBWF1HHT7GNK&dchild=1&keywords=durgod%2Bk320&qid=1603527780&sprefix=durgod%2B%2Caps%2C205&sr=8-12&th=1 Kizungry

twin comet Oct 24, 2020, 9:12 AM

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Thanks 🙂 however I have managed to get that razer for 65 Euro brand new 🙂

sick reef Oct 24, 2020, 9:13 AM

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I wonder how the optical switches will work over time. Haven't heard of them until recently.

twin comet Oct 24, 2020, 9:14 AM

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That taurus looks nice though but has full rim and I actually prefer the razer design, btw first razer product

sick reef Oct 24, 2020, 9:14 AM

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Have fun trying to not install Synapse.

twin comet Oct 24, 2020, 9:14 AM

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Will see read on reviews and they seem to last

sick reef Oct 24, 2020, 9:15 AM

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For how many years have the switches been available?

twin comet Oct 24, 2020, 9:16 AM

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2 years at least\

sick reef Oct 24, 2020, 9:23 AM

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Hopefully it doesn't have a critical failure associated with it down the line.

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Otherwise it seems good. I've been using a razer keyboard, though green switches, because it was cheap at one point, and I don't really like them.

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2020, 1:50 PM

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I don’t really like that at least one keyboard from every company has its own switch in it which sucks because I usually see em as a hit or miss on how they feel as I have no clue on them except cherry mx

vapid crypt Oct 24, 2020, 5:59 PM

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Alleged 6800XT performance in Games

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJcxKTX65F4

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6800XT seems to be a 1440p monster phaWesker

eternal cairn Oct 24, 2020, 6:59 PM

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LUL

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Nvidia actually had a card called 6800XT.

vapid crypt Oct 24, 2020, 7:00 PM

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Well, you're right but it's 6800 XT PirateSimon

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When XFX still made cards for Nvidia

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Seems Nvidia only used XT that one time in 2005 and never again; possibly because of ATI using it I dunno phaSheva

eternal cairn Oct 24, 2020, 7:24 PM

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Ancient GPUs take me back...

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To a time where I knew little about GPUs.

abstract kite Oct 24, 2020, 7:47 PM

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So have you guys ever heard of a game in 2015+ that only utilises 1 core of your processor?

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Is there a way to force said game to use more cores?

vapid crypt Oct 24, 2020, 7:48 PM

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I don't think so

abstract kite Oct 24, 2020, 7:48 PM

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Fuck

vapid crypt Oct 24, 2020, 7:48 PM

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You could give it access to less cores or something and that might help it along

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I remember doing that for Subnautica, only giving it 4 threads and I think that smoothed things out

abstract kite Oct 24, 2020, 7:49 PM

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I've been playing Rimworld and it only utilises one core and it is really chugging on frames and crashing at time because of it.

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I want it to use more cores xD

vapid crypt Oct 24, 2020, 7:50 PM

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If it's not built to, it just wont

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Maybe there's some kind of patch that exists I dunno phaSheva

abstract kite Oct 24, 2020, 7:51 PM

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Maybe

modest dragon Oct 24, 2020, 9:17 PM

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The new GTFO is not loading for me, this is all I get and can't click anywhere. I reinstalled the game, to no avail. Anyone else?

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fleet canopy Oct 24, 2020, 9:24 PM

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smh

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The real GPU is 6900XT

vapid crypt Oct 24, 2020, 9:33 PM

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What? phaWesker

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2020, 9:33 PM

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Who even wants to get a 6800XT PirateSimon

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Only Radeon 6900XT is what everyone's going to get

vapid crypt Oct 24, 2020, 9:37 PM

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Nice00XT

bright shard Oct 24, 2020, 9:59 PM

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@modest dragon #gtfo-technical-support

steel fable Oct 25, 2020, 1:30 PM

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@jagged estuary mounts? whats that???

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jundLaugh

jagged estuary Oct 25, 2020, 1:31 PM

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LUL

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dude you dragged the monitors towards you

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didn't you?

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also that hand rest in the keyboard taking up space

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OOF

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cant move with that

steel fable Oct 25, 2020, 1:33 PM

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its not dragged, and i need my arm rest just because i give myself complimentary rsi in one of the games i play

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but yeah, my setup is cursed

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even more cursed with an alienware pc

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honest sparrow Oct 25, 2020, 2:15 PM

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i have that exact pc lmfao

vapid crypt Oct 25, 2020, 2:24 PM

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That's the first Alienware Chassis I've seen that actually looks like it has decent airflow phaWesker

honest sparrow Oct 25, 2020, 2:26 PM

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it works great i love it

fleet canopy Oct 25, 2020, 2:38 PM

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Impossible

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Alienware is shit at cooling

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How can this exist???

wintry tree Oct 25, 2020, 2:50 PM

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People that buy Alienware pcs GWclegendsPepeReally

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Knew someone that got their kid an alienware laptop + new kb + mouse + yeti mic

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Never seen someone spend so much money on a setup just for their kid to play roblox all day

honest sparrow Oct 25, 2020, 2:50 PM

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lol @ my parents

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i wanted to build a pc with my dad but he was just like "lets just buy a prebuilt one" and did it

wintry tree Oct 25, 2020, 2:51 PM

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Headset the kid was using was still like 10$ and they got a really overpriced kb and there's no way in hell he needed a yeti mic lmao

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But still

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2k+ just so the kid can play roblox at high fps

fleet canopy Oct 25, 2020, 3:25 PM

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lol

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Kid must've had a shitload of freedom

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No way to allow yourself to be like that to kids smh

dusk igloo Oct 25, 2020, 3:26 PM

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do you guys know the feeling when your local retailer for Nvidia cards only was able to fulfil 10% orders because they did not receive the amount they ordered... the fact that even if you ordered a card there would be a low chance that you got one this year...

umbral arch Oct 25, 2020, 3:29 PM

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a pc is a pc

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if it plays the game I want at a reasonable speed then it's good for me

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I was playing C&C Generals at 20fps for years before I got a proper PC

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and I always had fun

dusk igloo Oct 25, 2020, 3:32 PM

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well need a new card, cause i got a crg9 and my 980 ti aint cutting it

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but strategy games still works wonders on that

umbral arch Oct 25, 2020, 3:33 PM

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rx-580 black edition 4GB

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you see, it's faster than the normal edition because it's black

dusk igloo Oct 25, 2020, 3:34 PM

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AMD just because

wintry tree Oct 25, 2020, 3:48 PM

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I'm just curious

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What does nvidia container do? GWmythicalThonkCool

vapid crypt Oct 25, 2020, 3:51 PM

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Nvidia Container?

dusk igloo Oct 25, 2020, 4:20 PM

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just a process to contain nvidia processes like shadowplay and what else is installed with the driver pack

bright shard Oct 25, 2020, 4:32 PM

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tfw built my own pc, and ive had it for since like highschool. never expected it to last so long.

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any prebuit i had ever bought only lasted 4 or so years before crapping out.

pine lion Oct 25, 2020, 5:11 PM

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My first ever gaming pc was an R2, Aurora I loved it, did what I needed it too, learned about pc's and kept the R2 and upgraded it and passed it down to my wife's sister 🙂

fleet canopy Oct 26, 2020, 2:14 AM

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Linus from Linus Sex Tips has applied to Amazon

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for job

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1pmBUGc6Q0

proper wren Oct 26, 2020, 2:17 AM

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learned that all that chinese cpus Linus gets is from one of my regular customers doggopeek

fleet canopy Oct 26, 2020, 2:20 AM

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Neat

lilac geyser Oct 26, 2020, 4:11 AM

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he didnt answer how he eventually got ltt, right?

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did ncix just give it to him?

vapid crypt Oct 26, 2020, 4:51 AM

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He has talked about that, I recall. I think they made some kind of deal as he was preparing to leave

clear quartz Oct 26, 2020, 6:09 AM

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my first gaming rig was an a laptop dell 14 7447 pandora

jade surge Oct 26, 2020, 11:57 AM

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@lilac geyser. Linus explained how he got LTT in a later video. https://youtu.be/RUz10TAmsXA

wintry tree Oct 26, 2020, 3:31 PM

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@lilac geyser he also said it in a wan show iirc

muted plaza Oct 26, 2020, 4:15 PM

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Yeah

rancid kindle Oct 26, 2020, 4:44 PM

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Ok question, I've heard some negative feedback on this so I thought I'd ask:

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My pc is in this box against the wall

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Should I move it to somewhere more open?

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Or is this fine

vapid crypt Oct 26, 2020, 4:45 PM

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Like it's right against the wall pretty much?

rancid kindle Oct 26, 2020, 4:45 PM

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Yep

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Small gap maybe an inch orr

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Off*

vapid crypt Oct 26, 2020, 4:46 PM

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So the lower you have it, I want to say the more susceptible to dust collection. At least I think that's the case

rancid kindle Oct 26, 2020, 4:47 PM

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I have this dresser next to my setup, maybe put it on top?

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vapid crypt Oct 26, 2020, 4:47 PM

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Otherwise if the temps are fine, and you dust it fairly often; um yeah it's not a big deal

rancid kindle Oct 26, 2020, 4:48 PM

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Yeah one of the guys I know told me it's basically a heater down there and I should move it to "help out the air flow"

vapid crypt Oct 26, 2020, 4:48 PM

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Like for me I would rather have it on the desk since I have direct access without having to get down or pull it out

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Does it have venting on the top?

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Cause maybe that's true, but I mean it's probably exhausting most of the heat out the back

rancid kindle Oct 26, 2020, 4:50 PM

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Yeah mostly out the back

wintry tree Oct 26, 2020, 5:24 PM

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If your case has a good or even decent dust filter then you can keep it on the floor and it'll be fine

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As long as it gets good airflow then it's fine and even if it collects dust, you only really need to clean it every 3-4 months 🤷

pine lion Oct 26, 2020, 6:28 PM

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No thank’s, on the desk. For me, even with the proper stuff I don’t like dust period I usually clean once every two weeks.

vapid crypt Oct 26, 2020, 7:08 PM

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I clean every 2 months

fleet canopy Oct 26, 2020, 7:16 PM

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Linus explained how he created LTT like 3 years ago or something around the time NCIX literally shut down and had a huge ass auction as he tried to get the NCIX play button

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And to get the play button, he had to get every other medal NCIX had, as well as two plants, couple furniture, etc.

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Eventually when someone got it and he asked, he later just decided to let the guy have it because well, he's already has his own channel's play button + some others

fleet canopy Oct 26, 2020, 7:50 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGJSFTaFJbQ YouTube recommended me this

fleet canopy Oct 26, 2020, 11:10 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW0D5FZMj80 3070 Ti leak

vapid crypt Oct 26, 2020, 11:26 PM

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58 SMs/RT cores that's a bigger cutdown than I expected

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It'll be faster than the 3070 by a good bit, good chance that it may even slightly beat the 6800

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For sure it'll do ray tracing better

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Depends on the price though, no idea when this card is coming either

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Good chance it'll be 599 probably

jade surge Oct 27, 2020, 12:13 AM

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man, Nvidia is running scared

vapid crypt Oct 27, 2020, 12:16 AM

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I wouldn't say that, but I would say fumbling to compete now that AMD is showing some promising performance

jade surge Oct 27, 2020, 12:16 AM

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it is definitely scared. and who is to say that AMD isd any good

vapid crypt Oct 27, 2020, 12:16 AM

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Well there's no doubt that they're concerned with how good RDNA truly is

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We only got a taste of it last year but that was partially GCN still

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And it was merely a mid-range card

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Now AMD is pulling out the big stuff

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There's leaked info that the 6800XT is about on Par with the 3080 at 4k and pretty much beating it at 1440p

jade surge Oct 27, 2020, 1:18 AM

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I am curious how they match up in ray tracing and what they cooked up to compete with DLSS 2.0

vapid crypt Oct 27, 2020, 1:22 AM

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From the leaked 3dmark numbers, they're doing a little bit better than the 2080Ti at Raytracing

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They need more refinement, but that's pretty decent for a start

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Might be better on release though

jade surge Oct 27, 2020, 2:12 AM

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now it all falls to what the price is and availability

vapid crypt Oct 27, 2020, 2:37 AM

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Still unsure about higher availability for Nvidia next month, it might be accurate to what I've heard; AMD should have plenty though

abstract kite Oct 27, 2020, 2:43 AM

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doubt

jade surge Oct 27, 2020, 2:43 AM

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well Nvidia nhas shown they cant be trusted regarding availability, but AMD may do better. they had more time produce units

abstract kite Oct 27, 2020, 2:44 AM

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Do you think that AMD will be any different?

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I highly doubt it...

vapid crypt Oct 27, 2020, 2:48 AM

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I'll say this, they will have more availability. But they may not keep with demand

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Especially if people are intending to get a Navi card to make up for not being able to get a 3080 or whatever

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Doesn't matter to me, I'm most likely just waiting for a 6700 card anyway phaWesker

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Maybe I'll get a 5700XT on sale next month along with a new monitor phaSheva

jade surge Oct 27, 2020, 2:52 AM

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I truly believe that AMD will have more cards available at launch than Nvidia did, but they still may not have enough for everyone since they haver to have enough for the people that want the AMD cards, those that wanted Nvidia but never got one and the scalpers. AMD has put in place better measures than Nvidia to fight the scalpers but who knows if it's enough

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plus AMD may not have to ofgfer lower prices since the Nvidia launch was so terrible

fleet canopy Oct 27, 2020, 3:15 AM

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What are their methods for fighting against scalpers though

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Like have they said anything of it?

eternal cairn Oct 27, 2020, 3:27 AM

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Can't they just check if the shipping addresses are the same and just cancel orders if the addresses are similar?

lilac geyser Oct 27, 2020, 3:58 AM

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i'd imagine shipping addresses are among hardest piece of information to get unique multiples of

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payment methods probably not too hard

eternal cairn Oct 27, 2020, 4:53 AM

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Yeah, but people can easily make fake credit cards.

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Or, not fake, but rather alternate credit cards.

eternal cairn Oct 27, 2020, 5:09 AM

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You can't really fake a shipping address without having to drive out to several different locations just to get the different orders.

vapid crypt Oct 27, 2020, 5:15 AM

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This is what they're having partners, presumably their AIB and Retail partners do

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abstract kite Oct 27, 2020, 6:27 AM

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Wait were the new AMD GPU's announced?

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I know tomorrow

eternal cairn Oct 27, 2020, 7:28 AM

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It would be wise for Nvidia to do the same.

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Also, AMD is just informing these retailers to use these extra security measures, not enforcing it.

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I'm sure AMD's website might have anti-scalper protection, but I doubt any of the retailers will since they don't care if their stock sells out.

lilac geyser Oct 27, 2020, 7:55 AM

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what if amd didnt have to split up resources developing TWO console products at the same time as the pc product

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they could have beat nvidia to market? could have way more stock available?

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or do these lucrative deals just propel them further?

jade surge Oct 27, 2020, 11:38 AM

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Well, the console profits help to pay for R&D as well as production costs for their other projects.

wintry tree Oct 27, 2020, 2:44 PM

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Also, any tech enthusiast would know 6000series cards would drop soon from AMD and delaying their launch till after nvidias instead of around the same time just makes it so they get more attention instead of sharing it between nvidia

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if their 6series cards are anywhere near as good as the 30series from nvidia then they'll be in a good place

jade ermine Oct 27, 2020, 3:00 PM

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So was 3070 slower like 2080Ti

dusk igloo Oct 27, 2020, 3:01 PM

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around/above 2080TI less vram so it lacks in productivity that requires more vram therefore the 2080 ti is faster in some tests

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not that the 2080 is slow by any standard

wintry tree Oct 27, 2020, 3:02 PM

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Eh

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2080 is slow by 3000 series

dusk igloo Oct 27, 2020, 3:02 PM

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no it aint

wintry tree Oct 27, 2020, 3:02 PM

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Keep in mind 2080 is like 1k while the 3070 retails for around 400-500 I think

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Compare 2080 to 3080 and it looks like it's 2gen old hardware

dusk igloo Oct 27, 2020, 3:03 PM

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yes but i dont care about price in this

jade ermine Oct 27, 2020, 3:03 PM

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Im comparing it to 2080Ti because they said its faster

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So it basically matches it for cheap

wintry tree Oct 27, 2020, 3:04 PM

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Pure processing power now goes to 3090 and 3080 outclasses the hell out of 2080 ti with the 3070 keeping pace with the 2080ti

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Yeah

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It's half the price of the 2080ti at most

jade ermine Oct 27, 2020, 3:04 PM

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too bad it will not be available for next 3 months

wintry tree Oct 27, 2020, 3:04 PM

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true

jade ermine Oct 27, 2020, 3:04 PM

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just like 3080

wintry tree Oct 27, 2020, 3:05 PM

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There is literally no reason to go with 20series unless you literally cannot get a 30series and you can't wait a few months

dusk igloo Oct 27, 2020, 3:05 PM

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yes or if you can score a cheap used one

jade ermine Oct 27, 2020, 3:05 PM

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waiting a few months after you have waited a few months

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hahaha

wintry tree Oct 27, 2020, 3:05 PM

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Cheap used one isn't even that worth it tbh

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Think you're really gonna find a cheap 2080ti?

jade ermine Oct 27, 2020, 3:06 PM

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2080Ti's go for around 500-600 euros

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500 being a damn good deal

dusk igloo Oct 27, 2020, 3:06 PM

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i've seen cheaper in my county, well... before the shortage was apparent

jade ermine Oct 27, 2020, 3:06 PM

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500-700 would be more realistic

wintry tree Oct 27, 2020, 3:07 PM

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I'm seeing 2080ti's on ebay from anywhere from 650$ to 1,000$usd

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which is garbo compared to 3070

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Again, the only reason you should go with 20 series is if you literally can't wait a couple months for better availability and need that much processing power

dusk igloo Oct 27, 2020, 3:08 PM

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all i want is a gpu with displayport 1.4..... why cruel world

wintry tree Oct 27, 2020, 3:08 PM

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Why DP1.4? Instead of HDMI 2.1?

jade ermine Oct 27, 2020, 3:08 PM

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As long as 3xxx series is sold out i can see people paying bit extra

dusk igloo Oct 27, 2020, 3:08 PM

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i got the old samsung G9 now the CRG9

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it dont got hdmi 2.1

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cause the standard was not set in stones

wintry tree Oct 27, 2020, 3:09 PM

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rip

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also ryzen 5000 series launch made me 🥜

dusk igloo Oct 27, 2020, 3:10 PM

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and my 980 ti while it can game at 4k it cannot display it through one cable

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well for this monitor spesificly

wintry tree Oct 27, 2020, 3:10 PM

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980ti at 4k lmao

dusk igloo Oct 27, 2020, 3:10 PM

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it does witcher

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3

wintry tree Oct 27, 2020, 3:10 PM

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4k with low texture settings kek

dusk igloo Oct 27, 2020, 3:11 PM

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no high with some things at medium

wintry tree Oct 27, 2020, 3:11 PM

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Eh

dusk igloo Oct 27, 2020, 3:11 PM

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but new titles are too much

wintry tree Oct 27, 2020, 3:11 PM

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Imo 1440p or even 1080p with all max looks better than 4k with things at medium

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Then again

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I always put everything on the lowest setting anyways 🤷

dusk igloo Oct 27, 2020, 3:12 PM

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well i was just saying it could

wintry tree Oct 27, 2020, 3:12 PM

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a 1050 can too kappa

dusk igloo Oct 27, 2020, 3:12 PM

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i do run most things at 1080 ultrawide

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i like to get frames in excess of 60

wintry tree Oct 27, 2020, 3:13 PM

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Bruh anything below around 100fps and I can feel stutters even on a 60hz display

dusk igloo Oct 27, 2020, 3:14 PM

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i didn't want to by into the 20 series thats why i accept fames below that

wintry tree Oct 27, 2020, 3:14 PM

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I mean

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I don't rly care about how games look as they don't look unplayable so I always drop stuff to the lowest and just keep fps uncapped cus all I want is big number kek

dusk igloo Oct 27, 2020, 3:15 PM

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gotta get the >300 FPS

wintry tree Oct 27, 2020, 3:15 PM

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Nah I can't get that kek

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But above 100-120fps I'm good with

jade surge Oct 27, 2020, 3:16 PM

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anything over 60 and its smooth sailing

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100 is nice but not needed

wintry tree Oct 27, 2020, 3:17 PM

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You'd think that's actually true, but just because you can get a locked 60fps doesn't mean it's smooth

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Gotta think about your lows and your frame times for your monitor

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Which is why I prefer to have 100+fps since then the chances of having a frame ready for my monitor are much higher + it helps with input lag a little

dusk igloo Oct 27, 2020, 3:18 PM

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frame drops feels like lag not matter how much fps you got

wintry tree Oct 27, 2020, 3:19 PM

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not rly

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You get 200fps+ then even if you drop a frame you got another right there in under about 3ms for your display

dusk igloo Oct 27, 2020, 3:20 PM

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it is preserved by the human eye as stutters it is just less apparent at higher fps

wintry tree Oct 27, 2020, 3:20 PM

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Used to get like 80-90 fps in overwatch and I could notice frame drops and stuff, but now I get over 200fps and it's buttery smooth compared to how it used to be

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It's not stutters though because even if a frame takes longer to display on your monitor, you still have a high enough fps to where you always have a frame ready for your monitor as soon is it needs a new one

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So it will be smoother no matter what

pine lion Oct 27, 2020, 3:35 PM

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3070 benches on gamer nexus

limpid nimbus Oct 27, 2020, 6:29 PM

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odd question, is 64 GB of ram to much for an 8 core prosser?

lilac geyser Oct 27, 2020, 6:29 PM

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depends on the processor

void perch Oct 27, 2020, 6:29 PM

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depends on what you're doing.

limpid nimbus Oct 27, 2020, 6:30 PM

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AMD Ryzen 7 3800X 3.9 GHz 8-Core Processor and high end gamming

lilac geyser Oct 27, 2020, 6:30 PM

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it will work, probably more than needed

limpid nimbus Oct 27, 2020, 6:30 PM

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yeah that figures... damit...

lilac geyser Oct 27, 2020, 6:31 PM

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you could open some really big databases and use all 8 cores to crunch though it

limpid nimbus Oct 27, 2020, 6:32 PM

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got it

lilac geyser Oct 27, 2020, 6:32 PM

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or play 2 games at once

limpid nimbus Oct 27, 2020, 6:32 PM

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Jesus yeah i guess

void perch Oct 27, 2020, 6:35 PM

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I have 48 GB of RAM, haven't restarted in 107 days, and OBS+GTFO+dev tools + Chrome barely touches it

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pine lion Oct 27, 2020, 6:55 PM

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@void perch dam I know pc's are built for staying on as long the proper cooling is about and other variables, but why... 😛

void perch Oct 27, 2020, 7:04 PM

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because I'm usually too busy with too much running to bother restarting and setting everything up again

fleet canopy Oct 27, 2020, 7:15 PM

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Because restarting is for scrubs

void perch Oct 27, 2020, 7:15 PM

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same with doing windows updates

pine lion Oct 27, 2020, 7:18 PM

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Fair enough, I turn mine off at night because I wouldn't be able to sleep otherwise, my 2 pc's are in my bedroom. My house is being built and my roommate is in our other bedroom for now.

void perch Oct 27, 2020, 7:19 PM

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I have a desktop, macbook, work laptop, 2x servers (20 cores each, 384 GB ram each) that run constantly so i've gotten used to it

pine lion Oct 27, 2020, 7:58 PM

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What’s the servers for?

void perch Oct 27, 2020, 8:01 PM

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About 30 reddit/discord bots, databases, websites, development tools, monitoring software, plus everything mirrored in case of failure.

pine lion Oct 27, 2020, 8:31 PM

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That's pretty impressive! I just have 3 built gaming rig's, ipad's etc etc

vapid crypt Oct 27, 2020, 8:42 PM

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3080Ti incoming phaWesker https://twitter.com/kopite7kimi/status/1320998162744578048

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Well "incoming" who knows when we'll actually hear about it. But it is a cutdown 3090 from the looks of it

jade surge Oct 27, 2020, 9:32 PM

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@void perch what are you running in your home server? I am looking in to building a high capacity home server.

void perch Oct 27, 2020, 9:32 PM

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hardware wise?

jade surge Oct 27, 2020, 9:32 PM

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yeah

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you using ssd or mechanical drives

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looking for ideas

void perch Oct 27, 2020, 9:34 PM

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Server 2:
R730XD Server
Processors (2) : E5-2690 V3 - 2.60GHz 12 Core
RAM Configuration : 192GB - 12x16GB (I've since bumped this up)
RAID Controller : PERC H730P RAID Controller
Hard Drive Configuration : 8x 1TB NEW SSD Hard Drive

jade surge Oct 27, 2020, 9:35 PM

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thats some serious hardware

void perch Oct 27, 2020, 9:35 PM

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Server 1:
R730XD
2x Intel Xeon E5-2660 V3 - 2.60GHz 10 Core
192GB - 12x16GB PC4-1700R DDR4 Registered
PERC H730 RAID Controller
2x 750W R730 PSU
12x Dell R-Series 3.5" SAS 3TB 7.2K Drive

grave marten Oct 27, 2020, 9:36 PM

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why does this happen

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im in borderless windowed

jade surge Oct 27, 2020, 9:40 PM

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What resolution do you have it set to

grave marten Oct 27, 2020, 10:18 PM

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1440p

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@jade surge i didnt see you responded

raw copper Oct 27, 2020, 10:20 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/743574687564431390/770770357387919360/Screenshot_20200817-155817_Facebook.jpg

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can i play cyberpunk 77?

grave marten Oct 27, 2020, 10:21 PM

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probably but at very low settings

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yeah it will be able to run it

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but maybe not that well

vapid crypt Oct 27, 2020, 10:27 PM

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17 hours away 👀 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHpgu-cTjyM

proper wren Oct 27, 2020, 10:40 PM

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razer gaming chair

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that cannot run cyberpunk 2077

wintry tree Oct 27, 2020, 10:41 PM

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Razer gaming chair

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That isn't rgb backlit and water cooled smh

proper wren Oct 27, 2020, 10:42 PM

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maybe like 5-10 fps but the gt 1030 beats the 940 mx so it says a lot what will happen lol

fleet canopy Oct 27, 2020, 10:55 PM

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Another one of those moments that I miss the keynote 😔

merry bay Oct 27, 2020, 10:59 PM

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On the bright side, you'll be able to watch it 2x+ speed for the intro talking portions

fleet canopy Oct 27, 2020, 11:00 PM

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Or just watch GN review it and give the good details

proper wren Oct 28, 2020, 12:33 AM

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Apple and Microsoft buying Podcast creators hmmm

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A slow trend

steel fable Oct 28, 2020, 12:44 AM

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hey yall, mind rating my build? mainly worrying about if it might be future proof with a few upgrades (mainly gpu and power supply) tysm!

CPU; Intel i7 8700k
GPU; Nvidia 1060 6gb
Memory; 32 GB DDR4 (OC to 3200)
Storage; M.2 NVME 1tb
Power supply; 460 watts (i think lol)
PC stays relatively cool, with no overheating problems to mention.

old patrol Oct 28, 2020, 12:45 AM

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7/10

void perch Oct 28, 2020, 12:46 AM

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graphics card is on the lower end, that psu is very low. ram is really good, cpu is pretty good, storage is really good

steel fable Oct 28, 2020, 12:47 AM

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so maybe i should consider upgrading my psu and graphics card at the same time?

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seeing how for me to upgrade my gpu, a new psu is basically needed

void perch Oct 28, 2020, 12:47 AM

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if you upgrade the gfx you 100% need to upgrade the psu

steel fable Oct 28, 2020, 12:48 AM

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gotcha, any recommended cards for my i7 8700? i'm thinking of buying a 1080 ti when the prices go down from the 3000's

wintry tree Oct 28, 2020, 12:53 AM

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Go with a 600wat psu if you could

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And for gpu, either go 1070/1080 unless you can score a cheap 2070/super

steel fable Oct 28, 2020, 12:54 AM

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gotcha, and found out that the 2070 super is a very good gpu paired with the cpu i got

old patrol Oct 28, 2020, 12:55 AM

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I hope you get lucky with getting one

steel fable Oct 28, 2020, 12:55 AM

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and yeah, i understand. thanks so much you guys, ill consider upgrading the computer, love the thing with all my heart

wintry tree Oct 28, 2020, 12:55 AM

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It's only good if you can find it for around 300-400$

old patrol Oct 28, 2020, 12:56 AM

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love the thing with all my heart
Don't we all

steel fable Oct 28, 2020, 12:56 AM

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even if its a prebuilt, i spoil the thing by putting my fan right next to it

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anyways, thanks again you guys, ill look into it with all of that in thought

old patrol Oct 28, 2020, 12:58 AM

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@void perch what are your pc specs?

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 12:58 AM

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460w, what are System integrators doing ?

void perch Oct 28, 2020, 12:59 AM

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i5-8600k
regular gtx 1080 (soon™️ to be 3090)
48 GB ram
lots of NVMe's

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planning a threadripper still

old patrol Oct 28, 2020, 1:00 AM

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tbh I thought you had some crazy shit

wintry tree Oct 28, 2020, 1:00 AM

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I'd wait till 5000series ryzen drops since you're going with 3090

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Gonna be the only thing on the market that can keep up with it really in terms of gaming and productivity (unless it's purely productivity based in which case threadripper will do you better)

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@vapid crypt They're doing barely enough to keep the pc running

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 1:01 AM

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Well the 8600K really wouldn't hold back a 3090, as odd as a pair up that is. It is thread limited though, so going forward a upgrade was needed pretty much last year probably phaWesker

wintry tree Oct 28, 2020, 1:01 AM

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A 10900k doesn't even let a 3090 stretch it's legs fully GWmythicalThonkCool

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 1:02 AM

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Based on what?

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Like what is it doing?

wintry tree Oct 28, 2020, 1:02 AM

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Based on benchmarks? Wdym?

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 1:02 AM

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The CPU won't have much effect on say 4k gaming

void perch Oct 28, 2020, 1:03 AM

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ABC - the main limiting factor i have right now is my GPU. so can't wait to upgrade that.

wintry tree Oct 28, 2020, 1:04 AM

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Js threadripper isn't the best if you're going for a mix of gaming and productivity unless your workflow needs the thread count

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@vapid crypt And 3090 for 4k gaming is kinda a waste since 3080 can do 4k gaming just fine + it won't get bottlenecked as much

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 1:04 AM

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Well I agree I think the 3090 is a waste, full stop

wintry tree Oct 28, 2020, 1:05 AM

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Nah, I don't think it's a waste

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But I do know that if you got a 3090 in your system, the limiting factor is most likely gonna be your cpu

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That and your PSU since you need a beefy boi for a 3090

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 1:06 AM

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450W from the GPU alone when overclocked 👀

steel fable Oct 28, 2020, 1:06 AM

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thats literally my entire psu

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jundCry

wintry tree Oct 28, 2020, 1:06 AM

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It isn't actually the sustained power draw

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 1:07 AM

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I know that's peak

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But you know hyperbole

wintry tree Oct 28, 2020, 1:07 AM

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Not peak either

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It's sudden spikes

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LTT did a video where they had a 10900k (iirc) and 3090 in a system with a 1000w PSU and in theory, it was a good enough PSU but the sudden spikes of power draw tripped the PSUs overcurrent protection

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So you really need closer to a 1200w psu if you go full out

jade ermine Oct 28, 2020, 1:16 AM

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3080 aorus card really is a chonk. takes like 4 slots ?

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wintry tree Oct 28, 2020, 1:16 AM

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triple slot

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 1:16 AM

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Woah hahaha

wintry tree Oct 28, 2020, 1:16 AM

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But yeh, looks thicc

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 1:16 AM

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They just made it for the 3090 and passed it down

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Now everyone gets a BFGPU phaWesker

jade ermine Oct 28, 2020, 1:17 AM

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Gotta be more than triple

steel fable Oct 28, 2020, 1:18 AM

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so no quad 3080 setups?

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;(

jade ermine Oct 28, 2020, 1:18 AM

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ReversedConfusedUlf

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 1:18 AM

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Yeah its nearly a quad slot possibly

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Maybe 3.5

abstract kite Oct 28, 2020, 1:23 AM

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Were the new AMD cards announced?

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 1:26 AM

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Tomorrow

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14 hours in fact

proper wren Oct 28, 2020, 5:33 AM

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so 3060 and 3060 tis are already in preorder in Taobao

jade ermine Oct 28, 2020, 7:28 AM

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8 hours for radeon show

jade surge Oct 28, 2020, 11:42 AM

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@wintry tree the 3080 is adequate for 4k right now but as we go on the VRAM requirements for games and functions will only increase. So yes as to your comment the 3080 will do 4k just fine but for how long will 10GD of Vram be enough. Eventually we games will require more

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no the 3090 is definitely a HUGE waste because of the pricing of the card. The price to performance is not good. Granted the gaming performance of the 3090 is roughly 10% better than the 3080 at best in certain games. But, with the high count of VRAM it would be great for content creators and it would pair perfectly with a Threadripper. As far as a 10900k not being enough for the 3090 that is complete rubbish. I mean 1440p and 4k are more GPU reliant than 1080p.

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 12:21 PM

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The price performance is still better than the 2080Ti, though that's not saying much considering how awful the price performance was for that card.

wintry tree Oct 28, 2020, 3:35 PM

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@jade surge Almost every gaming benchmark I've seen has either had the system CPU bound or the game is optimized poorly at 4k (and even 8k) gaming

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And your point about how long the 3080 will go with it's 10GB of ram is kinda pointless since the 3090 has 24gbs iirc so if you were really worried about it then you could just go with 3090

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price to performance compared to titan cards or last gen cards is a hell of a lot better even with the 3090

jade surge Oct 28, 2020, 3:44 PM

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sorry but the 3090 is definitely not worth it, especially for a gaming card.

wintry tree Oct 28, 2020, 3:46 PM

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Never said it was, 3080 or even the 3070 is much better price to performance and can handel 4k/1440p/1080p gaming well

verbal drum Oct 28, 2020, 3:54 PM

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I need help, this is really annoying. I keep crashing when my settings are made to 1440p. I have the recomanded i7-4790k, and a 1080ti. What should my advanced video be and what can I do? A couple minutes in I crash in a game, when in 1080p on my 1440p monitor it has no issues, this has been a problem for me ever since I started playing this week

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 4:01 PM

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It's starting 👀 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHpgu-cTjyM

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 4:24 PM

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Holy shit they binned the 6900XT like crazy

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65% higher perf per watt over RDNA 2

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They did it, it's $999

dusk igloo Oct 28, 2020, 4:25 PM

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just gotta say it NICE00XT

abstract kite Oct 28, 2020, 4:27 PM

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Not bad

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 4:27 PM

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50% less money for comparable performance, and it's drawing probably like 80w less

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Tbf there's more to it regarding software

wintry tree Oct 28, 2020, 4:28 PM

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500$ less but you need 5000series cpu and 500series chipset so eh

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 4:28 PM

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You don't need it, but sure I guess to maximize performance with that memory thing they showed

wintry tree Oct 28, 2020, 4:28 PM

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Gotta go amd cpu if you want the performance they showed for the 6900xt

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Yes you do, they showed it with the memory thing enabled

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smart access memory enabled

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jade surge Oct 28, 2020, 4:30 PM

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what's your point smile

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 4:31 PM

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Well that it's only getting that performance exactly with the smart access memory

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Which is up to 13% more performance, but on average it's like probably 5%?

dusk igloo Oct 28, 2020, 4:31 PM

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we don't know how it scales at tougher workloads doe

wintry tree Oct 28, 2020, 4:31 PM

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My only point was that you'd need to go full AMD to get the most performance out of the card

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 4:32 PM

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Well yeah we won't know until 2 weeks I guess

wintry tree Oct 28, 2020, 4:32 PM

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Then again tho, with how good 5000series is, going full AMD looks pretty good now

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 4:32 PM

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Well with the 6800XT, should get an idea how that smart memory works then

jade surge Oct 28, 2020, 4:32 PM

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with how the Processors are going must people will more than likely upgrade to AMD

wintry tree Oct 28, 2020, 4:33 PM

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Still

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Matching 3090 for 500$ less is pretty nice

jade surge Oct 28, 2020, 4:34 PM

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I mean honestly we are shown the numbers AMD got. I am saving judgement for when the 3rd party reviews come out

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but thats to say that the 6900 numbers are as good as they are saying

dusk igloo Oct 28, 2020, 4:35 PM

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all that is left now is to see where stuff like DLSS takes landscape to

wintry tree Oct 28, 2020, 4:36 PM

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What?

dusk igloo Oct 28, 2020, 4:36 PM

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if DLSS becomes real big...

jade surge Oct 28, 2020, 4:36 PM

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although deep down i am still trying to decide whether to build a Zen 3 rig or wait for Zen 4 since Zen 3 is the last CPU to be made for Socket AM4

wintry tree Oct 28, 2020, 4:36 PM

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Eh

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 4:37 PM

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Right now it's tied on a per game basis

wintry tree Oct 28, 2020, 4:37 PM

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Top end zen 3 rig will be fine for the next 5 years probably so eh

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 4:37 PM

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Eventually there will be a global version of DLSS

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But when? Probably not anytime soon

jade surge Oct 28, 2020, 4:37 PM

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I mean top end Zen 3 rig will be good for more than 5 years

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 4:38 PM

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I would say Zen 2 is fine for that long

jade surge Oct 28, 2020, 4:38 PM

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Zen 4 is supposed to be out 2021

wintry tree Oct 28, 2020, 4:39 PM

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I'd still just build a zen 3 rig once stuff becomes available

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Zen 3 + RDNA2 (if the numbers in the real world are as good as AMD says) or 3080/90

jade surge Oct 28, 2020, 4:40 PM

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I guess as long as I get an X570 board to utilize PCI-E 4.0

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 4:40 PM

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I'd love that 6800, but I feel the price should have been closer to the 3070 to really twist the screws on it

wintry tree Oct 28, 2020, 4:40 PM

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You wait till zen 4 then you're like "oh but should I wait for the next cpu to drop?"

jade surge Oct 28, 2020, 4:41 PM

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well I mean even if the 6800xt is real world slightly less than the 3080 I will get since the price is less. As long as they have their driver issues figured out

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 4:41 PM

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They'll drop the price when the 3070Ti is announced, which right now it's just rumored cause of a further cut down GA102

jade surge Oct 28, 2020, 4:42 PM

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hell for 1500 you can get the 6900XT and the 5900X. I would rather go with the option that gets me a CPU and GPU for 1500

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 4:43 PM

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Yeah that's a much more balanced approach

wintry tree Oct 28, 2020, 4:43 PM

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Imo if you want to future proof then 6900xt + 5950x and x570 board 🤷

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Gonna be pretty much the highest end setup you can get if AMDs numbers are to be believed

dusk igloo Oct 28, 2020, 4:44 PM

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but why go 16 core if you don't have a workload for it

wintry tree Oct 28, 2020, 4:45 PM

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Why go 6900xt when you don't need the raw compute power?

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 4:45 PM

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Thread utilization is going to go up on average across the board in future AAA games

wintry tree Oct 28, 2020, 4:45 PM

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Also hopefully game devs can optimize for multithreading

dusk igloo Oct 28, 2020, 4:46 PM

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if i only ran one vm on my server, let say a minecraft server i would be using 9 percent cpu....

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 4:46 PM

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Consoles using 8 core 16 thread CPUs, I mean that tells us they could utilize up to 16 threads right?

dusk igloo Oct 28, 2020, 4:46 PM

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if i gamed with a GAMING GPU i would be using closer to 100%

wintry tree Oct 28, 2020, 4:46 PM

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What?

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 4:46 PM

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So logically 16 proper cores would give the best performance

wintry tree Oct 28, 2020, 4:47 PM

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A) Game devs are most likely gonna optimize for multithreaded CPUs and B) If you stream or do anything in the background that's at all cpu intensive, extra cores will help

dusk igloo Oct 28, 2020, 4:48 PM

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A) in that case you do have a workload

wintry tree Oct 28, 2020, 4:48 PM

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What?

dusk igloo Oct 28, 2020, 4:48 PM

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i mean B)

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 4:48 PM

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Yeah so his point was why get 16 cores if you don't have a workload to utilize it

wintry tree Oct 28, 2020, 4:49 PM

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ReversedConfusedUlf

dusk igloo Oct 28, 2020, 4:49 PM

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how well did intel extreme cpu work out for people who got them for gaming when it was mostly single threaded back then

wintry tree Oct 28, 2020, 4:50 PM

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Where did that come from GWmythicalThonkCool

jade surge Oct 28, 2020, 4:50 PM

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I am gonna need the 16 cores so when I start teaching my daughters VMware the extra cores and high amount of ram will help

dusk igloo Oct 28, 2020, 4:50 PM

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yes lets pay money for 2% performance increases, but the cpu is designed for a workload that is multi threaded

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 4:51 PM

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If you're just gonna be gaming for the most part, going beyond 8c/16t is likely unnecessary for years to come

wintry tree Oct 28, 2020, 4:51 PM

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2% right now maybe

dusk igloo Oct 28, 2020, 4:51 PM

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and games at that time was single threaded

wintry tree Oct 28, 2020, 4:51 PM

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But do you really think games will continue to be mainly singlethreaded? cus that's rly closeminded

jade ermine Oct 28, 2020, 4:51 PM

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https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1321489315428519936

wintry tree Oct 28, 2020, 4:52 PM

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While yeah, you don't need 16cores to game, having extra cores means if you decide you want to get into CAD or 3d modeling or something you don't gotta upgrade for it (or if you wanted to do anything else cpu intensive)

dusk igloo Oct 28, 2020, 4:53 PM

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what i am saying is, back in the day some people got 8 cores when it gave them best case 5% performance, because the clock was slightly higher, but then payed a premium for 4 extra cores their workload did not use at all.

wintry tree Oct 28, 2020, 4:53 PM

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GWmythicalThonkCool

dusk igloo Oct 28, 2020, 4:53 PM

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i am not saying that 16 cores aint good for games cause some might use it

wintry tree Oct 28, 2020, 4:53 PM

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Are you talking about people that play professionally or just normal people? cus normal people wouldn't do that

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Only enthusiasts

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 4:54 PM

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Hmmm

wintry tree Oct 28, 2020, 4:55 PM

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bruh at this point I'm so confused

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 4:55 PM

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I wonder when RTG will get on fixing their encoder

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It's kinda garbage phaWesker

dusk igloo Oct 28, 2020, 4:55 PM

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lets put it as future proofing is a stupid term and leave it at that.... :3

wintry tree Oct 28, 2020, 4:55 PM

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Um

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 4:55 PM

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Well it kinda is

wintry tree Oct 28, 2020, 4:56 PM

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Future proofing to an extent is fine tho 🤷

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 4:57 PM

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You can't really predict what your needs will be in 5 years, once AMD came into the market with Ryzen and had great performing chips up to 8 cores developers soon started utilizing that. So there's a point there

wintry tree Oct 28, 2020, 4:57 PM

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Why buy something that's only gonna last ya 1-2 years instead of 4-5 years?

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 4:57 PM

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But right now, based on console hardware and how devs optimize their games; 8c/16t is where you need to be at least

dusk igloo Oct 28, 2020, 4:57 PM

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if this sparks a performance war we might see gains like the old days between amd and nvidia

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 4:58 PM

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And right now 6c/12t is probably fine for a couple more years, especially with the higher power delivery and clock speeds on PC

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4c/8t is actually still fine today because of the current gen consoles with their weak ass jaguar 8 cores

wintry tree Oct 28, 2020, 4:58 PM

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Still

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 4:58 PM

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That's been changing though

wintry tree Oct 28, 2020, 4:59 PM

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Why pay more overall by not future proofing instead of spending a little more now and saving money later?

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 4:59 PM

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Sure you can do that, but if you end up upgrading toward the end of this new console gen lifespan does it really matter then?

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Which will probably be like 6 years I guess

dusk igloo Oct 28, 2020, 5:00 PM

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well only time will tell who will be right

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 5:00 PM

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Like you can hang on to a graphics card for that long if you don't mind needing to turn down settings in some cases

wintry tree Oct 28, 2020, 5:01 PM

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I mean, why spend money on something that'll last ya 2 years, then spend more money on something to last ya longer instead of spending a bit more money now on something that'll last ya for 5+ years

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You'll save money overall if you future proof more now

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 5:02 PM

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Well that's kind of a faulty premise, like I would agree with that in regards to the ol' skylake and kabylake i5s

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Shit even coffee lake they only gave you 6 threads

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Since the writing was on the wall

wintry tree Oct 28, 2020, 5:02 PM

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It's not faulty tho? GWmythicalThonkCool

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 5:02 PM

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It isn't out of context I suppose phaWesker

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My point is it's obvious that with 8c/16t just based on the console hardware, you won't be missing out on a ton of performance for years to come

wintry tree Oct 28, 2020, 5:03 PM

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Save money now but then spend more later instead of not saving now but then not spending later

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 5:04 PM

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Personally though, I would get the 12 core cause I think I actually would have use for that now and later phaSheva

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And I would be doubling core count so that's pretty cool PirateSimon

dusk igloo Oct 28, 2020, 5:04 PM

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but that's economics not everyone can throw 1000 dollorydoos, but they maybe able to spend 600 upgrading

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thus getting some new parts

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just because some of os throws 2-3k does not mean all can

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 5:05 PM

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Like if you're an enthusiast and want to push the absolute max performance whenever possible, great but technically that kind of person is probably upgrading whenever they can

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The concept of future proofing is nonsense to that guy, they just get the fastest stuff whenever it's available phaWesker

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If you want optimal performance for the next say 5 years, you really don't need that much just based on the console hardware phaSheva

dusk igloo Oct 28, 2020, 5:06 PM

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so future proofing is just getting best performance for the capital available :3

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 5:07 PM

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Get an 8c/16t CPU, and a graphics card that's outperforming the consoles. 3070, 6800 is pretty much doing that

dusk igloo Oct 28, 2020, 5:09 PM

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i just wish nvidia would allow me to use grid vgpu with the 3090 i would throw down that 1500 so fast

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but then again how would they sell teslas then

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 5:11 PM

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It's a gamer card larping as a Titan, they won't do it PirateSimon

dusk igloo Oct 28, 2020, 5:13 PM

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i'll just have to shill out for a used m60 i guess

lilac geyser Oct 28, 2020, 5:42 PM

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you'll rob the bank with it to be able to buy a titan?

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:)

proper wren Oct 28, 2020, 5:51 PM

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6900xt yeeyeeyee

astral musk Oct 28, 2020, 6:34 PM

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iBuyPower PCs 🙂

proper wren Oct 28, 2020, 6:35 PM

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ew

astral musk Oct 28, 2020, 6:40 PM

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I wanted to customize my PC but I was in Japan at the time I bought this one from amazon late 2018 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B079947DZK/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

abstract kite Oct 28, 2020, 6:52 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W78jqH6skjI&ab_channel=Xbox

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My god

wintry tree Oct 28, 2020, 7:00 PM

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If it can't run crysis I don't want it

fleet canopy Oct 28, 2020, 7:02 PM

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The 6900XT should give you 69FPS in crysis at max in 4K @wintry tree

wintry tree Oct 28, 2020, 7:03 PM

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No, the xbox series x fridge smh

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 7:04 PM

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Absolute mad lads

verbal drum Oct 28, 2020, 7:20 PM

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I need help, this is really annoying. I keep crashing when my settings are made to 1440p. I have the recomanded i7-4790k, and a 1080ti. What should my advanced video be and what can I do? A couple minutes in I crash in a game, when in 1080p on my 1440p monitor it has no issues, this has been a problem for me ever since I started playing this week

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 7:24 PM

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#gtfo-technical-support

dense wasp Oct 28, 2020, 7:24 PM

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sounds odd

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but yeah, tech support is a better channel 🙂

astral musk Oct 28, 2020, 7:48 PM

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Is that a real thing the fridge? o.o

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@verbal drum you should do a system scan of your pc and make sure your graphics card and all are up to date

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 7:55 PM

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It seems to be yeah

fleet canopy Oct 28, 2020, 8:10 PM

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3000$ gaming PC here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1F8Y-z5zwDU

tall quail Oct 28, 2020, 8:58 PM

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Has anybody mounted a video card vertically? What case did you use?

fleet canopy Oct 28, 2020, 9:03 PM

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I've seen vertical mounting in a Lian Li o11 dynamic

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Probably a fair chance it used an XL though

eternal cairn Oct 28, 2020, 9:10 PM

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One more day until the 3070 launches. I wonder if Nvidia will have anti-bot security measures like AMD's telling their retailers to use.

fleet canopy Oct 28, 2020, 9:33 PM

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Nah @eternal cairn

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Unless they actually do

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 9:33 PM

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Doesn't matter, from the sound of it they won't have much stock anyway

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You have retailers only getting like 10 - 15% of what they ordered

dusty pumice Oct 28, 2020, 9:35 PM

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Bearz vertical mounted in a Fractal design case

fleet canopy Oct 28, 2020, 9:38 PM

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Yeah that's also true

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NVIDIA and AIBs are barely giving any to stores

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Of course, it's in a lot of areas but still

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 9:42 PM

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We should be hearing about RX 6000 stock as the release day nears

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I'm curious about that, and if there will be more RTX cards rolling out in the next couple of weeks or not

verbal drum Oct 28, 2020, 9:58 PM

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@astral musk how does one do a "system scan"

pine lion Oct 28, 2020, 10:03 PM

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Plenty of cases use vertical mount, I’d personally only do it if you need to, I have Lian LI 011 and they make a bracket where you can, either or. When vertical mounting you can drastically change your airflow, sometimes better sometimes worst, with my case my 2080ti sits right above 2 intake Fans, I prefer it to hit cold air, and then get sucked out via one of my 6 exhaust fans.

steel fable Oct 28, 2020, 10:21 PM

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question, team green or red for my gpu upgrade? currently with team green with a 1060, and when im looking to upgrade im just curious on if i should also be open to looking at AMD's graphics cards

pine lion Oct 28, 2020, 10:21 PM

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Green

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1060 upgrade to 1080ti for the best 1080p a 300-500 price point 11gb vram. Or 2070S/2080 for RTX and 8gb vram

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(Just an opinion) amd benches are impressive but.... im always team intel/ team green

steel fable Oct 28, 2020, 10:23 PM

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ah, i gotcha

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thanks for the help <3

pine lion Oct 28, 2020, 10:25 PM

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I recently sold my 2080ti in loops for getting a 3080:90 but after seeing final numbers I opted to buy another 2080ti, supposedly ti models are coming for the 80/90 I believe it was market stunt to let amd have the ball for a little.

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 10:27 PM

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Are you looking to upgrade to a similar price point card?

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Or go up a tier or two?

fleet canopy Oct 28, 2020, 10:28 PM

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You could just wait and see how AMD's GPUs are like

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Well if you wanted to keep to around $300 then there's no new release yet, AMD's will be next quarter and Nvidia's might be next month?

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Though tbf we're talking about more efficient 2070S/2080+ so phaSheva

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If you can get a good deal on a 2080 or 2080Super that doesn't seem like a bad idea

pine lion Oct 28, 2020, 10:35 PM

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I mean I just bought 2 2080 supers for 450 shipped..

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There’s legit people out there.

proper wren Oct 28, 2020, 10:38 PM

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I'm gonna try to snipe 6900XT at my workplace if they allow me

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or 6800

fleet canopy Oct 28, 2020, 10:40 PM

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Hm.

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 10:40 PM

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You don't think they'll have the same restriction on these cards?

dusty pumice Oct 28, 2020, 10:40 PM

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I might actually build a full amd pc this year just to see what its all about

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If its not to my cup of tea ill just use it as a media pc - home theatre

proper wren Oct 28, 2020, 10:40 PM

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depends on backorder logs and stock

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 10:41 PM

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As long as it isn't 10% of the total order I guess

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Seeing as that seems to be what little amount of cards Nvidia is getting out to retailers

proper wren Oct 28, 2020, 10:42 PM

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I pray for AMD's captcha if they have it

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I like how AMD is not afraid to show benchmarks on 3090 beating AMD in some games

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Due to the price difference as well

merry bay Oct 28, 2020, 10:52 PM

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They were aware they're the underdog. Most people were surprised it got close to 3080 performance, not even pondering about anything higher.

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I really hope the prices are closer to MSRP from AMD's side.

fleet canopy Oct 28, 2020, 11:01 PM

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It shouldn't as long as AMD has a solid plan to keep most if not all of the resellers from getting hands on their GPUs

proper wren Oct 28, 2020, 11:02 PM

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speaking of performance

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Young couple I was helping got prebuilt 10700kf, 2080 super, 1tb ssd sys for $3200 :(

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Tried to convince them to wait and said the prebuilt was a bad option to get during this time too

fleet canopy Oct 28, 2020, 11:04 PM

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ew gross paying 3000$ for that?

proper wren Oct 28, 2020, 11:04 PM

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MSI Pre-Built

fleet canopy Oct 28, 2020, 11:04 PM

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msi

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1F8Y-z5zwDU

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Give em this

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Best 3000$ they'll spend

proper wren Oct 28, 2020, 11:04 PM

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too late

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 11:05 PM

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3 grand computer from 1995

fleet canopy Oct 28, 2020, 11:05 PM

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f

proper wren Oct 28, 2020, 11:05 PM

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They said they trusted intel more with their security lol

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 11:05 PM

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Hahahahahaha

fleet canopy Oct 28, 2020, 11:05 PM

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lmao

proper wren Oct 28, 2020, 11:05 PM

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I died inside

fleet canopy Oct 28, 2020, 11:05 PM

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Fucking lie

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 11:05 PM

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They didn't hear about Spoiler, Zombieload what else is there?

fleet canopy Oct 28, 2020, 11:05 PM

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Poor peapod

proper wren Oct 28, 2020, 11:05 PM

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this sys https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=7_1203_121&item_id=169784

fleet canopy Oct 28, 2020, 11:06 PM

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Sooo

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Did they really need this PC or what

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 11:06 PM

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I think they probably ironed out those vulnerabilities by now... but I dunno

proper wren Oct 28, 2020, 11:06 PM

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ZBrush, Maya

fleet canopy Oct 28, 2020, 11:06 PM

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sounds like

proper wren Oct 28, 2020, 11:06 PM

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You can run Maya on 3700x and Zbrush with rtx 2060 or 5700xt. A prebuilt like that would be $1600

fleet canopy Oct 28, 2020, 11:06 PM

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ye ig

proper wren Oct 28, 2020, 11:07 PM

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People be people

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 11:07 PM

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What are those?

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An art program and a 3d modeler or something?

fleet canopy Oct 28, 2020, 11:07 PM

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ye

proper wren Oct 28, 2020, 11:07 PM

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Autodesk Maya

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3d modelling softwares

fleet canopy Oct 28, 2020, 11:08 PM

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Sounds like something my 7700K + 1060 3GB could run

proper wren Oct 28, 2020, 11:08 PM

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your sys can run it

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bare minimum for updated versions though

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 11:08 PM

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It can run it, but as always its a matter of overall performance and speed

fleet canopy Oct 28, 2020, 11:08 PM

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Ye, 3700X and 2070 Super gamin

proper wren Oct 28, 2020, 11:10 PM

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I wish to sell $300 budget prebuilts again

fleet canopy Oct 28, 2020, 11:10 PM

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:(

proper wren Oct 28, 2020, 11:10 PM

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then I can slap a $200 videocard on it and call it gaming

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 11:11 PM

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Oh where you take an old OEM system and add a low power graphics card

proper wren Oct 28, 2020, 11:11 PM

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nah like an actual prebuilt

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3200g, 8gbs, 256/512gb ssd, crappy gigabyte motherboard

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because most of those people that would buy that would only play league or fortnite

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 11:12 PM

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That would be more than $300 though

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Well with the graphics card

proper wren Oct 28, 2020, 11:12 PM

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well maybe around $600 now lol

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in CAD

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 11:12 PM

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$300 fortnite machine

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phaSip

proper wren Oct 28, 2020, 11:13 PM

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get 3rd or 4th gen oem machine and slap used 950 or 1050 in it

dusty pumice Oct 28, 2020, 11:13 PM

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Guess thats how msi makes a profit

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 11:13 PM

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I've seen people on youtube make dirt cheap builds using used parts

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Really good performance

proper wren Oct 28, 2020, 11:13 PM

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Scrapyard wars

vapid crypt Oct 28, 2020, 11:14 PM

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Yeah Linus does have that series

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I was thinking of KristoferYee

proper wren Oct 28, 2020, 11:15 PM

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The new MSI Modern notebooks without graphics is meh

strong whale Oct 29, 2020, 12:34 AM

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didn't expect 6900xt to go toe-toe with the 3090

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somehow a lot of people are dissapointed about the pricing being $999, we should be blaming Nvidia for that

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6900xt*

fleet canopy Oct 29, 2020, 12:35 AM

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Ya mean Nice00XT?

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999$ is a perfectly fine price for it

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Other than that

strong whale Oct 29, 2020, 12:35 AM

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ik

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for some reason people are complaining

fleet canopy Oct 29, 2020, 12:36 AM

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I noticed the 6800XT is basically a cutdown of the 6900XT

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Because people are stupid

strong whale Oct 29, 2020, 12:36 AM

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all the 6900xt is - is a halo product

jade surge Oct 29, 2020, 12:36 AM

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well if the 3070 beats 6800 in performance and price then I can see AMD dropping prices to compete

strong whale Oct 29, 2020, 12:36 AM

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3070 will be barely faster than 2080ti

fleet canopy Oct 29, 2020, 12:37 AM

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What's with the Smart thing and RAGE?

strong whale Oct 29, 2020, 12:37 AM

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rage overclocks for you

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smart is better performance on the ryzen 5000 series

fleet canopy Oct 29, 2020, 12:37 AM

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Ah

strong whale Oct 29, 2020, 12:37 AM

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due to infinity cache and anti-latency

fleet canopy Oct 29, 2020, 12:37 AM

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Makes sense

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Time to invest in 5900X and 6800XT

strong whale Oct 29, 2020, 12:38 AM

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basically buy ryzen 5000 chips for slightly better performance with rx6000 cards, developers will likely optimize it more in the future for even bigger gains

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i planned to buy both regardless

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so win for me

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oh do you need pcie 4.0 to take advantage of that feature?

fleet canopy Oct 29, 2020, 12:39 AM

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Nah

vapid crypt Oct 29, 2020, 12:39 AM

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Um they didn't go into detail exactly

fleet canopy Oct 29, 2020, 12:39 AM

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Only 500 can use Zen 3 afaik

vapid crypt Oct 29, 2020, 12:39 AM

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Just that it only works on the latest chipsets

fleet canopy Oct 29, 2020, 12:39 AM

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I forget things so eh

vapid crypt Oct 29, 2020, 12:39 AM

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And with Zen 3

strong whale Oct 29, 2020, 12:39 AM

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all i saw is "paired with 500 series boards" or something

fleet canopy Oct 29, 2020, 12:39 AM

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Probably because better handling with 500 series

vapid crypt Oct 29, 2020, 12:40 AM

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I'm wondering if they could make it work with say Zen 2, but it's not something they want to do so phaSheva

strong whale Oct 29, 2020, 12:40 AM

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kind of expected an x670 lineup, hopefully there wont be

fleet canopy Oct 29, 2020, 12:40 AM

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Nah, not for a while