#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk | GTFO | Page 146

vapid crypt Sep 20, 2020, 4:47 AM

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Though there could be a 20? Or maybe they just changed the name, cause the biggest die in RDNA 1 was 10

fleet canopy Sep 20, 2020, 4:48 AM

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I mean

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There were multiple RDNA1 launches, yeah?

vapid crypt Sep 20, 2020, 4:49 AM

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Yeah there was 5700/XT 5600XT and 5500XT

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And there was the pro 5700

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For their pro cards

fleet canopy Sep 20, 2020, 4:49 AM

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They launched pro cards?

vapid crypt Sep 20, 2020, 4:49 AM

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Yeah

fleet canopy Sep 20, 2020, 4:49 AM

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How the hell have I not seen that?

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Or heard of it

vapid crypt Sep 20, 2020, 4:49 AM

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Think of them like competing with entry level quadros

fleet canopy Sep 20, 2020, 4:49 AM

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So just to equal the playing field?

vapid crypt Sep 20, 2020, 4:50 AM

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They also had the Radeon Pro VII

fleet canopy Sep 20, 2020, 4:50 AM

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But still, I'm surprised I never heard of the Pro gpu in the first place

vapid crypt Sep 20, 2020, 4:50 AM

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Which would have been their high end pro card

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Rather is

abstract kite Sep 20, 2020, 5:06 AM

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I need Standoff screws for a M.2

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https://www.amazon.com/Connectors-Mounting-Gigabyte-Motherboards-L02-M2G-KIT/dp/B07MQY3LB7

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Will these work?

vapid crypt Sep 20, 2020, 5:09 AM

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What are you missing the ones that come with the motherboard?

abstract kite Sep 20, 2020, 5:09 AM

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Yes

vapid crypt Sep 20, 2020, 5:10 AM

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Then it should, its marked for Gigabyte/MSI so it is what it is

abstract kite Sep 20, 2020, 5:14 AM

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Reviews are saying it does not fit all MSI Boards

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:c

fleet canopy Sep 20, 2020, 5:17 AM

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Then does it list any MSI boards?

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I believe if it fits some, they should have a list showing what it goes on

lilac geyser Sep 20, 2020, 5:19 AM

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galerous didnt have a power cable the other day, and no doesnt have the motherboard accessories

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who's computer did you steal?

abstract kite Sep 20, 2020, 5:19 AM

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I was!

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Fixed it though

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And @fleet canopy it just says "Gigabyte & MSI Motherboards (L02-M2G-KIT)"

fleet canopy Sep 20, 2020, 5:20 AM

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Very basic naming with no in detail of what it fits

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Lame

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Maybe there's an official page for it?

abstract kite Sep 20, 2020, 5:25 AM

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Looking for it, but no luck as of right now.

eternal cairn Sep 20, 2020, 5:58 AM

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My motherboard never came with screws.

merry bay Sep 20, 2020, 6:09 AM

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my M.2 screws were preinstalled already

proper wren Sep 20, 2020, 8:06 AM

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so there's like

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over 400 backorders for RTX 3080 EVGA gpus and around 50-70 backorders on rtx 3080 Gigabytes

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@_@ deal with 10 backorders per day

nimble anvil Sep 20, 2020, 9:14 AM

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Sho feet

kindred fiber Sep 20, 2020, 9:44 AM

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i'm about to buy a new Headphone. Budget around 50$.
Which one do you guys recommend ? My previous one is SteelSeries Rival 100 and it's pretty good. But i want to try something new.
Purpose: Balanced between gaming and music .

nimble anvil Sep 20, 2020, 9:47 AM

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I'd recommend the logitec brand for their high quality

kindred fiber Sep 20, 2020, 9:49 AM

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can you specify a model number or something ?

meager umbra Sep 20, 2020, 10:39 AM

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I just got done unifying under steel series for keyboard mouse and headset

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I had a Logitech keyboard. Corsair mouse, and steel series headset. My second choice was to unify under Corsair

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Logitech is good but I’ve been enjoying both Corsair and steelseries products lately. Better than razer and Logitech.

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The reason I like the steel series Arctis 5 headset is the dial to adjust the mix of chat and game audio.

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I set discord to go out the voice channel and windows default to go out “game” and then I can adjust the mix with the little dial.

sage venture Sep 20, 2020, 10:42 AM

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Gotta question before I buy this game. Is it pretty CPU intensive?

meager umbra Sep 20, 2020, 10:43 AM

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What’s your cpu?

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I think if you have any core i5 or i7 you should be fine

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Or a ryzen comparable

sage venture Sep 20, 2020, 10:43 AM

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i5-4670k it's just been a little fucky here lately.

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Temperamental rather.

meager umbra Sep 20, 2020, 10:44 AM

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I’d say that is on the lowish end but it shouldn’t die under GTFO

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If it was an i3 I’d say it’s sketchy but

sage venture Sep 20, 2020, 10:45 AM

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Yeah I kinda figured.

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Due for an upgrade but apocalypse and shit lol

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This game certainly seems like a great beer with buddies game though.

meager umbra Sep 20, 2020, 10:46 AM

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I had an i7 3770 like 7 years ago and I’m pretty sure if I had that machine still, it would run GTFO

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I guess 8 years ago now

sage venture Sep 20, 2020, 10:46 AM

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I wish I could test it before I bought it just to see.

meager umbra Sep 20, 2020, 10:46 AM

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So a next gen i5 from that shouldn’t be an issue

sage venture Sep 20, 2020, 10:47 AM

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Hate to 'waste' money on a game that I won't be happy with performance wise.

meager umbra Sep 20, 2020, 10:47 AM

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It’s mostly graphics bound AFAIK

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The maps aren’t huge, the AI is “dumb”

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Well the initial maps aren’t lol

sage venture Sep 20, 2020, 10:48 AM

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That is good news I'm running two 1080ti's (yeah I know...)

meager umbra Sep 20, 2020, 10:48 AM

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1080tis are fine for 1080p gaming

sage venture Sep 20, 2020, 10:49 AM

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Yeah I'm still too used to 1080p to swap. Hell I just recently swapped to 144hz

meager umbra Sep 20, 2020, 10:49 AM

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I know of plenty of people with them still and they are just fine. Don’t try 1440 p or 4K though

sage venture Sep 20, 2020, 10:49 AM

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I think I'll give it a shot then. Fuck it.

meager umbra Sep 20, 2020, 10:50 AM

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I run my 2080ti @1440p and it run this game flawlessly. But I also vsync @60hz and cap the framerate there

sage venture Sep 20, 2020, 10:50 AM

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And I'm getting decent FPS In Tarkov so I would hope that I could do well in this.

meager umbra Sep 20, 2020, 10:50 AM

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Yeah if you can play Tarkov I think you’ll be fine here

sage venture Sep 20, 2020, 10:51 AM

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That's spectacular news.

meager umbra Sep 20, 2020, 10:51 AM

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It’s the exact same engine

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You might even get better frames here because of view distance

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You never really end up in a place where you can see very far at all compared to tarkov and outdoors areas

merry bay Sep 20, 2020, 11:12 AM

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@sage venture You can test it. Steam are glad to refund if you played under 2hrs and purchase wasn't over 2 weeks ago.

nimble anvil Sep 20, 2020, 1:34 PM

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@kindred fiber Sorry, I just saw your message

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I'll take a look at the best one for $50

kindred fiber Sep 20, 2020, 1:34 PM

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it's ok LOL.

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since Logitech is a good brand,it's not hard to find one suits me well

nimble anvil Sep 20, 2020, 1:36 PM

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https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing-accessories/computer-accessories/headsets-and-microphones/logitech-g432-gaming-headset-black-blue-10191018-pdt.html?store=2434&=--present--&istCompanyId=bec25c7e-cbcd-460d-81d5-a25372d2e3d7&istFeedId=2928af81-b29b-476c-a180-ac5de265a98e&istItemId=wqxmlrtmp&istBid=t&srcid=198&cmpid=ppc~gg~1016+(Shopping+Ads)+Gaming+Accs+-+Generic~1016+(PLA)+PC+GAMING+ad+group~Exact&mctag=gg_goog_7904&kwid=GOOGLE&device=m&ds_kids=92700053848944456&tgtid=1016+(Shopping+Ads)+Gaming+Accs+-+Generic&gclsrc=aw.ds&PLA=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw-5v7BRAmEiwAJ3DpuFzS8QQUYyJOwa50u9lBer9M8N-iznntBfVKcKz4QgSrYNrAUdK_bhoC_cEQAvD_BwE this is one that's pretty good, although it may be slightly over your budget

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That's a British website too, but you can probably find it wherever you live too

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I've had other brands like Razer, Sony and Turtle Beach. They all broke, but the Logitec one's have never broken on me

kindred fiber Sep 20, 2020, 1:38 PM

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hm... we have G431 here but not G432. Should be the same

nimble anvil Sep 20, 2020, 1:38 PM

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Yeah, they're pretty much the same

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@abstract kite Chill out bro

kindred fiber Sep 20, 2020, 1:38 PM

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the design seems pretty good

nimble anvil Sep 20, 2020, 1:39 PM

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Yeah, but that's too much work

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But if it's not a gamer headset then it will cause me to not be able to play well

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Only weird people have those microphones

wise pumice Sep 20, 2020, 1:47 PM

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https://www.amazon.co.uk/Rode-Microphones-NT-USB-Microphone/dp/B00KQPGRRE/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=rode+ntusb&qid=1600609613&s=musical-instruments&sr=1-1

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I got this one it's great

solid sundial Sep 20, 2020, 3:11 PM

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intel just released a gpu better than rtx 3080 for 300 bucks

wise pumice Sep 20, 2020, 3:12 PM

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{X} - Doubt

fleet canopy Sep 20, 2020, 3:13 PM

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What a wack mic

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One that apple posted

solid sundial Sep 20, 2020, 3:44 PM

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omg i just hate it when my keyboard language chances

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from all the dodge spam in witcher 3

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😕

abstract kite Sep 20, 2020, 3:52 PM

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That is a bit strange if true

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@void perch ever get a 3080?

void perch Sep 20, 2020, 4:03 PM

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nah. checked a few places, all sold out, stopped looking

abstract kite Sep 20, 2020, 4:03 PM

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Damn

fleet canopy Sep 20, 2020, 4:24 PM

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Eh, not really worth trying to claim one atm

sick reef Sep 20, 2020, 4:51 PM

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It's hard to beat bots.

fleet canopy Sep 20, 2020, 4:52 PM

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It looks weird, that's all

nimble anvil Sep 20, 2020, 6:30 PM

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Konami just released a graphics card 2 x the power of the 3090

eternal cairn Sep 20, 2020, 6:31 PM

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I mean, I don't stream as much, but it's still nice having a high quality mic when talking on Discord or other voice chats.

nimble anvil Sep 20, 2020, 6:32 PM

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I have a $4000 mic because I enjoy recording my voice then listening back to it

eternal cairn Sep 20, 2020, 6:32 PM

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I hate the sound of my voice.

nimble anvil Sep 20, 2020, 6:32 PM

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I get off to my own voice

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If you want to hear it, I'll send you my ASMR collection of 2000 minutes of my voice

eternal cairn Sep 20, 2020, 6:34 PM

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I'm fine. The only ASMR I need is Bob Ross, and he streams on Twitch. LUL

eternal cairn Sep 20, 2020, 8:07 PM

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Wait, the Xbox Series X is $34.99 a month for 24 months. I thought it was $24.99.

fleet canopy Sep 20, 2020, 8:07 PM

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Ripoff!!!!!!

eternal cairn Sep 20, 2020, 8:08 PM

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$24.99 a month over 24 months is $600. $34.99 a month over that same time period is $839.76

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Did Microsoft just recently change that or was I hallucinating?

fleet canopy Sep 20, 2020, 8:09 PM

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Uhhh

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R i p o f f

eternal cairn Sep 20, 2020, 8:12 PM

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I mean, it still includes Game Pass, but that makes it less of a steal.

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Oh, wait. The Series S is $24.99 a month and the X is $34.99. That's still a ripoff either way.

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It's stupid how people are saying it's "such a steal".

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I mean, you're still paying for the Game Pass in that $34.99 a month.

fleet canopy Sep 20, 2020, 8:20 PM

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So this is just game pass subscription?

eternal cairn Sep 20, 2020, 8:20 PM

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Yeah, the payment plan includes Game Pass Ultimate for 2 years.

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That, Xbox Live too.

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And EA Play membership.

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I guess it really depends if you'd actually use all of those things.

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It's not a game, it's the console.

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I think they rotate games every month though.

fleet canopy Sep 20, 2020, 8:25 PM

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It sounds like a literal name replacement for Xbox Live

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Which is stupid just like PS plus

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Pay to play online shit ffs

eternal cairn Sep 20, 2020, 8:26 PM

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I honestly would have considered PlayStation until they announced PSN Plus.

fleet canopy Sep 20, 2020, 8:27 PM

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When did they announce PS Plus?

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Always thought it was a thing

eternal cairn Sep 20, 2020, 8:27 PM

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Like 6 years ago.

fleet canopy Sep 20, 2020, 8:27 PM

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So PS3

eternal cairn Sep 20, 2020, 8:27 PM

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Maybe it was 4-5 years ago.

fleet canopy Sep 20, 2020, 8:27 PM

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Even Xbox had the same shit

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Xbox Gold or Xbox Live is literally the same thing as PS Plus

eternal cairn Sep 20, 2020, 8:28 PM

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PS4 was around the time they introduced their online subscription system.

fleet canopy Sep 20, 2020, 8:28 PM

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Nah I believe PS Plus was on PS3

eternal cairn Sep 20, 2020, 8:28 PM

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All I remember is that their subscription had shit perks at launch and you could only pay $9.99 a month for it.

fleet canopy Sep 20, 2020, 8:29 PM

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Hm

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Maybe you're right, but Xbox Live/Gold is def the same thing

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You couldn't use netflix without fucking xbox live/gold whatever

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Like on the Xbox 360

eternal cairn Sep 20, 2020, 8:32 PM

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So, with 2 years of Xbox Live Gold, that makes it $120.
Adding EA Play membership, which costs $29.99 a year brings it to roughly $60 total.
I guess you'd have to bundle PC and Console versions of Game Pass (the non-Ultimate one), so together those would cost $20 a month, which over time would be $480. But since Ultimate includes them both, it's only $359.
However, considering that the Game Pass Ultimate already includes Xbox Gold and EA Play, the total price for both the console and the pass would be $859, but we only pay $839 over the course of 2 years.

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So people save roughly $20 if they go with the payment plan versus buying the console and pass separately, but it ultimately depends if you actually use the full benefits of the Game Pass Ultimate or not.

abstract kite Sep 20, 2020, 8:37 PM

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It is an ultimate experience

eternal cairn Sep 20, 2020, 8:47 PM

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Supposedly, there are rumors going around that Microsoft is removing Xbox Live Gold.

abstract kite Sep 20, 2020, 8:58 PM

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So moving a OS looks super difficult

fleet canopy Sep 20, 2020, 9:16 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nw3ykG5IanI GN doing the world record 3080 oc

twin pivot Sep 20, 2020, 9:31 PM

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📎 unknown.png

eternal cairn Sep 20, 2020, 9:31 PM

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That RAM is excessive.

twin pivot Sep 20, 2020, 9:31 PM

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im worth it

eternal cairn Sep 20, 2020, 9:32 PM

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That build is going to be over $3,000.

twin pivot Sep 20, 2020, 9:32 PM

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yes sir

eternal cairn Sep 20, 2020, 9:33 PM

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Do you currently have a PC or nah?

twin pivot Sep 20, 2020, 9:33 PM

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currently have one

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i9 9900k 2080 ti

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same ram as that but its just 3200

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not 4000

eternal cairn Sep 20, 2020, 9:33 PM

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Why not keep the 9900k? It's better for gaming.

twin pivot Sep 20, 2020, 9:34 PM

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im swapping to an amd build

eternal cairn Sep 20, 2020, 9:34 PM

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I mean, I understand why, but it looks like you're trying to for an ultimate PC build.

twin pivot Sep 20, 2020, 9:34 PM

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if i cant launch 9000 windows of chrome

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why even have a computer

raw anvil Sep 20, 2020, 9:34 PM

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...

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BRUH

twin pivot Sep 20, 2020, 9:34 PM

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lol

eternal cairn Sep 20, 2020, 9:35 PM

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CPU isn't the problem with Chrome tabs, it's RAM.

raw anvil Sep 20, 2020, 9:35 PM

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KirbyStop

twin pivot Sep 20, 2020, 9:35 PM

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oh so youre saying i need more expensive ram

eternal cairn Sep 20, 2020, 9:35 PM

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And you'd need at least 48 GB of RAM to stop Chrome from eating half of it.

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Capacity, not speed.

twin pivot Sep 20, 2020, 9:35 PM

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4x64 4400mhz

raw anvil Sep 20, 2020, 9:35 PM

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SO WHAT IM HEARING IS SIZE MATTERS........

eternal cairn Sep 20, 2020, 9:35 PM

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Do those even exist? 😆

raw anvil Sep 20, 2020, 9:36 PM

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IVE

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BEEN

twin pivot Sep 20, 2020, 9:36 PM

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lmfao

raw anvil Sep 20, 2020, 9:36 PM

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LIED

twin pivot Sep 20, 2020, 9:36 PM

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ima getr them custom made

raw anvil Sep 20, 2020, 9:36 PM

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TO

eternal cairn Sep 20, 2020, 9:36 PM

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Nice. Who from?

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I still think you'd need to go Intel over AMD for an over-the-top gaming rig. If you can't play games a microsecond faster, it's not worth it.

twin pivot Sep 20, 2020, 9:37 PM

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true

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plus the case the cpu comes in is cooler

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i9 10980KS

eternal cairn Sep 20, 2020, 9:38 PM

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While you're at it, upgrade to a 8 TB SSD.

fleet canopy Sep 20, 2020, 9:38 PM

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Size matters for many things

twin pivot Sep 20, 2020, 9:38 PM

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80 TB*

eternal cairn Sep 20, 2020, 9:38 PM

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1 TB = 🤏

fleet canopy Sep 20, 2020, 9:38 PM

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I want petabyte of the fastest SSD in the world

eternal cairn Sep 20, 2020, 9:39 PM

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I want a yottabyte.

tough gull Sep 20, 2020, 9:40 PM

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a yodabyte

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storage, i have.

eternal cairn Sep 20, 2020, 9:40 PM

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Believe you...

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I do not.

twin pivot Sep 20, 2020, 9:41 PM

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if i dont run 6 games at once at 6000 fps apiece whats the point

fleet canopy Sep 20, 2020, 9:41 PM

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This is superior https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KCx8hg

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And yes, the 1080p 144hz is necessary

eternal cairn Sep 20, 2020, 9:41 PM

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That RAM isn't.

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In terms of speed.

fleet canopy Sep 20, 2020, 9:42 PM

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Shut

eternal cairn Sep 20, 2020, 9:42 PM

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Because higher RAM speed means <insert something here>.

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Oh, I just realized your build was $20,000, not $2,000. LOL

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They don't include commas.

fleet canopy Sep 20, 2020, 9:43 PM

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:))

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How else do you think the 3990X and the 2x Quadro 8000 is included

eternal cairn Sep 20, 2020, 9:44 PM

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Wait, why is a 3.2 TB SSD $3,000?

fleet canopy Sep 20, 2020, 9:44 PM

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It's PCIe SSD

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dummy

eternal cairn Sep 20, 2020, 9:44 PM

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Ah.

fleet canopy Sep 20, 2020, 9:44 PM

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fastest all around 😎😎😎

eternal cairn Sep 20, 2020, 9:44 PM

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Where are the extra monitors?

fleet canopy Sep 20, 2020, 9:44 PM

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pfft

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Your imagination is your monitor

eternal cairn Sep 20, 2020, 9:45 PM

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You gotta have 6 monitors with wall mounts.

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And run Crysis on each of them.

fleet canopy Sep 20, 2020, 9:45 PM

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How about 3

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XJc9x6

eternal cairn Sep 20, 2020, 9:46 PM

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I said a monitor, not a TV.

fleet canopy Sep 20, 2020, 9:46 PM

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Fucking

lilac geyser Sep 20, 2020, 9:46 PM

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ha

fleet canopy Sep 20, 2020, 9:46 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nD94Xv

eternal cairn Sep 20, 2020, 9:46 PM

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You shouldn't be able to see any of the pixels on the screen from 1 foot away.

fleet canopy Sep 20, 2020, 9:47 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kvX4Xv

lilac geyser Sep 20, 2020, 9:47 PM

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still missing rgb fans

fleet canopy Sep 20, 2020, 9:47 PM

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there https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NqC727

eternal cairn Sep 20, 2020, 9:48 PM

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Now you need an RGB case.

fleet canopy Sep 20, 2020, 9:48 PM

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fucking rgb

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wwhyyt!!!

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xKzJFG

eternal cairn Sep 20, 2020, 9:49 PM

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Because you're Gay and you gotta go all in on a full RGB build.

fleet canopy Sep 20, 2020, 9:49 PM

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Hmph

eternal cairn Sep 20, 2020, 9:50 PM

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It also has to be a case that's in stock somewhere, otherwise you failed.

fleet canopy Sep 20, 2020, 9:51 PM

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: )

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Search it nerd

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https://www.amazon.com/Anidees-Crystal-Tempered-Support-Radiator/dp/B07NW42KN9

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Anything's listed is on sale

eternal cairn Sep 20, 2020, 9:52 PM

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I'm not the one buying, you are.

fleet canopy Sep 20, 2020, 9:52 PM

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Didn't say I was buying it

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Ah ah

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I need an OS

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Windows Server 2008

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Perfect

eternal cairn Sep 20, 2020, 9:53 PM

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Windows Enterprise or Pro, whichever's got more perks.

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No, you aren't using this for a server.

fleet canopy Sep 20, 2020, 9:53 PM

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:(

eternal cairn Sep 20, 2020, 9:53 PM

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You're using it just for gaming and other stuff.

fleet canopy Sep 20, 2020, 9:53 PM

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Just get server OS and make it play games

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Fine

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Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 OEM 64-bit

eternal cairn Sep 20, 2020, 9:54 PM

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You can come up with your own game streaming service later, but you'll have to settle with being $40,000 in debt for now.

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No, Windows 7 is obsolete.

fleet canopy Sep 20, 2020, 9:54 PM

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Fuck this shit

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I'll just install linux on it

eternal cairn Sep 20, 2020, 9:55 PM

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Hope you know how to operate it. 😆

fleet canopy Sep 20, 2020, 9:55 PM

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Who the fuck cares if I know how to operate it

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I'm going to buy it

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And sell it to a kid for 60,000$

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20K profit ezpz

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Actually no

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100,000$

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Then get a 60K profit\

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After which I wait

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For a long time

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Until I buy the new R9 5900X, buy RDNA2 Navi 21, with 32GB RAM of DDR5-3200MHz CAS16

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Sounds perfect

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That's how PCMR works

proper wren Sep 20, 2020, 10:22 PM

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I cant wait for 6900xt

fleet canopy Sep 20, 2020, 10:25 PM

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Me too

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It's said to beat the 3080 possibly

twin pivot Sep 20, 2020, 10:27 PM

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@eternal cairn what model of tesla should i use for my next computer case?

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📎 image0.jpg

vapid crypt Sep 20, 2020, 10:51 PM

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Shit I've been hearing it might be trading blows with the 3090, but I won't believe that until I see it. Would be crazy tbh, though if it is beating the 3080 then it likely will be doing just that

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3090 is only like 10 - 15% faster than the 3080

fleet canopy Sep 20, 2020, 10:54 PM

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Yeah it probably could beat a 3090 but more likely just the 3080

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Maybe it'll beat a 3090 largely in price to performance

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Hopefully with less power usage too

twin pivot Sep 20, 2020, 11:22 PM

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Its only 15% faster than the 2080ti

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Putting it between the 3070 and 3080

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Theres a video out on it

vapid crypt Sep 20, 2020, 11:24 PM

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The 15% faster thing is based on leaks from AIBs

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Its not the biggest card

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A while back there was a leak from AIBs that said a Radeon card was 15% faster than the 2080Ti, that likely is not the biggest navi card

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Its the 6800XT I figure, not the 6900

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Don't really have one PirateSimon

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Earlier today Not an Apple Fan did a live stream talking about stuff he knows about Navi

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Its down now, but there was some info there

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But basically, the AIBs don't know about the biggest card. They have info about a Navi 21 card that's 60CU with 256-bit memory bus. This is the one that will slide in between the 3070 and 3080 for like $550 probably

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Well Apple the company yes phaWesker

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I'm not really sure if they're gonna be showing the 6700 cards, cause those will be Sub $500

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At least I would think so

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We don't know, but I don't expect that to be as much of an issue

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AMD has better yields with the node they're using for one, and no one who's a mainstream gamer gives a shit really. At worst there might be some pricks using that bounce shipping bot or whatever its called

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As long as there's limits and some checks in place for bots, it should be okay and it won't be sold out in a 30 second time window phaWesker

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Personally I just want a $400 or less card, pair that with a discounted 3700X later

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Whatever is taking the place of the 5700XT pretty much

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I'm not sure if they're launching that this quarter though

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They're probably only launching like 4 cards

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Yeah all Navi 21

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80CU two 72CU and a 60CU

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There's some info here both about Zen 3 and RDNA 2

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67neiFwzrmI

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And as I suspected, the idea of having a ton of a cache with a smaller memory bus is cheaper. And their idea is to have really good scaling using the high amount of cache

fleet canopy Sep 20, 2020, 11:52 PM

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Ah

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Then that'll be pretty exciting

vapid crypt Sep 20, 2020, 11:58 PM

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Hmm so based on what's said, RDNA 2 is up to 30% faster across the board. Meaning a 40CU RDNA 2 card is probably like 25% faster than RDNA 1 (5700XT) and if that's true oh my phaWesker

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Though I'm not sure about that, it contradicts the AIB leaks

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Then again we still don't know the card in question

jade surge Sep 21, 2020, 2:30 AM

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If we have learned anything from the Nvidia leaks, we really don't know anything at all. We won't know much until we see them actually running. Nvidia said 2x the 2080ti and that tragically overstated. The 3080 will be a true beast once they release a 3080 with more RAM. Until then it will be a beast in 1440 and really good in 4k. But they need more than enough ram and not just enough. Out the gate if all reports are true there will be more VRAM with the RDNA cards which will allow for more headroom

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But in the end I will be more than satisfied with 2080ti performance that costs less that 600

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pair that with the new Zen 3 chips and we will be good to go.

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What I want to see is the new chipset AMD will use to replace the x570

vapid crypt Sep 21, 2020, 2:32 AM

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The leaks were fairly accurate, the nvidia marketing was obviously exaggerated, the only thing that was wrong was shader count; AIBs got the wrong info clearly.

jade surge Sep 21, 2020, 2:34 AM

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so if getting the info wrong is possible we shall see what may come. I don't care if AMD is back on top I just want to see good performing cards which will drive Nvidia to reasonably price their cards

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more competition

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I am just glad to finally see AMD put out really good processors cause now they have Intel against the ropes trying everything they can to beat AMD

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hell Intel is more obsessed with AMD than fanboys are

vapid crypt Sep 21, 2020, 2:36 AM

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Oh you saw the Tiger Lake event too PirateSimon

jade surge Sep 21, 2020, 2:36 AM

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Oh it was DEFINITELY an event

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I thought it was an AMD event

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Intel only has the whole fastest gaming chip angle. But if Zen 3 improves like each new generation of Zen has before then Intel is truly in trouble

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Intel got cocky IMO

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The Zen architecture was AMD's hail mary pass and it worked out rather well. Lisa Su is a godsend

proper wren Sep 21, 2020, 7:07 AM

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Gonna take like 2-4 months for all the 3080 EVGAS cards to come and fulfill orders

jade surge Sep 21, 2020, 12:34 PM

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we may not see any 3080 or even 3090 cards until next year

brisk badger Sep 21, 2020, 12:37 PM

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but gpu's are a necessity 😢 😠

willow marten Sep 21, 2020, 12:44 PM

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I mean, APU is always there

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 12:59 PM

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Would it be unethical to build a bot to auto order a FE card if you're going to use it yourself and not sell on?

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I got banned from the Nvidia Discord for making a joke about Nvidia announcing that they're going to have another 50 cards in stock next week

fleet canopy Sep 21, 2020, 1:21 PM

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lmfao

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What the hell

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How'd that dumb joke hurt their ego like that?

brisk badger Sep 21, 2020, 1:23 PM

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unethical yes but I think there is bigger problems regarding the low availability

fleet canopy Sep 21, 2020, 1:24 PM

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Eh, I dunno

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It was an even more rushed launch than any game since the 30% performance for 15-25% more power

brisk badger Sep 21, 2020, 1:27 PM

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it's not a bad card but somehow people are way overhyped about it

fleet canopy Sep 21, 2020, 1:28 PM

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I was more hoping their performance would be good

brisk badger Sep 21, 2020, 1:28 PM

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and it's just sad how people throw away their already beefy card for something like

fleet canopy Sep 21, 2020, 1:28 PM

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While it is, and it's pretty great having a 500$ 2080 Ti, it kinda sucks considering like

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It's just a rushed launch

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ANd yeah

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People throwing away 2080 ti for 3070 be like

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Literally the same GPU but it can't even run 4K

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Not as good as 4K

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But in usual cases anyone who bought a 2080 Ti more likely owns a 1440p so I dunno if they did have a 4K anyways

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And for the better RTX as well ig

brisk badger Sep 21, 2020, 1:30 PM

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if you have like a 980 and bought a 4k monitor or a 144hz monitor before launch to upgrade; I can understand why you want to buy it. There is usecases where I can say yea sure buy the 3080 but just to squeeze this extra performance out and yo ualready own a titan or a 2080 (ti) I think goes into the extreme of the cult people of apple

fleet canopy Sep 21, 2020, 1:31 PM

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The 3080 performs better than 2080 Ti in some amount

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Idk about how it performs considering 4K

brisk badger Sep 21, 2020, 1:31 PM

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i did not really bother myself watching 3080 stuff but I think it beats the 2080ti generally everywhere? or not

fleet canopy Sep 21, 2020, 1:31 PM

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I think I remember the 3080 is like a little less than 2080 Ti's 384-bit

brisk badger Sep 21, 2020, 1:32 PM

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the amount of ram the 3080 was also wisely chosen. now the era of 4k is about to start and the 10gb is fine as of today but it's not future proof at all

fleet canopy Sep 21, 2020, 1:33 PM

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True

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If you wanted more vram, just wait for 20GB version

brisk badger Sep 21, 2020, 1:33 PM

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making you consider upgrading again in a year and a half

fleet canopy Sep 21, 2020, 1:33 PM

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lole

brisk badger Sep 21, 2020, 1:33 PM

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creating more ewaste, enabling more people to buy and sell on day 1 etc

fleet canopy Sep 21, 2020, 1:33 PM

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And everyone who bought the 3080 10gb becomes the idiot while I go ahead and buy myself the 3080 20GB PirateSimon

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After the whole bullshit is over again of course

brisk badger Sep 21, 2020, 1:34 PM

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I don't mean to offend people but I can already that the people who really want (not need) the 3080 now will also ditch this card for the 3080ti or 3090

fleet canopy Sep 21, 2020, 1:34 PM

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eh

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Paying for a GPU that shits out the 2080 Ti problem, very horrible price to performance ratio

brisk badger Sep 21, 2020, 1:35 PM

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i know someone for a company I do some stuff and they really need 2x 3090 for their production environment. I said to them you very likely have to wait a longer time than you want

jade ermine Sep 21, 2020, 1:35 PM

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Alot of people will see AMD's answer and probably nvidias answer to AMD's card before they even get their 3080

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zotac 3080 had over 20k orders in amazon

fleet canopy Sep 21, 2020, 1:36 PM

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lole

brisk badger Sep 21, 2020, 1:36 PM

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we soon have more GPU's than people in this world!

tardy jackal Sep 21, 2020, 1:36 PM

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jade ermine Sep 21, 2020, 1:36 PM

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also some stores here report availability for january

brisk badger Sep 21, 2020, 1:37 PM

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i also wonder if nvidia just has issues with manufacturing

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but I am generally worried that a trend like this will continue and getting more and more extreme

jade ermine Sep 21, 2020, 1:38 PM

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Takes some time for them to saturate the market

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it is what it is

fleet canopy Sep 21, 2020, 1:39 PM

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Hopefully it won't affect the prices mainly

jade ermine Sep 21, 2020, 1:39 PM

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ayymd cards and novideo 3070's should help out alot

restive garnet Sep 21, 2020, 1:40 PM

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Over here, we are apparently expecting to get new stock of 3080s about once a month

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Still not enough to keep up with demand

jade ermine Sep 21, 2020, 1:41 PM

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Yea its brutal

restive garnet Sep 21, 2020, 1:41 PM

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But also disproprtionately higher than other countries

jade ermine Sep 21, 2020, 1:41 PM

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My card should be sent out after the store i ordered from gets their next batch

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who knows how long that takes

restive garnet Sep 21, 2020, 1:41 PM

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Like, we arent sold out 3 months in advance

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 1:51 PM

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I just really want one because I have an empty PC atm and I'm moving in with my gf next week so I really need something to do so I don't get bored of her. My relationship depends on this card

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Also, working from home so need a decent computer and shiz

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I would buy a 2080ti in the meantime, but they still seem to be holding their price fairly well

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Also unsure what's going on with AMD and Zen 3, so I'm trying to decide on which motherboard to go with

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First world problems are getting serious

fleet canopy Sep 21, 2020, 1:55 PM

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Zen 3 is coming on the Ryzen 5000 lineup so we're not getting it too early

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 1:55 PM

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We're not getting what too early?

fleet canopy Sep 21, 2020, 1:56 PM

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Zen 3

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It's not going to come until Ryzen 5000 pretty much

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Zen 3 is pretty much focused on gaming though so you could have that as an upgrade path later on

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 1:57 PM

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Isn't that in just a few weeks though?

fleet canopy Sep 21, 2020, 1:58 PM

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That's not coming for Ryzen 4000 apparently

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 1:58 PM

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Oh really?

fleet canopy Sep 21, 2020, 1:58 PM

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Yeah, that's what was said apparently

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AMD confirmed it themselves too

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 1:58 PM

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I might just go with the i7 10700k then

fleet canopy Sep 21, 2020, 1:58 PM

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But as always, it should do better gaming performance tbh

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 1:59 PM

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Tbh, I'm pretty sure any top end AMD cpu and top end Intel cpu will perform fairly similarly

fleet canopy Sep 21, 2020, 1:59 PM

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Ehh, maybe?

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 2:00 PM

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Once overclocked

fleet canopy Sep 21, 2020, 2:00 PM

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They're going to stay on Zen 2 this time maybe

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And OC on Ryzen isn't really needed ig

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Only like a 7% difference which isn't too bad

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 2:01 PM

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Yeah, I suppose it all comes down to which resolution you're playing at

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I'm an 8k gamer, so cpu doesn't matter as much

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Aren't Intel releasing new CPUs fairly soon anyway?

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I swear, you buy a piece of tech and there's a better piece the day after lmao

fleet canopy Sep 21, 2020, 2:05 PM

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idk

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They've announce crappy laptop named CPUs

vapid crypt Sep 21, 2020, 2:05 PM

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I think Zen 3 will take the gaming crown for once

fleet canopy Sep 21, 2020, 2:06 PM

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^

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Zen 3 is supposed to focus a lot on gaming

vapid crypt Sep 21, 2020, 2:06 PM

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They're addressing the weaknesses of the architecture basically

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Which is the split CCXs and cache

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 2:06 PM

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So we're not gonna see Zen 3 for a long time?

vapid crypt Sep 21, 2020, 2:07 PM

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No, its their next release

fleet canopy Sep 21, 2020, 2:07 PM

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I thought it was only coming Ryzen 5000?

vapid crypt Sep 21, 2020, 2:07 PM

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They've been working on this for longer than a few weeks phaWesker

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 2:07 PM

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I hear they've been working on it for 3 weeks

vapid crypt Sep 21, 2020, 2:07 PM

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Yeah it is Ryzen 5000, that's the next release

fleet canopy Sep 21, 2020, 2:07 PM

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I guess they knew how to improve the small bits of the bad gaming side of their architecture which improved gaming by some amount while focusing mainly on the workstation side of things maybe

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Well yeah

vapid crypt Sep 21, 2020, 2:07 PM

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I told you they're skipping 4000 for desktop

fleet canopy Sep 21, 2020, 2:08 PM

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Ah they were?

vapid crypt Sep 21, 2020, 2:08 PM

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Except for the APUs they released

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 2:08 PM

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So they do plan to announce it in a few weeks?

fleet canopy Sep 21, 2020, 2:08 PM

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It did seem that it was only a laptop release

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Which isn't too bad tbf

vapid crypt Sep 21, 2020, 2:08 PM

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Yeah October 8th

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 2:08 PM

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@fleet canopy How dare you lie to me. My father will hear of this

vapid crypt Sep 21, 2020, 2:08 PM

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They're doing that for naming parity

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So that the laptop/APUs aren't a generation behind in architecture

fleet canopy Sep 21, 2020, 2:08 PM

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Huh, that's funny

vapid crypt Sep 21, 2020, 2:08 PM

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In terms of naming

fleet canopy Sep 21, 2020, 2:09 PM

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Isn't too bad of an idea

vapid crypt Sep 21, 2020, 2:09 PM

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Like for example, the 3400G is Zen+ where as the rest of the lineup is Zen 2

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That won't be the case anymore, so the names will be consistent

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 2:09 PM

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These tech companies just try to outdo each other through higher numbers

vapid crypt Sep 21, 2020, 2:09 PM

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Well certainly there's an aspect of marketing to it

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 2:09 PM

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Check out our new Intel i9 99999XYZ

vapid crypt Sep 21, 2020, 2:10 PM

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Like early leaks of RDNA suggested that the lineup was going to be 3000 phaWesker

fleet canopy Sep 21, 2020, 2:10 PM

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No you mean

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Intel i9 1093423G43Hsz2

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Something like that

vapid crypt Sep 21, 2020, 2:10 PM

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Intel i7 1065G7

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Not to be confused with the Intel i7 1060G7

fleet canopy Sep 21, 2020, 2:10 PM

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Fuck the entire 10/11th gen lineup for that naming

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 2:11 PM

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Yeah lmao. I'm sure there's some psychological reasoning for the numbering. Big number = big power

merry bay Sep 21, 2020, 2:11 PM

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when i say such names my brain defaults to monitors

fleet canopy Sep 21, 2020, 2:11 PM

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Stupid intel ceo

vapid crypt Sep 21, 2020, 2:11 PM

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Intel's making monitors

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PirateSimon

fleet canopy Sep 21, 2020, 2:11 PM

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what was he thinking in his mind when he was fumbling with trying to say the name of one of the names??

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 2:11 PM

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Tbh I almost fell into it by assuming the i9 is automatically better than the i7 or i5 just because it's more expensive and is a bigger number

fleet canopy Sep 21, 2020, 2:11 PM

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lol

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I mean you're not wrong

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It is better by some amount

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 2:12 PM

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Well, it is technically, but a minute amount for the massive pricing

vapid crypt Sep 21, 2020, 2:12 PM

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Turns out they just shafted the i7s to upsell the i9s

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 2:12 PM

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Unless it's for rendering purposes

fleet canopy Sep 21, 2020, 2:12 PM

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But mainly if the i7 has 8 cores and the i9 has 8 cores, there's really no difference

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Because it's quite literally only the boost clocks that's important

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For gaming

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 2:12 PM

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I can't wait for the i20

fleet canopy Sep 21, 2020, 2:13 PM

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Of course, there might be cache difference, etc.

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But there's really no difference at all

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 2:13 PM

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I wouldn't be surprised if they do a Samsung and just skip to a 20 series

vapid crypt Sep 21, 2020, 2:14 PM

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If Nvidia did it, why not

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Maybe they'll figure out 3d stacking by then PirateSimon

merry bay Sep 21, 2020, 2:15 PM

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incrementing something so familiar as the i3/i5/i7/i9 scheme seems like a dumb move because it settled in most people's minds already

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even though i3 and i5 differences are blurry nowadays, people still perceive it as a big leap

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except for top end i5's of course

vapid crypt Sep 21, 2020, 2:16 PM

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As long as they keep locking the i3s

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 2:17 PM

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i3s still exist?

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I didn't even know

vapid crypt Sep 21, 2020, 2:18 PM

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Yeah, well its not the level of performance an enthusiast would be interested in phaWesker

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I think its funny that they put i3s on X299

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 2:18 PM

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Ah, so the sort of chips that come in prebuilds?

vapid crypt Sep 21, 2020, 2:18 PM

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I'm like what the fuck is even the point?

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No they sell the chips for Diy

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 2:18 PM

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Their marketing is pretty clever to be honest

vapid crypt Sep 21, 2020, 2:19 PM

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They're just not you know targeted for the enthusiast

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 2:19 PM

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Yeah, I guess that's why I've not seen any

vapid crypt Sep 21, 2020, 2:19 PM

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At best they're low range budget option

merry bay Sep 21, 2020, 2:19 PM

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"in-case you want to invest in a board, and upgrade the CPU later" I guess LULW

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 2:19 PM

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I would have gone with an i9 if the price wasn't double that of an i7 for the 10th generation

vapid crypt Sep 21, 2020, 2:20 PM

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Double? Wow the prices are fucked up then

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Cause I'm pretty sure the gap at MSRP is far smaller

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 2:20 PM

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The price difference between the i5 and the i7 seems pretty sensible, then they just fling it right up for the i9

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Yeah, everywhere I look in the UK, that's the pricing

vapid crypt Sep 21, 2020, 2:20 PM

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Yeah what its like, $290 - $409 i5 to i7

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Then the i9 is around $540 isn't it?

merry bay Sep 21, 2020, 2:21 PM

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10gen chips might be limited availability with the price cranked up. But yeah high end tends to ramp up quick

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 2:21 PM

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The i5 10600k can be overclocked to be better than the i9 10900k when it comes to gaming

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Considering games don't even use all the extra cores

vapid crypt Sep 21, 2020, 2:22 PM

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Yeah it can be tuned to be just as good, also not to mention Intel's ring bus architecture stops scaling past 8 cores

#

Compare the i7 to the i9, the i9 has inferior memory latency. Not massive, but it starts showing its weakness there.

brisk badger Sep 21, 2020, 2:23 PM

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a majority of games to this day are singelthreaded.
even if the games uses multiple cores, the "world thread" or the "logic thread" is very often singlethreaded 😦

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 2:23 PM

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Yeah, the i5 and i7 seem to be the best options after seeing them all compared

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Crazy how even the 3080 can't do 60fps at 4k in MSFS

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That game is a killer

vapid crypt Sep 21, 2020, 2:24 PM

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Its CPU bound pretty much

brisk badger Sep 21, 2020, 2:25 PM

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pc-enthusiast think a game is 100% optimized and the low FPS is a result of the gpu / hardware

vapid crypt Sep 21, 2020, 2:25 PM

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Its the Crysis of our generation

brisk badger Sep 21, 2020, 2:25 PM

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maybe flight simulator is jut not as optimized as it should be

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 2:25 PM

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Ah okay

#

Yeah, the game definitely needs some optimizing

brisk badger Sep 21, 2020, 2:26 PM

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it still is a awkard result 😂

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 2:26 PM

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Yeah, looks like we're gonna need a 3090 to play MSFS lads

merry bay Sep 21, 2020, 2:26 PM

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It's suffering from a really bad case of what Wooza just mentioned. It pins a single core, but also kinda uses other threads too.

vapid crypt Sep 21, 2020, 2:26 PM

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Just take that 3080 result, and add 15%

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There's the 3090 performance phaWesker

brisk badger Sep 21, 2020, 2:26 PM

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quick maths with demonio. I love it

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 2:26 PM

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Tbh I'd rather play 1440p and get more frames

vapid crypt Sep 21, 2020, 2:27 PM

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You'll get 60fps, I guess that's good

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 2:27 PM

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I cannot play a games unless it's hitting a steady 500 frames per second

vapid crypt Sep 21, 2020, 2:27 PM

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I mean a 3090 at 4k

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 2:27 PM

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Is the difference between 1440p and 4k really that noticable?

brisk badger Sep 21, 2020, 2:27 PM

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the 3090 is a consumer card right? (normal drivers etc.)

vapid crypt Sep 21, 2020, 2:28 PM

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Yeah

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 2:28 PM

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It's a high end consumer card, yeah

fleet canopy Sep 21, 2020, 2:28 PM

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1440p and 4K difference is noticeable if you read a lot

vapid crypt Sep 21, 2020, 2:28 PM

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Um they're trying to market it as a Titan, but you know gamers with more money than sense would buy one

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 2:28 PM

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Oh yeah, the resolution difference is night and day when doing regular PC stuff

vapid crypt Sep 21, 2020, 2:28 PM

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Also the fact they did that 8k demonstration

fleet canopy Sep 21, 2020, 2:28 PM

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lol 8K

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 2:28 PM

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Who the hell even games in 8k

fleet canopy Sep 21, 2020, 2:29 PM

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8k for losers

vapid crypt Sep 21, 2020, 2:29 PM

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Which btw, it was 1440p upsampled to 8k using DLSS

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So yeah

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 2:29 PM

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That's pretty embarrassing

vapid crypt Sep 21, 2020, 2:29 PM

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Not so impressive when you know that phaWesker

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 2:29 PM

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Surely that's false advertising

vapid crypt Sep 21, 2020, 2:29 PM

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I think they mention it there

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 2:29 PM

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I didn't notice lol

vapid crypt Sep 21, 2020, 2:29 PM

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That's how they get you, the tiny print or some kind of disclaimer

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 2:30 PM

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They probably hope that most people don't know the difference

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They just hear "8K gaming" then lose their shit

merry bay Sep 21, 2020, 2:30 PM

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It's easy to miss even if you pay attention

vapid crypt Sep 21, 2020, 2:31 PM

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I can just imagine someone getting a 3090, pairing it with an 8k display

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 2:31 PM

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I've never even seen an 8k display on the market

vapid crypt Sep 21, 2020, 2:31 PM

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Then trying to run a game at native, getting sub 40FPS wondering what's going on

merry bay Sep 21, 2020, 2:31 PM

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but since 4K was barely playable last gen, you should raise some suspicious eyebrows hearing there's a sudden leap through an entire tier.

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 2:31 PM

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Imagine trying to push for 8k gaming when 4k isn't even fully integrated yet

vapid crypt Sep 21, 2020, 2:32 PM

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They're trying to push DLSS pretty much, but if there isn't widespread support yet why should I care?

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 2:32 PM

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I remember buying my 980ti as it was being advertised as the first card to allow 4k gaming

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4k gaming at 30fps lol

vapid crypt Sep 21, 2020, 2:32 PM

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Like we're talking about precious dev time

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Just to implement their AI upscaling bullshit

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 2:33 PM

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We don't want all this bullshit. We just want simple cards that let us do our regular shit

vapid crypt Sep 21, 2020, 2:33 PM

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They've been marketing 4k since Kepler with the Titan and 780Ti

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That and the gen after that was the last time AMD was kind of competitive, with the 290X and FuryX

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 2:34 PM

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I still am not that interested in raytracing. I definitely want to see it, but I'm not that excited to see realtime reflections in puddles.

merry bay Sep 21, 2020, 2:34 PM

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If the gains from DLSS weren't so impressive, I'd scoff with you. But it is impressive what it can achieve. Enabling actually smooth(in theory) 4K gaming finally.

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or at least something that looks very close to native 4K

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 2:35 PM

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Have any of you gamed in 4k?

fleet canopy Sep 21, 2020, 2:35 PM

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Maybe stop listening to NoVideo and stop trying to aim for 4K gaming PirateSimon

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4K gaming on portal is cool

#

Portal 2 is damn easy to run anyways lol

merry bay Sep 21, 2020, 2:36 PM

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only with DSR 4x on a 1080p monitor. It's outstanding anti-aliasing for a massive fps hit

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 2:36 PM

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I still think 1440p with anti-aliasing looks perfectly fine

vapid crypt Sep 21, 2020, 2:36 PM

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Don't have the hardware for it, unless I tried to play something old

fleet canopy Sep 21, 2020, 2:36 PM

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I mean

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 2:36 PM

#

I like the smoothness that anti-aliasing gives to everything

vapid crypt Sep 21, 2020, 2:36 PM

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Even then it would probably be like 30fps phaWesker

fleet canopy Sep 21, 2020, 2:36 PM

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I guess DLSS 2.0 will replace anti-aliasing one day

#

AA imo is pretty ass

#

Too much, and it's blurry as fuck

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 2:36 PM

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Depends what kind of AA

fleet canopy Sep 21, 2020, 2:37 PM

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Too little, it's got the staircase effect everywhere, even on 1440p for me

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 2:37 PM

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Some of them look worse that without AA at all

vapid crypt Sep 21, 2020, 2:37 PM

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Actually I think I tried running Yakuza 0 at 4k and it was okay, but it didn't look any better than at 1440p

fleet canopy Sep 21, 2020, 2:37 PM

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like MW 👀

merry bay Sep 21, 2020, 2:37 PM

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shrubbery, tightly packed fences, curvy glass and shadows look sooo good MurkGasm

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you can actually see through clearly on every tiny gap

fleet canopy Sep 21, 2020, 2:37 PM

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Raytracing 4K would look so amazing

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 2:38 PM

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Yeah, I saw some videos of people blind testing between 1440p and 4k. They struggled to see much difference

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Tbh I think we should go back to 420p gaming

merry bay Sep 21, 2020, 2:38 PM

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Most textures aren't high res, so barely any difference

fleet canopy Sep 21, 2020, 2:38 PM

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Like, full on RTX with DLSS2.0 somehow doing 4K 60FPS

vapid crypt Sep 21, 2020, 2:38 PM

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420p, the resolution for potheads PirateSimon

merry bay Sep 21, 2020, 2:38 PM

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it really is just anti-aliasing for the most part(higher resolution)

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 2:39 PM

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Why can't we just prerender all our games, then we wouldn't need these expensive PCs

vapid crypt Sep 21, 2020, 2:40 PM

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That's what Nvidia is kind of doing with Geforce now

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But they've been getting pushback from developers

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 2:40 PM

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Imagine prerendering every possible frame

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Oh yeah, don't the new cards come with some subscription to Geforce now?

vapid crypt Sep 21, 2020, 2:40 PM

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Technically that's game streaming, so not as good as one would want

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But you could play games on a shitheap of a computer

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 2:41 PM

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Yeah, pretty good if you're poor

merry bay Sep 21, 2020, 2:41 PM

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students with craptops love it

fleet canopy Sep 21, 2020, 2:41 PM

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P-prerender frames????:

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That sounds like uhh

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 2:41 PM

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A lot of processing time

fleet canopy Sep 21, 2020, 2:41 PM

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tbh that sounds like a fat fucking delay to real-time

merry bay Sep 21, 2020, 2:42 PM

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sounds like less delay that it would take for a dualcore laptop to render it Thonk

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people with decent machines aren't the target tbh

brisk badger Sep 21, 2020, 2:43 PM

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you can only prerender something if you know in advance what is going to happen. That's almost impossible in a video where every key stroke creates a new "scenario"

fleet canopy Sep 21, 2020, 2:43 PM

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prerendering frames should cause a delay to real-time, no?

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Making it feel unresponsive until more time has passed

brisk badger Sep 21, 2020, 2:44 PM

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nvidia with their offer is just rendering the application and you basically stream it as demonio says

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 2:44 PM

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The only way that gaming on a laptop should be done tbh

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I made the mistake of buying a gaming laptop

brisk badger Sep 21, 2020, 2:45 PM

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there is a delay yes, but a company like nvidia can reduce that delay to something like 10ms assuming you are not living in a remote place

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 2:45 PM

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I live in the Amazon Rain forest so it might be a problem

brisk badger Sep 21, 2020, 2:45 PM

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I play games on my chinese tablet and notebook from 2012. I let my pc render the stuff and play it on any device. Not great for competitive shooters but for the rest it's fine

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I actually don't play games on those. I just used it as proof of concept. don't have the time to play on a notebook 😦

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 2:46 PM

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My internet speed is that roughly of pigeon post

brisk badger Sep 21, 2020, 2:46 PM

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steam includes such a home streaming service

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well if it's in your own network you can still play games in your bed with a cool notebook and let the pc do it's thing

merry bay Sep 21, 2020, 2:47 PM

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do you need 2 separate steam accounts? I haven't explored that yet

brisk badger Sep 21, 2020, 2:47 PM

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nope you have to be logged in to the same account on both devices

merry bay Sep 21, 2020, 2:47 PM

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i have buddied up for local multiplayer only games via the steam remote play function though

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 2:48 PM

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Yeah, I always wondered if it would be possible to stream my PC to my phone so I can play games while I poop

brisk badger Sep 21, 2020, 2:48 PM

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then you need to enable "home streaming" on the pc you want to be the "server", that does the calculation

merry bay Sep 21, 2020, 2:48 PM

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previously used parsec for the same thing, now it's a little simpler.

brisk badger Sep 21, 2020, 2:48 PM

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it is monkey. And the best is, you can jsut connect your phone, do your business, and disconnect and continue playing on the pc

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basically with steam you start the game normally as you would play on the pc

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and other devices you connect from are just streaming it with input

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 2:49 PM

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That's pretty cool

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Can I do it from a different location?

merry bay Sep 21, 2020, 2:49 PM

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I actually remote into my PC all the time. Sometimes just so I can walk around with my wired headphones to make food/bio break and not miss anything

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 2:49 PM

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As in stream my PC from home to another city?

merry bay Sep 21, 2020, 2:49 PM

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Don't see why not, as long as network is stable on both ends

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 2:50 PM

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I need to try that out

merry bay Sep 21, 2020, 2:50 PM

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you do get distance latency

brisk badger Sep 21, 2020, 2:50 PM

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there is also dedicated solution that work not only with steam-only games. E.g: https://moonlight-stream.org

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but i never tried it. requires an nvidia card 😢

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steam does not allow you stream outside your network. It's still possible but requires some knowledge in networking and it gets a bit time consuming

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 2:51 PM

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Hmm, I guess I'll stick to remote gaming on my Switch

merry bay Sep 21, 2020, 2:52 PM

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phone to PC remote access with the lowest latency so far was either Parsec or Chrome Remote Desktop
I have Chrome open all day anyway, so it's simpler to use the latter for me.

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could in theory connect a controller to my phone with a USB OTG cable. Not sure if inputs would get recognized when remoting into the PC

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 2:53 PM

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Do you guys think buying a 2080ti now is a bad idea?

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Yeah, the input seems like it'd be the hardest thing to figure out

merry bay Sep 21, 2020, 2:54 PM

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mouse doesn't work. You basically move around a pointer that functions as a finger.

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 2:54 PM

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I see 2080ti card selling for around £600. I'm not sure if to buy one of them until I can get a 3080, then sell the 2080ti for a slight loss

fleet canopy Sep 21, 2020, 2:54 PM

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Buying a 2080 Ti now isn't a bad idea if you get it for 400-500$ USD

merry bay Sep 21, 2020, 2:54 PM

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for 600 pounds I wouldn't say it's worth it

fleet canopy Sep 21, 2020, 2:54 PM

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If it's close to or less than the 3070 MSRP, go ahead

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The 3070 is just a cutdown 2080 ti

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 2:55 PM

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I don't seem to see any less that £600 unfortunately

merry bay Sep 21, 2020, 2:56 PM

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Once the 3070 reviews start rolling in, can expect another dip in price probably.

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RDNA2 likely to shuffle things around too

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and both are a little over a month away

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 2:57 PM

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I imagine that the only reason 2080tis are still selling for the same price as the 3080s is the fact that the 3080s are still so hard to get

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I wonder at what point the 3080 cards will be readily available

merry bay Sep 21, 2020, 2:58 PM

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Sounds unlikely for this year

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too many feeling itchy from holding out from 2000 series

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doesn't help that there's no competitors as of today

fleet canopy Sep 21, 2020, 3:03 PM

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It's pretty much a 3070 with capabilities of handling 4K better

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So it'd be fair making it 50-100$ more than 3070

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 3:05 PM

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Guess I'll stick my 980ti into my new build for a bit then lol

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Unless I can get a 2080ti at a really cheap price

meager umbra Sep 21, 2020, 4:16 PM

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I wouldn’t hold out for a 3090 either. The difference in performance is around 5% or 2-3 fps @ 4k vs the 3080.

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The 2080ti is still no chump especially at 1440

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 4:42 PM

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I plan to do ultrawide 1440p

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I'm gonna try to build a script to auto buy a 3080 once stock comes back. If it doesn't work this week then I'll just get a 2080ti

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It is my human right to own a 3080 😩

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How dare they do this to us

vapid crypt Sep 21, 2020, 4:44 PM

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Did the ones you order not ship?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16iPFRPjDcg

fleet canopy Sep 21, 2020, 4:58 PM

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I mean, if you want to keep the same FPS average on 1440p like on 1080p with a 2080 Ti, the 3080 does that

abstract kite Sep 21, 2020, 5:44 PM

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Can anyone give me a video or guide on how to transfer an OS to another storage device>

fleet canopy Sep 21, 2020, 6:00 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxNyDBSBNxg - Linus teaches you how in 2012

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKIRvH7jwx8 - First result video

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The linus one is very outdated

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I think

abstract kite Sep 21, 2020, 6:07 PM

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That was what i was having problems with when i was searching

fleet canopy Sep 21, 2020, 6:08 PM

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You mean trying to find how to do it or?

abstract kite Sep 21, 2020, 6:09 PM

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Yeah

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I have no clue how to do it

brisk badger Sep 21, 2020, 6:09 PM

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you need to clone the drive or only the os itself?

abstract kite Sep 21, 2020, 6:09 PM

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Well move the contents including the OS to a different drive

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I am going to replace my 1TB HDD with a 1TB SSD

brisk badger Sep 21, 2020, 6:10 PM

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from experience i can tell you this: there is a crapload of programs that can do it for you but 95% of them have this cloning feature behind a paywall. this is probably the most annoying part when trying to do this

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unless you want to use the commandline ofc which I guess you don't want

abstract kite Sep 21, 2020, 6:11 PM

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How much?

fleet canopy Sep 21, 2020, 6:11 PM

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You can do it literally free

brisk badger Sep 21, 2020, 6:11 PM

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idk. but there is free ones. I used for windows "macrium reflect" which offers it for free

abstract kite Sep 21, 2020, 6:11 PM

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But how smooth?

brisk badger Sep 21, 2020, 6:11 PM

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they all use the same technique, or mostly

abstract kite Sep 21, 2020, 6:12 PM

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Chances of fucking it up?

brisk badger Sep 21, 2020, 6:12 PM

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https://www.macrium.com/cloning-a-disk-using-macrium-reflect-7

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it fulfills your requirments; it has a video \o/

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there is also other programs. you have to google them yourself and many pretend they are free but this feature will cost you

abstract kite Sep 21, 2020, 6:18 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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Fuck me

fleet canopy Sep 21, 2020, 6:18 PM

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That's kinda lewd

abstract kite Sep 21, 2020, 6:19 PM

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$75

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Alight Muppy, what is your way?

fleet canopy Sep 21, 2020, 6:21 PM

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They have a 30 day trial it looks like

abstract kite Sep 21, 2020, 6:27 PM

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Tru

fleet canopy Sep 21, 2020, 6:28 PM

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You're only really needing to switch OS to another drive so it's not like you're going to need to pay

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 7:12 PM

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@vapid crypt I cancelled them because I decided I want the FE instead

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 7:30 PM

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Plus they were charging me £800

fiery panther Sep 21, 2020, 7:36 PM

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For something worth how much?

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 8:10 PM

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£670

fiery panther Sep 21, 2020, 8:11 PM

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Oof

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 8:12 PM

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Apparently it's to account for the potential decrease in value of the pound sterling lmao

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They used that reason to be able to gouge the price up legally

fiery panther Sep 21, 2020, 8:13 PM

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F

nimble anvil Sep 21, 2020, 8:14 PM

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That's also for a preorder in a massive que that they don't give you the que number for

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Mega oof

restive garnet Sep 21, 2020, 11:12 PM

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Macrium reflect is my pick as well, except they definitely have a free version that does what you want, ive been using it for a few years now

abstract kite Sep 22, 2020, 12:08 AM

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So I can understand why you guys like SSD's

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My god the power

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I restarted my computer and it took less then a minute

fleet canopy Sep 22, 2020, 12:09 AM

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Damn you've never had an SSD in forever?

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smh

abstract kite Sep 22, 2020, 12:09 AM

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Never had a SSD

fleet canopy Sep 22, 2020, 12:10 AM

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How could you refuse the holy power of an SSD for this long???

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Anyways have fun with not waiting years for the OS to boot up 500 programs at startup

vapid crypt Sep 22, 2020, 12:27 AM

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Its like 15 - 20 seconds with an NVME PirateSimon

bold ore Sep 22, 2020, 12:53 AM

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LFG

lilac geyser Sep 22, 2020, 3:51 AM

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Galerus: gparted is what you are looking for

lilac geyser Sep 22, 2020, 4:08 AM

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warning though using a partition editor carries a certain amount of risk, though mainly if resizing an existing partition

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still its a good idea to have a backup first

abstract kite Sep 22, 2020, 4:15 AM

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You are a bit late @lilac geyser

brisk badger Sep 22, 2020, 6:21 AM

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I am not sure if gparted can even clone disks (I would prefer comandline tools everyday)

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but since you can easily wipe all your data with gparted I don't think it would be galerus' first choice

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eh I was confusing gparted with diskpart ( I just woke up)

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gparted looks also to be the one of the few free application. I hate it when there is a dozens programs doing the same thing but most of them pretend it's free and then you install and want to do whatever you want and before you click "go" or "run" a window pops up that says you need to buy the product and ofc only you get this nice 30% sale price 😤

eternal cairn Sep 22, 2020, 6:34 AM

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Ooh, those are lame!

late sorrel Sep 22, 2020, 6:43 AM

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eh just use powershell

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much easier

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just be careful and double check what you have selected

lilac geyser Sep 22, 2020, 8:30 AM

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Motherboard with 20 USB ports: https://portwell.com/products/detail.php?CUSTCHAR1=PEB-9783G2AR

fiery panther Sep 22, 2020, 8:51 AM

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20?!

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Damn

nimble anvil Sep 22, 2020, 9:33 AM

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I need 21

brisk badger Sep 22, 2020, 9:37 AM

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buy 10 male-to-male usb cable. Plug them all in the mainboard. Observe the chipset. Have something nearby to kill the fire 😋

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I struggle to find a usecase for this board. It only has 2 sata and 1 m2 port. That's like nothing. What purpose does this board serve?

nimble anvil Sep 22, 2020, 9:39 AM

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Male to male? I don't go that way, bro

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Nothing wrong with that, just not my thing

brisk badger Sep 22, 2020, 9:41 AM

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well you call the ends of cables male or female 😋

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a dream for everyone with a usb 3.0 fetish

nimble anvil Sep 22, 2020, 9:48 AM

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Oh okay, I thought you meant you wanted something else

sick reef Sep 22, 2020, 11:57 AM

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Dunno why the chipset wouldn't just trigger the fuses if you shorted it. Hmm And if you're not shorting it, it's more likely to shut off, or do nothing.

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It would send a check on the data-line, find itself connected to something that doesn't pull info, and not run data.

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But yeah, 20 USB ports seems like a very specific use-case. Assuming it's actually constructed proper, you could probably pull good amperage from them, but that's all I can think of. You'd have a super-phonecharger.

brisk badger Sep 22, 2020, 11:59 AM

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it's more of a joke. running 6-8 sata ports probably is way more intense than USB for the chipset and today we have quite some mainboards that have all their sata ports being used

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but it surely is about the limit of what a chipset can handle (20 usb 3 ports) when all of them are fully utilized

sick reef Sep 22, 2020, 12:00 PM

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Well, yeah. But it's also internally limited to how much bandwith and lanes it is allowed.

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If you allowed USB full PCIe 3.0 lanes you could likely connect a few hundreds, bandwith-wise.

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I do realise, you could actually run a network of smaller modules that you control through the main motherboard, and have more adaptability than is allowed through PCIe with it.

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Assuming they are not module that would need constant updating or polling, because I'm unsure how the mainboard would be able to handle such traffic.

brisk badger Sep 22, 2020, 12:10 PM

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i am not sure if I read it wrong but AFAIK plain USB ports on your back do not use any PCI lanes on your mobo, it's just a direct connection, sometimes the paths are even visible on the mobo

sick reef Sep 22, 2020, 12:10 PM

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Direct connection where?

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What I know of my own USB, they're run with I/O and SATA through PCH-partition of the MB.

brisk badger Sep 22, 2020, 12:11 PM

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windows can only handle 255 usb devices AFAIK. at least it used to

sick reef Sep 22, 2020, 12:11 PM

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That, if I remember correctly, has 4-8 dedicated CPU lanes something. The M.2 can run on PCH, or CPU lanes, depending on setting in Mobo.

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This is strictly speaking my own MB

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Because I assume you can't run a USB into straight into a HDD without a signal conversion/interpretation, but maybe that's where I'm wrong.

brisk badger Sep 22, 2020, 12:13 PM

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usb and sata surely share the same "connection". you maybe have 4-8 lanes PCIE from chipset to cpu but your usb don't care for that. The data goes to the chipset /PCH and then usually it goes to a sata port or another usb port

sick reef Sep 22, 2020, 12:16 PM

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They share the same PCH lanes, to some extent perhaps the data travels along those lanes, and how many and where I don't know, but I do know that the bandwidth limitation in PCH is across all devices accumulatively in PCH.

brisk badger Sep 22, 2020, 12:17 PM

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that is probably true

sick reef Sep 22, 2020, 12:17 PM

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Which I learned swiftly when I put a PCIe SSD on the PCH through a PCIe connector and it choked I/O, effectively killing the computer.

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But since the drive had OS, it wasn't until it initiated the OS that it killed everything else.

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Think it's a safety feature of Windows, or motherboards, that if it doesn't detect an input on I/O during startup, or after a specific time, it shuts down automatically.

vapid crypt Sep 22, 2020, 7:31 PM

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Navi 23 info, the lowest end die https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIehCmr4erY

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Also something about Metal Gear Solid on Ps5? I haven't gotten there yet PirateSimon

eternal cairn Sep 22, 2020, 7:34 PM

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I thought Kojima wasn't a part of that franchise anymore.

vapid crypt Sep 22, 2020, 7:35 PM

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Does the video mention that, spoilers phaSip

eternal cairn Sep 22, 2020, 7:35 PM

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That's old news.

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Ever since Konami's last flop on Metal Gear Solid, the zombie survival one that's literally a rehash of Phantom Pain.

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That was after Kojima ~~left~~ was fired.

vapid crypt Sep 22, 2020, 7:36 PM

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Metal Gear Survive phaRIP

eternal cairn Sep 22, 2020, 7:37 PM

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Yeah, that trash game.

vapid crypt Sep 22, 2020, 7:37 PM

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So the video talks about a remake of MGS1, and ports of up to MGS4 coming to pc

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As well as PS5

eternal cairn Sep 22, 2020, 7:38 PM

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Oh, it makes sense that they're remastering the old games just to milk every last cent out of the franchise.

vapid crypt Sep 22, 2020, 7:38 PM

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Might be related to that Shadow Moses project that Konami tore down

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Was a fan remake of MGS1 on Unreal 4

eternal cairn Sep 22, 2020, 7:44 PM

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I love how Phantom Pain gets a 10/10 and Survive gets a 1/10.

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It's poetic justice for firing the best producer they had for the game.

vapid crypt Sep 22, 2020, 7:44 PM

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Phantom Pain deserves a 6 though PirateSimon

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They already burned Kojima halfway through production, that much is obvious with the second half of the game

eternal cairn Sep 22, 2020, 7:45 PM

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No, Survive isn't the 2nd half of the game.

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Survive is its own game.

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Non-canonical.

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(I hope.)

vapid crypt Sep 22, 2020, 7:46 PM

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Well I was referring to Phantom Pain though

eternal cairn Sep 22, 2020, 7:47 PM

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Oh, the 2nd half of Phantom Pain.

vapid crypt Sep 22, 2020, 7:47 PM

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Yes

eternal cairn Sep 22, 2020, 7:47 PM

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Yeah, they wanted to cut down on costs, and Konami thought Kojima's ideas were "too expensive".

vapid crypt Sep 22, 2020, 7:49 PM

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I finished Death Stranding a little while ago, and you know what love it or hate it; even if Kojima isn't the best at wrapping up stories that game actually had a far more fulfilling story than what Phantom Pain did

eternal cairn Sep 22, 2020, 7:50 PM

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That game makes me question Kojima's browsing history.

vapid crypt Sep 22, 2020, 7:50 PM

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I'm still curious how much input Guillermo Del Toro had

eternal cairn Sep 22, 2020, 7:51 PM

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I mean, wasn't he in the game?

vapid crypt Sep 22, 2020, 7:51 PM

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He was, but I'm pretty sure he was a co-writer/director as well. To what extent I'm not sure

eternal cairn Sep 22, 2020, 7:52 PM

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Well, considering Kojima was most likely head of the game, it'd be more plausible to assume that Kojima had more control, but I'm not entirely certain of Guillermo's career and what kinds of films he helped make.

vapid crypt Sep 22, 2020, 7:52 PM

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I'm not fully familiar with Guillermo either, I've seen Blade 2 and Hellboy. That's about it phaWesker

eternal cairn Sep 22, 2020, 7:55 PM

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I hope Microsoft actually knows what they're doing when they bought Bethesda for $7 billion.

vapid crypt Sep 22, 2020, 7:55 PM

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They bought the parent company Zenimax technically, but yeah if they're doing that I can see Sony buying Konami or something. phaSip

eternal cairn Sep 22, 2020, 7:56 PM

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Sony buying Konami would be the most hilarious way to push their console's failures.

vapid crypt Sep 22, 2020, 7:56 PM

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What do you mean?

eternal cairn Sep 22, 2020, 7:56 PM

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It's like how Microsoft bought out the Forza Horizon series exclusively for Xbox.

vapid crypt Sep 22, 2020, 7:56 PM

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The only thing that's really of value are the IPs

eternal cairn Sep 22, 2020, 7:57 PM

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I'm saying their IPs are pretty much garbage.

vapid crypt Sep 22, 2020, 7:57 PM

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I suppose now they are yeah, but the legacy isn't

eternal cairn Sep 22, 2020, 7:57 PM

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Yeah, but look what happened to Activi$ion after they solely focused on using Bungie's legacy to make a new franchise. 😆

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They quit about halfway through.

vapid crypt Sep 22, 2020, 7:58 PM

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Well that was dumb and cringe PirateSimon

eternal cairn Sep 22, 2020, 7:58 PM

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The actual Bungie-Activi$ion partnership or what I just said?

vapid crypt Sep 22, 2020, 7:59 PM

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Well yeah the game what was it called?

eternal cairn Sep 22, 2020, 7:59 PM

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Destiny?

vapid crypt Sep 22, 2020, 7:59 PM

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Wait are you confusing Bungie with Blizzard?

eternal cairn Sep 22, 2020, 8:00 PM

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No, Blizzard is Activi$ion's launcher and I think an alias.

vapid crypt Sep 22, 2020, 8:00 PM

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No Blizzard made Overwatch, Warcraft and what not

eternal cairn Sep 22, 2020, 8:00 PM

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Oh, then I guess Activi$ion bought out Blizzard.

vapid crypt Sep 22, 2020, 8:00 PM

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And they were or still are partnered with Activision?

eternal cairn Sep 22, 2020, 8:00 PM

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But they didn't make Destiny.

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They still are, I believe.

vapid crypt Sep 22, 2020, 8:01 PM

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You know what I think I was thinking of that other game from EA

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Where they were trying to make their own type of Destiny/Warframe style game, but abandoned it months after launch

eternal cairn Sep 22, 2020, 8:02 PM

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You mean Anthem?

vapid crypt Sep 22, 2020, 8:02 PM

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Yeah that's the one

eternal cairn Sep 22, 2020, 8:03 PM

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I don't think they abandoned the game. They're releasing some kind of update or 2.0 version.

vapid crypt Sep 22, 2020, 8:03 PM

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They at least neglected it for a while

eternal cairn Sep 22, 2020, 8:05 PM

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They were radio-silent, yes.

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Also, Xbox Series X preorders got taken over by scalpers again.

vapid crypt Sep 22, 2020, 8:06 PM

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Oh this doesn't bode well for Navi ConfusedUlf

eternal cairn Sep 22, 2020, 8:06 PM

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How so?

vapid crypt Sep 22, 2020, 8:06 PM

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Scalpers gonna Scalp

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They'll do it to anything

eternal cairn Sep 22, 2020, 8:07 PM

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Well, there'll soon be a new pastime.

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It's called "scalping the scalpers".

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I don't do it, but I hear other people are.

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I'll just watch the eBay listings instead. 😆

winter cave Sep 22, 2020, 10:06 PM

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is there a way to scale the hud

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some stuff is really hard to read

abstract kite Sep 22, 2020, 10:38 PM

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you cannot scale the HUD

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what do you find hard to read?

jade surge Sep 22, 2020, 11:01 PM

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well I am interested to see how Navi pans out but I think I may wait til next year to see if they release a new chipset for Zen 3

vapid crypt Sep 22, 2020, 11:22 PM

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I'm pretty sure they're releasing a new chipset alongside Zen 3

jade surge Sep 22, 2020, 11:51 PM

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they said that Zen 3 would be supported on AM4 boards with B450, B550 and x570 boards.

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I have heard rumors of an x670 chipset but nothing to replace the AM4 socket

fleet canopy Sep 22, 2020, 11:56 PM

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MSi showed off their 3090 gaming x trio thingy

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Looks like the last generation’s gaming x trio lole

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And I guess that means we’ll see more of the card pretty soon

jade surge Sep 23, 2020, 12:01 AM

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the 3090 is just a Titan Variant. They didnt call it the Titan cause now they are allowing AIB's to make 3090's as well

fleet canopy Sep 23, 2020, 12:02 AM

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Eh, people will still buy it

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It might be seen as a Titan, it could just be a rename

jade surge Sep 23, 2020, 12:02 AM

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I am not trying to take away from the 30xx series cards but i truly am not impressed with the cards. the 3080 is decent enough but I am very interested in seeing what AMD releases

fleet canopy Sep 23, 2020, 12:03 AM

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Same. 30% more performance for 15-25% more power consumption apparently

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Although the price ain’t so bad

jade surge Sep 23, 2020, 12:04 AM

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for sure, plenty of people are going to try and buy it because it is the new flavor of Nvidias. not necessarily the most cost effective to powerful

fleet canopy Sep 23, 2020, 12:04 AM

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Better than the 2080 ti still being 1200$ lmao

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I’m definitely interested in going amd this time, but later on of course. I have a 2070 Super so I’ll have to see how well it’ll do 1440p 144hz when I do obtain that kinda monitor

jade surge Sep 23, 2020, 12:12 AM

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see I find it funny how so many people just up and sold their 2080ti's before the launch and now they are without a GPU thinking they were gonna get a 3080 right out the gate

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I mean if you are not gaming at least 1440p then you are just wasting the 3080

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1080p uses mostly processor power and less GPU

fleet canopy Sep 23, 2020, 12:23 AM

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3090 with a 3200G, 8GB, and a 1080p 60Hz PirateSimon

jade surge Sep 23, 2020, 12:45 AM

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3200G you serious. tell me your joking

fleet canopy Sep 23, 2020, 1:02 AM

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What? You think I was saying my specs? Pfft

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Only losers have that

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I game with the intel Celeron G4930

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I just need a 1440p 144hz

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Poor me though, I kind of neglected it lole

jade surge Sep 23, 2020, 1:07 AM

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I still rock an AMD FX-8150. I have the honor to game with an old 21 inch CRT monitor

fleet canopy Sep 23, 2020, 1:07 AM

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At this point my build costs me about 1100$ with 400-600$ on a monitor

jade surge Sep 23, 2020, 1:08 AM

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I game 1080p on a 27 inch 144hz 1 ms monitor with a R5 1600AF and Nvidia 1660ti

fleet canopy Sep 23, 2020, 1:08 AM

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With a 3700X, 32GB DDR4-3200Mhz CAS16 ( yes, I still need to learn how to OC first ), Gigabyte Windforce(?) 2070 Super

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And a 1440p 60Hz IPS

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someone gib 1440p 144hz VA/IPS pls

jade surge Sep 23, 2020, 1:09 AM

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if you have the right motherboard and cooler you can overclock fairly well

fleet canopy Sep 23, 2020, 1:09 AM

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Got me a uhhhh

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~~who the fuck knows all their own parts specifically, am i right?~~

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ASUS Tuf gaming X570 plus wifi

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NmHG8M my current build

jade surge Sep 23, 2020, 1:12 AM

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my 1600 AF is stock 3200 MHz and I overclock it to 4100 MHz

fleet canopy Sep 23, 2020, 1:13 AM

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Time to look through 1440p 144hz monitors that have VA/IPS and isn't listed as a 1ms monitor

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Oh yeah baby, the ASUS Areee Ohhh Geeeeee!! monitor!

jade surge Sep 23, 2020, 1:15 AM

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what do you have for a cooler

fleet canopy Sep 23, 2020, 1:15 AM

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Stock

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I might take back the dark rock pro 4 I had to give to my brother because I lost AM4 thingy for it

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I got the Drp4 before I got the 3700X

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And kinda lost it until like much later when it was found while someone cleaned my room for a bit lole

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Or I could have a shadow rock 3 but eh

jade surge Sep 23, 2020, 1:16 AM

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you should check out the Arctic Liquid Freezer II for closed loop cooling

fleet canopy Sep 23, 2020, 1:17 AM

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Not really too interested in water cooling? Plus I'd have to spend on a case and more fans for that

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I do want to try it at one point

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Just kinda dumb expensive though lol

jade surge Sep 23, 2020, 1:17 AM

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your case will fit either the 240 or 280

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99.99 will get you the 240

fleet canopy Sep 23, 2020, 1:18 AM

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Huh, doesn't sound too bad

jade surge Sep 23, 2020, 1:19 AM

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fleet canopy Sep 23, 2020, 1:19 AM

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I won't have to spend on aftermarket fans for it since they'll be alright

jade surge Sep 23, 2020, 1:30 AM

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for under 200 you can get a better case, cooling for cpu and improved airflow throughout the case

fleet canopy Sep 23, 2020, 1:33 AM

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Yeah, I just have to figure that part out maybe

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But I'm kinda dummy and I always go for a little more pricing

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Better to just have a good better parts than not to anyways if they're a couple dollars or don't mind spending an extra 50 or so

jade surge Sep 23, 2020, 1:38 AM

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well with the ram you have you will have to OC it anyway to hit the 3200 speed

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I think by default it will only clock at 2133 before you OC it

fleet canopy Sep 23, 2020, 1:39 AM

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I already have it running 3200MHz CAS16

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I just want to OC it to 3600MHz CAS15 or 3200mhz cas14

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Found them pretty cheap so it wasn't really that bad imo

jade surge Sep 23, 2020, 1:40 AM

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you should take it to 3600 cas16 then go from there

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there is software that will help with OC

fleet canopy Sep 23, 2020, 1:41 AM

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I have it on the presets thing, but eh. I could try manually OCing it to the advertised speed and going over that

jade surge Sep 23, 2020, 1:41 AM

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check out the ryzen master software. it works quite well

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there is a lot of literature to help OC

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well good night. I will talk to you later cause if i dont I could talk tech all night long.

fleet canopy Sep 23, 2020, 1:43 AM

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Take care, have a good sleep

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Right

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I'm clueless with AIOs

vapid crypt Sep 23, 2020, 2:07 AM

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I didn't see the benchmarks for the 3090 vs the 3080, I didn't actually know the difference would be that small on average

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https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090-gaming-performance-review-leaks-out

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Its like 10%

fleet canopy Sep 23, 2020, 2:08 AM

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lol

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It's just the extra VRAM I guess

vapid crypt Sep 23, 2020, 2:09 AM

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Even with 20% more shaders, that just doesn't scale that well in games

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In rendering sure, 20% all day

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But in games forget about it

fleet canopy Sep 23, 2020, 2:10 AM

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kek

vapid crypt Sep 23, 2020, 2:10 AM

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Okay I took all the percentages in that table, and it averaged out to 8.8%

fleet canopy Sep 23, 2020, 2:10 AM

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Truly a titan

vapid crypt Sep 23, 2020, 2:11 AM

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So its safe to say that they can't really make anything stronger than the 3090, at least no more than like 1 or 2%

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And a 3080Ti if it existed would make the 3090 pointless for gamers, as it should be

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Though at the same time what's the point

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A 3080Ti would only be like 5% faster than the 3080 probably

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The only thing that would make it worthwhile is bandwidth

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Even then there's 20GB 3080s

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So that would likely fill in the potential price slot an alleged 3080Ti would take up

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They might call it the BFGPU, but its truly only big in bandwidth, and physical size. Its smaller brother is about as capable PirateSimon

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This terrible scaling is kind of reminding me of Vega

fleet canopy Sep 23, 2020, 2:26 AM

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I still don't think we're getting a 3080 Ti

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I feel like every doubled VRAM variant is going to be the "Ti" renaming just like with the Titan to xx90

vapid crypt Sep 23, 2020, 2:30 AM

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Its possible they'll put out a $1000 3080Ti with 12GB of 21Gb/s Vram

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That would make it faster than the 3090 at gaming... phaWesker

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Wouldn't be the first time they did that either, see the 780Ti, 980Ti and 1080Ti

fleet canopy Sep 23, 2020, 2:31 AM

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Mm, I guess that's a possibility

vapid crypt Sep 23, 2020, 2:31 AM

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I think the 980Ti was faster than the Titan X anyway, its like 3%ish differences

fleet canopy Sep 23, 2020, 2:31 AM

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lmao

fleet canopy Sep 23, 2020, 2:54 AM

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Anyone have an idea to recommend me an AIO?

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Preferably 240mm

barren jay Sep 23, 2020, 2:57 AM

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EKWB AIO best you could get for the price

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or coolermaster ml240l v2

fleet canopy Sep 23, 2020, 3:00 AM

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I've not looked into the EKWB one before, at least what I remember, but I've seen the coolermaster a couple times. How are they?

barren jay Sep 23, 2020, 3:04 AM

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ive used v1 its pretty good, the radiator and pump atleast, fans came with bearing noises out of the box. Anyway, the aio kept my ryzen 5 1600x pretty cool never went past 60c and it was OCed to 3.9ghz with quite a bit of voltage added.

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EKWB is my next choice tho. it looks pretty promising

fleet canopy Sep 23, 2020, 3:05 AM

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Oh, that's pretty cool

barren jay Sep 23, 2020, 3:05 AM

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don't do Corsair, theyre notorious for leaking at the radiator ends

fleet canopy Sep 23, 2020, 3:06 AM

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Yeah I've heard about it

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But then again, every cooler is bound for leaking PirateSimon Just not as common as Corsair I guess

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Idk why white AIOs had to be pretty sexy but eh

barren jay Sep 23, 2020, 3:07 AM

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they are tho

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its hard to find

fleet canopy Sep 23, 2020, 3:07 AM

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There's huge reviews for it and they're not given too much shit though, which is funny

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There was a couple more white AIOs

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If you like ROG

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lol

barren jay Sep 23, 2020, 3:08 AM

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rog?

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from asus?

fleet canopy Sep 23, 2020, 3:08 AM

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Yeah

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Asus Are Oh Geee!

barren jay Sep 23, 2020, 3:08 AM

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i didnt know they made aios lol

fleet canopy Sep 23, 2020, 3:08 AM

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Or this https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4x2bt6/id-cooling-pinkflow-240-552-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-pinkflow-240

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I mean

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ASUS ROG makes literally everything

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The only part they're alright in are just motherboards I think

barren jay Sep 23, 2020, 3:08 AM

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hmm interesting

fleet canopy Sep 23, 2020, 3:09 AM

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Like, I know ASUS ROG products are supposed to be pretty bad for their price I guess

barren jay Sep 23, 2020, 3:09 AM

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honestly, for $115 that aint that bad

fleet canopy Sep 23, 2020, 3:10 AM

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But like, they're not too bad in quality perhaps? I've heard conversations that some of the motherboards are good overclocking boards iirc, pretty good VRMs compared to others

barren jay Sep 23, 2020, 3:10 AM

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Its very believable

fleet canopy Sep 23, 2020, 3:10 AM

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I generally avoid ROG products though

barren jay Sep 23, 2020, 3:10 AM

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they are top tier

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why is that?

fleet canopy Sep 23, 2020, 3:11 AM

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Not for price, but their dumb shit is on everything, like other company's PC cases with the stupid dumbass "ROG Certified" permanently marked on the glass

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For instance, the Lian Li 011 Dynamic iirc

barren jay Sep 23, 2020, 3:12 AM

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ah i see

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thats terrible lol

fleet canopy Sep 23, 2020, 3:13 AM

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Apparently the EKWB one has pretty short tubes, but I guess it won't matter since I'll put it on the top kek

vapid crypt Sep 23, 2020, 3:18 AM

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Its the XL variant of the o11 dynamic that has the ROG certified mark phaWesker

restive garnet Sep 23, 2020, 3:18 AM

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asus arent the only company to do it

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i have a stupid EKWB certified case

fleet canopy Sep 23, 2020, 3:18 AM

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Ah yeah the XL one

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lol EKWB certified

restive garnet Sep 23, 2020, 3:19 AM

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best part is

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its a shit case for water cooling

fleet canopy Sep 23, 2020, 3:19 AM

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lmfao

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How'd it get certified