#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk

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vapid crypt
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Wait what's my fault? phaWesker

vapid crypt
proper wren
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My 1700x bottlenecks 3080

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feels bad man

vapid crypt
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Yeah, time for an upgrade PirateSimon

proper wren
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Zen 3

fleet canopy
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Wait for 2 more generations

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We haven't even gotten 4000 yet

restive garnet
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whelp, when i went to bed last night, i didnt realize that the 3080 was going up for sale at like 2 am

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and now they are all sold out

jade ermine
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If it makes you feel any better your chances were really slim even if you were up at that time

restive garnet
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i mean

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local NZ retailers

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by the sounds it took them around 4 hours to sell out

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so i would have had a fairly good chance

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ah well, i dont really care all that much

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as long as i get one by the time CP2077 comes out

dusty pumice
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Always have the chance to get one by the time CP2077 Multiplayer releases

restive garnet
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probably, i just want my full experience of the game to be in raytraced glory, while maxing out my monitor

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which are both things that my current card cant do

vapid crypt
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I wouldn't be surprised if most of the people that got them were scalpers using scripts to buy them

proper wren
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My store is banning people that resell 3080 at higher cost

lilac geyser
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how do they know?

fleet canopy
eternal cairn
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I can see everyone on eBay selling RTX 3080s for $1000+.

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Supposedly a lot of scalpers resellers have been using some kind of automated script to buy as many RTX 3080s as they can by automating checkouts and sending alerts via email.

fleet canopy
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Yeah

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NVIDIA doesn't really do preorders or sell anything before the announced date

eternal cairn
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Fortunately, it looks like Nvidia is actually manually verifying all of the purchases and weeding out all of the scalpers.

fleet canopy
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Unless the preorder is found on NVIDIA's site somehow

eternal cairn
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I doubt it.

proper wren
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Our company basically requires membership and proof of verification if you plan to buy RTX 3080. Anyone that tries to resell it at a higher value has their account blacklisted, if the card comes back to the store with a different owner. The other owner is basically screwed and has to go through RMA with the third party brand. We basically have the list of serial numbers in the POS/ERP system when the card is purchased.

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doggopeek Banish all the price gougers

eternal cairn
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Yes.

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Hopefully, Amazon starts doing the same.

vapid crypt
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New egg is completely sold out, the only one I saw in stock as an MSI ventus model at Best Buy

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Probably all out now

sick reef
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People aren't waiting for the 3080 Ti? Hmm

honest sparrow
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3090 super ? 😈

proper wren
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3660 super doggosing

sick reef
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You go back to the seventh ring of hell with that series.

brisk badger
sick reef
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Scalping scalpers

proper wren
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1660 supers are decent to have lol

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till they get slapped by 5600 XT and also be glad not to purchase 2070/2080s

rancid thicket
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Thank god that my 2060 is my temporary graphics card now that new shit is being released

proper wren
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sold my 970 and 2070

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using rx 570 4gb card. Still serving me well

clear quartz
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im still happily gaming on a GTX 1060m

eternal cairn
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Same with me, but a 1070.

restive garnet
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still on my 1080ti, till the 3080 restocks in like a month 😦

clear quartz
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ill be on 1060m until probably next gen after 3080

abstract kite
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can anyone confirm that the drivers improved the performance of the cards?

vapid crypt
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Not without extensive testing, don't they always say that when they update game ready drivers or whatever?

solid sundial
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@restive garnet poor you! cant imagine having to play on a gtx 1080 ti... you should honestly contact your local human rights movement!

pearl cedar
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im on a 2080 till I can get my hands on a 3080 😉

solid sundial
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omg!!

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ive tracked your location, and a 10 squads of highly trained spetznas units are coming to rescue you in 5 minutes unix time!

tardy jackal
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Wut

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There are better ways to troll people just sayin

old patrol
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Just someone trying to be funny

tardy jackal
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An attempt was made, for sure

old patrol
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👀

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Oh no a purple guy is typing

nimble anvil
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I am ded

old patrol
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Yep

fleet junco
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Can we get this chat back on topic please?

@solid sundial @nimble anvil Mind your manners. We don't tolerate trolling and uncivilized behavior on the server. Telling someone to 'stfu' and asking for nudes is definitely in violation of our rules. I highly recommend you read them again, thoroughly.

nimble anvil
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k

fleet junco
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💙

nimble anvil
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{3

merry bay
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i'm surprised I've never ran into a fat heart like that before

nimble anvil
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Only bad boys get it like me

brisk badger
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@solid sundial unix time doesnt know minutes

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" the spetznas is there to save you at 1600618080" would be correct

vapid crypt
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So according to Nvidia they're shipping out to retailers on a daily basis, and verifying every purchase through their store. I hope for the sake of them not getting in the hands of scalpers that's true phaWesker

nimble anvil
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Nah, they're all gonna be got by scalpers and sold for $1,000,000 each

vapid crypt
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Oh I don't doubt it

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Especially via Amazon and Newegg

nimble anvil
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I've just preordered the MSI Trio X. It's like £100 more than the standard price, but at this point I just want a damn card

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I ordered 2 just in case and I can't cancel one of them because the website and phone line are broke lmao

vapid crypt
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Can't even Nvlink em... not that it would be useful but still phaWesker

nimble anvil
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If I get 2 cards I'll probably just sell it off at the same price as I got it for. I don't care about making a profit at this point. I'd rather someone just be happy they got one too

fleet canopy
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Or sell it for like a bit less than the MSRP

vapid crypt
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Hey now I don't expect people to run a charity with their graphics cards PirateSimon

nimble anvil
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I'm not selling it for a loss lol

fleet canopy
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kek

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Fair enough

pearl cedar
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I'm not selling it for a loss lol
@nimble anvil ill give u 20$, deal?

fleet canopy
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lmao

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I'll buy for 50$ @nimble anvil

pearl cedar
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51$ here

fleet canopy
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52$

pearl cedar
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52.01$

fleet canopy
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I'll give my 2070 Super

pearl cedar
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I

fleet canopy
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pls daddy i need this

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I wanna play CB2077 full RTX with good FPS :(

vapid crypt
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Surely the performance can't be that bad on a 2070 Super?

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I mean the game isn't out yet, but It'll most likely be fine

nimble anvil
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$5 is the lowest I'd go

fleet canopy
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I mean

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I do want RTX

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Maybe it's just cause I tried it on RTX quake which again goes 100% on everything

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Although for going 36FPS on a 1440p monitor it isn't too bad

vapid crypt
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Most games aren't maxing out that level of ray tracing yet

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Quake 2 was used as an example of what could be done eventually with full path tracing and reflections

fleet canopy
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So more like a demo?

vapid crypt
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Turing doesn't do it too well, Ampere improves on it a lot

fleet canopy
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That no one could run more than 60FPS on

vapid crypt
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Part of the reason why they doubled shaders, I think the extra shaders are handling the RT instructions

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From what I understand on Turing, when the shaders are doing RT; they only do RT. Its why there's a performance loss

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Cause now you have a good chunk of the shaders not handling the rasterization

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Where as now with Ampere they can kinda switch between the two on the fly

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That's what AMD's cards are gonna be doing from what I've heard, so they should be better than Turing possibly

fleet canopy
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Ah, I see

meager umbra
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Ampere and Vulkan being open standards to implement will hopefully drive competition in the market. Nvidia needs the competition in order to not end up with an antitrust lawsuit on their hands.

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If every game requires RT and only Turing cores could handle it then they’d wind up with an effective monopoly and only certain games run on certain cards and it just makes a whole big mess.

vapid crypt
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I don't see that happening anytime soon

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Games that can only run on RT supporting hardware that is

proper wren
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Rolling stones sound guy came in the store

meager umbra
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It’s just a good move for nvidia. They get to be the good guys and have a seat at the table and help guide the conversation instead of everyone else ganging up on them

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Because that would happen if they didn’t maintain an open standard

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They release the API and keep their proprietary implementation of it

vapid crypt
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Oh so devs don't have to partner with Nvidia?

meager umbra
proper wren
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@dense wasp didnt you get hooked up by Noctua?

meager umbra
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No they don’t really have to. Every system has their own competing standard like DX11/12 vs apple metal vs OpenGL

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Vulkan hopes to unify them by defining the API to use a common set. It’s kind of what OpenGL tried to do a while back

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But OpenGL was started by silicon graphics and maintained open source but didn’t really get a chance to compete with DX

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Looks like Kronos group is still handling Vulkan. But it’s designed for multi core cpus while OpenGL and DX don’t scale properly

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And is entirely cross platform across mobile devices as well

brisk badger
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I am very confused on how to interpret this

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Ampere is an architecture for GPU's

meager umbra
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Yes

brisk badger
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Vulkan is an API

meager umbra
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Vulkan is an api, yes

brisk badger
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how is the first an open standard? Speaking of Ampere

dense wasp
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@proper wren Yeah, why? 🙂

meager umbra
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The first isn’t an open standard I realize my statement was confusing but I didn’t mean that ampere and Vulkan were both open

dense wasp
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we got partnerships with all the big dudes in one form or another @vapid crypt

proper wren
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Curious lol

vapid crypt
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I didn't ask, but thanks for the info PirateSimon

eternal cairn
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Nice.

meager umbra
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Right now they really need to have partnerships with the big dudes

proper wren
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The sound engineer guy from rolling stones basically gave me $15K budget and told me to build a system for him to do sound audio lol

dense wasp
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Oh so devs don't have to partner with Nvidia?
@vapid crypt
ah, I read this as "the devs" = us

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🙂

proper wren
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Ludvig are you going Zen 3 lol

meager umbra
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@dense wasp BTW if 10 chambers ever needs another engineer raises hand sheepishly

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I’m really hoping unity capitalizes on the UE/Apple drama

eternal cairn
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So, how about the price gouging on eBay?

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Anybody else see the RTX 3080 cards selling for $1000+?

proper wren
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$1500

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le ban

meager umbra
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I just ignore them. There’s no point

eternal cairn
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Supposedly, someone is making alt accounts to inflate the prices so high that nobody would actually bid for them.

vapid crypt
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I've only seen the ones where they're $10k+ cause people are trolling the scalpers

eternal cairn
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I love it!

brisk badger
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ebay has always been like that for any goods lol.

And there is always people buying somehow

vapid crypt
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They're selling for that high, but obviously they're not getting it

eternal cairn
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Someone got lucky and sold their RTX 2080 for $650 the day before the 3080 launched.

meager umbra
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There is absolutely no point in ditching your current setup if you can play games reasonably. Wait till Rocket Lake + 30xti series comes out

vapid crypt
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I saw a drawing of a 3080 that said "Fuck E-bay for supporting Scalpers" selling for over 30k phaWesker

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"selling"

eternal cairn
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But I'm too broke for TI.

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Not the calculator brand, but the graphic cards.

fleet canopy
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No!1!

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I m,ust have 3090 so I can do ray tracing at 500502505205FPS on 4K !!!!!

vapid crypt
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lolno

proper wren
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2d waifus

eternal cairn
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The new cards can hardly accomplish 144 fps at 4k. LOL

fleet canopy
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:(((((((((

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I NEEED!

eternal cairn
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I feel like that was sort of a letdown with this generation of cards.

proper wren
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nvm people are trying to sell 3080 for $2000s now lol

vapid crypt
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Listen to Steve Burke

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He knows the Tech way

eternal cairn
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Those are people scalping the price scalpers, @proper wren.

fleet canopy
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Yeah I know nothing can actually do 144hz 4K anyways

vapid crypt
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Probably could with DLSS

eternal cairn
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Wouldn't it be amazing if there was something that could though?

fleet canopy
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I guess

meager umbra
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The new cards can hardly accomplish 144 fps at 4k. LOL
@eternal cairn the 3080 can only get 36.5FPS on crysis remaster

fleet canopy
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Linus ran the new Crisis Remaster with the 3080

eternal cairn
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Yikes.

vapid crypt
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Doesn't the raw performance almost get there in Doom Eternal?

eternal cairn
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The true test of all GPUs: if they can run Crysis at 60 fps.

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If not, they failed.

meager umbra
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It’s always been that way

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That’s why they released crysis remaster

vapid crypt
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I think you mean Flight Simulator 2020

fleet canopy
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I think he said he was a little bit disappointed but he did say it wasn't like the final build so they might still put out things that are crazy difficult to run

eternal cairn
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Oof.

brisk badger
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30series = pleasing investors

meager umbra
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My friend is playing it right now on the 2080ti

eternal cairn
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Until Nvidia cancels the price scalpers' and botters' orders.

meager umbra
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1440p @144hz in CIRC mode

fleet canopy
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Did they give out like a uhh

eternal cairn
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What's CIRC mode?

fleet canopy
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Early access key?

meager umbra
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Can it run crysis

eternal cairn
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Ohh.

meager umbra
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It’s a setting that enables ray tracing

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And other things

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The 2080ti is not obsolete for 1440p

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It’s certainly no chump

eternal cairn
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It depends on the possible framerate, really.

proper wren
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2080ti is still a good card to have... within the price range

eternal cairn
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The same can be said with any card. LOL

fleet canopy
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Even now, with how it's 400$ to be found

meager umbra
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I only have 60hz monitors

fleet canopy
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I only have a 1440p 60hz

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Me wants 1440p 144hz

meager umbra
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There’s absolutely no point in higher frames

vapid crypt
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Sure depends on the resolution, right now I see no reason to go up from my 580 as long as I'm running 1080p

meager umbra
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For me

fleet canopy
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Fair enough

proper wren
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10 series and 16 series be like pugdance

vapid crypt
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Probably doesn't have much longer though

fleet canopy
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Unless you love scrolling

eternal cairn
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My next goal is to get 1440p at 144 hz just because both have 144 in them.

fleet canopy
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Then get 144hz for epic scrolling 😎

eternal cairn
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I like scrolling.

fleet canopy
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^^^

eternal cairn
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But screen tearing is pretty bad.

fleet canopy
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My eyes hurt sometimes when I scroll

meager umbra
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I have 4K monitors that I run at 1440

proper wren
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I'm running 1440p 144hz with rx 570 4gb lol

fleet canopy
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there's barely any screen tear on my 1440p 60hz IPS

vapid crypt
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Wow talk about filling out the card phaWesker

fleet canopy
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At least not that I know of

proper wren
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buried my 2070

fleet canopy
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Guess you'll settle for a 3070

meager umbra
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My MBP has a 560x 4gb

proper wren
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btw mayo

fleet canopy
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Yes?

proper wren
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kid bought my 2070 for 510

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just to play fortnite

fleet canopy
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lole

meager umbra
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I got it before the Vegas came out :’(

fleet canopy
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Poor kid

vapid crypt
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Oh

proper wren
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he had rx 580 before it

vapid crypt
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That's kinda exploitative ngl phaWesker

fleet canopy
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Not too bad

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But poor kid

proper wren
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I'm looking at him like, are you serious? Just for Fortnite?

fleet canopy
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I mean

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A deal's a deal

eternal cairn
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LUL

proper wren
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yep

meager umbra
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My daughter uses a Radeon VII for roblox

fleet canopy
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You got yourself easy money for a 3070 at least

eternal cairn
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I mean, if they were offering. (Don't take that suggestively.)

proper wren
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waiting for 3060 ti

meager umbra
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So I mean it’s whatever

fleet canopy
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I use a 3700X, 2070 Super and 32GB of ram for minesweeper

meager umbra
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It’s my old RVII

fleet canopy
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I mean

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If he's running a 1080p

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2070 ain't so bad

vapid crypt
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Its fine for 1440

fleet canopy
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yeah but for futureproof no doubt it'll last much long anyways

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RTX-3070-Super-16-GB

vapid crypt
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Maybe, depends on your fps target

proper wren
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Guessing the super cards are workstation use

fleet canopy
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I mean

meager umbra
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If you’re getting a 30x, I’d suggest waiting until rocket lake processors land

fleet canopy
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Maybe?

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But I mean

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16GB VRAM

meager umbra
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When motherboards will have PCIE 4.0

fleet canopy
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Instead of 8

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: )

vapid crypt
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Or just get Zen 3 PirateSimon

fleet canopy
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Zen 3 is like two gens away

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Yay

proper wren
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I'm AMD Simp

fleet canopy
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Like I'd def go for a 3070 or something if I wanted

vapid crypt
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Zen 3 is next month what do you mean phaSip

meager umbra
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My kids use ryzen 3600s. is meh

proper wren
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only like 10% of the people in the store buy 10th gen intel cpus

fleet canopy
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I'm more interested in what AMD has though for their GPU

proper wren
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only for htpc

vapid crypt
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You're underselling the 3600

meager umbra
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I have both intel and ryzen cpus. 3 kids with their own pc builds. It’s honestly meh

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It’s not bad by any means

fleet canopy
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It's not really meh

vapid crypt
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Hardly meh though

meager umbra
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But the 9700 i7 is also only $250

fleet canopy
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What?

meager umbra
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So

fleet canopy
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Impossible!

proper wren
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let me see the deals rn

vapid crypt
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It's been as low for $150

fleet canopy
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^

proper wren
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it can go lower

fleet canopy
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3600 at 160$ or lower is great

vapid crypt
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Right now it hasn't been on sale

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Next month I could see it getting that low and lower in November

fleet canopy
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And you can def trust AMD to lower it even further unlike intel PirateSimon

fleet canopy
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maybe not, but like it could go lower at some point

vapid crypt
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Only reason 9700K even gets as low as $250 is cause of the 10600K

proper wren
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9700KF is 129

fleet canopy
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What the fuck is "Masters" "Apprentice" and "Legends"?

eternal cairn
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^

vapid crypt
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What are those prices?

proper wren
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Partnered with intel la

meager umbra
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No idea but

vapid crypt
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And what does it mean

proper wren
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I'm not suppose to show them too

vapid crypt
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Nice maybe you should remove it then phaWesker

proper wren
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ye

fleet canopy
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Partnered with Intel La, cannot show but shows nonetheless

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Hm

proper wren
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169 for 9900kf is not bad though

eternal cairn
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Hmm indeed.

vapid crypt
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No not at all

proper wren
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I'm debating on it but at the same time there's zen 3

vapid crypt
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That's a special price that your average person can't get however

proper wren
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wait let me see AMD program

fleet canopy
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I guess I'll go back to playing Skate 2 then

eternal cairn
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On mobile?

fleet canopy
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PC

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: 0

proper wren
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amd has nothing in their stores that are good currently doggopeek

eternal cairn
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LUL

vapid crypt
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Won't be a great price until next month pretty much

proper wren
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I see a bunch of sony tvs and hi sense tvs

eternal cairn
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Sony doesn't make TVs anymore.

proper wren
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their XBR Series

eternal cairn
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They sold off all their other departments so they could focus on gaming (which was a stupid decision).

proper wren
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from 2017

eternal cairn
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Okay, that makes sense.

proper wren
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I noticed

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people are buying all th e8th gen nucs and not the 9th gen cpus

eternal cairn
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Nucs?

proper wren
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Intel NUCs

eternal cairn
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Yeah, what are those?

vapid crypt
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Its a tiny computer?

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Something like that

eternal cairn
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Oh.

proper wren
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like one of those tiny intel computers

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NUC8I7INHJA & NUC8I7INHPA

vapid crypt
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Its basically a simple board with a card slotting into it if I recall correctly

proper wren
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ye

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with radeon graphics

vapid crypt
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I suppose they haven't released Ice Lake Nucs yet PirateSimon

proper wren
fleet canopy
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Hm.

vapid crypt
dense wasp
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I run Nucs at home, they're actually really fast

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at least the skull canyon one I have

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@meager umbra you do engineering then? 🙂

meager umbra
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@meager umbra you do engineering then? 🙂
@dense wasp yeah I’m a SDE by trade and I used to write flight controller firmware

dense wasp
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ah, neat,
You enjoy it?

tardy jackal
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Not to be a simp, but it's pretty cool that as a developer you hang out with the community :) @dense wasp

dense wasp
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not simping at all, haha

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I mean, I don't really see the point with having a neat community, if you don't hang out with it 🤷‍♂️ 😅

meager umbra
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❤️ I PMed you @dense wasp

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And it is great to see devs hanging out in the community for the game they are developing. It’s not as common of an occurrence as one would hope or assume

dense wasp
abstract kite
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true this is what makes the dev great 😄

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ludvig hands down well in general entire team is my fav dev team since evolve game aka 2K game devs... well in general Evolve devs i call them... but yeah GTFO devs = best ❤️

tardy jackal
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Agreed

abstract kite
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Either way im here to ask.. can anyone tell me whats the total power consumption on rtx 3080 + 9900k or even 3080 + 10900k

vapid crypt
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Um Hardware Unboxed has a power draw chart

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Lemme see...

abstract kite
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oh just link vid then

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i watched a vid on "for gamers"

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and it shown it being like 606W total on all stock

vapid crypt
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Oh so they changed to a 3950X test system

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At least I think?

abstract kite
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i see 523W

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ok so basically im fine with my 650W 80+ modular

vapid crypt
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Uh probably

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Kinda hitting the line, keep in mind the 3950X is more efficient than the 9900K

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Shit its more efficient than the 3900X

abstract kite
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either way im fine with OCCing both to like mid OC right and keeping it at like 600W

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so i need only new Case right...

vapid crypt
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If you're considering a new case why not get a better power supply while you're at it?

fleet canopy
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Or undervolt GPU

vapid crypt
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Sure Undervolting could probably work

abstract kite
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@vapid crypt i know what ur doing 👀 putting me in check mate with that question...

fleet canopy
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By how much though

vapid crypt
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Couldn't say

abstract kite
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if i say now.. i dont have enough money to buy the new case + PSU.... u will say.. OH HOW do u have money for an RTX 3080

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isnt that right GWsabianPepoHmm

vapid crypt
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I don't know the stock voltages of a 3080

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Let alone an AIB card

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Which are gonna crank up voltages and clocks out of the box

abstract kite
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ok basically i dont have 100€ extra to buy a new PSU GWjiangoOmegaLUL

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i had to waste money on multiple things.. from my savings that is... one of it is corona fault, other is family issues... so thats already 300€

vapid crypt
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You could stick the clockspeed at stock boost and lower the voltage, takes some tweeking

abstract kite
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soo im 300€ in minus from like my savings due to whole situation...

vapid crypt
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But it would make it more efficient, maybe only cost like 10% of the performance

abstract kite
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I mean i can technically get more money from selling my PSU + GPU seperatly

vapid crypt
#

Could you? What are you looking to get for them together?

abstract kite
#

idk in my country which is croatia our tech prices didnt go down xD

#

so yeah keep that in mind

#

so im looking to get around 200€ which is 300$

vapid crypt
#

That's not as high as I thought actually

#

I would probably ask like $250 for something like that

abstract kite
#

eh its both old

#

i got an option to wait and get lucky from selling my entire pc... and get new pc for 2200€

#

or just like buy a new case and use that power supply until i get paychecks n shit..

lilac geyser
#

why would people buy new graphics cards with other new cards coming out so soon?

#

unless they wouldnt have even considerd buying the other brand, in which case i call them fanboys (with maximum predjuice on the word fanboy in this case)

#

yes and?

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(not that i am agreeing with you)

pearl cedar
#

unless they wouldnt have even considerd buying the other brand, in which case i call them fanboys (with maximum predjuice on the word fanboy in this case)
@lilac geyser aint my fault nvidia always ahead of amd

#

🤷

lilac geyser
#

but you dont know yet?

pearl cedar
#

no trust me, i come from the future

lilac geyser
#

ok so we have one person who cant articulate their point, and another claiming to be from the future. i can't accept either of this answers as valid counterpoints

abstract kite
#

So get this. My friend brought his computer to geek squad because his computer was over heating and shutting off. They had his computer for three weeks and they gave him news on his computer.

#

That nothing was wrong with it.

fleet canopy
#

Haven't he/you learned that any tech support can go fuck right out of the window?

pearl cedar
#

geek squad are elites dont fuck with them

fleet canopy
#

I would >:(

pearl cedar
#

i did 🙂

fleet canopy
#

I did too!

#

3060 is like

#

An RTX 2080

#

Maybe?

fleet canopy
#

WD lied again :OOO

lilac geyser
#

yes they did

#

at least we have ssds now and many more manufacturers to choose from

#

unrelated to them lying, WD is the only HD manufacturer that had a drive die on me while still in the warranty period

fleet canopy
#

General RTX On/Off performance with the 3080 compared to a 2080 Ti, 2080, and 2070

vapid crypt
#

3060 has been rumored for this year, but we also know the 3060Ti has been spec'd

#

So that might be the one we're getting instead

#

But that's easily gonna be $400

fleet canopy
#

So then what should we expect the 3060 and 3060 Ti to perform like?

eternal cairn
#

Probably on par with a 2070 or 20% more than the 2060.

fleet canopy
#

That wouldn't really make so much sense though

#

The 3070 is on par with 2080 Ti, 3080 does the same FPS in 1440p as the 2080 Ti does in 1080p

eternal cairn
#

But how low could Nvidia go on the price of the 3060?

fleet canopy
#

Like

#

300$

#

3080 is 700$, 3070 is 500$, it'd make sense for 3060 to be 300$

#

I guess they'll have Ti variants, 3060 Ti being 400$, 3070 Ti being 600$, and 3080 Ti being 800$ which ain't happening

lilac geyser
#

you people are like drug addicts

fleet canopy
#

lol

lilac geyser
#

these cards arent even out yet and you want the next one

fleet canopy
#

I thought they were?

eternal cairn
#

Only the 3080 is.

fleet canopy
#

oh

#

Well yeah

eternal cairn
#

Next month is the 3070.

fleet canopy
#

Damn

#

Rereleasing a 2 gen old GPU

#

What the fuck is with novideo :(

lilac geyser
#

ha

eternal cairn
#

Nvidia is just as bland with their naming as Sony.

#

All they do is just change a number at the end of the brand.

fleet canopy
#

Eh

#

You're talking about a naming scheme that even AMD Uses

#

"RX 470"

#

"RX 570"

lilac geyser
#

you can get the XXX series, or the YYYY series. intel tried the ZZZZZ series and they are getting made fun of

fleet canopy
#

"Radeon 5700XT"

#

They're getting made fun of because they're so fucking bad at naming CPUs even the CEO himself can't remember what the fuck it's called

#

Like holy damn how is anyone supposed to know the numbers lmfao

vapid crypt
#

The 3060Ti from the leaked specs is going to be a cutdown 3070

#

So probably around 20% less performance, it has like 10 less SMS

#

Somewhere inbetween a 2080 and 2080Super I guess?

fleet canopy
#

Eh, not too bad

#

But then that means the 3060 is basically a 2070/Super

#

With better RT ig

vapid crypt
#

Also I prefer a bland name than a confusing one tbh phaWesker

#

Xbox, Xbox 360, Xbox One... you lost me

fleet canopy
#

Xbox One S

#

Xbox One X

#

What the fuck is the better one

#

No one knows

#

Sony's got it perfectly nice

#

PS

#

PS2

#

PS3

odd portalBOT
#

That action was successful. asweeperbot

vapid crypt
#

It's kind of funny to think like hundreds of years from now, people might look back on the Xbox brand in some way and possibly not understand which was the first console

proper wren
#

maybe Xbox Series tried to be like Tesla

#

Tesla S, E, X, Y

merry bay
#

since simple is bad, Intel with their 11gen CPU's are ahead of everybody

late sorrel
#

damn did the ps4 get purged

void perch
#

There never was a ps4. It was all an imagination

fleet canopy
#

Fucking spam thing

#

Anyways yeah

#

PS4 doesn't exist

bright shard
#

its all ps5?
always has been.

jade ermine
#

3080 vs 3090 benchmarks apparently. looks like my 15% prediction is rather accurate 😄

dull blaze
#

anyone here in Oce?

#

been looking to find a site to like buy 3080

#

or is the 3080 halted?

abstract kite
#

LoL

abstract kite
#

It's better to just wait to get the 3000 series of cards tbh.

fallow goblet
#

The 3080 cane out like 2 months after i bought a 2070 super, looks like im waiting for the 4080 or some shit

#

Fuck me dude

fallow goblet
#

Lmao

#

The 2070 super has been a beast lately tho, but maybe thats cuz i used to play on integrated on my laptop

abstract kite
#

2070 have aged and refined drivers. Now for $600-$700 is a rip off.

fleet canopy
#

All the 2080 ti owners paying 1200$ instead 500$ right before price leaks revealed

#

How the fuck did so many people do this

brisk badger
#

We live in a society

vapid crypt
#

All the people panic selling and they weren't able to get a 3080 PirateSimon

#

Now they gotta buy back a 2080Ti at a loss probably

#

Or settle for using a weaker card that they probably have on hand if they're smart like that

brisk badger
#

yesterdays video of gamersnexus was good. I like that he was basically shocked what pc enthusiast became

vapid crypt
#

I don't know if he's surprised or merely disappointed

abstract kite
#

Disappointed

vapid crypt
#

Is it the video where he's comparing Gen 3 to Gen 4 PCIe?

#

Cause I haven't seen it yet

brisk badger
#

the day before, the one talking about the supply

#

the gen 3 vs 4 i just skipped a bit through. sometimes 3% difference in fps

vapid crypt
#

I figured that would be about the difference if there ever is one

abstract kite
#

Still though

#

You buy a 3080 to then try to sell it at a premium?

fleet canopy
#

no that isn't it you dummy

#

Someone's made a bot to set this shit to like

#

A high stupid number so no one buys it

#

And the guy trying to sell it won't get any money for it

abstract kite
#

they did it with For Honor
@abstract kite what honor?

fleet canopy
#

oh that game

#

gross

vapid crypt
#

Bitwit Kyle said something that kinda shocked me "At this point I would pay $2000 for one if I couldn't get one." That's unthinkable to me tbh phaWesker

fleet canopy
#

lol no way am I spending 2000$ on a card that's supposed to be 700$

vapid crypt
#

Imagine paying more for a 3080 than what a 3090 will be sold for

fleet canopy
#

Yeah

#

Imagine paying for a 3080 that's more than 100$ MSRP

#

Or 200$

#

Since the 3090 is supposed to be like,

#

1200$?

fallow goblet
#

I think so around there

#

Plus the 3090 will probably be easier to buy because everyone already bought the 3080

fleet canopy
#

Ehh

#

Not really

fallow goblet
#

Nah i think so

fleet canopy
#

You're not gonna run that on a R5 3600

vapid crypt
#

3090 is supposed to be $1500

fleet canopy
#

And it's more of a Titan

#

It's just stupid unless you're doing 4K too

fallow goblet
#

True

#

I almost bought a 2080 Ti

vapid crypt
#

That's what Nvidia says, I think they're just upselling a 3080Ti and justifying a price hike by changing the name PirateSimon

fleet canopy
#

But I think the 3080 does 4K better than 3090 in price to performance

#

Yeah but

fallow goblet
#

But then i realized my monitor was 1080p so i bought a 2070 super

fleet canopy
#

The specs is quite literally that

#

I mean

#

Well

vapid crypt
#

I know that the specs are similar to what you would get from a Titan

fleet canopy
#

To be fair

vapid crypt
#

But literally cut the memory in half

#

And that's what a 3080Ti would have been

fleet canopy
#

12GB?

vapid crypt
#

And what it will eventually be

fleet canopy
#

Just 2 more GB than a 3080

fallow goblet
#

Isnt the 2080ti 12?

vapid crypt
#

Well its not just the Vram its also the memory bus

fallow goblet
#

Or is it 11

fleet canopy
#

11

fallow goblet
#

Yea

vapid crypt
#

384-bit

fleet canopy
#

But the cards are coming out are like, coming with for instance 3070 will get a 10GB and 20GB version

#

I mean 8/16*

#

But you get the idea

fallow goblet
#

Yea

fleet canopy
#

So what's the 3080 Ti supposed to be at this point

fallow goblet
#

Idk im pretty happy with what i have

#

Idk

fleet canopy
#

I just need a monitor that my PC can actually use

vapid crypt
#

Like I said it'll be 3090 with half the Vram, and probably 2 less SMs

fallow goblet
#

I havent really looked into the 3000 series

pearl cedar
#

imagine getting a 3090 with a 1080 p monitor

#

lul

vapid crypt
#

Hahahaha

fleet canopy
#

l o l e

vapid crypt
#

You know there will be like 3 people that does that

fleet canopy
#

What if it's used in cases with blender?

#

Something like that

vapid crypt
#

I heard of some dude using a 2080ti with a really old 1080p monitor

pearl cedar
#

if u dont got a 4k monitor dont get a 3090

fleet canopy
#

lole

#

I mean

vapid crypt
#

And he was like a tech journalist or something

fleet canopy
#

There's a 1440p 240Hz

vapid crypt
#

Honestly just get the 3080 if you really need that level of performance

pearl cedar
#

240 hz is not noticably different than 144hz. At least not as noticable as 60>>>144

fleet canopy
#

At least there is iirc from Jackfrags

vapid crypt
#

We're talking 15% for half the price

fleet canopy
#

Yeah like always

vapid crypt
#

Err double the price even

fleet canopy
#

The highest end just gets a bad price to performance

#

And the next highest is pretty much way better

fallow goblet
#

I got a 1080p 165 hz

fleet canopy
#

Like that 2080 vs 2080 Ti

fallow goblet
#

I like it a lot

pearl cedar
#

1080p is for noobs, sorry

fleet canopy
#

Shut

#

It is not for noobs

fallow goblet
#

Nah i have been playing on 1080p my whole life, i dont need 4k

fleet canopy
#

It's for esports nerds

fallow goblet
#

Im happy with 1080p

pearl cedar
#

switch to 1440p 144hz it will change ur life bud

fallow goblet
#

Nah

fleet canopy
#

You have a 2070 Super

#

It'll do nicely

#

Like fr

fallow goblet
#

Yea but still

fleet canopy
#

My brother's played 1080p all his life

fallow goblet
#

1080 is a good res

fleet canopy
#

And he's tried my 1440p on rust, was really surprised with how good it looked

vapid crypt
#

I'll go to 1440 when I get a new card

pearl cedar
#

1440 is 1000% better than 1080

fleet canopy
#

That's like

#

10 times better

fallow goblet
#

Maybe

fleet canopy
#

You really have to try out 1440p at least once

fallow goblet
#

Once i get more money saved

vapid crypt
#

I doubt its that much better though

pearl cedar
#

I doubt its that much better though
@vapid crypt no, it is

fallow goblet
#

I mean i could always use my 1080p monitor as a second one

fleet canopy
#

It's really good for nice visuals in games and/or you know, uhhh

vapid crypt
#

Probably more so 1440 to 4k where there's nearly no difference from what Ive heard anyway

fallow goblet
#

Yea i just hopped on the rust train, im fuckin addicted so

fleet canopy
#

Like you probably won't see anyone too far too well on a 1080p

pearl cedar
#

if u play any remotely graphic intense games, 1440p will look orgasmic compared to 1080

#

ive played on 1440 for a couple years now and if I switch to 1080 my eyes fuckin hurt

fleet canopy
#

But 1440p makes them much clearer depending on distance, etc.

#

Yeah

fallow goblet
#

Lmao @pearl cedar imagine not being ambassador

#

Sike

fleet canopy
#

Imagine flexing ambassador role

#

smh

pearl cedar
#

why would i register on the website

fleet canopy
#

It's just a newsletter thing

fallow goblet
#

Tru

fleet canopy
#

Only real reason people got it was for beta key PirateSimon

vapid crypt
#

Alpha key here phaSip

fallow goblet
#

Didnt know it existed until R3

fleet canopy
#

Yeah it was alpha/beta

#

You need "Ass" role

#

Colored brown

#

Disgusting butt

pearl cedar
#

R4 needs to drop soon

fleet canopy
#

R69 when

#

But yeah

fallow goblet
#

Nah im content with r3 rn

#

Bullpup op

pearl cedar
#

R3 been out for a while compared to the first 2

#

too long tbh

fleet canopy
#

1080p versus 1440p is a whole hell of a difference on the same size, 1080p 24" vs 1440p 24"

fallow goblet
#

Maybe r4 is gonna be huge

#

Like massive

fleet canopy
#

And if you do play competitive games or whatever, you get a bigger view than 1080p

pearl cedar
#

what if i only use ms paint

#

can it run it?

fallow goblet
#

Lmao

#

I love ms paint

fleet canopy
#

I can't even fucking run minesweeper past 10FPS

#

Wiggle wiggle baby

#

:)

pearl cedar
#

ok chat got cringe im out

fleet canopy
#

lmfao

fleet canopy
paper brook
#

Does anyone know about pc slow internet connection? My pc has been struggling to connect to the WiFi, and I already restarted the modem.

abstract kite
#

Game keeps locking up my pc and I have to hold power button to turn off can’t even control alt delete

#

Played for 8 hours yesterday. Can’t play for 30 mins today

vapid crypt
#

This is the only game doing that?

solid sundial
#

refund it

fleet canopy
#

That is not very PC build help and tech talk of you

abstract kite
#

I knew I should of stayed home and played the new Call of Duty

#

@paper brook if you could give more information on what's happening?

#

so basically RTX 3080 + 9900k overall max power consumption is like 523W ?

fleet canopy
#

Uhh

#

maybe

vapid crypt
#

What is that number based on?

solid sundial
#

@abstract kite

abstract kite
#

A power supply and it giving Watts

solid sundial
#

galerus listen here

abstract kite
#

You little shit*

solid sundial
#

lets say that, hypothetically rtx 3080+9k mp is 524 w ok?

#

so what you're basically saying to me is

#

that 525 w isnt ok?

#

that simply isnt true.

#

okay?

abstract kite
#

She's using my own logic against me

solid sundial
#

there will be no long terms effects

#

the idea that anything will happen

#

is absolutely crazy

#

its just a fact

#

facts dont care about your feelings

abstract kite
#

Silence Wench. I don't wish to be H*y anymore. I just want to be happy.

vapid crypt
#

If there's any power spikes, then it would trip one of the protections of the power supply and shut everything off immediately

solid sundial
#

please fact check demonio

#

my husband is a doctor

#

so hypothetically it would be fine

#

hypothetically speaking if it were to run at 525w

vapid crypt
#

Cool story

abstract kite
#

if it were to run at 525W there is 125W left in my PSU to give out... but i want to have both OCCed on GPU and CPU so i dont think it will work lol..

#

But then in the other hand im not sure if i need extra 2-3 fps for like +200W more lmfao

vapid crypt
#

Its likely okay, I think it would be closer to 575w or something though

sick reef
#

Is this an ongoing gag that I stumbled in on, or have we not realised it is one yet?

vapid crypt
#

Cause remember that 523W number is using a 3950X, which is more efficient and draws less than a 9900K on average

#

It might be similar power draw depending on the clockspeed of the 9900K though, typically people are running that a 5Ghz and up

#

Which typically puts the power draw of the CPU alone at like 200W

#

Max 220W

#

I don't know how the power draw scales with clockspeed, I just know it easily does 200w at around 5Ghz+

vapid crypt
#

It can if its a good unit

#

But that is true

#

For your average unit probably

#

I have a 650w power supply that I don't use anymore that is rated for 589W on the 12v rail

#

That might be the case for the average 650W

#

Yeah its rated for 840w, typically a good unit gets close enough

#

It utilizes the full 750w on all 4 rails

vapid crypt
#

I added things up and got 567w on load, with recommended 617w

#

Its hard to say with how everything boosts though

#

Like a 3950X will easily boost like 2 cores to 4.6Ghz and everything else falls in line to like 4.4Ghz

#

9900K functions similarly

#

@abstract kite

abstract kite
#

sup

#

i see

#

i dont get how it pulls 850W

#

lmao

#

is that stock or OC

vapid crypt
#

Well its not pulling that much

#

That's the recommended power supply for the sake of efficiency curve I guess?

abstract kite
#

k so why does hardware unboxed show pull of 523W total consumption

vapid crypt
#

Okay its not how much its being pulled

#

Like I said phaWesker

abstract kite
#

so its 850W or what

vapid crypt
#

So that's um likely recommended for the sake of efficiency

#

Power Supplies are most efficient when they're drawing around 50 - 70% of their full load

abstract kite
#

ok i went on the site

#

that calculated the P cons

#

shows 608

#

for stock that is...

#

for OC its like 688W

#

9900k + 3080 + 16 gb ddr4 (2666mhz) + kraken x52

#

basic SSD 850Evo

#

2 fans , 1HDD which is 3tb and 7.2k RPM

#

2x sticks that is one of each is 8gb

vapid crypt
#

Only 2 fans?

abstract kite
#
  • i wanna go for MSI one... which takes 3x8 pin
#

yeahh my case is fully FKD up...

#

i had to pull out and leave it open.. to fit shit in it

vapid crypt
#

Oh right

abstract kite
#

😄

vapid crypt
#

That's at stock

#

What are you clocking the 9900K at?

abstract kite
#

5ghz

vapid crypt
#

Yeah that might be out of the question

abstract kite
#

i didnt touch the voltage at all

vapid crypt
#

I think I ran that through the calculator and yeah it was recommending 700W

abstract kite
#

i just enabled the advance settings that let it go 5ghz thats all in bios that is

#

fek i lack 4 W

vapid crypt
#

Um you can see what the voltage is running at under load

abstract kite
#

ok but in all honesty

#

should i keep it at stock

#

cause in all honesty i will probs get 2-5 fps extra right from OC

vapid crypt
#

Uh it might boost well enough at stock

abstract kite
#

Fractal edison

#

yep

#

either way i will see... whats the signs incase it wont be enough?

vapid crypt
#

If your computer shuts off under load

abstract kite
#

does it just shut off like there is power outtage

#

or does it blue screens

vapid crypt
#

Yeah it would likely shut off just without warning

#

That could also be a thermal issue technically

abstract kite
#

ok... whats the max damage that can do to my pc

vapid crypt
#

Its a protection feature in case there's a power spike that the power supply can't handle

abstract kite
#
    • storage and shit
#

i dont care about my data

vapid crypt
#

Its not likely to cause damage, then again if there's a chance that the protection doesn't trip

#

That could cause damage

abstract kite
#

wait wtf it can kill the mobo

#

ur serious

vapid crypt
#

The shut off is a protection from damage

#

If it keeps running, despite not being able to handle the hardware or something goes wrong

#

It could cause damage over time

abstract kite
#

i paid 120€ for my PSU

#

that was back in 2016

vapid crypt
#

Oh its 4 years old...

abstract kite
#

xD yea

vapid crypt
#

I mean at this point swap it out

abstract kite
#

ffs

#

ok fine ill get new psu and case

#

ok ok i made up my mind XD...

#

One question tho... whats the best way to put the thermal paste

#

specfically thermal grizzly kryonaut

vapid crypt
#

Doesn't matter, just don't use too much or too little

#

Yeah Worst case is always catastrophic

#

Even if it isn't likely

fleet canopy
#

Hm.

#

What is going on now?

vapid crypt
#

Worse case, the power supply capacitors burst and catches fire

#

Scary? Absolutely, likely? Probably not

abstract kite
#

OK Im getting new case and psu smh

#

staphhh

fleet canopy
#

If you want to see, you can always check GamerNexus' guide

abstract kite
#

just tell me what is the best way to apply thermal paste

fleet canopy
#

Or just how different applications affect temps

#

But usually you just put in a pea sized blob

#

You're free to spread it yourself if you want, although just putting it on is fine

abstract kite
#

i tried spreading the paste

#

it seems to be

#

not so soft

#

its more on dense part so is it better to spread it

#

should i spread it then put another layer

#

ooor

#

smh

vapid crypt
#

No that would add too much

fleet canopy
#

Just put a pea size blob in middle

#

ye

#

And put CPU cooler on

#

done

abstract kite
#

what is considered small

#

👀

#

is it like

#

| |

#

or

#

| |

fleet canopy
#

Uhh

vapid crypt
#

I mean you could do a line as well

fleet canopy
#

I'm pretty sure you've seen a pea

abstract kite
#

i forget the sizes

vapid crypt
#

It really isn't a big deal

abstract kite
#

just give me like a size refrence here

#

with the symbol

#

| |

vapid crypt
#

Just put enough

fleet canopy
#

Just watch a video on how to build a PC and see how much they put in it then smh

abstract kite
#

see

#

symbol is better

#

| |

fleet canopy
#

The symbol doesn't do shit, I don't think it's the same size for everyone

abstract kite
#

wait wut

#

no i can then put my fingers

vapid crypt
abstract kite
#

verge pc

#

see im unsure how much scale is that

#

cause camera rescales it

#

etc etc

fleet canopy
#

What

#

Literally look at CPU

vapid crypt
#

Eh its fairly easy to tell how big it is

abstract kite
#

CPU IS ALSO RESCALED

fleet canopy
#

And look how much it takes up

abstract kite
#

look smaller

#

than it is

fleet canopy
#

NO IT ISNT

#

SHUT

abstract kite
#

IT IS

odd portalBOT
#

That action was successful. asweeperbot

fleet canopy
#

lole

vapid crypt
#

Fine

fleet canopy
#

He got the mute

eternal cairn
#

LUL

fleet canopy
#

We're free from his nagging now! Yay!

old patrol
#

?

fleet canopy
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Now he'll have to figure it out HIMSELF

sick reef
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Since touch residue can be a factor, I usually use something else to spread with, like some included thing, or something else exterior.

vapid crypt
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Just sweat all over the motherboard, sounds like whenever I build a pc PirateSimon

fallow goblet
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It took me an hour to put in my cpu for the forst time

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I was so scared

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Everything was pretty much fine tho

fleet canopy
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kek

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The only time I got scared were the hard to install/uninstall part

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Like that 24 pin on the motherboard! yaaaay!

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Well it didn't freak me out too much

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But it was something

vapid crypt
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The hardest part was plugging in the EPS cables for the CPU power on the motherboard'

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Since there wasn't a lot of hand space for me

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I cut my knuckles on the heatsink PirateSimon

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Probably easier just to route that cable in reverse tbh

fallow goblet
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SAME @vapid crypt i have the dark rick pro 4 and i could barely fit my hands to plug in those cables

vapid crypt
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I have a pretty standard tower cooler honestly, I think the issue was mostly the opening that's up there

fallow goblet
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Also i just put about a grain of rice worth of paste on the cpu and places my cooler on it and it covered it all equally

vapid crypt
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Its pretty small, so I only just got enough of the cable through

fallow goblet
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I never had to spread

vapid crypt
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Really hard to work with

fallow goblet
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Yea dude

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It would suck if you had one of them ice giant tower coolers

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They are fuckin HUUUGE

vapid crypt
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I would need a new case

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Even if I wanted something like a Pro 4

fleet canopy
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The Dark Rick Pro 4

pearl cedar
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the hardest part about building the pc is to not salivate when holding the 3090 in ur hands

fleet canopy
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Ehh

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3090 is meh

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Unless it's less than 1000$

pearl cedar
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it's no different to a 2080ti in that respect
@abstract kite except its much better

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so yeah kinda

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🤷 if you got the disposable income and want a top of the line gpu, why not

void perch
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are there any places that still have 3080's?

pearl cedar
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the only people who aren't hyped are the ones who can't afford the new gen

eternal cairn
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Like me, @pearl cedar.

void perch
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i'll go looking in a month or two then

void perch
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ugh i look at this threadripper build I have and I'm sooo tempted

abstract kite
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Do it, D0c.

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You know you want to

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I can't believe Nvidia gave The Verge a 3080

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Those dumb motherfuckers will burn that card out xD

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They'll manage to install it backwards.

fleet canopy
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the only people who aren't hyped are the ones who can't afford the new gen
@pearl cedar Yeah I think you're wrong on that PirateSimon

lilac geyser
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i would get one if it turns out to be the best value, but cmon new cards in ~1 month, what's the rush

eternal cairn
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Yeah, I don't see a reason to upgrade immediately other than "to be one of the first".

vapid crypt
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You have to be the first always. Don't you understand, when your life flashes before your eyes don't you want it to be Raytraced

eternal cairn
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🤪

vapid crypt
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Sure, honestly its the best idea to get a small drive for the OS; get a bigger NVME for games or something alongside it

fleet canopy
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Here's some possibly untrue possibly true leak

vapid crypt
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Nice clickbait title, also wait 3090 Ti? phaWesker

fleet canopy
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Does it say 3090 Ti?

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Haven't seen that said anywhere on it

vapid crypt
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Yeah some article showed in the video mentions (maybe Ti)

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Baseless speculation

fleet canopy
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Hm

vapid crypt
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Actually nevermind it might be implying 3080 Ti

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And the guy just assumed it meant 3090 Ti

fleet canopy
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Yeah probably

vapid crypt
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Cause the article says "3090 (or Ti)"

fleet canopy
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Ye

vapid crypt
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It would be crazy for a 256-bit video card to trade blows with a 384-bit

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If its even remotely possible, AMD cracked the fucking code and just made GPUs with high end performance cheaper to make phaWesker

fleet canopy
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I mean

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I guess it's kind of similar with how Ryzen works maybe

vapid crypt
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Assuming adding a fuckton of Cache is cheaper than increase bus width

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I don't understand the cost side of things

fleet canopy
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It doesn't really rely on one thing itself, but rather like relying on the RAM to be faster

vapid crypt
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Well they aren't relying on fast RAM

fleet canopy
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Maybe they figured something out that'll work well idk

vapid crypt
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They're still using 16Gb/s GDDR6

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Which is pretty fast for GDDR6 but its no GDDR6X

fleet canopy
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Yeah

vapid crypt
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It is similar to what they did with Zen 2

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Where they doubled L3 Cache sizes

fleet canopy
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Hm

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What about the cache

vapid crypt
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I believe the bus width and cache stuff though

fleet canopy
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Does anything have to do with it?

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Since they apparently got 128MB L2 cache(?) unlike the 3090 which has like 6mb or something

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they're damned rumors

vapid crypt
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Possible leaks from Redgamingtech pretty much

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Its kind of a coin flip, either they have a new unique cache system that allows 256-bit to compete with traditional higher bus width; or they're going with a 512-bit bus

fleet canopy
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His voice makes me not want to live

vapid crypt
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We've heard both pretty much so

fleet canopy
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It just sounds like every other fake GTAV clickbaiter

vapid crypt
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Sernandoe PirateSimon

fleet canopy
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Sernanduh

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Then there's uhhh

vapid crypt
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I JUST GOT GTA 6 GUYS

fleet canopy
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Fuck knows who else

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He like

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Called rockstar at least 100 times

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Legit

vapid crypt
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He sounds like scuffed Coreteks

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Or like Coreteks if he weren't a smoker

fleet canopy
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Funny I always thought the higher number Navi was the higher end one

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kek

vapid crypt
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Its like placing in a race

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1 is the winner phaSip

fleet canopy
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Yeah but they're kinda confusing so eh

vapid crypt
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Nvidia uses similar naming with their dies

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100 being the largest die, and the smallest die being like 117 or something?

fleet canopy
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Hm

vapid crypt
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With AMD's dies now, they're numbering them based on its size in the stack and its generation

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Since this is second generation RDNA 2, the largest die is 21