#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk
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Yeah, time for an upgrade 
Zen 3
whelp, when i went to bed last night, i didnt realize that the 3080 was going up for sale at like 2 am
and now they are all sold out
If it makes you feel any better your chances were really slim even if you were up at that time
i mean
local NZ retailers
by the sounds it took them around 4 hours to sell out
so i would have had a fairly good chance
ah well, i dont really care all that much
as long as i get one by the time CP2077 comes out
Always have the chance to get one by the time CP2077 Multiplayer releases
probably, i just want my full experience of the game to be in raytraced glory, while maxing out my monitor
which are both things that my current card cant do
I wouldn't be surprised if most of the people that got them were scalpers using scripts to buy them
My store is banning people that resell 3080 at higher cost
how do they know?
Live 3080 overclocking by GN Steve https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72sqldnvmpk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7Xtmayoly8 Linus Sex Tips has copy of Crysis Remastered so here's a video of Remastered vs a 3080 and RTX Titan
I can see everyone on eBay selling RTX 3080s for $1000+.
Supposedly a lot of scalpers resellers have been using some kind of automated script to buy as many RTX 3080s as they can by automating checkouts and sending alerts via email.
Fortunately, it looks like Nvidia is actually manually verifying all of the purchases and weeding out all of the scalpers.
Unless the preorder is found on NVIDIA's site somehow
I doubt it.
Our company basically requires membership and proof of verification if you plan to buy RTX 3080. Anyone that tries to resell it at a higher value has their account blacklisted, if the card comes back to the store with a different owner. The other owner is basically screwed and has to go through RMA with the third party brand. We basically have the list of serial numbers in the POS/ERP system when the card is purchased.
Banish all the price gougers
New egg is completely sold out, the only one I saw in stock as an MSI ventus model at Best Buy
Probably all out now
People aren't waiting for the 3080 Ti? 
3090 super ? 😈
3660 super 
LOL
1660 supers are decent to have lol
till they get slapped by 5600 XT and also be glad not to purchase 2070/2080s
Thank god that my 2060 is my temporary graphics card now that new shit is being released
im still happily gaming on a GTX 1060m
Same with me, but a 1070.
still on my 1080ti, till the 3080 restocks in like a month 😦
ill be on 1060m until probably next gen after 3080
can anyone confirm that the drivers improved the performance of the cards?
Not without extensive testing, don't they always say that when they update game ready drivers or whatever?
@restive garnet poor you! cant imagine having to play on a gtx 1080 ti... you should honestly contact your local human rights movement!
im on a 2080 till I can get my hands on a 3080 😉
omg!!
ive tracked your location, and a 10 squads of highly trained spetznas units are coming to rescue you in 5 minutes unix time!
Just someone trying to be funny
An attempt was made, for sure
I am ded
Yep
Can we get this chat back on topic please?
@solid sundial @nimble anvil Mind your manners. We don't tolerate trolling and uncivilized behavior on the server. Telling someone to 'stfu' and asking for nudes is definitely in violation of our rules. I highly recommend you read them again, thoroughly.
k
💙
{3
i'm surprised I've never ran into a fat heart like that before
Only bad boys get it like me
@solid sundial unix time doesnt know minutes
" the spetznas is there to save you at 1600618080" would be correct
So according to Nvidia they're shipping out to retailers on a daily basis, and verifying every purchase through their store. I hope for the sake of them not getting in the hands of scalpers that's true 
Nah, they're all gonna be got by scalpers and sold for $1,000,000 each
I've just preordered the MSI Trio X. It's like £100 more than the standard price, but at this point I just want a damn card
I ordered 2 just in case and I can't cancel one of them because the website and phone line are broke lmao
Can't even Nvlink em... not that it would be useful but still 
If I get 2 cards I'll probably just sell it off at the same price as I got it for. I don't care about making a profit at this point. I'd rather someone just be happy they got one too
Or sell it for like a bit less than the MSRP
Hey now I don't expect people to run a charity with their graphics cards 
I'm not selling it for a loss lol
I'm not selling it for a loss lol
@nimble anvil ill give u 20$, deal?
51$ here
52$
52.01$
I'll give my 2070 Super
I
Surely the performance can't be that bad on a 2070 Super?
I mean the game isn't out yet, but It'll most likely be fine
$5 is the lowest I'd go
I mean
I do want RTX
Maybe it's just cause I tried it on RTX quake which again goes 100% on everything
Although for going 36FPS on a 1440p monitor it isn't too bad
Most games aren't maxing out that level of ray tracing yet
Quake 2 was used as an example of what could be done eventually with full path tracing and reflections
So more like a demo?
Turing doesn't do it too well, Ampere improves on it a lot
That no one could run more than 60FPS on
Part of the reason why they doubled shaders, I think the extra shaders are handling the RT instructions
From what I understand on Turing, when the shaders are doing RT; they only do RT. Its why there's a performance loss
Cause now you have a good chunk of the shaders not handling the rasterization
Where as now with Ampere they can kinda switch between the two on the fly
That's what AMD's cards are gonna be doing from what I've heard, so they should be better than Turing possibly
Ah, I see
Ampere and Vulkan being open standards to implement will hopefully drive competition in the market. Nvidia needs the competition in order to not end up with an antitrust lawsuit on their hands.
If every game requires RT and only Turing cores could handle it then they’d wind up with an effective monopoly and only certain games run on certain cards and it just makes a whole big mess.
I don't see that happening anytime soon
Games that can only run on RT supporting hardware that is
Rolling stones sound guy came in the store
It’s just a good move for nvidia. They get to be the good guys and have a seat at the table and help guide the conversation instead of everyone else ganging up on them
Because that would happen if they didn’t maintain an open standard
They release the API and keep their proprietary implementation of it
Oh so devs don't have to partner with Nvidia?
@dense wasp didnt you get hooked up by Noctua?
No they don’t really have to. Every system has their own competing standard like DX11/12 vs apple metal vs OpenGL
Vulkan hopes to unify them by defining the API to use a common set. It’s kind of what OpenGL tried to do a while back
But OpenGL was started by silicon graphics and maintained open source but didn’t really get a chance to compete with DX
Looks like Kronos group is still handling Vulkan. But it’s designed for multi core cpus while OpenGL and DX don’t scale properly
And is entirely cross platform across mobile devices as well
Yes
Vulkan is an API
Vulkan is an api, yes
how is the first an open standard? Speaking of Ampere
@proper wren Yeah, why? 🙂
The first isn’t an open standard I realize my statement was confusing but I didn’t mean that ampere and Vulkan were both open
we got partnerships with all the big dudes in one form or another @vapid crypt
Curious lol
I didn't ask, but thanks for the info 
Nice.
Right now they really need to have partnerships with the big dudes
The sound engineer guy from rolling stones basically gave me $15K budget and told me to build a system for him to do sound audio lol
Oh so devs don't have to partner with Nvidia?
@vapid crypt
ah, I read this as "the devs" = us
🙂
Ludvig are you going Zen 3 lol
@dense wasp BTW if 10 chambers ever needs another engineer raises hand sheepishly
I’m really hoping unity capitalizes on the UE/Apple drama
So, how about the price gouging on eBay?
Anybody else see the RTX 3080 cards selling for $1000+?
I just ignore them. There’s no point
Supposedly, someone is making alt accounts to inflate the prices so high that nobody would actually bid for them.
I've only seen the ones where they're $10k+ cause people are trolling the scalpers
I love it!
ebay has always been like that for any goods lol.
And there is always people buying somehow
They're selling for that high, but obviously they're not getting it
Someone got lucky and sold their RTX 2080 for $650 the day before the 3080 launched.
There is absolutely no point in ditching your current setup if you can play games reasonably. Wait till Rocket Lake + 30xti series comes out
I saw a drawing of a 3080 that said "Fuck E-bay for supporting Scalpers" selling for over 30k 
"selling"
lolno
2d waifus
The new cards can hardly accomplish 144 fps at 4k. LOL
I feel like that was sort of a letdown with this generation of cards.
nvm people are trying to sell 3080 for $2000s now lol
Those are people scalping the price scalpers, @proper wren.
Yeah I know nothing can actually do 144hz 4K anyways
Probably could with DLSS
Wouldn't it be amazing if there was something that could though?
I guess
The new cards can hardly accomplish 144 fps at 4k. LOL
@eternal cairn the 3080 can only get 36.5FPS on crysis remaster
Linus ran the new Crisis Remaster with the 3080
Yikes.
Doesn't the raw performance almost get there in Doom Eternal?
I think he said he was a little bit disappointed but he did say it wasn't like the final build so they might still put out things that are crazy difficult to run
Oof.
30series = pleasing investors
My friend is playing it right now on the 2080ti
Until Nvidia cancels the price scalpers' and botters' orders.
1440p @144hz in CIRC mode
Did they give out like a uhh
What's CIRC mode?
Early access key?
Can it run crysis
Ohh.
It’s a setting that enables ray tracing
And other things
The 2080ti is not obsolete for 1440p
It’s certainly no chump
It depends on the possible framerate, really.
2080ti is still a good card to have... within the price range
The same can be said with any card. LOL
Even now, with how it's 400$ to be found
I only have 60hz monitors
There’s absolutely no point in higher frames
Sure depends on the resolution, right now I see no reason to go up from my 580 as long as I'm running 1080p
For me
Fair enough
10 series and 16 series be like 
Probably doesn't have much longer though
Unless you love scrolling
My next goal is to get 1440p at 144 hz just because both have 144 in them.
Then get 144hz for epic scrolling 😎
I like scrolling.
^^^
But screen tearing is pretty bad.
My eyes hurt sometimes when I scroll
I have 4K monitors that I run at 1440
I'm running 1440p 144hz with rx 570 4gb lol
there's barely any screen tear on my 1440p 60hz IPS
Wow talk about filling out the card 
At least not that I know of
buried my 2070
Guess you'll settle for a 3070
My MBP has a 560x 4gb
btw mayo
Yes?
lole
I got it before the Vegas came out :’(
Poor kid
Oh
he had rx 580 before it
That's kinda exploitative ngl 
I'm looking at him like, are you serious? Just for Fortnite?
LUL
yep
My daughter uses a Radeon VII for roblox
You got yourself easy money for a 3070 at least
I mean, if they were offering. (Don't take that suggestively.)
waiting for 3060 ti
So I mean it’s whatever
I use a 3700X, 2070 Super and 32GB of ram for minesweeper
It’s my old RVII
Its fine for 1440
yeah but for futureproof no doubt it'll last much long anyways
RTX-3070-Super-16-GB
Maybe, depends on your fps target
Guessing the super cards are workstation use
I mean
If you’re getting a 30x, I’d suggest waiting until rocket lake processors land
When motherboards will have PCIE 4.0
Or just get Zen 3 
I'm AMD Simp
Like I'd def go for a 3070 or something if I wanted
Zen 3 is next month what do you mean 
My kids use ryzen 3600s. is meh
only like 10% of the people in the store buy 10th gen intel cpus
I'm more interested in what AMD has though for their GPU
only for htpc
You're underselling the 3600
I have both intel and ryzen cpus. 3 kids with their own pc builds. It’s honestly meh
It’s not bad by any means
It's not really meh
Hardly meh though
But the 9700 i7 is also only $250
What?
So
Impossible!
let me see the deals rn
It's been as low for $150
^
it can go lower
3600 at 160$ or lower is great
Right now it hasn't been on sale
Next month I could see it getting that low and lower in November
And you can def trust AMD to lower it even further unlike intel 
maybe not, but like it could go lower at some point
Only reason 9700K even gets as low as $250 is cause of the 10600K
9700KF is 129
What the fuck is "Masters" "Apprentice" and "Legends"?
^
What are those prices?
Partnered with intel la
No idea but
And what does it mean
I'm not suppose to show them too
Nice maybe you should remove it then 
ye
169 for 9900kf is not bad though
Hmm indeed.
No not at all
I'm debating on it but at the same time there's zen 3
That's a special price that your average person can't get however
wait let me see AMD program
I guess I'll go back to playing Skate 2 then
On mobile?
amd has nothing in their stores that are good currently 
LUL
Won't be a great price until next month pretty much
I see a bunch of sony tvs and hi sense tvs
Sony doesn't make TVs anymore.
their XBR Series
They sold off all their other departments so they could focus on gaming (which was a stupid decision).
from 2017
Okay, that makes sense.
Nucs?
Intel NUCs
Yeah, what are those?
Oh.
Its basically a simple board with a card slotting into it if I recall correctly
I suppose they haven't released Ice Lake Nucs yet 

Hm.
Who wants a review of a 7 year old videocard https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FT7POrtzilY 
I run Nucs at home, they're actually really fast
at least the skull canyon one I have
@meager umbra you do engineering then? 🙂
@meager umbra you do engineering then? 🙂
@dense wasp yeah I’m a SDE by trade and I used to write flight controller firmware
ah, neat,
You enjoy it?
Not to be a simp, but it's pretty cool that as a developer you hang out with the community :) @dense wasp
not simping at all, haha
I mean, I don't really see the point with having a neat community, if you don't hang out with it 🤷♂️ 😅
❤️ I PMed you @dense wasp
And it is great to see devs hanging out in the community for the game they are developing. It’s not as common of an occurrence as one would hope or assume

true this is what makes the dev great 😄
ludvig hands down well in general entire team is my fav dev team since evolve game aka 2K game devs... well in general Evolve devs i call them... but yeah GTFO devs = best ❤️
Agreed
Either way im here to ask.. can anyone tell me whats the total power consumption on rtx 3080 + 9900k or even 3080 + 10900k
oh just link vid then
i watched a vid on "for gamers"
and it shown it being like 606W total on all stock
Uh probably
Kinda hitting the line, keep in mind the 3950X is more efficient than the 9900K
Shit its more efficient than the 3900X
either way im fine with OCCing both to like mid OC right and keeping it at like 600W
so i need only new Case right...
If you're considering a new case why not get a better power supply while you're at it?
Or undervolt GPU
Sure Undervolting could probably work
@vapid crypt i know what ur doing 👀 putting me in check mate with that question...
By how much though
Couldn't say
if i say now.. i dont have enough money to buy the new case + PSU.... u will say.. OH HOW do u have money for an RTX 3080
isnt that right 
I don't know the stock voltages of a 3080
Let alone an AIB card
Which are gonna crank up voltages and clocks out of the box
ok basically i dont have 100€ extra to buy a new PSU 
i had to waste money on multiple things.. from my savings that is... one of it is corona fault, other is family issues... so thats already 300€
You could stick the clockspeed at stock boost and lower the voltage, takes some tweeking
soo im 300€ in minus from like my savings due to whole situation...
But it would make it more efficient, maybe only cost like 10% of the performance
I mean i can technically get more money from selling my PSU + GPU seperatly
Could you? What are you looking to get for them together?
idk in my country which is croatia our tech prices didnt go down xD
so yeah keep that in mind
so im looking to get around 200€ which is 300$
That's not as high as I thought actually
I would probably ask like $250 for something like that
eh its both old
i got an option to wait and get lucky from selling my entire pc... and get new pc for 2200€
or just like buy a new case and use that power supply until i get paychecks n shit..
why would people buy new graphics cards with other new cards coming out so soon?
unless they wouldnt have even considerd buying the other brand, in which case i call them fanboys (with maximum predjuice on the word fanboy in this case)
yes and?
(not that i am agreeing with you)
unless they wouldnt have even considerd buying the other brand, in which case i call them fanboys (with maximum predjuice on the word fanboy in this case)
@lilac geyser aint my fault nvidia always ahead of amd
🤷
but you dont know yet?
no trust me, i come from the future
ok so we have one person who cant articulate their point, and another claiming to be from the future. i can't accept either of this answers as valid counterpoints
So get this. My friend brought his computer to geek squad because his computer was over heating and shutting off. They had his computer for three weeks and they gave him news on his computer.
That nothing was wrong with it.

Haven't he/you learned that any tech support can go fuck right out of the window?
geek squad are elites dont fuck with them
I would >:(
i did 🙂
yes they did
at least we have ssds now and many more manufacturers to choose from
unrelated to them lying, WD is the only HD manufacturer that had a drive die on me while still in the warranty period
3060 has been rumored for this year, but we also know the 3060Ti has been spec'd
So that might be the one we're getting instead
But that's easily gonna be $400
So then what should we expect the 3060 and 3060 Ti to perform like?
Probably on par with a 2070 or 20% more than the 2060.
That wouldn't really make so much sense though
The 3070 is on par with 2080 Ti, 3080 does the same FPS in 1440p as the 2080 Ti does in 1080p
But how low could Nvidia go on the price of the 3060?
Like
300$
3080 is 700$, 3070 is 500$, it'd make sense for 3060 to be 300$
I guess they'll have Ti variants, 3060 Ti being 400$, 3070 Ti being 600$, and 3080 Ti being 800$ which ain't happening
you people are like drug addicts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DKVVtirNM8 3080 tested on PCIe 4.0 vs PCIe 3.0 x16, plus a discussion on Intel vs AMD for 3080 which I think we all know what it is by then
lol
these cards arent even out yet and you want the next one
I thought they were?
Only the 3080 is.
Next month is the 3070.
ha
Nvidia is just as bland with their naming as Sony.
All they do is just change a number at the end of the brand.
you can get the XXX series, or the YYYY series. intel tried the ZZZZZ series and they are getting made fun of
"Radeon 5700XT"
They're getting made fun of because they're so fucking bad at naming CPUs even the CEO himself can't remember what the fuck it's called
Like holy damn how is anyone supposed to know the numbers lmfao
The 3060Ti from the leaked specs is going to be a cutdown 3070
So probably around 20% less performance, it has like 10 less SMS
Somewhere inbetween a 2080 and 2080Super I guess?
Eh, not too bad
But then that means the 3060 is basically a 2070/Super
With better RT ig
Also I prefer a bland name than a confusing one tbh 
Xbox, Xbox 360, Xbox One... you lost me
Xbox One S
Xbox One X
What the fuck is the better one
No one knows
Sony's got it perfectly nice
PS
PS2
PS3
That action was successful. 
It's kind of funny to think like hundreds of years from now, people might look back on the Xbox brand in some way and possibly not understand which was the first console
since simple is bad, Intel with their 11gen CPU's are ahead of everybody
damn did the ps4 get purged
There never was a ps4. It was all an imagination
its all ps5?
always has been.
3080 vs 3090 benchmarks apparently. looks like my 15% prediction is rather accurate 😄
anyone here in Oce?
been looking to find a site to like buy 3080
or is the 3080 halted?
LoL
It's better to just wait to get the 3000 series of cards tbh.
The 3080 cane out like 2 months after i bought a 2070 super, looks like im waiting for the 4080 or some shit
Fuck me dude
Lmao
The 2070 super has been a beast lately tho, but maybe thats cuz i used to play on integrated on my laptop
2070 have aged and refined drivers. Now for $600-$700 is a rip off.
All the 2080 ti owners paying 1200$ instead 500$ right before price leaks revealed
How the fuck did so many people do this
We live in a society
All the people panic selling and they weren't able to get a 3080 
Now they gotta buy back a 2080Ti at a loss probably
Or settle for using a weaker card that they probably have on hand if they're smart like that
yesterdays video of gamersnexus was good. I like that he was basically shocked what pc enthusiast became
I don't know if he's surprised or merely disappointed
Disappointed
Is it the video where he's comparing Gen 3 to Gen 4 PCIe?
Cause I haven't seen it yet
the day before, the one talking about the supply
the gen 3 vs 4 i just skipped a bit through. sometimes 3% difference in fps
I figured that would be about the difference if there ever is one
Are you fucking kidding me right now?
Still though
You buy a 3080 to then try to sell it at a premium?
no that isn't it you dummy
Someone's made a bot to set this shit to like
A high stupid number so no one buys it
And the guy trying to sell it won't get any money for it
Bitwit Kyle said something that kinda shocked me "At this point I would pay $2000 for one if I couldn't get one." That's unthinkable to me tbh 
lol no way am I spending 2000$ on a card that's supposed to be 700$
Imagine paying more for a 3080 than what a 3090 will be sold for
Yeah
Imagine paying for a 3080 that's more than 100$ MSRP
Or 200$
Since the 3090 is supposed to be like,
1200$?
I think so around there
Plus the 3090 will probably be easier to buy because everyone already bought the 3080
Nah i think so
You're not gonna run that on a R5 3600
3090 is supposed to be $1500
That's what Nvidia says, I think they're just upselling a 3080Ti and justifying a price hike by changing the name 
But then i realized my monitor was 1080p so i bought a 2070 super
I know that the specs are similar to what you would get from a Titan
To be fair
12GB?
And what it will eventually be
Just 2 more GB than a 3080
Isnt the 2080ti 12?
Well its not just the Vram its also the memory bus
Or is it 11
11
Yea
384-bit
But the cards are coming out are like, coming with for instance 3070 will get a 10GB and 20GB version
I mean 8/16*
But you get the idea
Yea
So what's the 3080 Ti supposed to be at this point
I just need a monitor that my PC can actually use
Like I said it'll be 3090 with half the Vram, and probably 2 less SMs
I havent really looked into the 3000 series
Hahahaha
l o l e
You know there will be like 3 people that does that
I heard of some dude using a 2080ti with a really old 1080p monitor
if u dont got a 4k monitor dont get a 3090
And he was like a tech journalist or something
There's a 1440p 240Hz
Honestly just get the 3080 if you really need that level of performance
240 hz is not noticably different than 144hz. At least not as noticable as 60>>>144
At least there is iirc from Jackfrags
We're talking 15% for half the price
Yeah like always
Err double the price even
The highest end just gets a bad price to performance
And the next highest is pretty much way better
I got a 1080p 165 hz
Like that 2080 vs 2080 Ti
I like it a lot
1080p is for noobs, sorry
Nah i have been playing on 1080p my whole life, i dont need 4k
It's for esports nerds
Im happy with 1080p
switch to 1440p 144hz it will change ur life bud
Nah
Yea but still
My brother's played 1080p all his life
1080 is a good res
And he's tried my 1440p on rust, was really surprised with how good it looked
I'll go to 1440 when I get a new card
1440 is 1000% better than 1080
Maybe
You really have to try out 1440p at least once
Once i get more money saved
I doubt its that much better though
I doubt its that much better though
@vapid crypt no, it is
I mean i could always use my 1080p monitor as a second one
It's really good for nice visuals in games and/or you know, uhhh
Probably more so 1440 to 4k where there's nearly no difference from what Ive heard anyway
Yea i just hopped on the rust train, im fuckin addicted so
Like you probably won't see anyone too far too well on a 1080p
if u play any remotely graphic intense games, 1440p will look orgasmic compared to 1080
ive played on 1440 for a couple years now and if I switch to 1080 my eyes fuckin hurt
why would i register on the website
It's just a newsletter thing
Tru
Only real reason people got it was for beta key 
Alpha key here 
Didnt know it existed until R3
R4 needs to drop soon
1080p versus 1440p is a whole hell of a difference on the same size, 1080p 24" vs 1440p 24"
And if you do play competitive games or whatever, you get a bigger view than 1080p
ok chat got cringe im out
lmfao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5mvFqnfBCg JayzTwoCents and Phil talk about the crappy RTX 3080 launch and go in detail about the bot problem
Does anyone know about pc slow internet connection? My pc has been struggling to connect to the WiFi, and I already restarted the modem.
Game keeps locking up my pc and I have to hold power button to turn off can’t even control alt delete
Played for 8 hours yesterday. Can’t play for 30 mins today
This is the only game doing that?
If it is, I would suggest getting help at #gtfo-technical-support
refund it
That is not very PC build help and tech talk of you
I knew I should of stayed home and played the new Call of Duty
@paper brook if you could give more information on what's happening?
so basically RTX 3080 + 9900k overall max power consumption is like 523W ?
What is that number based on?
@abstract kite
A power supply and it giving Watts
galerus listen here
You little shit*
lets say that, hypothetically rtx 3080+9k mp is 524 w ok?
so what you're basically saying to me is
that 525 w isnt ok?
that simply isnt true.
okay?
She's using my own logic against me
there will be no long terms effects
the idea that anything will happen
is absolutely crazy
its just a fact
facts dont care about your feelings
Silence Wench. I don't wish to be H*y anymore. I just want to be happy.
If there's any power spikes, then it would trip one of the protections of the power supply and shut everything off immediately
please fact check demonio
my husband is a doctor
so hypothetically it would be fine
hypothetically speaking if it were to run at 525w
Cool story
if it were to run at 525W there is 125W left in my PSU to give out... but i want to have both OCCed on GPU and CPU so i dont think it will work lol..
But then in the other hand im not sure if i need extra 2-3 fps for like +200W more lmfao
Its likely okay, I think it would be closer to 575w or something though
Is this an ongoing gag that I stumbled in on, or have we not realised it is one yet?
Cause remember that 523W number is using a 3950X, which is more efficient and draws less than a 9900K on average
It might be similar power draw depending on the clockspeed of the 9900K though, typically people are running that a 5Ghz and up
Which typically puts the power draw of the CPU alone at like 200W
Max 220W
I don't know how the power draw scales with clockspeed, I just know it easily does 200w at around 5Ghz+
It can if its a good unit
But that is true
For your average unit probably
I have a 650w power supply that I don't use anymore that is rated for 589W on the 12v rail
That might be the case for the average 650W
Yeah its rated for 840w, typically a good unit gets close enough
Here's a shot of my current psu
It utilizes the full 750w on all 4 rails
I added things up and got 567w on load, with recommended 617w
Its hard to say with how everything boosts though
Like a 3950X will easily boost like 2 cores to 4.6Ghz and everything else falls in line to like 4.4Ghz
9900K functions similarly
@abstract kite
Well its not pulling that much
That's the recommended power supply for the sake of efficiency curve I guess?
k so why does hardware unboxed show pull of 523W total consumption
so its 850W or what
So that's um likely recommended for the sake of efficiency
Power Supplies are most efficient when they're drawing around 50 - 70% of their full load
ok i went on the site
that calculated the P cons
shows 608
for stock that is...
for OC its like 688W
9900k + 3080 + 16 gb ddr4 (2666mhz) + kraken x52
basic SSD 850Evo
2 fans , 1HDD which is 3tb and 7.2k RPM
2x sticks that is one of each is 8gb
Only 2 fans?
- i wanna go for MSI one... which takes 3x8 pin
yeahh my case is fully FKD up...
i had to pull out and leave it open.. to fit shit in it
Oh right
😄
5ghz
Yeah that might be out of the question
i didnt touch the voltage at all
I think I ran that through the calculator and yeah it was recommending 700W
i just enabled the advance settings that let it go 5ghz thats all in bios that is
fek i lack 4 W
Um you can see what the voltage is running at under load
ok but in all honesty
should i keep it at stock
cause in all honesty i will probs get 2-5 fps extra right from OC
Uh it might boost well enough at stock
Fractal edison
yep
either way i will see... whats the signs incase it wont be enough?
If your computer shuts off under load
Yeah it would likely shut off just without warning
That could also be a thermal issue technically
ok... whats the max damage that can do to my pc
Its a protection feature in case there's a power spike that the power supply can't handle
Its not likely to cause damage, then again if there's a chance that the protection doesn't trip
That could cause damage
The shut off is a protection from damage
If it keeps running, despite not being able to handle the hardware or something goes wrong
It could cause damage over time
Oh its 4 years old...
xD yea
I mean at this point swap it out
ffs
ok fine ill get new psu and case
ok ok i made up my mind XD...
One question tho... whats the best way to put the thermal paste
specfically thermal grizzly kryonaut
Doesn't matter, just don't use too much or too little
Yeah Worst case is always catastrophic
Even if it isn't likely
Worse case, the power supply capacitors burst and catches fire
Scary? Absolutely, likely? Probably not
If you want to see, you can always check GamerNexus' guide
Or just how different applications affect temps
But usually you just put in a pea sized blob
You're free to spread it yourself if you want, although just putting it on is fine
i tried spreading the paste
it seems to be
not so soft
its more on dense part so is it better to spread it
should i spread it then put another layer
ooor
smh
No that would add too much
Uhh
I mean you could do a line as well
I'm pretty sure you've seen a pea
i forget the sizes
It really isn't a big deal
Just put enough
Just watch a video on how to build a PC and see how much they put in it then smh
The symbol doesn't do shit, I don't think it's the same size for everyone
verge pc
see im unsure how much scale is that
cause camera rescales it
etc etc
Eh its fairly easy to tell how big it is
CPU IS ALSO RESCALED
And look how much it takes up
IT IS
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lole
Fine
He got the mute
LUL
We're free from his nagging now! Yay!
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Since touch residue can be a factor, I usually use something else to spread with, like some included thing, or something else exterior.
Just sweat all over the motherboard, sounds like whenever I build a pc 
It took me an hour to put in my cpu for the forst time
I was so scared
Everything was pretty much fine tho
kek
The only time I got scared were the hard to install/uninstall part
Like that 24 pin on the motherboard! yaaaay!
Well it didn't freak me out too much
But it was something
The hardest part was plugging in the EPS cables for the CPU power on the motherboard'
Since there wasn't a lot of hand space for me
I cut my knuckles on the heatsink 
Probably easier just to route that cable in reverse tbh
SAME @vapid crypt i have the dark rick pro 4 and i could barely fit my hands to plug in those cables
I have a pretty standard tower cooler honestly, I think the issue was mostly the opening that's up there
Also i just put about a grain of rice worth of paste on the cpu and places my cooler on it and it covered it all equally
Its pretty small, so I only just got enough of the cable through
I never had to spread
Really hard to work with
Yea dude
It would suck if you had one of them ice giant tower coolers
They are fuckin HUUUGE
The Dark Rick Pro 4
the hardest part about building the pc is to not salivate when holding the 3090 in ur hands
it's no different to a 2080ti in that respect
@abstract kite except its much better
so yeah kinda
🤷 if you got the disposable income and want a top of the line gpu, why not
are there any places that still have 3080's?
the only people who aren't hyped are the ones who can't afford the new gen
Like me, @pearl cedar.
i'll go looking in a month or two then
ugh i look at this threadripper build I have and I'm sooo tempted
Do it, D0c.
You know you want to
I can't believe Nvidia gave The Verge a 3080
Those dumb motherfuckers will burn that card out xD
They'll manage to install it backwards.
the only people who aren't hyped are the ones who can't afford the new gen
@pearl cedar Yeah I think you're wrong on that
i would get one if it turns out to be the best value, but cmon new cards in ~1 month, what's the rush
Yeah, I don't see a reason to upgrade immediately other than "to be one of the first".
You have to be the first always. Don't you understand, when your life flashes before your eyes don't you want it to be Raytraced

🤪
Sure, honestly its the best idea to get a small drive for the OS; get a bigger NVME for games or something alongside it
Nice clickbait title, also wait 3090 Ti? 
Hm
Actually nevermind it might be implying 3080 Ti
And the guy just assumed it meant 3090 Ti
Yeah probably
Cause the article says "3090 (or Ti)"
Ye
It would be crazy for a 256-bit video card to trade blows with a 384-bit
If its even remotely possible, AMD cracked the fucking code and just made GPUs with high end performance cheaper to make 
Assuming adding a fuckton of Cache is cheaper than increase bus width
I don't understand the cost side of things
It doesn't really rely on one thing itself, but rather like relying on the RAM to be faster
Well they aren't relying on fast RAM
Maybe they figured something out that'll work well idk
Yeah
I believe the bus width and cache stuff though
Does anything have to do with it?
Since they apparently got 128MB L2 cache(?) unlike the 3090 which has like 6mb or something
they're damned rumors
Possible leaks from Redgamingtech pretty much
Its kind of a coin flip, either they have a new unique cache system that allows 256-bit to compete with traditional higher bus width; or they're going with a 512-bit bus
His voice makes me not want to live
We've heard both pretty much so
It just sounds like every other fake GTAV clickbaiter
Sernandoe 
I JUST GOT GTA 6 GUYS
Yeah but they're kinda confusing so eh
Nvidia uses similar naming with their dies
100 being the largest die, and the smallest die being like 117 or something?
Hm




