#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk | GTFO | Page 143

vapid crypt Sep 6, 2020, 2:30 AM

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Eh I mean that's kind of falling off with Intel

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I think people are recognizing Ryzen as a pretty good alternative, and by people I mean normies PirateSimon

fleet canopy Sep 6, 2020, 2:31 AM

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Well yeah, AMD is really hitting the CPU market hard and good. But there’s still people with that mindset of “Intel good amd bad”

vapid crypt Sep 6, 2020, 2:31 AM

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Though notice I said Ryzen and not AMD; normies know Ryzen but not AMD. They might remember AMD as the trashfire that was Bulldozer

eternal cairn Sep 6, 2020, 2:31 AM

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That's only people who are too dense to look at product specs.

fleet canopy Sep 6, 2020, 2:31 AM

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And Intel with their crappy dumb advertising

copper zealot Sep 6, 2020, 4:10 AM

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AMD and Nvidia both apparently get affected by windows 10 driver verifier though. I went through hell only to find out it was the built in crap causing crazy lag and other issues

vapid crypt Sep 6, 2020, 4:19 AM

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Sounds about right

rancid kindle Sep 6, 2020, 4:27 AM

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alright people

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its been awhile

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good to see youre all still helping out ❤️

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my moms friend needs a new laptop for her daughter and of course my mom told her "oh my son has a computer he can help you" so here i am asking for yall help. this was the "requirements" i was given:
This is what she needs:

Laptop
Tough, because she is rough with things
“Responsive” touch pad
Capable of driving 2external monitors (2 HDMI ports)
Min 1 Terabyte hard drive
“Reasonably fast” processor
Windows 10 compatible
Camera, microphone & built-in speakers for video classes
Headphone jack
Very good HD video streaming (loves dancing to K-pop)
Screen around 16 or 17 inches (not less than 15.5)
A touch-screen is a bonus, but not necessary
WIFI & Bluetooth
Min 4 “up-to-date” USB ports
DVD Drive (CD drive is a bonus)
LAN port

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id appreciate any help lmao as i dont even know where to begin with this

eternal cairn Sep 6, 2020, 4:30 AM

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The fact that she has very specific specifications makes me think she'd be better off with a desktop.

rancid kindle Sep 6, 2020, 4:31 AM

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ikr but this daughter has learning disabilities and whatnot so a laptop was preferred

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shes.... i wanna say 14? so were talking ab nothing too crazy

eternal cairn Sep 6, 2020, 4:33 AM

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Oh, makes sense.

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If you asked me 5 years ago, I probably would have had some somewhat decent recommendations.

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But most laptops aren't very indestructible.

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As for the processor, probably something with an i7 would suffice.

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Also, for "video streaming", do you mean like live-streaming or watching videos?

fleet canopy Sep 6, 2020, 4:43 AM

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I assume it’s just having videos not be fucky but eh

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A responsive touch pad, I dunno. Pretty sure they wear down over time because they’re bullshit like that and won’t be so responsive anymore

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Better to get a mouse for that, could find a 10$ mouse that would be good

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFHBgb9SY1Y

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I can’t believe just how bad the whole Intel thing is

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Intel is literally just burning themselves in a fucking fire at this point ._.

dense wasp Sep 6, 2020, 8:44 AM

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What did they do now @fleet canopy ? 😅

abstract kite Sep 6, 2020, 1:21 PM

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the build is done

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costs 2,400€

fleet canopy Sep 6, 2020, 4:00 PM

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@dense wasp the video I linked above is GamersNexus talking about Intel’s uhhhh whatever it was. Their 11th gen naming is bad lol.

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It’s just full of horrible comparisons like how the 4800U is way slow when in reality it’s pretty great. And there’s no “11th gen vs previous gen” comparisons, just “Intel Gen CPU” vs 4800U

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Then they called AMD imitators which is not really that true I guess

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GN then reviewed Intel’s 11th gen keynote reveal vs NVIDIA’s, where Intel is high in “4800U”, “AMD” and any of the sort related to AMD, while low in Intel’s things. Only once has the Intel thing been mentioned lmao. While NVIDIA’s was all next gen vs previous gens, and absolutely nothing to do with AMD or any insults against them. Which is what Intel should have done but they’re just even greedier fucks with really bad and obviously fake comparisons to competition, once again like “4800U - 1.0” and the whatever shit name Intel CPU is, “>Insert dumb Intel cpu name< - 28%+”

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With the Intel comparisons, there was “28% better than competition” in whatever it was, “63%+ better than competition” again, no idea what since I remember nothing, then they were like “4X better than competition” in AI, like we can tell they can’t make a cpu that’s 20-60% better and have 4X better in another part like AI if they’re much lower than 4X in other benchmarks

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And the funny thing is that none of the Intel CPUs you see have anything above 4 cores lmao

jade ermine Sep 6, 2020, 4:39 PM

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ZMT tubing 🙏

abstract kite Sep 6, 2020, 4:51 PM

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anyone know when is ryzen 4000 getting released

fleet canopy Sep 6, 2020, 5:01 PM

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Before 2021

vapid crypt Sep 6, 2020, 5:03 PM

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Probably November

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Maybe October

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Big Navi will come out at the same time

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I think there's a really good chance we'll have an event from AMD after benchmarks start rolling out of RTX 30 from reviewers

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That makes sense to me in order to keep hype for their products launching soon

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I've seen people saying the opposite for the same reason

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Its all speculation and BS anyway

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And yeah uh no AIBs on Launch I think

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The reason there hasn't been any concrete leaks is cause AIBs are practically in the dark too

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They only have info on Navi 22

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The cooler they teased looks decent, probably not meant for the highest chip

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No it isn't

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Scott Herkelman confirmed that awhile ago

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It'll be fine, I think it'll be better than the FE Turing coolers

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Which were just okay I guess, to borderline Meh depending on the card

abstract kite Sep 6, 2020, 5:24 PM

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isnt it going to be released mid this month

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amd cpus

vapid crypt Sep 6, 2020, 5:39 PM

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There hasn't been any official mention yet

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But like I said I think they will have an event to talk about their products as a response to Nvidia

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Like once they know the performance of RTX 30, they'll show their stuff

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As for launch, I can see everything rolling out in October

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At the earliest anyway

fleet canopy Sep 6, 2020, 5:41 PM

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September is still quite new, we could get them September 20-30

vapid crypt Sep 6, 2020, 5:42 PM

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I think the graphics cards will be October at the earliest then, but anyway um sure they tend to announce a week or two prior so

abstract kite Sep 6, 2020, 5:47 PM

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ok is r9 3900x worth buying

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even

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cause i put my pc up to sell

vapid crypt Sep 6, 2020, 5:51 PM

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Are you buying everything in that list you posted?

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Cause since you're more interested in gaming, no get the 3700X

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And go for the R9 on Zen 3 later if you really want the extra cores

fleet canopy Sep 6, 2020, 5:55 PM

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Just wait and see what happens. The 3900X might lower in price after release

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Or a CPU better than 3900X but much cheaper just like 3070 PirateSimon

vapid crypt Sep 6, 2020, 6:00 PM

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I mean shit if you can get a 3900X for half MSRP, I would go for that shit phaWesker

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Generally I would say wait until announcements are made, usually all the old stuff drops as a result

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That's what I'm doing, hoping for a 3700X for like $200

fleet canopy Sep 6, 2020, 6:02 PM

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Announcements are maids? Sounds cute

vapid crypt Sep 6, 2020, 6:02 PM

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Yeah it does doesn't it phaRebecca

dense wasp Sep 6, 2020, 6:28 PM

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that was indeed a tasty setup @abstract kite

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I've been thinking about getting into water cooling, never been my jam

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but iono

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haha

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I've just always been more into aircooling

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even thought I've built probably 100+ rigs the past 10 years

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say 15y to be on the safe side 😉

fleet canopy Sep 6, 2020, 6:40 PM

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100+ in 10 years? What’d you do to do that much?

abstract kite Sep 6, 2020, 8:15 PM

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The thing is... i can get 3900x for 368€ via my boss which is cheap af aka im buying it directly for MSRP price cause VAT is not applied

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also idk i dont really want 3700x

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if i were i would just stay with my 9900k xD

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this is how much i can get the 10900k

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xd

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but im not fan on 10 / 20

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i prefer 16 / 32

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plus that 14nm is triggering me

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fleet canopy Sep 6, 2020, 8:25 PM

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That’s not too bad at all. Def worth an investment if it’s similar to 9900K pricing

merry bay Sep 6, 2020, 8:26 PM

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I don't see a reason to switch at all, given you're already with a 9900K

fleet canopy Sep 6, 2020, 8:27 PM

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Oh yeah not really worth upgrading if you already own a 9900K

abstract kite Sep 6, 2020, 8:29 PM

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idk man

merry bay Sep 6, 2020, 8:29 PM

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It's nice to have more cores, but be honest with yourself. Will you really make use of them? You're making a compromise in an area irrelevant to you. (gaming focused)

abstract kite Sep 6, 2020, 8:29 PM

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9900k is bad

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yes i do music and streaming

fleet canopy Sep 6, 2020, 8:30 PM

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8 cores for music and streaming doesn’t sound too bad. But I guess it’s fair having more Kek

merry bay Sep 6, 2020, 8:30 PM

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Well not irrelevant then I guess. But your precious fps would suffer a tiny bit for that LULW

abstract kite Sep 6, 2020, 8:31 PM

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i mean with my 8 cores

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in ableton

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i get

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90% usage

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XD

merry bay Sep 6, 2020, 8:31 PM

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isn't that good?

abstract kite Sep 6, 2020, 8:31 PM

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not at all

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lmfao

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i do some heavy sound design in the program

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but i mean

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thats why i changed from 7700k

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7700k hit 100% at like beggining

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and then crashed

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this starts to lag

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at like half a song

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and about the end

merry bay Sep 6, 2020, 8:32 PM

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4cores sound tragic for something like that. But not even reaching 100% seems like you're doing ok

fleet canopy Sep 6, 2020, 8:32 PM

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Have you already looked at performance change compared with 9900K ca a 3950X?

abstract kite Sep 6, 2020, 8:32 PM

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should i just wait for 4900x

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3950x

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lemme check price

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678€

fleet canopy Sep 6, 2020, 8:32 PM

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Next gen should be pretty promising

abstract kite Sep 6, 2020, 8:32 PM

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yeahh nobody has money for that

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XD

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looking smth mainstream

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with like atleast 12 cores

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jesus

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10900k vs 3900xt

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xD

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10 fps diff

fleet canopy Sep 6, 2020, 8:36 PM

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Oh no!!! 10fps difference!!!

abstract kite Sep 6, 2020, 8:36 PM

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;_;

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but is 7nm better

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and efficient?

fleet canopy Sep 6, 2020, 8:37 PM

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I mean, it’s better than 14nm. I’m not sure just how better though

abstract kite Sep 6, 2020, 8:38 PM

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i mean i can just go for 10900k

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loll

fleet canopy Sep 6, 2020, 8:38 PM

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Nah not worth it if you have 9900K

merry bay Sep 6, 2020, 8:38 PM

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with like atleast 12 cores
btw

abstract kite Sep 6, 2020, 8:38 PM

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this shit bugs me

merry bay Sep 6, 2020, 8:39 PM

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imo back into the waiting cave

abstract kite Sep 6, 2020, 8:39 PM

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GWseremePeepoLife

merry bay Sep 6, 2020, 8:39 PM

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3months left to this year, even if it's a paper launch, AMD should reveal their hand during 2020

fleet canopy Sep 6, 2020, 8:39 PM

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Don’t expect Intel to promise you with 12c or more

abstract kite Sep 6, 2020, 8:40 PM

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true

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anyhow

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if i dont end up selling the pc

merry bay Sep 6, 2020, 8:40 PM

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12c would probably burn up with those clocks LULW

abstract kite Sep 6, 2020, 8:40 PM

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i can just get new case new psu and new gpu

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foking 14nm+++++++++++

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.-.

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@merry bay

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whats better

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for PSU

vapid crypt Sep 6, 2020, 9:06 PM

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Prices will come down pretty nicely post Zen 3

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Course Zen 3 will also give better game performance

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So pick what works best, better overall performance or great performance for the money

sick reef Sep 6, 2020, 10:08 PM

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Alternate Current Voltage is dependent on your outlet.

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Which is in accordance to national standard.

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Assuming the question isn't a joke.

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Hmm

proper wren Sep 6, 2020, 10:15 PM

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Sad day

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I had a customer custom build $4200 CAD 9900K with 2080 super

dense wasp Sep 6, 2020, 10:18 PM

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today?!

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ouch

proper wren Sep 6, 2020, 10:19 PM

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I kept telling him the benefits for getting AMD. But he was intel simp

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Also he had very expensive shoes

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@.@ waiting for head office to order in all 3000 series

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When possible of course

fleet canopy Sep 6, 2020, 10:24 PM

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Good lord. He could have gotten thekind of sidegrade 10600K at least

proper wren Sep 6, 2020, 10:28 PM

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@_@ I tried

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Gay step bro

fleet canopy Sep 6, 2020, 10:29 PM

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It is okay. He will learn soon, if the crappy Intel thing I linked reviewed by GN doesn’t brainwash him enough

vapid crypt Sep 6, 2020, 10:36 PM

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10600K wouldn't be a side grade, but it is a WAY better value

tardy jackal Sep 6, 2020, 11:16 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/k39qDx

Sup. I'm back again. I would like someone to present options (more than opinions on simping for intel or AMD, I dont really care) for a choice of processor, mobo, and ram.

I'm out of the game for motherboard and ram and just looking for viable options that are somewhat cost efficient. I like ASUS as a motherboard brand if you got a good idea which one I should pick causs I'm out of the game. (I dont need wifi so exclude one of those).

For me, I just like being able to play any game I want by just hit max graphics and go, and load quickly, and run at least one more two extra programs on top of a game or discord without struggle, my i5 6600k struggles with more than discord and game sometimes. Not a big deal just a convenience really. I won't be doing streaming, rendering, video editing, whatever, so just looking for a gaming build to last atleast 6-7 years. My 6600k has lasted this long rather well, and could continue if I didnt need a computer for my gf lol.

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For the record, I got a rog strix 2070 already that will be going with the build.

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It's in my current one

dense wasp Sep 6, 2020, 11:18 PM

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imo, it comes down being able/wanting to wait for the new AMD cpus to hit in a month or two

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nothing wrong at all with the build thou, it'll handle most what you throw at it relatively well

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at most I'd debate if you needed a 750w power supply 😉

fleet canopy Sep 6, 2020, 11:23 PM

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If you want, we already have recommended the 10600K with some quality boards at a fair price.

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If you’re looking for a similar but on AMD, check out the 3700X, or wait for the 4800X

tardy jackal Sep 6, 2020, 11:28 PM

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Appreciate you pointing it out. I like having the option for more. I've always heard you want more than not enough. Granted I'm not really sure what total wattage I'm going to be pulling. There is a possibility of a 3070 or MAYBE 4070 upgrade at some point cause I need to replace the 970. I'll probably try to do some OCing as well. maybe get better cooling, more fans, idk. If there is a lower one youd reccomend that has room for these things and a decent gap leftover still

vapid crypt Sep 6, 2020, 11:29 PM

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They recommend 750w for the 3080 and 3090

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So that power supply has you covered for big power draw gpus

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I think I basically said about RAM if you want you can maybe get something faster and ditch the RGB for the same money

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But that's up to you

tardy jackal Sep 6, 2020, 11:30 PM

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I thought 750w was a fair pick overall

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Its pricey but fair

fleet canopy Sep 6, 2020, 11:32 PM

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If you want AMD, get a 3700X/4800X with DDR4-3200MHZ CAS16 with a B-die to OC that to like 3600Mhz CAS-5 or 3200mhz cas 14. You’re free to pay the extra for ezpz preset to 3200MHZCAS14 or whatever lol. For Intel, you won’t really need more than 3200MHz CAS16 as Intel isn’t too reliant on it like Ryzen is

tardy jackal Sep 6, 2020, 11:33 PM

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I'm open to a better ram but if 3200 is all I need for speed then being a rgb gamer for a couple.more dollar no big deal

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I'd appreciate links to better mobo though if you think its overall better than my current choice

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A link to a mobo with 10600x would be cool too

vapid crypt Sep 6, 2020, 11:35 PM

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Look at the Z490 Asus Prime

fleet canopy Sep 6, 2020, 11:35 PM

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Some of the B550 is really good, especially with better VRMs than x570 so I’ve heard

tardy jackal Sep 6, 2020, 11:37 PM

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Can you link the 490 that doesnt have extra stuff I dont need like wifi or whatever

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I dint know the differences in the A B C Z X whatever lol

fleet canopy Sep 6, 2020, 11:38 PM

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Some motherboards don’t have a non-WiFi version I think Kek

tardy jackal Sep 6, 2020, 11:39 PM

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Wifi trash

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I'll simp for cat6 ethernet all day

vapid crypt Sep 6, 2020, 11:41 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fyRgXL/asus-prime-z490-p-atx-lga1200-motherboard-prime-z490-p

restive garnet Sep 6, 2020, 11:42 PM

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windows 10 has an option to host a wireless network from a computer that has a wireless antenna

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so its always nice to have the option, if it comes to it

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my house is to large for a single router, and im to cheap to set up a mesh network and i dont seem to have much luck with signal extenders, so its sorta nice for my phone and tablet

tardy jackal Sep 6, 2020, 11:43 PM

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4 usbs right?

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That one looks like a pretty good deal

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Compared to my current one

merry bay Sep 7, 2020, 12:22 AM

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https://devblogs.microsoft.com/directx/directstorage-is-coming-to-pc/

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From the sounds of it, CPU loads will get lighter once NVME and PCIe 4.0 get leveraged using this

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gen 4 not only has more bandwidth but also runs at a higher frequency. So even lower end cards might benefit at some point.
Thinking about scenarios where memory gets shuffled around often

abstract kite Sep 7, 2020, 12:31 AM

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Remember when I said the 5700XT Drivers aren't that bad just the other day?

Proceeds to blue screen cause of drivers

restive garnet Sep 7, 2020, 12:39 AM

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sounds about right

abstract kite Sep 7, 2020, 12:40 AM

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God I need to get a SSD and stick my OS on it so t can boot faster.

restive garnet Sep 7, 2020, 12:41 AM

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or

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hear me out

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buy more ram and just never turn your computer off

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🤣

abstract kite Sep 7, 2020, 12:43 AM

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Like D0c?

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KEKW

restive garnet Sep 7, 2020, 12:44 AM

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probably

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i only have 32 gb, and i turn my computer off like once every two weeks or so

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sometimes up to a month

abstract kite Sep 7, 2020, 12:44 AM

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I restart mine ever 4 days

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Give or take

restive garnet Sep 7, 2020, 12:45 AM

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rookie numbers

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needa pump those up

abstract kite Sep 7, 2020, 12:45 AM

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I also have 32

merry bay Sep 7, 2020, 12:46 AM

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same

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fleet canopy Sep 7, 2020, 12:46 AM

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I have 7-8 days uptime atm

merry bay Sep 7, 2020, 12:46 AM

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if not for windows updates it would get really long

abstract kite Sep 7, 2020, 12:47 AM

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I need to upgrade to 65

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64*

restive garnet Sep 7, 2020, 12:47 AM

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last time i restarted my computer was last night

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purely because windows update

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had been bugging me for like a month

fleet canopy Sep 7, 2020, 12:47 AM

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Lol

merry bay Sep 7, 2020, 12:48 AM

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I'm waiting for 2004 to stop pulling shenanigans still. Until then

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restive garnet Sep 7, 2020, 12:48 AM

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seems to be a recurring theme atm

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every major update seems to break something new

merry bay Sep 7, 2020, 12:50 AM

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windows pro can edit group policy for forced restarts. Basically all I changed to decide when I'm going to update myself

void perch Sep 7, 2020, 1:04 AM

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I haven't restarted my PC or updated in 2 months. what are updates?

vapid crypt Sep 7, 2020, 1:04 AM

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I know a guy that just leaves it running

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I guess that's a common thing

void perch Sep 7, 2020, 1:05 AM

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i keep it running because i'm constantly on it, and turning it off at night really won't make a big difference. easier when i have everything already up and connected

restive garnet Sep 7, 2020, 1:48 AM

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im generally on for several hours a day, but i have so many games installed that i pretty much have to leave it on overnight to make sure that all my auto updates are done on time

tardy jackal Sep 7, 2020, 2:12 AM

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just get 400 down internet

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bigbrain

vapid crypt Sep 7, 2020, 2:12 AM

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Me with 200 Down PirateSimon

tardy jackal Sep 7, 2020, 2:29 AM

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should i just spend the extra 100 for 10700k.

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catnoan

vapid crypt Sep 7, 2020, 2:31 AM

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You can if you want to, I don't care phaWesker

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If you can swing the extra 100 why not

tardy jackal Sep 7, 2020, 2:31 AM

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is it worth it though

vapid crypt Sep 7, 2020, 2:31 AM

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Eh maybe in long term sure

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Intel won't have any serious improvement until 2021 with Alder Lake 12 Gen

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And that will need a new chipset

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11th Gen might be worth it, but they're going back to 8 cores as the top chip in the consumer space for a bit from what I remember hearing

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Ring Bus architecture doesn't scale great past 8 cores, as its been established. The 10900K loses some memory latency compared to the 10700K just cause of those two extra cores

fleet canopy Sep 7, 2020, 2:37 AM

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11th gen naming might be the biggest joke in the whole Intel thing though

vapid crypt Sep 7, 2020, 2:37 AM

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Hahaha well that's just their laptop stuff

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I think its funny that the people presenting don't even know the name of the products

eternal cairn Sep 7, 2020, 2:45 AM

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What do you think the chances are of Intel's core count being higher than their generation?

vapid crypt Sep 7, 2020, 2:46 AM

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Oh @tardy jackal if you're considering the 10600K Gamers Nexus did detail and look at how it will do just as well as the 10900K with memory alone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbHyF50m-rs

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10600K is essentially the modern 2500K

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Though in terms of price/performance the R5 3600 when you could get it for $160 brand new that was a fucking deal

fleet canopy Sep 7, 2020, 2:48 AM

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Yeah, I guess. But AMD is still doing pretty good in that area, aren’t they?

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For mobile laptop

vapid crypt Sep 7, 2020, 2:49 AM

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I guess so?

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I don't follow the laptop stuff really

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They succeeded with the chiplet ccx design, which effectively increased yields and makes it cheap to make stuff

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So that just makes it easy to put stuff on sale late in the market, especially when yields go up on the node being used

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The reason why the Intel stuff are hardly on a significant sale is because as long as they're making it, their yields aren't as good and it is more expensive to produce the chips technically. Albeit the 9900K can't cost more than like $250 to make probably

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Dat 100% margin tho PirateSimon

abstract kite Sep 7, 2020, 2:59 AM

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So, HP OMEN-X 900-010, yey or nay

eternal cairn Sep 7, 2020, 3:06 AM

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How much is it?

vapid crypt Sep 7, 2020, 3:07 AM

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Um its old isn't it?

eternal cairn Sep 7, 2020, 3:07 AM

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Yeah, um, "nay" for me.

vapid crypt Sep 7, 2020, 3:07 AM

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I just looked it up it has a 6700K and an RX 480

eternal cairn Sep 7, 2020, 3:07 AM

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Office Depot is selling it for $1929.99.

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Or maybe they never updated their website.

vapid crypt Sep 7, 2020, 3:08 AM

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I mean if you can find one for like $400 more power to you

mellow herald Sep 7, 2020, 3:14 AM

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Is there a way to turn off the scroll wheel on my mouse in game? Its annoying because its so sensitive in this game and It randomly switches weapons

fleet canopy Sep 7, 2020, 3:15 AM

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Unbind it if it’s possible

mellow herald Sep 7, 2020, 3:18 AM

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theres no mapping for it

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I checked initially too

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nothing

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just disabled in registry since nothing works and its that irritating

eternal cairn Sep 7, 2020, 3:24 AM

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I never knew you could disable it in the registry.

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I wonder if there's hope for me in disabling the Enter key on my numpad. 😩

fleet canopy Sep 7, 2020, 3:26 AM

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Lol take my keyboard then @eternal cairn

eternal cairn Sep 7, 2020, 3:26 AM

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Does it have RGB?

fleet canopy Sep 7, 2020, 3:27 AM

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Numpad enter key switch is gone

late sorrel Sep 7, 2020, 3:28 AM

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yeah there’s a lot in the registery that you can fiddle with

mellow herald Sep 7, 2020, 3:28 AM

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I just wish they would add it as an option to disable scroll wheel. Siege finally added it

late sorrel Sep 7, 2020, 3:29 AM

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for gtfo?

mellow herald Sep 7, 2020, 3:29 AM

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like 2 years ago

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yea for gtfo

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no option to disable

late sorrel Sep 7, 2020, 3:29 AM

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i mean, it’s unity

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probably not too hard to do

fleet canopy Sep 7, 2020, 3:29 AM

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Lol siege did?

mellow herald Sep 7, 2020, 3:29 AM

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lol

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yes

fleet canopy Sep 7, 2020, 3:30 AM

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I find it funny they’d disable it, but actually kinda nice since I only use the 10 number key on the top for weapon switch

mellow herald Sep 7, 2020, 3:31 AM

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yea its just more accurate to use the numbered keys on top. Or doing quick weapon swap keys thats it. This isnt Half life or Unreal tournament and Ive got the biggest arsenal

merry bay Sep 7, 2020, 3:36 AM

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doesn't your mouse come with software? Or have you checked if they have any? You could make a GTFO profile or manually enable/disable scrollwheel entirely

late sorrel Sep 7, 2020, 3:36 AM

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yeah i don’t use mouse wheel anymore

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just hit buttons

mellow herald Sep 7, 2020, 3:47 AM

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I have the logitech MX master and they have so many options except for enabling or disabling scroll wheel. I can disable the middle scroll button when pushing down but it doesnt help

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I absolutely love the scroll wheel in all other applications except in games

abstract kite Sep 7, 2020, 3:52 AM

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I just seen something that makes me worried for the 3090...

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📎 unknown.png

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ITS SO FUCKING BIG

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Look at that monster

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BFGPU

fleet canopy Sep 7, 2020, 3:54 AM

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Yes. Looks like about 4-5 hands

abstract kite Sep 7, 2020, 3:58 AM

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📎 ifrlpll0muk51.png

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Pew

merry bay Sep 7, 2020, 7:42 AM

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📎 74937_961_no-you-dont-need-new-psu-for-the-geforce-rtx-3090-3080_full.png

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the 3090 case clearance pic surely is comical

dense wasp Sep 7, 2020, 8:40 AM

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haha

eternal cairn Sep 7, 2020, 9:03 AM

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Yikes. I thought people were exaggerating about the size.

dense wasp Sep 7, 2020, 10:41 AM

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naw it's just .. massive

dense wasp Sep 7, 2020, 11:45 AM

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a 3090 hammer would be..more

abstract kite Sep 7, 2020, 12:02 PM

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More? More Work?

brisk badger Sep 7, 2020, 1:06 PM

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@dense wasp (sry for the ping):
Asking you directly if you know if shader programs like ENB or ReShade are fine to be used with GTFO or not. I did not really find a source clarifying this

dense wasp Sep 7, 2020, 1:09 PM

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depends on what you mean by "fine" ? 🙂

brisk badger Sep 7, 2020, 1:10 PM

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VAC 🙂

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or anything that could trigger it as "cheat"

abstract kite Sep 7, 2020, 1:30 PM

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https://youtu.be/2upZSyQHwNA

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KEKW

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No

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If you get reported enough you can be removed from the Discord and you can't really play this game alone.

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The devs get errors back to them when you put mods in. That's what I heard from D0c back in the day when someone modded in the BFG 9000

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Nah

restive garnet Sep 7, 2020, 1:52 PM

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I just wanna have a rant about how terrible fedex are

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They've missed their scheduled delivery 4 times now

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And their tracking updates are about as vague as humanly possible, and come in like 4 hours late

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I rarely have to deal with fedex here

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But i was getting something from the states

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And it was either fedex or ups

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And ups would have cost me about 100 bucks more

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I paid for international priority

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Coz it was like 3 bucks more than international regular

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They do the same thing here

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My driveway is like 40m long

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And they dont like to fuck around with it

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So they just mark it as attempted delivery

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Already have

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They basically told me to piss off

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Until i showed them a video of their driver sitting at the end of my driveway for about 10 seconds and then driving off without ever getting out of his vehicle

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And then it was all oh that is completely unacceptable and we'll talk to the driver about it

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Dont get me wrong, my driveway is a bitch to get in and out of

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But come on guys, just walk it if you dont want to drive up

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I think that particular one i paid like 40 bucks for shipping

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Best part though, was that the driver tried to claim that hed knocked on my door

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Couldnt tell me that it was a sliding door

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And i also have a dog that goes apeshit for couriers

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Actually im more pissed today because my package was out for delivery the whole day, and i didnt even get an attempted delivery

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And the tracking still says out for delivery

fiery panther Sep 7, 2020, 2:22 PM

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Damn that's rough
Need headpat?

restive garnet Sep 7, 2020, 2:22 PM

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Yes

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How dare i not be given the service i paid for

fiery panther Sep 7, 2020, 2:23 PM

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02pat

abstract kite Sep 7, 2020, 4:55 PM

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📎 Screenshot_20200907-185249_Chrome.jpg

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Which has better airflow

lime plank Sep 7, 2020, 4:55 PM

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Remove the front panels lmao.

vapid crypt Sep 7, 2020, 4:56 PM

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The Mesh model has better airflow than the regular one

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Its also cheaper in that screenshot so it is the clear winner here

abstract kite Sep 7, 2020, 4:57 PM

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Yea i like the mesh

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Any brand that looks cool and costs around that price

vapid crypt Sep 7, 2020, 5:00 PM

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Up to what price?

abstract kite Sep 7, 2020, 5:01 PM

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100-120€

vapid crypt Sep 7, 2020, 5:01 PM

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Okay phaSheva

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That's a good meme

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Are you using a AIO?

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No I mean Coffee

abstract kite Sep 7, 2020, 5:05 PM

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im gonna use NZXZ X73

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idk if i wanna mount it top

vapid crypt Sep 7, 2020, 5:05 PM

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Depends on the case

abstract kite Sep 7, 2020, 5:06 PM

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wtf is that case

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apple

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😂 😂 😂

vapid crypt Sep 7, 2020, 5:06 PM

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That is an engineering failure pretty much

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I'm gonna link 4 cases around the same price point, one of them might not be possible to find where you are though

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/nL7v6h/fractal-design-meshify-c-tg-atx-mid-tower-case-fd-ca-mesh-c-bko-tgl

abstract kite Sep 7, 2020, 5:08 PM

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Oof

vapid crypt Sep 7, 2020, 5:08 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vByqqs/metallic-gear-neo-qube-atx-mid-tower-case-mg-ne620q_dbk01

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pvdrxr/cooler-master-masterbox-td500-mesh-w-controller-atx-mid-tower-case-mcb-d500d-kgnn-s01

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VczFf7/cooler-master-mastercase-h500-argb-atx-mid-tower-case-mcm-h500-ignn-s01

abstract kite Sep 7, 2020, 5:09 PM

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cooler master one td500 looks hot

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af

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as in nice

vapid crypt Sep 7, 2020, 5:09 PM

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The second one Is probably the one, its a blatant rip off of the Lian Li o11 Dynamic for like 50 less

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Oh the H500 I linked isn't the mesh model ConfusedUlf

abstract kite Sep 7, 2020, 5:10 PM

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GWjianWut

vapid crypt Sep 7, 2020, 5:10 PM

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Oh on Newegg it is

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Whatever it comes with two front panels I think

abstract kite Sep 7, 2020, 5:10 PM

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lemme check if i have it

vapid crypt Sep 7, 2020, 5:11 PM

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I just remembered that's what they did, they include a mesh and acrylic front panel

restive garnet Sep 7, 2020, 5:11 PM

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Acrylic panels

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Smh

abstract kite Sep 7, 2020, 5:13 PM

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i can get it its avaliable in my country the cooler master

restive garnet Sep 7, 2020, 5:15 PM

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I have a personal hatrid of acrylic panels

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Exactly

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If you like looking into your case, use glass

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Acrylic clouds and scratches like a mofo

vapid crypt Sep 7, 2020, 5:15 PM

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Acrylic just ends up getting scratched

restive garnet Sep 7, 2020, 5:18 PM

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My last case was covered in acrylic top to bottom

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And somehow the entire thing is scratched to shit

abstract kite Sep 7, 2020, 5:19 PM

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I like how my fuckign country applies 25% on price

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lian li costs 122€

vapid crypt Sep 7, 2020, 5:19 PM

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Value Added Tax ConfusedUlf

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The fuck is that even for anyway?

abstract kite Sep 7, 2020, 5:21 PM

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what do u mean what its fkr

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for

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one bottle of water costs 1€

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which is

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8$

lime plank Sep 7, 2020, 5:21 PM

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bruh

abstract kite Sep 7, 2020, 5:21 PM

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yep

vapid crypt Sep 7, 2020, 5:22 PM

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Wait so is there sales tax as well as VAT?

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VAT is a EU thing I thought

restive garnet Sep 7, 2020, 5:24 PM

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Afaik, its the same as GST

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But eu only

vapid crypt Sep 7, 2020, 5:25 PM

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Okay well in the US there's Sales Tax, but I don't think that gets anyway higher than 9% in some States probably. In my State its 7%

restive garnet Sep 7, 2020, 5:25 PM

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In nz, its 15%

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And gets applied on all overseas goods

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So if im importing something from europe

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I get fucked by both taxes

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Lol

vapid crypt Sep 7, 2020, 5:26 PM

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Don't know if there's an import tax, might only apply to shipping costs

restive garnet Sep 7, 2020, 5:29 PM

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Here, you can avoid it if the order is under $150

vapid crypt Sep 7, 2020, 5:29 PM

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As far as I can find it might only apply for anything that's $2500+ phaSheva

restive garnet Sep 7, 2020, 5:29 PM

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But you can go through half that in shipping and import fees alone

vapid crypt Sep 7, 2020, 7:55 PM

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Yeah I've known about that from Coreteks already

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Tom from Moore's Law is Dead speculated that's the 60CU card that they maybe expected to somewhat compete with the 3080, and when Nvidia showed the 3080 they reeled it back a bit in price

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Well it wasn't all that interesting to me, its kind of what I expected PirateSimon

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And its sourced by AIBs

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I wouldn't trust AIBs entirely, they probably think that's the highest level card that AMD will be offering

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Actually now that I think about it, Navi 22 will probably be available from AIBs while the 21 will probably be designed exclusively by AMD

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At least for a limited time

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Nah even if it is slower, if it has comparable bandwidth the gap will close at 4k

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Like its gonna be 16gb of GDDR6 at 16GB/s on a 256-bit bus

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I don't really know how to do the math on that, but that should match or exceed the bandwidth of a 3080

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$550 graphics card that's 5-8% slower at 4k vs a $700 that looks good on paper

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Well it looks good with how I described it I should say phaWesker

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And it fits with what AMD was saying about disrupting the 4k market

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With what we've been hearing about supply issues from Nvidia

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Its likely that getting your hands on one of their new cards this quarter is gonna be a pain in the ass

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And will lead to inflated pricing

#

Right AMD yields are better

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Samsung's 8nm is 80% yield with smartphone chips

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How do you think the yield is with 700nm2 chips?

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Probably Half that phaWesker

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They are, or it could be Samsung's 7nm. Still inferior to TSMC's

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Both in yield rate, efficiency and density

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Nvidia basically only got 7nm from TSMC for the big 100 chip for data center as far as I know

coral sand Sep 7, 2020, 10:24 PM

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That and it's worth remembering that NVidia has shat on TSMC in the past

fleet canopy Sep 7, 2020, 10:26 PM

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All I have to hope here is the GPU from AMD is going to be much better than drivers mess like 5700XT

vapid crypt Sep 7, 2020, 10:41 PM

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I think they shat on their 28nm just cause they were losing to AMD at performance per watt. I think it was 28 could have been a different node.

vapid crypt Sep 7, 2020, 11:19 PM

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Oh I think I was way off, it was most likely 40nm they were shitting on from TSMC. Cause that was what they used for Fermi

tardy jackal Sep 8, 2020, 4:41 PM

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📎 Screenshot_20200908-114042.jpg

tardy jackal Sep 8, 2020, 4:59 PM

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Still havent decided what I want to do catmoan

vapid crypt Sep 8, 2020, 5:22 PM

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Its not hard Delta, just get on Z490 or wait until Zen 3 PirateSimon

tardy jackal Sep 8, 2020, 5:38 PM

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internalscreaming

merry bay Sep 8, 2020, 5:39 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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context: that's the new xbox look

vagrant plank Sep 8, 2020, 6:13 PM

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AMD Ryzen or Intel Core?

tardy jackal Sep 8, 2020, 6:24 PM

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Should lay out what you're trying to do or get out of a system. Better to get an answer that way. Imo, not much difference in them now and are some times better than the other at different things but more or less on equal footing now (for the moment, might change coming soon with AMD release and Intel throttling their releases). I like intel for gaming though personally. There will be Simps for either one so it's just trying to find something objective about them over another. Somesomething amd having more threads, somesomething intel having better core speed

vapid crypt Sep 8, 2020, 6:41 PM

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Yeah that's a good meme for the Series S phaWesker

eternal cairn Sep 8, 2020, 8:47 PM

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You gotta be honest though. Going from a 2 GHz CPU to 3.5/3.8 is a pretty big step up in the console industry. Of course, their advertised "super fast loading times" will only apply to certain titles and PC will still beat the loading times by a pretty high margin.

tardy jackal Sep 8, 2020, 8:49 PM

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Are the consoles going to use m.2s and have 16gb of ram to utilize that cpu input lol

eternal cairn Sep 8, 2020, 8:53 PM

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I know they're gonna use M.2s.

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I forget if they're getting 8 or 16 GBs of RAM to be honest.

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Yeah, they're getting 16 GB.

fleet canopy Sep 8, 2020, 9:03 PM

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They’ll get SSDs this time, can’t say if it’s NVME or SATA

vapid crypt Sep 8, 2020, 9:12 PM

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They will be using m.2s and Sony's PS5 will have some kind of cache design to help optimize cache textures or some shit like that? I dunno I fell asleep during road to ps5 phaWesker

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And yeah they will be NVMEs

fleet canopy Sep 8, 2020, 9:43 PM

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Ignore the stupid reddit thing

📎 image0.jpg

tardy jackal Sep 8, 2020, 9:48 PM

#

Christ

fleet canopy Sep 8, 2020, 9:49 PM

#

Regular boy, long skinny boy, thicc n thicc boy

#

It must be 3090, 3080 and 3070 or 3090 3070 and 3060

vapid crypt Sep 8, 2020, 9:57 PM

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Its the 3090 3080 and 3070

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Gotta have a massive cooler to cool all of that memory phaWesker

fleet canopy Sep 8, 2020, 9:58 PM

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Hah

vapid crypt Sep 8, 2020, 9:58 PM

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Once there's 2gb GDDR6 modules, I think Nvidia will come out with a 48GB Titan

rancid kindle Sep 8, 2020, 10:49 PM

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ok a little bit ago i posted about the details my moms friend wants for a laptop, after a follow up she said preferably <$1k Canadian, what do we think of this? https://www.amazon.ca/NX-H54AA-002-A515-52-59TX-Aspire-Ci5-8265U-Windows/dp/B07QQN98MT/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=1TB+HDD&qid=1599605194&s=pc&sr=1-3

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or this https://www.amazon.ca/HP-17-3-inch-17z-Laptop-Dual-Core/dp/B08H6XL1LQ/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=1TB+HDD&qid=1599605360&s=pc&sr=1-5

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This is what she needs:

Laptop
Tough, because she is rough with things
“Responsive” touch pad
Capable of driving 2external monitors (2 HDMI ports)
Min 1 Terabyte hard drive
“Reasonably fast” processor
Windows 10 compatible
Camera, microphone & built-in speakers for video classes
Headphone jack
Very good HD video streaming (loves dancing to K-pop)
Screen around 16 or 17 inches (not less than 15.5)
A touch-screen is a bonus, but not necessary
WIFI & Bluetooth
Min 4 “up-to-date” USB ports
DVD Drive (CD drive is a bonus)
LAN port

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the main thing i was looking at was the 1tb HDD and the large screen size

vapid crypt Sep 8, 2020, 10:53 PM

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Rule out the HP laptop, its using a pretty old cpu architecture at this point, most likely slower than the Acer one you linked

rancid kindle Sep 8, 2020, 10:53 PM

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ok, keep in mind I dont expect it to be used for anything too intensive

#

from what i know mostly online classes and watching videos/movies

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or maybe even this one https://www.amazon.ca/Acer-Nitro-AN515-54-51M5-15-6-i5-9300H-1650-8GB/dp/B088LX4JGM/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=1TB+HDD&qid=1599605360&s=pc&sr=1-6

vapid crypt Sep 8, 2020, 10:57 PM

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This is going to be used as a general computer right, work and browsing stuff like that?

#

Okay so these two I found are under the same product line just slightly different specs and price

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https://www.amazon.ca/A515-44-R41B-Processeur-graphique-Graphics-rétro-éclairé/dp/B087N4ZRXV

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https://www.amazon.ca/Acer-Backlit-Keyboard-Windows-A515-44-R7LG/dp/B0892N4TFJ

dense wasp Sep 9, 2020, 7:04 AM

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@fleet canopy holy crap, haha

#

that's a big ass card

clear quartz Sep 9, 2020, 8:43 AM

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that's no graphic card but a grathicc card

dense wasp Sep 9, 2020, 9:15 AM

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😂

nimble anvil Sep 9, 2020, 1:03 PM

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Idk if to get the 3080 or 3090

jade ermine Sep 9, 2020, 1:08 PM

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3080 is the smarter choice for gamers, 3090 is just big dick energy

tardy jackal Sep 9, 2020, 1:35 PM

#

Tbh, I think the 3070 will be the best choice for gaming

#

Cost per performance

jade ermine Sep 9, 2020, 2:02 PM

#

Performance you get with 3080 scales with price compared to 3070 pretty well. 3090 does not scale well at all 😄

#

but for most gamers 3070 is the obvious choice and later 3060

tardy jackal Sep 9, 2020, 2:07 PM

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And how much are games going to optimized or utilize all that power 3080 (or 3090) spits out

nimble anvil Sep 9, 2020, 2:26 PM

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Yeah, 3090 is not great cost for performance, but it will get to me knowing there's a better one. I'm a dumb consumer that gives into marketing

vapid crypt Sep 9, 2020, 2:57 PM

#

3090 only has 20% more shaders than the 3080, at best its 15 - 20% faster than the 3080 for 110% more money

#

That partially only cause the 3080 doesn't have the full 384-bit memory bus, if it did and some more Vram it would probably be closer to 10%

#

Albeit when that's relevant like at 4k as you should be using a card of that level at.

#

Basically you're paying for the Vram

tardy jackal Sep 9, 2020, 3:01 PM

#

It's so hard to justify 4k as worth it rn. I wont be into it until it's out of its infantile stages of use and technology and becomes more standard.

Cant say for the people that have money on growing on trees anyway.

vapid crypt Sep 9, 2020, 3:03 PM

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I suppose, as it is the 3080 is enough for 4k if that's an interest. I've been hearing about 4k monitors coming down or something in light of its announcement phaSheva

tardy jackal Sep 9, 2020, 3:04 PM

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Playing 4k on Games coming out as of last couple years:

16 or 32 bit
unoptimized betas

Muh pixels

#

📎 unknown-278.png

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Why stop at 3090 KEKW

fiery panther Sep 9, 2020, 3:08 PM

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What on earth is that

brisk badger Sep 9, 2020, 3:12 PM

#

First prototype to play crysis in 8k

tardy jackal Sep 9, 2020, 3:12 PM

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When you plug in your 223K gpu and play on 32k resolution and 1000 fps

📎 Screenshot_20200909-101131_Chrome.jpg

brisk badger Sep 9, 2020, 3:13 PM

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223k / 16

void perch Sep 9, 2020, 3:16 PM

#

fun fact, our team at work have GPU's in some of our servers (they host an application for our clients) to see if GPU hosting is better performance than CPU. Price wise wasn't worth it but we now have 2 servers with some sweet GPU's in them..

tardy jackal Sep 9, 2020, 3:20 PM

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Now turn them into btc farms ;)

nimble anvil Sep 9, 2020, 3:40 PM

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Now run Minecraft with RTX on it

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I really have no interest in 4k

#

I want those sweet frames

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1080p, anti-aliasing, 144fps, ultra settings is my preference

tardy jackal Sep 9, 2020, 3:43 PM

#

^

#

Optimal gaming imo

nimble anvil Sep 9, 2020, 3:46 PM

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I'm interested to see how the 360hz monitors turn out

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I don't see how anything above 144 fps is noticeable, but I'll wait to see it for myself before judging it

vapid crypt Sep 9, 2020, 3:50 PM

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I doubt the increases are worth the extra cost personally

fiery panther Sep 9, 2020, 3:57 PM

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Frames over resolution

#

Though 1080p IS important to me

abstract kite Sep 9, 2020, 4:20 PM

#

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FPIMJEW?tag=amz-mkt-chr-us-20&ascsubtag=1ba00-01000-org00-win10-other-nomod-us000-pcomp-feature-pcomp-wm-6&ref=aa_pcomp_aps1_atc1 Would you guys recommend this? And Where would I plug it in at? OS_nerea_think

fiery panther Sep 9, 2020, 4:20 PM

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Well, is it needed

lime plank Sep 9, 2020, 4:20 PM

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The motherboard?

fiery panther Sep 9, 2020, 4:21 PM

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It's a usb card

abstract kite Sep 9, 2020, 4:21 PM

#

It is needed.

fiery panther Sep 9, 2020, 4:21 PM

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Well

#

In that case, I won't stop you

#

Just don't know where to plug it in

lime plank Sep 9, 2020, 4:22 PM

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The small pci-e

fiery panther Sep 9, 2020, 4:22 PM

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Yeah that's how far I got lol

abstract kite Sep 9, 2020, 4:22 PM

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Yeah I mean the wires

lime plank Sep 9, 2020, 4:22 PM

#

wich is on the motherboard

fiery panther Sep 9, 2020, 4:22 PM

#

Oh

#

I know that it's on the motherboard

#

I built my own pc

lime plank Sep 9, 2020, 4:23 PM

#

sata power

#

Its on the wires

abstract kite Sep 9, 2020, 4:24 PM

#

So where the Hard drives would go or on the wire where the HDD's plug in at for power on the PSU

lime plank Sep 9, 2020, 4:25 PM

#

depends on where you want it

#

~~that pic was shit sorry~~

#

Plug it in somehow xd

abstract kite Sep 9, 2020, 4:34 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ueymQ1M0Es&ab_channel=GadgetGeek

#

This video helps a lot

jade ermine Sep 9, 2020, 4:36 PM

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https://twitter.com/LisaSu/status/1303725578160349185

#

so oct 8th zen3 news

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28th big navi news

#

cheers

tardy jackal Sep 9, 2020, 4:39 PM

#

So we've talked about me either getting a i5 10600k / z490 vs a i7 9700k/ z390. Can you list again pros and cons between them? Do they affect gpu performance between the two if perhaps I got a 3070

jade ermine Sep 9, 2020, 4:43 PM

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z390 is dead platform so i would avoid it.

tardy jackal Sep 9, 2020, 4:49 PM

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Dead how

#

As in updates?

jade ermine Sep 9, 2020, 5:05 PM

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socket does not support future CPU's

vapid crypt Sep 9, 2020, 5:11 PM

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Yeah that's why we've been recommending getting on Z490

#

And 28th of this month for Navi, or October?

#

Oh okay I found the tweet its October, that's kind of rough

#

I suppose they'll tease it until then

tardy jackal Sep 9, 2020, 5:20 PM

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Most of anytime you ever try to upgrade cpu TYPICALLY requires a new mobo

#

So that's kind of irrelevant lol

#

Especially on builds built to last 6 or 7 years

#

Like I'm on a z170 with a i5 6600k

#

The fuck am I gonna upgrade to, an i7 6700k? Lol

vapid crypt Sep 9, 2020, 6:14 PM

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The only reason to make an upgrade like that is if someone wasn't willing to get on a new chipset yet, and would rather take the adequate thread boost for minimal cost

#

In any case, my point hasn't only been support for 11th gen Intel or whatever, my point has been why not get on the latest chipset offering.

jade ermine Sep 9, 2020, 6:42 PM

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Here is dates for Ayymd stuff

📎 gu5jl8t775m51.png

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1usmus tweeted that 10 core 20 thread ryzen is happening.
10th day makes sense for that, zen2 happened 7th day because 7nm stuff hehe

#

1usmus is creator of that ryzen ram calculator

merry bay Sep 9, 2020, 7:08 PM

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you got played by MMDDYYYY LULW

#

YYYYMMDD is superior, or at least just MMDD

void perch Sep 9, 2020, 7:09 PM

#

https://xkcd.com/1179/

xkcd: ISO 8601

tardy jackal Sep 9, 2020, 7:15 PM

#

vibin

fleet canopy Sep 9, 2020, 7:16 PM

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Lame. I’m going to do it MMDDYYYY or MMDDYY PirateSimon

void perch Sep 9, 2020, 7:16 PM

#

MDYYMD

fleet canopy Sep 9, 2020, 7:17 PM

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002099

merry bay Sep 9, 2020, 7:20 PM

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2000-2012 was a great time for announcement teaser date puzzles

#

more often than not... unintentional puzzles

sick reef Sep 9, 2020, 7:56 PM

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Why do they not just do YYDDMM

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That'd make it even easier to be confusing.

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haha

abstract kite Sep 9, 2020, 10:29 PM

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We've hit peak preformance

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fleet canopy Sep 9, 2020, 11:33 PM

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Bigger box so they can add a CD reader

clear quartz Sep 10, 2020, 5:46 AM

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DDMMYYYY is god tier format

dense wasp Sep 10, 2020, 6:59 AM

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haha

clear quartz Sep 10, 2020, 7:14 AM

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lets be honest, the best gaming platform ever will always be samsung fridges

fiery panther Sep 10, 2020, 7:23 AM

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Wrong

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The best gaming platform is the turntables

clear quartz Sep 10, 2020, 7:38 AM

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Samsung Fridge Master Race

proper wren Sep 10, 2020, 9:22 AM

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https://www.newegg.ca/p/pl?d=Rtx+3080

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evga finally has rgb on their cards

jade ermine Sep 10, 2020, 10:33 AM

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what you mean finally, my 2080 had RGB

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ReversedConfusedUlf

restive garnet Sep 10, 2020, 10:45 AM

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You guys trying to tell me that the best gaming platform isnt a pregnancy test?

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Smh

clear quartz Sep 10, 2020, 10:53 AM

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pregnancy test doom is not as god tier as piano doom

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJu997jwBcA&feature=emb_logo

jade ermine Sep 10, 2020, 1:18 PM

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Pic of 3090 installed

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brisk badger Sep 10, 2020, 1:48 PM

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with that bulky size I wonder if the pcb's over time are going to be bent. At least in this picture it looks like the hdd bay is holding the gpu nicely

clear quartz Sep 10, 2020, 2:02 PM

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imagine getting a 3090 and its too chonky for your tower

jade ermine Sep 10, 2020, 2:06 PM

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@brisk badger I think not, PCB is only half the length so any bend would be not noticeable

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teardown will be ass im telling that right now

tardy jackal Sep 10, 2020, 2:10 PM

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Lol my rog strix 2070 looks bigger for some reason

wise pumice Sep 10, 2020, 3:09 PM

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3090 can't fit in my case 😞

fleet canopy Sep 10, 2020, 3:43 PM

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Pretty much better off getting a 3080 for the better price to performance than 3090 just like 2080 Super vs crappy 2080 Ti

tardy jackal Sep 10, 2020, 3:45 PM

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What's the hard dimensions of 3090

fleet canopy Sep 10, 2020, 3:54 PM

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RTX 3090: 13.8 cm (W) x 31.3 cm (L), 3-slot

RTX 3080: 11.cm (W) x 28.5 cm (L), 2-slot

RTX 3070: 11.2 cm (W) x 24.2 cm (L), 2-slot

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3080 is long n skinny boy

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3070 is normal

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3090 is some mega thicc motherfucker

tardy jackal Sep 10, 2020, 4:01 PM

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My 2070 is ~12 (w) x ~30cm (L) x 5 cm (H)

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3090 a tad bigger

fleet canopy Sep 10, 2020, 4:02 PM

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Funny. The 3080 and 3070 are shorter than the 2070

tardy jackal Sep 10, 2020, 4:03 PM

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Mine is a rog strix variant with 3 fans. So that could account for the size

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Mines a heavy mother fucker

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The basic nvidia designs are sleek/slim

fleet canopy Sep 10, 2020, 4:04 PM

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Kek, ROG always go big as fuck for some reason

tardy jackal Sep 10, 2020, 4:04 PM

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Shit I dont care, cooling is gucci

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The more compact the less air flow

fleet canopy Sep 10, 2020, 4:05 PM

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Imagine having airflow

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I still have to do an SFF at some point for fun

tardy jackal Sep 10, 2020, 4:06 PM

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The cable I have is janky I know leave me alone

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fleet canopy Sep 10, 2020, 4:06 PM

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Perhaps with the smaller size, I could use the 3070

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Not that it could help too much

tardy jackal Sep 10, 2020, 4:07 PM

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Swear to god though you could lift the rog 2070 and gain muscle doing reps

fleet canopy Sep 10, 2020, 4:07 PM

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Lmao

tardy jackal Sep 10, 2020, 4:29 PM

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fleet canopy Sep 10, 2020, 5:00 PM

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What was Microsoft thinking when they made the stereo?

tardy jackal Sep 10, 2020, 5:02 PM

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Why is not embracing the green symbol

fleet canopy Sep 10, 2020, 5:03 PM

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NVIDIA or Xbox?

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They?

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@abstract kite what do you mean?

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Ah, heh

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My mistake, I forgot they don’t process thoughts

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I have a joke about Microsoft but it’s not something I’d rather say here Kek

abstract kite Sep 10, 2020, 6:21 PM

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i love hearing microsoft jokes

bright shard Sep 10, 2020, 6:28 PM

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do you have a soft spot for micro jokes?

tardy jackal Sep 10, 2020, 6:31 PM

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pepeplode

vapid crypt Sep 10, 2020, 7:19 PM

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I call em Microshaft phaSip

eternal cairn Sep 10, 2020, 7:53 PM

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We need jokes for Sony now.

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$ony likes to underperform though.

fleet canopy Sep 10, 2020, 8:01 PM

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Sony is uhhh

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Sony’s fine for the moment for me

eternal cairn Sep 10, 2020, 8:01 PM

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For real though, I can see so many people complaining about the PS5 design because of the edges. It's like the console is begging for someone to slam the corner of it into a wall.

fleet canopy Sep 10, 2020, 8:03 PM

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Lmao

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I think it’s an ok design

eternal cairn Sep 10, 2020, 8:03 PM

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I predict that a good chunk of people selling their PS5s on eBay will have broken edges.

fleet canopy Sep 10, 2020, 8:04 PM

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Lmao I guess

restive garnet Sep 10, 2020, 8:04 PM

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I think, if its anything like the PS3, its probably gunna fall apart on its own anyway

fleet canopy Sep 10, 2020, 8:05 PM

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If that happens, they just aren’t good at taking care of things then

eternal cairn Sep 10, 2020, 8:06 PM

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I think like 60% of gamers are the kind that eat doritos and drink mountain dew (without washing their hands).

fleet canopy Sep 10, 2020, 8:06 PM

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Lmao omg

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Fair enough

eternal cairn Sep 10, 2020, 8:08 PM

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And then they complain about stick drift or their controllers not working because they have so much crap inside of them.

restive garnet Sep 11, 2020, 7:33 AM

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Well shit

merry bay Sep 11, 2020, 8:27 AM

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SHIFT + ESC inside chrome would give a glimpse at which pages suck so much ass

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at least the places I tend to visit are rarely problematic if kept in a tab for long. The ones that are I remind myself to kill via Chrome's task manager and refresh so it doesn't hog resources and slow other things down

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restive garnet Sep 11, 2020, 9:04 AM

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unfortunately, i saw that message a little bit to late, its now dropped to 2.5gb

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but ill definitely keep it in mind for next time

rancid thicket Sep 11, 2020, 9:29 AM

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Chrome be like wipity wopity ur ram is now my property

abstract kite Sep 11, 2020, 10:32 AM

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is the rx570 8gb still good ?

clear quartz Sep 11, 2020, 11:01 AM

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dont buy hardware now

umbral arch Sep 11, 2020, 12:00 PM

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@abstract kite get a 580 8gb it's much better and should be no price change

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I've got a 4GB version and it runs most things perfectly

abstract kite Sep 11, 2020, 12:07 PM

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well i onnly have 120€ would buy it on ebay XD

fleet canopy Sep 11, 2020, 3:24 PM

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If you wait for the RTX 3000/Navi GPU to release, you might see a price drop and probably afford for a better one

clear quartz Sep 11, 2020, 4:28 PM

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^^

nimble anvil Sep 11, 2020, 4:46 PM

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http://prntscr.com/ufojss

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Anyone have any suggestions for my build?

This will be coupled with a 3080 or 3090

rancid thicket Sep 11, 2020, 4:48 PM

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Id go for 32 gigs of ram for some reason my pc was using 25 gigs of it

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And i still have no clue why it needed it

nimble anvil Sep 11, 2020, 4:51 PM

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I did go for 32 gigs, but I was bullied into getting 16 by a dedicated PC building Discord

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Weird how you'd be using 25gigs

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What were you doing?

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I was looking at buying this instead
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08CDGBDG2/ref=sspa_dk_detail_1?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B08CDGBDG2&pd_rd_w=gxVe1&pf_rd_p=1055d8b2-c10c-4d7d-b50d-96300553e15d&pd_rd_wg=ML8y7&pf_rd_r=21QEJ92HKRA8XFXRJ555&pd_rd_r=b311dd4e-9a52-4fd4-950f-8a5df26afc83&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUFMMllQWjlaV1cyQlMmZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTAwNzQ1MTFLQ0dXVllTVTBJOFEmZW5jcnlwdGVkQWRJZD1BMDgxNTY4NzM2TjlXRThMMjU5WDQmd2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9kZXRhaWwmYWN0aW9uPWNsaWNrUmVkaXJlY3QmZG9Ob3RMb2dDbGljaz10cnVl

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Damn, that's a long link

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I have no idea who Baititon are, but it's a 2TB NVME SSD

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Is that good?

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Ohh okay. Is it slower having large SSDs?

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Oh lol

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I think I'll go with the 2 TB then get some extra SSDs if needed

nimble anvil Sep 11, 2020, 5:32 PM

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That's a lot faster than the one I sent?

fleet canopy Sep 11, 2020, 5:55 PM

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Switch the 10700K for a 10600K if you want. Imo the 10700K isn’t really worth it

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You might as well wait for Ryzen 4000 too, see how good they are before buying anything

tardy jackal Sep 11, 2020, 6:12 PM

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I hate this hardware limbo rn when I'm trying to build a new pc

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KEKW

sick reef Sep 11, 2020, 6:18 PM

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Stability and durability is worth more than speed.

tardy jackal Sep 11, 2020, 6:28 PM

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Do elaborate

thick bridge Sep 11, 2020, 6:33 PM

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Guys i wanted to make a new pc on november/december, i was going to buy a rtx 3070, monitor for 4k etc...
i just need to choose the cpu and the motherboard, which one should i get ? ( i wanted to spend 300euros as total; for example the cpu i5-9600k it's available for 200 euros)

tardy jackal Sep 11, 2020, 6:41 PM

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Why 4k

fleet canopy Sep 11, 2020, 6:41 PM

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Because anything lower than 2160p is a poor man resolution PirateSimon

abstract kite Sep 11, 2020, 6:41 PM

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ACry

tardy jackal Sep 11, 2020, 6:41 PM

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If you consider the poor liking more frames as an offset

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Most games coming out are underoptomized for 4k still

fleet canopy Sep 11, 2020, 6:42 PM

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I guess so. Wonder if the new GPUs will be able to smoothly run 4K without a problem

abstract kite Sep 11, 2020, 6:42 PM

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4k is a poor man's resolution since we have 8k now

tardy jackal Sep 11, 2020, 6:42 PM

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Consequentially it's a waste to get 4k for games right now

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Phone typing op

fleet canopy Sep 11, 2020, 6:43 PM

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4K is a joke to have tbf, even for a monitor

tardy jackal Sep 11, 2020, 6:43 PM

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Its cool and all

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Just not optimal for price / performance

fleet canopy Sep 11, 2020, 6:44 PM

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Unless you’re getting a big enough TV, don’t get 4K because gaming on it is cancer

tardy jackal Sep 11, 2020, 6:44 PM

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Lot of games dont even support the resolution much less run it well

fleet canopy Sep 11, 2020, 6:44 PM

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You can get a 200$ 4K tv however, but is it really worth it over 1440p with 144hz

tardy jackal Sep 11, 2020, 6:45 PM

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1080P is still really strong.

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Especially if you want 144 frames with everything besides beta games that arnt fully optimized yet

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looking at you tarkov

fleet canopy Sep 11, 2020, 6:46 PM

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Tarkov isn’t even for 1440p. It only supports 1080p really so I’ve heard

sick reef Sep 11, 2020, 6:48 PM

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It is advisable to wait until good 4K gets affordable.

fleet canopy Sep 11, 2020, 6:49 PM

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Or just get 1440p 144hz

tardy jackal Sep 11, 2020, 6:50 PM

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4k becomes standard *

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It's just in its infantile stages in development

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1440p is more manageable but I'm still ehh on it

vapid crypt Sep 11, 2020, 6:55 PM

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If you're considering 4k you shouldn't even consider the 3070

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8gb of Vram 256-bit bus

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Yeah that's a no go, it has less bandwidth than the 2080Ti even if it might be potentially faster at lower resolutions

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16gb sure, there will likely be a 3070 Ti in response to Navi, which will have 16gb for a bit more

abstract kite Sep 11, 2020, 6:59 PM

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3070 is garbage

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2080Ti is better

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kappalul

vapid crypt Sep 11, 2020, 7:01 PM

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I mean yes and no, 3070 will likely be better at like 1440p always; but at 4k forget about it phaWesker

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Get a 3080Ti or Big Navi pretty much PirateSimon

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I'm not sure if 10gb will be golden at 4k for a long time, at best I give the 3080 an entire generation

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Which I would personally want a $700 card to last longer than a single generation

tardy jackal Sep 11, 2020, 7:05 PM

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Tldr

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Stick to 1080p

vapid crypt Sep 11, 2020, 7:06 PM

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Yeah, don't even need to spend $700+ for good perfomance at 1080p

sick reef Sep 11, 2020, 7:07 PM

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Unsure why 8GB Vram shouldn't be enough hmmm

fleet canopy Sep 11, 2020, 7:07 PM

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Because 4K is demanding to all hell

vapid crypt Sep 11, 2020, 7:07 PM

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It has less bandwidth than the 2080Ti

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Its a gimped 2080Ti, 4k you're already turning down settings in the latest games pretty much

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1440p all day though

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Or hell 1080p

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For those speedy frames

tardy jackal Sep 11, 2020, 7:08 PM

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4k is demanding on top of games being unoptimized for it

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1 ms 144hz 1080p monitor

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All you need

vapid crypt Sep 11, 2020, 7:09 PM

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I'm still unsure why they went with such an unconventional number, why is it 144 and not 150? phaWesker

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I'm being robbed 6Hz ConfusedUlf

tardy jackal Sep 11, 2020, 7:10 PM

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bigbrain

sick reef Sep 11, 2020, 7:10 PM

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Multipliers

fleet canopy Sep 11, 2020, 7:10 PM

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Of 12

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Mostly

sick reef Sep 11, 2020, 7:10 PM

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Mostly?

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hmmm

fleet canopy Sep 11, 2020, 7:11 PM

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There’s 75Hz

sick reef Sep 11, 2020, 7:11 PM

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5-10-12-20

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75Hz is an overclock refreshrate, from what I know.

vapid crypt Sep 11, 2020, 7:13 PM

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Its where IPS topped out for a while

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Until a couple years ago

sick reef Sep 11, 2020, 7:13 PM

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Though, I don't know what controls the pulling of a computer screen.

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IPS has been able to pull higher than 75 for quite some time

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It's just that it's like a 144Hz8K screen nowadays.

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In earlier 4K, I was looking at screens and found a 4K120Hz IPS screen for mere 2500.

vapid crypt Sep 11, 2020, 7:15 PM

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Wow rushxcYikes

fleet canopy Sep 11, 2020, 7:15 PM

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Imagine paying for a 4K 144hz

vapid crypt Sep 11, 2020, 7:17 PM

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When there wasn't a card capable of driving the monitor

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Yeah that would have been something phaWesker

fleet canopy Sep 11, 2020, 7:17 PM

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Except for portal maybe

vapid crypt Sep 11, 2020, 7:17 PM

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But I guess if there's an example of future proofing that would be the ultimate example

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As long as it works you won't have to upgrade that monitor for a very long time

fleet canopy Sep 11, 2020, 7:19 PM

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Eh, I think 1440p 144hz would be the futureproof. 4K won’t get cheaper anytime soon, and 1440p 144hz is starting to be more affordable and easier to run

sick reef Sep 11, 2020, 7:19 PM

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If you have the monitor you probably afford the cards to support it.

vapid crypt Sep 11, 2020, 7:19 PM

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I think future proof is a fallacy anyway, but I mean eventually there will be a card that will be able to fully utilize a monitor like that

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I suppose we could see that level of performance from the 3090 maybe

tardy jackal Sep 11, 2020, 7:22 PM

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But like

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Its not just the hardware

vapid crypt Sep 11, 2020, 7:22 PM

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Yeah its also the software PirateSimon

abstract kite Sep 11, 2020, 9:11 PM

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02LUL

abstract kite Sep 11, 2020, 9:33 PM

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So quick quesiton guys

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My dads Oculus Rift S just stopped being recognized by his computer after the latest windows 10 update

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He tried to reinstall and uninstall Oculus Software itself and that did not work, restarting the computer did not help either.

vapid crypt Sep 11, 2020, 10:16 PM

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I'm a bit dubious about Oculus since facebook owns it, also I heard in like 2 years you allegedly must link your Occulus with your Facebook account or else it won't work or something phaWesker

vapid crypt Sep 11, 2020, 11:14 PM

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If AMD had nothing, or if this were last year you could bet the 3080 would be called the "3080Ti" and cost the same as the 2080Ti did; along with the 3090 being another Titan for over 2 grand

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Actually I take a bit of that back, I heard share holders would prefer lower costing product if it meant better sales

tardy jackal Sep 11, 2020, 11:29 PM

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instead of an i5 6600k or i7 9700k, for around 300... i could get this for 350 apparently

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🤔

vapid crypt Sep 11, 2020, 11:34 PM

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You save 20 when bundled with a motherboard too

tardy jackal Sep 11, 2020, 11:34 PM

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their MBs are all like 200+

vapid crypt Sep 11, 2020, 11:35 PM

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Wow phaWesker

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Really they don't have the Asus Prime or Msi A-Pro Z490?

tardy jackal Sep 11, 2020, 11:35 PM

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think you linked one

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that was like

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160

vapid crypt Sep 11, 2020, 11:35 PM

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Those are like 150 160

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And they're good boards for the level of VRM cooling you get

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And power delivery of course

tardy jackal Sep 11, 2020, 11:37 PM

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The 20$ off deal is the normal cost online

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KEKW

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but you dont have to do shipping

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nvm

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Whats a solid m.2? The patriot 1tb?

tardy jackal Sep 12, 2020, 12:02 AM

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🤔

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hm. So i can get pretty much everything i wanted before except with a 10700k and z490-A, slightly more expensive case, for $1130 after tax. (no gpu)

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or this one for $1006.41 before tax. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/k39qDx

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which is like 1,090 after estimated tax.

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so... $40 more with more expensive MB, case, and processor. lol

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Then again, might be cheaper if i actually looked for 9700k and z390 on this site as well. it might be 100$ cheaper overall then lol

vapid crypt Sep 12, 2020, 12:20 AM

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But how could you pass up what is essentially a 9900K? PirateSimon

tardy jackal Sep 12, 2020, 12:21 AM

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wot

vapid crypt Sep 12, 2020, 12:21 AM

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The 10700K is 1:1 with a 9900K

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Same core/thread count

tardy jackal Sep 12, 2020, 12:21 AM

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and i7 9700k is a sidegrade to i5 10600k.

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so whats your point lol

vapid crypt Sep 12, 2020, 12:22 AM

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You're getting more performance, so the extra money might be justifiable

tardy jackal Sep 12, 2020, 12:22 AM

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is the the newer generational stuff not better overall?

vapid crypt Sep 12, 2020, 12:22 AM

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Its your call though

tardy jackal Sep 12, 2020, 12:22 AM

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like for sidegrades, comet > coffee?

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or you saying its backwards now

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so if i wanted an i7 9700k, i should just get an i5 10600k. And if i wanted an i7 10700k i should just get a i9 9900k? lol

vapid crypt Sep 12, 2020, 12:24 AM

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I mean its pretty much the same shit tbh, only thing you might be missing is future PCI-e gen 4 support but that would need a CPU replacement anyway; to 11th gen so probably not worth it

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If you can find a similarly priced 9900K sure

tardy jackal Sep 12, 2020, 12:25 AM

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i dont plan to upgrade till probably like 12-13th gen

vapid crypt Sep 12, 2020, 12:25 AM

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Well that makes sense, it would need a new board anyway

tardy jackal Sep 12, 2020, 12:25 AM

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like hell, if my 6600k is still solid as hell, a 10700k is going to fucking last

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that being said, i dont think $1130 with an i7 10700k and no gpu is a bad deal. seems typical/not OP

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my fuckin i5 6600k build with a 970 was $1600 back then lol.

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so $1130 + $550 2070 = $1680

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for an IMMENSELY better upgrade

vapid crypt Sep 12, 2020, 12:29 AM

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Skylake was overpriced PirateSimon

tardy jackal Sep 12, 2020, 12:29 AM

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it fuckin was]

vapid crypt Sep 12, 2020, 12:29 AM

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As was Kabylake

tardy jackal Sep 12, 2020, 12:29 AM

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but everything I had was OP'ed clearly

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everything now is 100x better and provides a TON more for less

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this cost $1600 bro. KEKW

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so now im gonna have 3200 ram, an i7 10700k, 2 tb HDD, and 1TB m.2 for a teeeeny bit more.

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bigbrain

vapid crypt Sep 12, 2020, 12:34 AM

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My computer probably cost about half that, I've added fans and a hard drive since; R5 2600 and an RX 580 1tb NVME

tardy jackal Sep 12, 2020, 12:35 AM

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i mean what sucks is im having to a completly new build instead of just upgrades

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cause my gf needs a computer so

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but like...everything is shit by todays and then's standards so its a good thing . lul

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could of saved 150$ by just keepin my 850w

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and 110 for case

tardy jackal Sep 12, 2020, 1:18 AM

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I got a lot in savings, that i gained from working from home lul, saves a shit ton of money

fleet canopy Sep 12, 2020, 1:18 AM

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Hm.

tardy jackal Sep 12, 2020, 1:18 AM

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It is still more than i want to spend, but like - its a hobby i spend most my time in...might as well enjoy it to best potential

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WITHIN reason

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too bad though...could be gun money instead

vapid crypt Sep 12, 2020, 1:56 AM

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Gun money PirateSimon

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Ammo shortages though been hearing about that rushxcWut

tardy jackal Sep 12, 2020, 2:11 AM

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yep

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556 55gr fmj used to be 28 cents a round. its about 70 cents+ a round now

bright shard Sep 12, 2020, 2:12 AM

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just ping for resources 4head

eternal cairn Sep 12, 2020, 2:51 AM

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I'd love to upgrade my GPU someday, but I'm not sure if my power supply is powerful enough. 🤔

eternal cairn Sep 12, 2020, 3:21 AM

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Right now, I have a GTX 1070, but I can't tell what wattage my power supply is.

vapid crypt Sep 12, 2020, 3:23 AM

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I mean did you buy the power supply?

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I forgot how efficient they made pascal, all cause they cut down on the amount of SMs alongside the node shrink

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And yeah around 600W or so you'd be good to go for a 3070 or similar class card

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6700XT maybe, we don't know what they're gonna be called PirateSimon

eternal cairn Sep 12, 2020, 3:26 AM

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Nah, the power supply came with my prebuilt. I only upgraded the motherboard, CPU, and RAM.

vapid crypt Sep 12, 2020, 3:27 AM

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What kind of prebuilt was it?

eternal cairn Sep 12, 2020, 3:27 AM

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CyberPowerPC.

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It was from like 6 years ago.

vapid crypt Sep 12, 2020, 3:28 AM

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Then they probably included an okay power supply, at best 650w depending on what the system came with originally

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At worst 500w

eternal cairn Sep 12, 2020, 3:30 AM

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Okay, sweet.

vapid crypt Sep 12, 2020, 3:30 AM

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Its simple enough to check what it is, all you have to do is open some things up

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You might have to loosen it and pull it out

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That wouldn't be much of an upgrade phaSheva

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Probably more like 15?

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Also smaller memory bus

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Eh yeah maybe not a good idea

eternal cairn Sep 12, 2020, 3:33 AM

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I'll probably check later.

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I can't do it right now since I'm working on something.

vapid crypt Sep 12, 2020, 3:34 AM

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I saw there was leaks of 3060Ti specs

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I didn't see what they were but I'm guessing its a cutdown 3070

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Yeah rumored to be cutdown 104 from the 3070 with 1000 less shaders

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Tie you over until what?

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What do you have now?

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1060 6gb right?

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Ah I see, well you could get slightly better performance for cheap

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But would it be worth it if you're just months away from an upgrade

stark plover Sep 12, 2020, 4:39 AM

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Do yall think I can manage to bring my mobo, ssd, cpu, gpu, ram as carry on onto a plane flight

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Inside a bagged all wrapped up

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Or would that be sus to tsa

void perch Sep 12, 2020, 4:41 AM

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14 years ago i carried on the entire case w/ components inside on a plane.

merry bay Sep 12, 2020, 4:42 AM

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they'd definitely inspect a PSU(not listed), but since it's not a laptop I think they'd still want a peek

void perch Sep 12, 2020, 4:42 AM

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are they going to be in the case itself, or just components?

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i took a keyboard, mouse, headset on a flight and they wanted them all sent through screening outside my bag

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so if you make sure htey can be easily taken out of the bag and through the scanner, then you'll be fine.

stark plover Sep 12, 2020, 4:43 AM

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Just components wrapped in anti static bubble wrap as a carry on if i can make it fit

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If I want it to be inside the case I would have to do it as checked baggage which i dont mind really but I figured better to take it with me on the plane vs people handling it themselves

void perch Sep 12, 2020, 4:44 AM

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they might get a bit suspicious with freeform components in bubble wrap, outside of their normal boxes

stark plover Sep 12, 2020, 4:44 AM

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A psu ima bring as checked baggage so its not with my body

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oof

void perch Sep 12, 2020, 4:44 AM

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so expect them to pull you to the side for questions

stark plover Sep 12, 2020, 4:44 AM

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I got the case for the ram and ssd but thats it

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sad

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this is my first time flying what if i mess up and they say no and boom pcmr stolen

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😦

void perch Sep 12, 2020, 4:45 AM

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overall, you'll probably make it through, but as said, arrive early and expect them to ask you lots of questinos and extra scrutiny

stark plover Sep 12, 2020, 4:45 AM

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Ima be there 2 hours early

void perch Sep 12, 2020, 4:45 AM

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try not to make them too hard to unwrap/rewrap

stark plover Sep 12, 2020, 4:45 AM

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Alright

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Do you know how tsa security stuff works if i may ask

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like at an airport do i just walk through with my boarding info and they check it there or what

void perch Sep 12, 2020, 4:47 AM

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first time flying
I've flown many times, with ranging from two laptops, battery pack, two phones, lots of cables to keyboard/mouse/headset in boxes to not having a drivers license/photo id. i've had really smooth, and really rough ones.

merry bay Sep 12, 2020, 4:47 AM

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For stuff that's very easy to identify, at least from experiences I've heard of they just ask for confirmation what it is. But tightly wrapped stuff might cause suspicions.

void perch Sep 12, 2020, 4:47 AM

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When you get there, try for 2.5 hours early, but if you don't have your boarding pass printed already, you'll need to get that, either from a ticket booth (self unit) or going to the ticket window. You'll need to go to the window anyways for checked luggage

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after that, you go through security. they need your photo ID and boarding pass, that's it

stark plover Sep 12, 2020, 4:48 AM

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I can print it out before hand if just regular printing paper in black and white works

void perch Sep 12, 2020, 4:48 AM

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if you need to check luggage, the ticket counter can do that for you

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if not, any paper works

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you'll then need to put everything in bins for going through security. laptop alone in one bin, shoes off, everything out of pockets, belt off (usually). loose clothing like jacket/sweatshirt off, all in bins. carry on bag would go in the conveyer by itself. this is where they might pull you to the side to ask about the PC components

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What I usually do is take everything out of your pockets prior to going through security, like wallet, keys, loose change, phone, etc and put that in your carry on bag prior to entering the TSA line. like put in your backpack or something. that way when you go through the line, less you need to pull out of your pockets or put away

stark plover Sep 12, 2020, 4:54 AM

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Ohh I see alright, I appreciate all the help ;(
If they just pull me off I just try to explain that its just computer parts that ima put together when im at my destination

void perch Sep 12, 2020, 4:54 AM

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lastly some other flying tips. have a sweatshirt in your carry on luggage/on you so you can take on/off as you get hot/cold. have your phone charger nearby.

stark plover Sep 12, 2020, 4:54 AM

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And for my gpu, since it has a morpheus ii on it, would it be best to take that off since its a big heatsink and I imagine it would look bad to some people

void perch Sep 12, 2020, 4:55 AM

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nah shouldn't need to do that, shuoldn't be anything worse than what you're already at

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Lastly if they do pull you to the side, try and be calm, be respectful, be nice. it goes a long ways. Just explain they are computer components, like a video/graphics card, memory, etc used for building a computer when you land. Expect and plan for the worst, hope for the best. Put the components at the top of your bag, easy to pull out. Don't over-stuff your bag, becaue if they are pulled out, you need to put it back together and that could be a struggle if you don't have enogh space

stark plover Sep 12, 2020, 4:59 AM

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Alright, thank you a lot for all the help with this youre the best 😀 . Ill try my best with everything and see how it all goes

void perch Sep 12, 2020, 4:59 AM

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Anytime, best of luck, i'm sure you'll make it through just fine.

restive garnet Sep 12, 2020, 7:41 AM

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im with doc, particularly about that last part

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being calm and respectful goes a long way

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at least over here, you can get away with quite a lot as long as you are honest and respectful

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last time i had to go through customs, i got to skip all the scanners because i told them i had muddy running shoes lul

vapid crypt Sep 12, 2020, 8:29 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxtfNcm45xk

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phaSheva

fiery panther Sep 12, 2020, 8:35 AM

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Hmm

thick bridge Sep 12, 2020, 2:54 PM

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Guys u talked to much ahahaha

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So at the end which cpu and motherboard i should buy ?

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For having them for 300euros

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ok i watched a bit of messages, i have to spend 300 euros for cpu and motherboard (for example 200 euros of cpu and 100 for mb) not 300 only the cpu

fleet canopy Sep 12, 2020, 3:11 PM

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RTX 3000 now listed on PCPP including AIB coolers. Includes: 3090, 3080, 3070, probably includes 3060 iirc

vapid crypt Sep 12, 2020, 7:01 PM

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100 for a motherboard is a tough call imo, at least if you want a quality one.

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Closest you're getting to that budget would be a Ryzen 5 3600 and MSI B450 Tomahawk Max

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Well as far as AMD goes, Intel at that budget you're either getting last gen or something that's underpowered for the money

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I suppose with 10th gen intel, you could get the 10400F which is cheaper atm than the 3600, but you'd have to pair it with a more expensive Z490 motherboard with decent speed RAM; otherwise you would be missing out on performance

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But you could likely roughly match the 300 budget I suppose

abstract kite Sep 12, 2020, 7:41 PM

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I'd wait to buy if at all possible. Intel, Nvidia and AMD are going to be jockeying for buys and will be fighting one another to see who can undercut who the best in the older products. Plus we're getting into the Holiday Season with Black Friday and Cyber Monday coming up soon.

vapid crypt Sep 12, 2020, 7:42 PM

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If you need a pc right now, go ahead and get what you're gonna get; but its worth mentioning that Zen 3 will be announced before the 3070 is released. And if its released that same week then I would wait until then yeah

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You might be able to get a 3700X for around $200 after that's announced

abstract kite Sep 12, 2020, 7:42 PM

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Isn't Zen 3 on the 8th?

vapid crypt Sep 12, 2020, 7:43 PM

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Yeah, wait I don't actually know the exact date the 3070 comes out

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Would it be the same week?

abstract kite Sep 12, 2020, 7:43 PM

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Err

vapid crypt Sep 12, 2020, 7:43 PM

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Either way good luck getting one

abstract kite Sep 12, 2020, 7:43 PM

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Zen 3 is being announced on my birthday, nice.

proper wren Sep 12, 2020, 9:04 PM

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Meanwhile RDNA2 doggopeek

vapid crypt Sep 12, 2020, 9:21 PM

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I think its really telling that the events are 20 days apart

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That tells me that they want RDNA2 to be center stage with its own event instead of sitting in the back seat with the CPUs at the front

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That's basically how it was for Vega and RDNA 1

thick bridge Sep 12, 2020, 9:41 PM

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no no

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i am going to wait november because right now i don't have the money ahahah

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but the budget is 300 euros anyway

vapid crypt Sep 12, 2020, 11:03 PM

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Covered all the possible current options anyway then

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Just don't skimp on RAM speed, that's more important than some people think.

tardy jackal Sep 12, 2020, 11:21 PM

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Welp. Wasting another 300$ on the build for barely a performance gain. Yeet pepeplode

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They dont have the heat sink I want in stock today. I might just say yolo on a water cooler. What you guys recommend.

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If they got in stock hopefully

abstract kite Sep 12, 2020, 11:35 PM

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is this gonna be enough connectors for RTX 3080 lmao..

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eternal cairn Sep 12, 2020, 11:42 PM

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Yeesh.

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Also, AIO is probably gonna be your best bet unless you want to stick it out with air cooling, @tardy jackal.

tardy jackal Sep 12, 2020, 11:45 PM

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Link?

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Dont know what AIO is, ngl

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"All in one" LUL

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Yeah so what AIO coolers Thonk

eternal cairn Sep 12, 2020, 11:49 PM

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It depends, but considering Intel is the worst when it comes to heat displacement, you'll probably want to look at some 360mm AIOs.

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I think the NZXT Kraken X73 would be a decent AIO for price/performance.

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Someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. Although, I think I might be the only person here who uses an AIO cooler. 😦

tardy jackal Sep 12, 2020, 11:57 PM

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AIO are probably going to be better cause less matinence I imagine

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I hear cooler masters and corsair do a good job

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Should I opt for a single or dual fan?

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With an i7 10700k

eternal cairn Sep 13, 2020, 12:46 AM

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I have a 240mm cooler master AIO, and it only dropped my 3900x temp by 10 degrees (Fahrenheit) compared to the stock cooler it came with.

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Granted, I did get it for $80 on sale when it's normally $130, but I would not have paid full price for the AIO.

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Okay. Fixed it.

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Not only was someone actually foolish enough to put in a max bid of $1,000 for a Nintendo Switch, but someone else was willing to see how high they went.

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😆

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More than 2x what the Switch actually costs.

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But for real though, there are a LOT of Switch Lite listings on eBay.