#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk | GTFO | Page 141

brisk badger Sep 2, 2020, 4:41 PM

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😤

abstract kite Sep 2, 2020, 4:41 PM

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XD

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im playing hitman 2 rn max settings

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my power cons% is 95%

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TDP

vapid crypt Sep 2, 2020, 4:42 PM

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Wait is it a bad idea to use the 2 8 pins chained onto the same cable?

abstract kite Sep 2, 2020, 4:43 PM

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my 1070

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occed to max

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it can handle

vapid crypt Sep 2, 2020, 4:44 PM

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The 3080 is gonna be consuming easily 350W

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Just you know, something to point out

abstract kite Sep 2, 2020, 4:45 PM

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i dont mind as long as my 650W can handle it

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i didnt pay

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120€ for 80+ gold fully modular

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for nothing

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xd

brisk badger Sep 2, 2020, 4:45 PM

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Demonio; I don't think so (else PSU's would need to write this clearly) BUT PSU's have "rails". Maybe one of the plugs uses one rail whereas the other uses another rail. Using both plugs of the same cable probably would cause more load on a specific wheras with 2 cables you spread the load more.
Not sure if it's true. Likely also that all GPU pins are going back to the same rail

vapid crypt Sep 2, 2020, 4:46 PM

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Well okay, so for reference

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My PSU is quad rail

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So would there be an issue using separate 8 pins on the same cable

brisk badger Sep 2, 2020, 4:47 PM

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then it probably has multiple 12v rails. 12v are used by GPU and CPU

abstract kite Sep 2, 2020, 4:47 PM

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im currently using

brisk badger Sep 2, 2020, 4:47 PM

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tbh I don't think so.
Would be a joke if manufacturers just don't think of such a use case

abstract kite Sep 2, 2020, 4:47 PM

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8x pin on my cpu

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and 8x pin on gpu

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so ill need one extra cable

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inside psu and

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put inside gpu

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right

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?

brisk badger Sep 2, 2020, 4:47 PM

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maybe you put less force on a specific rail but at this point I am just guessing

merry bay Sep 2, 2020, 4:48 PM

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https://twitter.com/OfficialPCMR/status/1300847491659845633

vapid crypt Sep 2, 2020, 4:50 PM

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I see

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So this is a specific quirk for these cards

abstract kite Sep 2, 2020, 4:51 PM

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ok so

brisk badger Sep 2, 2020, 4:51 PM

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HAHA

abstract kite Sep 2, 2020, 4:51 PM

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guys before i go

vapid crypt Sep 2, 2020, 4:51 PM

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I have a 750W so if I really wanted to go against my principles and get a 3080 I could do it.

abstract kite Sep 2, 2020, 4:51 PM

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i can just put in psu my extra cable from that box ive got with psu right

vapid crypt Sep 2, 2020, 4:52 PM

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And yes do that

abstract kite Sep 2, 2020, 4:52 PM

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ok

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aaand

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one more thing

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in gpu z

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it will show 350W

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but will be higher probs

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400W

vapid crypt Sep 2, 2020, 4:52 PM

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400w+ is likely overclocked you know

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The 2080Ti already gets there with how people OC that thing

merry bay Sep 2, 2020, 4:53 PM

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GN did a video yesterday on total system power consumption of recent hardware

abstract kite Sep 2, 2020, 4:53 PM

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so thats only GPU usage of power right @vapid crypt

vapid crypt Sep 2, 2020, 4:53 PM

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Yes

abstract kite Sep 2, 2020, 4:53 PM

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how much does my cpu

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use

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9900k

brisk badger Sep 2, 2020, 4:53 PM

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400W for CPU only?

vapid crypt Sep 2, 2020, 4:53 PM

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9900K stock?

brisk badger Sep 2, 2020, 4:53 PM

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*GPU

abstract kite Sep 2, 2020, 4:53 PM

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eh

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i have it on 4.8ghz

brisk badger Sep 2, 2020, 4:53 PM

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what are you doing to it

abstract kite Sep 2, 2020, 4:53 PM

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all cores

vapid crypt Sep 2, 2020, 4:54 PM

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I don't know off the top of my head how much a 4.8ghz 9900k consumes

abstract kite Sep 2, 2020, 4:54 PM

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vapid crypt Sep 2, 2020, 4:54 PM

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But 5Ghz is easily 200W isn't it?

brisk badger Sep 2, 2020, 4:54 PM

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use a tool to find out

abstract kite Sep 2, 2020, 4:54 PM

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ok lets say

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ill go use stock

brisk badger Sep 2, 2020, 4:54 PM

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Coretemp is nice

abstract kite Sep 2, 2020, 4:54 PM

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and then

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combine all of that

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with gpu usage

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which is 350W

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350 + ??

brisk badger Sep 2, 2020, 4:55 PM

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i remember some months you were dreaming of the 2080ti or something. And you didn't even buy it

abstract kite Sep 2, 2020, 4:55 PM

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XD

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i know

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causeee

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i knew that 3080

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will be my baby

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the one and only

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wife

vapid crypt Sep 2, 2020, 4:55 PM

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I'm kind of curious how much power my cpu uses actually

abstract kite Sep 2, 2020, 4:55 PM

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8k cuda cores

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OK FUCK that u guys did it to me

brisk badger Sep 2, 2020, 4:55 PM

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it's a number

abstract kite Sep 2, 2020, 4:55 PM

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im gonna download cpu z

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and tell u how much

vapid crypt Sep 2, 2020, 4:55 PM

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Oh one other thing

abstract kite Sep 2, 2020, 4:55 PM

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9900k gives

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XD

merry bay Sep 2, 2020, 4:55 PM

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This is stock(more or less)

vapid crypt Sep 2, 2020, 4:55 PM

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I seriously think the cuda core count is some bulldozer shit

abstract kite Sep 2, 2020, 4:56 PM

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ok good @merry bay my psu is enough

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❤️

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thx

merry bay Sep 2, 2020, 4:56 PM

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it's not

abstract kite Sep 2, 2020, 4:56 PM

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ok its not

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nice

vapid crypt Sep 2, 2020, 4:56 PM

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Well I mean look at it this way

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The 3070 is pretty good price/performance

merry bay Sep 2, 2020, 4:56 PM

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there's a chance you'll be ok. But do you really want to gamble with your "wife"

abstract kite Sep 2, 2020, 4:56 PM

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🙄 3070

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whats the worst that can happen

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if i dont have enough power

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for gpu

vapid crypt Sep 2, 2020, 4:57 PM

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I mean you got a 1070 right

abstract kite Sep 2, 2020, 4:57 PM

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yes 1070

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🙄

vapid crypt Sep 2, 2020, 4:57 PM

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When you could have gotten a 1080

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I mean its still the same die so what's the difference really...

brisk badger Sep 2, 2020, 4:57 PM

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let him stand at the shop ready to buy the product. then you can help him

abstract kite Sep 2, 2020, 4:57 PM

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XD

vapid crypt Sep 2, 2020, 4:57 PM

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The only reason the 1080 is faster is cause it got faster memory

abstract kite Sep 2, 2020, 4:57 PM

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go on

vapid crypt Sep 2, 2020, 4:57 PM

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And the full 104 die

abstract kite Sep 2, 2020, 4:58 PM

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9900k aint that bad

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even with 5 ghz

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oc

vapid crypt Sep 2, 2020, 4:58 PM

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1070 is a nerfed 2080, meanwhile I guess worse case the 3070 is a nerfed 3070 Ti if that's real phaWesker

abstract kite Sep 2, 2020, 4:58 PM

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ok thats it

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im getting 3080

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XD

brisk badger Sep 2, 2020, 4:59 PM

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please, check the wattage yourself and don't take examples

abstract kite Sep 2, 2020, 4:59 PM

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what program

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cpuz does not show it

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neither does gpuz

brisk badger Sep 2, 2020, 4:59 PM

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especially power fluctuates widly from system to system

vapid crypt Sep 2, 2020, 4:59 PM

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Wait a second what do those numbers mean?

brisk badger Sep 2, 2020, 4:59 PM

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coretemp is a neat tool
Aida64 is great and shows also more info but costs money

abstract kite Sep 2, 2020, 4:59 PM

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anyone got aida64

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cracked

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?

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cough

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wooza

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looking at u

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:3

merry bay Sep 2, 2020, 5:00 PM

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i don't think anyone here will point you in that direction

brisk badger Sep 2, 2020, 5:00 PM

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for work not.

for personal use I can't remember

abstract kite Sep 2, 2020, 5:00 PM

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😄

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k i found it

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ok installing aidA64

brisk badger Sep 2, 2020, 5:00 PM

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but coretemp is a handy tool for CPU only

abstract kite Sep 2, 2020, 5:00 PM

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kk downloading core temp

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are u all ready

brisk badger Sep 2, 2020, 5:01 PM

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well you actually need to give some load to your system first

abstract kite Sep 2, 2020, 5:01 PM

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whats a good

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program

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or game

brisk badger Sep 2, 2020, 5:01 PM

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and be aware, if you alt tab to check, it will look (drastically different). So a second monitor almost requiresd

abstract kite Sep 2, 2020, 5:01 PM

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fek

brisk badger Sep 2, 2020, 5:02 PM

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dunno. Preference. For CPU torturing I use today Realbench from Asus. I have found personally this tool to be the best in regards to check overclocking stability

abstract kite Sep 2, 2020, 5:02 PM

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idle i guess

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ok opening up horizon zero dawn

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GWcorbinTopKek

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holy mother

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XD

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it aint that badd... right

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loading screen 100W

brisk badger Sep 2, 2020, 5:04 PM

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yep tho the game mostly does not stress your CPU fully

abstract kite Sep 2, 2020, 5:05 PM

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Seems like it does

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And seems like I need to be a nuclear reactor technician to understand what those pictures are saying

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its around 55W

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i guess

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now in game

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in loading it reached 105W

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max

merry bay Sep 2, 2020, 5:06 PM

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would be a shame to crash during loadtimes

abstract kite Sep 2, 2020, 5:06 PM

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lets circle it 80W

vapid crypt Sep 2, 2020, 5:06 PM

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I'm curious how high it would get under prime 95

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I just ran that, at like 6 minutes; the peak for my CPU was 127W. Its a Ryzen 5 2600 4Ghz at 1.3V

brisk badger Sep 2, 2020, 5:07 PM

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fully stressed, your CPU surely consumes 120-140w. It may never reach those values since not all 16 threads will ever reach 100% or do work with instruction sets like AVX-512

abstract kite Sep 2, 2020, 5:08 PM

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ok

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120 + 400

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still got 30 to spare

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if i can do math

merry bay Sep 2, 2020, 5:08 PM

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I dunno being very close to your max limit sounds like a risk to your hardware I'd not be willing to take. Having to think twice about my workload instead of confidently using it.
Or forgetting it's so close and some day doing a mild OC, only to fail.

abstract kite Sep 2, 2020, 5:08 PM

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yeah i got mild oc on my cpu

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and max oc on my 1070 rn

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max my 1070 did

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was 220W

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in max load

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torture

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with max oc

brisk badger Sep 2, 2020, 5:09 PM

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prime and some other tools use AVX extension which is really making the CPU struggle. Great for syntethic benchmark / tests but do not mirror a real world environment

merry bay Sep 2, 2020, 5:09 PM

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Even with 2000series, I'd say you're fine with that 650W, but the 3000series are definitely more power hungry

brisk badger Sep 2, 2020, 5:09 PM

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next month big navi comes out and coffee2go will come back with the same question about AMD

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then he sees the first leaked news about nvidia 40 series and the cycle repeats

abstract kite Sep 2, 2020, 5:10 PM

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XD

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ok cmon now

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wooza

brisk badger Sep 2, 2020, 5:10 PM

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probably he ends up buying the 2080ti / 2070 in the end for little money

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😋

abstract kite Sep 2, 2020, 5:10 PM

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XDDDD

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i literally got 800€

vapid crypt Sep 2, 2020, 5:11 PM

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Here's what you could do

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Just get the PSU upgrade and forget about it

abstract kite Sep 2, 2020, 5:11 PM

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👀

merry bay Sep 2, 2020, 5:11 PM

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Local listings in my area already pumping out 2080S for ~450

abstract kite Sep 2, 2020, 5:11 PM

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can anyone give me a cheap but good psu then

brisk badger Sep 2, 2020, 5:11 PM

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I would agree. Even if it will run with 650w in the beginning you will face more and more problems

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plus a second PSU is worth gold. Trust me

vapid crypt Sep 2, 2020, 5:11 PM

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Like what's an extra $100 - $120 or whatever

abstract kite Sep 2, 2020, 5:11 PM

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👀

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3090

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for that money

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XD

brisk badger Sep 2, 2020, 5:12 PM

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2x 2080ti

abstract kite Sep 2, 2020, 5:12 PM

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^^

vapid crypt Sep 2, 2020, 5:12 PM

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Shit you could sell your old PSU on top of that, you won't get more than like 40 bucks or something; imo PSUs depreciate when used

merry bay Sep 2, 2020, 5:12 PM

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I was ready to jump the gun on a 3080, but the 3070 Ti mention made me halt completely

vapid crypt Sep 2, 2020, 5:13 PM

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I'm waiting for Navi PirateSimon

brisk badger Sep 2, 2020, 5:13 PM

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\o/

abstract kite Sep 2, 2020, 5:13 PM

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when is navi coming out

vapid crypt Sep 2, 2020, 5:13 PM

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No official date yet

abstract kite Sep 2, 2020, 5:13 PM

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damn

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ok brb

brisk badger Sep 2, 2020, 5:13 PM

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before you made your final decision 😛

vapid crypt Sep 2, 2020, 5:13 PM

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There was talk of November, with Nvidia announcing now it could be October

merry bay Sep 2, 2020, 5:14 PM

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Would really suck if the next gen console games on PC would be VRAM heavy like Modern Warfare. It manages to saturate 11GB @4K, it would eat more if it could.

vapid crypt Sep 2, 2020, 5:14 PM

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Technically if they wanted to they could release it this month as a paper launch

merry bay Sep 2, 2020, 5:14 PM

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And 3080 is "only" 10GB

vapid crypt Sep 2, 2020, 5:14 PM

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Except the drivers would not be ready

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Well they would be ready, but just barely phaWesker

brisk badger Sep 2, 2020, 5:16 PM

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I think 10GB is going to be a good spot for 4k.

merry bay Sep 2, 2020, 5:16 PM

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even 1440p is just under 10GB VRAM usage for Modern Warfare. To truly flex GPU power I feel like 10GB is very on the edge of uncertainty.

vapid crypt Sep 2, 2020, 5:16 PM

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The bandwidth that the 3080 has cause of GDDR6X is on par with a 12GB card from Turing

brisk badger Sep 2, 2020, 5:16 PM

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it could also be that MW just is bad with texture optimizations

vapid crypt Sep 2, 2020, 5:16 PM

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If such a card existed

brisk badger Sep 2, 2020, 5:17 PM

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OR they make 4k for everything

merry bay Sep 2, 2020, 5:18 PM

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It's probably because of the open-world'ish loading of textures. Always shuffling things out near the limit. Could be they could optimize it better

vapid crypt Sep 2, 2020, 5:18 PM

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Funny I was talking to my buddy yesterday and he mentioned something about how stupid Modern Warfare is where every texture is 8k or 4k

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So you have these insane file sizes

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Different issue altogether though

brisk badger Sep 2, 2020, 5:19 PM

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I think they made everything in 8k that's why this game is so huge. and then scale it down ofc

merry bay Sep 2, 2020, 5:19 PM

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eye candy is nice and all, but this is brutal

vapid crypt Sep 2, 2020, 5:19 PM

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230GB is totally scaled down PirateSimon

brisk badger Sep 2, 2020, 5:19 PM

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never played the game but seems to be really pushing pc's to their limits incl the internet in some countries

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too bad it's owned by activistion

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damn that's a size

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is it one map or several?

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we speak about the battle royale game?

vapid crypt Sep 2, 2020, 5:20 PM

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That's the whole game I think?

brisk badger Sep 2, 2020, 5:20 PM

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oh no the base game is surtely included

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yea

merry bay Sep 2, 2020, 5:20 PM

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oh look, a CoD drive

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event patch ruins it LULW

vapid crypt Sep 2, 2020, 5:21 PM

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Yeah I don't like the idea of games potentially taking up 1/4 space of your average 1tb drive

brisk badger Sep 2, 2020, 5:21 PM

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and the loading times are okay?

vapid crypt Sep 2, 2020, 5:21 PM

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And SSDs might be a must for new games in the future too

brisk badger Sep 2, 2020, 5:21 PM

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I wish that game installers (better downloaders) would let you choose the texture size

merry bay Sep 2, 2020, 5:21 PM

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You load once and the rest is open-world. If you're on an HDD you stutter between areas like a madman

brisk badger Sep 2, 2020, 5:22 PM

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so you can say, fuck that 8k res I only need 2k and then the game maybe is 60gb instead of 230gb

vapid crypt Sep 2, 2020, 5:22 PM

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I'm no developer, but there must be a better way of doing that

merry bay Sep 2, 2020, 5:22 PM

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Friend has 8GB of RAM, his pagefile for some reason was on his HDD, not SSD. That made him lag like crazy

brisk badger Sep 2, 2020, 5:23 PM

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for downloading it's ofc compressed

vapid crypt Sep 2, 2020, 5:23 PM

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Oh he probably installed his OS on a HDD

brisk badger Sep 2, 2020, 5:23 PM

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but not when it's installed. You need the highest resolution, else you gonna kill the performance of your game when you have to decompress stuff on the fly in the background

merry bay Sep 2, 2020, 5:24 PM

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i wonder how closely related that process is to "preloading shaders"

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long process they make you go through

brisk badger Sep 2, 2020, 5:24 PM

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cod devs be like: "But you all have 1TB drives?!"

vapid crypt Sep 2, 2020, 5:24 PM

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Speaking of which I launched Detroit Become Human like 20 minutes ago and its still doing that...

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I swear I did this before but its doing this again for whatever reason

brisk badger Sep 2, 2020, 5:25 PM

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shaders usually dont have to be recompiled or preloaded after it was done once. Unless the game changes the shader or you modify it e.g with ReShade or ENB

vapid crypt Sep 2, 2020, 5:25 PM

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90W on the CPU just cause its maxing out the CPU on this screen phaWesker

brisk badger Sep 2, 2020, 5:25 PM

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often games store all shader data in %appdata% 😠

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it's my c:\ drive games, stop fucking writing stuff in there

vapid crypt Sep 2, 2020, 5:26 PM

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I wonder if they fixed the memory leaks this game had

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Fucking game was using nearly 12GB after half an hour of playtime for no reason

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Its no fun seeing the memory use at 99%

merry bay Sep 2, 2020, 5:28 PM

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I don't go that high when injecting Cheat Engine scans into heavy games LULW

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it tends to double memory usage, writing on top sometimes

vapid crypt Sep 2, 2020, 5:29 PM

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It would rise over time, like it would be oh 50% total system RAM; next thing you know its over 70% and climbing

merry bay Sep 2, 2020, 5:30 PM

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Making Chrome proud

brisk badger Sep 2, 2020, 5:31 PM

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probably because it makes a copy of the memory

merry bay Sep 2, 2020, 5:31 PM

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The only sites that Chrome leaks memory on(for me) are with ads that refresh

brisk badger Sep 2, 2020, 5:31 PM

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an application cannot access the memory of another application

abstract kite Sep 2, 2020, 5:38 PM

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oh so thats why i lose fps when i use trainers

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😂

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makes sense

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it overwrites current values with new value

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that dont exist

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and it has to keep up with the tame

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game

merry bay Sep 2, 2020, 5:39 PM

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nah trainers are already with setup pointers. They just look inside your memory and barely write anything

abstract kite Sep 2, 2020, 5:40 PM

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Really

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i lose like 40 fps

merry bay Sep 2, 2020, 5:40 PM

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if it were writing GB's you'd lose fps for several seconds

abstract kite Sep 2, 2020, 5:40 PM

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GWjianWut

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has any of the gpu manufacturers released prices for custom cooling cards

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ye5

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t

merry bay Sep 2, 2020, 5:44 PM

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too early imo. Seems just about the time to return to the waiting cave. This time for the NDA lift and reviews

abstract kite Sep 2, 2020, 5:45 PM

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ill expect next month

vapid crypt Sep 2, 2020, 5:45 PM

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Some will be MSRP

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Others add 30 - 50

abstract kite Sep 2, 2020, 5:45 PM

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I dont get whole

vapid crypt Sep 2, 2020, 5:45 PM

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That's how it always goes

abstract kite Sep 2, 2020, 5:45 PM

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xtreme and master

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i know for a fact xtreme costs 778€ over my boss

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the 20xx one

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altho aorus has new line up for 30xx

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for some reason there is 3080 xtreme and master

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im gonna assume xtreme stays 778-800€

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master is gonna be 700€?

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or it may be 800€ and master is 750

abstract kite Sep 2, 2020, 8:57 PM

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vapid crypt Sep 2, 2020, 9:22 PM

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F for availability bois

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Assuming its true, I expected this for the 3090; not for the 3080 phaSheva

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It could only apply to the FE models though

abstract kite Sep 2, 2020, 9:34 PM

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Probably because they wanna see reception.

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No reason to overproduce something that probably costs that much money only for it to undersell

vapid crypt Sep 2, 2020, 9:47 PM

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That makes sense for the 3090

merry bay Sep 2, 2020, 9:59 PM

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If it's gonna sell it's going to sell better before the consoles and AMD have something ready to buy. I don't think this was a deliberate shortage.

merry bay Sep 2, 2020, 10:22 PM

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it's quite a sight to see even new 2080Ti's swing between 650-750$ on ebay and such

abstract kite Sep 2, 2020, 10:26 PM

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first wave to test the waters

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second to saturate the market

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3080 future for all

vapid crypt Sep 2, 2020, 10:28 PM

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The 3070 being $500 was a conscious decision to disrupt consoles

late sorrel Sep 2, 2020, 10:33 PM

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yeah lol fuck the 2080ti i'm gunna ger a 3070

vapid crypt Sep 2, 2020, 10:34 PM

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Well yeah, why get an old card that has slower RTX Tech right?

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A 2080 Ti now would only be worth it if you can find one for $300 on the used market

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Which it will get there soon enough

merry bay Sep 2, 2020, 10:49 PM

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$300 for it is still helluva deal

vapid crypt Sep 2, 2020, 10:55 PM

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Sure, I look forward for the card being worth 1/4 of its MSRP by next Spring phaWesker

proper wren Sep 2, 2020, 11:29 PM

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time to sell my 2070 for 3080

abstract kite Sep 2, 2020, 11:31 PM

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implying anyone will buy it

proper wren Sep 2, 2020, 11:35 PM

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yep

vapid crypt Sep 2, 2020, 11:36 PM

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Told you to sell it 2 months ago phaSip

proper wren Sep 2, 2020, 11:36 PM

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if I cant then I just gift it to my brother lol

abstract kite Sep 2, 2020, 11:39 PM

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And how do you afford ur 3080 then

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fool that 2070 is urs forever

vapid crypt Sep 2, 2020, 11:40 PM

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Eh, save the cash and use the 2070 as it is. Might be better just to do that, you never know in 4 months there might be a 3080 Ti for a grand that's within 5% of the 3090

fleet canopy Sep 3, 2020, 12:52 AM

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Selling the 2070 Super for the 2080 ti, then selling the 2080 ti for 3070

merry bay Sep 3, 2020, 12:54 AM

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I'm willing to bet that's possible during this period

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one other discord I saw a guy feel bad for an auctioned 2080 they put up finished for $520

fleet canopy Sep 3, 2020, 1:00 AM

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I guess 520$ for a 2080 isn’t bad

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Unless he bought it

merry bay Sep 3, 2020, 1:01 AM

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he feels bad about selling it that high, but an auction is an auction

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he's even paranoid those aren't real bids and he's not getting any cash LULW

fleet canopy Sep 3, 2020, 1:11 AM

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Lmao

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He got the money to buy a 2080 ti now

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Oh I mean a 3070 👀

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It’s nice we’re getting better RTX performance compared to last one

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I wonder how well it runs Quake RTX as that’s the one game I had on 1440p with RTX running about 36FPS average

vapid crypt Sep 3, 2020, 1:31 AM

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Judging by Nvidia's marketing which isn't entirely reliable of course, RTX is probably twice the speed across the stack

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Still sus that they didn't compare the 2080 ti in those graphs though...

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They can't just claim the 3070 is faster without showing how much faster

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What am I saying, of course they can, all they need is a fancy graph that doesn't tell you anything phaWesker

fleet canopy Sep 3, 2020, 1:37 AM

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Didn’t leaks show that it was a 2080 Ti performer?

vapid crypt Sep 3, 2020, 1:37 AM

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Leaks alluded to that yeah, I just want actual numbers

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Not graphs that are mostly marketing

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The closest thing we have to a benchmark is that digital foundry video, which I still think is kind of disingenuous based on what I said before

fleet canopy Sep 3, 2020, 1:40 AM

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Well it’s pretty close to release, yeah? Wouldn’t be too long til then

vapid crypt Sep 3, 2020, 1:40 AM

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Yeah sometime in October

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For the 3070 that is

late sorrel Sep 3, 2020, 1:51 AM

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welp, looks like my 570 is worth nothing

merry bay Sep 3, 2020, 1:55 AM

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mid-low end cards seemed to go up in price, at least in my area. Probably the pandemic nudging some people to upgrade and causing a demand spike

fleet canopy Sep 3, 2020, 1:56 AM

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I guess so, because tech reviewers/benchmarkers like Linus was all like “buy GPU before hell takes over”

vapid crypt Sep 3, 2020, 1:57 AM

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That literally didn't even matter anyway outside of disrupting the market

fleet canopy Sep 3, 2020, 1:57 AM

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Only person I know of that knew the real good solution was Steve from Gamersnexus, recommending to not buy anything just because people said to

merry bay Sep 3, 2020, 1:57 AM

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i was thinking more along the lines that people spend more time inside, so they're better able to justify expenses on upgrades

fleet canopy Sep 3, 2020, 1:57 AM

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Ah, yeah I guess so

merry bay Sep 3, 2020, 2:00 AM

#

i feel attached to my GPU because I gutted it for a custom cooler. It's so much harder to sell it, both emotionally and because no one will pay the difference of the included cooler ^^

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holding on to it wouldn't make sense either

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~400€ for a really well cooled 1080ti (air)

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selling it today would be easy. Would love to do it a month or two from now though LULW

vapid crypt Sep 3, 2020, 2:03 AM

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Might as well keep it PirateSimon

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I'm gonna keep my 580 after replacing it, maybe I'll use it for a second build or something at some point

late sorrel Sep 3, 2020, 2:34 AM

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yea true

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Probably could pop it in a pc for my mum when she’ll get one

vapid crypt Sep 3, 2020, 4:17 AM

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I like the idea of having a back up graphics card just in case you need it too

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Shit could also put it in the second slot and have it run Folding @ Home

abstract kite Sep 3, 2020, 5:15 AM

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📎 missing-image.png

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If only

abstract kite Sep 3, 2020, 6:23 AM

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Would you guys say the b450 max is still worth it?

restive garnet Sep 3, 2020, 7:15 AM

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probably still worth, depending on price

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i'm not 100% familiar with AMD, MSI, or pricing for anything outside of NZ, but it still seemed like a decent deal last time i looked, and nothing has really changed since then

jade ermine Sep 3, 2020, 9:11 AM

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Made little size comparison between strix 3090 and 2070S black gaming from evga that represents reference design well

📎 strix_3090.jpg

dense wasp Sep 3, 2020, 9:32 AM

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chunky

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will be interesting to see how well the Founders edition cooler performs

jade ermine Sep 3, 2020, 11:41 AM

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Im sure its very comparable to 3 fan solutions

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also it looks way better

brisk badger Sep 3, 2020, 1:29 PM

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If someone ever plans to create a system to be used for real-time / low-latency workload; here is a very nice guide to bookmark: https://rigtorp.se/low-latency-guide/

dense wasp Sep 3, 2020, 1:44 PM

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@jade ermine you mean nvidias looks better? or thirdparty

vapid crypt Sep 3, 2020, 2:20 PM

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Making good use of that reduced PCB size

vapid crypt Sep 3, 2020, 3:03 PM

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https://twitter.com/HardwareUnboxed/status/1301124919812435968

brisk badger Sep 3, 2020, 3:08 PM

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You cant trust games list in general

vapid crypt Sep 3, 2020, 3:13 PM

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Why not? phaSheva

brisk badger Sep 3, 2020, 3:22 PM

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The results of a run will vary depending on the system. The os can have an impact plus the updates installed. Game can run with different version better or worse.

A benchmark is much better though not perfect either but at least its the same scenario.

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Some games even load stuff dynamically so its impossible to get the yame result

vapid crypt Sep 3, 2020, 3:24 PM

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I see what you're saying, yeah typically people that benchmark will do everything on a fresh install; so expecting a specific framerate average with the same specs always is a naïve way of looking at it.

brisk badger Sep 3, 2020, 3:24 PM

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Sure maybe we speak in the end of tbhe day of maybe a difference of 1-5 fps but if your job is actually this; find a better way 😁

vapid crypt Sep 3, 2020, 3:25 PM

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At the same time, it still gives you an idea of the difference between two cards, cpus; whatever.

brisk badger Sep 3, 2020, 3:25 PM

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E.g like using GTA is tricky because everytime you reload npcs may move different

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It does i just wish it states it clearly. Thats why i often like GN. They do really good testing

vapid crypt Sep 3, 2020, 3:26 PM

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They use GTA because its a popular game, considering how old it is I'm not even sure if its worth continuing to refer to it personally

brisk badger Sep 3, 2020, 3:26 PM

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Not sure about games often i skip this

jade ermine Sep 3, 2020, 3:58 PM

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@dense wasp Nvidias!

dense wasp Sep 3, 2020, 3:59 PM

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👍

vapid crypt Sep 3, 2020, 5:57 PM

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Who do you think I am?

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I'm no inside man phaWesker

#

The most we got was the other day from Tom Mooreslawisdead

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Which insinuated that Big Navi has more performance than everyone is expecting and is more efficient than everyone is expecting

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And there's a 3070 killer, and something at least competing with the 3080; admittedly that's based on Tom's opinion

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They as in Tom'sHardware phaWesker

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Well at least one of their writers

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"BUY IT NOW!"

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People are gonna talk, they're just drinking the marketing Kool-Aid

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My opinion is they won't be up there with the 3090, but they will be competing at price/performance with the 3070 3080 and possibly the sleeping 3080Ti

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A lot of people don't believe that idea, I'd like to think that you can only fall short for so long before you start seeing results

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So it sounds simple, but literally take the 5700XT; Double its Compute Units; double its memory bus, 50% more efficient, probably something like 10 - 15% more IPC and 20% higher clocks

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If that's not at least 3080 or even beating one then yeah AMD is kind of screwed phaWesker

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I think Big Navi would fall short of what a theoretical 3080 Ti might be

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While drawing less energy too

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So that's only better

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Well okay Best case then

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Cause just based on what we know about the performance of the Xbox Series X

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It was easily around 2080 Super performance, and that was months ago now who knows it isn't already closer to that of a 2080 Ti

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And that's a 52CU chip clocked at 1.8Ghz

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Based on the Ps5, they can push clocks to upwards of 2.3Ghz

abstract kite Sep 3, 2020, 6:10 PM

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@dense wasp you got a monent?

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Moment* godamit the phone keyboard...

vapid crypt Sep 3, 2020, 6:11 PM

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I mean just imagining where the performance of a 56CU Navi card clocked at 2.1Ghz or more is pretty tantalizing

abstract kite Sep 3, 2020, 6:11 PM

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How much fps will 3080 gonna score in gtfo?

brisk badger Sep 3, 2020, 6:11 PM

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imagine you could boot linux of ps5...hmmmm

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a nice pc for great money

vapid crypt Sep 3, 2020, 6:12 PM

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Maybe ask that in a few weeks, good chance he might have a 3080 on hand to work with

abstract kite Sep 3, 2020, 6:12 PM

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How much does 2080ti score in gtfo rn in 1080p

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👀

vapid crypt Sep 3, 2020, 6:12 PM

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1080p ConfusedUlf

abstract kite Sep 3, 2020, 6:13 PM

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shush

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dont judge me

vapid crypt Sep 3, 2020, 6:14 PM

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Well I'm sure he could give you an idea then since he has a 2080 Ti phaWesker

merry bay Sep 3, 2020, 6:14 PM

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seems like an empty question to me LULW
If he gets 200fps looking at a wall, what good is that info to you

vapid crypt Sep 3, 2020, 6:15 PM

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"Excuse me sir, would you mind benchmarking GTFO on your nifty Graphics card?" PirateSimon

abstract kite Sep 3, 2020, 6:15 PM

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👀

dense wasp Sep 3, 2020, 6:15 PM

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I don't play in 1080p

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ReversedConfusedUlf

abstract kite Sep 3, 2020, 6:15 PM

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ok ok

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4k andy

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xD

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rich

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GWmythicalFeelsSadMan

dense wasp Sep 3, 2020, 6:15 PM

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UW

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;P

abstract kite Sep 3, 2020, 6:15 PM

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okay how much fps

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👀

vapid crypt Sep 3, 2020, 6:16 PM

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I mean if you're using a $1200 graphics card it would be a waste on a 1080p panel

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Let alone 700

dense wasp Sep 3, 2020, 6:16 PM

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well, I haven't checked in a while - but I'm using Unity now and playing, and I have 110 fps,
but I usually have quite a bit more when playing the game through steam

vapid crypt Sep 3, 2020, 6:16 PM

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300 - 400 cards are basically capping 1080p for the most part

abstract kite Sep 3, 2020, 6:17 PM

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ok ludvig im expecting that 240 fps experience in ray tracing

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👀

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for 3080

dense wasp Sep 3, 2020, 6:17 PM

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my last benchmark gave me avg 215

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we don't do RT 😛

abstract kite Sep 3, 2020, 6:17 PM

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👀

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i see

vapid crypt Sep 3, 2020, 6:17 PM

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RT will be extra flavor for post release

abstract kite Sep 3, 2020, 6:17 PM

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Under NDA

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true

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👀 we know ludvig is gonna add it

dense wasp Sep 3, 2020, 6:18 PM

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what? we just don't have raytracing

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haha

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😄

abstract kite Sep 3, 2020, 6:18 PM

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mhm

dense wasp Sep 3, 2020, 6:18 PM

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hopefully someday!

abstract kite Sep 3, 2020, 6:18 PM

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Ur so suspicious

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👀

#

incoming ludvig leak that shows ray tracing

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👀 👀 👀

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anyways 215 is fine.. that means 3080 will be able to reach 300

vapid crypt Sep 3, 2020, 6:19 PM

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Unity would have to support DX 12 Ultimate first

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I guess it would work on Vulkan too

abstract kite Sep 3, 2020, 6:19 PM

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👀 orrrr gtfo transfers to unreal engine 5

vapid crypt Sep 3, 2020, 6:19 PM

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Ugh, that would just take longer

dense wasp Sep 3, 2020, 6:19 PM

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haha, that won't ever happen

#

Unity is plenty powerful

vapid crypt Sep 3, 2020, 6:19 PM

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changing engines entirely is a hassle

dense wasp Sep 3, 2020, 6:20 PM

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We just haven't had the time to focus on that yet,
The new render pipe we're working on will do magics

abstract kite Sep 3, 2020, 6:20 PM

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Isnt it possible to create manual ray tracing?

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👀

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le pipe

brisk badger Sep 3, 2020, 6:20 PM

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ludwig I really wish you put at one day an easteregg in a rundown dedicated for us geeks in this channel 😋

abstract kite Sep 3, 2020, 6:20 PM

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^^

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i wonder what it would be

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make like wall of names

vapid crypt Sep 3, 2020, 6:21 PM

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Wrecked PC that resembles his own phaWesker

abstract kite Sep 3, 2020, 6:21 PM

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cough

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or that

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LMAO

vapid crypt Sep 3, 2020, 6:21 PM

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"Aww yeah look at that beefy 3090"

abstract kite Sep 3, 2020, 6:21 PM

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uhh whoops wrong pic cough

#

WHAT

#

📎 Gigabyte-RTX-3080-3090-Eagle-Gaming-2.jpg

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getting dis :3

vapid crypt Sep 3, 2020, 6:22 PM

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New windforce or whatever its called

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Gaming Oc I dunno

abstract kite Sep 3, 2020, 6:22 PM

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ye gaming oc version

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i think its called Master or

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idfk

dense wasp Sep 3, 2020, 6:22 PM

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haha,
well, a geek easteregg that's very visable is the fans on the power cells

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they look just like GPU cooling

abstract kite Sep 3, 2020, 6:23 PM

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👀

#

they actually do

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XDDDDD

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I was like waait a second

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why tf does it look like it has a fan

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it reminds me of old titan xp

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was it taken by titan xp?

dense wasp Sep 3, 2020, 6:23 PM

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I'm getting the 3090 founders edition most likely

abstract kite Sep 3, 2020, 6:23 PM

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wow not even 3090 kingpin

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pffft

dense wasp Sep 3, 2020, 6:24 PM

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I believe more in Nvidias new cooling then the kingpin tbh

#

but we'll see

vapid crypt Sep 3, 2020, 6:24 PM

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3090 Kingpin, holy shit how much would that draw like 550W phaWesker

dense wasp Sep 3, 2020, 6:24 PM

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I'd happy to be proven wrong

abstract kite Sep 3, 2020, 6:24 PM

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I mean i want that heater man

vapid crypt Sep 3, 2020, 6:24 PM

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Cause the point of Kingpin is to push Overclocking to the limit right?

abstract kite Sep 3, 2020, 6:24 PM

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its winter

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:_: i dont wanna be cold

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ill keep my feet warm

vapid crypt Sep 3, 2020, 6:25 PM

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I live in a place where its basically never winter

abstract kite Sep 3, 2020, 6:25 PM

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😂

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Hawai

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carribbian islands

vapid crypt Sep 3, 2020, 6:25 PM

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Its either Fucking Hot or Moderately pleasant

abstract kite Sep 3, 2020, 6:25 PM

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lucky

vapid crypt Sep 3, 2020, 6:25 PM

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Sometimes there's a cold front in the Winter

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But the coldest on average is probably 10C

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Actually 15C

abstract kite Sep 3, 2020, 6:26 PM

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ludvig how much is 3090 in sweden

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FE

vapid crypt Sep 3, 2020, 6:26 PM

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Also I'm in South Florida PirateSimon

abstract kite Sep 3, 2020, 6:26 PM

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dude the coldest in croatia is like -11

dense wasp Sep 3, 2020, 6:26 PM

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3090 will most likely be $2000 here

abstract kite Sep 3, 2020, 6:26 PM

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Wonderful

dense wasp Sep 3, 2020, 6:26 PM

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or slightly more

vapid crypt Sep 3, 2020, 6:26 PM

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The VAT

dense wasp Sep 3, 2020, 6:26 PM

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ye

abstract kite Sep 3, 2020, 6:26 PM

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yea im fkd then

dense wasp Sep 3, 2020, 6:27 PM

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it's american price +25%, then some extra ontop

abstract kite Sep 3, 2020, 6:27 PM

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yeah we have 25 too

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GWmythicalFeelsSadMan

dense wasp Sep 3, 2020, 6:27 PM

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I'd have to ask Jacob at EVGA when the titan is coming

abstract kite Sep 3, 2020, 6:28 PM

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👀

dense wasp Sep 3, 2020, 6:28 PM

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not titan sorry

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kingpin

abstract kite Sep 3, 2020, 6:28 PM

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titan i see

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GWjianWut

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what else is ludvig hiding

#

do we get a buddy discount xD

dense wasp Sep 3, 2020, 6:29 PM

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haha

abstract kite Sep 3, 2020, 6:29 PM

#

GWcorbinTopKek

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It sucks man croatia is so badd tech wise and living wise

#

2080ti max price in croatia reached 2200$

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lowest priced 2080TI is like 1800$

dense wasp Sep 3, 2020, 6:32 PM

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the 3090 kingpins looks pretty badass thou

abstract kite Sep 3, 2020, 6:32 PM

#

👀

#

get it

#

also my buddy discount

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cough*

#

😂 😂 😂

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i dont wanna pay 500$ just cause i live in ei

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eu

restive garnet Sep 3, 2020, 7:02 PM

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You think american price +25% is bad? Over here its closer to +50%

#

And our gst is only 15%

#

Its 1.50:1 NZD:USD over here, yet a 1300 USD card cost us like 2600 NZD

#

General rule of thumb for working out prices over here is just double it

#

My 1080ti when i bought it cost 1600 nzd at retail, while the msrp was like 800 usd

#

Sounds about right

#

Leaves me really salty though

#

Same

#

Getting a delid kit shipped from the US cost me like 30 bucks

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For what amount to something smaller than like 4 dvd cases

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And thats without shipping insurance

#

Which i would defo want on a 1000+ dollar order

#

Plus we charge luxury good tax on anything over 150 nzd

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Pretty much

#

And if the launch is anything like rtx2k

#

Probably almost 50/50 whether you have to return it or not

#

Lmao

#

Had a mate a few years back

#

Left his pc under his desk

#

Combination of damp and dust killed his psu 3 times in two weeks

#

Same

#

Big slab of glass and steel

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Be a shame to hide it under my desk

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Plus it probs wouldnt fit

fleet canopy Sep 3, 2020, 7:22 PM

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Hm.

restive garnet Sep 3, 2020, 7:23 PM

#

I used to have one of my rigs under the desk, kept accidentally hitting the power button

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Lmao

#

Worst part is, it wasnt even easy to hit

#

But i still did it at least 3 times

#

I keep all my old pc parts, coz they depreciate so quickly

#

Id rather keep them for projects later down the line

#

I mostly use mitx mobos

#

So space isnt to much of an issue

#

Im ashamed to admit i dont

#

I kept my 1080ti box

#

Thats the reason i dont

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Lmao

#

I sold my case boxes, coz they are huge

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Particularly my 680x box

#

Sorry, got rid of

#

I kept my monitor box tho

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1700 dollar monitor

#

I ususally keep boxes more or less on price

#

And box quality

#

Same

#

Still have it though

#

And its an ultrawide monitor

#

So box is massive

merry bay Sep 3, 2020, 7:29 PM

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Keeping monitor box was perfect for safe transport to LAN's. Figuring that stuff out can be a headache or a gamble otherwise

restive garnet Sep 3, 2020, 7:29 PM

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Actually, when i upgrade my tv, this one is gunna become a table

#

Lmao

#

I figure a 65 inch tv is gunna make a decent sized dining table

#

Build a box on legs for it with a glass top

#

Maybe stick a raspberry pi in with a top down aquarium loop playing

dense wasp Sep 3, 2020, 8:14 PM

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I threw my 2080 ti box away

#

felt like a crime

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haha

#

Or i've thrown a bunch of them now

fiery panther Sep 3, 2020, 8:17 PM

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I still have my pc part boxes

#

Nah it's more of emotional worth

restive garnet Sep 3, 2020, 8:30 PM

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I mean, my 1080ti is a rog strix model, dont think id get much for it now

#

A few months back i probably could have gotten near retail for it

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Now im just planning on using it for an htpc

abstract kite Sep 3, 2020, 9:01 PM

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I have a few old ROG products laying about

abstract kite Sep 3, 2020, 10:06 PM

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i think im gonna have to go with gigabyte aorus 3080 or 3070 this time... their cooling system looks much more convenient.

restive garnet Sep 3, 2020, 11:35 PM

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So i notice that the rtx3k cards all are able to run on pcie4, but noones really talking about any potential performance difference

jade ermine Sep 3, 2020, 11:35 PM

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Going with FE or Asus model this time. EVGA ones have too long PCB

restive garnet Sep 3, 2020, 11:36 PM

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Kinda an awkward thing when only modern amd boards have pcie4, so itd sorta be nice to know sooner rather than later

late sorrel Sep 3, 2020, 11:39 PM

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probably isn’t much, considering 8x vs 16x doesn’t make a big difference to gpu’s anyway

merry bay Sep 3, 2020, 11:43 PM

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It becomes interesting because the 2080ti was the card that was very close or even exceeded the theoretical max of pcie 3.0.
3000series obviously shooting higher, so it's very curious to see actual testing.

vapid crypt Sep 3, 2020, 11:50 PM

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I think it will only be relevant in certain cases, but not at every single game or workload

#

The extra bandwidth might make the difference when driving 8k, who knows phaWesker

merry bay Sep 4, 2020, 12:05 AM

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Show performance for lower resolutions under 4k bongoTap

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Such an uneasy wait because if it's good enough I need to get rid of this 1080ti now

#

already got a spare 1060 6GB(wasn't enough for cravings)

restive garnet Sep 4, 2020, 12:08 AM

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Im in the same boat, but i suddenly find myself with no spare gpu

#

So i have nothing to use till i get a new card

#

And my monitor is not something i would use a cheap card with

abstract kite Sep 4, 2020, 12:09 AM

#

I wonder if I should upgrade to say the 3070 form the 5700XT

#

It aint a bad card...

restive garnet Sep 4, 2020, 12:09 AM

#

Hesitantly, i want to say yes

#

But at the end of the day

abstract kite Sep 4, 2020, 12:10 AM

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I am gonna wait for a month

restive garnet Sep 4, 2020, 12:10 AM

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Wait for independant benchmarks

merry bay Sep 4, 2020, 12:10 AM

#

All depends how hard you're itching for more performance

#

I know people that are content with what they have. It's very subjective

restive garnet Sep 4, 2020, 12:10 AM

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True enough

#

But id wager it wont be long till you are itching for more

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One way or another

merry bay Sep 4, 2020, 12:11 AM

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If you play any newer games every now and then, sure.

restive garnet Sep 4, 2020, 12:11 AM

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Games are getting thirstier and thirstier by the day

abstract kite Sep 4, 2020, 12:12 AM

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I am getting smooth graphics for the most part, but I dislike the 5700XT's heat problems.

restive garnet Sep 4, 2020, 12:12 AM

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What model did you get?

merry bay Sep 4, 2020, 12:12 AM

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From the looks of it 3000series could be toasty. Hard to say how it goes when it's not pushed near limits

restive garnet Sep 4, 2020, 12:12 AM

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Higher power consumption, but beefier coolers

abstract kite Sep 4, 2020, 12:13 AM

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Well the 5700XT is "Expected" to reach 110c and be fine... that doesnt seem fine to me. xD

restive garnet Sep 4, 2020, 12:13 AM

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Gunna have to wait and see how it plays out

abstract kite Sep 4, 2020, 12:13 AM

#

I have reached close to those temps before

restive garnet Sep 4, 2020, 12:13 AM

#

Y I K E S

merry bay Sep 4, 2020, 12:13 AM

#

The heat still ends up in your room ^^
Even if the cooler seems to do ok.

#

but it is more pleasant if it's not staying at high temps and cooling ok

restive garnet Sep 4, 2020, 12:14 AM

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It does, but situationally negligible

abstract kite Sep 4, 2020, 12:14 AM

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Metro Exodus be pushing me GPU hard xD

restive garnet Sep 4, 2020, 12:14 AM

#

Most of the time the natural airflow of the room will outdo your computer

#

Only if you like to shut all your doors and windows is it gunna make a significant difference to room temp

#

Which full disclosure, i do

#

Because its winter

#

And i spend all night gaming anyway

#

Lmao

#

Though it does surprise me how much heat those 5700s put off

#

Running overwatch at 4k60 ultra settings in a rig with terrible airflow on my 1080ti i was only hitting like 95

#

Granted, thermal throttling would have kicked in

#

But it was still running fairly well for the temperature

merry bay Sep 4, 2020, 12:29 AM

#

i slapped an Accelero Xtreme IV on it, occasional peaks of 82, but overall stays ~76 when hammered.
4K DSR or something like Kingdom Come/Modern Warfare

#

not a good look but perf is juicy. Still throttles a tiny bit despite it all

#

I tend to use 1080p for faster games, so it doesn't get toasty often.

#

e. x. main game Heroes of the Storm, never go above 40

#

Am guilty of creating a swampy cave with closed doors as well

restive garnet Sep 4, 2020, 12:37 AM

#

I run a 100 hz 3440x1440 monitor, and most games leave the card in the mid 60s

#

Bought a bunch of new cooling stuff a week back, probs gunna install it this weekend when the last few tidbits arrive, and pump out a couple of hefty overclocks, see what kind of performance i can squeeze out while maintaining good temps

dusty pumice Sep 4, 2020, 12:40 AM

#

What Monitor do you have Ulf?

merry bay Sep 4, 2020, 12:42 AM

#

Originally was the MSI Armor card. It's such a terribly unfit cooler for a 1080ti.

restive garnet Sep 4, 2020, 3:35 AM

#

Asus rog pg348q

#

34 inch 3440x1440 @ 100hz

eternal cairn Sep 4, 2020, 3:47 AM

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100hz?

#

Never seen a monitor with such a specific refresh rate before.

#

I wonder how many different refresh rates there are.

dense wasp Sep 4, 2020, 7:32 AM

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a bunch

#

hehe

#

I run mine at a very specific 175 atm

eternal cairn Sep 4, 2020, 7:32 AM

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Such a perfectly divisible number.

dense wasp Sep 4, 2020, 7:33 AM

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indeed!

#

which I run in 3840x1600, which is also somewhat odd

eternal cairn Sep 4, 2020, 7:34 AM

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Ooh, semi-widescreen.

#

I need another monitor, but I wouldn't know where to put it. I have no desk room. 😅

dense wasp Sep 4, 2020, 7:36 AM

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I mean I wouldn't mind trying the LG 48 OLED as a computer monitor somewhere down the line

eternal cairn Sep 4, 2020, 7:36 AM

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Is it 4K?

dense wasp Sep 4, 2020, 7:37 AM

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the LG is

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or the 48" I mean

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the screen I'm using now is also LG

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but a 38"

eternal cairn Sep 4, 2020, 7:38 AM

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I think my Samsung is 32 inches and 4K. I wonder how well that resolution would look at 48 inches.

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And if you're sitting at least 4 feet away.

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I finally settled with my AOC 24G2 after returning it on Amazon like 4 times. 😄

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1080p 144hz with Freesync and (semi) G-Sync compatibility.

dense wasp Sep 4, 2020, 7:41 AM

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24" would be to smol for me

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😄

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I mean I have 2 like, 15" or something

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but as a standard monitor I'd gotten used to having really big ones

eternal cairn Sep 4, 2020, 7:42 AM

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How close do you sit to your monitor?

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Also, 15"? 👀

dense wasp Sep 4, 2020, 7:42 AM

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armslenght

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let me show you my setup if you haven't seen it

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one sec, I have a pic here somewhere

eternal cairn Sep 4, 2020, 7:43 AM

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Huh. 27 inches seemed too big for me, and my last monitor was 24 inches. It's hard being able to play games and do stuff on a monitor that exceeds my field of view.

dense wasp Sep 4, 2020, 7:43 AM

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📎 EfYfd2dWAAEPJyA.jpg

eternal cairn Sep 4, 2020, 7:44 AM

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Blue backlight is a good choice.

dense wasp Sep 4, 2020, 7:44 AM

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38",+ 2x 15", + a 27" if I remember correnctly

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the backlight is from the 38", haha, it has some RGB, I always keep it white thou 😉

eternal cairn Sep 4, 2020, 7:44 AM

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RGB monitors. feliciaKappa

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It all looks like it fits perfectly!

dense wasp Sep 4, 2020, 7:45 AM

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I have 5 computers in there, so it somehwat needs to

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haha

eternal cairn Sep 4, 2020, 7:45 AM

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Are the two 15" connected?

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Like attached to each other?

dense wasp Sep 4, 2020, 7:53 AM

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no they are seperate screens for 2 computers

eternal cairn Sep 4, 2020, 7:53 AM

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Oh, nice.

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I only got two computers: my PC and a Pixelbook.

dense wasp Sep 4, 2020, 7:55 AM

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pff

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😉

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8m2 with 5 computers

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without windows or proper airflow

eternal cairn Sep 4, 2020, 7:56 AM

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Oof.

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On the bright side, you probably don't need to turn on the heater during winter.

dense wasp Sep 4, 2020, 8:22 AM

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that is true!

clear quartz Sep 4, 2020, 8:39 AM

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I only have my laptop with a 4 year old GPU

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funny how in 4 years a used to be top end GPU gets to mid tier so quick

vapid crypt Sep 4, 2020, 10:51 AM

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Not really, it used to be every year or two a decade+ ago

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But then again most of the flagship cards weren't over a grand usually

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The closest I can think of was the 8800 Ultra

clear quartz Sep 4, 2020, 11:26 AM

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i just remember when the gtx 10X0 series was the top of the line

vapid crypt Sep 4, 2020, 11:43 AM

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Before Ampere, Pascal was a pretty big leap. I mean it was the same then actually; literally the year after the 980Ti came out the 1080 was like 25% faster

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Kind of impressive considering it was only a mid-range die

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And all they did is shrunk the process node, gave it way faster memory, cut the SMs down and brought clockspeeds up

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Ampere kind of comes close to that, but it does so at the detriment of efficiency. So that tells me if they were more so for efficiency the performance leap wouldn't be as interesting. phaSheva

sick reef Sep 4, 2020, 11:52 AM

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That's usually the deal you make, until you can make meaningful architectural difference that negates that, and so the wheel spins.

vapid crypt Sep 4, 2020, 11:54 AM

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It is a decent architectural change. with a more advanced node to make things more efficient I can see an Ampere refresh looking really good. This is basically Fermi again after 12 years kinda

brisk badger Sep 4, 2020, 1:07 PM

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CUDA 🤢 vs GCN 😎

vapid crypt Sep 4, 2020, 1:08 PM

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Open CL right? Too bad every software developer have been adopting Cuda

brisk badger Sep 4, 2020, 1:12 PM

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I am just joking, both are great and yes CUDA offers developers more. Both are the underlying "framework" or better the instruction for the respective gpu's

OpenCL is or should be supported by both

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I wish vulkan gets adopted more and more. It's great alternative to directx

vapid crypt Sep 4, 2020, 1:37 PM

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I would say its superior actually, but when it comes to APIs that should just be ignored for the most part its OpenGL phaWesker

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Its still used in emulators and stuff I guess, but for proper games if that's the only API available that's pretty shit ngl PirateSimon

brisk badger Sep 4, 2020, 1:38 PM

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it is but microsoft will not like this and probably make it very difficult for vulkan to succeed

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AFAIK opengl is pretty much dead

vapid crypt Sep 4, 2020, 1:39 PM

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Probably been a few years, I know Doom 2016 defaulted to OpenGL but it also had Vulkan so there's that

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AMD GPU's don't do as well on OpenGL compared to Nvidia for whatever reason.

dense wasp Sep 4, 2020, 3:20 PM

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haha

merry bay Sep 4, 2020, 3:29 PM

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📎 v8hxfe08g0l51.png

abstract kite Sep 4, 2020, 3:35 PM

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: )

jade ermine Sep 4, 2020, 3:36 PM

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Gigabyte card is even bigger than that

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📎 aorus_30902.jpg

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📎 aorus3090.jpg

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Pretty sure this is 4 slot or almost 4 slots :D

vapid crypt Sep 4, 2020, 3:38 PM

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I've said this elsewhere, but I'll say it again. PCI-e armor be dammed, nothing will stop that monstrosity from sagging; not even a bracket phaWesker

abstract kite Sep 4, 2020, 3:44 PM

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No one asks why a 2x4 is holding up my GPU

abstract kite Sep 4, 2020, 4:16 PM

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Hey Hobo Engineering at its finest.

vapid crypt Sep 4, 2020, 4:44 PM

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https://www.igorslab.de/en/why-the-force-rtx-3080-founders-edition-to-start-at-17-09-2020-something-might-be-quite-shortaged-for-temporary/

abstract kite Sep 4, 2020, 5:07 PM

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i just want to know the lenght XD

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they are all atleast 295mm

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which means they wont fit in my case

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nice...

vapid crypt Sep 4, 2020, 5:11 PM

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The 3090s?

abstract kite Sep 4, 2020, 5:11 PM

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3080

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📎 unknown.png

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📎 unknown.png

vapid crypt Sep 4, 2020, 5:11 PM

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How long is the FE model?

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Wait what's your case?

abstract kite Sep 4, 2020, 5:12 PM

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**The card measures 285 mm in length, 112 mm in width, and features a dual-slot cooling solution. Its price at launch was 699 US Dollars.
**

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this is the FE

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so only FE can fit inside my case

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my case is Zalman Z11 plus

vapid crypt Sep 4, 2020, 5:14 PM

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What's the alleged max length?

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Oh I see here it says 290mm, is there any way to get a little extra space you think?

abstract kite Sep 4, 2020, 5:14 PM

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i can take a pic but im not sure i can saw this shit off

vapid crypt Sep 4, 2020, 5:15 PM

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I suppose without a Dremel that's not happening

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I just saw the interior

abstract kite Sep 4, 2020, 5:16 PM

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📎 20200904_191543.jpg

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there is like atleast 1cm

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and considering that 3080 is gonna be thicker

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its gonna be like atleast 5cm in height

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than what i have rn

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📎 7950-front.png

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📎 unknown.png

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lemme just compare XD

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yeaaah its gonna be like 295mm

vapid crypt Sep 4, 2020, 5:18 PM

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Just look at the dimensions

abstract kite Sep 4, 2020, 5:18 PM

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there is non for gigabyte YET

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see

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📎 unknown.png

vapid crypt Sep 4, 2020, 5:19 PM

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They put out images without dimensions?

abstract kite Sep 4, 2020, 5:19 PM

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well for some yes

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🙄

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XD the cards look so huge man

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im actually fucking so disappointed

vapid crypt Sep 4, 2020, 5:21 PM

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Hotter cards, bigger coolers

abstract kite Sep 4, 2020, 5:21 PM

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no not with that

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with my case

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im a stupid ass bag

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who decided to go for zalman cause it was apealing

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but the case is from 2005

vapid crypt Sep 4, 2020, 5:22 PM

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Really? It looks a little newer than that

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Unless the replace it at some point

abstract kite Sep 4, 2020, 5:22 PM

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no i mean

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manufacturing begun

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the case is already old age style

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if i were to go for one case this dude told me

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i would have 380mm gpu lenght

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i wouldnt have to worry about getting new case

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etc

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setting up new pc

vapid crypt Sep 4, 2020, 5:23 PM

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Sure, but would that be worth it is the question

abstract kite Sep 4, 2020, 5:24 PM

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probably not considering my mental health is

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causing me to hate on gaming

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internet n all

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i dont find life living like this amusing

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i will probs give out like 1200€ atleast on whole new gpu and setup

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and then regret it

vapid crypt Sep 4, 2020, 5:25 PM

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Okay, I mean I don't know what that has to do with a computer case rushxcWut

abstract kite Sep 4, 2020, 5:25 PM

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cause i want to get phanteks 500A smth

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that has lenght of like 400+mm

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but that case costs 110€

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which means

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110€ + 900€

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and i will regret getting new case and gpu and setting it all up for what

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not to feel satisfaction as i used to

brisk badger Sep 4, 2020, 5:26 PM

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why do you even bother now. It's not available and maybe custom cards will be released which fit more of your need. Or AMD releases something so great you completlely forget

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just chill, worry the night before you do the purchase

vapid crypt Sep 4, 2020, 5:26 PM

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I think just buy a Dremel and cut a notch in the cage there to fit the card if it happens not to fit

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Like that would be the cheapest solution

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Or get the 3070 and forget about it

brisk badger Sep 4, 2020, 5:27 PM

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yup. Or dremel the fucking GPU cooler 😋

abstract kite Sep 4, 2020, 5:27 PM

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the thing here is i can probs go for 3080 with two fans or smth

vapid crypt Sep 4, 2020, 5:27 PM

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I mean that would be more than enough for high refresh 1080p

abstract kite Sep 4, 2020, 5:27 PM

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but i dont want a two fan gpu

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or even one fan

vapid crypt Sep 4, 2020, 5:28 PM

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Imagine a single fan on a 320w card

abstract kite Sep 4, 2020, 5:28 PM

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ugh thats not bothering me at all

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i dont mind the temps unless they are causing my gpu to die

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the thing that bothers me is the looks the most

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:/

vapid crypt Sep 4, 2020, 5:28 PM

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Well I just mean that doesn't exist

abstract kite Sep 4, 2020, 5:29 PM

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dammit

brisk badger Sep 4, 2020, 5:29 PM

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technically it could. You probably just need a massive heatpipe leading somewhere outside. And it will look ugly

abstract kite Sep 4, 2020, 5:29 PM

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thats worse than

brisk badger Sep 4, 2020, 5:29 PM

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and cost a fortune, with the amount of copper

abstract kite Sep 4, 2020, 5:29 PM

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buying two fan gpu

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i doubt ill even continue the trend with new gpus and internet life

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i dont think any life is good

vapid crypt Sep 4, 2020, 5:29 PM

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The FE model is at least interesting

abstract kite Sep 4, 2020, 5:29 PM

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i think i will confine myself in house

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i guess

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do nothing

brisk badger Sep 4, 2020, 5:30 PM

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the older you get, the less you care about new hardware releases IMO

abstract kite Sep 4, 2020, 5:30 PM

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correct

brisk badger Sep 4, 2020, 5:30 PM

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just get something that you can play the games you want

abstract kite Sep 4, 2020, 5:30 PM

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im feeling terrible cause i know i dont have money to just cash out XD

brisk badger Sep 4, 2020, 5:30 PM

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I think for personal usage I never bought any high end GPU. Mid-tiers were always great for me

abstract kite Sep 4, 2020, 5:31 PM

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true

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i regret buying 240hz

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should have gone for 1440p 165hz

brisk badger Sep 4, 2020, 5:31 PM

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i made the same mistake with 144 and my previous card. It could not handle it

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240hz is ambitious but maybe you can use it in some years and now have like 165 or 144hz

abstract kite Sep 4, 2020, 5:32 PM

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GWsetmyxPeepoSad i cant go back

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GWsetmyxPeepoSad

brisk badger Sep 4, 2020, 5:32 PM

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well you can just turn it down. But I assume you have a 1080p monitor and want 1440p

abstract kite Sep 4, 2020, 5:33 PM

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tbh

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i just want 240 or even more than that

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it would have been fine

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i would just cash in money for gpu

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done

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no problem

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but

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nah nvm forget it

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fuck it not keepign this up

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ending the whole life i knew before

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changing my entire ID and shit

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too much to handle

brisk badger Sep 4, 2020, 5:34 PM

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just wait a month and see what happens with AMD. Maybe Nvidia is forced to change their pricing again

abstract kite Sep 4, 2020, 5:34 PM

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the only way i see it

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bitcoin miners will mass buy

vapid crypt Sep 4, 2020, 5:34 PM

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I don't think they'll change the pricing

abstract kite Sep 4, 2020, 5:34 PM

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nvidia increase prices

brisk badger Sep 4, 2020, 5:34 PM

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no mining will not increase price as long as cryptocurrency prices are low-ish

vapid crypt Sep 4, 2020, 5:35 PM

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Hypothetically say AMD beats the 3080, assuming AMD asks for more than a 3080 which they likely would all Nvidia has to do is release a 3080 Ti cutdown from the 3090 with 20GB of Vram; charge a grand and call it a day

brisk badger Sep 4, 2020, 5:36 PM

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my small mining farm from like 9 years ago :p most I had was 6x AMD 7970 and some others I can't remember

📎 IMG_5259.JPG

abstract kite Sep 4, 2020, 5:37 PM

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👀

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the truth is i never had passion for it all

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i wish i can go back to the day where i played tf2 day and day and day

vapid crypt Sep 4, 2020, 5:38 PM

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Play TF2 Classic phaSip

brisk badger Sep 4, 2020, 5:38 PM

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was fun but in the end people just want to make money and will always betray you.

today the decentralized vision of mining is very centralized

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Unreal Tournament 2004 I miss those days

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School -> UT2k4 -> Sleep -> UT2k4 ->School ->UT2k4 -> Sleep and repeat

vapid crypt Sep 4, 2020, 5:39 PM

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The game in my case was probably Runescape

brisk badger Sep 4, 2020, 5:40 PM

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runescape ❤️

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so many great older games. Often memory makes them better as well but still

vapid crypt Sep 4, 2020, 5:41 PM

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I'd rather play janky Runescape in 2005/2006 than the shell that is Runescape 3

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I guess that's what Oldschool is for though

abstract kite Sep 4, 2020, 5:42 PM

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😭

restive garnet Sep 4, 2020, 8:31 PM

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i considered getting into mining, but it just wasnt worth it over here

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both power and equipment is disproportionately expensive here

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i worked out the total day to day costs of a mining rig, and it came out to a net of like $1 profit/day

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and i knew at the time that bitcoin was gunna be a really volatile market

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didnt really wanna risk being left high and dry when it inevitably crashed

brisk badger Sep 4, 2020, 8:34 PM

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tbh if I had bought the coins directly from an exchange i would have made 4x as much, at least. I still made profit but and ofc I would have had to buy at the right but I basically. It never was super lucrative but in the first maybe. There was just too many mining farms from china that increased the difficult to mine drastically

restive garnet Sep 4, 2020, 8:34 PM

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im just annoyed that i didnt buy bitcoins when i first looked at it

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some 50 odd cents a coin

brisk badger Sep 4, 2020, 8:35 PM

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sadly there is too many speculators making this nice innovation too fragile

restive garnet Sep 4, 2020, 8:35 PM

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figured it was a cool concept, but wasnt sure how well it would do

brisk badger Sep 4, 2020, 8:35 PM

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yep I think i discovered it first when it was 20-50usd but did not paid much attention

restive garnet Sep 4, 2020, 8:36 PM

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one of my colleagues asked me for advice on how to invest in bitcoin

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coz it was all over the news

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and i just turned around and said dont

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week later it crashed

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lmao

brisk badger Sep 4, 2020, 8:36 PM

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yea when everyone jumps on board the big guys cash out 😕

restive garnet Sep 4, 2020, 8:36 PM

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basically a giant pyramid scheme

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not that the guy who invented bitcoin intended it to be like that

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thats purely on speculative investors

brisk badger Sep 4, 2020, 8:37 PM

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more like a decentralized system where 10% own 90% of the available coins (like in real life hehe)

restive garnet Sep 4, 2020, 8:38 PM

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i always saw it more like a pyramid

brisk badger Sep 4, 2020, 8:38 PM

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there is also so many different coins out. many failed many are copies or nonsense yet people invest into

restive garnet Sep 4, 2020, 8:38 PM

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everyone wants to get in on the new bitcoin early

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try get that thousand fold return

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sort of funny, because the bitcoin bubble bursting basically killed all crypto

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speculative investors learnt their lesson the first time round

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sadly, i know a few people that lost a lot of money

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ironically, at the time i was advising people to invest in a particular pair of energy companies here

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since then, one of them has doubled its value, and the other has tripled

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lmao

vapid crypt Sep 4, 2020, 9:27 PM

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I want to know more about Navi and all we get so far is this lousy Fortnite Easter Egg phaWesker

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More Easter Eggs possibly phaSheva https://twitter.com/AzorFrank/status/1301859512136142848

merry bay Sep 4, 2020, 9:34 PM

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is that a slight mockery of intel's "something big is coming"

vapid crypt Sep 4, 2020, 9:38 PM

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Possibly, I mean I never heard of Intel using that Tagline personally

fleet canopy Sep 4, 2020, 11:42 PM

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That seems like the dumbest way to do it but I guess it works

vapid crypt Sep 4, 2020, 11:47 PM

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I dunno if I would call it the dumbest, but yeah It kind of is phaWesker

abstract kite Sep 5, 2020, 1:48 AM

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RX 6000 thicc

vapid crypt Sep 5, 2020, 1:49 AM

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Not nearly as thicc as that 3090 PirateSimon

abstract kite Sep 5, 2020, 1:50 AM

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Oven baked slanting

prime trail Sep 5, 2020, 2:13 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rTY6YH

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Does this GPU make any sense with this build

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It doesnt matter to me much if its underpowered as long as its not 'severely' underpowered

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the rest of the components are bought second hand off of a friend so i dont intend to change them

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all im buying new is the GPU and PSU

vapid crypt Sep 5, 2020, 2:21 AM

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The GPU is fine tbh, probably aren't gonna see anything new in that price point til' next quarter

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Though that I noticed primarily is all the mismatched memory

prime trail Sep 5, 2020, 2:23 AM

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thats just what my friend had

vapid crypt Sep 5, 2020, 2:24 AM

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It might be okay as long as you can match the clockspeed and timings

abstract kite Sep 5, 2020, 2:33 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/b/gZYTwP

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jfc

abstract kite Sep 5, 2020, 2:56 AM

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<@&408548765599793173>

void perch Sep 5, 2020, 2:56 AM

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alerady on it

abstract kite Sep 5, 2020, 2:56 AM

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just letting u know he said stuff here is all

void perch Sep 5, 2020, 2:59 AM

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Yeah we go through and search all of their history so all we need is one ping to bring the user to our attention. Thanks for letting us know.

abstract kite Sep 5, 2020, 3:00 AM

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ok please keep the bad shitposters out

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they spook

vapid crypt Sep 5, 2020, 4:07 AM

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Shitters up to no good when I'm not around PirateSimon

abstract kite Sep 5, 2020, 4:07 AM

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post cursed PC builds

fleet canopy Sep 5, 2020, 4:40 AM

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Like spider nest in PC, cockroaches, too much RGB?

abstract kite Sep 5, 2020, 4:54 AM

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yes

tardy jackal Sep 5, 2020, 5:05 AM

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I need help picking out a motherboard

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/k39qDx

I have this but not sure if that's a good MB. I like asus

pale prairie Sep 5, 2020, 5:13 AM

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There a release time for the 3080s? Or just some time during the 17th?

fleet canopy Sep 5, 2020, 5:22 AM

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iirc higher end will be mid-late September and lower end like 3070 gets to October

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Silly I say the 3070 is lower end, but I just mean that the 3080 and above goes September at some point, 3070 and lower will come October

eternal cairn Sep 5, 2020, 5:51 AM

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It's lame how they stagger releases like that.

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I know what the intent is, but it's not like it's a valid excuse for them to do it.

tardy jackal Sep 5, 2020, 5:54 AM

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no one?

tardy jackal Sep 5, 2020, 6:47 AM

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internalscreaming

eternal cairn Sep 5, 2020, 6:51 AM

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Honestly, the only things that matters with a motherboard are: if it's compatible with your CPU, what kind of memory it supports, # of memory slots, and what other kind of slots it has.

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Oh, and # of PCIE slots and if it has slots for SSDs.

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But if you want my opinion, the motherboard you currently have selected looks good. Could use a few more USB ports, but I'm not sure if you'll find any motherboard at around the same price range.

tardy jackal Sep 5, 2020, 6:54 AM

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I suppose I dont plan anything past the m.2

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I've survived currently on a 120 ssd and 1 tb hdd lol

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I'm only going to need...4 total USBs? So as long as theres 4...I didnt check..I'd be okay.

eternal cairn Sep 5, 2020, 6:58 AM

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1 USB 2.0 and 2 USB 3.2 ports.