If I got the 3090 I would just keep going and get a kitted out oculus.
#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk
abstract kite
^
same here
It's going to go down a bit as soon as it hits the market here, that's for sure.
Ill see how reception is, sometimes these cards brick shit
vapid crypt
Even if I were loaded, I don't like the idea of frivolous spending like that. I think even if I had millions I would still just get whatever is best for price/performance. 
Easier said I suppose, but I don't have millions so I don't know 
abstract kite
nothing would change much with me if i was handed millions.
merry bay
If I was loaded and getting something better decreased stutter frequency or eliminated it, I'd splurge. It's kinda subjective at the end of the day
abstract kite
i'd probably just buy a top of the line rig, have a detached house/shed turned into a gaming area with a smol basement for a server
and just chill like that, host lan parties and servers for games and shit
id still wear jeans and a tshirt everywhere.
merry bay
Vanity is just silly most of the time. As long as it's functional for your use-cases I think it's fair-game
abstract kite
Vanity is fine as long as you have a style you stick with and don't deviate/flare out from that.
like, if you wear suits everywhere, don't go crazy and start wearing wacky suits.
Don Cherry is the exception.
merry bay
pimp outfit and renting lamborghinis is the only way obviously
abstract kite
if dr disrespect can get a lambo so can i
but god what a shitty way to spend my money, lambos are meh
can't wait to see the next generation of GPU's after this that I need to put a down payment on.
dense wasp
1499 is a lot indeed..
The other pricings seemed fair?
vapid crypt
Oh the cuda counts are doubled I guess?
abstract kite
Maybe.
dense wasp
I mean, I need a 3090... for science
coral sand
Decent looking gen
dense wasp
Obviously
abstract kite
At near 2 grand CAD science will wait
dense wasp
Game science will not! 😂
abstract kite
gonna put a down payment and get 2 and crossfire
dw i got this
I'm 100% sure it won't come alive and beat my ass.
fleet canopy
Hm.
abstract kite
Heck
vapid crypt
There's a reason they made these cards beast, Navi must have something good
The $499 card is the 3070
And its as fast, apparently a bit faster than the 2080 ti
abstract kite
Mhm.
dense wasp
Yeah my contact said that people would be happy with the new prices and performance of 3070&3080
At Nvidia that is
abstract kite
3090 is a hardball price but honestly they've shown good pricing with the 70 and 80
I'm surprised they actually went that direction
dense wasp
I dont mind the 3090 price, seeing what we’re getting, but that’s just me
abstract kite
For what I do it's not my card, unless I got a boat load of money handed to me.
vapid crypt
Scott Herkelman the lead for Radeon responded with a 🤔
fleet canopy
Nvidia with release
dense wasp
AMDs gpus been sub par the latest generations imo tho 🤷🏻♂️
abstract kite
We got a lil hype, some memes, and pricing and shit
I mean, the best AMD can do is make it affordable.
fleet canopy
Yeah I read it all silly
vapid crypt
Don't know yet
abstract kite
U silly dum
vapid crypt
I think Radeon is making a come back
fleet canopy
But haven’t seen anything about dates though
vapid crypt
The last time they were super competitive the 290X was going head to head with the Titan for half the price
fleet canopy
Mmk
abstract kite
At least that's what our lord and saviour said after pulling one out of a fucking oven
vapid crypt
If they're capable of a card like that again, I mean I dunno if they'll do half price ever again
But competing with Titan class for less money
That's all they need to do again to get on the map
abstract kite
I mean, we may see it here.
vapid crypt
I'm not certain on RDNA 2
BUT RDNA 3 will be the Zen 2 moment Imo
And I agree, its why I will get the
abstract kite
I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.
vapid crypt
AMD card most likely
Even if the 3070 looks really good on paper, I think AMD will have a similar card for less money
merry bay
Preorders open on Sept 17th
abstract kite
They don't need to top the 3090, they just need to get close enough honestly
If they can blow the 70 and 80 out of the water with an affordable price.
abstract kite
Ryzen only
abstract kite
i love new things from anyone
dense wasp
If they can do a zen2 ofc
vapid crypt
Too warm? 3090 is literally the hottest card since their 480
abstract kite
you mean fucking largest
vapid crypt
They had to make a 12 pin just to support the power
abstract kite
in awe at the size of that lad
dense wasp
3090 can back it up with perf, no AMD card can 😂
abstract kite
Absolute unit
vapid crypt
We don't know that yet though, I think that AMD will come close and be more efficient
vapid crypt
They're recommending 750W technically
abstract kite
looks at my power supply
900 wats
looks like you weren't a vanity purchase lil buddy
vapid crypt
At worst they'll fall between the 3080 and 3090 while being more efficient
That's what I think
abstract kite
Glad I got the 900 seeing the new shitshow
fleet canopy
Imagine having more than 750W
fleet canopy
He did at one point
vapid crypt
3950X and 2080 ti isn't that what he's using?
fleet canopy
Yeah I think
With about 32GB
All I need to do is get the 3070 and now I can have a 3070/3700X build >:)
vapid crypt
Aesthetically pleasing
abstract kite
Will steal your PC
fleet canopy
It’s pleasing in the terms of number, probably also looks pleasing if that’s your kinda thing but eh
dense wasp
Nice
abstract kite
Get biggur case
fleet canopy
Soon™️
Am thinking to get the Meshify C or similar whatever it was
Along with about 3 Arctic fans but maybe I’ll go for Novtua plus 2 more for the cpu cooler fans
abstract kite
I might get an Omen X
vapid crypt
Faster than the 3080 it'll be more expensive to boot
vapid crypt
Don't know, I would hope they have the same energy and bring out multiple cards though
fleet canopy
Looks okay. Not really the one that can actually do colors very well I guess
vapid crypt
Well I'm talking about relation to 3090 right, I think they'll have a card that's close
fleet canopy
As in me, cannot color
vapid crypt
That will be at least $1000 depending
vapid crypt
Then it'll go down the stack
Say $1000 $649 and $400 with some cut down models inbetween
fleet canopy
Otherwise, I can just probably do an easy black/brown/tan case 
@abstract kite
vapid crypt
Imagine they did a card that's close to the 3090 with the same amount of VRAM as it right, for $1000
abstract kite
The Size.
vapid crypt
That cut down card would look really good to the 3080, cause it'll be faster by a good bit while only being $100 more. This is all BS speculation and I'm pulling numbers out my ass but you know
abstract kite
lmao
dapper zodiac
i didnt expect 3080 to be so cheaper
abstract kite
dapper zodiac
like everyone was talking how costly it would be
abstract kite
Dont think anyone did
vapid crypt
I'm sure people expected a $1200 3080 and a $2000 3090
dapper zodiac
yeah
fleet canopy
Nah I figured it’d stay 800$
vapid crypt
Well I did not expect that
abstract kite
Yup
vapid crypt
I expected at most a $800 3080
dapper zodiac
and its cheaper than 800$
dapper zodiac
yeah
its always a bad idea to buy gpus right when the current gen is coming to an end
lol i told him and his regretting pretty hard rn
vapid crypt
They ended production in the past 2 months
fleet canopy
Does he still have a chance to return?
vapid crypt
Shit if its an EVGA card you could maybe get a step up
dapper zodiac
probably no
vapid crypt
I heard that was a thing they did
dapper zodiac
i mean its still fine, all he plays is valorant, csgo, pubg on a 1080p monitor
vapid crypt
If you got a card a few months within the new generation they'll step you up and you pay the difference if there is any
1080p? Shouldn't just got a 1660 Super or something then
dapper zodiac
i have a 5700xt i got last year, ill be selling it in 2022 when these cards will get slightly cheaper
brisk badger
i want new cpu's. NOW 😤
dapper zodiac
1080p? Shouldn't just got a 1660 Super or something then
@vapid crypt well he had money
fleet canopy
Soon™️ @brisk badger
dapper zodiac
and he just wanted the rtx tag
vapid crypt
Eh technically 4k, its DLSS
dapper zodiac
1080p will be like 144p of that time
vapid crypt
They're upsampling
fleet canopy
I think getting the new gen won’t really even make a scratch of a difference on 1080p either way if you plan 144Hz
vapid crypt
Still really good though
dapper zodiac
still, even 4k 60fps is too much for me
vapid crypt
That's the 3090
vapid crypt
1440p is getting more affordable
dapper zodiac
but wouldnt it take some time to reach stores due to corona?
vapid crypt
I'd like smaller monitors though
dapper zodiac
yeah this gen will be more focussed on 1440p mainstream
seriously tho, people who bought 2000 cards this year are seriously regretting it
fleet canopy
Yeah I still would prefer a 1440p on 24” considering it fits and isn’t too big at all
dapper zodiac
ill keep my card till 2022, then sell it and get rdna3, itll be more refined
whoever bought 2080ti regrets the most rn
void perch
vapid crypt
Anyone who thought the 2080 ti wouldn't be beat for sub $1000 was coping with the poor decision
dapper zodiac
what happened to the 3060, i am from the 300-400 gang
vapid crypt
3060 should be announced next month and released by November
dapper zodiac
Anyone who thought the 2080 ti wouldn't be beat for sub $1000 was coping with the poor decision
@vapid crypt my friend who bought 2070S was supposed to get 2080ti but didnt because of supplie issues
he would have been crying rn if he got 2080ti
vapid crypt
Well I'm sure he's hurting knowing the 3070 is ~2080 ti
fleet canopy
Better than paying stupid price for unreasonable performance unless 4K
dapper zodiac
he has 1080p monitor, its still a good card
dapper zodiac
Anyway why did he want 2080 ti with 1080p
@fleet canopy he probably would have gone for a 4k or 1440p monitor
he just loves the rtx tag for some reason
fleet canopy
Lol
abstract kite
So did the news of the new rtx lineup or whatever happen?
vapid crypt
$900 3080s here we come
Yeah it did
3070 3080 and 3090
Happy family of cards that stomp the 2080 ti in both performance and price
Well the 3090 is debatable but whatever
Its probably like 50% faster while being $300 more
abstract kite
$900 for the cheapest card?
vapid crypt
No the 3070 is $499
vapid crypt
And its 2080ti performance, slightly greater
dapper zodiac
its verry good
abstract kite
Price to performance it sounds much better then the 2080 Ti
dapper zodiac
now that 4k gaming is way cheaper, will 1080p die?
vapid crypt
They did pretty good with the pricing this time, they knew Turing was garbage in terms of price/performance
vapid crypt
No its Radeon
dapper zodiac
yes
abstract kite
Cause looking for Navi being not Navidia but AMD isn't confusing.
fleet canopy
Nvidia? More like NoVideo
abstract kite
Banished
fleet canopy
NLink? More like NoLink
abstract kite
Bad
fleet canopy
Yeah I know it’s stupid and dumb
abstract kite
Will bap
fleet canopy
I still like my NoVideo 2070 Stupid anyways c:
abstract kite
Banished
@abstract kite great game
I hope amd gets back into the races
Meh game
Good with mods
Ur good with mods
fleet canopy
They better hope they get lucky with drivers, otherwise it’s a bust for AND for a good while
fleet canopy
Modding me will not fix my ugly
abstract kite
And yeah AMD has one shot
fleet canopy
Their CPUs will be fine however I guess
abstract kite
I wish I could order a 3080 just in case the prices hick up...
fleet canopy
I’m more interested in AMD’s CPUs than their GPUs
vapid crypt
But sure
abstract kite
Might ordah later
vapid crypt
If their CPUs are so great, I don't see why their GPUs won't be of similar quality this time
abstract kite
Big perhaps
fleet canopy
Don’t even think about ordering it the second it releases
vapid crypt
Just wait a few months
abstract kite
No
vapid crypt
Yes
abstract kite
You can't make me.
vapid crypt
Do I need to remind you of the Turing launch
vapid crypt
Cards were catching fire
fleet canopy
You might get a GPU just like 5700XT, drivers might just actually be bad for many and the stick will be low on them
abstract kite
HISSSSS
fleet canopy
Stock*
vapid crypt
It might not happen again, but the point is the cards will be better in 3 months
abstract kite
Cards were catching fire
@vapid crypt because they were a hot deal?
brisk badger
sometimes it's not worth to have the best performing product if it only targets a small amount of customers
abstract kite
It was burning garbage
vapid crypt
What a nightmare of a launch
brisk badger
AMD made great deals in mid tier range AND holds a monopole in GPU's for consoles. It's probably more lucrative for AMD to go this route
dusk igloo
don't you guys have phones
dusk igloo
nintendo ROG gang :3
vapid crypt
You guys don't have phones?
abstract kite
ROG gang
dusk igloo
was that a question or do you like megachonker batteries as well
fleet canopy
So reddit apparently did a slight redesign to their logo
dusk igloo
anyways i can finally get a card that will drive my samsung 49 inch
abstract kite
Smooth
fleet canopy
Apple iPhone 6 gang god please help me
fleet canopy
Lol
vapid crypt
Alcatel Gang
fleet canopy
I can’t really switch because prices are kinda wack for the phones imo, and I still need to research them a bit more
dusk igloo
do you need a better phone, i only switched from my 1+2 cus da battery dead
fleet canopy
Don’t use it much except for discord
dusk igloo
i just realized my screen cost as much as the 3090 at retail...........
dusk igloo
well it is a wide boy
vapid crypt
TVs are offering more for price/performance is what I've been hearing
dusk igloo
they do but there's usually a catch
vapid crypt
You can get a decent sized Oled 4k TV for like $600, may or may not have Freesync options though. And response times won't be as tight I guess?
For great single player experiences it can't be beat for that price I think
dusk igloo
but for non competitive they are properly more then enough
vapid crypt
I will go for IPS and sacrifice Refresh everytime personally
Me with 1080p 75hz panels
Yeah for like 4x the price I paid for my monitors probably
I paid around $100 for each
So its a good deal
Monitor upgrade will come later I suppose
There's a 1440p IPS monitor for sub $300 that's 95Hz, that's probably the one I will pick up
Its been out of stock lately I noticed
In stock end of next month, I hope that's a placeholder date
I should've bought it when it was back in stock
No surprise its a popular option
Cause its 95hz, I wonder if they're using reject panels or something
From LG or whatever
dusk igloo
it is a odd number, so it most likely is
but that only means it cannot be pushed as hard as they wanted it
vapid crypt
Hmm, they have a 165hz ips 1440p option for $329 that's not looking too bad
vapid crypt
Cheaper brand
Pixio doesn't have the same swing as Samsung and LG and I have no idea how different it is, could be lower quality somewhat
I'd have to look into it, but that's good value even if the panel quality isn't as great
IPS, 165hz, HDR it ticks all the boxes
fleet canopy
Linus reviewed lower end HDR, it’s pretty bad apparently
vapid crypt
Okay so back to GPU stuff, I found this in relation to Big Navi https://twitter.com/davideneco25320/status/1300490722483863553
So this is kind of interesting if we look at it like this, the 80CU card will come close to the 3090, the 72 CU card will be the cutdown version of that with the same memory bandwidth, and the second 72CU card is cutdown further with smaller memory bandwidth 
These 3 cards will land solidly between the 3080 and 3090 I think, with the further cut down 72CU card competing with the 3080 directly at $700
So no mid range until later on possibly, that's a bit disappointing ngl
abstract kite
GUYS
GUYS
GUYS
is RTX 3080 actually gonna have 8.7k cuda cores
are u serious????
is this real
merry bay
you give no source and ask if it's real 
abstract kite
ITS FUCKING REAL
HOLY FUCKING SHIT
im hyper ventilating
REAAAAL
confirmed by nvidia
merry bay
it eats 750W minimum though, that's without OC
abstract kite
gr8 time to sell my pc then and get 1000W PSU
merry bay
well not the card, but recommended PSU
abstract kite
2x PCIe 8-pin2x PCIe 8-pin2x PCIe 8-pin
?????
wait what
are u fucking joking
ok yeah i need to resell my entire pc
xD
im here
at 1080p 240hz
so is 3080 gonna be running games on 200 fps
XD
CAN I FINALLY ASK
and get a good answer
gotta build a pc around it
vapid crypt
Just get the 3070
And yeah supposedly they're putting 128 shaders into every SM hence these massive numbers
abstract kite
Personally thing the 3090 is actually a weapon.
this is proof GPU's are getting big as fuck, cant wait for a PC to basically become an entire room.
frozen notch
Well, that's how it was decades ago... 😄
abstract kite
we are returning to tradition. . .
frozen notch
Blast from the past!
abstract kite
We left the stone age giant PCs behind to return to that comforting time with PCs big enough to handle our new desires.
we're all on the same page, just everyone is ahead of one another
i can tell you comforting now
this is where we can see evolution happeneing
and history repeating
once we make it big again
we can rescale it
its kind of
prestige system
once we get hands on user bought content for quantum chips
we will be unstoppable
vapid crypt
Ampere discussion strim https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odvUvAae4hg
He's gonna have some Hot takes on RDNA 2
Oh boy
jade ermine
Got really surprised about the amount of CUDA cores. Mad cards
vapid crypt
They doubled the count per SM, what this actually means for performance I can't say for sure though
vapid crypt
I saw the digital foundry thing, but I don't buy it fully
vapid crypt
Cause the benchmarks weren't consistent
abstract kite
See? It is x2 better then the 2080 you guys didn't believe
vapid crypt
Sometimes they had RTX on, sometimes they didn't
Sure but I was more so looking at its performance relative to the 2080 ti
Which would fall closer to 30%
jade ermine
well they doubled RT and rasterization perf obviously 😄
jokes aside im pretty sure they will be big big leap from turing
vapid crypt
But as I was saying the digital foundry benchmarks I don't buy fully, cause the benchmarks weren't consistent. Sometimes RTX was on and sometimes it wasn't, like they didn't test RTX on BFV
And it had that "80%" increase
I think for standard rasterization its probably something like 70% on average compared to the 2080 (mind you that TU104, a lower tier die)
vapid crypt
Yeah that one was like 80% too
jade ermine
good shit
vapid crypt
I'm not surprised they got a huge increase comparing a lower tier die to a higher one
vapid crypt
Good luck its probably gonna go for $300 at best
jade ermine
i can prob get around 350 euros from it here
vapid crypt
Good stuff
jade ermine
i get barely money for new water block from it 🤣
vapid crypt
Oh yeah you can't get the big cards can you?
jade ermine
forum i sell and buy has like 15 new 2080Ti's there for sale
well around 27CM is the max length in my current configuration so at this point it looks like either Asus or FE card
EVGA and MSI has long PCB
vapid crypt
The 3080?
vapid crypt
Yeah I think its gonna be next to impossible to get one this early
jade ermine
i bet there is literally no stock next month
dusty pumice
Theres so many 2080tis for sale in my country its insane
dusty pumice
Havent seen any that low yet but theres for sure 100+ listed now
jade ermine
@vapid crypt You saw that zotac abomination?
vapid crypt
Um maybe?
vapid crypt
I remember seeing some designs floating around
OH
I haven't seen that one
The fuck is that they put 60mm fans on the backplate
That's big brained
So from the sounds of it 3090 is basically gonna have Radeon VII availability
So it'll be hard to get one for a few months
jade ermine
That one leaker talked about bad availability but he was wrong in every other department
dunno
jade ermine
some twitter idiot iirc
vapid crypt
A broken clock is right twice a day
jade ermine
we see how it is next month
3090 has nv-link
you can have the ultimate RTX minecraft experience now with 20K cuda cores lol
vapid crypt
I don't think that's how it works
jade ermine
for the memes man, for the memes
abstract kite
so the new titan is gonna have
vapid crypt
I'm not sure the cuda core thing is even relevant, cause how does it scale you know?
vapid crypt
To me it seems like marketing, here's beeeeeg numbers
jade ermine
big number uga buga
vapid crypt
Might make sense for programs that utilize Cuda, but for games I doubt it scales like that
Maybe for RTX
Perhaps that's how they improved it, throw Cuda cores at the problem
dense wasp
still funny that it had 2x the cuda cores than all the leaks said
vapid crypt
That's the confusing part
Cause there are marketing slides from Asus that have the cuda counts half of what Nvidia reported
Marketing jargon clashing and I don't know what to believe necessarily
dense wasp
or Nvidia just pulling a prank telling their 3rds the wrong info
Gainward also had wrong
going to be fun watching the 2nd market of the 2080ti now
abstract kite
We are one step closer to making our GPUs look like gtfo powercells
dense wasp
that my friend is very true 😄
abstract kite
inb4 A2 was just us plugging in the 4 8090TI's into an ROG Complex Edition Power Gaming Station™️
We are so close to having PC's basically become separate rooms with how much size needs to be dedicated to the components now.
late sorrel
it was tbh
like, that was my first reaction when I saw them
that they’re just bulky gpu’s
abstract kite
Battle pods exist, now to make it a PC with leg room.
velvet sage
when are the new ones from Nvidia coming our, you said I could get something like a 2070 Super for relatively cheap when that happnes
vapid crypt
Mid September
For 3080 anyway, 3070 is coming out October
And for something that will likely perform on par with the 2070 Super/2080 non super the 3060 is coming out in November
You would probably be able to get a 2070 Super cheaper used than a 3060, but the 3060 will have better RTX and access to all the newest features
So weigh your options I'd say
Also don't count out Radeon
I will always say that
fleet canopy
Mm, thicc
vapid crypt
Something's still shady about the double Cuda core count, I think they're pulling a Bulldozer
abstract kite
El domenine
U der
el plasiho
UNO KAS
I need u to tell me if 2080ti performance is that and that.. and it avg like 100 fps on triple A games.. How much is 80% improvement over raw power in fps
Like 150-180?
Also im jinda druk
Had bottle of jackie
@vapid crypt
vapid crypt
I don't don't think I understood a single word
Or more like that sentence had no structure I don't know what it means 
abstract kite
Look im drubk i feel konely and asaw i wana know ho wmuch fps is 3080 gonna give me based of tje specs weve got frok nvidia
Can u blame me for being drunk and depressed xD but also wantig zo know what ef pie ess
vapid crypt
I don't know for sure, the only thing I can say is wait for reviewers to get these in their hands. There is a video that compared the 3080 to the 2080
But it was a paid spot by Nvidia
So I wouldn't take the performance in that video entirely seriously, it averaged out to the 3080 being like 70% faster than the 2080
merry bay
were those tests with raytracing?
abstract kite
vapid crypt
Some of the tests were with Raytracing, others not
merry bay
because 2080 didn't do that well with raytracing, and it would make a big number to compare those two
vapid crypt
There were games in the list that didn't support RTX where we say upwards of 80%
Well sort of? They compared the 3080 to the 2080ti as well in Control with RTX, but that was with the FPS locked
So it only proved that Ampere RTX was better than Turing
Cause it was a higher resolution
I think it was 4k upsampled with DLSS
So it was doing as well as the 2080ti, maybe even smoother in that test
merry bay
those numbers create a lot of " ? " for me. e. x. borderlands 3 was locked at ~60 and it dipped below that several times
vapid crypt
I won't call it fake
abstract kite
Fake nwws
vapid crypt
But I'll call it garnished, I mean its sponsored by Nvidia
abstract kite
Want my honest op8n89n
vapid crypt
Its the same as their graphs, its all marketing; even if its 80% true
abstract kite
itd 15% max inpr9vment
merry bay
nice choice of numbers
merry bay
at least you can sleep easier knowing the price
vapid crypt
Oh yeah the Tax
abstract kite
Lel
tike to throw up brb
ew
See the thinz is.
U shouod never drink alone btw
Same with gpu
merry bay
i'm on the edge of selling my 1080ti and sitting on my old gpu until 3000series arrive here
abstract kite
ALSO is 650W gonna be enougj
vapid crypt
I don't drink, but thanks for the advice
vapid crypt
I think its fair to say the 3080 is twice as fast as the 1080 ti
vapid crypt
Well just cause it has the potential to draw 400W doesn't mean it will
But it can, if you want it to
vapid crypt
Uh I mean there will be 2 8 pin models
abstract kite
Do i need to buy those shitty adapter cables
vapid crypt
So yeah 650W as long as its a quality unit will be fine
abstract kite
I got quality one yeh
vapid crypt
That's only if you get a 12 pin model
abstract kite
80+ gokd
merry bay
they include adapters. Nvidia made sure to mention it everywhere
vapid crypt
Which personally if I were to get the 3090, I wouldn't but if hypothetically I did I would want the 12 pin
abstract kite
hmm
vapid crypt
Since its just one connection
abstract kite
so i gt all cables with my 3080
vapid crypt
Its solid and has plenty of power there
abstract kite
Mmm cant wsit
so 8can play gtfo on 240 fps
eoohoo
i
jk probs at 180
due to bottlenock
Plus i dont rlx minf 180 fps.. as long as ot does not deep below 150 its fine
vapid crypt
Bottlenock?
vapid crypt
Is that when you knock the bottle of jack over
merry bay
I wonder how hard of a hit it will be to be on PCI-E 3.0
merry bay
most likely not
vapid crypt
No, but that probably doesn't matter
abstract kite
Nown8m gonna cry
;(
i want gen 4
im gonna open ip bottle of new jack
should i
or sleep
merry bay
if you get enough fps, does it matter?
abstract kite
or get a 3090
vapid crypt
It might be a bottleneck in SOME games, but it wouldn't be a very big one
abstract kite
okay ill be honest
150 fps is fine by me
liteeally
Max graphicx 1080p
but ideal i want 200
on truple a games
suh as metro exodus
merry bay
i just want to never dip below 90 and for slower games to be able to switch to 4K
vapid crypt
8k using DLSS
vapid crypt
Well not scammed, but you know it looks 8k that's pretty good right
merry bay
as if anyone cares to buy an 8K display these days
abstract kite
I actually am fps
fan
i want to get 360hz fisplay
Its so smooth
never tried ut tho lol
merry bay
doubt you want it enough to cough up 500+
abstract kite
U thnk its gonna feel wierd
The thung js
we will see quantu chips
running 1000 fps+
cause AI is gonna control it all
in real time
Irs quite scary
vapid crypt
I don't want AI controlling my computer in any way
merry bay
quantum computers are bad at x86 stuff. so it won't be coming anytime soon
abstract kite
mmm true
Also
Im basixally me myself nerdy when drunk bur shameless
xD
and no anxiety
i love it
My savant syndrom turns off
👍
Wait it does not but it basically gives me full control of what i want in mind
Whoops pc only
Ah yes rtx 3090
mmm
good gpu
LOLL
fierce frost
wont the 3000 series cooler design just blow hot air up to the CPU and kinda kill the performance of your air cooler if you have one
abstract kite
Dunno if it's okay to ask this here but anyone have like a "settings guide" for performance? I have a 970 and been playing at 1080p, and it's been good till my monitor died, gotta buy one and got a 32" 1440p display, so know game runs like garbage.
merry bay
Depends on the CPU cooler. The huge ones actually don't get too warm(the cooler itself) so hard to say how much that would affect things. I'd expect no more than a 5 degree difference at worst.
Going to need to see testing ofc.
fierce frost
yea thats fair
vapid crypt
I doubt it would effect performance anyhow even if average temps go up a bit on the CPU
vapid crypt
So something that occurred to me, based on the Digital Foundry video; all of the benchmarks were ran at 4k. Which is fair enough considering the kind of card we're dealing with, but since it was being compared to the 2080; which I would barely consider being an Entry point to 4k for the most part. I mean its basically a mid range card with its memory bandwidth; the 80% increase it has in some of them isn't really that impressive in hindsight
I understand the point though, this is a legit way to do it in order to saturate the cards completely
You get the most accurate difference there.
I'm kind of curious what the difference would be when dealing with lower resolutions, obviously its not gonna be the same 70 - 80% uplift at 1440p and so on.
That's why I love Hardwareunboxed, they benchmark 30+ games at multiple resolutions and sometimes multiple presets
Cover all the bases to get an average increase
Oh I'm also curious what the difference would be when comparing the 2080ti to the 3080 in the same conditions
Since that's actually more what I would consider to be a 4k capable card
dense wasp
it is really interesting indeed
brisk badger
Nothing against hardware unboxed but basically all benchmarks that you play games and then compare is not valid. There is just too many variables and states that will fake the result and you as a tester then have to run it multiple times and then make the numbers based on the average. Sure maybe it's just 1-5 FPS but it still no proper measurement but more like a rudimentary benchmark. ( I am aware that some games include a benchmark. These ones are fine for benchmarking).
I do agree however with Demonino and looking back at how much time Nvidia spent on the 30 series; The increase in performance is not that big unless you look at the VRAM performance. So it really matters when speaking about the resolution. Also what to keep in mind (following numbers are just guessed not real values):
Let's say the 2080 consumes 250Watt to produce 300 Frames
the 3080 consumes 500W and produces 500 Frames. That doesn't make the 3080 much better. Watt per Performance is quite important too in terms of hardware progression.
restive garnet
brisk badger
Or it's a typo/troll
abstract kite
@brisk badger
U There
im kinda sober now dont ask... umm
650W will it be enough
be honest
3080 + 9900k + 32 gb ddr4
brisk badger
partially, I am looking for the original lenovo listing
idk but from hearing it seems like you need more watt because of the gpu
abstract kite
😭
brisk badger
https://psref.lenovo.com/Fullscreen/Lenovo_Legion_T7_34IMZ5
Can't find said model anymore
abstract kite
wait whats that
brisk badger
refering to Ulfsaar post if the 3070 TI is going to happen or not
abstract kite
ah
vapid crypt
I can see them releasing a 3070 Ti, enable a couple SMs and double Vram
They can do the same thing for a 3080 Ti
Though the point is with not having so many segmentations was there aren't 3+ variants of the same named card like what they did with the 1660
dense wasp
I don't know about the TI's,
they'd probably be a ways off
my guy at Nvidia told me I'd be very happy for a long time with my 3090 if I bought one
vapid crypt
Well there won't be a 3090 Ti if there's ever anything above it it would be something that's twice the price and with double the Vram
vapid crypt
Sure what's an extra $500 at that price point right
dense wasp
what's an extra couple of thousands if I where to guess 😄
but I'll guess we'll find out
brisk badger
At one point we learn how to solder more vram onto gpu's (its possible)
dense wasp
I'll be more than happy with my 3090 thou..
vapid crypt
Totally, replace all the 1gb chips on the 3080 with 2gb chips
vapid crypt
Its not that big
brisk badger
Ludvig also needs to play what gtfo mininmal specs are half of the time, no? 😁
vapid crypt
The 3090 is the chunky boi
abstract kite
yeh man ludvig where is that 240 fps gaming experience in gtfo
ray tracing
wink wink
vapid crypt
Unity needs to get DX 12 Ultimate support, then we can see about Ray traced GTFO
That's a good 2 or 3 years down the line though I would imagine
abstract kite
oof
btw
anyone knows the lenghts of custom AOE gpus
my case can only handle 290mm
vapid crypt
The FE model is 285mm so I would guess most dual fan GPUs would be close to that length probably
vapid crypt
What do you mean it looks shit?
vapid crypt
I've seen some shit looking 3 fan models
vapid crypt
abstract kite
yikes
vapid crypt
It would be okay if it wasn't for that random RGB fan in the middle
brisk badger
@abstract kite with a dremel its not difficult. Assuming u dont need them anymore
But i dont think every household has one
abstract kite
ya
i dont think i got that shit u are saying but i can use regular saw or smth @brisk badger
will that give me like extra space to fit like 350 mm card
this is probs the card ill get
its so fucking thicc dude
xD
I HOpe its gonna be perfect size
fleet canopy
It’s the size of “haha fuck your puny case”
Looks like a regular size though. I could be wrong, but it doesn’t seem too much bigger than a regular 2000 series
Just 3090 seems to be insanely massive
abstract kite
yeah i know gigabyte makes somewhat fairly mid range lenghty cards
my current one is 285mm
aorus one is 290mm
same size as my case
can handle
so hopefully
that the cases just be thicker than lenghty
cause lets be honest girth is important
😏
in pc building
that is
anyways
Biggur
abstract kite
smh my head
smh damn girls
my ex ditched me cause i had smaller gpi
:/
like my current one is slim but lenghty
fleet canopy
Only reason I’m gay. Girls are weird. And does not exist
abstract kite
relatable
Girls are real they're just like CPUs
They get angry if they don't have a sizeable GPU to offload problems onto
^^
fleet canopy
GPU with transparent background
Fucking hate the ones where they’re “transparent” but in reality have this fucking gayass background that would suggest its transparent but it isn’t
abstract kite
true
this is the one i think
👀
👀
i like pettite
gpus
xD
smol and thicc
I STILL dont know if i need new psu even if my current one 80+ Gold
fleet canopy
What’s the psu watt?
vapid crypt
BIG NAVI WHEN!?
fleet canopy
Same. 650W is cool 😎
abstract kite
I mean asus confirmed thieir gpu was pulling 400W max
which is 50W more than 2080ti
But now im unsure if that was 3080 or 3090
fleet canopy
I’m getting a 2000W for 3080
abstract kite
yes a great idea
Ok lets just say
i get 3080
anddd
my pc dies
i need new psu
EL DEMO
@vapid crypt im gonna get extra cables in gpu
box
vapid crypt
Damn it I'm not a power expert
fleet canopy
Lmao
fleet canopy
Poor demonio
abstract kite
I jzst wan know if i have to buy extra cables for the 8 PIN
cause i got only one that is enough for my 1070
fleet canopy
They give cables
vapid crypt
What kind of PSU do you have?
fleet canopy
650
vapid crypt
Is it modular?
fleet canopy
Not likely to be able to support 3080 system
You could get a 3070 instead if it eats up less power
vapid crypt
I dunno if that's the case, if its good quality and at least 80+ Gold it could handle it. If its non modular and doesn't have 2 8 pins though
fleet canopy
It’s a 2080 ti but cheaper anyways
vapid crypt
Then I guess not
brisk badger
it's a 2080ti but cheaper but consuming more watts
fleet canopy
Hm.
brisk badger
oh, nice. I thought the 3080 already has this 12pin plug
vapid crypt
Yeah so the 12 pin AFAIK is for the 3080 and 3090
And even then AIBs can choose not to use it
In place of 8x2 or 8x3
abstract kite
I just wanna know if my 80+ gold fully modular
brisk badger
What is interesting is the fact that this 12pin doesn't seem to be a "norm". I don't know if there is any ISO etc. specification for it
abstract kite
650W can handle the gpu
vapid crypt
So its fully modular
abstract kite
YES
vapid crypt
Where are your cables?
vapid crypt
Okay check for the cables in the box
vapid crypt
In my case, 2 8pin connectors are on the same cable
abstract kite
wait im confused
well yeah same here
u connect 1 8pin in the psi
and one in gpu
if thats what u meant
vapid crypt
No
There are 2 8 pin connectors chained to a single cable, at least that's the case with my power supply
Which is also fully modular
abstract kite
Oh yeah i got that
Too
its like a
flower bucket
Bouket
Bukkakeee
ANYWAYS
Lemm take pic
brisk badger
I am not sure if we are rdy for your flower bukkakeee
vapid crypt
Yeah that's the second one I guess
vapid crypt
Sure
vapid crypt
The 750W recommendation is a high ball, same with the 850w when using the 12-pin adapter
vapid crypt
They always high ball the power requirement at the high end I would say
brisk badger
VRAM consumes quite some watt
I guess they had to make these numbers in case you fill 20gb or so
vapid crypt
Well yeah I wouldn't trust a 650W on the 3090 tbh
brisk badger
especially HBM(2) memory is hungry for watt
abstract kite
nah fam 3090 is gonna probs take 750W
abstract kite
Im just dumb
ok so
i just put those two
pins
in gpu and
mount it
and boom
vapid crypt
The reason you might think that is cause of Vega, but actually if it used GDDR it would be consuming even more power
vapid crypt
Not really, at least not entirely accurate
brisk badger
Demonio; I had the Fury X (HBM) this was also requiring a lot of power
I had it wrong, you are probbaly right
vapid crypt
Oh no doubt the Fury is not an efficient card
vapid crypt
But that doesn't mean its cause of the memory, they had to use HBM or else the power use would be too high
Hmm interesting
brisk badger
yea memory served me wrong. HBM uses a stack of "layers" compared to a single layer and somehow I mixed this with requiring more volt
in the server landscape HBM is used often, espcially because of power consumption...
merry bay
@abstract kite Are you sure those are separate cables(from the PSU) and not the same cable split into 2x 8pins?
abstract kite
its same cable
merry bay
do not use that with 3000 series
brisk badger
96v on PCie3 as max value? 😳
abstract kite
first time seeing wooza
brisk badger
I am not sure but reading voltages digitally is not often accurate
brisk badger
Maybe I interpret this tool wrong but for me it looks like your pc should be toasted already
abstract kite
which tool