#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk | GTFO | Page 138

fiery panther Aug 20, 2020, 7:34 PM

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too addicted to this bass

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Lol

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its in #gtfo-media

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When I start up siege Cpu usages rises badly

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Highest being over 66%

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Idk

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Bout to test rn

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Still fucked

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I know how to format

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though i don't want to do that

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could fuck up my entire FL Studio

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Got more hours in that than in siege

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Steam still uses a shitlaod

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shitload*

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Just closed it with siege open

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Seems to have worked lol

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It worked

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Just close steam lmfao

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Siege just closed on me

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Lol

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Ima go commit cry rn

fleet canopy Aug 20, 2020, 7:55 PM

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:(

fiery panther Aug 20, 2020, 7:59 PM

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Might do that tomorrow

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Ping me again in like 12 hours so I am not too stupid to forget lol

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I can't remember things I just said a few seconds ago

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:D

narrow moon Aug 20, 2020, 8:35 PM

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@fiery panther So compatability mode fixed it?

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And yes, it is a band-aid. But if it did fix it, it lets us know its more likely a windows 10 issue.

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Also do not format your drive if its an SSD.

fiery panther Aug 20, 2020, 8:36 PM

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Well, when I open a game it's the same problem again

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It is an SSD

narrow moon Aug 20, 2020, 8:36 PM

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Yeah do not format an SSD.

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When you open a game?

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Is it any game? Are they all on the same drive?

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Which games does it do it on? There must be a common factor relating to windows 10. Have you downloaded any update to windows or any drivers lately?

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But this isn't a drive issue.

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It's a windows 10 related issue, we know that. The question is what relation is causing the problem.

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Re-formatting an SSD is just a bad idea. For a start SSDs do not suffer from defragmentation and in theory they do not suffer from bad sectors as they are self-relient on tracking down bad sectors.

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All you are doing is using up read and write cycles and "wearing" out your SSD.

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@fiery panther Out of curiosity, is your i-GPU enabled or disabled in any capacity? I know this has caused problems for Nvidia systems using intel chips basically putting all the workload on your CPU.

fiery panther Aug 20, 2020, 8:51 PM

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It's on Siege as far as I've tested

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Though Idk anything about that i-GPU stuff

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Though I've got an AMD build

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Well, my ssd is intel, but it's doing it's job fine

fleet canopy Aug 20, 2020, 8:53 PM

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iGPU is an integrated GPU on your CPU

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It's only really good for people not wanting/needing a dedicated GPU

narrow moon Aug 20, 2020, 8:53 PM

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Your CPU was a G series was it not?

fleet canopy Aug 20, 2020, 8:54 PM

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x200 and x400 is G

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Except for the first gen I think

narrow moon Aug 20, 2020, 8:54 PM

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@fiery panther You're only getting the problem on Siege?

fiery panther Aug 20, 2020, 8:55 PM

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Well, only having extremely low fps on siege

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ryzen 3 3200G is my cpu

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Though my integrated graphics don't exist in my device manager

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So doubt it's on

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And Payday 2

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but that's a broken game so I wouldn't be surprised to find out it's just the game

fleet canopy Aug 20, 2020, 8:57 PM

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It exists

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You just didn't plug in a display cord to mobo yet

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Wouldn't recommend it anyways lol

fiery panther Aug 20, 2020, 8:58 PM

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mobo?

narrow moon Aug 20, 2020, 9:02 PM

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mobo=motherboard.

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But i-GPUs work in tandem with dedicated GPUs these days.

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So it shouldn't matter I don't think.

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Have you run any benchmarks or checked the temperatures of your CPU and GPU?

fiery panther Aug 20, 2020, 9:20 PM

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Ah

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Temps are alright

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Haven't seen it further than 63 degrees celsius

vapid crypt Aug 20, 2020, 9:34 PM

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How much RAM do you have

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The integrated graphics allocates Vram using the System ram, by default it allocates 512mb; you can allocate more via the Bios

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Up to 2gb, which is enough for the level of graphics performance you get

fiery panther Aug 20, 2020, 10:28 PM

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I have 16gb ram

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2 sticks of 8gb 3200mhz

vapid crypt Aug 20, 2020, 10:31 PM

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Okay, yeah if you haven't already allocated 2gb of Vram to the graphics; do so via the Bios

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Dunno if you know about XMP, but that's important to enable as well

lilac geyser Aug 21, 2020, 12:40 AM

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is there something you have to set in your bios settings? like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxal0SxI10w

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and then in catalyst control center? something to set the gpu to be used on certain programs like games

fresh forge Aug 21, 2020, 2:50 AM

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hello, new here and to computers

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is there anyway to increase ram without getting new parts?

void perch Aug 21, 2020, 2:55 AM

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If you can't add more ram, then you need to get your computer to stop using as much ram. Every application uses ram - discord running, chrome/internet explorer/firefox running in the background, your antivirus software, spotify, etc. So basically close every application you don't need running.

you can use task manager to see what is running and using the most memory, you can also use that to monitor GTFO and see if it is actually maxing out your RAM or Video RAM.

mossy pelican Aug 21, 2020, 4:22 AM

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In your BIOS you can also set your RAM speed

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Or go to www.downloadmoreram.org

abstract kite Aug 21, 2020, 4:33 AM

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Bad boy, bad.

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 5:31 AM

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I got myself 32GB from that site

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Works pretty cool, says I got a “malware”

dense wasp Aug 21, 2020, 9:04 AM

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nice

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400% speed increase

jade ermine Aug 21, 2020, 9:08 AM

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unlimited powah

merry bay Aug 21, 2020, 9:12 AM

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https://imgur.com/Nhux2qU

brisk badger Aug 21, 2020, 9:15 AM

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it's impressive. especially the ability for deflickering Would be cool if he mentioned what he did use. Assuming he did not create his own AI upscaling program

eternal cairn Aug 21, 2020, 9:16 AM

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Google Chrome has a new rival for RAM usage on my PC: After Effects.

brisk badger Aug 21, 2020, 9:17 AM

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I recommend not to use Chrome 🙃

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 9:17 AM

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Gotta get 64GB now to handle both

eternal cairn Aug 21, 2020, 9:17 AM

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😤

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~~Well, time to rob Best Buy.~~

fiery panther Aug 21, 2020, 9:18 AM

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ggwp

eternal cairn Aug 21, 2020, 9:18 AM

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Imagine being able to 3D print your own RAM sticks.

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 9:19 AM

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Imagine having 16GB of ram

eternal cairn Aug 21, 2020, 9:19 AM

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In which year?

jade ermine Aug 21, 2020, 9:19 AM

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gay is visionary and invests in ddr4 capacity

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 9:20 AM

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This post was made by the 32GB gang

eternal cairn Aug 21, 2020, 9:20 AM

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This post was made by the 48GB gang.

jade ermine Aug 21, 2020, 9:21 AM

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I can't flex with capacity, i just flex with speed

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wich is as we all know very improtant aspect when it comes to ram XD

eternal cairn Aug 21, 2020, 9:21 AM

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Indeed.

brisk badger Aug 21, 2020, 9:21 AM

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Browses the web with his 8GB ram linux machine, giggles

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 9:22 AM

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Any amount above 32GB is overkill

jade ermine Aug 21, 2020, 9:22 AM

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not going to lie, filling up those all ram slots would be great

eternal cairn Aug 21, 2020, 9:22 AM

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You can never have too much RAM.

brisk badger Aug 21, 2020, 9:22 AM

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for you maybe. There is plenty of use cases that justify 32gb+

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 9:22 AM

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I mean, I’ll probably fill up the slots maybe

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There’s two available

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Probably will just buy another 2x16

jade ermine Aug 21, 2020, 9:23 AM

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196 euros for another identical 2x8gb kit
yea im good bro

mossy pelican Aug 21, 2020, 9:24 AM

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get the fake slot fillers

jade ermine Aug 21, 2020, 9:24 AM

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those are disgusting

mossy pelican Aug 21, 2020, 9:24 AM

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makes it look clean

jade ermine Aug 21, 2020, 9:24 AM

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i dont want stuff that does nothing

mossy pelican Aug 21, 2020, 9:24 AM

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fair

brisk badger Aug 21, 2020, 9:25 AM

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fake ram sticks are actualy nice to troubleshoot hardware issues

jade ermine Aug 21, 2020, 9:25 AM

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im over that aesthetic over function phase

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 9:26 AM

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If anything, if I really needed to fill those slots, I’d probably just get 2x8 of the very same brand and speed

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But I’d feel a little disgusted by knowing I have 48

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Like 48 is just no lmao

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It feels more normal having it be 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128 and so on

jade ermine Aug 21, 2020, 9:28 AM

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mmh

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probably sticking with 16gb until ddr5

brisk badger Aug 21, 2020, 9:29 AM

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just download the missing 16gb ram

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unlucky, unless you have a job that requires a shitton of ram for certain tasks; It's more than okay to have 16gb

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 9:30 AM

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16GB is a pretty good number unless there’s possibly some modding you do in games that do need more RAM I guess ish

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Which I believe one would be Minecraft but if I’m wrong then idk what now lmao

brisk badger Aug 21, 2020, 9:30 AM

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there is not a single game out there that will consume that much ram

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 9:31 AM

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But what if it was with modding it

brisk badger Aug 21, 2020, 9:31 AM

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can tell from experience with my skyrim and 350mods

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still no

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 9:31 AM

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Smh that’s a very small number

brisk badger Aug 21, 2020, 9:31 AM

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there is something called garbage collection in applications

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the amount of mods does say nothing

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349 mods can use 10mb ram and one mod 10gb

fiery panther Aug 21, 2020, 9:32 AM

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payday 2

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 9:32 AM

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Payday 2, hm

fiery panther Aug 21, 2020, 9:32 AM

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broken ass game

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modded it to hell several times

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 9:32 AM

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I’ve seen a dude with way too many mods that helps you to run it more better on a craptop

fiery panther Aug 21, 2020, 9:33 AM

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gg

brisk badger Aug 21, 2020, 9:33 AM

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yea maybe he just messed up his modding journey .It's not easy if you isntall a crapton of mods

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 9:33 AM

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Nah he had a pretty shitty laptop so the mods were literally just made to help you run payday 2 better

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I assume it made Payday 2 look pure shit

fiery panther Aug 21, 2020, 9:34 AM

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Payday2 is broken

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It's badly optimised

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 9:34 AM

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Yeah that’s also true

fiery panther Aug 21, 2020, 9:34 AM

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Very bad AI

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 9:34 AM

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10-15FPS payday 2 gaming baby

fiery panther Aug 21, 2020, 9:34 AM

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retarded ass spawns

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 9:34 AM

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And this was on like

fiery panther Aug 21, 2020, 9:34 AM

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But god do I love it

brisk badger Aug 21, 2020, 9:34 AM

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payday 2 is a 32bit appllication so your statement is wrong.

fiery panther Aug 21, 2020, 9:34 AM

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lmdao

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lmfao

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 9:34 AM

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2013-2015

fiery panther Aug 21, 2020, 9:35 AM

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Payday 2 is broken as fuck though

brisk badger Aug 21, 2020, 9:35 AM

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unless he had maybe like 2GB and upgraded to 64GB lol

jade ermine Aug 21, 2020, 9:35 AM

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@brisk badger that shitty city building game will make your 16gb bottleneck, cant think any other game

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 9:35 AM

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Payday 2 is one of the most broken ass game

fiery panther Aug 21, 2020, 9:35 AM

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It is

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A racing engine for a shooting game

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Though i still love the game

merry bay Aug 21, 2020, 9:35 AM

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It's not uncommon for very recent games to eat 5GB+ at a time. Combine that with a browser and some other bloat, you approach 70-90% RAM utilization with 16GB and suddenly tabs or small programs end up in the pagefile. Slowing down future access.
It's just a slight inconvenience but that's in part why I wanted more.

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fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 9:35 AM

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Car engine for shooty? No good

fiery panther Aug 21, 2020, 9:36 AM

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No

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The engine the game used is the diesel engine

brisk badger Aug 21, 2020, 9:36 AM

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yea unlucky but if you have to purchase somethbing because of developers did a crap job; dont buy it

jade ermine Aug 21, 2020, 9:36 AM

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yeye

fiery panther Aug 21, 2020, 9:36 AM

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I love the game still

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It's broken as fuck, but I still think it's amazing

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the bugs sometimes make it even more fun

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to me

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 9:37 AM

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So payday 2 ran on 10 FPS on my old integrated cpu which must have been one of those 3-5th gen, payday 2 devs were just pure shit and I shouldn’t have had it? Hm

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I feel like a guy with a shitty PC and was console sided would say exactly this

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It’d be pretty nice if they would have redone the game on a better and more understandable engine instead of a 2000s car game engine

brisk badger Aug 21, 2020, 9:41 AM

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payday 2 is also a 32bit application

fiery panther Aug 21, 2020, 9:41 AM

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I a a 32 bit application

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am

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 9:42 AM

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You’re a 32 bit

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Cannot allow more than 4GB of ram

brisk badger Aug 21, 2020, 9:42 AM

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*2GB

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 9:42 AM

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Ah, yes

brisk badger Aug 21, 2020, 9:42 AM

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4GB is with an extra function

worldly perch Aug 21, 2020, 9:42 AM

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Hey what up my n*ggas

brisk badger Aug 21, 2020, 9:43 AM

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"Large Address Aware" function makes a 32bit capable of using 4GB. Not all 32bit apps have this. Some jsut don't need it

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 9:43 AM

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I recently looked up on the difference with 32 bit and 64 bit, was surprised by how big of a difference it was for RAM and didn’t think that it’d ever be a huge amount

fiery panther Aug 21, 2020, 9:44 AM

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He even censored it

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what a polite man

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Helo

brisk badger Aug 21, 2020, 9:45 AM

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it was good that cpu's that support 64bit came out early. Even before the OS's adapted and a majority still had 32bit OS

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amd 'invented' 64bit

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 9:46 AM

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Kinda like a future proof I guess, heh

fringe garden Aug 21, 2020, 9:46 AM

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Where is my 128bit

brisk badger Aug 21, 2020, 9:47 AM

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intel's version was way too complicated and would have not allowed 32bit apps to run natively. Intel's technology is called IA-64. Some servers that are based on the Itanium family still use it. It is faster than amd's 64bit but it will fade away in the next years probably

fiery panther Aug 21, 2020, 9:47 AM

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AMD best girl

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 9:48 AM

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Yeah I’ve heard of that

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Intel is just not really that much fun in technology except for super high speeds and less cores

brisk badger Aug 21, 2020, 9:50 AM

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I don't know this intel 64bit technology much but it surely also had advantages. But rendering all previous application obsolete was a no go.
I would love to collect those Itanium CPU's. Now that they may dissapear they surely get some collectors value

dense wasp Aug 21, 2020, 10:22 AM

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wonder if the new $1399 for the 3090 rumors will stay..!

fiery panther Aug 21, 2020, 10:23 AM

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Oh damn

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My pc cost half that

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 10:23 AM

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@dense wasp it’s pretty uncertain

fiery panther Aug 21, 2020, 10:23 AM

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Though I'll upgrade my cpu first

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 10:23 AM

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It’s been said to either be 1400$ or 2000$

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I still think the 3090 is a dual GPU card

jade ermine Aug 21, 2020, 11:00 AM

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Ofc it is, PCB is rumored to be really short so they can just glue 2 3080's together!!!1

dense wasp Aug 21, 2020, 11:22 AM

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@fleet canopy fairly sure it ain’t, if my contact wasn’t holding out on me

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Most likely more then two slots tho

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 11:23 AM

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I mean, I could understand the possibility of it being a single die GPU, but every GPU release with xx90 was always a dual GPU

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So how could it not be

jade ermine Aug 21, 2020, 11:28 AM

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@dense wasp Time to implement raytracing in to your game.
"Just turn it on" "It just works!"
Jensen says its easy so you have no excuses 😄

dense wasp Aug 21, 2020, 11:42 AM

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haha

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I here ya about the dual thou Gay,
I'm just not very sure it'll be a pure dual GPU card, I don't really see the appliance

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 11:47 AM

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Good for workstation use

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I believe there’s still a lot of workstation use for GPU heavy stuff when it comes to dual GPUs or SLI

brisk badger Aug 21, 2020, 11:59 AM

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most likely not because the drivers for the 3090 will likely be the same as the one for 2080 etc. which are consumer boards

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real benefit of multiple gpu's are maybe AI learning, scientific researches etc. Those people will probably not buy a card that is meant for gaming (support etc.)

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 12:02 PM

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Or something like a Quadro

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If that’s something they’re willing to invest into

brisk badger Aug 21, 2020, 12:03 PM

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yes that is probably what they will purchase. The drivers are different for those cards and so is probably the support

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not saying that this 3090 will not be a dual gpu card but I would not think this happening since it probably will sell not greatly and also not push developers to optimize games for dual GPU's

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high end gpu's are getting more and more expensive. I don't like this trend

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 12:13 PM

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Seeing how it is, it could just be a rename for Titan replacement as I’ve seen leaks of it with quite a bit of VRAM

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RTX Titan was basically a 2080 Ti with twice more VRAM

jade ermine Aug 21, 2020, 12:18 PM

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11 days GWgoaShuu

fiery panther Aug 21, 2020, 1:57 PM

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Nope

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:(

brisk badger Aug 21, 2020, 2:10 PM

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I did and its great. I would recommd to anyone that needs something like this. But i personally cant use it. My setup is connected to windows domains (not workgroup) which makes it a bit of a hassle for me

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Their website is ugly tho! 😂

restive garnet Aug 21, 2020, 2:27 PM

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personally, im assuming that the whole 3090 thing is basically just gunna be a renamed titan, to try and convince people like me who go for best in class performance to buy a titan

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normally i just skip a few generations and then pick up an xx80ti card

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 2:28 PM

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Yeah it’s basically a renamed Titan

restive garnet Aug 21, 2020, 2:28 PM

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but if there was a 90 series it would bug me not having top of the line

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 2:28 PM

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The leaked specs of it is literally something you’d expect of a Tran

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Titan*

restive garnet Aug 21, 2020, 2:28 PM

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yeah, pretty much

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or potentially its just a marketing gimmick

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 2:29 PM

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It’d be pretty weird though, because every (x)x90 was a dual GPU

restive garnet Aug 21, 2020, 2:29 PM

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a way to say "hey AMD, our halo enthusiast card is better than yours by miles"

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try telling that to intel

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 2:30 PM

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Lol

restive garnet Aug 21, 2020, 2:30 PM

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how many times have they changed their nomenclature

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 2:30 PM

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“We have superior gaming performance that will absolutely flop in the next few years because we aren’t taking in the fact multithreaded is going to be a big thing soon.”

restive garnet Aug 21, 2020, 2:30 PM

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iirc, they have had like 4 different codes for undervolted cpus across their core series CPUs

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my old laptop from like 10 years ago had a U series i3

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my old ladies work machine has a T series i7

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 2:31 PM

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Although I think Intel will be fine in multithread, but they’ll be behind AMD by some amount if it we’re to happen

restive garnet Aug 21, 2020, 2:32 PM

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i dont know

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majority of the market share are still running quad cores

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so itll probably take at least a few years for market share to shift, and then a few more years for games to utilize higher core counts

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 2:33 PM

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Yeah but when that becomes more available, what’s the quad core going to be good for except light gaming I guess

restive garnet Aug 21, 2020, 2:34 PM

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hard to say

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its the same conversation being had around RTX

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the same conversation that was had around physx

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 2:35 PM

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And quad cores, despite being still good are possibly going to lose its place as a good amount soon considering going from 4 cores to a higher amount is nicer considering I don’t have to worry about it tanking in performance when the uptime is over 1 day anymore

restive garnet Aug 21, 2020, 2:35 PM

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you can lead a horse to water, but you cant make it drink

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 2:35 PM

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I guess so

restive garnet Aug 21, 2020, 2:35 PM

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you can make new technology available, but whether developers utilize it is another question

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physx being a great example

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at the time, it was hailed as the future of gaming

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now, its basically dead

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 2:36 PM

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Even the fact that RTX 3000 might not even be worth considering when AMD’s got something going on

restive garnet Aug 21, 2020, 2:36 PM

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its always worth considering imo

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whether its worth actually getting is another question

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always comes back to the same principle, vote with your wallet

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 2:37 PM

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Maybe. If you’re not some NVIDIA hard sided person

restive garnet Aug 21, 2020, 2:38 PM

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i am an nvidia sided person lmao

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 2:38 PM

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L o l

restive garnet Aug 21, 2020, 2:38 PM

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but competition from AMD is always good for me

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make my cards cheaper and better

dusty pumice Aug 21, 2020, 2:39 PM

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Competition is good for anyone

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 2:39 PM

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I could also say I prefer Nvidia fairly more because they haven’t fucked me up yet and I’ve had good experience with it, as well as AMD’s had driver issues

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But if it were CPUs, that’s just a diffferent story

restive garnet Aug 21, 2020, 2:39 PM

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gets me that epic games are suing apple for monopolistic practices

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pot calling the kettle black, wouldnt you say?

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 2:40 PM

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Sounds like epic is being a baby about a 30% thing when they make a shitload of money from kids stealing mommy’s credit cards

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But if they’re trying to lower that 30% cut to Apple so they have to force themselves to lower it to a smaller amount, then that’s actually quite nice for about the entirety of developers on making mobile stuff on Apple

restive garnet Aug 21, 2020, 2:42 PM

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more sounds like they were trying to have their cake and eat it too

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get apple to host the game, and get most of apples cut at the same time

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but they got caught

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 2:43 PM

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For now, Epic is in the bad side here for making a really shitty “1984” video of epic vs Apple

restive garnet Aug 21, 2020, 2:43 PM

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it just gets me that they broke apples terms of service, and are now crying about it

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while trying to take the moral high ground

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 2:44 PM

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Such a god awful, disgusting video I hope future generations never lay eyes on

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Not to say, Apple’s also a shit company just like Epic anyways

restive garnet Aug 21, 2020, 2:45 PM

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part of their current lawsuit is to prevent apple from deleting their developer accounts, because it will heavily impact them

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 2:45 PM

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They both have just nothing good at all in store for themselves

restive garnet Aug 21, 2020, 2:46 PM

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almost like they should have thought of that before double dipping and suing apple

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personally, i hope they both burn

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 2:46 PM

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Well yes

restive garnet Aug 21, 2020, 2:46 PM

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but i really wouldnt mind epic being taken down a peg or two

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call it twelve even

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more the merrier

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the sheer amount of hypocrisy at epic is astounding

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 2:47 PM

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But then again I like Apple’s phone by a certain amount. I use the 6 and it’s a nice design I like. Which kinda just would be nicer for me if they had a same design but better specs anyways

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Just don’t let them fucking make Macs anymore GWjiangoOmegaLUL

restive garnet Aug 21, 2020, 2:48 PM

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as much as i like to shit on apple for having such an overpriced product in terms of specs

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the area they really excel is the user experience

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 2:49 PM

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Like I guess it’s premium to have a nice design on a phone lmao

restive garnet Aug 21, 2020, 2:49 PM

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its very easy for a person with very little technological knowledge to pick up an iphone and use it to its full capabilities

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 2:49 PM

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Oh and there’s going to be blackberries coming in 2921 with 5G

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2021*

restive garnet Aug 21, 2020, 2:49 PM

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2921?

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damn

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thats a long ass way away

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 2:49 PM

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Yeah, 901 years later

restive garnet Aug 21, 2020, 2:50 PM

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we'll probably all be dead by then anyway

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 2:50 PM

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Well true

restive garnet Aug 21, 2020, 2:50 PM

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either coronavirus, or world war three

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 2:50 PM

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Unless we just copy futurama and make the Body Refrigerator for ourselves

restive garnet Aug 21, 2020, 2:50 PM

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or natural selection

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i always enjoy the gimmick of freezing people, to be thawed out in the future when they have the technology to do so

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like, you are just gambling that its even possible to unfreeze someone

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 2:52 PM

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Caveman in 2014? He was frozen

restive garnet Aug 21, 2020, 2:53 PM

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not sure what you are referring to

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 2:53 PM

#

Speaking of Apple’s user experience, I think their support says otherwise

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“My monitor stand broke.”

restive garnet Aug 21, 2020, 2:54 PM

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lmao

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bet it was the 1000 dollar one

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 2:55 PM

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“Ok we’re getting the highest tech here to fix it even though you obviously could fix this yourself”

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Apple is just disgusting

restive garnet Aug 21, 2020, 2:55 PM

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might be an apples to oranges comparison, no pun intended, but i think of apple like system integrators

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 2:56 PM

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I remember there was a video of a MacBook needing repair

restive garnet Aug 21, 2020, 2:56 PM

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the thing they do well is providing a system out of the box that works

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 2:56 PM

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Apple refused to fix it or some shit, guy in video easily fixed it himself

restive garnet Aug 21, 2020, 2:56 PM

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except for the part where system integrators are generally useless

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 2:57 PM

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I wouldn’t be surprised if Apple’s tech repair team was just a bunch of guys who never even got training to fix a Mac with a broken stand

restive garnet Aug 21, 2020, 2:58 PM

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half the time, thats what they are

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might get one person in the whole department who actually knows what they are doing

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 2:58 PM

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And it’s the Genius Bar iirc, whatever the fuck it was called

restive garnet Aug 21, 2020, 2:58 PM

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the rest of them just know how to use google

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hell, i almost fixed my monitor when i broke it a couple of years back

#

heaps of guides on google

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 2:59 PM

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How to use google? What the hell they should be using SAFARI

restive garnet Aug 21, 2020, 2:59 PM

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problem is, the display would have cost more to get than the whole repair costed

#

lets be real, noone knows how to use safari 😉

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 2:59 PM

#

Now they have to safari the fixes 😎

restive garnet Aug 21, 2020, 2:59 PM

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not even apple themselves

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 3:00 PM

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I only use safari as if I was using incognito

restive garnet Aug 21, 2020, 3:00 PM

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oh

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so only for porn

#

got it

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 3:00 PM

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Lmao yeah

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Otherwise I just use Firefox

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Wonder why I use my own browser but eh

#

Dunno why they even put me on fire anyways smh

minor crane Aug 21, 2020, 4:25 PM

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um what?

late sorrel Aug 21, 2020, 6:31 PM

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it’s not hard to kill history

fringe garden Aug 21, 2020, 8:14 PM

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it’s not hard to kill history
Jesus

eternal cairn Aug 21, 2020, 8:29 PM

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I think they meant "clear" history.

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But you can still set your PC on fire just to be safer. coxKappa

dense wasp Aug 21, 2020, 8:30 PM

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@fleet canopy as I understood it. 3090 and new titan are both coming

sick reef Aug 21, 2020, 9:09 PM

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hmmm

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 9:38 PM

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There was supposed to be something like 3050 ~~if that actually happens~~, 3060, 3070/Ti, 3080/Ti, 3090

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At first I thought they’d do a Titan but the 3090 has specs that would seem like that should have been a Titan

#

They also said something about the 3090 replacing the 3080 Ti which seems kinda bs imo because as said, 3090 is just a renamed Titan

vapid crypt Aug 21, 2020, 9:57 PM

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There's a Titan according to the info that's out there, it has more SMs but slower memory

jade ermine Aug 21, 2020, 9:59 PM

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📎 Ef97ZgNX0AIvGAt.png

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📎 Ef97ahFXgAECr66.png

vapid crypt Aug 21, 2020, 9:59 PM

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That's a beefy boi

jade ermine Aug 21, 2020, 10:00 PM

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sadly

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aircooled it does not fit in my case

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 10:00 PM

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The length of “No one will ever be able to fit this in a case that’s under 100$

jade ermine Aug 21, 2020, 10:00 PM

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reservoir cucks it

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hopefully i can get one with normal size from evga, that would be ideal

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bit afraid to waterblock one without testing it first xd

vapid crypt Aug 21, 2020, 10:01 PM

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Well either you wait for something smaller, waterblock or get a lower tier card phaSip

jade ermine Aug 21, 2020, 10:01 PM

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AIB cards should be different

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hopefully

vapid crypt Aug 21, 2020, 10:02 PM

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The only AIB card I've seen was that Strix one, probably about as big

jade ermine Aug 21, 2020, 10:03 PM

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pff

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i refuse to believe that msi gaming x trio size is the only size those will be available

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lol

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also 3 slot thicc

vapid crypt Aug 21, 2020, 10:06 PM

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Its big, hot and power hungry

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This is gonna be a good GPU generation

#

PirateSimon

steep crater Aug 21, 2020, 10:08 PM

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Hey! I'm having some FPS issue in the game, especially on R3C1 and R3D1. On all the maps I have about 90 to 140 FPS but on C1 and D1 it rapidly changes between 30 and 70. The settings are on the highest resolution and didn't make any difference when I set it low.

i7 7800x
2080s
32GB DDR4
Could somebody help me out? (V-sync off)

abstract kite Aug 21, 2020, 10:36 PM

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@steep crater When is the last time you have cleaned your computer, checked temperatures or updated drivers?

steep crater Aug 21, 2020, 10:37 PM

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Well I tried all of them when I met this problem

abstract kite Aug 21, 2020, 10:37 PM

#

KM_Think

steep crater Aug 21, 2020, 10:38 PM

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Even set some things in the Bios regarding ram

abstract kite Aug 21, 2020, 10:40 PM

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It could be just un-optimization for those levels in general. The further you go down the more spawns and what not.

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Have you had this problem on other applications?

steep crater Aug 21, 2020, 10:41 PM

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Not really

hexed horizon Aug 21, 2020, 10:43 PM

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But honestly, why would a 2080s fail at running GTFO on a decent framerate

finite violet Aug 21, 2020, 10:49 PM

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I too notice framedrops in very specific locations on specific expeditions

vapid crypt Aug 21, 2020, 10:49 PM

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This is only happening on C1 and D1?

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I haven't gotten that low so I have no idea if I would personally experience a drastic change in performance so

finite violet Aug 21, 2020, 10:50 PM

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zone 13, the room where you pull the 2nd alarm for C1, seems to have a noticeable framedrop

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The people I play with have reported the same issue

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It also happens in the alarm room on B1

#

I've also noticed that so far it seems to consistently be pared with the flashlight bug. (your flashlight stops working despite being on in certain spots)

vapid crypt Aug 21, 2020, 10:51 PM

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There's usually a notable drop when enemy waves spawn

finite violet Aug 21, 2020, 10:52 PM

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So my suspicion is that it might be an issue with just too much lights in those areas

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And framerate already drops in those rooms before pulling the alarm as far i know

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However, once the wave spawns it's likely to drop even more yeh

fleet canopy Aug 21, 2020, 11:09 PM

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I mean, it could be optimization. After all, someone with a 9900K and a 2080 Ti reported running 45fps albeit it being the first beta, but it still shows that it isn’t exactly the most optimized game and they still need to work on it anyways

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But for me, I’ve just seen it hang 80-130FPS generally, only time it’d go below 60 would be doing yhecelevator loading

vapid crypt Aug 21, 2020, 11:11 PM

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It could be anything though, I think this is something they fixed already but I remember reading in patch notes that certain systems would get better performance when on Exclusive Fullscreen

dense wasp Aug 21, 2020, 11:16 PM

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@jade ermine that is a beefy boy for sure..!

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It will fit my case luckily enough 😛

abstract kite Aug 21, 2020, 11:28 PM

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should hold a mini rig contest here

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most powerful rig wins a flex tag

dense wasp Aug 21, 2020, 11:28 PM

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Have I already won then? 🧐

abstract kite Aug 21, 2020, 11:28 PM

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Is that a flex?

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💪

dense wasp Aug 21, 2020, 11:29 PM

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Could be!

abstract kite Aug 21, 2020, 11:29 PM

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i think this contest would be fun

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see some unique things

vapid crypt Aug 21, 2020, 11:33 PM

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Should it be most powerful, or best looking?

abstract kite Aug 21, 2020, 11:51 PM

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Combination of both.

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We can go categories.

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Best overall looks, best overall performance, best overall power ectra.

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And if someone falls in the same category, well, nice.

fleet canopy Aug 22, 2020, 6:25 AM

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NVIDIA and ROG asked this dude to destroy his old PC and would send him new PC parts if he showed it happening with a video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SUsWWI3Rk8

vapid crypt Aug 22, 2020, 11:13 AM

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I didn't think it was possible to kill a computer using Minecraft

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So the GDDR6X they're using in the new Nvidia cards run really hot, explains why they designed the cooler the way they did. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYe58D76YGg

abstract kite Aug 22, 2020, 11:43 AM

#

https://t.co/AZyIlL6Amt is $212 a good price for a MSI X570?

vapid crypt Aug 22, 2020, 1:01 PM

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X570 Tomahawk is a great board, I would personally go for the B550 version though

#

I think its like $40 cheaper

#

The only feature you would miss out is Gen 4 PCIe on the chipset, you still get Gen 4 in B550 on the top slot and first M.2 though

#

So for most people Gen 4 on the Chipset doesn't usually matter

#

Oh I just noticed the X570 board comes with Wi-fi so if that's important probably something to consider then

gilded prawn Aug 22, 2020, 1:11 PM

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So for most people Gen 4 on the Chipset doesn't usually matter
@vapid crypt

RTX 3000 series likely uses Gen4. Not saying OP is definitely going to but I think x570 is a worthy investment for futureproofing and upgrading to Zen 3 and RDNA2/Turing

vapid crypt Aug 22, 2020, 1:11 PM

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Like I said B550 has Gen 4, its just not on the Chipset

gilded prawn Aug 22, 2020, 1:12 PM

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Yeap it's there just limited and would have issues running gen4 nvme as well

vapid crypt Aug 22, 2020, 1:13 PM

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It wouldn't there's enough lanes on the CPU to support a GPU and 1 NVME

gilded prawn Aug 22, 2020, 1:13 PM

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True true

vapid crypt Aug 22, 2020, 1:13 PM

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If you need more lanes for multiple Gen 4 NVMEs, that would be the use case for X570

gilded prawn Aug 22, 2020, 1:15 PM

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Since SLI/crossfire is more or less dead

abstract kite Aug 22, 2020, 5:15 PM

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The B550 I was gonna get jumped from $150 to around $250.

fiery panther Aug 22, 2020, 5:15 PM

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Oof

vapid crypt Aug 22, 2020, 5:15 PM

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Which board?

fiery panther Aug 22, 2020, 5:15 PM

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I'm thinking about upgrading my motherboard and CPU when I have money

#

I have 1.5 tb rn so decently enough for the first few years to come

abstract kite Aug 22, 2020, 5:17 PM

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Asros I know I butchered that name.

vapid crypt Aug 22, 2020, 5:17 PM

#

Asrock?

fleet canopy Aug 22, 2020, 5:17 PM

#

The new Asros board

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:)

abstract kite Aug 22, 2020, 5:17 PM

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Yeah

vapid crypt Aug 22, 2020, 5:18 PM

#

Asrock what?

abstract kite Aug 22, 2020, 5:18 PM

#

BearSad

#

It was a B550 Motherboard

fleet canopy Aug 22, 2020, 5:18 PM

#

TUF?

vapid crypt Aug 22, 2020, 5:18 PM

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Sure but there's more than one model

fleet canopy Aug 22, 2020, 5:18 PM

#

Actually TUF is Asus

#

I think?

#

I forget shit

abstract kite Aug 22, 2020, 5:19 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-b550-aorus-elite/p/N82E16813145214

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I was wrong

vapid crypt Aug 22, 2020, 5:19 PM

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Uh what phaWesker

abstract kite Aug 22, 2020, 5:19 PM

#

It was this ome

fleet canopy Aug 22, 2020, 5:20 PM

#

Kek

#

Maybe it's a different retailer jacking up prices like maybe Amazon

abstract kite Aug 22, 2020, 5:21 PM

#

Amazon jacked it up first then Newegg followed

vapid crypt Aug 22, 2020, 5:21 PM

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Probably the same seller no?

abstract kite Aug 22, 2020, 5:21 PM

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Unsure.

#

If I'm gonna be paying 220+ I might as well fork over another 20 and get a X570

vapid crypt Aug 22, 2020, 5:23 PM

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Well what's wrong with the Aorus Elite board?

#

Or the Tomahawk boards

fleet canopy Aug 22, 2020, 5:23 PM

#

It was 250$

vapid crypt Aug 22, 2020, 5:23 PM

#

It says $159

fleet canopy Aug 22, 2020, 5:23 PM

#

Now it's 160$

vapid crypt Aug 22, 2020, 5:23 PM

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So I dunno

fleet canopy Aug 22, 2020, 5:24 PM

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Either Galerus saw the wrong board or they switched the price pretty quick

abstract kite Aug 22, 2020, 5:24 PM

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Price must of changed

#

It was about 2-3 weeks after I saw it go up in price

vapid crypt Aug 22, 2020, 5:32 PM

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Its not even the price going up, its the main retailer running out of their stock and third party sellers having their listing as the primary one

somber fossil Aug 23, 2020, 2:18 AM

#

I was dropping mad frames this afternoon while playing the game. I've 20hours over the past week before without experiencing any frames dropping and I don't think i had anything open that wasnt open before

eternal cairn Aug 23, 2020, 2:34 AM

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You might wanna head to #gtfo-technical-support to get assistance with that.

#

Also, I need a new GPU.

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fleet canopy Aug 23, 2020, 2:37 AM

#

lol

#

What's wrong?

eternal cairn Aug 23, 2020, 2:39 AM

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I'm currently using my GPU with After Effects rendering, which apparently seems to get overexerted when I'm using the Gaussian blur effect. Also, the render is 4k60.

fleet canopy Aug 23, 2020, 2:39 AM

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Fair enough

eternal cairn Aug 23, 2020, 2:39 AM

#

I wish the newer GPUs would come out sooner so I can upgrade to something better.

fleet canopy Aug 23, 2020, 2:39 AM

#

Sooner

#

It is coming sooner

#

Every second

#

Minute

#

Hour

#

Day

eternal cairn Aug 23, 2020, 2:40 AM

#

I want it to be here in the next second.

#

I'm disappointed.

fleet canopy Aug 23, 2020, 2:40 AM

#

It is coming September 1

#

Ish

eternal cairn Aug 23, 2020, 2:41 AM

#

I seriously hate how GPUs almost literally never go on sale.

#

Greed consumes all (unless there are worthy competitors).

fleet canopy Aug 23, 2020, 2:42 AM

#

AMD

eternal cairn Aug 23, 2020, 2:44 AM

#

Intel. coxKappa

#

Imagine if all three companies made both CPUs and GPUs.

fleet canopy Aug 23, 2020, 2:50 AM

#

lol

vapid crypt Aug 23, 2020, 2:58 AM

#

Well Intel XE GPUs will be a thing... I wouldn't expect much from it until after a couple generations

fleet canopy Aug 23, 2020, 2:59 AM

#

I don't think it'll really be consumer anyways

#

At least in terms of using it for personal

eternal cairn Aug 23, 2020, 2:59 AM

#

I saw that.

fleet canopy Aug 23, 2020, 2:59 AM

#

Just more of a server GPU if that's a thing

vapid crypt Aug 23, 2020, 2:59 AM

#

It will be, I don't see why they wouldn't do that

fleet canopy Aug 23, 2020, 2:59 AM

#

Oh?

vapid crypt Aug 23, 2020, 2:59 AM

#

Obviously they'll target Server first

#

That's where the money is, but they can easily do it all

eternal cairn Aug 23, 2020, 3:00 AM

#

Server-end GPU rendering for cloud-based games, I presume.

fleet canopy Aug 23, 2020, 3:00 AM

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Last I heard no one should even dare touch it unless it's like big business servers

eternal cairn Aug 23, 2020, 3:00 AM

#

Watch Linus use it to try and play Tomb Raider.

fleet canopy Aug 23, 2020, 3:00 AM

#

lol

#

Tomb Raider

vapid crypt Aug 23, 2020, 3:01 AM

#

The DG1 GPU is the closest thing they have for consumer graphics, its on the level of something you would find in a Laptop though

eternal cairn Aug 23, 2020, 3:01 AM

#

So, it's crap?

fleet canopy Aug 23, 2020, 3:01 AM

#

lol

vapid crypt Aug 23, 2020, 3:01 AM

#

Technically yes

#

But you gotta start with something

fleet canopy Aug 23, 2020, 3:01 AM

#

Sounds like it'll be reworked just like their poor CPUs

eternal cairn Aug 23, 2020, 3:01 AM

#

Wait, they're reworking their CPUs?

vapid crypt Aug 23, 2020, 3:01 AM

#

Its a huge improvement over what they had in integrated graphics

fleet canopy Aug 23, 2020, 3:02 AM

#

I mean like refreshes

#

Not reworks

#

Me dumb

vapid crypt Aug 23, 2020, 3:02 AM

#

That isn't saying too much though

eternal cairn Aug 23, 2020, 3:02 AM

#

Aw, I almost got excited.

fleet canopy Aug 23, 2020, 3:02 AM

#

They'll get 10nm in 2077

eternal cairn Aug 23, 2020, 3:02 AM

#

I figured their next improvement would be temps.

fleet canopy Aug 23, 2020, 3:02 AM

#

While AMD will be on 1nm

eternal cairn Aug 23, 2020, 3:02 AM

#

What's smaller than nm?

vapid crypt Aug 23, 2020, 3:03 AM

#

We might see something more interesting from Intel in GPUs next year I guess?

fleet canopy Aug 23, 2020, 3:03 AM

#

1000 m 1 x 103 m
Hecta- 100 m 1 x 102 m
Deka- 10 m 1 x 101 m
BASE 1 m 1 x 100 m
Deci- 0.1 m 1 x 10-1 m
Centi- 0.01 m 1 x 10-2 m
Milli- 0.001 m 1 x 10-3 m
Micro- 0.000001 m 1 x 10-6 m
Nano- 0.000000001 m 1 x 10-9 m
Pico- 0.000000000001 m 1 x 10-12 m
Femto- 0.000000000000001 m

vapid crypt Aug 23, 2020, 3:03 AM

#

See so here's the thing

eternal cairn Aug 23, 2020, 3:03 AM

#

AMD will be on pm by the time Intel gets to 10 nm.

vapid crypt Aug 23, 2020, 3:04 AM

#

Whenever the size of the node is mentioned, its largely used for marketing

fleet canopy Aug 23, 2020, 3:04 AM

#

There's only so much you could fit in anything small enough

eternal cairn Aug 23, 2020, 3:04 AM

#

0.1 nm.

fleet canopy Aug 23, 2020, 3:04 AM

#

Decimeter

vapid crypt Aug 23, 2020, 3:04 AM

#

When they go below 1nm to picometer, and then when people see a bigger number than 1 or .5 whatever

fleet canopy Aug 23, 2020, 3:04 AM

#

Wait me dumb

eternal cairn Aug 23, 2020, 3:05 AM

#

LOL

vapid crypt Aug 23, 2020, 3:05 AM

#

Uh it kinda ruins the marketing right

#

I don't think we'll see it in the marketing anymore probably I dunno

eternal cairn Aug 23, 2020, 3:05 AM

#

Not if you're engaged enough to actually understand anything about metrics.

fleet canopy Aug 23, 2020, 3:05 AM

#

14 nm and 7 nm is good enough

#

14nm is just getting squeezed out poorly though

#

But imagine

#

Having a really small node size

vapid crypt Aug 23, 2020, 3:06 AM

#

Sure, but the normies might understand "okay so if this number is smaller, that means it'll be better."

fleet canopy Aug 23, 2020, 3:06 AM

#

And saying it exists

#

It should perform cool because small

#

But there's only so much you can get with it going smaller

eternal cairn Aug 23, 2020, 3:07 AM

#

I feel like normies would think that "a bigger number means it'll be better".

fleet canopy Aug 23, 2020, 3:07 AM

#

Until it actually performs worse because it is too small for it to outperform their bigger ones

vapid crypt Aug 23, 2020, 3:07 AM

#

Regarding clockspeeds yeah

#

I think the node size shrinking is apparent enough in the marketing for all of this stuff

eternal cairn Aug 23, 2020, 3:37 AM

#

My poor hard drive...

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fleet canopy Aug 23, 2020, 3:38 AM

#

E

eternal cairn Aug 23, 2020, 3:44 AM

#

More like F.

fleet canopy Aug 23, 2020, 3:45 AM

#

I think you just have a windows 10 bug lel

#

Not a win 10 bug, but it can be fixed nonetheless

eternal cairn Aug 23, 2020, 3:45 AM

#

It's not a bug.

fleet canopy Aug 23, 2020, 3:45 AM

#

I do not remember how it was repaired in the first place so don't ask me

eternal cairn Aug 23, 2020, 3:45 AM

#

I'm just rendering/exporting my 4k60 video file.

fleet canopy Aug 23, 2020, 3:45 AM

#

Oh

#

Is it SSD?

eternal cairn Aug 23, 2020, 3:46 AM

#

AE likes to export really big file sizes.

fleet canopy Aug 23, 2020, 3:46 AM

#

Actually no

eternal cairn Aug 23, 2020, 3:46 AM

#

Nah, I have no room on my SSD.

fleet canopy Aug 23, 2020, 3:46 AM

#

You want storage over speed anyway

eternal cairn Aug 23, 2020, 3:46 AM

#

The .MOV file generated by After Effects is 49 GB.

fleet canopy Aug 23, 2020, 3:46 AM

#

When will SSDs have more storage or at least have it cheaper.

eternal cairn Aug 23, 2020, 3:46 AM

#

It's only 4 minutes long.

#

I got a 1 TB SSD for free, but the urge to use it is overpowering the rationality of waiting until my current SSD dies.

fleet canopy Aug 23, 2020, 3:47 AM

#

Steve from GamersNexus being that one Fallout 4 guy and telling you that you are mounting your AIOs wrong

#

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbGomv195sk

eternal cairn Aug 23, 2020, 3:47 AM

#

LOL

fleet canopy Aug 23, 2020, 3:48 AM

#

I love GamersNexus' thumbnails

#

And some of their holy intro

#

Like the yearly "Shitty PC" thing

#

With all the crappy fuckups in tech during the year

eternal cairn Aug 23, 2020, 3:51 AM

#

The only shitty PC right now is mine.

fleet canopy Aug 23, 2020, 3:52 AM

#

No

#

It's all the crappy console peasants building a really badly put together PC with the "same" price as a relevant console and it fucking dies in the first 5 minutes

#

And post on reddit how bad PC is

eternal cairn Aug 23, 2020, 3:52 AM

#

Oh. LOL

fleet canopy Aug 23, 2020, 3:53 AM

#

https://tenor.com/view/mod-discord-mods-typing-removing-stars-ace-ventura-gif-17745555

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^ The console nerds typing how they feel about PCs

eternal cairn Aug 23, 2020, 3:53 AM

#

LUL

#

I set my export to have a target bitrate of 10 mbps and a maximum of 40 mbps (only to be safe). It ended up being 20 mbps.

#

4k60 is super demanding.

fleet canopy Aug 23, 2020, 3:57 AM

#

There's only so much an HDD can do

eternal cairn Aug 23, 2020, 3:57 AM

#

Bitrate isn't hardware-related.

fleet canopy Aug 23, 2020, 3:57 AM

#

Except store massive as hell amount of bytes

#

Hm.

eternal cairn Aug 23, 2020, 3:57 AM

#

In my case, I mean.

fleet canopy Aug 23, 2020, 3:57 AM

#

Oh I see

#

By how much speed you're getting from what you paid for

#

Which I assume is not even close to 50% of what you paid for

eternal cairn Aug 23, 2020, 3:58 AM

#

?

#

Bitrate in my case determines the quality of the video. Higher = better quality.

fleet canopy Aug 23, 2020, 4:00 AM

#

Hm.

eternal cairn Aug 23, 2020, 4:00 AM

#

Although, After Effects tends to go for 1:1 lossless quality upon export, which results in ludicrous file sizes, which I then have to scale down using Media Encoder.

#

The visual quality is amazing, even after scaling it down.

#

~~Fuck me.~~ Fuck you, Adobe.

#

I need to get an additional paid plan to use the HEVC codec with Adobe Media Encoder.

#

This is why piracy exists.

restive garnet Aug 23, 2020, 4:24 AM

#

I remember reading an academic study on digital piracy a few years back, content was pretty hazy, but the conclusion of it was that the harder you make it to get something legitimately, is the more likely it is to get pirated

fleet canopy Aug 23, 2020, 4:25 AM

#

Like Windows 10 Home key 👀

restive garnet Aug 23, 2020, 4:25 AM

#

It was particularly interesting looking at content which is not offered on a digital store

fleet canopy Aug 23, 2020, 4:25 AM

#

Pointless to pay for it

restive garnet Aug 23, 2020, 4:25 AM

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A legit copy of windows is like 200 bucks tho

fleet canopy Aug 23, 2020, 4:25 AM

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100$USD

eternal cairn Aug 23, 2020, 4:25 AM

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Wait, Windows 10 Home?

restive garnet Aug 23, 2020, 4:25 AM

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Closer to 200 nzd

eternal cairn Aug 23, 2020, 4:25 AM

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How about Windows 10 Pro?

restive garnet Aug 23, 2020, 4:26 AM

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170 iirc

eternal cairn Aug 23, 2020, 4:26 AM

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The worst part is that Windows 10 Pro has almost no substantial improvements.

restive garnet Aug 23, 2020, 4:26 AM

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Pretty much

fleet canopy Aug 23, 2020, 4:26 AM

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Nah it does have some imrpvoements

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The improvements are more useless features

restive garnet Aug 23, 2020, 4:26 AM

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Thankfully i got my win 10 pro key for free off a mate

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Apparently his work had unlimited use win 7 keys for troubleshooting

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So he gave me one of those, then i got a new key with the win 10 upgrade

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Ezpz

eternal cairn Aug 23, 2020, 4:28 AM

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Useless features aren't improvements.

fleet canopy Aug 23, 2020, 4:28 AM

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They are

eternal cairn Aug 23, 2020, 4:28 AM

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It'd be like saying "Here's a pedometer even though you don't jog/run."

fleet canopy Aug 23, 2020, 4:29 AM

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It improves the range of features available to you, useless or not

eternal cairn Aug 23, 2020, 4:29 AM

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😤

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I never knew copyleft was an actual term.

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I need more cores/threads.

fleet canopy Aug 23, 2020, 4:34 AM

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kek

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Everyone needs more of something

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I need more cooling and frames.

eternal cairn Aug 23, 2020, 4:35 AM

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If you want cooling, move farther north.

fleet canopy Aug 23, 2020, 4:35 AM

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l o l

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No

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It'd be nicer having a new case, better quality fans and a CPU cooler

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Which I will have to nab one right back

eternal cairn Aug 23, 2020, 4:37 AM

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"A new case." What's wrong with your current one?

fleet canopy Aug 23, 2020, 4:39 AM

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Kind of want to change the case for a different look

eternal cairn Aug 23, 2020, 4:41 AM

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:/

abstract kite Aug 23, 2020, 2:16 PM

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📎 Screenshot_20200823-090445.png

old patrol Aug 23, 2020, 2:50 PM

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lol

snow rain Aug 23, 2020, 4:48 PM

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Lmao

eternal cairn Aug 23, 2020, 9:38 PM

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LUL

coral sand Aug 23, 2020, 11:25 PM

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tbf, Intel is still better at gaming and IPC heavy tasks

vapid crypt Aug 23, 2020, 11:30 PM

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Just gaming, Ryzen IPC is superior its just Intel can get clockspeed as high as 5.3Ghz so that makes up for the IPC disadvantage

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So in lighter core loads I suppose that might be better

jade ermine Aug 24, 2020, 12:03 AM

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let blue team enjoy their +6% fps while they have something to enjoy about

vapid crypt Aug 24, 2020, 12:05 AM

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6% at 1080p PirateSimon

dawn crown Aug 24, 2020, 12:17 AM

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Henlo

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I ham bac

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My computer wifi isn't work

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It says it's not fininding a network driver

coral sand Aug 24, 2020, 12:39 AM

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@vapid crypt Clock for clock, sure, but Intel is always running at higher clocks

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Don't take this as fanboyism

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I'm all AMD

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But you gotta give the devil his dues

vapid crypt Aug 24, 2020, 12:40 AM

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No not at all, but that's why I mentioned the 5.3Ghz

coral sand Aug 24, 2020, 12:40 AM

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tbh, I have some respect for their 10th gen lineup

vapid crypt Aug 24, 2020, 12:41 AM

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I think how they sanded the silicon and used better heat spreaders was clever

coral sand Aug 24, 2020, 12:41 AM

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It feels like Intel finally gave a decent lineup against AMD

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It's pretty impressive

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tbh, it's shocking how well they are stretching out the 14nm tech

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Them being competitive at all on that node is insane

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Shame they can't shrink for shit

vapid crypt Aug 24, 2020, 12:42 AM

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Its their ringbus architecture

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Since it has tighter latency between the cores and cache compared Ryzen, that's pretty much why certain tasks like Gaming is faster

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Not even clock speed actually, people have clocked Ryzen to 5Ghz only improved things by like 2%

coral sand Aug 24, 2020, 12:43 AM

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huh

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I actually didn't know that

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That's pretty interesting

vapid crypt Aug 24, 2020, 12:44 AM

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Basically RAM is the key for Ryzen, cause of how the architecture has split CCXs, the Cache and cores are divided

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It needs fast RAM to help everything work faster, clock speed does nothing for that architecture really. As far as stuff like gaming and light core loads are concerned

void perch Aug 24, 2020, 12:45 AM

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It says it's not fininding a network driver
@dawn crown you'll need to check the manufacturer website and download the driver then

vapid crypt Aug 24, 2020, 12:45 AM

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I think for the current Gen stuff, clock speed basically soft caps at 4.4Ghz

coral sand Aug 24, 2020, 12:46 AM

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Indeed, thank God that newer ryzen chip handles memory well

vapid crypt Aug 24, 2020, 12:46 AM

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Anything more might benefit a tiny bit, but for the most part that's how it is

coral sand Aug 24, 2020, 12:46 AM

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Yeah, playing Crysis confirms that

vapid crypt Aug 24, 2020, 12:47 AM

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Well the new Crysis is Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 PirateSimon

fleet canopy Aug 24, 2020, 12:52 AM

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But what about Remastered? ~~Did it release yet?~~

vapid crypt Aug 24, 2020, 12:54 AM

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I think so? Heard it was meh though

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Oh its coming out next month

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And I forgot it was Epic Exclusive

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Gross

dawn crown Aug 24, 2020, 12:59 AM

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@void perch big BRAIN

jagged estuary Aug 24, 2020, 1:02 AM

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oh boy i bought an i5 8400 for my pc when it was about 20fps above ryzen, and then 1 year later ryzen is equal with intel in the gaming market, i regret almost nothing

vapid crypt Aug 24, 2020, 1:04 AM

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Still better than the people that paid over $300 for a quad core in early 2017; only for Intel to cuck them later that year with 6 core i7s PirateSimon

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Though probably more of a paper launch at the time, more likely to get em in the following year but still

jade ermine Aug 24, 2020, 1:06 AM

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@vapid crypt Friend i built this system was one of those people, I told him to wait 2 months for next gen but patience got him

📎 wIt7nSW.png

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I edit message to this so you can see picture without clicking links lol

vapid crypt Aug 24, 2020, 1:07 AM

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2 months before 8700k huh

jade ermine Aug 24, 2020, 1:07 AM

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yup

vapid crypt Aug 24, 2020, 1:07 AM

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Still on it?

jade ermine Aug 24, 2020, 1:07 AM

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still on it

vapid crypt Aug 24, 2020, 1:08 AM

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Seeing as Intel parts hold their value well, I mean you aren't getting 300 for it obviously but you know phaWesker

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If i3s weren't locked, the 10th gen i3s would be matching the 7700K

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And I think its close enough as it is

jade ermine Aug 24, 2020, 1:09 AM

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yeet

vapid crypt Aug 24, 2020, 1:09 AM

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So yeah in 3 years what you used to pay $330 for, you're getting for less than $140

jade ermine Aug 24, 2020, 1:10 AM

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7700K was not cheap at all when he got it either

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really hurt my brain the whole thing

vapid crypt Aug 24, 2020, 1:10 AM

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No 3300X in stock though

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That truly has been a paper launch

jade ermine Aug 24, 2020, 1:10 AM

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but on the bright side he got to game faster lol

vapid crypt Aug 24, 2020, 1:10 AM

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I suppose he still does in Counter Strike PirateSimon

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If only by literally 20fps

jade ermine Aug 24, 2020, 1:11 AM

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well i mean that instead of waiting he was gaming lol

vapid crypt Aug 24, 2020, 1:11 AM

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Sure

jade ermine Aug 24, 2020, 1:12 AM

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CPU usage with 4C8T is pretty high now. Too bad he did not go with am4 hehe

vapid crypt Aug 24, 2020, 1:13 AM

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Or wait for Z370

jade ermine Aug 24, 2020, 1:13 AM

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yea..

vapid crypt Aug 24, 2020, 1:14 AM

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Could have an 8 core now

jade ermine Aug 24, 2020, 1:14 AM

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it ez what it ez

vapid crypt Aug 24, 2020, 1:14 AM

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It eez what it eez rpdAmerica

dawn crown Aug 24, 2020, 1:48 AM

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I have reinstalled windows and the internet thing works now, all I had to do was put eithernet then install the 3100 n-300 netgear USB thing

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Also after I took my computer to fries they took it AND 8 DAYS LATER they gave it back and said, the harddrive was garbo so we replaced it and reinstalled windows.

fleet canopy Aug 24, 2020, 1:51 AM

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300$ 4 core i7, shortly after a 6 core i7 releases, that reminds me of someone

dawn crown Aug 24, 2020, 1:51 AM

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140

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For a 7200 ram

fleet canopy Aug 24, 2020, 1:51 AM

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Sounds dumb

dawn crown Aug 24, 2020, 1:51 AM

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Ikr

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AND OMG IS INTERNET FATS WHEN ITS IN EITHERNET

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ITS DOWNLOADIN AT LILE 10MBS

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3x my usual of 2-3

fleet canopy Aug 24, 2020, 1:53 AM

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Oh wow

eternal cairn Aug 24, 2020, 1:55 AM

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Ethernet is great, minus the cables.

dawn crown Aug 24, 2020, 1:56 AM

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Same with keyboard though

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I'd rather have cable that 2-3mbs

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📎 20200823_185717.jpg

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Like look at this madlad

fleet canopy Aug 24, 2020, 1:57 AM

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Minus the cables
Pfft, cables are superior and prove that you are richer

abstract kite Aug 24, 2020, 1:57 AM

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Yeah, the madlad who can't get a focused picture.

fleet canopy Aug 24, 2020, 1:58 AM

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Kek

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Might be a bad camera

dawn crown Aug 24, 2020, 1:58 AM

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📎 20200823_185821.jpg

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📎 20200823_185821.jpg

eternal cairn Aug 24, 2020, 1:58 AM

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My eyes actually hurt trying to look at that first screenshot.

abstract kite Aug 24, 2020, 1:58 AM

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Nice

fleet canopy Aug 24, 2020, 1:58 AM

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Danke

dawn crown Aug 24, 2020, 1:58 AM

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-p are u sure about that John cena

abstract kite Aug 24, 2020, 1:59 AM

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I get between 9-15mbs on battle net

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runs like a dream during big raids

fleet canopy Aug 24, 2020, 1:59 AM

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I get or will used to have used 25MB download speed

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10 to 25 is nutty

dawn crown Aug 24, 2020, 2:00 AM

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I'm nutting thinking of 20+mbs

fleet canopy Aug 24, 2020, 2:00 AM

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One of those days I’m gonna just have myself 100MB to use

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Course it’s pretty cancer so

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It’ll eventually get cheaper maybe when stuff like that becomes better

dawn crown Aug 24, 2020, 2:01 AM

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If I ever become Bill Gates adopted child I'll make sure to get one of those giant internet things

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Like the huge ones

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Servers use

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https://images.app.goo.gl/uDTjjUUqz33QFNhF6

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This

void perch Aug 24, 2020, 2:09 AM

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Data Center?

dawn crown Aug 24, 2020, 2:09 AM

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Maybe?

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Is that how it works?

void perch Aug 24, 2020, 2:10 AM

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A DC holds a bunch or servers.

dawn crown Aug 24, 2020, 2:10 AM

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So that means fast

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You'd have root in it house

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Riot*

void perch Aug 24, 2020, 2:10 AM

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Servers process things, like hosts websites, holds databases, etc

dawn crown Aug 24, 2020, 2:11 AM

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But wat if u plug into computer

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Or is a server a computer itself

void perch Aug 24, 2020, 2:11 AM

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A server is a computer

dawn crown Aug 24, 2020, 2:11 AM

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Frick

void perch Aug 24, 2020, 2:11 AM

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A more powerful PC

dawn crown Aug 24, 2020, 2:12 AM

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Could it play blip blop

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Or despacito

void perch Aug 24, 2020, 2:12 AM

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Lol

dawn crown Aug 24, 2020, 2:14 AM

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Wow I have 1 bar of internet and I'm sitting 1 foot away from my router

abstract kite Aug 24, 2020, 2:32 AM

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F

late sorrel Aug 24, 2020, 2:32 AM

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a server is a computer that is usually configured to run programs continuously for days on end

fleet canopy Aug 24, 2020, 3:43 AM

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Not exactly meant to be for gaming

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You could, but it’d be much better not gaming on a computer being used as a server because otherwise that server stuff is shitting itself when you try to play games

fiery panther Aug 24, 2020, 8:19 AM

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I keep running into the issue where I unplug my speakers and replug them, they're not recognised

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Anyone knowing how to fix it?

merry bay Aug 24, 2020, 8:30 AM

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Afaik, when you unplug speakers, all apps default to some other device.
The other device doesn't go away when you replug speakers, so apps stay on it.
Could be your monitor or some virtual audio cable. If you don't use them, it's a good idea to disable those.

eternal cairn Aug 24, 2020, 8:31 AM

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^

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I have to disable my monitor speakers every time, otherwise it defaults to it for some reason.

fiery panther Aug 24, 2020, 8:31 AM

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I have those disabled

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Replugging doesn't give a prompt

eternal cairn Aug 24, 2020, 8:32 AM

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Is it USB or the normal speaker plugs?

fiery panther Aug 24, 2020, 8:32 AM

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normal jack

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📎 unknown.png

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All my audio devices, should be realtek speakers somewhere, but it's not being recognised

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if I disable and re-enable my audio controller, could it be recognized?

merry bay Aug 24, 2020, 8:35 AM

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I'd right click the volume tray icon and go to Sounds to make sure stuff you never use is disabled.

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e. x. Realtek Digital Output

fiery panther Aug 24, 2020, 8:36 AM

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Done that, though still not recognised

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It's usb powered though

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Though audio is through a 3.5mm jack

merry bay Aug 24, 2020, 8:38 AM

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type realtek in your start search, maybe that software will help confirming settings

fiery panther Aug 24, 2020, 8:38 AM

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The audio console?

merry bay Aug 24, 2020, 8:38 AM

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yeah

fiery panther Aug 24, 2020, 8:38 AM

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Only registers 1 input and output, that being my headset

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So both a mic and a playback device

merry bay Aug 24, 2020, 8:39 AM

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mine has this

📎 unknown.png

fiery panther Aug 24, 2020, 8:40 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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turned on

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Fixed it

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changed this

📎 unknown.png

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Now it's in the list again

📎 unknown.png

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Thanks for the help mate

merry bay Aug 24, 2020, 8:42 AM

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well, good that you explore. wouldn't point in that particular direction ^^

fiery panther Aug 24, 2020, 8:42 AM

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Nor would I, though without you I wouldn't have found it lol

fiery panther Aug 24, 2020, 12:09 PM

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Alright, so i found a fix for steam

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I lowered the priority to low and made the priority for siege realtime

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Reaching 500fps in loading

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Was 200 at max before

fiery panther Aug 24, 2020, 12:46 PM

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Dreams?

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What are that

#

what is*

fiery panther Aug 24, 2020, 1:40 PM

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Hmm

eternal cairn Aug 24, 2020, 5:27 PM

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Hmm...

limpid jewel Aug 24, 2020, 6:36 PM

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Hi guys I need an CPU upgrade but idk if a x570 is future proof with an 3950x, few people reported throttling with an 3950x and x570 should I wait for the x670 and 4th gen Ryzen or upgrade now?

eternal cairn Aug 24, 2020, 6:36 PM

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I have a 3900x and I have not experienced any throttling.

limpid jewel Aug 24, 2020, 6:36 PM

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Money is no question, it's all about performance and future proof

eternal cairn Aug 24, 2020, 6:37 PM

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Are you using the PC only for gaming?

limpid jewel Aug 24, 2020, 6:37 PM

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No as workstation also

eternal cairn Aug 24, 2020, 6:37 PM

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Then AMD is worth it.

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All the extra cores/threads are especially beneficial to workstations.

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Intel only has a marginally higher clocking speed on their CPUs, but they get really hot.

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I haven't heard much about the new AMD processors though, but 16c/32t definitely sounds perfect for a workstation load.

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The only time anyone should ever go Intel is if they are only using their PC for gaming and nothing else.

fleet canopy Aug 24, 2020, 6:40 PM

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They say x570 boards and 3950 throttles? Hm

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They must be using a crap board with a 3950 then

brisk badger Aug 24, 2020, 6:40 PM

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That means90% of the people here😜

abstract kite Aug 24, 2020, 6:41 PM

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Hey my dad's computer is not booting, as in it starts then just shuts off. Any ideas?

eternal cairn Aug 24, 2020, 6:41 PM

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That happened to me when my RAM sticks weren't plugged in all the way. 😅

brisk badger Aug 24, 2020, 6:41 PM

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If there is no error message boot it as safe mode

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With booting i assume it boots to the bios

abstract kite Aug 24, 2020, 6:42 PM

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Changing the boot order in BIOS did not work.

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He tried that already

brisk badger Aug 24, 2020, 6:43 PM

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Try entering safe mode. From there work ur way through. Disable auto started apps, checks windows event viewer check pc hardware healths

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Does it try booting to windows? Eg logo shown

eternal cairn Aug 24, 2020, 6:44 PM

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@fleet canopy Do you know when the Ryzen 4000 series is coming out?

brisk badger Aug 24, 2020, 6:45 PM

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Also depending on the importance of the files: back them up if not done already

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Best to do this first

abstract kite Aug 24, 2020, 6:47 PM

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It gets to say the logo of the Motherboard in his case the "Pro-Series" then it says "Automatic repair" 3-5 seconds go past and then it just shuts off.

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They cannot even get into safe mode.

brisk badger Aug 24, 2020, 6:48 PM

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Safe mode should be possible else the OS is badly damaged

fleet canopy Aug 24, 2020, 6:48 PM

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Ryzen 4000 should be like after GPUs last I heard

eternal cairn Aug 24, 2020, 6:48 PM

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Could the hard drive be dying?

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Oof, so another 2-3 months?

brisk badger Aug 24, 2020, 6:48 PM

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By any chance: did u change the SATA mode in bios from IDE/Legacy to AHCI?

fleet canopy Aug 24, 2020, 6:49 PM

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Maybe, when Intel decides to drop their next gen if that’s going to happen?

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Although it was going to come 2021 iirc

eternal cairn Aug 24, 2020, 6:50 PM

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I'm gonna be laughing my ass off if Intel's next CPU doesn't have more than 8 cores and 8 threads.

abstract kite Aug 24, 2020, 6:50 PM

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The only thing he changed in the BIOS was having the USB Stick boot first so they can try to load the OS

brisk badger Aug 24, 2020, 6:50 PM

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What os did he load?

abstract kite Aug 24, 2020, 6:50 PM

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That did not work either

fleet canopy Aug 24, 2020, 6:50 PM

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I’d just say ryzen 4000 is going to come out when GPUs release to about 1-2 month after

brisk badger Aug 24, 2020, 6:50 PM

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He might have overwritten the bootmanager

abstract kite Aug 24, 2020, 6:50 PM

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How can that happen?

brisk badger Aug 24, 2020, 6:51 PM

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By loading another OS

fleet canopy Aug 24, 2020, 6:51 PM

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Because NVIDIA and AMD is having GPUs coming around September, AMD might throw in the ryzen 4000 for the hell of it

brisk badger Aug 24, 2020, 6:51 PM

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Bootrec.exe will be probably your solution. Need to access a shell tho

eternal cairn Aug 24, 2020, 6:52 PM

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Makes sense. I just want AMD to topple Nvidia now.

abstract kite Aug 24, 2020, 6:52 PM

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A what?

brisk badger Aug 24, 2020, 6:52 PM

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Either trough the repair service or safe mode

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Can u really not start it as safe mode?

abstract kite Aug 24, 2020, 6:52 PM

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What is the key for safe mode?

brisk badger Aug 24, 2020, 6:52 PM

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I forgot how windows 10 can enter safe mode need to google

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On mobile atm

fleet canopy Aug 24, 2020, 6:52 PM

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I wouldn’t be too surprised if their CPUs needed to have a better chipset maybe. But that’s just extra shit I’m putting in that no one’s ever confirmed

abstract kite Aug 24, 2020, 6:53 PM

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Would it be F4?

brisk badger Aug 24, 2020, 6:53 PM

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Also i am speculating, its not a conclusion. But accessing safe mode is the first step in the right direction

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I have to google. Currently walking. ttyl

eternal cairn Aug 24, 2020, 6:54 PM

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I'd be fine with AMD not having any extra cores/threads than the 3950x, so long as the clocking speeds start catching up with Intel.

fleet canopy Aug 24, 2020, 6:55 PM

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It’s not the clock speeds though

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They make little to no difference in performance if you just were to take it too fast

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The RAM is like Intel’s clock speed thing in a way

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Kind of like 90% of it usually

eternal cairn Aug 24, 2020, 6:56 PM

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The only reason I'm saying I'd be fine with it is because AMD is already destroying Intel with c/t count.

fleet canopy Aug 24, 2020, 6:57 PM

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So unlike intel which only needs like 2800-3200 for something nice, because they use a different way of how their CPU is designed, they only actually need to boost the clocks for better performance

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AMD doesn’t have that benefit of Intel CPUs so they make it work by giving it a nice amount like 4.5GHZ and letting the RAM do the rest of the speed which does benefit quite well in a lot of ways

eternal cairn Aug 24, 2020, 6:59 PM

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Yeah, I'm still confused on how AMD's infinity fabric works.

brisk badger Aug 24, 2020, 7:08 PM

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yea what apples said. I researched and it says after 3 failed attempts it should try loading the safe mode

fleet canopy Aug 24, 2020, 7:08 PM

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Hah

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How in the hell does infinity fabric work anyways

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I just forget things I’m dummy dum

eternal cairn Aug 24, 2020, 7:10 PM

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I heard it had something to do with half your RAM speed?

brisk badger Aug 24, 2020, 7:10 PM

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i understand it as some sort of internal bus for the cores to talk to each other. not really read anything about tho

abstract kite Aug 24, 2020, 7:10 PM

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@abstract kite yea safe mode is the best option in that instance
@abstract kite Yeah we cannot get into safe mode whatsoever

brisk badger Aug 24, 2020, 7:11 PM

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doesn't this pop up? : https://www.compspice.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/windows-10-safe-mode.jpg

abstract kite Aug 24, 2020, 7:11 PM

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No that does not come up, Wooza.

brisk badger Aug 24, 2020, 7:11 PM

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is it actually windows 10 or 7?

abstract kite Aug 24, 2020, 7:11 PM

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It is Windows 10 Pro

fleet canopy Aug 24, 2020, 7:12 PM

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Win 10 Pro. For the pro gamers

abstract kite Aug 24, 2020, 7:12 PM

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Anywho that screen does not come up.

brisk badger Aug 24, 2020, 7:12 PM

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auto repair pops up and starts directly?

abstract kite Aug 24, 2020, 7:12 PM

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Auto Repair Pops up then it just shuts down.

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After like 3-5 seconds

eternal cairn Aug 24, 2020, 7:13 PM

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That's what I'm thinking too.

brisk badger Aug 24, 2020, 7:13 PM

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do you know how your dad started that OS from the USB stick? From hearing it sounds like the bootloader was damaged or replaced

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or the hdd is bad but I don't think so. Faulty drives usually will make windows hang during loading not at the start

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unless it's severely damaged

abstract kite Aug 24, 2020, 7:14 PM

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The OS was booting fine just this morning. From what he told me he left his oculus on, walked away to have a smoke and then that popped up. His only solution was to try to enter the BIOS and have a USB Stick as the primary loader.

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Was the only way to get on the system or be left on the Auto Repair loop.

brisk badger Aug 24, 2020, 7:16 PM

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is this drive old? Maybe if possible remove it and install it on another pc and check the S.M.A.R.T values

abstract kite Aug 24, 2020, 7:16 PM

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or the hdd is bad but I don't think so. Faulty drives usually will make windows hang during loading not at the start
@brisk badger The HDD is probably to blame. When we got it and after he loaded everything on it that he needed it crashed and he had to put everything back on it.

brisk badger Aug 24, 2020, 7:16 PM

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first I would try making a backup of the important files

abstract kite Aug 24, 2020, 7:16 PM

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Its the Barracuda 2 TB

brisk badger Aug 24, 2020, 7:17 PM

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a cool command to repair drives is called chkdsk /f /r (google it to know what it does). It may repair a drive sometimes. Sometimes it may repair it only temporary. Checking SMART values are always good in that case

abstract kite Aug 24, 2020, 7:18 PM

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How can I do that when I cannot get into safe mode or the desktop in general?

brisk badger Aug 24, 2020, 7:18 PM

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dissassemble it and plug it into another (your) computer

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yea technically CD would be better but maybe more advanced

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or windows 10 usb installer also works

abstract kite Aug 24, 2020, 7:19 PM

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Won't that affect my OS too since his has another OS on it?

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His is on his own OS

brisk badger Aug 24, 2020, 7:20 PM

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since both are windows 10 nope. you could install the drive externally if you have like a hdd bay or whatever they are called

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he meant having two disks with two os

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and then booting up

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bios load order tells which OS will be booting

abstract kite Aug 24, 2020, 7:20 PM

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Two different

fleet canopy Aug 24, 2020, 7:21 PM

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Just remove it from one

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Just take out one drive

abstract kite Aug 24, 2020, 7:22 PM

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...?

fleet canopy Aug 24, 2020, 7:22 PM

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Lol

abstract kite Aug 24, 2020, 7:24 PM

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Can he just reinstall windows without formatting his entire HDD?

brisk badger Aug 24, 2020, 7:25 PM

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Now I am confused

abstract kite Aug 24, 2020, 7:25 PM

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Same

brisk badger Aug 24, 2020, 7:26 PM

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He meant his dad's pc. Couldn't he start the Windows 10 Installer and reinstall Windows 10 normally and keep all files / apps?

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I think Windows handles today by itself, no?

abstract kite Aug 24, 2020, 7:27 PM

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There were several on DISK 0 and 1 when we went to that menu already ThinkBlueGreen

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Wouldn't Disk 0 be the main OS and 1 be the backup?

brisk badger Aug 24, 2020, 7:27 PM

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not really used this feature but the Installers sometimes offers a way to reinstall windows and keep apps / files. Not sure what the requirements are tho

abstract kite Aug 24, 2020, 7:29 PM

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.....

brisk badger Aug 24, 2020, 7:29 PM

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I don't windows creates a new partition

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it will instead just rename the old windows folder to windows.old

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i think windows 10 makes it really easy to reinstall the OS BUT it's not clear to me when it will keep the applications and when not

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sometimes it can keep applications, sometimes not

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but basically when start the windows 10 installer it should detect previous OS and ask what to do

abstract kite Aug 24, 2020, 7:33 PM

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Apples

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I cannot get into my Desktop/Safe mode.

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So creatign a new Partition is off the table

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I seen that when we were doing it

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Yeah

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There was Disk 0 (4) and Disk 1 (2)

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Yes.

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Back up space

fleet canopy Aug 24, 2020, 7:37 PM

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If it was installed on both drives, just take one out

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See what happens I guess

brisk badger Aug 24, 2020, 7:37 PM

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@abstract kite made a meme for you. maybe you can relate 😋

📎 4ckgen.jpg

abstract kite Aug 24, 2020, 7:37 PM

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So Disk 0 is not the main drive?

fleet canopy Aug 24, 2020, 7:38 PM

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I’m not really sure as I’ve not seen drives get called numbers sooo

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I’m useless here for that

abstract kite Aug 24, 2020, 7:38 PM

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I'll wait until he turns his PC back on and let you know.

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He has plenty of space on both HDD

vale plover Aug 24, 2020, 7:40 PM

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See that's where the disconnect between windows and Linux is. A lot of the time it just says "disc 0 230gb" for windows, and Linux would say specifically the brand and the size, so it helps a lot. It's weird

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Pretty much. I wonder why they don't do it like Linux. All of the Linux installs I've seen tell you the brand and sometimes even model

brisk badger Aug 24, 2020, 7:42 PM

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ehm drives in linux are displayed even crazier. Assuming we speak about the command line

vale plover Aug 24, 2020, 7:45 PM

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Yes, the command line is kinda fucky sometimes, but I'm talking about using the automated install

brisk badger Aug 24, 2020, 7:46 PM

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apples, no it also works as "repair option", tho the option to keep applications is not always possible. That's what I am unsure of. You can keep files 100%, done that at least 3 times

vale plover Aug 24, 2020, 7:48 PM

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There's an option to keep files, like Wooza said. Other than that, best you can do is get some weird thing (don't remember how to do it) where windows drops an html file with all the applications removed on the desktop next to the recycle bin

brisk badger Aug 24, 2020, 7:49 PM

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it may have been introduced some time ago yea, but it's there for some years. I personally can never "reset" and keep files and applications. Tho I thought because my OS is still a windows 7 upgraded machine

abstract kite Aug 24, 2020, 7:50 PM

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So funny thing

vale plover Aug 24, 2020, 7:50 PM

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Honestly wish I still had win 7

abstract kite Aug 24, 2020, 7:50 PM

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Unplugged the second HDD and the PC came back on to the Desktop with no problems

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But it sounds like the OS HDD is chugging

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You can hear it

vale plover Aug 24, 2020, 7:51 PM

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Never heard of NTLited. Is it an application that just changed the layout of Windows, or is it a modified windows client?

abstract kite Aug 24, 2020, 7:52 PM

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That is pretty lite

vale plover Aug 24, 2020, 7:52 PM

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So you're telling me that I can install win 10 without the fucking candy crush that gets shoved in there?

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I'm gonna have to check that out next time I reinstall

abstract kite Aug 24, 2020, 7:52 PM

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You don't like Candy Crush?!

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So I don't know what to do

vale plover Aug 24, 2020, 7:54 PM

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Did he try formatting or does it have good shit on it still

abstract kite Aug 24, 2020, 7:56 PM

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Should he run a diagnostic on the Drive before turning off and rebooting with the second Drive plugged in?

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So CHKDSK /F with the space?

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It is saying we don't have permission to check it Laughbear

brisk badger Aug 24, 2020, 7:58 PM

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/F includes /R I assume?

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run the cmd as administrator

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why don't do both?

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true

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but it's safer in regards of troubleshooting

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2tb surely will take 3 hours or more

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did not follow the convo but if the drive is plugged in externally then before can check the SMART values?

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to see if drive has severe problems

abstract kite Aug 24, 2020, 8:00 PM

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Shouldn't it be /C for my C Drive?

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It is saying because it is running it cannot check can I restart the computer?

brisk badger Aug 24, 2020, 8:01 PM

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is the faulty drive the C:?

limpid jewel Aug 24, 2020, 8:02 PM

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@fleet canopy Do you know when the Ryzen 4000 series is coming out?
@eternal cairn Q4/20

abstract kite Aug 24, 2020, 8:03 PM

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He is restarting the Computer to check the C: Drive with the main OS

fleet canopy Aug 24, 2020, 8:03 PM

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Yeah it’s with GPU release or 1-2 months after

vapid crypt Aug 24, 2020, 8:03 PM

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Probably October or November

abstract kite Aug 24, 2020, 8:04 PM

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Okay so, it checked and everything was fine. I think its the backup internal HDD

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We're going to plug the D: back in and see if it boots, if it doesn't we have our answer.

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It's just backups I am pretty sure

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Yes

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But he is saying it is shitty

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So whats the best gpu to get with a MSI MPG B550 GAMING PLUS

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grrr

fleet canopy Aug 24, 2020, 8:39 PM

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Sounds like a troll though Kek

abstract kite Aug 24, 2020, 8:39 PM

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I need an upgrade and i spoke about a few

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But I need a recommend

fleet canopy Aug 24, 2020, 8:40 PM

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2080 Super which would be outclassed by a 3070 I guess

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1080p 144Hz - 3060
1440p 144Hz - 3070 3080 or the previous gen variant