pc-build-help-and-tech-talk

[fleet canopy]

Ordering a 2080 Ti when the new GPUs are coming out so soon? Smh I never knew you were like this @abstract kite

[abstract kite]

Wish had an offer I just could not refuse.

Also when will the current GPU's lower in price?

[fleet canopy]

RTX 3000 release

I believe 2070 Super and above may rise in price a bit, but 2060/Super lowers in a bit due to the fact 2070 may be close to 3060 perf idk

Would be disappointing if that’s the case, but at least 3060 is probably a cheaper 2070 Super or better

It’s probably a bit fair due to how the 2070 Super is still a very good card atm

[eternal cairn]

I know those pics are meant to be satirical, but those fans honestly look like Noctuas just from the color. 😆

[fleet canopy]

Tan/brown is a superior color

[eternal cairn]

🤢

[fleet canopy]

Shut

[eternal cairn]

🤮

[fleet canopy]

I would build so many tan/brown to please everyone

[eternal cairn]

God, please no.

[fleet canopy]

Please someone give me more color options like pink

[vapid crypt]

Tan and Brown work well if you're going for that kind of theme

Otherwise it basically doesn't work with anything else

[fleet canopy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCprbFdtT0U

3090 with 24GB VRAM apparently

3090 = 1400$USD
3080 = 800$USD
3070 = 500$USD

The way the guy's throwing the leaks around makes nothing believable at this point though

[vapid crypt]

Again, any and all price leaks are dirt until official announcement

Shouldn't entertain them

[fleet canopy]

Yeah

Went from what it said in beginning to being 300$ more than what it was before, but there's some stuff into it

3090 does replace Titan if that's true

The 24GB VRAM would make sense in that part

Some have said there's going to be two variant of every GPU that releases, for instance the 3080 will have a 20GB and a 10GB variant, which is pretty nice

What I'm wondering about is the 3070 Ti and the 3070

3070/Ti is getting 16 and 8GB variant, 3060 gets 12 and 8GB, then there's apparently a 3050 which honestly I don't think is ever actually going to release considering the only "known" thing is it's GDDR6 and has a GA107 GPU

Nothing on CUDA count, Memory or bandwidth is mentioned

[vapid crypt]

We'll know the 3050 is around the corner when they discontinue the 1660s and 1650s

[fleet canopy]

Did they say they'll discontinue it?

[vapid crypt]

They haven't mentioned doing that yet no

Its just been 2060 Super and above I think

[fleet canopy]

Thought they were keeping the 2060 Super and below

And that 2070 and above is stopping production

[proper wren]

rumors of rtx cards having led screen and turbo button again

[late sorrel]

aight

i’m boutta head out

not again

[fleet canopy]

Hm

What's wrong with it?

[jade ermine]

Thowback to my old system 😄 Sickeflow fans, X58 platform and brand new 1070!

[lilac geyser]

the gfx card i purchased in 2014 (iirc) has 8 gb of vram, is this amount still acceptable today?

nvidia cant seem to make up its mind

[jade ermine]

8gb is acceptable sure

[fleet canopy]

8GB is a pretty good amount

[vapid crypt]

What is it?

The only thing I can think of that would have had 8gb might be a 290X from a board partner. Back then they loved to add extra Vram and go off spec.

Actually maybe they did that with the 780, though maybe they only put 6gb on that maximum

[jade ermine]

Some quadros had 8GB 2014

goomer models did not have that luxury

[vapid crypt]

Oh okay 390, yeah that makes sense

[jade ermine]

good ol' 390

[vapid crypt]

The standard spec was 4gb but board partners added Vram

[jade ermine]

i had 380X for some time as secondary card

[vapid crypt]

8gb 390 would probably compare to a 8gb 570 today I suppose

I'm 100% sure they're sacking the blower cooler

[jade ermine]

They will have 2 slot 2 fan cooler

already teased

[vapid crypt]

They might make a 3 fan model honestly for the big card

[jade ermine]

doubt

[vapid crypt]

Then again those fans do look pretty big

There are solid performing dual fan coolers

[fleet canopy]

The design is so similar to the RTX 2000 design kek

[vapid crypt]

The Sapphire Pulse models, I'm pretty sure they can easily handle 300w cards

[fleet canopy]

I forgot that was what it looked like

[jade ermine]

Also turing does just fine with FE coolers and 2080Ti sucks some serious power

[vapid crypt]

You might remember the Pulse Vega design, where they used a short PCB and had a few inches of extra heatsink

[jade ermine]

@abstract kite I can send you few of those 120mm turbo fans i got a while back

[fleet canopy]

I wonder if there's a triple fan air cooler for CPUs

[vapid crypt]

https://youtu.be/z4grJFjq734?t=599

[fleet canopy]

"Yeet"

[lilac geyser]

it wanted to kill itself

[jade ermine]

https://i.imgur.com/rIVCsHj.mp4 slap few of these on your case and you dont need any fans on your heatsinks at all

[lilac geyser]

https://www.thefpsreview.com/2019/11/12/monsterlabo-is-selling-a-monstrous-7-pound-passive-cpu-gpu-cooler-called-the-heart/

[jade ermine]

Spicy heatsink

I think you can just use that as a case, Just screw components on it

[sick reef]

Interesting.

[vapid crypt]

Perfect dual system set up, use the heatsink for the main build and bolt an ITX board to the hetsink

Actually that's a horrible idea but you know whatever

[jade ermine]

https://www.icegiantcooling.com/ Talking bout heatsinks, These beasts are getting closer to release

[sick reef]

It's interesting, but I'm unsure how it would be mounted, or why they didn't ponder that you should be able to offset the weight.

[jade ermine]

6 yearrrs

Radiators age well so good u got those instead of GPU block or something like that :D

Were you scared it leaks when moving it around or what

ic

lol

[abstract kite]

3

[jade ermine]

I had leak happen twice so far

and i have been doing this for 8 years now

First time faulty cpu block (looking at you EK)
Second time PETG decided to crack for no reason

It's not nice feeling to find a little puddle on bottom of ur case and half the tubes look like this

[fleet canopy]

Ouch

[jade ermine]

some sort of chemical reaction with the fluid i think

made it brittle

thats why i always recommend acrylic over petg

not that fresh this chart but gives you an idea

[vapid crypt]

New Broken Silicon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ttyejLLQc8

[jade ermine]

oh god

[jade ermine]

zen3 5Ghz haha this is like zen2 5Ghz all over again

[vapid crypt]

As I see it, if anything does hit 5Ghz it'll be in boost alone

So a single core for a split second, good ol' marketing

4.7 or 4.8 all core might very well be plausible otherwise

[proper wren]

Room is so hot to the point my 1700x was dying with a hyper212. Had to remove my TG and add a fan in to not let it die

time to invest in top mount aio or bigger heatsink

[vapid crypt]

How hot was it getting?

Thank goodness I have central AC so I don't have to worry about that though

[jade ermine]

🙏

[abstract kite]

Its over

[fleet canopy]

We have straightened Gay

[abstract kite]

The GPU flat lined

There is some hope for the CPU

[jade ermine]

You could say they both
clears throat
Froze to death

ba dum tshhhh

[vapid crypt]

What?

[jade ermine]

.... because so cool temperatures ....

[potent cave]

So I've made a list and I'm tryna find out how/if I could make it cheaper without compromising the power of the desktop. https://www.microcenter.com/site/content/custom-pc-builder.aspx?load=08ab81dc-e678-4938-a9df-98c2dcc963ee

[fleet canopy]

You could look for other cases, see if it makes you think for a good look

3700X with a 2060 seems a bit strange, and I've never seen 90$ 32GB ram

[eternal cairn]

Do you still have to buy Windows 10?

[fleet canopy]

Oh they're 16

Well then

[potent cave]

I'd prefer getting from a reputable seller instead of a grey market key.

[fleet canopy]

Fair enough

[eternal cairn]

You might as well get a 32 GB kit as your RAM.

It'll only be an extra $40 at least.

[fleet canopy]

30$ if you're fine not needing RGB on it

[eternal cairn]

^

[fleet canopy]

I'd also just wait for GPUs to release

[eternal cairn]

Same.

The 2060 should drop to about $199 retail by the time the next cards launch.

[fleet canopy]

We're only a month or less away from new releases

[potent cave]

I want RGB BC if ima spend more than 1k might as well and it'll probably be around thanksgiving before I go to see family in texas thus being able to hit up the Dallas Microcenter.

[eternal cairn]

RGB barf isn't worth the extra money.

[fleet canopy]

I feel like they're kinda ripping you off a lil

[eternal cairn]

Same.

[fleet canopy]

The cooler could be found for 110$

[eternal cairn]

That setup seems a little overpriced.

[fleet canopy]

Unless you went for RGB

The setup's quite wrong

3700X with 2060 :)

[potent cave]

and I may get a little bit here and a little bit there. That sort of thing.

[fleet canopy]

Oh wow the RAM is actually 90$

They were like

more expensive than I remember

[potent cave]

I'm pretty sure ram prices for DDR4 increased a bit.

[fleet canopy]

Mm

Not really

One thing for sure, they must have cranked up 2070 Super prices by a bit

[potent cave]

and I mean. Prices can change a bit in like, 3 months.

[fleet canopy]

Maybe

Just wait for the new GPUs

[potent cave]

not too far up (hopefully) but maybe a bit down...

[fleet canopy]

Even the GPU I have is full outta stock and prices have jacked way too high

From 500$ to 700$+

At this point you're better off just waiting for new GPU

[potent cave]

Yeah, right now personally isnt exactly the best time to buy or even upgrade right now.

[fleet canopy]

I think new CPUs come right around new GPU, so wait for that too

4800X if you're thinking of similar price better performance I guess

Because 4700G is a 3700X with iGPU

Motherboard is cool RAM is cool, case could be found cheaper to 110$ ish, PSU is cool, an RTX 3060/3070 would be good, the m.2 is a bit overpriced, you could grab a Crucial P1 500GB for about 60$, HDD is cool. The CPU cooler is a bit of a ripoff, that could be found for 110$ ish. Their RGB version is 160$

Ignore the case comment, I think I was thinking of something else when I was typing it

[eternal cairn]

The case could definitely be cheaper.

[fleet canopy]

Actually yeah, MSRP is 140$

Well, 150$

Maybe not that different

[eternal cairn]

Also, don't get WD SSDs. They're overpriced.

Same with their HDDs.

[fleet canopy]

WD advertised using a chip that was good, but in reality they had a different chip which performed worse than advertised

[eternal cairn]

LOL

They're like the Nvidia of drives, where they charge a premium.

[fleet canopy]

kek

Or Intel

[restive garnet]

as i recall, that particular case was in their WD red hard drives

where they advertised them as having a controller suitable for NAS

which is the whole point of their red drives

[fleet canopy]

Yeah

[restive garnet]

but they had one that has a high likelihood of failing in raid

[fleet canopy]

I wouldn't trust WD after that tbf

[restive garnet]

im not really a WD fan anyway

personally prefer my seagate drives, even though they are basically the same thing

those exos drives do be lookin fine tho 👌

[eternal cairn]

I'm thinking of getting a Seagate hard drive.

Possibly 8 TBs... in a world where I had money.

[restive garnet]

their 8tb drives are the peak of $/GB

but personally, i prefer their 6tbs

[fleet canopy]

I need more storage : )

[eternal cairn]

Actually, I think their drives only go up to 5200 RPM except the 2 TB version. 😦

[restive garnet]

nope

ive got a pair of 7200rpm 3.5 inch drives in my computer right now

a 6 tb and a 3 tb

[eternal cairn]

Huh, maybe Amazon just doesn't list them.

[restive garnet]

and i had a 1tb 7200 rpm before that

i think they might be having supply issues atm

[fleet canopy]

Amazon is just very fucking vague

[restive garnet]

my local store seems to have low/no stock of most 7200rpm drives

[fleet canopy]

I hate sites like Amazon that do this crap

"gaming gaming gaming monitor gaming gaming no specs gaming gaming"

[restive garnet]

https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/HDDSE3160/Seagate-BarraCuda-Pro-6TB-Desktop-HDD-35in-SATA-25

thats my 6tb drive, out of stock tho

[fleet canopy]

I need too many required things

Like extra storage, 1440p 144hz monitor, new case with new fans

keyboard

CPU cooler

Maybe I'll steal back the DRP4 because I now have AM4

[restive garnet]

hmm, 6tb seagate exos sas drive for cheaper than i paid for my 6tb barracuda

damn tempting

[eternal cairn]

Nope, Amazon only lists 5200 RPM for all other storage capacities.

https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-BarraCuda-Internal-Drive-3-5-Inch/dp/B07D9C7SQH/ref=sr_1_3?crid=35LZNZOFGCX5S

[restive garnet]

as i said before

they definitely exist

[fleet canopy]

Yeah they do

[restive garnet]

but i think they may be having supply issues

[fleet canopy]

Possibly

[restive garnet]

because most stores seem to be sold out of 7200 rpm drives in smaller capacities

[fleet canopy]

What be the Seagate Exos

[restive garnet]

only seem to be able to find 6tb+ 7200 rpms here

[eternal cairn]

Exo?

[fleet canopy]

Seems like an HDD I should avoid at all cost

[eternal cairn]

Why's that?

[restive garnet]

exos is seagates halo enterprise drives

[fleet canopy]

Which would be?

[eternal cairn]

😬

Sounds expensive.

[restive garnet]

high price, high performance

[fleet canopy]

Barracuda cheaper than the Exo by 9$

Same storage

[eternal cairn]

LOL

[restive garnet]

though prices definitely seem to be coming down on them

[fleet canopy]

No wait

5400RPM

Yeah I'd go for the Exos myself for 6TB 7200RPM instead of 6TB 5400RPM

Literally almost same price

[restive garnet]

exos come in sas variants as well

theres a 12k rpm model here for 414

wait, nvm, this ones a 7200

misread it

you can get exos drives up to 24tb iirc

[fleet canopy]

yeah

[eternal cairn]

12,000 RPM?

👀

[fleet canopy]

Yeah

[restive garnet]

not uncommon for sas drives

[fleet canopy]

Though it tends to die sooner than 7200

afaik

[restive garnet]

you can go as high as 15k typically

[eternal cairn]

Oh, then that sucks.

[restive garnet]

but those are generally data center oriented drives

[fleet canopy]

^

[restive garnet]

and they make an absolute racket

[fleet canopy]

7200RPM is all you really need

[eternal cairn]

But I gotta go fast.

[restive garnet]

not really much point going beyond 7200

may as well just get an ssd at that point

[eternal cairn]

Fair enough.

[restive garnet]

personally, im still a fan of cheap bulk storage

but ssds are definitely coming down to viable prices

[eternal cairn]

Who wouldn't be?

I mean, apart from people who have disposable income.

[restive garnet]

most tech journo's who have very little real world understanding

[eternal cairn]

That too.

[restive garnet]

the type who have been screaming that hard drives are dead for the last 4 years

like yeah, sure, but i dont see a 6tb ssd for 400 bucks

cheapest crucial 2tb i can find over here is still like 370

[fleet canopy]

Kinda forgot you're in different currency

[restive garnet]

yeah, makes international comparisons a wee bit hard

[abstract kite]

wee bit like the irish

[restive garnet]

mostly because our prices arent directly taken from exchange rates

its like 1.50nzd to 1usd, but most of our products end up costing 2x the us price

which is the main reason i haven't bought a 2080ti, coz i aint paying over 2000 bucks for one

[fleet canopy]

kek

[abstract kite]

New Zealand is something.

Didn't know it was that bad considering how much GGG charges for the top most supporter pack in PoE

650$ for Cad so damn I could not see someone paying double that, or some of the lower end PC parts we have on a budget.

[restive garnet]

pretty much

the top version of escape from tarkov cost me 300 bucks

[abstract kite]

been waiting to get that but more so waiting for Tarkov to stabilize

[restive garnet]

definitely a good idea

fun game, but its definitely rough around the edges

[abstract kite]

I love the game and idea, but I also need to upgrade for it.

[restive garnet]

and center

the audio is the thing that pisses me off mostly

[abstract kite]

I'm only running a quadcore and a Gigabyte 580

im desperate atm

[restive garnet]

you can have a grenade explode 10m away from you and not hear a thing

yikes

[abstract kite]

It all works tho 26 gigs of ram dont @ me

[restive garnet]

my old mans PC had something similar

22 gigs or something

[abstract kite]

I just neglected to upgrade, my old card died

which was leagues better

[fleet canopy]

Oof

[abstract kite]

Radeon Sapphire 9850

[fleet canopy]

Hm.

A Geforce you have now?

[restive garnet]

i just wanted to live the dream of 12 year old me

[abstract kite]

RX 580

[restive garnet]

so i dumped about 7 grand NZ in to a gaming rig

[abstract kite]

4G

[fleet canopy]

Ouch, a 4GB variant

[abstract kite]

Had no choice

[fleet canopy]

Not really gonna do anything too well except 1080p

[restive garnet]

rip

[abstract kite]

Probably gonna fire wire another.

[fleet canopy]

How good was the last GPU?

[abstract kite]

It was only 150$

[restive garnet]

i dont mind the 580s, but not the 4gb model

[vapid crypt]

I got my 580 gb for $170

It was a pretty good sale

[abstract kite]

nice budget card but they only hard the 4G variant at my CC

Let me get my old card

[restive garnet]

the last one i bought was like 330 AUD

for a strix 8gb model

[vapid crypt]

Used though, in general that shits going for dirt cheap

[abstract kite]

Radeon Sapphire 7870

rong numbers

You'll all know where to check for it better than I

I had two of them

[restive garnet]

i was disgusted at spending 1400 bucks on a 1080ti, and then i saw the price of the 2080tis

[abstract kite]

Truthfully I need to take a trip to CC and look at getting a CPU before anything else.

[fleet canopy]

What made it better than an RX 580 though? Was it generally good with overclocking?

[abstract kite]

It was, yeah.

[fleet canopy]

Ah

[abstract kite]

I had the GHz Edition.

Since my dad made his PC around the time I made mine, we just decided to bling a few things

[restive garnet]

definitely worst part of living in nz, is that we get a much lower range of products, and the ones we do get are way over priced

[abstract kite]

Thankfully my work grants me discounts so ye im good

But a lot of what I wanna get is only carried in the US.

So rip

[restive garnet]

i wish my work did, lmao

i used to get a heavy discount by holding a trade account

[vapid crypt]

I can promise you the 580 is better than the 7870

[restive garnet]

but i cant afford the upkeep on it

not to say im broke, but i literally had to buy 10 grand worth of stuff a year to keep the account

[abstract kite]

Awesome then.

[vapid crypt]

580 is literally an overclocked 480, so its not gonna overclock well as its kind of near the top of how much further it can go

[abstract kite]

But I should upgrade to a RX 5700 probably.

Or double down and get 2 8g 580s

if they can be found, that is

[vapid crypt]

Not a bad idea, new cards are around the corner so that's just gonna lower the prices on that

[restive garnet]

they are available

might have to look overseas tho

[vapid crypt]

What are you doing where you're utilizing crossfire?

[abstract kite]

Just gaming.

[vapid crypt]

Yeah not worth it then

[abstract kite]

I run 2 monitors as well as a TV with it.

[vapid crypt]

Games don't scale with crossfire anymore

[restive garnet]

i dont think its worth doing either of your options tbh

[abstract kite]

Well, I also do other stuff, but nothing really power hungry as gaming or movies.

[vapid crypt]

I mean GPUs have up to 4 outputs already

[abstract kite]

Trying to find them with HDMI

This one only had 1 HDMI slot

[vapid crypt]

Strange mine has 2

[abstract kite]

I make do.

[vapid crypt]

But yeah display port to HDMI works

[restive garnet]

depends on manufacturer

asus like to do 2 dp 2 hdmi

gigabyte likes to do 3 hdmi 1 dvi for their lower end cards

[abstract kite]

Mine has 3 DVI and 1 HDMI

Really confused me but I had no choice.

But this card is nice and I really enjoy it.

[vapid crypt]

3 dvi and one hdmi? Uh I've never seen a card like that

[restive garnet]

neither

[vapid crypt]

Are you sure that's an RX 580?

[abstract kite]

Lets see if I am correct and ill bring up the specs

90%

Gimmy sec

[restive garnet]

personally, i quite like the gigabyte 1050ti

coz 3 hdmi ports

and a capable entry level 1080p gpu

makes it really good for a budget multi monitor setup

[vapid crypt]

Eh I guess, its more like 900p now probably

[restive garnet]

in gaming, probably

i used one for my old ladies machine

[abstract kite]

im 10 off

570

1:30 am pardon me please.

[vapid crypt]

Oh its an RX 570

[abstract kite]

Ye that's it.

[vapid crypt]

In that case 4gb is a bit more justified

[restive garnet]

my old lady is a legal accountant, so she loves multi monitor for productivity

[abstract kite]

I have multi monitor for EVE online

[vapid crypt]

There's an 8gb version of the 570, but they usually cost almost the same as the 580 8gb

[abstract kite]

TV to watch the market and stocks and 2 for mining and scanning/defending myself.

[restive garnet]

so it made sense to get a cheap card with 3 hdmi outputs

[abstract kite]

I'd rather get 2 580's or just 1 vs getting a 8gb 570

Direct upgrade is always preferable to just patch upgrade

Im just glad my CPU is still kicking

[restive garnet]

given how cheap 580s are, i dont think you really should go below that

[abstract kite]

Its an Intelcore i5-4460

[restive garnet]

unless you dont really care about gaming performance

[abstract kite]

I grabbed this card the same day my card died because thats all I had

[vapid crypt]

Yeah don't bother with crossfire

[abstract kite]

didnt really have a choice to sit down and really think.

[vapid crypt]

Its just not relevant, most games now even if you're using crossfire; the second card will do nothing

[abstract kite]

Oh well then.

going to look into building a whole new up to date rig for myself since this one is still using junk from 2015

Besides the powerpack eh

[restive garnet]

if its a decent psu, should last you for at least another 5 years

[vapid crypt]

Now's a good time for upgrading with all the new hardware coming in the next quarter

[restive garnet]

i think the only reason i might update my psu is if those new cards chew up another 75w or so

[abstract kite]

Yeah that's what I've been seeing when poking in here.

Looks like a good time to get the just under top of the line shit that will hit sale with the new stuffs

Or at least the last better stuff

[restive garnet]

2070 supers are still fantastic cards

if they get a price drop, its an easy pick up

[abstract kite]

500$ at bestbuy atm

[restive garnet]

and, semi unpopular opinion, probably better to avoid amd cards, at least till RDNA2

[abstract kite]

Not up to date on my PC shit since 2009.

After 2009 I gave up keeping up to date with the current trends

[restive garnet]

i personally think that the premium on nvidia cards is worth it for the working drivers alone

but if you are on a firm budget, the current amd cards do make some amount of sense

[vapid crypt]

The drivers are working fine now, probably since 5 months ago

[restive garnet]

idk, i still have heaps of black screen issues

[abstract kite]

Nope, job pays well it's just at the time I was fucked so, now I have 500$ going into my build every 2 weeks

So I am trying to get something decent.

Preferably something to carry me another 9+ years

[restive garnet]

i dont know if you will get 9+ years out of anything atm

[abstract kite]

Big sad

Well, 6+

Maybe more

[restive garnet]

its really hard to say

[vapid crypt]

6 years is a stretch, but I mean sure

[abstract kite]

I just need something that isnt patch work, for once.

[restive garnet]

hardware is getting better at a rate we havent really seen before

[abstract kite]

Thats true.

[vapid crypt]

As long as the console generation lasts

[abstract kite]

mine sin and buy a gaming laptop

[restive garnet]

it really depends on whether programs follow the same usage

[vapid crypt]

I would sooner buy the next Xbox than a gaming laptop

[abstract kite]

Shame I own a PS4 now.

[restive garnet]

if they require power proportionate to what is being offered at the time, it might end up being that the massive increases play against you

[abstract kite]

Guess I should build a rig and hope for the best

[restive garnet]

basically

[abstract kite]

Or, if I upgrade this, I need a new motherboard CPU and GPU

[restive garnet]

i think it pays to build with the expectation that it will last, but balance it around upgradability

[abstract kite]

current board is a Z97m Gaming

Ms-7919

[vapid crypt]

A Great CPU platform will easily outlast the graphics card

[abstract kite]

Any recommends going forward?

[vapid crypt]

Shit what is that Haswell?

[abstract kite]

MSI

[vapid crypt]

I mean the CPU gen

[abstract kite]

goodness idk

[vapid crypt]

z97 I think that's Haswell

[restive garnet]

yeah

[abstract kite]

Yeah

[restive garnet]

haswell, with bios upgradability for broadwell

[abstract kite]

Boards been nice to me, but, feels aged.

[restive garnet]

actually, to correct myself, z97 had broadwell support out of the box

[vapid crypt]

Basically AMD is the way to go for CPUs as of late

[abstract kite]

What one should I get with this board, if I dont get a new one?

[vapid crypt]

What do you have now?

[restive garnet]

i like amd cpus atm, but i feel like im gunna wait another generation or two before i get a cpu from them for my main rig

they are maturing really well, and im excited to see whats in store for 4th and 5th gen

[abstract kite]

CPU is an Intel i5 4460, MSI z97m Gaming, 570 gpu as you know, 900watt power pack cus fuck it I slipped

[vapid crypt]

Oh okay, well you could get a Devil's Canyon i7

[abstract kite]

Oh and a soundcard, BlasterX AE-5 Plus.

Cus I like that.

[restive garnet]

i cant really recommend any amd cpu past the 3700x unless you are an absolute power user

[abstract kite]

lets see if that i7 is at CC

[restive garnet]

i do love that 3950x, but i cant imagine needing 16 cores

i cant even imagine needing 12

[vapid crypt]

I doubt you'll find it retail, that's a used market option for sure

[abstract kite]

AMD Ryzen 7 3700X?

[restive garnet]

yeah

[abstract kite]

Sale for 300

[vapid crypt]

If you go the Ryzen route, there's a lot of great B550 boards which will get guaranteed support for the next gen processors

[abstract kite]

Nice prices, too.

[restive garnet]

definitely true, but im assuming you are going to have a decent budget, so id almost be tempted by a decent x570

[abstract kite]

https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=26_1832_1833&item_id=169292

This looks promising.

Im very new with new generation tech so, not sure what I'm looking for in regards to green and red lights.

[vapid crypt]

That didn't link me to the product, put me on the main page

[restive garnet]

click it again

i had the same thing happen

first time asks you for language preference, and then redirects you to main page

second time directs you to the product page

[vapid crypt]

Okay, check out the Gaming Plus from MSI

Its the better deal I think

[abstract kite]

https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=26_1832_1833&item_id=169631

This one, I guess you mean.

[restive garnet]

personally, i won't recommend MSI

[abstract kite]

reason?

[restive garnet]

ethical

they have some nice products in both the low and high end markets

but they tend to get quite shitty when people call them out on poor decisions

[abstract kite]

Ahhhh.

[vapid crypt]

I mean their Marketers are something else

Thin skinned

[abstract kite]

So this MSI MPG B550 is a good get, I suppose. Given it falls in line with anything I need.

I guess when it comes to CPU I best ask them.

[vapid crypt]

Yeah it has excellent power delivery for the CPU

[abstract kite]

32$ for 3 years

wow

ok

[vapid crypt]

If you can find it the A-pro is a bit cheaper and uses the same VRM

Just lacks the RGB options if that's something you wanted

[abstract kite]

hopefully it fits my case

[vapid crypt]

Oh uh yeah didn't really think of that huh

[restive garnet]

i think the thing that gets me the most about msi, is their laptop that had the ventilation holes and fans in different spots

[abstract kite]

KEK

[vapid crypt]

What case do you have?

[restive garnet]

hard high performance parts, and next to no airflow

[vapid crypt]

I mean considering that you were using crossfire at one point it should be fine

[restive garnet]

and they gave so much shit to any reviewer that pointed out that it shouldnt be running at 90+ degrees

[abstract kite]

https://pangoly.com/en/review/thermaltake-commander-ms-i-snow-edition

dont @ me the black one looked eh

Got this back in the day, dont judge please

[vapid crypt]

Good ol' Thermaltake

[restive garnet]

i mean

in typical thermaltake fashion

at first glance it looks really cool

[vapid crypt]

If it was the Level 10 I would be judging you hard

[abstract kite]

Its lackin in fans

[restive garnet]

but i'm willing to bet that its a hunk of junk to use

[fleet canopy]

Hm.

[vapid crypt]

But its not The Level 10 so its fine

[fleet canopy]

I mean

[abstract kite]

This one is just neat and fits nicely on my desk.

[fleet canopy]

It looks alright

[abstract kite]

If it fits this motherboard mmmm

I will be getting it

[fleet canopy]

Looks a bit like a fridge from Star Wars

[abstract kite]

ye

its my snowtrooper pc

dont @ me

[fleet canopy]

It's cool

[vapid crypt]

That's a fridge from Star Wars

[abstract kite]

Black one looks like shit tbh

Like a smol server

[fleet canopy]

Looks like it yeah, but I like it

[abstract kite]

Guy at an old mom and pop shop said they were okay so.

never moved on since

[restive garnet]

if im reading that review you linked correctly

a singular 120mm fan on each panel

what the fuck

[abstract kite]

I have one fan on the back.

Das it

Ports tho, I think.

[vapid crypt]

Get some fans

[abstract kite]

Ill get some fans

Any good ones that go with this case?

[vapid crypt]

By any chance are you using the stock cooler for the CPU?

[abstract kite]

Ye

[vapid crypt]

Okay, I mean at this point I suppose it doesn't matter

[restive garnet]

probably wouldnt hurt to get a decent aftermarket cooler for your next cpu

ryzen have decent coolers out of the box

[abstract kite]

Ill see what canada computers has

[vapid crypt]

The Ryzen stock coolers are decent, specifically their higher end one

[abstract kite]

Mine has a lot of aftermarket shit in the back

I used to work there as a part timer so i just ask

hopefully they got something nice, i never had a reason to ask before

[restive garnet]

i do like those wraith coolers, but aftermarket you can get much better

[vapid crypt]

I can't find information for cpu clearance on that case

[abstract kite]

https://www.kitguru.net/components/cases/steve-ruxton/thermaltake-commander-ms-i-snow-edition/

CPU cooler height limitation: 170mm
VGA length limitation: 320mm

[vapid crypt]

Okay so its clear for pretty big coolers then

[abstract kite]

Oh, nice.

[vapid crypt]

They tend to top out around 168mm

162 - 165 average

[abstract kite]

Alright, I'll ask when I'm there about getting some coolers.

So far this looks like it's well within budget for upgrades

[vapid crypt]

Oh you'll need new RAM

[abstract kite]

A shame.

[vapid crypt]

Yeah DDR4

[abstract kite]

So, AMD Ryzen 7 3700X, MSI MPG B550 GAMING PLUS

[vapid crypt]

RAM has been going down though

[abstract kite]

It has, a lot, when I got this ram it was rather cheap.

[fleet canopy]

I think the Shadow Rock 3 will not fit in a 170mm

It's taller than a DRP4 by a small amount

[abstract kite]

CORSAIR Vengeance RGB PRO 16GB

DDR4

125$

I guess ill grab 2

[vapid crypt]

Hang on what's the speed?

[abstract kite]

Less you have some better options to min max.

3000MHz

[fleet canopy]

RGB must be more pricy

By a good amount

[vapid crypt]

Okay look for something less flashy, and find a 3600 C16 kit

[fleet canopy]

Or a 3200MHz CAS16 and OC it

[vapid crypt]

Well 3200 C14, that's usually Samsung

[fleet canopy]

Although you can get a 3GHz CAS16 and OC it to 3600MHz CAS16, no?

[vapid crypt]

But its all the same

[abstract kite]

G.SKILL Flare X Series 16GB

3200MHz goes for 140

[vapid crypt]

Yeah that's Samsung B-die top tier memory

Overclocks really well

[abstract kite]

Alright I can swing that.

[vapid crypt]

There's a G.skill Ripjaws V kit that might offer better value

[fleet canopy]

^

Ripjaws are the cheapest I've seen

[vapid crypt]

3600 C16 Ripjaws V

[abstract kite]

Oh I have one of those upstairs

bought one by mistake

Top kekw

[fleet canopy]

Was 110$ for a 32GB 3200MHz CAS16 unlike the others around 130-160$

Speed might be low, no?

[vapid crypt]

Wait you bought something by mistake and didn't return it

[abstract kite]

Fuck no, its computer parts

I'll eventually need it

Lo and behold.

[fleet canopy]

k e k

What's the speed on it?

[vapid crypt]

Amazing

[abstract kite]

The man with a gun under his pillow is an idiot every day but one

3600

[vapid crypt]

Wow the exact kit of memory

[abstract kite]

they got 1 in stock so

i can get 4

KEKW

[vapid crypt]

16gb?

[abstract kite]

Yup

I had the pair

32 bb

[fleet canopy]

16GB, yeah?

[vapid crypt]

Well fair enough

[fleet canopy]

Unless you want 32GB, guess it doesn't really matter

[vapid crypt]

Worth having 32gb soon enough

[fleet canopy]

Just check the speed and latency

[abstract kite]

Get it while its cheap

[vapid crypt]

I'm gonna double up on my kit at some point

[abstract kite]

CL16

[fleet canopy]

I just need a 144hz lol

On 1440p

[vapid crypt]

Could get it for $65

Might order than soon actually, sale ends Monday

[fleet canopy]

But I also need to get a better case, fans, CPU cooler cause meh unless I can ask to nab the DRP4 back which would be a better option really

[abstract kite]

I should look into a better case

[vapid crypt]

I only need to get a new case if I decide I need a big cooler

[abstract kite]

But I love my snowtrooper

[brisk badger]

bench tables, best pc cases 😋

[abstract kite]

im gonna just drill my parts into the wall

fuck it

[fleet canopy]

I mean, you could do a bit of modding with another case to match the aesthetic-

[abstract kite]

i aint playin no more.

No case gang.

[fleet canopy]

l e l

[vapid crypt]

I did that for a few weeks when Amazon couldn't deliver the case I ordered for whatever reason

[abstract kite]

Naked pc's only now

post naked pcs

[brisk badger]

*mods asleep

[abstract kite]

exactly, lets go

D0c's asleep post cursed cases

[fleet canopy]

Mm

A cursed PC case

[timber lotus]

tasty

[vapid crypt]

Timmy Joe did an entire video on that

[fleet canopy]

Couple cursed

[timber lotus]

even tastier

[abstract kite]

520 watts so you know his shit be fire

[fleet canopy]

I wanted to go with the "Literally in a fucking desert"

[abstract kite]

alright so

[timber lotus]

cat powered pc?

[abstract kite]

i think i win.

this is fucking magical.

[vapid crypt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjjvTSObx4M

This entire video

[bright shard]

is that cat image a shop?

[fleet canopy]

The toilet case

[bright shard]

i think it is

[abstract kite]

You know what i wanna do

when i win money

I wanna look at every year of PC from 1997 to 2018

and build a PC to match the best specs of that year

[fleet canopy]

That looks like they cut off the head of a real cat and put it on a fake toy fluffy body

[abstract kite]

And just have a Pc for every year that has the best to date stats for that year

[vapid crypt]

I mean Linus did literally that

[abstract kite]

Im gonna do that shit

That sounds like a fun waste of money.

[fleet canopy]

Or

[vapid crypt]

And by Linus I mean Linus Media Group

[fleet canopy]

Make custom cases

[abstract kite]

I think it would just be cool

Little slice of history in my house

[fleet canopy]

kek

[abstract kite]

Weird 3d art

cus fucking

old gpu 3d art on the cards

[fleet canopy]

Might be a bit difficult getting those kind of parts

[abstract kite]

you fucking remember

Gotta dig and look for a lot, I'm sure many are discontinued so long they're just not there anymore.

[fleet canopy]

I know various GPUs had some cool shit to their shroud

[abstract kite]

Might take some traveling

https://www.theverge.com/2015/9/9/9274915/graphics-card-boxes-weird-art

[fleet canopy]

The Verge

[abstract kite]

I still have this box somewhere.

Shit you the fuck not

[fleet canopy]

Would be cool continuing that

Otherwise, I kind of like some of the box designs tbf

[abstract kite]

hey hey people
sseth here.

[fleet canopy]

Like the now discontinued 9th gen 9900K stupidfuck box

[abstract kite]

Hello id like to play doom and heretic

and maybe hexen in 16bit

thank you.

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/voodoo5-5500-pci.c3532

😢 i miss you

[fleet canopy]

Recommended Gaming Resolutions:

640x480 1280x720 1366x768 1600x900 1920x1080 2560x1440 3840x2160

3840x2160

4K?

[abstract kite]

Memory Size
32 MB

[fleet canopy]

Wait I see what it is now

[abstract kite]

yes.

[fleet canopy]

It's red for it won't work :)

[abstract kite]

: )

[fleet canopy]

What's it perform on?

The new 480x720?

[abstract kite]

Nope.

[fleet canopy]

Too big, fuck

[abstract kite]

16bit

think doom 1

heretic, hexen

[fleet canopy]

So just

[abstract kite]

blood

dos games

this was a 90's card.

[fleet canopy]

More like the 90s

Yeh

[abstract kite]

This card came out around the tail end of the 90's if I recall.

[fleet canopy]

Says 2000

[abstract kite]

was the bench mark before AMD really made its claim

Yup

Tail end of the 90's

[fleet canopy]

"90s GPUs"

[abstract kite]

At that year GeForce 256

And shit got real

[fleet canopy]

You could even have SLI back then

[abstract kite]

This was also the debut of the Radeon

The entire line, I think.

let me check

ATI Radeon 64MB DDR VIVO AGP

Yup there she is.

64MB DDR SDRAM (Hyundai-5.5)

BUY THE HYUNDAI

[fleet canopy]

Hyundai

[abstract kite]

This was the funniest time

[fleet canopy]

"Hey son, I bought you a Hyundai for your 18th birthday"

[abstract kite]

https://www.hardwarezone.com.sg/articles/view.php?cid=3&id=121

At the time, this thing made waves.

This was the start of a real wacky age of GPUs

[brisk badger]

the best times where when ATI and NVIDIA made "LE" and "SE" versions, which were gpu's that missed some shade units but with some software mods you could enable them and save a lot of money

[abstract kite]

We were really starting to push shit after Heretic and hexen.

3d rendering was getting big and morrowind was just around the corner

may 1 2002 it came out

With that we saw shit like Jedi knight outcast, Hit man 2 assassins and Blacklist

to the homies who fall with me, Neverwinter nights was release, trailing the 97 baldurs gate

CPUs got wild too

I think it was the 440BX chipset.

[fleet canopy]

I did remember at one point AMD would keep making GPUs that had way higher boost clocks, but they were as hot as the damned sun

[abstract kite]

Kicked Pentium II/III and Apollo pro Plus didnt get a chance to market itself

[fleet canopy]

Then stopped doing it, which the next GPU was 1/2 the performance but way cooler

Which is a nice change in the history of GPUs

[abstract kite]

AMD's Athlon.

Slot A motherboards bb

[brisk badger]

boost clocks did not really exist back then

[abstract kite]

Shit show

[fleet canopy]

I imagine overclocking wasn't a thing until some dude attempted to manually do it

[abstract kite]

AMD took stuff my storm in the early 2000s and havent really lost it since

I think around 2009 they slowed down but the steady pace between them and everyone else hasn't really spread.

[fleet canopy]

They were kinda lacking a bit previously before Ryzen

[brisk badger]

overclocking was a thing. Especially with soldering

[abstract kite]

Everyone seems to be catching up.

[fleet canopy]

Yeah

Just not for GPUs then ig

[abstract kite]

https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/760k

[fleet canopy]

32nm

[brisk badger]

DISGUSTING

[abstract kite]

SHES OLD

BUT SHE DID THE TRICK

ONCE UPON A TIME SHE WAS QUEEN

[brisk badger]

i don't think so, that was the time intel was crushing on amd

[abstract kite]

Not for another year

2001-2002 is when Intel made a comeback.

[brisk badger]

this cpu was released in 2013.

[abstract kite]

Intel flopped in 2001 with its release of the i820 chipset

linke the wrong one, then.

[brisk badger]

i hoipe so 😋

[abstract kite]

I'll need to dig for the specs on that old fuck then, gay.

[brisk badger]

show me your sempron

[abstract kite]

But yeah in 2000 they recalled a lot of i820 chipsets

so 2000 was not their year for sure

AH HA

https://www.cpu-upgrade.com/CPUs/AMD/Athlon_II_X4/640.html

There she is.

[fleet canopy]

Gay.

That's me.

[abstract kite]

Wait not

[brisk badger]

my first real DYI yourself pc was with the AMD X2 3800

[abstract kite]

Fucking bastard

This is the 2010

I WILL FIND YOU

[fleet canopy]

L o l

Just type in "AMD CPUs 2001"

[abstract kite]

Athlon re-release

fuckin me right up bois

[fleet canopy]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_microprocessors

[abstract kite]

I literally looked up AMD 640 chipset

to try and find a proper review page.

And my ass is getting the re-release

AMD is covering up its fuckups

[fleet canopy]

l ol

AMD when AMD was Intel

[abstract kite]

it only gets worse

[fleet canopy]

Now Intel is AMD when AMD was AMD in AMD time

[abstract kite]

i hate this timeline

[fleet canopy]

They always do re releases

[brisk badger]

🤯

[fleet canopy]

The timeline on Wiki seems so fucked

But it's got years

So it works a bit

And names

[brisk badger]

it's also worth mentioning that AMD developed x86-64 (64bit CPU's). Intel's version was way too complicated and could not run "legacy applications"

[abstract kite]

Mmmm HOT-603

Problem is I can't find the original specs on the proper 760. Shame.

Big sad

[brisk badger]

if it was in 2001 then it was either the K6 or the K7 type

[abstract kite]

2000 was the Celeron

if i recall.

[brisk badger]

introduced? maybe, I don't really remember

[abstract kite]

Yeah 2000 the Celeron was introduced and did great till 2003, I think.

Mmm, think K7, you're right.

That was the Athlon Slot-A wars

Opteron was the debut to the K8, I think. 2003 if i recall.

havent had to think of this shit in a minute.

[restive garnet]

lmfao

[abstract kite]

12 fans with 0 airflow

Bro I also put my fans in a fucking pentagram how did they know?

[brisk badger]

Lol I watched the video was amusing.

On another note; Anyone is experienced with monitor EDID ? I think I destroyed the EDID of my monitor when I tried 'overclocking'. I somehow want to recover/reset the EDID file or create a new one with the same values (and no I did not made a backup)

[abstract kite]

I recall an article on it I was reading a year ago.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/display/overriding-monitor-edids

There used to be a process for recovering an unmodified EDID

I think you should be able to factory reset it, I hope.

[brisk badger]

thanks for the tip. I have to find somehow an .inf file for my monitor because the one that is present now is modified and probably corrupted

lessons learnt overclocking monitors; Don't go too crazy with the hertz lol /o\

[brisk badger]

tried it on my secondary 60hz monitor out of curiosity 😦

[fleet canopy]

I mean, it's better doing it on a secondary that's possibly more cheaper than the main one kek

[brisk badger]

well it's recoverable, just the 'firmware' inside the monitor gone bad. I can still use, but only the 1920x1080 resolution and sometimes when I boot it starts as 640x480p 😩

[narrow moon]

Just make money and get a better monitor, overclocking these days is almost dead.

heh

[brisk badger]

it's a secondary monitor, 60hz is perfectly fine. it's more the curiosity that made me want to do it

if I would have 60 or 70hz i doubt i would see any difference

[narrow moon]

Ah, for the purposes of science.

SUBARASHII INTENSIFIES

[fleet canopy]

Considering you've seen 144Hz already

You might notice a difference with 60 to 70-76

[narrow moon]

I've been using 144Hz now for... off I dunno a few years now. Maybe 5-6.

I struggle to go back to 60Hz when I'm playing fast-paced games.

[brisk badger]

yea my primary is 144 and ofc there is difference. no one can go back to 60hz once using 144 or more :p

it's such a noticeable difference for the eye once they are used to 144hz

[fiery panther]

I went from 30 to 60

[narrow moon]

But honestly 60 or 144 or even 244 makes no bloody difference if you're just using a computer to browse, work, watch movies etc. You're not going to really get your money's worth, even animators generally work at between 24-30 frames. Only really dedicated youtubers for the most part go up any higher than that.

[fiery panther]

and now my pc can't handle siege above 50 for some reason

[narrow moon]

Wha?

[fiery panther]

Though it had over 100 in the beginning

Idek

[fleet canopy]

Probably the updates?

[fiery panther]

It's broken

Nah

Because it's running solid 40 to 50 depending on the map

[narrow moon]

You're talking about Hertz yes?

[fleet canopy]

Needs driver updates?

[fiery panther]

fps

Nope

Had several updates

[fleet canopy]

Or you have a PC that's kind of showing its age?

[fiery panther]

It's not even half a year old

[fleet canopy]

Hm.

[fiery panther]

Doubt it's showing age

Though I should mention, steam uses a SHITload of cpu

[narrow moon]

It's nothing to do with age if you suddenly have a dive in FPS.

[fiery panther]

between 20 to 50

It's not a sudden dive, it just dropped to that and never came up

[jade ermine]

how it uses so much

[fleet canopy]

Discord takes more CPU than Steam

[fiery panther]

Not for me

[fleet canopy]

Wack

[fiery panther]

Steam uses more for me

Way more

[fleet canopy]

How much more?

[jade ermine]

When you have something downloading you get more cpu usage

but during gameplay it should not be an issue

[fleet canopy]

Yeah maybe you have downloading enabled while you play

[jade ermine]

unless you are rocking core 2 duo or someshit lol

[fleet canopy]

^

Steam never took more CPU than Discord

And if it ever did, that should be from downloading

[narrow moon]

Out of curiosity, what are your basic specs?

[fiery panther]

ryzen 3 3200g and radeon RX590

2x 8gb 3200mhz ddr4

steam's installed in a 500gb m.2

[fleet canopy]

An APU with a dedicated GPU, hm

Unless they just we're pretty cheap

[fiery panther]

The CPU was pretty cheap compared to the GPU

But it's still a good cpu

also

[fleet canopy]

Fair enough

[lilac geyser]

dual gpus, sick

[fiery panther]

My 12 serum instances ask less than steam

[fleet canopy]

Dual GPU gaming coming back when?

[fleet canopy]

Holy fuck

[fiery panther]

And 12 instances of serum is heavy

[fleet canopy]

You never told me how much it took up

What the fuck is happening on Steam

[fiery panther]

Idek

[fleet canopy]

Is there a download?

No it doesn't seem to be

[lilac geyser]

steam has had a problem recently with high cpu usage

[fiery panther]

It's not even on

[fleet canopy]

Steam doesn't even take up more than 0.1% for me

[fleet canopy]

Have you shut down the program and restarted it?

[fiery panther]

like a couple of times

I've been looking for answers for a while

Haven't found anything yet

Discord doesn't use shit

[narrow moon]

@fiery panther Out of curiosity, can you go into Big Picture mode and exit and see if it does anything?

[fiery panther]

Hmm

Can try

similar results

still around 40

Even with small mode active

[narrow moon]

Can you check your bandwidth processes in Task manager?

See if you find anything unusual.

One thing I can suggest to by-pass any Windows update issues is running steam in compatability mode. Set it to run as if you were on Windows 8.

Otherwise, I think you're going to be spending a while resetting drivers, settings and clearing dmp files and your cache.

Steam support can probably help you better.

[fiery panther]

Where can i find that

I'm stupid lol

[eternal cairn]

Wait, what's the problem? High CPU usage?

[fiery panther]

no

Massive CPU usage

steam uses up to 50%

though it's not active

[eternal cairn]

Did you recently load up a game through Steam and close it?

[narrow moon]

This isn't new, this is a commonly re-occuring bug. Been around for a couple years at least.

[fiery panther]

No

it's always like that

last time I opened a game was like an hour ago

[eternal cairn]

What version is your Steam?

[narrow moon]

In your task manager, sort it by Network usage.

[fiery panther]

newest

Nothing weird

Highest I get is 0.1 mbps

[fleet canopy]

Disable Steam overlay maybe

[fiery panther]

Doubt that helps when steam is not even opened

[narrow moon]

As for setting steam to compatability mode, navigate to your executable and right-click and go to properties. In there you'll have a "Compatability" tab. Click on and tick the "Run this program in compatability mode for:" and select windows 8. Hit apply and re-launch steam.

[eternal cairn]

Is GPU acceleration enabled?

[fiery panther]

Idk

[fleet canopy]

This is a CPU high load though

Why would GPU acceleration affect it

[fiery panther]

I had 54% on steam alone just now

[eternal cairn]

Because things that aren't being used by the GPU in a program like Steam are being used by the CPU.

Same with rendering (on some specific occasions).

[fleet canopy]

There's another fix which repairs the bootstrapper

You press Win key + r and paste this in "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\bin\SteamService.exe" /repair

[fiery panther]

As for setting steam to compatability mode, navigate to your executable and right-click and go to properties. In there you'll have a "Compatability" tab. Click on and tick the "Run this program in compatability mode for:" and select windows 8. Hit apply and re-launch steam.
@narrow moon doing that rn

Peaking a bit every now and then

But mainly when loading/unloading

thank you

nvm

[narrow moon]

Still at 33%?

[fiery panther]

When hovering my mouse over 'what's new' it goes to 40% again

[fleet canopy]

You press Win key + r and paste this in "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\bin\SteamService.exe" /repair
This still is an option to try at least

[jade ermine]

[lilac geyser]

how about these options

you could turn on low performance mode in the library tab

[brisk badger]

you can expand the taskmanager view to see the subprocess of steam.exe

there is a small icon left to the icon

it probably is nothing tho, i only have one

yea

personally, I would do chkdsk /f /r. maybe steam or fruityloops try to write on a bad sector and it's dying

also sfc /scannow in cmd is always good to check your OS for issues

true. but anyone is willing to format 😕

i have many changes made, to the OS, it would break my heart to format :/

[fiery panther]

it's doing normal now

thanks to minia

[brisk badger]

nice app!

and what was the solution BASS

[fiery panther]

and what was the solution BASS
@brisk badger Running in compatibility through windows 8

[brisk badger]

that sounds like a bandaid 😋

i meant Bass solution

[fiery panther]

Not tested yet