#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk | GTFO | Page 132

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 8:11 PM

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The ultra ultra wide for 300$

jade ermine Jul 15, 2020, 8:12 PM

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i got that 34'' acer for 499€

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 8:13 PM

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It's 27"*

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: )

jade ermine Jul 15, 2020, 8:13 PM

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27'' one is around 350€ here

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 8:14 PM

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LG doesn't have the curve but meh

jade ermine Jul 15, 2020, 8:14 PM

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its meme for non ultrawide monitor anyway

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 8:14 PM

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lel

proper wren Jul 15, 2020, 8:23 PM

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so my rtx 2070 works perfectly fine on the i7 4770

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I'm starting to think that I should do a full reformat on the computer

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2070 has driver issues on the 1700x

vapid crypt Jul 15, 2020, 8:28 PM

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Uh what?

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Wait what driver issues, the cpu shouldn't effect drivers in anyway. Drivers are pretty much a software thing, maybe it isn't a driver issue then?

proper wren Jul 15, 2020, 8:30 PM

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no it is driver issue

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GTFO, Dota 2, Titan Fall2, and DRG for testing

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 8:31 PM

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Maybe you have a driver that you don't own it for

proper wren Jul 15, 2020, 8:31 PM

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all driver crashes

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hmmm

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All drivers up to date

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mobo, cpu, gpu

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Is strix 2070

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reee

vapid crypt Jul 15, 2020, 8:32 PM

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Chipset drivers?

proper wren Jul 15, 2020, 8:33 PM

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yes base window drivers dont work either

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I'm just gonna do a clean format

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bitchwat I test and build computers for living too

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Time to save all my school stuff RunRight

brisk badger Jul 15, 2020, 8:37 PM

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already checked the windows event viewer?

proper wren Jul 15, 2020, 8:42 PM

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yesyesyes

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brb gonna swap the gpu back in the ryzen

brisk badger Jul 15, 2020, 8:43 PM

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and what is the error? There should be at least an event in the category "error" or "warning" if applications are crashing

abstract kite Jul 15, 2020, 9:41 PM

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My PC build guys

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Jkjk

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 9:43 PM

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Cool

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsCgG7DvDOk

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I feel like I went through this already

grizzled walrus Jul 15, 2020, 10:35 PM

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hi all, i'm pickles. I've been playing GTFO for a few weeks now, but an issue has cropped up. My pc resets when I drop into a map.

vapid crypt Jul 15, 2020, 10:36 PM

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#gtfo-technical-support

grizzled walrus Jul 15, 2020, 10:38 PM

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I'll inquire there, then

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 11:49 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fG6PB16gm78 Different core count Ryzen CPUs compared

proper wren Jul 16, 2020, 12:22 AM

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welp I fixed the crashing :3

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no need to RMA

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for now

fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 1:17 AM

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Any way I can find what die my RAM uses?

vapid crypt Jul 16, 2020, 1:39 AM

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Yes

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There's this program called Thaiphoon Burner that lets you do that

fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 1:40 AM

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And it's apparently not safe

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Hm

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Literally just because it's not commonly downloaded lel

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Well how would I use it?

terse remnant Jul 16, 2020, 1:44 AM

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whats the best laptop cooler on amazon

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my computer overheats no matter what

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i changed the damn paste and cleaned it out

vapid crypt Jul 16, 2020, 1:45 AM

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If you have the program open

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Just click on read, and then either dimm

terse remnant Jul 16, 2020, 1:45 AM

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it hits 90 when playing sea of thieves on 720p!

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and thermal throttles

fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 1:48 AM

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Well I have the DRAM calculator open already

vapid crypt Jul 16, 2020, 1:49 AM

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fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 1:49 AM

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Ah, so a samsung b die

vapid crypt Jul 16, 2020, 1:49 AM

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Oh with the dram calculator, you can actually save a file using Thaiphoon and have the calculator read it

fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 1:49 AM

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Oh?

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How would I do that

vapid crypt Jul 16, 2020, 1:50 AM

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Click on report

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Then export > complete HTML report

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Then after that in the calculator click on import XMP

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And you would load that file generated by Thaiphoon

fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 1:52 AM

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How?

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Can't really see any option to load a file onto the DRAM calc

vapid crypt Jul 16, 2020, 1:52 AM

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What version is it?

fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 1:52 AM

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1.7.3

vapid crypt Jul 16, 2020, 1:53 AM

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fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 1:54 AM

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Oh boy, forgetting to click nanoseconds : )

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Hm, seems the file gets fucked up

fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 2:32 AM

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Any help with this? Highlighted is the DRAM CAS latency, the rest downwards I’ve got no clue of what it means

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Some I can tell are timings, but there’s a lot more that I haven’t seen before, which just throws me off and I can’t get an idea of it

vapid crypt Jul 16, 2020, 2:38 AM

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Uh I don't know what any of that means phaSip

fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 2:39 AM

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Indeed

fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 3:26 AM

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Well I guess I'll just put that aside for some other day

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I guess I also will learn some more of it

abstract kite Jul 16, 2020, 4:17 AM

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what are you trying to do?

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specifically

vapid crypt Jul 16, 2020, 4:18 AM

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Using dram calculator to overclock and set the best timings for the RAM

abstract kite Jul 16, 2020, 4:18 AM

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ahh ok

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DDr4 I assume

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have you already clocked it up to base speed?

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if so?

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because most types of "faster ram" aren't actually faster unless you kick them up to what they are rated for in the bios

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for ex: if ram is 3200 MHZ it will only be at 2133 unless you change it

brisk badger Jul 16, 2020, 5:50 AM

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Its also worth mentioning that with the formula underneath you find out the real latency of your RAM

(CAS latency/RAM clock speed) x 2000 = latency in nanoseconds

Also worth looking at Command Rate if AMD even has that. In the past it could greatly improve performance when going from CR 2T to 1T

vapid crypt Jul 16, 2020, 6:59 AM

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Yes command rate is a thing

abstract kite Jul 16, 2020, 8:05 AM

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bit random, but does better ram help you get more fps?

merry bay Jul 16, 2020, 8:46 AM

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Yes, but you should aim for a balanced build always.

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Top end RAM in a mid-low range system will barely make any impact, also not cost-effective.

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you couldn't use just any motherboard for higher frequencies 4000+MHz

kindred fiber Jul 16, 2020, 9:13 AM

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Hi! I would like to build a new Ryzen PC for my brother
Just want to ask : is the Ryzen 7 2700x/non-x or Ryzen 5 3600x/non-x stable ? I find Ryzen CPU has lower price but higher performance compared to Intel so i want to try Ryzen, but i haven't had any Ryzen experiences.
My brother just only want to stable gaming PC and don't want to OC or config anything,it's like plug in and play.
My intended system:
+Mainboard: MSI B450m Tomahawk max
+Ram : Gskill Trident 3000 MHZ
+CPU:Ryzen 7 2700 or Ryzen 5 3600
+VGA: MSI Gaming Z 2070 8G

grizzled olive Jul 16, 2020, 9:55 AM

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@kindred fiber The Ryzen 5 3600 is good shit, so is the B450m. AMD cpus need good cooling but apart from that...

kindred fiber Jul 16, 2020, 10:00 AM

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can i use the stock cooler ? to save the money

merry bay Jul 16, 2020, 10:29 AM

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It will work with the stock cooler, but higher temps can give a hit for longevity. (looking few years ahead)
Also a really slight performance drop. (frequency depends on temperature even without an overclock)

fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 11:10 AM

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A ryzen 3600 is the best price to performance in gaming overall. Stock cooler is perfectly fine if you don’t want to overclock

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I also would recommend having 3200/3600MHz for RAM

kindred fiber Jul 16, 2020, 11:17 AM

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tks for that. Much appreciated

fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 2:09 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go1qsBetgV0 G7 review from Hardware Unboxed

jade ermine Jul 16, 2020, 3:45 PM

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Yea im sending this one back 😂

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fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 3:46 PM

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lmao how come?

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Is it the bad dark/bright spots?

clear quartz Jul 16, 2020, 3:48 PM

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ah, i see you are a man of culture as well

fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 3:50 PM

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I'm trying so hard to figure out what's wrong with it lmao

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Graphics do be looking fucking shit though

jade ermine Jul 16, 2020, 4:07 PM

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Backlight Bleed

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is really bad

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already sent it back lol

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imagine watching movie or playing GTFO for example

fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 4:09 PM

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Backlight bleed being?

jade ermine Jul 16, 2020, 4:09 PM

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right top and bottom corners are completely yellow

fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 4:09 PM

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Ah I see

jade ermine Jul 16, 2020, 4:09 PM

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left side was not that great either

abstract kite Jul 16, 2020, 4:19 PM

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my lord that monitor is horrendous lol brand?

jade ermine Jul 16, 2020, 4:22 PM

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Acer XV273KP

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4k 144hz IPS

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absolute dogshit blb

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quick comparison to my 34'' IPS monitor

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dusk igloo Jul 16, 2020, 4:23 PM

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damm that is bad

fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 4:24 PM

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lol

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Cheap ass price must have been it then

dusk igloo Jul 16, 2020, 4:24 PM

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with that i would rather play at 720

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thats some sick bleed

jade ermine Jul 16, 2020, 4:25 PM

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Yea not a lottery winner definitely

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would have been a good deal if backlight bleed was not that horrendous

brisk badger Jul 16, 2020, 4:27 PM

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RMA it? Doubt all of those acer monitors are that bad

fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 4:28 PM

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For a monitor at a price of uhh

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400$?

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euros

brisk badger Jul 16, 2020, 4:28 PM

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What do reviews say?

jade ermine Jul 16, 2020, 4:31 PM

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I already sent it back @brisk badger
Getting my coin back from that one

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@fleet canopy They normally go for around 700 euros. I just picked it up from sale.

dusk igloo Jul 16, 2020, 4:32 PM

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i can find a multible cases of people having the backlight bleed

fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 4:32 PM

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Ah, hm

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That seems wildly cheap considering the specs

dusk igloo Jul 16, 2020, 4:37 PM

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anyone seen samsungs new lineup G9, now my crg9/90 seems like it has a slow refresh

jade ermine Jul 16, 2020, 4:37 PM

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G9 has same refresh rate right now as crg9

dusk igloo Jul 16, 2020, 4:37 PM

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but did they not claim 240

fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 4:38 PM

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Dunno much of G9

jade ermine Jul 16, 2020, 4:38 PM

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they did

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and you cant use it as 240hz right now

fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 4:38 PM

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G7 is cool, but I wish it was a flat monitor

dusk igloo Jul 16, 2020, 4:38 PM

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the curve grovs on you when they are this wide

fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 4:38 PM

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It's best for ultra wide

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But at that resolution/size, it's shit

jade ermine Jul 16, 2020, 4:38 PM

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I can see curve being useful when you go above 34''

dusk igloo Jul 16, 2020, 4:39 PM

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jade ermine Jul 16, 2020, 4:39 PM

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did not really miss curve after my samsung 34''

dusk igloo Jul 16, 2020, 4:39 PM

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when it is 110 cm wide you want a curve

jade ermine Jul 16, 2020, 4:39 PM

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definitely

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G9's 1000R curve is wild

dusk igloo Jul 16, 2020, 4:40 PM

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that is more then this one

jade ermine Jul 16, 2020, 4:42 PM

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ReversedConfusedUlf

dusk igloo Jul 16, 2020, 4:43 PM

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when i play hunt showdown with my friends, and aim down sights with the lowest fov, i can still see more then they can while theyre not aiming

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it becomes wired with fov since it seems to work better for stretching when it is decreased

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weird*

fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 4:47 PM

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I just wish the G7 was not that curved af

dusk igloo Jul 16, 2020, 4:48 PM

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g7 is 32 right

fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 4:48 PM

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It'd be great to have it standard flat or 1800 curve

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32 and 27

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32" - 800USD msrp
27" - 700USD msrp

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Way more expensive than just a good standard 1440p 144hz IPS monitor

dusk igloo Jul 16, 2020, 4:49 PM

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well va is kinda new, and it is getting better

fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 4:49 PM

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VA is kinda new?

dusk igloo Jul 16, 2020, 4:50 PM

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in industry use

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never seen a VA here for sale as a normal screen

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well some years ago

fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 4:50 PM

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I've possibly seen quite a few over the years maybe

abstract kite Jul 16, 2020, 4:59 PM

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Damn so the new RTX 3000 will be 31.4% more powerful than their 2000

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Or around there

vapid crypt Jul 16, 2020, 5:12 PM

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The only benchmark we have leaked of Navi is also around 30%

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Though to be honest, if there is a 96 CU; let alone 80 CU card I mean 50% or more is plausible phaWesker

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It'd be nice, but considering we have leaked benchmarks from both of them being on par in performance this is amazing news

dusk igloo Jul 16, 2020, 5:16 PM

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it's is all nice till they take the sandbags out of the trunk

vapid crypt Jul 16, 2020, 5:16 PM

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Hmm until its out we'll see

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But it doesn't sound like they're sandbagging unless they decide to release something bigger than a 102 die to consumers

dusk igloo Jul 16, 2020, 5:17 PM

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just saying they could do it not that i see a reason.

vapid crypt Jul 16, 2020, 5:17 PM

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GA-101 Titan that costs 4k PirateSimon

dusk igloo Jul 16, 2020, 5:18 PM

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but no one needs a titan

vapid crypt Jul 16, 2020, 5:18 PM

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I know, though if the rumors of a 3090 is true maybe that's the ace up the sleeve

dusk igloo Jul 16, 2020, 5:18 PM

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wellllllll, most people will never use the vram which is the biggest deal about them

vapid crypt Jul 16, 2020, 5:18 PM

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Well the ace up the sleeve that everyone knows about

dusk igloo Jul 16, 2020, 5:19 PM

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too bad that there was 4 aces on the table already

vapid crypt Jul 16, 2020, 5:19 PM

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phaKrauser

fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 5:20 PM

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If you mean I'm ready for a monitor as in if I am ready for a better monitor, then yeah because I'm just playing 1440p 60Hz

jade ermine Jul 16, 2020, 5:21 PM

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@abstract kite Other than backlight bleed monitor was really good. G-sync worked great and picture was sharp as expected.

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Factory calibration was great too

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It was better compared to my 3440x1440p monitor

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youtube videos did look great on full screen too lol

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missed out on cat videos

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In metro exodus i had about 7gb vram usage 😄 98% GPU usage

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Witcher was playable too when you take AA out since its not needed and put settings on around medium

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But it was too small after 34

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maybe it would have been good secondary monitor

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no i had 3440x1440p monitor only

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there are no small monitors with that resolution

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with small i mean around 27''

vapid crypt Jul 16, 2020, 5:28 PM

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Just here with my two 22" monitors PirateSimon

jade ermine Jul 16, 2020, 5:28 PM

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but its 1440p anyhow and with black bars you can compare them

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Its just wider

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Its basically same as 27'' 1440p screen when you dont use 21:9

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maybe even smaller

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With 34'' 3440x1440p monitor you get same exact quality as with 27'' 2560x1440p monitor when you dont use that extra width?

dusk igloo Jul 16, 2020, 5:49 PM

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since the 2560x1440p is the amount of pixels, and 27 is the physical size, now we say the size change to 34 but the pixels density stays the same, that means we have fever pixels per inch of monitor, thus lowering the image quality

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also why phone screens usually look better up close compared to a monitor of the same resolution since there are way more pixels per inch.

abstract kite Jul 16, 2020, 5:51 PM

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That's cool

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Found it on twitter

dusk igloo Jul 16, 2020, 5:52 PM

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... ssd can be cooled too much as well

jade ermine Jul 16, 2020, 5:58 PM

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Thats ridiculous lol

sick reef Jul 16, 2020, 6:45 PM

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If it's just a passive transfer medium, it isn't that silly of an idea, because the main issue that the drives get is the spikes. So long it doesn't insulate, obviously.

fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 7:46 PM

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It’s a 3600, 16GB, 2 1tb nvmes, 450w psu, with a 5700 it’s in it. The system is dual boot to windows and macOS so it needed 2 separate ssds.

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Monitor is 17" 2560x1440p 144hz

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https://www.reddit.com/r/sffpc/comments/hsfd4a/this_is_why_we_make_these_staying_at_a_hotel/

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z09.2.0.0.38352e8dEki8A0&id=599163670857&_u=h2k6du6v1e9c

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Monitor link in chinese lol

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Google's "People also ask" section

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"Why is 144 Hz?"

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"Is 1440p 144hz possible?"

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"Can the human eye see 144hz?"

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"Do you need 144 frames for 144hz?"

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Opening the "Can the human eye see 144hz?" bar

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"Human eyes cannot see things beyond 60Hz."

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Full section

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"Human eyes cannot see things beyond 60Hz. So why are the 120Hz/144Hz monitors better? ... The eye transmits information to the brain, but some characteristics of the signal are lost or altered in the process. For example, the retina is capable of following lights that flash at a rapid rate."

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So it basically debunked its own first sentence

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You're welcome

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True

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But we still see 144hz work anyways

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Just a bunch of lights

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Yes

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Lights in action

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It also helps sine you don't move head

sick reef Jul 16, 2020, 8:39 PM

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Thinking that an arbitrary number is concrete proof over the human senses when we barely understand how the signals are transferred in the body to begin with.

fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 8:39 PM

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So we basically can see 144hz

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Hm.

proper wren Jul 16, 2020, 10:42 PM

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Did a $4k build

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He wanted 1080P MHW

vapid crypt Jul 16, 2020, 10:43 PM

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A 4k build for 1080p ConfusedUlf

proper wren Jul 16, 2020, 10:44 PM

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Including 2 monitors, keyboards and such

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Feels bad man

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While building some crazy dude came to talk about 5G towers and gov watching us lol

vapid crypt Jul 16, 2020, 10:51 PM

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I mean government watching you isn't really a crazy idea, it happens in a lot of countries. Though probably not to the extent these people might think. The 5G thing is just another boogie man to latch onto and blame for the problems of the world phaSip

sick reef Jul 16, 2020, 11:15 PM

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Most people give more information for free, by choice, than they give the government.

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Ironically.

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They out there worried that 5G is a government conspiracy, but post where they work, when they eat, what they eat, where they usually are, where they live, how it looks where they live, who they are with, when they aren't home, on social media.

fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 11:17 PM

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Like social media for example

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Or your local bank

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Or generally anything that requires your information

sick reef Jul 16, 2020, 11:17 PM

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Isn't difficult being a PI when people just give you literally everything you might need for free.

abstract kite Jul 16, 2020, 11:19 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/team-group-gx2-1tb/p/20-331-316?item=20-331-316&cm_mmc=snc-twitter-hotdeals-_-fantastech-sale-_-teamgroup-ssd-20-331-316-_-071520

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Is this a good SSD?

fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 11:20 PM

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Seems strange it reads up to 530MB/s

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Actually tbf

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I think an HDD is around 50-100MB/s so that's fine

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Looks neat

abstract kite Jul 16, 2020, 11:22 PM

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Thinking of getting this for a friend.

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🤔

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They need more space and this is on sale....

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OG Price is $130

fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 11:23 PM

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It's 105$ on me, but the sale looks good, if it's 81$

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1TB generally goes around 100$, so that's pretty cool

restive garnet Jul 16, 2020, 11:24 PM

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From my experience, good hard drives typically cap out at around 160mb/s

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Sata based ssds usually sit a touch over 500

sick reef Jul 16, 2020, 11:24 PM

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Consecutive read/write means squat in practice.

restive garnet Jul 16, 2020, 11:24 PM

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True enough

sick reef Jul 16, 2020, 11:24 PM

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Most SSDs are consecutive 500/500 because that's SATA cap.

restive garnet Jul 16, 2020, 11:25 PM

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Well, sata cap is a bit higher than that

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Iirc, good samsung sata ssds are like 560 or so

sick reef Jul 16, 2020, 11:25 PM

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Nowadays, yeah.

restive garnet Jul 16, 2020, 11:25 PM

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But yeah, close enough

sick reef Jul 16, 2020, 11:26 PM

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But that's just because of SATA 3.1 or what ever it was.

restive garnet Jul 16, 2020, 11:26 PM

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Real world usage thats probably more than enough for most situations

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Only issue is spike usage

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My 970 pro typically sits at ~1% utilization 90% of the time

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Occasionally shoots up to like 30% for a second at a time

sick reef Jul 16, 2020, 11:27 PM

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Well, SSD in should be, even in random read/write, because it's generally 150Mb/s compared to HDD 15Mb/s

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If even that. HDD speed is mostly reliant on either effectiveness, or spin speed.

fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 11:28 PM

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RTX looking good doe 👀

restive garnet Jul 16, 2020, 11:28 PM

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And cached data plays a huge part as well

fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 11:28 PM

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~~I wish that was a joke~~

abstract kite Jul 16, 2020, 11:28 PM

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Expensive Asf tho

restive garnet Jul 16, 2020, 11:28 PM

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And my god galerus

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What happened to your name

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Lmfao

fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 11:29 PM

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I created it

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Cool, right?

abstract kite Jul 16, 2020, 11:29 PM

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Blame @fleet canopy

restive garnet Jul 16, 2020, 11:29 PM

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I got my 970 pro same week as release

fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 11:29 PM

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Well UwUlfsAwAAwAr, I just merely improved GAwAlErErUwUs' name

restive garnet Jul 16, 2020, 11:29 PM

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Because id suddenly needed a new ssd

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Retrospect, not my finest move

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No question about its performance tho

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Also, please no

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Not like this

fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 11:30 PM

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I honestly should get an SSD real soon over my god forsaken 1TB

restive garnet Jul 16, 2020, 11:31 PM

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My 6tb is almost full

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Torn between using my slightly slower 3tb, or just buying a bunch of high capacity ssds

fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 11:32 PM

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lol

abstract kite Jul 16, 2020, 11:32 PM

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Your 6TB is almost full lol

restive garnet Jul 16, 2020, 11:32 PM

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Literally 5 tb of games lmao

fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 11:33 PM

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lel

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Of what?

restive garnet Jul 16, 2020, 11:33 PM

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There is not a single thing on that drive that isnt a game

fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 11:33 PM

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Buncha copies of 130-250GB games?

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And all your minecraft mods

restive garnet Jul 16, 2020, 11:33 PM

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Or like 6 call of duty games lmao

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Jokes aside

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Probably over 100 steam games

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About 30 origin games

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10 gog games

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Like 4 battlenet games

fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 11:34 PM

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Honestly

restive garnet Jul 16, 2020, 11:34 PM

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Escape from tarkov

fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 11:35 PM

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I don't know how the fuck I managed to fill up my 1TB drive

restive garnet Jul 16, 2020, 11:35 PM

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I wonder the same thing about my 3tb

fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 11:35 PM

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Let's look in me steamapp file

restive garnet Jul 16, 2020, 11:35 PM

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Took me multiple years to fill it

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Now ive almost doubled that in a year

abstract kite Jul 16, 2020, 11:35 PM

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Gross we have a Origin player

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Slay the heretic

restive garnet Jul 16, 2020, 11:36 PM

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Battlefield 4 aint gunna play itself fam

abstract kite Jul 16, 2020, 11:36 PM

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Gross

fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 11:36 PM

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Origin

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Titanfall 2

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Battlefield 3

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I wonder if the files to games I don't own also counts a good amount

abstract kite Jul 16, 2020, 11:36 PM

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Muppy you are exempt from the rule KM_Pat

fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 11:37 PM

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Or it's just 10MB-5GB save files

restive garnet Jul 16, 2020, 11:37 PM

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Titanfall 2, every battlefield game except V, the command and conquer collection, crysis collection, sims 3 and 4

abstract kite Jul 16, 2020, 11:37 PM

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Can your PC run Crysis?

restive garnet Jul 16, 2020, 11:37 PM

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Lmao

fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 11:37 PM

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Imagine having Battlefield 1/V

restive garnet Jul 16, 2020, 11:37 PM

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No

fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 11:37 PM

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Those are honestly pretty meh

restive garnet Jul 16, 2020, 11:38 PM

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I mean, one was pretty solid

fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 11:38 PM

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I really like their improved stuff though, in gunfight parts

restive garnet Jul 16, 2020, 11:38 PM

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It definitely had its issues

fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 11:38 PM

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It actually hits nicely unlike BF3

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Where you are in cover

restive garnet Jul 16, 2020, 11:38 PM

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The gunplay in one was fantastic

fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 11:38 PM

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And you die because your character is not in cover on their PC

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It's dumb

abstract kite Jul 16, 2020, 11:39 PM

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Quick question. Would a regular ATX Case only have enough space for 1 HDD Tray? My friend is saying that one HDD takes up two slots for storage rake.

restive garnet Jul 16, 2020, 11:39 PM

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My main issue with 1 was the stupid gun customization system

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Uh

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What?

fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 11:39 PM

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Doesn't sound right

restive garnet Jul 16, 2020, 11:40 PM

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I mean, no such thing as a regular atx case for starters

fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 11:40 PM

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Battlefield 4 has the greatest gun customization I've seen tbf

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For battlefield itself

abstract kite Jul 16, 2020, 11:40 PM

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Aww yeah

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fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 11:40 PM

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BF1 was shit though

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Just like

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10 of the same gun with different attachement

abstract kite Jul 16, 2020, 11:40 PM

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Metro Exodus has the best gun customization I've seen tbf

restive garnet Jul 16, 2020, 11:40 PM

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Yeah

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It pissed me off that the assault class vanilla literally only had 2 smgs

fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 11:41 PM

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lmao what?

restive garnet Jul 16, 2020, 11:41 PM

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A class based around smgs and shotguns

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And it has 2 smgs

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3 shotguns

fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 11:41 PM

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I wish I had some way of seeing how much file size on a folder

restive garnet Jul 16, 2020, 11:41 PM

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Right click properties?

fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 11:41 PM

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BC2 Medic with LMG

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Was just

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Not very cool

restive garnet Jul 16, 2020, 11:42 PM

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A bit pullshit

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I missed bc2 multiplayer

fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 11:42 PM

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BF3 corrected that at least

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Medic has the great assault rifles lol

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Like the M416

restive garnet Jul 16, 2020, 11:42 PM

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Aug master race ;)

fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 11:43 PM

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I use the P2000 for the med though

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I haven't used it very often

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And I gotta say it's pretty good

restive garnet Jul 16, 2020, 11:43 PM

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As in the pp2000?

fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 11:43 PM

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Hipfire with it is sweet

sick reef Jul 16, 2020, 11:43 PM

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If it's normal-core, it's eh

restive garnet Jul 16, 2020, 11:43 PM

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Russian para weapon?

fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 11:43 PM

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The medic gun that's kinda funky

sick reef Jul 16, 2020, 11:43 PM

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Never liked the gun-play in that

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Hard-core felt better balanced.

fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 11:43 PM

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Actually I forgot what gun

restive garnet Jul 16, 2020, 11:43 PM

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I enjoyed hardcore

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But good luck finding an oceania hardcore server

fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 11:44 PM

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F2000

restive garnet Jul 16, 2020, 11:44 PM

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Ah

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The assault rifle

sick reef Jul 16, 2020, 11:44 PM

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Yeah

restive garnet Jul 16, 2020, 11:44 PM

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Havent actually unlocked that yet

sick reef Jul 16, 2020, 11:44 PM

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If I remember, one of the lesser good one's.

fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 11:44 PM

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Meh

sick reef Jul 16, 2020, 11:44 PM

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Most low-damage guns are.

fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 11:44 PM

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It's a good hip fire gun

restive garnet Jul 16, 2020, 11:44 PM

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Ive got almost everything but that

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I just find the aug is a good middle ground rifle

sick reef Jul 16, 2020, 11:45 PM

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You'll lose duels purely based on that your gun dealt less DPS.

restive garnet Jul 16, 2020, 11:45 PM

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Doesnt need attachments to make it good

sick reef Jul 16, 2020, 11:45 PM

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Speaking normal-core.

restive garnet Jul 16, 2020, 11:45 PM

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Hardcore you just use a suppressed dmr with a thermal

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Its a tad busted

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I get annoyed at the battlepacks tho

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Locking irnv scopes and high powered scopes behind a surprise mechanic

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You just have to pray you get them for guns you have/like

sick reef Jul 16, 2020, 11:49 PM

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Nah

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All snipers one-shot

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Most rifle only needed one burst to kill

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IRNV doesn't help in DM, and it only nets you few kills in conquest.

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Especially since everyone else is also likely to run it, if not just an extremely open sight

restive garnet Jul 16, 2020, 11:50 PM

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It gets you a lot of kills on certain maps

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Tho i will concede that most other players are likely to run it

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Which brings me back to the point that its bullshit locking them in lootboxes

fleet canopy Jul 16, 2020, 11:52 PM

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"Surprise mechanic"

sick reef Jul 17, 2020, 12:10 AM

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I genuinely played until I just unlocked all that stuff. hmmm

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500 kills or what ever

abstract kite Jul 17, 2020, 1:16 AM

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So I'm updating my PC and after 10 minutes I get a "Exceptions" or whatever error and my PC just restarts. Should I be worried?

vapid crypt Jul 17, 2020, 1:18 AM

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Probably not

sick reef Jul 17, 2020, 1:49 PM

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Everyone who isn't aware that they are has. Disregarding those who actually profit from it.

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People haven't had to bite the bullet over it yet, is all.

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Or, well, some of course have, but who cares about those people.

sick reef Jul 17, 2020, 2:27 PM

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So, they aren't aware?

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peepoLulWut

brisk badger Jul 17, 2020, 2:30 PM

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Sadly the US is spying us as well, if not longer than china does

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just because we are from the west and it's a democracy we are more okay but it is as bad

abstract kite Jul 17, 2020, 3:48 PM

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Question what are the things the hold your Storage Devices?

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Storage Racks? Trays?

fleet canopy Jul 17, 2020, 3:50 PM

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Think they're drive bays lmao

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I forgot

abstract kite Jul 17, 2020, 3:52 PM

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I am asking because yesterday my friend said their PC only had room for one HDD...

fleet canopy Jul 17, 2020, 3:53 PM

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Looks like he has like 3 more slots

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Crappy office PC days

abstract kite Jul 17, 2020, 3:53 PM

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Whoops

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Wrong pic

fleet canopy Jul 17, 2020, 3:53 PM

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Oh no

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It's not straight down

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Why is it not aligned

dusk igloo Jul 17, 2020, 3:54 PM

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not the problem it only has like 2 sata ports

abstract kite Jul 17, 2020, 3:54 PM

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📎 unknown.png

fleet canopy Jul 17, 2020, 3:54 PM

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Well

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That HDD is not aligned

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If it is, he can fit 1 or 3 more

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Yeah 1 more can be put in

abstract kite Jul 17, 2020, 3:55 PM

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What kind of Bays can that take?

fleet canopy Jul 17, 2020, 3:55 PM

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That HDD looks like a 3.5

dusk igloo Jul 17, 2020, 3:55 PM

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naaa you just throw it in there

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dont be so uptight

abstract kite Jul 17, 2020, 3:55 PM

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Well atleast I am not loose like you. 😉

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Anywho

fleet canopy Jul 17, 2020, 3:55 PM

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kek

abstract kite Jul 17, 2020, 3:57 PM

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07J2PLYK7?tag=amz-mkt-chr-us-20&ascsubtag=1ba00-01000-org00-win10-other-nomod-us000-pcomp-feature-pcomp-wm-3-wm-8&ref=aa_pcomp_eoh1_psp1_aps1_atc1

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Would this work @fleet canopy ?

dusk igloo Jul 17, 2020, 3:57 PM

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wish i had a photo of my old antic pc case, one of them were you can stick a finger in the power supply

abstract kite Jul 17, 2020, 3:57 PM

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Kinky

dusk igloo Jul 17, 2020, 3:58 PM

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i wanted the supply away so where the disk drive and other expansion was supposed to go i crammed a powersupply into, aka the front

fleet canopy Jul 17, 2020, 3:58 PM

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It seems like it fits only on a number of cases

dusk igloo Jul 17, 2020, 3:59 PM

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they fit in the define R6

fleet canopy Jul 17, 2020, 3:59 PM

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Not just the r6

dusk igloo Jul 17, 2020, 3:59 PM

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well the series

fleet canopy Jul 17, 2020, 3:59 PM

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Meshify S2 as well

abstract kite Jul 17, 2020, 3:59 PM

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What would you recommend, @fleet canopy ?

dusk igloo Jul 17, 2020, 4:00 PM

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may i ask the end goal of number of drives

abstract kite Jul 17, 2020, 4:01 PM

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https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Dual-Mounting-Bracket-CSSD-BRKT2/dp/B016498CK0/ref=sr_1_20?dchild=1&keywords=3.5+storage+bay&qid=1595001661&s=electronics&sr=1-20?

dusk igloo Jul 17, 2020, 4:01 PM

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or is it just fitment

fleet canopy Jul 17, 2020, 4:01 PM

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I mean, if the little slot below that CD reader isn't taken over, and he aligns that HDD correct, he could fit 2-3 more lol

abstract kite Jul 17, 2020, 4:01 PM

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They need 2, but 3 would be okay too

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Would that work?

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The Corsair?

fleet canopy Jul 17, 2020, 4:02 PM

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Then I'm sure just aligning that HDD would work perfectly fine, because it isn't

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It looks like it just takes up both when it's not supposed to

dusk igloo Jul 17, 2020, 4:03 PM

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it looks like it is a bracket to convert one 3.5 to 2x 2.5

abstract kite Jul 17, 2020, 4:03 PM

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I know.

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I am asking if you can link me say something that could work?

fleet canopy Jul 17, 2020, 4:04 PM

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Two slots there.

📎 HDD.png

abstract kite Jul 17, 2020, 4:04 PM

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Yes I see that

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They do not have the tray to hold it up

fleet canopy Jul 17, 2020, 4:05 PM

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Oh I see

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So this is like a uhh

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HP case?

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An HDD tray

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Well that's the idea yeah

dusk igloo Jul 17, 2020, 4:06 PM

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if that is an hp case they use sliders mounted to the ssd

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hdd*

fleet canopy Jul 17, 2020, 4:06 PM

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Mm, I did forget that part

abstract kite Jul 17, 2020, 4:06 PM

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This is a older PC that was a gift. I doubt they have the screws

fleet canopy Jul 17, 2020, 4:06 PM

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You could order some screws that match the original or should at least fit in nicely

abstract kite Jul 17, 2020, 4:06 PM

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You need screws to hold it in?

fleet canopy Jul 17, 2020, 4:06 PM

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Yeah

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HDD is big enough to just not need the tray

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They still work like that nowadays lol

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I have never seen a design change in HDDs, they're all the same

dusk igloo Jul 17, 2020, 4:07 PM

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old hp drives have these

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📎 HTB13fzoKXXXXXaPXFXXq6xXFXXXw.png

fleet canopy Jul 17, 2020, 4:08 PM

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That's just the same thing like today's drive though, isn't it?

dusk igloo Jul 17, 2020, 4:08 PM

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if you know the model it might have a tray instead

fleet canopy Jul 17, 2020, 4:08 PM

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Unless the case has a little bigger slot than what I'm seeing?

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You should just be able to screw it in anyways

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Never seen that on an HDD though

abstract kite Jul 17, 2020, 4:09 PM

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They are also going to be getting a 2TB HDD

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Do you think they shold just slot it in there?

dusk igloo Jul 17, 2020, 4:09 PM

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@abstract kite if you look at the bays it does look like it has sliding indents for mounting

abstract kite Jul 17, 2020, 4:09 PM

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A Seagate to be specific

fleet canopy Jul 17, 2020, 4:10 PM

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That's pretty much why both sides are curved. To be mounted by sliding

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The screws can be a necessity, but I think just sliding it in works because iirc it had friction pushing in/pulling out the HDD

abstract kite Jul 17, 2020, 4:13 PM

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I am honestly skeptical about just slliding in=t in there

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📎 unknown.png

fleet canopy Jul 17, 2020, 4:15 PM

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Ironic I'm watching a movie titled "Airplane!"

abstract kite Jul 17, 2020, 4:15 PM

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Are there screws I can buy?

dusk igloo Jul 17, 2020, 4:16 PM

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it was an old office pc. mass build?

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in that case most parts can be found cheap, caddy hdd screws

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noticed it was an optiplex looking at the picture, it has trays

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📎 Dell-Optiplex-7010-Inside-View.png

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optiplex 7000 series MT

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and this is properly the right tray

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/Hard-Drive-Tray-Caddy-For-3-5-Dell-OptiPlex-7010-7020-9010-9020-MT-SFF-PX60023-/223028659634

abstract kite Jul 17, 2020, 4:28 PM

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Looks like it is their case

dusk igloo Jul 17, 2020, 4:28 PM

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sadly on forced holiday or i would just open an OptiPlex at work to see

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dont be so uptight server hdd mounting work the same way

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the only way to be sure what tray to use is to look what optiplex it is

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all office pc shows there model like this picture of an optiplex 7010

📎 2431146_5c8d924e2e50.png

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right there at the top of the case, in this case it is the smaller form factor version

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the tower should have the open rails like this one for the caddy to fit into

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found a manual for it, in it you can see that the rail mate with the metal drive cage.

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abstract kite Jul 17, 2020, 5:02 PM

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Thank you @dusk igloo

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I'll let them know.

brisk badger Jul 17, 2020, 5:03 PM

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Imagine, someone has to RTFM for you

abstract kite Jul 17, 2020, 5:03 PM

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RTFM?

brisk badger Jul 17, 2020, 5:03 PM

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Read The Fucking Manual

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Shawn' gonna say that in a year

fleet canopy Jul 17, 2020, 5:03 PM

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lol

abstract kite Jul 17, 2020, 5:04 PM

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Tbf they don't know a lot of this stuff about PC's.

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I don't either and I am learning as I go

brisk badger Jul 17, 2020, 5:04 PM

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I let it slide

abstract kite Jul 17, 2020, 5:07 PM

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Are you mad I am reading the manual?

fleet canopy Jul 17, 2020, 5:07 PM

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Nah, not really something to be ashamed of or be mad about

brisk badger Jul 17, 2020, 5:10 PM

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How To Interpret Answers
RTFM and STFW: How To Tell You've Seriously Screwed Up
There is an ancient and hallowed tradition: if you get a reply that reads “RTFM”, the person who sent it thinks you should have Read The Fucking Manual. He or she is almost certainly right. Go read it.

RTFM has a younger relative. If you get a reply that reads “STFW”, the person who sent it thinks you should have Searched The Fucking Web. He or she is almost certainly right. Go search it. (The milder version of this is when you are told “Google is your friend!”)

In Web forums, you may also be told to search the forum archives. In fact, someone may even be so kind as to provide a pointer to the previous thread where this problem was solved. But do not rely on this consideration; do your archive-searching before asking.

Often, the person telling you to do a search has the manual or the web page with the information you need open, and is looking at it as he or she types. These replies mean that the responder thinks (a) the information you need is easy to find, and (b) you will learn more if you seek out the information than if you have it spoon-fed to you.

You shouldn't be offended by this; by hacker standards, your respondent is showing you a rough kind of respect simply by not ignoring you. You should instead be thankful for this grandmotherly kindness.

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And I am not mad, just a general reply to RTFM

fleet canopy Jul 17, 2020, 5:12 PM

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Not always

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Some are kinda like that one youtube video that's so clear and descriptive made by an Indian man

abstract kite Jul 17, 2020, 5:12 PM

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-_-

brisk badger Jul 17, 2020, 5:13 PM

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Depends. In the Linux world if you ask trivial question 75% of people will have no patience and just say RTFM.
There is bogus manuals yes but mostly they come from chinese vendors with odd wording / english

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I disagree. You learn more by thinking

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and analyze stuff

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you should always ask a question after you tried it yourself and were unsuccessful

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not about galerus RTFM case, just generally

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then the next step is on how to formulate a question which luckily many of here are good at

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people who write things "my pc is crashing, help" are a lost cause. Lavars will disagree but they have to work on themselves first before getting help

abstract kite Jul 17, 2020, 5:18 PM

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you should always ask a question after you tried it yourself and were unsuccessful
@brisk badger
I am going to ask regardless.

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Rather you, yourself like to answer it is irrelevant.

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If you do not like it then kindly find the door.

dusk igloo Jul 17, 2020, 5:19 PM

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linux makes it easy since most everyone makes easy to use MAN pages

brisk badger Jul 17, 2020, 5:20 PM

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that's why everyon RTFM directly at you 😛

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and yea; I also received surely more than 50 RTFM's in my life

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I sometimes also try

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but people will know

dusk igloo Jul 17, 2020, 5:22 PM

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I work as an IT-technician apprentice in the Military i find it hard to tell people to RTFM since it is my job to know, and service the systems

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that and try telling a regiment leader to read a manual......

abstract kite Jul 17, 2020, 5:25 PM

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I dislike your opinion, Wooza.

brisk badger Jul 17, 2020, 5:25 PM

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well that also is a different scenario. You are paid to solve their problems

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That may be. But that is how the IT world rules. The more advanced your question become the more you find people to RTFM you

dusk igloo Jul 17, 2020, 5:26 PM

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yes i know the RTFM is a don't waste our time on something you easily can find the answer to

brisk badger Jul 17, 2020, 5:27 PM

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I think you misunderstand me; I am not against helping but before seeking help you should do your research

abstract kite Jul 17, 2020, 5:27 PM

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I am security , although I do not need to answer peoples questions to help them find what they need I help them regardless. I do not tell them to read some manual because I cannot be bothered to talk to them.

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It isn't my job to direct people to say where the bathroom is.

brisk badger Jul 17, 2020, 5:28 PM

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you think I invented the word RTFM?

abstract kite Jul 17, 2020, 5:28 PM

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No, but the way you are presenting it makes you sound like a dick.

brisk badger Jul 17, 2020, 5:28 PM

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i want to be a dick

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i want that people use their brain

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and learn

abstract kite Jul 17, 2020, 5:29 PM

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Cool we have nothing more to discuss

dusk igloo Jul 17, 2020, 5:29 PM

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lets not turn this chat into somthing it is not...

abstract kite Jul 17, 2020, 5:29 PM

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Nah I just blocked him. I don't want someone like that telling me I cannot ask a question because I need to "RTFM".

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Piss off with that dumbshit

brisk badger Jul 17, 2020, 5:32 PM

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That's hilarious. In 20 years of IT i never seen someone gets his heart broken by saying RTFM

abstract kite Jul 17, 2020, 5:33 PM

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Well now you have. I hope you are satisfied with yourself.

merry bay Jul 17, 2020, 5:33 PM

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you're taking it too personally I'd say. You can ask any question you want, but if the answer is in the manual there's a good chance you'd be quicker to look it up yourself.

abstract kite Jul 17, 2020, 5:34 PM

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I am taking it personally. Just answer the damn question if you know it.

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Simple.

brisk badger Jul 17, 2020, 5:34 PM

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and RTFM back at you 😋

merry bay Jul 17, 2020, 5:34 PM

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Answering that question literally involves figuring out the product you're looking help for, opening up the manual and regurgitating it back to you.

abstract kite Jul 17, 2020, 5:35 PM

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And if I don't know said figure?

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It's not like I can just google "What is this?" lol

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And Wooza will remained blocked, 20 years in IT and he acts like a dick. No thanks. lol

merry bay Jul 17, 2020, 5:36 PM

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Actually that's kind of the next step. Googling can get you pretty far, you get a feel for keywords after doing it a few times.
But if those efforts are in vain, by all means - ask.

fleet canopy Jul 17, 2020, 5:36 PM

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Everyone tries to help, but they're not filled with all the answers

abstract kite Jul 17, 2020, 5:36 PM

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I know

fleet canopy Jul 17, 2020, 5:37 PM

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Some just can't give a simple solution, and have to give a way of figuring it out

abstract kite Jul 17, 2020, 5:37 PM

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But @dusk igloo did know the answer

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He helped and I ordered said trays

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Thank you again for that.

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But still telling me to go "RTFM" yeah no I will tell you to piss off with that.

brisk badger Jul 17, 2020, 5:39 PM

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STFW? (Search the fucking web)

abstract kite Jul 17, 2020, 5:39 PM

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Kek

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Just straight KEKW

lucid basalt Jul 17, 2020, 5:39 PM

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Move on or youre being petty. Both of you.
At least take it to DMs. No one else is invested in thsi spat

abstract kite Jul 17, 2020, 5:39 PM

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You are not a Mod and if you see fit you can call one in here to break it up.

brisk badger Jul 17, 2020, 5:40 PM

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dont take it personal. RTFM is a soecial word in the IT industry. No one is mean to the person asking. All we want is that you put time into the problem yourself first

vapid crypt Jul 17, 2020, 5:40 PM

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ConfusedUlf ReversedConfusedUlf

brisk badger Jul 17, 2020, 5:40 PM

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you can't RTFM if you work as IT Support, unless you are a mad lad

sick reef Jul 17, 2020, 5:43 PM

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The first thing I do when I get a problem with any product is to check the manual, as well as search stuff up.

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Principally.

brisk badger Jul 17, 2020, 5:43 PM

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RTFM? mostly boomers who use it

abstract kite Jul 17, 2020, 5:43 PM

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That is you. I like to ask questions.

sick reef Jul 17, 2020, 5:43 PM

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Did you try reading the manual?

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In the situation.

abstract kite Jul 17, 2020, 5:44 PM

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If I don't know what I am looking for how can I read the manual for it? xD

sick reef Jul 17, 2020, 5:44 PM

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peepoShrug

abstract kite Jul 17, 2020, 5:44 PM

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So seriously.

sick reef Jul 17, 2020, 5:44 PM

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In general. Most things have a manual.

dusk igloo Jul 17, 2020, 5:44 PM

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tbh it was not an official manual.'

abstract kite Jul 17, 2020, 5:45 PM

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HOw cAn I kNoW wIThouT ASking?

sick reef Jul 17, 2020, 5:45 PM

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It isn't really that you have to do it. But if you haven't, it's generally a good advice.

abstract kite Jul 17, 2020, 5:45 PM

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derpzerotwo

fleet canopy Jul 17, 2020, 5:45 PM

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You could search up the manual

brisk badger Jul 17, 2020, 5:45 PM

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it looked to me that you had all necessary requirements to do a google search

fleet canopy Jul 17, 2020, 5:45 PM

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Might be on their website to download

abstract kite Jul 17, 2020, 5:46 PM

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Muppy.

sick reef Jul 17, 2020, 5:46 PM

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Product name/ID, manufacturer, and a search engine.

merry bay Jul 17, 2020, 5:46 PM

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And it's perfectly in line to say I tried that, or you're unsure how to proceed instead of getting offended

fleet canopy Jul 17, 2020, 5:46 PM

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Me

abstract kite Jul 17, 2020, 5:46 PM

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Labcat your words are falling of deaf ears and I don't want to hear it.

sick reef Jul 17, 2020, 5:46 PM

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Yeah, I'm not talking to you.

abstract kite Jul 17, 2020, 5:46 PM

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You were.

sick reef Jul 17, 2020, 5:46 PM

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Yeah, but as you said, you're not "listening"

brisk badger Jul 17, 2020, 5:47 PM

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Let's make the derail train stop and talk about how silly intel is in 2020

sick reef Jul 17, 2020, 5:47 PM

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Probably.

fleet canopy Jul 17, 2020, 5:47 PM

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Intel is bum

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They're gonna do 10nm in like forever later

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Probably 2022 iirc

dusk igloo Jul 17, 2020, 5:47 PM

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oh yea my laptop wants to burn, because intel thinks the cpu should run at 4.6ghz

brisk badger Jul 17, 2020, 5:47 PM

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If I knew where this would lead, I may have not played the RTFM card. I just did because I know galerus now for longer and he seems to be able to solve things on his own. Damn

fleet canopy Jul 17, 2020, 5:48 PM

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It's quite a gain for gaming

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But not so much against AMD really

brisk badger Jul 17, 2020, 5:48 PM

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still using an i7 4790k, please AMD release Zen 3 soon 😢

fleet canopy Jul 17, 2020, 5:48 PM

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Except gaming

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Imagine getting Zen 3

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pfft

dusk igloo Jul 17, 2020, 5:48 PM

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i'm happy with my Ryzen 7 now i dont have to shut down my vm's

brisk badger Jul 17, 2020, 5:48 PM

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its release is in end of september @fleet canopy ?

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or wdym

fleet canopy Jul 17, 2020, 5:49 PM

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Yeah

brisk badger Jul 17, 2020, 5:49 PM

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probably expensive

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then i pick the zen 2 which surely is on sale

fleet canopy Jul 17, 2020, 5:49 PM

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I was just joking about getting Zen 3 anyways

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They're known to keep prices quite nice

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But Zen 2 might offer some good value

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Once Zen 3 releases ofc

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Pretty much everything is due to release on September at this point, so a lot of wallets will become thin GWjiangoOmegaLUL

dusk igloo Jul 17, 2020, 5:51 PM

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well i just need dat sweet new graphics card so i can run games better on my crg9

abstract kite Jul 17, 2020, 5:51 PM

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I cleaned mine out of thousands of receipts Kek

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It became thinner.

merry bay Jul 17, 2020, 5:51 PM

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i'm not sure what to do with my 4790K, got it used, it was on its last legs. If highly utilized it's unstable and sometimes bluescreens.
Feels bad to sell it, but even then if I list it as faulty I risk refund abuse. Saying the minimum and just listing it doesn't sit well with me either.
Just had it sit for months now.

dusk igloo Jul 17, 2020, 5:53 PM

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so anyone else got a super ultra wide monitor?

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wanna hear other peoples experiences

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32 by 9

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the 49 crg9

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i got one i like it alot

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the older version of the samsung g9

merry bay Jul 17, 2020, 5:54 PM

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i've seen it person, only used it for a few minutes. Like triple monitor with no bezel. Too bad you can't segment it into multiple monitors

dusk igloo Jul 17, 2020, 5:54 PM

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you can segment but you gotta use software

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crg9 is like 2 27 side by side

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i do other stuff then gaming which is why i got it

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and it is still capable of 120HZ at duel QHD

pale prairie Jul 17, 2020, 5:56 PM

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My phone was at 2% and I put it in the microwave to recharge it. 3 minutes didn't seem to work, phone is completely dead now. Any other ways to charge it? I lost the cable.

dusk igloo Jul 17, 2020, 5:56 PM

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well VA panels are a jack of all trades panel

abstract kite Jul 17, 2020, 5:57 PM

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Did you RTFM?

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kek

pale prairie Jul 17, 2020, 5:57 PM

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Manual was saved as pdf on phone

abstract kite Jul 17, 2020, 5:57 PM

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Well then looks like people here will tell you to google it

fleet canopy Jul 17, 2020, 5:57 PM

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Imagine having ultra wide

abstract kite Jul 17, 2020, 5:57 PM

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Kek

fleet canopy Jul 17, 2020, 5:57 PM

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Pfft

dusk igloo Jul 17, 2020, 5:58 PM

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Yes now we just need to desolder the memory chip so we can load it onto a pc

merry bay Jul 17, 2020, 5:58 PM

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just switch out the battery 4Heed

lucid basalt Jul 17, 2020, 5:58 PM

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Or get a new cable

dusk igloo Jul 17, 2020, 5:59 PM

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I once had a friend who microwaved her iphone,

lucid basalt Jul 17, 2020, 5:59 PM

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Not gonna lie i didn't know microwaving your phone was a thing

dusk igloo Jul 17, 2020, 6:00 PM

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died instantly

lucid basalt Jul 17, 2020, 6:00 PM

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Ok so its not lol

abstract kite Jul 17, 2020, 6:00 PM

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Nono it "Charges" the Iphone

pale prairie Jul 17, 2020, 6:00 PM

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Please don't actually do that xD

abstract kite Jul 17, 2020, 6:00 PM

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Did you tell her that updating her Iphone's Software makes it Waterproof too?

dusk igloo Jul 17, 2020, 6:01 PM

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the phone did survive it, but it was severely crippled

merry bay Jul 17, 2020, 6:01 PM

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a lot of people didn't know it's a thing

dusk igloo Jul 17, 2020, 6:01 PM

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yes

abstract kite Jul 17, 2020, 6:01 PM

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😂

dusk igloo Jul 17, 2020, 6:01 PM

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i love dis trolling

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how do people fall for this.....

pale prairie Jul 17, 2020, 6:02 PM

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The same people who downloaded that iphone game that gave you move points based on how high you tossed your phone

dusk igloo Jul 17, 2020, 6:02 PM

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i guess ignorance is pure bliss

merry bay Jul 17, 2020, 6:03 PM

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Psychology can be interesting. How people will do mental gymnastics after getting an idea of something to justify that crazy idea

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vague is good enough

pale prairie Jul 17, 2020, 6:04 PM

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Think the game was called S.M.T.H (send me to heaven)

abstract kite Jul 17, 2020, 6:04 PM

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Tbf that does look like its genuine

dusk igloo Jul 17, 2020, 6:04 PM

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best game recommended by apple themselves

pale prairie Jul 17, 2020, 6:05 PM

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Lol, you can't convince me that apple did not develop that game

dusk igloo Jul 17, 2020, 6:06 PM

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my cousin loved that app, tho he uses a rugged case so dropping it really did nothing

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the amount of times i've seen that phone get tossed into a car at mach 4

restive garnet Jul 17, 2020, 7:12 PM

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i remember that game, iirc the developer literally wanted to destroy peoples iphones as a bit of a social experiment

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to his credit, before hed even made the game, he pitched it to a group and they all started throwing their phones up in the air without the app even existing

lucid basalt Jul 17, 2020, 7:17 PM

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I dont have a good enough facepalm emoji/gif for this.

hazy knot Jul 17, 2020, 7:28 PM

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Anyone running a 1440p 144Hz setup?

fleet canopy Jul 17, 2020, 7:30 PM

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I wish I had a 1440p 144hz monitor

sick reef Jul 17, 2020, 7:32 PM

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I do

restive garnet Jul 17, 2020, 7:32 PM

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im a wee bit off, ultrawide 1440 @ 100hz

sick reef Jul 17, 2020, 7:33 PM

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I have a G-sync 1440p144Hz monitor. hmmm

restive garnet Jul 17, 2020, 7:33 PM

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im considering getting one of those samsung G9s

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i can get them a tad cheaper through work

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because reasons

fleet canopy Jul 17, 2020, 7:44 PM

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I would have gotten a G7 if it didn't mean that it had to come with that shit curve

vapid crypt Jul 17, 2020, 8:23 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30doPaidKlo

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Looks like Zen 3 desktop will be about 20% faster than Zen 2

fleet canopy Jul 17, 2020, 8:24 PM

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20%?

vapid crypt Jul 17, 2020, 8:25 PM

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Yes 20%

fleet canopy Jul 17, 2020, 8:25 PM

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Thought it'd be a bigger amount from what I heard

vapid crypt Jul 17, 2020, 8:26 PM

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Well I'd be more confident with 20%, that's a pretty decent and believable uplift.

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They aren't making any massive changes, best case infinity fabric clock can do 2ghz; and clockspeeds are like 200mhz higher. So 4.9ghz or something

jade ermine Jul 17, 2020, 8:28 PM

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Only thing i want is smaller latencies

vapid crypt Jul 17, 2020, 8:29 PM

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Right, with the fclock going up, and 8 core CCXs that's no problem

jade ermine Jul 17, 2020, 8:30 PM

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Good, Might even catch up to intel in games finally

vapid crypt Jul 17, 2020, 8:31 PM

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Zen 2 basically caught up disregarding 1080p benchmarks with a 2080ti PirateSimon

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Cause that's something that people do I guess, but I mean why ConfusedUlf

fleet canopy Jul 17, 2020, 8:32 PM

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Uhh

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Because "money hurr durr

vapid crypt Jul 17, 2020, 8:33 PM

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Zen 3 could certainly overtake in performance, Rocket Lake might match it; and then Alder Lake they'll stand a good chance but by then Zen 4 would be around I think

fleet canopy Jul 17, 2020, 8:34 PM

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I mean I guess they have that setup for RTX

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But if they could afford a 2080 Ti, surely they can afford a 3900X/3950X

vapid crypt Jul 17, 2020, 8:34 PM

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Nothing will ever justify Turing's RTX

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Under no circumstance should a high end video card be needed at 1080p, RTX is a joke and I think DX 12 Ultimate will kill it

merry bay Jul 17, 2020, 8:54 PM

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The only times a top end GPU for 1080p can make sense is for hitting the smoothness breaking point.
Once used to a 144Hz panel, anything below 90fps feels like close to 30fps on a 60Hz panel.
There are games where an extra 10-15fps puts you in that range of smoothness.

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It's not a requirement by any means, but you're never distracted by stutters at that point.

fleet canopy Jul 17, 2020, 8:57 PM

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Aside from 144hz, I've tried to achieve it on 100% 60+

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Instead of the 1% or 0.1% lows going below 60

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The main menu/loading screen would look way smoother than the game, no matter how easy it is to run a game to 60FPS

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Sure, it's easier when you have a 144hz monitor, wouldn't be too noticeable

abstract kite Jul 17, 2020, 9:28 PM

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.

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Guys?

vapid crypt Jul 17, 2020, 9:42 PM

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Yes?

abstract kite Jul 17, 2020, 9:47 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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This was going on I thought it was over when I was able to say "Guys?"

fleet canopy Jul 17, 2020, 9:50 PM

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It's just discord going poo

stark plover Jul 18, 2020, 12:07 AM

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when discord poopoo itself we revert back to skype

vapid crypt Jul 18, 2020, 12:08 AM

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I mean I got Guilded phaSip

stark plover Jul 18, 2020, 12:09 AM

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very indubitably

bright shard Jul 18, 2020, 1:20 AM

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how about if discord craps itself, we launch skype out of a cannon.

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and use literally anything else.

vapid crypt Jul 18, 2020, 2:28 AM

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Microsoft basically already shot Skype out of a cannon

proper wren Jul 18, 2020, 4:14 AM

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https://www.notebookcheck.net/YouTuber-alleges-that-MSI-offered-money-in-exchange-for-hushing-disappointing-MSI-Bravo-15-laptop-review.481569.0.html

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hmmmmm

proper wren Jul 18, 2020, 6:08 AM

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Whos ready for 12K Cameras doggopeek

hazy knot Jul 18, 2020, 9:23 AM

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im a wee bit off, ultrawide 1440 @ 100hz
@restive garnet epic

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I have a G-sync 1440p144Hz monitor. :hmmm:
@sick reef me want

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I regret getting a crappy monitor

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Wrong thing to cheap out on

restive garnet Jul 18, 2020, 11:21 AM

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Can guarantee, if you spend the money on a good monitor, it makes the world of difference

abstract kite Jul 18, 2020, 6:04 PM

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Should i get a better cpu or gpu

vapid crypt Jul 18, 2020, 6:05 PM

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Depends, what do you have now?

abstract kite Jul 18, 2020, 6:09 PM

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no i mean should i get a more powerful cpu than my gpu or should i get like a balanced cpu and gpu.

timber lotus Jul 18, 2020, 6:09 PM

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ugandanknuckles

vapid crypt Jul 18, 2020, 6:19 PM

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Well what are you using the computer for?

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In Gaming the CPU isn't really a big deal it just needs to be fast enough to handle the GPU, if you intend to do some kind of video editing, streaming, a decent core count CPU is a good idea. Like 8 or more

onyx sapphire Jul 18, 2020, 10:10 PM

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what cpu do i buy

earnest rose Jul 18, 2020, 10:10 PM

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a loaf of bred

vapid crypt Jul 18, 2020, 10:54 PM

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Need more info PirateSimon

clear quartz Jul 19, 2020, 10:13 AM

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yes

abstract kite Jul 19, 2020, 3:56 PM

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Question. I am at a crossroads here. My friend is building a new PC and asking for advice. We're hung up on three potential cases those being: Rosewill Specta C100-A, NZXT H510B-W1, and Thermaltake V200.

At first we were going to go with the NZXT, but we're worried about potential Thermal Problems due to only two 120mm vents for case fans.

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Or would you recommend other cases?

vapid crypt Jul 19, 2020, 5:31 PM

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Well for sure forget about the rosewill case, that's basically the same case walmart used in their pcs

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Thermally awful

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There's pretty much no space for those fans to pull air from

fleet canopy Jul 19, 2020, 5:32 PM

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The H510/H500 are neat

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The V200 I'm not too sure about

vapid crypt Jul 19, 2020, 5:33 PM

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The V200 looks like it actually gets some venting on the side

fleet canopy Jul 19, 2020, 5:33 PM

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Oh? Then sounds fair enough

vapid crypt Jul 19, 2020, 5:34 PM

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Hmm actually I only looked at a thumbnail glance, but it seems there's a mesh version of the rosewill case

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Okay I mistook the case for a different one

fleet canopy Jul 19, 2020, 5:35 PM

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kek

vapid crypt Jul 19, 2020, 5:35 PM

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Of the three, the rosewill case looks like it will be the most thermally effective

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I guess just keep in mind that case only allows for 160mm cooler clearance, so going for air cooling doesn't allow for the bigger air coolers

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The NZXT one kind of does, its 165; that'll fit some of them

abstract kite Jul 19, 2020, 5:41 PM

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What case would you recommend? I checked the H500 and it's almost $250 lmao

fleet canopy Jul 19, 2020, 5:41 PM

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lol that can't be true

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Look for it elsewhere

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Ok jfc

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Wait nvm

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Some shitty OW case

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Alright then

abstract kite Jul 19, 2020, 5:42 PM

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vapid crypt Jul 19, 2020, 5:43 PM

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Well what's the top budget?

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The three cases you said earlier were all $60 - $80

abstract kite Jul 19, 2020, 5:44 PM

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VNB23RZ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_IzifFbT8NSMPG

vapid crypt Jul 19, 2020, 5:45 PM

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Corsair what the fuck is that front panel?

abstract kite Jul 19, 2020, 5:45 PM

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I'm gonna say $60 - $120

vapid crypt Jul 19, 2020, 5:46 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/black-fractal-design-meshify-c-tg-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811352084

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Meshify C is a good one

abstract kite Jul 19, 2020, 5:46 PM

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That front panel contains 3 120mm fans or 240mm fans with a mesh on it

vapid crypt Jul 19, 2020, 5:47 PM

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Honestly, I wouldn't be concerned with fans that come with the case

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HC782D5

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There's 5 quality fans for less than $40 PirateSimon

abstract kite Jul 19, 2020, 5:50 PM

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Ooo

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That looks nice

fleet canopy Jul 19, 2020, 5:50 PM

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Yes

abstract kite Jul 19, 2020, 5:50 PM

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Hmm

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😒

fleet canopy Jul 19, 2020, 5:51 PM

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o:

vapid crypt Jul 19, 2020, 7:43 PM

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More Zen leaks and release date I think https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVTDlukdSgI

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Just realized they're for specifically renoir, the APUs

fleet canopy Jul 19, 2020, 7:46 PM

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The generic foam background

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Quite a classic among people

vapid crypt Jul 19, 2020, 7:50 PM

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Looking like the 4700G might be the GOAT value processor

#

I don't have a price, but I expect it to be cheaper than the 4800X

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Its launching in 2 days apparently?

fleet canopy Jul 19, 2020, 7:51 PM

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Considering I've seen APUs for a little more expensive than CPUs that are similar/more performance with same/less price

vapid crypt Jul 19, 2020, 7:52 PM

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Okay its gonna be $289

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Yeah that's pretty good

#

Cheaper than the msrp of the 3700X

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I know the 3700X is cheaper now but its launch price was $329

fleet canopy Jul 19, 2020, 7:57 PM

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Yeah

abstract kite Jul 19, 2020, 8:12 PM

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Speaking of...

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https://www.amazon.com/ASRock-B550-PRO4-Processors-Motherboard/dp/B089W2ZTHF/ref=sr_1_11?dchild=1&keywords=b550+motherboard&qid=1595132590&s=electronics&sr=1-11

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B550 looks pretty nice

fleet canopy Jul 19, 2020, 8:14 PM

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Looks like the Taichi

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Kinda

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But that price is a killer

abstract kite Jul 19, 2020, 8:14 PM

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Taichi?

vapid crypt Jul 19, 2020, 8:14 PM

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I would maybe consider avoiding Asrock's lower tier motherboards

fleet canopy Jul 19, 2020, 8:14 PM

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Asrock X570 taichi

vapid crypt Jul 19, 2020, 8:15 PM

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Like their Pro and Gaming 4 or whatever

abstract kite Jul 19, 2020, 8:15 PM

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But I thought the B550 series was newer?

vapid crypt Jul 19, 2020, 8:15 PM

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There's a B550 Taichi as well actually

fleet canopy Jul 19, 2020, 8:15 PM

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B550 is new, but some are stupid

vapid crypt Jul 19, 2020, 8:15 PM

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And it is newer, but its a lower tier chipset

fleet canopy Jul 19, 2020, 8:15 PM

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If it's dumb, you're better off getting a B450 or X570

vapid crypt Jul 19, 2020, 8:15 PM

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Though its basically just cutdown X570

abstract kite Jul 19, 2020, 8:16 PM

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But the 570 is expensive, no?

vapid crypt Jul 19, 2020, 8:16 PM

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Nah don't get B450 anymore

#

Right now the difference isn't that big comparing quality boards

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When it comes to price

fleet canopy Jul 19, 2020, 8:16 PM

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Maybe

vapid crypt Jul 19, 2020, 8:17 PM

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Like the Tomahawk boards B550 vs X570 they're probably very similar the price differnce is like $40 or something

fleet canopy Jul 19, 2020, 8:17 PM

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Just gotta look for reviews by people like GamersNexus or Pauls Hardware maybe for how good those B550 perform

vapid crypt Jul 19, 2020, 8:17 PM

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But yeah you can expect decent B550 starting at about $150

#

A lot of the VRMs are overtaking the cheaper X570 boards

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Even the TUF

abstract kite Jul 19, 2020, 8:19 PM

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That's a TUF break... My friend was gonna get that board for their new build.

fleet canopy Jul 19, 2020, 8:19 PM

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kek

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Guess they're not so TUF anymore against those B550

vapid crypt Jul 19, 2020, 8:19 PM

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The TUF is good... except for the arbitrary restrictions Asus have on them to make ROG look better

fleet canopy Jul 19, 2020, 8:19 PM

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Like what for example?

vapid crypt Jul 19, 2020, 8:20 PM

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They limit certain overclocking options apparently

fleet canopy Jul 19, 2020, 8:20 PM

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Oof

vapid crypt Jul 19, 2020, 8:20 PM

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Things that you would find from other board makers on similar or cheaper priced options too

abstract kite Jul 19, 2020, 8:23 PM

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Well I'm back to square 1 now. I need a board that is good for general purpose, gaming and light rendering

vapid crypt Jul 19, 2020, 8:24 PM

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There's a lot of boards out of stock unfortunately

abstract kite Jul 19, 2020, 8:24 PM

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The 3700X CPU would be perfect, but I don't have a board lol

vapid crypt Jul 19, 2020, 8:24 PM

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Hmm

fleet canopy Jul 19, 2020, 8:24 PM

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ASUS TUF X570 for a 200$ price tag, it's something alright at least

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Might be 180$ now iirc

abstract kite Jul 19, 2020, 8:25 PM

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That price is a TUF pill to swallow...

vapid crypt Jul 19, 2020, 8:26 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-b550-aorus-elite/p/N82E16813145214

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If I recall correctly, this one has the same VRM as the Aorus Master

fleet canopy Jul 19, 2020, 8:26 PM

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I mean, those choices can be TUF, but they'r efine I guess

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I'd recommend that too yeah

vapid crypt Jul 19, 2020, 8:26 PM

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A $700 board

fleet canopy Jul 19, 2020, 8:26 PM

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That one's good

abstract kite Jul 19, 2020, 8:26 PM

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$700....

fleet canopy Jul 19, 2020, 8:26 PM

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The master is 280$ yikes

vapid crypt Jul 19, 2020, 8:27 PM

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Or not Master I forgot its name phaWesker

fleet canopy Jul 19, 2020, 8:27 PM

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Aorus Extreme?

vapid crypt Jul 19, 2020, 8:27 PM

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That might be it yeah

fleet canopy Jul 19, 2020, 8:27 PM

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Exxxtremeeeee VRMs

vapid crypt Jul 19, 2020, 8:27 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813145197

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Wow phaWesker

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Oh I guess that's Z490 but whatever

fleet canopy Jul 19, 2020, 8:28 PM

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lol

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That's just the newer boards though

vapid crypt Jul 19, 2020, 8:28 PM

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Same level of price

fleet canopy Jul 19, 2020, 8:28 PM

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Compared to Elite, it's 600$ difference

abstract kite Jul 19, 2020, 8:29 PM

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Its a 3/3 or 100% so its good right? KEKW

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fleet canopy Jul 19, 2020, 8:30 PM

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kek

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Only 2 more to hit 5

vapid crypt Jul 19, 2020, 8:30 PM

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abstract kite Jul 19, 2020, 8:30 PM

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Yeah I'm not paying $400-$700 for a motherboard.

fleet canopy Jul 19, 2020, 8:31 PM

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lol

vapid crypt Jul 19, 2020, 8:31 PM

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Well I wasn't recommending that PirateSimon

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https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-b550-aorus-elite/p/N82E16813145214

fleet canopy Jul 19, 2020, 8:31 PM

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What?

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So is it like

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Just the color on it oorrrr?

vapid crypt Jul 19, 2020, 8:32 PM

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Uh yes he gave it a 1 egg cause of a cosmetic fault

fleet canopy Jul 19, 2020, 8:32 PM

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lol

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I have to wonder how I have 7.1GB being used up

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Guess that's mostly Discord, Spotify, Steam

abstract kite Jul 19, 2020, 8:34 PM

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I am almost at a constant state of 15GB of RAM

fleet canopy Jul 19, 2020, 8:35 PM

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lmao

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What's that from?

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Donate 2TB ssd pls

abstract kite Jul 19, 2020, 8:35 PM

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Fuck if I know. I wouldn't be surprised it is Chroma.

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Just so I am clear

#

You are recommending that Aorus B550?

vapid crypt Jul 19, 2020, 8:39 PM

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Yes indeed

abstract kite Jul 19, 2020, 8:39 PM

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I could also wait and preorder

vapid crypt Jul 19, 2020, 8:39 PM

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preorder what?

abstract kite Jul 19, 2020, 8:40 PM

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Like on Amazon sometimes they say you can buy something, however it will ship out on x date when it's back in stock.

vapid crypt Jul 19, 2020, 8:41 PM

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I suppose you could do that, for what board?

abstract kite Jul 19, 2020, 8:42 PM

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Unsure. If the B550 Series is garbage then I can look at something else.

vapid crypt Jul 19, 2020, 8:42 PM

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It isn't garbage though

abstract kite Jul 19, 2020, 8:43 PM

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But you said the board I had to begin with was a lower chip set then the X570 Boards.

vapid crypt Jul 19, 2020, 8:43 PM

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The chipset is lower, but that doesn't mean the overall quality is lower

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X570 just generally has more features

#

B550 is literally cut down X570

abstract kite Jul 19, 2020, 8:44 PM

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But its also more expensive

vapid crypt Jul 19, 2020, 8:44 PM

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More expensive relative to what?

fleet canopy Jul 19, 2020, 8:44 PM

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General price, yes

vapid crypt Jul 19, 2020, 8:44 PM

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Cause there are some trash X570 boards at sub $200

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Especially from MSI

fleet canopy Jul 19, 2020, 8:44 PM

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But if you removed some features of X570, bum, it would really be lower priced

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Which becomes your B550

vapid crypt Jul 19, 2020, 8:45 PM

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B550 they learned their lesson

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Give people quality VRMs

fleet canopy Jul 19, 2020, 8:45 PM

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I guess the B550 is basically just sacrifice features for some things that are more improved

abstract kite Jul 19, 2020, 8:46 PM

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Looks like I need a new board my B450 Tomohawk is bad...

sick reef Jul 19, 2020, 8:46 PM

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Generally, you just sacrifice features for price.

vapid crypt Jul 19, 2020, 8:46 PM

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Uh what?

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What's wrong with your Tomahawk?

abstract kite Jul 19, 2020, 8:46 PM

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Nothing but that is a B450?

fleet canopy Jul 19, 2020, 8:46 PM

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B450 Tomahawk is epic

abstract kite Jul 19, 2020, 8:46 PM

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I'm confused

vapid crypt Jul 19, 2020, 8:46 PM

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Its really decent for the money

fleet canopy Jul 19, 2020, 8:47 PM

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It's perfectly fine for now, if you already have it

vapid crypt Jul 19, 2020, 8:47 PM

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I wouldn't get it now though since B550 is out, even with the price increase its well worth it being guaranteed for Zen 3 and PCIe4 support

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B450 will get some beta support for Zen 3, but its 1 way and if something goes wrong that's a bricked board without recourse

abstract kite Jul 19, 2020, 8:48 PM

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Not to mention the B550 is cheaper the the 450 at this point.... Funny...

fleet canopy Jul 19, 2020, 8:48 PM

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Nah I wouldn't say so

vapid crypt Jul 19, 2020, 8:48 PM

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Well that's just cause they've stopped making it

fleet canopy Jul 19, 2020, 8:48 PM

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Oh

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Well maybe yeah

vapid crypt Jul 19, 2020, 8:49 PM

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Though B450 Max I think they're still making it

fleet canopy Jul 19, 2020, 8:49 PM

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The B450 at this point are being ditched because people are gonna have to make a move to newer boards sooner or later

vapid crypt Jul 19, 2020, 8:49 PM

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And that might have native support for Zen 3 since it has a big enough bios chip

abstract kite Jul 19, 2020, 8:49 PM

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@fleet canopy the 450 is about $210 marked up

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Price gouging at its finest

fleet canopy Jul 19, 2020, 8:51 PM

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I mean

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The 1080 Ti did just that when it got cut off from production

vapid crypt Jul 19, 2020, 8:52 PM

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The mining craze was just about dying down too

fleet canopy Jul 19, 2020, 8:52 PM

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Thank god for that

vapid crypt Jul 19, 2020, 8:53 PM

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Nvidia has been saying they're expecting another mining boom, but I just take that as wishful thinking

abstract kite Jul 19, 2020, 8:53 PM

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So I should sell my B450 for $300? KEKW

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Its a collectors item

vapid crypt Jul 19, 2020, 8:53 PM

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They just want to justify selling 3080 tis for $1500

fleet canopy Jul 19, 2020, 8:53 PM

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lol a collector's item?

abstract kite Jul 19, 2020, 8:53 PM

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Some one would buy it.

vapid crypt Jul 19, 2020, 8:54 PM

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Uh, probably not actually

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Those price gouged boards are sealed in box

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A used one, no one could justify buying

abstract kite Jul 19, 2020, 8:55 PM

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People buy videos of a girl acting like a dog for $1,200. What's the difference here? XD

vapid crypt Jul 19, 2020, 8:55 PM

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Alright so this is a false equivalency

abstract kite Jul 19, 2020, 8:55 PM

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Meh

vapid crypt Jul 19, 2020, 8:55 PM

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One is gouging tech, the other is degeneracy PirateSimon

fleet canopy Jul 19, 2020, 8:55 PM

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Yes

abstract kite Jul 19, 2020, 8:55 PM

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Same difference

fleet canopy Jul 19, 2020, 8:55 PM

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One is superior power

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The other is just some dumb shit we chads don't care for

abstract kite Jul 19, 2020, 8:56 PM

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XD

vapid crypt Jul 19, 2020, 8:56 PM

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ConfusedUlf

abstract kite Jul 19, 2020, 9:12 PM

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Lol no.

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Anywho I really like these Case Fans you sent, El.

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Only problem is that they don't have RGB

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HC782D5

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ACry

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But it look pretty

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I forgot to dim the lights of my LL120 Fans and made it really hard to sleep xD

fleet canopy Jul 19, 2020, 9:18 PM

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Some RGB is cool

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Too much RGB poopoo

abstract kite Jul 19, 2020, 9:20 PM

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I really like that Metro Exodus takes over my ICUE Software

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On Hardcore it really is a life saver because your fans lights tell you if you are in a dark spot xD

fleet canopy Jul 19, 2020, 9:21 PM

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What's it do

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You can use the light to know if you're in a dark spot

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On the watch

abstract kite Jul 19, 2020, 9:21 PM

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I know

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But in the heat of battle

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Idk

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XD

fleet canopy Jul 19, 2020, 9:22 PM

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lel

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I guess it just reminds you?

abstract kite Jul 19, 2020, 9:22 PM

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It does

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I feel bad still. There was a child of the forest, for the love it fuck I didn't hear him coming we both turn the corner, scared the shit out of me and I dommed him.

fleet canopy Jul 19, 2020, 9:24 PM

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oof

vapid crypt Jul 19, 2020, 9:43 PM

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So I have basic RGB strips in my Pc, that's all the lighting. All my fans are non rgb, it conveys a pretty basic but aesthetically pleasing appearance. Course that's what I personally like, the Artic p12 fans are amazing performers for the money; especially that 5 pack. Even has a splitter on each fan so you can chain the fans together

fleet canopy Jul 19, 2020, 10:16 PM

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This is a tech channel, not a sponsor channel

vapid crypt Jul 19, 2020, 10:21 PM

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Who's sponsoring shit in our sacred channel ConfusedUlf

onyx sapphire Jul 20, 2020, 1:26 AM

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sponsor

vapid crypt Jul 20, 2020, 2:22 AM

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3080ti sample leaks, looking underwhelming? phaSheva https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMMm9nHFe0Y