#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk | GTFO | Page 131

brisk badger Jul 13, 2020, 2:56 PM

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Not ware that risc itself means something

rugged shuttle Jul 13, 2020, 2:56 PM

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risc-v has a long long long way to go

brisk badger Jul 13, 2020, 2:58 PM

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Till then the market is invaded by chinese x86 cpus? Curious if countries will allow selling them😂

rugged shuttle Jul 13, 2020, 2:58 PM

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?

abstract kite Jul 13, 2020, 2:59 PM

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Good morning

vapid crypt Jul 13, 2020, 2:59 PM

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There's always a price, but it depends if anyone even wants to do business with China

rugged shuttle Jul 13, 2020, 2:59 PM

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everyone wants to do business with china, just now they aren't allowed to

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amd tried their very hardest to get around it by licensing zen to hygon in some roundabout way but even that got stopped

brisk badger Jul 13, 2020, 3:02 PM

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I do think that western countries will forbid cpu's from chinese companies. Creating backdoors in chips can be tricky to find

rugged shuttle Jul 13, 2020, 3:03 PM

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what chinese cpus are you talking about

brisk badger Jul 13, 2020, 3:03 PM

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I think they released some potato 8 core cpus recently

vapid crypt Jul 13, 2020, 3:03 PM

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Don't Intel CPUs have a internal processor that function as some kind of backdoor?

brisk badger Jul 13, 2020, 3:03 PM

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Dont remember the brand but they have some chip companies

rugged shuttle Jul 13, 2020, 3:04 PM

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intel management engine baby

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amd also has a similar technology in their x86 chips, platform security processor

brisk badger Jul 13, 2020, 3:04 PM

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Zhaoxin KaiXian its called

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The reason why the russian government does not use intel or amd😋

vapid crypt Jul 13, 2020, 3:07 PM

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Do they make their own chips and run the computers on windows XP? phaWesker

rugged shuttle Jul 13, 2020, 3:08 PM

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do you uh have a source on that

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i can't imagine they have a viable alternative

brisk badger Jul 13, 2020, 3:09 PM

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They do have their own processors. Not sure what OS they using

rugged shuttle Jul 13, 2020, 3:09 PM

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i will take that as source: dude trust me

vapid crypt Jul 13, 2020, 3:10 PM

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That's my favorite source

brisk badger Jul 13, 2020, 3:10 PM

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MCST

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Gimme time i am on mobile

vapid crypt Jul 13, 2020, 3:11 PM

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I could believe Russia making their own chips, I don't care if its true but it sounds plausible at least

brisk badger Jul 13, 2020, 3:11 PM

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They do make their own chips

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Talking about public institutions. Privately they can use whatever they want

vapid crypt Jul 13, 2020, 3:12 PM

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Right, yeah I understood that

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Since you said it was the government that doesn't use intel or amd

brisk badger Jul 13, 2020, 3:13 PM

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I mean it makes sense for them not using intel or amd, even arm

rugged shuttle Jul 13, 2020, 3:14 PM

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oh ho ho they even have their own isa

brisk badger Jul 13, 2020, 3:17 PM

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They use two instruction set. Why that is, no clue. Probably not much info available

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Nvm the company develops two

rugged shuttle Jul 13, 2020, 3:18 PM

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they use their own isa, elbrus, which also has an x86 abstraction layer

brisk badger Jul 13, 2020, 3:18 PM

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And seems to perform terribad😜

rugged shuttle Jul 13, 2020, 3:18 PM

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looks reasonable actually

brisk badger Jul 13, 2020, 3:19 PM

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They also use SPARC but unsure if the Elbrus cpu runs it

vapid crypt Jul 13, 2020, 3:19 PM

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For what they probably use it for and how much it costs to make, its probably fine

rugged shuttle Jul 13, 2020, 3:19 PM

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they dont seem to make sparc cpus anymore

brisk badger Jul 13, 2020, 3:20 PM

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Oh okay. Yea demonio

vapid crypt Jul 13, 2020, 3:20 PM

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28nm TSMC, that's gotta be dirt cheap now

brisk badger Jul 13, 2020, 3:20 PM

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But one russian dev must have asked: can it run crysis?

vapid crypt Jul 13, 2020, 3:22 PM

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Nah, they asked if it can run Stalker

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That's the only thing that matters phaWesker

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And I'm sure it certainly could

brisk badger Jul 13, 2020, 3:23 PM

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Good one 😋 (and good game)

vapid crypt Jul 13, 2020, 3:25 PM

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Ever wanted to see a couple Russians try to vodka cool a pc to play Stalker? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSUbgzlZcZE

jade ermine Jul 13, 2020, 5:34 PM

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So i found a good deal on one monitor and i might have just pulled the trigger on it for no reason ReversedConfusedUlf

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Acer XV273KP for 399€

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Let's see how i like 16:9 after years of 21:9

stoic tree Jul 13, 2020, 5:58 PM

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can anyone help with the performance of this game

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most games i play on high at 60 frames

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but GTFO even with all the stats on low i can get solid 60 frames

lucid basalt Jul 13, 2020, 6:20 PM

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@abstract kite im not positive but part of it might be that quantity of enemies being rendered along with the consistency of it
Are you having that issue overall or just when the waves are happening

rugged shuttle Jul 13, 2020, 6:42 PM

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anyone here got an rx 5700xt and a 3700x or similar? i am getting 100~ frames on my box with high settings under wine, and i'm wondering what people are getting in native windows

vapid crypt Jul 13, 2020, 6:43 PM

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What resolution?

rugged shuttle Jul 13, 2020, 6:43 PM

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1080p

vapid crypt Jul 13, 2020, 6:44 PM

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I don't have similar specs, but for perspective I probably average like 80 - 90, dips to below 60 at times when enemy waves spawn with an R5 2600 and an RX 580 on Windows 10

rugged shuttle Jul 13, 2020, 6:45 PM

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i see i see

fleet canopy Jul 13, 2020, 6:46 PM

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I don’t think they’re too sided with anything, just not too optimized with each GPU/CPU

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So it’ll vary I assume

vapid crypt Jul 13, 2020, 6:47 PM

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In this case its a matter of how the game performs on linux through wine

rugged shuttle Jul 13, 2020, 6:47 PM

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yeah, trying to see what other peeps on similar hardware are getting without having to actually install windows myself

fleet canopy Jul 13, 2020, 6:48 PM

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Should run fairly better than on Windows 10 at least

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LTT did a test with Win 10 vs Linux through some program for steam games, tested out both and Linux seemed to perform fairly better

rugged shuttle Jul 13, 2020, 6:49 PM

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it varies greatly

vapid crypt Jul 13, 2020, 6:49 PM

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They didn't test GTFO though, let alone any other Unity game at least I doubt they did

rugged shuttle Jul 13, 2020, 6:49 PM

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but generally, vulkan games are on par under wine, whereas d3d games can take a hit

fleet canopy Jul 13, 2020, 6:49 PM

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I would assume it should perform similarly

vapid crypt Jul 13, 2020, 6:50 PM

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There's also uh what's that called through Steam...

rugged shuttle Jul 13, 2020, 6:50 PM

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proton, that is what i am using

vapid crypt Jul 13, 2020, 6:50 PM

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Oh right

rugged shuttle Jul 13, 2020, 6:50 PM

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steam itself is actually pretty unusable in wine

lucid basalt Jul 13, 2020, 7:05 PM

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I built my rig 7 years ago and run the game at max settings sticking at 100 frames until combat where it can dip to 65ish
Cpu i5 4690k
Gpu gtx 1070

If youre unsure where you gpu or cpu stands, check the usage charts in details of task manager while the game is running for anything capping out, and then refer to a higherarchy chart for parts like the one from tomshardware (i dont buy through that site. Just a reference of scale)

rugged shuttle Jul 13, 2020, 7:06 PM

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again this is me trying to compare running in native windows to running in proton on linux

lucid basalt Jul 13, 2020, 7:07 PM

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My post was with regards to questions I have been answering for people in DMs all afternoon. Hopefully to help people when im not paying attention

rugged shuttle Jul 13, 2020, 7:07 PM

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i see

vapid crypt Jul 13, 2020, 7:08 PM

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#system-specs PirateSimon

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Its a common thing for people to come to this channel wondering how the game will run/if they can run it when there's already a channel that tells you what kind of specs you should expect for minimum optimal performance. Which would be the recommended specs pretty much

lucid basalt Jul 13, 2020, 7:09 PM

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You would be surprised how many people can read system specs but wont know where their gpu or cpu stands compared to others.

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Most of the time its a gpu that they think is higher than it is because of the # in the name

vapid crypt Jul 13, 2020, 7:10 PM

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Sure, like thinking a GT 1030 must be faster than a GTX 970

lucid basalt Jul 13, 2020, 7:10 PM

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But its not

vapid crypt Jul 13, 2020, 7:10 PM

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There's probably a couple of people that initially thought that

fleet canopy Jul 13, 2020, 7:10 PM

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Kek I used to think that too when I was a newbie

lucid basalt Jul 13, 2020, 7:11 PM

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Yea and thats fair. Especially if you havent gotten into building computers before

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Thats why i tossed the tomshardware site name out there. The higherarchy chart for gpu and for cpu are very valuable resources when youre a noob trying to see what parts to get

shy mural Jul 13, 2020, 7:12 PM

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Does this game run on linux

lucid basalt Jul 13, 2020, 7:12 PM

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PcPartpicker is also good but more well known and I use it to make sure everything speaks to eachother before i finalise

rugged shuttle Jul 13, 2020, 7:13 PM

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i have not encontered a single bug running it with proton on linux, but it isn't officially supported @shy mural

fleet canopy Jul 13, 2020, 7:13 PM

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I pretty much go to pcpp more than I should

shy mural Jul 13, 2020, 7:13 PM

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Sweet, thanks man fat Pete out

fleet canopy Jul 13, 2020, 7:14 PM

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Well I’ve stopped now that I’ve got my 2070 Super and recently got my 3700X and 3200Mhz 32GB, I still am waiting on motherboard which arrives today or tomorrow

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I still run a 7700K with 16GB 2400MHz

rugged shuttle Jul 13, 2020, 7:15 PM

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i got a 2666 kit that runs perfectly at 3200

vapid crypt Jul 13, 2020, 7:16 PM

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At what Cas?

lucid basalt Jul 13, 2020, 7:16 PM

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3700x is a very good cpu for the $ for gaming

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If youre talking ryzen 7

fleet canopy Jul 13, 2020, 7:17 PM

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I got it for future proof

vapid crypt Jul 13, 2020, 7:17 PM

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As its turning out, its dropped to $260

rugged shuttle Jul 13, 2020, 7:17 PM

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my timings are 16-18-18-38 i think

vapid crypt Jul 13, 2020, 7:17 PM

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I got my RAM at 3200 with 15-17-17-36

rugged shuttle Jul 13, 2020, 7:17 PM

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cool cool

jade ermine Jul 13, 2020, 7:18 PM

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@fleet canopy did i already brag about getting new monitor for you too

vapid crypt Jul 13, 2020, 7:18 PM

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Err no not 15 14

fleet canopy Jul 13, 2020, 7:18 PM

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I found the 32GB kit for 110$, which was pretty epic considering it’s also CAS16

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Kek

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The only real bottleneck is my monitor

rugged shuttle Jul 13, 2020, 7:18 PM

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ryzen dram calc unfortunately does not work under wine and i cannot be bothered manually tweaking it

lucid basalt Jul 13, 2020, 7:18 PM

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Btw thought id toss it out there.
If you are running your games on 1080p (reg high def) and you get a gpu, do not get more tha you need

vapid crypt Jul 13, 2020, 7:18 PM

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Yeah that dram calculator is really useful

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Might not be a bad idea to contact the guy that makes it for Linux support

rugged shuttle Jul 13, 2020, 7:19 PM

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bahaha that would not be easy to port

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dont think they'd bother

vapid crypt Jul 13, 2020, 7:19 PM

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I suppose it wouldn't, but you never know

fleet canopy Jul 13, 2020, 7:19 PM

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I’m still planning to get a 1440p 144hz. I’ve also had the consideration of 1080p 144-240Hz, I’ll just have to see how it goes

jade ermine Jul 13, 2020, 7:20 PM

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https://www.acer.com/ac/en/SI/content/model/UM.HX3EE.P09 Arrives thursday or friday

fleet canopy Jul 13, 2020, 7:20 PM

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Nice phone

lucid basalt Jul 13, 2020, 7:21 PM

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If you go with 1080p dont get a gpu stronger than a 1080 ti (no not because the numbers match >.<)

fleet canopy Jul 13, 2020, 7:21 PM

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1080 Ti is such a gamer

lucid basalt Jul 13, 2020, 7:21 PM

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That being said though. On sites like newegg the 1080ti is almost as much as a 2080ti right now because the 1080 tis were discontinued

fleet canopy Jul 13, 2020, 7:21 PM

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Nah they still go for 400$

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Fuck Newegg they suck ass at prices

lucid basalt Jul 13, 2020, 7:22 PM

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I did qualify my statement but yea

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I also will not buy a used computer part. Never.

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I have large trust issues

fleet canopy Jul 13, 2020, 7:23 PM

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I pretty much go for new always, I only buy considering the prices as well as what website like Amazon or Newegg or whatever

lucid basalt Jul 13, 2020, 7:24 PM

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But yea 1080 ti is a monster. And it will max your yield for 1080p gaming forever basically

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Only need to go past for ray tracing 2k and 4k

fleet canopy Jul 13, 2020, 7:24 PM

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Or 1440p 144Hz

lucid basalt Jul 13, 2020, 7:25 PM

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The hz can be obtained p much on any resolution thats just the refresh rate (how many fps the monitor actually displays)

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But yea. 1080p is 1080ti and that r7 3700x is a safe future proof buy to last at least 7 years or so

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Maybe more depending on hardware lifespan

fleet canopy Jul 13, 2020, 7:27 PM

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I wonder when we have to make our own components to build a pc GWjiangoOmegaLUL

lucid basalt Jul 13, 2020, 7:28 PM

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The ring is there for the engineer meme right?

vapid crypt Jul 13, 2020, 7:54 PM

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1080ti is an absolute unit, and it very well may last another console generation as long as you're only doing 1080p. Though we shall see; DX 12 Ultimate might be the most prevalent API and I don't think Pascal in general will last as long as that becomes the dominant API

rugged shuttle Jul 13, 2020, 8:17 PM

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vulkan better become the dominant api I think I will cry if it does not

vapid crypt Jul 13, 2020, 8:50 PM

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Well I would prefer that, but that really depends

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Cause here's the thing, with DX 12 ultimate we're looking at the hot new innovation in graphics with real time ray tracing. Now I think its too early to care about it entirely, but its what the consoles will be using pretty much

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And that will unfortunately effect PC

rugged shuttle Jul 13, 2020, 9:05 PM

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vulkan has supported raytracing since before dx12

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early nvidia raytracing demos used vulkan, as dx12 did not yet support it

vapid crypt Jul 13, 2020, 9:48 PM

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I see, still its unfortunate that it will most likely be overtaken by DirectX but you know

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Microsoft is gonna Microsoft

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Or Microshaft as my buddy likes to call em phaWesker

terse remnant Jul 14, 2020, 4:10 AM

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need some assistance

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my laptop still has a massive cooling issue, even after cleaning the fans and applying new thermal paste

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acer nitro 5 laptop

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gpu temp is fine

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only the cpu overheats

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is undervolting safe?

vapid crypt Jul 14, 2020, 4:35 AM

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Are you sure the fans are working?

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Well specifically the fan for the CPU

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Also SELL YOUR 2080 TI phaWesker

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zJL99lb7F4

abstract kite Jul 14, 2020, 5:27 AM

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@terse remnant have you considered a cooling pad? You plug it in to a USB Port and sit your Laptop on it.

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 6:07 AM

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For a moment, I was thinking "Did he actually fucking order a 2080 Ti?"

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 7:15 AM

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Oh no, line us is wrong https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuSJ5k1orBk

brisk badger Jul 14, 2020, 8:45 AM

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not a fan of linus but still agree with him

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 9:02 AM

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It's kind of ridiculous, but you're paying for like movie studio stuff, and Linus has loads of ways to have the camera work just like what Corridor showed

dense wasp Jul 14, 2020, 9:31 AM

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I don't want to sell my 2080ti 😦

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 9:31 AM

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Sell your 2080 ti or else GWworkshopMeguGun

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kek

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No shame in keeping it though

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It's still very good anyways

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But you could always sell it for a bit under MSRP, like 800-900$ and buy their 3080/3080 Ti

dense wasp Jul 14, 2020, 9:33 AM

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I'm also not really allowed to sell it

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I'd have to peel off the "not for reselling" stick on them 😛

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 9:33 AM

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Oh? So you can't really sell a 2080 Ti?

dense wasp Jul 14, 2020, 9:34 AM

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Naw we got ours from Nvidia

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 9:34 AM

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Ah makes sense

dense wasp Jul 14, 2020, 9:34 AM

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so they are not retail

slim kite Jul 14, 2020, 9:34 AM

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catshrug

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 9:34 AM

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So you can still return it for a price, or no?

dense wasp Jul 14, 2020, 9:34 AM

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na, got as in for free

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 9:34 AM

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Oh yeah I remember now

dense wasp Jul 14, 2020, 9:34 AM

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cheeky buggers wanting money for free stuff

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:D

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"remember the cards you sent us for free? now pay me to send them back to you!"

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 9:40 AM

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So I've seen a website pop up on Facebook too much, I decided to research it and watch a quick video

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pX5xzQJnsAk

vapid crypt Jul 14, 2020, 10:01 AM

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Well hopefully you guys get free 3080 tis phaWesker

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 10:01 AM

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I mean, they might offer seeing they got a 2080 Ti for free as well

brisk badger Jul 14, 2020, 10:01 AM

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This guy is weird in terms of advocating for buying windows license keys that cost less than 10usd

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 10:01 AM

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Better than more than 30$ for a key

vapid crypt Jul 14, 2020, 10:02 AM

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Its typically around $14

brisk badger Jul 14, 2020, 10:02 AM

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can tell already that 99.999% of people who selling keys for that price have a very shady business practice and the origin of that key; you better not want to know where it's from

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just don't activate those keys in a corporate environment 😋

vapid crypt Jul 14, 2020, 10:02 AM

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I know there has been shady key resellers like on Kinguin and stuff like that

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 10:02 AM

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You better not know where it is, or the illuminati will hunt you down 👀

vapid crypt Jul 14, 2020, 10:03 AM

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Since they're OEM keys it pretty much leaves to the imagination how they were acquired

brisk badger Jul 14, 2020, 10:03 AM

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do you know if they are OEM keys?

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 10:04 AM

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Watching a video sponsored by NordVPN, which only reminds me of the video that tells me that it's pretty much a dumb thing to use at this point

vapid crypt Jul 14, 2020, 10:04 AM

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Yeah they're listed as OEM

brisk badger Jul 14, 2020, 10:04 AM

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so you trust the person selling it

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unless the key code somehow points to the OEM

vapid crypt Jul 14, 2020, 10:06 AM

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Well its like an OEM key from Microsoft right, now I don't know where these key sellers get the keys. I know it was a common thing to rip em from pre-builts and stuff like that. That's certainly a shady thing to do

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And not reliable cause those keys basically deactivate, so I've heard

brisk badger Jul 14, 2020, 10:10 AM

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i don't know how windows keys are being sold for so little, but it could be due to keygenerators and maybe people who have access to volume licenses and simply steal them. If you personally buy a key for little price, i don't care. But if a youtuber is promoting this, then I get triggered. It's also dangerous to people who become entrepeneurs and start their own businesses but don't realize their pc's is full of illegal licenses

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na, micrsoft most likely does not deactivate the stolen keys. customers would just get mad. and what micrsoft really does not want is those people start looking for alternative os's

vapid crypt Jul 14, 2020, 10:13 AM

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So I've heard of people's keys deactivating, specifically those that were purchased from a key selling site like Kinguin

brisk badger Jul 14, 2020, 10:14 AM

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maybe, if it totally goes out of control

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like one person is selling one key to tens or hundreds of users

vapid crypt Jul 14, 2020, 10:14 AM

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Maybe it was a case of a single key going to multiple people

brisk badger Jul 14, 2020, 10:15 AM

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i also bought once a cheap windows key. During activation it said, i need to do the phone call to activate. in other words the key was used already (probably more than 10 times), yet ms let me activate it

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so yea, selling a windows 10 pro for 75usd like those company does; is fair if it's genuine key. I assume it's pretty damn illegal if they would use keys from sites like ebay

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this guy also criticized the FPS the machine can reach saying the site probably uses wrong data
but he has no factual prove that this machine does not perform as stated, just says, he has a tankier machine and higher resolution and he does not manage to get this FPS....

dense wasp Jul 14, 2020, 10:19 AM

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did you see LTS video about the windows licenses ?

brisk badger Jul 14, 2020, 10:20 AM

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i did not. does he explain why keys are so cheap?

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or can be so cheap on some sites

dense wasp Jul 14, 2020, 10:55 AM

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yeah exactly

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still grey-market keys, so more or less as much piracy as when you crack the keys

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they got a bunch of comments on why they pirated keys, when they infact did the opposite, they didn't activate windows at all 😅

brisk badger Jul 14, 2020, 10:57 AM

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hmm so could those keys be generated by some tool? probably for the enduser / customer it's less of a legal issue but those who sell them surely would have trouble

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I don't understand why ebay etc. are continue to allow this

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chances are that some honest person is selling his windows 10 pro key that he no longer uses is... very slim

dense wasp Jul 14, 2020, 11:00 AM

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it's 99% dev-volume licenses

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where they can extract more or less how many keys they want

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for internal dev use

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but they resell them instead

brisk badger Jul 14, 2020, 11:02 AM

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that's blatant lol. Yea I assumed it would be volume license, although not sure. I think the first digits can tell if it's a volume license or not. but maybe that was at times of windows xp

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why does microsoft allow ebay etc. to sell those. I mean ebay and co. make some good money with that

dense wasp Jul 14, 2020, 11:16 AM

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yeah it's... dumb 😄

sick reef Jul 14, 2020, 12:53 PM

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I remember part of a lot of keys was also just dead MB's.

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 1:54 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WebInZUvcGA

brisk badger Jul 14, 2020, 2:02 PM

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if consoles would not exist, games on pc's today would look twice as good than they are now

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 2:03 PM

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Oh?

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But a PC can be a console GWchinaSakuraThinking

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A console is just a PC that has some Sony/Microsoft console OS, with what you could say are PC parts if they were PC parts

brisk badger Jul 14, 2020, 2:04 PM

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sony and microsoft have a lot of money and they care a lot that computer graphics does not advance too fast, because it'll make consoles titles look like 💩

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 2:04 PM

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lol really?

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If they wanted to do this, they'd just let it go brrrr

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Because consoles are getting better in performance nonetheless

brisk badger Jul 14, 2020, 2:05 PM

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of course. you have to understand that engines like unreal or unity etc. may need to support consoles. those always lack behind in terms of performance.

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 2:05 PM

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Aside from them being big stupid idiots for not adding an SSD until like now or a good while ago

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I don't think it's the graphics that they would worry, it'd be more-so how easy it ran

brisk badger Jul 14, 2020, 2:06 PM

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the existence of consoles will not allow graphics to advance as rapid as it would without

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 2:06 PM

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We got DLSS 2.0/3.0 coming in, and it looks way better while also running better than the regular DX12 or RTX

brisk badger Jul 14, 2020, 2:07 PM

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most games are made for pc AND consoles. it drastically limits the freedom of development

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 2:07 PM

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I wouldn't really see any reason not to keep updating graphics on the PC

brisk badger Jul 14, 2020, 2:07 PM

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we probably would have had dlss 5 years ago without consoles

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 2:08 PM

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We have had games looking like shit like Siege for instance, to looking better over the years

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And consoles exist solely because we didn't really have a gaming PC until around 2000-2010 like a Nintendo 64 for instance

brisk badger Jul 14, 2020, 2:09 PM

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sure. i do not deny that.
I just say that consoles hinder (by purpose) development in terms of graphical advancement

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 2:09 PM

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We just had it back then, no reason not to continue having consoles

brisk badger Jul 14, 2020, 2:10 PM

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we can speculate yes. regardless of how popular gaming would, those features could have still been released, just not for the use case of "gaming"

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 2:10 PM

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Really, it's just Microsoft/Sony not really investing into things more better nowadays tbf

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For instance, HDD until PS4 Pro came with SSD ( I think )

brisk badger Jul 14, 2020, 2:11 PM

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why should they, if major engine produces bow to them

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not only games use graphical advancements

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 2:11 PM

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If they wanted better graphics being made, they should have just kept updating it on PC nonetheless

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Because again, you can have a great looking game that runs very smooth without problems

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I wonder why they would be doing the GPU release to console before PC in the first place

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Mm, perhaps

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NVIDIA still needs to take on in some markets

brisk badger Jul 14, 2020, 2:14 PM

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the advancement is purposely made slower by sony and micrsosoft and that is because consoels have a big market share

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so maybe it would have been better if consoles never existed 😋

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 2:14 PM

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They still own the server/workstation side, like their Quadros for instance which will eventually have their RTX 3000 overcome them maybe

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AMD actually can just push Sony/Microsoft to let their games look good

brisk badger Jul 14, 2020, 2:15 PM

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maybe someone made a console as PC and sold it, instead?

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consoles also slow down or did game development, drastically

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just recently sony and microsoft use x86 architecture

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 2:16 PM

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Plus, with the RTX which I am wondering if that would be widely supported at the moment with AMD's RT stuff

brisk badger Jul 14, 2020, 2:16 PM

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so why were the consoles so small? surely because it had crap hardware inside 😛

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 2:16 PM

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Consoles are supposed to be small

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No one wants to lug around a fat box of hardware

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yeah

brisk badger Jul 14, 2020, 2:17 PM

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the first console generation is also a total different scenario

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i am speaking here of ms and sony and their lobby

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 2:18 PM

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Not back then

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Until later in 2010-present

brisk badger Jul 14, 2020, 2:18 PM

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the amount of console players was very little in the 90s

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 2:19 PM

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Maybe not 2010, but eventually when SFF could be done with PCs maybe

brisk badger Jul 14, 2020, 2:23 PM

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while I can't tell you what's going on the parallel universe where we have no consoles, I do not believe that consoles helped with the development of games. It may have speed it up in the early 90s but do you see an immense progress from ~2010 to 2020 in terms of graphical evolution?

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 2:23 PM

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2010 to 2020 improved a shit load

brisk badger Jul 14, 2020, 2:24 PM

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a good example is the newest unreal engine release. It came perfect with the announcement of the new consoles, and to what surpirse; both consoels do support! yea that's great

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compare 2000 to 2010 then

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 2:24 PM

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From being unoptimized to now really good looking games to being optimized

brisk badger Jul 14, 2020, 2:25 PM

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games being optimized... a handful. Most devs still require amd and nvidia to make hotfixes through drivers. so nope, optimization software-wise I disagree

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 2:25 PM

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I'm waiting for the 1440p 144hz IPS monitors to drop to 200$ 👀

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That ain't changing in never

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I'll still put down 400-600$ for a 1440p 144hz VA/IPS anyways

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Oh?

brisk badger Jul 14, 2020, 2:26 PM

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so that means apples, you are okay that since consoles generate a high revenue, they also are allowed to decide the speed of development?

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 2:26 PM

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But 1440p could prove great for us

brisk badger Jul 14, 2020, 2:27 PM

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you may not realize that also (a lot) of moeny is consumed to just adapt software, engines and everything associated to consoles

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 2:27 PM

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And just uhh

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Leave 1080p in the dust unless we still get higher refresh

brisk badger Jul 14, 2020, 2:28 PM

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Well, I am not a pc enthusiast compared to the 95% of people here neither do I care if you play or support consoles

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I just care to let people know what big companies are doing. And people should be mad at them

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 2:28 PM

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For the frame rates really

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Nice ping :)

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But we're gonna overcome the point where it's cheap and easy to run 1440p 144hz

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They still release 1440p monitors however

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Like Samsung's new G7/G9

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It's no good if people keep using 1080p that 1440p becomes worthless

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And 4K is just stupid

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Too expensive to get it anyways

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Not including the cheap crappy 4K really

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4K is for TV entertainment

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Some movie shit

late sorrel Jul 14, 2020, 2:32 PM

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fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 2:32 PM

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Get a small monitor like a scrub

sick reef Jul 14, 2020, 2:32 PM

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Consoles were what PCs originally were, practically.

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Hmm

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 2:33 PM

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Small 4K monitor

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I would def invest in that if it weren't so goddamn expensive

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Small as in monitors you usually find small for their resolution, like 32" 4K

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Not like 2" 4K

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100"

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Ultra HD

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6'

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Hello pixels

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Wait they don't fucking list the 1440p

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Fucking dumbass graph excludes 1440p >:(

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Isn't UHD 1440p anyways

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Because it says 4K, which literally is 2160p

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Ah

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Yeah

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No 1440p

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(4K)

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So it's pretty much

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2160p

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Never included 1440p

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Bum ass image

sick reef Jul 14, 2020, 2:39 PM

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UHD is apparently both 4K and 8K.

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 2:39 PM

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Uhh

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The graph only confuses me

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The graph is fucking horrible

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Get a better one

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1" viewing distance

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Fucking 8K

brisk badger Jul 14, 2020, 2:40 PM

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"The graph only confuses me"

it's in feet AAAAHH

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 2:40 PM

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Wait it is?

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What the fuck?

brisk badger Jul 14, 2020, 2:40 PM

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the second, not first

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 2:40 PM

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Right okay

sick reef Jul 14, 2020, 2:40 PM

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The only inches allowed is diagonal.

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 2:40 PM

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1 feet

sick reef Jul 14, 2020, 2:40 PM

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huhu

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 2:40 PM

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Closest on the list to view on

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And it's listed

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8K

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So if I have a bigger resolution

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I must look very close

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If I have a smaller resolution

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I look farther away

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Past 1080p, it now lists the higher resolutions

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This is just a bad graph

brisk badger Jul 14, 2020, 2:42 PM

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I saw some of ludwig's monitors. Those tiny ones which are powered by USB. I want those

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 2:42 PM

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Those are just console peasant graphs : ) ) )

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So 1 feet away, I look at 8K

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if I go say

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5 feet

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Go 1080p

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Ok thanks

brisk badger Jul 14, 2020, 2:43 PM

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auto-resizing resolution depending on far away you are 🤔

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well also have to take FoV into consideration

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that would be a neat project, if doable

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 2:43 PM

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11 feet away, consider a 1080p 85" monitor

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1 feet away, consider a 85" 8K

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Well to be fair, it's just too far

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But also

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It's a fucking 85-120"

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The graph is just too confusing

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I just dislike it more and more lmao

brisk badger Jul 14, 2020, 2:45 PM

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I am not okay with the last graph. Clearly no anti-aliasing was present. I bet it was made on a console

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 2:45 PM

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No!

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Viewing distanc

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Ok so I'm just pretty stupid

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It's only saying that it will show pixels the closer you get

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Fucking dumb graph with no explaination

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But also

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I just give up

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Still is confusing nonetheless, but makes some more sense now

sick reef Jul 14, 2020, 2:48 PM

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Resizing resolution depending on distance isn't too unfeasible, but making it fluid or smooth doesn't seem feasible. You can just use a distance sensor that you adjust to the face of the person watching the screen, but constantly changing resolutions, assuming you don't just downscale-upscale.

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 2:52 PM

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4K gaming is dumb though 👀

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Unless console

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But still

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That's why I have 2 RTX Quadro 8000 :)

brisk badger Jul 14, 2020, 3:04 PM

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@sick reef i would virtually up- and downscale it. Not saying something like this would be useful

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Would be useful for auto adjust FoV imo but thats not possible with how games work

jade ermine Jul 14, 2020, 3:17 PM

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@abstract kite I get to play around with 27'' 4k monitor soon, I have 1440p screen to compare

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 3:18 PM

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Imagine getting a 27" 4K monitor

jade ermine Jul 14, 2020, 3:20 PM

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price and features were too good to ignore so im trying one out

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 3:20 PM

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Oh? What was the price

jade ermine Jul 14, 2020, 3:21 PM

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IPS 4k 144hz for 399€

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store also has strong return policy

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 3:22 PM

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The fuck

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For around 400 euros

jade ermine Jul 14, 2020, 3:22 PM

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406 delivered

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stonks

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fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 3:22 PM

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How the hell does anyone get that without paying what should be 1000+ lmao

jade ermine Jul 14, 2020, 3:23 PM

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acer xv273kp
this is the model
These released at around 1k and sell normally these days for around 700 euros

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if backlight bleed is not too bad i might just leave it as my secondary monitor tbh

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lol

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 3:24 PM

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Refurbish for 700$

jade ermine Jul 14, 2020, 3:26 PM

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my poor 2080 though GWgoaSadness

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AA off and medium settings here i come

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 3:29 PM

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lel

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Gonna have to go real low for that 144hz

jade ermine Jul 14, 2020, 3:42 PM

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thank god it has freesync

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 3:43 PM

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Thank god freesync is cheaper than Gsync

jade ermine Jul 14, 2020, 3:43 PM

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and funnily, thank god freesync version of the monitor i bought does not have a fan like g-sync one does

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 3:47 PM

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Oh?

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AMD is cool

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NVIDIA hot

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😎

jade ermine Jul 14, 2020, 3:47 PM

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😎

merry bay Jul 14, 2020, 4:39 PM

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4K benefits games with shrubbery or picket fences. An actual advantage on some games, clear motion through teeny-tiny gaps between leaves or thick fences.
e. x. in tarkov

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 4:40 PM

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Yeah, every pixel seems to matter in Tarkov

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Especially the smaller gaps, zooming through

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It makes sniping easier, so you know your sight is on the person

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Whereas, smaller resolution makes it a pain to aim it on the head if they're far enough

merry bay Jul 14, 2020, 4:41 PM

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Now all you need is 4K@120HZ with DP 2.1 and G-Sync/Freesync. Next gen high end cards seem plenty capable of touching 70+fps in most current titles. It's completely within the VRR range

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 4:41 PM

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A video was done by someone testing this, and smaller resolution basically covered every pixel of the body of a person, while 4K showed the body around the dot sight in the middle of the scope you zoom through

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60FPS is all you really need for Tarkov at least

merry bay Jul 14, 2020, 4:42 PM

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The important part about this. You'd be content with such a rig for yeaaaaaars

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 4:42 PM

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Making 4K 144hz is honestly pretty dumb, nothing can really do that without spending 3-4.5K on a PC to run it or something

jade ermine Jul 14, 2020, 4:43 PM

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nothing but wait for ampere

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 4:43 PM

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I don't understand the companies and making TVs at least 95% of the people cannot do

merry bay Jul 14, 2020, 4:43 PM

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Any call of duty you can run at 144Hz with a 1080 Ti @ 4K

lucid basalt Jul 14, 2020, 4:43 PM

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4k doesnt provide a benefit worth the price.

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 4:43 PM

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Only small benefits if you really need more pixels per inch for some reason

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Which for art, sure

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Very close, yeah

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Eyeball to the screen >:)

lucid basalt Jul 14, 2020, 4:44 PM

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Ill get 4k when holograms come out and 4k gets cheaper

jade ermine Jul 14, 2020, 4:44 PM

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good quality catvideos from youtube

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 4:45 PM

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Scary how one day they'll make a monitor that we can't even see a single pixel without using some really good microscope

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At least it'll be cool for VR

merry bay Jul 14, 2020, 4:46 PM

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The only way I'd be able to justify 4K prices personally is the thought of it being pretty much an endgame rig. Not just a thing for 5 years or so. Why would you want to go higher than that. Truly diminishing returns from that point.
Reach that point and you're set(in my eyes)

lucid basalt Jul 14, 2020, 4:46 PM

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Ill never like vr because of the way movement works.
Theyd have to set up an entire location for 1 game with the games layout lazer tag style

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 4:46 PM

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Get 32" then /s

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They'll make a 4K in the size of 24-27"

lucid basalt Jul 14, 2020, 4:47 PM

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@merry bay i build a rig for witcher 3 got 60fps with max setting (minus nvidia hairowkrs) for 1400 and its alive right now 7 years later

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Hardware can and will die regardless of quality, so you can have a system last a long time on a budget

merry bay Jul 14, 2020, 4:48 PM

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It's not pointless. You get superior AA by just bruteforcing more pixels. You don't have to be at retina breaking points. All it means it's good up close AND up far.

lucid basalt Jul 14, 2020, 4:50 PM

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If they want to despite that though thats up to them. I just try to get involved when people might get something less than they would need

jade ermine Jul 14, 2020, 4:50 PM

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Expensiveee

merry bay Jul 14, 2020, 4:51 PM

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Now HDR is something I'm not ready to dish the money for. Barely any games support it and it's still tastes like a beta even with the top tier models.

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Dealing with messy dimming zones just because HDR is enabled around blacks. just ew

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Especially after you pay such a premium

jade ermine Jul 14, 2020, 4:52 PM

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FALD is fine apparently with top end models

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I dont know would i pay that either, Good thing is you can just send it back if its not your jam

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most likely it ends up as my secondary screen

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 4:54 PM

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Hm

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Yeah

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Just better off paying 1440p 144hz if you want

jade ermine Jul 14, 2020, 4:54 PM

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Im going for next gen anyways this year

lucid basalt Jul 14, 2020, 4:55 PM

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Talking about the 3000s from nvidia?

jade ermine Jul 14, 2020, 4:55 PM

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yes sir

merry bay Jul 14, 2020, 4:55 PM

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I'm a firm believer in Big Navi or 3000 series. Probably siding with nvidia for DLSS 2.0
Seems like a very reachable goal.

jade ermine Jul 14, 2020, 4:55 PM

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DLSS 2.0 + ampere GPU is the dream

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hopefully that tech kicks off, Looks promising in control

merry bay Jul 14, 2020, 4:58 PM

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Only thing that kept me from splurging on a 4K monitor so far is the prices still being pretty volatile. But this year finally saw some options with barely any compromises(if you don't aim for HDR)

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 4:59 PM

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4K is a nice option for not heavy games at least

merry bay Jul 14, 2020, 4:59 PM

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and still the idea of whether to go for IPS/VA or wait for OLED to get better.

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the absolute worst would be burning in your golden display

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 5:01 PM

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Oh yeah OLEDs are a thing

merry bay Jul 14, 2020, 5:02 PM

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Today it would be something between 1 and 2 thousand bucks.
But there's also some new panels coming up this year with preorders around 650. Market still being shaken up

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Would love to fast forward a year, maybe two

brisk badger Jul 14, 2020, 5:08 PM

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witcher 3 is already 7 years old? damn. time flies

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 5:08 PM

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Anything that seems recent is old now

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Battlefield 3 being 9 years old

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That was such a major improvement in graphics, looked great

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Aside from the heavy blue tint

merry bay Jul 14, 2020, 5:10 PM

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7 is also the number of platforms Skyrim is released on

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 5:11 PM

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What about GTAV?

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Should be 5 platforms now

#

I now have the motherboard

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Which should have arrived 3 days ago if I didn't have to fix order 3 times

merry bay Jul 14, 2020, 5:12 PM

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Didn't you expect it some friday? Last week? 2 weeks ago?

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 5:13 PM

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Who cares

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It took forever since it didn't order 3 times

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Now I have it

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Now my 3700X and RAM won't be sitting lonely

merry bay Jul 14, 2020, 5:13 PM

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how's the bracket situation

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 5:13 PM

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Didn't pull it out yet, just got it now

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Ah, yes

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"Gaming"

merry bay Jul 14, 2020, 5:14 PM

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think i recall not having AMD mounting for the DRP4

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 5:14 PM

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Oh that

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Didn't find

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I pretty much just gave up at that point

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I'll have to order the AM4 from their site

merry bay Jul 14, 2020, 5:15 PM

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welp, is that what they recommended through contacting them?

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they had some kind of replacement part form

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 5:15 PM

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I mean, it's the only real solution I've found

#

Oh?

merry bay Jul 14, 2020, 5:15 PM

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I dunno if it's a form I didn't fill anything in

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https://www.bequiet.com/en/contact/spareparts

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this thing

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 5:16 PM

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Yeah that thing I only found

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I can't see why it couldn't be one book instead of Russian, Spanish, English, whatever else language in separate books

#

Now I wonder why it made me think of the dumb PS4 ad

merry bay Jul 14, 2020, 5:19 PM

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I'd assume its more efficient for production runs and ship internationally the same package.

#

Occasionally I'd get something that only includes Polish manuals. Kinda reveals where they sourced it from, but most people check online manuals that are more up-to-date anyway.

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Not uncommon for a link in the front of some manuals to suggest looking it up online to be up-to-date

lucid basalt Jul 14, 2020, 5:22 PM

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I love it when a manual is telling you how to do something and before it does it says "refer to the manual"....

merry bay Jul 14, 2020, 5:23 PM

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manual for your manual

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 5:23 PM

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Yes.

lucid basalt Jul 14, 2020, 5:27 PM

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Worth noting that the asus 450 f doesnt say its 3000s ryzen ready but it actualy is out of box without the bios update

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570 is more future proof

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 5:52 PM

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I will replace it into my PC soon

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Just gonna run a 3dmark

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lel

jade ermine Jul 14, 2020, 5:54 PM

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Nice boxes you got over there

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 7:39 PM

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Are they important or no?

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robust pilot Jul 14, 2020, 7:54 PM

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Quick Question: i got a gtx 1050 rn and looking to upgrade to an RTX 2070 but heard that now is a bad time to buy GPU’s. Thoughts?

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 7:54 PM

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If you’re looking to do 1080p 144hz, you can go for a 2060Super or a 2070/Super

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Otherwise I can recommend waiting for the new GPUs

robust pilot Jul 14, 2020, 7:56 PM

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Yeah might do the super models then. Anyway to know if my get bottlenecked by my processor?

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 7:57 PM

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Which is?

robust pilot Jul 14, 2020, 7:57 PM

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amd ryzen 7 2700x 3.7 ghz 8-core processor

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 7:58 PM

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Yeah it’ll be perfectly fine, no problems at all

robust pilot Jul 14, 2020, 7:58 PM

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Sick thanks! Will prolly get it September so I can play Cyberpunk and such.

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O wait

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The delay

proper wren Jul 14, 2020, 7:59 PM

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Cyberpunk only DX12

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 7:59 PM

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If it’s gonna be September, then wait for the GPUs

proper wren Jul 14, 2020, 7:59 PM

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also still waiting for ASUS to respond to my gpu

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 7:59 PM

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The GPUs are supposed to release on September

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So you’ll just be better off waiting if that’s the case for upgrading your GPU

proper wren Jul 14, 2020, 8:01 PM

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its gonna be another 2070 no matter what

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 8:01 PM

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Hm?

proper wren Jul 14, 2020, 8:01 PM

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they only upgrade within 2-3 years

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Because they would run out of replacements

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 8:01 PM

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It has better RT cores

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He wants to do ray tracing

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Or more cores, either way it’s better than previous gen in some points

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Seeing how AMD is supposed to overcome the 2080 Ti at least, NVIDIA might do it this time around, to keep above AMD as a real upgrade

vapid crypt Jul 14, 2020, 8:03 PM

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New GPUs are most likely, at least going by leaked info coming out in September

robust pilot Jul 14, 2020, 8:03 PM

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Heard it’s gonna be the 3000 models though right?

vapid crypt Jul 14, 2020, 8:03 PM

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Uh as far as entry and midrange gpus they're another 4 months after

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 8:04 PM

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RTX 3000

vapid crypt Jul 14, 2020, 8:04 PM

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Well assuming AMD don't decide to release midrange preemptively

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 8:04 PM

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If you want to look into AMD, Radeon 6000

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I now dislike putting in a motherboard

vapid crypt Jul 14, 2020, 8:11 PM

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Okay PirateSimon

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 8:12 PM

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It hurts trying to put it in with all the shit on the other side of the board

robust pilot Jul 14, 2020, 8:17 PM

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I hated the cabling. Built my first build January and boy was I stressed.

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Plus I was spooked more when my friend called me out for building on carpet.

olive hinge Jul 14, 2020, 8:30 PM

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so im putting a computer together and im struggeling to how many watts i need for it

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ryzen 3 1200, rx480 8gb, 8gb dd4 ram 2300hz, 1tb hdd

lucid basalt Jul 14, 2020, 8:46 PM

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Put it all into pcpartpickers pcbuilder @olive hinge

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It will tell you . Then get something with a little more just incase

vapid crypt Jul 14, 2020, 9:12 PM

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Invest in faster RAM, it really shouldn't cost much more. Zen 1 supports 2666mhz natively; though I just remembered they are making Zen+ revisions of the 1200 so it could support 2933mhz natively

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And for wattage you can use the estimated wattage that pcpartpicker gives you, and add like 50%

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I think that's a good practice cause it gives you the overhead for efficiency and all that

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So for example if a build would draw 330W, adding 50% would put it to around a 500W Psu

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Oh one other thing I hope for the RAM you're getting a dual channel kit, meaning 2 4gb sticks instead of a single 8gb stick

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That makes all the difference, otherwise just go for 16gb

olive hinge Jul 14, 2020, 9:56 PM

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ty guys

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 10:19 PM

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Alright, so I got it all set and running first try

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Important details to notice:
1: Date is set to yesterday, 6:19AM

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2: Audio is fucked for some reason

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Actually never mind about the audio

#

Alright, got everything fixed. Guess that wasn't too hard aside from finger pain for DRP4 uninstallation

#

On second thought, the audio is still a bit weird

robust pilot Jul 14, 2020, 11:20 PM

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How so

fleet canopy Jul 14, 2020, 11:22 PM

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The voices in music sometimes need to be louder, it just sounds very quiet compared to other sounds

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Some other sounds are also quiet

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I'm still going to need to fix that, but that'll just be some testing. Perhaps it's not so bad in games unlike music/video

tardy tinsel Jul 15, 2020, 1:11 AM

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Today I increased my SSD from 1 terabyte to 2. When they put the new SSD they also transferred some of my files from my old SSD. I assume the old files were interfering with steam. So I deleted every file that has the word Steam then i downloaded and install Steam. Still having the same problem where the desktop app keeps refreshing every second. It looks like it's trying to connect to the internet but being stopped halfway through and trying again, repeat over and over again. It has full permissions and I even turned off firewall, nothing changed. My internet is fine, I can watch YouTube videos on maximum quality while running times two speed. I probably deleted Steam and reinstalled it five times today. After trying to fix this problem for 4 hours, I gave up and decide to hard reset my computer so there will be no traces of the previous files and all the permissions will be reset to default.

abstract kite Jul 15, 2020, 1:13 AM

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So why do people want to sell their 2080Ti's?

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 1:14 AM

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I assume sell the card, buy the 3080 for same performance, some money back or sell 2080 Ti

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And buy 3080 Ti/3090

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Sounds normal

vapid crypt Jul 15, 2020, 1:32 AM

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Well its a $1200 card that soon enough, a new card half or maybe even a third the price will match in performance (Well pretty much match, we're talking within 10% or less)

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And do ray tracing twice as good

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What's that tell you, in a few months a 2080 TI won't be worth what people got it for; so sell it now to maximise price and performance phaWesker

lilac geyser Jul 15, 2020, 2:17 AM

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of course they want you to sell it, guarantees you will buy a new one

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dont fall for tricks

stable wyvern Jul 15, 2020, 5:12 AM

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Meanwhile I'm using a vega 64 waiting for big navi to drop

snow rain Jul 15, 2020, 5:33 AM

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yo is ryzen5 3600 and rtx 2060 6gb a good combo

late sorrel Jul 15, 2020, 5:49 AM

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yes

snow rain Jul 15, 2020, 10:36 AM

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https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/B450Mac/

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how is this mobo

brisk badger Jul 15, 2020, 10:39 AM

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it can be good, it can be bad. It depends what you want to with the PC and what your components are

snow rain Jul 15, 2020, 11:00 AM

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@brisk badger the components r r5 3600 rtx 2060

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16 gb ram

buoyant radish Jul 15, 2020, 11:03 AM

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what is a good and cheap cpu for LGA 1156 in combo with a RTX 2070?

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2070s*

snow rain Jul 15, 2020, 11:03 AM

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i7 8700k

tardy tinsel Jul 15, 2020, 11:04 AM

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is this normal?

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brisk badger Jul 15, 2020, 11:04 AM

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@snow rain i think it's fine but it's nothing special. It also is very limited incase you want to overclock

snow rain Jul 15, 2020, 11:05 AM

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i dont want to oc

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its good 4 gaming ri8

brisk badger Jul 15, 2020, 11:05 AM

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there is surely also others who give their opinion about. they may sleeping though 😴

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yes it'll be fine for gaming

snow rain Jul 15, 2020, 11:06 AM

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thanks man

brisk badger Jul 15, 2020, 11:06 AM

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@tardy tinsel depending on what's going on it's normal. It looks like you are downloading / installing a game

merry bay Jul 15, 2020, 11:06 AM

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@tardy tinsel Yes the new steam layout has multiple instances. Usually eats up more ram than that.

tardy tinsel Jul 15, 2020, 11:08 AM

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I was having a problem with steam where it kept on closing and reopening, I restarted the computer and it seems like it stopped

snow rain Jul 15, 2020, 11:09 AM

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yo @merry bay whats your view on the mobo

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https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/B450Mac/

merry bay Jul 15, 2020, 11:09 AM

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Also the first time this update is run on the machine it will download banners and icons of every game in your steam library
People with several hundred games had sudden data usage spikes the first time round.

snow rain Jul 15, 2020, 11:09 AM

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yo @merry bay whats your view on the mobo
https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/B450Mac/

merry bay Jul 15, 2020, 11:13 AM

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It would work with a Ryzen 3600 like you want. But it seems on the cheap side so wouldn't be the most confident build.

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good enough

snow rain Jul 15, 2020, 11:13 AM

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alight thanks

viscid prism Jul 15, 2020, 1:31 PM

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Hey :D
I have a problem in a game Mirrors Edge Catalyst...
i can't find anyone on the internet who had the same problem as me and i have no idea what it could be but i think this is where i could be helped...
my mistake is the following: when i am ingame after 12 seconds the first freeze frame comes for about half a second or even a second and then exactly every 3 seconds a freeze frame of this length comes...
i have checked the game for errors in origin or reinstalling it didn't help either...
What I noticed in the taskmanager is that the graphics card jumps from 80% to 10%-50% again and again and then back to 80% in the time with the stills, which means the graphics card simply does nothing in the time... I haven't seen this in any game except this one...
Putting the graphics down didn't help either but my pc should be able to handle the easy on max. settings

unreal bloom Jul 15, 2020, 1:39 PM

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sounds very weird. is the game on ssd or hdd?

viscid prism Jul 15, 2020, 2:03 PM

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@unreal bloom hdd

unreal bloom Jul 15, 2020, 3:08 PM

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@viscid prism i'd start with checking it's SMART, and/or observing read latency/speed during gameplay. i've had a relatively similar issue with Control, turned out to be a dead hard drive.

viscid prism Jul 15, 2020, 3:10 PM

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oka ysec

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SMART data seems to be okay

brisk badger Jul 15, 2020, 3:15 PM

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@viscid prism had the same issue in another game. Turned it was the driver of my graphics that started acting strange. Do have discord open or other apps? While playing

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Well it may not be the exact issue but constant freezes every 4-5sec

viscid prism Jul 15, 2020, 3:17 PM

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Yeah discord spotify...
but its just only this game

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i have it only on mirrors edge catalyst on origin..

brisk badger Jul 15, 2020, 3:19 PM

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Close em both just for testing

viscid prism Jul 15, 2020, 3:20 PM

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okay sec.

brisk badger Jul 15, 2020, 3:20 PM

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Both apps use something called "hardware acceleration" which will utilize gpu

viscid prism Jul 15, 2020, 3:25 PM

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Still there

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But i noticed me that the laggs are stopping in the menu

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but the problem was before closing all the apps too

viscid prism Jul 15, 2020, 3:55 PM

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The entire game seems to hitch for a moment. CPU utilization, RAM util and GPU go down for a moment.

viscid prism Jul 15, 2020, 4:20 PM

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this problem makes it unplayable to play this game...

brisk badger Jul 15, 2020, 4:56 PM

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are you using an AMD gpu or nvidia?

viscid prism Jul 15, 2020, 4:56 PM

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nvidia

brisk badger Jul 15, 2020, 4:56 PM

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could try open taskmanager when it happens, helped me temporary when I did not found out what it was causing

viscid prism Jul 15, 2020, 4:56 PM

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(msi)

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i did it already...
The entire game seems to hitch for a moment. CPU utilization, RAM util and GPU go down for a moment.
i didnt found a lot of infos out..

brisk badger Jul 15, 2020, 4:58 PM

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no just keep task manager open while playing the game, in the background

viscid prism Jul 15, 2020, 4:58 PM

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yeah

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i did it

brisk badger Jul 15, 2020, 4:58 PM

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also check in the taskmanager that no nvidia service / app is utilizing the GPU

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no changes I assume

viscid prism Jul 15, 2020, 5:00 PM

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i could try this sure but right now im downloading the game from [d] to [e]

brisk badger Jul 15, 2020, 5:03 PM

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yea maybe it's the drive although I am a bit sceptical bcause at one point it should stop. Also if the interval keeps being the same it could be a driver issue. Always good to cleanly deinstall GPU driver, reboot and then instal it again

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 5:06 PM

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Linus Death Tips

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late sorrel Jul 15, 2020, 5:16 PM

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hey gamers, as some of you may know i fucked my cpu a little while ago

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I’m hoping on being able to spend some money next year on a new rig

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 5:16 PM

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Ah

late sorrel Jul 15, 2020, 5:16 PM

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my only question is, should i save and get a 3200g or spend it out on a 3600

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Because, the more I think about it the more I think that I may not upgrade next year

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So getting a 3600 might be a better idea

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so I can just upgrade my gpu

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 5:18 PM

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I guess yeah, I would expect it to last for a good few years

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It's gotten cheaper, so that's good for it

brisk badger Jul 15, 2020, 5:18 PM

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what happened to the cpu?

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 5:18 PM

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Bent pins

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Gone

late sorrel Jul 15, 2020, 5:18 PM

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broken*

brisk badger Jul 15, 2020, 5:18 PM

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😢

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 5:18 PM

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RAM wouldn't do shit for him iirc

late sorrel Jul 15, 2020, 5:19 PM

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Yeah, probably was a ram pin

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Anyway, given that the 3200g is only a little bit worse than my original 2600, i could save the money on it

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because it’s like a 70 dollar difference rn

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 5:19 PM

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But yeah, go R5 3600, and you should be able to get enough money for an RTX 3060/one of AMD's new offerings of a mid tier GPU that should just demolish at any game in 1080p 144hz at this point

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Or you could get a 3300X

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Isn't that cheaper than 3200G?

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3100 if you want as well if that's actually in stock

late sorrel Jul 15, 2020, 5:20 PM

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3300x isn’t in stock

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Otherwise i would get it

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 5:20 PM

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Oof

late sorrel Jul 15, 2020, 5:21 PM

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Yeah, it’s called “I want it pretty soon rather than in 3 months”

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 5:21 PM

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Fair enough haha

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I would get a 3600 then, they should still offer 300$ GPUs

late sorrel Jul 15, 2020, 5:22 PM

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Huh, I could get a 3100

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 5:22 PM

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You can get that if you want, overclocking it to match or pass a 7700K

late sorrel Jul 15, 2020, 5:23 PM

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Well, a 3100 is just my 2600 but cooler by the looks of it

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 5:23 PM

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Oh?

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So that'd just be a side-grade then

late sorrel Jul 15, 2020, 5:24 PM

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Yeah, so that’s a possibility

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 5:24 PM

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If your GPU is fine, then you can invest into a 3600, when you have enough money to afford the new GPUs with or without selling your current GPU, it'd be neato

late sorrel Jul 15, 2020, 5:24 PM

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Huh, might do that then

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I have a rx570

vapid crypt Jul 15, 2020, 6:33 PM

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I'd just upgrade the GPU first

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That's what I'm going to do

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I have the same cpu so PirateSimon

late sorrel Jul 15, 2020, 6:43 PM

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Yeah but the cpu is dead

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I literally cannot use it

vapid crypt Jul 15, 2020, 6:43 PM

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Oh yeah I forgot that happened

late sorrel Jul 15, 2020, 6:43 PM

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so it’s 3100 time

abstract kite Jul 15, 2020, 6:56 PM

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So for next generation of GPU. Won't something come out that is lower cost, but still preform as good as the 3080Ti/Super? $1200 for a GPU is a bit of a hard pill to swallow.

lucid basalt Jul 15, 2020, 6:58 PM

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So the 3000s are rumored to release at a lower price than the 2000s. Its a rumor though
The prices on the other cards on the market should go down however as long as they dont get discontinued like the 1080 ti

vapid crypt Jul 15, 2020, 6:59 PM

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They just discontinued turing recently

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Or are about to

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September 17 is the rumored release date for the new cards

abstract kite Jul 15, 2020, 7:00 PM

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Why would they have a lower price for the newer GPU's?

lucid basalt Jul 15, 2020, 7:02 PM

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I have no idea, like isaid its a rumor

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Even if production costs are cheaper theyre a business. Theyll maximize profit

vapid crypt Jul 15, 2020, 7:03 PM

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The reason for lowering prices is simple, they have competition looming; mining is practically dead; either way the 3080 ti will be at least $1000 so not much of a price drop

abstract kite Jul 15, 2020, 7:04 PM

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Oh boy $200 less then recently projected

vapid crypt Jul 15, 2020, 7:04 PM

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Ah that's the fun part

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The 2080 ti had an original MSRP of $1000

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But they set it to $1200 anyway

abstract kite Jul 15, 2020, 7:05 PM

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When newer GPUs drop to a price of a console or less then that's when I'm likely to buy.

lucid basalt Jul 15, 2020, 7:05 PM

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I dont see a new release gpu ever being that inexpensive

abstract kite Jul 15, 2020, 7:05 PM

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5700XT Was

lucid basalt Jul 15, 2020, 7:05 PM

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When you build a rig the gpu is ~50 to 60% of your budget anyway

abstract kite Jul 15, 2020, 7:06 PM

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It really is

proper wren Jul 15, 2020, 7:06 PM

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vapid crypt Jul 15, 2020, 7:06 PM

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When you realize that a 2080ti is 200% more expensive than a 5700 XT, but only like 35 - 40% faster something's wrong

proper wren Jul 15, 2020, 7:06 PM

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The strix fits lol

viscid prism Jul 15, 2020, 7:14 PM

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@brisk badger The problem is still there...

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@brisk badger i reinstallet the game to [E] and (reinstalled) the grafik driver

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:I
this makes it impossible to play 😦

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the problem wasnt there at the beginning

abstract kite Jul 15, 2020, 7:18 PM

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When you realize that a 2080ti is 200% more expensive than a 5700 XT, but only like 35 - 40% faster something's wrong
@vapid crypt
Is that a bad thing? Lol

vapid crypt Jul 15, 2020, 7:18 PM

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Yes phaWesker

abstract kite Jul 15, 2020, 7:18 PM

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Explain? XD

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I'm confused

vapid crypt Jul 15, 2020, 7:18 PM

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Really?

viscid prism Jul 15, 2020, 7:19 PM

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@brisk badger I fixed it 😄

abstract kite Jul 15, 2020, 7:19 PM

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Is 35%-40% faster not good?

vapid crypt Jul 15, 2020, 7:19 PM

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I mean its better but not for 200% more money

viscid prism Jul 15, 2020, 7:20 PM

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@brisk badger i just tought i did everything but it wasnt at the menu the lagg so i decided to create a new game and its fixed but i hope it wont come back like before...

lucid basalt Jul 15, 2020, 7:20 PM

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Its the way the market has prett much always worked

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If that 40% extra speed results in never dropping below 60 fps in your games. Plenty of people would and did pay

vapid crypt Jul 15, 2020, 7:20 PM

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To a certain extent, but just for perspective going back to pascal

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The 1080 ti is 50% faster than a 1070

lucid basalt Jul 15, 2020, 7:21 PM

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1080 ti is a monster

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For 1080p

vapid crypt Jul 15, 2020, 7:21 PM

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And it was what $300 difference

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So 50% more performance, 100% more money

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That makes a bit more sense

lucid basalt Jul 15, 2020, 7:22 PM

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Uea but you gotta remember the market we are dealing with. They literally discontinued the 1080 tis when 2000s came out to make you pay more for the new stuff

vapid crypt Jul 15, 2020, 7:22 PM

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I understand why the market is the way its been

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I'm just pointing out its shit

lucid basalt Jul 15, 2020, 7:23 PM

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^

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 7:23 PM

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What if the GPU was about 25% of your budget? 👀

lucid basalt Jul 15, 2020, 7:23 PM

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I can get behind that @vapid crypt

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 7:23 PM

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Or less than 10% maybe

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That's what the Linux creator has GWjianGodLUL

lucid basalt Jul 15, 2020, 7:23 PM

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Then you have a problem

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Lol

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Only 10%? What did you spend on the rest

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 7:24 PM

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The Linux creator I said

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He has a 3970X with an RX 570/580 because he doesn't game lol

lucid basalt Jul 15, 2020, 7:24 PM

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Ah ok

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Joke went over my head like Drax in guardians of the galaxy

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Ohgod. What if they discontinue the 2000s on release of 3000s and the 3000s are more expensive not cheaper

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 7:27 PM

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Mm

lucid basalt Jul 15, 2020, 7:27 PM

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.<

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 7:27 PM

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I think they'll just discontinue 2080 Ti

jade ermine Jul 15, 2020, 7:31 PM

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of course 3000 series will be more expensive
its nvidia we are talking about lol

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also turing prices should hike up too soon when they stop making new ones

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 7:32 PM

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But what if it is cheaper?

vapid crypt Jul 15, 2020, 7:32 PM

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They pretty much stopped making them

abstract kite Jul 15, 2020, 7:33 PM

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Rip 20xx series

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People are gonna think back just like the 10xx series

vapid crypt Jul 15, 2020, 7:33 PM

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F for the 2080 ti, it will be matched by a card less than half the price PirateSimon

jade ermine Jul 15, 2020, 7:33 PM

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Atleast in RT performance

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 7:33 PM

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lel

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What about the 7700K being matched with a CPU that's 1/4 of its price

abstract kite Jul 15, 2020, 7:34 PM

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Pretty glad that the 30xx series are alot cheaper than 20xx series in release date

vapid crypt Jul 15, 2020, 7:34 PM

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No in general performance

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It will be just as fast

jade ermine Jul 15, 2020, 7:34 PM

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@abstract kite

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fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 7:34 PM

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Uh

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Coming to consoles first before open to buy for PC

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Apparently

vapid crypt Jul 15, 2020, 7:35 PM

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The RT performance no question will be faster though

lucid basalt Jul 15, 2020, 7:35 PM

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They are not confirmed to release 3000s for less than 2000s

jade ermine Jul 15, 2020, 7:35 PM

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I eat my socks if their step below titan card will cost under 1500

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 7:36 PM

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3090?

abstract kite Jul 15, 2020, 7:36 PM

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Yup + not much fps difference from ray tracing enable or not

jade ermine Jul 15, 2020, 7:36 PM

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No clue what it will be called @fleet canopy

abstract kite Jul 15, 2020, 7:36 PM

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@lucid basalt gotta keep up with the news boi

lucid basalt Jul 15, 2020, 7:36 PM

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I do. Its not confirmed to be that way.

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 7:36 PM

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They're still making Titans apparently

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3060, 3070, 3070 Ti, 3080, 3080 Ti, 3090, and Titan

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I wish we have 16GB VRAM gamer GPUs

abstract kite Jul 15, 2020, 7:37 PM

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Bruh soo much rumors end up to become true 85% of the time @lucid basalt

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 7:37 PM

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Like for the 3080 Ti, should have 14-16GB VRAM

lucid basalt Jul 15, 2020, 7:38 PM

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Id like to see the actual stats you got that % from.
The market we are in right now would never follow through on that. Theres a pssibility but its unlikely

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If they can get away with charging more they will

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 7:38 PM

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We should at least get more VRAM

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Than just 11GBG each fucking release lol

abstract kite Jul 15, 2020, 7:38 PM

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11gb VRAM is enough

brisk badger Jul 15, 2020, 7:38 PM

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do you happen to know how much vram your average game is allocating?

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 7:38 PM

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Aside from Quadro/Titan but meh

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Mm

abstract kite Jul 15, 2020, 7:39 PM

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Well for 80ti gpu

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 7:39 PM

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I'm pretty sure some games use up more than 11GB of VRAM at this point

abstract kite Jul 15, 2020, 7:39 PM

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Such as..

jade ermine Jul 15, 2020, 7:39 PM

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Well we dont need more than 11GB so i don't mind if they keep it at that this year too

brisk badger Jul 15, 2020, 7:39 PM

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if you play on a 8monitor, sure

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or skyrim modded 😋

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*8k monitor

abstract kite Jul 15, 2020, 7:39 PM

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Well 8k is the new "4k in 2013" or such

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 7:39 PM

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iirc I heard Tarkov takes up more than 11GB, and at this point, I feel like we just have it for a good long time

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I dislike how they focus on 1080p and 4K more than 1440p tbf

late shuttle Jul 15, 2020, 7:40 PM

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I'm still holding onto my 1070 for dear life at this point lmao.

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 7:40 PM

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Sure we got some nice 1440p still coming out

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But we have 4K 144Hz : )

brisk badger Jul 15, 2020, 7:40 PM

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well the average game today uses less than 6gb. vram consumption scales exponentially with the resolution size

lucid basalt Jul 15, 2020, 7:40 PM

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1070 is minimum req for Cyberpunk 2077

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Minimums are rising

jade ermine Jul 15, 2020, 7:40 PM

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gotta have that pixel density on point am i right gois

abstract kite Jul 15, 2020, 7:40 PM

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Damn thank god I have the RTX 2070 super

late shuttle Jul 15, 2020, 7:41 PM

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As soon as i go to 1080ti, it will become the minimum

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 7:41 PM

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Damn thank god I have the RTX 2070 super

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1080 Ti won't become a min for a good long time

abstract kite Jul 15, 2020, 7:41 PM

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2070 super is sweet spot for price + performance

lucid basalt Jul 15, 2020, 7:41 PM

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No. @late shuttle 1080ti will never let you down on 1080p resolution

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 7:41 PM

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It's like a 2060 Super/2070 Super

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Without the RT

late shuttle Jul 15, 2020, 7:41 PM

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I'm on 1440p

lucid basalt Jul 15, 2020, 7:42 PM

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@abstract kite yes

jade ermine Jul 15, 2020, 7:42 PM

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Ofc it will let you down but maybe not right now @lucid basalt

lucid basalt Jul 15, 2020, 7:42 PM

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Bit that was before the delays and the game got a facelift

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So might be even higher

abstract kite Jul 15, 2020, 7:42 PM

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GTX 1080ti will only run modern 1080 games Ludvig

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Jkjk

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 7:42 PM

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lol

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More like it'll only run with a 3900X

jade ermine Jul 15, 2020, 7:43 PM

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Obviously its a 1080p card because its called 1080Ti

abstract kite Jul 15, 2020, 7:43 PM

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Atleast it living up to it title

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 7:43 PM

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: )

jade ermine Jul 15, 2020, 7:43 PM

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titanium tier 1080p card

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 7:43 PM

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Hah

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Where's our 1440 Ti

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Or 2160 Ti

late shuttle Jul 15, 2020, 7:43 PM

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Lmao

abstract kite Jul 15, 2020, 7:43 PM

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Until newer games will screw with the 1080ti encoder

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 7:43 PM

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720 Ti

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900 Ti

abstract kite Jul 15, 2020, 7:43 PM

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Causing less fps due to it old encoder

late shuttle Jul 15, 2020, 7:43 PM

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I hear 980ti's can still whoop ass.....

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 7:44 PM

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Yeah on 1080p

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For 1440p it'll probably do alright maybe

jade ermine Jul 15, 2020, 7:44 PM

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but for 1080p you might wanna look at pascal 1080 cards

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ok i stop now

abstract kite Jul 15, 2020, 7:44 PM

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Just more optimized

brisk badger Jul 15, 2020, 7:44 PM

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graphic progression in games is struggling 😉 😛

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 7:44 PM

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The older ones stop getting updates for their drivers, etca.

late shuttle Jul 15, 2020, 7:45 PM

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I did get a good deal on a 3900

brisk badger Jul 15, 2020, 7:45 PM

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nvida has some decent driver support for older gpu's. that's really nice

late shuttle Jul 15, 2020, 7:45 PM

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so now I have a 1070 with a 3900 lmao. I feel backwards

abstract kite Jul 15, 2020, 7:45 PM

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Bro wat

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 7:45 PM

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3900?

jade ermine Jul 15, 2020, 7:45 PM

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@late shuttle brudda

📎 3900x3.jpg

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 7:45 PM

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Doesn't exist

lucid basalt Jul 15, 2020, 7:45 PM

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You dont need a cpu over 3700x for gaming

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 7:45 PM

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Lies

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This man is lying

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the 3900 does not exist

brisk badger Jul 15, 2020, 7:46 PM

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unlucky: "will it blend?"

abstract kite Jul 15, 2020, 7:46 PM

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I have the default 3600

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 7:46 PM

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If you mean good deal as in 420$

jade ermine Jul 15, 2020, 7:46 PM

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it does exist for OEM use

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hehe

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 7:46 PM

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That's just gets lowered over time

abstract kite Jul 15, 2020, 7:46 PM

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Wonder how the new Ryzen 4000 run

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 7:46 PM

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I have to see what's good with my 3700X now

late shuttle Jul 15, 2020, 7:46 PM

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sorry 3900x*

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 7:46 PM

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At least it's such an improvement over my 7700K lel

late shuttle Jul 15, 2020, 7:47 PM

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I'm also rocking noctua ugly brown

abstract kite Jul 15, 2020, 7:47 PM

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Bruh

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 7:47 PM

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I rocked the DRP4 until I got the 3700X

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Cannot find AM4

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lol

abstract kite Jul 15, 2020, 7:47 PM

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I'm rocking with stock AMD cooler until my LC comes

lucid basalt Jul 15, 2020, 7:47 PM

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Im confused. Isnt 3700x an am4

late shuttle Jul 15, 2020, 7:47 PM

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I gave the 3900x cooler to my gf for her build.

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 7:48 PM

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Yeah

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I just don't have the AM4 for DRP4

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So I can't use my DRP4 lol

lucid basalt Jul 15, 2020, 7:48 PM

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Oh ok

abstract kite Jul 15, 2020, 7:48 PM

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Stock AMD cooler is still holding up pretty good NGL

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 7:48 PM

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I'm now with a pretty cool stock though

jade ermine Jul 15, 2020, 7:48 PM

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im rocking 1440mm of radiator surface area and 1440p display

late shuttle Jul 15, 2020, 7:48 PM

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📎 unknown.png

jade ermine Jul 15, 2020, 7:48 PM

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numbers are fun

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 7:48 PM

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It still gives me around 80c like what i had with 7700K + DRP4

abstract kite Jul 15, 2020, 7:48 PM

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The aesthetic must hurts

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But it perform well

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 7:48 PM

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nah

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Looks neat

abstract kite Jul 15, 2020, 7:48 PM

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Idk the brown is kinda

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 7:49 PM

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The case fits with the fan

late shuttle Jul 15, 2020, 7:49 PM

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Old pic. I dont have the stock cables anymore

jade ermine Jul 15, 2020, 7:49 PM

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embrace the brown

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 7:49 PM

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Brown mm

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Lovely

late shuttle Jul 15, 2020, 7:49 PM

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You're gonna love this though

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1 sec...

abstract kite Jul 15, 2020, 7:49 PM

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Better spray paint that shit

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 7:50 PM

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Quick pick
1080p 240Hz TN
1440p 144Hz VA
1440p 144Hz IPS

jade ermine Jul 15, 2020, 7:50 PM

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ips 1440p 144hz

abstract kite Jul 15, 2020, 7:50 PM

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Depends on what game you play

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CSGO or any competitive is the 1080p

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 7:51 PM

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I play Siege, but I also play other games aside only Siege

late shuttle Jul 15, 2020, 7:51 PM

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abstract kite Jul 15, 2020, 7:51 PM

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1440p 144hz seems good for siege. Probably need a beefy PC to do 1440p 144hz

late shuttle Jul 15, 2020, 7:51 PM

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My gf's $615 build

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Lmao

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 7:51 PM

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I do have a good PC to do 1080p 144/240Hz, 1440p 144hz, I'm totally fine

late shuttle Jul 15, 2020, 7:52 PM

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I hate it, she loves it

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 7:52 PM

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Crappy case color

jade ermine Jul 15, 2020, 7:52 PM

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competetive games are light, 1440p is the way to go

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 7:52 PM

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Guess I'll get a 1440p 144hz IPS

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Cyberpunk 2077 in Epic

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: )

abstract kite Jul 15, 2020, 7:52 PM

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Game of the year

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Jkjk

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 7:52 PM

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My brother downloaded Rust on my PC because he doesn't care

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Plus because 3700X and show

abstract kite Jul 15, 2020, 7:52 PM

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Too bad it late for it possibly to be considered game of the year

proper wren Jul 15, 2020, 7:52 PM

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Hmmmm

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 7:53 PM

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He's actually surprised by just how fucking good it looks GWjianGodLUL

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Think he runs 1080p 60Hz, maybe 1080p 75/120Hz idk

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He gets stutters quite a bit due to having a R5 2600 on Rust lel

abstract kite Jul 15, 2020, 7:54 PM

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Playing 60 fps games unless the graphics is amazing hurts to see

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After playing 144hz+

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 7:54 PM

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I have a 1440p 60Hz

abstract kite Jul 15, 2020, 7:54 PM

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I game on 1440p 165hz

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 7:54 PM

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At the moment, if only I could achieve true 60FPS without the 1%/0.1% lows going below 60FPS then it'd look really smooth

jade ermine Jul 15, 2020, 7:55 PM

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Jump to high refresh rate wagon, You will be pleased.

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 7:55 PM

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Well of course

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Just gotta have monee

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or wait for next birthday/christmas GWjianGodLUL

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Don't understand how LG still has a monitor that's IPS and then somehow better IPS

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Only difference apparently is a bit better color stuff

jade ermine Jul 15, 2020, 7:57 PM

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nano ips?

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 7:57 PM

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Yeah

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Mm, now to see what monitor I can pick

jade ermine Jul 15, 2020, 7:58 PM

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I have not been reading too much about that, Probably not a game changer or anything. Sounds cool though

lucid basalt Jul 15, 2020, 7:58 PM

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BenQ monitors ftw

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 7:58 PM

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The LG one about 380$ which is pretty good, probably the ASUS TUF one, hm

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Only on PCPP though, not a lot to pick

lucid basalt Jul 15, 2020, 7:58 PM

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But $

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 7:58 PM

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I know there's much more

abstract kite Jul 15, 2020, 7:59 PM

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📎 Screenshot_20200715_131424.jpg

late shuttle Jul 15, 2020, 7:59 PM

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Lmao

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 7:59 PM

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lol

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Me

late shuttle Jul 15, 2020, 7:59 PM

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Damn

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 7:59 PM

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I probably can just get myself an AIO tbf

jade ermine Jul 15, 2020, 7:59 PM

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LG and Samsung have the best ones now with all the bells and whistles. HDR is meme and most likely out of your budget (1000 peak brightness and good FALD basically needed)

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 7:59 PM

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But then again, air is superior

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lol imagine having HDR

late shuttle Jul 15, 2020, 7:59 PM

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I had AIO in my first build

jade ermine Jul 15, 2020, 7:59 PM

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Just get any IPS 1440p 144hz monitor and you are happy boye

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 7:59 PM

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I heard of the G7

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Gotta look into that one

abstract kite Jul 15, 2020, 8:00 PM

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AIO is the way to go

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 8:00 PM

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Heard it was 600$ though lel

abstract kite Jul 15, 2020, 8:00 PM

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Unless your old case doesn't support it

late shuttle Jul 15, 2020, 8:00 PM

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I like air better. Peace of mind

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 8:00 PM

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Don't mind paying 600$ for it tbf, but meh

jade ermine Jul 15, 2020, 8:00 PM

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also its VA

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 8:00 PM

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VA is fine

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Probably will be a little meh knowing I do have an IPS

jade ermine Jul 15, 2020, 8:00 PM

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do you want it to be only fine for 600

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 8:01 PM

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That shit is 32" : )

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This is not meme channel

abstract kite Jul 15, 2020, 8:01 PM

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Lmao

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Ok

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 8:02 PM

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That G7 monitor looks sick though

jade ermine Jul 15, 2020, 8:02 PM

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how much is LG 27GL85 for you

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 8:02 PM

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Oh they do have a 27" one

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700$

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lol

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"Crystal clear picture"

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It's curved as hell

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The price is considerable

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Knowing it's a 240Hz

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1ms

jade ermine Jul 15, 2020, 8:04 PM

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16:9 the curve serves very little purpose

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just aesthetic thing

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 8:04 PM

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Not a single fucking way would I reach 240FPS on a 1440p

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Except siege

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I can about reach a fairly nice 230-300FPS on that

jade ermine Jul 15, 2020, 8:04 PM

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Smooth cursor :D

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 8:04 PM

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Clearest words on a 240Hz

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: )

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I might invest into it

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But then again it's just overkill lmao

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Although I'll just keep that as a list to order at one pointr

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"Dropping frames means dropping chances to put your enemy in the dirt"

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With a 1000R curve, the most curved thing to exist atm I guess, "Infinity Core Lighting(?)", 1ms, QLED, 240Hz, 1440p

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As well as HDR600

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Which I yet still have to know more of

jade ermine Jul 15, 2020, 8:07 PM

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idk whats the point of G7 when LG monitors exist

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cheaper too

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 8:08 PM

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I guess the G7 just offers more like 240Hz and curve lel

jade ermine Jul 15, 2020, 8:08 PM

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and you dont have to watch ghosting against gray surfaces

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 8:08 PM

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Any monitors to recommend?

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And not the nano IPS LG one, not paying that much for some improved IPS shit

jade ermine Jul 15, 2020, 8:09 PM

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Find the cheapest monitor with 1440p 144hz IPS

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buy that

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easy life

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acer/aoc

fleet canopy Jul 15, 2020, 8:09 PM

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Then the LG not nano IPS

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The VG270U had it for about 300$ at one point

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Cheapest I've seen 👀

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Still gonna pick the LG

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Oh yeah it's that monitor

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With

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: )