#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk | GTFO | Page 130

clear quartz Jul 8, 2020, 10:15 PM

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if my friend brought 2 ammo bags id go 6 turrets

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one of the hardest missions to do with randoms, id say was the yatch one

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 10:16 PM

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y'all do stealth with randos?

vapid crypt Jul 8, 2020, 10:16 PM

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Literally any stealth mission

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:16 PM

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On occasion

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Mostly just stealth carry

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 10:16 PM

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I would prefer by self, but randoms are always good for the kind of harder stealth

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 10:16 PM

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are there more guards with more players?

vapid crypt Jul 8, 2020, 10:16 PM

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Stealth in Payday isn't my favorite

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:16 PM

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Nope

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 10:16 PM

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Like Meth lab stealth 👀 only solo

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:17 PM

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I just hated some of the decisions around pagers

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I liked everyone only being able to answer 1 pager

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 10:17 PM

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Or the full "non" stealthable heist

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:18 PM

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I also like the silent assassin concept

clear quartz Jul 8, 2020, 10:18 PM

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farming rat labs on when overkill was the second hardest

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:18 PM

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But clearly, most levels arent designed with that in mind

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 10:18 PM

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Silent Assassin is just like

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 10:18 PM

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silent assassin feels kinda cheap the way it was implemented

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 10:19 PM

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True, but it'd be more sensible than just having to answer pagers every goddamn kill tbh

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 10:19 PM

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you can't really ballance it tho

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:19 PM

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I liked the concept, not the execution

vapid crypt Jul 8, 2020, 10:19 PM

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I don't really like using too many mechanic mods, the only ones I used were the mods that improved partner AI and gave them extra usability

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:19 PM

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Only balancing you could do would be in level design

clear quartz Jul 8, 2020, 10:19 PM

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i thought you had only 3 pagers per stealth mission

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 10:19 PM

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4

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 10:20 PM

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I once saw a dude with like

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So many goddamn mods that were to make the game more easier to run

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Like a whole shitload that you could make a big paragraph with all the titles

clear quartz Jul 8, 2020, 10:20 PM

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i never had any issues with pd2

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i ran it on a laptop

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 10:21 PM

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Payday 2 is unoptimized as balls

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Even though it really really could use optimization

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 10:21 PM

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payday 2 is made on a car engine

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 10:21 PM

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Like fr it looks like you could run it 100FPS no problem on a shitbox

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:21 PM

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It runs fairly well these days

vapid crypt Jul 8, 2020, 10:21 PM

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Depends on the map

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 10:22 PM

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Even despite it being a car engine, they can't do driving too well

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:22 PM

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I get 100+ fps on 3440x1440 with literally thousands of bodies piled up around me

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 10:22 PM

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Although driving isn't too bad

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:22 PM

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Driving is pretty fucky tho

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 10:22 PM

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Yaeh

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:22 PM

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Particularly on low spwc computers

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 10:22 PM

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It's weird and wonky

vapid crypt Jul 8, 2020, 10:22 PM

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I know the engine was made for car games, but largely the engine was barely used for those kinds of games

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:22 PM

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I legitimately couldnt finish the car shop on deathwish

vapid crypt Jul 8, 2020, 10:23 PM

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Like it was used in a Ghost Recon game

clear quartz Jul 8, 2020, 10:23 PM

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what engine is it?

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 10:23 PM

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diesel

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 10:23 PM

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Diesel

clear quartz Jul 8, 2020, 10:23 PM

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oh

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 10:23 PM

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Car go vroom

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It's a 1990s engine

vapid crypt Jul 8, 2020, 10:23 PM

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Payday 2 uses a updated iteration Diesel 2

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:23 PM

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Because due to laptops specs, the car wouldnt travel fast enough to get to the escape in time

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 10:23 PM

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Why would laptop specs not allow your car go vroom?

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:23 PM

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Idek

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Game was weird on that laptop

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Cpu would hit 100% and ai would bug out

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Like all the ai would just freeze

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You could walk through an entire group and maybe 1 would shoot at you

clear quartz Jul 8, 2020, 10:25 PM

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what laptop specs tho?

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:25 PM

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I3 3217u with 4 gb ram

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 10:25 PM

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ovkl actually had to patch this so ppl wouldn't host on a low spec pc to mess with the ai

clear quartz Jul 8, 2020, 10:25 PM

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oof

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:26 PM

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I miss the old riot shield glitch tho

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 10:26 PM

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lol

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:26 PM

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Where they would automatically face away from you after sprinting

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 10:26 PM

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what glitch?

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 10:26 PM

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It was neat

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 10:27 PM

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lol

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 10:27 PM

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Oh?

clear quartz Jul 8, 2020, 10:27 PM

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lol

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 10:27 PM

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I thought you meant using the shield as cover

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:27 PM

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So they would sprint up to you, then turn around and line the back kf their skull up with your gun

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 10:27 PM

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ik you're biased cause you bought the game but would you recommend gtfo?

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 10:27 PM

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Not biased

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:27 PM

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Eh

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I dont know jf i would

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 10:28 PM

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GTFO is okay if you're into that sort of stealth with teamwork

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:28 PM

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^

clear quartz Jul 8, 2020, 10:28 PM

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^^

vapid crypt Jul 8, 2020, 10:28 PM

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I bought it so PirateSimon

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 10:28 PM

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I don't have friends tho

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:28 PM

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You get severely disadvantaged for having less players

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 10:28 PM

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friends who would spend the 30 bucks anyway

clear quartz Jul 8, 2020, 10:29 PM

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dearhly disadvantaged

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 10:29 PM

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LFG exists

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:29 PM

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I think its a bit of a niche game

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And at that price

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I cant make a general recommendation to buy it

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 10:30 PM

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Same

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It seems too much for what the game offers

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At least maybe now for the moment

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:30 PM

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Yeah

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Particularly given the nature of the content

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 10:30 PM

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welp, the best that came out of this was the payday 2 discussion

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:30 PM

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Its a bunch of snapmap style levels

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 10:30 PM

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still trying to find something from the steam sale

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:31 PM

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And it might take you hours to do some levels

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Mostly because trial and error

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So you get bored fairly quickly

vapid crypt Jul 8, 2020, 10:31 PM

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My buddy told me that for this run down, it took him 15 hours of attempts to beat D1

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:31 PM

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Id believe it

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It took me about 10 hours

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 10:32 PM

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There's a shitload of good games for 10$ or under

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Alien Isolation for one

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There's also quite a nice few in 15$ range

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:32 PM

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My recommendation is always dungeon siege 1 and 2

vapid crypt Jul 8, 2020, 10:32 PM

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I picked up a handfull of games already

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:33 PM

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Goes for like 3 bucks nz each

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Fuck dungeon siege 3 tho

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Square enix ruining franchises because they can

vapid crypt Jul 8, 2020, 10:33 PM

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Sounds about right

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 10:33 PM

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Just Cause 3 👀

vapid crypt Jul 8, 2020, 10:33 PM

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Sounds like modern game companies phaWesker

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 10:33 PM

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I believe it's at

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7$

vapid crypt Jul 8, 2020, 10:34 PM

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I got bored of Just Cause 3 after finishing the first section of the game

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:34 PM

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Like, dungeon siefe 1 and 2, gas powered games

vapid crypt Jul 8, 2020, 10:34 PM

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But I got the deluxe edition for like 6 bucks so phaWesker

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:34 PM

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3 was obsidian by contract with square enix

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And i had a talk with a guy from obsidian a few years back

vapid crypt Jul 8, 2020, 10:35 PM

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Obsidian just gets shafted by the publishers they work with

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:35 PM

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Basically asked him why obsidian could make fantastic games like fallout new vegas

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 10:35 PM

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JC3 got way fucking boring after the whole campaign was over

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:35 PM

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And ruin games like dungeon siege 3 and kotor 2

vapid crypt Jul 8, 2020, 10:35 PM

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New Vegas was an amazing success considering they only had 18 months

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:35 PM

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His answer was literally publishers

vapid crypt Jul 8, 2020, 10:36 PM

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But they still got shafted cause of 1 point on metacritic

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:36 PM

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Square enix wanted dungeon siege 3 to be more console and microtransaction friendly

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 10:36 PM

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I guess publishers are the big reason to how good a game is

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 10:36 PM

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new vegas was the only fallout I enjoyed

clear quartz Jul 8, 2020, 10:36 PM

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new vegas is my fav 3d fallout game

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:36 PM

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And lucas arts apparently had a project canceled, and they wanted something to release for the christmas period

vapid crypt Jul 8, 2020, 10:37 PM

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Fallout 2 will always be my personal favorite

clear quartz Jul 8, 2020, 10:37 PM

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fallout 3 and 4 are subpar

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:37 PM

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So they moved kotor 2 up by nearly a year

clear quartz Jul 8, 2020, 10:37 PM

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first kotor was great

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 10:37 PM

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I've never really got into Fallout too much

clear quartz Jul 8, 2020, 10:37 PM

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top tier rpg

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:38 PM

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Kotor was was god tier

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Kotor 2 just felt dead inside

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Literally a husk of a game

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 10:38 PM

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any recommendations besides rpgs?

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:39 PM

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Deep rock galactic is aight

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Sea of thieves

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 10:39 PM

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had my eyes on that but again, no friends

vapid crypt Jul 8, 2020, 10:39 PM

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Deep Rock you can play solo

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You get a handy dandy drone pal

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 10:39 PM

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ik you can play solo but would you?

vapid crypt Jul 8, 2020, 10:39 PM

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Sure

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 10:39 PM

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Sea of thieves
@restive garnet not on sale tho

vapid crypt Jul 8, 2020, 10:39 PM

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I mean I have before

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I prefer to play with at least one other person though

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 10:40 PM

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yep

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that's the point

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:40 PM

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Rust, borderlands, oblivion

clear quartz Jul 8, 2020, 10:40 PM

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any recommendations besides rpgs?
@balmy knoll deoends on what type if game you like

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 10:41 PM

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roguelikes, fps games and some strategy games

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:41 PM

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Dead island for some zombie slaying

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 10:41 PM

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I guess Civilization V is neat for you maybe

vapid crypt Jul 8, 2020, 10:41 PM

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Ah well speaking of Rougelikes I just got Risk of Rain 2, but I suppose while you could play solo that's more of a co-op game

clear quartz Jul 8, 2020, 10:41 PM

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any fromsoft game?

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:41 PM

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Might enjoy project zomboid as well

clear quartz Jul 8, 2020, 10:42 PM

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dying light?

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 10:42 PM

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Risk of Rain 2 was too generous with the hopoo deal

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 10:42 PM

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Dying Light I could recommend

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:42 PM

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Bioshock infinite

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 10:42 PM

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half off on launch day

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 10:42 PM

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Same thing for me though, boring after you're done

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But the DLC campaigns are something to look at

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:42 PM

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Dying light is harder to get in to compared to dead island

vapid crypt Jul 8, 2020, 10:42 PM

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I beat the following, thought the endings were shit and never touched it again

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 10:43 PM

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It's okay if you like the multiplayer

vapid crypt Jul 8, 2020, 10:43 PM

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But I mean customizing your personal buggy

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That's pretty fun

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:43 PM

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Spore is another great game

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 10:43 PM

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And they have those like, custom snapmaps kinda thinjg

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They're pretty cool

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:43 PM

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Wolfenstein

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Doom

clear quartz Jul 8, 2020, 10:43 PM

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i love to run around parkouring

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:43 PM

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Metro

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 10:43 PM

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You mean Penis Evolution Game?

vapid crypt Jul 8, 2020, 10:43 PM

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Dusk

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 10:43 PM

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Dusk I can recommend if you love the 90s game

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:43 PM

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Fable

vapid crypt Jul 8, 2020, 10:43 PM

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Dusk is for the classic fps connoisseur

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 10:43 PM

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I tried it out, was pretty neat imo

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Yeah

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:44 PM

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Halo

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Thief

vapid crypt Jul 8, 2020, 10:44 PM

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Though I think if you enjoyed Doom 2016, Dusk would be right up your alley

clear quartz Jul 8, 2020, 10:44 PM

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fable game was great

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:44 PM

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Bear in mind the most recent thief game is another square enix shitshow tho

clear quartz Jul 8, 2020, 10:44 PM

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i wish we had a 3rd fable game

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 10:44 PM

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Metro 2033/2034 is great, Exodus is also very good but it isn't gonna have you constantly in the metro if you like it for that

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:44 PM

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There was a third fable game

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It was shit

clear quartz Jul 8, 2020, 10:44 PM

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no there wasn't

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there wasn't

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:45 PM

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I agree

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 10:45 PM

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If you mean like

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The 8 fable games

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Then uhh

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:45 PM

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I to wish to refuse to acknowledge its existence

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 10:45 PM

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Fair enough

clear quartz Jul 8, 2020, 10:45 PM

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i miss the old AC games

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 10:45 PM

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is how intuitive would you say is thief?

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 10:45 PM

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I miss Skate 2/3

abstract kite Jul 8, 2020, 10:46 PM

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Oh come now we have AC Valhalla.

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 10:46 PM

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seems interesting but I tried to play deus ex and it was a bust for me

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 10:46 PM

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Thief is a pretty neat game, boring after done with campaign

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:46 PM

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Id say go back to thief deadly shadows

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Its fairly straight forward

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 10:46 PM

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Fairly straightforward, pfft

clear quartz Jul 8, 2020, 10:46 PM

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Assassin creed 2 and brotherhood were the best ones

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 10:46 PM

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I tried the old gfame

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Fucking

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:46 PM

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Stay in shadows, hit people from behind

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Etc

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 10:46 PM

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Couldn't get past one part of the tutorial

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:46 PM

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Lmfaooo

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 10:46 PM

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Because tbh it was vague as fuck at that point

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 10:46 PM

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Thief is a pretty neat game, boring after done with campaign
I am way too spoiled from rogue-likes

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 10:47 PM

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Terraria

vapid crypt Jul 8, 2020, 10:47 PM

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If you want realism get Thief Simulator PirateSimon

clear quartz Jul 8, 2020, 10:47 PM

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shadowrun

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:47 PM

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Dishonored is what thief should have been

vapid crypt Jul 8, 2020, 10:47 PM

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Terraria is pretty cool

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 10:47 PM

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Dishonored is great

clear quartz Jul 8, 2020, 10:47 PM

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fucking love the 1rst dishonored

vapid crypt Jul 8, 2020, 10:47 PM

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more content throughout the game

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not so much post moon lord focus

clear quartz Jul 8, 2020, 10:52 PM

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hackers memories has god tier storytelling if you ask me

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 10:52 PM

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like calamity is only like halfway done when u beat moon lord

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:53 PM

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7 days to die is fantastic

vapid crypt Jul 8, 2020, 10:53 PM

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Uh...

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:53 PM

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Even if optimization leaves a lot to be desired

clear quartz Jul 8, 2020, 10:53 PM

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heat signature,anyone?

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 10:53 PM

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felt like gunpoint tbh

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you get the loop halfway trough, have fun for a few more levels and then it's a slog

clear quartz Jul 8, 2020, 10:54 PM

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true

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:54 PM

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The witcher

clear quartz Jul 8, 2020, 10:55 PM

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oof

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 10:55 PM

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the witcher and ds have been sitting on the backburner for like 3 months for me

clear quartz Jul 8, 2020, 10:55 PM

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the first witcher is kinda painful to play tbh

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 10:55 PM

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I never got too into Witcher 3?

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I still needed more time to play it

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 10:55 PM

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not really

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 10:55 PM

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Curse the family share having ended

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:56 PM

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Homefront the revolution is a fun game, if you get jt cheap

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 10:56 PM

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Oh yeah

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:56 PM

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The ai is mediocre at best

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 10:56 PM

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It's definitely a neat game ish

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But it's not the most exciting tbf

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 10:56 PM

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I never got too into Witcher 3?
I just jumped into the highest difficulty and the way the first boss tanked left a bad taste in my mouth

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 10:56 PM

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Original Homefront multiplayer still is going on if it still is to this day

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:56 PM

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Id happily recommend it on sale

clear quartz Jul 8, 2020, 10:57 PM

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id recommend monster hunter

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 10:57 PM

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the best/worst thing that happened this sale is that titanfall 2 is filled with newbs

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:57 PM

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Titanfall 2 is fun

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 10:58 PM

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I got gifted Titanfall 2 from someone cause they were like "Fuck it lol"

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It's neat

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:58 PM

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First game i played on my ultrawide

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No regrets

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 10:58 PM

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I spent all the little uhh

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:58 PM

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Makes mech piloting that much more baller

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 10:58 PM

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I feel dread when I see "tracked by a pilot" on the bottom of my screen

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 10:58 PM

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Money things into shit I wanted and knew I'd be okay

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The fucking world scan/regular scan thing is such a fucking pain

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It happens almost constantly

clear quartz Jul 8, 2020, 10:59 PM

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titanfall 2 is so such a great fps

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 10:59 PM

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If you dont mind origin stuff, mirrors edge is fun

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 10:59 PM

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That I feel like I would just get the damn tracker and yeet it 24/7

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Mirror's Edge is great

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It's straightforward, one path to go

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 10:59 PM

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lol I remember when I bought titanfall 2 on origin and the deluxe edition was like 5 euros cheaper than the normal one

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 10:59 PM

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But it offers so much good stuff

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lel

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 11:00 PM

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people actually have to unlock titans

clear quartz Jul 8, 2020, 11:00 PM

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I'd actually half hesrtly recommend battlefront 2 (2017)

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 11:00 PM

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I think I had all the titans from start?

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I could be very wrong

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 11:00 PM

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Honestly, i bought titanfall 2 for 40 bucks

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 11:01 PM

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Must be from my buying spree of the ingame money thing

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 11:01 PM

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Spent 20 hours playing the campaign

clear quartz Jul 8, 2020, 11:01 PM

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i got the 5 euro sale

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 11:01 PM

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Felt like i got my moneys worth

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 11:01 PM

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The campaign is great

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 11:01 PM

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deluxe edition for 10 euros was lit

clear quartz Jul 8, 2020, 11:01 PM

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oh yeaj

vapid crypt Jul 8, 2020, 11:01 PM

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Oh actually I didn't know it was a game with a campaign, maybe I would have gotten it then

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 11:02 PM

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Every so often i jump on and do the fire from the sky mission

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 11:02 PM

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titanfall 1 didn't have a campaign

vapid crypt Jul 8, 2020, 11:02 PM

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I thought it was a purely multiplayer shooter

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 11:02 PM

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they had the brilliant idea of integrating the campaign into multiplayer

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 11:02 PM

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Because its just a pure mission of mech carnage

clear quartz Jul 8, 2020, 11:02 PM

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tbh i feel fallen order is a very meh game

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 11:03 PM

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The multiplayer campaign thing was

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Just

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Eh

clear quartz Jul 8, 2020, 11:03 PM

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i wouldn't recommend it

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 11:03 PM

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titan combat is a meh for me

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I'm a ronin main tho

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 11:03 PM

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I mainly just play PvP

clear quartz Jul 8, 2020, 11:03 PM

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same

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 11:03 PM

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Starwars jedi knight academy

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Fun game

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 11:04 PM

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I mainly just play PvP
idk with the steam wave but before the queue for pvp was longer than the match itself

clear quartz Jul 8, 2020, 11:04 PM

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best star wars light saber combat

Starwars jedi knight academy
@restive garnet

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 11:04 PM

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Tbh, i was a filthy tone main

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Tho i dont mind legion

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 11:04 PM

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been there

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gen 3 on tone

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now I find joy in making tones cry with the ark wave

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 11:05 PM

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I also didnt mind ion

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But ion is a bit harder to play

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 11:05 PM

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if u play ion you gotta play at range and spam laser shot

clear quartz Jul 8, 2020, 11:06 PM

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^

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 11:06 PM

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I just found i was burnjng my energy so quickly

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 11:06 PM

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your core is one of the best so try to get that

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don't use split shot

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it's terribly inefficient

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 11:06 PM

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Triple tap anti titan laser and then be useless for the next 15 seconds

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Which is where i liked tone

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 11:07 PM

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it's better to laser shot 2 times and then go with normal fire

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 11:07 PM

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A bit lower burst

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But no issue sustainjng

clear quartz Jul 8, 2020, 11:07 PM

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if i do hate 1 things about pvp its the kraber campers

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 11:07 PM

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ppl actually camp with kraber?

clear quartz Jul 8, 2020, 11:07 PM

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lol yeah

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 11:08 PM

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y'all didn't hear about a thing called spitfire + amp wall

clear quartz Jul 8, 2020, 11:08 PM

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hate that too

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 11:10 PM

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most ppl who use kraber are gen 20 sweats who cannot find enjoyment in using car and going smooth brain mode

clear quartz Jul 8, 2020, 11:10 PM

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^^

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i like using the softball from time to time

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 11:12 PM

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I mainly like using the gun that looks like it's a mix of an AK an an FN FAL

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 11:12 PM

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flatline?

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 11:12 PM

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Yeah

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 11:12 PM

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Flatline was great

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Shame they fucked it in apex

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 11:12 PM

#

?

clear quartz Jul 8, 2020, 11:12 PM

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i haven't used it much

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 11:13 PM

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the flatline is great in apex

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 11:13 PM

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The side recoil is pretty fucking hard

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Well not too hard

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But it's a bit of a pain

clear quartz Jul 8, 2020, 11:13 PM

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i do love it on apex

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 11:13 PM

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They nerfed the hell out of the damage last time i played

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 11:13 PM

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Still imo a good gun for damage

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 11:13 PM

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the side recoil can either just cancel itself out or just screw you over in titanfall

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 11:13 PM

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It was basically the same damage as the r301

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 11:14 PM

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They nerfed the hell out of the damage last time i played
the only time they nerfed the damage was on the spitfire and r99

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flatline was only buffed

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 11:14 PM

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I stopped playing a few months after launch

clear quartz Jul 8, 2020, 11:14 PM

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hmmm if I'm not mistaken it does 18 gamage

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 11:14 PM

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20 now

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 11:15 PM

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So it probably hadnt been buffed by then

clear quartz Jul 8, 2020, 11:15 PM

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hemlock is 22

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 11:15 PM

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the dps is pretty much identical to r301

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 11:15 PM

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While the 301 is more accurate and has a larger magazine

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 11:15 PM

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the recoil is higher but it's less dependent on attachments

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nope

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flatline has 30 max, r301 only 28

clear quartz Jul 8, 2020, 11:16 PM

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wasnt flatline a bit higher than r301?

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 11:16 PM

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Last i played, the 301 was larger than that

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33 rounds iirc

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 11:16 PM

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it was always like this

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it had bigger mag size in titanfall too if I'm correct

clear quartz Jul 8, 2020, 11:19 PM

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i do hate the G7 iron sights in apex

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 11:19 PM

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Base damage when i played for 301 was 14, 16 on flatline

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But the 301 was generally better all around

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 11:20 PM

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the 301 is still better if it's fully kitted

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 11:20 PM

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Couldnt stand the flatline

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Loved it in titanfall 2

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 11:20 PM

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but a white 301 vs a white flatline would lose

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 11:21 PM

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Depends on usage

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 11:21 PM

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dps race with decent accuracy

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 11:21 PM

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301 can maintain a higher accuracy at range than flatline

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 11:21 PM

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Yeah the 301 had 33

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At least should have 33

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 11:22 PM

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I have played since launch week and I don't remember it ever having 33

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 11:22 PM

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Also, throwback to mozambiques

clear quartz Jul 8, 2020, 11:23 PM

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i already forgotten about few months post lauch

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 11:23 PM

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I liked how fast it was for a br

#

compared to pubg where everyone was camping with a sniper and fortnite where ppl built a 6 story mansion at the sound of a gunshot

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 11:24 PM

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I liked the faster pace, i just hated how weird time to kill felt for such a fast paced game

clear quartz Jul 8, 2020, 11:24 PM

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the ttk is what makes it special than other br games

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 11:24 PM

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ttk?

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Me bum dumb

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 11:24 PM

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time to kill

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 11:24 PM

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Ah yes

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I just notice after I put in my message

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 11:24 PM

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it takes like a whole second to kill someone

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 11:25 PM

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If you are landing shots

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 11:25 PM

#

yea

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with a lot of guns if you don't hit +50% of your bullets you gotta reload

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 11:25 PM

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And that was where i struggled

clear quartz Jul 8, 2020, 11:26 PM

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apex ttk makes it great as you dont get snipped out of fucking nowhere

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 11:26 PM

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Everyones zooming around so im missing most of my shots

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Only gun i was consitent with was peacekeeper and spitfire

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 11:26 PM

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apex snipers have been nerfed a lot

clear quartz Jul 8, 2020, 11:26 PM

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oh yeaj

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 11:27 PM

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they made sniper attachments and ammo exclusive from other guns

restive garnet Jul 8, 2020, 11:27 PM

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That being said, i enjoyed the prowler and longbow/scout

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 11:27 PM

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you have no reason to pick up a sniper if it isn't a kraber or you have an evo

clear quartz Jul 8, 2020, 11:27 PM

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i miss when the long bow was heavy type

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 11:28 PM

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s1 longbow near the repulsor ramp

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pain

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a bit off topic but I don't like how much of trust has been lost from early access games

clear quartz Jul 8, 2020, 11:29 PM

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i played one month aftwr launch then took a break and returned mid seasom 2

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 11:29 PM

#

I tried Apex Legends

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Didn't like it so much

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The fact you're forced to play with 2 other people is just dumb

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 11:30 PM

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now you're only forced to play with 1 other guy

clear quartz Jul 8, 2020, 11:31 PM

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lol

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 11:31 PM

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they added duos

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 11:31 PM

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Oh?

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Eh

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Still want solo

clear quartz Jul 8, 2020, 11:31 PM

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permanent dous

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 11:31 PM

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I wouldn't play it still anyways

fresh breach Jul 8, 2020, 11:31 PM

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my friends GTX780 laptop keeps crashing while playing GTFO is there a fix?

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 11:31 PM

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lol I just realised we're in tech talk

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 11:32 PM

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Meh

balmy knoll Jul 8, 2020, 11:32 PM

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this server probably needs more general channels

clear quartz Jul 8, 2020, 11:32 PM

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getting a new laptoo?

fresh breach Jul 8, 2020, 11:32 PM

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lol as much i want him

fleet canopy Jul 8, 2020, 11:32 PM

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Laptops are stupid expensive

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Buy computer parts and build them 👀

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Unless you land a nice deal on a very good laptop

fresh breach Jul 8, 2020, 11:32 PM

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he is using a laptop passed on by his older brother

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lol

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and yes laptop are too expensive

clear quartz Jul 8, 2020, 11:37 PM

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has he tried launching everything on low?

stable wyvern Jul 9, 2020, 2:26 AM

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my friends GTX780 laptop keeps crashing while playing GTFO is there a fix?
@fresh breach 780 or 780M? Big difference

fleet canopy Jul 9, 2020, 2:31 AM

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M is for laptops

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: )

torn ferry Jul 9, 2020, 11:59 AM

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Any recommendations on how to fix stuttering within Yakuza 0?

clear quartz Jul 9, 2020, 12:04 PM

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getting more ram?

torn ferry Jul 9, 2020, 12:07 PM

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I have 32 GB.

clear quartz Jul 9, 2020, 12:08 PM

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drivers up to date?

torn ferry Jul 9, 2020, 12:08 PM

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Yes.

ornate ginkgo Jul 9, 2020, 12:22 PM

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Change fullscreenmode

fleet canopy Jul 9, 2020, 12:23 PM

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Look for common stutter problems and fix

#

They may just be something with the game sometimes

torn ferry Jul 9, 2020, 12:37 PM

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It's on borderless right now.

ornate ginkgo Jul 9, 2020, 2:38 PM

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Put it on fullscreen, sry for super late answer

vapid crypt Jul 9, 2020, 8:18 PM

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When you pay $1100 for a 10900K https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-JqbfaObyk

fleet canopy Jul 9, 2020, 8:19 PM

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lol

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Shintel

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Sucks that prices are going bum for about so many things

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Except AMD cpus and RAM

lilac geyser Jul 9, 2020, 9:25 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06awT8w0_PU

abstract kite Jul 10, 2020, 12:58 AM

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Do you have 2 gpus?

#

@torn ferry

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If you have more than 1 graphics card in sli it will cause the game to stutter

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The game is too light

fleet canopy Jul 10, 2020, 1:03 AM

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He only has a single 2080

abstract kite Jul 10, 2020, 1:03 AM

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Rip so it's not that

fleet canopy Jul 10, 2020, 1:03 AM

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I guess Yakuza 0 isn't the most stable game

#

Because it could still just be the game itself

#

Or his CPU isn't doing too well/too much work

abstract kite Jul 10, 2020, 1:04 AM

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Optimization leonaDisappointed

fleet canopy Jul 10, 2020, 1:04 AM

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He has a 8700K lel

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So I guess it'd just be the game

abstract kite Jul 10, 2020, 1:05 AM

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Lol yeah Reddit already fixed it

#

The stutter

#

Looks like he has to set the exe's priority to high

torn ferry Jul 10, 2020, 1:19 AM

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I tried looking in task manager for priority options, but there are none.

merry bay Jul 10, 2020, 1:23 AM

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Find it in Details tab, not Processes.

abstract kite Jul 10, 2020, 4:04 AM

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📎 Save_Process_Priority.webp

fleet canopy Jul 10, 2020, 6:08 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Du-GxHQSb_I

rapid plume Jul 10, 2020, 9:44 PM

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📎 image0.jpg

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This is Just with my boot SSD in, Ive tried a bunch of shit with no working fixes, and the only support I’ve gotten is people telling me I have to reinstall Windows, or that my MB is dead for SATA

#

Any help would be appreciated, since my fucking PC is dead now

#

Tried with all of the drives I have

#

Still setting up a spare shitty PC I have with an HDD dock to see if there’s an issue there, just taking forever

#

Yea

bright shard Jul 10, 2020, 9:48 PM

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this a fresh build or an already functioning build with a new issue?

rapid plume Jul 10, 2020, 9:49 PM

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A functioning build that the issue popped up out of nowhere

bright shard Jul 10, 2020, 9:49 PM

#

^

rapid plume Jul 10, 2020, 9:49 PM

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Thing is, I can still get into BIOS perfectly fine

#

Getting past BIOS then this comes up

bright shard Jul 10, 2020, 9:50 PM

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motherboard?

rapid plume Jul 10, 2020, 9:52 PM

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MSI Z97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150

bright shard Jul 10, 2020, 9:52 PM

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https://windowsreport.com/stuck-efi-shell/

rapid plume Jul 10, 2020, 9:52 PM

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I tried clearing cmos already

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Tried everything there Clay

bright shard Jul 10, 2020, 9:53 PM

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ok.

rapid plume Jul 10, 2020, 9:53 PM

#

I’m exhausting all my options before deciding it’s dead

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Because I have no fucking money to get new shit

#

To old

bright shard Jul 10, 2020, 9:55 PM

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played with boot option?

rapid plume Jul 10, 2020, 9:55 PM

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Yep

#

I’m waiting on two people to help, if they can’t I’m going to resume my extreme depression cry session

#

But hey... I have PC parts for sale now

#

Yes

#

I’m just fucked

merry bay Jul 10, 2020, 10:09 PM

#

Did you try the most recent link yet?

#

You said you can still enter BIOS, so have you explored boot priority options yet?

#

The screen can see your partitions clearly. It just defaults to EFI for some reason

#

a picture of your bios boot options would be helpful

rapid plume Jul 10, 2020, 10:23 PM

#

📎 image0.jpg

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Won’t let me change out of UEFI

#

I’ll try that after

merry bay Jul 10, 2020, 10:33 PM

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before entering bios is there a button you can press to enter boot menu or something of that sort?

rapid plume Jul 10, 2020, 10:34 PM

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No

merry bay Jul 10, 2020, 10:52 PM

#

it could be f9 or f11 or f12, basically depends on the motherboard

#

can try digging around for Fast Boot to disable it, then try to see if Legacy boot(instead of just UEFI) becomes an option

#

just disabling Fast Boot might do the trick

rapid plume Jul 10, 2020, 10:55 PM

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I’ve never had it enabled

#

Thanks...

pure flint Jul 11, 2020, 12:09 AM

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ok super interested in the game but worried about performance

#

i7-4790 16gb RAM GTX1650 Super and running from SSD

fleet canopy Jul 11, 2020, 12:10 AM

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It'll run

pure flint Jul 11, 2020, 12:10 AM

#

I know what the system requirements say on steam but i know early access is subject to change

fleet canopy Jul 11, 2020, 12:10 AM

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It's supposed to be designed to run smooth from mid end PCs from like 2015

#

So it should be able to do 60FPS on 1080p

pure flint Jul 11, 2020, 12:11 AM

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awsome

#

@fleet canopy thanks a bunch

abstract kite Jul 11, 2020, 12:29 AM

#

3070ti rumours have me like eyeshake

fleet canopy Jul 11, 2020, 12:30 AM

#

I heard of it, didn't fully see it lel

#

What's it gonna be?

abstract kite Jul 11, 2020, 12:31 AM

#

potentially the same performance as the current 2080S (possibly 2080ti) with better raytracing. And, of course, at a cheaper cost.

fleet canopy Jul 11, 2020, 12:31 AM

#

Neat

abstract kite Jul 11, 2020, 12:36 AM

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If those rumours are true, then I may just get one of those and not worry about a 3080. Lord knows I'd love to spend less than what I have budgeted.

fleet canopy Jul 11, 2020, 12:39 AM

#

kek

#

Should also keep an eye on AMD as well, they might offer some really good choices tbf

abstract kite Jul 11, 2020, 12:41 AM

#

Oh for sure!

#

Big Navi might be incredible

vapid crypt Jul 11, 2020, 1:01 AM

#

Significantly less info about Big Navi

jade ermine Jul 11, 2020, 1:04 AM

#

where muh leaks at

fleet canopy Jul 11, 2020, 1:04 AM

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Nowhere

abstract kite Jul 11, 2020, 1:04 AM

#

Significantly less info about Big Navi
@vapid crypt
I don't know whether to be intrigued or worried about the fact that Big Navi has been almost "hush-hush" from AMD.

fleet canopy Jul 11, 2020, 1:04 AM

#

The leaks are leaking into the trash can

stable wyvern Jul 11, 2020, 1:18 AM

#

TBF, the higher end AMD cards have often times been sparse on details

#

Their lower and mid end cards have significantly more information leakage

fleet canopy Jul 11, 2020, 1:19 AM

#

I mean, it'd make fair sense for lower end specs to be more leaked

abstract kite Jul 11, 2020, 1:21 AM

#

That's typically where AMD floods the market, so that's probably what the majority of AMD buyers would be interested in.

#

Imo at least.

spark canyon Jul 11, 2020, 2:23 AM

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I just cant wait for bigger GPUs. Its about time we had a new standard. More size less heat more performance.

fleet canopy Jul 11, 2020, 2:24 AM

#

I don't think bigger makes it better GWmythicalThonkCool

#

Maybe more fans, sure

#

But bigger seems unnecessary

spark canyon Jul 11, 2020, 2:25 AM

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But they are having to make the tech smaller to fit on the gpus... so the gpu size standard is definitely a limiter.

pure flint Jul 11, 2020, 2:27 AM

#

i7-4790 16gb RAM GTX1650 Super and running from SSD
ok so FYI this can't hit 60fps on medium settings

#

am i doing something wrong fellas

fleet canopy Jul 11, 2020, 2:27 AM

#

Hm, what resolution?

pure flint Jul 11, 2020, 2:28 AM

#

1080p

#

running exclusive fullscreen

#

nothing in the background

vapid crypt Jul 11, 2020, 2:29 AM

#

Its looking like Ampere is gonna be hotter on average, they're cranking clocks and wattages. Course the performance will make up for that

bright shard Jul 11, 2020, 2:51 AM

#

the 1650 is a good card, but it is by no means a power house.
by comparison, my gtx 970 can barely hit 75 on low. (0 prerendered frames).
@pure flint

#

i would play with the cpu culling feature tbh

#

and tweak the game profile in the nvidia settings.

abstract kite Jul 11, 2020, 2:57 AM

#

I run my stuff on Max and I'm rocking a 1060 an amd 8350fx with 16 gigs of RAM so he should be fine?

#

I do have more vram tho

proper wren Jul 11, 2020, 3:01 AM

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doggopeek I can't wait for 3000 series to turn into mining cards and skyrocket the prices

bright shard Jul 11, 2020, 3:01 AM

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1060 is a good deal stronger than 1650

merry bay Jul 11, 2020, 3:04 AM

#

Try turning up prerendered frames in advanced settings. (at least 4+)
See if that makes a difference

#

Might have to resort to low settings if 60fps is important though

bright shard Jul 11, 2020, 3:10 AM

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i dont like the frame lag, but yeah, you might get better luck with increasing prerendered frames.

rapid plume Jul 11, 2020, 7:51 AM

#

So I fixed it... it’s literally windows 10 being windows 10 and saying ‘I’ll just say fuck yo hand corrupt myself now’... it’s fixed with a new install

bright shard Jul 11, 2020, 8:51 AM

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Thats windows for you.

#

Always good to disconnect drives and boot linux on a flash for shit like that

#

Gratz on avoiding terminal despair.

proper wren Jul 11, 2020, 9:17 AM

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Sent another RMA ticket to ASUS, if they ain't budging it then I have to contact the ASUS rep from my store

eternal cairn Jul 11, 2020, 9:43 AM

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I'm getting my (2nd) monitor tomorrow. I sent the first one back because it had a dead pixel.

proper wren Jul 11, 2020, 9:58 AM

#

just 1 dead pixel?

rapid plume Jul 11, 2020, 11:51 AM

#

It was windows corrupting itself, new installer with odd ass BIOS and it’s working

fleet canopy Jul 11, 2020, 1:00 PM

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1 dead pixel, hm

#

I'd have let it wait, those can go away in a bit

fleet canopy Jul 11, 2020, 1:26 PM

#

I mean, I remember having a dead pixel on my TV at one point

#

But yeah not noticeable unless you have the color on another color that's easy to notice difference

#

1 dead pixel still won't allow a return, maybe it's the company that allows it, as a majority stil lwon't allow

#

Probably Amazon does it fine, or something

abstract kite Jul 11, 2020, 1:32 PM

#

Even food?

fleet canopy Jul 11, 2020, 1:32 PM

#

I mean

#

You can order food from them

#

Local Amazon store!

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:)

abstract kite Jul 11, 2020, 1:33 PM

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Then you don't use it for everything. Kekw

fleet canopy Jul 11, 2020, 1:34 PM

#

lol

abstract kite Jul 11, 2020, 1:34 PM

#

Lol

fleet canopy Jul 11, 2020, 1:38 PM

#

lel

unreal bloom Jul 11, 2020, 2:57 PM

#

so, i just learned that my laptop mic sounds like garbage in discord, there's too much echo and lows are way above the limit. what can i do about it except buying a new mic?

ornate ginkgo Jul 11, 2020, 3:05 PM

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@unreal bloom Either go to the sound panel, choose your mic and lower the volume (your list will look different)

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or try these settings ^^ Something they are also in the sound panel (depends on the sound driver your laptop has)

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I also can suggest some cheap headsets with good audio-quality (around 30$) Mine was only 20€ and has very good built and sounds quality, specially for this price

unreal bloom Jul 11, 2020, 3:09 PM

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what headset are you using?

ornate ginkgo Jul 11, 2020, 3:09 PM

#

Give me a second and i will give you the precise name :'D

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"STOGA COOL 2000"

#

i bought it on amazon, unfortunate it says "not available" for me

fleet canopy Jul 11, 2020, 4:26 PM

#

lol imagine having a keyboard for a week only for it to have the spacebar thing fucking break off so easy GWjiangoOmegaLUL

earnest rose Jul 11, 2020, 4:26 PM

#

F

fleet canopy Jul 11, 2020, 4:26 PM

#

Back to my G710 now

#

G413

#

I liked the design, didn't like how the switches are unique and not Cherry MX

#

For around 20-25 euros more, https://www.amazon.co.uk/Professional-Broadcasting-Microphone-Adjustable-Suspension/dp/B01I6LIZ8S/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=NW-800&qid=1594484834&s=musical-instruments&sr=1-2

#

The keyswitch?

#

Oh that

#

I guess that part is nice, but I don't really like the design too much

#

I'm surprised it's supposed to be low profile, considering what it is

earnest rose Jul 11, 2020, 4:30 PM

#

hmm

fleet canopy Jul 11, 2020, 4:31 PM

#

I like the smaller and more simpler design

#

Ah yeah

#

Makes sense

#

In a review, reviewer says he dislike font

#

Font is ugly

#

And it does

#

Looks like they stretched it pretty much

#

Doesn't matter I guess, but it's funny noting that

#

kek

#

I used to have a corsair at first

#

Then went to Logitech

#

I was deciding to get a corsair next though lmfao

earnest rose Jul 11, 2020, 4:34 PM

#

M or K?

fleet canopy Jul 11, 2020, 4:35 PM

#

Hm?

#

Hah

#

Why is that name a name?

earnest rose Jul 11, 2020, 4:37 PM

#

corsair key?

#

thats what i mean

eternal cairn Jul 11, 2020, 7:54 PM

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Wow, Amazon has failed me again.

fleet canopy Jul 11, 2020, 7:54 PM

#

Oh?

eternal cairn Jul 11, 2020, 7:57 PM

#

I bought the AOC 24G2 from them, the first one had a few dead pixels, so I returned it and bought another one (as soon as it restocked). The 2nd one has one dead pixel and what looks like a huge gash on side of the screen.

fleet canopy Jul 11, 2020, 7:57 PM

#

: )

#

Nice

eternal cairn Jul 11, 2020, 7:57 PM

#

I'm glad I don't pay for shipping. 😩

fleet canopy Jul 11, 2020, 7:58 PM

#

lmfao

eternal cairn Jul 11, 2020, 7:59 PM

#

This is the gash.

📎 image0.jpg

fleet canopy Jul 11, 2020, 7:59 PM

#

The gash

eternal cairn Jul 11, 2020, 8:00 PM

#

Or maybe the pixels are just cracked.

#

Either way, it's ridiculous.

#

I'm contemplating buying 2 of this same monitor when it restocks so I don't have to wait when I return it the next time.

fleet canopy Jul 11, 2020, 8:02 PM

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Better you didn't lmfao

#

Cause you'll have a useless 2nd monitor at this point tbf

eternal cairn Jul 11, 2020, 8:03 PM

#

I can still return it.

fleet canopy Jul 11, 2020, 8:03 PM

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Oh?

eternal cairn Jul 11, 2020, 8:03 PM

#

The whole ordeal is to get a version of the monitor without any dead pixels or other panel-related defects.

lilac geyser Jul 11, 2020, 8:03 PM

#

how many returns so far?

eternal cairn Jul 11, 2020, 8:04 PM

#

In total, including this one, it'll be 3.

#

But I actually bought a different variant of the monitor: the 27G2, which is essentially the same as the 24G2 except it's 27" and has G-Sync compatibility.

#

Of course, I still returned that one for the same reason.

#

Also, I'm still undecided on which one I want.

#

There's no flickering with the 27G2 (which makes sense since Nvidia verified it), but the 24G2 (which didn't pass Nvidia's tests) experienced some minor flickering when starting up a game, which is a little worrying if it happens mid-game.

fleet canopy Jul 11, 2020, 8:07 PM

#

NVIDIA's testing of freesync compactible is a joke

lilac geyser Jul 11, 2020, 8:08 PM

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I should start monitor lottery, all monitors guaranteed to have no dead pixels for 2x the price

eternal cairn Jul 11, 2020, 8:08 PM

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I don't understand what AOC did differently with their 27G2 and 24G2 for one to work perfectly with G-Sync but the other not to.

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If you want monitors for 2x the price, you should check all the 3rd party sellers on Amazon. They price gouge like it's the apocalypse.

lilac geyser Jul 11, 2020, 8:10 PM

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lol true, i just checked a 10700K on silicon lottery, and it cheaper than on amazon

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RIP

fleet canopy Jul 11, 2020, 8:10 PM

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Like I said

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It's a fucking joke

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Any NVIDIA card should work fine with a freesync

eternal cairn Jul 11, 2020, 8:10 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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That's the theory, anyway.

fleet canopy Jul 11, 2020, 8:11 PM

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The testing for that monitor was probably done with a shit batch of that monitor so they just called it a day and said it didn't work

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Why would it be a theory?

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It's been a thing for more than a year probably

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So there's no theories

eternal cairn Jul 11, 2020, 8:11 PM

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We don't know if the adaptive sync modules they use are configured any different from other monitors.

fleet canopy Jul 11, 2020, 8:11 PM

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So what if it isn't?

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It should work nonetheless

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Or just don't use it at all

eternal cairn Jul 11, 2020, 8:14 PM

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There's probably a lot more to the technical side we don't know about. Also, if all Freesync monitors are supposed to work with G-Sync, then why is it that there are Freesync monitors that have issues with ghosting and flickering with G-Sync?

fleet canopy Jul 11, 2020, 8:15 PM

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if it has that problem, then don't use it

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Otherwise I wouldn't ever care about using freesync/gsync

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I either use vsync or just not cap it at all

eternal cairn Jul 11, 2020, 8:16 PM

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Well... technically there is.

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Freesync 2/Freesync Premium.

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But it's shit from what I've heard.

lilac geyser Jul 11, 2020, 8:17 PM

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the hardware on the minitor that runs freesync is really similar to the hardware that runs gsync

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nvidea get over yourselves and find a common standard

eternal cairn Jul 11, 2020, 8:18 PM

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They're too busy wiping their asses with the money they make from G-Sync to care about what consumers think.

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I've never had an AMD graphics card, but I don't think getting one is going to be nearly as flawless as Nvidia cards I've had in the past.

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Aren't their drivers shit though?

fleet canopy Jul 11, 2020, 8:23 PM

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They improved drivers on the 5000 series a lot and it's pretty damn good

eternal cairn Jul 11, 2020, 8:24 PM

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The only thing that'll convince me to go AMD is if they have a substantial performance boost over the next Nvidia cards.

fleet canopy Jul 11, 2020, 8:24 PM

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Haven't heard a complaint about the 5000 series in a while

lilac geyser Jul 11, 2020, 8:25 PM

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nazo: what if they have the best value card?

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nearly as good as competition but for way less

fleet canopy Jul 11, 2020, 8:25 PM

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Yeah

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That little amount of performance over AMD is just stupid going for NVIDIA if their prices are stupid

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Big

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Dying at one point to being a legendary company that has revolutionized technology so damn well with their Ryzen releases and their GPUs

eternal cairn Jul 11, 2020, 8:27 PM

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I mean, if AMD's gpus are in the same ballpark as Nvidia's in terms of performance, then I'll consider AMD. I still prefer value for performance.

fleet canopy Jul 11, 2020, 8:27 PM

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At least we aren't stuck with 4 cores lol

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Radeon VII with 300W but just comparable with a 2070 Super

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Better than a 1080 Ti 👀

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And better yet, fucking 300$ less

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lmao

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At least from this list

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I assume it's much more

vapid crypt Jul 11, 2020, 8:30 PM

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Well yeah twice the amount of Vram and a shit ton more bandwidth

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Of course it'll be more expensive

fleet canopy Jul 11, 2020, 8:30 PM

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I'm surprised the 2070 Super is above the 1080 Ti though

vapid crypt Jul 11, 2020, 8:30 PM

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Well that makes sense cause of drivers

fleet canopy Jul 11, 2020, 8:30 PM

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At least it has 16GB VRAM

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16GB of VRAM unlike every xx80 Ti release from 980 Ti to now

vapid crypt Jul 11, 2020, 8:32 PM

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So Nvidia typically they will kinda stop game driver support for older cards for the most part, that's kind of where the false rumor of Nvidia cards getting slower over time come from. Its not that they get slower its just they optimize for their newer cards

fleet canopy Jul 11, 2020, 8:32 PM

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Don't think that'd apply to apple though 👀

vapid crypt Jul 11, 2020, 8:33 PM

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Also Paul from not an apple fan is going in on a gamble https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyQQ-iXklB4

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Betting on Big Navi what a guy PirateSimon

fleet canopy Jul 11, 2020, 8:34 PM

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lol

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He is a serious AMD fan

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Only Ryzen on the showcase

vapid crypt Jul 11, 2020, 8:34 PM

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He's a fan of a good deal, he'll shit on AMD if they make similar business decisions like Intel

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Which he has

fleet canopy Jul 11, 2020, 8:35 PM

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Oh no, is he indian??? There's a video titled "How Nvidias Marketing Is Gearing Up To Rob You And the Rtx 3070 Will Be There Weapon!"

vapid crypt Jul 11, 2020, 8:35 PM

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Uh no he's Irish phaWesker

fleet canopy Jul 11, 2020, 8:35 PM

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Indian*

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How NVIDIA Marketing Is Gearing Up To Rob You And the ~~Rtx~~ RTX 3070 Will Be ~~There~~ Their Weapon

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:)

vapid crypt Jul 11, 2020, 8:36 PM

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Hehehe yeah well he's fucked up spelling in titles pretty often

fleet canopy Jul 11, 2020, 8:36 PM

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But I'm curious

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Just what makes the 3070 a weapon for robbery

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Robbing bitcoin, perhaps

vapid crypt Jul 11, 2020, 8:37 PM

#

CPU Hierarchy for gamers*

fleet canopy Jul 11, 2020, 8:37 PM

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The first list? 10900K

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Gaming Score? No percentage

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Just 100

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10000% 👀

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How the fuck is the 9900KS an 1800$ CPU now?

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I knew it increased in price

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But not by a whole 1300$

vapid crypt Jul 11, 2020, 8:40 PM

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No point in even considering that as a proper price

abstract kite Jul 11, 2020, 8:40 PM

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What is the 9900KS? I know it is Intel, right?

fleet canopy Jul 11, 2020, 8:41 PM

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It's a 9900K basically

vapid crypt Jul 11, 2020, 8:41 PM

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Yeah its a higher binned i9 9900K

fleet canopy Jul 11, 2020, 8:41 PM

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And you get to overclock all cores to

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5000MHz

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:)

vapid crypt Jul 11, 2020, 8:41 PM

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You know for 15% more money

abstract kite Jul 11, 2020, 8:42 PM

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Oh a i9

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So and 7000 series of an i7?

vapid crypt Jul 11, 2020, 8:44 PM

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No the first number denotes generation

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Used to be a bit different in earlier generations, but recently they've decided x700 is for i7s, x900 is for i9s, x600 down to x400 is for i5s

abstract kite Jul 11, 2020, 8:47 PM

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Oh okay so 9700 is a ninth generation i7?

fleet canopy Jul 11, 2020, 8:48 PM

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Yes

vapid crypt Jul 11, 2020, 8:48 PM

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Right

abstract kite Jul 11, 2020, 8:48 PM

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That makes sense

fleet canopy Jul 11, 2020, 8:48 PM

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The first number is the generation

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The second number is the

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Yes

vapid crypt Jul 11, 2020, 8:49 PM

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That describes the numbering schemes perfectly

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They're arbitrary and only make sense in the vacuum of the products they're selling phaWesker

void perch Jul 11, 2020, 8:50 PM

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I finally got around to installing my new M.2 SSD. I'm still missing some theoretical performance but the write is 2,000 MB/s faster than my current drive.

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vapid crypt Jul 11, 2020, 8:53 PM

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I could get a second one, and I am considering it eventually

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I still have 4 lanes left on the chipset so phaWesker

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I did get a cheaper nvme, so nearly half as fast as that one. Though it cost as much as a Sata SSD so I'm not complaining

void perch Jul 11, 2020, 8:55 PM

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my mobo supports 3 🙂

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My OS disk

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So write is a bit slower, I didn't gain on read, which is fine

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I think my CPU might be capping it tbh

vapid crypt Jul 11, 2020, 8:56 PM

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Yeah it should say if its NVME on its label, though the other tell is if it has a single notch for its contacts

fleet canopy Jul 11, 2020, 8:56 PM

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NVME has one small gap in the slot part, SATA M.2 has two gaps

vapid crypt Jul 11, 2020, 8:56 PM

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Yeah that's an NVME drive

fleet canopy Jul 11, 2020, 8:56 PM

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Samsung obviously has NVME lel

void perch Jul 11, 2020, 8:56 PM

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its performance speeds can reach up to 5000 MB/s (read) and 4400 MB/s (write) when using a PCIe Gen4 motherboard
https://www.sabrent.com/product/SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-2TB/2tb-rocket-nvme-pcie-4-0-m-2-2280-internal-ssd-maximum-performance-solid-state-drive/

vapid crypt Jul 11, 2020, 8:57 PM

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Well yeah I doubt Samsung makes Sata M.2s

void perch Jul 11, 2020, 8:57 PM

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Note: In order to take advantage of these speeds, a PCIe Gen4 motherboard is REQUIRED. Otherwise it will be at pcie gen 3 speed at max of 3400MB/s.
hmm this could be it too

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though I thought I checked and my mobo is gen 4

vapid crypt Jul 11, 2020, 8:58 PM

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This is on the threadripper system?

void perch Jul 11, 2020, 8:58 PM

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I didn't go with a threadripper

vapid crypt Jul 11, 2020, 8:58 PM

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I see

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X570?

void perch Jul 11, 2020, 9:00 PM

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Triple Ultra-Fast M.2 with PCIe Gen3 x4 & SATA interface
ahh yeah board is gen 3

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I must have looked up one of the newer revisions of the board that was gen 4

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either way, still a big perf bump, I might get a threadripper in the future and can reuse this drive

sick reef Jul 11, 2020, 9:04 PM

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When you get your random read/write up to 3400, that's the real important bottleneck

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hmmm

eternal cairn Jul 11, 2020, 10:10 PM

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Is there a way to test USB speed/bandwidth?

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My Elgato HD60s occasionally drops frames, regardless of the recording software I use.

sick reef Jul 11, 2020, 10:14 PM

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It's running on USB and not PCIe?

eternal cairn Jul 11, 2020, 10:14 PM

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USB 3.0.

vapid crypt Jul 11, 2020, 10:15 PM

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Are you running it through something like OBS?

eternal cairn Jul 11, 2020, 10:15 PM

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I usually use OBS for streaming and occasional recording, but I mainly use the Elgato software for recording.

vapid crypt Jul 11, 2020, 10:16 PM

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Ah are the frame drops apparent in the recording, or just while recording?

eternal cairn Jul 11, 2020, 10:17 PM

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Both in the preview and while recording.

vapid crypt Jul 11, 2020, 10:17 PM

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Well I mean like if you were to export the recording

eternal cairn Jul 11, 2020, 10:18 PM

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If you mean when I watch the recorded video file, yes, the frame drops are still noticeable.

vapid crypt Jul 11, 2020, 10:19 PM

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Have you tried recording via OBS, if there are framedrops using that

eternal cairn Jul 11, 2020, 10:20 PM

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Yeah, I've tried recording with OBS and the frame drops are still there.

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(Also, it's not the games I'm recording.)

vapid crypt Jul 11, 2020, 10:21 PM

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Okay, so Usb 3.0; presumably using the appropriate bandwidth cable and its plugged in via at least a 3.0 port

eternal cairn Jul 11, 2020, 10:21 PM

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Yep.

vapid crypt Jul 11, 2020, 10:22 PM

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I'm not sure if it would be because of USB bandwidth

void perch Jul 11, 2020, 10:22 PM

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tried a diff usb port, usb cable?

vapid crypt Jul 11, 2020, 10:23 PM

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Cause if anything, that would just add a delay or lag with the recording. At least that's from what I understand considering there's a pretty big latency gap between the older Elgato model I have that uses 2.0

eternal cairn Jul 11, 2020, 10:23 PM

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Yeah, a different USB cable didn't make much of a difference either. I tried switching the ports, and it looked like it wasn't dropping as many frames, but it was still happening after a while.

bright shard Jul 11, 2020, 10:23 PM

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keep in mind, if you dont plug usb 3 in fast enough, it will register as USB 2 until replugged

abstract kite Jul 11, 2020, 10:23 PM

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📎 IMG_20200711_231743.jpg

bright shard Jul 11, 2020, 10:23 PM

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can be a problem for tight ports.

void perch Jul 11, 2020, 10:23 PM

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never heard of that clay

sick reef Jul 11, 2020, 10:24 PM

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It's likely you could see if it's plugged as USB 2/3 in BIOS, I presume, without having to pull out windows devkit

eternal cairn Jul 11, 2020, 10:24 PM

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When do you have to plug it in? Fast enough for what?

bright shard Jul 11, 2020, 10:24 PM

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its not talked about often, but can be easily observed.

sick reef Jul 11, 2020, 10:24 PM

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So, would that matter, clay, after a reboot.

bright shard Jul 11, 2020, 10:25 PM

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if its properly plugged in, on reboot it should register as 3.

lilac geyser Jul 11, 2020, 10:25 PM

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https://www.passmark.com/products/usb3loopback/index.php

eternal cairn Jul 11, 2020, 10:26 PM

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I even went to the trouble of plugging my Elgato into an entirely separate USB port, and it sort of worked, but the thing that really helped was unplugging my webcam.

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It was so bad before I unplugged my webcam, but it's still dropping frames, even now.

#

Yeesh, that's expensive, @lilac geyser.

sick reef Jul 11, 2020, 10:28 PM

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It could have been a bandwidth limit

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over the PCH

abstract kite Jul 11, 2020, 10:29 PM

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I guess I got no reactions from my shitty photography :(

fleet canopy Jul 11, 2020, 10:29 PM

#

o:

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Oh

sick reef Jul 11, 2020, 10:29 PM

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It is very out of focus.

fleet canopy Jul 11, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Ye, could do with a better image tbf

eternal cairn Jul 11, 2020, 10:29 PM

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^

abstract kite Jul 11, 2020, 10:29 PM

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I'll go back into the corner and cry ;-;

sick reef Jul 11, 2020, 10:30 PM

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Just stabilise your hand a bit better, and that should solve it, I believe.

abstract kite Jul 11, 2020, 10:31 PM

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I'll take one much better tomorrow anyways since I'm going to sleep now, once it's in my set up and flex on you weaklings for my own evil and destructive enjoyment when I take the next photo.

lilac geyser Jul 11, 2020, 10:31 PM

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oz: reminded me of a light show

abstract kite Jul 11, 2020, 10:31 PM

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^^

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My man got it

eternal cairn Jul 11, 2020, 10:31 PM

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When I check with USB Tree Viewer, it shows this, but I don't know why it says "High-Speed" instead of "Super Speed" when it says "Super Speed" in Connection Information V2:

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sick reef Jul 11, 2020, 10:31 PM

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Yeah. Might appeal to some.

abstract kite Jul 11, 2020, 10:31 PM

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RGB makes your pc 10x faster ;)

sick reef Jul 11, 2020, 10:32 PM

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High-Speed is 2.0

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But it could also be that the PCH is throttled to the point where it can't provide 3.0

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Depending on your computers set-up, it could run M.2 as well as SATA slots on PCH, and that takes a ton

lilac geyser Jul 11, 2020, 10:34 PM

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nazo: maybe you can plug your phone in with some app that analyzes the port

eternal cairn Jul 11, 2020, 10:35 PM

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It sounds like what Clay said is possibly true.

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Unfortunately, it seems like my device is still running at SuperSpeed.

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So the problem probably lies elsewhere.

sick reef Jul 11, 2020, 10:44 PM

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Hence, reboot

bright shard Jul 11, 2020, 10:44 PM

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glad to see im not crazy, at least mostly.

sick reef Jul 11, 2020, 10:45 PM

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But there's a few other factors. Max amperage of USB, which is better with 3.0. Max bandwith of your PCH and your throttle limit. Total max amperage across USB ports.

eternal cairn Jul 11, 2020, 10:47 PM

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Is there a way to check the bandwidth of the PCH?

sick reef Jul 11, 2020, 10:48 PM

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Motherboard specifics

eternal cairn Jul 11, 2020, 11:10 PM

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What would the ideal amperage be for USB 3.0?

sick reef Jul 11, 2020, 11:43 PM

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There's simply a max, and sometimes it has a fuse across several USB connectors that is shared.

abstract kite Jul 12, 2020, 7:42 AM

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📎 VID_20200712_081653.mp4

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my soul

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I tried doing some peel porn and it didn't work out. 😔

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You didn't fasten the side panel?

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I thought I did, it wasn't in properly.

#

On a second note

#

thats a pretty GPU

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It's a great looking one.

digital pawn Jul 12, 2020, 7:44 AM

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Wrong server sorry

abstract kite Jul 12, 2020, 7:44 AM

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@digital pawn Please don't post videos unrelated to the channel topic.

digital pawn Jul 12, 2020, 7:44 AM

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Wrong server

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Sorry

abstract kite Jul 12, 2020, 7:45 AM

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No worries, just be more careful next time.

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The amount of shit I have to optimize and get rid off on windows :(

#

Windows installs a lot of junk that you don't need sadly.

#

Yea that's unfortunate

#

If you haven't already, enable global c-states in your bios

#

helps a lot with temps.

#

I've never heard of that before, what does it do?

#

Unless I'm wrong, and there is a good chance I could be, a simplistic version to explain it is that it cuts the amount of cores down to the essential ones, and only utilizes the others if they are needed. It can lower temps and voltages to some degree.

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Basically if a game is only using 4 cores and you have a 6 core chip, you'll have two on "standby".

#

That's a very basic (and bad) explanation. 🤣

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Sounds good, I'll look into it, thanks for recommending 👍

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On the occasion that you find that you have frame stutters in game, I'd recommend turning it off.

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I've not noticed framedrops with it on, but experiences seem to vary.

dense wasp Jul 12, 2020, 1:54 PM

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No different then the standard rec spec I’d say @abstract kite 🙂

fleet canopy Jul 12, 2020, 2:01 PM

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Higher Cull = CPU works more, GPU works less
Lower Cull = GPU works more, CPU works less

fleet canopy Jul 12, 2020, 7:32 PM

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Hm.

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Smaller than a 2080 Ti, how funny

#

But that'd honestly be neat

vapid crypt Jul 12, 2020, 7:37 PM

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Smaller in what way?

fleet canopy Jul 12, 2020, 7:39 PM

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I think in length

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Oh by die

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627mm squared die

vapid crypt Jul 12, 2020, 7:40 PM

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Right

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Well that's common sense phaWesker

fleet canopy Jul 12, 2020, 7:40 PM

#

2080 Ti with a 754mm squared

#

Yeah, makes more sense really at least

vapid crypt Jul 12, 2020, 7:40 PM

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Though interesting thought

fleet canopy Jul 12, 2020, 7:40 PM

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"An unknown GPU from Nvidia, believed to be the GeForce RTX 3080, scored an impressive 18,257 in 3D Mark Time Spy tests"

vapid crypt Jul 12, 2020, 7:40 PM

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Clearly its smaller cause they can do with the smaller node

fleet canopy Jul 12, 2020, 7:41 PM

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30.98% better than the 2080 Ti overall

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"expected to be shown off within the next couple of months,will feature 5376 CUDA cores running at up to 2.2GHz, an improvement over current Turing GPUs that top out at toughly 2.1GHz"

vapid crypt Jul 12, 2020, 7:41 PM

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Smaller dies mean better yields overall so

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Wait the over 5k cuda core gpu is gonna be the 3080 ti

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The 3080 will have the same amount of cuda cores as the 2080 ti

fleet canopy Jul 12, 2020, 7:43 PM

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Oh?

#

Well maybe that was not that accurate then perhaps

#

After all, wasn't the 3070 Ti assumed to pass 2080 Ti anyways at one point?

vapid crypt Jul 12, 2020, 7:44 PM

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It should but not by a large margin

fleet canopy Jul 12, 2020, 7:44 PM

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Yeah

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But way cheaper than a whole 1200-1600$

vapid crypt Jul 12, 2020, 7:45 PM

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I'd like to put this into perspective with what AMD is doing

#

So the RX 590 is a 36 CU Polaris graphics card, it was the last Polaris card to come out.

#

When RDNA 1 came out it introduced a card with the same amount of CUs while drawing less power and performing nearly 50% better

#

RDNA 2, at least going by what AMD has stated is expected to have 50% higher performance per watt over RDNA 1

#

Does this mean another 50% performance leap on a 36 CU card? Probably not but I wouldn't doubt they could get pretty close

vapid crypt Jul 12, 2020, 10:57 PM

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https://youtu.be/tsCgG7DvDOk?t=283

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They've ended production of RTX 2000 cards, and release date for the 3080/3080 ti

abstract kite Jul 12, 2020, 11:02 PM

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Ngl Rtx 2000s were overrated, (that is unless you are planning to play one of the few games that have Ray tracing) many of my friends have had compatibility issues with the cards

#

1080 ti will smash most games rn anyways

proper wren Jul 12, 2020, 11:19 PM

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doggopeek imagine coding on a netbook

vapid crypt Jul 13, 2020, 2:03 AM

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Well this real time ray tracing is the inevitable future of continuing to expand on game graphics fidelity unfortunately, just starting off as a gimmick that you have to pay a lot upfront just to use it at acceptable performance levels

#

I suppose the DLSS tech that Nvidia is expanding on is promising, but that has a similar issue to their RTX; which is only certain games have it.

#

It just won't be worth it until there are open source alternatives to both of these things, which there kind of already is with DX12 Ultimate.

#

The API update will facilitate ray tracing pretty much

#

May or may not have something equivalent to DLSS

abstract kite Jul 13, 2020, 3:34 AM

#

I have to wonder at what threshold Discord tells you this.

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"Due to size of server-"

late sorrel Jul 13, 2020, 3:36 AM

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you can do individual channels

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that works instead

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and it’s probably at 5k

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considering that’s the default presence one can have without messaging discord admins

delicate topaz Jul 13, 2020, 6:56 AM

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69

dense wasp Jul 13, 2020, 9:33 AM

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the upgraded threadripper is so weird

#

to close to epyc, I don't really get it

fleet canopy Jul 13, 2020, 9:34 AM

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I assume RAM amount limit

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iirc the 3990X is up to around 128GB or 64GB and the TR was up to 192-256GB

dense wasp Jul 13, 2020, 9:35 AM

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yeah but now it's 2tb with 3995WX

fleet canopy Jul 13, 2020, 9:35 AM

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Wait I forget, isn't the 3990X a TR?

#

Wait yeah I'm bum dum

dense wasp Jul 13, 2020, 9:35 AM

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and PCI Express 128 × 4.0

fleet canopy Jul 13, 2020, 9:35 AM

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But that's kind of the general idea I guess

dense wasp Jul 13, 2020, 9:36 AM

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it is!
but they upgraded it even more just now

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📎 85277.jpg

fleet canopy Jul 13, 2020, 9:36 AM

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Ah, TR Pro?

dense wasp Jul 13, 2020, 9:36 AM

#

ye

fleet canopy Jul 13, 2020, 9:37 AM

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The EPYC is a server CPU and the TR being just workstation?

#

Well that's pretty funny, I never imagined a TR using 2TB of RAM

#

Nor have I seen anyone break 1-2TB of RAM with workstation

brisk badger Jul 13, 2020, 9:38 AM

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AHHH, my hair ruffles up when I hear the word "enthusiast"

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tbh i don't know why scientist etc. would use x86-64 architecture. At this pricepoint there is better solutions with RISC, ASICs and even ARMs

clear quartz Jul 13, 2020, 2:35 PM

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i dunno man

#

I'm still waiting for Dwave to release home version of their hardware

brisk badger Jul 13, 2020, 2:37 PM

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Why would they make a home version?

#

Any program you use or know would not work. Total different instruction sets

clear quartz Jul 13, 2020, 2:38 PM

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i would totally want one

brisk badger Jul 13, 2020, 2:39 PM

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Even if they make the hardware available, software would need to support it which is the biggest difficulty

clear quartz Jul 13, 2020, 2:39 PM

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they already have a few software development course going on

#

i haven't skt through them but the idea seems noice enough

#

i honestly would love tojust fiddle with the hardware itself

brisk badger Jul 13, 2020, 2:42 PM

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Well it has its purpose and for that its great. It will not get a "mainstream" instruction set like x86 because... 1001 reasons

#

Maybe you can one in some years

#

*buy

clear quartz Jul 13, 2020, 2:46 PM

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all honest it just feels like 1940s of compueters all over again

brisk badger Jul 13, 2020, 2:49 PM

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Its exciting to hear news from cpus that are not only x86-64 and maybe we can move away from it one day but idk if that ever going to happen

rugged shuttle Jul 13, 2020, 2:50 PM

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considering that proprietary software is the norm it'll be a long time before we could move away from x86

brisk badger Jul 13, 2020, 2:50 PM

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Long time ago we all should use IPv6 yet a majority of traffic is still at IPv4. Its going to be a huge problem in the future

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Yea also these cpu have such a specialized instruction set, they may calculate pi in seconds but take 20min to open a word file

rugged shuttle Jul 13, 2020, 2:51 PM

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you can get a power9 workstation right now, but there is very little support outside the open-source world

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nvidia gpus wont even work outside of cuda

brisk badger Jul 13, 2020, 2:52 PM

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I really hope the RISC architecture would replaxe x86 but i dont know enough about

rugged shuttle Jul 13, 2020, 2:52 PM

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risc isn't an arch dude

brisk badger Jul 13, 2020, 2:53 PM

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And as long as something cannot run x86 code with little performance loss we stick to x86

rugged shuttle Jul 13, 2020, 2:53 PM

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the trick is to not run x86 binaries

brisk badger Jul 13, 2020, 2:53 PM

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Risc is an instruction set like x86 is

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I may used the wrong words

rugged shuttle Jul 13, 2020, 2:54 PM

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risc just means reduced instruction set computer

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there are many isas that are "risc"

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arm, power, risc-v

brisk badger Jul 13, 2020, 2:55 PM

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Okay then its risc-v 😂

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I am on mobile and tried shorten the words