#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk
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NO
is bad investment per dollar fps
Oh
the 1650 super beats it
like 3% difference between rx 580 and 5500xt but the 580 is $70 cheaper in CAD
If you decide to just spent that extra $70 then you might as well get a 1660 or 1660s
Thank you!
I wonder if it is worth it for their 8GB
But then again 3GB was a bitch when I had my 1060 3GB
I've seen 580 4GB and 580 8GB variants, the prices are more like another 50$
But it's been a while. Perhaps AMD lowered the price gap
it’s worth it
Oh it is a 20$ diff
Although the 8GB of one of the 8GB is like on a sale
Which the retail is 380$
Hi, Im a new member of the server and im highly considering buying gtfo, im here to ask a few questions. Would anyone know if a GTX 1060 6GB i7 2600 running at 3.6ghz and 8GB of DDR3 1333mhz ram would run GTFO. Im buying a new pc soon Im just really keen on this game and not sure if my system would run it.
These days pretty much all ~10yr old systems can run games. Whether it's enough fps for you is the important question. Some people are fine with 20fps, some aren't happy with 60.
Your machine seems plenty capable for 60fps. Maybe some dips on some rare occasions
And even if you run into troubles, you can always refund on steam if playtime is under 2 hours
But does it play minesweeper? 👀
@glad hare i was able to pull workable fps with i7 3770k, 660ti sc, 1600mhz ram.
I have since upgraded to 970.
NH-U14S, NH-U12S. or NH-L9i?
Whichever you want really
I don't think temps matter too much with the NH-U14s and the NH-U12S, but the l9i is one for smaller cases
I put the L91 in there cuz it looks nice and doesn't hang off your cpu thing
it's really bad to pick hardware mainly because of cosmetics
unless you know what you are doing; the NH-L9i is not great for a 'normal' computer
I picked my all white stuff and fans for cosmetics and they're just fine :(
well this is a cooler, not a fan
idk but I heavily doubt
the: NH-L9 works with processors up to 65w usage. Anything above will throttle your CPU or even shutdown if it's too hot
Oh
if you have a modern i7 or equivalent; it'll throttle
We ain't getting that then lol
It's a small buddy
Doesn't seem like you're gonna get same performance like the NH-U12S or NH-D15 or whatever
499
little cheaper than 9900k
sry it seems the cooler can handle 95w.... but I heavily suspect with massive throttling
You're better off getting a 3900X at that point
Or an XT
And as well as getting an NH-D15 or DRP4 or NH-U14s
Just not that small one, those are for SFF really
They aren't as good as 9900k and 10700k at just gaming so I was gonna wait for zen 3 possibly
Either way again I won't have money for a while so
I could change a bunch of stuff beofre then too. I could also decide I don't wanna pay this much and get some cheaper stuff
So uead
Yeah*
People keep saying that, but the reality is that its only noticeably better when playing at 1080p and using a high end graphics card like a 2080ti
If you're using say a 5700XT, 2060 Super, 2070 Super any of that level of performance, while playing at say 1440p There's pretty much no difference
And at 1080p its maybe 3% difference on average
Same goes for 2080ti at 1440p, might be a 3 - 5% difference
me: hmm, chrome is running slow.
task manager: o.0
So I have RTX 2070 and i5 9600k but what i need help with is my corsair vengeance rgb pro which can go to 3600 mhz but when i try to change the ram speed from default ( 2133hz or something like that) my pc will crash and blue screen all the time even when its by the smallest bit. How do I do it? i check the mother board compatibility with it and alls good but idk how to do it
did you enable xmp in the bios?
yes i tried it with it on and off
also says xmp certified or something like that on teh box
xmp porbably needs to be on, also sometimes there are 2 xmp profiles to select from
Maybe check the QVL list for your motherboard. Its a list of RAM modules that are confirmed tested to work with the motherboard. It isn't an end all requirement necessarily, but it does ensure compatibility and that the RAM performs well.
You can find the list on your motherboard manufacturer's website, find the page for your specific motherboard
XT launch tomorrowowowowwo
Mm
what the fuck
Kept telling me he had x570 and b450 mobo AHHHH
oh god
what a dumbass
He shall be punished for war crimes
his punishment is a voided warranty
Maybe check the QVL list for your motherboard. Its a list of RAM modules that are confirmed tested to work with the motherboard. It isn't an end all requirement necessarily, but it does ensure compatibility and that the RAM performs well.
@vapid crypt Yeah I did this when i bought my ram yet it still doesnt work properly everything is compatible , my mobo is a Z390-A pro
might want to read product reviews for the ram to see if anyone else had to solve the problem, the most common thing is xmp setting in bios
Is there a such thing as over-engineering your database? Well, I have redundancy for both my database and load balancer now. So that's cool.
does GTFO Bot still invite you to an unrelated discord server?
iirc, it does not
also, it technically wasn’t inviting you, the code base was supporting that feature until doc split away from the destiny servers
Its still 4gb though?
Oh I see
Good lord the segmentation is insanity as it is
At least there's an appropriate name instead of what they did with the 8gb 2060 non super that is
2060 KO?
Nah that's an EVGA thing
I guess technically this 1650 Ultra is a Galaxy thing
Maybe its not a thing, I remember hearing about them making 8gb variants of the 2060
At this point it'd make total sense using 8GB
Memory capacities gotta start going up across the stack
Entry level GPUs need to be 6gb, not mid ranged
Oh?
Yeah capacities need to start going up
That's fair I guess. It's only for 1080p anyways
I mean the 2060 super is 8 gb
5700XT is too
The 5700XT is similar to a 2070 Super though 👀
Right I was saying that there was an alleged non super 2060 variant that has 8gb of VRAM
how is my build?
AMD Ryzen 3700x, asus tuf mother board 570, 1tb m.2 ssd, 16 gb ddr4 3600 mhz, 2070 super tri fan, 750 watt power supply 80 plus gold, 2tb barracuda 7200 hard drive, H510 elite case with 4 fans
sounds not bad
Definitely going to do 1440p 144hz
I was playing modern warfare at 4k with a constant 80fps, cant complain about that, switched it down to 1440p and was running around 140fps, I do eventually want to get the Kraken cooler from NZXT but for now im just using the Wraith cooler that came with the 3700x
I wonder if there's really any noticeable difference to running a higher resolution on a 1080/1440p
Aside from framerates : )
I notice a slight difference between the two graphics wise, and I notice a huge difference at 4k
Is this enough to run gtfo?
what kind of graphics card do you have?
GTFO System Requirements
Minimum:
OS: Windows 7 64-Bit or later
CPU: Intel Core i5 2500K or AMD equivalent
RAM: 8GB
HDD: 4 GB download, 10-15 GB unpacked
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 2 GB or AMD equivalent
DirectX: Version 11.0 compatible video card
Network: Broadband Internet connection
Recommended:
OS: Windows 10 64-Bit
CPU: Intel Core i7 4790K or AMD equivalent
RAM: 16GB
HDD: 4 GB download, 10-15 GB unpacked
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 or AMD equivalent.
DirectX: Version 11.0 compatible video card
Network: Broadband Internet connection
@brisk nexus
I have amd firepro w5130m
I dont think so
Alright
UnsukToday at 11:05 AM
I have amd firepro w5130m
it is performing probably worse than a Geforce RTX 660 (minimal requirements) but can still be playable if you dont mind low FPS
you can always buy a game on steam and play it for 2hours and refund it
if playable, then on low settings probably 720p resolution
Uhh
I am having a bit of a problem with my GPU.
I was playing metro Exodus and my GPU or junction temp is hitting 75-95 degrees
This was not happening before.
I can't get a screenshot, but my Wattman is reporting, 65c (Current, Ambient) and 75c-95c (Junction, GPU)
Fans are all spinning. Maybe I need to dust the GPU?
Maybe it got warmer were u live😁
Gpu shouldnt throttle at 75 degrees but i assume ur ram of the gpu is smoking hot
Is wattman reliable?
Wattman is the built-in Software for AMD Hardware @sick reef
Yeah, but for temperature readings.
amd vs nvidia?
I cannot test that with MSI Afterburner because MSI does not work on my system because reasons.
Maybe it got warmer were u live😁
@brisk badger
Not really it is pretty chilly due to Air Conditioning.
Yeah, but for temperature readings.
@sick reef
It's been pretty well so far. I have used it for around half a year now.
Here is regular temps.
At Desktop Idle.
I'm tryna lower the price a bit of my build and I was wondering if I should just get the normal O11D and not the XL version. The only differences it there's two more usb things, its bigger, and a rgb strip on the front right?
wattman is fine, crashes sometimes when in use while gaming but else okay. I don't see really anything strange, maybe screenshot during load?
XT CPU's: Hey you can now pay little extra to get a good bin
well don't have to upgrade yet wich is good
anyone know how to boost chrome download speed
i should be downloading at around 6mb/s not 100kb/s
what gpu should I get for an upgrade? currently using a 1050ti .__.)
maybe the other side does not want to send you 6MB/s 🙂
😔
probably from the source speed
if speed is fixed at 100KB/s then it's probably artificially limited by either the other side or the ISP
try to donwload something else from another website and check if it's the same
most likely it's the website only allowing you that little speed, maybe their site is overloaded
thank you to linus for calling out AMD's recent BS naming conventions
idk what website i can use to download something 😐
1660s or 20-series nvidia? or an amd gpu?
never used an amd gpu before since this was my first actual pc lol
https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-cd/debian-10.4.0-amd64-netinst.iso
(Will directly ask you to download the newest Debian Image)
and debian's servers arent guaranteed to max your speeds either
so nothing i can do to improve it
sadly not :/
well time to wait a day for this to download
Any idea what is the max acceptable temps for a I7 8th generation? I have an Asus Rog and on most games I have 90-95 max temps on my cpu. Can't really cool it better even with a cooling pad. Should I be that worried and keep my max cpu power to 99% (cooler temps 70-75) or should I just keep on playing like this
Asus rog strix scar 2 (gtx 1070, i7-8750) (yeah laptop)
yeah, cooling those is a challenge
maybe someone who knows more about overclocking can tell you about undervolting
Even tried undervolting, still no significant change
Only setting max cpu power to 99% makes it better
Thats why i asked if someone knows how bad are those temps for a longer period of time
i hope intel will start killing clock speed before any real damage can occur
most people seem to get a little worried about temps above 90 though
modern cpu's like yours will shut themselves of when they run too hot. I don't think your CPU will take damage from this, it surely is not great. More problematic though can be the hardware that is located around which also gets barbeque'd by the CPU. But don't worry too much. Trust the engineers of whoever made the notebook. If it's not HP then you should be fine 🙃
The engineers for the 5700XT tell us that the GPU is "expected" to reach 110c and be fine.
new paste / termal pads are great but require time and research. You have to open the notebook which can be difficult for some models.
Something notebook cooler with many fans can also help reduce temp a bit, or the good old book (I prefer word dictionaries) to give the notebook some air, helps greatly
lol galerus. yea... they are crazy
if you still have warranty and dont want to fix it; send it back
complain about the cooler and it's bad performance
And to your point the same engineers don't say if your other components can take it.
in the notebook everything is so cramped, the gpu can be like 10mm further away
maybe check if there is dust on your gpu cooler
I am going to blow it out with air when I get home tonight.
if it suddenly got higher with the same setup and it's not room temperature that is causing, maybe something is not alright
I hope that fixes the issue.
And to be fair I have not really cleaned it since I got it... 6-7 months ago...
I've cleaned it as well. Only thing I can do is repaste. But I will take in consideration what you said and not worry too much about it. Apart from the from time to time thermal throttle everything is fine :))
It is so odd though
Both my Current and Junction temps are sitting cozy at 35c
Idk lemme get this picture.
This is just sitting on the title screen for metro exodus.
"Current temp" got up to 72.
It's funny though. I experience no throttling.
galeru (or anyone else with an AMD card): does your utilitization look like this? I'm sitting idle at the desktop
i set the sampling interval to 0.25s
i'm just not sure what is causing spikes up to 50%
How do you get to that screen?
im in the Performance tab
As am I
That is what my screen looks like while idling on desktop
wooz: what's your sampling rate though?
default is 1s i think, and you see a much more average picture like that
Mt screen looks this this.
mine averages pretty flat too, i dont see the spikes until i incrase sample rate
Not sure where you are.
galer: that looks like the right screen
i set it to what? 0.25?
yes thats what i have
ty wooza. i wonder if its because i have relive active all the time
yes
hmm, maybe. I don't think so though as there is a co-processor doing this stuff but I am not sure. Could be a driver issue. Doesn't hurt to dig deeper what may use the gpu
and my card is less powerful than yours, so i guess by default the utilization will be higher
oki
it's a 5700XT?
no
what is it?
r9 390
that's one of a beast
odd though. When I have Wattman open, my GPU consumption is automatically 3-6%
so by having wattman open alone you may have the something contributing to the peak load
Are you talking to me?
no, to the owner of the beast (the r9 390)
we have a 2gig internet service available at my location
they want $3000 it install it and $200 a month
still liimited to 1tb/month
im not going to even do the math of how quickly i could hit that limit at that speed
they are such assholes, want to turn internet billing into a utility like water or electricity
electricity and water do have a fixed cost per unit to produce those things
whereas internet is built out as capability in speed per second
not in total bytes
charging per byte just enables them to oversell their capability
I watch streams like TV in the past. Good background noise and interesting whenever there's a dull moment.
2 streams on for as long as I'm around. 1.3-2.2 MB/s
End of the month I hover between 3-4.5 TB system data usage.
It's excessive for sure, but I was surprised how much such use amounts to
windows has a basic counter for system data usage if people are curious.
"data usage overview" in start menu
Is it normal for Google to keep asking me to sign into email when doing google search?
So yes or no?
i mean depends
it’s pretty normal
imo
if you don’t click the save login
if you do click the save login button, no
It's never happened to me before though.
I'm doing virus scans now, but quick scan didn't turn up anything.
Chrome.
After I finished unemployment stuff, it started to redirect me to email sign in whenever I typed something into search bar.
It's never happened to me before, so why now?
Can razer blade just release Witherspoon ryzen4000 already 😦 I need a travel laptop
That’s feel like quite the assumption that all Razer Blades insta die after warranty 😛
The G14 (which I assume you are referring to with the ASUS one) is really nice
I do prefer the blade in terms of design
razer wanted me to create an account to use their rgb software for a keyboard
i returned it to the store the next day
gotta go with the corsair macro game
I don’t really use rgb stuff, but yeah I get that’s annoying 😅
Or I mean I do have a xtrmy m4 mouse and keyboard, but I turned the rgb off most of the time
Or just have it shine white
But yeah, Razer tax indeed,
They are sleek thou, the blades, but expensive as crap
what is witherspoon though?
probably codename of it
I seen the Razor RMA 
Razer laptop keyboards are awful.
Took another look at the G14, impressive specs
How are the Asus ROG laptops?
I hope they fixed the thermals on the Zephyrus series
@abstract kite to be able to work during vacation. 😉
i do have to say razer has a really nice wrist rest
Fair
Linus works during vactaion 
hello need some pc advice
i have an acer nitro 5 laptop with 250gb of ssd
i have a 2.5 inch slot free and i want to upgrade
i use this pc mostly for gaming
but i do not want to break the bank. 60-70 pounds max
I also live in the uk
what do i get?
hdd or ssd? if hdd what rpm
I would go ssd
Eh, I'd go with a HDD tbh
He already has an SSD, so he can use that for OS, and the HDD comes pretty damn cheap with the speed and storage size
i'd say, get TWO ssds, and a HDD
Anyone know if there's any GUI to control the fan settings in Linux for Vega 64?
fancontrol-gui ?
Will check. Never heard of that one
my last computer had 1tb and couldnt run dayz
kept stuttering
so i am more cautious
That would just be your overall PC
I don't think an SSD affects that
Dayz/ArmA games are more CPU heavy afaik
Maybe a little on the GPU, but def CPU heavy
i couldnt run it on low detail with a hdd
could could run it on an inferior one with an ssd
Well that's kind of ridiculous that a game wouldn't run just because of a storage unless it's old/slowing down/dying
Or drive is literally full
A drive performance comes into play when loading things like initially loading a game. After that it's RAM for storing in memory, CPU and GPU for processing data and graphics
Yeah but an HDD should not make it not run
A failing hard drive or something shouldn't effect the game's performance outside of loading it
Unless obvious disk storage problem like it shitted on you and you can't use it anymore
so i can use any old hdd for gaming?
well not old
but the whole 5600 rpm or 7200 rpm is not important
?
For cheap, high storage HDD, I can recommend Seagate Barracuda
5400 vs 7200 rpm difference is uhh
will i be able to play gtfo off of it
It has to be a 2.5' drive
I don't think there's too much considerable notice if you don't mind a bit of a load
2.5' don't go higher than 5400rpm I think
Load times aren't a big deal
fps or stuttering
But it shouldn't effect framerate at all
🙂
There's only one series of drives that are 10k
And I'm pretty sure they standard 3.5"
does it matter too much?
It doesn't
I guess if you wanted you could get a firecuda drive
Those are hybrid drives
It uses standard disk platters for storage, and flash memory for cache
Wait I forgot what HDD sizes there were lmfao
does anyone know where I can get cheap windows 10 keys
I am having a hard time finding keys and i am buying parts for my new pc
i refuse to pay the full 200 for the software
lol imagine paying 200 for windows 10
Kek
I think they offer a free download, but you'll be arsed with the Activate Windows
You can use that for now until you find a win 10 key for cheap
Just a watermark saying "Activate Windows"
bruh so nvm
A bit bothersome, I used to just pirate it lmfao
i could care less im not trying to make it look aesthetic
It works for about a month, and then I pirated it again and again until I had an actual key for it
lmao
You can also just reuse your windows 10 key
as long as I can run games
I just pay $30 for the underthetable version
i used a laptop for windows
and I am lending it to my friends after im done with it
Problem is I cant use mah email due to it being a third party key and breaking EULA
👀
You cant take windows key out of laptops unfortunately
lul
what i thought
Microsoft can offer a free key nonetheless
glad im trashing that garbage laptop tho
Chrome OS can go fuck itself
Because laptop windows 10 are different from regular windows
But also Google can go fuck itself with their shittops 😳
It's god awful
agreed
And the fucking touchpad, ugh
It went full crap on me
400$ crappers
I'd rather pay 400$ for a toilet roll than a chromebook
Oh uh the other difference with unactivated windows is you can't customize the theme cause Aero is disabled
yeah ik that
Still toilet paper
its all ✨ aesthetic✨
Toilet paper more valuable than laptop from chrom
fr
I'm surprised people are still buying out the paper, even with store restrictions
I don't think i have ever thought of dropping a laptop
maybe drop kick a chromebook
Mm
I'd uhh
Get a big pot
Fill it with water, boil it
Then maybe some spaghetti, bit of salt
Then I'd empty the pot through a colander, underneath a bowl with about every chromebook Google's made
:)
add the salt before the spaghett
heres a question
do i save 6 pound on delivery but wait 2 months for a cable
si
should be just a slot that you need some screws for
nah for the acer nitro 5 you do
I've never heard of that for any laptop
How it usually works is there's a slot for power and data and you just plug it in
It says in the video that the ribbon cable comes with the laptop
any tips on how to clean a fan that is too small for q tips
Compressed air
thanks
is this normal when browsing firefox? or would a dusty fan cause this. I recently changed the thermal paste but its effect was temporary
i use a laptop cooler when gaming, but it kind of defeats the purpose of a laptop
would cleaning the fans help this?
Sure you could use a combination of those things
can i use your vacuum cleaner

why is canned air so expensive
why is oil cheaper than canned air
i dont see the us going to war over canned air
Oil prices just plummeted because it lost its value in the past few months
I recommend buying oil stocks while they're still low, personally

Is anybody well versed in Windows Screen recording??
eew
Game bar is probably like
Yeah, sorry no idea
The most horrible thing to use
I always use Shadowplay/Adrenaline or OBS
If you want the game to be recorded or something, yeah OBS
if you want quick replay, use shadowplay/adrenaline
I like having my captures in one place, it's what I use for everything
OBS gives me a hard time whenever I try to use it...
OBS is way more powerful/versatile , just harder to learn.
if you learn through reading and want to just quickly focus on what you need to know, try the offical documentation
Is it able to get both game and background audio?
I think I'm honestly just gonna say "Screw it" and just do game audio. It's so fucking frustrating
yes, its been a while since i have used it. so the updates have changed the interface for me, maybe someone else can chine in on a good guide or a way to do this
yeah, it does that
I think that car wash may have stolen your graphics card xD
At least the 'novideo' card has working drivers ;)
lol
Honestly, im convinced at this point that price to performance between nvidia and amd cards is equal, but you pay a premium for working drivers lmao
lel
Like, my old RX580 would constantly have stuttering or black screen issues
It was always a simple fix, go in to software and disable X Y or Z feature
But it always raised the question of why do i bother
So I've had issues like that before with older drivers, the most recent problem I had was with Nioh crashing the drivers; but that was a game specific driver issue. Other than that I haven't had any problems with the drivers
For nvidia, cant say ive ever had an issue with the drivers, except for that weird csgo one a few months ago, and playing games from nearly 20 odd years ago
Also, tbf, the csgo one was because of something volvo did
Hi can someone help me build my pc
hi clappi and millaxo, i will try to help answer your specific questions
@flat pilot are you sure you don't want to learn on how to make your own PC? Or buy a PC? Notebooks are... not great for gaming. And gaming notebooks cost way more than a PC that is 1.5x to 2x faster and less noisy
You can also purchase a prebuilt, NZXT uses off the shelf parts so all their prebuilts would be something any builder would put together
I wouldn't exactly recommend prebuilts either
They always got something fucky, like PSU is bad, cabling is absolutely horrendous, or some whatever the fuck they get away with
Thats why I mentioned they used off the shelf parts, you dont get generic branded RAM, Boards, etc.
I still honestly can't recommend prebuilts still, kek
Same as paying a friend to build you a PC with a budget
they come recommended by a bunch of tech youtubers
Eh, I guess it's better than nothing
At least you just got to be careful for what you pay for kek
for sure, thats why you wanna do your research and verify the parts youre getting
especially if its something generic "16gb RAM"
great cool, what brand tho 
DDR4-2400Mhz CAS18 with a ryzen build 
green board and green ram 
Working today with an IT Security company on a project
Found out they use a website to generate their passwords 😀 🔫
: )
Using password generators is the most stupidest thing you could ever do
Safety my ass, I don't want to forget
if it's an application that is open source, I give you a pass
A website could, if they wanted, exactly know what passwords you generated. I wouldn't be surprised if hacker target such sites
also a password is never random, especially not when the PC is creating it
Wut
Nice
Not mine * worth mentioning
Not yours...yet
That's a CPU processor :D
a massive one at that
^
is this the 32 cores one ?
i don't think much is known
eh
depends on what happens to the 3990x then
or the epyc chip with the same specs
seems like a paper launch
just to show they can
the 3990x is not marketed for server hardware, this pro threadripper will be (Max RAM support is probably 2TB, no more 4-channels but 8. Rumors tho)
So I blew my GPU out and it doesnt seem to have worked
I dropped my FPS from minimum of 90-95 to 60-65. I loaded the game and dropped my texture quality to medium and I was still pushing a bit past 65c-80c
GTFO sits at 60c Ambient/Current - 65c Junction/GPU
it probably is indeed the room temperatur 🙂
my gpu also got ~8° warmer during this month
My bedroom is cool though due to AC. 🤔
Whats ur room temperature
Like 65F-72F comparing to 75F-90F outside since this heatwave.
Pray be for rain soon.
It's more or less directly in front of it give or take a medium sized gap with nothing blocking air flow.
Hmm. Dunno. I would still say its just the increased room temps
Fair enough.
Let me ask. My GPU manufacturer says that it can reach up to 110c before Thermal Throttling occurs saying that the Silicon can handle the immense heat, but can the rest of the PC handle the GPU kicking off that kind of heat?
technically, you could set your bios to not throttle till 1000 degrees if you wanted to, guarantee it will shut itself down well before that tho
and thats not even taking in to account for temperature induced degradation
as far as the rest of your computer goes, it really depends on how much airflow you have in your build i suppose. but probably not an issue overall.
also, obligatory post about getting my tax return, and its the perfect excuse to get a 3080ti on launch
TJMax is usually safe stuff. Are you certain your fans are running properly?
Its a reference model 5700XT isn't it? The heat is being shot out the rear, not into the rest of the system.
That's the only perk of those shroud blower coolers, the heat is kept away from the rest of the system. Though largely irrelevant when using a properly ventilated case with a good axial cooler card
Hey so i saved up a bit and im gonna buy a new CPU soon but idrk which one i should go for
kinda leaning towards ryzen but im not so Sure
Gigabyte Z370P motherboard btw
idrk if my chipset even supports ryzen cpus
if its a Z370 you dont really get a choice
millaxo: short answer is probably, long answer is we need to know the specs of the laptop
i3-8350k
idrm my cpu but 4 threads is kinda meh
especially with newer games it struggles
eur or usd?
millaxo: primarily the cpu and the graphics card
Okayy I'll do some more research. Thanks @lilac geyser ! ❤️
Is it bad if wires touch the AIO tubes?
I suppose it depends if they are bare wires or not ;)
Otherwise, no, doesnt matter at all
Multiple gpus is still good
Pretty much
Depending on what you're using it for
Then no
This one here is rendering
Those are 4 980tis
If you can get a good deal on second hand cards, its still not terrible
Does skew the price to performance a bit tho
Personally, i wouldnt
But if you got say, a pair of broken 1080tis on the cheap
Probably
I know a guy who sold a 1080ti and bought a 5700xt
Sorta confused me a bit
Honestly, dont know
I asked him and his only response was ah fuck, you're an nvidia fanboy
I mean, i cbf buying amd cards with that reasoning
Make em work for it
Do the same thing for their gpus they did with cpus
Id buy whatever makes it worth my money
Turing just wasnt worth my money over pascall
And neither was anything amd had to offer
So i stuck with my 1080ti
At launch, wasnt worth getting anything other than a 2080ti for RTX
thank god i got mine cheap
Now, id consider a 2060 for raytraced minecraft
I was fine with 1400 bucks for the best consumer card on the market
Next get at 2500 tho
That really put me off
Also, for reference thats new zealand dollars, not us
A price increase of like 70-80% for a 30% jump in performance
Even with raytracing, that was a hard pass
Im happy with my 8700k, but if i was building that computer again today
Id definitely go AMD
if you mean me amd aint compatible with my chipset
Nah, with a z370 youll be stuck with intel
Also, make sure that you update your bios for 9th gen compatibility
i mean theres stil 50€ more i could spend but id rather save that for my HTC or oculus
Also, make sure that you update your bios for 9th gen compatibility
@restive garnet pretty sure it already is
idrk tho
Phanteks Neon controlled with iCue.
Doesnt hurt to double check
looks sick
I bought a special adapter that converts standard LED strip connector to a locking dupont connector that Corsair uses for their devices.
Looks fairly well put together
Looks really niceee
Sorta proud of you shawn
cable management could be better 
lmao
At least my cable management is better than average.
Better than the verge
And thats what counts
Really tho, cable management is a skill you gain over time
The only downside to this method is that Corsair treats the strips as one of theirs which has 10 LEDs.
For the moment, id be proud of it
You can tell Corsair that there are more strips to get more LEDs.
But you can only have 60 LEDs per channel.
I mean its enough i think
So I have to have two 28 LED strips per channel to be under 60.
The other option is to buy the 4 pin adapter and tell Corsair that it is RGB fans,
But some animations will display out of order.
How much will it cost?
That we don't know
For the 3080ti it says $999 but that can't be fully trusted
They can change prices whenever
Course it also says 7nm, now we're hearing that they're most likely going with Samsung's 8nm
who knows, who knows
96CU Navi though, that's way bigger than what people have been hearing about an 80CU card
I do hope they make white colored cards.
HOF cards are white
Some guy sent me this (not in server and won't give names) is this even possible?
Oh GALAX
(Sorry for interrupting)
Yeah that is possible
You will get base stock 5700XT performance, maybe more so within 3%
Bit a scam nonetheless?
If you sell it as 5700XT then yes
They did lol
5700 with a flashed bios is close in performance, but its missing a vrm phase and 4CUs
Well whoever bought it would be scammed
@jade ermine I avent seen you in a bit. Glad to see you're still with us.
Hehe
I don't post that much
So I suppose Coreteks hit it on the head regarding the top end Navi card. Based on the die size of 505 mm² he figured out that 96CUs would be totally possible
That would make it extremely potent card
Well they aren't pulling punches, if it was 80CU I'm not sure how well it would do. I imagine its cutdown 6900 would be the 80CU card though.
Seeing as that's been a consistent rumor
There should be more leaks coming out soon i think, Atleast from novideo
exciting times when you are eyeballing new GPU
Yeah, I think it's unlikely that their flagship will be faster than novideo's but they usually have the price on their side lol
RDNA 2 will be a promising step, RDNA 3 will be their Zen 2 moment
Id like to think that the whole 2000 series was just a commitment to a colossal misjudgement
And that hopefully, they learnt their lesson
Time will tell tho
They loved getting over $1000 on 1080tis during the mining craze
So that was their excuse to push pricing
They admitted that it was a mistake tho
Kinda hard not to when your company loses over 75% of its value in the following 6 months
I'm not sure I buy them admitting it as a mistake since they kept the pricing the same until they released the Super refreshes
Im just now realizing that i buy all my high end computer parts at the worst possible times
I mean, tthey admitted it
But they basically doubled down on it
A half hearted apology if you want to call it that
In my mind its not even that, its a double down with a small olive branch
"Sorry about the pricing guys, but still we're gonna keep the 2080ti at 25% above MSRP on top of the 70% increase from the previous iteration."

Their investor statement was something along the lines of "we misjudged both the demand from the crypto market, and how much consumers are willing to pay"
Intel will start sweating profusely if a large majority of people ever move away from 1080p... whenever that'll be
see, i’d move to 2k
They are definitely sweating already
but it’s just out of reach for me
Sure I just mean it would mean losing their gaming crown if 1080p is ever antiquated
2ks can get expensive real quick
Their gaming crown is already virtually non existent
That's literally the only selling point for them at this point
"Oh we're faster cause 1080p"
You can basically match dollar to fps out of amd, intel just hits a higher peak
yeah, 2k is too expensive rn
With exception of anythjng beyond 3700/3800
Video cards are exceeding 1080p, yet higher resolution displays aren't coming down in price to match
If you wanna get a 2k 60hz tn panel, its pretty cheap
But as you start slapping on more features, you end up slapping on more hundreds
My 3440x1440 curved 100hz ips was like 1700 nzd
2K isn't too expensive tbh
Just getting the ips version was like 400 bucks more on its own
i would want either 1080p 240 or 2k 144
If you're gonna go for 2K 144hz on TN, that can be found fairly cheap
Or go bum, and get the new 1440p 240Hz
lul
I doubt im gunna go back from ultrawides any time soon
Unless i move to a triple monitor
Definitely would be nice to get a higher refresh rate tho
Without spending like 3-4 grand
It's pretty cheap if you're gonna do 1080p
That samsung odyssey G9 looks really dope
Yeah I got a couple of 1080p IPS panels for around $100
Still need a 1440p 144hz or a 1080p 144-180-240Hz I guess
But id wager it wont be on the close side of 6 grand
G7 is pretty good, but thats still expensive af anyway
288Hz when 
Apparently the G9 is up for pre order on the korean samsung site for like 1700USD
Not nearly as bad as i thought
3440x1440 144hz
dlss 2.0 will be god sent
Despite exchange rate only being a touch over 1600
900 bucks in taxes, import fees and mark ups
Hell, i wouldnt be surprised if that g9 ends up being about 4 grand here
Oh shit
My local comp shop has a listing for it
2900 nzd
Actually surprisingly well priced
The 2080 is $1,100?
The strix 2080ti afaik is an 1100 msrp
I wouldn't even count that
Same model here is 2500
yes
Wow 
Lmao
I have to uh interject though, cause it would be 5700XT not 5700 XT
I don't think they'll be doing too many XT refreshes for the CPUs though
Yeah
I mean, aside from the obvious, that would almost be enough to sway me away from team green
I think it's only just to gain a boost against Intel
Having the CPUs and GPUs with the same name? 
Nah, having a full blown ryzen based card
lel
Honestly it might not even get to be called the Ryzen 5000 series
They might switch it up tbf
Nah, if they just straight up used a 3700 in place of the gpu
Or a 3950x lul
16 core gpu lmaooo
That's pretty weak tbh 
Would definitely perform worse in the graphics department
If a compute unit = a core
But it would be good to see them applying their ryzen success to their gpus
Whether literal or metaphorical
Getting 5700xt would be a bottleneck for your 5700xt
They started with 5000 as a nod to their 50th anniversary
Though personally it reminds me of one of their most prolific GPU lines which was the HD 5000 series
Where they were unmatched for a good 6 months
I personally loved the hd 7000 series
They had some seriously solid budget options
Every so often i come across some mad lad with a 7770 or 7970
Like damn son
Throw back to the days when a 300 dollar graphics card was considered near top of the line
More like 399 I think, but yeah its a shame that its 4x that now
Last time i bought a 7770 they were like 350 nzd
That would have been nearly 10 years ago tho
About 7 at a rough guess
Yeah, 7 years ago
So that was a $160 card in the US at launch
Coz it was right at the launch of the 8000 cards
R5 R7 R9 2xx cards
Yeah their naming got kind of weird after that
I don't know why they didn't just go to 8000
It was a weird time trying to understand their nonmenclature
I basically gave up till about the 400 series
They dropped the weird number thing by then and just settled on RX
Exactly why i picked it up then lul
Idk why, but i just couldnt wrap my head around the random prefixes
Its supposed to be a tier thing I guess
Like everything below R9 was like rudimentary graphics
I couldnt understand why they needed to denote tiers beyond the model number
Aside from things like the 295
They added X2 to that right?
Honestly, cant remember for the life of me
At the time i had a mate who was building a 290 based comp
Bought everything but forgot power supply
So he picked up the cheapest one he could get
And you can probably guess what happened next
F
It was his first time building a comp
Well
And he didnt have any guidance
That's fair
are the required specs on the store page accurate?
Probably not
The recommended specs for GTFO?
You can probably go lower
I mean sure it all depends, but they did develop the game using those specs
If we are strictly talking can it run
So for optimal performance that's a sure thing
In terms of an enjoyable experience, i cant say
the game looked pretty heavy on effects and I thought it would be higher
They've been developing the game since 2015 on mid range pcs from that era
Id wager i could get it running on my old laptop
Just gotta turn down textures and yeah good to go
I3 3217U with 4 gigs ram and no gpu
1050 would more so be slightly faster than the min spec card
didn't your head hurt lol?
Payday 2 on 10FPS 👀
Been there, done that
10fps Payday 2 is actually pretty common even on a good pc
what infamy?
Go to the Big Bank, and watch the framerate tank
Ive been to 25-100 and back more times than i can count
Yeah I played all the maps, apart from the latest ones that came out last week
I got to about
Ngl, it lost meaning by infamy 13
Infamy 5 legit before Crime Spree was a thing
I didn't play the mexican dlcs
Oh I forgot to buy the new DLC actually
are they any good?
Uh not really
I had like 600-800 hours but I resetted my character cause I was bored as fuck and wanted to go new again
Did it about 3 times lul
I actually played the first one and it seemed like an asset flip
Some of the youtubers i watch reckon its a pretty lacklustre map
Its not much better than what some modder could throw together
Filled with meaningless objectives
Maybe be new DLC is better, but I'm not gonna shell out money for crap like that anymore
That's just Overkill running out of good ideas
Go here, find this, go there, defend that, rinse and repeat
Its not much better than what some modder could throw together
@vapid crypt waaay worse than what modders did
The peak Payday 2 time was 2014-2016
After that it kind of started to go a bit downhill over time
Snipers everywhere
I remember when you could finish safehouse Nightmare on the hardest difficulty ezpz
Just look down :)
Oh meltdown
And the map is still fun, even if the mission is shit
meh, I lost the interest to play on the highest difficulties
If I can't see em, they can't see me!
Hahahahaha
I think its funny that you can take the forklifts all the way to the train
I miss safehouse nightmare
The baby masks lol
Good lord
Going full ironman with thanatos and lmgs
I used to kick anyone using the angry baby mask
the only armor build I enjoyed was when stoic was good
Idk, j just hate it
lmao
like in that first 3 weeks
It was ugly as shit tbf
There wasnt a lot of shield penetration in those days tho
i miss farming hortox breakout
And ammo wise, the lighter rifles werent much better
God haha
i went full 4 turrets
Hoxton Breakout on Overkill was the best grinding one
and 1 ammo bag
A good reward for a fairly short mission, was simple and easy


