Online says it runs at 1.35-4 vcor voltage.
#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk
abstract kite
vapid crypt
The voltage is set rather high by default in earlier bios revisions for Zen 2 processors
Its pretty much the reason why people have had heat issues with it, its worth looking up how to undervolt the chip. It will not only reduce heat output, but also improve performance.
abstract kite
That's the thing thoe, the most highest temps that happened i got from it is somewhere around 60•.
Thanks for the information, I'll look it up. Do you know if that would cause gaming performance issues?
vapid crypt
Then don't worry about what it says in the bios
I'm pretty sure the voltage settles where it needs to be depending on the clocks its running at
Its all automatic
abstract kite
how do i make that big enough to use as my pfp
like how do i make it big and similar to my pfp on discord
vapid crypt
You'd have to find a larger resolution version of the same image, upscaling it doesn't work. It will always end up with how it looks now.
ashen nimbus
it why digial enhance in movies is BS
fleet canopy
Just buy a 4K camera smh
abstract kite
true
abstract kite
So apparently, Metro Exodus acts like Wall Paper Engine. It hates Corsair products and colors from ICUE software.
fleet canopy
lol
restive garnet
if it makes you feel any better
worms WMD wouldnt launch for me because it hates razer chroma
abstract kite
I am mistaken. Metro uses the ICIE software to immerse myself
restive garnet
so i uninstall chroma, launch the game
first thing i see
powered by razer chroma
fleet canopy
lel
restive garnet
also, el demonio was right earlier, 1.4-1.5V is normal on a 3600 at idle, when it goes under load you'll see it drop to ~1.3V ish
stiff tartan
Hey guys, while playing GTFO my pc has crashed twice (while playing on Ultra and on High settings) which ive never had with any game
I cant really find the problem so im asking around
My Specs:
restive garnet
was literally just about to ask for those lmao
stiff tartan
yes i know
vapid crypt
Since its GTFO related and this is the only game where you're having that issue, I would request help in #gtfo-technical-support
fleet canopy
Buy a 3300X
restive garnet
a K series I3 with a Z370 board
fleet canopy
Very good deal
restive garnet
lmfao
stiff tartan
Give me the money then
vapid crypt
Also I didn't know unlocked i3s existed
fleet canopy
lol damn
restive garnet
sorry, but i feel obligated to roast your part choices
vapid crypt
Outside of those old weird Extreme series i3s
restive garnet
also, did i see only 8 gb ram?
stiff tartan
Yes
vapid crypt
Imagine getting an Extreme i3 cpu for your X299 board
fleet canopy
Maybe tone those graphics down a bit, set the CPU cull loading to very low
restive garnet
ripip
fleet canopy
You pretty much slapped in a bum bum PC together
Kinda good at some things
Not so good in the other
vapid crypt
Its running in single channel isn't it?
stiff tartan
I mean i play everything at high-ultry graphics with ~100fps so no problems for me lmao
stiff tartan
Yea
restive garnet
i think you definitely made some very odd choices
fleet canopy
yeah
restive garnet
your pairings are really off
fleet canopy
Should have upgraded it altogether
stiff tartan
Shadow of the Tomb raider On ultra around 80-100 fps
fleet canopy
What resolution?
stiff tartan
2k
stiff tartan
1080p
restive garnet
1080P isnt 2k
fleet canopy
kek
restive garnet
weird marketing bullshit
stiff tartan
its 5 42 here
vapid crypt
Actually, real 2k is slightly wider 1080p
restive garnet
y i k e s
fleet canopy
2K 4K 8K no one cares
vapid crypt
But that doesn't matter
restive garnet
yeah
fleet canopy
It's a lot better just saying 1080p 1440p 2160p
stiff tartan
also half drunk but thats not the point here
restive garnet
been there done that
restive garnet
this whole weekend has been an alcohol fueled blur
stiff tartan
Well i already ordered 8gigs of ram
stiff tartan
saving up for a new cpu and that should be it for now
vapid crypt
2 4gb sticks?
stiff tartan
because i dont have infinite money
fleet canopy
You can't just use 8GB and 8GB together like it'll work
restive garnet
i would imagine that your 2 issues are probably CPU and ram
fleet canopy
16GB at 3200Mhz CAS16 can be found for as low as 50$
stiff tartan
Cpu usage ingame is 70-80 with discord and chrome
restive garnet
at least, assuming its a hardware issue
vapid crypt
I doubt its a hardware issue
stiff tartan
^
vapid crypt
Though I would figure out what the hell is going on with your RAM set up too 
stiff tartan
My friend basically has the same specs just 16gb ram
fleet canopy
Like I saw 32GB at 3200/3600Mhz CAS16 for like 110$, when it's regularly 150$ or around that
restive garnet
well, 9 times out of 10 it is
stiff tartan
and he has no problems
vapid crypt
Not to be safe, but to be efficient
restive garnet
or a driver issue
fleet canopy
Fucking goddamn space barkey
stiff tartan
the temps are also pretty normal
fleet canopy
Annoying the fuck outta me lol
stiff tartan
atleast for a game like that
restive garnet
should see the intel HEDT
stiff tartan
Why?
@fleet canopy Also because OCD and i hate having different pairings
restive garnet
cheaper to get a 10980xe than a 9980xe
stiff tartan
A single 8GB stick oooor?
@fleet canopy opting to that
so i can build in another if necessary
vapid crypt
Build another computer, I mean I doubt it would be necessary
fleet canopy
I'd recommend just rebuying 2x8GB sticks unless it's the exact model of the one ram that shitted on you
This space bar is seriously
Fucking annoying honestly lmao
stiff tartan
what keyboard?
restive garnet
thought you were gunna say gay
vapid crypt
What's wrong with it?
restive garnet
lmao
stiff tartan
my spacebar is also leaning towards one side and sometimes not working
fleet canopy
Sometimes I'll press it and it won't even register
stiff tartan
But only if i use it on that side
fleet canopy
Like it literally didn't register 2x in a row just now
stiff tartan
just get a new keyboard 5head
fleet canopy
Shut
restive garnet
lmao
vapid crypt
Mechanical right?
restive garnet
pull all the caps off and clean it out
vapid crypt
Uh just make sure something isn't blocking its travel
stiff tartan
Maybe spilled somethign and it got sticky?
restive garnet
see if that helps
fleet canopy
Last time I spilled something onto it was like
2 years ago with uhhh
V8 juice
Now that was a nightmare
stiff tartan
bruh
restive garnet
bruh
restive garnet
tbf, my keyboard is like 90% rum and coke at this point
fleet canopy
Hahaha
stiff tartan
tbf, my keyboard is like 90% rum and coke at this point
@restive garnet lmao
vapid crypt
The one time I spilled something, it was on the laptop I used to use often
fleet canopy
We all got something dirty we're not gonna bother to clean anyways
restive garnet
kraken rum tho
vapid crypt
Ended up taking the T key with it
restive garnet
only the best for my keyboard
stiff tartan
The last time i spilled something was because my idiot dog ran against my table and i got scared and hit my glass
o
vapid crypt
I got this keyboard though, and been using it ever since for a good 2 years
stiff tartan
all over my keyboard and mousepad
restive garnet
alcohol is used because it evaporates
sadly, i dont think that the rum is going anywhere on its own
fleet canopy
Yeah I gotta be a bit more careful now, I have a dog in my house now lel
I mean
Where'd the rum go in that one pirates of the carribean movie?
vapid crypt
Apparently this keyboard is water resistant cause it has drain holes, and it works I've seen a video of someone running the tap on it for a bit then letting it dry for an hour or so
restive garnet
at least my keyboard smells nice tho
stiff tartan
@restive garnet If you keep spilling things your keyboard will develop a super drug
fleet canopy
W-w-w-where's the rum gone?
restive garnet
why is the rum always gone?
fleet canopy
Why is the rum gone?
restive garnet
tbf, i dont actually spill much on my keyboard
fleet canopy
"Why's the rum gone" if that's the full one
restive garnet
i just tend to have game nights where i spill drinks on my mousepad
vapid crypt
I wouldn't advise it 
fleet canopy
Line Us Sex tips
restive garnet
bitwit gives much better sex tips
fleet canopy
Lies!
restive garnet
just remember to screw with confidence
vapid crypt
"I like his style."
fleet canopy
lol
stiff tartan
Im confused lmao
vapid crypt
That's the exact reason why you see those old Beersteins with lids on em
fleet canopy
My hair is seriously due for a brushing
stiff tartan
Who drinks whiskey outta these
fleet canopy
Even though I did it just this morning
restive garnet
only 4gb
stiff tartan
3 tabs?
restive garnet
rookie
fleet canopy
That'd be Firefox though
I'm getting 32GB to even get a single Chrome tab open
Now I'll be able to finally use Chrome
stiff tartan
Just download ram lmao
restive garnet
vapid crypt
Good God
restive garnet
ask me no questions, ill tell you no lies
fleet canopy
Why not?
stiff tartan
Im literally getting an aneurysm when i have more than 5 opened
fleet canopy
After all, someone's gotta keep tabs on things
restive garnet
i mean, facebook, gmail and youtube are always open
stiff tartan
I swear id just interally collapse with that many tabs
vapid crypt
I like a open a handful of youtube tabs, watch the videos then close em all
restive garnet
there 3 tabs for custom steelbook cases
fleet canopy
Same
restive garnet
2 tabs for stardew valley tutorials
vapid crypt
Are you loading up Stardew often?
fleet canopy
I just open all the videos I see interesting, then just yeet the main page away, seeing 2-6 tabs of videos
stiff tartan
I just open all the videos I see interesting, then just yeet the main page away, seeing 2-6 tabs of videos
@fleet canopy I just put them all into "watch later" and never toucch them again
bc i forget
restive garnet
not terribly much, im just to lazy to find them every time i need them
fleet canopy
You either watch it or die of boredom
vapid crypt
Yeah I mean I have to agree with the statement "digital hoarding"
stiff tartan
Because im not permanently on my pc
vapid crypt
That is a terribly accurate
stiff tartan
I was quite busy and usually just pushed videos into wl on my breaks
vapid crypt
The algorithm is a blessing and a curse
stiff tartan
Its more of a curse
vapid crypt
Well I mean Google is a Curse on everything in general, but besides that
fleet canopy
Algorithm ain't too bad if you don't mind it
stiff tartan
fleet canopy
All I get are tech videos, Modern Warfare and Siege
fleet canopy
Occasionally I'll get those sorts of videos, both of those I have seen due to algorithm
stiff tartan
stiff tartan
I fucking hatge siege
fleet canopy
Ok
vapid crypt
Wow
stiff tartan
I lost so many braincells while playing this game
vapid crypt
My buddy was not exaggerating that game really is shit
vapid crypt
I would ALT+F4 Uninstall
fleet canopy
lel
stiff tartan
Idk where you play but in EUW everyone is complaining
stiff tartan
I once played with some dudes from NA
fleet canopy
200 ping?
fleet canopy
What ping doe
stiff tartan
even with high ping its easier than EUW
fleet canopy
lel
stiff tartan
i had like 160
fleet canopy
Think it's like
fleet canopy
Just how good the servers are on regions
vapid crypt
That reminds me how Killing Floor just puts me on German servers so my ping is over 140 at all times
fleet canopy
Haha
vapid crypt
My friend had to put together a local server so the ping wasn't shit
fleet canopy
If there were any server that was fucking horrible, it'd usually be Asia and German servers
stiff tartan
Theyre just tech inspired
fleet canopy
But why do we get fucking chinese on the goddamn game servers
stiff tartan
so many ppl have beast pcs there
restive garnet
i cant comment on oceania siege
restive garnet
90% of my experiences there have been drunk
fleet canopy
All around
stiff tartan
Lmao
vapid crypt
Oh with connection?
restive garnet
including one time i decided it would be a great idea to do half and half rum and cokes
stiff tartan
i just say australia lol
vapid crypt
Yeah its pretty weird
restive garnet
3 mugs in and i was wasted
stiff tartan
the other countries i forget or say its asia
restive garnet
about a litre of rum in the space of half an hour ish
stiff tartan
I swear to god
anyone here plays league?
Anyways i was once so extremely high on acid i somehow played good and went on a winning streak
fleet canopy
lol imagine playing lol
restive garnet
lol
stiff tartan
when i watched the replays i played better than when i was sober
fleet canopy
lol
vapid crypt
fleet canopy
lol lol
stiff tartan
i dont have any other games i really play atm
restive garnet
i used to do overwatch competitive placement matches as a drinking game
fleet canopy
lol
restive garnet
a shot at the start of every game, another if we lost
restive garnet
i quit after they nerfed my hoggo
stiff tartan
I wait 12min+ queue to get either completely shat on my the enemy team
or to get a leaver or someone who wont cooperate
especially in top 500
vapid crypt
I wouldn't know, I just play TF2 sometimes in a blue moon
fleet canopy
The Bridgette person? Fucking OP as fuck
Broken game
Unbalanced
And I really
Really fucking hate that I bought it on PC
stiff tartan
Also OW 2 is just OW1 just better graphics and unnecesarily more complicated
fleet canopy
lol imagine caring about overwatch
stiff tartan
I dont
restive garnet
i dont understand the concept of OW2, and i dont think i want to
stiff tartan
I hate that game i wasted too much time in ow
fleet canopy
Afaik OW2 is just like
restive garnet
seemed like glorified DLC
vapid crypt
I thought it was just a PVE expansion?
stiff tartan
Its pvp and pve
fleet canopy
But it's just boring and fucking dull
restive garnet
they marketed it as a full new game
vapid crypt
Uh okay?
fleet canopy
Wowow!
fleet canopy
Could of have been an update
restive garnet
and skins
stiff tartan
really??
vapid crypt
That's not surprising
stiff tartan
which has crossplay with the old game
@restive garnet what the fuck
fleet canopy
Literally a fucking paid update
restive garnet
yeah
vapid crypt
its Activision
restive garnet
so like
vapid crypt
Well Activision Blizzard
restive garnet
what part of that doesnt sound like a glorified DLC?
vapid crypt
fleet canopy
Never thought activision would go that low
stiff tartan
Didnt you see Bo4
restive garnet
the only thing that made it stand out slightly was the PVE
stiff tartan
The gameplay is fine
vapid crypt
Do I need to remind you of that shit they pulled with making an entire game mode in Modern Warfare exclusive to Playstation for an entire year
fleet canopy
Just wasn't really that interested
restive garnet
i played BO4 for the first week, and then gave up
stiff tartan
but they said no crates but welp
vapid crypt
Which by then a new COD will be out anyway
restive garnet
only really played zombies anyway
stiff tartan
i played BO4 for the first week, and then gave up
@restive garnet same
fleet canopy
I mean
stiff tartan
got diamond on rifles and never played again
fleet canopy
We got Modern Warfare the new release
stiff tartan
Also on ps4
stiff tartan
that was hell
stiff tartan
Also Warzone is running like shit on my PC
fleet canopy
Completely new gameplay, still same old CoD
vapid crypt
Probably cause of that i3
fleet canopy
Don't run RTX with that shithole of a CPU/RAM
stiff tartan
Story and MP i get like stable 144+ fps WITH rtx
fleet canopy
Oh
stiff tartan
but warzone lowest setting maybe 60-80
fleet canopy
Wack
vapid crypt
Its 4 threads, that's just no good for the latest games anymore
restive garnet
lot of stuff going on in warzone tho
fleet canopy
I honestly can't play Warzone without using RTX
Like it is the most
Fucking ugly game without it
There are literally pixels every fucking where on my monitor without RTX
No matter what
The high jacked AA, sure
But with just AA, I can still kind of see it
It's just so fucking bullshit
vapid crypt
That's odd. reminds me of that shit they did with control where its all or nothing
fleet canopy
Piece of shit "Whoa! So realistic!"
Probably only just campaign to be fair
But still
Fucking dumb
stiff tartan
Its 4 threads, that's just no good for the latest games anymore
@vapid crypt yea thoguh about upgrading to 3600
vapid crypt
RTX: WOAH REFLECTIONS RTX off: everything is dull
fleet canopy
I don't really see the uhh
stiff tartan
anyone here played ghostrunner?
fleet canopy
That it's just unnecessary using it
Minecraft RTX, obviosuly
It's literally just a simple game
vapid crypt
I suppose Cyberpunk will actually look pretty good with it, I haven't really looked at it much though
fleet canopy
Not meant for high end PCs
stiff tartan
I mean it still runs like shit bc of java
fleet canopy
I honestly believe
earnest rose
java superior
fleet canopy
It's going to be the most noticeable in rain
stiff tartan
lmao
fleet canopy
Night, rain
vapid crypt
Well Minecraft RTX is not the Java version
fleet canopy
Boom
stiff tartan
definetly not
restive garnet
i swear, as soon as CP2077 comes out, im getting the highest end RTX card available, and noone is going to see me for at least 3 weeks
vapid crypt
Its for the Windows version
fleet canopy
Boo
vapid crypt
Well fortunately they delayed it to November
fleet canopy
I'm thinking 1080p 240Hz, so I might not need so much of that GPU power
But the price, 500$
Laughable
stiff tartan
i swear, as soon as CP2077 comes out, im getting the highest end RTX card available, and noone is going to see me for at least 3 weeks
@restive garnet Im getting cp2077 immediately after release
vapid crypt
So RTX 3090 here we go
stiff tartan
i never preorder because idk
vapid crypt
Get your pre-order in
earnest rose
oof
fleet canopy
Now that's manly as fuck
stiff tartan
I already spent enough money on league and steam sale
abstract kite
Lads, what's the hype with cyberpunk?
earnest rose
HMMMM
fleet canopy
Fucking epic
restive garnet
hard to explain
fleet canopy
The recent videos basically rehyped it
restive garnet
aside from the whole cyberpunk aesthetic in a first person shooter RPG
and the fact its being made by CDPR
stiff tartan
fleet canopy
It's pretty neat how it mixes in with a kind of 'police' investigation feel, while also still being an outlaw and filling everyone with bullets
stiff tartan
earnest rose
why
stiff tartan
Only on league
restive garnet
and the fact that the guy who came up with the whole cyberpunk universe has literally made a 9-5 career for the last 30 years making lore for it
abstract kite
First off Gay, I'm a weeb Hunter first and foremost.
Secondly, I fucking love cyberpunk games. Still hasn't caught my eye just yet.
earnest rose
tf
stiff tartan
Also probably spent even more on csgo
earnest rose
it will young padawan
stiff tartan
but thats another story i wont dive intp
vapid crypt
Yeah that uh surprised me I didn't expect an Anime
earnest rose
^
abstract kite
^^^
stiff tartan
I mean i profited for a time
restive garnet
if you want to get some hype, go watch the 40 odd minutes of gameplay from about 2 years ago
fleet canopy
Just don't spend money into that gambling bullcrap
stiff tartan
Gambling is my ecstasy
fleet canopy
Shit
vapid crypt
I've been hearing people say its improved a lot since then
So I guess that's where you're going with that
restive garnet
fleet canopy
The new trade 10 gun skins for epic skin? Fucking shit
vapid crypt
That makes a ton of sense considering its been 2 years
stiff tartan
@fleet canopy I know cs is shits
stiff tartan
fleet canopy
Was actually out for like 3 weeks, then made public today
stiff tartan
thats why i vac banned myself on purpose
fleet canopy
On 6/29
Basically everyone who paid for something or whatever it was, they had a link or some code to scan
And it led them to an unlisted, unreleased to public music song
Pretty neat though
stiff tartan
yea
stiff tartan
and 860$ in league only
fleet canopy
PC
stiff tartan
I mean i dont care abt a better pc right now
Its enough for me
I reach my 144hz cap on most stuff
vapid crypt
Eh really just a better CPU if anything.
stiff tartan
like i said
fleet canopy
Oh ho ho
stiff tartan
wanna upgrade to 3600 soon
fleet canopy
"I don't care about a better PC"
Yet you came here
And said
"I should get a CPU"
Fucking liar :)
stiff tartan
Yea i said i know that i should
fleet canopy
Exactly
restive garnet
probably would have been a better idea to grab a B250 mobo instead of a z370, and spend the money you saved on a higher end non K series CPU
stiff tartan
The money really want a big problem it was more of a problem that my mom though i was gonna hack NASA or the FBI with my pc
and i was underage atm
fleet canopy
pfft
stiff tartan
Also all of the money was from me
stiff tartan
not 1 penny was from my parents
fleet canopy
Whopps! I hacked NASA with my phone!
stiff tartan
nah my moms phone costs almost as much as my pc
stiff tartan
1200 vs 1100
fleet canopy
11?
stiff tartan
Idrk i think 11 max
or some shit
i dont keep up with apple
dont like the company
fleet canopy
The newer phones are honestly pretty meh
vapid crypt
Not an Apple Fan
fleet canopy
Their older ones, they're cool
stiff tartan
Samsungs or overall androids have gotten much better
fleet canopy
I use my iphone 6, although I face a need for an upgrade
stiff tartan
also my phone is fucking shit
fleet canopy
All I need is to use it to play minesweeper, Tetris, discord, bum
stiff tartan
S8+ and it registers ghost touches and is dead at the top side
fleet canopy
But it crashes when I play fucking minesweeper
stiff tartan
like 30% of the top side is dead
vapid crypt
Today's low end was yesterday's high end
stiff tartan
My old laptop used to do that
fleet canopy
lel
fleet canopy
Space Cadet 1998
fleet canopy
vapid crypt
That was the shit when it came with every XP install
fleet canopy
I have it on my PC
stiff tartan
Epic
stiff tartan
vapid crypt
You can filter out uninstalled games
stiff tartan
fleet canopy
Mostly free games, during the high times of "I have a very shitty office PC"
stiff tartan
You can filter out uninstalled games
@vapid crypt Didnt find the option
fleet canopy
It's the uh
stiff tartan
I have a steam skin
fleet canopy
Oh?
stiff tartan
its alb different
stiff tartan
nah its the same there
fleet canopy
Mm
fleet canopy
Ughhgh
stiff tartan
^^
fleet canopy
Mm
stiff tartan
Yea but it doesnt count playtime in background
fleet canopy
I got like
stiff tartan
otherwise id have like 2000
fleet canopy
Oh
stiff tartan
27hrs
fleet canopy
At the most, I got 600-800 hours of Payday 2
stiff tartan
14th most played game
fleet canopy
All fromthe glorious 2013-2015 days to now
stiff tartan
At the most, I got 600-800 hours of Payday 2
@fleet canopy Bruh i have 24hrs and someone hacked so i got like
fleet canopy
Well until around 2019
fleet canopy
Yeah
fleet canopy
It took as long as it took depending on how fast you ran your missions, how much you got, difficulty
Oh my fucking god
stiff tartan
sometimes even a few days apart
fleet canopy
There's a fat ass spider
stiff tartan
SPiders
stiff tartan
SP
stiff tartan
just mocking your shift skills
fleet canopy
lel
fleet canopy
I just do it without realizing anymore
fleet canopy
One time a fly flew right at me
Like
"I'm now a japanese kamikaze motherfucker"
And I shrieked at 2AM
fleet canopy
Oof
stiff tartan
"I'm now a japanese kamikaze motherfucker"
@fleet canopy l m a o
i hate it when like
fleet canopy
Mm
stiff tartan
you jsut hear bzzzzt
stiff tartan
and wake up
fleet canopy
Probably
stiff tartan
Never had that?
fleet canopy
Well
If it's a dream
I had this one dream where there was this uhh
Mosquito, kind of a little big
It was in the room I was in
And it flies right into me
Like
Literally just fucking starts devouring me
I fucking
stiff tartan
what the fuck
fleet canopy
Well that's overexaggerating it, I more likely just like
fleet canopy
Screamed so much, and just rubbed my chest
stiff tartan
I swear i either get "horror" dreams (not really nightmares) or fucking hilarious dreams
fleet canopy
I had a dream where there was this two guy and this big ass machine that grinds up trees
Scared little 10 year old me
They attempted to throw me into the fucking tree grinder
stiff tartan
we have like this small girl in our friend group and shes really introverted and i dreamed 2 times about her that i fopund her on pornhub and that she was pregnant
we laughed so fucking hard
stiff tartan
we ate edibles before
fleet canopy
Hahah
earnest rose
tf
stiff tartan
They attempted to throw me into the fucking tree grinder
@fleet canopy how
my dad does that as a job
helped him
almost lost a finger
fleet canopy
I was a kid, there was two big guy that looked straight outta WWE
stiff tartan
cuz my hand got stuck in the branches
My dads massive too
prolly like 120kg
270 pounds
ish
fleet canopy
Massive men for massive tree obliterating
fleet canopy
Once I had a dream, I was in a jungle with my family
They've all passed the rope bridge, I was the last
So I'm halfway across, epic movie scene starts happening
Wooden boards below me breaks and fall off, and I held onto the rope
It didn't last long, I lost my grip and fell all the way down until I hit the water and woke up
stiff tartan
Tomb raider
fleet canopy
lmao
stiff tartan
eh dreams are weird
fleet canopy
Yeah
stiff tartan
Since ive taken acid a few times i get much more lucid dreams
wack
or atleast it feels like it
maybe its me aging or shit
chat dead chat dead
either way ima head to sleep
it was nice talking to ya
fleet canopy
stiff tartan
brisk badger
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23679286
India bans Tiktok and other chinese apps. It's really worrying what these app do in the background
clear quartz
same what facebook and google ones do
sick reef
Kind of? It's the difference between doing it for yourself, or doing it for everyone else.
brisk badger
it's not the same with cooperation in china. This quote sums up nicely:
Nation states have military, intelligence, diplomacy and police corps. They reserve the power to stop, detain, arrest, jail, try, sentence, imprison, and kill. That’s why how we go about those things is a Big Deal, and why we have so many rules about who can go about it, how, under what circumstances, what the laws are that they’re enforcing, what the processes and procedures are for enforcement and how guilt is determined.
Corporations as a rule, and there have been exceptions, but as a rule have none of those powers. Theoretically the worst crimes they’re going to commit are fraudulent in nature and crimes of negligence. They’re not just a separate org chart ultimately serving as a private arm of the State with its own private rules that it self-enforces; they’re different beasts entirely.
The problem with PRC-based corporations is that they muddy the waters entirely between what is private and public. As far as the PRC is concerned, all private life is subject to the State and should serve the interests of the State. Google and Facebook and your favorite café or tea house can and do have interests that lie entirely outside of the State and are free to pursue them. That is the difference between a free society and an authoritarian State. ```China is actively trying to make their leader into a religion, again, so I'm unsure how all this will pan out.
When people start to argue that yes, it is fine to be jailed, killed or persecuted for your religion or lack of one, because they "knew" it was against "the law", then I'm unsure how I feel about things.
I thought that basic human rights such as freedom of religion was fundamental, but ironically, fundamentalism proves that wrong.
brisk badger
it's really sad and concerning what is going on in China and yet we are so depended on them
China is also working on 7nm CPU's x) . They still will be crap but they will come one day and change the landscape
sick reef
Yeah.
brisk badger
report of someone who reverse engineered TikTok app (what the app is sending in the background):
Phone hardware (cpu type, number of course, hardware ids, screen dimensions, dpi, memory usage, disk space, etc)
Other apps you have installed (I've even seen some I've deleted show up in their analytics payload - maybe using as cached value?)
Everything network-related (ip, local ip, router mac, your mac, wifi access point name)
Whether or not you're rooted/jailbroken
Some variants of the app had GPS pinging enabled at the time, roughly once every 30 seconds - this is enabled by default if you ever location-tag a post IIRC
They set up a local proxy server on your device for "transcoding media", but that can be abused very easily as it has zero authentication
Local proxy. So remote break-in and control?
All of this stuff is bonkers, really.
It doesn't need this.
brisk badger
no idea. Maybe to bypass firewalls or network rules in the environment the client is in
it's concerning. Very concerning because the app is..... heavily used by the youth
sick reef
Well, yeah. Information overflow strategy.
Just make everything obtuse and difficult, and people will press straight through it without thinking.
And people are growing up into not caring what they do or what information they share online.
It's as if "freedom of expression" means that it's fine that they get to take all the information about me, because it "would never impact me in the end".
It's not like oppressive governments have used their power to subjugate people in other countries, to hunt them down.
People will literally scoff most things, until it knocks on their door, and the people around them just scoff the idea that their door is next.
They are even actively are encouraged to give out their personal information. I dunno. It's not the perception it used to have, where the fundamentals of "defend your identity" and "be wary of strangers" still applied.
It used to be that "even if you're anonymous, it's still information about you." twisted into "even if you're not anonymous, information held against you is an attack."
You can't both have the cake, and eat it, you know.
The reason we had online personas completely divided from our real one wasn't because we were scared chums that didn't dare to put ourselves out there. It was because you don't trust strangers, you defend your identity to the bone, and you especially don't give out personal information on public forums.
brisk badger
I wish more people realize this. (online) privacy is so damn important and will be even more in the future. Something schools never taught me
sick reef
It's something you learn either second-hand, or in traumatic first-hand experiences. Everything you put out can be linked to you, and referenced later, regardless of where, how, and when.
brisk badger
i hope the next generation or the youth now realize it early on. The "cloud" is so dangerous, yet so easy to use. Dont fall for it 😋
but on the other hand i totally understand if people are not willing to setup their own cloud, or infrastructure
it just require too much knowledge
sick reef
I hope so, but since it's such a great benefit to government, companies, and general populous to have a malleable crowd, I don't think it will.
It's easier to have people just give everything up, and say "what ever, you agreed to this" than it is to say that you should practice caution, and thoughtfulness online, otherwise you will be taken advantage of.
brisk badger
Cashback deals are one of those which you totally give up your privacy for some dollars 😕
online security, i hope my kids have to go such a class
sick reef
Petitions. Enforcing having to create accounts to a site which requires an identity.
There's so many small ways it tries to get you.
brisk badger
Some crazy american politicians: https://cyberlaw.stanford.edu/blog/2020/06/there’s-now-even-worse-anti-encryption-bill-earn-it-doesn’t-make-earn-it-bill-ok
an anti encrpytion bill 😂
sick reef
So, literally China?
"You will give us a backdoor, or you can't sell nor produce your product or service"
brisk badger
a more subtible form of the great firewall :p
sick reef
Well, this isn't even talking of the great firewall, this is talking of how chinese hardware and software has to have backdoors to enable the chinese government access or authority over users.
At least US Government has the courtesy to take the 5 minutes to get into your stuff.
brisk badger
hmm I am not sure how the technical part is done:
The bill’s wording is unambiguous: providers, across the spectrum of devices and information services, must design in the ability to decrypt data and provide it in intelligible form
I assume tho that there will, if this bill really passes (i doubt), they setup TLS Bump Proxies that will be able to decrypt the traffic. Probably the ISP's has to isntall those
if you visit google.com normally you get the certificate from google.com
If there would be a bump proxy in place, it would intercept this certificate and replace it with it's own signed certificate that it will give to you. By doing this, the traffic is still encrypted but the proxy can fully decrypt it
sick reef
Feels like you'd have to start creating your own encryption protocol just to have cloud storage if it remotely accessed.
brisk badger
any modern browser detects the shenanigans of a bump proxy and will tell you that you are being compromised, so the ISPs have to give you the manually signed certificate from the proxy somehow
maybe they send an .exe and tell you to execute it, because... whatever reason
the encryption protocol used (AES) for most encryption is super strong and not possible to decrypt today by bruteforce
but the most secure protocol is useless if you are intercepting the traffic and somehow manipulate the certificates the encryption uses. Browser do know whats going tho, so you always will be informed when that happens
Bigger businesses use Bump Proxy to know what website content their employees visit
Bump proxies are also great to detect smart viruses who will communicate through secure connections to bypass firewalls. Well they won't detect it, but the operator of the network or the firewall can use this to analyze the traffic
glad epoch
Hi, so Im not really a tech guy and I need some help with my GTFO
So i was wondering how i could increase my FPS while maintaining my video settings to 1920x1080, High shadow resolution,Medium fog diffusion quality, full texture size,Depth of field and anisotropic filtering
i'm my specs is 120Hz refresh,gtx 1050TI , single 12GB RAM,1TB+128SSD
My gtfo before runs smoothly, but then I realized its set to 1368x768 by default, so i tried to up it to 1920x1080 so i could appreciate gtfo's graphics much more.Then the fps started to get lower, from 70-80FPS to 35-50FPS
I dont know if i have to adjust the cpu cullling workload,max render queue frames (note i have no idea what these things are)
i'll be playing gtfo for now,ill look back at this channel in a while, thanks in advance!
torn ferry
@brisk badger were you discussing about the Earn It Act?
brisk badger
No something even worse 😕
Atm I am not super familiar with Earn It, have to read it up later
torn ferry
Earn It Act is also an anti-encryption law.
torn ferry
Even during a global pandemic, the government wants your data.
What are the chances of the bills being passed by both House Of Representatives and Senate?
late sorrel
pretty high probably
after all, they don’t know how the internet works
see the facebook hearings
torn ferry
When will it be time to vote?
torn ferry
What do hearings do? Do they just decide if they want to edit it or not?
late sorrel
sorry, a committe meeting
basically, they add more informnation to the overall bill
effectively, it’s an edit before it gets voted on
torn ferry
Is this going to be an unanimous vote?
late sorrel
I have no idea, it’s just in the committees right now.
you can probably ask your senator’s office, and there are resources for seeing who will vote on what
it hasn’t passed anything right now
torn ferry
Will there be white versions of the 3000 series cards?
late sorrel
i hope so
torn ferry
What brand would you want a white painted card from the most?
torn ferry
How good are Zotac cards?
late sorrel
i think the zotac 2080Ti was one of the best clocked ones?
i could be wrong, been a while
vapid crypt
Not sure, haven't heard anything negative outside of typical outliers cause online reviewers are salty
late sorrel
I’ve always been a Sapphire shill
vapid crypt
And I mean of course retail reviewers
"oh its doa, heres a 1 star cause I'm pissed."
torn ferry
What should reviewers give for a defective board?
jade ermine
There aint much of "bad" cards keep that in mind
vapid crypt
Well they shouldn't review at all because it doesn't reflect the actual product
torn ferry
I mean, I wouldn't want to go with PNY graphics card on a $2000 budget like The Verge did.
jade ermine
Nothing wrong with PNY
torn ferry
What manufacturer has the worst quality when it comes to cards though?
vapid crypt
Honestly it depends on the card
jade ermine
this
vapid crypt
Asus has put out awful cards in the entry level
jade ermine
5700XT TUF card is good example
vapid crypt
Well yeah that too, hahaha
torn ferry
What even is the TUF brand?
vapid crypt
I mean AMD in general don't bother with Asus
jade ermine
Gigabyte Aorus Extreme is a joke too. And its expensive aswell.
vapid crypt
Their motherboards might be fine, but the cards avoid like the plague
torn ferry
Is TUF basically if you want Asus but don't want to be an Arr Oh Gee enthusiast?
vapid crypt
Its their budget gaming brand basically
jade ermine
Step down from their ROG stuff
vapid crypt
They really do a good job of shafting the products too, probably just to make ROG look better
Like the TUF laptops are built in a way where airflow is crap and it will underperform
torn ferry
What brand has the best gaming laptops?
brisk badger
Shawn Matthias HowlseyToday at 5:44 PM
Even during a global pandemic, the government wants your data.
This is the perfect time politicians sneak in some law
🎩TintedMirrorsToday at 5:43 PM
oh no
time to figure out how to encrypt stuff
The problem is that encrypted stuff is going to be decrypted by the government, so it's basically useless 😕
late sorrel
oh
vapid crypt
Just give them the one finger salute for good measure, let them know how you feel about em
torn ferry
@brisk badger how much support does it have in the House and Senate?
vapid crypt
Its all you can do
fleet canopy
Hm
brisk badger
@torn ferry I have no idea, I am not an US citizen. I do think tho that politician, especially older ones do like this idea
fleet canopy
It all depends just how much they really care about data
brisk badger
Personally I doubt that the proposal I posted will be enacted. No idea about the EARN IT tho
fleet canopy
In experience, ehh
It’ll happen most likely
Maybe there are some news I could look up, but I’m not really one to care about it. Politics are pretty meh haha
restive garnet
government over here are using corona virus as an excuse to push through some stupid shit
earnest rose
ye
restive garnet
started off with them pushing through a bill that allows them to ignore a lot of the process around any further bills
followed up with allowing police officers to enter any home or business and demand that anyone follow all given commands without a warrant
that last one was before the whole george floyd thing, probably would have gone down a lot differently if it was afterwards
they are currently using it to push through new firearms regulations, which the last round of reforms were dodgy enough without them ignoring due process
actually, i take it back, they ignored due process on the last round as well
vapid crypt
Sounds about right 
restive garnet
they claimed to have read 10,000 submissions from the public, to the parliament, over the course of 2 days
🤔
torn ferry
Do public responses or letters to congress or senators/representatives even do anything?
restive garnet
cant comment on the states, but id wager the answer is the same
its supposed to, but practically they just do whatever they want
torn ferry
Does it have any effect on how they will vote or have their minds already been made up before even reading the letters?
restive garnet
quite probably the latter
though i would assume in rare circumstances they do get swayed
either from overwhelming numbers of submissions, or because some have really stood out
torn ferry
Has Europe passed laws similar to the Earn It Act?
restive garnet
cant say im terribly familiar with european politics or the earn it act
torn ferry
Earn It Act is basically requiring internet messaging companies to add a backdoor basically to their encryption.
restive garnet
im trying to find an objective article online about what it is
torn ferry
It also aims to make companies liable for what users do or say on their platforms.
restive garnet
but its just constant bitching and moaning about it
well, from what im reading its basically that a federally established committee comes up with a set of rules that companies have to abide by
even if that gets in to some pretty hazy grey areas
torn ferry
It's basically that but the committee will probably always rule against users and companies.
restive garnet
i feel like it would basically end up being like zuckerbergs congressional hearing
where a bunch of people with no fucking clue how anything works attempt to make out that they do
brisk badger
the zucc memes were so great