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abstract kite Jun 25, 2020, 12:35 AM

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Even if it's 280hz, ghosting is atrocious and I don't wish it on anyone

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 12:35 AM

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It was just one monitor however though

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Ghosting is a bitch, yeah

abstract kite Jun 25, 2020, 12:35 AM

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You're better off going with something like the Alienware AW2518H if you want a super high refresh rate.

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 12:35 AM

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I'll have to look at a whole review of the monitor just to be really sure it actually is wroth it tbh

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Oh no alienware

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How could you /s

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500$

abstract kite Jun 25, 2020, 12:36 AM

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A lot of people give Alienware shit, but honestly their monitors are top notch

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Clean design and decent colors

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 12:36 AM

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Yeah I'm only going to give shit on everything else alienware

abstract kite Jun 25, 2020, 12:36 AM

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Alienware prebuilts though

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OMEGALUL

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 12:36 AM

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lol

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They're fucking ugly

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And horrid

abstract kite Jun 25, 2020, 12:37 AM

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I kind of like the curviness of one of them, but the inability to truly upgrade is a bummer.

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 12:38 AM

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Is it 1080 or 1440?

abstract kite Jun 25, 2020, 12:38 AM

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The Alienware one?

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or the ASUS

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 12:38 AM

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Alienware

abstract kite Jun 25, 2020, 12:39 AM

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Its 1080p

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 12:39 AM

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Ok

abstract kite Jun 25, 2020, 12:39 AM

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But half a grand if you can afford that. MHHH

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 12:39 AM

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I'm not seeing the exact model number on their site

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At least it ain't ugly as shit like BenQ

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So there was a time when it did go below 350$

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neato

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A gsync and a freesync version, hm

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Freesync I guess. AMD's getting their next GPU with ray tracing

abstract kite Jun 25, 2020, 12:43 AM

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I don't know if it is on the list, but now that freesync monitors are becoming g-sync compatible, you're could potentially save money on that one and still enjoy Gsync

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 12:43 AM

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Nah

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Both are same price

abstract kite Jun 25, 2020, 12:43 AM

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Interesting

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 12:43 AM

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Just like

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30$

abstract kite Jun 25, 2020, 12:43 AM

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Honestly I'd just go with the Gsync one then personally.

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 12:44 AM

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Who knows, might get an AMD at some point PirateSimon

abstract kite Jun 25, 2020, 12:44 AM

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Same honestly.

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 12:44 AM

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Ironic it's TN

abstract kite Jun 25, 2020, 12:45 AM

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If NVIDIA price hikes, fuck that

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 12:45 AM

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While the IPS I have on this list is 300$

abstract kite Jun 25, 2020, 12:45 AM

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It would be the refresh rate

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and (ofc) the Alienware name

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 12:45 AM

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240Hz at 500$ versus a 280Hz IPS at 300$

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c:

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It's ASUS 280Hz one ofc

abstract kite Jun 25, 2020, 12:46 AM

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240Hz at 500$ versus a 280Hz IPS at 300$ [+ hella ghosting]
@fleet canopy

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 12:46 AM

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Ah yes, then I guess 500$ it will be

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I'll cry in less colors, but someday 240Hz VA will be just as good as TN is now

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Actually no

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It'll not do ghosting shit on me

abstract kite Jun 25, 2020, 12:49 AM

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TN is basically the lowest latency panel type

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even though it has the worst color space

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 12:49 AM

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Yeah

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VA is in between with TN and IPs

abstract kite Jun 25, 2020, 12:49 AM

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I like IPS but 144hz is the maximum we can really go right now to get those rich colors without ghosting... minus the blacks being a bit gray.

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 12:49 AM

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and IPS epic colors, but shitty in terms of higher refresh gaming

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OLED is coming

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That'll be some epic shit

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Wonder how that'll be in high refresh

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Cause afaik it's only on 60Hz TVs

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Which are mainly in 4K

abstract kite Jun 25, 2020, 12:50 AM

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OLED will be really neat but expensive for the first few years.

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 12:50 AM

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Indeed

abstract kite Jun 25, 2020, 3:30 AM

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280hz? Is that actually worth anything over 144?

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or really 240 even

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 3:31 AM

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Well if you can even notice the difference, sure

abstract kite Jun 25, 2020, 3:31 AM

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that's what I mean though, can you actually notice any difference?

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 3:31 AM

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Who knows

abstract kite Jun 25, 2020, 3:31 AM

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Plasma (600hz?) always seemed just as fluid as 144hz to me

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 3:31 AM

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I never saw a single frame above 60Hz

abstract kite Jun 25, 2020, 3:31 AM

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I definitely see a difference between 144 and 60, but nothing past that

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 3:32 AM

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I don't think plasma does 600Hz

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Nor did I know plasma monitors were a thing

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Damn big though, I'll give it that

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Well big in prices, non-existent in wallet

abstract kite Jun 25, 2020, 3:33 AM

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I mean, I haven't worried about it since like, 2012

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but back then I remember something about plasma being rediculously fast refreshing but with huge burn in as the tradeoff

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 3:33 AM

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Eh

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It becomes obsolete at some point

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At the most, 240Hz is all we really need

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Unless you still can see more than that, then I guess that's kind of the point

abstract kite Jun 25, 2020, 3:35 AM

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I'm gonna try to shoot for a new build that can run 4k 144hz next gpu generation

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or 120hz I guess

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whichever

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 3:37 AM

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I guess that exists

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Perhaps a 3080 is all you'll need

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Unless it needs a 3080 Ti or 3090

abstract kite Jun 25, 2020, 3:39 AM

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I wonder what they'll call the 3000 series titan

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 3:39 AM

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RTX Titan

abstract kite Jun 25, 2020, 3:39 AM

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So just reuse the same name?

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 3:39 AM

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Probably?

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Have there been any other naming schemes?

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We might have a Titan

abstract kite Jun 25, 2020, 3:40 AM

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I mean they haven't reused a name yet

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Titan, Titan z, x, xp, v, rtx

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 3:40 AM

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But there were also mentioned that a 3090 was the next Titan

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 3:41 AM

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Actually you missed one, Titan x Pascal

abstract kite Jun 25, 2020, 3:41 AM

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Wasn't that the XP?

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X Pascal

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or was XP a different thing again

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 3:41 AM

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The XP was the replacement

abstract kite Jun 25, 2020, 3:41 AM

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oh

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so, X X Pascal, and XP

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nice

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 3:41 AM

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Basically came after the 1080 ti

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 3:42 AM

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Honestly

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There's no point in continuing the Titan brand

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No one really ever gets it anyway

abstract kite Jun 25, 2020, 3:43 AM

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HomerHide

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 3:43 AM

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They'll just call it the 3090, 4090, 5090, whatever

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It's basically the Titan rebranded

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If you've seen posts of leaks here, the 3090 literally has like

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Enough VRAM to be like an RTX 3080 Ti but with more VRAM

abstract kite Jun 25, 2020, 3:44 AM

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I got a titan X (2014 whatever Pascal/P version it was)

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because of how much more VRAM it had

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and 4k was just blossoming

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 3:44 AM

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12GB 👀

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~~I don't know~~

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 3:44 AM

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If it was 2014, that should be the Regular X right? The Maxwell card

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 3:44 AM

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~~I don't care about the Titans really~~

abstract kite Jun 25, 2020, 3:44 AM

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I think so, I honestly can't remember

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I know it's a titan X of some kind.

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If the future ones came out after 2014 its def the X

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 3:45 AM

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Its basically a 980ti with double the memory buffer

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 3:45 AM

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lel

abstract kite Jun 25, 2020, 3:45 AM

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Yeah, I figured it would be worth it since I was running 3 4k monitors

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and then VR came out and I had to cut my fourth monitor

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for bandwidth

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but then WIRELESS vr came out

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and I got it back

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lol

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 3:45 AM

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The NVIDIA Titan V, the most powerful Volta-based GPU ever created for the PC

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At least it was back then

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lul

abstract kite Jun 25, 2020, 3:46 AM

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Idk if I'll go for another titan

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since the normal cards have plenty of power and vram now

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 3:46 AM

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The Titan is the 3090

abstract kite Jun 25, 2020, 3:46 AM

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Probably

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but whatever its called

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 3:46 AM

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Honestly, if you could clock the Titan V as fast as a Turing card it would be the fastest still

abstract kite Jun 25, 2020, 3:46 AM

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i dont know if ill go for the "ultra-high end consumer enthusiast" card

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 3:46 AM

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I guess so

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The 3080 Ti is still going to be 11 fucking gigabytes

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 3:47 AM

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I thought the leaked image said 12

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 3:47 AM

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Some things improve, but other things never change

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12GB ain't even cutting it

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At the most, do 14GB

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 3:47 AM

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I guess but there's a reason they haven't gone to 12

abstract kite Jun 25, 2020, 3:47 AM

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The heck, how do the newest cards still have less vram than my 2014 one

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 3:47 AM

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That was a line they were trying not to cross

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 3:47 AM

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It's way past the time we should have 16GB VRAM cards available to buy with high performance

abstract kite Jun 25, 2020, 3:47 AM

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that's almost offensive to me

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 3:47 AM

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Exactly

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But I guess they figured out how to handle games without using so much VRAM without going past 11

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 3:48 AM

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Um well I mean its GDDR6 to be fair

abstract kite Jun 25, 2020, 3:48 AM

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Didn't nvidia have a titan with 32 gb?

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 3:48 AM

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uhh

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I believe most we got was 24GB

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 3:48 AM

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Its more expensive than GDDR5, and Nvidia will pinch pennies wherever they can

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 3:48 AM

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Quadros go for like

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48GB

abstract kite Jun 25, 2020, 3:48 AM

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https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/titan-v-ceo-edition.c3277 this donkey of a card

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titan v with 32gb upgrade

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 3:49 AM

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CEO edition, huh

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Recommended Gaming Resolutions:

640x480 1280x720 1366x768 1600x900 1920x1080 2560x1440 3840x2160

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Hah

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 3:49 AM

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Jensen runs this in his personal rig

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 3:49 AM

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The lowest fucking resolution

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Not an RTX Titan?

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I guess it's just a Quadro without support, huh

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 3:49 AM

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I bet he has a second one on display in a glass case wearing a little leather jacket

abstract kite Jun 25, 2020, 3:49 AM

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for some reason I was hung up on adam jensen there

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 3:50 AM

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Haha

abstract kite Jun 25, 2020, 3:50 AM

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really confused me

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 3:50 AM

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Adam Jensen, Jensen Huang

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Totally the same guy phaWesker

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 3:50 AM

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Adam Jensen, CEO of NoVideo

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 3:50 AM

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Now I want to shop Adam's shades onto Jensen Huang PirateSimon

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 3:52 AM

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Lisa Su is an American?

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Thought she was Asian American or something

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 3:52 AM

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I think she immigrated

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But yes

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 3:52 AM

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Well that makes her an Asian American

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Why google lie

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 3:52 AM

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If you want to put it that way?

late sorrel Jun 25, 2020, 4:01 AM

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I mean she’s still pretty gamer

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 4:02 AM

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Indeed

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 4:04 AM

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Gamer American PirateSimon

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 4:05 AM

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Heh

lilac geyser Jun 25, 2020, 5:46 AM

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i finally watched that cyberpunk 2077 gameplay demo on steam

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 5:46 AM

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kek

lilac geyser Jun 25, 2020, 5:46 AM

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it looks wild

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 5:46 AM

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It's an impressive looking game

lilac geyser Jun 25, 2020, 5:46 AM

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i usually dont play rpgs

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 5:46 AM

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And I really would love to see how it is fully

lilac geyser Jun 25, 2020, 5:47 AM

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but this one, i might have to

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 5:47 AM

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It's an RPG I really want to go for

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It doesn't seem too hard to get by with the RPG element

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At least most RPG I played has damn skill levels n shit

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But honestly seems like it really is worth it

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The delays it got, including recently is sucky

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But at least it should be good

lilac geyser Jun 25, 2020, 5:48 AM

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i get anxiety over knowing that i'm locking myself out of a path

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 5:49 AM

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Yeah, but you can always play it again

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And get a whole different path

lilac geyser Jun 25, 2020, 5:50 AM

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i get that part of the game is supposed to be fun, but its why i dont do RPGs

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 5:50 AM

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I can understand

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It's kind of nicer to get a singular direction

lilac geyser Jun 25, 2020, 5:51 AM

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i will wait for some reviews

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 5:52 AM

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Yeah, that's understandable

lilac geyser Jun 25, 2020, 5:52 AM

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they have 500 people working on it

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 5:52 AM

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A pretty big team

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The only meme is that the director looks more dead and empty inside each game

proper wren Jun 25, 2020, 6:02 AM

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Mmm

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I might have to replace my hyper212 black for a better cooler now, 1700x toasty boy

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 6:03 AM

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Hm

lilac geyser Jun 25, 2020, 6:14 AM

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what ever happened to the escapist video game review videos? do they still do them

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they had quite a following for a while, but seemed to drop off

fierce frost Jun 25, 2020, 8:00 AM

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yoyo morning, 3000G any good for like a cheap system?

restive garnet Jun 25, 2020, 8:01 AM

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if you are talking dirt cheap, without a doubt

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probably the best cpu at its price point

fierce frost Jun 25, 2020, 8:01 AM

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👌 obv theres gonna be a dedicated GPU in the system cause yeah but thanks for the info

restive garnet Jun 25, 2020, 8:02 AM

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just make sure you arent bottle necking tho

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no 2080ti pairing 😉

fierce frost Jun 25, 2020, 8:02 AM

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i dont think i will be, lemme go check

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no it seems pretty okay

restive garnet Jun 25, 2020, 8:03 AM

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what are you looking at for gpu?

fierce frost Jun 25, 2020, 8:03 AM

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aiming for a R9 290 just cause i can get it real cheap

restive garnet Jun 25, 2020, 8:03 AM

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i wouldnt even worry about it then

fierce frost Jun 25, 2020, 8:03 AM

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👌

restive garnet Jun 25, 2020, 8:04 AM

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just worried that you were gunna go all out on a 2080ti

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like, ive literally already had someone tell me that today

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so

fierce frost Jun 25, 2020, 8:04 AM

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thats worth more than my current pc, the card alone

restive garnet Jun 25, 2020, 8:04 AM

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almost the same, tbh

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ive got a high end rig, but those 2080tis are hella expensive here

fierce frost Jun 25, 2020, 8:05 AM

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i mean id say ive got a moderate rig

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can handle VR etc

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cheapest 2080Ti i can see rn is £1,000+

restive garnet Jun 25, 2020, 8:06 AM

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cheapest here is like 1800 NZD

fierce frost Jun 25, 2020, 8:06 AM

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huh, when you convert it its a little cheaper

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not much tho

restive garnet Jun 25, 2020, 8:07 AM

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jokes

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i just checked price again

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2149

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kill me

fierce frost Jun 25, 2020, 8:07 AM

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o h

restive garnet Jun 25, 2020, 8:07 AM

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i have seen them go as low as 1800

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but apparently thats not what we get atm

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my current card cost me 1400

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or thereabouts

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for a strix 1080ti

fierce frost Jun 25, 2020, 8:08 AM

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i got my current surprisingly cheap looking at the prices for it now

restive garnet Jun 25, 2020, 8:08 AM

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a strix 2080ti costs like 2500

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big yikes

fierce frost Jun 25, 2020, 8:09 AM

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1060-6GB right now is around £280

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up to almost £900

restive garnet Jun 25, 2020, 8:10 AM

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yikes

fierce frost Jun 25, 2020, 8:11 AM

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wait, for that new rig

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i got a spare 570

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i could just whack that in

merry bay Jun 25, 2020, 12:55 PM

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@lilac geyser one more great channel. Two Minute Papers
They go through many scientific papers and showcase some that have demos or serious potential. Not always interesting but every now and something tech boner worthy appears.
e. x. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIGQSgifs6s

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 1:40 PM

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Actually a 570 would pretty much be on par with a 290

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Well if you're referring to the RX 570 anyway

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If its a GTX 570 forget about it phaWesker

fierce frost Jun 25, 2020, 1:49 PM

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Its the RX yeah

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 3:31 PM

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@fierce frost My Rx 570 plays GTFO at about 70 to 80 Fps on all high details at 1080p so it wouldn't be that bad for a budget or whatever rig.

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Keep in mind I have a shitty cpu though

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No matter how much to hate it I do have to give it credit for being a good budget card....

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 3:40 PM

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Shitty CPU, what a bulldozer CPU or something?

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 3:40 PM

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It's like a seven year old server cpu

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 3:41 PM

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And I get like 80 - 90+ with a 580 so it must not be so bad phaWesker

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 3:41 PM

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I guess

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In task manager it just says W3530 Xeon or something like that.

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 3:44 PM

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That's actually Intel's first gen core architecture apparently

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Same as like the first gen i7s basically

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 3:45 PM

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"Intel Xeon Cpu W3530 at 2.8GHz

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"

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It's really bad....

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 3:46 PM

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I don't think its bad if you got it for a good price

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 3:46 PM

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It is... It runs at like 50 percent and stuff just watching youtube

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And it runs super hot

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All 4 cores get to 100 degrees celcious I think when I run freaking minecraft

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 3:47 PM

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What are you cooling it with?

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 3:47 PM

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Mines starting to have problems or something too

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Idk I think it's the stock cooler? ;-;

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 3:47 PM

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Cause 100 degrees would likely throttle it

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Yeah that would do it, I didn't even know those came with a stock cooler

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 3:48 PM

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No idea

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 3:48 PM

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Though at least the older Intel stock coolers were thicker and had a copper slug in the center

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Now they're thin and only use aluminum, though allegedly they're upgrading it for 10th gen

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 3:48 PM

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Ah

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I tried to open steam the other day, and I kid you not it took like 5 minutes to open

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 3:49 PM

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Would be worth getting a cheap tower cooler if it could fit in your case

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 3:49 PM

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And my dad ain't willing to replace anything ;-;

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 3:50 PM

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Legit I got a deep cool Gammaxx 400 for 20 bucks, probably the best performer in its class

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 3:50 PM

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I suppose I could ask my mum if I could bye the case i wanna get for the pc I'm gonna get...

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buy*

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All I need is 2 ppl with knowledge of my work effort or whatever in the last three years to put on my job application

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But I have about $256 ish Usd rn

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 3:53 PM

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You can get a decent case for around $50-$70 less if you're willing to go with something super low quality I guess, and a decent tower cooler for like $20 - $30, I got the gammaxx 400 on sale so phaSheva

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 3:53 PM

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The case I want to get that I could use until I get money to build a pc is 202 usd

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 3:53 PM

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Actually for a microATX case you could lower that by about $10

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 3:54 PM

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Yeah

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You can get like small aluminum box cases

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 3:54 PM

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Uh Yeah that's not really worth it at all

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 3:54 PM

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It's that O11D Xl or whatever y'all told me abouth a few days ago

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 3:55 PM

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Cause you can get a good case for less then $70, allocating the budget to a $200 case isn't wise unless you absolutely need that sort of space and quality

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 3:55 PM

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Yeah

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 3:56 PM

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Also Antec's P120 Crystal is the scuffed O11 for $100 but it only comes in black if that's a concern, and of course some people might not like the top mounted Power Supply.

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 3:56 PM

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I want a white case

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 3:56 PM

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It uses a similar design, it certainly has the same look; but its structured quite a bit different

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 3:57 PM

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Yeah

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 3:57 PM

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Hm

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 3:58 PM

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Might be getting that case with a new cooler soon phaSheva

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My birthday was yesterday PirateSimon

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 3:58 PM

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kek

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 3:59 PM

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The O11D XL is kinda wide too 😛

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If I could find a case similar I guess.

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Idk

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One of those small cases that the corsair vengences use would be pretty cool

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But I don't want a micro atx thing....

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 4:00 PM

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An ITX then >:)

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 4:00 PM

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I'd prefer to get and ATX lol

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 4:01 PM

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Micro ATX is underrated

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 4:02 PM

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Micro ATX is cool

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 4:02 PM

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It gives you all the functionality of general user computing, such as gaming while being a bit cheaper at the same time

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Its a shame it doesn't get support cause it isn't that popular

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 4:02 PM

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I could look into Micro ATX honestly

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 4:02 PM

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You don't see enough good boards

brisk badger Jun 25, 2020, 4:02 PM

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Happy late bday🥳💌🍰

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 4:02 PM

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Well With a lot of micro atx cases you can't fit the huge graphics cards....

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 4:02 PM

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Mm

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 4:02 PM

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Eh but like how huge?

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 4:03 PM

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I'm pretty sure I've seen a 2080 Ti in an SFF

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 4:03 PM

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You can't fit a lot of 2080 ti s

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 4:03 PM

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Cause there are MicroATX cases that easily support over 300mm in length

brisk badger Jun 25, 2020, 4:03 PM

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Bend it

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 4:03 PM

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And I'm assuming the 3080s might be bigger

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 4:03 PM

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Haha

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But the graphics will be bent then!

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Aftermarket 3080 then

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 4:04 PM

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Well I want to get an asus 3080/90

brisk badger Jun 25, 2020, 4:04 PM

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Some already have bent monitors😋

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 4:04 PM

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I got a Thermaltake Versa H15 initially for the microatx build

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 4:04 PM

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Fuck NVIDIA's whole design, except their GPU design this time might be alright, but it's always been the aftermarkets that's very good compared to the reference

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 4:04 PM

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And the asus ones are generaly slightly over 300mm

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 4:04 PM

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That thing fits up to 315mm GPUs

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Just using that as an example

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I imagine lots of cases will still fit those dimensions

brisk badger Jun 25, 2020, 4:05 PM

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I bought a strix GPU and it was a total fail. They have MASSIVE vrms

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But unless u not OC like a madman its counterproductive

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 4:05 PM

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Total fail?

brisk badger Jun 25, 2020, 4:05 PM

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For my use case yes

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 4:05 PM

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I know the Strix 5700s were total failures, they can't even get mounting pressure right PirateSimon

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 4:06 PM

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If it ain't for G a m i n g it ain't worth it /s

brisk badger Jun 25, 2020, 4:06 PM

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I have the 5700xt strix =(

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 4:06 PM

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If I could find a 280x like case that would fit an asus 3090 or whatever I'd be down getting micro atx...

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 4:06 PM

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Yeah they screwed the mounting pressure on it

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 4:06 PM

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At least the drivers are epic now on 5700XT

brisk badger Jun 25, 2020, 4:06 PM

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But no issue with mounting pressure AFAIK

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 4:06 PM

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Memory runs hot

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 4:06 PM

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Kinda I guess?

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 4:06 PM

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I'm sure they went and fixed it

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 4:06 PM

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Maybe he got a good batch yeah

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 4:06 PM

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But they did blame AMD in the process

brisk badger Jun 25, 2020, 4:06 PM

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The issue is with tje strix card

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 4:06 PM

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lol

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blaming AMD

brisk badger Jun 25, 2020, 4:07 PM

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Due to the massive vrms it will consume exta 20-30watt for nothing

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 4:07 PM

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Lazy standards, they didn't bother ensuring they had the right mounting pressure for their custom cooler

brisk badger Jun 25, 2020, 4:07 PM

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Its a beast to OC tho

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But for normal uses its a waste of money

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 4:08 PM

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2150mhz on the core PirateSimon

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 4:08 PM

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When 3GHz?

brisk badger Jun 25, 2020, 4:08 PM

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I will check the mounting pressure. My vram is about 75 degrees under full load

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Which i think is still ok

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 4:09 PM

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Then its probably fine, I believe it was an issue on release

#

Now the biggest issue was their TUF models

brisk badger Jun 25, 2020, 4:09 PM

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For some reason their vbios is odd and the fan spin very slow

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 4:09 PM

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They had like no adequate cooling for the memory, forget about mounting pressure

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 4:09 PM

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Sounds sucky

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 4:09 PM

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Are there shelves strong enough to hold a Pc?

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 4:10 PM

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Want to run that memory at 100C no problem 🤪

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 4:10 PM

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Yeah

brisk badger Jun 25, 2020, 4:10 PM

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So you get 75 to 80 degrees on core if you dont have manual fan setup

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 4:11 PM

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Wack

brisk badger Jun 25, 2020, 4:11 PM

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3ghz is nice if the milestone is reached

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 4:11 PM

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Did you try to see what it was like speeding up the fans?

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 4:11 PM

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That doesn't sound very good considering the thickness of the cooler

brisk badger Jun 25, 2020, 4:11 PM

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I have a manual curve and around 60 degrees on core. Its louder ofc

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Well the strix has two vbios

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 4:12 PM

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Dumb dumb Strix

brisk badger Jun 25, 2020, 4:12 PM

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Silent and performance

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 4:12 PM

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Kek

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 4:12 PM

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So performance lets it boost as high as thermally possible

brisk badger Jun 25, 2020, 4:12 PM

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Performance is a watt hungry monster

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 4:12 PM

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If I get the O11D XL than it might be a good idea to get a shelf that can hold it...

brisk badger Jun 25, 2020, 4:12 PM

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Silent is perfect but fans are hilariously low

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 4:13 PM

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You can put it on desk

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Or maybe a nice kinda stool thing that still keeps it off the ground

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 4:13 PM

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I won't have as much desk space then and my window cell thing isn't wide enough

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I might have a small table thing that could hold it...

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Idk if it's sturdy enough though

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I don't think it is

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 4:14 PM

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Thermaltake has that open wall mountable case don't they?

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 4:15 PM

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?

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 4:15 PM

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I believe Thermaltake makes a case which you can mount to a wall

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 4:15 PM

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Interesting

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 4:16 PM

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Core P5

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 4:17 PM

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Only comes in black looks like

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 4:17 PM

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Oh there's a P3

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That comes in white

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 4:17 PM

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And I don't like how there isn't glass on the front bottom and top

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😦

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 4:17 PM

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Yeah its basically an open bench

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 4:17 PM

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ew glass on top

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 4:18 PM

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Best for airflow phaWesker

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 4:18 PM

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ew glass on bottom

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 4:18 PM

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I guess but I don't like how open it is

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 4:18 PM

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Who in the world is gonna look through the bottom/top

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 4:18 PM

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Idfk

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 4:18 PM

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It isn't a box, its a table phaSip

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 4:18 PM

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Exactly

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 4:19 PM

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Though that reminds me of the desk where you can install 2 computers into it

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 4:20 PM

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I search wall mounted pc case and the corsair crystal 570x comes up

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 4:20 PM

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I don't think you can do that with it

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 4:20 PM

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Lol

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Yeah

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Interesting...

📎 unknown.png

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 4:20 PM

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Shit its $1500 just to get one of those computer case desks

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 4:21 PM

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Boo!

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It's like 200-400$ to get Gamers Nexus modmat

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What you gonna do about it?

merry bay Jun 25, 2020, 4:21 PM

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thank goodness that custom wallmount included an optical drive

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 4:21 PM

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Lmao

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 4:22 PM

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📎 1Nd2JAa.png

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 4:22 PM

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Imagine the people having this trying to put in that disc without it falling

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Now that's superior

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 4:26 PM

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I need figure out where I can get a really strong and wide wall shelf thing then

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Or a small table to put it on

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 4:28 PM

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Any wide shelf you bolt to the wall should do well I imagine

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 4:29 PM

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Idk where to buy one

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 4:29 PM

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A Hardware/Home store

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Shit probably any place that sells furniture too

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 4:30 PM

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I'd rather get one online

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 4:30 PM

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Boring

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 4:30 PM

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Then okay that would be easy enough to find online

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 4:30 PM

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Much faster going to Home Depots

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But yeah

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 4:30 PM

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Just browse shelves

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 4:30 PM

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Eeeh... Okay

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 4:31 PM

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Now that I think about it I might do that myself, I wouldn't mind more room on my desk for bigger monitors or something later on

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 4:34 PM

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I can't find one that's 13 inches wide

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xd

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I don't wanna put it on the floor cus then I can't see the rgbeeeee

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 4:35 PM

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Then get a different case

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 4:35 PM

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It should emit enough RGB to light up the whole room smh

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 4:35 PM

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Eeeh

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Naaah

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Need more

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Whatever I'll put it on my desk and have 2 monitors instead of 3

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 4:37 PM

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Wow if you have enough space for that I mean phaWesker

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 4:38 PM

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I'll have enough space for a monitor in front of mme and one to the left if i put it on my desk

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I think I'll be okayt lol

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Okay why tf would I need 3 power supplys in my pc? I just found a case that allows that...

void perch Jun 25, 2020, 4:39 PM

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well servers typically have 2, primary/backup

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might also need another power supply to provide power to extra hard drives/video cards

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 4:40 PM

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Uuuh... okay...

sick reef Jun 25, 2020, 5:11 PM

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Guess it depends on how many connectors you want, and if you don't want to just run a better quality PSU.

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 5:12 PM

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Thermal take tower 900 is looking kinda awesome

void perch Jun 25, 2020, 5:12 PM

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or havebetter redundancy - if you can keep xyz running even with a failure of one PSU then could be better, etc

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 5:12 PM

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Yeah

sick reef Jun 25, 2020, 5:12 PM

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Yeah, of course.

#

Got to get those hot-swap PSUs.

torn ferry Jun 25, 2020, 6:01 PM

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The new motherboard arrives today.

jade ermine Jun 25, 2020, 6:22 PM

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What board you got

pale grotto Jun 25, 2020, 6:26 PM

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ok so there is a game breaking bug with the game that makes my computer mouse show up in the game even if the in game mouse is visible and sometimes the computer mouse dissapears and sort've locks in my last action for example if im shooting down a hallway and the freeze happens i cant stop shooting until my mouse shows up again

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ive tried game restarts, changing screen from fullscreen to windowed alt tabing and all the sorts

#

also its been happening since yesterday

eternal cairn Jun 25, 2020, 6:27 PM

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#gtfo-technical-support

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@pale grotto

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 6:49 PM

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A revisit of the Ryzen 7 2700 compared with 3700X, 3900X, 10600K, and more https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOe2n-3fiUY

torn ferry Jun 25, 2020, 7:18 PM

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@jade ermine Z390 Aorus Pro.

torn ferry Jun 25, 2020, 9:08 PM

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It has arrived.

torn ferry Jun 25, 2020, 9:26 PM

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Is this correct?

📎 image0.jpg

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 9:27 PM

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Uhh

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Looks like there's only one way to put it in so I guess yeah

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Isn't that a uh

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CPU holder or the motherboard?

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Because I can't tell which

#

Ok it's a motherboard

torn ferry Jun 25, 2020, 9:56 PM

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Right now I'm trying to figure out how the M.2 goes in.

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 9:59 PM

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Is it me or is scrolling supposed to be a fucking bastard sometimes?

#

I scroll down, it sometimes goes up

#

It just is annoying as fuck

lilac geyser Jun 25, 2020, 10:00 PM

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mouse issue?

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 10:00 PM

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Indeed it seems

#

Because it looks 100% fine

#

But when I scroll mainly in browsers, sometimes it'll go up instead of down

#

And it's irritating

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 10:01 PM

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Yeah I've had that with other mice before

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 10:01 PM

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Makes sense

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 10:01 PM

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Might be slightly dirty around the scroll wheel

torn ferry Jun 25, 2020, 10:01 PM

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Does the cover you take off of the M.2 connector go back on?

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 10:02 PM

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You could try blowing some compressed air in it

#

Yeah its a heatsink

lilac geyser Jun 25, 2020, 10:02 PM

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did you rtfm?

vapid crypt Jun 25, 2020, 10:02 PM

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And yes

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Read the Manual Shawn

#

phaWesker

torn ferry Jun 25, 2020, 10:04 PM

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I'm too stupid to understand non-descriptive and un-detailed manuals.

merry bay Jun 25, 2020, 10:04 PM

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Usually the complaint is they're too descriptive and getting confused

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 10:04 PM

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Haha

#

The images don't help?

torn ferry Jun 25, 2020, 10:05 PM

#

Is this correct?

📎 image0.jpg

merry bay Jun 25, 2020, 10:05 PM

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Hard to say. If you read the manual it would say there's a sticker on the bottom of the heatsink

#

this picture doesn't tell us if that's removed or not

torn ferry Jun 25, 2020, 10:06 PM

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I removed that, there was blue film tape on it.

merry bay Jun 25, 2020, 10:07 PM

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Seems fine then

torn ferry Jun 25, 2020, 10:07 PM

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Now it's time for thermal paste application.

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 10:21 PM

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Should give us some sweet pc porn xd

torn ferry Jun 25, 2020, 10:21 PM

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Just a pea sized circle in the center?

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 10:22 PM

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Yes

#

or rice

#

either way

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 10:24 PM

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Pea size ball

#

Pea for scale

📎 Peas-Pin-720x720.png

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:)

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 10:25 PM

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lol

torn ferry Jun 25, 2020, 10:29 PM

#

It's off center though, do I need to start over or is that fine?

📎 image0.jpg

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Should be fine

torn ferry Jun 25, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Is it too large or is it right size?

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 10:30 PM

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Looks okay to me. Just clean up anything that oozes out the size for sure

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 10:30 PM

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I want to say it's fairly bigger than I'd expect? But it's totally fine maybe

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 10:30 PM

#

Yeah

torn ferry Jun 25, 2020, 10:30 PM

#

Should I use the scraper thing included to wipe it and start over?

lilac geyser Jun 25, 2020, 10:31 PM

#

nah

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 10:31 PM

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That's called a uhh

#

Paste spreader

#

You can use it if you want, I'd imagine it'd be fairly good considering the size of the paste

lilac geyser Jun 25, 2020, 10:32 PM

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you could install the heatsink and then remove it to check how it spreads, but that is looking ok in my limited experience

torn ferry Jun 25, 2020, 10:32 PM

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Can thermal paste be cleaned if it spills out the sides?

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 10:32 PM

#

Yeah

lilac geyser Jun 25, 2020, 10:33 PM

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yeah bit its not needed, you probably bought non-conductive paste

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 10:33 PM

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If it starts to go too far out of the CPU, then redo it

torn ferry Jun 25, 2020, 10:34 PM

#

Should I use this to move it a bit more to the center?

📎 image0.jpg

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 10:34 PM

#

?

#

Oh

#

Uh

#

Just see how it goes when you apply the cooler

#

If it doesn't look good, you can just redo it

lilac geyser Jun 25, 2020, 10:35 PM

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you can, but the point of starting with a big blob is so you dont get air bubbles, as long as you dont whip an air bubble into it, or make a uneven lump that can trap air you're good

torn ferry Jun 25, 2020, 10:58 PM

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Everything but card is in now.

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 10:58 PM

#

Nice

clear quartz Jun 25, 2020, 11:10 PM

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i remember reading doing X thermal paste plasing was the best

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 11:13 PM

#

That's for bigger CPUs

#

Like threadripper

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 11:15 PM

#

would I be able to do 24gb of ram with 3 8gb sticks of ram?

#

Or would that not work due to the dual channel stuff or whatever?

clear quartz Jun 25, 2020, 11:18 PM

#

you can

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 11:20 PM

#

Would it lower the performance of it or whatever since it's like weird or something?

torn ferry Jun 25, 2020, 11:21 PM

#

Should I organize cables first before putting in the card?

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 11:22 PM

#

You don't have to but generally anyone I know or have seen do pc builds manage the cables as they go

#

It's up to you

clear quartz Jun 25, 2020, 11:23 PM

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Would it lower the performance of it or whatever since it's like weird or something?
@river thistle nothing that makes a big difference

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 11:23 PM

#

Okay

#

Cewl

merry bay Jun 25, 2020, 11:24 PM

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If you're mixing RAM kits there's a chance there will be errors or rare blue screens.

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 11:24 PM

#

I plan on getting the same ram

merry bay Jun 25, 2020, 11:24 PM

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And if you're using different speed sticks it will run them all at the slowest one's speed

#

compatibility not guaranteed

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 11:24 PM

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They'd all be 3200 so it should be fine

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 11:29 PM

#

CAS16

#

I'd just recommend doing 2 sticks or 4

#

Best to get 2 really, and buy another two later on

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 11:29 PM

#

They don't sell it in sticks of 4

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 11:29 PM

#

Sell what?

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 11:30 PM

#

Otherwise I would totally to that

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 11:30 PM

#

Sell what though

merry bay Jun 25, 2020, 11:30 PM

#

Are those second hand?

torn ferry Jun 25, 2020, 11:30 PM

#

📎 image0.jpg

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 11:30 PM

#

No

earnest rose Jun 25, 2020, 11:30 PM

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my soul? for fox girls?

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 11:30 PM

#

Looks pretty neat

torn ferry Jun 25, 2020, 11:30 PM

#

Do I need to start again?

earnest rose Jun 25, 2020, 11:30 PM

#

yes

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 11:30 PM

#

I'm buying it straight from the corsair website

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 11:30 PM

#

Try just putting a pea size

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 11:31 PM

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They don't sell white vengeance 3200mhz in sticks of 4

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 11:31 PM

#

I'm sure you know what the actual size is, not that big

#

I've seen it in 4

#

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vZrmP6/

merry bay Jun 25, 2020, 11:31 PM

#

that's very odd. usually kits come in pairs. Getting 3 is very unusual

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 11:31 PM

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It's not on their website but i'm sure there are sticks of 4

lilac geyser Jun 25, 2020, 11:31 PM

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i would wipe clean and re-apply, why'd you remove?

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 11:31 PM

#

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tW8j4D/

#

Wait that's 64

#

The first link 32

#

so eh

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 11:32 PM

#

If i got 24gb iI'd be getting a kit of two 8gb sticks, and a kit of one 8 gb stick

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 11:32 PM

#

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07D5RBR2P?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

https://www.newegg.com/corsair-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820236407?Item=N82E16820236407&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3A%2F%2Fpcpartpicker.com%2Fproduct%2FvZrmP6%2F&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-eL2RinXpSAyS1fYJd2r9yw Links are weird

lilac geyser Jun 25, 2020, 11:33 PM

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you can cut off all that tracking stiff usually, aka: https://www.newegg.com/corsair-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820236407?Item=N82E16820236407

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 11:33 PM

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That's more expensive than off the corsair website I think

merry bay Jun 25, 2020, 11:33 PM

#

How about getting a 2x8 kit first and if you feel the need get another 2x8 later?
Possible you're a-ok with just 16GB

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 11:33 PM

#

Yeah I could just get rid of everything after the model number

#

Yeah

torn ferry Jun 25, 2020, 11:33 PM

#

@lilac geyser I wanted to check if the paste spread properly.

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 11:33 PM

#

I'd recommend doing 2x8GB first

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 11:33 PM

#

But 32 is kinda overkill unless I'm like future proofing..

#

Yeah

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 11:34 PM

#

Then going for another 2x8GB if you really want it

#

We're not getting DDR5 for a good while

#

And good DDR5 is gonna come much later

lilac geyser Jun 25, 2020, 11:34 PM

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shawn: good success then, it looks like it was enough, but not so much it squished everywhere

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 11:34 PM

#

The only reason I have to get 32 gigs rn is to fill all the slots with that rgb goodness

#

true

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 11:34 PM

#

lel

#

So just go with 4x8GB if you're gonna do that

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 11:35 PM

#

If they sold it in sticks of four I'd get 4 sticks of 4

#

Yeah

#

I might decide to get another 16 I guess If I think I need/want it

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 11:35 PM

#

Those are the cheapest you can get

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 11:36 PM

#

?

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 11:36 PM

#

The RAM you want

#

This is considerably cheaper, 160$ https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ZBjWGX/corsair-vengeance-lpx-32gb-4-x-8gb-ddr4-3200-memory-cmk32gx4m4b3200c16w

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 11:36 PM

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Those aren't egb

#

Ew

#

Rgb*

#

lol

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 11:37 PM

#

lol imagine wanting RGB

#

You stinker

merry bay Jun 25, 2020, 11:37 PM

#

4x4 isn't a good idea anyway

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 11:37 PM

#

Oh wait I might be wrong

lilac geyser Jun 25, 2020, 11:37 PM

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your monitor has millions of rgb lights, isnt that enough :D

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 11:37 PM

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No I'm not

#

No it's not

merry bay Jun 25, 2020, 11:37 PM

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The speed difference of dual channel boards with 4 slots populated is very wishy washy. But definitely there. Just hard to say if it's going to be significant in your specific use-cases

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 11:37 PM

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My whole room needs to be unicorn barf

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 11:37 PM

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30$ more than what the one you wanted, https://pcpartpicker.com/product/p9VD4D/gskill-trident-z-royal-32-gb-4-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-memory-f4-3200c16q-32gtrs

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 11:38 PM

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Thhose are sexy

#

those*

#

I don't think they're aura sync though and they def aren't iCUE

#

Soo... 😦

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 11:39 PM

#

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XJVG3C/gskill-trident-z-neo-32-gb-4-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16q-32gtznc

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Same price as the other one, but looks neat

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 11:40 PM

#

Those have amd stuff on them

#

would it work with intel cpu?

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 11:40 PM

#

Yeah

#

That stuff is just marketing

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 11:40 PM

#

Plus I don't think those are aura sync either...

#

Pj

#

Oh&

#

oh*

fleet canopy Jun 25, 2020, 11:40 PM

#

On a good day, the Neo goes for 200$

#

The review for the RAM?

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"Memory was underclocked out of the box but changing the XMP in bios fixed that quickly. Not as bright or as color accurate as I'd like bit they are crafted well and have great performance!"

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I wonder why PirateSimon

merry bay Jun 25, 2020, 11:41 PM

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Almost like it's working as expected

river thistle Jun 25, 2020, 11:42 PM

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Yeah Trident uses RGB fusion so it won't sync with the other stuff... Other wise I'd get the sexy ones

torn ferry Jun 25, 2020, 11:48 PM

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I'm doing a bit of cable management now before the card goes in.

proper wren Jun 26, 2020, 12:23 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/630978473204383746/725856350843961444/video0.mov my former tech sent me a video at his new workplace lol

lilac geyser Jun 26, 2020, 12:25 AM

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monsters

torn ferry Jun 26, 2020, 12:34 AM

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Do I plug the 3 radiator fans into CPU_OPT or CPU_FAN?

lilac geyser Jun 26, 2020, 12:35 AM

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whats the difference between the two?

fleet canopy Jun 26, 2020, 12:37 AM

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CPU FAN is for first

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CPU Opt is for 2nd fan, like 2 fan AIO

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If you're getting a 2 fan AIO, just put it in

river thistle Jun 26, 2020, 12:49 AM

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Guys do I have to buy anything to use the vertical mount hole on the O11D XL? Whenever try to find one with a vertical mounted gpu online it always has a mod thing or something...

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I was looking it

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up to see if it was stable enough or something

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and yeah..

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Cuz if I have to buy a mount thing I might as well get the non XL version for the cheaper price. I'm not really losing anything...

fleet canopy Jun 26, 2020, 12:52 AM

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You need to order a vertical mount and then some other thing I cannot remember

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But it's really ezpz

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Just some screws in and cables going in

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Other than that

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Doesn't the XL comes with a vertical?

river thistle Jun 26, 2020, 12:53 AM

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I might as well just get the normal one then right?

fleet canopy Jun 26, 2020, 12:53 AM

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At least have one?

river thistle Jun 26, 2020, 12:53 AM

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Yeah it comes with a vertical slot

fleet canopy Jun 26, 2020, 12:53 AM

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So it's just one of the thingies

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Uh

river thistle Jun 26, 2020, 12:54 AM

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But everytime I look it up you need some sort of mod thing supposedly... So why have a vertical hole if you need to buy a mod thing anyways?

fleet canopy Jun 26, 2020, 12:54 AM

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I'm not seeing any vertical support

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You need to order a separate vertical mount

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If they're the ones that are like

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Uh

river thistle Jun 26, 2020, 12:55 AM

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It's got a vertical slot in between the side panel and the horizobtal ones doesn't it?

fleet canopy Jun 26, 2020, 12:55 AM

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From a video I'm seeing, there's none

river thistle Jun 26, 2020, 12:56 AM

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On the back theres even a thumb screw you can pull out for the XL version...

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If it's not a vertical mount then what is it, and what's the difference between he xl and the normal dynamic???

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I'm confused

fleet canopy Jun 26, 2020, 12:57 AM

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Oh I see it now

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Yeah

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You do of course need like

river thistle Jun 26, 2020, 12:58 AM

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I need an extention cable ofc. But Do I need a mod bracket or something? Cuz every video and Picture I find you do

fleet canopy Jun 26, 2020, 12:58 AM

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Well motherboards don't come with a vertical support cable PCIe x16 cable, so you're going to need to order that separately

river thistle Jun 26, 2020, 12:59 AM

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Couldn't I just get a normal PCIE extenstion cable?

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And call it good?

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Or to I need one with a metal bar thingy?

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For support?

fleet canopy Jun 26, 2020, 12:59 AM

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Thaaaat's what I'm saying I guess?

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Uhh

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I'm not very smart in vertical GPU support

river thistle Jun 26, 2020, 1:01 AM

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Do you think it'd be sturdy enough with just a normal extension cable and screwing it into the vertical slot?

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Ah

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Maybe El Demino or however you spell it would know...

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El Demonio

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I was close

royal finch Jun 26, 2020, 1:14 AM

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Anyone have an RX 580 here?

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Or 570

river thistle Jun 26, 2020, 1:15 AM

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Yeah

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I got a 570

royal finch Jun 26, 2020, 1:15 AM

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What’s your temps run at about a hour into gameplay

river thistle Jun 26, 2020, 1:15 AM

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Uuuuh... I don't habve that great of cooling so prolly lik 80 ish?

royal finch Jun 26, 2020, 1:15 AM

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Damn bro I just solved that

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Downloaded speedfan and configured it

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Been about 2 hours running at a solid 60C

river thistle Jun 26, 2020, 1:16 AM

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Nice

royal finch Jun 26, 2020, 1:16 AM

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Thanks just asking cause I wanted to see the differences

river thistle Jun 26, 2020, 1:17 AM

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Yeah

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If I had an actual decent case and actually had a few fans It would be way lower

royal finch Jun 26, 2020, 1:18 AM

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I only got one fan not counting my GPU fan and CPU fan

river thistle Jun 26, 2020, 1:18 AM

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Damn

royal finch Jun 26, 2020, 1:18 AM

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I mainly use my GPU fan to cool itself

river thistle Jun 26, 2020, 1:18 AM

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I got 0 not counting my gpu fan

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lol

royal finch Jun 26, 2020, 1:18 AM

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Lol 😂 ya that is worse lmao

river thistle Jun 26, 2020, 1:18 AM

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I got no cpu fan

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lol

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It is

royal finch Jun 26, 2020, 1:18 AM

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Wtf

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Why no cpu fan

river thistle Jun 26, 2020, 1:18 AM

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Idfk

royal finch Jun 26, 2020, 1:19 AM

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How do you keep the temp low what’s the core count

river thistle Jun 26, 2020, 1:19 AM

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It's one of those shitty small small air ones withough a fan

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I don't

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It runs at lik 110985750239 degrees

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lol

royal finch Jun 26, 2020, 1:19 AM

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My god my man you gotta get in that somehow

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It’ll destroy itself eventually

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On*

river thistle Jun 26, 2020, 1:20 AM

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I wish I could buy better stuff

bright shard Jun 26, 2020, 1:20 AM

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harness it with a thermal turbine.

river thistle Jun 26, 2020, 1:20 AM

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I don't have job though and dada isn't willing to get me a new case and stuff

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dad*

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Thermal turbine

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soiunds expensive

royal finch Jun 26, 2020, 1:21 AM

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I feel you I’m livin on my college moneys but at home so I eat the fams food help out around the house and get fasfa to pay for my books and computer stuff I need for my classes

river thistle Jun 26, 2020, 1:22 AM

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I'm 15...

royal finch Jun 26, 2020, 1:22 AM

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You’ll get there bro life moves fast

river thistle Jun 26, 2020, 1:22 AM

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I could have gotten a job last year but theres was like 0 options

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I wanna apply for skyzone but I need two referances

royal finch Jun 26, 2020, 1:23 AM

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Haha skyzone is pretty dope anyways good luck in finding a job and stuff

river thistle Jun 26, 2020, 1:23 AM

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Thanks man. Good luck with your colledge stuff

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My CPU cooler

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Since you were asking

fleet canopy Jun 26, 2020, 1:37 AM

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Get a hyper 212 evo for now if you're not looking to spend so much @river thistle

river thistle Jun 26, 2020, 1:37 AM

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I can't really spend any of my money

fleet canopy Jun 26, 2020, 1:37 AM

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Oh?

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No debit card to buy online?

river thistle Jun 26, 2020, 1:38 AM

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Parents won't let me buy expensive things until I have a reliable money source to earn it back from

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And idk if it would fit in this shitty case

fleet canopy Jun 26, 2020, 1:38 AM

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It's 30$

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The hyper 212 is like

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At least 30$

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And it's been the one people bought instead of shitty Intel crap coolers

river thistle Jun 26, 2020, 1:40 AM

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That cooler is prolly taller than the whole case lmao

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But yeah pretty much anytime I run anything heavier load than YouTube it runs at like 90 to 100 celcioous

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I'm surprised it hasn't melted by now

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Here's a better angle

📎 IMG_20200625_204342348.jpg

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Not my exact PC but same model and whatever

torn ferry Jun 26, 2020, 1:52 AM

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System got to the post screen.

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And all 4 RAM sticks are detected.

fleet canopy Jun 26, 2020, 1:55 AM

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Epic

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Proceed with everything now lol

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Any help needed, ask away

torn ferry Jun 26, 2020, 1:58 AM

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What are some things I should do with cable management?

earnest rose Jun 26, 2020, 1:59 AM

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ductape

abstract kite Jun 26, 2020, 2:00 AM

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Try to make those cable look as clean as you see fit I guess

fleet canopy Jun 26, 2020, 2:00 AM

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lol imagine using duct tape

bright shard Jun 26, 2020, 2:00 AM

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zipties, good quality twistite-ties.

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definitely not duct tape unless its really high quality stuff.

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ducttape turns to a sticky goopy horrid mess after a few years.

torn ferry Jun 26, 2020, 2:01 AM

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I'm using zip ties mainly.

earnest rose Jun 26, 2020, 2:01 AM

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ah

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i just tuck them behind... dont worry bout them too much

fleet canopy Jun 26, 2020, 2:02 AM

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Duct tape is just horrible

torn ferry Jun 26, 2020, 2:02 AM

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My only concern is trying to get the PSU cables to fit within the back so I can close everything back up.

earnest rose Jun 26, 2020, 2:02 AM

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no

fleet canopy Jun 26, 2020, 2:02 AM

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Yes

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It is god awful to try and remove each time

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Gunky ass sticky barf

bright shard Jun 26, 2020, 2:03 AM

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i have some cables with duct tape goop on them, and i skeeve every time i brush against them.

torn ferry Jun 26, 2020, 2:09 AM

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For the best thermals, what way should the side mounted fans in the O11 Dynamic XL face?

fleet canopy Jun 26, 2020, 2:15 AM

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Are you doing a vertical GPU? @torn ferry

torn ferry Jun 26, 2020, 2:15 AM

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No.

fleet canopy Jun 26, 2020, 2:16 AM

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Then uhh

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Intake on the side, top and bottom should be exhaust

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Or you could do top intake, bottom exhaust

torn ferry Jun 26, 2020, 2:17 AM

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So intake is blowing air inside the case?

fleet canopy Jun 26, 2020, 2:17 AM

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Yeah

torn ferry Jun 26, 2020, 2:17 AM

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How would top and side intake, bottom exhaust be?

fleet canopy Jun 26, 2020, 2:18 AM

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Well the GPU would still be facing down, so it pushes air down

torn ferry Jun 26, 2020, 2:18 AM

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Top intake, side and bottom exhaust?

fleet canopy Jun 26, 2020, 2:18 AM

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Top and side intake, bottom exhaust

torn ferry Jun 26, 2020, 2:19 AM

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Is that the best for thermals?

fleet canopy Jun 26, 2020, 2:19 AM

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I do not know

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But it should be

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It's basically the air all going down

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And the GPU is faced exhaust so it works nicely

restive garnet Jun 26, 2020, 2:23 AM

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iirc, you had a top mounted rad, so i would do bottom front and side as intake, top and back as exhaust

torn ferry Jun 26, 2020, 2:34 AM

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I'm trying to figure out how high the bottom fan needs to be placed on the side before I start screwing it in.

restive garnet Jun 26, 2020, 2:50 AM

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usually its just a bit of wiggle room for clearance, in case you have bottom or side radiators that conflict

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probably just start about half way and leave it a little bit loose so you can slide it up or down if need be

void perch Jun 26, 2020, 2:59 AM

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So I'm considering between a threadripper 24 core w/ 256 GB RAM and a 2080 Super for basically the same price, or this server. I'm really leaning towards the server as the threadripper would be massively under-utilized unless I make it a server machine and at that point.. i should just get a 2nd server

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torn ferry Jun 26, 2020, 3:02 AM

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@restive garnet are the screws aligned incorrectly if the screws become stiff before they are all the way in?

restive garnet Jun 26, 2020, 3:02 AM

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almost definitely

torn ferry Jun 26, 2020, 3:05 AM

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I am struggling with trying to get the fans aligned.

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Every time I try screwing it in, the screws become stiff and I stop immediately thinking it's wrong.

bright shard Jun 26, 2020, 3:20 AM

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so, the thing with fan screws, it depends on the type of screw you're using

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if its the thick AF screws, they're designed to dig into the plastic of the fan.

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if its a regular screw, it probably either means there is side pressure from the fan not being centered properly, or the screw wasnt threaded on properly.

torn ferry Jun 26, 2020, 3:22 AM

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It's Corsair QL120 fan screws.

bright shard Jun 26, 2020, 3:22 AM

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take picture of screw.

torn ferry Jun 26, 2020, 3:23 AM

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📎 image0.jpg

bright shard Jun 26, 2020, 3:24 AM

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looks like the one thats designed to dig into the plastic

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if you look closely on the holes of the fan itself, you'll see that there's no precut threads

torn ferry Jun 26, 2020, 3:25 AM

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So it's normal for me to feel tightness after the screw is halfway in?

bright shard Jun 26, 2020, 3:26 AM

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however, you're putting the fan on the case right?

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check to see if the screw will thread into the case, or if its slightly smaller than the hole.

torn ferry Jun 26, 2020, 3:27 AM

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Working on the side mount, but I don't know what is the best way to do it.

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Cause it seems like a job meant for two people.

bright shard Jun 26, 2020, 3:27 AM

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magnetic screwdrivers definitely simplify the pc building process.

torn ferry Jun 26, 2020, 3:28 AM

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But I'm needing to reach around the front glass to try and hold the fan in place while I try to align two screws in the opposite corners first.

bright shard Jun 26, 2020, 3:29 AM

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are there threads on the holes of the case?

torn ferry Jun 26, 2020, 3:30 AM

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Not individual holes, no.

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They're more like these elongated circle holes all along the mounting area.

bright shard Jun 26, 2020, 3:32 AM

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so, what you want is for the screw to be screwed in from the opposite side of whatever wall

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that you're screwing it on to. so like
screw | panel | fan

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since the fan screws are designed to cut into the plastic on the fan, you'll meet more resistance the further you screw them in.

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but you shouldn't not be able to turn them at all.

proper wren Jun 26, 2020, 3:42 AM

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https://www.newegg.ca/p/39E-0012-00056?Item=9SIA4FC8V68940&cm_sp=homepage_dailydeals-_-p4_9SIA4FC8V68940-_-06252020

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@fleet canopy

river thistle Jun 26, 2020, 3:42 AM

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Ooooh....

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Interesting

fleet canopy Jun 26, 2020, 3:49 AM

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Ughgghghhgh

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Epci

abstract kite Jun 26, 2020, 4:07 AM

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Yo guys

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I currently have this pc https://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-Desktop-5-580-1TB/dp/B07JJ1ZFKH

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And I want to upgrade my gpu to this https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-GeForce-Graphics-192-bit-GV-N2060IXOC-6GD/dp/B07M6VMTRQ/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=rtx+2060+mini&qid=1593144662&sr=8-2

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And I understand I need a psu upgrade as well but which one would you recommend for me to buy that’s fits my pc? And if so can I get a link ?

bright shard Jun 26, 2020, 4:17 AM

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from the amazon page of your desktop:
1: It is proprietary. This means no psu upgrades and etc.

2:The cpu and gpu can handle most titles fine. Even those that aren't very well optimized(WoW). BUT, it will need more RAM. 2 of the 8 gigs are reserved for the integrated graphics and often you will often bottleneck as the computer reaches to the disk for more memory. Get another 8 gigs and it will run like a champ.

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i dont know if they're using proprietary psu cables.

fleet canopy Jun 26, 2020, 4:19 AM

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"AMD Ryzen 5-Series"

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Spec page

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CPU Model

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"AMD R Series"

bright shard Jun 26, 2020, 4:20 AM

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HP is notorious for being peices of shit of a company.

fleet canopy Jun 26, 2020, 4:20 AM

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"EVERYTHING on this pc is proprietary, the power supply , motherboard, cpu cooler, cpu cooler mounting pattern. case. wish i had known before i bought it. complete joke thought i was getting a good deal but apon seeing that nothing in the pc could ever be upgraded i instantly returned the pc. just to let you know dont buy this if your somone who may want to change one of those things, there could even be more, thats what i found within 5 mins and never even turned the pc on instant return"

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The worthwhile PC upgrade is the PSU, RAM, maybe mobo, case, fans, maybe CPU cooler

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Ryzen 5 as we know are still pretty great

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1600 is still a nice CPU

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Should I upgrade to a Ryzen 3600 with a B450 Tomahawk MAX and 16GB 3.6Ghz CAS16 RAM now?

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Because I can get it on my birthday pretty soon

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Over a 7700K with a 2.4GHz CAS16

late sorrel Jun 26, 2020, 4:24 AM

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I mean, how hype are the rumors about ryzen 4th gen

abstract kite Jun 26, 2020, 4:24 AM

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I can I still stream and record good then?

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And play newer games

fleet canopy Jun 26, 2020, 4:24 AM

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Birthday is gonna be on July 1st, so I might as well buy it now

late sorrel Jun 26, 2020, 4:25 AM

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No, I wouldn’t.

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I would wait for 4th gen, because there should be quite a jump considering they changed some important stuff

abstract kite Jun 26, 2020, 4:26 AM

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Well Ig I’ll build a pc

late sorrel Jun 26, 2020, 4:26 AM

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esp. the ccx

fleet canopy Jun 26, 2020, 4:26 AM

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True

vapid crypt Jun 26, 2020, 4:26 AM

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Yes there will be a significant increase thanks to reduced latency

fleet canopy Jun 26, 2020, 4:26 AM

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For Zen 3?

vapid crypt Jun 26, 2020, 4:26 AM

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I'll eventually just get a Zen 2 part cause it will be really cheap PirateSimon

fleet canopy Jun 26, 2020, 4:27 AM

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Because I'm not sure I could wait that long

late sorrel Jun 26, 2020, 4:27 AM

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what, 4 months?

vapid crypt Jun 26, 2020, 4:28 AM

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You've had that CPU for 3 years, what's another few months?

fleet canopy Jun 26, 2020, 4:28 AM

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Well, I do have a birthday

late sorrel Jun 26, 2020, 4:28 AM

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just save

fleet canopy Jun 26, 2020, 4:28 AM

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I guess so yeah

vapid crypt Jun 26, 2020, 4:28 AM

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Sure

late sorrel Jun 26, 2020, 4:28 AM

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I can’t, I have to get 3300x, otherwise I wouldn’t be spending anything

fleet canopy Jun 26, 2020, 4:28 AM

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I'll just have to see how it is

potent cave Jun 26, 2020, 4:43 AM

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For someone who doesn’t play heavy games but likes their decent games looking good. Is a 2060 super better for the price vs a 2070 super? Like if it can’t run ultra I’m good with high but I’m also tryna save money and not break the bank for a build

fleet canopy Jun 26, 2020, 4:48 AM

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Depends what you're aiming for in resolution + FPS

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If you're going 1440p 144hz, get a 2070 Super of course

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If you're aiming 1080p 144hz, get a 2060 Super

bright shard Jun 26, 2020, 4:49 AM

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personally, i aim for 1080p 120hz if i were to build a pc on a budget.

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2060 super should be enough at that, either way.

fleet canopy Jun 26, 2020, 4:50 AM

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The difference with 120 and 144 is kind of meh for it's price, so just find whatever's good in price

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In 1080p between 120 and 144 ofc

bright shard Jun 26, 2020, 4:50 AM

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just keep in mind, superclocked cards are gonna make more heat, so you should keep that in mind.

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so heat does not throttle them

potent cave Jun 26, 2020, 4:54 AM

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Alright, and to answer frames I’m hoping to buy a 144htz 1080p later but I’m stuck with ol generic 1080p 60htz lame boy.

fleet canopy Jun 26, 2020, 4:54 AM

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I'm stuck with a 1440p 60Hz when I could have gotten a 1080p 144hz

bright shard Jun 26, 2020, 4:54 AM

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how old is the monitor? if its newer than 3 or so years you might be able to make it do 75hz

potent cave Jun 26, 2020, 4:56 AM

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I think we’ve had it for around 3-4 years maybe

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Another question. Anyone have an opinion on the Corsair 220T tempered glass case?

bright shard Jun 26, 2020, 5:00 AM

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i like fan filters on the case, downside is no front cd bays, and the front kinda looks tacky.

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although if its the one that has a glass panel in front of the front fans, i hate it.

torn ferry Jun 26, 2020, 5:47 AM

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Ignore cable issues.

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potent cave Jun 26, 2020, 5:47 AM

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I mean ya got them pretty organized. Pretty build tho

lilac geyser Jun 26, 2020, 5:49 AM

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thats a lot of fans

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congrats on getting it to work

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BuffaloMeat: that pc still seems pretty capable

torn ferry Jun 26, 2020, 5:53 AM

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Where do I start?

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fleet canopy Jun 26, 2020, 5:53 AM

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Poo poo in the back

torn ferry Jun 26, 2020, 5:55 AM

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What should I start with first?

fleet canopy Jun 26, 2020, 5:56 AM

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Stuff all the cables in the back somewhere

lilac geyser Jun 26, 2020, 5:56 AM

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i'd just tie them down so they dont move and are out of the way of the panel

torn ferry Jun 26, 2020, 5:57 AM

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How does front cable management look though?

bright shard Jun 26, 2020, 6:32 AM

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unless you paid out the arse for custom length cables, the back panel always looks like crap.

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use whatever ziptie locations you can to pull the cables in.

proper wren Jun 26, 2020, 6:43 AM

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To Canadians out there

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We have XT processors in stores but not yet revealed till embargo lift uwu

lilac geyser Jun 26, 2020, 7:20 AM

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dense wasp Jun 26, 2020, 7:26 AM

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exciting

late sorrel Jun 26, 2020, 7:26 AM

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Simon’s seeing a charger being added into r3

fleet canopy Jun 26, 2020, 7:31 AM

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Hm

torn ferry Jun 26, 2020, 8:05 AM

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Build complete.

dense wasp Jun 26, 2020, 8:31 AM

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workign?

rapid plume Jun 26, 2020, 8:34 AM

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Omg please tell me you cleaned the wires up

torn ferry Jun 26, 2020, 9:01 AM

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Kind of, but I made sure things had a place.

vapid crypt Jun 26, 2020, 9:49 AM

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Say that looks pretty cool... despite the spaghetti mess in the back PirateSimon

brisk badger Jun 26, 2020, 9:53 AM

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are the fans blowing air out to the side of the case?

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the rainbow puke makes it impossible to see in what direction the airflow is

vapid crypt Jun 26, 2020, 11:22 AM

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Its intaking from the bottom and exhausting from the side and top

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So negative pressure phaSheva

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Looking at the back again, you should really get those cables out of the way of the fans; and maybe consider flipping the side fans around to use as an intake instead for positive pressure

brisk badger Jun 26, 2020, 11:24 AM

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well that's not smart IMO if the fans on the side (pic above) is taking air to the side (back) of the case

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how does air reach the mobo when it's being sucked away?

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example

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the blue fans

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bottom right

vapid crypt Jun 26, 2020, 11:25 AM

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Yeah that bottom blue fan is doing nothing

brisk badger Jun 26, 2020, 11:26 AM

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i dont see any air going through the mainboard

vapid crypt Jun 26, 2020, 11:26 AM

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Its just exhausting for nothing

brisk badger Jun 26, 2020, 11:26 AM

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just hot air leaving from the GPU

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there is no fans on the right side I guess? (front of the pc)

vapid crypt Jun 26, 2020, 11:27 AM

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Yeah the front is just a glass panel

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So the best intake points are the bottom and side

brisk badger Jun 26, 2020, 11:28 AM

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i feel like the 3 fans that blow air to the back of the case are more counterproductive. could be totally wrong but i don't see how fresh air is ever reaching the mobo, espcailly it's VRMS

sick reef Jun 26, 2020, 11:28 AM

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Aren't the top fan exhaust, and the bottom fan intakes?

vapid crypt Jun 26, 2020, 11:28 AM

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That's correct

brisk badger Jun 26, 2020, 11:28 AM

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yea bottom 3 are intake

sick reef Jun 26, 2020, 11:28 AM

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So how would air not go over the motherboard?

brisk badger Jun 26, 2020, 11:29 AM

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it blows all air into the GPU

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and the right side does nothing

sick reef Jun 26, 2020, 11:29 AM

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The GPU isn't the width of the case.

brisk badger Jun 26, 2020, 11:29 AM

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well the right side takes airt away of the PC 😄

sick reef Jun 26, 2020, 11:30 AM

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Yeah, but you still have the left channels which might create turbulence behind the GPU, which would be channeled by the top fans?

vapid crypt Jun 26, 2020, 11:30 AM

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It would be much better to make the side fans intakes regardless

brisk badger Jun 26, 2020, 11:31 AM

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the air that is reaching the mobo is probably warm already

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personally i would have made the right side as intake

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at least 2 fans do nothing but creating light and noise

sick reef Jun 26, 2020, 11:33 AM

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Yeah, the fans air would likely be warm, but that's what happens when you use radiator intake. hmmm

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This is what I mean regardless, I'm no aerodynamicist, but kind of this.

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vapid crypt Jun 26, 2020, 11:35 AM

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Oh the radiator is exhausting

sick reef Jun 26, 2020, 11:35 AM

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The bottom isn't radiator, right.

vapid crypt Jun 26, 2020, 11:35 AM

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Its mounted to the top

brisk badger Jun 26, 2020, 11:35 AM

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i think the top ones are. following the cpu watercooling cable

sick reef Jun 26, 2020, 11:36 AM

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On the other hand, you see how it most likely creates two air pockets?

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Which is what I call "turbulence"

brisk badger Jun 26, 2020, 11:36 AM

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okay that makes sense, I was imagening the card is wider

sick reef Jun 26, 2020, 11:37 AM

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It's not a perfect representation, but I can't imagine the card just plugging against the glass face.

brisk badger Jun 26, 2020, 11:37 AM

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but one fan's work at the bottom is still for nothing because the right side fan takes it all away. odd concept

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in the end we argue maybe bout 1-2° difference

sick reef Jun 26, 2020, 11:38 AM

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Yeah, those fan pairs, assuming there isn't any radiator in the bottom, is only sucking air out of the space it's pulling it in from.

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Is the PSU down there, or up right?

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Or was it that backmounted one?

vapid crypt Jun 26, 2020, 11:38 AM

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Its behind the motherboard tray

sick reef Jun 26, 2020, 11:39 AM

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I would, if I was doing this for myself, flip the rightmost fan to out, then set all backplate fans to in.

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If I didn't want to keep uniformity, I would take one of the corner fans and place it above the PSU, as out.

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That would give an active airflow out for any heat that accumulates from the back of the motherboard, or surrounding but not in line with, the PSU.

torn ferry Jun 26, 2020, 2:31 PM

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Does an M.2 SSD disable certain SATA ports?

sick reef Jun 26, 2020, 2:31 PM

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Depends on the board, but it can do that, yes.

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It should say in the motherboard manual when it does this, and how it works.

brisk badger Jun 26, 2020, 2:34 PM

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i thought M.2 uses PCI-E lanes whereas SATA communicates to the ICH

torn ferry Jun 26, 2020, 2:37 PM

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I'm trying to figure out why the SATA SSD isn't being detected.

brisk badger Jun 26, 2020, 2:38 PM

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tried different port? very often some sata ports are controlled by an external controller that can be disabled in the BIOS

torn ferry Jun 26, 2020, 2:39 PM

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Should I check the BIOS?

vapid crypt Jun 26, 2020, 2:41 PM

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If you didn't install the m.2 into the top slot, it might have disabled some sata ports

brisk badger Jun 26, 2020, 2:48 PM

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does a m2 not always use the CPU lanes directly?

torn ferry Jun 26, 2020, 2:59 PM

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Yep, it was wrong port.

sick reef Jun 26, 2020, 3:08 PM

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All PCIe lanes are equal, just divided by how the motherboard is set up.

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Or CPU lanes rather.

torn ferry Jun 26, 2020, 3:13 PM

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Which browser should I choose?

restive garnet Jun 26, 2020, 3:16 PM

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whatever suits you best

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i prefer chrome, but it loves chewing up your ram

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firefox is better in that regard

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TOR if you are frequenting illegal websites 😉

torn ferry Jun 26, 2020, 3:17 PM

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Does Firefox have any downsides?

restive garnet Jun 26, 2020, 3:17 PM

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just general user experience really