#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk
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Okay cool
one gram is plenty
ive been using the same 1 gram stick of cooler master paste for the last 4 years
been replacing the paste every 6 months or thereabouts
word is, its enough for 5-10 applications.
When I first put on the paste it really doesn't look like enough
Thermal Grizzily Kryonaut Thermal Greas Paste
thats the stuff
Yeap
Ah
but the performance slowly diminishes
I'll replace every year then
i havent repasted for 8 years.
57 dollars if I ship from hong kong
i just find it good practice to replace whenever you take the cooler off
@bright shard you use clay for passive cooling.
you can go 8 years without repasting, but i can guarantee if you take your cooler off now, that shitll be rock hard
and thermal conductivity will have dropped through the floor
probably are
but they will still be a noticeable difference from where they could be
granted, even going from a regular silicon based paste to a gallium based liquid metal, for like 8x the thermal conductivity, you might only lose about 10 degrees
So you want to replace it when it gets hard?
to maintain peak performance, yeah
Ah
isopropyl alcohol and dense cotton makeup pads
Ass
Rubbing alcohol on a cotton ball? Unless thats bad
Yeah
leaving little bits of fluff everywhere
Would running alcohol be okay though?
same reason you dont use toilet paper, but you can use thick paper towels
yeah, rubbing alochol is fine
Okay
i generally use filter paper and ISO.
Special type of alcohol 99% isopropyl is the best
anything over 90% is generally fine
i try to go for above 95% tho
coz its like 10 bucks a bottle for 95% over here
but 20 bucks for 99
end of the day it does the exact same job
its been hard to find iso lately in general.
Yeah
i got lucky and picked up a fresh bottle before this whole thing kicked off
and even then
they thought i was an alcoholic trying to get cheap alcohol
didnt help i hadnt had a shave or hair cut in about 6 months
lmao
i know the feeling.
as soon as i started describing exactly what i wanted it for they gave it to me without any further trouble
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XmJrgJ Anything I didn't add I already have besides the commander pro thing
And a gpu
whats with the acer monitor?
I'm gonna get it
no pricing on it tho
It's 300 bucks
might wanna chuck that in there
cant comment
i hate acer stuff with a passion
so i basically ignore everything except their halo products
and dont know enough specifically about most of their products to objectively comment
wait, they wouldn't sell you ISO? were you buying bulk or something?
I don't like acer unless it's their monitors
and halo
Is there any benefit to putting 2 dp or 2 hdmi cables into your monitor?
nope
Oh
just stick to a single displayport
Well I'm gonna use my 1080p 75hz monitor that i have for a primary as a secondary
And posibly my 1600 by 900??? 60 hz monitor for a third
?
4;3 aspect ratio
No idea what counts as a 4;3
1920x1080 is 16:9
I think my phone is a 16:9 ratio
4:3 is more like 720x480
im sure it goes higher than that, but again, i came here to get wasted, not do math
My phone is a 21:9 ratio
most phones seem to be
there was a huge deal a few years back when i think it was apple moved to 21:9
Most phones from my experience use 16:9...
my small form tablet is almost the perfect ratio for comics/textbooks.
Yeah I know
sorry, i saw the 1k phone thing and thought you were mistaken
Yeah
Unicorn barf pc. Can't wait till this is mine...
not realizing that it cost me like 200 bucks NZ
Yeah xd
i dont like people that put figures inside their towers.
I don't plan on that lol
i will put a cortana figure inside my tower in your honor
Lol
but i kinda want the opportunity to stick a mini-rubber chicken in one just to bool.
It's so freaking clean. This is the picture that made me want to do a white build instead of a black build.
i prefer the dark theme
right now ive got all my LL fans set to a lava theme
which goes beautifully on a black case
Is there a way to get the radiator with white fans like that? I don't see one on corsair webstie 😦
I just have purple lights 
Idk what lava theme look like
you can order white versions of the LL fans seperately
I know but that's mroe expensivve....
shifting from a red-orange to white/yellow and back
i like elements of it
the fans look good
the soft tubing makes me wanna die
as does the case
and the power supply
Sodt tubing is easeir to work with
vertical GPU
I meant how the stuff is outside of the case thoughj
white mobo
He got that lisa su signature stuck to the power supply 
i get the theme he was going for, and i like it, i just hate the execution
I'm not sure what the presentation was going for. it occludes itself a lot
The theme is Team RED... also white power supplies are cool 
they are cool, when they fit the build
The dream pc...
you wouldnt just stick a white power supply in a dark themed build
the windows screensaver build.
Hahahaha
cant be the 2005 screensaver tho, otherwise the reservoir would be a bucket full of water
😉
That lighting at the bottom is so cool
looks like a sheet of frosted glass/acryllic with an rgb strip along the bottom of it
Maybe
you could do that for like 10 bucks
ah yes, please illuminate my house with the lights off.
Lol
actually i take it back, at closer look its more like a psu shroud sort of deal
hard to tell for me, my monitor makes every picture look like it was designed for ants
plus im basically blind lol
high res monitor?
Can anyone spot why I want an infinity mirror?
34 inch 3440x1440
Aside from it being cool looking, not really. Its an awful case thermally 
images for mites.
i wish windows UI scaling was better.
also I heard ultra wide monitors are kind of hit or miss with a lot of games
its everything else that doesnt scale along side it
pretty much accurate
the only bethesda title with ultrawide support afaik is fallout 76
and it only got that several months after launch
otherwise, i have modded previous titles to run ultrawide, but everthing is really weird
the only thing fallout 76 supports was everyones crippling disapointment.
i bought it day one, played it for a week, and didnt touch it again till the wastelanders update
where i played it for another week, and havent touched it since
Sounds about right
worst purchase ever
titanfall 2 tho
you havent experienced mech combat till you do it using an ultrawide
I know they rolled it back, but I'm glad I haven't gotten Doom Eternal yet because I knew Bethesda was gonna implement something shitty at some point
i got the doom eternal collectors edition
thankfully, i got it a bit later than i was supposed to, and got to miss denuvo by a few days
They're gonna add the stupid Anti-cheat again just make it separate from single player, which is fine I guess
Still not a fan of Denuvo anti-tamper in general though
i dont plan on playing MP anyway, so i couldnt care less what they do to it
as long as they leave my single player alone
if a game actively cannot run under linux, i'm greatly not interested.
im to lazy for linux
i just want to leave windows eventually.
i greatly appreciate the flexibility it offers, i just dont need it
at least, not on my main PC
I will gladly leap off the windows train once Windows 10 gets axed
ill happily use it on HTPCs and servers tho
Could I do a cpu and gpu watercooling loop thing with 290 ish dollars?
Just wondering
Seriously, this is Air Cool gang territory
Cuz if it's lik 300 bucks, it'll be the same price as cutting out some fans where it would go, and the cpu aio
And I get that extra performance for that same price
ah
it would be a lot more hassle to though
just cut a hole for the fans, much easier
also, since when was cutting a hole and buying an aio 300$?
should be closer to 200
Why would I need ot cut a whole?
oh sorry, Mis read
I thought you were saying that you’d have to cut a hole in your case & buy an aio for improved performance
Would an AIO and fans cost 300 bucks though?
the aio and set of three fans is 290
Even if its those LL fans or whatever, what is that like 90 for 3 fans?
which aio are you buying
it's 130 for 3 white LL120 fans
Can't you make ARGB fans all white if you wanted to?
Uuh... idk
I'd need to find the O11 case water block thing though, a gpu block when the 3000 series comes out, and a intel 10th gen cpu block
Pluss all the tubing
I don't know if that's possible with a 300 dollar budget
Uh no I doubt it
Darn..
it's 165 just for the case whater plate things
holy crap
74 for a cpu block
prolly another 100 for the gpu block
oof
Don't think that's be possible
And you need two radiators fans for each
Yeah to cool both the cpu and gpu
Yeah
How much would tubing and fittings be?
It's 230 just for two triple radiators
okay nvm we're not doing water cooling lol
Well see that's the thing, that kind of water cooling is what enthusiasts like to do cause they want to put the money into it. The kind of performance you get from it isn't worth all the money
Yeah
Outside of it looking really cool, that's part of it. No one would do it if it didn't probably 
Yeah
Or at least wouldn't be interested outside of the performance aspect even if it is small
Technically there are custom gpus that you can buy that uses AIOs
Like the EVGA Kingpin
Interesting
Some take a hybrid approach
They're prolly super expensive though right?
There have been cards in the past where the reference model used a liquid cooling solution, like the Fury X
Yeah
That was $750
For the extra money you pay you're better off getting custom water cooling for you're whole pc
Or just better parts in general
Air is fine, it works and you don't pay an arm and a leg or even risk damaging components. Not that the risk is high with all in ones, but yeah 
Yeah
all it takes is a loose tube connector.
gigabyte water force and a few MSI cards used AIO, at least back on pascall
but also, the two radiators for 2 components thing is sorta horse shit
rule of thumb is at normal rad thickness and density, roughly a 35mm ek rad, its 120mm for every component you are cooling, plus 120mm on top.
more rads if you are doing heavy overclocks or are using slim radiators
but in terms of cost, look at eks MLC phoenix
or their classic soft tubing kits
Density? 
fin density
Wouldn't that purely depend on material used
Or do you mean the number of of fins over a specific length?
number of fins over specific length
I see.
more fins = less air flow, but larger surface area to dissipate heat
means that its going to cool water easier, but have less airflow and hotter air inside the case
Well, it also depends on how thick the fins are as well, as to how efficiently it will dissipate that heat too.
yes and no
the size of a fin does affect cooling capacity, but its negligible unless it affects overall fin density
in which case you would have less cooling
It isn't negligible
its basic physics
It's thermodynamics.
its based upon the surface area available for heat to travel
thermodynamics is applied physics
The accumulation of heat in an object, and how it is thus transferred from the object. Same surface area, but the the object carries more heat in itself.
Thickness actually matters for that transfer.
but not so much as overall surface area
why do you think regardless of air coolers or radiators, fin thickness is in the sub 1mm territory
yes, having it thicker allows it to contain higher amounts of thermal energy, but it is irrelevant in the case of cooling
Only 30%??
well we dont know what card it was
It might be the 3080
It has the same amount of shaders on a smaller node
6GHz, wut
reading error i bet
Clocked much higher too
No
Oh?
also time spy is best benchmark for turing cards so thats hyping it more for ampere
Perhaps
even if its 3080 im happy
Didn't know kingpin got that much faster
i mean LN2 does wonders
So perhaps it is a 3080 then
I can only imagine
No way it's a 3090 though
Disappointing in price to performance?
Sure
3070 would be around 2080ti or slower, 3080 ~ +30% and flagship 50% or some shit
Then you add up rtx and dlss improvements
boner
It was only like 25% faster
Hm
And then 70% more expensive
2xxx series were dissapointing all around
Well that's pretty lame
most likely because maxwell -> pascal was gigantic leap in performance
then turing comes in and its really expensive with small leap
But at least the lower ends like the 2070/Super and 2060 KO was alright
im just concerned about prices lol. Im sure performance will be amazing going from 12 to 7nm
Well this looks like it could be about as big as a leap as Pascal
i have saved up alot but it would be nice to not spend all on GPU you know
Oh and, 12nn is marketing. It's really 14nm refined
I'm definitely excited to see what AMD has got for us
The mention of ray tracing seems like a very interesting thing, and I'd love to see how it'll be like
🔮
Hm
atleast the cooler looks better this time around
Guess so, yeah
no more blower
Mhm
I'd love a fan version of the reference 5700XT though
I really liked that design tbh
Yeah that's pretty boring
I don't see it, but sure 
Just a liiiittle teeny difference in design
Lemme try to get the same perspective on an NVIDIA
Kind of similar when you look at it
Really almost no difference
Which iiiis pretty lame

Damn, the fans don't work
Heard it was 2,000$ USD
Yeah, for the Kinguin 2080 Ti.
That was either a different currency or he really did pay 2K USD for it
Kinguin, probably that I guess
Actually, the Kinguin 2080Ti was 1800.
inb4 cad
kinguin is literally only one that really stands out
but almost 2k hehe
The prices of the 2080 Ti definitely did kind of drop after a while perhaps
That sounds like it was a pretty great version of a 2080 Ti at least
Shame it's so expensive though
The kinguin is expensive because it's all custom.
yes, 2265mhz with non-exotic cooling is pretty poggers
Akin it to buying a custom car compared to stock, in percentual price difference.
Some might say it was actually a good reason to the fucking high prices of the 2080 Ti cards
But like
Sure, it's kind of a huge step in technology, but also it's kind of meh
And no one is really going to buy a 2080 Ti except 4K gamers, people who are pretty dum dum, and animation doohickey whatever
If people buy it at that price, they'll keep selling it at it.
Yeah
Ampere is gonna make RTX on turing a joke
if they bring new dlss to monster hunter i will be extremely happy man
But you'll still be Unlucky
Here's my planned build so far. Not sure what to do for a CPU Cooler (kinda thinking water cooling), or for case.
Taking recommendations for swapping anything out.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yC2Pq3
One M.2? o:
If it was a year I got I would say look at Enermax's Liqtech for TR... but then it was found it has some kind of weird build up issue and it ends up dying after a year
it's a 2 TB and fastest M.2 available. I have space for more M.2's but would rather have total combined space. I have a NAS with 40+ TB if needed
Ah, yeah you do
Any good um 360mm AIO will do I'd say
What about the Gigabyte Aorus one? I probably heard they were good
The new Kraken's are really good from what I've seen
X73?
Yeah
Funny how there is like 3x the amount of supported AIO's compared to air coolers for tr4
Because air cooling is a joke at more powerful chips
It's not joke at all
Air Coolers are better than you think 
Ofc its not going to hold up as well when you are doing benchmarking and OC
Well yeah
but yeah
Air coolers don't take up the whole room
yeah get a DH-15 or whatever it’s called
But yeah for Air coolers they have to make a specialized elongated coldplate model to fit the IHS
Also, buying a 2080S would be a bad idea considering new graphics cards in like 6 months
Where as AIOs there's an adapter for it
NH-U14S is the one only noctua cooler for that socket
Oh no new graphics cards are in probably 3 months
All the more reason though
There's three noctua coolers
There's also a Dark Rock Pro TR4, dunno how that is though
ah okay, amd has not updated their site then
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6rhKHx/cooler-master-wraith-ripper-764-cfm-cpu-cooler-mam-d7pn-dwrps-t1 this one thingy I guess, big chonk ass
Wraith ripper is looks over perfomance
True sadly
that thing does not perform as well as it looks
It's fucking humongous though
I got the perfect cooler for it
kitguru had very good review about it
compared it to that noctua cooler, bequiet! and AIO
Yea i vote for NH-U14S
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6rhKHx/cooler-master-wraith-ripper-764-cfm-cpu-cooler-mam-d7pn-dwrps-t1 this one thingy I guess, big chonk ass
@fleet canopy things looks cool, ngl tempted
thats all around amazing for it
Engineered in Austin, Texas
oh shit, that's where i live.
whoops, doxxing myself

hmm. ugly but tempting
Tested it with 3990X PBO on with no limiters, 95C with all coolers but icegiant allowed it to draw 125W more power than corsair 360mm AIO lol
so there's none available until september it sounds like?
That's what their site says. Might take even longer though.
I mean, you’d be waiting untill then for the new gpu’s anyway
Or any of the newer CPUs, if they release ofc
ugh I want it now.. but I really should wait to save up, i mean that's probably when i'll have the cash anyways
you’re only gunna use the GPU for gaming, right?
Better off waiting anyways
probably for transcoding videos too
Videos, gaming, hm
usually that’s CPU bound, I think?
nah you can do HW GPU transcoding
GPU has the NVEC coder doesn't it?
but i guess it wouldn't matter with 32 core threadripper lol
Or only streaming, hm
well that cpu cooler has been reserved. lol
Kek
There’s still no use case for a Radeon VII Pro
because that comes out around the same time
I was pretty sure you weren't doing cad work on the side, just wanted to make sure though
I'm pretty sure by then, D0c already has had that set a long while ago
Now a case... any recommendations?
Depends what you like
^ just look at cases
Probably a white case, I have a black one now. Something you can see into, want to see the beauty inside
I mean, just go to like Newegg and look at cases under “white”
ewww newegg
There's a Lian Li O11 Dynamic, great for watercooling, there's a Crystal 680X
^
i refuse to use newegg, ever again.
lmao
Bastards were 2 weeks late on an case order I made
I would rather pay way more than have to use newegg
There's also the O11 Dynamic XL if you want to see that
Big bigger so you get a fair more space
I haven't had any problems with Newegg personally, its where I got my case gpu cpu and what not
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3Pn8TW/lian-li-o11d-xl-w-atx-full-tower-case-o11d-xl-w O11 Dynamic XL
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qVMwrH/corsair-crystal-series-680x-rgb-atx-mid-tower-case-cc-9011169-ww Crystal 680X
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VxRzK8/lian-li-pc-o11dw-atx-full-tower-case-pc-o11dw O11 Dynamic
Get the XL
Does the O11 support EATX? amazon says no..
Uh would that cooler fit in that case?
The XL does I believe
Meshify S2
O11D XL
You seem like you like ROG, They came up with white/silver Helios case wich ofc has its ROG tax
Enthoo 719, beast case but pretty sure there is no white version
And O11D XL fits e-atx
Best for watercooling if you're going to be going that direction if you don't really wanna do air cooling, but the XL might fit big air coolers
It does fit bigger air coolers
Apparently the XL isn't EATX?
The regular one has 155mm clearance
I was pretty sure it did
XL fits E-ATX easily
There's no mention of it
Well if the p120 crystal can do it the XL should be able to do it too 
Other than just the nice stuff, there's an obvious "Aree Oh Gee!" 'certified' sticker shit on it
Oh yeah it has an extension panel
The XL is pretty much a "No worry for anything" kinda case ish
And its ROG certified 
This shows though without the extension board it supports EATX
of course it supports it but the board will just hang off from the side of it
Well its cause E-ATX is an inconsistent standard
Don't size shame E-ATX
I'm shaming how inconsistent the dimensions are 
Define 7 XL would be good option too but its just a big black box
zero worries about stuff fitting in tho
E-ATX Senpai is fine
hot swappable drive bays
using SSD's
kek
It has room for even double cpu server boards
i used to own a dual xeon system i used as a desktop machine like 10+ years ago
You mean flushing around $250 down the drain?
Just bolt everything to the motherboard box 
funny thing is, this machine is going to have more CPU cores and RAM than my actual server
lmao
well only starting with 128 GB ram so not just yet.. server has 192 gb
but i plan to double the ram in this build later if needed, hence 4 sticks instead of 8
never closing chrome, ever
It's kind of a shame that Chrome is such a really flexible browser, but has some shit for having private data
Linus did that video where he used an Epyc set up with 2tb of RAM and seeing how many tabs could he have open
The system got way too slow by the time it was utilizing 40gb
If I recall correctly
lel
Is Aorus Master the higher end of motherboards?
I hope that the new RTX Line gets here soon... I'd like to play the remastered crisis at at least 30FPS..
Uh I'm 100% certain that Ampere will be faster than that
Ampere RTX is said to be 4x faster than Turing RTX
That joke went right over your head. Lol
Is Aorus Master too much for what I need though?
Yeah it did cause everyone knows the joke is 24fps for true cinematics 
Probably, I mean it won't give you better game performance after all
I think Turing's RTX will show its age in the next couple years
Yeah
Well into the new consoles
Maybe not with DLSS 2.0
Well that's the thing
Right now that's supported in specific games, typically the ones that support RTX though I suppose
So am I able to wipe thermal paste off with a water dampened paper towel or will that damage it?
But there's gonna be a DLSS 3 and there's no guarantee Turing will support that
Won't damage it
If its overly saturated you're risking damaging the motherboard
If you can grab rubbing alcohol, just grab that
99%?
99% what?
Alcohol
99% isopropyl alcohol or a lower percentage?
That doesn't matter, higher the better though
Just 99%
70% is fine
70% works fine
Do I dry it off afterwards or just let it sit out to dry?
It dries pretty fast
Alcohol evaporates very quickly
Will pressing too hard onto the IHS damage it?
I'm my experience while you are trying to put the other paste on the alcohols has already dried
No
how do i know if my pc is temperature throttling
Drop in performance like FPS
my computer has had a problem where my games drop to 10fp every 15 seconds
All games?
rowanmc: clock speeds will drop for nominal
yes
*from
Yeah that might be throttling
Do you have a pre built pc?
i thought it was just intensive games, but then i noticed it happen on osrs too
acer nitro 5
So yes?
If its happening in OSRS everything must be running hot
yes
another thing that raised an eyebrow was the temperature on nitrosense
85-94 c
hot
while my gpu was at a cool 67
I seen a few videos of Pre-Builts still having that "Please remove this sticker" on the bottom of the CPU Cooler
Most throttling tends to happen after 95C
That's a really hot one
So this is a laptop right
yeah
Oh
i can give you the exact model
Yeah they're never thermally reliable after some time
could be dust build up, or thermal paste turned into cement
nitro AN515-43
You could open it up, dust it out and maybe replace the thermal paste
does it matter what thermal paste i buy?
Hopefully it doesn't have a dead fan
Very much so
Uh more or less, anything would be an improvement actually
Most would recommend Grizzly Thermal, no?
the fan still works, when i turn the speed up the fps drops become less and less frequent
yeah if it is bad paste, ANY paste is probably better
but i am a complete pc noob
I would say get Artic Mx-4
so it took me a while to come to this conclusion
Lasts pretty long
get non-conductive thermal paste, which is almost all thermal pastes
I've always heard thermal grizzly needs to be reapplied annually
Quick
would it be worth investing in a cooling pad
Its not a bad idea, it works well and last probably forever
i just want to extend the life of this laptop
It won't make too much of a difference honestly
Mx-4 easily will do well for like 4 or 5 years probably
Whenever you reapply Thermal Paste do you need to also remove the old paste?
Yes of course
Damn... Thought my lazy ass could get around it xD
can i just use a tissue to do it?
they sell clean pads but you can use a microfiber cloth
I used toilet paper. Lol
The tried and true DIY method is rubbing alcohol and coffee filters
if i use toilet paper whats the worst that could happen
Coffee filters doesn't leave behind fibers
Depends on the brand
you get tp fibers all over
^
Toiler paper is designed to fall apart when submerged in water
Ehh it worked well for me, but if I could I'd use a microfiber cloth
so i soak the toilet paper and ring it out over the cpu, then wipe
No don't do that 
What? No
im joking hahah
Lmao
Just let it soak in a full tub, water cooling does wonders 
I heard about that
When you are stressing a computer out sending it on a spa day does it some good.
spa day pc
A nice mineral bath
nothing like it after a hard day of thermal meltdown
thermal grizzly says "high long-term stability" so to me that means at least 10 years
for what i expect
for "long-term"
how long it actually lasts, idk
Should I not install the 6 other fans yet or do cable management ahead of time before I get the new board?
10700k on Amazon for $500, amazing price gouging.
10900k is $1100.
I'd say put Case Fans in first imo
Next up Bio-Engineered cat girls.
Mm, oh yeah
hmmmm.... plz yes
both
Kitsunes and headpats
Every day. We stray further from god.
no.
we dont.
this is exactly what was intended from the start
he did not have enough power to make cat and fox girls
which is why he gave Elon the power
If Elon creates Animal Girls...... then hell yeah
If Elon makes cat girls a real thing I will buy every tesla model and buy stocks from him
3D printed cooling tower for a CPU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSE17ArRm4w
Should I use just paper towel with the rubbing alcohol to clean thermal paste or should I use a microfiber cloth with it?
Microfiber is best, paper towel isn't too bad ish
Do I just pour enough onto the cloth to dampen it and then wipe?
Just a bit, yeah
Should I only wipe across the paste and not in circles?
Just wipe it however
Have you ever wanted a quad core CPU from Intel that didn't cost so much goddamn money?
Ok bye
What chipset does that even run on?
Xeons suck 😦
That's the socket, but not the chipset
owo
Muppy and them gave me this video when I first did what you are doing and it helped so much
I did?
I mean, if I did
That's neat
Techquickie is so useful sometimes tbh
From seeing the video, I wonder if CPU have increased or decreased in sizes
Wish CPU Coolers were that easy to take on and off
Mm, some are
But not the Dank Rock Pro 4
You gotta be dank, have dank rock-strong fingers, and have at least 4 fingers to even manage to take it off/on
When I need to take this damn thing off I am gonna need to rezip tie the middle fan...
Do all coolers follow the same process of needing to install a bracket onto the back of the motherboard?
The first CPU I had did not need the backplate or brackets. lol The Backplate was just kinda hanging there.
I am wondering if I should just use an air cooler instead.
There are a lot of cases where it just uses whatever backplate is there, and you just have mounting hardware around the CPU
But you already have that cooler, why the change of mind?
Unsure.
I don't really have that many dreams.
Neither do I.
I'm just scared my next motherboard will be a defective one too.
The odds of getting two defective motherboards in a row is extremely slim
Should I work on cable management stuff now or wait until I have parts again?
Do it if you want to
Is cable management hard?
Not if you try
Its just organizing and routing cables to the best possible locations
Wondering if I should just go buy some Cablemod cables.
Wouldn't hurt
Better to have them and not need them then need them and not have them.
They'll probably be better than the Corsair ones I got.
There aren't enough cable combs on them.
If you don't like the Corsair's cables, then go for cable mod if you want
About to clean thermal paste off, do I dump some of the rubbing alcohol on the cloth or pour a thin layer of it onto like a paper plate and then dip one side of the cloth on it?
Yes.
Should I take the processor out of the motherboard before wiping the paste off or leave it in?
Watch the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2p6Hk4IfqI
Everything you need is in the video
Gross a Intel User
It can be cleaned off, but I wouldn’t really mind it too much anyways
i just hope its not the cpu or ram thats bad
you get the same model motherboard again?
I'm switching to Aorus Pro most likely.
So you haven’t ordered it yet?
Will be ordering it soon.
you tried all the ram sticks in the working slot to tell they are good, right?
Yes.
👍
I put the RAM in my prebuilt and it works perfectly.
what is the prebuilt?
The specs?
yeah
that image made my eyes water.
Something that PC needs.
It definitely looks parched.
Did somebody not realize their fans stopped working after about a year? 😆
hmm
Defective Asus board boxed up and ready to be RMAed.
That pc looks like its been sitting in a dirty warehouse running nonstop for about 3 years
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neGW1TBgcUw 20 minutes and 20 seconds 😳
Amazing for a 65 year old man who's worked in Aerospace engineering, and apparently never even touched something like a 3990X
It's so goddamn expensive though
Only thing you have to worry about is your wife who probably get very disappointed, and your wallet going empty
For about 1400$ less, the 3970X exists
haha, Wife-rage is not desirable !
I mean I have my 3950x so I'm happy,
Thinking about getting a 3990x as our new build-server for GTFO
Ah
For a tech channel, Gamers Nexus surely does take a look into the Cyberpunk 2077 delay 
Good morning
mornin
Hey Ludvig. I haven't seen you in a while. How are things going?
restless finding the golden CPU
I wonder what happened to Shawn, the Questioneer
he's coming with the batch of questions 😋
Haha
Lol
"Ok I put the thermal paste in the socket before the CPU, but it's not working. Plz help!!!11!!"
"And I used mayonnaise"
Isn't mayonnaise an instrument?
I'm alright Gal,
planning our new buildserver
And don't be to hard on someone who's asking questions 😂
That's cool, Ludvig.
Also
$49 for a 2080Ti
Buy
I'll take 50 please
Lmao
seems legit
Definitely legit
i applied the thermal paste
holy shit my temperature dropped so much
i was at 60c idle
now im at 35
this is epic
nice gains
Neato
previously at 90c when gaming
now at 63
this is fantastic, i can finally play games without massive fps drops every 10 seconds
when was the last time it was changed?
maybe it's also the combo of cleaning out dust/hair?
sounds like a really dramatic change
Depends I guess, you can check out the specs they got
If a B550 is like 170$ or more, just go for a X570
Although I dislike Newegg, but the prices aren't gouged to hell
My luck with PCs are shit :(
.
Why? Is it because D0c said no?
Nope, as much as I wish it was. It just never worked with the last computers now :(
new Ampere numbers seem neato
why there so hard?☹️ i bad know English,hmm,this Discord server have "comutity chat"?for players,talk in game-e.g. "who go to boss :Beast king"
makha: maybe look #gtfo-chat or #gtfo-related-questions
do we have any info on when DDR5 mobo's will launch?
When DDR5 becomes mainstream
all I heard was early 2021
Well possibly
I just know that we're going to have to deal with DDR5 still needing to be worked on more
@lilac geyser thank
So until it's a great option, and it's much more mainstream/available, I don't think we'll ever need to care about it
it'll be twice as fast as DDR-4 but the average person doesn't notice that
Not unless you're going to need DDR5
And I don't think I'd say it'll be unnoticeable
I'd say we'll see great improvements with Ryzen based system, perhaps
by the average person I do not mean gamers
Ah, true
I mean the casual office desk users
The non gamers and non PC workstation users
But it'll be mainstream, just like DDR4
lol dang
Eh, I would not upgrade straightaway imo
DDR5 won't hit consumers first. So if you really want the very first motherboards with it, you'll overpay for a product not meant for you.
At least for AMD, they hinted for 2022 as their aim
but it's not an announcement, just an internal roadmap reveal. (better than a leak, not an announcement)
And still, it's not worth getting DDR5 the second it releases
It's gonna have to go through more time to get it right
Unless willing to potentially troubleshoot often and pay a premium
Indeed
Just not recommended for someone who wants to just put it in and expect no problems
And also, the memory will definitely be faster, but we're not gonna have that straight away
I'd expect half a year or another year for it to be working alright
I'm just heavily doubting whether to go for AMD or intel
using a 970 atm so should upgrade that too
going for a budget system now and splurging a few years later when DDR5 hits without too much anticipation could be nice too.
Would be a massive improvement if you only have 4 cores 4 threads for example
Yeah, it's easy to get a pretty great budget build
Nah I don't want a budget PC
I want to buy something now that'll last me for at least 5 years
I've had this thing since 2012
i7 2600k is pulling its weight
Get a budget PC
Everything that's going into the budget build is going to be miles better than your 8 year old PC
probably not
Oh it definitely will
i5's aren't that much better even for newer generations
We got a CPU that's only 100$ and beats a 7700K
I'd get the 10700K
We get that, sure
But if you just do a budget build, and then buy when all the good parts release, you still got a lot to spend
And it's really going to be significantly better than your PC
Not significant, no
But miles better
Just
It's gotten so much better in the budget side of PCs
Back when the 7700K was the king, it was 300-400$
Now you got the 3300X, it's literally a 7700K but 85-100$
Even I'm surprised of it, being an owner of a 7700K
You'd end up waiting 2-4 years until something stable and groundbreaking pops up that's not a ripoff. (for DDR5)
Honestly spending less than half of your current budget seems worthwhile. Maybe lay out a foundation for the monster you're aiming for once it arrives.
e. x. serious PSU, Case, Cooler along with a budget motherboard, CPU and RAM
