#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk

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vapid crypt
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Look at the Aorus Elite, basically on par with the Aorus Extreme

fleet canopy
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Oh

vapid crypt
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Its basically just a matter of having less features, and only supporting Gen 4 PCIE through the CPU

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In a way its cut down X570

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But yeah its looking like you need to spend at least $150 for a decent B550 board, and any more than $180 just look at X570

spice tapir
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all amd stuff comes down in price eventually

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unlike intel

torn ferry
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@vapid crypt so I should get the Aorus Pro Wifi?

spice tapir
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do you need wifi?

vapid crypt
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What are we talking about

abstract kite
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(and if it's a maybe, you can just get a dongle later)

torn ferry
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New motherboard to replace defective Asus.

vapid crypt
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Well you're getting a refund right?

spice tapir
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Pro wifi is cheaper and better vrms

torn ferry
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Yea.

abstract kite
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Motherboards are an easy way to sink lots of money in without any gain, make sure you understand why you're paying more if you are going to go fancy

spice tapir
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nothing beats aorus z390 vrms

torn ferry
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I asked for refund instead of getting a replacement board.

vapid crypt
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Yeah I've heard the Aorus

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Z390s are really good

spice tapir
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z490 not so much anymore but z390 Aorus is the way to go

abstract kite
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this list is a bit out of date (late 2018) but it was a solid tier list for VRM quality in motherboards, if that's what you care about the most

vapid crypt
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I know the B550 Aorus boards are really good though

spice tapir
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Asus Tuff series is such a scam

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honestly alot of their stuff is scam worthy

fleet canopy
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At least I can attempt to smash it and it'll still be working 100% because it's TUF 😎

vapid crypt
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The quality tends to vary, but yeah they're pretty shitty when it comes to leaving out typical features you would see on similarly priced boards

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Like being able to fully tune memory and stuff like that

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"nah bud that's for our ROG boards only."

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Arbitrary segmentation

spice tapir
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"you have to pay an extra 100-200 for ROG premium"

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such bullshit

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Republic of Gays

fleet canopy
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ROG is like, so fucking good

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Like

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It's so expensive it's gotta be the best, right?

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Right?

spice tapir
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ssssuuuuuurrreeee

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its got the word "Gamers" so its bound to have an extra 200% boost in frames

fleet canopy
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Oh totally

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I'm getting 30FPS on my ROG 2080 Ti, ROG motherboard, ROG case, ROG everything in 240p 😎

vapid crypt
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Everyone knows if it has the word Gamer, and has RGB you instantly gain 100 FPS

spice tapir
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do any of yall remember how the ROG 5700xt was dysfunctional cuz they couldnt put on a cooler correctly

fleet canopy
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Republic of Gaymers is such an amazing brand

vapid crypt
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Yes they didn't put the proper mounting pressure on it

spice tapir
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and then took months until they finally addressed that it was "their fault"

vapid crypt
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And blamed AMD for allegedly telling them the wrong mounting pressure

spice tapir
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fuck those guys

vapid crypt
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No shit a big fuck off heat sink and 3 fans is gonna need a bit more tightening of the screws compared to the reference design phaWesker

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Its basically just Asus being lazy and not giving a fuck about quality control with AMD cards

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Just slap the same ROG cooler on it and that's it PirateSimon

spice tapir
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poor amd cards lmao

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they get either rehashed nvidia coolers or not so cool lookin ones

fleet canopy
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Worse was the drivers

spice tapir
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Radeon VII flashbacks

vapid crypt
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Well it depends on the partner, cause you know Sapphire actually gives a damn

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Its a shame they didn't have board partners make custom coolers for the Radeon VII

fleet canopy
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Kind of hope the "6900XT" might be a very good GPU, I want AMD to at least do something good

vapid crypt
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Radeon VII Toxic edition would have been epic

fleet canopy
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And make NVIDIA do much more honestly

vapid crypt
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Oh this will be a good generation

fleet canopy
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Like, RTX is getting good

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Yeah

spice tapir
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DLSS 2.0 is so much better

fleet canopy
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the AMD card is supposedly getting RT cores

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So that'll be pretty interesting to see

vapid crypt
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I saw some speculation that they might be 3D stacking on the die for Navi

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Putting NAND flash right on it

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Would make sense with what we've been hearing about the PS5 and its use of SSDs

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We haven't seen a shot of the die on the PS5 yet so its just an idea

spice tapir
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pS5 iS sO fAsT wE gEt a FaStEr SsD bEtTeR tHaN PC

vapid crypt
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Well its not that its faster, its just its being used a certain way

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I fell asleep during the explanation so I don't exactly understand it phaWesker

torn ferry
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What is the tiny fan for that came with the motherboard?

vapid crypt
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That's a VRM fan

torn ferry
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Is it beneficial to have or does it not do much?

river thistle
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We all know you get 0Fps if you don't have an RGB Gaming Chair

vapid crypt
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Its only beneficial if you had a 9900K and were overclocking it

fleet canopy
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Fans on the mobo will cool the VRMs, cool the chip on the mobo as well

river thistle
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Also what brand of pcie extention cables do you guys recommend?

torn ferry
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Is it a bad idea to keep the thermal paste on the AIO and processor when I put it into the new motherboard?

vapid crypt
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Yeah you don't want to reuse it after uninstalling

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Make sure its fresh every time

torn ferry
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So I need to wipe it off?

spice tapir
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Gotta buy a 100 pack of Arctic MX-4 so I never run out

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lmao

vapid crypt
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Yes of course

fleet canopy
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Or just buy a jar of it really

crisp sage
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forgot how to update the bios.. so I put the .cap file in there and boot to bios? don't need to format the USB or anything

lilac geyser
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at least you got to see if you used enough or too much paste shawn

fleet canopy
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Don't think the price is going to be different

spice tapir
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Just watch a Pauls hardware video on updating a bios

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its like 10 minutes

fleet canopy
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Paul's Hardware is epic beginner youtube channel

torn ferry
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@lilac geyser cooler came with pre-applied paste.

lilac geyser
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ah

spice tapir
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Pauls hardware is great

lilac geyser
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i wouldnt reuse the paste

fleet canopy
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If it has been used at least once, I'd just repaste

spice tapir
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Pauls Hardware and Bitwit

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those two are the fun ones

fleet canopy
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Otherwise, if you just put it on there, then you can either keep it or repaste really

torn ferry
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Do I use water dampened paper towel to clean it off?

lilac geyser
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if you dont have rubbing alcohol i guess water will be better than nothing

torn ferry
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Does it dry quickly after wiping it off?

fleet canopy
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Rubbing alcohol will dry off yeah

torn ferry
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What is the recommended method of storing the processor and AIO pump until I can put it in the new motherboard?

lilac geyser
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you need to journey to tibet for himalayan wool, only its soft fibers are appropriate for an AIO

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or you could just put in in a box

restive garnet
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Anywhere that its not going to be damaged

torn ferry
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Can I put a bag around the pump itself?

spice tapir
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Only the finest wool from the Himalayas

restive garnet
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Shelf/box/drawers are good

spice tapir
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literally any surface is fine lol

restive garnet
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You could if you want

torn ferry
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Should I do cable management work that I can that doesn't require the motherboard or no?

spice tapir
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route the cpu power cable

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that one always sucks if you dont do that first

torn ferry
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How do I fix the sag in the 24 pin cable?

lilac geyser
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what does that mean

jade ermine
torn ferry
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People said in the few photos I showed of the system turned on, the 24 pin cable was more curved downward as opposed to straight.

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river thistle
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oooooh pretty

abstract kite
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Hey people

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Looking for a good Laptop to take to work with me for gaming and such.

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Does anyone have any suggestions?

kindred nova
fleet canopy
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Check out on the Zen 2 laptops

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They've proven to be a real gamer

river thistle
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I wouldn't use the 1650 if he's looking for gaming as well...

fleet canopy
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The 1650 is a pretty good card though, not too bad imo, and for a price like that, it's actually pretty killer imo

knotty vault
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Can anyone give me anymore suggestions for my pc

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My red cpu light came on after plugging my computer in elsewhere now the computer won’t run properly, I’ve already pressed the reset and power button for 10 seconds then the computer won’t turn back on

bright shard
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did you try moving it back to where it worked?

knotty vault
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I’ve disconnected the power and held the power button down for a minute

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Yes

fleet canopy
knotty vault
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I’m looking for any more suggestions I haven’t done already

river thistle
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I have an rx 570 which is a little better than the 1650 and it sucks. I would never buy a gaming laptop with a 1650

fleet canopy
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Their other laptops listed on the same page, it's not bad either, I think the RTX 2060 might be a fair go at, it's got some nice general specs

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3200Mhz

abstract kite
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This is a TUF Decision...

river thistle
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a 2060 for a laptop is actuall really good

fleet canopy
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Haha

abstract kite
fleet canopy
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Fucking dumb way they called it TUF, but heh

river thistle
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You couild prolly but an actual pc together using a mini itx or whatever motherboard to bring to and from to work though

fleet canopy
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Hm, I guess that's not bad. It's a pretty good spec, but 500GB storage

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Then again, it's not really a main gamer thing

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I'd still check out on the AMD side, but yeah it's not bad

abstract kite
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No?

river thistle
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If he's using it for work I'd definitely go with AMD

abstract kite
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Well not for work

fleet canopy
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It doesn't really matter that much in gaming performance imo

abstract kite
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More like doing shit all on it while I sit there being bored

river thistle
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Oh

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From what I've seen AMD CPUS give like 15 ish less frames, and more unstable framerate but either way

fleet canopy
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People still get Ryzen 3600 cause it's that good

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Really, it doesn't matter that much

river thistle
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The one I'd want from amd is way more expensive and not as good as the intel one...

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I suppose

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For my first build I'm just gonna go with intell though cuz it's cheaper

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intel*

abstract kite
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I have the Ryzen 3700X is it not that great?

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Well for my main PC

fleet canopy
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It's a great CPU yeah

river thistle
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3700k is just fine

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x*

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sorry

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3700x definitly isn't AMDs best cpu but it's still really good

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For some reason on new egg I found that the 10900k is cheaper than the 10700k

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Wtf

fleet canopy
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lol

river thistle
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I my first build thing the other day, so does someone wanna take a look at it to see if there's any compatibility issues or whatever? I appreciate it a lot thanks. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LBpPq3

bright shard
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why that thermal compound
?

river thistle
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Idk anything about thermal compound and I like and trust corsair too so...

bright shard
river thistle
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I also forgot to put a pcie extension cable on there

bright shard
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your specific paste is 5.0 W/mK

river thistle
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???

bright shard
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measure of thermal conductivity

river thistle
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Oh

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I'm assuming thats kind of low then

bright shard
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lower than the 'ol standby arctic silver 5

river thistle
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That grizzly one has a 75 one

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Geez

fleet canopy
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So it's aimed for Corsair fanboys

river thistle
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Yeah pretty much lol

fleet canopy
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No GPU

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Epic 10900K gaming

summer trout
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WD Green SSDs are rather bad to use as your primary drive

river thistle
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I'm waiting for the 300s series

fleet canopy
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I'd just avoid WD Green altogether after the whole Western Digital scam kinda thing

river thistle
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I already have the ssd and was planning to use it as the windows boot or whatever

fleet canopy
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O

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No cache

river thistle
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I'm willing to get something else though if you think it's better

summer trout
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Honestly you should try returning or selling the WD Green

fleet canopy
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Uhhh

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That looks like the liquid metal one

bright shard
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i probably wouldent tbh

river thistle
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"73 W/mk"

fleet canopy
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mm, Crucial P1 and then Crucial P2

river thistle
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?

fleet canopy
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I just noticed there was a P2 version, that's all

river thistle
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So get a crucial M.2 or whatever?

fleet canopy
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Uh, I'm looking for a pretty good one

river thistle
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Okay

bright shard
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if you're doing your first build, i probably wouldnt use liquid metal pastes

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less to go wrong

river thistle
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It said it was 73 whatever that's why

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I'll look for a carbon one

fleet canopy
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5 gram of thermal paste for a goddamn 25$ price tag, wtf

river thistle
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How much thermal paste do I need for one pc?

bright shard
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the conductonaut is 15/gram. bananas.

fleet canopy
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Pea sized

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Conductonaut is epic

river thistle
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So like 2 grams?

lilac geyser
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i did 2 CPUs and 2 gfx cards with 1g, and theres still some more left

fleet canopy
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So, 5.5 grams of Kryonaut for 27$ or 1 gram for 8$, hm

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Well then

river thistle
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I'll take the one gram lol

fleet canopy
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What GPU are you planning to get?

lilac geyser
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(not a threadripper cpu)

fleet canopy
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Like a 3070? or a 3060?

lilac geyser
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i think i needed to clarify

summer trout
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if it's just for your cpu and gpu you should be good

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lmao cooling a threadripper

river thistle
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either a 3080 variant or a 3090 variant

fleet canopy
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lmao threadripper

river thistle
fleet canopy
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300$ for a 2560x1440p 144hz 1ms IPS monitor, god damn

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Now I never thought it'd be that low

river thistle
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Lol

fleet canopy
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I usually see em 400$ and up

river thistle
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And it's got built in speakers

fleet canopy
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Ah, wild

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Sounds useless for me since I have headphones kek

river thistle
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I do to but it's great for youtube lol

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Plus my ears hurt sometimes and it makes my head aches better when I tek em off so

fleet canopy
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Mm, I see

river thistle
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All I need is thermal paste if everything is good then

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Plus idk if that PCI-E extender is any good

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I wanna but my GPU vertical

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put*

fleet canopy
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How much is the RAM priced?

river thistle
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92.99

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USD

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Oh, that and an M.2 or whatever if that's what you guys reccomend

fleet canopy
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Uh huh, 2300$ USD

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Not including peripherals

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Oh

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300$ case

river thistle
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it's a 250 dollar case off the corsair website

fleet canopy
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I wish people never had to pay more than 200$ for PC cases

river thistle
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Ikr

fleet canopy
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250$ makes it more fair ish

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For gaming, a 10900K seems uhh

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500$ for a gaming CPU

river thistle
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I got $890.21 without a new m.2 thing, that specific PCI-E extender and no monitor, keyboard or headphnes

fleet canopy
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So I head into the CPU section, looking for CPUs, and I'm like "Whoa, is Intel dominating PCPP now?" until I realized it's filtered by a Z490 board

river thistle
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Scratch that 1420.2

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Is $1420.2 without peripherals a new m.2 and that pcei thing

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Idk what PPCP is...

fleet canopy
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PCPP = PC Part Picker

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kek

river thistle
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Oh

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Lol

fleet canopy
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imo I'd get a 10600K, it doesn't really seem that necessary to get a 10900K seeing just how good the CPUs are like Ryzen 3600, Intel 10600K

river thistle
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the 10900k was cheaper for some reason on newegg so I chose that over the 10700k

fleet canopy
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Oh?

river thistle
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I have no freaking clue why lmao

fleet canopy
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Mm, strange tbh

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But alright haha

river thistle
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cheaper by like 10 bucks

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It's weird

fleet canopy
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Newegg is just

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It's just goddamn weird sometimes

river thistle
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Ikr

fleet canopy
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And I notice it's heading to a mainly white themed build

river thistle
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Yes

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I saw a white build and I'm like, "OMG THAT LOOKS SO CLEAN"

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"I'm doing that now"

fleet canopy
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Yeah same

river thistle
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Lmao

fleet canopy
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Except I still think I wanna stick to black

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I just love the dark colors

river thistle
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Ah

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I understand that lol. An all black build looks really nice too

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If that PCI-E extension is good then I'll just look for like a 250gb crucial M.2 lol

fleet canopy
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GPU is placeholder for price

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I'm very much expecting the 3080 to still be 700$

river thistle
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Yeah

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Tottaly

torn ferry
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I can confirm it was the motherboard.

river thistle
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I hope the 3090 or 3090 ti or whatever is only lik 1010 instead of 1279

fleet canopy
torn ferry
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I put the RAM in my prebuilt, and it works fine.

fleet canopy
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The 3090 is the 3080 Ti

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There isn't going to be a Ti apparently

river thistle
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Also I'm not gonna get the psu because I already have the 750 watt one

fleet canopy
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Well, RMA the motherboard, and uhh

river thistle
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Oh

fleet canopy
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Find a neato one

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Oh I see

torn ferry
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My white peripherals look awesome though.

fleet canopy
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So that's just 1670$ with all of that

torn ferry
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K70 MK.2 SE, Roccat Kone Aimo Remastered White, and Asus ROG Delta White Edition.

river thistle
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I wish I could get a white K95 😦

torn ferry
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I wish they made one too.

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I feel the lighting is much brighter and more illuminated on white keyboards and peripherals.

river thistle
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Yeah

torn ferry
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My only issue with the K95 is that the wrist rest gets dirty easily.

fleet canopy
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Now, peripherals are important. If you don't already have the mice and keyboard, take time to research that cause there are so many different kinds of them, and it should have what you want plus a nice, comfortable feel to use it

river thistle
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I wand K95 from corsair lol

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It'll match my setup with iCUE

torn ferry
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I already love the Kone Aimo.

restive garnet
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for the most part, any PCIE 3 riser cable will do the same job as any other

river thistle
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Oh..

restive garnet
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just find one that you like the look of that fits your budget

river thistle
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Okay... I can't find a white one then lmao

fleet canopy
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And is also compatible

torn ferry
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Does vertical GPU mounting do anything beneficial unless you got RGB fans or elements on the GPU you want to be visible?

river thistle
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Not really

restive garnet
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it can

river thistle
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It just looks cool lmao

restive garnet
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for the most part is just aesthetic

river thistle
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It could lead to better temps

torn ferry
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How sturdy and durable is the riser cable?

restive garnet
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but a lot of cases will mount the card really close to the glass

fleet canopy
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Yeah ^

restive garnet
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so you end up with worse temps

bright shard
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its just flexing mostly, or if you have a fan on side

restive garnet
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but it can also give you an easier time doing liquid cooling runs

torn ferry
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I want SLI vertical mounting.

restive garnet
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mixed bag

river thistle
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A lot of cases you need to get a mod thing

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To mount vertical

fleet canopy
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@torn ferry Never do SLI

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Until SLI is actually usable in gaming

river thistle
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What's sli?

torn ferry
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I know, SLI is buggy and not really that much different.

bright shard
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sli aint really worth

torn ferry
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SLI is dual cards.

fleet canopy
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Basically use two GPUs

restive garnet
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nvidia dual card basically

river thistle
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Ooh

fleet canopy
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It's just too much money

river thistle
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Yeah

restive garnet
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in short

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sli in gaming

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for double the cost, best case you get double the FPS

fleet canopy
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Just never do it unless you need a good amount of GPU power for work reasons

torn ferry
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It's about as efficient as wielding two Perfect Pancake spatulas to make twice the pancakes.

restive garnet
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more likely, an extra 40% or less

bright shard
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if sli takes off in linux tho. phew.

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rip windows gaming

restive garnet
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plus you get all sorts of synchronization issues

river thistle
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SLI is mostly only beneficial in those select few games that support it, as well as those bench things.

torn ferry
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My only issue with the RGB pro so far is that any changes to color takes like a good few seconds for the system to update it.

fleet canopy
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Benchmark number one king 😎

restive garnet
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yeah, they generally make synthetic test scores go through the roof

torn ferry
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The RGB Pro RAM.

restive garnet
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but real world performance is shit all in most cases

fleet canopy
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Basically

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SLI is dead

restive garnet
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iirc there is exactly one game where you get a linear double performance

fleet canopy
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Possibly forever

torn ferry
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Cookie Clicker?

fleet canopy
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Because who the fuck wants to pay 1000$ for two 2070 Supers when you can get a 2080 Ti for a little more

restive garnet
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given the increases in performance from single cards over the last few years, and the inherent synchronization issues, i doubt we will see SLI for gaming again in the near future

river thistle
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People who only have 1k

fleet canopy
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Which also would be much more benefitable to get a 2080 Ti instead of two 2070 Supers for gaming just purely cause so many games don't have that support

river thistle
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Uuuugbh I can't find a white pcie extender :(((

restive garnet
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however, doing SLI titan RTX is fantastic for workstation uses

fleet canopy
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Yeah

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Imagine getting an RTX Titan for gaming 👀

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Oh no

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Lemme restate

restive garnet
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imagine getting a titan RTX full stop

river thistle
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Is a titan rtx better than a 2080ti for gaming?

fleet canopy
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Imagine getting 4 or 8 RTX Titans for gaming

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No

river thistle
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Oh

restive garnet
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yes and no

fleet canopy
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It's way more expensive for more VRAM

restive garnet
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some titles perform marginally better

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some perform marginally worse

fleet canopy
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Just performs the same

restive garnet
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but for a good chunk of extra cost

fleet canopy
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1 RTX Titan = 2x RTX 2080 Ti price

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Fucking 2500$ price

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It's just, wild

restive garnet
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yeah, for probably best case 110% of an 2080ti performance

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fuck that

fleet canopy
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Which is fucking stupid

river thistle
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Oof

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Just get 2 2080tis lmao

restive garnet
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get a single 2080ti, spend the leftovers building a high end rig

river thistle
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Is better

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Yes

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That

fleet canopy
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5000$ for a decent Quadro which probably actually performs worse than 2x RTX Titan

river thistle
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Lol

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Maybe better than 2060???

fleet canopy
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I mean in workstation use of course

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Not really sure about the workstation performance of the GPUs imo

river thistle
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Why thf is corsair showing me Euros instead of USD

fleet canopy
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Just know the gaming side really

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Corsair is weird

restive garnet
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better corsair than thermaltake

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they went from being one of my favorite companies to one of my least favorite companies in a very short period of time

river thistle
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30 dollars more for a corsair pcie instead of themaltake?

fleet canopy
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How?

river thistle
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Also thermal takes RGB standing desks are cool?

fleet canopy
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I'm sure Ulfsaar must mean something about parts

restive garnet
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basically

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summing it up

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thermaltake engineers spend more time making stuff look good at first glance than they do making something a viable product

fleet canopy
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Ah

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That's pretty stupid

restive garnet
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ill give you an example in a moment

fleet canopy
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Mmk

torn ferry
river thistle
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Now idk what to do for a PCI-E cable with out breaking my wallet lol

fleet canopy
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Thank you

restive garnet
fleet canopy
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Uhh

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Bottom of case?

restive garnet
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those little cut outs around the bottom of the case are for a fan filter

river thistle
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I wish I had the kind of money to spend 1300 dollars on a fucking desk...

restive garnet
#

what exactly is it filtering?

fleet canopy
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Why pay 1300$ on a desk when you can build one?

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And yeah what in the fuck

river thistle
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I don't know how to build one

fleet canopy
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Mm, well then

river thistle
#

Also for the RGB and electric height thing...

fleet canopy
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The IKEA desk will do you good

restive garnet
#

^^^

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IKEA desk best desk

fleet canopy
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Those prices for those desks?

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You could get those for like

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100$

restive garnet
#

literally

river thistle
#

No i can't

fleet canopy
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Yeah

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It's fucking dumb

restive garnet
#

do the IKEA youtube special

river thistle
#

I've looked 😦

vapid crypt
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You get a pretty big desk for that right?

restive garnet
#

a pair of drawers and a door

fleet canopy
#

Mm

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Lighty lights!

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Oooh! Cupholder!

abstract kite
#

Desk? Who needs a Desk?

fleet canopy
#

Ooh! The fucking cupholder again

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The Verge needs the desk

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"First, you'll need a desk"

abstract kite
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THANK YOU

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Omg muppy xD

river thistle
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Idc about cup holder lol

fleet canopy
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:)

restive garnet
#

why, so they can call the cupholder a set of tweezers?

torn ferry
#

First, you will need a table.

river thistle
fleet canopy
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Mm, passive air

restive garnet
#

gamers nexus themaltake core p3

torn ferry
#

$2000 budget, can't afford a better brand than PNY for the graphics card.

fleet canopy
#

Looks like GamersNexus built it

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Yes

vapid crypt
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Oh yeah the one time Thermaltake did a pretty good job on a case

restive garnet
#

it is, you can tell from the MSI frozr tower cooler

river thistle
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Lol

restive garnet
#

they are literally the only people i ever see using it lmao

fleet canopy
#

Yeah, but that's quite a uhh fancy way for dust

vapid crypt
#

Its not even that great of a cooler from what I've seen

fleet canopy
#

That's probably just user reviews though

vapid crypt
#

Like compared to other ones in its price points

restive garnet
#

it seems to be a decent representation of the average cooler tho

fleet canopy
#

Gamers Nexus must have it real good for them

vapid crypt
#

Sure

restive garnet
#

in terms of price points, i cant comment

river thistle
restive garnet
#

i hate MSI with a passion

fleet canopy
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Like so many people will buy the Hyper 212

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It looks nice

vapid crypt
#

Ugly, but... it works

fleet canopy
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Shitty front panel

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Nice side panel

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Honestly not too bad ish

river thistle
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I don;t like it

restive garnet
#

i bought the hyper 212 coz i wasnt sure what i wanted and it was 40 bucks NZ

vapid crypt
#

I have a Gammaxx 400

fleet canopy
restive garnet
#

i think that case is basically just a generic tempered glass case

river thistle
#

OOOOH

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PRETTY

restive garnet
#

but in typical thermaltake way, theyve fucked the performance

river thistle
#

Maybe I should change to that case....

abstract kite
fleet canopy
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Had Hyper 212, must have been the cheapest available cause that was what I had as a first

#

Lian Li O11 Dynamic @river thistle

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It's a great case

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3 places for AIOs, can fit 9 fans

restive garnet
#

i personally dont like the O11

river thistle
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I'll have to buy more fans though...

restive garnet
#

but i respect it

vapid crypt
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If you want a cheaper O11, there's the scuffed Antec P120 Crystal

fleet canopy
#

I guess there are good reasons kek

vapid crypt
restive garnet
#

its a fantastic case for its price point in terms of performance and customizability

fleet canopy
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I really like how the design is to be honest, though

restive garnet
#

but i hate the look of it

fleet canopy
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There is so much you can do with it

river thistle
#

No vertical mounting though 😦

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on the 011

torn ferry
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How do you get the bracket that goes on the back of the motherboard to stay while installing coolers?

river thistle
#

😢

fleet canopy
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There is

restive garnet
#

just get the cable mod vertical mount

fleet canopy
#

Yeah

vapid crypt
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Vertical mounting for a radiator?

fleet canopy
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For GPU

river thistle
#

Idk where to get one where I don't have to cut the case...

fleet canopy
#

Amazon

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Lemme get you the one I was going to get for it

vapid crypt
#

The O11 XL has vertical mounting

restive garnet
#

O11D doesnt tho

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afaik

vapid crypt
fleet canopy
#

XL

river thistle
#

Where?

restive garnet
#

either way, im dead set on my corsair 680x

river thistle
#

Plus that RGB prolly isn't iCUE or Aura sybnc :((

#

Hey I'm getting 680x! 😄

restive garnet
#

there are definitely aspects that the O11 XL does better, but i much prefer my 680

fleet canopy
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You're going to have to find it yourself maybe, but I'll def try to find the amazon link

#

The prices could have been better I gues

restive garnet
fleet canopy
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Was clueless on vertical GPU anyways so meh

restive garnet
#

thats a vertical GPU mount that fits over horizontal brackets

fleet canopy
#

Aaaand of course cablemod has one

restive garnet
#

just needs a riser cable

river thistle
#

What's a riser cable?

restive garnet
#

it connects your mobo to your gpu

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like an extension cable

river thistle
#

Idk what a mobo is

vapid crypt
#

Motherboard

restive garnet
#

short for motherboard

river thistle
#

Also wouldn't I have to cut the case?

restive garnet
#

MOther BOard

fleet canopy
river thistle
#

Oh

vapid crypt
#

It comes in white PirateSimon

river thistle
#

My dad has that for one of his pcs

fleet canopy
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Epic front panel unlike about 99% of the cases I see people build

river thistle
#

It's ugly

restive garnet
#

im not much of a fan of fractal design

river thistle
#

Besides the front pannel yeah

restive garnet
#

nothing against them, they just have nothing that appeals to me

river thistle
#

Yeah

fleet canopy
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Boring

restive garnet
#

in terms of price to performance, they do alright

vapid crypt
restive garnet
#

just boring

fleet canopy
#

Go buy a lamborghini then

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Hahaha

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Perfect timing there

restive garnet
#

and i hate those ones as well

#

like, can you imagine having that on your desk?

river thistle
#

I would want a vertical mod where I don't have to cut the pc, and don't have to deal with weird wireds cuz its inside

fleet canopy
#

Fucking horrifying

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But it goes VROOOM

restive garnet
#

great flexing piece, but id get sick of it real quickly

fleet canopy
#

Oh yeah

river thistle
#

That thing is FUGLY

vapid crypt
#

Sure... though I'd rather not with all the creepy crawlies around here

restive garnet
#

you wouldnt need to cut your case at all, provided you have enough clearance

#

that cable mod bracket fits in to the existing horizontal brackets

fleet canopy
#

Which is why I'm just going a nice case like the Meshify C

vapid crypt
#

But I guess the bright side is a vertical GPU wouldn't be hindered in performance in a case like that

restive garnet
#

and lets you mount your card vertically, albeit a few CM closer to the front of your case

fleet canopy
#

Dark, not too appealing, perfect for cooling needs and nice looks

restive garnet
#

imo, i like cooler master cases

river thistle
vapid crypt
#

Yeah the H500 is pretty good

restive garnet
#

decent blend of price to performance, while having some attractive options

fleet canopy
#

What white thing? PirateSimon

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The case?

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Yeah cut the case in half

vapid crypt
#

For sub 80 there's the NR600S I think its called?

river thistle
#

The white things in between the black things that screww off

vapid crypt
#

That ones pretty basic in design but its a good performer for the money

restive garnet
#

they all screw off

#

the white and black

#

its just a weird color scheme

fleet canopy
#

Yeah

river thistle
#

I don't see screws on the white ones. They are connected to the case

fleet canopy
#

A white/black scheme

#

Nah, all is removeable

river thistle
#

OOOH

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Nvm I'm fucking blind

#

Lol

restive garnet
#

lmao

river thistle
#

Okay

restive garnet
#

you were looking for white screws werent you XD

river thistle
#

Idk xd

#

No to find a cheap mod thing

#

now*

fleet canopy
river thistle
#

Goodbye corsair 😢

fleet canopy
#

A couple that look nice

vapid crypt
#

That Corsair front panel is awful though phaWesker

fleet canopy
#

kek

restive garnet
#

yeah, thats pretty hideous

#

ngl

fleet canopy
#

Blu

river thistle
restive garnet
#

again, thats where i like my 680X

fleet canopy
#

Not the 680X

#

The other one I posted

vapid crypt
#

Not that case the 275R

restive garnet
#

attactive tempered glass front panel, without significantly affecting airflow

vapid crypt
#

I think

fleet canopy
#

Yeah

#

275R

#

It's kinda poopoo

river thistle
restive garnet
#

plus the dust filters are well thought out

#

unlike you, antec cube

vapid crypt
#

Again that's not the same one phaWesker

#

There PirateSimon

river thistle
#

Oh

#

It's um...

#

Different...

#

xd

vapid crypt
#

I mean it probably does well...

restive garnet
#

personal rant time

#

i bought a case several years ago

#

antec cube EKWB edition

river thistle
#

Now I'm trying to decide between the O11 and 680x 😦

restive garnet
#

youd think, being an EKWB partnered case, itd be good for water cooling

#

but

river thistle
#

It's be more expensive to go with O11 but more rbg fans = pretty....

restive garnet
#

Not letting me send pictures for some reson

river thistle
#

🥺 👉 👈

restive garnet
#

The front panel for my old case is made up of plastic strips

#

Then its got a dust filter behind it

#

And then a large perforated sheet behind that

#

Follow it up with a radiator

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And airflow = 0

river thistle
#

Nooooo there's no white corsair triple radiator cpu cooler 😭

#

I couldn't pu it on top

restive garnet
#

They also dont make a 280mm aio with LL140 fans

#

Join the club

river thistle
#

😦

#

What's the difference between 140 and 120 fans?

restive garnet
#

20mm width and height

#

Technically radius i suppose

#

In practical terms

river thistle
#

Oh..

#

Would a double radiator and a fan on the top of the o11 look stupid?

restive garnet
#

If it has room for a triple, probably

river thistle
#

Damn

restive garnet
#

If my phone wanted to let me send pictures, id show you a 240mm rad in a 280mm bracket

#

It looks stupid

river thistle
#

Ah..

restive garnet
#

Now try that going froma 240mm to a 360mm

river thistle
#

;-;

#

OMG I COULD MAKE A N INFINITY MIRROR AND PUT IT ON THE O11

#

OMG YES

#

Maybe

#

If there's enough room between the fans and the front pannel

restive garnet
#

People have done it

river thistle
#

They look so cool

#

I wish Asus still made the in win 805 or whatever

restive garnet
#

Not a terrible options, but i love the open loop distro plates for O11s

abstract kite
river thistle
#

?

abstract kite
#

Got my dad the black addition of that case

#

Works great 😛

restive garnet
#

Actually, a huge selling point for me is all the after market O11 parts

river thistle
#

?

restive garnet
#

The 680x is basically the same case, but you cant get shit all aftermarket stuff for it

river thistle
#

What kind of after market stuff do they have?

restive garnet
#

Mostly open loop water cooling stuff

#

Because the case was designed for open loops

#

But even stuff like vinyl wraps

river thistle
#

Oh

restive garnet
#

Noone makes them for the 680x

river thistle
#

Ah..

#

Idk if I'll have enough rgb conection things for 9 fans..

restive garnet
#

What type of fans?

river thistle
#

2 with the radiator, two packs of three, and a single fan, all LL120 from corair

restive garnet
#

Easy enough

river thistle
#

Witll I need to buy another node thing?

restive garnet
#

Corsair rgb fans go to an rgb fan hub, and then on to a lighting node pro or commander pro

#

For 12 LL fans, all you need is 2 rgb fan hubs and a lighting node or commander pro

river thistle
#

I'll have 9

restive garnet
#

Ik

river thistle
#

The radiator ones, and the single one don't come with a node thing though...

restive garnet
#

The two triple packs come wioth them

#

And you only need two

river thistle
#

Yeah the two trio packs come with a 3 slot thing

#

?

restive garnet
#

Should be more than 3

river thistle
#

I have 2 fans from the radiator plus a single as well

restive garnet
#

5-6 iirc

river thistle
#

?

#

Should I just get a commander pro thing?

#

Or should I get a 3 or 6 port fan one

#

Wait they don't have 3 port ones

restive garnet
#

They should come with those

river thistle
#

Oh

#

I'll have extra then right?

restive garnet
#

Should do, yeah

river thistle
#

Can I use they're led strips with that?

#

their*

restive garnet
#

Yup

river thistle
#

Oh sick

#

guess I'll buy 3 led strips then

restive garnet
#

Just make sure you know how it all fits together, and what limitations are in place

river thistle
#

How do I do that?

restive garnet
#

Bit dense

#

Its a pretty comprehensive guide on the corsair eco system

#

Gives a decent account of what each part is and how it interacts with other parts

river thistle
#

So each of the three headers requires an RGB port on the mobo or something?

restive garnet
#

So

#

Corsair fans have an rgb header and a fan header

#

Rgb header goes to the rgb fan hub

#

Fan header goes to mobo,, commander pro, or other 4 pin pwm hub

river thistle
#

Oh..

#

I'm gonna need more fan heads then

restive garnet
#

Rgb fan hub goes to lighting node or commander

#

Get a commander pro

#

They have 6 fan headers on them

river thistle
#

Oh

#

And then the rgb goes into the nodes?

restive garnet
#

Yup

river thistle
#

Okay

restive garnet
#

Or commander

river thistle
#

What are the temp and usb things on the commander for?

restive garnet
#

The commander comes with temperature sensors

#

Which you can mount around your case to measure ambient airflow in up to 4 areas

river thistle
#

Oh cool

restive garnet
#

Well, ambient air temperature

river thistle
#

So will the commander be enough for the 9 fans?

restive garnet
#

And the usb is a 2 port internal usb hub

river thistle
#

Oh

#

Nice

restive garnet
#

You can technically run Y splitters off the commander pro

#

But it doesnt recommend exceeding 8 fans total

#

But you can just run fans off your mobo as well

river thistle
#

Yeah

#

\Idk how many fan headers the mobo has though

restive garnet
#

Or you might be able to run your AIO fans off the AIO

river thistle
#

I would need 4 right?

#

?

restive garnet
#

3

#

6 fans on the commander

river thistle
#

3 on the mobo and 6 on commander

restive garnet
#

Gives you 3 remaining

river thistle
#

that makes 4 right

restive garnet
#

I forgot, are you running 9 or 10 fans

river thistle
#

9

restive garnet
#

Easy enough then

#

Youd only need to run 3 fans off mobo

river thistle
#

Wouldn't I need one for the commander and 3 more for the other fans?

restive garnet
#

Nah

#

Commander runs off USB 2.0

river thistle
#

Oooohh

#

This has 4 right?

restive garnet
#

With sata power for an extra power requirements

river thistle
#

Okay

#

I think I'll get the commander mini to save 15 bucks

restive garnet
#

Not sure on commander mini specs

#

But your mobo does have 4 fan headers

river thistle
#

K sick

restive garnet
#

2 case, 2 cpu

river thistle
#

Mini has 6 fans one led 4 temps and 4 other things idk what they are

restive garnet
#

corsair digital link

#

honestly, i have no clue what that is

river thistle
#

ah

restive garnet
#

id recommend the commander pro in any case

#

that internal usb hub on it is god tier

river thistle
#

Ah

#

Idk if I'd ever use the usb hub thing though

restive garnet
#

depends on what else you want to run inside your case

#

a lot of things run off USB 2.0 internal headers

#

and you would lose one of your two headers to the commander alone, regardless of mini or pro

river thistle
#

Ah..

restive garnet
#

plus another to your AIO

river thistle
#

What kind of things would take that?

restive garnet
#

so without going pro, you have no spare headers

#

RGB hubs are a big one

#

every time you add something from a different eco system

#

thats another USB gone

river thistle
#

Wym?

restive garnet
#

for example

#

thermaltake RGB components

#

all run off a thermaltake hub

#

that hub requires a 2.0 header

river thistle
#

I'm not getting thermal take stuff

restive garnet
#

corsairs hub also requires a 2.0 header

#

i know, but the same principle generally stands across the industry

river thistle
#

The only thing I can thing of that I'm getting that would need it is a rog strix gpu

restive garnet
#

as a proud owner of a strix 1080ti

#

do it

#

but that wont need a usb header

river thistle
#

OH

#

OH

#

Ugh caps

#

Not even for the rbg?

#

Aura Sync?

restive garnet
#

nope

river thistle
#

oh

restive garnet
#

does that all through the PCIE slot

river thistle
#

I don't thing I'll need another USB port then...

restive garnet
#

better to have them and not need them, than need them and not have them

#

especially considering how much usb hubs hate working with other usb hubs

river thistle
#

I shouldn't need it though right?

restive garnet
#

theoretically, no

#

but i think at 15 bucks, its probably worth it for future proofing alone

river thistle
#

I suppose

restive garnet
#

just speaking from experience, which granted is due to my failures at building PCs

#

my mobo only has one header

river thistle
#

oof

restive garnet
#

and my AIO, commander, thermaltake hub all want one

river thistle
#

Yeah

restive garnet
#

granted, i shouldnt have the thermaltake hub

#

i just dont like spending money on something im gunna replace in a few months time

#

ex: i have a 240mm AIO in a 280mm bracket

river thistle
#

lol

restive garnet
#

i want to replace both the AIO and the fans to 140mm versions

#

i also want to do open loop cooling

#

i dont want to replace my AIO, only to replace it later with open loop

#

i also dont want to replace my thermaltake fans with corsair 120mm fans, only to replace those with 140mm later

river thistle
#

Lmao

restive garnet
#

so, im basically stuck at an impasse until i get enough spare money to do open loop cooling, or give up on that altogether

river thistle
#

Yeah

#

I wish I could fit water cooling into my budget

restive garnet
#

you probably could, if you didnt mind going for entry level stuff

#

unless your budget is super tight

river thistle
#

I prefer corsairs stuff but I guess lol

restive garnet
#

i get it tho

#

you want to go all the way

#

RGB it up

river thistle
#

I'm going for at most 2k without a gpu so I'll add my stuff up and see where I'm at

#

Though I suppose If I get water cooling I don't need all these fans...

restive garnet
#

you do

#

thats how water cooling works

river thistle
#

;-;?

restive garnet
#

so

#

a radiator basically splits water up in such a way as to allow air to pass through while maximising surface area next to air

#

it still requires a fan to push air through it

river thistle
#

oh\

#

Well I'll calculate my new price without gpu and see if I can fit it in

restive garnet
#

if you want to go all out, skip water cooling

#

just get a nice AIO, and do water cooling down the line

river thistle
#

?

restive garnet
#

its cheaper in the short to mid term

#

if you want a cheap open loop, you are still looking at double the price of an AIO

river thistle
#

Oof..

restive garnet
#

youd be better off saving your budget and spending it on higher performing parts

#

no point water cooling entry-mid level parts

#

unless you are doing it to show off, in which case, you should still get better parts

river thistle
#

Crap I still need a vertical mount mod...

#

But yeah

restive garnet
#

skip that for the moment as well, id say

river thistle
#

I'm planning to save up for the whole thing when I get a job...

restive garnet
#

ah

#

either way

#

retrofitting a vertical mount bracket into an existing build is like a 10 minute job

#

no reason especially that you need it immediately

river thistle
#

Ah

#

Is that a good one?

restive garnet
#

most brackets do a similar job as any other

#

probably the main thing to remember, is that they do shift your card forward

#

and some cases dont have a lot of room to spare

#

my strix 1080ti is like 300mm

#

and my case only has like 330mm of clearance

river thistle
#

Well it's the O11 case so it should be fine

restive garnet
#

the O11 has a decent amount of clearance

river thistle
#

Ugh it doesn't say if it's PCIE three

restive garnet
#

i dont know anyone that makes PCIE 4 risers

#

so its probably a 3

river thistle
#

I can't use a pcie 4

#

I don't want it to be a 2 though

restive garnet
#

you wont find any PCIE 2 risers

#

also, just get the O11 XL

#

it has a vertical mount on it

#

so you dont have to buy a seperate one

river thistle
#

It does?

restive garnet
#

yup

river thistle
#

Where?

#

Oh

restive garnet
river thistle
#

I don't want the xl one..

restive garnet
#

hard to see

river thistle
#

It's rgb won't match up and it's prolly way too big...

restive garnet
#

its RGB is controllable through aura sync

river thistle
#

OIh

#

I'm get that one then

restive garnet
#

and for that matter, aura sync is controllable (albeit poorly) through corsair icue

river thistle
#

Oof extra 60 bucks though

#

Oh well

#

Yeah

#

That's why I got arua sync motherboard and gonna get arua sync gpu

restive garnet
#

aura sync is a pain in the ass to use, ngl

river thistle
#

Ah

restive garnet
#

icue on the other hand

#

either way, im a deadset asus user because of their build quality and performance

#

i dropped my old cheap asus laptop down 2 stories of stairs

#

unintentionally

river thistle
#

Yeah

restive garnet
#

still works fine

#

dropped a 3.6kg piece of wood on the keyboard like 4 times

river thistle
#

Holy shit

restive garnet
#

had to format the drive, but after that it worked fine

river thistle
#

Lol how

#

xd

restive garnet
#

honestly, not a clue

#

but that was enough to convince me that asus knew what they were doing

river thistle
#

yeah

#

Damn

restive garnet
#

and in the higher end market, their TUF gaming stuff is known for being rock solid

#

and their ROG lineups are constantly setting world records

river thistle
#

$1652.9 USD before peripherals and GPU $2252.87 with peripherals and no GPU

#

Nice

restive garnet
#

your GPU should cost you about 700 bucks or so

river thistle
#

I plan on 3080 or 3090

#

so yeah

#

If the 3090 is only like 1k I'll get that

restive garnet
#

generally speaking, your GPU should be about 40% of your total budget

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i find thats usually the ideal price point where you can get a good card without to much compromise in other areas

river thistle
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My budget for a gpu is like 1k to 1.28k

restive garnet
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probably doable

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if you have just shy of a 3k budget

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im to drunk to do math

abstract kite
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Well let me ask if you have a table to work on?

river thistle
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3 to 3.2 ish

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I have a table If I clear my desk

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So yes

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I'll have to clear my desk anyways to set all my new stuff up though so

abstract kite
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Do you have a Thermal Past applicator?

river thistle
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I swear I had it in my thing

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Ugh it's gone lol

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Idk what I put there either

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😦

abstract kite
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You don't need it. I'm sorry I am trolling.

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But seriously good luck with your new build

river thistle
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Yes I do need thermal paste

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Thanks 😄

restive garnet
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i was gunna point that out, but i was busy getting another drink lmao

river thistle
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It's gonna be a whilre before I build it though 😦

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Lmao

abstract kite
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I sense when the pros are gone to troll the newbies xD

restive garnet
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pfft, im no pro

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im just an electrical engineer with a decent amount of experience

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oh

abstract kite
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Listen buddy... I'm an enginner

restive garnet
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let me rephrase that

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im just an alcohol aficionado

river thistle
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Any thermal paste recomendations?

abstract kite
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Are you part of a tape commercial? Cause you are flexing really hard

restive garnet
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thermal grizzly cryonaut is my brand of choice

abstract kite
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Grizzly cryonaught

restive garnet
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^

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shits premium as hell, and not terrible on price

bright shard
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cant be used on aluminum fyi.

abstract kite
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Ah so you're a man of culture, ulf

river thistle
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Is intel 10th gen aluminum tough?

restive garnet
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uh

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cryonaut is fine to use with aluminium

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you would be thinking of conductonaut

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which can cause galvanic corrosion

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but any decent block will be copper anyway, so you wouldnt need to worry even if cryonaut did cause galvanic corrosion

abstract kite
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What cooler are you getting?

restive garnet
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iirc, a 360mm AIO

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probably corsair

abstract kite
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Water Cooler...

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Ugh

river thistle
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Hydro Series H100i rgb platinum se 240 mm liquid cooler

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Is one gram enough thermal paste?

abstract kite
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In disgusted.