#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk | GTFO | Page 121

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 3:34 AM

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Yes, they are spinning.

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 3:35 AM

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And you've tried every possible HDMI/Display port?

abstract kite Jun 20, 2020, 3:35 AM

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But are they blowing?

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 3:35 AM

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I don't feel air, no.

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 3:39 AM

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honestly, you're gonna need one of these
https://www.amazon.com/PC-Internal-Mini-Onboard-Speaker/dp/B002W4M0DW
to really quickly figure out whats going on.

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 3:40 AM

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Doesn't the board have some kind of debug leds or something?

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Yeah it does they're right above the 24 pin ATX port

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Look at the LEDs there Shawn when it turns on and see what lights turn on, then refer to the manual for that

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 3:43 AM

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It's orange to me.

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 3:43 AM

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Well I doubt color is significant

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There's 4 LEDs which ones are on?

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 3:44 AM

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3rd one down.

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 3:47 AM

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sounds like the dram?

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 3:47 AM

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Something with the RAM

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Okay turn it off and make sure the RAM is installed properly

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 3:49 AM

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How come the RAM's RGB is lit though?

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 3:50 AM

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think of LEDs as an indication as something has power, but thats all, there's no correlation between it actually working.

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unless its an indicator LED

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 3:50 AM

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Is there a power cord I'm missing possibly?

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 3:50 AM

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Well those LEDs are for debugging

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What does it say next to that lit LED?

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Just to be sure

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 3:51 AM

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In the manual?

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 3:51 AM

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on the board

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 3:52 AM

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Is the RAM not compatible possibly?

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DRAM is on.

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 3:52 AM

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Just to be clear we're looking at this right Shawn

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torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 3:53 AM

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Yes.

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 3:53 AM

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you can see it on an image higher up

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 3:53 AM

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Alright just reseat the RAM for now

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Oh just a second

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Looking at the image above if my eyes don't deceive me

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No nevermind that must be something else

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 3:55 AM

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manual says its the mem_led, from the MemOK! II

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 3:56 AM

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So I need to take out the RAM and reinstall it?

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 3:56 AM

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Well yeah, no guarantee you don't have a bad module or something though. This is just to make sure its installed properly

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 3:57 AM

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demono, https://us.informatiweb.net/tutorials/it/bios/asus-the-computer-doesn-t-boot-dram-led-on.html
maybe this after he reseats ram.

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 3:57 AM

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I noticed that feature, but I read its something you do to reset RAM settings after an unstable overclock or something

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 3:58 AM

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I have to stuff all my cables into the case so I can shut it closed and rest it on the side for the RAM.

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 3:59 AM

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just unplug the case before doing so.

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 4:02 AM

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Cable management is going to be a pain.

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 4:02 AM

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Well the more cables the more of a pain

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 4:04 AM

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thank the heavens for dust filters, or all my cables would be coated in dust

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 4:05 AM

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How hard do I pull RAM out?

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 4:05 AM

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Press down on the latch for each slot

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Oh I misread

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How hard, come on Shawn use some common sense phaWesker

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 4:06 AM

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All sticks are out.

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 4:06 AM

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lets have him put one back in for now tbh

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 4:07 AM

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Actually just two

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 4:07 AM

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So use only 2nd and 4th slot?

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 4:07 AM

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Uh yes

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 4:12 AM

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Oh no, the system won't turn on now.

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 4:13 AM

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What?

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 4:13 AM

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is it plugged in?

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 4:13 AM

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Yeah is it plugged in?

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 4:13 AM

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Yes.

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 4:13 AM

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Is the switch on the power supply flipped to on

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 4:13 AM

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Yes.

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 4:14 AM

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are all the front panel connectors still connected?

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 4:14 AM

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This might sounds like a strange question, are you pressing the correct button?

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 4:15 AM

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The 24 pin on the PSU popped out.

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 4:15 AM

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How?

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 4:15 AM

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lmao?

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 4:22 AM

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I don't know anymore. I've been working for past 12 hours now.

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 4:22 AM

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time to rest tbh

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unplug pc and rest.

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 4:24 AM

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How will I even cable manage it properly?

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 4:25 AM

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you dont have much to manage tbh

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just, later, pull them back further behind the back panel and zip tie them

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 4:27 AM

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The one thing that just sticks out to me is the cables for the AIO fans, its just looks bad crossing over the RAM like that

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 4:27 AM

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I will fix that, but I want to make sure the machine will actually work.

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 4:28 AM

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Sure, it seems everything works at least, just a snag with RAM phaSheva

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 4:28 AM

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more like, a snag with the 24 pin.

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 4:29 AM

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I think your replacement cables were a mistake PirateSimon

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 4:29 AM

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DRAM light is on even with 2 sticks.

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 4:30 AM

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You're positive they are installed properly?

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 4:30 AM

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Yes.

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 4:30 AM

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lets try the memok button now?

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 4:30 AM

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Might be dealing with a faulty module possibly

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 4:30 AM

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Turn it off?

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What does MemOk do?

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 4:31 AM

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Apparently it resets all memory settings to default

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 4:32 AM

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Should I flip it now after turning off the PC?

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 4:33 AM

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I believe you would press it now

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 4:33 AM

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hold for 3 seconds

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 4:35 AM

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Should I take out the sticks out of my prebuilt and try those?

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 4:35 AM

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Well we know that memory works

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 4:35 AM

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they probably need to be ddr4

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 4:35 AM

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Yeah its DDR4

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 4:35 AM

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i doubt your prebuilt is ddr4

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 4:36 AM

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What does incorrect RAM installation consist of?

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 4:36 AM

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Something like this

📎 603ee940-48bc-4861-8c10-9b81090dec55.png

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 4:37 AM

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wrong slots, bad module, unsupported, not completely seated.

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 4:38 AM

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I'm half tempted to just put the GPU back in my prebuilt so I at least have a computer to use.

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 4:38 AM

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Uh well you'd have to move the CPU back over too

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Just try the old RAM and see if that works

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 4:40 AM

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I'll take a picture of the installation so maybe I could see if it is installed fully?

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 4:41 AM

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All you need to see is if the latch clasps the stick, and that you can't see any of the connectors of the module

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 4:48 AM

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Is this a bad angle?

📎 image0.jpg

eternal cairn Jun 20, 2020, 4:48 AM

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It kinda looks crooked.

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Might wanna push it in some more.

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 4:49 AM

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That doesn't look like the latch end though

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That motherboard just has the one latch for each slot

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 4:51 AM

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📎 image0.jpg

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 4:52 AM

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Alright it looks fine from what I can see

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If its still giving you the DRAM light, just try a single stick then for now

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Remove the one of the 4th slot I guess phaSheva

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 4:54 AM

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So, go one stick at a time?

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 4:54 AM

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If anything this is to check for a faulty module so yeah

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Exactly

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 4:58 AM

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The system turned on and off three times, and got to BIOS.

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 4:58 AM

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Excellent, so it worked out with just the one RAM module

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Take note of the one you removed

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And check the manual for dual channel I've been trying to look for that in the PDF but I can't seem to find it

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 5:00 AM

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So now what?

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 5:00 AM

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Ah I found it

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Just a question the memory you bought, you bought a 4 stick kit?

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 5:01 AM

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Yes.

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 5:02 AM

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Okay it looks like you might have to return for a replacement cause it looks like one of them is no good

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 5:03 AM

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Should I try the other sticks?

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 5:03 AM

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Yeah you can, also it looks like for running a single stick on this motherboard its the last slot phaSheva

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Anyway whatever, just take note of the stick you removed and try the other two in the same dual channel configuration

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 5:04 AM

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I'm pretty 8 GB is not enough.

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 5:04 AM

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2nd and 4th slot

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I'm not suggesting you run 1 stick, I was just rambling

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 5:05 AM

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Do I need to power off the machine each time I add another stick?

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 5:05 AM

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Yes

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 5:05 AM

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What do I do to exit BIOS now though?

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 5:05 AM

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That doesn't really matter right now, just power off

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 5:05 AM

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So I can hold power button while it's at the BIOS screen?

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 5:05 AM

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That's right, you can do that in any state of the computer actually

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When running an OS whatever, its an inherent feature for every computer now

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 5:06 AM

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I was told it'd damage drives though.

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 5:06 AM

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Uh in long term use its not recommended to do, that's right

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Typically its something you do as a last resort, but there's no choice right now. Unless you just want to install Windows now and solve the RAM thing later

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 5:09 AM

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Can you not do triple channel?

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 5:10 AM

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No

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 5:10 AM

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Is it normal for the system to turn off and back on?

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 5:11 AM

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I believe for Asus motherboards that's typical

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But in any case, triple channel hasn't been a thing for like 12 years?

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The first i-core architecure used triple channel

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 5:13 AM

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Only 1 of the 4 sticks works.

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 5:13 AM

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What, so its only running in single channel?

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That doesn't seem right

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 5:14 AM

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I tried the 3 other sticks in dual channel with the working stick,

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And all 3 failed.

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 5:14 AM

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That seems impossible, try running each stick in single channel.

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Something might be wrong with one of the slots

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Well specifically the one that you're replacing each time to test it

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 5:17 AM

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Are the 3 other DIMM slots broken?

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 5:17 AM

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No I didn't say that

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But one of them might be

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 5:17 AM

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have we tested each stick yet in single channel?

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 5:18 AM

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Second stick work in single channel.

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 5:18 AM

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If dual channel isn't working at all, like that's suggesting something's up with that slot

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 5:19 AM

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Can you not fix broken slots?

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 5:20 AM

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typically not.

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 5:20 AM

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Not something I know about, though I know enough that an individual probably couldn't do it on their own

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 5:20 AM

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however, best case scenario is that the memory is bad

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 5:21 AM

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The other sticks work in single channel.

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 5:21 AM

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So the memory is fine, dual channel isn't working for some reason

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And obviously it doesn't work with all slots populated

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 5:21 AM

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What are reasons the other slots aren't working?

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 5:22 AM

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Well that's the thing, if one slot is faulty its just not gonna work at all

lilac geyser Jun 20, 2020, 5:23 AM

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did you install the ram while the motherboard was in the case?

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i think i broke a slot doing that in my first build, flexed the motherboard too much

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 5:24 AM

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No, when I first put in the 4 sticks, the motherboard was outside the case.

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 5:25 AM

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cant we do a stick, one slot at a time?

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 5:26 AM

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I think its been narrowed down already anyway

lilac geyser Jun 20, 2020, 5:26 AM

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i didnt read up, where is he at in the build

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 5:26 AM

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It won't work in dual channel, its clearly the one he swaps out

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 5:26 AM

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Am I out of luck? Do I need to buy a new motherboard?

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 5:26 AM

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The 4th slot right?

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 5:26 AM

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Only 4th slot works I guess.

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 5:27 AM

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Oh so its the second slot that isn't working in dual channel?

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 5:27 AM

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I don't know what's happening.

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It only gets to BIOS when there's only one stick in 4th slots.

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 5:28 AM

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That makes sense since that's the recommended configuration in the manual

lilac geyser Jun 20, 2020, 5:28 AM

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did you check bios settings for ram

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 5:28 AM

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So what should I try now?

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 5:28 AM

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Its the 4th slot for single channel, 2nd and 4th for dual

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 5:29 AM

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Is there a setting in BIOS somewhere?

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 5:29 AM

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So running dual channel doesn't work at all?

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 5:29 AM

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No.

lilac geyser Jun 20, 2020, 5:29 AM

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it should be at default settings if you didnt change it, but if you can get into the bios why not check

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 5:29 AM

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Yeah something's wrong and it doesn't look like its the RAM

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 5:30 AM

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Where is the setting?

lilac geyser Jun 20, 2020, 5:30 AM

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im not sure what you bios has, but start with XMP off

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there might be some overclocking profile or settings on the ram, set those to default

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 5:31 AM

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That's what the memOK button is for apparently, but it can't hurt to double check some kind of weird preset overclock

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 5:31 AM

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Where do I go for RAM settings?

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 5:31 AM

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Though I've never heard of that

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 5:31 AM

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Where are the settings I need?

lilac geyser Jun 20, 2020, 5:32 AM

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are you in bios?

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 5:32 AM

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It says the frequency is 2133 mhz.

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The RAM I bought is 3200 mhz.

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 5:32 AM

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So its running at default speed

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Yeah that's typical

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Don't worry about setting that atm

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 5:33 AM

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What are settings in the BIOS that can affect why the memory only works in single channel?

lilac geyser Jun 20, 2020, 5:33 AM

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what is the problem, sticks 1-3 not detected?

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 5:33 AM

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Dual channel won't work

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That's basically it

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I'm thinking faulty slot

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He's confirmed each stick works fine running at single channel, so the memory works. Granted it could be an issue of an unsupported memory kit phaSheva

lilac geyser Jun 20, 2020, 5:35 AM

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no boot when sticks installed?

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or just all running single channel

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 5:35 AM

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That's right, in dual channel or all slots

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 5:35 AM

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Is my motherboard busted and I need to go buy a new one?

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 5:35 AM

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You don't need to buy a new one

lilac geyser Jun 20, 2020, 5:36 AM

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so you have something called "Channel A[and B] DIMM Control"

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 5:36 AM

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Don't even worry about that, you can easily replace it with wherever you bought it from as long as they have stock

lilac geyser Jun 20, 2020, 5:36 AM

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lol make sure that is enabled

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 5:37 AM

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But I don't have the anti static bag or some of the bags the motherboard came in, so I am out of luck.

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 5:37 AM

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you kept the boxes at least?

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 5:37 AM

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What happened to them did you throw them out?

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 5:38 AM

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Yes, because I'm stupid.

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I have the boxes though.

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 5:38 AM

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Well at least you didn't throw out anything crucial like the socket cover

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 5:39 AM

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i really hope he did not.

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 5:44 AM

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I didn't. I still have it.

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 5:44 AM

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cool

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 5:46 AM

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So what do I do now?

lilac geyser Jun 20, 2020, 5:47 AM

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sometimes ram just isnt compatible with the motherboard, was that ram listed as compatible?

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but its weird that 1 stick worked

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 5:49 AM

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Are the 3 slots broken?

crisp sage Jun 20, 2020, 5:49 AM

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got an issue, when my second monitor is plugged in its stretched res 640x(something) and windows doesn't give me the option to change it

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 5:51 AM

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Am I screwed and I need to exchange my motherboard?

late sorrel Jun 20, 2020, 5:52 AM

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yes, I think

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it’s a luck of the draw as always

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 5:53 AM

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happens, but not screwed

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 5:54 AM

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So I need to exchange the motherboard or just stick with single channel memory?

lilac geyser Jun 20, 2020, 5:55 AM

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what is the summary of the problem again?

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 5:56 AM

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dimms seem to be not working correctly.

lilac geyser Jun 20, 2020, 5:56 AM

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so, one working dimm? did he check the working dimm in other slots?

late sorrel Jun 20, 2020, 5:58 AM

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no, there is only one slot that works on his mobo

lilac geyser Jun 20, 2020, 5:59 AM

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bummer, call mobo support line tomorrow

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 5:59 AM

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however, i found this reddit post
https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/cr6ot5/solved_dual_channel_ram_not_working/

lilac geyser Jun 20, 2020, 6:00 AM

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yeah, cpu could be at fault oo

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too

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 6:00 AM

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Should I loosen the cooler screws a bit then?

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 6:00 AM

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worth a shot

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 6:01 AM

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How much?

lilac geyser Jun 20, 2020, 6:01 AM

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cooler doesnt need to be super tight i think

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like its not holding the cpu in or anything

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 6:02 AM

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quarter turn on each screw until it posts?

lilac geyser Jun 20, 2020, 6:02 AM

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^

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 6:02 AM

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So do this while it's on?

lilac geyser Jun 20, 2020, 6:03 AM

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no

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 6:03 AM

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nah

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like, turn quarter, on, post? off, turn, on, post?

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loose? stop.

lilac geyser Jun 20, 2020, 6:04 AM

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i mean you did reseat the ram, try reseating the cpu and cooler?

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but first try loosening

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 6:04 AM

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reseating is definitely an option

lilac geyser Jun 20, 2020, 6:08 AM

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whats this ram training thing ive heard of? how long does that take?

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i havent built in a while, i dont think it was a thing

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 6:08 AM

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no idea, but it happens pretty quick probably.

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its probably just trying out ram profiles.

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 6:09 AM

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Quarter turn screws did not work.

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 6:10 AM

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attempt to reseat cpu is up i guess.

lilac geyser Jun 20, 2020, 6:10 AM

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shawn is it just constantly rebooting?

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or black screen?

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 6:10 AM

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It turned off and on 5 times this time.

lilac geyser Jun 20, 2020, 6:11 AM

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ok so.. give it 10 minutes

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just let it reboot

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 6:11 AM

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if its rebooting on its own, let it do its thing.

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 6:11 AM

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It's not rebooting this time.

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It stopped.

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 6:12 AM

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was it rebooting on its own?

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 6:12 AM

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Yes.

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 6:12 AM

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ok

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 6:12 AM

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Turned off and on five times.

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Should I try the RAM in my prebuilt to see if it works in dual channel?

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Or do you have other ideas?

lilac geyser Jun 20, 2020, 6:18 AM

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does bios give any error code

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 6:19 AM

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with all memory sticks in we cant reach bios

lilac geyser Jun 20, 2020, 6:19 AM

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any beeps?

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 6:19 AM

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no beeper present

lilac geyser Jun 20, 2020, 6:19 AM

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boot code

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ohh

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 6:20 AM

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Beeps as in audible, sound beeping or just the times the system turns off and on?

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 6:20 AM

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warning light indicates dram issues.

lilac geyser Jun 20, 2020, 6:20 AM

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yeah audible sound

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so its not rebooting over and over anymore?

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 6:21 AM

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that was part of the MemOK! procedure.

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 6:21 AM

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No.

lilac geyser Jun 20, 2020, 6:21 AM

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i didnt read everything from above

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 6:21 AM

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tries a profile, fail? restart.

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 6:22 AM

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Do I need to take everything apart now?

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 6:23 AM

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did we check the compatability list?

lilac geyser Jun 20, 2020, 6:24 AM

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i asked

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 6:24 AM

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I checked on PcPartPicker and it's compatible.

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 6:25 AM

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ok.

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the only thing we probably have left is reseating the CPU

lilac geyser Jun 20, 2020, 6:25 AM

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yeah, bit i dont think they go to mobo level compatibility

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on pcpartpicker

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 6:25 AM

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So I have to check for bent pins?

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 6:26 AM

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carefully, without touching, if you want.

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 6:26 AM

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Do I have to take apart everything now?

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 6:27 AM

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you dont need to take everything off to reset the cpu

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if you're going to RMA the board, youll need to take everything off.

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 6:27 AM

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My only option now is to reseat the CPU?

lilac geyser Jun 20, 2020, 6:28 AM

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in no particular order:

mem compatibility list
inspect socket, reseat cpu
memory training

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 6:28 AM

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I hate this now. I'm frustrated, I'm not happy, and I'm just becoming more increasingly sad with every problem I come across.

lilac geyser Jun 20, 2020, 6:29 AM

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you've been at this all day

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stop for now

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 6:29 AM

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its important to take breaks

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take a deep breath, drink some water and go to bed.

lilac geyser Jun 20, 2020, 6:29 AM

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dont come back to this until you watch an hour of tv tomorrow morning or whatever else you do

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 6:30 AM

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Are first time builds always this problematic?

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 6:30 AM

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they can be

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 6:31 AM

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I'm perfectly fine with a single stick of RAM to be honest.

lilac geyser Jun 20, 2020, 6:32 AM

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you'll fix it

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tomorrow

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 6:32 AM

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i would highly advise stopping here for the night

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my second build i did had a similar issue and i had to RMA the board.
i felt bummed about it, but the RMA fixed the issue, and then the PC lasted for a very long time.

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 6:35 AM

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Strange thing, I decided to try putting both sticks in the 3rd and 4th slot, and it booted.

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 6:35 AM

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interesting.

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 6:35 AM

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And it is reading both sticks.

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 6:36 AM

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reseating can possibly fix the issue, maybe.

lilac geyser Jun 20, 2020, 6:36 AM

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he loosened it

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 6:37 AM

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I don't feel comfortable dismantling anything that far.

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 6:37 AM

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maybe try filling the other dimms now?

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 6:37 AM

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Turn the system off before doing so?

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 6:37 AM

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always

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 6:38 AM

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Am I not supposed to hold power button to shut down during BIOS?

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 6:39 AM

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as long as you dont do it while its saving, its totally fine.

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but doing that wouldnt make sense anyway.

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 6:43 AM

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Putting in all 4 sticks still fails to boot.

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What is likely the problem?

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 6:52 AM

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if you put them in slots 3 and 4, they're probably both running in single channel mode

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 6:52 AM

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And that is bad I assume?

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 6:53 AM

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significantly slower

restive garnet Jun 20, 2020, 6:53 AM

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well, they didnt last long

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 6:54 AM

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good riddance to spam bots

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 6:54 AM

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My friend is saying Intel chipsets weren't made to handle 4 sticks simultaneously?

restive garnet Jun 20, 2020, 6:54 AM

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nah

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intel handles 4 sticks just fine

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 6:54 AM

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???????????????? the fuck?

restive garnet Jun 20, 2020, 6:55 AM

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thats some highly autistic shit

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and i say that with full deference to autistic people

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 6:55 AM

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What should I do now? I don't feel like dismantling the AIO to reseat the CPU.

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 6:55 AM

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personally, if im tired, you're probably tired too.

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and i'd like to sleep.

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 6:56 AM

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I'm probably just going to be too frustrated tomorrow.

restive garnet Jun 20, 2020, 6:56 AM

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ive sort of missed the last few hours

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 6:56 AM

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I'm kind of experiencing a withdrawal from not playing games for a while.

restive garnet Jun 20, 2020, 6:56 AM

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but i think the gist is that some of your dimm slots are preventing it from booting

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unfortunately, clay would be right

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only things you can do are reseat all your ram sticks and CPU, other than that, probably an RMA

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which is a bit rough for your first build

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but it happens

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 6:57 AM

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that is the gist, but we havent checked each dimm individually yet i think, but i dont think it matters at this point.

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 6:57 AM

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I'm about to just take out the GPU and put it back in the prebuilt so I can at least have a computer.

restive garnet Jun 20, 2020, 6:58 AM

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probably not a bad idea in the short term

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 6:58 AM

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probably fine to take an extended break, then RMA the mobo.

restive garnet Jun 20, 2020, 6:58 AM

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im actually super gutted if it is an RMA job

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 6:58 AM

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dont get me wrong, i am too.

restive garnet Jun 20, 2020, 6:58 AM

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like, your first build

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and you were doing great

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and you get screwed over by something out of your control

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thankfully, the first time i had to RMA was a pre built, and i never had to on my first home build

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 7:05 AM

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well, internet agrees with our verdict.
https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/single-channel-and-dual-channel-ram-problem.3483682/

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there's simply nothing more i think i can say for the moment except for

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gnight

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 7:12 AM

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I'm done. I'm probably done for the week or month, I don't know.

restive garnet Jun 20, 2020, 7:15 AM

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honestly, it happens, but thats really rough

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especially for your first time

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 7:16 AM

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I probably will go back to just buying prebuilt systems if I cannot get this sorted out without my emotions killing me.

restive garnet Jun 20, 2020, 7:16 AM

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id honestly go take a break, get some sleep, and RMA it in the morning

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 7:17 AM

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i cannot stress how important it is, to simply take a break, take it easy, RMA the board.

restive garnet Jun 20, 2020, 7:17 AM

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its something completely out of your control

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and if it makes you feel better, it happens to the guys making the pre builts as well

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you just dont hear about it

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 7:19 AM

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Do I even want to restart the build process if I RMA the board? I don't know.

restive garnet Jun 20, 2020, 7:19 AM

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thats a choice that you'll have to make for yourself

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but, my recommendation is to keep going

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after your first time building, you only go up from there

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in a few years time, you can be doing bigger, better things

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with lots of RGB 😉

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 7:21 AM

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Is there such services where I can pay someone to build the computer for me if I give them the parts to do so?

lilac geyser Jun 20, 2020, 7:22 AM

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yup

restive garnet Jun 20, 2020, 7:22 AM

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heaps

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i mean, if you lived anywhere near me, id have done it for free

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but again, do it yourself

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at risk of sounding like EA

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you will get a sense of pride and accomplishment out of it

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 7:23 AM

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I don't want to try again if this will be the way it goes every time.

restive garnet Jun 20, 2020, 7:23 AM

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its not

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most of the time its just plug and play

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you just drew the short straw this time

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iirc, its like a 1 in 1000+ chance of getting a dud board

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 7:24 AM

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after constantly kicking myself for the majority of my life, ive finally gotten to a point where i wish i could give some choice words to my past self.
take a deep breath, don't give up, pain is temporary, discover ASMR, drink water, the latter levels of GTFO are more frustrating than PC building, many things are more frustrating than PC building and i am frustrated greatly when i dont take breaks.

restive garnet Jun 20, 2020, 7:25 AM

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gotta admit

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most of that is true

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especially the part about GTFO levels

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fuck GTFO

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 7:26 AM

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I'd prefer just paying someone to build it who probably is better equipped to build a computer than me.

restive garnet Jun 20, 2020, 7:26 AM

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honestly, you are more than capable of doing it

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you just got bad luck this time

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 7:27 AM

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And that bad luck is pretty much enough for me to want to go back and wish I didn't purchase the parts, but too late now.

restive garnet Jun 20, 2020, 7:27 AM

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7 times down, 8 times up shawn

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 7:28 AM

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aaaaannnyway, did we use the pre-applied thermalpaste on the cpu cooler?

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if so, youll need to purchase thermal paste if you dont have any.

restive garnet Jun 20, 2020, 7:29 AM

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probably doesnt hurt to have a tube of it lying around anyway

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 7:29 AM

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not that its a problem, its cheap and lasts several builds.

restive garnet Jun 20, 2020, 7:29 AM

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especially some of the cooler master pastes

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 7:30 AM

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Are you sure the processor can still be reused if I take the pump off to check the socket pins?

restive garnet Jun 20, 2020, 7:30 AM

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they practically pay you to use it

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yes

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 7:30 AM

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They’re designed to be able to swap

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 7:30 AM

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cpu is more than likely totally fine

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 7:30 AM

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Do I need to take the whole motherboard and AIO out?

restive garnet Jun 20, 2020, 7:30 AM

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the only issue you would have is that it would much the paste up a bit, which isnt a huge deal

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might just mean an extra degree or two

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nah, just take the AIO block off

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 7:31 AM

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depends on what is doing next

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 7:31 AM

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Will I need to reapply thermal paste?

restive garnet Jun 20, 2020, 7:31 AM

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you wont Need to

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 7:32 AM

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if we're just reseating, no.

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if you're RMA'ing the board, i highly reccomend new paste.

restive garnet Jun 20, 2020, 7:32 AM

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i usually redo my paste every time i take my block off, but not if it was brand new paste to begin with

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 7:33 AM

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^

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 7:33 AM

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Is reseating just readjusting the CPU if it looks wrong?

restive garnet Jun 20, 2020, 7:33 AM

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more like just taking it out and putting it back in

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 7:33 AM

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its taking it out, inspect, put back in.

restive garnet Jun 20, 2020, 7:33 AM

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might look completely fine, but just be a touch out

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 7:33 AM

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Check bent pins

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 7:33 AM

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^, be carreful doing so tho

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 7:34 AM

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If a pin is bent, is it over?

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 7:35 AM

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For the extremely experienced we can try and bend it back but that could cause further issues

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 7:35 AM

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^

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 7:35 AM

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Rma is best option if that’s the case

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 7:36 AM

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Can it not be RMAed if pins are bent since I assume it's due to user error?

restive garnet Jun 20, 2020, 7:37 AM

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bent pins are a hard one to prove

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most of the time they would rather take it back than face a potential lawsuit

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 7:39 AM

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I remember how I yelled at my friend for 5 minutes after he yanked the socket cover off the board when I wasn’t watching

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He bent a pin in the process and I had to bend it back

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 7:40 AM

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I'm just scared that the pins are bent.

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 7:40 AM

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it’s no biggy

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If that’s the case then just pack it up and rma

lilac geyser Jun 20, 2020, 7:40 AM

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it could just be unequal pressure just needs a reseat

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 7:41 AM

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Too much pressure on cpu is usually the case

restive garnet Jun 20, 2020, 7:41 AM

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those 1151 pins are pretty hard to bend in any case

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speaking from experience, my pins were virtually non existent

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would have had to intentionally try to damage them

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 7:42 AM

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fwiw, things happen, and its not worth beating yourself up over it.

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zzz

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 7:42 AM

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Fax

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It’s all part of the learning cycle

finite sentinel Jun 20, 2020, 8:09 AM

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Damn laptop is on it's last leg... HDD itself is barely functioning and i have a major issue with overheating even though the heatsink is clean and has relatively fresh paste... 😦

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I need to find a good priced replacement

restive garnet Jun 20, 2020, 8:15 AM

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Gigabyte have some cheap decent spec laptops

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If you want a bit more expensive, i think there are a few TUF gaming ones at good prices

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Cant really comment to much tho, im from nz and our prices are pretty wild at times, and we dont get as many decent sales

abstract kite Jun 20, 2020, 11:22 AM

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Would this be a viable CPU Cooler?

📎 1592652021938.jpg

wise pumice Jun 20, 2020, 11:28 AM

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lmao

abstract kite Jun 20, 2020, 11:35 AM

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I think it would be the best CPU Water Cooler on the market right now.

plain nebula Jun 20, 2020, 11:47 AM

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ifunny watermark

abstract kite Jun 20, 2020, 11:52 AM

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Its actually a real item being sold on the market xD

merry bay Jun 20, 2020, 12:05 PM

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it's not, not only the font isn't right but you can't look it up anywhere either.

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probably a good thing, can't imagine it being well supported

crisp sage Jun 20, 2020, 12:55 PM

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HDMI no signal issue, nothing working in the HDMI port on my 5700xt have tried numerous troubleshoots from changing pcie slot, DDU and fresh installing windows

abstract kite Jun 20, 2020, 1:18 PM

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@crisp sage Use the display port on the Graphics card. Also, it could there is no drivers for it.

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 1:18 PM

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Hm

restive garnet Jun 20, 2020, 1:18 PM

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you could always try not using AMD 😉

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in the words of the immortal jensen huang, it just works

crisp sage Jun 20, 2020, 1:25 PM

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It was working perfectly before

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I can't use the displayport as my VR is HDMI.

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my dp to HDMI adaptor doesn't like the headset

cedar jay Jun 20, 2020, 2:25 PM

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I've had issues with AMD not detecting HDMI output before. Try removing the card and putting it back in. I'm no expert, but that has worked for me before.

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@crisp sage

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To me it happened at the end of its lifespan, which forced me to buy a whole new rig. The smallest vibration near my PC would disconnect the HDMI output.

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I still don't know what caused it, but through trial and error the closest I could get is that it somehow managed to deform the slot it was plugged in to, and a small vibration would be enough to dislocate it enough to lose connection.

sick reef Jun 20, 2020, 2:40 PM

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That would suggest the PCB mounting would be bad.

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If it wasn't the cable.

abstract kite Jun 20, 2020, 2:54 PM

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you could always try not using AMD 😉
@restive garnet

You could also empty your bank account with Nvidia 😉

sick reef Jun 20, 2020, 2:54 PM

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When it comes to similar performance GPU? peepoLulWut

abstract kite Jun 20, 2020, 2:57 PM

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I've always seen the 5700XT lower than the 2070 Super. Even at one point like $100~ less in comparison.

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$100 ain't much, but still.

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 3:07 PM

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Ehh, I could say the same

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But honestly, seeing how it’s improved over time I’d definitely recommend that over a 2070 Super

fierce lodge Jun 20, 2020, 3:13 PM

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does anyone know how to fix this? nearly every icon is blue (the apps are still installed and work propperly but their icons are blue)

📎 Screenshot_9.png

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 3:44 PM

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How is everyone in here?

void perch Jun 20, 2020, 3:57 PM

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So I'm thinking of building a new pc. Probably going to get a Threadripper

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 4:01 PM

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I tried using the old RAM and it doesn't boot with any of those sticks.

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 4:09 PM

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Are you using the old with new

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Cause that’s not gonna ever happen lul

abstract kite Jun 20, 2020, 4:09 PM

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Out with the old and in with the new as some say.

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 4:09 PM

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You can, but the better RAM will have to underclock itself to match the weaker ones

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So not worth it really

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Wonder which one d0c’s gonna get though 👀

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3970X/3990X or the Zen 3, hm

abstract kite Jun 20, 2020, 4:12 PM

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Well he is probably gonna get something to improve his Bot since you sat there and trash talked it yesterday, Muppy. 👀

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 4:13 PM

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Haha

abstract kite Jun 20, 2020, 4:14 PM

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I think your one comment has made this happen.

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 4:15 PM

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Lmao

fierce frost Jun 20, 2020, 4:18 PM

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ok so ive been building a PC for my brother the past 2 months, specs are decent, all the parts are new aside from the case.
Got the PSU today, wired it up n all that, the only sign of life is the power button light, no fan spin, no beep, nothing
Tried replugging the PSU cables, reseating the memory and remounting the CPU and cooler, still nothing, can anyone help?

void perch Jun 20, 2020, 4:19 PM

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I really want the 3990x but that's way overkill for me. I'm thinking either the 2990WX 32 core or 3960X 24-Core

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 4:20 PM

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@fleet canopy I just tried both old RAM sticks to see if it would boot in dual channel since it is DDR4 and 2666MHz, but it didn't boot.

void perch Jun 20, 2020, 4:20 PM

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I need to start putting some other parts into my wish list and see where I come out.

abstract kite Jun 20, 2020, 4:20 PM

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Are you sure the cable is 100% in it's socket and are you sure that the wall socket you are plugging it in at is receiving power to it? @fierce frost

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Also what PSU did you get?

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 4:21 PM

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Probably will be a while until Zen 3 comes out though, no?

fierce frost Jun 20, 2020, 4:21 PM

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aye, tested 2 different known good outlets and replugged the cables
its a Kolink 500W

abstract kite Jun 20, 2020, 4:22 PM

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Hmm

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What is your GPU, CPU, GPU?

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 4:22 PM

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Yeah It would be best to go for the newer threadripper

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 4:22 PM

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Whoa, dual GPU?!?!?

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 4:22 PM

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Cause they replaced the socket and chipset for it

void perch Jun 20, 2020, 4:22 PM

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What's the best gpu out right now under 1,500?

fierce frost Jun 20, 2020, 4:22 PM

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RX 570, Ryzen 3 1200

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 4:23 PM

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2080 Ti

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Or 2080 Super if you want

abstract kite Jun 20, 2020, 4:23 PM

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500W should be enough...

void perch Jun 20, 2020, 4:23 PM

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how's it stack to the 2080 super?

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 4:23 PM

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New GPUs are soon, I wouldn't even consider getting something that expensive when its gonna be blown away this Fall

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 4:23 PM

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Honestly I’d just get a Super myself, or wait and see how RTX 3000 is

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And if none of the offerings from the new stuff interests you, the price drop is sure to be something coming

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 4:25 PM

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There's gonna be a revolution in GPU performance

abstract kite Jun 20, 2020, 4:25 PM

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Just remember that AMD and Nvidia takes turns having shit drivers and it's Nvidia's turn.

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 4:25 PM

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Yeah a big improvement really

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 4:25 PM

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Like new stuff you wouldn't want to miss out on

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 4:25 PM

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Nvidia might not even be bad in drivers

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Both might just do pretty great in drivers and performance

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 4:26 PM

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Just because Nvidia's drivers seem stable often doesn't mean they always are. Their drivers were the reason Vista got a bad rep phaWesker

abstract kite Jun 20, 2020, 4:26 PM

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@fierce frost make sure that the PSU is properly plugged in to the motherboard and GPU.

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If not it you may have gotten a dud of a PSU

fierce frost Jun 20, 2020, 4:27 PM

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it seems to be, lemme replug everything again hol on

abstract kite Jun 20, 2020, 4:28 PM

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The 750W I got for my father's build there were some 1 star reviews saying it was dead on arrival.

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 4:29 PM

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That’s always bound to happen to any parts so eh

abstract kite Jun 20, 2020, 4:29 PM

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Yeah it sucks, but it happens.

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 4:29 PM

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That's such BS and why retailer reviews are garbage

fierce frost Jun 20, 2020, 4:30 PM

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mhm yeah still nothing

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oof

abstract kite Jun 20, 2020, 4:30 PM

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Whelp.

fierce frost Jun 20, 2020, 4:31 PM

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i mean the case power LED turns on but thats about it

abstract kite Jun 20, 2020, 4:31 PM

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Hmm...

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It could be 500W is not enough for your other components?

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 4:31 PM

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Do fans go on in the PSU?

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And perhaps, what are the parts?

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 4:32 PM

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Yeah

fierce frost Jun 20, 2020, 4:32 PM

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no, no fans

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 4:32 PM

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Oh

fierce frost Jun 20, 2020, 4:32 PM

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well no fan spin sorry

abstract kite Jun 20, 2020, 4:32 PM

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So there are lights?

fierce frost Jun 20, 2020, 4:32 PM

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yeah

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lights, no fan spin or anything else

abstract kite Jun 20, 2020, 4:32 PM

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Well looks like you have a bomb waiting to happen.

fierce frost Jun 20, 2020, 4:32 PM

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hm

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 4:32 PM

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So if none of the fans in the psu works, it’s dead

abstract kite Jun 20, 2020, 4:33 PM

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^

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 4:33 PM

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Yeah if any significant power load happens that thing gonna cut out or explode

abstract kite Jun 20, 2020, 4:34 PM

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Or short and take the rest of your components with itm

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 4:34 PM

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Mm, explode

fierce frost Jun 20, 2020, 4:34 PM

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oof alright, well thanks for the help 👌

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 4:34 PM

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If it explodes it still is gonna kill everything though, ain’t it

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 4:34 PM

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Yerah its why you gotta make sure you're getting something quality

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I ended up replacing my power supply after a few months cause after using it I found out it had a bad rep of failing early or exploding

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 4:35 PM

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You can grab some Corsair CMx 600W gold if you want, those are neat

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 4:35 PM

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Still it might be fine for some cheapo build later

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 4:35 PM

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Or bronze, gold seems kinda unnecessary

abstract kite Jun 20, 2020, 4:35 PM

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I got the 700W Corsair Broze iirc

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Works pretty well

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 4:36 PM

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I upgraded to Gold from Bronze, I noticed the efficiency almost immediately I think phaWesker

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 4:36 PM

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I pretty much recommend gold anyways

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 4:36 PM

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Bills came down slightly, I have this thing running all day so

abstract kite Jun 20, 2020, 4:36 PM

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Speaking of... I should really dust out my PC

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 4:37 PM

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Gold for 550-900W ish, after that it’s platinum or titanium really

abstract kite Jun 20, 2020, 4:37 PM

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I put my PC to sleep and my electric bill has dropped a little over $100

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Feels good

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 4:37 PM

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Kek

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 4:38 PM

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It only boots when there is a stick in the 4th slot, a stick in the 3rd slot, or two sticks in the 3rd and 4th slot.

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 4:38 PM

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That’s weird

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 4:39 PM

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Using the first two does nothing then?

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I guess the left channel is just dead if that's the case

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 4:44 PM

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Is it a bent pin problem?

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And where can I get another anti-static bag to RMA the board?

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 5:22 PM

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📎 image0.jpg 📎 image1.jpg

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Reseating it didn't work.

lilac geyser Jun 20, 2020, 5:28 PM

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how long are you waiting to determine it didnt work?

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 5:31 PM

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How long should I be waiting?

lilac geyser Jun 20, 2020, 5:31 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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particularly bullet point number 4

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but the whole page really

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 5:40 PM

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It just now worked with dual channel.

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Now after testing 4 sticks and it not working and then taking out the two sticks to go back to dual channel, it doesn't work.

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So what happened?

sick reef Jun 20, 2020, 6:29 PM

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doing hardware changes to your computer might require a few restarts before the setup works.

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 6:35 PM

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And I just found my motherboard didn't come with the SATA cables that are supposed to be included.

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Yea, I think I'll just RMA the motherboard.

restive garnet Jun 20, 2020, 6:54 PM

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@abstract kite ive always viewed nvidia cards as having equal price to performance with AMD cards, but the premium part of the price tag is stability, where it just works

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 7:02 PM

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What is a 2 in 1 SATA cable?

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 7:18 PM

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Drivers on AMD cards are usually abysmal especially at launch

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i mean just look at the radeon VII

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@torn ferry U got an ROG board right?

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 7:34 PM

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Yea.

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My last hope is either updating BIOS or buying a 16 GB stick to run in single channel since at least one of the DIMMs work.

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 7:38 PM

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Or just return board

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 7:39 PM

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Or that too.

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 7:39 PM

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I’d just return the board if I had that problem

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 7:39 PM

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Or going as far as ripping the Z370 from my current prebuilt and putting it into the new case.

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 7:39 PM

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No good having a board that can’t do a vital thing needed

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Just return it, possibly get another one for free since you already bought that board like less than a month ago

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 7:40 PM

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I don't think you had to switch boards really, the reason to get it was to maybe get a 9900K later

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 7:40 PM

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Current BIOS on the system is 1302, but the update I found is 1502.

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 7:41 PM

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Do that then I guess, if it ain’t working so well with it in current

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 7:41 PM

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Uh what does the update add?

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 7:41 PM

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If it doesn’t work, then just return

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 7:42 PM

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1401 says "Improve Memory Overclocking Rules"

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1502 says "Improved System Stability".

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 7:42 PM

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I doubt it would help, but I suppose you could flash to the latest BIOs

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 7:43 PM

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I'm scared the RMA won't work because I don't have the anti-static bag for it.

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Am I going to the right place for BIOS as well?

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Search motherboard name and put BIOS after it in Google?

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 7:50 PM

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The manufacture should have it

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Just go to manufacture page, search for the exact board, and there’s a section of drivers to download

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 7:53 PM

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Do I install both BIOS and Firmware?

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And whatever Intel ME is?

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Or is Firmware and Intel ME not relevant currently?

grand ivy Jun 20, 2020, 8:11 PM

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dont build pcs when you're like a snowman in arizona

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 8:17 PM

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if you're worried about anti-static bags, just order like, 10 from ebay, for like $00.75/each.

abstract kite Jun 20, 2020, 8:19 PM

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Those are expensive

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 8:20 PM

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then find them cheaper for me.

grand ivy Jun 20, 2020, 8:24 PM

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Ofc they're expensive

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a whole 7.50

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he aint made of money you know?

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 8:25 PM

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5 of em?

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10 seems kind of a big number ish, you’re definitely not going to be seeing a lot of use for me unless you’re sort of active in buying PC parts

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 8:27 PM

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Time to test memory after updating BIOS.

grand ivy Jun 20, 2020, 8:27 PM

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Are you seriosuly gonna start debating about how many are necessary

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 8:29 PM

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All I know is that almost no one is sitting on a shitload of PC parts

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In this chat

grand ivy Jun 20, 2020, 8:31 PM

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True that is a valid point, lets analyzed a bit further tho.... Alot of people in this chat are seeking advice on building pc's, so in their perspective they're new to this and might have allot of destroyed/used parts hence you can never know the true situation of their need of static resistant bags

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 8:31 PM

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well i happen to keep my antistatic bags when im done so its not like i need more.

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 8:31 PM

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Doesn't work. I guess I need to RMA the board.

grand ivy Jun 20, 2020, 8:32 PM

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What are the specs

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first of all

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 8:32 PM

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Mine?

grand ivy Jun 20, 2020, 8:32 PM

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Yes just say processor and motherboard and ram

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 8:33 PM

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8700k, Asus Z390-E, Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 3200MHz.

lilac geyser Jun 20, 2020, 8:33 PM

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did you buy the ram as a kit or 4 individual sticks?

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 8:33 PM

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2x8Gb ofc

grand ivy Jun 20, 2020, 8:33 PM

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i7 im guessing

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 8:33 PM

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It is i7 derp

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 8:34 PM

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4 8GB RAM sticks in a kit.

lilac geyser Jun 20, 2020, 8:34 PM

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ok good

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 8:34 PM

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I'm just angry and depressed that this is how my first build goes, receiving a defective part.

abstract kite Jun 20, 2020, 8:36 PM

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hey, i'm just gonna come here and ask, not going to be too much with IT, but i was talking to my friend, and he's telling me that despite having 16 gigs of RAM, GTFO is only seeing 1 gig. it's really peculiar to me, so i was wondering if anyone more tech savvy than i am might have input on this

late sorrel Jun 20, 2020, 8:36 PM

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hey, to be fair I got a shoddy 2600 on my first build

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 8:36 PM

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So should I go RMA the board now?

lilac geyser Jun 20, 2020, 8:36 PM

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the memory compatibility list only has the long form part number, what ram did you buy, like this: CMK16GX4M4B3866C18 ver4.24

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 8:37 PM

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Where do I find that? On the stick itself?

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 8:37 PM

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Yeah

lilac geyser Jun 20, 2020, 8:37 PM

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yeah or on the website you purchased from

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 8:37 PM

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Amazon.

lilac geyser Jun 20, 2020, 8:38 PM

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like, i guess double check all 4 sticks are the same, should be cause kit

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 8:39 PM

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Vengeance pro rgb is mainstream

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 8:39 PM

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CMW32GX4M4C3200C16W says the product page on Amazon.

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 8:39 PM

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should be compatible with everything pretty much

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Its just another shitty Asus board defect

#

fucking hate that company

knotty vault Jun 20, 2020, 8:40 PM

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I need help with my computer, I unplugged it and plugged it into a different wall outlet and now my computer starts but anything plugged into usb and monitor won’t work

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 8:40 PM

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You should only have to expect compatibility with correct double data rates

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 8:40 PM

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What board should I try buying instead?

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 8:41 PM

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Not Are Oh Gee

lilac geyser Jun 20, 2020, 8:41 PM

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so, that exact sku is not on the qualified ram list

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 8:41 PM

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preferably an Aorus board

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their z390 boards are god tier

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 8:41 PM

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Gigabyte Aorus, hm

late sorrel Jun 20, 2020, 8:41 PM

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I have a MSI board

lilac geyser Jun 20, 2020, 8:41 PM

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doesnt mean it wont work for sure, but they didnt check it with that board maybe

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 8:41 PM

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So I need to buy new RAM or a new motherboard?

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 8:41 PM

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Yeah he won’t be doing overclock or that sort of special doohickey, just a put together and play

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Motherboard

late sorrel Jun 20, 2020, 8:42 PM

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^

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 8:42 PM

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well im running an Aorus Master z390 with the ram you have and it works perfectly fine

lilac geyser Jun 20, 2020, 8:42 PM

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i mean the fact that 1 or 2 sticks worked mean that the ram is probably compatible right

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 8:42 PM

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Motherboard went poopoo on you

late sorrel Jun 20, 2020, 8:42 PM

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just return it, get a different board with similar specs

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 8:42 PM

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Yeah

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 8:42 PM

#

Can I even return it or will they reject it for missing some of the bags?

late sorrel Jun 20, 2020, 8:43 PM

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you should be able to return it

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 8:43 PM

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as long as you have the socket cover still in the board

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 8:43 PM

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Need all the things that came with the mobo

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Yeah

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 8:43 PM

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I still have the socket cover.

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 8:43 PM

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good

lilac geyser Jun 20, 2020, 8:43 PM

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will amazon even care about the bag?

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 8:43 PM

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no

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 8:43 PM

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Mobo, Soviet cover, anti static, original box, you’re good to go I guess

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Soviet cover

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 8:44 PM

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I left out the cds and stuff from an X570 box and they didnt care

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 8:44 PM

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no anti-static.

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chucked

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 8:44 PM

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So why keep poopoo anti static then?

#

Dummy amazon

#

PirateSimon

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 8:44 PM

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I dont think amazon checks or cares really

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 8:45 PM

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Can I even get a Gigabyte board anywhere?

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 8:45 PM

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newegg?

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 8:45 PM

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Amazon

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Newegg

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Your nearest microshit

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 8:45 PM

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hey dont diss on microshit

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https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813145091?Description=aorus z390 wifi&cm_re=aorus_z390_wifi-_-13-145-091-_-Product&quicklink=true

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boom

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 8:45 PM

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Micro center is cool

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 8:45 PM

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what do we have against macrocenter?

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 8:45 PM

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you're welcome

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 8:45 PM

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Microshit is microshit

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 8:46 PM

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At least they price match their shit

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 8:46 PM

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Mhm

late sorrel Jun 20, 2020, 8:46 PM

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I like microshit

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 8:46 PM

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but if you dont price match you're just getting scammed at that point lol

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 8:46 PM

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How do you store a processor and AIO if it has thermal paste on it?

late sorrel Jun 20, 2020, 8:46 PM

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leave it out to dry

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 8:46 PM

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you can just leave the processor on a table

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 8:46 PM

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Just got used to calling Microsoft microshit, guess it worked on micro center

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 8:47 PM

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cleam the aio block with paper towels or whatever

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 8:47 PM

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What happens when it dries?

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 8:47 PM

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You got spare thermal paste, can just wipe it off anyways

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 8:47 PM

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What do I wipe it off with?

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 8:47 PM

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just rub it off with rubbing alcohol and a cloth

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 8:47 PM

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doesnt even have to be that

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 8:48 PM

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Rub a lub dub

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Put it all back into the old case if you want, it’ll take forever for another order to come anyways

lilac geyser Jun 20, 2020, 8:48 PM

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might be worth calling asus support line, cause they may know something we don't

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 8:49 PM

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well if you order within an hour and 14 minutes you can have it on june 24 according to newegg

#

no dont bother with Ashit's support line

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 8:49 PM

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That’s forever

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 8:49 PM

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if you bought from amazon, dont bother with support line

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 8:50 PM

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just dont bother with Asus is what i've learned from experience

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 8:50 PM

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Or really, just don’t ever touch support line cause fuck all of them anyways

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Unless you’ve paid your kidneys to get it

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 8:51 PM

#

just return it and get a Z390 aorus pro wifi from newegg

knotty vault Jun 20, 2020, 8:51 PM

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Can anyone help me plz

#

I unplugged my computer and plugged it into a different wall outlet now my computer turns on but the usb and monitor won’t turn on

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 8:51 PM

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its cheaper than the Ashit board you got and better vrms

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No usb?

knotty vault Jun 20, 2020, 8:51 PM

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Nope

#

Mouse keyboard and monitor don’t work now

lilac geyser Jun 20, 2020, 8:51 PM

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is it worth enabling or disabling xmp and trying again?

knotty vault Jun 20, 2020, 8:52 PM

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Also headset

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 8:52 PM

#

did you turn off the power supply before you unplugged it?

knotty vault Jun 20, 2020, 8:52 PM

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No

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 8:52 PM

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well there buckaroo

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 8:52 PM

#

Should I clear CMOS?

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 8:52 PM

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just return it at this point

knotty vault Jun 20, 2020, 8:52 PM

#

What

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 8:52 PM

#

Return board

#

For you, turn off psu

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 8:52 PM

#

you should've turned off your power supply

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 8:53 PM

#

literally return it, we've thrown several gauntlets at it by this point shawn.

knotty vault Jun 20, 2020, 8:53 PM

#

Okay what do I do now

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 8:53 PM

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Probably let it sit s few seconds, then turn it back on

lilac geyser Jun 20, 2020, 8:53 PM

#

wait wtf the monitor is a separate plug right

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 8:54 PM

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Wack, ain’t it?

#

Must have fucked I/O

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 8:54 PM

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unless its some fancy thing getting powered by the display cable, yeah, separate.

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 8:54 PM

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monitor is plugged in through the display ports on a graphics card

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 8:54 PM

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But he didn’t turn off PSU, so we might as well see

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 8:54 PM

#

might have shorted somethin

lilac geyser Jun 20, 2020, 8:54 PM

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wtf i never turn off the psu before disconnecting from outlet

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 8:54 PM

#

bruh

lilac geyser Jun 20, 2020, 8:54 PM

#

i just shut down computer

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 8:54 PM

#

Lol

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 8:55 PM

#

we got a cool kid over here now dont we

#

lmao

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 8:55 PM

#

Haha

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 8:55 PM

#

im just glad PSUs dont have voltage switches much anymore

knotty vault Jun 20, 2020, 8:56 PM

#

Still not working

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 8:56 PM

#

It isn’t so much of a problem overall, but it’s kind of more safer to turn off psu beforehand any-

#

Well then

knotty vault Jun 20, 2020, 8:56 PM

#

Computer turns on but usbs and monitor isn’t working

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 8:56 PM

#

well if you cant see the thing booting then you dont know if it really has turned on

knotty vault Jun 20, 2020, 8:56 PM

#

True

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 8:56 PM

#

could be failing to post for some reason

knotty vault Jun 20, 2020, 8:57 PM

#

What can I do?

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 8:57 PM

#

is this a prebuilt?

knotty vault Jun 20, 2020, 8:57 PM

#

I built it

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 8:57 PM

#

tell us whats in it

#

@torn ferry https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813145091?Description=aorus z390 wifi&cm_re=aorus_z390_wifi-_-13-145-091-_-Product&quicklink=true

#

this is gonna be your best bet for a new motherboard

knotty vault Jun 20, 2020, 8:59 PM

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Gigabyte z390 aorus master, g skill 32bg of ram ddr4, 1tb ssd, 500gb ssd, 1080 ftw 2, 360mm nzxt liquid cooling, windows 10

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 8:59 PM

#

power supply?

#

also nice mb i have the same one

knotty vault Jun 20, 2020, 9:00 PM

#

850 watt evga

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 9:00 PM

#

CPU?

knotty vault Jun 20, 2020, 9:00 PM

#

I9 9900k

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 9:00 PM

#

wait hold on

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 9:00 PM

#

Got a GPU cheaper than a CPU

#

Kek

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 9:01 PM

#

your/our MB has a code display on the bottom

#

what numbers/letters is it flashing

#

If it is a successful boot it should be either A0 or 66

knotty vault Jun 20, 2020, 9:01 PM

#

I don’t see any numbers

#

📎 image0.jpg

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 9:02 PM

#

📎 image0.jpg

#

Oh buddy

#

That’s not good

knotty vault Jun 20, 2020, 9:02 PM

#

-.-

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 9:02 PM

#

Ay or us

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 9:03 PM

#

I regret getting this gpu

#

2070 super

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 9:03 PM

#

Lmfao

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 9:03 PM

#

cooling is shit

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 9:03 PM

#

Lol

knotty vault Jun 20, 2020, 9:03 PM

#

How bad is it honk

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 9:03 PM

#

Temps in load?

knotty vault Jun 20, 2020, 9:03 PM

#

Gonk

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 9:03 PM

#

Well what motherboard lights are on

#

temps sit in 45 at idle

#

out of the box it immediately went to 80 C

knotty vault Jun 20, 2020, 9:04 PM

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Just the 2 lights on the bottom right

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 9:04 PM

#

Lol fucking damn dude

#

Got myself the Gigabyte Windforce or gaming fucking whatever 3X fan, loads go for 55-65

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 9:05 PM

#

well if the ram is lighting up that means theres at least some power going through the mb

knotty vault Jun 20, 2020, 9:05 PM

#

The light that’s normally on over the shroud is off

#

📎 image0.jpg

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 9:05 PM

#

thats not a good sign

knotty vault Jun 20, 2020, 9:05 PM

#

Fuck

#

Should I call gigabyte

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 9:06 PM

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so theres absolutely no numbers showing up when you start it up

knotty vault Jun 20, 2020, 9:07 PM

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No none at all

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 9:07 PM

#

@fleet canopy why the fuck is a windforce outperforming my aorus one what the fuck is this bullshit

#

well yeah

#

I think its time to call them

knotty vault Jun 20, 2020, 9:08 PM

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Fuuuck k thank you

#

They’re closed

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 9:09 PM

#

of course they are

#

fuck

#

have you tried starting it through the power button on the back of the mobo

knotty vault Jun 20, 2020, 9:10 PM

#

Yes

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 9:10 PM

#

are the leds on those buttons lighting up?

knotty vault Jun 20, 2020, 9:10 PM

#

Yes

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 9:14 PM

#

Because Gigabyte epic 😎

#

Well my first GPU, a 1060 3GB was a Gigabyte, so I decided to go with them again

#

Hasn't failed me yet so far

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 9:14 PM

#

hey hey

#

same boat here

#

1060 6b gigabyte

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 9:15 PM

#

Kek

#

Anyone who even remotely had a 1060 or similar now has a 2070 Super

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 9:15 PM

#

Upgrade path 100

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 9:15 PM

#

Fucking hate how they made it kind of slower than the 1060 6GB

#

But who cares now

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 9:16 PM

#

Well Biowarfare

knotty vault Jun 20, 2020, 9:16 PM

#

Should I start taking pieces out of it to see if it’ll work? I’ll take the gpu out first I guess

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 9:16 PM

#

yeah

#

take it out and plug in your display into one on the motherboard io

#

see if onboard graphics is working

knotty vault Jun 20, 2020, 9:17 PM

#

K

#

No luck

#

I found something

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 9:27 PM

#

what did you find?

lilac geyser Jun 20, 2020, 9:28 PM

#

📎 iu.png

#

droids!

knotty vault Jun 20, 2020, 9:30 PM

#

📎 image0.jpg

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 9:31 PM

#

I think I have that too

knotty vault Jun 20, 2020, 9:31 PM

#

@spice tapir same spot?

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 9:32 PM

#

📎 image0.jpg

#

I believe so

knotty vault Jun 20, 2020, 9:32 PM

#

Yes you do

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 9:32 PM

#

I’m not saying you should do this

#

But there is a secondary bios on these boards

knotty vault Jun 20, 2020, 9:32 PM

#

📎 image0.jpg

#

Try switching it to secondary bios?

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 9:33 PM

#

Wait hold on

#

Those lights on the side

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The red one

knotty vault Jun 20, 2020, 9:33 PM

#

It’s for the cpu

#

📎 image0.jpg

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 9:34 PM

#

Oh is it stuck on cpu

knotty vault Jun 20, 2020, 9:35 PM

#

What does that mean

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 9:35 PM

#

means the boot failed due to cpu failure in some sort

#

doesnt mean the cpu is broken

knotty vault Jun 20, 2020, 9:36 PM

#

I sure hope not all I did was unplug it and plug it back in

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 9:36 PM

#

try and reseat the cpu and see if that does anything

#

just to be sure

knotty vault Jun 20, 2020, 9:38 PM

#

Take off the aio and reseat?

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 9:38 PM

#

yes

#

wait hold on a minute

knotty vault Jun 20, 2020, 9:39 PM

#

K

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 9:40 PM

#

someone else had this issue

#

same thing

#

Master z390 with 9900k

#

no lights except the orange and cpu light

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 9:41 PM

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Now is the hard part.

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 9:41 PM

#

I think your motherboard is just busted my friend

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 9:41 PM

#

How does any human remove the 24 pin once it's plugged in?

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 9:42 PM

#

clip on the right side of the 24 pin

#

push on it while taking it out

#

it will require a bit of force

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 9:42 PM

#

I got the RMA done, now I just need to dismantle the PC to get the motherboard out and into the box.

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 9:42 PM

#

@knotty vault im sorry to say but I think your Mobo has kicked the bucket

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 9:42 PM

#

I am, and my thumbs hurt since hard plastic clips don't go together with ergonomics and ease of installation.

#

I need help with this.😝

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 9:44 PM

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wiggle it while taking it out

lilac geyser Jun 20, 2020, 9:45 PM

#

im pretty sure i have used a screwdriver to help me pry a 24pin apart before

#

it can cause some cosmetic damage to the plastic

knotty vault Jun 20, 2020, 9:45 PM

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@spice tapir thanks I’ll do more research and I’ll call gigabyte Monday, hopefully get a replacement

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 9:46 PM

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Hope for the best

#

should still have a little warranty

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 9:46 PM

#

I really wish there were easier connectors for motherboards.

knotty vault Jun 20, 2020, 9:46 PM

#

You were very helpful thanks

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 9:46 PM

#

any time

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 9:47 PM

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I prefer old keyboard/mouse combo ports than this 24 pin shit.

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 9:47 PM

#

well maybe you should become an engineer and design a new motherboard power connector

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 9:48 PM

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Got it.

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 9:49 PM

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lmao

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 9:50 PM

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Now where can I store the CPU and AIO since they have thermal paste on them?

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 9:50 PM

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they can just sit around anywhere

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 9:50 PM

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Old PC

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 9:50 PM

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But doesn't thermal paste melt under heat?

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 9:50 PM

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No

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 9:50 PM

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Thats the job of thermal paste

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to not melt

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 9:51 PM

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To suppress the heat pretty much

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 9:51 PM

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I can't put the AIO on the old PC since it won't fit.

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 9:51 PM

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you can just clean the block with water and paper towel

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 9:51 PM

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Hm

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 9:51 PM

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and set it on a table

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 9:52 PM

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Or back in the box

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 9:52 PM

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I read somewhere water doesn't work too well in cleaning paste?

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 9:52 PM

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Its worked fine for me

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I've done it countless times

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only a smidge of water

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 9:52 PM

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if you have rubbing alcohol it also works

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you only need a very small amount at a time

lilac geyser Jun 20, 2020, 9:52 PM

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or acetone

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 9:53 PM

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acetone, sure, but man, i can hardly trust some people with water.

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 9:53 PM

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Isn't the AIO or CPU prone to failure if water spills on them?

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 9:53 PM

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cpu sure, but you're not rinsing the thing under the sink

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 9:54 PM

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the aio should be fine

lilac geyser Jun 20, 2020, 9:54 PM

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dont use that much, just wet a towel

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 9:54 PM

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few drops of water at a time is enough

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 9:54 PM

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Wet a towel

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Squeeze out the paper

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 9:54 PM

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yes, to wet a towel.

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 9:55 PM

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And it should be good

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 9:55 PM

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you ever just have an 8400 sitting on your desk

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 9:55 PM

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Can I keep the radiator mounted on the top since I intend it to stay that way?

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 9:55 PM

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Leave it in the PC if you want ig

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 9:55 PM

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if theres no clearance issue with taking the motherboard out

bright shard Jun 20, 2020, 9:55 PM

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yeah, it can probably stay where it is.

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 9:56 PM

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Might need to take it off when putting in mobo

lilac geyser Jun 20, 2020, 9:56 PM

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you mean an e8400 :)

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core 2 duo goodness

torn ferry Jun 20, 2020, 9:56 PM

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About 1-2 inches of clearance.

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 9:56 PM

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nah an i5-8400

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thing just kicked the bucket one day

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I have no clue why

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it just refuses to work now

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 9:57 PM

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f

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Now I must wonder if I should do B550

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 10:06 PM

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over X570?

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or what do you have

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 10:07 PM

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Over X570

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What I have doesn't matter, cause only the GPU and possibly CPU cooler is going to be kept

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 10:08 PM

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what cpu do you have/ are getting

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 10:09 PM

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The glorious ex-single threaded performer, 7700K, MSI Z270 Mark 2, 2x8GB DDR4-2400Mhz. Going to get a 4600 or a 4700X/4800X.

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 10:10 PM

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pretty much always go for X600 cpus

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best performance to price

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 10:11 PM

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Indeed

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Seeing how stuff is going like, 4600 is definitely bound to be much, much better than the 3600 or possibly event the XT variant

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 10:11 PM

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i got an 9700k cuz I felt like spoiling myself lmao

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the xt isnt worth it at all

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 10:12 PM

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Yeah lol

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Dunno how the XT is like, don't care anyways

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 10:12 PM

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exactly

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 10:12 PM

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Cause like, the regular 3600 is great

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The 3900X is great

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 10:12 PM

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3600 is fantastic for the price

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160-170 for a 6 core 12 thread cpu

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with a decent cooler

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hell yeah

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 10:13 PM

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So B550 does not have the PCIe 4.0 support, seems meh anyways, doesn't have SLI support either, it's dead

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 10:14 PM

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I've always wondered about sli

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seems like an interesting thing to try out one of these days

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 10:14 PM

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Better for workstation tbh

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Gaming, not so much

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 10:15 PM

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I guess i'll just have to wait 10+ years until a 2070 super costs much less

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then I could try

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lmao

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 10:15 PM

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Haha

spice tapir Jun 20, 2020, 10:15 PM

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yeah nv link with quadros

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rad

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 10:15 PM

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lmfao

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Ok wow the B550 is gonna be about 50$ more

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 10:17 PM

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B550 does have PCIe 4 support

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Just not on the chipset

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 10:18 PM

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Ah

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 10:18 PM

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Its through the CPU

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Its like how B450 only has PCIE gen 2 on the chipset

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But it still supports Gen 3 through the CPU

fleet canopy Jun 20, 2020, 10:18 PM

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I mean, I guess b550 is still kind of viable, but the price is pretty stupid to me

vapid crypt Jun 20, 2020, 10:19 PM

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Not really, it has VRMs that are on par with 700 dollar X570 boards generally