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abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 5:58 PM

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3080ti should cost not that much? XD

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wait nvm im retarded

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scratch what i said

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wait dont

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 5:58 PM

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Oh its easily gonna be the same price as the 2080ti

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 5:59 PM

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cause what im sensing is

torn ferry Jun 10, 2020, 5:59 PM

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$700 for the 10700k on Amazon.

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 5:59 PM

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Just look at the pricing now for Turing, and reflect it onto Ampere

torn ferry Jun 10, 2020, 5:59 PM

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Yes.

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 5:59 PM

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3080 is basically the new IN for mid end

fleet canopy Jun 10, 2020, 5:59 PM

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Just settle for a 3080

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 5:59 PM

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and gonna cost 500-600

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 5:59 PM

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No not Mid

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Its high end

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 5:59 PM

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3080ti

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no lemme say

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it

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it will make sense

fleet canopy Jun 10, 2020, 5:59 PM

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Basically 3080 and up is high end

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3070 and 3060 is mid

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 5:59 PM

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The 80 cards for a while has been using mid range dies technically

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 5:59 PM

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3080 mid end , 3080ti high end, 3090 top tier high end , new RTX TITAN

fleet canopy Jun 10, 2020, 6:00 PM

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They might do a 2660

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o

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:00 PM

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That doesn't make sense PirateSimon

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:00 PM

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xqcSad

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it does

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:00 PM

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They're all in the high end

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Mid range has never been 700 bucks I don't care how much Nvidia inflates prices

torn ferry Jun 10, 2020, 6:00 PM

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What PSU wattage would I need for 8700k and 2080?

fleet canopy Jun 10, 2020, 6:01 PM

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True

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Unless the price was really bad to consider it a high end

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:01 PM

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im basically talking about price names

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mid end is the new high end

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:01 PM

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I mean when the 2070 launched it was 600 for the FE model

torn ferry Jun 10, 2020, 6:01 PM

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Can you find what wattage the PSU is without opening the case or is there no app that tells you the wattage?

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:01 PM

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That's insane

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:02 PM

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700W is sweetspot

fleet canopy Jun 10, 2020, 6:02 PM

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750W

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:02 PM

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also i was basically saying

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700

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i was saying

fleet canopy Jun 10, 2020, 6:02 PM

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Boo

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:02 PM

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xD

fleet canopy Jun 10, 2020, 6:02 PM

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750W

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:02 PM

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700W

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:02 PM

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650W+ you won;t typically have issues running most things

fleet canopy Jun 10, 2020, 6:02 PM

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Also yeah you might have to open the side panel to look

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:02 PM

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Might want a bit more considering the new high end cards will draw over 300w

fleet canopy Jun 10, 2020, 6:03 PM

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750W

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:)

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:03 PM

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kk well im fucked then

torn ferry Jun 10, 2020, 6:03 PM

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When would you ever need anything above 1000?

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:03 PM

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im selling my pc

fleet canopy Jun 10, 2020, 6:03 PM

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Don't do it now fool

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:03 PM

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not now lol

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once the cards release

torn ferry Jun 10, 2020, 6:03 PM

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I assume 1000+ is for SLI builds?

fleet canopy Jun 10, 2020, 6:03 PM

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1000W for like

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:03 PM

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That's if you're trying to keep efficiency curves at a maximum or something, or for High End desktop builds

fleet canopy Jun 10, 2020, 6:03 PM

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For pretty overkill stuff yeah

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:04 PM

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welp

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:04 PM

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Also SLI is conceivably dead, the second card does nothing outside of certain tasks

torn ferry Jun 10, 2020, 6:04 PM

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Let's see if Best Buy has any PSUs.

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I heard SLI makes the system more unstable.

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:05 PM

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how much is 3080ti gonna actually waste power

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xd

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says 350W

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but i doubt

torn ferry Jun 10, 2020, 6:05 PM

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Gamdias makes PSUs, what?

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:05 PM

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as my 1070 OCED is like 301W

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:05 PM

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From recent leaks its TDP is 320W, TDP isn't the same as energy used

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So it would be higher than that

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:05 PM

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see now im kinda fucked here right

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i have 650W gold

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:05 PM

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So yeah something like 350w or 375w

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:05 PM

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if i go for a new card

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right

torn ferry Jun 10, 2020, 6:05 PM

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What should I have if I intend to upgrade to 3000 series GPU when it releases?

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:06 PM

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750W+

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Well for at least the 3080

torn ferry Jun 10, 2020, 6:06 PM

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Best Buy is trolling me.

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:06 PM

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so if i got for the new card, and my current psu is not gonna be enough im fucked... no one would wanna buy my pc...

torn ferry Jun 10, 2020, 6:06 PM

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There is no way a Corsair RMx 850W PSU is available now to be shipped.

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:06 PM

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Just replace the power supply

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:06 PM

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if i sell my pc right... i probs will have a hussle

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see

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i dont have money

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no need to shit talk me for having money for gpu and not psu

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im aware of it

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:07 PM

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I mean yes

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:07 PM

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the only reason why i went for 650W gold is cause i thought it wouldnt matter for new gpu releases

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:07 PM

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I have a 750W so If I really wanted I could get anything, but I don't intend to ever go for a high end card

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:08 PM

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im going only for a 3080 to play most games at ultra at 120 fps or more

torn ferry Jun 10, 2020, 6:08 PM

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How do I know if the RMx I am looking at is the 2018 or 2019 model?

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:08 PM

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RMx is 2018 RM is 2019

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:08 PM

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the model pictures are fucked up i know

torn ferry Jun 10, 2020, 6:08 PM

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Is RMx still good?

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:08 PM

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Sure

fleet canopy Jun 10, 2020, 6:09 PM

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I had to opt getting a 850W because 750W is price gouged atm

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lol

torn ferry Jun 10, 2020, 6:09 PM

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Can you paint a PSU without damaging it given you cover the fan, power plug, and connector ports?

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:09 PM

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Why even bother?

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:09 PM

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im probs gonna go for 850W if i get new pc build

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:10 PM

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You won't see it unless you have the rear of the case constantly in view

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:10 PM

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ryzen 4900x + 3080ti + 32 gb ram is my new build if i were to sell my pc

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xD

torn ferry Jun 10, 2020, 6:11 PM

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Are the Riing Quad fans good?

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:11 PM

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go for corsair fans

fleet canopy Jun 10, 2020, 6:12 PM

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LL120 are great

torn ferry Jun 10, 2020, 6:12 PM

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QL fans "In Stock on June 18".

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:15 PM

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btw if i get only NVME

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of like 1 tb

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it wont slow down if i fill it up right

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:15 PM

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Depends on the drive

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:15 PM

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well samsung one

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PRO

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nvme 2.0 pro

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thingy

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3500 / 3500

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:15 PM

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I believe they use high quality nand that doesn't slow down based on capacity

torn ferry Jun 10, 2020, 6:15 PM

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Do I just need LL120 fans and not the QL120 fans?

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:16 PM

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oki

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:16 PM

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The cheaper NVMEs do slow down a bit when filled up

sick reef Jun 10, 2020, 6:16 PM

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It will always get slower when it fills up, just not by the margin that poor quality one's do.

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:16 PM

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i noticed my samsung 850 evo

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slowed down quite a bit

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but might be limited due to HDD + SSD

fleet canopy Jun 10, 2020, 6:16 PM

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Any 2.5" will

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But it really, really doesn't matter

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Cause you're literally never going to fill that up entirely unless you can't really manage to keep it like 100GB free

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:17 PM

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i dont plan to fill it up entirely

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sec

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:17 PM

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Right

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:17 PM

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@brisk badger thnx!

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is 1TB gonna be enough then

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:18 PM

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I haven't exceeded like 40% on my drive

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:18 PM

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lets say i just like have SSD

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thats a nice setup u got

fleet canopy Jun 10, 2020, 6:18 PM

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I need like another terabyte

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:18 PM

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Any size could be enough

fleet canopy Jun 10, 2020, 6:18 PM

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Poor me, never uninstalling games like ever

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:18 PM

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If you're willing to constantly reinstall stuff PirateSimon

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:18 PM

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XD

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i only play like

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Rocket league, r6s, tarkov

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gtfo

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etc

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so like overall 5-6 games?

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me: sims

fleet canopy Jun 10, 2020, 6:19 PM

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I barely play a lot of games, yet I have so many I leave installed

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Makes my steam library feel a lot less empty

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:19 PM

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I tend to move games to the HDD if I'm not playing it as much anymore

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:19 PM

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same here

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but HDD is so fucking slow mann

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XD

fleet canopy Jun 10, 2020, 6:20 PM

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HDD lol

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It's pretty neat

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:20 PM

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🤢

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i literally payed 200$ for 850 Evo

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cause i was a fking idiot

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:20 PM

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With enough Cache its no big deal

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Especially since the Hard drive doesn't have the OS on it

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So it won't have that slowing it down

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:21 PM

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what do you mean cache

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how can i cache it

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or checl

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i dont think i have cache on it

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:21 PM

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Hard Drives naturally have Cache on them

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:21 PM

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think i deleted it or smth

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:21 PM

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So after loading something off the drive once, it will use that cache to load it up faster next time

fleet canopy Jun 10, 2020, 6:22 PM

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Samsung evo is really not what you wanna go with overall comparing price/performance

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:22 PM

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ooooh

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ok lemme check the price

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how much 1tb would cost me

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of nvme pro

fleet canopy Jun 10, 2020, 6:22 PM

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Uhh

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200$ I think

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Too much

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:22 PM

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Uh should be over 100 bucks

fleet canopy Jun 10, 2020, 6:22 PM

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Way over 100$

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I see 1TB nvme for 100$ usually

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:23 PM

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Well the Sabrent Rocket is 149 at 1tb

fleet canopy Jun 10, 2020, 6:23 PM

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But I remember the pro is like 100$

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Those are like pretty good drives

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There is like the P1

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:23 PM

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They have the Rocket Q for like 120 or something

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That uses lower quality nand though

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:24 PM

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oof

fleet canopy Jun 10, 2020, 6:24 PM

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They're just too much overall

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:25 PM

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didnt expect this much of a price XD

fleet canopy Jun 10, 2020, 6:25 PM

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Because samsung is a fucking money whore

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:25 PM

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ok whats on par with 970 evo pro

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:25 PM

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They have the best memory so there's your premium

torn ferry Jun 10, 2020, 6:25 PM

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Are the Samsung M.2s even good?

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:25 PM

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07LGF54XR/ref=twister_B085GG5QDR?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

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That's a solid alternative

fleet canopy Jun 10, 2020, 6:25 PM

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They're very good, they're overprice though imo

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:25 PM

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^

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:25 PM

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They have a pcie-4 model as well

fleet canopy Jun 10, 2020, 6:26 PM

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Literally the only reason why I dislike Samsung

brisk badger Jun 10, 2020, 6:26 PM

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What drive is the best for random read/write speed?

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:26 PM

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https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Internal-Extreme-Performance-SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-1TB/dp/B07TLYWMYW/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=rocket+4&qid=1591813560&s=electronics&sr=1-1

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:26 PM

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sabrent wont slow down right

fleet canopy Jun 10, 2020, 6:26 PM

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You can just go buy a QVO though

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You're not gonna fill your drive fully, yeah?

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:26 PM

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bad news

fleet canopy Jun 10, 2020, 6:26 PM

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Cause if not, then don't even worry about that

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:26 PM

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i only have these

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avaliable

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over my boss

fleet canopy Jun 10, 2020, 6:26 PM

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GWjianWut

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:26 PM

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They use quality nand I'm more than certain

fleet canopy Jun 10, 2020, 6:26 PM

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Intel P1

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:26 PM

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No Intel doesn't make the p1

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That's Crucial

fleet canopy Jun 10, 2020, 6:27 PM

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Oh yeha

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Still pretty good

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:27 PM

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And p1 is good, but its cheaper quality

fleet canopy Jun 10, 2020, 6:27 PM

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Literally don't pay for the stupid overpriced drives

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Just get P1

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:27 PM

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I have the 660p from Intel

fleet canopy Jun 10, 2020, 6:27 PM

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You're only gonna game on it anywyas

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:27 PM

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@vapid crypt pick the best quality and price in between those

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like smth thats not 200$ XD

fleet canopy Jun 10, 2020, 6:27 PM

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Literally you could just compare loading with an M.2 and 2.5", no fucking difference

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:27 PM

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Those are just brands

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:28 PM

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yes

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pick a brand

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i dont have sebrent

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:28 PM

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I mean I could look through I suppose

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:28 PM

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cause if i had

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i would buy sabrent

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but its not there

fleet canopy Jun 10, 2020, 6:28 PM

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Just buy P1 1TB and call it a day

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:28 PM

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i dont want smth thats low quality

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xD

fleet canopy Jun 10, 2020, 6:28 PM

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No care

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:28 PM

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but i also dont want top notch

fleet canopy Jun 10, 2020, 6:28 PM

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It's no difference in gaming

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:28 PM

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nah gaming is fine

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im talking about

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overall performance

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during first yr

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and next yrs

fleet canopy Jun 10, 2020, 6:29 PM

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Overall performance, hm

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:29 PM

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Muppy trying to get you to buy low quality stuff

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cause my pc is slow af

fleet canopy Jun 10, 2020, 6:29 PM

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lmnao

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Shut

brisk badger Jun 10, 2020, 6:29 PM

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I am looking for a (ssd) drive to host multiple OS's. So I want the highest possible random read and write speed. I don't find a good comparison or chart. I am not looking for the normal throughput (sequentiel read and write)
Anyone knows more? I think Intel Optane are the best in this regard?

fleet canopy Jun 10, 2020, 6:31 PM

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Samsung Evo Plus @brisk badger

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:31 PM

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Intel has a 665p but I have no idea how that performs from 660p

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:31 PM

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I'm out. I don't speak Basic Rocket Science

fleet canopy Jun 10, 2020, 6:31 PM

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Course, it's pretty expensive

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:32 PM

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Hang on what was your budget?

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Just not 200?

fleet canopy Jun 10, 2020, 6:32 PM

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Oh it looks like it's 130$ for that

brisk badger Jun 10, 2020, 6:32 PM

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hmm, I just found this

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https://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph13761/burst-rr.png

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from: https://www.anandtech.com/show/13761/the-samsung-970-evo-plus-ssd-review/6

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:32 PM

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well im willing to give like upto 200$

brisk badger Jun 10, 2020, 6:32 PM

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yea, looks like I found the missing hardware

fleet canopy Jun 10, 2020, 6:33 PM

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Get a 2TB Samsung QVO I guess @abstract kite

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:33 PM

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tf is QVO

fleet canopy Jun 10, 2020, 6:33 PM

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EVO but little less powerful

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Still should be pretty great

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:34 PM

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bruv

fleet canopy Jun 10, 2020, 6:34 PM

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"The QVO uses a cache to help speed up performance with write operations, but when that cache becomes saturated it gets very slow. The EVO operates in a similar way, but then the bottleneck hits you don't notice as drastic a drop in performance."

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:34 PM

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i can just stay with my 870 EVo

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xD

torn ferry Jun 10, 2020, 6:35 PM

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If I am using a 360mm radiator and 6 120mm fans for the other slots, how should each one be oriented?

fleet canopy Jun 10, 2020, 6:35 PM

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You're not going to fill up the whole goddamn thing anyways

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:35 PM

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wait maybeee

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i can buy sabrent

torn ferry Jun 10, 2020, 6:35 PM

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Isn't it top radiator blowing down, then side and bottom as exhaust?

fleet canopy Jun 10, 2020, 6:35 PM

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Depends on the case

torn ferry Jun 10, 2020, 6:35 PM

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For the O11 Dynamic XL.

fleet canopy Jun 10, 2020, 6:35 PM

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For mine with O11 Dynamic, I pretty much have it going up

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Intake on bottom, top is exhaust, side radiator is intake

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:36 PM

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Okay I'd say get the WD SN750

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If you had to pick from one of those brands

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:37 PM

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there are like

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red black green blue

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:37 PM

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WD Black SN750

torn ferry Jun 10, 2020, 6:37 PM

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@fleet canopy am I correct? Intake is blowing inside the case, and exhaust is blowing outside the case?

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:37 PM

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ah i see it

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im gonna try to get sabrent tho

fleet canopy Jun 10, 2020, 6:37 PM

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Yeah

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:38 PM

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They're both the same price

torn ferry Jun 10, 2020, 6:38 PM

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I was thinking top radiator placement intake, side intake, and bottom exhaust?

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:38 PM

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sabrent looking kinda fire tho

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😄

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im still a graphic biach

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or looks

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considering the parts

eternal cairn Jun 10, 2020, 6:38 PM

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It's better if bottom is intake.

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:38 PM

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Hmmm

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Top Exhaust is best

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Heat rises

eternal cairn Jun 10, 2020, 6:38 PM

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Top is exhaust.

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:39 PM

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Mount the rad on the side

eternal cairn Jun 10, 2020, 6:39 PM

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As for the side, you can do whatever.

torn ferry Jun 10, 2020, 6:39 PM

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I don't know if I should find QL fans since most of the fans will be exhaust it seems.

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:39 PM

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im deff gonna need a new pc then lel

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:39 PM

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Intake bottom, exhaust top

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Um I don't know what's the best take for a rad in that case

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:39 PM

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360mm mounted on front

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blowing it to the top

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:40 PM

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I guess intake?

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:40 PM

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y a s

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im going for that

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:40 PM

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You could do push/pull intake

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:40 PM

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gonna mount my kraken x73 on front

eternal cairn Jun 10, 2020, 6:40 PM

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If there's a slot on the side for a radiator, use that. If not, use the top.

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:42 PM

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vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:44 PM

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Oh yeah I just found out that Phanteks budget brand Metallicgear, they made a ripoff O11 Dynamic phaWesker

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https://www.newegg.com/white-metallic-gear-neo-qube-dual-chamber-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811700009

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:44 PM

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im probs not going with corsair 570x

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xD

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so fucking muchh mannn

fleet canopy Jun 10, 2020, 6:44 PM

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kek

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:45 PM

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xqcTL

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:47 PM

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I'm more of a fan of the P120 Crystal though, its an o11 but different PirateSimon

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abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:47 PM

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if i had the place

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i would go for it if its cheap

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:47 PM

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Its like 100 bucks

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:47 PM

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i need smth in dimensions of zalman z11 plus

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or a bit larger than it

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:48 PM

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I didn't even know Zalman made cases

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:49 PM

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xD

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ah dw

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they dont anymore

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XDDDDDD

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:49 PM

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I only know them cause they make uh heatsinks

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I guess a while back they made a pretty good one... albeit weird looking

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:50 PM

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any good corsair 570x alternatives

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:50 PM

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abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:50 PM

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oof air

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no ty

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xD

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never ever

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EVER

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never

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i have 0 trust in them

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:50 PM

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In Zalman?

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:50 PM

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no overall air cooling

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xD

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:51 PM

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Oh why is that?

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:51 PM

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i had coolermaster hyperx 212evo

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and my 7700k melted

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on idle it was 60c

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:51 PM

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That sounds like a different issue altogether

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:51 PM

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it probs was

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:51 PM

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And the 212 evo isn't the end all be all of Air cooling

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 6:51 PM

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cause i had that pc pre bought

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 6:52 PM

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Its prolific for its good performance at a low price, that's about it

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Now you can get cheaper coolers that perform better

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And naturally the bigger more expensive coolers are really good

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 7:03 PM

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any good corsair 570x alternative cases

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that cost like 100$-150$

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 7:04 PM

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Hmm

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I suppose the 565X

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err

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465X*

abstract kite Jun 10, 2020, 7:06 PM

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pog

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nice i can get it for like 110€

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which is not at all expensive

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looks good

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how good is it at air control tho

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 7:13 PM

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Air Flow is fine, its not out of this world; but it won't choke the system or anything

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC-4AK8FyzM

torn ferry Jun 10, 2020, 7:16 PM

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I can't find the white 465x anywhere.

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Can anyone else find it?

torn ferry Jun 10, 2020, 7:53 PM

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What is the differenced between the 460x and the 570x?

lilac geyser Jun 10, 2020, 8:42 PM

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about 110x

sick reef Jun 10, 2020, 8:44 PM

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460? I thought it was just 450 and 470.

torn ferry Jun 10, 2020, 10:19 PM

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There's a 460x, the 570x, the iCue 465x, and the Crystal 680x.

sick reef Jun 10, 2020, 10:27 PM

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Oh right, cases.

torn ferry Jun 10, 2020, 10:29 PM

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All of the cases seem to have an issue with RAM clearance though when trying to mount a top AIO.

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Is anyone able to find the 465x anywhere?

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@fleet canopy I just found the worst price gouging ever.

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ROG Helios PC, anyone?

📎 ROG_Tax.png

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They're charging $4000 for an RTX 2080 and 9700k build.

strong whale Jun 10, 2020, 10:52 PM

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USD?

fleet canopy Jun 10, 2020, 10:53 PM

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Uhh

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That's just really bad

strong whale Jun 10, 2020, 10:53 PM

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review bomb incoming lol

torn ferry Jun 10, 2020, 10:53 PM

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USD.

strong whale Jun 10, 2020, 10:53 PM

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you already finna know people will still buy it at that price

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 10:58 PM

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"$4000 Pc wow I bet it will last 10 years!" - Someone who doesn't understand PCs

fleet canopy Jun 10, 2020, 10:59 PM

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That sounds more like sarcasm

vapid crypt Jun 10, 2020, 10:59 PM

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Which now that I say that Timmy Joe did a video covering that exact sort of topic

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And he looked back on a 10 year old PC that cost 5 grand

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5 grand Canadian so https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NIJchm2zzo

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PirateSimon

proper wren Jun 11, 2020, 2:19 AM

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https://www.tomshardware.com/news/rumored-nvidia-rtx-3080-photo-shows-off-wacky-heatsink

vapid crypt Jun 11, 2020, 4:44 AM

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That doesn't stop it from functioning, but basically 3 pin connector stops you from controlling the speed of the fan

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I think it just runs at full speed

eternal cairn Jun 11, 2020, 4:50 AM

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I think a 4-pin connector is for AIOs.

vapid crypt Jun 11, 2020, 4:54 AM

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Um I don't think that would change anything as far as overheating is concerned

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Is it the GPU that's overheating?

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Yeah I wouldn't mess with that, what are your temperatures in the first place?

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If you don't know what's overheating you can't solve it

eternal cairn Jun 11, 2020, 5:13 AM

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Check the temps on HWMonitor.

brisk badger Jun 11, 2020, 5:14 AM

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Verify first if your pc actually is overheating before doing the next steps

fleet canopy Jun 11, 2020, 5:27 AM

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MSI Afterburner has a built in temperature monitor

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So you could turn it on, go to a game that has some benchmark mode, and run that

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It's also a bonus to put in CPU/GPU loads as well

abstract kite Jun 11, 2020, 6:14 AM

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my game started lagging and now it just keeps kicking me out when i try to rejoin

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restarted pc and router, still not working

fleet canopy Jun 11, 2020, 6:15 AM

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Is this the first time happening?

abstract kite Jun 11, 2020, 6:15 AM

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yes

fleet canopy Jun 11, 2020, 6:16 AM

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#gtfo-technical-support should be better

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdgNEXpBrfg

clear quartz Jun 11, 2020, 7:01 AM

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oh boi unreal engine 5 looks good

fleet canopy Jun 11, 2020, 7:01 AM

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Yeah

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Shits on console tho

clear quartz Jun 11, 2020, 7:02 AM

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doubt it'll impide the glorious PC master race

fleet canopy Jun 11, 2020, 7:02 AM

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Hah

brisk badger Jun 11, 2020, 7:27 AM

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Consoles is what hold technology back. Without them, games and hardware would be much more advanced

worn rock Jun 11, 2020, 7:27 AM

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need 1 more plz

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fiest level

merry bay Jun 11, 2020, 8:40 AM

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SSD's being standard on next-gen consoles gives relief for all the various forms of "loading corridors" I was forced into

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where you can tell there's no content, but they're there to hold you hostage for a little bit.
Some games are just simple doors that won't open until it's loaded or adaptive animations that slow down if it's not loaded in fully.

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found myself speedhacking in many singleplayer games in order to get past similar things. So nice to skip fluff sometimes

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in a lot of cases decent PC's are loaded in way before those "loading corridors" are done keeping you hostage, hence speedhacking

sick reef Jun 11, 2020, 8:58 AM

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3-pin connector for fans are 12V, ground, and tachometer.
4-pin connector for fan are 12V, ground, tachometer, and PWM.
3-pin connectors are controlled by varying the 12V feed. 4-pin connectors are controlled via the PWM signal.

sick reef Jun 11, 2020, 12:56 PM

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Having to solder cables onto connectors for them, you try make certain you get them right so nothing bad happens.

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Fun fact of the day:
Fans needs a certain voltage to start spinning. Effective power range for a 3-pin is around 40%-100%, and isn't linear to fan speed.
Effective power range for a 4-pin is 0-100%, and works often linearly to fan speed.
This is because PWM means that it feeds 12V in pulse waves on intervals.

You can simulate PWM function on a 3-pin fan by feeding it 12V, then controlling that feed with a Pulse wave simulating controller. This often does not work at the high frequencies of a 4-pin fan, and will be perceptibly/audibly oscillate, but it gives you more control over the 3-pin fan output without having to replace it.

brisk badger Jun 11, 2020, 1:14 PM

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are all fans 12v? I remember having 9volt fans or I think of something else

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probably 12v is normal

sick reef Jun 11, 2020, 1:27 PM

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12V is the norm for computer fans, but you can have fans run between I think 1-48V.

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A fan connector on a controller or motherboard will output 12V max.

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Another benefit of 4-pin is that you can control the fan separately from where you feed it.

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You can connect a lower voltage output to a higher voltage fan without anything breaking. But you can't connect a higher voltage output to a lower voltage fan, as that will most likely kill the fan, and eventually short a fuse in the motherboard.

brisk badger Jun 11, 2020, 1:37 PM

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hmm may sound stupid but how does the mainboard or the output know if this a 12volt fan or 9v etc

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i assume the mobo can varry the voltage output?

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or is that fix 12volt

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< bad when it comes to electricity

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< works for the company representing all electricians in the country

sick reef Jun 11, 2020, 1:40 PM

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It usually doesn't. It is only possible to vary the Voltage this with a DC controller, 3-pin.
A 4-pin will feed 12V constantly on the power line.
You could probably run a 9V fan on 12V, but it's similar to overclocking. And it's also not guaranteed to work.
It can interpret Tachometer values, but that in turn depends on what kind of a tachometer it is. Two-lap, or one-lap, and as you imagine, you can get half value, real value, or double value, depending on if it interprets it wrong.

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The motherboard will only measure the power the fan pulls, when it comes to how it varies voltages. So if the fan shorts, it will safety break the power to the fan by a permanent, or resettable, fuse.

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also kek

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But yeah, it depends fully on how the motherboard handles the fans. If it only does PWM, it will always feed 12V. If only does DC, it will vary depending on the settings.
Most often, on a connection that can automatically be either PWM or DC, it looks for if it detects a PWM signal as to which mode it sets itself to.

brisk badger Jun 11, 2020, 1:47 PM

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I have an usb to molex cable. On the molex I have 1-3 fans attached. Am I crazy?

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don't know how much the usb charger can deliver

sick reef Jun 11, 2020, 1:47 PM

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Internal usb or usb a?

brisk badger Jun 11, 2020, 1:48 PM

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it's a charger, like for phones

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it's a 3 usb port though and all are free but one

sick reef Jun 11, 2020, 1:49 PM

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USB provides 5V, and the amperage is dependent on the limit of the adapter itself.

brisk badger Jun 11, 2020, 1:49 PM

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but that would be okay right? Fans would just spin much slower

sick reef Jun 11, 2020, 1:50 PM

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The amperage is in turn the voltage of output, divided by the internal resistance of the fan.

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Yeah, it should be fine. I think you would be hard pressed to even hit 0.2-0.3A.

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If the fans are 12V to begin with.

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It should say on the charger how many amperages it delivers.

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Like "Max x amp"

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Molex is 12V, ground, ground, 5V, so you're probably only even using 2 pins of that molex adapter.

brisk badger Jun 11, 2020, 1:52 PM

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i can tell when at home, I don't remember now

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yea 2 pins only

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had to be creative, needed pc fans outside of a pc case 😛

sick reef Jun 11, 2020, 1:52 PM

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It's amusing, because purely technically, it's 12V, 5V ground, 12V ground, 5V.

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Yeah, it shouldn't be too bad. I assume it's not any even close to power hungry fans.

brisk badger Jun 11, 2020, 1:53 PM

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is there any devices that use molex today anymore?

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can only think of old drives and dvd or cd drives

sick reef Jun 11, 2020, 1:53 PM

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I'm not really certain. It's a good connector, though, because you can get 3 values from it without messing about too much.

brisk badger Jun 11, 2020, 1:54 PM

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it is. a bit fat but good and it sat tight once connected

sick reef Jun 11, 2020, 1:54 PM

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I think SATA power only runs 12V and ground, with some data lines.

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Yeah, it's a good connector. I was talking about how you can pull 5V, 7V, and 12V from it, so you could actually create a basic 3 stage fan controller from a regular molex, with a few couplings.

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Ah, no Sata power actually has all three internal voltage values, so it would technically have more options.

brisk badger Jun 11, 2020, 1:56 PM

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oh! how do you achieve 7v?

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i assume by some magic substraction: 12v -5v

sick reef Jun 11, 2020, 1:56 PM

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You connect the device from the 5V into the 12V.

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Kind of

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It's weird stuff I used to do math on in school, but it is, since there is a resistance between them, not a short.

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The difference in voltages being, yeah 7V. There is a lot of this when you work with 3-phase, not to mention phase shifting.

fallow shard Jun 11, 2020, 2:01 PM

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Hi, I just wanna say GTFO currently runs beautifully using Proton(Valve) on Ubuntu <3
Just in case people were considering giving it a shot

grand ivy Jun 11, 2020, 2:59 PM

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Gtfo runs decent on a samsung smart fridge

brisk badger Jun 11, 2020, 3:16 PM

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It runs linux so its not impossible

stable wyvern Jun 11, 2020, 4:38 PM

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Hi, I just wanna say GTFO currently runs beautifully using Proton(Valve) on Ubuntu <3
Just in case people were considering giving it a shot
@fallow shard what distro, which version of proton, and what workarounds? The unity engine would always crash on all versions of proton. Had most up to date kernels (via ukuu) and using padoka ppa

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It was same result with the oibaf ppa. Could never even get the game to to load screen

fallow shard Jun 11, 2020, 4:40 PM

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uname -a
Linux mbox 5.4.0-33-generic #37-Ubuntu SMP Thu May 21 12:53:59 UTC 2020 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

running proton 5.0-8

edit:

lsb_release -a
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID:    Ubuntu
Description:    Ubuntu 20.04 LTS
Release:    20.04
Codename:    focal

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worked out of box honestly

stable wyvern Jun 11, 2020, 4:44 PM

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Interesting. I had it on a fresh install of mint 19.3, kernel 5.7, and latest updates for padoka/oibaf (tested separately). Unity engine would start, then silent crash to desktop

fallow shard Jun 11, 2020, 4:44 PM

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oh, hardware ig if that matters? i7-4790k - gtx 1070 w/ nvidia-driver-440

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oh thats weird

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what gpu/drivers are you using?

stable wyvern Jun 11, 2020, 4:45 PM

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Tested it using every single version of proton except the new 5.0 one since it wasn't out yet.

Threadripper 1950x
Vega 64 8GB
Padoka ppa (first test)
Oibaf ppa (second test)

fallow shard Jun 11, 2020, 4:45 PM

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aaaah gotcha, that might do it(not sure ngl, but possibly)

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yeah im not sure about those amd drivers but idk, im sorry, i wish i could've been more of a help. I'm sure there are other amd peeps that know more than I do that can help you though!

vapid crypt Jun 11, 2020, 4:57 PM

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Um though I do have an AMD card, I am unfamiliar with their implementation in Linux distros. I've always heard the drivers were better on Linux though.

brisk badger Jun 11, 2020, 4:58 PM

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people running games through linux are (crazy) heroes

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okay proton made it easier but still

vapid crypt Jun 11, 2020, 4:59 PM

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Its certainly advanced further since 5 years ago I'm sure

brisk badger Jun 11, 2020, 5:00 PM

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yep with proton it's definitely better.
Still sometimes spending an hour or two installing a driver

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which could be my inability ofc

vapid crypt Jun 11, 2020, 5:00 PM

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If it gets to a point where there's almost no issue I would consider just using a linux distro exclusively

brisk badger Jun 11, 2020, 5:01 PM

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it has both pros and cons. Windows IMO is still okay for home usage/ to play games etc

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it really is more the company that sucks not the product (anymore)

vapid crypt Jun 11, 2020, 5:01 PM

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Anyway to rule out any driver problems, I think its pretty universal to just wipe drivers and re-install

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That tends to solve driver problems

stable wyvern Jun 11, 2020, 5:46 PM

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The oibaf and padoka ppa are the latest builds of the mesa drivers for AMD cards. I tested it doing a fresh install of 19.3 and installed the drivers from oibaf, updated everything, downloaded gtfo, then tried to run it using each version of proton. Unity engine silent crashes to desktop.

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I clean wiped the drive, reinstalled 19.3, installed padoka ppa drivers, then repeated the process. Unity engine still silent crashes to desktop. No errors generated

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I was linux but had to dual boot windows to play GTFO

vapid ice Jun 11, 2020, 8:20 PM

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70

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+7+7474444444

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+.3

abstract kite Jun 11, 2020, 8:57 PM

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GTFO runs great on Arch Linux with the non-free Nvidia drivers!

torn ferry Jun 11, 2020, 8:57 PM

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How much of a difference are Cherry MX Speed switches from Brown?

vapid crypt Jun 11, 2020, 8:58 PM

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Speed switches are tactile with faster travel time right?

torn ferry Jun 11, 2020, 8:58 PM

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1.2mm compared to 2mm.

vapid crypt Jun 11, 2020, 8:58 PM

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Well there's your difference right?

torn ferry Jun 11, 2020, 8:58 PM

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But how does it feel?

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Is it a whole new experience that is hard to get used to?

vapid crypt Jun 11, 2020, 8:59 PM

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No idea, you can buy a sample kit to test it

torn ferry Jun 11, 2020, 8:59 PM

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Cause I'm unsure if I should just buy the K70 MK.2 that is white or just buy Corsair's White PBT Doubleshot Keycaps to put on my K95.

sick reef Jun 11, 2020, 10:13 PM

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It feels off.

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I never got used to them.

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I often accidentally rested my fingers on them, without noticing.

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Didn't make too much of a difference for games. I couldn't get the accuracy I wanted.

vapid crypt Jun 11, 2020, 10:17 PM

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I've only ever used Outemu Blue switches, can't say I would prefer to try something else

abstract kite Jun 11, 2020, 10:42 PM

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Y'all seen the new 3080 cooler leak?

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I'm getting very interested in how this is going to work

late sorrel Jun 11, 2020, 10:44 PM

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yeah old news smh bears

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but yeah it looks cool

vapid crypt Jun 11, 2020, 10:45 PM

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TBF its a couple days old and we've been getting a steady stream of leaks this week

abstract kite Jun 11, 2020, 10:45 PM

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Tinted I'm not always here to chat lol

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At this point Nvidia might as well just go ahead and announce the card

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at this point they're just playing the waiting game to see how long they can hold out before Big Navi drops.

vapid crypt Jun 11, 2020, 10:48 PM

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Oh they're bracing for Big Navi

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GA 102 320W 3080 says it all

abstract kite Jun 11, 2020, 10:50 PM

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Still aiming for a 3080 if they don't fuck up the cooler and keep it competitively priced, but I'm open to seeing what AMD has in store with Big Navi.

vapid crypt Jun 11, 2020, 10:51 PM

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The cooler seems interesting, I still wouldn't be one to buy brand new hardware without letting any problems get fixed after some time though

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Unless I were making a brand new PC with nothing on hand or something

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We should hear official info about Big Navi in September

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Should be the same for Nvidia maybe

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Unless they have a chance earlier on

muted relic Jun 11, 2020, 11:14 PM

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My friend is looking for a 4K Build for Under or around $2,000 can anyone help with a list> ?

jade ermine Jun 11, 2020, 11:15 PM

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3600 - 16gb - B450 - 2080Ti

vapid crypt Jun 11, 2020, 11:31 PM

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I would wait until Q4 this year before building anything

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The 3080 is looking like a monster that will crush 4k and who knows what Big Navi holds. AMD already promised disrupting the 4k market earlier this year

proper wren Jun 11, 2020, 11:49 PM

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hmm

vapid crypt Jun 11, 2020, 11:55 PM

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If you're wondering why its that speed, I think Ryzen splits it between the two CCXs on the die

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Though that must not be XMP you should set it right away PirateSimon

proper wren Jun 12, 2020, 12:02 AM

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My computer

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was running 2133 the entire time

late sorrel Jun 12, 2020, 12:02 AM

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yes it’s half

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for a reason

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 12:03 AM

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Oh hmmm I'm wrong apparently it displays as half because it splits between the two sticks in dual channel config

proper wren Jun 12, 2020, 12:03 AM

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I have 3000mhz

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bruh

late sorrel Jun 12, 2020, 12:03 AM

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yeah that’s it

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put it in XMP in bios

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 12:03 AM

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Curious that means every time someone showed a screenshot at full speed it means they were running single channel

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phaWesker

proper wren Jun 12, 2020, 12:03 AM

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feels bad man

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 12:04 AM

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Do you happen to have a kit of Corsair Vengeance LPX?

proper wren Jun 12, 2020, 12:04 AM

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TridentZ

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I stopped crashing

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 12:05 AM

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Oh okay

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I figured since that was like one of the most popular kits cause of price/performance, that's what I got so

proper wren Jun 12, 2020, 12:05 AM

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problem is

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 12:05 AM

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Was able to overclock to 3200 at C14

proper wren Jun 12, 2020, 12:06 AM

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it was at 2133 for 6 months without me knowing

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I forgot to change the settings when I bought a different mobo lol

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 12:06 AM

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Yeah that would slow things down something awful, if you had nothing to compare it to you wouldn't know any better

proper wren Jun 12, 2020, 12:06 AM

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and I'm a technician which makes it even worse

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slow claps

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 12:06 AM

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It be like that sometimes rpdSmug

muted relic Jun 12, 2020, 12:49 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gvRCQq

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This build look decent to yall

abstract kite Jun 12, 2020, 12:51 AM

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That PSU is overkill

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 12:51 AM

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Not only is the PSU overkill, but that motherboard is not sufficient for an R9

late sorrel Jun 12, 2020, 12:51 AM

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Also, get 3600Mhz

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 12:51 AM

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The cheaper MSI X570 boards have crap VRMs for the money

abstract kite Jun 12, 2020, 12:51 AM

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MSI X570 motherboards are just a letdown tbh

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 12:52 AM

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If it isn't a Tomahawk, or above 300 bucks its not good

fleet canopy Jun 12, 2020, 12:52 AM

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For 2500$

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You could get

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Waaay much better stuff

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 12:52 AM

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Though I suppose if the Power Supply is there for efficiency curve and adapting for those 300W monster GPUs I can kind of understand it

eternal cairn Jun 12, 2020, 12:53 AM

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Don't buy a GPU yet.

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 12:53 AM

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I thought this was supposed to be a 4k machine

fleet canopy Jun 12, 2020, 12:53 AM

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Is it only for gaming? @muted relic

eternal cairn Jun 12, 2020, 12:56 AM

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That AIO needs an upgrade.

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That or you're getting ripped off.

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 12:56 AM

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That's a new one

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It actually performs really well

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I think uh 7 degrees from a comparison I saw with the X62

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Woah I just noticed he picked the FE model for the 2070 phaWesker

fleet canopy Jun 12, 2020, 1:00 AM

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3900X, 2070 Super, it's really not that good

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So much is so bad

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 1:00 AM

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Uh its just some of the stuff there is overpriced and not budgeted well like the power supply and RAM

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Well I tried to improve it, I did step up the graphics card. But seriously, wait till Q4 this year. AMD and Nvidia are releasing new graphics cards by October. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mkRCQq

fleet canopy Jun 12, 2020, 1:02 AM

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Ehh

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Hm

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Yeah it's not too bad this time

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Still dunno why a 3900X

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 1:02 AM

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3900X isn't a bad choice

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Its a long lasting Chip no matter how you slice it

abstract kite Jun 12, 2020, 1:03 AM

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^ For sure

fleet canopy Jun 12, 2020, 1:03 AM

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Yeah but is he really going to actually use it fully?

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He could just get a 3600 and then buy a 4900X when it comes out or whatever

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 1:03 AM

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Maybe, that doesn't matter too much. Its a non compromising part

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It will be fast enough to handle any graphics card at 1440p and up

fleet canopy Jun 12, 2020, 1:04 AM

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Still overpowered in my opinion

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3900X is good, yeah

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 1:04 AM

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If it fits in the budget, its worth it

fleet canopy Jun 12, 2020, 1:04 AM

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Hm

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Well then

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 1:04 AM

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Not too sure about the case though, but its kind of hard to get your hands on a decent cheap case atm

late sorrel Jun 12, 2020, 1:05 AM

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see, that’s why I’m okay with buying a 3600 to replace my system

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most likely, I’ll be in a great money position & be able to go all out for the 3080/Navi & 4800x

fleet canopy Jun 12, 2020, 1:06 AM

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Yeah

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It's always better to just budget some things

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 1:06 AM

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6900XTX PirateSimon

late sorrel Jun 12, 2020, 1:07 AM

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and, I’ll be in a good position for server cpu

muted relic Jun 12, 2020, 1:07 AM

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@fleet canopy Yea bro its only for gaming

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And thanks guys ima go back and change it up

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 1:08 AM

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I sort of made some changes so you could judge it for yourself, its an improvement for sure

muted relic Jun 12, 2020, 1:09 AM

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Link ?

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 1:09 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mkRCQq

muted relic Jun 12, 2020, 1:20 AM

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Sweet thanks bro ^

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 1:20 AM

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Huh

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There's listings for the new X570 Tomahawk but they're all sold out phaSheva

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If I could find one maybe I would get one instead of upgrading my case and cooling phaWesker

fallow shard Jun 12, 2020, 1:46 AM

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@abstract kite https://discordapp.com/channels/408196129470152705/584808651164745809/720770019960815696
That looks kinda like a 3d print ngl snrk
||i know it's not, just looks funny||

still kernel Jun 12, 2020, 1:47 AM

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Is this the channelf or troubleshooting or bug help? or can sonmeone point me to it if its not

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 1:47 AM

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If its troubleshooting regarding GTFO go to #gtfo-technical-support

still kernel Jun 12, 2020, 1:47 AM

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gotcha ty

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 1:47 AM

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However if its a general computer thing this ones fine

torn ferry Jun 12, 2020, 1:48 AM

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I wish Corsair made their white K70 keyboard in more switch types other than MX Speed.

limpid bone Jun 12, 2020, 1:48 AM

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help me out, let me know what would me better for doing basic tasks and gaming https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 1:48 AM

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That link isn't right

torn ferry Jun 12, 2020, 1:48 AM

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Yea, it's not right.

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Links should have a string of numbers/letters instead of "list".

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 1:48 AM

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torn ferry Jun 12, 2020, 1:49 AM

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Yea. like that.

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 1:49 AM

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Copy the link at the top there like so

limpid bone Jun 12, 2020, 1:49 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mw2BRk

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my bad lol

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 1:50 AM

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Well one thing I want to point out is that motherboard's MSRP is like 170

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So I wouldn't pay that much for it

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Its a good board for the money though if you can actually get it at MSRP

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And I see you're trying for a white theme too

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PirateSimon

limpid bone Jun 12, 2020, 1:51 AM

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lol yes

fleet canopy Jun 12, 2020, 1:51 AM

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kek

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White

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 1:51 AM

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Alright, well there's certainly a better way of going about this

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First of all the H510 Elite isn't worth it, if you're willing to spend that much on a case go for a white Lian Li O11 Dynamic, you gotta account for fans in the budget though

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As it comes with no fans

muted relic Jun 12, 2020, 1:52 AM

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how come yall not grilling him like how yall did me lol

fleet canopy Jun 12, 2020, 1:53 AM

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Because uhhh

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You added a 1000W PSU

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 1:53 AM

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Who grilled you, we grilled the list phaSip

fleet canopy Jun 12, 2020, 1:53 AM

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Mm

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Grilled list

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Tasty.

late sorrel Jun 12, 2020, 1:54 AM

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also, aio bad

fleet canopy Jun 12, 2020, 1:55 AM

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AIO cool

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Ish

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Could pay for a cheaper one that performs better

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But this one is apparently very good

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 1:55 AM

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Uh I wouldn't say better but the same at least

fleet canopy Jun 12, 2020, 1:55 AM

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Yeah

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 1:57 AM

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What's with the 4tb drive?

fleet canopy Jun 12, 2020, 1:57 AM

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game

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 1:57 AM

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I just think if you want a secondary drive for that, it should be 7200rpm

limpid bone Jun 12, 2020, 1:57 AM

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games

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 1:57 AM

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And I'm pretty sure at that size you're not gonna find it at that speed

fleet canopy Jun 12, 2020, 1:57 AM

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4TB is like, really big

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Dunno how anyone could fill up 4TB of games

limpid bone Jun 12, 2020, 1:58 AM

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so at 2t?

fleet canopy Jun 12, 2020, 1:58 AM

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Unless Modern Warfare keeps pushing 30GB updates

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 1:58 AM

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Better off getting 2tb now I would say

muted relic Jun 12, 2020, 1:58 AM

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LOL

fleet canopy Jun 12, 2020, 1:58 AM

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1.4TB game PirateSimon

eternal cairn Jun 12, 2020, 1:58 AM

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People who don't delete their old games they never play.

fleet canopy Jun 12, 2020, 1:58 AM

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Like me

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 1:59 AM

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Yeah I do tend to move stuff off the SSD to the second drive

muted relic Jun 12, 2020, 1:59 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JDYbYH

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Newly improved

fleet canopy Jun 12, 2020, 1:59 AM

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Hm

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 1:59 AM

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Oh okay, just bear in mind the Coolermaster H500 should be around 120 normally

fleet canopy Jun 12, 2020, 1:59 AM

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If you want, EVGA Black is for like, MSRP

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So you're saving around 30-50$ lol

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 2:00 AM

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Used to be an even 100 but they up the price from tariffs

fleet canopy Jun 12, 2020, 2:01 AM

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Mm, fractal design https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tHCgf9

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 2:01 AM

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@limpid bone Is there any reason you went with 32gb of RAM? Cause you said it was just for regular stuff and gaming right?

muted relic Jun 12, 2020, 2:02 AM

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He trying to be OP

limpid bone Jun 12, 2020, 2:02 AM

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lol a bit

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 2:03 AM

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Yeah well unless you're doing some kind of editing work in addition, be it video, blender renders or something

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That really wouldn't be utilized

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Like at some point we might need that overhead for games, but its as easy as buying 2 more sticks later

muted relic Jun 12, 2020, 2:03 AM

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You feel the burn @limpid bone

near widget Jun 12, 2020, 2:04 AM

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uhhh my pc is getting way hotter on this patch than last patch

fleet canopy Jun 12, 2020, 2:04 AM

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Hm

near widget Jun 12, 2020, 2:04 AM

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is anyone else having this issue?

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 2:04 AM

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That's odd, what's getting hotter?

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Just everything in general?

limpid bone Jun 12, 2020, 2:05 AM

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I just sometime keep a lot of stuff rounding in the background like keeping 20 tabs open and programs im working on for school

muted relic Jun 12, 2020, 2:05 AM

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Damn 20 tabs you mean porn

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 2:06 AM

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Here's a solution, stop using Chrome PirateSimon

limpid bone Jun 12, 2020, 2:06 AM

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but i like chrome lol

late sorrel Jun 12, 2020, 2:06 AM

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firefox gang

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 2:06 AM

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GANGGANG

near widget Jun 12, 2020, 2:06 AM

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my gpu is

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 2:06 AM

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But in any case, typically when tabs aren't active they get loaded into the page file and don't use up RAM

muted relic Jun 12, 2020, 2:06 AM

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Damn i might have to hit that 'uninstall' tonight

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 2:07 AM

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Well that's how it should work

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But I think Google lost that somewhere when they were spying on people using Incognito

muted relic Jun 12, 2020, 2:08 AM

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Places tape over camera

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 2:08 AM

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Well I don't know if its that level of spying, but despite what they've said they do track your history with incognito and will advertise you stuff you're searching

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Okay so I don't normally load a crap ton of tabs but out of curiosity I just opened 20 tabs, duped youtube a bunch of times and this is how much memory it reserved

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Anyway I suppose it would be higher if they were all on proper videos maybe but I doubt it would be that much

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Your budget is within 2 grand right?

limpid bone Jun 12, 2020, 2:14 AM

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yeah that would be good right

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or ps5?

muted relic Jun 12, 2020, 2:14 AM

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LMFAO

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 2:15 AM

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I can't pull a miracle

muted relic Jun 12, 2020, 2:15 AM

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So he should just get ps5

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 2:16 AM

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I mean its your money phaWesker

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Though honestly I wouldn't even consider buying any graphics card atm anyway, new ones are coming out by October

limpid bone Jun 12, 2020, 2:17 AM

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what you think about it

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well i can wait on the gpu, but should i get everything else

fleet canopy Jun 12, 2020, 2:20 AM

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There's even new CPUs coming out as well, it's better imo to wait really

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 2:21 AM

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That's true, actually it could add even more price/performance to the old stuff as well

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Cause that 3700X will start falling to the low 200s like immediately once the new stuff is announced

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In any case... uh https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WbFHFG

muted relic Jun 12, 2020, 2:23 AM

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Damn they be doing pc gamers dirty

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 2:23 AM

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That's one way of looking at it

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But its amazing for those who are patient

torn ferry Jun 12, 2020, 2:24 AM

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Are EATX motherboards a waste of money?

fleet canopy Jun 12, 2020, 2:24 AM

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Not if you're going to use EATX

torn ferry Jun 12, 2020, 2:24 AM

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What is EATX mainly used for?

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 2:25 AM

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So I mean hang on to that list, change things later on. But this should give you an idea on how much you might spend

torn ferry Jun 12, 2020, 2:25 AM

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Is the iBuyPower Snowblind case not available anymore?

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 2:26 AM

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I don't even think you could buy that outside of getting a computer from ibuypower

limpid bone Jun 12, 2020, 2:29 AM

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would you get a build from them?

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 2:29 AM

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I wouldn't recommend it

limpid bone Jun 12, 2020, 2:29 AM

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over priced

torn ferry Jun 12, 2020, 2:29 AM

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They're OK but not great.

fleet canopy Jun 12, 2020, 2:29 AM

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Would never recommend a prebuilt at all

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 2:29 AM

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Its just a quality control thing

torn ferry Jun 12, 2020, 2:29 AM

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If you want quality, I'd probably build one which is what I want to do.

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And ditch my prebuilt.

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 2:29 AM

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You have no control over what parts they use

torn ferry Jun 12, 2020, 2:29 AM

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Take an axe to it maybe.

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 2:30 AM

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Especially if you get one of those straight from a retailer

torn ferry Jun 12, 2020, 2:30 AM

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And isn't iBuyPower and CyberPowerPC the same company?

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 2:30 AM

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No

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They just happen to have uh similar names

limpid bone Jun 12, 2020, 2:31 AM

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you didn't like the case i picked lol @vapid crypt

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 2:32 AM

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Uh yeah the thing is

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If it were a 70 dollar case, it'd be fine. At 150 bucks, its just a bad choice. Cause the thing is its no different in terms of performance from their regular H510

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Which is 70 bucks

torn ferry Jun 12, 2020, 2:33 AM

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Their case selection is pretty poor.

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I just looked on iBuyPower.

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 2:33 AM

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The P400A is a great case though, 140 is a tad inflated I think it should be like 100

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But what are you gonna do

torn ferry Jun 12, 2020, 2:35 AM

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How are the other sites like Origin PC, Maingear, Digital Storm, etc.?

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 2:35 AM

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I suppose if you wanted a cool white case with a glass front panel something from Corsair would be fine. They don't choke off the air flow in the 465X for an example. Just can't find them in stock atm

torn ferry Jun 12, 2020, 2:35 AM

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I can't find a 465x in white.

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How is the 680x in terms of thermals?

fresh ginkgo Jun 12, 2020, 2:39 AM

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📎 20200515_144957.jpg

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This is my set up in the h510 elite

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Here is a better pic

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 2:42 AM

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Looks rather cramped phaSheva

muted relic Jun 12, 2020, 2:42 AM

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LOL y'all always find something to say

fresh ginkgo Jun 12, 2020, 2:43 AM

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it is a little cramped but it all fits

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 2:43 AM

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I mean I could say nothing, but what would be the point PirateSimon

torn ferry Jun 12, 2020, 2:44 AM

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Is hardline cooling difficult to set up?

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I know soft tubing is probably easier since you can just connect it anywhere you need it to go, but I'm pretty sure with hardline you have to plan the loop?

fresh ginkgo Jun 12, 2020, 2:45 AM

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if your trying to do it for the first couple times then yes but the more you do it the easier it gets

torn ferry Jun 12, 2020, 2:47 AM

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Is water cooling more expensive than an AIO or air cooler setup?

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Cause you need waterblocks for CPU and GPU, radiators, tubing and fittings, reservoir and coolant?

fleet canopy Jun 12, 2020, 2:47 AM

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Custom water cooling is uhh

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Definitely a bit more pricy

torn ferry Jun 12, 2020, 2:48 AM

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How do you bend the tubes for hardline?

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 2:48 AM

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You aren't technically required to cool both, but sure if you wanted to go all out

torn ferry Jun 12, 2020, 2:48 AM

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Do they come already shaped or do you need to use some kind of tool?

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 2:48 AM

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But you could just do a single rad and cool just the CPU, leave the GPU on air

torn ferry Jun 12, 2020, 2:50 AM

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What would benefit more from custom water cooling?

limpid bone Jun 12, 2020, 2:50 AM

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@muted relic said he want everything water cooled

torn ferry Jun 12, 2020, 2:50 AM

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The CPU or GPU?

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 2:50 AM

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Depends on what you're trying to do

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And what hardware you're using

fresh ginkgo Jun 12, 2020, 2:50 AM

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lets just say i spent 700 usd in just water cooling

muted relic Jun 12, 2020, 2:51 AM

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Pocket change

limpid bone Jun 12, 2020, 2:52 AM

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@muted relic yeah alright, you want to build my pc for me then 😂

muted relic Jun 12, 2020, 2:53 AM

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I meant that was pocket change for @fresh ginkgo

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He can build mine too

fresh ginkgo Jun 12, 2020, 2:55 AM

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not really pocket change

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it was a pretty penny but 100% worth ity

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altough one of the fittings decided to leak 2 days later and fry my power supply

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got lucky that was the only thing

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this is the before pic

fleet canopy Jun 12, 2020, 3:02 AM

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Mm

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Lovely

stable wyvern Jun 12, 2020, 4:33 AM

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Mine

📎 IMG_20200321_204611.jpg

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1950x
Vega 64 8gb
32gb ram (this was during the samsung price gouging, cost me almost $800 💀 )

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 4:36 AM

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Good God

fleet canopy Jun 12, 2020, 4:37 AM

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jfc

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What were the speed?

stable wyvern Jun 12, 2020, 4:37 AM

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Ddr4 3200

fleet canopy Jun 12, 2020, 4:37 AM

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Dang

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Unless CAS latency was lower

stable wyvern Jun 12, 2020, 4:38 AM

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13 if I remember correctly

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 4:38 AM

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I've never seen it at that CAS for XMP

stable wyvern Jun 12, 2020, 4:38 AM

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It was pure price gouging by samsung. They slowed production to jack up prices

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 4:38 AM

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C14 sure

stable wyvern Jun 12, 2020, 4:39 AM

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Actually, I think you're right about the C14

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 4:39 AM

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Could certainly get it lower though

stable wyvern Jun 12, 2020, 4:40 AM

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Originally I wamted to get the 16gb sticks and max out all 8 slots for 128gb ram, but it would've been $2K+ for ram alone. Screw that

fleet canopy Jun 12, 2020, 4:40 AM

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CL13 isn't yet available I think? Not at that time I guess

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 4:41 AM

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Well no you can get it lower than 14

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You have to tune it yourself

fleet canopy Jun 12, 2020, 4:41 AM

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Maybe

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 4:41 AM

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3200 C14 is just what they have it set to work at for XMP

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Just for example the memory I have is advertised to run at 3000 C15, I oc'ed to 3200 and have the CL at 14, but the rest of the timings are looser

stable wyvern Jun 12, 2020, 4:44 AM

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Yeah, I stuck with the stock memory settings. I don't understand enough to tune it properly

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 4:45 AM

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Neither do I, but there's a calculator that makes it simple

fleet canopy Jun 12, 2020, 4:45 AM

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You can watch the techquickie and learn in 4 minutes PirateSimon

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 4:45 AM

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Ryzen Dram calculator

stable wyvern Jun 12, 2020, 4:45 AM

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Oh? I'll have to check it out

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 4:45 AM

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That includes TR actually

stable wyvern Jun 12, 2020, 4:45 AM

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I'm debating whether to get a 3990x

fleet canopy Jun 12, 2020, 4:46 AM

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If you're patient, 4900X or 4990X kek

stable wyvern Jun 12, 2020, 4:46 AM

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Have one rig with a hypervisor running 4 VMs and thin clients

stark plover Jun 12, 2020, 4:46 AM

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Any thoughts on this psu https://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Toughpower-750W-256-Color-PS-TPG-0750FPCGUS-R/dp/B01N4C39AR

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 4:46 AM

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I wouldn't buy it at those prices

stable wyvern Jun 12, 2020, 4:46 AM

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Then a couple other VMs for media, and family members

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 4:47 AM

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Seeing as something like that should be no more than like maybe 120 bucks

stable wyvern Jun 12, 2020, 4:47 AM

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Save money and skip the rgb

stark plover Jun 12, 2020, 4:48 AM

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Newegg got it for 130 according to pcpartpicker

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lemme get the sauce to a good psu then

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 4:48 AM

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Well you wouldn't see the RGB unless you have a specific case that allows you to

stark plover Jun 12, 2020, 4:48 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/kz7CmG/evga-power-supply-210gq0650

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im not getting it for the rgb

stable wyvern Jun 12, 2020, 4:48 AM

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Check microcenter. They usually have decent deals

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 4:48 AM

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Oh I understand

stark plover Jun 12, 2020, 4:48 AM

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im getting it for the wattage, rating, price, etc

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 4:49 AM

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I'm just ranting about RGB on power supplies

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Why is that a thing?

fleet canopy Jun 12, 2020, 4:49 AM

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lol rgb on psu

stark plover Jun 12, 2020, 4:49 AM

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What about that evga psu

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Dropped down to 650w though 😭

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 4:49 AM

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What system are you putting this in?

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Cause 650W works for most set ups

stark plover Jun 12, 2020, 4:49 AM

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CPU will be a ryzen 3600, gpu not sure but midrange

stable wyvern Jun 12, 2020, 4:50 AM

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I got my modular Corsair 850w 80 gold for $35 off. Paid about 140 after tax

stark plover Jun 12, 2020, 4:50 AM

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Just trying to get the rest set up

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 4:50 AM

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And last I checked cause I was browsing earlier

fleet canopy Jun 12, 2020, 4:50 AM

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So like a 5700XT

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 4:50 AM

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The Coolermaster MWE Gold PSUs are in stock at Best Buy

stark plover Jun 12, 2020, 4:50 AM

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Im trying to beat a evga 750w at 160$

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/J7F48d/cooler-master-mwe-gold-650-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mpy-6501-afaag-us

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I saw that but i wasnt sure about CM as a psu brand

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 4:51 AM

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Oh apparently its sold out

stable wyvern Jun 12, 2020, 4:51 AM

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Probably a rebadge

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 4:51 AM

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At least at Best Buy

stark plover Jun 12, 2020, 4:51 AM

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Amazon has it for new at 130

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From a seller called Hot Deals 4 Less

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 4:51 AM

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Its a decent power supply from what I can tell

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I would recommend the one I have, but its basically extinct atm until Bitfenix ships em out again phaWesker

stark plover Jun 12, 2020, 4:52 AM

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smh why pcpartpicker says some items in stock

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but the newegg page says not avaiable

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I would recommend the one I have, but its basically extinct atm until Bitfenix ships em out again :phaWesker:
@vapid crypt aight thanks ill dm shipping address since ur giving away psu

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 4:53 AM

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rpdLUL

stark plover Jun 12, 2020, 4:53 AM

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How are the Thermaltake Toughpower psus thoguh

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/P7pmP6/thermaltake-toughpower-gf1-pe-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-tpd-0850fnfagu-1

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 4:54 AM

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The gold ones should be good

stark plover Jun 12, 2020, 4:54 AM

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Or would it be best to just up price for this https://pcpartpicker.com/product/P7pmP6/thermaltake-toughpower-gf1-pe-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-tpd-0850fnfagu-1

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wrong link

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 4:54 AM

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Though I would advise caution

stark plover Jun 12, 2020, 4:54 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jBZ2FT/evga-supernova-p2-750-w-80-platinum-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-220-p2-0750-x1

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 4:54 AM

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Cause Thermaltake are assholes and they won't honor warranties from Amazon

stark plover Jun 12, 2020, 4:54 AM

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gg

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 4:54 AM

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Specifically for the PSUs

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Basically if you didn't buy it directly from them, or straight from a retailer or e-tailer that warranty may as well not exist

stark plover Jun 12, 2020, 4:56 AM

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Alright

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YOu said you got a BitFenix?

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 4:56 AM

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Yeah Bitfenix Whisper, like I said its extinct atm

stark plover Jun 12, 2020, 4:56 AM

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Bruh

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https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1328661-REG/bitfenix_bp_wg850umag_7fm_whisper_850m_80_plus.html

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Is it though

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 4:56 AM

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Hmm not bad

stark plover Jun 12, 2020, 4:57 AM

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Whenever Im on the B&H site it just feels like something like bed bath and beyond and then i wonder why im looking for pc parts there

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 4:57 AM

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I mean if you can legit get that its a good unit, I got the 750W for like 100 bucks last year

stark plover Jun 12, 2020, 4:57 AM

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"This item ships direct from the distributor"

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It says that

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I assume itll be a legit model

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Ive never used B&H but since its on pcpartpicker, its a legit site yeah?

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 4:58 AM

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Well that's not what I meant, but fine PirateSimon

stark plover Jun 12, 2020, 4:58 AM

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oh

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 4:58 AM

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People sleep on B&H clearly

stark plover Jun 12, 2020, 4:58 AM

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what did you mean

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like

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get it from there vs ebay or something

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legit makes it sound like im going to a black market or the dark web for a psu

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 4:59 AM

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Its 1AM and I'm running on a can of monster from 6 hours ago, I might not make sense atm phaMoira

stark plover Jun 12, 2020, 4:59 AM

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thats fair

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 5:39 PM

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https://videocardz.com/newz/amazon-lists-amd-ryzen-3000xt-series-launching-july-7th

jade ermine Jun 12, 2020, 5:40 PM

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crazy how they are supposed to launch zen3 this year too

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 5:53 PM

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Well not really, its just 7nm yields are so great they're taking advantage of that now

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They effectively have a ton of 3950X tier silicon on hand, so what better than to refresh the lower parts

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Also allegedly it might be possible to overclock the infinity fabric to 2000mhz according to the guy that made the dram calculator https://twitter.com/1usmus/status/1264803081667174400

jade ermine Jun 12, 2020, 5:55 PM

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4000mhz ram with good timings choo choo

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that would be fun

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 5:55 PM

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Get your B-dies phaWesker

jade ermine Jun 12, 2020, 5:56 PM

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aaaalready got em baby

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unlocked potential

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 5:56 PM

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I'd have to get some myself at some point after upgrading

jade ermine Jun 12, 2020, 5:57 PM

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swapping to XT model might be fun just for the hell of it but in reality i just end up waiting for next gen

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i mean im running 3900X right now so it would be just out of curiosity

#

ConfusedUlf

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 5:58 PM

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Its effectively gonna be a 12 core 3950X

jade ermine Jun 12, 2020, 5:58 PM

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i could "downgrade" to 8 core version

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idk memory memes are tempting

lilac geyser Jun 12, 2020, 6:48 PM

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XT cpu and gpus, anyone else confused?

vapid crypt Jun 12, 2020, 8:52 PM

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A bit, but it would only get really confusing if they continue to refresh cpus with that tag later

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Though at the same time the Graphics card always have a prefix of RX while Ryzen has a prefix of either like R3/5/7/9 phaSheva

abstract kite Jun 12, 2020, 11:55 PM

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pc shut down after Starting GTFO
Specs 1060 Gb 8700K 16GB

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please help

vapid crypt Jun 13, 2020, 12:01 AM

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There's a lot of different reasons for that happening unfortunately, is it shutting down after launching any other game?

stable goblet Jun 13, 2020, 12:05 AM

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I am so happy to see someone else is having the same issue

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im running an i5-8400 and 1080

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i push 144 frames with high to mid settings

abstract kite Jun 13, 2020, 12:07 AM

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no other ran into that issue no

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just GTFO

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I suspect it could be because of Vangurd

stable goblet Jun 13, 2020, 12:07 AM

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YES

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I suspect the same thing

vapid crypt Jun 13, 2020, 12:08 AM

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Ah the legal Rootkit PirateSimon

stable goblet Jun 13, 2020, 12:08 AM

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LOL

vapid crypt Jun 13, 2020, 12:08 AM

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I say legal but I mean come on

late sorrel Jun 13, 2020, 12:08 AM

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Vanguard didn’t stop me from playing gtfo

stable goblet Jun 13, 2020, 12:08 AM

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No i can play

abstract kite Jun 13, 2020, 12:08 AM

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But I deleted GTFO not planning to install it until it comes of early access cuz i get an unstable 55 fps with a 1060

stable goblet Jun 13, 2020, 12:08 AM

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but after maybe one or two hours the pc will shutoff

vapid crypt Jun 13, 2020, 12:08 AM

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Strange

stable goblet Jun 13, 2020, 12:08 AM

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then i try to join in or reconnect and it jsut keeps shutting down and rebooting

vapid crypt Jun 13, 2020, 12:08 AM

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I get 80+ with my RX 580

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Close to 100 solo

abstract kite Jun 13, 2020, 12:09 AM

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ye my pc just rebooted

vapid crypt Jun 13, 2020, 12:09 AM

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Have you checked your temps?

stable goblet Jun 13, 2020, 12:09 AM

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yes

abstract kite Jun 13, 2020, 12:09 AM

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They are golden

stable goblet Jun 13, 2020, 12:09 AM

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my pc cool as a cucumber

late sorrel Jun 13, 2020, 12:09 AM

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shoot vanguard then

abstract kite Jun 13, 2020, 12:09 AM

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my temps are good

stable goblet Jun 13, 2020, 12:09 AM

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i have run heavier games at ultra for hours at a time

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i can play apex for 10 hours straight

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its literally just this game

abstract kite Jun 13, 2020, 12:10 AM

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my pc never shut down before other than when i was overclocking

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so i shat my self when i saw the RGB turn off

stable goblet Jun 13, 2020, 12:10 AM

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and it's dissapointing cause I just got it and I really fucking like this game so not being able to play is frustrating

late sorrel Jun 13, 2020, 12:11 AM

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what do your logs say?

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could you post the gtfo logs in this chat?

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see #bug-reporting for path

vapid crypt Jun 13, 2020, 12:11 AM

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I recall another person having an issue like this back when the game came out, in that case it was a hardware issue. The Fan in the power supply was dead, was overheating tripping its protection. Not necessarily the case here but yeah phaSheva

stable goblet Jun 13, 2020, 12:11 AM

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I'm sorry, how do I do that? Do I need

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ahh okay

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gimmie a second

late sorrel Jun 13, 2020, 12:12 AM

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just wondering if it’s game related or not

stable goblet Jun 13, 2020, 12:12 AM

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did he have a corsair cx750M

vapid crypt Jun 13, 2020, 12:12 AM

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I don't recall, but its not like its impossible to happen on any unit necessarily

abstract kite Jun 13, 2020, 12:13 AM

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I have an EVGA 750GQ

vapid crypt Jun 13, 2020, 12:13 AM

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If its not happening elsewhere it might be something else though

stable goblet Jun 13, 2020, 12:14 AM

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I was watching videos

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as you do

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and this guy had the same psu

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siad it was giving him issues that it could run games and stuff but if he stress tested it it would shutdown the comp

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said it might be a capacitor issue

late sorrel Jun 13, 2020, 12:16 AM

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huh, that kind of thing was happening to me too

vapid crypt Jun 13, 2020, 12:16 AM

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Corsair CX series

late sorrel Jun 13, 2020, 12:16 AM

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I just randomly got black screens In seige

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and other games, but seige was mostly

vapid crypt Jun 13, 2020, 12:16 AM

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They had a recall of their SF power supplies recently

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That's something else entirely but still

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And black screens wouldn't that be related to drivers?

late sorrel Jun 13, 2020, 12:17 AM

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well, my rgb colours died too

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but my drivers are latest tho

abstract kite Jun 13, 2020, 12:17 AM

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they still could be corrupted

stable goblet Jun 13, 2020, 12:18 AM

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I might just take my whole system to a repair place to check it out

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its new maybe 6months old I might still have the warranty

abstract kite Jun 13, 2020, 12:19 AM

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try factory reset

stable goblet Jun 13, 2020, 12:19 AM

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but that is work I rather not have to deal with