#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk
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corsair cases for the most part are pretty good
I want the Crystal 570X but is it still good?
Then what is the 465x?
the 465 is definitely the thing version of the 680 lmao
ive heard decent things about the 570 tho
in terms of specs, it looks decent
GPU clearance is above average
so if you have a long ass card like a strix, no issues there
got a touch over 70mm for fans and radiators if you want to go extensive liquid cooling
or slap a 240mm up top, if you want a low profile/aesthetic based build
going through a few reviews, it seems half decent
airflow is better than most comparable cases, slightly harder to work in tho, especially when it comes to cable management
I just want a good white case that is RGB heavy.
Or any colored case except for harsh colors like orange or red.
fuck that
black or white imo
keep it neutral, then you can do whatever theme you want
The elusive gunmetal Grey 
I initially wanted the Enermax Saberay, but it seems to be made of mostly plastic.
looks like something cougar would make
Except without airflow 
lmao
The problem with white stuff is that over time it doesnt look white anymore
it scratches up way to easily
How is the iCue 220T?
A lot of those old computer cases that were typically white ended up yellowing and becoming off white or beige
I don't know if that's something they've improved on
But you know
the 220T looks like its gunna be clearance issues left right and center
youd have to be particularly careful about what you put in it
Obsidian 500D RGB SE?
Sun can also affect the white color
220T has good airflow but you’re limited in placement of radiators and the like
the obsidian definitely wouldnt have clearance issues
and you get decent options for radiators and the like
Does the iBuyPower Snowblind Element case not exist anymore?
cant say im overly familiar with ibuypower
im a kiwi, so we dont get a lot of that sort of stuff
hell, you can only get like 1 cougar case over here
I doubt you would even buy their cases as is, you would have to get it with a system
I heard it was a case that had an LCD panel screen.
Since they're an SI
Unless of course there's an OEM of the same case or something
side question, do you have any idea what mobo form factor you wanna do?
or case form factor?
I know I don't want EATX or Mini ITX.
safe bet
odds are you wouldnt be looking at EATX anyway
they are mostly for high end desktop platforms
like intel I9s or AMD threadrippers
if you didnt mind dropping to an MATX, you could go for a corsair 280x
they come in white and look absolutely fantastic
EATX is an inconsistent form factor, there doesn't seem to be an acceptable standard for it from what I understand. Sometimes its just a longer ATX board, other times its just bigger in general 
^
EATX unofficially means bigger than ATX
because there is no offical
sorta stupid
I can't find the white 280x anywhere.
even asus cant make a consistent EATX board size
Sort of weird to build a case to support since it can vary
i mean, it just has to have the standard 9 pin standoffs, after that its just clearance
Are there any differences between the 280x RGB and the normal 280x or is it just the included fans?
not just the included fans
but almost
the RGB version also comes with a corsair lighting node pro
thats literally it
But anything else besides lighting?
I want the B450 Mortar Titanium motherboard, but it seems discontinued.
whats the manufacturer?
MSI.
it probably has been
I need a white or mostly white motherboard to fit the color schemes.
B550 has just come out
Or silver that looks like white.
and white parts are usually done in small runs
PcPartPicker doesn't have B550.
Let's see what is on Intel's side.
z390/z490
I see, but now I need a good ATX case that is in stock. XD
lmao
Well a good ATX case that is both white and full of RGB 
id wholeheartedly recommend the 680x, except that its an absolute behemoth
it takes a lot of desk space
strix
What makes Strix better?
prime is mostly aimed at business/entry level
TUF is budget friendly gaming
also generally true to their name
designed to take a beating
strix is entry level enthusiast
Wonderful. 680X, $78 in shipping, amazing.
then you get all the maximus/crosshair etc which are full blown enthusiast
RIP you
i got mine with free shipping
because it was across town
probably check out local tech shops first
That must be shipping from over seas
see if you can pick it up, or get cheaper delivery
Amazon, you traitor. You're buying it from Amazon or the manufacturer right? Not from one of the Amazon sellers?
"Available from these sellers"
Well, Newegg has the black case in stock.
What is the difference between the 465x and the 570x?
570 has less PSU clearance
so you might have to be careful about what PSU you use
sorry, 465 has less clearance
the 570 can also fit 2x140mm fans up top, while the 465 can only fit 1, or 2x120
$360 for white PSU, delicious.
really, consider paintint if you are that into white color
465 can also fit 4 2.5 inch drives, as opposed to the 670 at 2
I don't want to void warranty on parts.
Yeah, don't buy it from Amazon then if it says "available from these sellers".
It's just people trying to rip you off.
other consideration, if the case has a full PSU shroud, you wouldnt even be able to see the PSU
also, with regards to the amazon thing
how do you even know you VOID your warranty?
apparently they ship from italy
lul
warranties are tricky things
generally look at the companies warranty policy either online, or on the warranty book they usually give you when you buy something
or... send them an email
most manufacturers are totally chill
sometimes they wont get back to you, sometimes english is a secondary language and half the shit they say is unclear
learn how to email bomb
Would a black PSU look bad in a white case or would it be fine?
depends on other black elements within the case
if its just the PSU, itll look really out of place
if its basically everything, it wouldnt look terrible
in any case, just get something with a full cover PSU shroud and you wont have to worry
And I don't feel like waiting half a year for stock and prices to be back in order.
like, the 680x being dual chamber, you cant even see the power supply
for example how to not void the warranty of the GPU. Unmount the fan + heatsink. Unmount backplate. Repaint. Profit.
The 570x seems to have a PSU shroud.
Something gone wrong. Buy a new fan + heatsink + backplate. Install this.Send it for warranty. Profit
PCPartPicker, please add an in stock filter.
the 570 does have a shroud, but its partial cover
covers everything except for a little window that shows the power supply logo
naturally designed for corsair PSUs, it looks pretty nice with a matching PSU tho
the 465 on the other hand has a complete shroud
no window
Best Buy has a black 850W PSU for $160.
what model?
PSUs you have to be a wee bit careful about
if you get a high quality one, itll last a decade or more
RMx (2018).
low quality, and you risk killing your whole system
corsair RM series is there entry level stuff
Is that good or bad?
Smh I have a RM850x
not really either
corsair make great power supplies
its just balancing power efficiency and fan noise, plus extra features
Now that johnnyguru is on the corsair team their PSUs are pretty good.
If it wasnt for him, I would have stuck with EVGA or Seasonic
Here is shitty build 2020 in the midst of out of stock/price gouging parts:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Ggshwh
EVGA make some pretty good power supplies as well, but mostly i like them for their killer warranties
they generally top everyone else by about 2 years
^ Is why I only buy EVGA GPUs
and they barely give a fuck what you do to them
im an ASUS man through and through
Hmm
but i have a pretty deep seated respect for EVGA
You have an 8700K right Shawn?
Yea.
^
i agree
as a current 8700k user
i dont see any reason to swap to a whole new chipset for a very minor upgrade
So use the 8700k I have or is it difficult to reuse CPUs?
How do I know if it's still good though?
As long as the motherboard compatible that's all that matters
How will I know if iBuyPower didn't mess it up or something?
Mess what up?
you mean if its still good to reuse
tell that to linus lmaoooo
Or if its PGA bending the pins 
There aren't any good white Z390 motherboards.
z370 doesnt have pins tho 😛
low profile contacts, basically fool proof
Um what motherboard do you have already?
just make sure that whatever you move it to is still an LGA 1151 socket, and is new enough to have BIOS for 8th gen intel
Well its Z370 or Z390 those are the only supporting chipsets right?
Oh he budget chipsets
AsRock Z370 IB-R.
yeah
Though it is iBuyPower branded.
multicore optimizations, overclocking support, better power delivery
probably one of those side grade things sold only to SIs
They obviously used power to force that screw in 
What is the plate thing called that the tubes are coming from?
but did they buy that power?🤔
Uh waterblock right?
uh
Unsure.
I think they use rebranded MSI and Asatek AIOs
So yea, I want an upgrade and to build my first ever computer.
arent MSI asatek based anyway?
Actually Its not something I know about, I guess specifically MSI then. I recall hearing they're in the same building
Ever since I saw this video, this is what I roughly wanted to build.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BpQ8Y5v8qc
Almost every AIO is Asatek tmk
No more than $3500.
anything you want to reuse from your current comp?
or anything you think is worth reusing?
Recently various companies have been making their own versions where the pump is built into the block instead of the radiator
The graphics card, but it wouldn't fit in a white build.
asetek is pump in block
Really I swear it was in the radiator 
for 3500$ i paint you every GPU white and guarantue you won't void your warranty
The RTX 2080 I was given is the Ventus OC model.
white graphics cards are few and far between
You can maybe buy a custom GPU air cooler and paint it white
Oh wait maybe its their original patent design that was in the radiator? I know I heard something like that, I guess they aren't designing them that way anymore?
afaik, their patent has always been in block
or make an inquiry to the manufacturer. with that badget it's not unlikely
companies are doing them in the rad to get around it
its an RTX 2080, itd be a good thing in the budget to keep it
What screwdriver and sizes do I need to dismantle the card?
And to take it out of the old PC?
to take it out of the old PC, youd only need to remove the screw from the expansion ports in the back, and then pop the little clip open on the motherboard PCIE slot
As example: here is a picture of a custom fan (no idea if fits on a 2080 or if it's even good).
https://c1.neweggimages.com/ProductImage/35-186-097-17.jpg
But my point is you can replace the coolers of your GPU and paint the newly bought cooler
you can probably just eyeball the expansion port, usually its just a generic phillips or flathead screw driver
in this example it's super easy to repaint. you can just disassemble the black frame and paint that.
as for teardown, i have no idea
Could get one of those Morpheus heatsinks for the GPU and put white fans on it
its probably also a consideration that whatever case you get, youd also need to put more fans in it
and if you want it to be something like the video you linked, youd want some decent RGB fans
like corsair LL series fans
Do I need the QL fans?
probably not
LL look fantastic as is
if they are the same price, then sure, why not
but i doubt they are
Could I reuse my PSU despite that it's a thermaltake one?
you could
I don't see why you couldn't
personally im not a fan of thermaltake stuff
I believe it's 650W.
but i dont see why not
They aren't bad, but they're pretty picky with the warranty
They won't honor the warranty if the unit was purchased from Amazon, Ebay and the like
it's mostly fine, unless your upgrade exceeds the limit.
That said.... having a second PSU lying around for testing or replacement is worth gold
Heheh that reminds me how I swapped out my power supply after a few months
literally never had to use it tho
The old one isn't broken, but I'm not confident in it lasting long. Buyers remorse if you will.
I still have it though, just in case 
i think every pc guy will face this one day: "Is it my PSU or is component XY?"
at some point, probably
yea. a good psu for every day is still grea
at this point tho, i know my PSU is a solid unit, and every time ive tested it, it runs fine
t
Was thinking of just using it for a second pc, but I don't really have use for a second one that I can think of atm
only reason i have that SF600 is because i bought it for a case that i couldnt find what power supply it took, because none of the reviews said, and the documentation was in chinese
servers!!!🥳
ended up being atx rather than sfx
Hmm maybe, whenever I upgrade I'll have a 2600 and RX 580 on hand so 
so i picked up an EVGA supernova G2, and the SF600 is still in its original packaging under my bed lol
im at the same point
In my cellar there is around 12 PSUs and I had only one that died which was the most expensive one. What an irony he
strix mitx z370 board with an 8700k and a 1080ti
it was an Corsair AX860
im thinking about getting a silverstone raven rvz03
reusing my parts for an HTPC for the lounge
under your bed? if you live in the north, then that's actually BIG BRAIN
but I remember you said something about kiwis, so I fear the opposite
i live in new zealand
LOL
so
doesn't it get warm?
nah, my PC is on top of my desk
taking up a good third of my desk space
while my monitor takes up the other 2 thirds
beauty has its price
that it does
and low desk space is apparently that price
i cant even fit my keyboard on my desk
it just perpetually sits in my lap
is it a bigger keyboard
full sized razer black widow
its just the monitor is gigantic
desk is like 600mm from front to back
monitor takes up about 500mm ish
50cm?! Are you using a CRT
because of the stand that huge gap?
pretty much
not possible to turn the feet?
and the balancing on it is very delicate
i did consider a wallmount, but ultimately decided not to
Don't all games not support ultrawide?
it's a trick question
pretty much
depends how the developers code the game
some games let you run whatever resolution you want, but anchor the HUD to specific resolution points
some anchor them to relative points
put a desk in front of your desk. THe only solution I can think of right now
gunna build a new desk
or that
use this one as a work bench
problem is, everything is closed up from corona virus atm
and while ive settled on a design, i cant get the timber i need till restrictions ease
I want a particular gaming desk but I'm unsure if Newegg is trustworthy.
Newegg is pretty good, but I've heard bad things about their eBay listings.
Mine is just a homemade wooden board made by my dad
And it fits everything I need, possibly more if I cleaned it
Definitely more*
I feel that one has the best lighting of the ones I've looked at.
Or is the EWIN one better?
Hard to tell how big these things are by looking at em tbh
That being said I wonder how big my desk is now
The Cougar Mars looks p nice
But if you really want to have that kind of desk, just be sure haha
I would def get myself a desk that had a carbon fiber graphic
Like an unnecessary cup holder 
Or that uhh
Really bad idea of a PC uhh
Thingy
Whatever that is
Actually those things come with the desk
Yeah but unnecessary imo
The use of Alienware is insulting
At least it's not the R9.
What?
At least it's not one of those big ol ugly cases that's like
An xbox with no sharp edges

This one seems to have lighting all around:
https://eurekaergonomic.com/eureka-gaming-colonel-series-gip-44b-e-sport-desk-with-fiber-optic-lighting/
And its also the smallest desk
Which one?
There's this one, 60 inches, but the lighting looks really mediocre and too little of it:
https://eurekaergonomic.com/z60-gaming-desk-with-led-lights-black/
That desk seems pretty okay, but price barf
These desks just seem pointless
But if that's the average for desks, then wtf
However the the Z60 seems fairly okay with me
Its the name of the desk 
Oh
Or call this a desk?
https://www.thermaltakeusa.com/toughdesk-300-rgb-battlestation-gaming-desk.html
The RGB element is just a mousepad as large as the desk.
Thermaltake has a Level XX brand
Ah
I'd just get a nice, dark colored desk
Black, and definitely with a carbon fiber graphic, it looks mega good
No RGB, no distractions
But so many
I have a tinted tempered glass desk, and I got it for nothing cause someone was getting rid of it 
If you want it on the ground but not on the ground.
You can put the PC on the desk if you wanted to.
It's just there for if you don't want it on the desk.
Might actually be a great idea on second thought
That cart thing is better than setting the PC on the floor.
It'd give a lot of space for monitors, etc.
Nah some of them uhh
It looks like I can't really fit a case?
Unless it were SFF
But mmm, having carbon fiber
It could as you leave the space for it
I feel the Cougar desk is the best one.
Obviously if you have like 2 or 3 big monitors that's not gonna happen so 
I like that it lets you connect it to the PC to control the colors by software.
I'm more likely just sticking with 2 monitors
Probably will keep both my monitors perhaps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAKeQgrVHDs
This is some review a guy did showing he has 2 monitors and the PC on the desk.
I believe it also has a bracket at the back of the desk where you can rest a surge protector on.
Doesn't even have the shades down
What do you think of the desk so far?
I don't really have an opinion, its like a "gamer" chair you know
Is there like a minimalistic desk with just carbon fiber on it though?
Cause I really like that look, not including everything else in it like RGB, etc.
Its cool I guess, but unnecessary and expensive considering the alternatives
Yeah
And I mean that for any so called gaming desk
What
Almost similar to everything Shawn has posted
This is like the worst photoshop I've seen https://www.amazon.com/Computer-Sports-Multi-Function-Construction-Workstation/dp/B07T6GZPQJ/ref=sr_1_11?dchild=1&keywords=Carbon+fiber+desk&qid=1591215943&sr=8-11
Only complaint is the cup holder again
But I'll rip it off anyways lol
Unless uhh
It can be built without it
For 165$ however, it's not bad
Legs lookin thicc 👀
This cup holder one looks more secure:
https://eurekaergonomic.com/eureka-gaming-captain-series-gip-p47-e-sport-desk-red/
I wouldn't really care about a cupholder
Though I believe the cup holder and headphone hook is optional and can be left off the desk.
The Eureka desks let you buy them with monitor arms.
Sweet, a gaming desk that will probably break if I set down my drink:
https://theatlanticstore.com/gaming-desk/
tbh, just build your own desk
There's that option?
figure out what sort of desk you want, figure out what dimensions you can have, look up some designs for inspiration, and plan it all out on sketchup
then you have a desk that can fit as many monitors as you want on it 😛
Mm, custom
if you want the carbon fibre look, just get some carbon fibre vinyl wrap off amazon
But I wonder where I could get them for that
worst case scenario, go talk to a cabinet maker
or just go do the youtuber special
Well uhh
go to ikea, get two sets of drawers and a door 😛
I have no idea where to get myself any kind of custom
Yeah I get the idea, just dunno where I can get them really
get what?
for the most part, its just timber
if you plan it out on sketchup, you can figure out what lengths of wood you need, and most places that sell timber will cut it to size for you as well
Think getting timber desk will be the easy part, since my dad can help with that part
other than that, most of what you need can be gotten at most hardware stores
probably just wood glue, screws/nails, maybe some L brackets if you need them
a wood stain and a clear coat
anything else, amazon is your best friend
you can get cable trays to attach to the back of your desk to help deal with cable clutter for a couple of bucks
headphone stands are fairly cheap as well
hell, you could even get yourself a cup holder 😉
my desk has a mini bar in it, so skies the limit 😛
Wow, $915 on Amazon for the Cougar desk.
oops wrong channel
Well, that's neat tbh
there are always people who try to take advantage of a bad situation, but come on, don't they know that a stolen iphone is going to be disabled
it seems pretty clear apple can track iphones
Who wouldn't
$1300 for a used RTX 2080. Yea.
as if
$880 for a RTX 2080 Super, is that normal?
Nevermind, I'm unsure if it's sold by Amazon.
700$ is the MSRP for a 2080 Super
Should I not buy any product that does not say "Fulfilled by Amazon"?
All it says is "Ships from and sold by Fateka USA."
Fulfilled by amazon means its an item already stored in an amazon warehouse
So they just slap a shipping label on it and send it to you
Meaning you are guaranteed to get what you order
Anything else sold through amazon is the same as ebay
Also, i believe they let you combine shipping on amazon fulfilled orders
Looking at a 2080 Super of the MSI Gaming X Trio model.
Mm, 880$ seems like their average price for premium
Hold off on buying a new graphics card
Or I could be wrong?
And yeah, don't buy GPU
You already have a 2080 dude
lmao
No point buying a super
No point in literally buying a GPU except the 3080
How can I check the current quality of the card to see if it will last longer or not?
Aside from that, rumor has it nvidia are anouncing Ampere GPUs in the next few months
Are you talking about how long it will physically work for, or how long till it isnt performing to the required standard?
Until it isn't performing like you'd expect a new card to.
It shouldn't really be a problem
2080 is mega good, should last until like
RTX 5000 becomes a thing
Like, how long until the performance regresses so much that it's noticeable?
Actually RTX 5000 might be kind of quick
Depends what your monitor is like
Performance shouldn't ever be lost over time
1400p 144 hz.
Only way to know it'll crap itself is when it craps on you
Showing you lovely, beautiful GPU art
Idk, probably a few years at least
How long do cards typically last?
For longevity, depends
Depends how much care you take of it
I know people still running 10 year old cards
How do I know if my PC was built with a new card or a used one?
No clue
Its from ibuypower
I wouldn't really mind if it's used because manufactures would never put in used
Guarantee they wouldnt risk a used card
I bought it from Best Buy, so...
If they did use a used card, that'd be a big problem
It's an ibuypower, shouldn't be a problem
^
I once asked a "Geek Squad Agent" to show proof that a system I was looking at had room for 3 fans on the front panel,
And guess what he does?
Hah, that name for a company isn't actually bad
He breaks it.
Even if they didnt get into legal trouble, their name would become mud overnight
Geek squad are stupid idiots
Did you know you don't need any tech support or IT experience or degrees to be a Geek Squad agent?
Yup
You just need 1 year of customer service experience.
They're just like "So you know computers?"
"Hi, I'm here to fix your computer that I know nothing about,"
Most of the time its learning on the job, dealing with the same bullshit
Amazon's tech support is more better iirc
Viruses, dust buildup etc
Slap in malwarebytes free premium
But Malwarebytes caused my PC to blue screen.
Thing is, you go to geeksquad for a reason
I removed Malwarebytes and I haven't gotten the blue screen yet.
I guarantee most of their clients are home users who dont know how to look after their computers
Indeed
I haven't cleaned my computer yet.
So itll always be the same stupid shit
"My PC performs like shit and it won't download anything"
"I downloaded PC Optimizer Pro and it did shit,"
18 viruses and 4 pounds of dust later
Disk full, probably viruses, shit that's useless, etc.
"I left the side panel off for more airflow."
Hah
Hey, dont knock it till youve tried it
"Because Gamers Nexus shows that any case without the side panel performs better than stock,"
My old comp had such shit airflow i legitimately had to do it during summer
lmao
"My PC overheats so much I fried an egg on the graphics card,"
Knocked about 20 degrees off the temp
My old comp never really had that problem?
I am wondering though,
Nice
Can you cook an egg in the Inwin 805 Infinity with how bad the thermals are?
Been there done that
You can cook an egg on CPU
Used to run payday 2 on my laptop
Got myself 1060 3GB, was great
Anything beginning with HP usually is ;)
GTX 960M.
I was running it on a laptop with an i3 3217U and 4 gigs of ram, no dedicated graphics
6700HQ.
That is of course after my brother bought a 7700K, DDR4-2400MHz CAS16, Corsair uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Carbide Spec-03, 500 or 1TB HDD, Z270 Mark 2
8 GB 2666 RAM.
2x8GB
I wish i could get more of my ram :(
Without the graphics card, my PC will be $1800.
I wanna get a better PC than what I have atm
Most are meh except the CPU cooler and GPU
And probably the CPU, but I'm upgrading that either way
7700K gamers rise up
On other note, I really have to try overclocking it but also I see no point atm cause 1440p 60Hz lol
Dumbest mistake was getting a 2560x1440p 60Hz instead of a 1080p 144hz
Still haven't seen 144hz yet to this day
Probably no point in terms of FPS
Should I not buy parts on Amazon that aren't sold by Amazon?
But general responsiveness, sure
Amazon is generally alright
I've got every order from them
Just make sure to double check what you are buying
Yeah
Usually the "Amazon recommend" is the best safest choice
Know if its supposed to be new or used or w/e
Ye
Going with Intel now, hm
Or you already were going with it, I dunno
Not worth getting samsung for m.2 tbh
It's a pretty top tier, but the price is shit, there's really no special difference tbh
Their 2.5" is great either way
And plus, m.2 vs 2.5" will have absolutely no differences
All their sata stuff is also good yeah
Only like 2-3 second but doesn't really matter
Corsair stuff tends to perform a bit worse than samsung for similar prices
Is the 10600k even on Amazon?
I believe so yeah
But they have pcie 4.0 ssds
All I could find was the i5-10400
Mm
Don't see it actually
How the fuck is the 10900K available but the 10600K isn't
Havent looked at 10th gen intel much, but i hear the 10500k is really good performance for money
10600K and 10700K has not any difference that I would say makes it a better choice
10700K is in stock soooo
Im probably jumping to amd for my next build
Same
Amd had a pretty exciting year
Don't really care about Intel, they still suck at not gaming
And plus, the FPS difference is a joke
While intels just like hurr durr, heres 2 more cores and 100 mhz extra turbo
I love their marketing tho
Whatever the hell it is in them that keeps it cool
Their marketing ain't bad
Maybe?
"You guys have more cores, but we take the crown in real world performance"
At least all CPUs have hyperthread!
"Real world performance"
"Real world peformance"
Unless there is a better white motherboard for AMD, I'll go AMD.
only has real world performance lead in gaming
"We blow your cpus out of the water in gaming, and thats all people care about"
Maybe
ryzen comes within single percent difference in fps
But how about their server CPUs?
afaik Intel was winning in something
And plus, Linus still likes them just because Intel loves Linus haha
"You should stop looking at benchmarks and look at instead the impact we are having on the cpu market"
He's had better experience with Intel when coming to like, server stuff
Gotta hand it to them, at least they are still trying to spin it to make them look good
240mm aio
Makes sense
Gets pretty toasty tho
Yeah OC is no fun with the heat
Need to do an open loop, but that shits expensive
I'm surprised how with how the cable organization in my PC ain't the best, my GPU still only maxs out on 60 celsius
It's in between "Meh, cables are kind of not important" and "Don't wanna have to make it really shit"
True
Trying to buy that first
I think you just need the delid and that will do it
Delid is definitely on the cards
Was just waiting on noctua to release their NF F12 black edition
Coz tl;dr the fans on my aio run off a hub which doesnt get any input from my mobo
So i cant control the speeds
Dang
And they are locked at like 800 rpm
I'm looking forward to getting an AIO
And im stuck between spending money on a temporary fix, or saving up and going all out on a permanent fix
Mm
Temporary fix would be to buy a pair of noctuas and run them off my mobo
Or permanent i do a full open loop with corsair fans running off the corsair hub
So it doesn't matter if the product I want on Amazon isn't sold by Amazon or not fulfilled by Amazon?
Yeah, I'd just check for like
If it's used or not
And see how much the price is to the MSRP
I'd also like to have all the parts be on Amazon.
That'd be kind of tough depending on what you're trying to get
If you're buying from a third party seller you can see what rating they have on Amazon, the condition of the product and what not
If its New or otherwise
What rating threshold should it be at?
Probably 90+% positive
Well its a simple decision, if they have over 4 stars and hundreds of reviews that tends to mean they're a good seller
If you live in USA, you should have microcenters which are pretty good from what i hear
Good stock and good prices
Yeah
Nearest Microcenter to me is in a virus epicenter.
f
Detroit.
Forget about the virus, there's another problem altogether 
"In store pickup"
Detroit is always the first place to go in apocalypse movies
Because Detroit has poor healthcare.
But yeah unfortunately Microcenter is super widespread so its only in select areas
I think they have like less than 30 locations?
Not sure, we dont have them over here
But a few of my american friends wont shut up about them
Oh wow they have 9 locations from what I can tell
Yeah
No hang on
Not a lot
I'm dumb
And i just sit here crying about $2000+ 2080tis
Those location names are weird and wack
Its alright, the 3080 will make the 2080ti look smol probably 
And inevitably cost about 3-4 grand over here
How is the Asus Thor power supplies?
They look dope
Why did the people who found it decided it to be Flushing
And in true asus style they have killer heat sinks
Are they good?
But power delivery is a bit unstable for the price you pay
What about flushing?
Not to say they are bad
So stick with Corsair?
But youd hope they would be better
Please tell me you can paint PSUs.
Main appeal of them is that they are dead quite 90% of the time
I live only 1 hr 33 mins from a Micro
Plus they have those mini displays
If I had a jet ski, it'd be way less
That motherboard deal they have with cpus is pretty sick
$429 750W white PSUs, amazing.
Yeah
High demand, low stock
Or just really low stock overall
And the white premium bullcrap
I cant even imagine spending more than $300 nzd on a psu
Hm
Yeah
1 hr 33 min for quickest, avoids like the entire shit of I-95 which a shitload of people went onto and blocked traffic on, using I-95 takes a whole 30 minutes more for some reason, and the usual train/walking
300 here would get you like a 750 watt platinum
750W Platinum is dumb though
Aren't there laws against price gouging though?
Not if it's for good reason
Or does that only apply to the hand sanitizer bandits?
Like low stock/high demands usually
Contextual mostly
Hand sanitizers and toilet paper had high demand = price rose
You arent allowed to price gouge necessities like fuel or medical supplies
Is it the equivalent of arguing with a craigslist gaming PC seller who sells the PC for triple its actual value?
Probably
I'd just avoid or wait
Facebook marketplace is a good meme as well
Fah See Boohk
Fakeybook
Saw a guy the other day selling a computer with 3 R9 280s for a grand
Hahahaha
But it was built inside a milk crate
What the fuck
Imagine the 0% scaling with tri-fire
Of a GPU that's equivalent to a... I dunno a 950 or something
The only parts I cannot get on Amazon is the processor, case, PSU, QVO 2TB SSD, and cooler.
You can't get the processor?
Look for it in other retailers
Wait you're still looking to get the 10600k?
And 10700K
Yeah that's not even worth it
Which isn't worth it imo
10400, 10700k aren't worth it
The thing is its a side grade from what you have already
I'd rather have as many new parts as possible I guess.
I don't feel comfortable dismantling a PC yet except to get the GPU I want to use to put in the new build.
Yeah, don't do it until everything except your 2080 is added in
Its not that big of a deal, you're basically planning to put one together right?
Yeah
Alright let's move along, this is about pc build help/tech talk.
In any case, I did find a used $90 Z370 board if you're interested Shawn
Um it is technically, but if he's going for a specific look this likely works
I guess?
Its an Asus Prime board, not amazing but it should work fine
Oh hold the phone
Oh its a bid race nevermind 
Lmaooo
Rog Strix board someone bid 55 and its got under 3 days left
So yeah that's the prime board, you can buy it now for 90
Is there any better white motherboard than prime?
Ah 
You can always look
In terms of z370/90, i dont think so
Black on white
You could always just paint it tho
True
The ROG Strix board I saw was grey with white heatsinks
But also meh
Do I need to stick with my 8700K?
8700K is a great CPU
You don't need to, but there's no reason to sidegrade you know
I don't really wanna paint the GPU, the mobo is okay since a Taichi seems good and I don't mind a small amount of black cause the Lian Li 011-d is gonna have some black either way
What makes it a sidegrade?
10600K is 6, 8700K is 8
I'm pretty sure the 10600K achieves similar clocks too
No no the 9700K is the 8 core
I thought 8700K had 8?
8700k is 6.
Goddamn I've been bamboozled
What? 
I just want new parts. I don't really want to dismantle my old computer completely just to get the CPU. I want to keep the current PC as backup in case something goes wrong when I try to build.
You're just gonna have the PC still there anyways
You're getting a full build, aside from CPU and GPU
I just think there is no point forking out for a new mobo AND cpu for what is a very minor step up in performance
Now technically if you weren't adamant about having some kind of white motherboard, the process would be simple
Yeah
You wouldn't need to remove the cpu from the socket
I'm just waiting to get a 4700X
Just replace the thermal paste and cooler
And RAM
All it would take is moving the motherboard to a new case
Unless RAM is good
2 solid green 8 GB 2666 sticks.
Honestly, very little can go wrong with building a comp if you arent an idiot
Wow Ibuypower shafting their customers
My grandmother could build a PC in under 10 minutes! /s
I just want to buy new parts, I don't really want to reuse any parts except for the GPU.
20 years ago, electro static discharge was a huge concern
Yeah that's mostly gone now
Now its basically a ghost story
There's probably like a once a blue moon kind of freak accident where something like that could maybe happen
Not that im saying its good practice, but ive put together a few comps while wearing socks on carpet
now you gotta do the running man on a carpet while wearing socks to even get a chance of that happening 
Actually i did build a computer on my bed once
Is it easy to clean a graphics card?
On a nice staticy mink blanket
Its humid AF where I live so it probably wouldn't matter 
Graphics csrds arent hard
Do you have to dismantle the card to clean it?
No
if you wanna clean it thoroughly yea
For an absolute deep clean sure
Like, unscrew the shroud and fans and individually clean each parts?
Unless you're gonna replace thermals at the core
You can just blast compressed air through the heat sink