#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk

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torn ferry
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I probably should just stick with a Corsair case or something.

restive garnet
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corsair cases for the most part are pretty good

torn ferry
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I want the Crystal 570X but is it still good?

restive garnet
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by memory

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the 570x is basically just a narrow version of my 680x

torn ferry
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Then what is the 465x?

restive garnet
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the 465 is definitely the thing version of the 680 lmao

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ive heard decent things about the 570 tho

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in terms of specs, it looks decent

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GPU clearance is above average

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so if you have a long ass card like a strix, no issues there

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got a touch over 70mm for fans and radiators if you want to go extensive liquid cooling

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or slap a 240mm up top, if you want a low profile/aesthetic based build

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going through a few reviews, it seems half decent

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airflow is better than most comparable cases, slightly harder to work in tho, especially when it comes to cable management

torn ferry
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I just want a good white case that is RGB heavy.

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Or any colored case except for harsh colors like orange or red.

restive garnet
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fuck that

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black or white imo

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keep it neutral, then you can do whatever theme you want

vapid crypt
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The elusive gunmetal Grey PirateSimon

torn ferry
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I initially wanted the Enermax Saberay, but it seems to be made of mostly plastic.

restive garnet
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looks like something cougar would make

vapid crypt
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Except without airflow phaWesker

restive garnet
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lmao

torn ferry
restive garnet
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that all looks like deal breakers to me

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really not a fan of acrylic

brisk badger
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The problem with white stuff is that over time it doesnt look white anymore

restive garnet
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it scratches up way to easily

torn ferry
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How is the iCue 220T?

vapid crypt
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A lot of those old computer cases that were typically white ended up yellowing and becoming off white or beige

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I don't know if that's something they've improved on

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But you know

restive garnet
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the 220T looks like its gunna be clearance issues left right and center

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youd have to be particularly careful about what you put in it

torn ferry
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Obsidian 500D RGB SE?

brisk badger
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Sun can also affect the white color

abstract kite
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220T has good airflow but you’re limited in placement of radiators and the like

restive garnet
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the obsidian definitely wouldnt have clearance issues

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and you get decent options for radiators and the like

torn ferry
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Does the iBuyPower Snowblind Element case not exist anymore?

restive garnet
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cant say im overly familiar with ibuypower

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im a kiwi, so we dont get a lot of that sort of stuff

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hell, you can only get like 1 cougar case over here

vapid crypt
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I doubt you would even buy their cases as is, you would have to get it with a system

torn ferry
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I heard it was a case that had an LCD panel screen.

vapid crypt
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Since they're an SI

restive garnet
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you can make your own screened panels

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i remember seeing a reddit post on it

vapid crypt
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Unless of course there's an OEM of the same case or something

restive garnet
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side question, do you have any idea what mobo form factor you wanna do?

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or case form factor?

torn ferry
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I know I don't want EATX or Mini ITX.

restive garnet
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safe bet

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odds are you wouldnt be looking at EATX anyway

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they are mostly for high end desktop platforms

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like intel I9s or AMD threadrippers

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if you didnt mind dropping to an MATX, you could go for a corsair 280x

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they come in white and look absolutely fantastic

vapid crypt
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EATX is an inconsistent form factor, there doesn't seem to be an acceptable standard for it from what I understand. Sometimes its just a longer ATX board, other times its just bigger in general phaSheva

restive garnet
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^

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EATX unofficially means bigger than ATX

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because there is no offical

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sorta stupid

torn ferry
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I can't find the white 280x anywhere.

restive garnet
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even asus cant make a consistent EATX board size

vapid crypt
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Sort of weird to build a case to support since it can vary

restive garnet
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i mean, it just has to have the standard 9 pin standoffs, after that its just clearance

torn ferry
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Are there any differences between the 280x RGB and the normal 280x or is it just the included fans?

restive garnet
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not just the included fans

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but almost

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the RGB version also comes with a corsair lighting node pro

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thats literally it

torn ferry
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But anything else besides lighting?

restive garnet
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nope

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just the fans and the lighting node

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which you can buy seperately

torn ferry
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I want the B450 Mortar Titanium motherboard, but it seems discontinued.

restive garnet
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whats the manufacturer?

torn ferry
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MSI.

restive garnet
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it probably has been

torn ferry
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I need a white or mostly white motherboard to fit the color schemes.

restive garnet
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B550 has just come out

torn ferry
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Or silver that looks like white.

restive garnet
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and white parts are usually done in small runs

torn ferry
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PcPartPicker doesn't have B550.

restive garnet
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because its new

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like

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really

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really

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new

torn ferry
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Let's see what is on Intel's side.

restive garnet
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z390/z490

torn ferry
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mATX.

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Or can I just plastidip the motherboard?

restive garnet
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thats a full size ATX

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but its a mostly white high end mobo

torn ferry
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I see, but now I need a good ATX case that is in stock. XD

restive garnet
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lmao

vapid crypt
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Well a good ATX case that is both white and full of RGB PirateSimon

restive garnet
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id wholeheartedly recommend the 680x, except that its an absolute behemoth

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it takes a lot of desk space

torn ferry
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STRIX Z490-A or the Prime Z490-A?

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Which is better?

restive garnet
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strix

torn ferry
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What makes Strix better?

vapid crypt
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Prime is their lower end brand

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TUF would be a decent second to Strix

restive garnet
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prime is mostly aimed at business/entry level

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TUF is budget friendly gaming

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also generally true to their name

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designed to take a beating

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strix is entry level enthusiast

torn ferry
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Wonderful. 680X, $78 in shipping, amazing.

restive garnet
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then you get all the maximus/crosshair etc which are full blown enthusiast

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RIP you

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i got mine with free shipping

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because it was across town

eternal cairn
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Ew, $68 for shipping?

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What site is this?

restive garnet
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also, by across town, i mean like

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15km

torn ferry
restive garnet
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probably check out local tech shops first

vapid crypt
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That must be shipping from over seas

restive garnet
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see if you can pick it up, or get cheaper delivery

eternal cairn
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Amazon, you traitor. You're buying it from Amazon or the manufacturer right? Not from one of the Amazon sellers?

torn ferry
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"Available from these sellers"

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Well, Newegg has the black case in stock.

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What is the difference between the 465x and the 570x?

restive garnet
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570 has less PSU clearance

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so you might have to be careful about what PSU you use

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sorry, 465 has less clearance

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the 570 can also fit 2x140mm fans up top, while the 465 can only fit 1, or 2x120

torn ferry
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$360 for white PSU, delicious.

brisk badger
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really, consider paintint if you are that into white color

restive garnet
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465 can also fit 4 2.5 inch drives, as opposed to the 670 at 2

torn ferry
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I don't want to void warranty on parts.

eternal cairn
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Yeah, don't buy it from Amazon then if it says "available from these sellers".

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It's just people trying to rip you off.

restive garnet
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other consideration, if the case has a full PSU shroud, you wouldnt even be able to see the PSU

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also, with regards to the amazon thing

brisk badger
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how do you even know you VOID your warranty?

restive garnet
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apparently they ship from italy

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lul

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warranties are tricky things

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generally look at the companies warranty policy either online, or on the warranty book they usually give you when you buy something

brisk badger
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or... send them an email

restive garnet
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sending them an email can be a good option

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but sometimes it wont help

brisk badger
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most manufacturers are totally chill

restive garnet
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sometimes they wont get back to you, sometimes english is a secondary language and half the shit they say is unclear

brisk badger
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learn how to email bomb

torn ferry
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Would a black PSU look bad in a white case or would it be fine?

restive garnet
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depends on other black elements within the case

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if its just the PSU, itll look really out of place

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if its basically everything, it wouldnt look terrible

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in any case, just get something with a full cover PSU shroud and you wont have to worry

torn ferry
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And I don't feel like waiting half a year for stock and prices to be back in order.

restive garnet
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like, the 680x being dual chamber, you cant even see the power supply

brisk badger
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for example how to not void the warranty of the GPU. Unmount the fan + heatsink. Unmount backplate. Repaint. Profit.

torn ferry
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The 570x seems to have a PSU shroud.

brisk badger
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Something gone wrong. Buy a new fan + heatsink + backplate. Install this.Send it for warranty. Profit

torn ferry
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PCPartPicker, please add an in stock filter.

restive garnet
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the 570 does have a shroud, but its partial cover

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covers everything except for a little window that shows the power supply logo

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naturally designed for corsair PSUs, it looks pretty nice with a matching PSU tho

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the 465 on the other hand has a complete shroud

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no window

torn ferry
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Best Buy has a black 850W PSU for $160.

restive garnet
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what model?

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PSUs you have to be a wee bit careful about

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if you get a high quality one, itll last a decade or more

torn ferry
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RMx (2018).

restive garnet
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low quality, and you risk killing your whole system

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corsair RM series is there entry level stuff

torn ferry
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Is that good or bad?

abstract kite
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Smh I have a RM850x

restive garnet
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not really either

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corsair make great power supplies

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its just balancing power efficiency and fan noise, plus extra features

abstract kite
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Now that johnnyguru is on the corsair team their PSUs are pretty good.

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If it wasnt for him, I would have stuck with EVGA or Seasonic

torn ferry
restive garnet
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EVGA make some pretty good power supplies as well, but mostly i like them for their killer warranties

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they generally top everyone else by about 2 years

abstract kite
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^ Is why I only buy EVGA GPUs

restive garnet
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and they barely give a fuck what you do to them

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im an ASUS man through and through

vapid crypt
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Hmm

restive garnet
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but i have a pretty deep seated respect for EVGA

vapid crypt
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You have an 8700K right Shawn?

torn ferry
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Yea.

vapid crypt
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Why bother upgrading to 10th gen at all then?

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TBH its a sidegrade

restive garnet
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^

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i agree

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as a current 8700k user

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i dont see any reason to swap to a whole new chipset for a very minor upgrade

torn ferry
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So use the 8700k I have or is it difficult to reuse CPUs?

restive garnet
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yes and no

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just gotta double check sockets

torn ferry
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How do I know if it's still good though?

vapid crypt
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As long as the motherboard compatible that's all that matters

torn ferry
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How will I know if iBuyPower didn't mess it up or something?

restive garnet
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look at benchmarks generally

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oh

vapid crypt
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Mess what up?

restive garnet
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you mean if its still good to reuse

vapid crypt
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You can't mess up a cpu really

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Outside of putting too much voltage through it

restive garnet
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tell that to linus lmaoooo

vapid crypt
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Or if its PGA bending the pins phaWesker

torn ferry
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There aren't any good white Z390 motherboards.

restive garnet
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z370 doesnt have pins tho 😛

vapid crypt
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Right its LGA

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Just gotta worry about the socket...

restive garnet
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low profile contacts, basically fool proof

vapid crypt
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Um what motherboard do you have already?

restive garnet
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just make sure that whatever you move it to is still an LGA 1151 socket, and is new enough to have BIOS for 8th gen intel

vapid crypt
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Well its Z370 or Z390 those are the only supporting chipsets right?

restive garnet
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nope

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B250

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or 350

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not sure which

vapid crypt
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Oh he budget chipsets

torn ferry
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AsRock Z370 IB-R.

restive garnet
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yeah

vapid crypt
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Well it makes sense to get the Z ones

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Since its an unlocked part regardless

restive garnet
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enthusiast chipsets

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yum

torn ferry
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Though it is iBuyPower branded.

restive garnet
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multicore optimizations, overclocking support, better power delivery

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probably one of those side grade things sold only to SIs

vapid crypt
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Oh right I forget the SIs like to customize boards

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So its a custom Asrock board

torn ferry
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And now that I look closer at the board,

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I see one of the cooler screws are bent.

restive garnet
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lmao

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thanks ibuypower

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tbf, im surprised they didnt just glue it down

vapid crypt
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They obviously used power to force that screw in phaWesker

torn ferry
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What is the plate thing called that the tubes are coming from?

restive garnet
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but did they buy that power?🤔

vapid crypt
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Uh waterblock right?

torn ferry
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The thing you screw down onto the heatsink.

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That is dangerously close to the fan.

restive garnet
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uh

vapid crypt
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Is it one of those 120mm Asatek AIOs

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They tend to use them

torn ferry
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Unsure.

restive garnet
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is it an all in one liquid cooler?

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or is it an air cooler

torn ferry
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120mm, yes.

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120mm AIO.

restive garnet
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ah ye

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probably a bit inadequate for an 8700k imo

vapid crypt
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I think they use rebranded MSI and Asatek AIOs

torn ferry
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So yea, I want an upgrade and to build my first ever computer.

restive garnet
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arent MSI asatek based anyway?

vapid crypt
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Actually Its not something I know about, I guess specifically MSI then. I recall hearing they're in the same building

torn ferry
restive garnet
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what sort of budget are you on?

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thats probably a very important thing to know

abstract kite
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Almost every AIO is Asatek tmk

restive garnet
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yeah, most are

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corsair and EVGA both use asatek

torn ferry
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No more than $3500.

restive garnet
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anything you want to reuse from your current comp?

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or anything you think is worth reusing?

vapid crypt
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Recently various companies have been making their own versions where the pump is built into the block instead of the radiator

torn ferry
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The graphics card, but it wouldn't fit in a white build.

restive garnet
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asetek is pump in block

vapid crypt
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Really I swear it was in the radiator phaSheva

restive garnet
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nah, im using an asetek right now

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can guarantee its in the block

brisk badger
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for 3500$ i paint you every GPU white and guarantue you won't void your warranty

restive garnet
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id reuse it anyway

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either paint it or dont

torn ferry
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The RTX 2080 I was given is the Ventus OC model.

restive garnet
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white graphics cards are few and far between

brisk badger
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You can maybe buy a custom GPU air cooler and paint it white

vapid crypt
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Oh wait maybe its their original patent design that was in the radiator? I know I heard something like that, I guess they aren't designing them that way anymore?

restive garnet
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afaik, their patent has always been in block

brisk badger
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or make an inquiry to the manufacturer. with that badget it's not unlikely

restive garnet
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companies are doing them in the rad to get around it

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its an RTX 2080, itd be a good thing in the budget to keep it

torn ferry
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What screwdriver and sizes do I need to dismantle the card?

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And to take it out of the old PC?

restive garnet
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to take it out of the old PC, youd only need to remove the screw from the expansion ports in the back, and then pop the little clip open on the motherboard PCIE slot

brisk badger
restive garnet
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you can probably just eyeball the expansion port, usually its just a generic phillips or flathead screw driver

brisk badger
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in this example it's super easy to repaint. you can just disassemble the black frame and paint that.

restive garnet
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as for teardown, i have no idea

vapid crypt
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Could get one of those Morpheus heatsinks for the GPU and put white fans on it

restive garnet
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its probably also a consideration that whatever case you get, youd also need to put more fans in it

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and if you want it to be something like the video you linked, youd want some decent RGB fans

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like corsair LL series fans

torn ferry
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Do I need the QL fans?

restive garnet
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probably not

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LL look fantastic as is

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if they are the same price, then sure, why not

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but i doubt they are

torn ferry
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Could I reuse my PSU despite that it's a thermaltake one?

restive garnet
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you could

vapid crypt
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I don't see why you couldn't

restive garnet
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personally im not a fan of thermaltake stuff

torn ferry
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I believe it's 650W.

restive garnet
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but i dont see why not

vapid crypt
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They aren't bad, but they're pretty picky with the warranty

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They won't honor the warranty if the unit was purchased from Amazon, Ebay and the like

brisk badger
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it's mostly fine, unless your upgrade exceeds the limit.
That said.... having a second PSU lying around for testing or replacement is worth gold

restive garnet
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^^^

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i have an old corsair SF600 sitting under my bed for that exact reason

vapid crypt
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Heheh that reminds me how I swapped out my power supply after a few months

restive garnet
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literally never had to use it tho

vapid crypt
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The old one isn't broken, but I'm not confident in it lasting long. Buyers remorse if you will.

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I still have it though, just in case phaSheva

brisk badger
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i think every pc guy will face this one day: "Is it my PSU or is component XY?"

restive garnet
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at some point, probably

brisk badger
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yea. a good psu for every day is still grea

restive garnet
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at this point tho, i know my PSU is a solid unit, and every time ive tested it, it runs fine

brisk badger
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t

vapid crypt
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Was thinking of just using it for a second pc, but I don't really have use for a second one that I can think of atm

restive garnet
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only reason i have that SF600 is because i bought it for a case that i couldnt find what power supply it took, because none of the reviews said, and the documentation was in chinese

brisk badger
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servers!!!🥳

restive garnet
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ended up being atx rather than sfx

vapid crypt
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Hmm maybe, whenever I upgrade I'll have a 2600 and RX 580 on hand so phaWesker

restive garnet
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so i picked up an EVGA supernova G2, and the SF600 is still in its original packaging under my bed lol

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im at the same point

brisk badger
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In my cellar there is around 12 PSUs and I had only one that died which was the most expensive one. What an irony he

restive garnet
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strix mitx z370 board with an 8700k and a 1080ti

brisk badger
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it was an Corsair AX860

restive garnet
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im thinking about getting a silverstone raven rvz03

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reusing my parts for an HTPC for the lounge

brisk badger
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under your bed? if you live in the north, then that's actually BIG BRAIN

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but I remember you said something about kiwis, so I fear the opposite

restive garnet
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i live in new zealand

brisk badger
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LOL

restive garnet
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so

brisk badger
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doesn't it get warm?

restive garnet
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we had the hottest year in a few decades last year

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peaked at like 43C

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lmao

brisk badger
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oops, I misread. I thought your pc is under the bed

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but it's the packaging 🤯

restive garnet
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nah, my PC is on top of my desk

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taking up a good third of my desk space

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while my monitor takes up the other 2 thirds

brisk badger
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beauty has its price

restive garnet
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that it does

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and low desk space is apparently that price

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i cant even fit my keyboard on my desk

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it just perpetually sits in my lap

brisk badger
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is it a bigger keyboard

restive garnet
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full sized razer black widow

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its just the monitor is gigantic

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desk is like 600mm from front to back

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monitor takes up about 500mm ish

brisk badger
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50cm?! Are you using a CRT

restive garnet
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nope

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THICC ultrawide

brisk badger
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because of the stand that huge gap?

restive garnet
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pretty much

brisk badger
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not possible to turn the feet?

restive garnet
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possible, but not idea

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ideal

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the panel itself weighs a tonne

brisk badger
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considered a wallmount?

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yea i guess

restive garnet
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and the balancing on it is very delicate

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i did consider a wallmount, but ultimately decided not to

torn ferry
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Don't all games not support ultrawide?

brisk badger
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it's a trick question

restive garnet
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pretty much

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depends how the developers code the game

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some games let you run whatever resolution you want, but anchor the HUD to specific resolution points

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some anchor them to relative points

brisk badger
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put a desk in front of your desk. THe only solution I can think of right now

restive garnet
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gunna build a new desk

brisk badger
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or that

restive garnet
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use this one as a work bench

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problem is, everything is closed up from corona virus atm

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and while ive settled on a design, i cant get the timber i need till restrictions ease

torn ferry
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I want a particular gaming desk but I'm unsure if Newegg is trustworthy.

fleet canopy
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I wouldn't go for everything with "Gaming"

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Go for a nice desk

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Any will work

eternal cairn
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Newegg is pretty good, but I've heard bad things about their eBay listings.

fleet canopy
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Mine is just a homemade wooden board made by my dad

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And it fits everything I need, possibly more if I cleaned it

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Definitely more*

torn ferry
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The one desk by Cougar looks cool.

fleet canopy
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Ooh

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Looks pretty nice

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I like the carbon fiber look

torn ferry
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I feel that one has the best lighting of the ones I've looked at.

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Or is the EWIN one better?

fleet canopy
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Ehh, feels like it's p small

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48 inches long, 26.8 inches wide, 30 inches tall

vapid crypt
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Hard to tell how big these things are by looking at em tbh

fleet canopy
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Impossible*

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Could be literally any size haha

vapid crypt
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That being said I wonder how big my desk is now

fleet canopy
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The Cougar Mars looks p nice

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But if you really want to have that kind of desk, just be sure haha

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I would def get myself a desk that had a carbon fiber graphic

fleet canopy
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260$ for a desk

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kek

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I uhh

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dislike how it seems to fit only one monitor

vapid crypt
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You can add stuff to it to make it more expensive PirateSimon

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Like a $300 chair

fleet canopy
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Like an unnecessary cup holder GWjianGodLUL

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Or that uhh

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Really bad idea of a PC uhh

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Thingy

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Whatever that is

vapid crypt
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Actually those things come with the desk

fleet canopy
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Yeah but unnecessary imo

vapid crypt
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The use of Alienware is insulting

fleet canopy
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Yes

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Insulting

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Alienware cases are ugly

torn ferry
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At least it's not the R9.

vapid crypt
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What?

fleet canopy
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At least it's not one of those big ol ugly cases that's like

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An xbox with no sharp edges

torn ferry
vapid crypt
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And its also the smallest desk

fleet canopy
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Which one?

torn ferry
fleet canopy
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That desk seems pretty okay, but price barf

vapid crypt
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These desks just seem pointless

fleet canopy
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But if that's the average for desks, then wtf

torn ferry
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You think that's bad?

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Look at this shit by Thermaltake:

fleet canopy
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However the the Z60 seems fairly okay with me

fleet canopy
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There's no unnecessary stuff with it

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Ahem

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"Level 20 RGB"

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What

vapid crypt
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Its the name of the desk phaWesker

fleet canopy
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Oh

torn ferry
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The RGB element is just a mousepad as large as the desk.

vapid crypt
#

Thermaltake has a Level XX brand

fleet canopy
#

Ah

#

I'd just get a nice, dark colored desk

#

Black, and definitely with a carbon fiber graphic, it looks mega good

#

No RGB, no distractions

#

But so many

vapid crypt
#

I have a tinted tempered glass desk, and I got it for nothing cause someone was getting rid of it phaWesker

fleet canopy
#

Not needed stuff

#

Like a cup holder

#

Or a PC thing move move thingy

torn ferry
#

If you want it on the ground but not on the ground.

fleet canopy
#

Nah it's just meh

#

Honestly I would have liked it perhaps

torn ferry
#

You can put the PC on the desk if you wanted to.

#

It's just there for if you don't want it on the desk.

fleet canopy
#

Might actually be a great idea on second thought

torn ferry
#

That cart thing is better than setting the PC on the floor.

fleet canopy
#

It'd give a lot of space for monitors, etc.

torn ferry
#

Since if it's on the floor, more dust.

#

But if it's on a raised surface, no problem.

fleet canopy
#

Nah some of them uhh

#

It looks like I can't really fit a case?

#

Unless it were SFF

#

But mmm, having carbon fiber

vapid crypt
#

It could as you leave the space for it

torn ferry
#

I feel the Cougar desk is the best one.

vapid crypt
#

Obviously if you have like 2 or 3 big monitors that's not gonna happen so phaWesker

torn ferry
#

I like that it lets you connect it to the PC to control the colors by software.

fleet canopy
#

I'm more likely just sticking with 2 monitors

#

Probably will keep both my monitors perhaps

torn ferry
#

I believe it also has a bracket at the back of the desk where you can rest a surge protector on.

fleet canopy
#

Gaming with a window in front of everything

#

How??

vapid crypt
#

Doesn't even have the shades down

torn ferry
#

What do you think of the desk so far?

fleet canopy
#

smh

#

not a gamer man

#

The desk seems nice I guess

vapid crypt
#

I don't really have an opinion, its like a "gamer" chair you know

fleet canopy
#

Is there like a minimalistic desk with just carbon fiber on it though?

#

Cause I really like that look, not including everything else in it like RGB, etc.

vapid crypt
#

Its cool I guess, but unnecessary and expensive considering the alternatives

fleet canopy
#

Yeah

vapid crypt
#

And I mean that for any so called gaming desk

fleet canopy
#

Legs lookin thicc 👀

torn ferry
fleet canopy
#

I wouldn't really care about a cupholder

torn ferry
#

Though I believe the cup holder and headphone hook is optional and can be left off the desk.

#

The Eureka desks let you buy them with monitor arms.

restive garnet
#

tbh, just build your own desk

fleet canopy
#

There's that option?

restive garnet
#

figure out what sort of desk you want, figure out what dimensions you can have, look up some designs for inspiration, and plan it all out on sketchup

#

then you have a desk that can fit as many monitors as you want on it 😛

fleet canopy
#

Mm, custom

restive garnet
#

if you want the carbon fibre look, just get some carbon fibre vinyl wrap off amazon

fleet canopy
#

But I wonder where I could get them for that

restive garnet
#

worst case scenario, go talk to a cabinet maker

#

or just go do the youtuber special

fleet canopy
#

Well uhh

restive garnet
#

go to ikea, get two sets of drawers and a door 😛

fleet canopy
#

I have no idea where to get myself any kind of custom

restive garnet
#

ez desk

#

as i said before, work out what you want, and build it

fleet canopy
#

Yeah I get the idea, just dunno where I can get them really

restive garnet
#

get what?

fleet canopy
#

The things I need for a desk

#

Never really knew you could get custom ones, so yeah

restive garnet
#

for the most part, its just timber

#

if you plan it out on sketchup, you can figure out what lengths of wood you need, and most places that sell timber will cut it to size for you as well

fleet canopy
#

Think getting timber desk will be the easy part, since my dad can help with that part

restive garnet
#

other than that, most of what you need can be gotten at most hardware stores

#

probably just wood glue, screws/nails, maybe some L brackets if you need them

#

a wood stain and a clear coat

#

anything else, amazon is your best friend

#

you can get cable trays to attach to the back of your desk to help deal with cable clutter for a couple of bucks

#

headphone stands are fairly cheap as well

#

hell, you could even get yourself a cup holder 😉

#

my desk has a mini bar in it, so skies the limit 😛

torn ferry
#

Wow, $915 on Amazon for the Cougar desk.

lilac geyser
#

oops wrong channel

fleet canopy
#

Well, that's neat tbh

lilac geyser
#

there are always people who try to take advantage of a bad situation, but come on, don't they know that a stolen iphone is going to be disabled

#

it seems pretty clear apple can track iphones

fleet canopy
#

Who wouldn't

torn ferry
#

$1300 for a used RTX 2080. Yea.

late sorrel
#

as if

fleet canopy
#

lmao

#

Probably shit prices at their location tbh

torn ferry
#

$880 for a RTX 2080 Super, is that normal?

#

Nevermind, I'm unsure if it's sold by Amazon.

fleet canopy
#

700$ is the MSRP for a 2080 Super

torn ferry
#

Should I not buy any product that does not say "Fulfilled by Amazon"?

fleet canopy
#

Uhhh

#

Not sure?

#

I don't see why not having that should be a problem

torn ferry
#

All it says is "Ships from and sold by Fateka USA."

restive garnet
#

Fulfilled by amazon means its an item already stored in an amazon warehouse

fleet canopy
#

Fateka?

#

Ah

#

Yeah I wouldn't mind about it then

restive garnet
#

So they just slap a shipping label on it and send it to you

#

Meaning you are guaranteed to get what you order

#

Anything else sold through amazon is the same as ebay

#

Also, i believe they let you combine shipping on amazon fulfilled orders

torn ferry
#

Looking at a 2080 Super of the MSI Gaming X Trio model.

fleet canopy
#

Mm, 880$ seems like their average price for premium

restive garnet
#

Hold off on buying a new graphics card

fleet canopy
#

Or I could be wrong?

#

And yeah, don't buy GPU

#

You already have a 2080 dude

#

lmao

#

No point buying a super

#

No point in literally buying a GPU except the 3080

torn ferry
#

How can I check the current quality of the card to see if it will last longer or not?

restive garnet
#

Aside from that, rumor has it nvidia are anouncing Ampere GPUs in the next few months

fleet canopy
#

I wouldn't really worry about how long it lasts

#

It's supposed to come September

restive garnet
#

Are you talking about how long it will physically work for, or how long till it isnt performing to the required standard?

torn ferry
#

Until it isn't performing like you'd expect a new card to.

fleet canopy
#

It shouldn't really be a problem

#

2080 is mega good, should last until like

#

RTX 5000 becomes a thing

torn ferry
#

Like, how long until the performance regresses so much that it's noticeable?

fleet canopy
#

Actually RTX 5000 might be kind of quick

restive garnet
#

Depends what your monitor is like

fleet canopy
#

Performance shouldn't ever be lost over time

torn ferry
#

1400p 144 hz.

fleet canopy
#

Only way to know it'll crap itself is when it craps on you

#

Showing you lovely, beautiful GPU art

restive garnet
#

Idk, probably a few years at least

fleet canopy
#

I would expect at least like

#

5-10 years at the most lol

torn ferry
#

How long do cards typically last?

fleet canopy
#

For longevity, depends

restive garnet
#

Depends how much care you take of it

fleet canopy
#

For performance, that's probably like

#

Idk

restive garnet
#

I know people still running 10 year old cards

torn ferry
#

How do I know if my PC was built with a new card or a used one?

fleet canopy
#

No clue

restive garnet
#

Its from ibuypower

fleet canopy
#

I wouldn't really mind if it's used because manufactures would never put in used

restive garnet
#

Guarantee they wouldnt risk a used card

torn ferry
#

I bought it from Best Buy, so...

fleet canopy
#

If they did use a used card, that'd be a big problem

#

It's an ibuypower, shouldn't be a problem

restive garnet
#

^

torn ferry
#

I once asked a "Geek Squad Agent" to show proof that a system I was looking at had room for 3 fans on the front panel,

#

And guess what he does?

fleet canopy
#

Hah, that name for a company isn't actually bad

torn ferry
#

He breaks it.

restive garnet
#

Even if they didnt get into legal trouble, their name would become mud overnight

fleet canopy
#

Geek squad are stupid idiots

torn ferry
#

Did you know you don't need any tech support or IT experience or degrees to be a Geek Squad agent?

restive garnet
#

Yup

torn ferry
#

You just need 1 year of customer service experience.

fleet canopy
#

They're just like "So you know computers?"

torn ferry
#

"Hi, I'm here to fix your computer that I know nothing about,"

restive garnet
#

Most of the time its learning on the job, dealing with the same bullshit

fleet canopy
#

Amazon's tech support is more better iirc

restive garnet
#

Viruses, dust buildup etc

fleet canopy
#

Dust buildup, viruses, those are like

#

Literally the easiest things ever to exist

torn ferry
#

Viruses.

#

Solution: Don't download stupid shit.

fleet canopy
#

Slap in malwarebytes free premium

torn ferry
#

But Malwarebytes caused my PC to blue screen.

restive garnet
#

Thing is, you go to geeksquad for a reason

fleet canopy
#

Shouldn't do

#

Malwarebytes never been that bad lol

torn ferry
#

I removed Malwarebytes and I haven't gotten the blue screen yet.

fleet canopy
#

Yeah

#

It was probably a bad install

#

But it causing a blue screen

#

Wack

restive garnet
#

I guarantee most of their clients are home users who dont know how to look after their computers

fleet canopy
#

Indeed

torn ferry
#

I haven't cleaned my computer yet.

restive garnet
#

So itll always be the same stupid shit

fleet canopy
#

"My PC performs like shit and it won't download anything"

torn ferry
#

"I downloaded PC Optimizer Pro and it did shit,"

restive garnet
#

18 viruses and 4 pounds of dust later

fleet canopy
#

Disk full, probably viruses, shit that's useless, etc.

torn ferry
#

"I left the side panel off for more airflow."

fleet canopy
#

Hah

restive garnet
#

Hey, dont knock it till youve tried it

torn ferry
#

"Because Gamers Nexus shows that any case without the side panel performs better than stock,"

fleet canopy
#

lmao

#

"Than stock"

restive garnet
#

My old comp had such shit airflow i legitimately had to do it during summer

fleet canopy
#

lmao

torn ferry
#

"My PC overheats so much I fried an egg on the graphics card,"

restive garnet
#

Knocked about 20 degrees off the temp

fleet canopy
#

My old comp never really had that problem?

torn ferry
#

I am wondering though,

fleet canopy
#

It probably did, but it ran 15FPS on Payday 2

#

That was enough for me back then

restive garnet
#

Nice

torn ferry
#

Can you cook an egg in the Inwin 805 Infinity with how bad the thermals are?

restive garnet
#

Been there done that

fleet canopy
#

You can cook an egg on CPU

restive garnet
#

Used to run payday 2 on my laptop

torn ferry
#

I had a laptop.

#

It was an HP Omen one, it was shit.

fleet canopy
#

Got myself 1060 3GB, was great

restive garnet
#

Anything beginning with HP usually is ;)

torn ferry
#

GTX 960M.

restive garnet
#

I was running it on a laptop with an i3 3217U and 4 gigs of ram, no dedicated graphics

torn ferry
#

6700HQ.

fleet canopy
#

That is of course after my brother bought a 7700K, DDR4-2400MHz CAS16, Corsair uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Carbide Spec-03, 500 or 1TB HDD, Z270 Mark 2

torn ferry
#

8 GB 2666 RAM.

fleet canopy
#

2x8GB

restive garnet
#

I wish i could get more of my ram :(

torn ferry
#

Without the graphics card, my PC will be $1800.

fleet canopy
#

I wanna get a better PC than what I have atm

#

Most are meh except the CPU cooler and GPU

#

And probably the CPU, but I'm upgrading that either way

#

7700K gamers rise up

#

On other note, I really have to try overclocking it but also I see no point atm cause 1440p 60Hz lol

#

Dumbest mistake was getting a 2560x1440p 60Hz instead of a 1080p 144hz

#

Still haven't seen 144hz yet to this day

restive garnet
#

Probably no point in terms of FPS

torn ferry
#

Should I not buy parts on Amazon that aren't sold by Amazon?

restive garnet
#

But general responsiveness, sure

fleet canopy
#

2070 Super does 1440p 144hz epic, still need to buy 1440p 144hz

#

Amazon is amazon

restive garnet
#

Amazon is generally alright

fleet canopy
#

I've got every order from them

restive garnet
#

Just make sure to double check what you are buying

fleet canopy
#

Yeah

torn ferry
fleet canopy
#

Usually the "Amazon recommend" is the best safest choice

restive garnet
#

Know if its supposed to be new or used or w/e

fleet canopy
#

Ye

#

Going with Intel now, hm

#

Or you already were going with it, I dunno

#

Not worth getting samsung for m.2 tbh

torn ferry
#

What is better?

#

Corsair MP?

fleet canopy
#

It's a pretty top tier, but the price is shit, there's really no special difference tbh

restive garnet
#

Samsung are fantastic in the pcie 3.0 market

#

Albeit a wee bit expensive

fleet canopy
#

Their 2.5" is great either way

#

And plus, m.2 vs 2.5" will have absolutely no differences

restive garnet
#

All their sata stuff is also good yeah

fleet canopy
#

Only like 2-3 second but doesn't really matter

restive garnet
#

Corsair stuff tends to perform a bit worse than samsung for similar prices

torn ferry
#

Is the 10600k even on Amazon?

fleet canopy
#

I believe so yeah

restive garnet
#

But they have pcie 4.0 ssds

torn ferry
#

All I could find was the i5-10400

fleet canopy
#

Mm

#

Don't see it actually

#

How the fuck is the 10900K available but the 10600K isn't

restive garnet
#

Havent looked at 10th gen intel much, but i hear the 10500k is really good performance for money

fleet canopy
#

10600K and 10700K has not any difference that I would say makes it a better choice

#

10700K is in stock soooo

restive garnet
#

Im probably jumping to amd for my next build

fleet canopy
#

Same

restive garnet
#

Amd had a pretty exciting year

fleet canopy
#

Don't really care about Intel, they still suck at not gaming

#

And plus, the FPS difference is a joke

restive garnet
#

While intels just like hurr durr, heres 2 more cores and 100 mhz extra turbo

fleet canopy
#

kek

#

They're trying

#

Plus, their 10th gen has more uhhh

restive garnet
#

I love their marketing tho

fleet canopy
#

Whatever the hell it is in them that keeps it cool

#

Their marketing ain't bad

#

Maybe?

restive garnet
#

"You guys have more cores, but we take the crown in real world performance"

fleet canopy
#

At least all CPUs have hyperthread!

#

"Real world performance"

#

"Real world peformance"

torn ferry
#

Unless there is a better white motherboard for AMD, I'll go AMD.

fleet canopy
#

Gaming, sure

#

Work, no

restive garnet
#

only has real world performance lead in gaming

#

"We blow your cpus out of the water in gaming, and thats all people care about"

fleet canopy
#

Maybe

restive garnet
#

ryzen comes within single percent difference in fps

fleet canopy
#

But how about their server CPUs?

#

afaik Intel was winning in something

#

And plus, Linus still likes them just because Intel loves Linus haha

restive garnet
#

"You should stop looking at benchmarks and look at instead the impact we are having on the cpu market"

fleet canopy
#

He's had better experience with Intel when coming to like, server stuff

restive garnet
#

Gotta hand it to them, at least they are still trying to spin it to make them look good

fleet canopy
#

True

#

5.3GHz, some uhh not really important 2 core focused OC

restive garnet
#

I mean, my stock 8700k can hit 5.1 stable

#

All core

fleet canopy
#

True

#

Wild

#

Running a water loop?

restive garnet
#

240mm aio

fleet canopy
#

Makes sense

restive garnet
#

Gets pretty toasty tho

fleet canopy
#

Yeah OC is no fun with the heat

restive garnet
#

Need to do an open loop, but that shits expensive

fleet canopy
#

I'm surprised how with how the cable organization in my PC ain't the best, my GPU still only maxs out on 60 celsius

restive garnet
#

1440p 60 hz tho

#

Not exactly putting it through its paces

fleet canopy
#

It's in between "Meh, cables are kind of not important" and "Don't wanna have to make it really shit"

#

True

#

Trying to buy that first

vapid crypt
#

I think you just need the delid and that will do it

restive garnet
#

Delid is definitely on the cards

#

Was just waiting on noctua to release their NF F12 black edition

#

Coz tl;dr the fans on my aio run off a hub which doesnt get any input from my mobo

#

So i cant control the speeds

fleet canopy
#

Dang

restive garnet
#

And they are locked at like 800 rpm

fleet canopy
#

I'm looking forward to getting an AIO

restive garnet
#

And im stuck between spending money on a temporary fix, or saving up and going all out on a permanent fix

fleet canopy
#

Mm

restive garnet
#

Temporary fix would be to buy a pair of noctuas and run them off my mobo

#

Or permanent i do a full open loop with corsair fans running off the corsair hub

torn ferry
#

So it doesn't matter if the product I want on Amazon isn't sold by Amazon or not fulfilled by Amazon?

fleet canopy
#

Yeah, I'd just check for like

#

If it's used or not

#

And see how much the price is to the MSRP

torn ferry
#

I'd also like to have all the parts be on Amazon.

fleet canopy
#

That'd be kind of tough depending on what you're trying to get

vapid crypt
#

If you're buying from a third party seller you can see what rating they have on Amazon, the condition of the product and what not

#

If its New or otherwise

torn ferry
#

What rating threshold should it be at?

restive garnet
#

Probably 90+% positive

vapid crypt
#

Well its a simple decision, if they have over 4 stars and hundreds of reviews that tends to mean they're a good seller

restive garnet
#

If you live in USA, you should have microcenters which are pretty good from what i hear

#

Good stock and good prices

fleet canopy
#

Yeah

torn ferry
#

Nearest Microcenter to me is in a virus epicenter.

fleet canopy
#

f

torn ferry
#

Detroit.

restive garnet
#

F

#

Aw hell naw

fleet canopy
#

Nearest microcenter is virus epicenter too

#

New York

#

Or at least like

#

near LIS

vapid crypt
#

Forget about the virus, there's another problem altogether phaKrauser

torn ferry
#

"In store pickup"

restive garnet
#

Detroit is always the first place to go in apocalypse movies

fleet canopy
#

lmfao

#

Movies are pretty dumb

torn ferry
#

Because Detroit has poor healthcare.

vapid crypt
#

But yeah unfortunately Microcenter is super widespread so its only in select areas

#

I think they have like less than 30 locations?

restive garnet
#

Not sure, we dont have them over here

#

But a few of my american friends wont shut up about them

vapid crypt
#

Oh wow they have 9 locations from what I can tell

fleet canopy
#

Yeah

vapid crypt
#

No hang on

fleet canopy
#

Not a lot

vapid crypt
#

I'm dumb

fleet canopy
#

lmfao

#

I imagine about

#

20?

restive garnet
#

And i just sit here crying about $2000+ 2080tis

vapid crypt
#

25

#

Okay I was right

fleet canopy
#

Those location names are weird and wack

vapid crypt
#

Its alright, the 3080 will make the 2080ti look smol probably PirateSimon

fleet canopy
#

New York - Flushing

restive garnet
#

And inevitably cost about 3-4 grand over here

torn ferry
#

How is the Asus Thor power supplies?

restive garnet
#

They look dope

fleet canopy
#

Why did the people who found it decided it to be Flushing

restive garnet
#

And in true asus style they have killer heat sinks

torn ferry
#

Are they good?

restive garnet
#

But power delivery is a bit unstable for the price you pay

rapid plume
#

What about flushing?

restive garnet
#

Not to say they are bad

torn ferry
#

So stick with Corsair?

restive garnet
#

But youd hope they would be better

torn ferry
#

Please tell me you can paint PSUs.

restive garnet
#

Main appeal of them is that they are dead quite 90% of the time

fleet canopy
#

I live only 1 hr 33 mins from a Micro

restive garnet
#

Plus they have those mini displays

vapid crypt
fleet canopy
#

If I had a jet ski, it'd be way less

vapid crypt
#

That motherboard deal they have with cpus is pretty sick

torn ferry
#

$429 750W white PSUs, amazing.

fleet canopy
#

Yeah

#

High demand, low stock

#

Or just really low stock overall

#

And the white premium bullcrap

restive garnet
#

I cant even imagine spending more than $300 nzd on a psu

fleet canopy
#

300$ for like a 1000W is like

#

Too much?

restive garnet
#

Nzd is about 1.5 nzd to 1 ust

#

So thats closer to about 200 usd

fleet canopy
#

Hm

#

Yeah

#

1 hr 33 min for quickest, avoids like the entire shit of I-95 which a shitload of people went onto and blocked traffic on, using I-95 takes a whole 30 minutes more for some reason, and the usual train/walking

restive garnet
#

300 here would get you like a 750 watt platinum

fleet canopy
#

750W Platinum is dumb though

restive garnet
#

Yes and no

#

Efficiency at the wall would be through the roof on most systems

torn ferry
#

Aren't there laws against price gouging though?

fleet canopy
#

Not if it's for good reason

torn ferry
#

Or does that only apply to the hand sanitizer bandits?

fleet canopy
#

Like low stock/high demands usually

restive garnet
#

Contextual mostly

fleet canopy
#

Hand sanitizers and toilet paper had high demand = price rose

restive garnet
#

You arent allowed to price gouge necessities like fuel or medical supplies

fleet canopy
#

That, never

#

Only in cases inflation happens

torn ferry
#

Is it the equivalent of arguing with a craigslist gaming PC seller who sells the PC for triple its actual value?

restive garnet
#

Probably

fleet canopy
#

I'd just avoid or wait

restive garnet
#

Facebook marketplace is a good meme as well

fleet canopy
#

Fah See Boohk

vapid crypt
#

Fakeybook

restive garnet
#

Saw a guy the other day selling a computer with 3 R9 280s for a grand

fleet canopy
#

Fah See Book

#

lmfao wtf

vapid crypt
#

Hahahaha

restive garnet
#

But it was built inside a milk crate

fleet canopy
#

What the fuck

vapid crypt
#

Imagine the 0% scaling with tri-fire

restive garnet
#

Ill try find a link to it

vapid crypt
#

Of a GPU that's equivalent to a... I dunno a 950 or something

fleet canopy
#

Marketpalce not available

#

Gay.

torn ferry
#

The only parts I cannot get on Amazon is the processor, case, PSU, QVO 2TB SSD, and cooler.

vapid crypt
#

You can't get the processor?

fleet canopy
#

Look for it in other retailers

vapid crypt
#

Wait you're still looking to get the 10600k?

torn ferry
#

10600k doesn't exist on Amazon.

#

Only the 10400.

fleet canopy
#

And 10700K

vapid crypt
#

Yeah that's not even worth it

fleet canopy
#

Which isn't worth it imo

vapid crypt
#

10400, 10700k aren't worth it

torn ferry
#

Yea.

#

Which is why I went with 10600k.

vapid crypt
#

The thing is its a side grade from what you have already

torn ferry
#

I'd rather have as many new parts as possible I guess.

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I don't feel comfortable dismantling a PC yet except to get the GPU I want to use to put in the new build.

fleet canopy
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Yeah, don't do it until everything except your 2080 is added in

vapid crypt
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Its not that big of a deal, you're basically planning to put one together right?

fleet canopy
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Yeah

void perch
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Alright let's move along, this is about pc build help/tech talk.

vapid crypt
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In any case, I did find a used $90 Z370 board if you're interested Shawn

fleet canopy
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Don't all the 10th gen need a Z4xx?

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10600K and up

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Not sure abotu the other one

vapid crypt
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Well I'm recommending not bothering with the 10600k

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And continuing with his 8700k

fleet canopy
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Yeah it's not bad

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Motherboard swap seems unnecessary too

vapid crypt
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Um it is technically, but if he's going for a specific look this likely works

fleet canopy
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I guess?

vapid crypt
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Its an Asus Prime board, not amazing but it should work fine

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Oh hold the phone

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Oh its a bid race nevermind phaSheva

restive garnet
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Lmaooo

vapid crypt
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Rog Strix board someone bid 55 and its got under 3 days left

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So yeah that's the prime board, you can buy it now for 90

torn ferry
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Is there any better white motherboard than prime?

vapid crypt
fleet canopy
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You can always look

restive garnet
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In terms of z370/90, i dont think so

fleet canopy
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Black on white

restive garnet
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You could always just paint it tho

fleet canopy
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True

vapid crypt
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The ROG Strix board I saw was grey with white heatsinks

fleet canopy
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But also meh

torn ferry
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Do I need to stick with my 8700K?

fleet canopy
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8700K is a great CPU

vapid crypt
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You don't need to, but there's no reason to sidegrade you know

fleet canopy
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I don't really wanna paint the GPU, the mobo is okay since a Taichi seems good and I don't mind a small amount of black cause the Lian Li 011-d is gonna have some black either way

torn ferry
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What makes it a sidegrade?

vapid crypt
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They're both 6 core 12 thread processors

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And there's no difference in IPC

fleet canopy
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10600K is 6, 8700K is 8

vapid crypt
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I'm pretty sure the 10600K achieves similar clocks too

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No no the 9700K is the 8 core

fleet canopy
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I thought 8700K had 8?

torn ferry
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8700k is 6.

fleet canopy
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Goddamn I've been bamboozled

vapid crypt
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What? phaWesker

torn ferry
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I just want new parts. I don't really want to dismantle my old computer completely just to get the CPU. I want to keep the current PC as backup in case something goes wrong when I try to build.

fleet canopy
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You're just gonna have the PC still there anyways

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You're getting a full build, aside from CPU and GPU

restive garnet
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I just think there is no point forking out for a new mobo AND cpu for what is a very minor step up in performance

vapid crypt
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Now technically if you weren't adamant about having some kind of white motherboard, the process would be simple

fleet canopy
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Yeah

vapid crypt
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You wouldn't need to remove the cpu from the socket

fleet canopy
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I'm just waiting to get a 4700X

vapid crypt
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Just replace the thermal paste and cooler

fleet canopy
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And RAM

vapid crypt
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All it would take is moving the motherboard to a new case

fleet canopy
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Unless RAM is good

torn ferry
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2 solid green 8 GB 2666 sticks.

restive garnet
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Honestly, very little can go wrong with building a comp if you arent an idiot

vapid crypt
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Wow Ibuypower shafting their customers

fleet canopy
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My grandmother could build a PC in under 10 minutes! /s

torn ferry
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I just want to buy new parts, I don't really want to reuse any parts except for the GPU.

restive garnet
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20 years ago, electro static discharge was a huge concern

vapid crypt
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Yeah that's mostly gone now

restive garnet
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Now its basically a ghost story

vapid crypt
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There's probably like a once a blue moon kind of freak accident where something like that could maybe happen

restive garnet
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Not that im saying its good practice, but ive put together a few comps while wearing socks on carpet

fleet canopy
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lmao

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Did the whole PC build on a carpet

summer trout
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now you gotta do the running man on a carpet while wearing socks to even get a chance of that happening PepeLaugh

fleet canopy
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lol

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Nothing ever went wrong

restive garnet
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Actually i did build a computer on my bed once

fleet canopy
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Legit had parts on the carpet

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👀

torn ferry
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Is it easy to clean a graphics card?

restive garnet
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On a nice staticy mink blanket

vapid crypt
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Its humid AF where I live so it probably wouldn't matter phaWesker

summer trout
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yes if you take it slow

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just a lotta screws

restive garnet
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Graphics csrds arent hard

torn ferry
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Do you have to dismantle the card to clean it?

fleet canopy
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No

summer trout
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if you wanna clean it thoroughly yea

vapid crypt
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For an absolute deep clean sure

torn ferry
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Like, unscrew the shroud and fans and individually clean each parts?

fleet canopy
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Unless you're gonna replace thermals at the core

restive garnet
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You can just blast compressed air through the heat sink