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rapid plume May 22, 2020, 8:58 AM

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Looks amazing

dense wasp May 22, 2020, 8:58 AM

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But with 4 computers I’d say I’ve done fairly well

proper wren May 22, 2020, 8:58 AM

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Plan to use sound dampening foam on your walls?

dense wasp May 22, 2020, 8:59 AM

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I only use headphones, so don’t really need it

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And since I’m in a closet, I’ve got it dampened

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😄

rapid plume May 22, 2020, 8:59 AM

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That’s a closet?

dense wasp May 22, 2020, 8:59 AM

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📎 image0.jpg

rapid plume May 22, 2020, 8:59 AM

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That’s bigger then my room XD

dense wasp May 22, 2020, 9:00 AM

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It’s 8m2 .. 😅

proper wren May 22, 2020, 9:00 AM

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damn dude

rapid plume May 22, 2020, 9:00 AM

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Also that explains thermals more

dense wasp May 22, 2020, 9:00 AM

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I’ve just managed to make a lot of the space

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For sure

proper wren May 22, 2020, 9:01 AM

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That also explains ludvig wardrobe setup too

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This is basically what I saw in one of Relic Entertainment's DEV setups

rapid plume May 22, 2020, 9:02 AM

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Oof Lol

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But yea thermals in a small room don’t mix well... so you may be stuck at around that, tho at most it just means toasty legs

dense wasp May 22, 2020, 9:03 AM

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I mean I'm fairly good off now

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60c during load on a 3950x isn't THAT bad

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but it would be lower in a bigger room for sure

rapid plume May 22, 2020, 9:04 AM

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That’s what I mean, that’s as good as it gets for the situation

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Makes me wish I knew before lol

dense wasp May 22, 2020, 9:04 AM

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😄

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I assumed everyone knew I was in a closet 😛

proper wren May 22, 2020, 9:04 AM

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Part of me still wants you to go Noctua DH-15, but that room size. Still wants to go aio

rapid plume May 22, 2020, 9:05 AM

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I mean the room size air and water coolers will do the same, so why not keep what you have now

dense wasp May 22, 2020, 9:06 AM

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Poddy, I mean I could just try to change, for the sake of it, I got both of them for free etc.
but since this works, the only thing I'm annoyed by is the noise.

but I'll try switching the radiator fans before doing anything else

proper wren May 22, 2020, 9:07 AM

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switch to the noctua fans if the fans are driving you bonkers

rapid plume May 22, 2020, 9:08 AM

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Yea, fans are the only thing that should be making noise, and even then they should be relatively quiet anyways

proper wren May 22, 2020, 9:08 AM

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Expensive prism fans but they can be put into another pc

rapid plume May 22, 2020, 9:09 AM

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Yep...

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I mean so are the ones I recommended come to figure out, but the difference is specs

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Prism seems to be 30-35dbs or so, maybe more

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I also really need to try to sleep... sun is already up ffs

proper wren May 22, 2020, 9:12 AM

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https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3571-arctic-liquid-freezer-ii-cooler-review-benchmark is an arctic freezer 2, but it does show the nh-d15 results as well

dense wasp May 22, 2020, 9:12 AM

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I'd say the prism-fans are not the one makes the most noise

proper wren May 22, 2020, 9:12 AM

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the pump?

dense wasp May 22, 2020, 9:12 AM

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fans on the radiator

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they are cheaper fans for sure

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3x120mm

rapid plume May 22, 2020, 9:12 AM

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Ah

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120 are bad sizes for noise

proper wren May 22, 2020, 9:12 AM

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well you have to also remember is 120mm

dense wasp May 22, 2020, 9:12 AM

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and they are also the ones directly under the open "roof" of the chassi

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so I'll just change them for the noctua ones that I sent the youtube link about

rapid plume May 22, 2020, 9:13 AM

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Yea

dense wasp May 22, 2020, 9:13 AM

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Noctua's NF-A12x25

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they sent me like.. 10 of them

proper wren May 22, 2020, 9:13 AM

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Linus' favorite fans

rapid plume May 22, 2020, 9:13 AM

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Why does no one send me free PC parts?!

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Reee

dense wasp May 22, 2020, 9:13 AM

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haha

proper wren May 22, 2020, 9:14 AM

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I get sent pc parts

dense wasp May 22, 2020, 9:14 AM

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I've gotten way to much free stuff 😛

proper wren May 22, 2020, 9:14 AM

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but they go to the shop lol

rapid plume May 22, 2020, 9:14 AM

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Same lmao

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I touch a lot of not free parts

dense wasp May 22, 2020, 9:14 AM

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haha

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I built the entire team new PCs using free stuff I got

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🤷‍♂️

rapid plume May 22, 2020, 9:14 AM

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Good lord

proper wren May 22, 2020, 9:15 AM

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seems normal

dense wasp May 22, 2020, 9:15 AM

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well, they didn't just get sent to me without me reaching out btw

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#hustlelife

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I did spend time on it, so I guess that would count

rapid plume May 22, 2020, 9:15 AM

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You are a successful dev on a good team so yea lol

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They won’t say no

dense wasp May 22, 2020, 9:15 AM

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I did put a 3600x & 1080 ti in the lil Ghost s01 btw

proper wren May 22, 2020, 9:15 AM

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Ludvig do you have a server at home

rapid plume May 22, 2020, 9:16 AM

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Ghost be bumping... how’s thermals tho?

dense wasp May 22, 2020, 9:16 AM

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not perfect still,
but I'm using Noctua S...12?
ghost edition

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hasn't been released yet I think

rapid plume May 22, 2020, 9:17 AM

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Ffs

dense wasp May 22, 2020, 9:17 AM

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but 3600X is still above the recommended

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they recommend it up to 3600

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cpu is around 45c idle,
maybe 45-50

rapid plume May 22, 2020, 9:18 AM

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I’m sure it will be fine if you underclock a tad, it’s not a work pc anymore so it can chill with whatever

proper wren May 22, 2020, 9:18 AM

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pretty hot for thermals

rapid plume May 22, 2020, 9:18 AM

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It’s a mini

proper wren May 22, 2020, 9:18 AM

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yep

dense wasp May 22, 2020, 9:18 AM

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yeah, but in the smallest case, in my closet ;D

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3950x was way hotter 😄

rapid plume May 22, 2020, 9:19 AM

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When Ludvig makes even PCs so hot and bothered they come out of the closet

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Weren’t you at around 90 with the 1950x? Lol

dense wasp May 22, 2020, 9:20 AM

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ya

rapid plume May 22, 2020, 9:20 AM

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I shed a tear for that time

proper wren May 22, 2020, 9:20 AM

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Hears 1950x

dense wasp May 22, 2020, 9:21 AM

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I don't have a server at home Poddy

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we have ours in the office

rapid plume May 22, 2020, 9:21 AM

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Not even a NAS for home tho?

dense wasp May 22, 2020, 9:21 AM

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I do have a Synology NAS

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🙂

proper wren May 22, 2020, 9:21 AM

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storage size?

rapid plume May 22, 2020, 9:21 AM

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Ah good

dense wasp May 22, 2020, 9:22 AM

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8TB or something

proper wren May 22, 2020, 9:22 AM

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hmmm

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what year

rapid plume May 22, 2020, 9:22 AM

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You hunting down HDDs Poddy? XD

proper wren May 22, 2020, 9:23 AM

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no

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We have a chart in the office on rma rates

dense wasp May 22, 2020, 9:24 AM

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Synology DiskStation DS214play

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with 2x
WD Red 4TB / 64MB Cache / 5400 RPM

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I've had them since.. 2014

proper wren May 22, 2020, 9:24 AM

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He's definitely fine lol

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oh

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should be fine for now still

dense wasp May 22, 2020, 9:25 AM

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yeah it's alright

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I've been thinking about building a 3990x server thou, for the funs

rapid plume May 22, 2020, 9:25 AM

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You have the parts, try it!

proper wren May 22, 2020, 9:25 AM

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@_@ Remote server builds

dense wasp May 22, 2020, 9:25 AM

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I don't, I'd have to hustle for it:D

rapid plume May 22, 2020, 9:26 AM

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Oh lmao

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Then it’s more fun

dense wasp May 22, 2020, 9:26 AM

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but then I'd want to do a 3990x vm machine,
so like, 4x GPU, 256gb RAM

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etc

proper wren May 22, 2020, 9:26 AM

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titans?

rapid plume May 22, 2020, 9:26 AM

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Not sure if he can hustle that well...

proper wren May 22, 2020, 9:27 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkfbg-sHwDo Heheheh

dense wasp May 22, 2020, 9:27 AM

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would probably be 2080tis

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haha, yeah I've seen that

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that chassi thou

rapid plume May 22, 2020, 9:27 AM

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Yea I’ve seen that, I want the case

dense wasp May 22, 2020, 9:27 AM

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😫

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hahah

proper wren May 22, 2020, 9:27 AM

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the case is a yeah no

rapid plume May 22, 2020, 9:27 AM

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Lmao

dense wasp May 22, 2020, 9:27 AM

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it

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s horrid!

rapid plume May 22, 2020, 9:28 AM

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You mean you don’t want 30 pounds of cast aluminum? XD

dense wasp May 22, 2020, 9:28 AM

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a good heatabsorbant!

proper wren May 22, 2020, 9:28 AM

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I rather CNC a case from scratch than to build from that thing

dense wasp May 22, 2020, 9:28 AM

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but having a build like that and running VM's for myself.. 😄

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playing GTFO with myself even more

rapid plume May 22, 2020, 9:29 AM

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“4 players?” No... Four computers... one Lud

proper wren May 22, 2020, 9:29 AM

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You see there is a creature called a "human" to play with

brisk badger May 22, 2020, 9:30 AM

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now, since gtfo is supported by geforce now you could meanwhile have 4 or 3 vm's running it by this service(s)

proper wren May 22, 2020, 9:31 AM

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Nah

rapid plume May 22, 2020, 9:31 AM

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Anyways, it was a pleasure as always to chat but I need to attempt sleep XD I’ll see y’all later!

proper wren May 22, 2020, 9:32 AM

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Cheers

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Hide me from these virtual meetings with intel reps

dense wasp May 22, 2020, 9:33 AM

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have a good one Darkness

proper wren May 22, 2020, 9:33 AM

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but then again they give out giftcards to those that come to the meetings

dense wasp May 22, 2020, 9:42 AM

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haha

proper wren May 22, 2020, 9:47 AM

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Also to those that are buying laptops and live in Canada. There are delays on laptop shipments at the moment due to the whole world situation going on even with the reopening in most facilities.

lost kiln May 22, 2020, 11:03 AM

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So question. Anyone have a monitor recommendations? My brain failed to register that that my side monitor used VGA and the 2080 super doesn’t have that bcaHeadPatts2Derp8

brisk badger May 22, 2020, 11:04 AM

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what about a converter?

abstract kite May 22, 2020, 11:14 AM

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get that quadro card

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GWcorbinTopKek

lost kiln May 22, 2020, 11:17 AM

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Oh that’s true Wooza. I mainly considered a new monitor cuz this one is something like 1378 x idrk anymore lol (At work rn so I can’t tell ya atm)

abstract kite May 22, 2020, 11:17 AM

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my tip is dont do the same mistake as me... go for 1440p144hz

lost kiln May 22, 2020, 11:17 AM

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And nien Quadro ain’t for me lol

abstract kite May 22, 2020, 11:17 AM

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i was saying quadro for ludvig xD

lost kiln May 22, 2020, 11:18 AM

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I mean my main monitor is a 1080p toshiba TV and oh lol

abstract kite May 22, 2020, 11:20 AM

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if you have le budget go for a decent 1440p144hz

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i went for 1080p240hz and regreted it cause i was banned from playing on the esport tournaments for the game

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😅

lost kiln May 22, 2020, 11:21 AM

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Wait what, why?

abstract kite May 22, 2020, 11:22 AM

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I started off from my country home server right.. community server.. and i got found by few pro teams.. and people got jelly cause i got picked while they were waiting longer, so i got attacked and i then responded back "if you want to get in dont message me rather message the organisation"

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Then they lied about me leaking personal private info about the team and tournament, that is bannable

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so they set me up my own country people...

lost kiln May 22, 2020, 11:24 AM

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Cut throat gaming jeez

abstract kite May 22, 2020, 11:24 AM

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indeed

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but other than that i still made few buck from playing while i could xd

lost kiln May 22, 2020, 11:24 AM

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Nice

abstract kite May 22, 2020, 11:24 AM

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in one month we managed to score one first place and one second which gave us total of 700€ prize pool

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other than that i pretty much hate saying im from that country cause it did nothing good for me except ruin my life chances xD

lost kiln May 22, 2020, 11:27 AM

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That’s cool! (The making money part not the ruined chance) My friends tried to make my join them to try and go pro with overwatch when it came out. Lost them as friends because I’m not delusional enough to try and bet everything to go pro. We weren’t that good tbh and I’m not competitive so it prob wouldn’t have worked out

abstract kite May 22, 2020, 11:29 AM

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mmmm GWvertiPeepoSadMan

lost kiln May 22, 2020, 11:31 AM

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Eh, it’s a say it’s just life throwing punches. Gotta roll with em and keep moving forward ya know

abstract kite May 22, 2020, 11:31 AM

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welp true

proper wren May 22, 2020, 12:03 PM

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@lost kiln What size of the monitor? Will it be 1080p/1440p/4K? Do you care about color ratio, contrast, panels?

lost kiln May 22, 2020, 12:30 PM

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Srry for the delay, if possible I’d like 32 but I don’t mind smaller cuz my current side monitor is like 17. It’d prob be best at 1080p seeing as it’s just my side monitor for reading chat or just watching YouTube when I play games. And none of that really matters to me tbh

proper wren May 22, 2020, 12:33 PM

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go for an asus or lg then

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benq is balanced on color

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https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/lg-31-5-fhd-75hz-5ms-gtg-ips-led-gaming-monitor-32ml600m-w-white/13618805?cmp=knc-s-71700000055264709&gclid=CjwKCAjw8J32BRBCEiwApQEKgRTfWpOCwSnkwTWjkVzi6D-tG3lLYTX2WL2N_L-hwPrkwldlsJYZ0hoCzsQQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds decent, not 1ms but it does the job for 2nd monitor

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 1:14 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=vbHyF50m-rs&feature=emb_logo

jade ermine May 22, 2020, 3:53 PM

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https://youtu.be/2MjpWwP9Sno?t=298 corsair blocks OMEGAROLL

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 3:54 PM

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lol corsair

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Is he forcing it like that?

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Yeah

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That's funny

jade ermine May 22, 2020, 3:56 PM

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📎 IMG_20200522_185600.jpg

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im 100% sure that if i had corsair block it would leak

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because these qdc fittings are pressing that terminal down quite a bit

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 3:56 PM

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Oof

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 4:34 PM

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https://twitter.com/drdisrespect/status/1262769763702280198

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"Okay guys, let's add some really slow talking of a guy explaining the specs, alright?"

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It's a cool build

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But showing it was cringe

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Like I don't know why they had to just do that voice lmao

jade ermine May 22, 2020, 4:42 PM

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dont use twitter so im saved from that

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Steve3

merry bay May 22, 2020, 4:43 PM

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That's his whole theme since wayyyy back before the internet was even ready for him. It's a character, not his actual personality

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 4:43 PM

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?

merry bay May 22, 2020, 4:44 PM

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it's drdisrespect, a streamer

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 4:45 PM

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Well, yeah

merry bay May 22, 2020, 4:45 PM

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he was doing similar things from 2010 or even earlier

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 4:45 PM

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So pretty much he has done that before with that kind of voice?

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The shocker also is that it apparently costed him 315,000$

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As well as the PC almost broke in delivery too

merry bay May 22, 2020, 4:49 PM

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ESPN describes him as "a WWE character in the competitive gaming world", and has himself said "I created a character who plays multiplayer video games, and he's considered the most dominating gaming specimen.
I guess this is a glimpse of how ridiculous some of the things he goes into can get. High production, over the top aimed at entertainment. Some mockery mixed in there too.

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 4:50 PM

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Ah

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I see

merry bay May 22, 2020, 4:50 PM

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I would be really surprised if he invested in that PC from his own pocket

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where did you hear about that number?

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 4:50 PM

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It's right on the video he uploaded

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7c_RqV5O6E

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"He writes, "the CPU alone, AMD Ryzen Threadripper 39990x, would set you back a staggering $3,500, which shows you the type of ballpark the Two-Time is playing in."

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We got our answer

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An article says he paid for it all

merry bay May 22, 2020, 4:54 PM

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yeah it's just his persona talking :D
he describes his glasses as Google prototypes to enhance his abilities along with a bunch of buzzwords\

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 4:54 PM

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Some guy had it into a PCPP list

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nbfKL2

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Mentioned to be 315K

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But like

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No custom cooler is in it

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Uhh

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RAM isn't priced

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After all, it's just a guy who had to like, put it together with the specs said from the video as well as figuring out some stuff

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But 256GB of RAM

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Sounds like

merry bay May 22, 2020, 4:55 PM

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besides, at this point he's a brand. Companies are lining up to sponsor him, hard to say how much of the PC was offered or was it just the service and maintenance.

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32GB in each slot sounds like a waste. Not only it won't be the best performance, but it's impossible for him to utilize a quarter of it in his day to day

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 4:58 PM

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Yeah

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It's not like he has it constantly running stuff all the time

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But like, if you made like 500K-1M a year

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And he's been on that stuff for quite a few years

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So if you can get it, why not just do it GWjianGodLUL

merry bay May 22, 2020, 5:00 PM

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So you wouldn't get yelled at by your manager for instance LUL

brisk badger May 22, 2020, 5:01 PM

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possible to have install ramdisk and symlink games or other application to it, so it's directly running from within the ram. not sure how useful this would be, especially with the upcomming pcie gen4

merry bay May 22, 2020, 5:02 PM

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In theory it should work amazingly, but the price is hard to justify

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I wonder if things would start choking with 4 channels and accessing stuff spread out over 8 modules

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Because it defintely does with dual channel and 4 modules

brisk badger May 22, 2020, 5:05 PM

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for workspaces, definitely it is overkill. it also add more cpu 'overhead' to it at least from what I knowing with intels integrated memory controller. The more ram banks the cpu can utilize the more difficult it can become with overclocking the CPU

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this could mean in general less higher clockspeed or just more cpu volt and it's sad if the ram itself is 80% empty

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 5:08 PM

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Could have just stuck to 64GB tbh

jade ermine May 22, 2020, 5:10 PM

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i find it kinda funny that digitalstorm went kinda all out but forget to block those GPU's

abstract kite May 23, 2020, 2:05 AM

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So what are y'all's thoughts on the new 10th gen Intel processors?

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 2:10 AM

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They could have been good if it was a better manufacture

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But overall, I think it seems fairly okay

abstract kite May 23, 2020, 2:10 AM

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I thought it was pretty neat how Intel's engineers decided to increase the thickness of the IHS to counter thermal issues.

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 2:11 AM

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Oh? That's actually not bad

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But they still have to drop 14nm at one point

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I think Linus mentioned they'll drop it in the 11th or 12th gen

loud hearth May 23, 2020, 2:41 AM

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anyone here good with routers n shit? Ive got comcast and we're hooked up with coaxial cables (circle with a gold pin in the middle) and the router we just got only has ethernet despite it being a 200$ one, what adapter do i need>

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I cant get any straight answers on google

abstract kite May 23, 2020, 3:38 AM

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@fleet canopy It was pretty cool how they did it. They thinned the actual die, and thickened the IHS for better heat dissipation.

Not poking fun at them, but it kind of makes you with they had thought of that long before comet lake.

10th gen still takes a bit to push though. I want to say the 10900K needs somewhere around 300w OC as high as it can.

Sorry for the very late response by the way, I was pulled away from the PC for a bit with irl stuff.

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In the long run, I'm actually very excited to see what Intel does in the future. We already know they know how to strain the crap out of an architecture, thus getting those super high clock speeds. On a smaller die, I can only imagine what they might be able to achieve.

Supposedly, Ryzen 4000 isn't going to be a slouch either, but time will tell how much better it will be over the current generation, and how it stacks up to Intels latest offerings.

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We might be seeing a very tight race here soon, and I'm excited for it.

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Intel could potentially win me back for my next system in the coming years, or AMD could hold me as the reigning productivity champion.

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 3:43 AM

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They'll be able to strike the 6GHz achievement if they can at least go 10-7nm

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And At least hoping less power needed just to run an intel chip

abstract kite May 23, 2020, 3:45 AM

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That's true. Being more efficient at 12-7nm could be the push that Intel needed from AMD to become a serious competitor in the workstation market. They're still reigning king in gaming by a long shot, but some of the disadvantages it has towards rendering, encoding, etc. still makes Intel's offerings feel a little lackluster for my specific use cases.

If someone wants to build a gaming rig solely for gaming, I'm actually highly thinking about recommending the 10600K. That thing is a monster.

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 3:50 AM

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Mhm

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But what about the other ones?

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Like 10700K, etc

abstract kite May 23, 2020, 3:52 AM

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The 10700K for sure too, but I was mainly comparing the common "budget" recommendation of the 3600 to the 10600K.

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If you're needing that many cores to do computational work with, you might as well get a 3700X/3800X in my opinion and take a hit on the gaming.

Streaming it's a 50/50 imo, 10700K or the AMD equivalent; take your pick cause both will be fine.

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 3:53 AM

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Taking a hit kek

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I don't think the gaming performance would ever matter if you're some kind of workstation guy

abstract kite May 23, 2020, 3:55 AM

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Exactly. The 3700X is cheaper than the 10700K tmk, and outperforms it in a majority of workloads due to efficiency. Where it falls short is in frequency based applications, but that's where, again, you have to make the decision what you deem most important.

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I should make a line chart asking questions on what you're going to do with your PC and have a specific processor as an ending result of one or more paths 🤣

vapid crypt May 23, 2020, 4:09 AM

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There's gonna be refreshes for the Ryzen 7s coming out in July apparently. A 3750X and 3850X

abstract kite May 23, 2020, 4:10 AM

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I-I'm just- sigh

What is the point of those when there's 4000 coming? Just higher binned versions?

vapid crypt May 23, 2020, 4:10 AM

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Well we don't know until next month

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 4:11 AM

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Might offer more stuff, perhaps

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But tbh yeah

abstract kite May 23, 2020, 4:11 AM

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Doesn't seem like a good idea from AMD unless those are what's replacing Zen 2 imo.

Revamps are good, but please don't saturate the market with unnecessary chips. 🙏

vapid crypt May 23, 2020, 4:12 AM

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But I was thinking maybe they will address the CCX latency issue, maybe add more cache. Perhaps using a more refined 7nm process, could also just be better binned silicon... which would be lame.

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In any case if they're legitimately better by a decent margin while being in the same price points the 3700 and 3800X are currently, that could be interesting. I saw a comment comparing the refresh to Intel's Devil's Canyon

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Which was the final Haswell refresh If I'm not mistaken

abstract kite May 23, 2020, 4:27 AM

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The problem with tech is: What you have now and whats bleeding edge will be yesteryears fad before you know it. 😩

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That's also what I love about it though

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lol

proper wren May 23, 2020, 4:30 AM

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uwu download ram

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 4:31 AM

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www.downloadmoreram.com

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Ezpz

vapid crypt May 23, 2020, 4:38 AM

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That won't change I suppose, Hopefully these refreshes are worthwhile to consider getting. Maybe I'll upgrade to that instead of getting Zen 3, might even do so earlier than I expected. Was gonna wait another year for dirt cheap pricing on a 3700X or something, now it could be a 3750X.

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 4:39 AM

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Maybe

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But I’m still gonna go with my 7700K cause I can’t really get anything

vapid crypt May 23, 2020, 4:41 AM

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Makes me wonder though: what if the initial Zen 3 releases this year are the Ryzen 9s; and these refreshes are for those looking for a cheaper part. Could make sense if its a limited release. And then Q1 next year is when they release the rest of the stack phaSheva

abstract kite May 23, 2020, 4:41 AM

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That makes a lot of sense actually.

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I've thought up going with a 4900X next year (cos cheaper) as the 3700X was originally a placeholder for a 3950X until I realized how unrealistic that goal was.

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kek

vapid crypt May 23, 2020, 4:42 AM

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Oh why is a 3950X unrealistic?

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 4:43 AM

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3950X is cool, but 3900X is a much better choice GWczoLoliShrug

abstract kite May 23, 2020, 4:43 AM

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It's unrealistic budget wise.

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 4:43 AM

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Really not that worth imo if 4000 is to be near

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Yeah^

abstract kite May 23, 2020, 4:43 AM

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Some day though, some day.

vapid crypt May 23, 2020, 4:43 AM

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For the money maybe, though it is superior in every way including energy efficiency

abstract kite May 23, 2020, 4:43 AM

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GodSaid

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 4:44 AM

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Wonder what the 4950X is gonna be like

vapid crypt May 23, 2020, 4:44 AM

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Hmm, not sure if they're gonna be increasing core counts again. I guess its possible though

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 4:45 AM

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They might

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For the threadrippers st least

vapid crypt May 23, 2020, 4:45 AM

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Since they're putting Zen 2 8 cores into the new consoles, I suppose it would make sense to make that the new Ryzen 5 part

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Then again the so called 4700G is gonna be an 8 core, so probably not this gen

red sinew May 23, 2020, 5:33 AM

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god damnit I'm just now realising I should have sprung for a 3600x instead of a 3700x Ree

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I was baited by the numbers bros sadcat

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or more accurately should have gone for a 2070 over a 2060 instead of spending extra dosh on the 3700

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 5:37 AM

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Kek

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You’ll get your better GPU eventually

red sinew May 23, 2020, 5:38 AM

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it's gonna be a good 4 or so years till I decide to upgrade again

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unless I happen to finish uni and get a well paying job in which case I might just upgrade a touch sooner

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 5:39 AM

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Yeah

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But the longer it takes, the more benefiting it might be

red sinew May 23, 2020, 5:39 AM

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yeaa

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I just hope I can get to the bottom of my current performance issues

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they're a bit funky tbh

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all kinds of weird inconsistencies with how well my rig should be performing

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not sure if its my temps, my ram or some software heckery seeing as I didn't do a fresh install when I put my parts in

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 5:43 AM

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Temps are ezpz to figure out. RAM might be simple too

red sinew May 23, 2020, 5:45 AM

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if only I had my second monitor to test with

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sadcat

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i think the cpu is bottlenecking the gpu because when I play red dead my gpu usage sits at max but cpu sits at 20%

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 5:58 AM

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Oof

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Wait isn’t that how it’s supposed to be? But seems the CPU probably has not a lot to work with, or RAM isn’t exactly standard, being 3200MHz DDR4

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CAS16

red sinew May 23, 2020, 6:21 AM

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well yeah I don't think i have 3000 mhz ram

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only 2400mhz c14 ram @fleet canopy Would that impact my performance?

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also I'm not sure if that's how it's supposed to be but I know I can just barely hit 60 in that game regardless of what I change my settings too

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idk if that's just the games optimisation or something wrong with my setup tbh

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i'm gonna try ram oc soon but maybe I should just upgrade my wam zoomEyes

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 6:36 AM

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Not sure what 2400MHz CAS14 performance is like

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Upgrading it to 3600MHz CAS15 seems good, not too much money I guess

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If game GTFO, settings barely do anything

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The RAM seems like the only necessary upgrade imo.

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GPU/CPU is perfectly fine, but I think RAM is kind of like, not really pushing much performance but I’m not too sure

red sinew May 23, 2020, 6:48 AM

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hmm

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will have to investigate

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 6:49 AM

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There is a RAM calculator online

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You calculate with the speed and CAS latency

red sinew May 23, 2020, 6:50 AM

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yeah I just haven't actually got around to doing it

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I have to go and google my ram specs and test it but I don't have the time lately sadcat

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 6:51 AM

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Oof

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I could use a RAM upgrade as well

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2400Mhz CAS16 Kek

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Will try for 3200-360MHz CAS14-15

red sinew May 23, 2020, 6:52 AM

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the only thing is my gpu does run up high at like

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85 ish

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temp that is

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 6:52 AM

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Oof

red sinew May 23, 2020, 6:52 AM

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I've heard that isn't bad but I'm not sure

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that's at 100% usage so hmm

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 6:52 AM

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Think the bad is nearly 100C

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So you could be fine

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Just bad airflow perhaps?

red sinew May 23, 2020, 6:54 AM

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possibly

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i don't recall my last card every being too bad

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it was a 970

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 6:54 AM

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Mine does 40-50 in no load, doesn’t go past 60~ in load of games

red sinew May 23, 2020, 6:54 AM

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hmm....

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it's a fairly cheap case to be fair

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 6:54 AM

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Maybe the case isn’t the best for airflow?

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Or something isn’t working perhaps

red sinew May 23, 2020, 6:55 AM

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I have no idea tbh

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I don't even know for sure that it's underperforming

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just that red dead is weird in particular

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will try overclocking the gpu and a few other things later to see what i can do about that

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 6:56 AM

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Only Red Dead?

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Mm, with a weird temp? I wouldn’t try

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Hopefully you’ll manage something, cause the only thing I’m managing is how the hell I’m gonna sleep with a bed that’s as hot as the sun

red sinew May 23, 2020, 7:11 AM

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f

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sleep well

lilac geyser May 23, 2020, 7:30 AM

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@loud hearth post what router you have, and what devices you are trying to connect. i presume you want wireless (wifi) for laptops and phones?

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ill check back when its morning for me

loud hearth May 23, 2020, 7:39 AM

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@lilac geyser i had posted similar question a forum, they told me to connect the new router i got to my current modem with ethernet, i cant try it until tomorrow tho

lilac geyser May 23, 2020, 7:47 AM

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sounds about right

loud hearth May 23, 2020, 7:48 AM

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yeah my issue was kinda weird, very little that I could find online

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not sure why my isp used coax

viscid prism May 23, 2020, 1:01 PM

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I have an question...
I have the RTX 2070
and AMD Rhyzen 7 2700
how many fps should i have on high settings?

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the thing is when im gona set the settings from high to low the fps is not gonna go higher its still the same... is it windwos?

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or any programm that just like limit my fps

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sometimes i have a like a framedrop just its freezing for 1-3 seconds like every 10 or 20 minutes...

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 2:00 PM

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GTFO isn’t the most optimized game

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So it’s kind of a hit or miss?

fleet junco May 23, 2020, 2:40 PM

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Hah

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That's what you get from using AMD

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I'm on an i7 6700 and a GTX 1060 and I don't have any fps issues at all

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 2:40 PM

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Mm not true

fleet junco May 23, 2020, 2:41 PM

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TRUE

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 2:41 PM

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Tinted has 2600 and 570

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It runs with no problems too

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He doesn't play it I guess, but he said it didn't have any problems

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Dunno how the fuck that works

vapid crypt May 23, 2020, 2:41 PM

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I have no issues personally

fleet junco May 23, 2020, 2:41 PM

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He probably ran out of arctic ice to keep that shit cool lmaoo

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 2:42 PM

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I believe I did like 60FPS?

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lol sorry

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But

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Shintel 10900K doing 300W 👁️👁️

vapid crypt May 23, 2020, 2:42 PM

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I don't know what's going on with his thing, but he was telling me when enemies spawn the framerate will go down to 60-70 but he's telling me it feels like 30 - 40

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 2:42 PM

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AyyMD doing the same perf with lower heat/watt usage

vapid crypt May 23, 2020, 2:42 PM

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I don't know what he means with that phaWesker

jade ermine May 23, 2020, 2:42 PM

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facepalm

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 2:42 PM

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Maybe it's the FPS going 60 ish but feeling like 30-40, hm

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Maybe it could be instead of the FPS, it's what in the game that causes that

vapid crypt May 23, 2020, 2:43 PM

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I told him since he's used to 100+ fps, the difference would feel like that

fleet junco May 23, 2020, 2:43 PM

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I had a similar issue on Witcher 3 occasionally. It only happened once or twice, and it was also on my old i5. The game would feel rather 'choppy' while the FPS counter would be locked at 60.

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 2:43 PM

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I assume it's more optimized though

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Ah

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Yeah

vapid crypt May 23, 2020, 2:43 PM

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And yeah I guess there's other factors

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Like frame times

jade ermine May 23, 2020, 2:44 PM

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Discussing about how smooth games are etc. is kinda dumb because smooth for one can be laggy for another. Too subjective.

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 2:44 PM

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Kind of about the uhh

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1% and 0.1% FPS I think?

fleet junco May 23, 2020, 2:44 PM

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One game I could never optimize was Borderlands 2.

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Oh, and also Company of Heroes 2

vapid crypt May 23, 2020, 2:44 PM

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Oh yeah Borderlands 2 was weird for me

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 2:44 PM

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It's 1% - 0.1% lows

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He could be having that

vapid crypt May 23, 2020, 2:45 PM

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Whenever I would open the inventory the framerate would unexpectedly drop by like 25 - 30 frames

fleet junco May 23, 2020, 2:45 PM

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Oh yeah that too

vapid crypt May 23, 2020, 2:47 PM

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Hmm

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New info on the Zen 2 refreshes https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-9-3900xt-ryzen-7-3800xt-ryzen-5-3600xt-matisse-refresh-desktop-cpus-confirmed/

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 2:48 PM

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So nothing really special?

vapid crypt May 23, 2020, 2:48 PM

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I guess not

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Looks like they're just trying to close the gap with comet lake or something

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 2:48 PM

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Maybe

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Offer better performance at not much of a different or lower price

vapid crypt May 23, 2020, 2:50 PM

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It isn't uncommon for refreshes on an architecture... I mean look at Intel they're 5 years and counting phaSip

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 2:50 PM

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Refreshes on Intel, hm..

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What kind of refreshes?

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Can't put my mind on any

vapid crypt May 23, 2020, 2:51 PM

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Well its a slight joke, but they've been using the same architecture pretty much since Skylake

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They've just been pushing clocks and adding cores every other generation

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 2:51 PM

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Yeah

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While also managing heat

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Not bad way of doing it, but also really wish they'd stop doing 14nm a while ago

vapid crypt May 23, 2020, 2:52 PM

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Kabylake is basically identical to Skylake just higher clocked

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So for this arch that's the direct refresh

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 2:55 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4th6YElNm5w

abstract kite May 23, 2020, 10:39 PM

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XT CPUs

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kinda weird to me but if i can get a cheap 3900x that'd be baller

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i read the article and it said it would have a 10% improvement in performance

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPY3_lQMqRw

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that would mean 3600s should beat i9s

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 10:43 PM

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Mm

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I wouldn't ever trust those kind of videos myself

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It just feels like they give you the most inaccurate info

proper wren May 23, 2020, 10:58 PM

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3900x dropped in price

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Ty intel

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 11:07 PM

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https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-3900X-24-Thread-Processor/dp/B07SXMZLP9

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417$ 3900X

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kek

merry bay May 23, 2020, 11:09 PM

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i payed more for a 9700K LULW (EU prices)

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 11:10 PM

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Hah

abstract kite May 23, 2020, 11:10 PM

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Damm, that's very good for a 12 core processor for that price.

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It's insane.

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It's £180 for a 3600. £280 for 3700x and £300 for 3800. Now for that 3900x, that's really good value.

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 11:12 PM

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Indeed

proper wren May 23, 2020, 11:15 PM

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No point having 9900k now tbh

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With the 3900x price range

abstract kite May 23, 2020, 11:15 PM

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Nope. The cores and performance and insane value attract me more.

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There yare going to close the gap with their next generation of CPU's so no point.

proper wren May 23, 2020, 11:16 PM

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Get an x470/x570 and call it a day

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Zen 3 uwu

merry bay May 23, 2020, 11:18 PM

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have to stay strong until Zen 3 and Nvidia 3000 series Sweat

digital vale May 23, 2020, 11:18 PM

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@abstract kite they still have the overheating problems with those cards?

abstract kite May 23, 2020, 11:18 PM

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Nope.

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Depends what brand you buy. You have to do your research thoe.

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I have a sapphire one. They are pretty good for temps.

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 11:19 PM

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I'd probably get a 9900K if I could have before

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Either way, better than a 7700K

digital vale May 23, 2020, 11:19 PM

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i heard nitro+ was good and one called red devil were pretty good

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 11:19 PM

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Sapphire Nitro+ is like

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The best

abstract kite May 23, 2020, 11:20 PM

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Yes, they are the other top 2 contenders

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Rx 5700 xt is perfect for 1440P gaming.

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 11:20 PM

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Indeed

digital vale May 23, 2020, 11:20 PM

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thats probably what ill end up getting then after i look at some benchmarks

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 11:21 PM

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If they lower the price a bit on the 2070S, like 450$ MSRP, that'd probably sell more and would become a better 1440p 144hz player

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Price to performance wise

abstract kite May 23, 2020, 11:21 PM

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They are better. Don't forget you can Overclock to get near identical performance to 2070S

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But you need good cooling.

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 11:21 PM

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Yeah

digital vale May 23, 2020, 11:22 PM

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yeah for sure id have to figure something out lol what i really want is a 2080ti but i cant justify the price at all fr

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 11:23 PM

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Mm nah lol

ornate ginkgo May 23, 2020, 11:23 PM

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Yeah....

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 11:23 PM

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2080 Ti is stupid now

digital vale May 23, 2020, 11:23 PM

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whys it bad now?

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 11:23 PM

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Getting a 2080 Super is way better

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Or wait for 3070/3080

ornate ginkgo May 23, 2020, 11:23 PM

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📎 unknown.png

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 11:23 PM

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Hell, even a 3060 might do great

ornate ginkgo May 23, 2020, 11:23 PM

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👀

digital vale May 23, 2020, 11:23 PM

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damn son 💪

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 11:24 PM

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smh lavars

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Why not a 3950X?

abstract kite May 23, 2020, 11:24 PM

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Yeah, too overpriced. It's rumourd that new RX series of GPU will have a cheaper and better alternative to the 2080TI

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Man he's flexing bro

ornate ginkgo May 23, 2020, 11:24 PM

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The 3950x would have been to much x3

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 11:24 PM

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lol

abstract kite May 23, 2020, 11:25 PM

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but gets a 2080TI

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 11:25 PM

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tbh I'm not that hyped for a new AMD GPU atm

abstract kite May 23, 2020, 11:25 PM

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My set up is shit but I'm happy.

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 11:25 PM

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If their drivers aren't crap, then I'll buy it

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Maybe

abstract kite May 23, 2020, 11:25 PM

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Drivers improved a lot.

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 11:26 PM

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Yeah

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But it took a good while

abstract kite May 23, 2020, 11:26 PM

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True.

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Hey Larvers, how much cached ram do you have?

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 11:27 PM

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I remember once, I was told the 2080 Ti had a 8GB VRAM version

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I didn't believe that lmao

ornate ginkgo May 23, 2020, 11:27 PM

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D:

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its 11Gb

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 11:28 PM

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Yeah ik

ornate ginkgo May 23, 2020, 11:28 PM

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and i have additional 32gb ram

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 11:28 PM

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I dunno why they said there was an 8GB version

ornate ginkgo May 23, 2020, 11:28 PM

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Maybe because of the 2080

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 11:28 PM

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Either they were p dumb and mistaked 2080, or saw some "2080 Ti" with 2080 Ti drivers on 2080 lmao

ornate ginkgo May 23, 2020, 11:29 PM

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x3

abstract kite May 23, 2020, 11:29 PM

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and i have additional 32gb ram
@ornate ginkgo

No, no. Cached ram. You should see it if you click on the ram page on task manager. I'm just wondering if you get a problem I have.

ornate ginkgo May 23, 2020, 11:29 PM

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Oh sorry, didn't saw your message, was a response to gay

abstract kite May 23, 2020, 11:30 PM

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It's all good man 👍

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You're an OG of this server ;)

ornate ginkgo May 23, 2020, 11:30 PM

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My system is not representable to others x3

abstract kite May 23, 2020, 11:31 PM

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That's the point, it's a Windows problem. That's why I'm asking. I'm curious if you would have the issue as well where your chaches ram builds and builds and never clears.

ornate ginkgo May 23, 2020, 11:31 PM

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I had 8gb before, and never had problems with GTFO

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 11:31 PM

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Maybe you don't restart PC

ornate ginkgo May 23, 2020, 11:32 PM

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^Not restarting shouldn'T make a lot difference

abstract kite May 23, 2020, 11:32 PM

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Nope, it's a Windows only problem. Restarting PC clears it but it will build up again.

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 11:33 PM

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For some reason when I turn off PC or something, sometimes it just doesn't turn off, even if I did it on Window's power off function, or with the button on PC

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But it'll do sometimes. Kind of irritating

abstract kite May 23, 2020, 11:34 PM

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My PC has a retard spasm I'd I click the restart option on Windows. Boots in for like 10 mins before it enters. And it boots up in 10 seconds.

fleet canopy May 23, 2020, 11:34 PM

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pixels9Wut

ornate ginkgo May 23, 2020, 11:35 PM

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Mhhh.

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Have you ever checked if your Ram ist fine?

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like in a second system

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or another ram?

abstract kite May 23, 2020, 11:37 PM

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Yes, my frame timings are a little fucked. And I get bad stuttering.

I did it very hard to believe it's ram. I tried, boots fine. It was like that on my old PC.

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My rams works fine and shit.

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GTFO is one of the few games that runs almost flawless.

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I'm probably going to be hooked on it for a long, long time because of that.

merry bay May 23, 2020, 11:42 PM

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For some games it can be an issue, others barely affected.
Set Priority -> High in Task Manager sometimes helps.

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In some cases manually using this tool helps as well

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https://www.wagnardsoft.com/content/intelligent-standby-list-cleaner-v1000-released

abstract kite May 23, 2020, 11:44 PM

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Already have that.

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Doesn't work.

merry bay May 23, 2020, 11:44 PM

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Clearing it too often can cause odd behavior sometimes or hinder performance, so better keep doing it manually when you notice something

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What about your storage? Is your pagefile and OS on the same drive? (spreading out loads might impact things positively)

abstract kite May 23, 2020, 11:50 PM

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Pagefile? Also, OS is not. But I strongly doubt that will make a difference. I've had a few games on the OS drive, didn't make much of a difference in the SSD. Any chance everything will work better if I installed the OS onto the NVME m.2 drive I have for all my games? Will that reduce stuttering? O noticed it fix a few issues installing games in that.

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 12:02 AM

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I got a Bad Pool Caller blue screen.

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 12:04 AM

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Once again

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That's a hardware/software problem

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Incompatibility mainly

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 12:04 AM

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What do I do to fix it?

lilac geyser May 24, 2020, 12:19 AM

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what'd you do to cause it?

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btw this is a problem best solved by googling for and trying some potential solutions

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as most people who try to help wont have any first hand experience with it

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 12:49 AM

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Browsing on Google.

lilac geyser May 24, 2020, 12:53 AM

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add some terms specific to your situation, like witcher 3, if that's what you think called it

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caused it

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my first thought, update your graphics driver

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 1:23 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJcKYUTaBtg

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I don't know

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Something weird

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Apparently the A100 can now fly and stuff

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 2:05 AM

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@lilac geyser do I update the driver through GeForce Experience?

lilac geyser May 24, 2020, 2:05 AM

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dont know i have amd

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 2:06 AM

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Yeah you do

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Or go to NVIDIA's website and use their drivers updater thing

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Both options are easy, GeForce Experience is a lot easier as it tells you that you have an update

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It's also unnecessary to keep updating the GPU drivers whenever a new one is out

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 2:08 AM

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Why?

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 2:08 AM

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It probably replaces the driver file

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Buuuut

lilac geyser May 24, 2020, 2:08 AM

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???

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 2:09 AM

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If you do, most likely it just keeps adding up and the old driver is still there iirc

lilac geyser May 24, 2020, 2:09 AM

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what...define adding up

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 2:10 AM

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Like say I have RTX 2070 Super version 439 something, and the most recent is 441 or 443 or whatever. I download that, and I still have version 439 in my files. I feel like I'm wrong

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But usually that's how it is if you're switching GPUs I believe

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If it's the same GPU, it should replace, but idk about that

lilac geyser May 24, 2020, 2:11 AM

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update your drivers

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 2:12 AM

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The driver I have installed was one from March. The most recent one is from April.

lilac geyser May 24, 2020, 2:13 AM

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and witcher 3 is an older game so maybe there are no new improvements, but maybe there are

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wow nvidia's CEO is the uncle of AMD's CEO

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 2:18 AM

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Why don't NVIDIA and AMD join forces to create only 1 GPU? XD

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What do AMD GPUs have to compete with NVIDIA GPUs?

lilac geyser May 24, 2020, 2:18 AM

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freaking semiconductor cartel

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idk they both work

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 2:19 AM

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What is the importance of a smaller nanometer number in processors?

lilac geyser May 24, 2020, 2:19 AM

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smaller transistors require less voltage to operate

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so less heat

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 2:20 AM

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I guess NVIDIA's CEO didn't want to do CPUs, or something?

lilac geyser May 24, 2020, 2:20 AM

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less heat = faster chip

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 2:20 AM

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What is the smallest working NM?

lilac geyser May 24, 2020, 2:20 AM

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well, technicalyl it means they can make it go faster for the same amount of heat

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 2:20 AM

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Probably made NVIDIA to create GPUs better than what was available at the time, since after all, AMD did use to be like too much heat for some performance

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 2:21 AM

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Is AMD or Intel winning right now?

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 2:21 AM

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Ehh, I wouldn't say either is winning

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Both are doing fine imo

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Intel is just gamer cpu and AMD is everything with a slight less gamer in their CPUs from my view

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But they're both just advancing technology of CPUs in a good way for me

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Well for everyone really

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 2:23 AM

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Though people keep recommending that I go to AMD when 4th gen or the refresh is here.

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 2:23 AM

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Well, yeah

vapid crypt May 24, 2020, 2:23 AM

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I would say AMD's CPUs are just better as it is right now. They perform better in everything else other than gaming technically, and even then that's mainly just at 1080p with a high end video card

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 2:23 AM

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They're not bad

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3300X is basically a 7700K but it's better

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 2:24 AM

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I don't plan to go to 4K anytime soon.

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I want to stick with 1440p.

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 2:24 AM

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1440p is perfect

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 2:24 AM

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But right now I am having difficulty finding parts to fit an all white build.

vapid crypt May 24, 2020, 2:24 AM

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Sure, which compared to 1080p; the cpu performance isn't really as apparent at 1440

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 2:24 AM

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You're doing an all white too?

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Wack

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 2:25 AM

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I want to do an all white,

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But is there any white motherboard that isn't discontinued?

vapid crypt May 24, 2020, 2:25 AM

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None that I'm aware of

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 2:25 AM

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X570 ASRock Taichi

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Not fully white, but def a good board and is nice

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 2:25 AM

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I want to do the B450M MSI Mortar Titanium, but it seems discontinued.

vapid crypt May 24, 2020, 2:26 AM

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There's no white on that?

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 2:26 AM

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Mortar isn't discontinued as far as I know

vapid crypt May 24, 2020, 2:26 AM

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The uh Taichi

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 2:26 AM

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There is

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 2:26 AM

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https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B450M-MORTAR-TITANIUM

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 2:26 AM

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Or like this silver ish thing

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pbvqqs/asrock-x570-taichi-atx-am4-motherboard-x570-taichi

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📎 a43cfe6b3deca519ea05604568cb0b4b.png

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I do however, wish it was actually white

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 2:26 AM

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That's the motherboard I want to use, but isn't it discontinued?

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 2:26 AM

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Like the majority of it

vapid crypt May 24, 2020, 2:26 AM

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You probably couldn't find one easily, let alone at a reasonable price

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 2:27 AM

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I think I've seen that recommended at one point?

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Or that's for X570

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 2:27 AM

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What about the Asus Prime X570-Pro?

lilac geyser May 24, 2020, 2:28 AM

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go for the asus primer :)

vapid crypt May 24, 2020, 2:28 AM

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Hmm motherboard stock seems to be scarce at the moment

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 2:28 AM

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Hah

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 2:28 AM

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Is it even safe to build a PC or buy parts during the pandemic?

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 2:28 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/DxrYcf/asus-prime-x570-pro-atx-am4-motherboard-prime-x570-pro

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Yeah, it's safe as far as I know

vapid crypt May 24, 2020, 2:28 AM

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I wouldn't worry about safety, but your wallet would be hurting phaWesker

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 2:29 AM

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The board isn't really too dark, but it's got nice white details to it

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 2:29 AM

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Air cooling or liquid AIO?

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 2:29 AM

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Your choice

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Air cooling is generally cheaper

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 2:30 AM

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Someone recommended me this one for an all white build for air cooling:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wPkj4D/deepcool-neptwin-white-7434-cfm-cpu-cooler-neptwin-white

vapid crypt May 24, 2020, 2:30 AM

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I prefer Air cooling and would always recommend that, but it doesn't matter all that much

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 2:31 AM

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What do you think of that one?

vapid crypt May 24, 2020, 2:31 AM

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I have a deepcool cooler myself, not that one; but yeah I'm sure its solid considering its a dual tower

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 2:32 AM

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If I want to go AIO, I want this one:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XzDJ7P/corsair-h100i-rgb-platinum-se-63-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-cw-9060042-ww

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 2:32 AM

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That’s not bad at all

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Only problem for me is that Corsair doesn’t sell white 360mm radiators lol

vapid crypt May 24, 2020, 2:33 AM

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Right the only one that fits the bill was the Raidmax liqtech or whatever its called

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 2:33 AM

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There’s only 1 360mm radiator that exists, and it seems to work pretty well if you replace the fans ofc

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There’s too little white colored things, poor me

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But after all, I manage to get something

vapid crypt May 24, 2020, 2:34 AM

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Oh it was Enermax

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I don't know why I thought it was Raidmax, but I guess that would be easy to confuse phaWesker

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 2:35 AM

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And there's only 3 all white motherboards, and it all seems only for mATX.

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 2:35 AM

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Well it can be an all white if you have this special sort of spray coating

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Forgot what it was, but it doesn’t really short circuit your mobo and it def is easily removable

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 2:36 AM

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I heard it's pretty difficult to do properly without having issues with overspray.

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 2:36 AM

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I’ve also managed to find a good vertical GPU mount that would work with my PC case pretty well

vapid crypt May 24, 2020, 2:36 AM

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Looking at the Enermax cooler its an off white, and I don't like it

📎 71S8hvW-41L.png

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 2:37 AM

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Oh boy

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It’s not using paint, it’s something else

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But like just a quick spray over, cover it all and it’ll work nicely

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As long as you cover valuable parts of it too

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 2:38 AM

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What does it mean as a con for the X570 Pro:
"Lack of enough Onboard troubleshooting features"

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 2:38 AM

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Hm?

vapid crypt May 24, 2020, 2:39 AM

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Not sure

lilac geyser May 24, 2020, 2:39 AM

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they probably mean no bios code readout

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 2:39 AM

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Ah, maybe

vapid crypt May 24, 2020, 2:39 AM

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Oh I see

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 2:40 AM

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As far as I’ve seen among X570, you have onboard CPU temp, which also will display letters and numbers to tell what’s wrong with your setup on hardware or software ( which is really really nice to have ), mobo has a reset bios button on board

vapid crypt May 24, 2020, 2:40 AM

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Some boards have small led displays that can show error codes if there's an issue

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Makes it easier to figure out what's wrong if there's a problem booting

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 2:41 AM

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And I really need to clean my PC of dust, but I'm scared to since I never done anything to it beyond opening up the front panel.

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 2:41 AM

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Air travels through the pc

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You have can, air comes from can and sprays air onto pc

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Absolutely no problems will happen from just cleaning a pc

lilac geyser May 24, 2020, 2:43 AM

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peaches come from a can

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uV14jq2n-jg

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 2:44 AM

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Can I use Q-Tips to clean the fans?

vapid crypt May 24, 2020, 2:44 AM

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As long as you don't dunk the pc into a full bathtub, nothing bad will happen phaWesker

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 2:44 AM

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And please tell me this still exists somewhere:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/W9vqqs/asus-geforce-rtx-2080-super-8-gb-strix-gaming-oc-video-card-rog-strix-rtx2080s-o8g-white-gaming

vapid crypt May 24, 2020, 2:45 AM

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Actually that's a good idea... I didn't think to do that for my intake fans. Got a fine layer on the inside of their blades PirateSimon

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 2:45 AM

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Should exist

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If it’s on pcpp it exists

vapid crypt May 24, 2020, 2:45 AM

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Good luck finding it

lilac geyser May 24, 2020, 2:45 AM

#

<

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 2:45 AM

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Wack

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1100$ for that card

vapid crypt May 24, 2020, 2:46 AM

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Yeah not even worth it

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 2:46 AM

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You're better off paying for a white 2080 Ti if it's that price

vapid crypt May 24, 2020, 2:46 AM

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The same model 2080ti is probably at 2 grand phaWesker

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 2:46 AM

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If you don't mind black fans on a GPU, https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Graphics-Windforce-Gv-N208SGAMINGOC-White-8GD/dp/B081W3L1SP/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=White+2080+Super&qid=1590288340&sr=8-1

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Nope

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https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Overclocked-DisplayPort-Graphics-ROG-STRIX-RTX2080S-O8G-WHITE/dp/B086M8TDCR/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=White+2080+Ti&qid=1590288419&sr=8-2

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1100$ as well

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Oh

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It's

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Fucking

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Super

vapid crypt May 24, 2020, 2:47 AM

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Could always for a black and white look

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 2:47 AM

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Ok I believe there's no full white 2080 Ti

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Or even a white on any 2080 Ti

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 2:47 AM

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$1500 on Microcenter.

vapid crypt May 24, 2020, 2:48 AM

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There is one, I think the Strix white edition is also on the 2080ti

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I wouldn't invest in Turing at all at this point though

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 2:48 AM

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Same

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But I did

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:)

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 2:48 AM

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But I'd have to drive all the way to California to get it since it's in store pickup only.

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 2:48 AM

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That's how Microcenter is

vapid crypt May 24, 2020, 2:48 AM

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Well I mean you had a 1060 3gb, so more power to you PirateSimon

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 2:48 AM

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I currently have an RTX 2080.

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 2:48 AM

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True

vapid crypt May 24, 2020, 2:48 AM

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Oh right, well then why bother?

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 2:49 AM

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Anything was better than a shitty intel onboard, so 1060 3GB was my get

vapid crypt May 24, 2020, 2:49 AM

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Could probably get a white 3080 whenever they release that

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 2:49 AM

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How good are Gigabyte cards?

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 2:49 AM

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And by the time, I had to get a better GPU since 3GB wasn't cutting it at all

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Wouldn't get 2080 Super because price

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Imo gigabyte has been p great

vapid crypt May 24, 2020, 2:50 AM

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No experience with gigabyte cards, but I'm sure they're fine

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 2:50 AM

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My 2070 Super is performing 60 celsius max

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no OC to it yet

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 2:50 AM

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4 of the 5 white cards of the 20 series on Newegg is out of stock.

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 2:50 AM

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But I assume it's because of the load being 50-80% sometimes due to CPU or RAM bottleneck or both

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who am I kidding a 7700K could handle a 1080 Ti and do 2080 Ti with a little bottleneck

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Must be 2400MHz CAS16 ram I get

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 2:51 AM

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Should I just take the 2080 from my current PC and put it into the new one?

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 2:52 AM

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Why buy the same card if you already got it?

lilac geyser May 24, 2020, 2:52 AM

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are you building a new pc cause you got a bsod on your old one?

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 2:52 AM

#

GWworkshopAkaShrug

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Or it could be a need for wanting white

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I don't blame him, he bought a prebuilt

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They're not gonna suddenly have all white prebuilts

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 2:53 AM

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I want to transition away from my prebuilt.

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 2:53 AM

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Reuse the GPU

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 2:53 AM

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And iBuyPower is pretty shit with their tech support.

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 2:53 AM

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Reuse the RAM if it's 3200-3600MHz CAS16

lilac geyser May 24, 2020, 2:53 AM

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a prebuilt with a 2080 must be a nice prebuilt though

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 2:53 AM

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Reuse your drives as well

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If you can, and if it fits, reuse the CPU cooler and PC fans

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 2:54 AM

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ADATA SU800 for the only drive it has.

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 2:54 AM

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ADATA SU800 is pretty good, has DRAM

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So if it's a small storage, use it for boot

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 2:54 AM

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1 TB.

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 2:55 AM

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That's pretty good, so you could fit some games onto it if you don't really take too much more than 1TB

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 2:55 AM

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I play about 90% of all the games I buy.

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But at times I have to uninstall one or two to make room for a new one.

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But 2 TB SSDs seem very expensive.

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 2:56 AM

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Definitely

#

As far as I know, they go for 200$+

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Considering it has DRAM

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 2:57 AM

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The current RAM I have won't fit well with a white build.

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Both sticks are solid green.

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 2:58 AM

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A solid green? That's new

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 2:59 AM

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They have no visible branding on them either.

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 2:59 AM

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That or it just doesn't have any cover on it lol

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Just bare green sticks

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 2:59 AM

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Yes,

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 2:59 AM

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Amazing

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 2:59 AM

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And you can see all the microchips on the sides.

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And one of them I think doesn't look soldered properly.

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Or I'm just too stupid and don't understand soldering.

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 3:01 AM

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Well it'd be strange if something was loosely soldered

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 3:02 AM

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The computer just blue screened again.

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 3:02 AM

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I've had experience with soldering, a little is req

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Oof

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 3:02 AM

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What do I do about this?

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 3:03 AM

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Well I'm not really sure, cause I have no experience with blue screen at all

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 3:07 AM

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Is there any program that can update and manage driver more conveniently than going through each one in Device Manager?

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 3:07 AM

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Mm, device manager is a no-no for me

vapid crypt May 24, 2020, 3:07 AM

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When I was having frequent blue screens after putting my computer together for the first time, the reason for it was having the ram installed in the incorrect channel

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 3:07 AM

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They do update, they're not very cool.

vapid crypt May 24, 2020, 3:08 AM

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Not saying that's the issue here, but that was the reason for the blue screens I was getting

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 3:08 AM

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Both sticks are in the 2nd and 4th slot.

#

The error I keep getting is Bad Pool Caller.

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 3:08 AM

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Incompatible something

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Software or hardware

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 3:09 AM

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How can I find it?

vapid crypt May 24, 2020, 3:10 AM

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Trial and error

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Even in my case I didn't realize my problem until the month after it got resolved phaWesker

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 3:10 AM

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Is it necessary that I completely reset everything and start fresh?

vapid crypt May 24, 2020, 3:11 AM

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I ended up replacing the motherboard entirely thinking it was defective PirateSimon

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 3:11 AM

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Haha

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If the motherboard didn't work, then would you even get a BSOD at that point?

vapid crypt May 24, 2020, 3:12 AM

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Well certain parts could fail I think, but it could still function overall

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 3:12 AM

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Just not effective if it was perfectly fine

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 3:12 AM

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Should I reset everything on my computer?

vapid crypt May 24, 2020, 3:13 AM

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I thought something was wrong with ram slots, but I think it was just having the RAM in the wrong configuration or something

lilac geyser May 24, 2020, 3:13 AM

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shawn: you can take a look at something called winows system restore

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 3:13 AM

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Probably

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Or reset bios

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 3:14 AM

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Should I try Windows System Restore?

vapid crypt May 24, 2020, 3:15 AM

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It couldn't hurt

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 3:15 AM

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Is this the setting I want?
https://gyazo.com/614c771d746575b703fbf89a97ef8c4e

lilac geyser May 24, 2020, 3:15 AM

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are you windows 10, im reading that its not enabled by default.... so oops

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thats something else

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i'm not familiar with that

lost saddle May 24, 2020, 3:17 AM

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Whats the easiest way to install an spdif port

lilac geyser May 24, 2020, 3:18 AM

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a sound card?

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 3:18 AM

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So what should I do?

lilac geyser May 24, 2020, 3:19 AM

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you bsod as soon as you launch witcher 3, or is it randomly

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 3:19 AM

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Randomly.

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I didn't have any game open and I was watching Youtube videos.

lost saddle May 24, 2020, 3:20 AM

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Thanks I was struggling finding the part I needed

lilac geyser May 24, 2020, 3:21 AM

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spidf used to be really common on motherboards

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is it less so nowadays?

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 3:21 AM

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Should I reset everything?

lost saddle May 24, 2020, 3:22 AM

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My new computer didnt have it

lilac geyser May 24, 2020, 3:22 AM

#

that technology never really caught on

vapid crypt May 24, 2020, 3:22 AM

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Curious, my motherboard has one

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 3:23 AM

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Is it necessary to have a sound card or no?

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Cause afaik sound cards aren't needed for headphones

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 3:23 AM

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I read somewhere that Malwarebytes can cause a Bad Pool Caller error.

lilac geyser May 24, 2020, 3:23 AM

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only high end audio gear needs separate hardware nowadays

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 3:23 AM

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I have malware bytes, never had that problem

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 3:24 AM

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I use Malwarebytes and Bitdefender together.

vapid crypt May 24, 2020, 3:24 AM

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Necessary: no but one could argue for the best possible sound you might want one? I've been seeing sponsor ads for them from EVGA not too long ago

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 3:24 AM

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I really don't see a need for one imo

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Perhaps I might use something separate to optimize my headphone audio buuut

lilac geyser May 24, 2020, 3:24 AM

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shawn: think carefully about what you might have dont just before the bsod first happened? a new program, a new update, new hardware?

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 3:24 AM

#

GWworkshopAkaShrug

vapid crypt May 24, 2020, 3:25 AM

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I think people just use Amps for that kind of thing if they really want that

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 3:25 AM

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@lilac geyser the only restore point I see is a Windows Update on 5/19.

vapid crypt May 24, 2020, 3:25 AM

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Were you getting blue screens before that update?

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 3:26 AM

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I don't think.

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 3:26 AM

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You can reverse an update

vapid crypt May 24, 2020, 3:26 AM

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Hmm...

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 3:26 AM

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5/19 was when I first began experiencing blue screens.

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 3:26 AM

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Which was when you updated windows 10

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Only option is to reverse your windows 10 update

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 3:27 AM

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"Find and fix bluescreen errors"
https://gyazo.com/56ec55c53e78dd498455cfe7d6a21711

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Damnit.

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 3:27 AM

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Strange

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 3:27 AM

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Hmm.

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I wish I could see the timestamps of when I sent messages regarding the blue screen on 5/19.

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 3:28 AM

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To Windows or discord?

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 3:28 AM

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Discord.

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 3:28 AM

#

ezpz

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 3:29 AM

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Because I want to know if I was having issues before or after the update took place.

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 3:30 AM

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So yeah

#

You started mentioning that on 19th

lilac geyser May 24, 2020, 3:30 AM

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shawn: put your name in the search on the top right corner

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 3:30 AM

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He has nothing on BSOD before the 19th

#

So that Windows 10 update must have fucked his PC in some way

vapid crypt May 24, 2020, 3:31 AM

#

Hmmm

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 3:31 AM

#

You do have an option as I've said to reverse to an older update

#

Basically you go to somewhere in the Update settings of Win 10, and there's an option to delete the updates that seem to mess with your PC

#

I had to do it for mine when a particular update was absolutely making Windows 10 pure cancer

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 3:33 AM

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@lilac geyser it only says the date, not the time.

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 3:34 AM

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Well that doesn't really matter now

#

Just try to delete the most recent update, see what happens

vapid crypt May 24, 2020, 3:37 AM

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Find out what the update is for too

lilac geyser May 24, 2020, 3:37 AM

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wow thats wack, i dont see the time either. another reason to hate discord

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 3:38 AM

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Get betterdiscord then I guess

lilac geyser May 24, 2020, 3:38 AM

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google for that update number and see if bsods are common with it

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 3:39 AM

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And get some addons that'll make it better ig

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 3:40 AM

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What do I tell about the update?

lilac geyser May 24, 2020, 3:40 AM

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idk, where'd you see you installed an update on 5/19?

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it didnt say which update?

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 3:41 AM

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https://gyazo.com/1988167e9111a83245214cfcb845a594

vapid crypt May 24, 2020, 3:41 AM

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Oh hey that's the update I happen to have there... good thing I haven't installed it

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 3:41 AM

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And clicking on that takes me to a page titled: "KB4497165: Intel microcode updates".

vapid crypt May 24, 2020, 3:42 AM

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I looked it up apparently its something to do with intel microcode, and I don't have an intel processor phaWesker

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 3:42 AM

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Go to Update settings on Windows 10, go to "View Update History" and there's an option to uninstall updates @torn ferry

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 3:42 AM

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I don't have a restore point though.

vapid crypt May 24, 2020, 3:42 AM

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Yeah just uninstall it, see how it goes

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 3:42 AM

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If you have no problems with Windows 10 for the moment, then don't update

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 3:43 AM

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But if I uninstall the update, how will it go back if I don't have a restore point for it or if I unknowingly deleted old updates?

vapid crypt May 24, 2020, 3:43 AM

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You can create a restore point right now

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 3:44 AM

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If you uninstall it, I believe you still have the option to reinstall it

vapid crypt May 24, 2020, 3:44 AM

#

Well yeah that too

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 3:44 AM

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But who would want to do that if that update messed with your system lol

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 3:45 AM

#

And what is the sound coming from my computer that sounds like a dying scorpion?

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 3:45 AM

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Mm

vapid crypt May 24, 2020, 3:46 AM

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Uh I don't know what that means

lilac geyser May 24, 2020, 3:46 AM

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probably the scorpion

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 3:46 AM

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Me neither

#

Hah

vapid crypt May 24, 2020, 3:46 AM

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Coil Whine maybe? I don't know what that sounds like tbh phaWesker

proper wren May 24, 2020, 3:50 AM

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locate the noise

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 3:51 AM

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If it's like a whiiiiiii then that's one of the fans

#

That's how they sound

#

GWjiangPepeThumb

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But if it's a clicking

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Then uhh, not sure

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But 90% cases it's fans

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 4:22 AM

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What brand makes the most reliable graphics cards?

lilac geyser May 24, 2020, 4:23 AM

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how much am i bing paid for answering this survey

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 4:24 AM

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Not really important about the brand

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 4:25 AM

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Survey?

lilac geyser May 24, 2020, 4:25 AM

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nvm

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 4:25 AM

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I'm a worthless human being who asks meaningless questions 23/24 hours of the day.

lilac geyser May 24, 2020, 4:27 AM

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i can offer you an anecdote, i had an amd hd4800 that lasted about 10 years before failing

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 4:27 AM

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It really depends

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It might last a few years, or quite short

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Doesn't matter what card, it'll happen to any PC part that exists

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 4:28 AM

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Can you paint graphics cards?

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 4:29 AM

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You can paint the shroud of it, sure

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The fans, probably

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 4:29 AM

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Do you have to dismantle the card first to paint it?

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 4:30 AM

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Of course

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You can watch one of Linus' video on it

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 4:30 AM

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Could I pay someone to do it since I feel I'd mess up?

lilac geyser May 24, 2020, 4:31 AM

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lol good question

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go find a geek at a computer store

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 4:31 AM

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Best Buy bad.

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 4:31 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTnE3TBIYDs

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This one shows how to take it off I believe

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 4:32 AM

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So you can only paint the shroud and fans?

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 4:32 AM

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You can try hydro dipping, really easy if you want to try that

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And yeah, for fans idk

lilac geyser May 24, 2020, 4:33 AM

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painting the heat spreader or the circuir board is extremly questionable

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 4:33 AM

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Take shroud off ezpz paint

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 4:33 AM

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The normal black ASUS RTX 2080 Super is around $800, the white one is almost $400 more.

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 4:33 AM

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I thiiiink you can do custom fans to it too

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But don't recommend

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 4:35 AM

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I'd definitely want LED fans on it if possible.

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To accentuate the card for an all white build.

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I assume the fans on a card aren't 120mm?

lilac geyser May 24, 2020, 4:37 AM

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gpu fans are usually very custom

eternal cairn May 24, 2020, 4:38 AM

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Have any of the RTX cards dropped in price yet?

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 4:38 AM

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Uhhh

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2060 something

eternal cairn May 24, 2020, 4:39 AM

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How much?

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 4:39 AM

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Something 50$ not noteworthy imo

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Was to beat 5600XT price maybe

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 4:39 AM

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Why are white parts more expensive?

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 4:39 AM

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I do not know.

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I wish I could be white for cheaper.

eternal cairn May 24, 2020, 4:40 AM

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Seriously, that's it?

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 4:40 AM

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Yeah

eternal cairn May 24, 2020, 4:40 AM

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The prices of the RTX cards haven't changed from launch at all?

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 4:40 AM

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afaik

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I guess 2080 Super became 700$? idk dude

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If I heard there was a price drop I'd know about it

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It'll drop with RTX 3000 perhaps

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 4:41 AM

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I would use the Inwin Infinity for an RGB build, but the case is really awful for cooling.

lilac geyser May 24, 2020, 4:41 AM

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nazo: it looks like the msrp of the 3990x was $3990, nvidia is trying to get uo to $2080

eternal cairn May 24, 2020, 4:42 AM

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😒

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 4:42 AM

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Oh, speaking of

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3900X has dropped significantly in price

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Plus a sale on Amazon is going on, 411$ for that CPU

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 4:42 AM

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Amazon shipping delays though.

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 4:42 AM

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411$

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Over paying for 500$

lilac geyser May 24, 2020, 4:43 AM

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gay: $411 for that doesnt seem possible

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 4:43 AM

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Amazon Prime not necessary anymore if Amazon will delay your items.

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 4:44 AM

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This delivers to me in 6 days, pretty normal https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-3900X-24-Thread-Processor/dp/B07SXMZLP9/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=3900X&qid=1590295426&sr=8-1

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"Want it Saturday, May 30? Choose Two-Day Shipping at checkout"

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May 24, 2020. 00:24 ( 12:44AM )

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 4:44 AM

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I also don't know what case I should choose for my all white build.

lilac geyser May 24, 2020, 4:45 AM

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3900 vs 3990, read again

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 4:45 AM

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I know

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 4:45 AM

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Thermaltake View 71 looks cool, but I heard the panel screws get easily cross threaded.

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 4:45 AM

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I just saw 3990X, reminded me of the 3900X

abstract kite May 24, 2020, 4:46 AM

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Hey quick question can anyone tell me what (Image Below) Motherboard is? I am looking on google and it just seems a bit off.

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fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 4:46 AM

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Wanted to say to remind if anyone here might look through and see it suddenly "Oh boy, a 3900X for 411$!"

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What do you mean?

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That brings to this board https://www.amazon.com/Dell-42P49-OptiPlex-MIH61R-Motherboard/dp/B00BL2N1NY

abstract kite May 24, 2020, 4:48 AM

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Isnt that a 32-Bit Board?

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I am having a moment

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 4:48 AM

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From what it looks it's some pre 2000 board

abstract kite May 24, 2020, 4:49 AM

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So it is a 32-bit?

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And doesn't that dictate the Operating System?

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 4:49 AM

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Too early, has DDR3 so uhh

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Trying to look

lilac geyser May 24, 2020, 4:49 AM

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ddr3 memory, so not before 2000

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beat me to it

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 4:50 AM

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https://www.dell.com/downloads/global/products/optix/en/optiplex_3010_technical_guidebook.pdf this is guidebook to board

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Yeah 32 bit max color depth if that's what you wanted?

lilac geyser May 24, 2020, 4:50 AM

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what utility did you pull those IDs from?

abstract kite May 24, 2020, 4:50 AM

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My friends System Information

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 4:51 AM

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Can fit an AMD Radeon HD 7000 series

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Wait uhh

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Well 32 bit and 64 bit isn't really color something for that

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To fully utilize 4GB or more of memory requires a 64-bit enabled processor and 64-bit operating system.With 32-bit OS, the total amount of available memory will be less than 4GB. The amount less depends on the actual system configuration

abstract kite May 24, 2020, 4:52 AM

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Isn't color?

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 4:52 AM

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From manual ^

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So he can use 64 bit windows

abstract kite May 24, 2020, 4:52 AM

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So the only reason it is a 64-bit is because of that i7?

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 4:53 AM

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What is the worst PC case?

abstract kite May 24, 2020, 4:53 AM

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Ask...

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Ah what is his name

lilac geyser May 24, 2020, 4:53 AM

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why is there a question, it says 64bit in the screenshot

abstract kite May 24, 2020, 4:53 AM

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The guy with the Alienware PC

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 4:53 AM

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Anything from Alienware is shit

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lol

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 4:53 AM

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Alienware bad.

abstract kite May 24, 2020, 4:53 AM

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^

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 4:54 AM

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Massive joke to anyone with a little knowledge in PCs

torn ferry May 24, 2020, 4:54 AM

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The future of prebuilts is curved edges according to them.

abstract kite May 24, 2020, 4:54 AM

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My friend is asking about upgrading their PC

fleet canopy May 24, 2020, 4:54 AM

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And by little I mean sufficient knowledge that you know Alienware sucks

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lol their cases look fucking ugly to me

abstract kite May 24, 2020, 4:54 AM

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I like some of their cases

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But I will never buy one xD