#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk | GTFO | Page 104

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 9:50 PM

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If you're trying to build a small sized pc basically not much different in size from like a typical console, the mini-ITX form factor is an option. You would need specific parts to be of compatible size

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This comes at a premium though phaSheva

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 9:50 PM

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I honestly wish I had gone ITX with my build.

lilac geyser May 19, 2020, 9:51 PM

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guys, it sounds like he needs to know what atx and itx and all those things are

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 9:51 PM

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^

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 9:51 PM

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ATX, mATX, ITX, and DTX are motherboard form factors.

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 9:51 PM

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Sure, these are the standard sizes of the mainboard. Where everything plugs into

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 9:52 PM

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ATX is the most common. Many of the good motherboards are this size. ITX is the smallest form factor.

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MATX is smaller than ATX, but bigger than ITX pretty much

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DTX is a no.

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 9:52 PM

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DTX is interesting, fite me

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 9:52 PM

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DTX is like a small size

lilac geyser May 19, 2020, 9:52 PM

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the motherboard will say what size it is, and the case will say what sizes it can accept. most cases can accept a few sizes untill you get to the small sizes

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 9:53 PM

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I'm not so sure what DTX size really is pretty much

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 9:53 PM

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Mini-iTX can have only one expansion slot, whereas Mini-DTX has the same width and can have two expansion slots.
@fleet canopy

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 9:53 PM

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A lot of cases usually fit ATX/MATX pretty much

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Ah

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 9:53 PM

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the one you sent me senko was atx all those parts would fit correct?

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 9:54 PM

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Yep yep

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PCPartPicker predetermines sizes and makes sure everything will fit (generally. there are some exceptions).

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You shouldn't have to worry about anything with that part list

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 9:55 PM

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ok I am going to go eat then find the cheapest 1600af I can find thanks for all the help 😄

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 9:55 PM

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Lemme become Linus and make a superior SSF build

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 9:55 PM

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If you can't find the 1600AF, The Ryzen 3 3100 or R5 2600 are good alternatives.

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The 2600 will be more expensive though, so keep that in mind.

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 9:55 PM

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3100 def

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It's proven a good CPU

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 9:56 PM

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3100 is literally an AMD-made 7700K on steroids.

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 9:56 PM

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I thought that was the 3300x?

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Not unless you also overclock it too

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 9:56 PM

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3300X has higher clocks iirc, but you can still achieve that with the 3100

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Idk why but budget parts so appealing to me. I have a 3700X but I'm looking at 3300Xs like 👀

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 9:57 PM

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lmfao

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Maybe take some time to look at Linus, he made a 1080 Ti/3700X build in SSF

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 9:59 PM

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Oh trust me, whenever I build a new system it's definitely going to be SFF.

NZXT better continue the H1 line for a few more years. I love that case but I can't justify getting a new mobo, low profile ram, and a different storage device to transfer everything over to that case currently.

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I'll have this one for years though. So much upgradability.

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@warped hedge Over here literally bought a 3800X after I got my chip just so he could one-up me. kek

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:02 PM

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I'm hoping to make a white build with the Lian Li

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 10:02 PM

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The 3300X is closer to the 7700k, technically better. But yeah reason being is cause it has its 4 cores on a single CCX, where as the 3100 splits them into two dual core CCX

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 10:02 PM

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THISbounce

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 10:02 PM

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The single CCX improves on latency

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 10:02 PM

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so what do I go for lmao

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1600af?

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 10:03 PM

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What's your budget and are you primarily gaming?

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I haven't been reading all this so phaWesker

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 10:03 PM

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budget max is 850

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and wdym by primarily gaming

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 10:03 PM

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What will you be doing with the PC mainly

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 10:04 PM

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gtfo, minecraft and probably some fps

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 10:04 PM

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Okay well some would say if you're gaming, the graphics card should be 40% of the budget

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 10:04 PM

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could I send you the list for pcpartpicker?

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 10:04 PM

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Sure that would work

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 10:04 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cByJXv

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 10:05 PM

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Honestly that case is making me thunk

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:05 PM

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I picked it lol, for the price

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You can buy a better one anyway

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 10:05 PM

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Kind of want to suggest a different one for better airflowo

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:05 PM

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The uhhh

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 10:05 PM

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ok what one?

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:06 PM

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Meshify C

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 10:06 PM

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Too expensive

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:06 PM

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Focus G?

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 10:06 PM

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The Focus G would be better

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Ye

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:06 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GrwN7T

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 10:06 PM

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does it matter what color?

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 10:06 PM

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That's up to you

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:06 PM

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Eh, your choice

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Yeah

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 10:06 PM

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Whichever you like better

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 10:07 PM

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because the white looks nice and its 65

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and it would match my monitor

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:07 PM

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I believe the fans in Focus G is already white?

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 10:07 PM

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Go for that one then

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:07 PM

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Might have some driver to modify the color too

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 10:07 PM

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The fans already illuminate in white yea

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 10:07 PM

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Oh you're going for micro

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 10:08 PM

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micro?

lilac geyser May 19, 2020, 10:08 PM

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the motherboard is microATX size

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in your list

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:08 PM

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Oh yeah didn't notice that at first

lilac geyser May 19, 2020, 10:08 PM

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so you could go with a smaller case if you want small

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:08 PM

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Yeah

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 10:08 PM

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B450 Tomahawk for ATX perhaps?

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:09 PM

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Yeah

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It's like 30-40$ more

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 10:09 PM

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Yeah you could get a larger motherboard, or a smaller case

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:09 PM

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750-770$ ish

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Below 800$ either way

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6TT8k6

lilac geyser May 19, 2020, 10:09 PM

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theres no real disadvantage to using that motherboard in a bigger case though, right?

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:09 PM

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Not at all

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But it can kind of look ehh in a way

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 10:10 PM

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so senko the list you just sent with the ryzen 5 1600?

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:11 PM

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Mhm, try looking for a 1600AF

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If you can't find, go with a 2600 or a 3600 if it's cheap enough

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 10:11 PM

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ok

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:11 PM

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It's gonna be closer to 850$ if you went with 2600/3600 however

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 10:12 PM

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I think the 750$ I am going to go for

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any places you recommend to look for 1600af?

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:14 PM

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I've tried looking for it myself, but can't

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 10:14 PM

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If you have a Microcenter near you that would be best.

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 10:14 PM

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Amazon has it listed with that serial number

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 10:14 PM

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If not try Amaxon

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:14 PM

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Oh-

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https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Processor-Wraith-Stealth-Cooler/dp/B07XTQZJ28/ref=sr_1_1?crid=8L2HRUWO736R&dchild=1&keywords=1600af&qid=1589926427&sprefix=1600A%2Caps%2C143&sr=8-1

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 10:14 PM

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Look for AF at the end

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:14 PM

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YD1600BBAFBOX

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But this shit is like 150$

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 10:14 PM

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If you go into a store, look for that exact part number listed on the heat spreader

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:15 PM

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It should be on the box pretty much

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 10:15 PM

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Yeah price scalpers

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No surprise there

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:15 PM

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Where that barcode is

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 10:15 PM

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my head xD

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 10:15 PM

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This is what you want to look for
YD1600BBAFBOX
This is what you want to avoid
YD1600BBAEBOX

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:15 PM

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If you can't get it for a cheaper price, get a 3600

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I have put it in

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 10:16 PM

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can't get it for less than how much would you say?

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:16 PM

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You should be able to get it for 85-100$

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 10:17 PM

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ok I will look on amazon and newegg

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:17 PM

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https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Processor-Wraith-Stealth-Cooler/dp/B07XTQZJ28/ref=sr_1_1?crid=8L2HRUWO736R&dchild=1&keywords=1600af&qid=1589926427&sprefix=1600A%2Caps%2C143&sr=8-1 <<<<<

lilac geyser May 19, 2020, 10:17 PM

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ouch i just took a real quick look and its going for $150 on a few sites

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:17 PM

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Yeah

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We might have a sale soon though, I think?

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It is close to near the end of the school year soooo

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They might randomly do sales probably

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 10:18 PM

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is this close enough? https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-3-3200g/p/N82E16819113571

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94$

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:19 PM

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Mm, I wouldn't want to get it myself

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 10:19 PM

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ok

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:19 PM

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Just try to find a 1600 for 85-100$

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 10:19 PM

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You're getting a Ryzen 3?

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:19 PM

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He's getting a 1600

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 10:19 PM

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Erm

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Not familiar.

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:20 PM

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Ryzen 5 1600AF

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 10:20 PM

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Ohh

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 10:20 PM

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151 on newegg too rip

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:20 PM

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But they're selling it for 150$ for some reason

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It's a fat joke

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 10:20 PM

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Is that to much?

lilac geyser May 19, 2020, 10:20 PM

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this is what happens even every youtuber recommends it

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:21 PM

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If you cannot find any of the 1600AF for 85-115$, get a Ryzen 5 3600

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 10:21 PM

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I have a budget of around 850 @abstract kite

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:21 PM

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So wait until it's close to the day you're going to buy it

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 10:21 PM

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ok

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:21 PM

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Because with that 3600, it makes it a little under 850$

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 10:21 PM

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ok ty

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with af at the end or no?

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:22 PM

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Yeah

torn ferry May 19, 2020, 10:22 PM

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I got a BSOD with the Bad Pool Caller stop code, what does that mean?

lilac geyser May 19, 2020, 10:22 PM

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there are rumors the 1600af is discontinued, which would explain the high prices

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:22 PM

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@lament merlin Full number - YD1600BBAFBOX

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I can understand them discontinuing it tbh

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 10:23 PM

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ok ty

torn ferry May 19, 2020, 10:23 PM

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What do I do?

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:23 PM

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" Blue Screen of Death errors such as BAD POOL CALLER are often caused by hardware or software incompatibility. If certain hardware or software isn't fully compatible with Windows 10"

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Wack

lilac geyser May 19, 2020, 10:24 PM

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does it keep happening shawn?

torn ferry May 19, 2020, 10:24 PM

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Yea, am I screwed?

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:24 PM

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Nope

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 10:24 PM

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No.

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:24 PM

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Just gotta check a few things pretty much

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 10:24 PM

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What is the parts in your rig?

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 10:24 PM

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if there there is no YD1600BBAFBOX guessing it means it isn't af?

torn ferry May 19, 2020, 10:24 PM

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i7-8700K, RTX 2080.

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:25 PM

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YD1600BBAFBOX is an AF

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If you don't see that, it's not an AF

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 10:25 PM

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there isnt even any of YD1600BBAFBOX at the end

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:25 PM

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Not in my link>?

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https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Processor-Wraith-Stealth-Cooler/dp/B07XTQZJ28/ref=sr_1_1?crid=8L2HRUWO736R&dchild=1&keywords=1600af&qid=1589926427&sprefix=1600A%2Caps%2C143&sr=8-1

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The price may lower at any point

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 10:25 PM

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@torn ferry You're mobo?

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 10:25 PM

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no I am looking for a 3200 see how much it is because I might as well get it

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:26 PM

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I wouldn't go for a 3200G

torn ferry May 19, 2020, 10:26 PM

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ASROCK Z370 IB-R.

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 10:26 PM

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Nah don't bother with the 3200G

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:26 PM

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You can however go with a 3100 if you want

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It's closer to a 7700K

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 10:26 PM

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ok

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 10:26 PM

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If you're gonna get a Ryzen 3, get the 3300X

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:26 PM

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Or that ^

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 10:26 PM

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Its well worth it cause of its single CCX

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:26 PM

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Depending on the price really

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 10:26 PM

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I don't think they're in stock yet, maybe up for pre-order

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:27 PM

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I guess so

torn ferry May 19, 2020, 10:27 PM

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What do I do?

lilac geyser May 19, 2020, 10:27 PM

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was windows ever running ok on it shawn?

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 10:27 PM

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What were you doing when the blue screen happened?

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 10:27 PM

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would https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-3200G-Unlocked-Processor/dp/B07STGHZK8/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=ryzen+3+3100&qid=1589927239&s=electronics&sr=1-1 work?

torn ferry May 19, 2020, 10:27 PM

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Playing Witcher 3 for the first time.

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I was playing games just fine until I tried Witcher 3 today.

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Avoid 3200G

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 10:29 PM

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So the 3200G is a quad core, no SMT. It wouldn't be on par with an older i7. By all means it would work, but I wouldn't say it would be worth it

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 10:29 PM

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ok

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3 3100 right? no af?

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:29 PM

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1600AF, 3100, or 3300X

torn ferry May 19, 2020, 10:29 PM

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How do I check which is outdated?

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 10:29 PM

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The 3100 is gonna be $99, the 3300X is gonna be $119

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:30 PM

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Not bad actually

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You can wait a bit for 3300X

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It should be coming in stock or is already in stock at some places

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They apparently have the 3300X at Newegg

torn ferry May 19, 2020, 10:30 PM

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Is my computer screwed or can I fix it?

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:30 PM

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But it's 230$ tf

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 10:30 PM

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I don't think its been put in stock yet huh?

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It ships from Hong Kong

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:31 PM

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Oh.

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Yeah we'll have to wait Iguess

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 10:31 PM

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So that's that, it hasn't been shipped globally yet

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Huh someone in the reviews says its a 3200G phaWesker

torn ferry May 19, 2020, 10:32 PM

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It said I had a Windows update, so I updated it and restarting the PC now.

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 10:32 PM

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Which technically the image is a 3200G

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That is accurate

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 10:32 PM

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lowest I see for 3100 is 110

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 10:33 PM

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Where?

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 10:33 PM

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wdym where?

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:33 PM

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What web?

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 10:33 PM

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Where do you see that price I mean?

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 10:33 PM

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https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1558667-REG/amd_ryzen_3_3100_quad_core.html?ap=y&smp=y

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 10:34 PM

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Oh okay, so its expected June

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:34 PM

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Oof

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 10:34 PM

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And you can preorder

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:34 PM

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June is like

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In a month actually

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 10:34 PM

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2 weeks

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 10:34 PM

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there is also 3 3300x for 120

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 10:34 PM

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https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1558666-REG/amd_ryzen_3_3300x_quad_core.html

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:34 PM

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So that's perfect for you since you have like a month until you have to buy a PC yourself

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 10:34 PM

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yea

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:34 PM

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Yeah you're pretty good

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 10:34 PM

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I'd say order that as soon as possible

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:34 PM

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Wait for that 3300X

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 10:34 PM

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I think its gonna be a hot seller

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:35 PM

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Oh it will

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 10:35 PM

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for 3300x?

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:35 PM

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Mhm

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 10:35 PM

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Yeah, well both of them

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 10:35 PM

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should I order now?

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:35 PM

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Amazon/Newegg might be selling it too, so if you want you can check that

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 10:35 PM

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Nah I can't find them listed

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:35 PM

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I mean when it releases

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 10:35 PM

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Not on Amazon, and the Newegg listings are from Hong Kong

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But yeah maybe in a few weeks

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 10:36 PM

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so where?

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:36 PM

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So we just have to wait for them to actually start giving it out and you got amazon/newegg, not really trusty with B&H imo, never used it

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 10:36 PM

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ok

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 10:36 PM

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I've never shopped there, but I wouldn't distrust it

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:37 PM

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Yeah

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 10:37 PM

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Its like any electronic retailer, like a best buy or something

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:37 PM

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It's got great google reviews apparently

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So hey, can't say it's bad

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 10:38 PM

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@fleet canopy can you send the pcpartpicker list again?

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:38 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6TT8k6

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CPU options pretty much
3300X or 1600AF

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 10:39 PM

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ok

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:39 PM

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I'd just recommend going with a 3300X however

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 10:39 PM

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I think I am going for the 3300x

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:39 PM

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So wait for that CPU to come out, and buy before it runs out of stock

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 10:39 PM

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Oh forget the Focus G

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 10:39 PM

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?

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:39 PM

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Focus G isn't bad though

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 10:40 PM

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That uh fan you picked there is a molex fan I think

torn ferry May 19, 2020, 10:40 PM

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Is my PC screwed? The BSOD happened twice.

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 10:40 PM

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You gotta get the p12 pwm pst

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 10:40 PM

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ARCTIC P12 PWM PST?

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 10:40 PM

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Yes

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 10:41 PM

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ok I switched it

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:41 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/R6CjQq

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 10:41 PM

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You get two of em you can chain em together, it comes with a splitter built in

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 10:41 PM

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would that be good to do?

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 10:42 PM

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Well it opens up for convenient fan set up, cause you only have so many fan headers on the motherboard

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 10:42 PM

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so 2 probably?

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 10:42 PM

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The one fan was just to get an exhaust

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That's certainly the intention

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Cause the case comes with two on the front

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 10:43 PM

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so should I get 2 or nah?

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 10:43 PM

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You could for a top exhaust

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 10:43 PM

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ok

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 10:43 PM

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Actually wait a second...

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Oh nevermind

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:44 PM

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Focus G has like 2 fans on front

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Just need one fan to do exhaust on back or top

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 10:44 PM

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and when is the 3300x supposed to come out?

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:44 PM

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June 8 ish

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 10:44 PM

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B&H suggest June

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 10:44 PM

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ok

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:45 PM

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Released on April, but didn't come to America yet GWmythicalThonkCool

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 10:45 PM

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so I should have my pc at MOST by july

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:45 PM

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Yeah

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 10:45 PM

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They got that 3500X for DIY in Asia too, we never got that part

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That's the 6c/6t part

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 10:46 PM

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ok tysm for all the help and hope to start playing some gtfo soon 😄

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:46 PM

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I must now learn how to make a PC list without it being 3000$ lmao

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2500$ really, but I should be able to go lower

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 10:46 PM

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I have to really try to get it to 3000 phaWesker

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:47 PM

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Lmfao

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If I wanted to do that, I could get a 4900X and a 3080, perhaps

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LNKYBZ for now it is this

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Probably pretty shit

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Dunno about the motherboard myself

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I'm not really too smart in that part

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 10:48 PM

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All of the Asrock boards have the chipset fan in the worst location

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:48 PM

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Hah

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Wonder how it's okay

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 10:48 PM

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Like the Taichi is good, but everyones like "my card covers it oh no!" so then you got people using the slot below that

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Which is also X16

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So it doesn't matter

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:48 PM

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I'm pretty much gonna do a vertical GPU mount

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Just because I can

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 10:49 PM

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Oh so sacrificing performance for style phaWesker

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:49 PM

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I heard the bios doesn't also save sometimes

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It sacrifices performance? lmao

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 10:49 PM

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Yeah it doesn't cool as well mounted vertically

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:49 PM

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Oof, how come

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Didn't know it wasn't that good

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 10:50 PM

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Cause its pulling air pushed against the side panel

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:50 PM

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Mm no

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It's going to be a Lian Li

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So it should be having enough space

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VxRzK8/lian-li-pc-o11dw-atx-full-tower-case-pc-o11dw

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 10:50 PM

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I don't think it would be any different, like the point is it will still heat up more in that configuration

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:50 PM

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GWworkshopAkaShrug

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So what if the bottom fans are intakes?

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Should push that air up

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📎 Lianlicasefan.png

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That's how it's going to be

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 10:51 PM

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That would maybe negate the issue

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:52 PM

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So I could be fine?

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Cause this fan setup was from a video that I pretty much decided to copy that

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KU6vIDpNaxw

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 10:53 PM

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Their card isn't vertically mounted....

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:53 PM

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6:13 has the results

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Shouldn't be that much of a problem

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 10:53 PM

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Come to think of it shouldn't there be an opening on the back side of the case?

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:53 PM

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There is, but too small for a fan

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So it's the side, bottom and top

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 10:54 PM

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Well I mean for the card

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For when you mount it vertically

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:54 PM

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Hm

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I'm not too sure

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You could look into it yourself

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 10:54 PM

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If that's the case the o11 doesn't support vertical mounting

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See there, just an example

📎 Cooler-Master-MasterCase-H500P-Mesh-White.png

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:55 PM

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Oh I see

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I've seen vertical mounts before on lian li

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 10:55 PM

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Maybe the o11 XL

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:55 PM

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the XL, hm

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 10:56 PM

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Hmm it has venting there, but it doesn't look like its for vertical mounting

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The Meshify S2 has those vertical brackets

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:57 PM

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📎 71Nll3ju5FL.png

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That's actually a different case

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 10:57 PM

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Another Derbaur case phaWesker

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:57 PM

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kek

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 10:57 PM

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https://graphicscardhub.com/vertical-gpu-case/

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 10:59 PM

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I want to go with Lian li just cause I like the design pretty much

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I could look into the XL, but it's massive

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Unless I'm seeing it wron

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 10:59 PM

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Sure fair enough, just gotta make sure it supports the vertical mounting if you really want that

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 11:00 PM

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Well do you have any recommendations?

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Cause I believe the O11 has at least support to fit in vertical

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O11D XL-W?

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It seems like it has that support

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But it really doesn't look like it

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 11:02 PM

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Actually it looks like that slot on the side can be removed

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 11:02 PM

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On O11 or O11D XL-W?

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https://pcpartpicker.com/b/82TBD3

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This one has the vertical support

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 11:03 PM

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Oh okay, Its not something I'm interested in so

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I don't quite understand it

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 11:22 PM

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Maybe I could get a good 360mm CPU radiator tbh, and replace the fans with the corsair ones still

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I still have to find a white one though

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 11:23 PM

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There's a white corsair 360 rad

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Probably comes with the same fans

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 11:23 PM

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Oh?

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 11:23 PM

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I've seen it before

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Oh hmmm

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I guess I was wrong, its not 360

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 11:24 PM

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Yeah

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 11:24 PM

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Their only white radiator is a 240

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 11:24 PM

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"I just looked at the photo again, and it is the white 240mm rad. I could have sworn on a stack of bibles that there was an image there earlier that showed a white 360mm rad. So, either I'm losing my mind, Corsair changed the image, or both."

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7 months ago however

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But it could be possible

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 11:25 PM

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Amazing phaWesker

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/G6kj4D/enermax-liqtech-ii-360-10217-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-elc-ltto360-tbp-w

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There's a white rad

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 11:25 PM

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Hah

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That's the only 360mm white rad?

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 11:26 PM

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The only one listed on pc part picker yeah

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 11:26 PM

#

pixels9Wut

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Well I don't mind if it's not listed on PCPP

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 11:27 PM

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I don't think its a bad one

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 11:27 PM

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I'll have to check the reviews for that

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The design is kiiinda ehh

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But I'll check it out

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 11:27 PM

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People are saying the fans are bad

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But if you're replacing them, I mean

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 11:28 PM

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Yeah I'll just replace it with corsair ll120

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 11:28 PM

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You're only gonna see the pump block for the most part

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 11:28 PM

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For the most part as if hah

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 11:28 PM

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Unless you're top mounting huh?

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 11:28 PM

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Not top mounting

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Side mount

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 11:28 PM

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Well yeah you would mostly see the fans then right?

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 11:28 PM

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I could do a top mount however, but I feel like it's a better option to do it side mount

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The heat rises, sooo

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If I have it as side intake

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 11:29 PM

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Right if you have it as in intake it would pull air from the room

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 11:29 PM

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That way I won't have to worry about the heat rising into the rad if I put it side

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 11:29 PM

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effectively cooling

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The cpu

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 11:29 PM

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Mhm

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It's 7$ cheaper than Corsair's 2 fan white CPU cooler lmao

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Noctua has a white 360mm AIO too

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 11:30 PM

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Corsair charges the premium for their brand as you know

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 11:30 PM

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I'll check that out

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Yeah 3 fans for 100$

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 11:30 PM

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I didn't know Noctua made AIOs

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 11:30 PM

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No wait

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It's just saying that Noctua's cooler keeps up with AIo

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I curse the man who titled the video

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 11:31 PM

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Oh right the NH-D15

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 11:31 PM

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I'll just check the video review of the white aio you gave me lmao

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 11:39 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1N2NCpZ6Otk

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Steve talked to AMD about the chipset stuff

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 11:40 PM

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mmm yes

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I've heard of that

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I wonder why he has a cyberpunk thing

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 11:42 PM

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Looks like a custom front cover for a coolermaster case

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 11:42 PM

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Seems like it

fleet canopy May 20, 2020, 12:17 AM

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My only question is how I can manage to use 9 fans at once

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I know there's like, a little thing for any fan cable to plug to another fan

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But I kind of feel like it's not always a thing?

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Apparently this works pretty well, despite not showing anything for Lian Li

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Fits in anything with 7 expansion slots pretty much

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https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Accessory-MasterBox-MasterCase/dp/B071P862G1/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&qid=1545053672&sr=8-1&keywords=cooler%2Bmaster%2Bvertical%2Bgpu%2Bmount&linkCode=sl1&tag=techreflex0d-20&linkId=11bdf6d61118fd28bfd103ca7a380d1e&th=1

vapid crypt May 20, 2020, 12:52 AM

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So you can get a fan hub to fit all of that, and if I'm not mistaken those fan kits might come with one each

warped hedge May 20, 2020, 12:57 AM

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i was pinged here @abstract kite

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why

abstract kite May 20, 2020, 12:58 AM

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https://discordapp.com/channels/408196129470152705/584808651164745809/712424536997625876

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@warped hedge

warped hedge May 20, 2020, 12:58 AM

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lamo

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u right

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3800x slept on chip

lilac geyser May 20, 2020, 3:03 AM

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crazy that amd is reversing the decision

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i have to assume the public outcry was larger than the number of people who bought a 400-series mottherboard and actually planned on upgrading to zen3

late sorrel May 20, 2020, 3:10 AM

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wait what decision are they reversing?

lilac geyser May 20, 2020, 3:10 AM

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zen3 support on 400-series motherboards

late sorrel May 20, 2020, 3:10 AM

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oh

lilac geyser May 20, 2020, 3:10 AM

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they said no support at first

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now there will be i guess

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they might be lawsuit aversive after the bulldozer fiasco

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also its never time for bad publicity, but amd had finally gained a good reputation again after years of not having it

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*just finally

late sorrel May 20, 2020, 3:13 AM

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yeah, they've really earnt it in the last few years

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Not super reputable on the GPU side of things, but that's not a huge worry

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I'd really like to see the RVII Pro come out decently

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It seems like it's very much a refresh on the old RVII, however I'd still like to see it do well

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16GB HMB2 is a really good selling factor

lilac geyser May 20, 2020, 3:15 AM

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i didnt know about the pro model news

late sorrel May 20, 2020, 3:15 AM

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https://www.amd.com/en/products/professional-graphics/radeon-pro-vii

lilac geyser May 20, 2020, 3:17 AM

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ah a workstation card

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i was about to say: i do laugh at graphics cards (for gaming) with huge memories, its like..by the time any game can take advantage of that much your card will be terribly slow by comparison

late sorrel May 20, 2020, 3:18 AM

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It's right on the money compared to it's competetor

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About the same price but with better performance

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HBM2 vs GDDR6 is a bump though

lilac geyser May 20, 2020, 3:19 AM

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an expensive bump i bet

late sorrel May 20, 2020, 3:20 AM

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they are the same price

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gpu card wise

lilac geyser May 20, 2020, 3:22 AM

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oh yeah and same ram, i guess i was thinking of vega 64

late sorrel May 20, 2020, 3:23 AM

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huh?

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the quadro has the GDDR6 which performs worse than HMB2

fleet canopy May 20, 2020, 5:14 AM

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Well you can use more than 11GB at some games

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But we’ve had 8-11GB for some good one

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Time*

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And we should have at least 14GB for the 3080 Ti, 11 for 3080 imo

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But I can understand

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I know the Vega or some amd GPU has 16GB at one point, but it was eh

late sorrel May 20, 2020, 5:18 AM

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the regular radeon vii had 16gb

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but yes, with skyrim and shit you do use that 16gb

fleet canopy May 20, 2020, 5:39 AM

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Yeah

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And NVIDIA should have done 16GB by then

late sorrel May 20, 2020, 5:40 AM

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yeah

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well you can still buy a quadro with 16gb if you want

fleet canopy May 20, 2020, 5:41 AM

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How good would that be though

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Because I’m sure there’s a GPU far better than the quadro with 16GB for a much better price to perf

late sorrel May 20, 2020, 5:41 AM

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true

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I am looking forward to seeing other workstation benches in regards to the radeon vii pro

fleet canopy May 20, 2020, 5:42 AM

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Yeah

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I’m just waiting for GPUs to have more than 10GB for like 800$ and performs a lot better than a 2080 Super I guess

late sorrel May 20, 2020, 5:45 AM

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yeah

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I think one guy with the rvii said that skyrim w/ mods maxed out at about 11gb?

fleet canopy May 20, 2020, 5:46 AM

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I guess

late sorrel May 20, 2020, 5:46 AM

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still

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we do need more vram

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4gb is not enough

fleet canopy May 20, 2020, 5:46 AM

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8GB is fairly okay

late sorrel May 20, 2020, 5:47 AM

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well yeah, and if my rx 570 had 8gb, I wouldn't be complaining

fleet canopy May 20, 2020, 5:47 AM

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But we are literally having GPUs that’ll be pretty dang fast

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And it doesn’t mean we get less off the VRAM unless that’s how it is

lilac geyser May 20, 2020, 6:37 AM

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i'd like to see a progressive billing service for vram

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like the original card just costs $50 or something

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and if you only use 1gig you only pay $10 a month

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but if you use all 8gig then its $40 per month

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like it tracks its usage over time

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its much more consistant with how i pay for utilitity bills like electricity and water, based on usage

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and as a customer that makes me feel more comfortable

late sorrel May 20, 2020, 6:40 AM

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please never speak again

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I am personally contacting all the mods to get you banned

lilac geyser May 20, 2020, 6:41 AM

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so that is actually the logic that ISPs presented when they started charging in per gb usage

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that customers were not comfortable with the normal way

late sorrel May 20, 2020, 6:41 AM

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I mean it's more mumbo jumbo to get you to pay them more

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fuck ISPs, me and the homies are starting our own and including it on taxes

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also raising speeds to decent levels, actually charging based on how much it costs to maintain (zero profit motive)

lament merlin May 20, 2020, 10:52 AM

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ok I got a question can any ppl that know stuff about pcs answer?

brisk badger May 20, 2020, 10:54 AM

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ask the question

lament merlin May 20, 2020, 10:54 AM

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for a starter pc would the 3300x be good to go for?

brisk badger May 20, 2020, 10:55 AM

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looks pretty good IMO for the price/performance ratio

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it may not be as future as more expensive CPU's but you also don't jhave to spend much

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*as future proof

lament merlin May 20, 2020, 10:56 AM

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ok

#

ty

brisk badger May 20, 2020, 10:57 AM

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it depends a bit also what you want to do. For gaming, office it should be fine

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Myself is still using a CPU from 2015 and I can play most games maxed although if the game is not limited by the CPU

lament merlin May 20, 2020, 10:58 AM

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pretty sure the 3300x is being released tomorrow too

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may 21st

brisk badger May 20, 2020, 10:59 AM

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if it's sold for ~120 dollar, it seems like a good deal

lament merlin May 20, 2020, 10:59 AM

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yea its at 120 so I am hoping to get it before its out of stock

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how think fast does stuff like that sell?

brisk badger May 20, 2020, 11:00 AM

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you live in US? I don't know but probably it's going to have some people who buy I guess

lament merlin May 20, 2020, 11:00 AM

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yea

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I am going to try and get it early anyway

brisk badger May 20, 2020, 11:02 AM

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if I would today build a PC with price/performance in mind I would maybe also pick the 3300x

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4 cores doesn't make it very future proof but till a MAJORITY of games really utilize 4+ threads it's going to probably take another 10 years :p

lament merlin May 20, 2020, 11:03 AM

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I am probably just gonna play gtfo some fps and minecraft xD

abstract kite May 20, 2020, 12:18 PM

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dam the leaked ryzen 4th gen specs for a successor of 3900x looks dope... 16/32 and if its gonna come with a price of 500$ thats even more dope XD

jade ermine May 20, 2020, 2:12 PM

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@abstract kite source? Steve3

fleet canopy May 20, 2020, 2:16 PM

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Source: Fake chinese picture

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I'd just stay off spec leaks for now

#

Sure, we've kind of been getting some from NVIDIA but like

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There's still gonna be fake leaks

abstract kite May 20, 2020, 2:36 PM

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Idk gamer meld

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i guess

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i watch him

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altho his voice is triggering me

vapid crypt May 20, 2020, 2:42 PM

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Triggering? Like ASMR triggering? phaWesker

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I've only seen people in his comments enjoying his voice. phaSip

abstract kite May 20, 2020, 2:47 PM

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welp guess everything triggers me

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xD

jade ermine May 20, 2020, 2:53 PM

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📎 7b1aa18a8a15dd7a063c4d2d7892935e.png

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bitwit cmon bruh

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📎 PBO_3900X_R20.png

fleet canopy May 20, 2020, 2:54 PM

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Hm?

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That sounds

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Mmmm

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No.

#

I could understand the 10900K and 3900X

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But the 3900X v 7700K

vapid crypt May 20, 2020, 3:11 PM

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Well there its a single core test

fleet canopy May 20, 2020, 3:13 PM

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True

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I thought cinebench did multi core though

vapid crypt May 20, 2020, 3:14 PM

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Sure it benches both

lilac geyser May 20, 2020, 3:29 PM

#

phil: i know you got burned a bit with the 1600AF, but usually the launch/discontinue cycle is not that short

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that was kind of a special case anyway, kind of a holdover product until amd could release their lastest gen processors

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and possibly corona has caused them to shorten the lifecycle of that in favor of their newer products

fleet canopy May 20, 2020, 3:32 PM

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I wonder why 12nm for the 1600af

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They did 7nm, why not do 10nm for 1600

vapid crypt May 20, 2020, 3:32 PM

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They had it on hand from GloFlo

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They gotta use it somehow

fleet canopy May 20, 2020, 3:32 PM

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Ah

lilac geyser May 20, 2020, 3:35 PM

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anyway i could be wrong with the longer release cycle this time becasue zen3 is coming (soon?)

fleet canopy May 20, 2020, 3:36 PM

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Yeah, soon ish

lilac geyser May 20, 2020, 3:38 PM

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also the 1600AF might not be discontinued yet there might be a temporary supply shortage (?)

fleet canopy May 20, 2020, 3:38 PM

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Maybe

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They might do it on 10nm this time though, it’s not like they had 12nm left anymore it seems

vapid crypt May 20, 2020, 3:41 PM

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Could just be they haven't been able to ship much out recently

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And I don't think they own any 10nm wafers

fleet canopy May 20, 2020, 3:48 PM

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Yeah everyone's going for 3600 or waiting on 3100/3300X

glossy oracle May 20, 2020, 3:58 PM

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can't really blame them. The 3600 is sub $200 USD and I've found it at around $150 during discount season

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and it runs much better than the intel counterpart at that pricepoint

fleet canopy May 20, 2020, 3:59 PM

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It's more like 170$

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Sale, 140-150$

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3600X is probably what you might as well go for, 200$

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Sale will make it 160-180$

vapid crypt May 20, 2020, 4:15 PM

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Eh its not really any better, I'm not even sure if its better binned... maybe phaSheva

fleet canopy May 20, 2020, 4:17 PM

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True

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But if you can get it for lower than 200$, that's cool I guess

vapid crypt May 20, 2020, 4:17 PM

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So you know how the 3100 and 3300X are different by one having all cores on a single CCX, that shows an apparent difference in performance

#

If that were the case with some of the other parts that would be interesting

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Maybe it would be more so worth it for a 3800x had all cores on a single CCX, not that its bad or anything; just compared to the 3700x it isn't much better. The biggest difference is being better binned so it could run at better frequencies while maintaining lower voltages.

fleet canopy May 20, 2020, 10:36 PM

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They seemed to have dropped 10th gen 2 days ago ish?

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I forgot about it lol

vapid crypt May 20, 2020, 11:21 PM

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Yeah reviews coming out about it today

#

My impression of it. its really no better when they initially released coffee lake. Like it has that distinct difference in gaming compared to Zen 2... but then it sucks at other workloads by comparison. Legit you got the 3300X performing better in photoshop than the i5 which has 2 more cores and 4 more threads phaWesker

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That's just one workload, but that shouldn't even happen

fleet canopy May 20, 2020, 11:23 PM

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kek

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clocks go brrr

vapid crypt May 20, 2020, 11:24 PM

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This is an old meme, from like 10 years ago. Funny looking back on it

📎 intel-vs-amd_o_873261.png

fleet canopy May 20, 2020, 11:29 PM

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Funny how it really changed tbh

#

Intel is now doing more cores, hyperthreading, etc.

vapid crypt May 20, 2020, 11:31 PM

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Well they're only adding more cores to compete, a modern version of this meme would be flipped and have intel pushing clock speeds and heat phaWesker

fleet canopy May 20, 2020, 11:32 PM

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Hm

#

Well AMD isn't AMD anymore at least

#

Of course, more cores

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But much better manufacturing, etc.

#

It feels so weird pressing the left arrow

vapid crypt May 20, 2020, 11:33 PM

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AMD was making the same mistake Intel is making now, making up for inferior IPC by pushing clockspeeds up

fleet canopy May 20, 2020, 11:33 PM

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Yeah I remember

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From a video

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And got way too hot to handle

lament merlin May 21, 2020, 2:15 AM

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@fleet canopy you said the 3300x is coming out around june 8th?

vapid crypt May 21, 2020, 2:22 AM

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So that's what B&H said it would be available, I would say check the online retailers periodically to see when it will be available to ship

#

You could pre-order as soon as that's available as well

fleet canopy May 21, 2020, 2:23 AM

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Yeah

lament merlin May 21, 2020, 2:23 AM

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Because there are some other places saying may 21st

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tomorrow

vapid crypt May 21, 2020, 2:24 AM

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Okay, check tomorrow then

lament merlin May 21, 2020, 2:24 AM

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is it going to be a midnight release or something

vapid crypt May 21, 2020, 2:25 AM

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Uh probably not I'm not sure how that works anyway

#

You said you were gonna get the computer by July right?

lament merlin May 21, 2020, 2:25 AM

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well I was saying that because of all the parts counting the june 8th

#

still not sure though

vapid crypt May 21, 2020, 2:27 AM

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Well in any case, it might be worth waiting for the new B550 chipset to come out. Cause that will have guaranteed support for the last AM4 Ryzen processors. They're coming out in June

lament merlin May 21, 2020, 2:27 AM

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but still get the 3300x?

vapid crypt May 21, 2020, 2:27 AM

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Sure, as long as that works for what you want to do with it

lament merlin May 21, 2020, 2:27 AM

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yea

abstract kite May 21, 2020, 2:28 AM

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Whatever tickles your pickel

vapid crypt May 21, 2020, 2:28 AM

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Its solid entry level, and you could easily get a higher core count cpu later if necessary

lament merlin May 21, 2020, 2:28 AM

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ok ty

lament merlin May 21, 2020, 3:04 AM

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demonio could I get a link to the B550 chipset?

fleet canopy May 21, 2020, 3:05 AM

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https://www.amd.com/en/chipsets/b550

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Not yet out

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Expected around June/July

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I think

lament merlin May 21, 2020, 3:11 AM

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ok

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ty

vapid crypt May 21, 2020, 4:04 AM

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I read earlier they're out mid june

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Not sure how many will be available since there are a lot of board makers

lilac geyser May 21, 2020, 6:52 AM

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gamersnexus says B550 motherboards will be shipping july, it sounds like a bit of speculation there https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3582-amd-chipset-differences-b550-vs-x570-b450-x470-zen-3

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you can look at the chart showing the difference between that and B450 which are out today

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i'm not really sure how big of a deal that will be in the system you're planning to build, or if maybe its worth waiting for,

lament merlin May 21, 2020, 12:29 PM

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makes sense

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the ryzen 3 3300x and 3100 are supposed to release today at 2 am my time

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its 5:29 rn

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anyone know why?

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4 am est to 2 am mst can anyone help?

lilac geyser May 21, 2020, 2:52 PM

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phil: dont really know, maybe try signing up for a release notification https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/amd-ryzen-3-3300x

lilac geyser May 21, 2020, 6:00 PM

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I know we're moving in the wrong direction on price, but the Ryzen 5 3600 is available now, and it recently had a price drop from original price. still more than launch price of 3300x

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from $200 to $175

fleet canopy May 21, 2020, 6:04 PM

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Yeah

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It's either 1600AF, 3300X or 3600

lilac geyser May 21, 2020, 6:06 PM

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need to be careful, but what about the 3200G APU

fleet canopy May 21, 2020, 6:08 PM

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Mmm

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Aren't they fairly more expensive than their actual processing power because of an iGPU?

lilac geyser May 21, 2020, 6:09 PM

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its $99

fleet canopy May 21, 2020, 6:10 PM

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Might be the 3400G I'm thinking of then

lilac geyser May 21, 2020, 6:10 PM

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so i'm not 100% on all this, but it looks like the big downside is you only get x8 pci lanes from the cpu since they probably arent expecting you to use a gpu

fleet canopy May 21, 2020, 6:11 PM

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Yeah

lilac geyser May 21, 2020, 6:11 PM

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not that x8 would be a bottleneck with a budget gpu, but there might be someother reason to not do it

fleet canopy May 21, 2020, 6:12 PM

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Wouldn't ever recommend an APU unless not much of a gamer, just small

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Like LoL, some really ezpz to run games p much

vapid crypt May 21, 2020, 6:59 PM

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3200G is 4c/4t with the 3100 at the same price point and double the threads it kind of makes it obsolete unless you plan to rely on the igpu

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I suppose a League machine wouldn't be out of the question in that case phaWesker

fleet canopy May 21, 2020, 7:00 PM

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Unless you get a GPU, you pretty much play any light games

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Not saying you can't try moderate/heavy ish games, but it's a joke if you plan to try to hit 45-60FPS on a kind of high graphics setting

vapid crypt May 21, 2020, 7:04 PM

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720 - 900p medium settings

fleet canopy May 21, 2020, 7:04 PM

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Yeah something like that ig

kindred nova May 22, 2020, 12:09 AM

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Hey everyone, so I'm planning on upgrading my ram and I was wondering whether its worth getting an extra 2 x 8 GB of lower tier ram (OLOy brand) to my existing 2 x 8 set, or if I should buy a more high tier 2 x 8 Gb set to replace my current one?
So it would be a difference between 32GB OLOy DDR4 at roughly 1750 MHz, or 16GB Corsair Vengeance at roughly 3000 MHz, thanks!

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 12:11 AM

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Mmm

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Well you're kind of vague

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But I see you have below 2000MHz DDR4, which is massively slow. It's best to get 3000-3600MHz at CAS16 for DDR4 now, which is good for Intel and AMD processors. 16GB is the max necessity you'll need, 32GB is kind of a big number but that's alright to have it

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What's your motherboard as well?

kindred nova May 22, 2020, 12:13 AM

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I have a b450 MSI gaming plus

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I know that below 2000 is a bit slow, which is why I was considering upping to a corsair vengeance, but I wasn't sure how much of an impact it would make vs. how much of an impact an extra 16 Gb would make

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 12:14 AM

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The difference with 16 vs 32GB really depends what you do

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If you're just gaming, 16GB 3200MHz at CAS16 is perfect

kindred nova May 22, 2020, 12:15 AM

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what about game design? I do that as a hobby and it seems very ram intensive

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 12:16 AM

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A quick search, seems like 16GB is still perfect enough

kindred nova May 22, 2020, 12:16 AM

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Okay, so I'll probably go for the corsair vengeance, thanks!

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 12:16 AM

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"If its a mobile game then 8 gb will probably be ok.

16 will handle most games you want to make.

32+ is nice for when you need to load multiple levels at once in the editor. I’d had a couple of extremely large world projects and I’d load 10–15 levels at once and quickly pass the 16 gig mark."

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You're welcome

kindred nova May 22, 2020, 12:17 AM

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Yeah, I'm not really doing any huge multi-level projects, nor do I plan to

lost kiln May 22, 2020, 12:24 AM

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Welp got all my PC upgrades done only to find out I had one DOA stick of ram lol

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 12:25 AM

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F

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return

lost kiln May 22, 2020, 12:26 AM

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First run into GSkill wasn’t the best start but customer service helps. I would if they had anymore of the ram for the price I ended up paying. Helps I’m a micro center card holder cuz they had a sale normal price at 218 and sale price of 156. Then I used my point/card and they became 125 per set (For GSkill trident Z royal 3600mhz 8GBx2 2 sets)

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I ended up buying their last 2 sets of ram to boot

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 12:27 AM

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What made it uhh

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218?

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Seems quite expensive unless it's lower than CAS16

lost kiln May 22, 2020, 12:28 AM

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No idea tbh, but that was the listed price from GSkill and micro center. Allow me to get the box

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fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 12:30 AM

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GWmythicalThonkCool

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OOoohhhh

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I see now

lost kiln May 22, 2020, 12:30 AM

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That’s all that’s on the box besides the price tag lol

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 12:30 AM

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4x8GB?

lost kiln May 22, 2020, 12:31 AM

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No 2 8GBx2 sets

lilac geyser May 22, 2020, 12:31 AM

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man you're going to have to check some benchmarks i think

lost kiln May 22, 2020, 12:31 AM

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My one dead stick of ram lol

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fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 12:32 AM

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Mm, might be why it's a little considerably more expensive?

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I've seen those at 2x8GB 3200MHz CAS16 kits for like 100$

lilac geyser May 22, 2020, 12:33 AM

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you're going to need to make sure your servants are wearing cloth gloves when you tell them to install it

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dont want them getting fingerprints on it

lost kiln May 22, 2020, 12:34 AM

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Heh, I have gotten gloves for my model kits so that should do lol

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But other wise my upgrades were successful. Jumped from I5 8400 to I9 9900k (Video editing and processing) and a 2080 Super

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 12:35 AM

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Whaaat

lilac geyser May 22, 2020, 12:35 AM

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make them wear the gloves but be sure to point out how they are doing it wrong, dont want them getting too complacent

lost kiln May 22, 2020, 12:35 AM

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Lol

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 12:35 AM

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Couldn't afford a 2080 Teee Eye???

lost kiln May 22, 2020, 12:36 AM

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Ya no

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 12:36 AM

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kek

lost kiln May 22, 2020, 12:36 AM

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2080 super was also on sale for 550 so I said eh go for it

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Better than my old micro 1060 at least lol

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 12:38 AM

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Hah, nice.

lost kiln May 22, 2020, 12:40 AM

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https://www.microcenter.com/product/611467/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-2080-super-windforce-overclocked-triple-fan-8gb-gddr6-pcie-30-graphics-card

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Should be good lol

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 12:41 AM

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Nice lol

lost kiln May 22, 2020, 12:42 AM

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Now let’s see that fog FX in GTFO!

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 12:43 AM

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Hah

proper wren May 22, 2020, 2:05 AM

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It seems to me I have to get myself a 2-4tb wd black

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 2:06 AM

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Oh?

proper wren May 22, 2020, 2:06 AM

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or pull one off the shelf because I'm running out of space now

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 2:06 AM

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Well I guess I can't pressure you to get rid of some of the hentai you keep

proper wren May 22, 2020, 2:07 AM

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📎 hmm.png

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 2:07 AM

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Wack

proper wren May 22, 2020, 2:07 AM

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seagate 2tb green 10 years old is the trash bin lol

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 2:08 AM

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lmao

proper wren May 22, 2020, 2:08 AM

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7200rpm but I dont trust it anymore

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 2:09 AM

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GWworkshopAkaShrug

lament merlin May 22, 2020, 2:58 AM

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pre ordered the 3300x pog

lilac geyser May 22, 2020, 3:18 AM

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booya

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whats your partslist agian?

lament merlin May 22, 2020, 3:33 AM

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oh

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1 sec

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/y3rmp8

proper wren May 22, 2020, 3:53 AM

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are chu sure on the A400

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That SSD is Dramless and not recommended if you're using it for longevity.

lilac geyser May 22, 2020, 3:56 AM

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eeek if that's true

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its his budget build though

proper wren May 22, 2020, 3:56 AM

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I work in tech la

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if is budget then is fine

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 3:57 AM

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Eh

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Just for OS it should be fine

proper wren May 22, 2020, 3:58 AM

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https://www.amazon.ca/ADATA-Ultimate-Su800-Internal-ASU800SS-256GT-C/dp/B01K8A2A0E 54.99 in CAD

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around $39-40 in USD

lilac geyser May 22, 2020, 3:59 AM

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i suspect that a dram ssd can be had in the same vicinity of price

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 4:00 AM

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It seems that's a DRAM

proper wren May 22, 2020, 4:00 AM

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$5 difference

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 4:00 AM

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less

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I could be wrong, but I remember that brand didn't really always have DRAM?

proper wren May 22, 2020, 4:00 AM

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it depends on what series

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SU650 and under dont have dram

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su800s do

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o3o Silicon power 512gb is going $54 with SLC

lilac geyser May 22, 2020, 4:03 AM

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i'm for putting fast ssds in a budget build since its the most economical way to imperformance at that price range

proper wren May 22, 2020, 4:03 AM

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price + performance + features uwu

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 4:03 AM

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Well for like 45$

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WD Blue 250GB SSD

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/NhgzK8/western-digital-blue-250gb-25-solid-state-drive-wds250g2b0a

lilac geyser May 22, 2020, 4:04 AM

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did you buy everything yet phil?

proper wren May 22, 2020, 4:04 AM

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tier 2 solid choice

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 4:05 AM

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@lament merlin Have you gotten anything other than the 3300X yet?

proper wren May 22, 2020, 4:05 AM

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I have to put up 10900k's in the shelves tmrw

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 4:05 AM

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kek

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Poor shintel fans

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"My 5.3GHz!!!!"

proper wren May 22, 2020, 4:05 AM

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It's pretty good, but the value is just a big no no

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 4:06 AM

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Good for gaming

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Bad for everything else

proper wren May 22, 2020, 4:06 AM

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yep

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 4:06 AM

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AMD is still a solid pick anyways

proper wren May 22, 2020, 4:06 AM

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7nm amd

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vs 14nm

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 4:06 AM

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Kind of hoping they kind of try the gaming perf side of CPUs

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It's perfectly fine if they never really do that, but it'd be a nice bonus plus kind of a boost for their sales in a way

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But I can understand if both can't really be attained at such a time

proper wren May 22, 2020, 4:08 AM

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waiting for Epyc cpus to get better drivers

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Waiting for AMD to fix their Bios issues

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 4:10 AM

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AMD = Epic at achieving shit, Shit at drivers
Intel = Epic at gayming and drivers, shit at everything else

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They might just do 10nm next lineup tbh

proper wren May 22, 2020, 4:11 AM

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they can't lol

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They have to wait till 12th gen prob

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 4:11 AM

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How come?

lament merlin May 22, 2020, 4:11 AM

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oh sorry I went to do something

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no @fleet canopy I didnt get anything else

proper wren May 22, 2020, 4:12 AM

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most likely 11th gen needs to be compactible with 10th because of bios and hardware savings

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 4:12 AM

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True

proper wren May 22, 2020, 4:12 AM

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switching immediately to a different socket means you lose marketing shares by a ton

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 4:12 AM

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But they've got to figure out how to manage not to overheat that shit 14nm manufacture that's too outdated at this point

proper wren May 22, 2020, 4:13 AM

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Just pull an AMD and put half the effort in research lol

lilac geyser May 22, 2020, 4:13 AM

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is there a budget oriented b450?

proper wren May 22, 2020, 4:13 AM

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asrock

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 4:13 AM

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AssRocks

proper wren May 22, 2020, 4:13 AM

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ASUS Prime b450M

lilac geyser May 22, 2020, 4:14 AM

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is b450 the way to go for 3300x anyhow?

proper wren May 22, 2020, 4:14 AM

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Aorus B450M

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yes

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 4:14 AM

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I'm told "Asrock suck lol" yet I've picked an AsRock for my next build

proper wren May 22, 2020, 4:14 AM

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Asrock sucks at rma

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 4:14 AM

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Taichi

proper wren May 22, 2020, 4:14 AM

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Taichi is fine

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 4:14 AM

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I only ever have to hope what the people say about bios isn't true

lament merlin May 22, 2020, 4:15 AM

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so is a b450 and the 3300x good or?

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 4:15 AM

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Like it doesn't always save bios settings

proper wren May 22, 2020, 4:15 AM

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is just their lower end boards if you do anything intensive

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 4:15 AM

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yeah b450 3300X epic

lament merlin May 22, 2020, 4:15 AM

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ok

proper wren May 22, 2020, 4:15 AM

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B450 and 3300x is fine

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The partspick is fine

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Just be aware of the ssd

lament merlin May 22, 2020, 4:15 AM

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?

proper wren May 22, 2020, 4:15 AM

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kingston A400 no dram

lilac geyser May 22, 2020, 4:15 AM

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well we talked about it a little above

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but to summarize, what he said...

lament merlin May 22, 2020, 4:15 AM

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so no kingston?

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or what

proper wren May 22, 2020, 4:16 AM

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https://www.amazon.ca/ADATA-Ultimate-Su800-Internal-ASU800SS-256GT-C/dp/B01K8A2A0E

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 4:16 AM

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what about wd blue I list?

proper wren May 22, 2020, 4:16 AM

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or the wd blue 250gb

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 4:16 AM

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Yeah

abstract kite May 22, 2020, 4:16 AM

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Kingstone sells pretty mediocre products from my experience.

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 4:16 AM

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They're not bad products really

lament merlin May 22, 2020, 4:16 AM

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so switch the kingston out with the wd blue 250gb ?

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 4:16 AM

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It's better than HDD for boot kek

lilac geyser May 22, 2020, 4:16 AM

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but it wasnt really about kingston, it was about how that ssd has no dram cache

proper wren May 22, 2020, 4:17 AM

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omg the SN550 went up in price by $20

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 4:17 AM

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f

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@lament merlin Yeah go with a WD blue 250GB

lament merlin May 22, 2020, 4:17 AM

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ok

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 4:17 AM

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DRAM makes it much faster

lilac geyser May 22, 2020, 4:17 AM

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dram cache is a small storage area on that hard drive that is realllllly fast and makes the whole ssd feel faster

proper wren May 22, 2020, 4:17 AM

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D-ram, SLC, and 3d Nand

lilac geyser May 22, 2020, 4:17 AM

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the hard drive manages it all for you

proper wren May 22, 2020, 4:18 AM

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Main focus is Dram

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 4:18 AM

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Not much sure of the differences really

lament merlin May 22, 2020, 4:18 AM

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there is so many lmao I looked up wd blue 250 and there is like a full page what one xD

proper wren May 22, 2020, 4:18 AM

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https://ssd.userbenchmark.com/Compare/WD-Blue-250GB-vs-Adata-Ultimate-SU800-256GB/m191455vs3912

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oof

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 4:18 AM

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No.

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Bad.

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Make a rule that says "UserBenchmark can go fuck itself"

proper wren May 22, 2020, 4:19 AM

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userbenchmark are intel fanboys

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 4:19 AM

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lol ye

proper wren May 22, 2020, 4:19 AM

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https://pangoly.com/en/compare/ssd/western-digital-wds250g2b0a-vs-adata-su800-256gb-3d-nand

abstract kite May 22, 2020, 4:19 AM

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Best inflated numbers

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 4:19 AM

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If they aren't good about anything, they shall be yeet

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Pretty wack

lament merlin May 22, 2020, 4:19 AM

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does it matter which wd blue 250? there is so many xD

proper wren May 22, 2020, 4:19 AM

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su800 has an ssd controller but I doubt he would use it

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 4:19 AM

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But yeah, go with the ADATA

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hbQG3C/adata-xpg-sx850-256gb-25-solid-state-drive-ssd-sx850-256g

abstract kite May 22, 2020, 4:20 AM

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Sounds like a walker from Star wars ngl

lament merlin May 22, 2020, 4:20 AM

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ok ty

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 4:20 AM

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How about this?

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I haven't looked into this one

lament merlin May 22, 2020, 4:21 AM

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so this good? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

proper wren May 22, 2020, 4:21 AM

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xpg is previous gen of su800 but still works well

lilac geyser May 22, 2020, 4:21 AM

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no, that wont run

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XD

proper wren May 22, 2020, 4:21 AM

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Phil what games are you playing

lilac geyser May 22, 2020, 4:21 AM

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at phil

proper wren May 22, 2020, 4:22 AM

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What monitor are you planning to use? 1080P 1440? 4K?

lament merlin May 22, 2020, 4:22 AM

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gtfo and some probably some fps

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 4:22 AM

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Didn't even see list

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Just linked the link to your list thing

proper wren May 22, 2020, 4:22 AM

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Do you do anything that requires editing encoding, programs, etc

lilac geyser May 22, 2020, 4:22 AM

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yeah the link was not complete

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 4:22 AM

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It's like this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sF8TwP

lament merlin May 22, 2020, 4:22 AM

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oops xD

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XgJmp8

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wdym by that poddy?

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 4:23 AM

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He's just gamer

lament merlin May 22, 2020, 4:23 AM

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^

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 4:23 AM

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Not really getting into workstation stuff

proper wren May 22, 2020, 4:23 AM

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Yeah that build is fine then lol

lament merlin May 22, 2020, 4:23 AM

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ok ty guys

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 4:23 AM

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You're welcome

proper wren May 22, 2020, 4:23 AM

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Watch a youtube video on how to build before doing it

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uwu

lilac geyser May 22, 2020, 4:24 AM

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does that adata have dram?

lament merlin May 22, 2020, 4:24 AM

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ik

proper wren May 22, 2020, 4:24 AM

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yes

lilac geyser May 22, 2020, 4:24 AM

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amazon says yes it seems

proper wren May 22, 2020, 4:24 AM

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It does

lament merlin May 22, 2020, 4:25 AM

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all ik about is how to put the card into the motherboard and to NOT break the pins and hold it by the sides

proper wren May 22, 2020, 4:25 AM

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I still prefer su800 though

lament merlin May 22, 2020, 4:25 AM

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but yes I will watch a yt vid before building

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for what?

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 4:25 AM

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Video on youtube teacghes a lot

lament merlin May 22, 2020, 4:26 AM

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su800 for ssd? instead of ADATA

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 4:26 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHY6ygHj80c Part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5jFXl0GZJo Part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXwMbmhCQuY Part 3

proper wren May 22, 2020, 4:26 AM

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same company, just that su800 is one year step up with slightly better performance

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 4:26 AM

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How to build a PC

lament merlin May 22, 2020, 4:26 AM

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ok ty

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 4:26 AM

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The Goddamn Detailed Edition

lament merlin May 22, 2020, 4:26 AM

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I am gonna copy paste those

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@proper wren what capacity will work?

proper wren May 22, 2020, 4:29 AM

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Realization su800 sold out in amazon

lament merlin May 22, 2020, 4:30 AM

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so stick with the ADATA?

proper wren May 22, 2020, 4:31 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/adata-ultimate-su800-256gb/p/N82E16820215028?Description=adata su800&cm_re=adata_su800-_-20-215-028-_-Product It's not nvme but it will work

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 4:31 AM

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NVME is meh

proper wren May 22, 2020, 4:31 AM

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yep

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 4:31 AM

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But this is Sata

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Not PCIE either

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Can get PCIE for literally no price increase

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Or like 2$ maybe but it's no difference in price

lament merlin May 22, 2020, 4:32 AM

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so this ? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kFsnhg

proper wren May 22, 2020, 4:32 AM

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compiling ssds from the states in my head

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yes

lament merlin May 22, 2020, 4:32 AM

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ok

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I think imma go to bed

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ty guys for all the help

lilac geyser May 22, 2020, 4:33 AM

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yeah that one is a dram

proper wren May 22, 2020, 4:33 AM

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ye

lilac geyser May 22, 2020, 4:33 AM

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cya

proper wren May 22, 2020, 4:33 AM

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I got the death stare from my manager last week lol

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 4:33 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/f4yV3C/sabrent-256-gb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-sb-rocket-256

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/w27v6h/western-digital-blue-250gb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-wds250g2b0b

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Not WD

proper wren May 22, 2020, 4:33 AM

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I said I was gonna get TG GX1 for my htpc

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 4:33 AM

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But the Sabrent is PCIe

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~~I forgot what the price on that 2.5" was ~~

proper wren May 22, 2020, 4:34 AM

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Sabrent 12 yr old company

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 4:34 AM

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Doesn't really seem to matter if they do good

proper wren May 22, 2020, 4:34 AM

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uwu they work with Acronis True image thats fine with me

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wd blue 250gb can burn

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I would only put that in a laptop that doesnt support nvme or just office work purposes

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Mainly the cost and how it doesnt have 3d Nand

lilac geyser May 22, 2020, 4:39 AM

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does budget nvme really perform faster than budget sata?

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 4:40 AM

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If you’ve seen Linus video on sata vs PCie vs NVME

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NVME faster with files, no fun in games

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So NVME works in this case, not gonna fit a game because MW liberating drive space

proper wren May 22, 2020, 4:41 AM

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longevity

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meanwhile somewhere far away with GTA5 loading times lol

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 4:43 AM

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Kek

proper wren May 22, 2020, 4:46 AM

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Apparently civ is free on epic games lol nope

fleet canopy May 22, 2020, 4:48 AM

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Apparently epic games lol nope

jade ermine May 22, 2020, 5:41 AM

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built system for friend today😁
7700K delid, vrm+cpu blocks

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Over 20C drop after delid, Really potent stuff

rapid plume May 22, 2020, 6:31 AM

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Noice!

dense wasp May 22, 2020, 7:00 AM

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nice

rapid plume May 22, 2020, 7:06 AM

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Hey Ludvig! Rig running cool still?

dense wasp May 22, 2020, 7:16 AM

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yah

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cool enough for sure

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around 60c in load

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case is a bit noisy with all the fans, since top radiator, I had to remove the glass panel there and change it to an open one

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which obviously takes away from the noise isolation

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with... 7 fans total, it's noisy as heck

rapid plume May 22, 2020, 7:21 AM

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What size fans? I know some really good quiet ones in 140mm, they are just ugly lol

dense wasp May 22, 2020, 7:41 AM

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12&14

jade ermine May 22, 2020, 7:48 AM

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@dense wasp m'lord, could you show how your sexy system looks like?

dense wasp May 22, 2020, 7:48 AM

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think I have a picture I sent here before

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1 sec

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not the best picture, but you get the gist of it

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it's taken with a fisheye so the 2080ti looks tiny

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haha

rapid plume May 22, 2020, 7:52 AM

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Is there only 1 140mm?

jade ermine May 22, 2020, 7:53 AM

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Yeah i probably missed that one. Sweet rig!

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Look's like we got same mobo huehue. Or idk is that e or f gaming but close enough shit2

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dense wasp May 22, 2020, 7:58 AM

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It's the F gaming

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4x 140mm, 3x120mm @rapid plume 🙂

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I am a bit tempted to switch the cooling to a Noctua DH15

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I have a couple of them in a box behind me..

rapid plume May 22, 2020, 8:00 AM

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What don’t you have by you or at the office? XD

dense wasp May 22, 2020, 8:02 AM

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the DH15 I got delivered here

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haha

rapid plume May 22, 2020, 8:02 AM

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Lol

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CQXfrH/akasa-case-fan-akfn073

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This is one of the best 140, tho not meant for rads, so if you use the DH15 this would be good to use

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/cs9KHx/akasa-case-fan-akfn063

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This is the one you’d use for rads and tight spaces, normal 140 size

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/s7mLrH/akasa-case-fan-akfn059

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And lastly a decent 120, I forget what’s the best but this is a good one I remember looking into

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Yes they ugly as sin but my goal isn’t pretty for work PCs, it’s quietness and performance, and these have both

proper wren May 22, 2020, 8:16 AM

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silently judges everyone at the tech station

dense wasp May 22, 2020, 8:28 AM

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If I'd use the DH15

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I'd say the Noctua fans are also top of the line in terms of how silent they are

rapid plume May 22, 2020, 8:29 AM

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What about CFM tho?

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I know they are good but I don’t know the specs of what comes with it

proper wren May 22, 2020, 8:50 AM

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I'd say the Noctua fans are also top of the line in terms of how silent they are
@dense wasp I would stick to the DH15/fans if you really want to go for the silent performance. Is that a fractal celsius S360 as your aio?

dense wasp May 22, 2020, 8:51 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX7azFtJDT8

YouTube

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I guess I could just change the radiator fans to the noctua ones

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Yeah Poddy, it's the Celsius s36

proper wren May 22, 2020, 8:52 AM

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switch the fans lol

dense wasp May 22, 2020, 8:52 AM

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haha

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I hadn't gotten the Noctua stuff when I installed it 😉

rapid plume May 22, 2020, 8:52 AM

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It will do ya good

proper wren May 22, 2020, 8:52 AM

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I know fractal fans are reliable, but the default fans they come with are mid range performance

dense wasp May 22, 2020, 8:53 AM

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Still got the 140mm case fans, but they aren't doing as much noise as the radiator fans

proper wren May 22, 2020, 8:55 AM

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As long as they aren't EVGA 120-140mms

dense wasp May 22, 2020, 8:55 AM

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it's the default fans from https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/define/define-s2-vision-rgb/rgb/

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Prisma AL-14 PWM ARGB I guess they call them

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Current setup btw, had to switch to a table, old shelf setup couldn’t hold the new screen ..

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Still got a small bit of cable stuff to do

proper wren May 22, 2020, 8:58 AM

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Very nice set up though