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fleet canopy May 10, 2020, 4:13 AM

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Seems great just for air cooling or having an AIO

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Oof, not much to give space for it

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Back side of case don't support 120mm

proper wren May 10, 2020, 4:39 AM

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570x has decent airflow but a pain

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New case line ups arent coming yeeeeet

fleet canopy May 10, 2020, 4:50 AM

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Now if only the X570 boards had some in white

proper wren May 10, 2020, 4:52 AM

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Prime only

fleet canopy May 10, 2020, 4:53 AM

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??

proper wren May 10, 2020, 4:53 AM

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Or Asrock Aqua $1000

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And astock legends

fleet canopy May 10, 2020, 4:53 AM

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Oh yeah they're way more expensive, yeah?

torn ferry May 10, 2020, 5:50 AM

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I assume it's impossible to paint a motherboard?

fleet canopy May 10, 2020, 5:50 AM

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Ehhh

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I wouldn't attempt to do that

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Well you can

torn ferry May 10, 2020, 5:53 AM

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I just watched a tutorial, but it's basically covering every component with masking tape before spraying the paint on.

fleet canopy May 10, 2020, 5:55 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIOU7iwLWrE

velvet vault May 10, 2020, 11:49 AM

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I just watched that video myself. Interesting video, well worth a watch. Actually spraying my motherboard. No chance.

torn ferry May 10, 2020, 3:17 PM

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I would rather have someone who knows what they're doing to do it for me.

fleet canopy May 10, 2020, 5:31 PM

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Any recommendations for an X570 board that has some white on it? Like black/white if not mostly white. Can do 3200MHz CAS14 or close to that.

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I'm kind of looking at the ASRock X570 Taichi, but not sure how it is

vapid crypt May 10, 2020, 5:43 PM

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The taichi is one of the best boards I would say

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Though I don't see any white on that so phaSip

proper wren May 10, 2020, 5:45 PM

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The amount of stock we have now is kind of lowww

fleet canopy May 10, 2020, 6:11 PM

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Has some white, so it's nice

proper wren May 10, 2020, 6:18 PM

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The ssds

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Went up in price so much

fleet canopy May 10, 2020, 6:18 PM

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lol

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How much?

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From GamersNexus, he says that the bios on it is not really great

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Clunky, not as good as other bios in organization, things that should work, doesn't

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From user reviews, however, is that it's pretty good

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BIOs seems to work for them

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One mention about chip near the GPU...

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"There is one flaw with the Taichi that knocked off two whole stars for me - the Southbridge chipset cooling solution on the board. The chipset fan sits directly behind the GPU in the top PCIe slot. Not only is this choking the airflow to the chip a ton, but the GPU is blowing it's warm exhaust directly at the chipset. What's more.... the fan assembly is very poorly designed. It sits super far away from the chipset itself with a THICK thermal pad between the two. The chipset is by FAR the hottest thing in the case. Going all the way up to 80 degrees under load. Not cool! I did end up cooling the chipset significantly after some pretty heavy modding of the chipset fan & heatsink internals. It took me a few tries though. Here's an image album of the process:"

eternal cairn May 10, 2020, 6:38 PM

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My motherboard has that same issue. I fixed it by moving my GPU to the bottom PCIE slot, but it's still a pretty bad design flaw.

fleet canopy May 10, 2020, 6:38 PM

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Oof, hopefully it's still PCIE 16x

eternal cairn May 10, 2020, 6:38 PM

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It is.

fleet canopy May 10, 2020, 6:39 PM

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I'm getting the Lian Li Dynamic

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Probably

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I have two different list, the first list I made quite a while back, with a Mesh C

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Then this one is Lian Li, and I felt like I wanted to have a white ish build

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Currently something like this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/T4Zqyk

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Some are just placeholders, like the GPU

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And the CPU as well

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Cause the Ryzen 4000 series is coming out soon anyways

abstract kite May 10, 2020, 6:55 PM

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ok so is it worth buying DDR4 then ....

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i would like to trans from 2133 mhz to 3600mhz

fleet canopy May 10, 2020, 6:56 PM

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Yeah it is

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DDR5 isn't coming out in uhh

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Forever when it becomes actually good

abstract kite May 10, 2020, 6:57 PM

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ok so next up i need to get me that NVME SSD that has 500 gb + 32 gb ddr4 3600mhz + 3080

lilac geyser May 10, 2020, 6:57 PM

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that chipset fan is a bugger

fleet canopy May 10, 2020, 6:57 PM

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3600MHz CAS19 kek

abstract kite May 10, 2020, 6:58 PM

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GWcorbinTopKek

fleet canopy May 10, 2020, 7:06 PM

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I don't think I've ever seen the pins have RGB before https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ffCFf7/super-flower-leadex-iii-argb-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-sf-850f14rg

merry bay May 10, 2020, 7:08 PM

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Wire cubby in cases suddenly invalidated? Thonk

proper wren May 10, 2020, 7:09 PM

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fleet canopy May 10, 2020, 7:09 PM

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What currency?

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Still USD?

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From what I see, too damn overpriced

proper wren May 10, 2020, 7:14 PM

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Cad

fleet canopy May 10, 2020, 7:15 PM

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Ah

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So how much more expensive is it?

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Like 1000$ more? Or is that too much

proper wren May 10, 2020, 7:17 PM

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1800 more? Lol

fleet canopy May 10, 2020, 7:17 PM

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Oof

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So I realized a few minutes ago that you don't really see the PSU unless you looked at the back of the Lian Li. So now I'm kind of wondering how it is to get white cablemods for my PSU

proper wren May 10, 2020, 7:25 PM

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Massive delays on cablemodds

fleet canopy May 10, 2020, 7:26 PM

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Oof

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Well I just wanted to be sure if it were a good idea to get cables from them really

vapid crypt May 10, 2020, 8:33 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TblKjOZmsI Trying to cool a 3950X with another cpu phaWesker

fleet canopy May 10, 2020, 9:55 PM

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I almost forgot about the mention of DRAM when I saw Linus' video about guys figuring out which PC had SATA, NVME or PCIe 4.0

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Is it in all the SSDs Samsung offers or no?

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A QVO one, at least

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And plus, other SSDs are only like 20$ ish lower than the QVO SSD I'm thinking of getting

strange sapphire May 10, 2020, 9:59 PM

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We have any Python programmers that are familar with Pandas, Numpy, etc. that could help me for a few minutes?

fleet canopy May 10, 2020, 10:00 PM

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How To Be Master Programmer
Step One: Get in some problem or thing that makes you have question
Step Two: Use browser to find solution/answer

strange sapphire May 10, 2020, 10:01 PM

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^^^

fleet canopy May 10, 2020, 11:07 PM

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Should I have the fans set up like this?

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eternal cairn May 10, 2020, 11:30 PM

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Ideally, yes, but I don't see any opening for the front fans to draw air from on that case.

fleet canopy May 10, 2020, 11:31 PM

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The big intake?

eternal cairn May 10, 2020, 11:31 PM

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Yes.

fleet canopy May 10, 2020, 11:31 PM

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eternal cairn May 10, 2020, 11:31 PM

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It looks like it's just a glass panel.

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Ohhh, you meant the side front.

fleet canopy May 10, 2020, 11:31 PM

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Yeah

eternal cairn May 10, 2020, 11:31 PM

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Yeah, that could work.

fleet canopy May 10, 2020, 11:32 PM

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Alright, probably look into a 360mm lmfao

eternal cairn May 10, 2020, 11:32 PM

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And then maybe another exhaust fan on the back.

fleet canopy May 10, 2020, 11:32 PM

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The back is too small

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I could fit an 80mm I think, but eh

eternal cairn May 10, 2020, 11:33 PM

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Eh, it's better than nothing.

fleet canopy May 10, 2020, 11:33 PM

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There's a video with that, dude didn't put any fans in the back like ever

eternal cairn May 10, 2020, 11:34 PM

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How big is the AIO radiator?

fleet canopy May 10, 2020, 11:34 PM

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The one I'm picking is 240mm, but it can fit in a 360mm radiator

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I'm trying to go with a white theme build however

eternal cairn May 10, 2020, 11:35 PM

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Forget what I said, then. Get another fan to put on the top.

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Actually...

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Put the radiator on the side.

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If you're getting an AIO that supports it.

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And then put exhaust on the top and intake on bottom.

fleet canopy May 10, 2020, 11:37 PM

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Can check this out if you want https://www.lian-li.com/pc-o11-dynamic/

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But I've heard user reviews where it's an ass to fit a 360mm radiator anywhere else other than that side

eternal cairn May 10, 2020, 11:39 PM

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Yeah, it looks like the side was also made for a radiator.

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Having intake fans on bottom and exhaust on top will better suit your airflow and the radiator can just stay on the side since it's most likely got intake fans.

fleet canopy May 10, 2020, 11:41 PM

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Yeah

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Dunno if I should do 240, probably 280, or even 360mm for a radiator that's just white

eternal cairn May 10, 2020, 11:43 PM

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The larger, the better.

fleet canopy May 10, 2020, 11:43 PM

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Hm

eternal cairn May 10, 2020, 11:43 PM

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It looks like the side fits 3x120mm fans.

fleet canopy May 10, 2020, 11:43 PM

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Yeah

eternal cairn May 10, 2020, 11:43 PM

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If you can, go 360.

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120x 360mm / 120x 240mm / 140x 280mm is what it says in the specs.

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But why does it have two side filters?

fleet canopy May 10, 2020, 11:44 PM

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Hm?

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A second side filter?

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Oh I see it now

eternal cairn May 10, 2020, 11:45 PM

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Yeah, it shows two in the link you sent and it says it's got 2 in the specs.

fleet canopy May 10, 2020, 11:45 PM

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PSU

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And a little bit of fans I think?

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But the PSU goes into the back

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Literally invisible unless you looked to the back

eternal cairn May 10, 2020, 11:46 PM

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I don't see the point in having fans back where the PSU goes. There's not much air flow in the side of the case where cable management is.

fleet canopy May 10, 2020, 11:46 PM

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Maybe just a little headroom I guess

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Oh yeah it has dual PSU capability

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For useless fucking reasons idk really

eternal cairn May 10, 2020, 11:47 PM

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Oh, that might be why.

fleet canopy May 10, 2020, 11:47 PM

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Yeah

eternal cairn May 10, 2020, 11:47 PM

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But yeah, it is pretty useless.

fleet canopy May 10, 2020, 11:47 PM

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Dunno how you'll use a 2nd PC in a PC that fits only 1 PC

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lol

eternal cairn May 10, 2020, 11:47 PM

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I think you can just screw on something else in place of the extra side filter.

fleet canopy May 10, 2020, 11:48 PM

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Unless maybe you use one of those double CPU socket motherboards

eternal cairn May 10, 2020, 11:48 PM

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I mean, you can have two PSUs for only one PC.

fleet canopy May 10, 2020, 11:48 PM

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Hm

eternal cairn May 10, 2020, 11:48 PM

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Only reason I can think of for that is if you're overclocking everything past the brink of your return warranty.

fleet canopy May 10, 2020, 11:48 PM

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Yeah you're not wrong, could be used for custom watercooling and not having it affect the main PSU for the GPU/CPU/rest other parts aside from any cooling

eternal cairn May 10, 2020, 11:49 PM

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But that space is so small though.

fleet canopy May 10, 2020, 11:49 PM

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GWworkshopAkaShrug

eternal cairn May 10, 2020, 11:50 PM

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Oh, it's also hard drive storage.

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fleet canopy May 10, 2020, 11:51 PM

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Ah, neat

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Dunno how I'll ever get 6 drives or even use that much

eternal cairn May 10, 2020, 11:51 PM

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Yeah, it's nice having those in the back rather than the front, which it can do.

fleet canopy May 10, 2020, 11:52 PM

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Still sticking to a single NVME 500GB M.2, and a single 2TB 2.5" SSD

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Perhaps I'll use a second 2.5", but I don't wanna do that

eternal cairn May 10, 2020, 11:52 PM

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Just get a HDD for media or non-game related stuff.

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If you end up needing a 3rd drive, that is.

fleet canopy May 10, 2020, 11:53 PM

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True

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I'll throw in a 2TB HDD for dumb shit

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Or 4TB, depending

eternal cairn May 10, 2020, 11:54 PM

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What do you plan on doing with that kind of storage?

fleet canopy May 10, 2020, 11:55 PM

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500GB M.2 is just boot, and general media since that doesn't take up so much space usually

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2TB 2.5" for games mainly and shit

eternal cairn May 10, 2020, 11:56 PM

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You might be set for that. I, on the other hand, might need a third drive just for random shit I download but don't want to delete because I'm too lazy to sort through all of those files and in case I need them in the future.

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Oh! Get a backup drive.

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You're probably not gonna need a 3rd drive anyway, but if you're fine with it, just get a 4TB backup drive.

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 12:06 AM

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Hm

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Wonder how I can set that up, but sounds good enough

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Hm, a WD Red as backup?

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Even though it's a NAS

eternal cairn May 11, 2020, 12:07 AM

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I have a Seagate Backup Plus drive and it has software with it. The only problem is that you can't limit the speed at which it backs everything up, so it slows my PC down immensely whenever I perform a backup.

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 12:07 AM

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Hm

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On other note, I'm not too sure what I would need a backup for whatever files

eternal cairn May 11, 2020, 12:08 AM

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It's for when your drive(s) die(s).

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 12:09 AM

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Hm

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All I have are images for random shit, uhh

eternal cairn May 11, 2020, 12:09 AM

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I usually run the Seagate backup software every few months or so.

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 12:09 AM

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Fuck it yeah I could use a backup

eternal cairn May 11, 2020, 12:12 AM

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This is the one I use: https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Portable-External-Photography-STDR4000100/dp/B0196J3UZ2?th=1

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 12:14 AM

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Cannot find

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I'll just use some regular 4TB HDD

eternal cairn May 11, 2020, 12:15 AM

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Wait, does the link not work?

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 12:15 AM

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It does

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But external HDD, uses some USB I won't really bother to get

eternal cairn May 11, 2020, 12:15 AM

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Mine just uses regular USB and it comes with a cable.

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 12:18 AM

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I kind of wish PCPP had some title like "NAS" or "Surveillance" HDD

molten tundra May 11, 2020, 12:23 AM

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I can say for sure that all of samsung's ssds have dram cache, as I use a pair of them. A 500gb nvme for boot, and a 2tb 2.5" for mass storage, as you were talking about, Mayroo. I have it set up where my most-played games are on my boot drive, for that extra bit of speed, and basically everything else runs off the 2.5" drive.

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 12:25 AM

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If you've seen Linus' video on the different SSD speeds, there's actually not anything good to get out of the newer stuff, and SATA is still quite the best for gaming

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DKLA7w9eeA

molten tundra May 11, 2020, 12:25 AM

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True, I did see that video.

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Having the nvme drive is still nice though, knowing that my system will stay fast and responsive for years to come.

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 12:28 AM

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True

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Well then

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I never thought I'd see a 4TB WD Blue for 89$

molten tundra May 11, 2020, 12:32 AM

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USD?

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 12:32 AM

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Yeah

molten tundra May 11, 2020, 12:33 AM

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Damn. That's impressive. And a damn good deal.

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 12:33 AM

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5TB is 100$ more

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6TB is like 160$ ish

molten tundra May 11, 2020, 12:33 AM

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Jesus... That's a sharp spike in price.

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 12:34 AM

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2TB and 3TB is neeeaaarrly identical in price

molten tundra May 11, 2020, 12:34 AM

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Question. Is it weird that the highest-capacity drive I own is currently in my ps4?

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 12:34 AM

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lmao

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PS4 is mainly just games, so nah

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And plus, it's a fucking bitch to wait through the downloads

molten tundra May 11, 2020, 12:35 AM

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The drive is an 8tb nas drive.

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 12:35 AM

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lmfao

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Picked it up for a good price, eh?

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3RmW8M Now what I currently have for a list

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Some are placeholders ish

molten tundra May 11, 2020, 12:36 AM

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Mind you, when I bought it, I hadn't understood drive types. Not really, it was something like $600 CAD, I was just frustrated with constantly having to delete one game to make room for another on the old 500gb drive, so I bought the biggest drive the system software could make sense of.

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 12:36 AM

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GWjianWut

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Had a 1TB

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Same shit

molten tundra May 11, 2020, 12:36 AM

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XD Yep!

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 12:37 AM

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Never really upgraded it though

molten tundra May 11, 2020, 12:37 AM

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That was always my biggest complaint about the ps4, was the drives it came with were never big enough. Not a problem for me and my frankensteined ps4 now though.

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Also my google chrome has apparently decided it no longer wants to function. I just rebooted to try and fix it, but to no avail.

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 12:38 AM

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F

molten tundra May 11, 2020, 12:39 AM

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Legit, it was working 10 minutes ago, and now it won't let me open a single window.

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 12:39 AM

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lol https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Buukman/saved/

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That's an oof there really

molten tundra May 11, 2020, 12:40 AM

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Ok, and randomly I'm back? Apparently my adblocker crashed and that was stopping my entire browser from working??

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 12:40 AM

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Hahaha

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The first option is more focusing on just being dark usually, but I've seen some white before, so I made a second option

molten tundra May 11, 2020, 12:42 AM

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Those are both great builds, the 3700x is a solid cpu.

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 12:42 AM

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A little less than 2260$ to upgrade to something I'd be happy with

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But fuuuuuuucking 4K USD for 2nd

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Of course, like any build

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Kind of rough list in the first, then improves later on in price and performance

molten tundra May 11, 2020, 12:43 AM

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Personally, I've always liked the o11 d, kinda wish I had built my pc in the xl version, and those ll120's are good fans, I've got them in my rig. A little loud at full speed, but they rarely get that high.

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 12:43 AM

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I've heard of the XL version, but I wonder if that's even worth looking into it

molten tundra May 11, 2020, 12:44 AM

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I would say not, not unless you plan on doing a beefy custom loop, or need an eatx board for whatever reason. It has support for 3x 360mm radiators, so you could build a beast of a cooling system in it.

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 12:45 AM

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Now the 2nd part list looks a little better now, 2.8K if I put monitors at 0$ cause that's something I want to get first before anything else really as I've already got a 7700K/2070 Super

molten tundra May 11, 2020, 12:45 AM

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Oh yeah, those are both good parts.

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 12:45 AM

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Yeah

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But as tech continues to strive, and now that games apparently are going to be using more cores/threads, I might as well catch up on that

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To make the switch to AMD, I literally just need the RAM and mobo and CPU

molten tundra May 11, 2020, 12:46 AM

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Right now, I'm rocking a threadripper 1920x, and a 2080, having upgraded because I was sick of dealing with an i5 3320m, dual core 2.6ghz, with integrated graphics, and it was an astounding jump.

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 12:46 AM

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lmao nice

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Wonder what's with people getting 1920X and 2970X or whatever

molten tundra May 11, 2020, 12:47 AM

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The old laptop struggled to run skyrim at 1080p 30fps lowest, the new rig gets 4k 60fps hard capped at max settings, with mods.

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 12:47 AM

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Kek

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Always great to have an upgrade

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I remember recently seeing the Radeon VII apparently had really small amount of lows in FPS, so I kind of hope we get that for the next NVIDIA lineup

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Pluuuus that 16GB VRAM

molten tundra May 11, 2020, 12:48 AM

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In my case, it was a matter of not doing enough research beforehand, honestly. I saw that the threadrippers got great benchmark scores, and had a socket that looked less likely to be busted by a noob, and like a fool, I went for it, not understanding the things that actually go in under the hood.

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 12:49 AM

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Ah

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But hey, anything's better than something that's crap at running anything too well

molten tundra May 11, 2020, 12:49 AM

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If I knew then what I know now, I'da gotten either the 3900x or the 3950x, instead.

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 12:50 AM

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It's got a nice price for a CPU with uhh

molten tundra May 11, 2020, 12:50 AM

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Also would gotten a different case, that's my biggest gripe with my past self in regards to this build.

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 12:50 AM

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12 cores

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So not too bad

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3.5GHz, ehh but that's cool too

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIiE_ZiLVOY

molten tundra May 11, 2020, 12:51 AM

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3900x has 12 cores, same as my tr, and the 3950x has 16. the 3rd gen chips have way better singlethreaded performance than mine though, and that's what matters for games. :/

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I actually have mine running a mild overclock, 3.8ghz.

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 12:51 AM

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True

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I'm looking to get a uhhh

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~~Boneless pizza~~ 4700X or a 4900X, seeing how it'll go

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And maaaybe a 3080, who knows

molten tundra May 11, 2020, 12:53 AM

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I need to reconfig my loop, I currently have the cpu and gpu blocks in parallel, and because the cpu monoblock has higher flow resistance, it actually gets less coolant running through it, so if I fully load my system with furmark and prime95, my cpu hits it's thermal limit of 68 degrees in about 10 minutes...

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 12:53 AM

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If it's worth the upgrade, I'll get it

molten tundra May 11, 2020, 12:53 AM

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Oh, the 3080 is gonna be a beast, if the rumors are to be believed.

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 12:54 AM

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I seriously wanna get a 1440p 144hz panel though GWnonexUmaruCry

eternal cairn May 11, 2020, 12:54 AM

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4k 244fps?

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On max settings?

molten tundra May 11, 2020, 12:54 AM

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Don't know about the 4th gen desktop chips though, although the mobile versions are pretty impressive.

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 12:54 AM

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70 Celsius ish is totally not bad

molten tundra May 11, 2020, 12:55 AM

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yeah, 68 is reasonable on a 12 core chip, but it's also where my chip starts to throttle. Under normal usage it doesn't get that high though, that's under max possible load.

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 12:55 AM

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Oh

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That sucks

molten tundra May 11, 2020, 12:55 AM

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Under normal usage I usually see between 55 and 60.

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 12:56 AM

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https://youtu.be/AIiE_ZiLVOY?t=97

molten tundra May 11, 2020, 12:57 AM

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I have yet to see my gpu hit 50 though, no matter how I load the system. It's funny, when the gpu is loaded but not the cpu, I see the gpu hit 47, 48, but if I load the cpu too, it ramps up my pump and fans, and my gpu drops down to 44, 45.

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 12:58 AM

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Well you do have a 2080

molten tundra May 11, 2020, 12:59 AM

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Yeah, I paid something in the neighborhood of $450, $500 CAD for my 1920x, having gotten it early 2019. Wish I had waited, coulda gotten it cheaper, or gotten a third gen chip.

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 12:59 AM

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Here's where the benchmarks start https://youtu.be/AIiE_ZiLVOY?t=171

molten tundra May 11, 2020, 12:59 AM

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But yeah, my gpu temps are crazy good, the 2080 doesn't throttle until above 80 degrees.

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 12:59 AM

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Mine is around 50-60

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Gigabyte Windforce 2070 Super lol

molten tundra May 11, 2020, 1:00 AM

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You've an air-cooled card, right?

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 1:00 AM

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Yeah

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I believe dual fan

molten tundra May 11, 2020, 1:00 AM

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Yeah, so those are pretty good temps then.

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 1:00 AM

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I also kind of blame that on the fact the PC is kind of a mess

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Not my handiwork

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lol

molten tundra May 11, 2020, 1:00 AM

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Oh? Bad cable management?

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 1:00 AM

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My brother helped me build a PC when I got a 1060 3GB

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Back then it was the best budget GPU

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I believe

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Around 2017?

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I fucking love how much it's advanced now, since we have stuff that performs waaaay better than what I used to have

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And the 3300X beating a 400$ MSRP chip from 2017 too

molten tundra May 11, 2020, 1:02 AM

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Ahh, nice. The 1060 is still a good card, a bit slower than it could be at this point, but not a bad card, either.

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 1:02 AM

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Good for 1080p

molten tundra May 11, 2020, 1:02 AM

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Oh yeah, the 3300x is amazing.

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 1:02 AM

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Kind of slacks in the 144hz for 1080p I think now?

molten tundra May 11, 2020, 1:02 AM

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The 1060 is still the most popular card in steam's hardware survey, eh?

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 1:02 AM

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Mm

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NVIDIA wins majority for GPU lol

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Intel wins majority

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DX12GPU with Win 10 wins majority

molten tundra May 11, 2020, 1:03 AM

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But yeah, I wouldn't try to run 1440 or high refresh on it, but for 1080 60, I would say it's still one of the best.

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 1:03 AM

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4 cores win majority surprisingly

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Macbook Pro wins the fucking majority lmfaoo

eternal cairn May 11, 2020, 1:04 AM

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Well, most people usually have single-monitor setups and only plan on playing games.

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 1:04 AM

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And uhh

eternal cairn May 11, 2020, 1:04 AM

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With a single 1-2TB SSD.

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 1:04 AM

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HTC Vive, majority

molten tundra May 11, 2020, 1:04 AM

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Yeah, intel still has majority market share, but a lot of that is simply because they were dominant for so many years. AMD has been outselling them on a month by month basis for about a year and a half now I think?

eternal cairn May 11, 2020, 1:04 AM

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LOL Vive.

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 1:04 AM

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Win 10 64 bit wins

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16GB is the majority

eternal cairn May 11, 2020, 1:05 AM

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Was that sarcasm?

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Please tell me it was. There's no way anybody's got that much disposable income to waste on Vive.

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 1:05 AM

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Although 16GB is kind of down by 0.76% now, sitting on 38.25%

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Must be them getting to 32GB

molten tundra May 11, 2020, 1:05 AM

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A lot of that makes sense to me. 4 cores is pretty easy to get into these days, and back a few years ago, it was the majority of mid to high-end.

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 1:05 AM

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I'm serious

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lol

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1060 is still majority holy shit dude

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11.46% though

eternal cairn May 11, 2020, 1:06 AM

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I thought 970/980 was majority.

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 1:06 AM

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2nd most is 1050 Ti

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8.10%

molten tundra May 11, 2020, 1:06 AM

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My rig has 32, partly for a bit of future-proofing, partly because it's just cool. But I can see a lot of people building mid to high-end systems going for 32 now for the same reason.

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 1:06 AM

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5.17% on 1050

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People still sit with the GTX 1000 series a shit load

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Where's 1080 Ti at

molten tundra May 11, 2020, 1:07 AM

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Like I said, the 1060 is still on top in the steam hardware survey. XD

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 1:07 AM

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1.56%

eternal cairn May 11, 2020, 1:07 AM

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I upgraded to a 3900x from an Intel processor a few months back.

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i7 6700k.

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 1:07 AM

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AMD Radeon RX 5700
0.20%

eternal cairn May 11, 2020, 1:07 AM

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12 cores is amazing for streaming/recording.

molten tundra May 11, 2020, 1:07 AM

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It was a good generation of cards. Combine that with the 20-series' price spike, and a lot of people wouldn't want to upgrade.

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 1:07 AM

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NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 Ti
0.38%

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8 cores is still great for streaming record though

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We could probably easily get 12 cores when Ryzen 4000 comes out though

eternal cairn May 11, 2020, 1:08 AM

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Yeah, but I usually have like 20 programs open and 100 Google Chrome tabs. 😆

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 1:08 AM

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Since they drop price

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NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER
0.47%

molten tundra May 11, 2020, 1:08 AM

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I could actually see people opting to go 10 series even after the 20 series launched, because 20 series was so pricey, and they would have driven down the cost of the 10 series. Plus with 10 series still having competitive performance, well...

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 1:09 AM

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8GB VRAM is a majority, a perfect number

molten tundra May 11, 2020, 1:09 AM

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Oooof, Damn, yeah that would load your system. XD

eternal cairn May 11, 2020, 1:09 AM

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I think the main reasoning behind that is "if it can run modern games at 1080p60, it will suffice".

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 1:09 AM

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1080 Ti for 400$ :)

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Or 500$

molten tundra May 11, 2020, 1:09 AM

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I expect we'll see core counts continue to rise for a while yet.

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 1:09 AM

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But somewhat better than 2070 Super

eternal cairn May 11, 2020, 1:10 AM

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I mean, we might get more cores at reduced clocking speeds.

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But at least it's more variety.

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 1:10 AM

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1920x1080 is the majority

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For primary display

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Multi monitor, 3840x1080p

eternal cairn May 11, 2020, 1:11 AM

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1080p being majority makes a lot of sense. The bulk of people who own consoles typically play at 1080p.

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 1:11 AM

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99.98% got a microphone

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English is 38.49%

molten tundra May 11, 2020, 1:11 AM

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We already have high core count, low clock speed, intel's had xeons like that for years. The g=big change is high core counts, without sacrificing speed, and at reasonable prices.

eternal cairn May 11, 2020, 1:11 AM

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What kind of microphones?

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 1:11 AM

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Free drive space: 250-499GB

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Majority has at least 1TB

molten tundra May 11, 2020, 1:12 AM

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I've played console for most of my life, partly because I never had a capable system, so I'm perfectly fine with 1080 30, anything above is just a nice bonus.

eternal cairn May 11, 2020, 1:12 AM

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I think the other thing that matters more is frames.

molten tundra May 11, 2020, 1:12 AM

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I know my mic is just the one built into my webcam, a razer kiyo.

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 1:12 AM

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Network speed majority is unspecified, 99.99% lol

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HTC Vive is majority

eternal cairn May 11, 2020, 1:13 AM

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Mine is a Blue Yeti.

molten tundra May 11, 2020, 1:13 AM

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I know for myself, I feel like I screwed up on monitor.

eternal cairn May 11, 2020, 1:13 AM

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Vive is not majority.

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 1:13 AM

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Then whatever the fuck "Other Settings" is

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📎 OtherSettings.PNG

eternal cairn May 11, 2020, 1:13 AM

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I just need to pick up a 1080p144 monitor with G-Sync compatibility.

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 1:14 AM

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Hyperthreads at 66.33% though

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April 2020 it was taken

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I wonder how it works

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The whole survey thing

molten tundra May 11, 2020, 1:16 AM

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I already had a 1080 60hz monitor, I had originally gotten it when I got my ps4, because I had no flatscreen to hook it up to, ultimately got a cheap 1080 43" tv once I had a tv stand, and then I hooked the monitor to my old laptop, but when I upgraded my pc, I needed a new monitor, because I get twitchy having only a single screen, so I figured, hey, why not get a 4k monitor, finally see what all the hype is?, and so I got a 4k 60hz monitor, and that is now my primary. Rather underwhelming. Wish now I had opted for 1440pm high refresh instead, because I know the jump from 30 fps to 60 has been amazing, and I can only imagine what going even higher would be like.

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As for the survey, I think it's just data collected about system info by the steam client.

proper wren May 11, 2020, 1:17 AM

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I bought a crappy keyboard controller

eternal cairn May 11, 2020, 1:18 AM

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Sort of the same boat as me, Dovah, except I like mine. Clearer text is nicer.

molten tundra May 11, 2020, 1:18 AM

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I'd imagine they have a function where they can just send out a request to all the clients to report on what hardware they're installed on, I can't imagine it'd be too hard to set up.

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Yeah, the sharpness is nice on my 4k, but at 27", it's not a noticeable difference from my 1080 monitor in day-to-day use. There's a couple fringe cases, but overall, I think I'da been perfectly happy with a 1440 monitor, put the extra budget towards higher refresh rate.

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What do you mean, keyboard controller? Something like razer tartarus or orbweaver?

eternal cairn May 11, 2020, 1:20 AM

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It depends on how much closer you are to the screen and pixel density.

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 1:21 AM

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I see pixels for days on my 1440p 24" sometimes

eternal cairn May 11, 2020, 1:21 AM

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How close are you to the monitor?

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 1:21 AM

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No AA on Warzone? FUCKING EVERYWHERE

molten tundra May 11, 2020, 1:21 AM

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Really? Hmm... I sit anywhere from 2 to 4 feet away from mine usually...

eternal cairn May 11, 2020, 1:21 AM

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LOL

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 1:21 AM

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I'm like a good 1.5-2.5 feet away

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Warzone can go fuck itself if it's actually that bad

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Even with max settings

molten tundra May 11, 2020, 1:22 AM

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And I've never noticed an issue... I actually usually turn aa off, for the extra bit of performance.

eternal cairn May 11, 2020, 1:22 AM

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The farther you are away from the screen, the smaller the pixels appear in your vision until they just sort of "mesh" in with the picture.

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 1:22 AM

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I still play since it's a BR I can get used to since I've played a lot of CoD

eternal cairn May 11, 2020, 1:23 AM

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You might still see some pixels from 2-4 feet at 1080p without antialiasing.

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 1:24 AM

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You def will

eternal cairn May 11, 2020, 1:24 AM

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At 4K, it's almost unnoticeable from the same distance.

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 1:24 AM

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Unless monitor small enufg

eternal cairn May 11, 2020, 1:24 AM

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I think mine is 24".

molten tundra May 11, 2020, 1:26 AM

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I do occasionally, but I've found that on my 4k monitor, there's a few games, usually not well optimized, that I run at 1440, and even that's enough that I stop seeing the pixels. That's why I say I wish I had gone 1440, I feel like for me the difference between that and 4k wouldn't be noticeable enough to justify the system overhead and added price of 4k.

eternal cairn May 11, 2020, 1:26 AM

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Do you run fullscreen or windowed?

molten tundra May 11, 2020, 1:27 AM

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Fullscreen. Always. I find it strangely annoying when a game isn't fullscreen.

eternal cairn May 11, 2020, 1:27 AM

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Same.

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 1:27 AM

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I only play windowed if it doesn't have the resolution supported lol

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Such as, World At War

eternal cairn May 11, 2020, 1:28 AM

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I only play windowed if the game won't go fullscreen on the monitor I move it to.

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*glares at Destiny 2*

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 1:28 AM

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lol

molten tundra May 11, 2020, 1:29 AM

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Even if I can't get my resolution up high enough, I still run fullscreen, I'd rather see pixels than lose my fullscreen. And I don't have issues with games not going fullscreen on the monitor I want, because I run all my games on my primary display.

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 2:34 AM

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Man, if only there was a white H100i that was 360mm

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Could I do a 240mm radiator and put a 120mm fan next to the radiator?

molten tundra May 11, 2020, 3:17 AM

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You could, but you'd have one fan that looked a little different, because of the different mounting heights.

knotty haven May 11, 2020, 5:22 AM

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l o l

eternal cairn May 11, 2020, 6:46 AM

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Unless you have budget restrictions, just go with 360mm.

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The side panel is going to serve as an exhaust for your radiator, so I don't think having a single intake fan next your radiator's exhaust fans is going to be very beneficial to your airflow.

sand heath May 11, 2020, 9:23 AM

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its not copying my lobby code any suggestions?

proper wren May 11, 2020, 10:03 AM

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#gtfo-related-questions

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 3:38 PM

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I don't care for budget restrictions

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Only problem is finding one that's just as white as Mr. Clean's clothing on every commercial ever :)

mint pasture May 11, 2020, 4:26 PM

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Anybody know why i cant undeafen & unmute my discord?

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 4:26 PM

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Could be that the input/output audio is wrong?

mint pasture May 11, 2020, 4:27 PM

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Hmmm,maybe..hmmm gotta check later.

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So Mayroo,if i put it right..then i can download the apps & get it work right?

manic tartan May 11, 2020, 4:43 PM

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Ok so

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I'm planning on building a Streaming PC

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But I'm hanging with 2 options

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Buy and build one specific Streaming PC with Intel Core i7-3770, 16GB DDR4 RAM, GeForce GTX 1660 ti, 250gb SSD with 500GB HDD.

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Buy that PC above, but build my current pc to make it Stream-handable, and the other pc mentioned above would be the Gaming PC

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ofc for the 2nd one, I'd need a recorder, but I'm just asking these options

vapid crypt May 11, 2020, 4:57 PM

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Okay well, if you wanted two pcs you actually do not need a capture card or anything for that. There is a plugin that exists with OBS studio that allows you to capture video from a second computer

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And for a streaming PC you don't need much, don't even need a graphics card. A CPU with integrated graphics would typically be enough since its only doing the streaming

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Now if you just wanted the one computer, why are you considering an old i7? Right now there exists a low end Ryzen part that performs on par with the i7 7700k and it costs $120

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R3 3300X, and if you wanted more cores/threads there's also older Ryzen cpus that are around the same price or less. The R5 2600 and the 1600AF

fleet canopy May 11, 2020, 5:00 PM

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Indeed

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I'd go with 1600AF if you want a 2600

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Because both are the same thing anyways

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But I think they raised the price on it?

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By a little, but you'll have to check it out

vapid crypt May 11, 2020, 5:01 PM

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As for the other specs listen, don't bother with the 1660TI unless its sub $250, the 1660 Super is basically the same performance while being $239 on average

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Uh people buy them out to resell for more

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Demand increases pricing

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But yeah its no more than a bout $120

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Even if it should be $85

vapid crypt May 11, 2020, 11:53 PM

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Ampere leaks

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCPufeQmFJk

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Looks like the 2080ti will become midrange... I kinda already knew this phaWesker

fleet canopy May 12, 2020, 12:08 AM

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lmao

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Weird seeing it like that, triple fan

vapid crypt May 12, 2020, 12:09 AM

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Yeah the thumbnail, its a crude photoshop

proper wren May 12, 2020, 6:18 AM

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meh store has less than like 4 laptops now

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used to have over 150

jade ermine May 12, 2020, 7:29 AM

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Wouldn't be too hyped about moores video. Guy does not have the best track record with leaks Steve3

merry bay May 12, 2020, 8:17 AM

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buckets of salt around any leaks tbh

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in any case both Big Navi and RTX 3000 seem very promising

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going to be hard waiting for partner cards - itching for an upgrade

vapid crypt May 12, 2020, 8:56 AM

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Which leaks has he presented that were unreliable?

lilac geyser May 12, 2020, 5:56 PM

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well to start with the freaking NAME of his channel is incorrect

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it still holds true today as far as i can tell

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i therefore conclude that his channels name is meant to be more sensational than informative, and i assume his content follows suit

vapid crypt May 12, 2020, 6:07 PM

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I don't really agree with that take, cause I am familiar with his content. Anyway I don't think the name is supposed the be accurate, but it is more interesting than "Moore's Law is Slowing Down" or "Moore's Law is Dying"

fleet canopy May 12, 2020, 6:09 PM

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Moore's Law ain't really that dead at least

clear marten May 12, 2020, 7:20 PM

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Wonder how many can actually specify moores law without googling

fleet canopy May 12, 2020, 7:21 PM

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I never really checked up what Moore's Law was kek

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Except for this time

clear marten May 12, 2020, 7:23 PM

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I like how people have opinions about things they know nothing about

fleet canopy May 12, 2020, 7:28 PM

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lmao

proper wren May 12, 2020, 10:49 PM

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xmg apex 15~

proper wren May 12, 2020, 11:12 PM

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https://youtu.be/So7TNRhIYJ8

fleet canopy May 12, 2020, 11:13 PM

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Yuh

molten tundra May 12, 2020, 11:16 PM

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... I... Want to know more. Is that a joke? Is it real? I'm leaning towards it being the former, but it'd be awesome if it was the latter.

proper wren May 12, 2020, 11:16 PM

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https://www.pcgamer.com/nvidias-rtx-3080-ti-looks-bigger-than-expected/

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They put easter eggs

fleet canopy May 12, 2020, 11:17 PM

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4 fans

vapid crypt May 12, 2020, 11:34 PM

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He's not wearing a leather jacket

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Shocking phaWesker

late sorrel May 13, 2020, 12:31 AM

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oh no

abstract kite May 13, 2020, 1:01 AM

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Not real. No Leather Jacket = fake news

lilac geyser May 13, 2020, 1:39 AM

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"comments have been disabled"

lilac geyser May 13, 2020, 2:43 AM

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so you think you have the latest technology pcie 4.0 graphics card and motherboard huh?

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i bet you never had an x32 slot on your motherboard https://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon/C600/X9DRW-3F.cfm

molten tundra May 13, 2020, 3:36 AM

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That's absurd! What device, even in the server space, could need that much pcie bandwidth??

lilac geyser May 13, 2020, 3:51 AM

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i'm not sure if there is a single device that would use it, its probably for a riser card. basically more of the motherboard sticking out at a right angle that would have two or more additional slots

sick reef May 13, 2020, 6:57 AM

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For an server environment, it probably helps a ton.

brisk badger May 13, 2020, 10:45 AM

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it's riser extension. There are no pcie slots available by default cause mosst servers will never need any graphics

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Also when speaking of supermicro, really good article: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-10-04/the-big-hack-how-china-used-a-tiny-chip-to-infiltrate-america-s-top-companies

Probably many know it already but anyway a good read

proper wren May 13, 2020, 11:29 AM

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https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-core-i9-10900k-stress-test

fleet canopy May 13, 2020, 11:30 AM

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How do I make my 7700K heat up my fucking cold room

proper wren May 13, 2020, 11:31 AM

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take out the heatsink

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WLIm4XLPAE

jade ermine May 13, 2020, 7:59 PM

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@fleet canopy Delid for better heat transfer -> more heat in your room wonka

fleet canopy May 13, 2020, 8:11 PM

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Sounds cool

clear marten May 13, 2020, 9:16 PM

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Have you ever heard of conservation of energy

lilac geyser May 14, 2020, 12:56 AM

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thanks to GTFO my graphics card is reporting that I have played unitycrashhandler for about 5 hours

void perch May 14, 2020, 1:04 AM

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yes, unity crash handler, best game

abstract kite May 14, 2020, 1:08 AM

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^

fleet canopy May 14, 2020, 1:12 AM

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Totally

lilac geyser May 14, 2020, 1:39 AM

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https://iss-sim.spacex.com/

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protip: use WASD and the arrow keys for most of your controls

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actually numpad is better than arrow keys

late sorrel May 14, 2020, 5:16 AM

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https://www.amd.com/en/products/professional-graphics/radeon-pro-vii?utm_campaign=radeonprovii&utm_medium=redirect&utm_source=301

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poggers moment

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we finally getting the R7 revamp

fleet canopy May 14, 2020, 8:35 PM

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Hm

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I should not be paying 3,000$ for this lmfao https://pcpartpicker.com/list/prKGRk

vapid crypt May 14, 2020, 8:42 PM

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You're planning to get all that?

fleet canopy May 14, 2020, 8:43 PM

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It'll obviously be changed over time

vapid crypt May 14, 2020, 8:43 PM

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Oh I see

fleet canopy May 14, 2020, 8:43 PM

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But I more felt like I wanted to go with white

vapid crypt May 14, 2020, 8:43 PM

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GTC was today, Nvidia talked about Ampere

fleet canopy May 14, 2020, 8:43 PM

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Today? Didn't know

vapid crypt May 14, 2020, 8:44 PM

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That is Jensen, it was mainly talk about the architecture and their biggest card and all that

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Gives some idea where the consumer products will land

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And the leaks were pretty accurate going by the info

fleet canopy May 14, 2020, 8:45 PM

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Surprising

vapid crypt May 14, 2020, 8:47 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOf2S7OzFEg

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Its 9 parts

fleet canopy May 14, 2020, 8:47 PM

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9 parts in 13 minutes

vapid crypt May 14, 2020, 8:48 PM

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Looks like they uploaded all 9 parts at the same time, ended up listing it out of order on their channel phaWesker

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https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZHnYvH1qtOZ2BSwG4CHmKSVHxC2lyIPL

fleet canopy May 14, 2020, 8:48 PM

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I see now

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It's in order for me

vapid crypt May 14, 2020, 8:49 PM

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Yeah in the playlist, but on the upload list its out of order

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I love how he has a 2070 super on display in the background

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As if thats his personal favorite card atm phaWesker

fleet canopy May 14, 2020, 8:51 PM

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Eh

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But it's a great card at least

vapid crypt May 14, 2020, 8:52 PM

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1080ti 3.0 PirateSimon

fleet canopy May 14, 2020, 8:52 PM

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1080 Ti 4.0 when

vapid crypt May 14, 2020, 8:53 PM

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The 3060 is probably gonna be only a bit faster than that I'm guessing, like 1080ti +10%

fleet canopy May 14, 2020, 8:53 PM

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Yeah I guess

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Only worth taking is if you don't have something with that amount of performance

vapid crypt May 14, 2020, 8:53 PM

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Well something like close to the 2080 super specifically

fleet canopy May 14, 2020, 8:54 PM

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Oh?

vapid crypt May 14, 2020, 8:54 PM

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I mean that's basically 1080ti +15% maybe 20%

fleet canopy May 14, 2020, 8:54 PM

#

GWworkshopAkaShrug

next stream May 14, 2020, 8:57 PM

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109775240994574086

fleet canopy May 14, 2020, 9:00 PM

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?t lfg

rugged notchBOT May 14, 2020, 9:00 PM

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Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

proper wren May 14, 2020, 9:29 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaKLuFx2V-M hmm~

rapid nacelle May 15, 2020, 6:50 AM

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hi

fleet canopy May 15, 2020, 1:47 PM

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Damn, he went hard on that first one

lilac geyser May 15, 2020, 4:57 PM

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https://www.axios.com/scoop-facebook-to-buy-giphy-for-400-million-4a75a359-833b-484d-b15b-87e94d3de017.html

fleet canopy May 15, 2020, 4:59 PM

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Please no.

proper wren May 15, 2020, 10:55 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMZKJYkD2Fk

proper wren May 15, 2020, 11:46 PM

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https://www.canadacomputers.com/listing/NZXT-WoW-Cases-200508 WoW Cases from nzxt lol

fleet canopy May 15, 2020, 11:51 PM

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No.

vapid crypt May 16, 2020, 3:28 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oGAMzSR7EM

abstract kite May 16, 2020, 6:26 AM

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its a pretty cool case

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way too expensive for the fact it has mediocre air flow and is only a mid tower ATX

sick reef May 16, 2020, 10:10 AM

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<@&408548765599793173>

red sinew May 16, 2020, 10:10 AM

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Thanks, were on it

sick reef May 16, 2020, 10:11 AM

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Ah, yeah, check the other channels too

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Like GTFO Media

abstract kite May 16, 2020, 10:35 AM

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📎 27bp69ghzjc31.jpg

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its too thicc

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dont think it will fit in my case xD

abstract kite May 16, 2020, 11:00 AM

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Aye another DRP4 user

fleet canopy May 16, 2020, 2:27 PM

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Lol gamer nexus mod mat

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On the other hand

abstract kite May 16, 2020, 2:38 PM

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📎 20200504_184949.jpg 📎 20200504_194734.jpg 📎 20200504_232243.jpg 📎 20200504_232248.jpg

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Just finished my first PC Build

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Ryzen 5 3600, pny gtx 1660 oc edition, asus tuf gaming x570 wifi mobo, corsair 16gb ram, wd blue 1tb ssd

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What benchmark software can I use to see my performance in game?

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Oh and coolermaster h500 case

fleet canopy May 16, 2020, 2:40 PM

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Fucking nice dude

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There’s a free benchmark demo on steam, forgot what it was

wise pumice May 16, 2020, 2:41 PM

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I use https://benchmark.unigine.com/heaven

abstract kite May 16, 2020, 2:44 PM

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I used heaven already, is there a way to config it to work in game? I'll look for the steam benchmark demo too

fleet canopy May 16, 2020, 2:45 PM

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It's 3DMark @abstract kite

abstract kite May 16, 2020, 2:46 PM

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Cool thanks

sweet sage May 16, 2020, 5:13 PM

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🐒

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I think you just like me 😉

#

who are you

#

really?

#

you have funny meme

#

mean

#

😭

wise pumice May 16, 2020, 5:34 PM

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Are you

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Are you talking to yourself bro?

sweet sage May 16, 2020, 5:40 PM

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I-I.. sorry bro.

wise pumice May 16, 2020, 5:41 PM

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I-it's okay bro

jade ermine May 16, 2020, 5:46 PM

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📎 IMG_20200515_130007.jpg 📎 IMG_20200516_135029.jpg 📎 IMG_20200516_142334.jpg 📎 IMG_20200516_161127.jpg

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Had fun time today installing quick disconnect fittings to my pc. Makes disassembly way easier blasting

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and sorry for vertical photos lol

late sorrel May 16, 2020, 7:23 PM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/gkt7jt/source_is_dead_long_live_source/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

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hell yeah

vapid crypt May 16, 2020, 7:33 PM

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Great to see, wondering if there's gonna be Source 2 conversions for Half-Life 2 and what not

marsh sequoia May 17, 2020, 8:22 AM

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📎 20200517_031828.jpg 📎 20200517_031808.jpg

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📎 20200517_031506.jpg

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Tweaked my system for higher frames let's go!

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I need to upgrade

jade ermine May 17, 2020, 10:28 AM

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And now you can uninstall userbenchmark and get 3dmark

#

pepeLove

proper wren May 17, 2020, 10:40 AM

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3d mark > userbenchmark

fleet canopy May 17, 2020, 2:38 PM

#

Still hanging around in a 6800K and a 1080, neat

marsh sequoia May 17, 2020, 2:38 PM

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I have 3d mark

fleet canopy May 17, 2020, 2:39 PM

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3D Mark, the superior program

marsh sequoia May 17, 2020, 2:39 PM

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And yep 6800k and 1080 strix still running strong

#

📎 Screenshot_20200517-094211_Steam.jpg

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I've had 3d mark for years actually

fleet canopy May 17, 2020, 2:42 PM

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Lol nice

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Better than demo

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Userbenchmark nowadays isn’t really that good, as they’re really lying about intel vs amd stuff

marsh sequoia May 17, 2020, 2:43 PM

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Why would I just have the demo

fleet canopy May 17, 2020, 2:44 PM

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I only have the demo for myself lul

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But hey, better than nothing

marsh sequoia May 17, 2020, 2:44 PM

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Oh I totally recommend. Its pretty cool.

fleet canopy May 17, 2020, 2:45 PM

#

Although you aren’t wrong, I could try just buying 3D Mark but I do not have any way of actually buying it anyways for the moment

fleet junco May 17, 2020, 2:46 PM

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NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERDS

fleet canopy May 17, 2020, 2:46 PM

#

No u

fleet junco May 17, 2020, 2:46 PM

#

no u >:C

fleet canopy May 17, 2020, 2:46 PM

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No u

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;)

fleet junco May 17, 2020, 2:47 PM

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Don't make me cuddle you, cuteness >:C

fleet canopy May 17, 2020, 2:48 PM

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Bet

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I’m still in the bed cause I’m too lazy, we can cuddle uwu

fleet junco May 17, 2020, 2:49 PM

#

Daawww<3

fleet canopy May 17, 2020, 2:50 PM

#

GWjiangLoveHeart

abstract kite May 18, 2020, 3:19 PM

#

FBI OPEN UP

fleet junco May 18, 2020, 3:29 PM

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SHE'S 18 I SWEAR!

void perch May 18, 2020, 3:31 PM

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alright let's keep this on topic please

abstract kite May 18, 2020, 3:44 PM

#

Oki

spare reef May 18, 2020, 10:24 PM

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alguien latino o de habla ispana para jugar ?

vapid crypt May 18, 2020, 10:51 PM

#

#lfg-latin-america

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 1:56 PM

#

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhVGrLJpoy8

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 2:23 PM

#

phaJessica

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I wonder if I could even get a zen 3 processor if it disables Zen+ support since that's what I'm using phaWesker

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I don't have a mobo that supports bios flashback

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 2:26 PM

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Oof

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 2:27 PM

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Well, we'll see. Personally I don't think I could pass up a good price on a 3700X or something

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 2:27 PM

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Probably will be good I guess

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 2:29 PM

#

Oh going by what Debaur said, flashing would work; but the old cpu wouldn't work assuming the board dropped support for it

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So going to Zen 3 should be no issue in that case

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 2:30 PM

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Yeah I guess

sick reef May 19, 2020, 4:12 PM

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That whole debacle is a can of worms and a half.

viscid prism May 19, 2020, 6:56 PM

#

some big fps problems lately with the gtfo can anyone help me?

the thing is, i have an rtx 2070 and max fps should be above 144 and i only have 80-90 fps, even if im changes all settings to low, as low as i can, it still stays at 80-90 fps

when enemies come, I only have 30 fps...

I have an rtx 2070.
i have an amd rhyzen 7 2700 8 core 16 thread processor
and a 144-hour monitor...

Sorry for my poor English :D
thanks in advance

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 7:08 PM

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Try playing around with the CPU culling perhaps. It might change

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 7:19 PM

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ok I am new to pcs and want to get GTFO anyone I can dm some pc specs to to see if it will run?

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 7:19 PM

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#system-specs

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 7:19 PM

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oh ok ty

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 7:20 PM

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Try to be above those specs generally

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 7:20 PM

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As for the 2070 performance issue, I'm not entirely sure 144 is a sure thing with the game atm, though to be fair I get similar performance with my RX 580

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So that's a bit odd phaSheva

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 7:20 PM

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Because those specs make it playable on 30FPS ish I think

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 7:21 PM

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Recommended should be solid 60, min is like maybe 30

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 7:21 PM

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I think so yeah

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 7:21 PM

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On low settings

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 7:21 PM

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It's not too hard to really keep yourself above 1080p 60FPS across all games really

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 7:24 PM

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@viscid prism Are you playing at 1080 or 1440p, and what's the speed on your RAM? For Ryzen, especially the first two generations RAM speed is important to help with latency with the CPU.

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 7:28 PM

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It's funny how prices get

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B450 Tomahawk? 370$!

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 7:29 PM

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Old stock, and it isn't being manufactured anymore

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 7:29 PM

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True

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Now anyone will just get a MAX

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 7:29 PM

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Max boards fully replaced those

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They made a Max board for the one I have X470 Gaming Pro, updated appearances too. Can't find it listed anywhere though phaWesker

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 7:30 PM

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lmao

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Probably enough to run crysis on 144p 15fps https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YdcJXv

viscid prism May 19, 2020, 7:39 PM

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@fleet canopy still the same...

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 7:39 PM

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Oof

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 7:41 PM

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The hell? phaWesker

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 7:42 PM

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Yes

viscid prism May 19, 2020, 7:49 PM

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@vapid crypt 1080 and idk i know only that i have 16gb ram but not the speed contact me and i can screen share for you :D
my cousin build the pc for me he know all the stuff but cant help me to fix it thats why im writing in here but i want to screen share for you...

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 7:49 PM

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Screenshare isn't necessary, you can find out the speed of the memory a few different ways

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A lot of the times its printed on a label on the RAM sticks, there's some programs that show that information as well

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Like HWinfo

viscid prism May 19, 2020, 7:51 PM

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@vapid crypt I have hfinfo already but dont know how really to use it

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@vapid crypt thats what i mean with screen share im not experienced in this ...

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 7:54 PM

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So the system summary that comes up on HWinfo, the RAM info I circled here as an example. I'm using an older version of it cause I can't be asked to update it

📎 unknown.png

viscid prism May 19, 2020, 7:55 PM

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uff im soory im out there

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 7:55 PM

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The "clock" is the speed I'm referring to

viscid prism May 19, 2020, 7:55 PM

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cant do this alonme im just a beginner in the pc stuff...

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 7:55 PM

#

I guess you can also see it in task manager, I just remembered that

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performance tab on task manager, click on memory

viscid prism May 19, 2020, 7:56 PM

#

@vapid crypt

📎 unknown.png

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 7:56 PM

#

Oh boy

#

Yeah that's base clock, either the memory wasn't set to XMP or its just a slow kit

viscid prism May 19, 2020, 7:59 PM

#

so it says me what? 😄

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 8:00 PM

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Your RAM is the slowest it could possibly be

#

Either it wasn't tuned to run at its rated speed, or its just that slow

viscid prism May 19, 2020, 8:02 PM

#

so i can set it faster?

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 8:03 PM

#

Maybe.

viscid prism May 19, 2020, 8:03 PM

#

and how 😄

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 8:03 PM

#

How it works is RAM manufacturers sell it at a rated speed, its technically overclocking

#

So you have to go into the motherboard BIOS to turn on a setting to ensure its running at its rated speed

#

The thing is though, there are cheap RAM that just run at the slowest speed and it can't go beyond that

#

So you might have cheap slow RAM, it can't be helped in that case

viscid prism May 19, 2020, 8:05 PM

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hmm okay...

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so the best thing i can do is buy a faster one?

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 8:06 PM

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If you can find out the model of your RAM, you can see what its speed is meant to be

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There's a sticker on the stick that tells you its part number

viscid prism May 19, 2020, 8:07 PM

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sec ill watching

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its maybe beside the qr code io think

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 8:08 PM

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QR code?

viscid prism May 19, 2020, 8:08 PM

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it looks like 😄

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and qr code*

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an*

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 8:09 PM

#

That's likely unrelated to that I would guess

viscid prism May 19, 2020, 8:09 PM

#

im gonna put the glass of and take a look closer

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 8:09 PM

#

You said your friend made the pc for you?

viscid prism May 19, 2020, 8:10 PM

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my cousion yeah 😄

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 8:10 PM

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Did he let you keep the product packaging?

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Cause if you have the box for the RAM, it would have the part number on it somewhere

viscid prism May 19, 2020, 8:11 PM

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i biuld it togetzher

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ill watcxhing if i kept this but normly i kept all the stuff wait a minute pls

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didnt kept it

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i have to watch the code...

#

should i put the glass of and look closer?

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 8:17 PM

#

Might be hard to make it out, but you could try

viscid prism May 19, 2020, 8:18 PM

#

i only have to look closer its on the top middle of the side

#

should i shut down my pc?

#

and startup after this?

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 8:18 PM

#

So you could turn it off, take one of the sticks out and look at the part number that way

#

That would be easiest

viscid prism May 19, 2020, 8:19 PM

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okay i have discord on my phone too thats fine

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 8:19 PM

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Sure, you can snap a picture of it then too

#

You know how to re-install RAM right?

#

I think you implied your cousin helped you

viscid prism May 19, 2020, 8:22 PM

#

📎 IMG_20200519_222159.jpg

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Gold enough to see?

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 8:22 PM

#

Oh okay I can make that out

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F4-3200C...

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That's all I needed to know

#

Your memory is running at 2133mhz, this kit is supposed to run at 3200mhz

viscid prism May 19, 2020, 8:23 PM

#

Okay...

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 8:23 PM

#

So yeah XMP has not been enabled

lilac geyser May 19, 2020, 8:24 PM

#

its bs if you have to enable overclocking in motherboard setting to hit rated speed of ram

#

everyong knows this

#

everyone even

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 8:27 PM

#

I'm not surprised that there are people that are ignorant of RAM overclocking, but in any case... uh Trofline do you know what motherboard you have?

viscid prism May 19, 2020, 8:27 PM

#

tomahawk b450 sound like that

#

but i kept it...

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 8:28 PM

#

The Max model or you're not sure?

viscid prism May 19, 2020, 8:28 PM

#

not really sure

#

but i think only msi b450 tomahawk

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 8:29 PM

#

Sure, okay let me see

viscid prism May 19, 2020, 8:29 PM

#

sure 😄

#

on hwinfo?

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 8:29 PM

#

Huh?

viscid prism May 19, 2020, 8:30 PM

#

or wheree 😄

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 8:30 PM

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Well you don't enable XMP through HWinfo, its through the motherboard Bios

viscid prism May 19, 2020, 8:30 PM

#

ouh xD

#

you want an screen share?

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 8:31 PM

#

No you wouldn't be able to do it

viscid prism May 19, 2020, 8:31 PM

#

😄 im sorry

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 8:32 PM

#

The Bios is not apart of Windows, its an interface that you boot into almost as soon as you turn the computer back on

viscid prism May 19, 2020, 8:32 PM

#

ohh this shit...

#

i think im remembering

#

but idk how to do it...

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 8:33 PM

#

Yeah its fairly simple, so right now you would restart

viscid prism May 19, 2020, 8:33 PM

#

yeah

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 8:33 PM

#

And when the MSI logo comes up press Delete over and over

viscid prism May 19, 2020, 8:33 PM

#

i can write while i can do it i mean i have discord on my phone too

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 8:33 PM

#

And it will open up the BIOS

viscid prism May 19, 2020, 8:34 PM

#

okay

#

so i shutdown my pc now...

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And doing it

#

Did

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 8:36 PM

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So you could take a picture of it, and I can kinda tell you where to go

viscid prism May 19, 2020, 8:36 PM

#

📎 IMG_20200519_223606.jpg

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Sure...

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 8:36 PM

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Alright, click on Memory

#

Oh hang on

#

See where it says A-XMP at the top

#

Toggle that on

viscid prism May 19, 2020, 8:37 PM

#

📎 IMG_20200519_223711.jpg

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See it wait

#

📎 IMG_20200519_223752.jpg

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 8:39 PM

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Hmmm it should work after saving at exiting

viscid prism May 19, 2020, 8:40 PM

#

I dont see any save...

#

Button*

lilac geyser May 19, 2020, 8:40 PM

#

when you go to quit it usually asks you if you want to save first

viscid prism May 19, 2020, 8:40 PM

#

But for what, is the 1
And 2?

#

Ohh xD

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 8:41 PM

#

The bios is a bit different from the one on my motherboard so

viscid prism May 19, 2020, 8:41 PM

#

All fine xD

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 8:41 PM

#

On first glance I can't really tell where to go to exit phaWesker

#

And the 1 and 2 are profiles

viscid prism May 19, 2020, 8:42 PM

#

I got it its on the top right corner

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 8:42 PM

#

Ah yes that makes sense

viscid prism May 19, 2020, 8:42 PM

#

Ahh kk

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 8:42 PM

#

Before you do that

#

Make sure the speed is correct

viscid prism May 19, 2020, 8:42 PM

#

Ups

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 8:42 PM

#

It should be 3200 mhz

viscid prism May 19, 2020, 8:42 PM

#

Already did it xD

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 8:42 PM

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Its fine, you can check in HWinfo

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Or in task manager

lilac geyser May 19, 2020, 8:43 PM

#

it has the speed right in the bios too

viscid prism May 19, 2020, 8:44 PM

#

📎 unknown.png

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 8:44 PM

#

Hmm... that's 2933mhz, same as what I'm using

#

Uh so I guess it should be XMP profile 2

#

I assume you set it to number 1 right?

viscid prism May 19, 2020, 8:45 PM

#

ohh okay set it to profil 2 now?

#

yeah i got the 1st

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 8:45 PM

#

Yeah that should be the 3200 speed

viscid prism May 19, 2020, 8:45 PM

#

okay sec

#

Changed and startup

lilac geyser May 19, 2020, 8:49 PM

#

the waiting is killing me

viscid prism May 19, 2020, 8:49 PM

#

📎 unknown.png

#

😄

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 8:50 PM

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Alright, great so that's done. I don't know if it will solve your framerate issues, but it should help something

lilac geyser May 19, 2020, 8:50 PM

#

📎 fireworks.jpg

viscid prism May 19, 2020, 8:50 PM

#

okay thy 😄

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 8:50 PM

#

I'd say overclock the cpu, but you're using the stock cooler so that's not the best idea.

viscid prism May 19, 2020, 8:50 PM

#

thanks for all again..

#

true ... xD

#

strating gtfo

#

exaclty 100 fps

#

+10 fps

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 8:53 PM

#

So that doesn't matter as much as the drop when enemies spawn

viscid prism May 19, 2020, 8:53 PM

#

😄 lets look if this helped with the nemie problem where ionly had 30 fps

#

im in a1 now

#

constant 100 fps its not dropping down so it seems to be fixed

#

a lot of thanks to you el demonio and prime

lilac geyser May 19, 2020, 8:56 PM

#

i'm glad that worked

viscid prism May 19, 2020, 8:57 PM

#

thanks ^^

lilac geyser May 19, 2020, 8:58 PM

#

everyone has said that ryzen was really sensitive to ram speeds, but i didnt really believe it could be really hurt that bad

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 9:23 PM

#

anyone know the AMD equivalent to Intel Core i7 4790K

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 9:23 PM

#

In price or performance?

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 9:23 PM

#

well both

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 9:24 PM

#

let me check and see what 4790Ks are going for on the used market...

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 9:24 PM

#

ok

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 9:25 PM

#

Like 300$ ish!

#

?*

lilac geyser May 19, 2020, 9:25 PM

#

those haswells are still selling for almost msrp on ebay

#

i have looked (4670K owner here)

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 9:26 PM

#

Lol classic intel

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 9:26 PM

#

I'm getting results at around $200ish USD

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 9:26 PM

#

I have to wonder why he wants a 4790K equivalent though

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 9:26 PM

#

At that price point you have the R5 3600.

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 9:26 PM

#

Yeah

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 9:26 PM

#

in specs it says amd equivalant to Intel Core i7 4790K

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 9:27 PM

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Ah you want to have more than that

#

But that cpu is pretty good though

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 9:27 PM

#

^

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 9:27 PM

#

I still recommend 3600 + B450

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 9:27 PM

#

ok ty

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 9:28 PM

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Honestly Muppy, with the way that AMD is basically putting a cap on the B450 chipset, I'm more inclined to recommend lower end X570 just for the upgradability factor.

#

That's probably dumb of me if I'm honest

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 9:28 PM

#

They said they’ll have zen 3 support for b450

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 9:29 PM

#

From a majority of what I saw, no? Perhaps I was looking at misinformation.

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 9:29 PM

#

If yu update the bios to support zen 3 however, you must understand that you’re never ever going to have support for an older cpu anymore

#

AMD officially announced that

#

Check their web

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 9:29 PM

#

Oh they literally just did

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 9:29 PM

#

I am still pretty lost xD I am new to pcs and have watched gtfo and have wanted to play it for a while but I am still not sure what to get even looking in the specs channel is there anyone I can dm the specs I am thinking of to see if it is good?

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 9:29 PM

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Lmao that's a twist.

lilac geyser May 19, 2020, 9:29 PM

#

punish amd by buying intel XD

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 9:29 PM

#

Lol

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 9:30 PM

#

You can post the build here Happy

#

We're all PC nerds here, and we all would be happy to help lol

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 9:30 PM

#

Mhm

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 9:30 PM

#

Processor
AMD Ryzen 5 2600

CPU Cooler
AMD Wraith Cooler

Motherboard
Asrock B450 Pro4 ATX

Memory
16GB DDR4 (1x16 or 2x8 DDR4 DIMMS)

Storage
120GB SSD + 1TB 7200RPM 3.5' SATA Hard Drive

Graphics Card
AMD Radeon RX 580

Power Supply (PSU)
500W 80+ Rated Power Supply Unit

Case
Apevia X-Mirage White

Operating System
Windows 10 Home Included

Fans
2 x Standard LED Fans

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 9:31 PM

#

Is this a custom build or a prebuilt?

#

What's the budget as well?

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 9:31 PM

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idk what you mean by that

#

budget like 600-850 ill say

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 9:31 PM

#

Are you buying these parts individually, or is this a PC already built; plug and play essentially.

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 9:32 PM

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already built

#

should I get parts?

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 9:32 PM

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That's more recommended to do that usually

#

But if they sell a prebuilt at a very good price, then that's cool

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 9:32 PM

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Prebuilts are fine, but you are paying a little bit of a premium for it being prebuilt. You can save big money building it yourself.

lilac geyser May 19, 2020, 9:33 PM

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phil: we just had a guy with a ryzen 5 2700 and 2070 getting over 100fps

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so you should get over 60fps no problem

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 9:33 PM

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ok but should I look for some parts?

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 9:33 PM

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I mean, I guess so yeahn

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If you want to build one yourself, go ahead!

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 9:33 PM

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It's like adult legos.

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 9:34 PM

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any recommendations for parts?

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 9:34 PM

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I can put together a whole parts list for ya.

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 9:34 PM

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ok ty!

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 9:34 PM

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I already have one lol

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cByJXv

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 9:35 PM

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Could you not find the 1600AF?

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Or is that one it

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 9:35 PM

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how fast would that run gtfo?

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 9:35 PM

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Not listed

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It will run like a dream pretty much

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700$

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 9:35 PM

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I would modify a few parts on that if I'm honest

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 9:35 PM

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If you are willing to pay 850$, it's possible to fit a 2070 maybe

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Yeah, I tried to get it to like 500$ before

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 9:36 PM

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GWmythicalFeelsSadMan i have some bad news... an EVGA card i want to get wont be able to fit in my current case

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so rip

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 9:36 PM

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dang

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What was the card?

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 9:36 PM

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the FTW 3 ultra

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xd

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Probably the FTW3

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called it lol

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 9:36 PM

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lol FTW3

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 9:36 PM

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its like 301mm

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That's a beautiful card

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 9:36 PM

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Why FTW3

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 9:37 PM

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cause three fans and it looks like a terminator and makes me corny with an H

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 9:37 PM

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Go with a cool gigabyte windforce 😎

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 9:37 PM

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ok tysm for helping me with this I am hoping to have enough for it by the end of the month and start playing gtfo 😄

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 9:37 PM

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i have a gigabyte card rn

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 9:37 PM

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my 2070 super windforce is a gamer

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 9:37 PM

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Why FTW3
@fleet canopy
Literally one of the best cooling cards out there

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 9:37 PM

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kek but expensive, no?

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 9:37 PM

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actually

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suprisingly i can get it for 800€

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xD

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Yea, there's a bit of brand loyalty to it, but EVGA is my go-to for GPUs.

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the gigabyte is like 750€

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The customer service is so good.

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 9:38 PM

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I'm more of a gigabyte guy p much now, but I would def go for an EVGA if I could have found an EVGA 2070 Super for a good price

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My gigabyte was 499$, MSRP lol

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 9:38 PM

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When the 1070s have thermal issues, they cross shipped me a card with better thermal pads when I originally bought my 1070 for Newegg.

No questions asked.

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@abstract kite question tho... it says the evga in europe is out of stock? do i have to pre order the new 3000 series when they will announce to even manage to get it ?

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cause on the evga.com the USA retail store.. they have some of them in stock

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 9:38 PM

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wait on the list @fleet canopy the ryzen 5 1600 I can't click on buy so I am guessing its out of stock

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 9:39 PM

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while in evga.eu they dont

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 9:39 PM

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It's not on buy because it's a custom price I put in

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It's the 14nm version, an older version

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 9:39 PM

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I can't say for why they don't have it in stock, but 3000 is basically right around the corner, so unless you desperately need to get a GPU now, I would wait.

@abstract kite

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 9:39 PM

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so just look for the ryzen 5 1060 on amazon and newegg?

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 9:40 PM

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Not just recommend, but try to at least find the 1600AF

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 9:40 PM

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no im just confused how do i even manage to buy it cause the EUROPEAN store is always out of stock xD

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 9:40 PM

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ok ty

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 9:40 PM

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like what the fuck am i supposed to do

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all i can do is choose for them to send me a notification they are in stock

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or get a card from USA

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and they will slap me 400€ extra

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and i will pay 1200€ for a 3080

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 9:40 PM

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EVGA Black Gaming 2070 SUper, 800$

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 9:40 PM

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instead of 800

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 9:40 PM

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2080 Super MSRP, 800$

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lol

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700$ ish actually

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Most stay true to near msrp

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 9:41 PM

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idk in eu its shit priced

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in eu they never stay near msrp

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Well, then the email would be your only way to get notification if they have the card in stock if that's their only option.

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atleast in my country

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Then you'd have to jump on that ASAP.

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i mean there is no way ican manage to get it

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they have automated bots

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most people

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like a chrome script

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to open the site and order

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lmao

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If you can't get one, then you might want to look at other brands.

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I don't like their customer service, but Asus is a good alternative.

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see the difference

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xd

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Is the EVGA website the only place you can acquire the card from?

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look at how fucking cheap it is in america

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holy fuck

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in croatia this would cost 900€

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which is 1000$

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 9:43 PM

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bruh cheap that's like how much my pc I am going for cost xD

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 9:43 PM

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mate

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my pc in america would cost 1200$

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while in croatia i had to pay 2200$

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 9:44 PM

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lol

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 9:44 PM

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its not even funny

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i want to cry

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so bad

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 9:44 PM

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Other countries don't even have it easy

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 9:44 PM

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i hate living in eu

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 9:44 PM

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Come to burgerland

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Or canada

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 9:44 PM

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senko what would be a good price to pay for the 1600af?

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 9:44 PM

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Around 130 USD at most

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 9:44 PM

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They're usually 85$

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 9:44 PM

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look at this fucking shit

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i cant even pre order

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 9:45 PM

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Unless they raised the price on 1600AF?

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 9:45 PM

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im probs gonna go for whole pc sell

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and buy new shit

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and go for amd

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xd

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ryzen x nvidia

lilac geyser May 19, 2020, 9:45 PM

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i guess its important that its a 1600af not a 1600?

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 9:45 PM

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1600AF = 2600

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Also should be cheaper generally too

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 9:46 PM

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@lilac geyser 1600AF is basically a 2600 is disguise.

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 9:46 PM

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Yeah its a lower binned 2600

lilac geyser May 19, 2020, 9:46 PM

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whereas regular 1600 is from year 2017

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 9:46 PM

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Essentially it’s an R5 2600 with a slight decrease in clock speed. Apparently AMD didn’t have enough 14nm wafers available to keep producing the R5 1600, so they simply shifted it to the 12nm process and now they’re making a version of the R5 2600 that they call the R5 1600.

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 9:46 PM

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Basically they branded it that because of its popularity in certain regions

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 9:46 PM

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Radeon Pro WX 4100 4GB GPU for 255$ kek

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 9:47 PM

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vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 9:47 PM

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Well yeah they ran out of 14nm, and still have plenty of 12nm from gloflo

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 9:47 PM

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look at this cuck

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selling those specs for 1800$

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Just increase the clock speed on the AF and you basically have a cheaper 2600 lol

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 9:47 PM

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They gotta use it, or else its wasted money you know

abstract kite May 19, 2020, 9:48 PM

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Yep

lament merlin May 19, 2020, 9:48 PM

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should I be looking for certain sized things when building a pc so it fits or something?

vapid crypt May 19, 2020, 9:48 PM

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Depends on what you're going for

fleet canopy May 19, 2020, 9:48 PM

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ATX is usually a lot common