#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk

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chrome heart
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My gigabyte one is 800

rapid plume
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Remove the M.2 since it’s double the price that was for me

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And use the gigabyte then

chrome heart
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Oki

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your eisbaer only goes to 360

rapid plume
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Try from here

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You can only buy this one from here

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And yes it’s out of stock atm

chrome heart
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155 euro

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i don't even know how much shipping will be

rapid plume
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Look For a PSU that’s over 750w thats titanium or platinum (titanium is better) that’s 150 euro or lower

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And look for an M.2 SSD that’s 75 euro or under

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CPU, CPU cooler, motherboard, ram, HDD, and fans are the only thing from my list you should keep on the list

chrome heart
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Silverstone ST85F-PT 850W ATX blackPSU for 155

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is platinum

rapid plume
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Add that

chrome heart
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most are gold

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ok

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crucial p1 is 79

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onf of the cheapest for 500gb i find

rapid plume
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Do you Know the difference between MVMe SSD and SATA SSD?

chrome heart
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mvme is apparently faster

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but that's it

rapid plume
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If you want to save money you should get a SATA SSD, because the one you picked out is the same speed as a SATA one and costs a lot more then a SATA one

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It’s about 20 euro more for the same thing pretty much

chrome heart
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i see

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i don't find anything cheaper than 70 in any case anyway xd

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ah w8 i can

rapid plume
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And is the 2080 SUPER for 800 euro the cheapest?

chrome heart
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790 to be precise

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yes

rapid plume
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Look for a cheaper X570 chipset motherboard

chrome heart
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found the one of msi without wifi for 20 euro cheaper

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xd

rapid plume
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Pick that

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Look for 2070 SUPER and tell me the cheap ones prices

chrome heart
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550 euro seems to be the cheapest one

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gigabyte one again

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i'll just see if i can crank my budget up

rapid plume
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Wait I’m thinking

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Look up thermal grizzly kryonaut thermal paste

chrome heart
rapid plume
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Top one

chrome heart
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ok

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13 euro yea

rapid plume
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Show me some cheap 500+gb SSDs

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Bit first

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Ryzen 7 2700x look up the price for me

chrome heart
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195

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around 120 is the cheapest 1tb ssd

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cheapest 500gb is still around 75 ish

jade ermine
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@chrome heart Get arctic AIO

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if there is correct size available

rapid plume
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There’s two routes I have for ya, one that has you loosing 20+ FPS but keeps in budge or one that will be over budget by a small bit but you’ll have to save up a bit

chrome heart
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i'll jsut take over the budget one

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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i'll save a little then

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@jade ermine which xd

rapid plume
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Ok, then all we need is a SSD and we are done

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Show me the 75 500gb one

jade ermine
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Arctic liquid freezer 2

chrome heart
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@rapid plume i just picked samsung evo 970 500gb

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it's like 100 euro

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xd

jade ermine
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Shits on corsair/nzxt/deepcool all in ones and its way cheaper

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  • comes with great fans
rapid plume
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There’s no 420mm option for that tho Unlucky

jade ermine
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360/280mm maybe instead?

rapid plume
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Case won’t properly support that

jade ermine
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also what aio's even are 420mm

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what case

rapid plume
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Plus for price point the one I have is one of the cheaper

chrome heart
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thermaltake core p5 @jade ermine

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Arctic liquid freezer 2 is actually cheaper than your icebaer

rapid plume
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adata NVMe SSD 500gb Look That up

jade ermine
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Also P5 takes 120/140mm fans so idk what you are on about compatibility

chrome heart
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yet again, yours was 420 instead of 360

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@rapid plume 92 euro

jade ermine
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Just slap 360mm arctic on it

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and you are good to go

chrome heart
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ok

rapid plume
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Are those prices in euro or USD?

chrome heart
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USD

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mayb i can change

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yea i was able to change

rapid plume
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Get the Samsung for SSD

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That look about right for price?

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And if you get a 360mm it will look like shit, the case is meant for larger rads, and you can only get a 240mm since that’s the only in stock, which is shit compared to the 420mm lmao

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He also wants RGB, that will be meaning he will need to change his fans

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There’s more to consider for AIO then Just ‘oh it’s good’

jade ermine
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its meant for custom liquid looling

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so any AIO will look rather dumb on it

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just my 2 cents

rapid plume
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It has a quick disconnect, if he ever wanted to do custom he could do it, and this is perfect because he can replace liquid should it ever be needed

chrome heart
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@rapid plume yea that's about what I have

jade ermine
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eisbaer
that pump is hot ass. Buddy of mine went through 2 of those in 1 year. SFF build.

rapid plume
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You went from putting in your 2 cents to trying to force your OPINION

jade ermine
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Atleast im not blindly recommending poor products

rapid plume
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Blind yes

jade ermine
rapid plume
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Thats why you knew rads larger then 360mm existed lmfao

jade ermine
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It's mostly just aesthetic thing lol

rapid plume
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Anyways forced opinionated comments aside, I’d say get the full list together then look around for the best prices then keep an eye on them as you save up Equinox

chrome heart
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i'll try thx 🙂

rapid plume
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Because of corona, prices are fluctuating a lot

chrome heart
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your help is very much appreciated

rapid plume
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So keep a keen eye on it

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I wish you luck on it!

chrome heart
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❤️

dense wasp
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so many fans in this new build

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it's cooling my room down 😉

chrome heart
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good

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it otherwise gets too warm in my room anyway

rapid plume
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Fans make things better! XD

chrome heart
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I'm just following you guys' recommendations

pine lion
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Question for yall, I put a build together last over facetime for a friend of mine that doesn't understand PC's by any mean's. We had it booted, benchmarked etc. Had him go into bios setting's just check everything for the first time and now the board lost the HDD, although it's displaying it on screen which doesn't make any sense. It's just missing from the boot sequence I tried everything I could think of CSM mode, Uefi settings, all of it. Still the same problem this whent on till about 2-3am and I just had to call it. Other then putting a bootable usb with window's anyone have any idea's [all conections where double/triple checked] its an ASUS 397-a <--- or something close to that.

brisk badger
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Did you, by any chance changed the AHCI option in the bios for the booting OS drive?

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I don't really understand your post but I assume the HDD is properly detected in the BIOS but the pc doesn't boot afterwards

sick reef
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Sounds like it detects the HDD but does not see it as a bootable drive.

pine lion
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^ yes, and yes the bios doesn't see the bootable drive. Although the bios display screen is showing the HDD there. Just not in a bootable squence, or even dectected as bootable.

austere oasis
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does this game support SLI?

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askign for a friend

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he has an older pc obviously, and he said the only way he could play GTFO atm is if his computer supported SLI

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i mean the game*

eternal cairn
austere oasis
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okkk

torn ferry
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Would someone be able to walk me through on how to clean a computer? I freaked out when I tried using compressed air and saw the evaporate stuff that occasionally comes out when you hold the can at the wrong angle, so I just put the panel back on and left it.

sick reef
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Well, it usually does if you're holding it upside down, but shouldn't be too big of a worry, unless it leaves a wet stain on the MB.

torn ferry
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I tried it on a case fan.

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That sits at the front panel.

sick reef
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Then you don't need to worry too much.

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What you want to get rid of primarily, is the visible dust.

pine lion
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you mean liquid nitrogen? harmless, just dont put the can upside down. It's the compressed air coming out to fast. even if it does a little will not harm any componet of your pc.

torn ferry
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Unsure if I should just replace the case fan with a new one I have or clean it.

pine lion
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new 1 if better cfm

torn ferry
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CFM?

pine lion
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cubic feet per min, basiclly how effective the motor and fan blades are.

torn ferry
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My computer is an iBuyPower prebuilt, so I assume the case fan is an inferior one?

fleet canopy
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Well prebuilts aren't cool

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As in like they like to ass out on some stuff

pine lion
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eh, depend's.

torn ferry
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I bought a prebuilt because I am too stupid to build a computer.

fleet canopy
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Give it a good clean though

sick reef
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The best tip I have for you is actually to vaccum the radiators.

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or the heatsink, if that's what you have.

pine lion
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Your not stupid, your new to understanding computer lingo, everyone was there at one point.

torn ferry
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120mm liquid AIO.

pine lion
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Water cooler.

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Like a car's radiatior system, CPU chip is the motor, the radiator is the radiator.. takes the heat from the the CPU and cool's it down before returning cooler water to the chip,

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All In one. is AIO.

sick reef
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Not fully correct but good enough.

torn ferry
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I just get really scared I'll break something if I try to clean or do anything to the computer.

pine lion
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Im being simple. You will not break anything as long as you spray the dust off everything it will only help the pc in the long run

sick reef
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Yeah

torn ferry
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Do I keep the computer upright or lay it down on a table before cleaning out dust?

sick reef
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Does not matter so long you remove the dust.

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Most important is the Radiator fins, eventual clumps of dust, and most dust on the fans.

torn ferry
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Do I have to remove the AIO to clean it?

sick reef
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No.

torn ferry
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What about the fan on the cooler?

sick reef
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If you can remove most dust from it, there's no need to remove it.

vapid crypt
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Just spray compressed air through the radiator, as long as it isn't that clogged up anything stuck in there should come out

torn ferry
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Still scared to do anything though.

brisk badger
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bring it to a local pc repair store

torn ferry
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What are the ideal temperatures for GPU and CPU?

brisk badger
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this varies from type to type and what your goal is

torn ferry
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I only intend to play games on this computer.

brisk badger
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i meant more what hardware do you have and if your goal is to have it as silent as possible or if performance matters more

torn ferry
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i7-8700k and RTX 2080.

brisk badger
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generally I would say, keep CPU under 80° and GPU maybe under 90°

torn ferry
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Right now having GTFO open, it says on Open Hardware Monitor the GPU is 66-67 degrees Celsius and for the CPU it is between 56 and 65 degrees Celsius.

brisk badger
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that's totally fine IMO

torn ferry
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Is that considered the ideal range?

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When should I be worrying about if something is wrong? 90+ degrees?

brisk badger
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yes but since you have modern PC, it will adjust the fans and make more noise once it's reaching a hotter temperature

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and in worst case, the PC will power off if it's getting too toasty

torn ferry
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I'm unsure if I need to clean it now or not, I'm sure I need to though.

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Had this PC for a year and a half now.

brisk badger
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temp wise, it probably won't matter much. however if you clean it you solve potential issues in the future, you will have fans that live longer when they are not covered in dust and generally have a good airflow

torn ferry
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I have LL120 fans that I want to put into the case, but I'm unsure if the front panel can be taken off.

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The particular prebuilt I bought is iBuyPower and uses the Slate 2 case.

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@brisk badger is 80 degrees Celsius bad for GPU temperature when running a game?

fleet canopy
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That's kind of high, but it's fine

torn ferry
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Does it need to be cleaned if it is that high?

fleet canopy
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I mean, if you haven't cleaned in some time, probably

torn ferry
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What exactly do I do when cleaning the PC? Will a can of compressed air be enough?

fleet canopy
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Yeah

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Just as they said, don't do it upside down

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The can, ofc

torn ferry
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Don't I need to pick up dust that falls inside the case?

fleet canopy
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Uhh

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You can use a vaccuum if you got that

torn ferry
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What exact vacuum do you recommend?

fleet canopy
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Any vaccuum

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Regular vaccuum will do good anyway

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Oh?

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What monitor is it

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Any resolution + refresh rate?

lilac geyser
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north: running an AD27QD, its pretty good. the blacklight bleed is kind of scary when you first turn it on, but I dont notice once an image is actually displayed. Other thing is it says its 144Hz, but i was reading something and it said that basically it can only do 120Hz

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ive been satisfied with it, but kind of disappointed about the 120Hz thing

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also, that was the very first monitor that aorus (gigabyte) ever made, they have since then released a bunch more models, probably worth looking at

fleet canopy
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Hm

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Probably will take into consideration for them

fleet canopy
late sorrel
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I have three monitors ok

fleet canopy
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Damn, couldn't afford 9?

stark plover
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Anyone wanna make a list of good vr headsets

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Perferred in order 😉

late sorrel
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lol

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nah, two are 10 years old

fleet canopy
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kek

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2 monitor is perfectly fine too, only see a need for third if you're D0c or Ludbug

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Well a third might be nice probably

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Buuuut

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Nothing's gonna use that

knotty vault
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I have a hard drive that has OEM windows on it, I upgraded my computer with a new windows 10 key I purchased myself. Can I either A. Change the OEM windows 10 key to my new one and use it in my new computer? or B. Access the OEM harddrive with my new computer?

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Any help would be appreciated, I know quite a bit about computers but this is something I haven't delt with before

fleet canopy
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"If you need to install Windows 10 Home on another computer, you need to purchase an additional license. As noted, OEM licenses do not have transfer rights. With OEM system builder licenses, there might be a bit of gray area. So, you could try your luck using chat support to reactivate"

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I guess

knotty vault
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I have purchased additional licensing

fleet canopy
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Ah

knotty vault
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But the oem hard drive is hardware specific, how do I access the HD and change it?

fleet canopy
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Oh

knotty haven
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MuppyPayo.exe is not responding

lilac geyser
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i read and reread what you said bio but i still have no idea what you are trying to do

fleet canopy
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Maybe he means to use it to install Win 10 on another PC

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But uhh

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Yeah not sure what to do with it since I'm clueless in that part

late sorrel
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I have no idea but that has done it to me playing Seige

narrow chasm
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assembling my first ever PC build soon for college work, digital games design

fleet canopy
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Nice

narrow chasm
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:))

elder spoke
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How do i reduce fps"?

eternal cairn
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In GTFO or in general?

rapid plume
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You want to reduce it?

eternal cairn
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If you mean the target framerate in GTFO, click Settings > Advanced Video and adjust Target Framerate.

torn ferry
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Is Open Hardware Monitor a safe program?

elder spoke
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@eternal cairn I did that but its still doesn't go down

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@rapid plume yeah, reduce a bit of load on gpu without taking away graphics

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just on gtfo

abstract kite
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|=

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is there an app that higher an cpu and ram of computer? |=

fleet canopy
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Hm? What do you mean by that?

abstract kite
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|=

elder spoke
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gpu going up to 80C

abstract kite
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;-; i want download generation zero but meh pc suck ;-;

fleet canopy
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Ah

elder spoke
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i notice if i reduce fps it runs cooler

abstract kite
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|=

fleet canopy
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Hm

elder spoke
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i'm currently on 140-150 fps

abstract kite
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o-o

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;-;

fleet canopy
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Does using vsync work or is that broke

abstract kite
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;-;

elder spoke
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@abstract kite i'm sorry

abstract kite
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;-;

elder spoke
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i'll cut a bit off my graphic card and send u

fleet canopy
abstract kite
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|=

fleet canopy
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Well, you can undervolt your GPU if you can

abstract kite
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no thank dud Dx

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i cant XD

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dis pc im using is from like 20 year ago XD

fleet canopy
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Ooof

elder spoke
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i found a way

abstract kite
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?

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|=

elder spoke
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nvidia settings

abstract kite
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|=

elder spoke
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hmm gtfo stopped loading after i did it

abstract kite
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|==

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i dont have nvidia O-O

abstract kite
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@abstract kite You can go into your Radeon Software by right clicking on a open part of your desktop and clicking on it. I am not sure what GPU you are running, but I assume the software is the same across the board with Adrenalin.

abstract kite
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ok thx for the information

abstract kite
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Wow, so. I can't use Wallpaper Engine and my Fan RGB's at the same time xD

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Anyone understand why?

abstract kite
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How well would a ryzen 5 1600AF rx570 8gb and 16 gb of ram run on gtfo

fleet canopy
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It'll run good

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Might not hit 60FPS too much, but you'll def be able to play it well

abstract kite
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Well later after I get the money ima upgrade to a 1080

late sorrel
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I have that but a 2600

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and it generally hovers around 60fps

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so

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you'll get 55-60 fps

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on top settings

abstract kite
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Well I also have done minor oc on the graphics card

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No oc on the cpu though no water cooling

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Also don't have a good monitor didn't have the money when I brought my other parts so I'm just using the TV currently 60 hertz doesn't do it

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Cinebench scores are actually pretty good though

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Haven't had a chance to do the heaven Benchmark yet but that's what I'm going to be doing tonight

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2491 on cinebench

fleet canopy
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Well depending on the resolution of the TV, you probably can run it

vapid crypt
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I get 80 - 90 with an R5 2600 and RX 580, perhaps drops when enemy waves spawn

elder spoke
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does anyone know a way to limit your fps in gtfo.. I've tried using the fps slide in video settings but it doesn't work

vapid crypt
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You could turn on V-sync in the settings, that limits the framerate to the refresh rate of the display you're using

abstract kite
elder spoke
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@vapid crypt thank you, I'll try that

void perch
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does anyone know a way to limit your fps in gtfo.. I've tried using the fps slide in video settings but it doesn't work
@elder spoke Can you DM me a dxdiag. Trying to see if it's hardware related as testing we've done shoes limiting the frames does work

abstract kite
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are the high FPS causing you to get high temps?

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i'd set a fan curve too

elder spoke
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I had to turn off vsync in order for it to work

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fps is now limited

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thanks for your help guys

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and u @vapid crypt

fleet canopy
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Hm

abstract kite
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Hey guys. Looking for good 150mm fans

fleet canopy
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A random video

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Why 150mm?

abstract kite
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My dad needs them for his PC.

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His temps hit 78c+

elder spoke
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Search linus tech tips on youtube @abstract kite

abstract kite
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...

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Is Linus Tech Tips a 150mm Fan?

elder spoke
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it informs you which brand of fans are actually worth it

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from there you do your search for 150mm fans in that brand

fleet canopy
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Linus indeed is a 150mm fan

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Just go onto stores and find some 150mm fans pretty much

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Because I'm sure to hell it'll be a great thing if you manage to actually find it

abstract kite
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annoyed

fleet canopy
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:)

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Or somehow fit a 140mm

abstract kite
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You're not really helping..

fleet canopy
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You don't exactly need all 4 screws on a fan to keep it there

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Two can hold it in perfectly fine I guess, so you could actually manage to fit in a 140mm fan

fallow trail
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guys

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i need help

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I uninstalled and installed the driver, reset. Nothing helps

brisk badger
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I do not speak spanish

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This may sound stupid, but what's the difference between vsync and limiting the frames?

fallow trail
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@brisk badger Can u help me?

brisk badger
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not really as I cannot even paste the letters into a translator

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reinstalling the sound driver may help

abstract kite
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limiting the frames is fluid

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you can limit the frame rate to be higher than your monitor refresh rate

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however vsync locks the framerate to the monitor refresh rate

brisk badger
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yes but when you limit the framerate, wouldn't you optimally limit to the refreshrate of the monitor?

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like myself for example, I always limit to 144. Will there be some sort of delay with limiting frames?

abstract kite
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not really

brisk badger
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i never really read much about vsync but people say it adds a delay

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*delay in frametimes

abstract kite
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you wont see anything above FPS but for competitive games even if ur fps is higher than the refresh rate you will have an advantage

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because higher FPS always gives better frame times

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my monitor is 144 but i usually set the frame limit to 170

brisk badger
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okay I see

abstract kite
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no screen tearing but better frametimes

brisk badger
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i need to look deeper into frametimes and find a small app that can display me this info easily

abstract kite
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i think vsync does add a delay vs regular frame locks

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its like a 15 millisecond delay

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i think

brisk badger
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i think you are right when it's 60hz

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not sure if it's the same when it's higher

abstract kite
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frametimes definitely get lower with higher FPS

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i have the afterburner stats and when i get 200 fps the frametime is definitely lower than 144

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yep 300 fps is about 3 milliseconds, 144 is around 7 milliseconds

brisk badger
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yea I just don't want to install afterburner again because only of this info.
I used to have big problems with afterburner always resetting my undervolted settings after a reboot. So I completely ditched it

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yea make sense. thanks for the help 👍

abstract kite
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no problem

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what problem is @fallow trail having?

fallow trail
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@abstract kite That's how the sound in my laptop stopped working. Neither on headphones nor without it works. I tried to update the drivers, uninstalled and installed the drivers, but without success. Not even a test can't be done

fleet canopy
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"The only real difference is whether or not your hardware can handle it. If you're getting FPS significantly above your monitor's refresh rate, capping is the way to go because there is no point in pushing more frames. If your FPS dips below your monitor's native refresh rate, V-Sync is what you want because it smooths out tearing from those drops and locking to a higher refresh rate than your hardware can handle is meaningless.

If you don't see any screen tearing regardless, then neither really matters." @brisk badger

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Actually no scratch that

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"Locking fps does practically nothing to help screen tearing.

Screen tearing occurs because your monitor and GPU frames are out of sync (then the name V-Sync/G-Sync/Free Sync). Your gpu is still sending the frame and the monitor is displaying it. Meaning you get maybe the top half of one frame and the bottom half of the old one.

PS: This is a very simplified explanation. A guy on the comments here have made a much better and complex one."

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Could always try that out and see for yourself

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So what I can assume is that vsync basically makes sure the GPU renders at the right time so it looks clear and good

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And locking FPS is just like, limiting the power on it

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Locking FPS would just make it do the desired FPS, but not as well as vsync and shows slight tears I guess

vapid crypt
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I was playing The Surge 2 recently, since its on game pass I guess radeon software has problems detecting some of the games on there so it doesn't work with freesync. So I get tearing around the center on the screen a lot of the time, and the performance kind of suffers with v-sync on I think.

fleet canopy
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Yeah, it's always been something with AMD that it didn't do too well

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Or at least when the 5700/XT came out

vapid crypt
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What?

fleet canopy
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When AMD released the 5700XT, drivers obviously sucked. One of the problems I've heard if I remember right, was that it sometimes had screen tearing even with freesync/using vsync wasn't always very good

late sorrel
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yeah I know what you mean with that

merry bay
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Also humans are really good at getting used to consistency.
However big/small it might be. If your lag is consistently one value, you'll get used to it and adjust accordingly.
If your lag is sporadic, there's too much variance to properly adjust.

sick reef
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Locking frames can improve frame times which can reduce tearing. V-sync is practically a brute force way to force sync, because the front buffer waits for the back buffer to finish rendering before it pulls the frame from it.

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Regardless of how long it takes the back buffer to render a frame.

river sleet
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guys! vodka vodka

abstract kite
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I agree

fleet canopy
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Linus is amazing at not dropping nothing

dusk spire
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how to play with friend?

fleet canopy
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?t lfg

rugged notchBOT
fleet canopy
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Linus epic gamer Yes this is a PC video, you cannot even remove this >:((((

dusk spire
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hi the friend option is not in the main menu can you help me find it

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?

woeful merlin
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@dusk spire press shift and tab. it will bring up your steam friends list

dense raft
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Hey I got a question my pc wont turn on but

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The bios on the mother board is on

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I'm for sure it's getting power but it wont post

snow rain
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i got a question guys my laptop (acer nitro 5 1050ti i5 8300h) was thermal throttling so i undrvolted the cpu to -0.160 but while gaming it still thermal throttles. So what could it be

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quick reply would be apreciated

olive hinge
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thermal paste

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dusty fan

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clean it essentially

fleet canopy
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It could be dust, yeah

olive hinge
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let me be more clear, replace the thermal paste with a new one, meaning disassemble the laptop use isopropyl alcohol for the thermal paste to clean it and apply a new one(both gpu and cpu), use some air can pressure to remove the dust from the fans and maybe even use a toothbrush with some alcohol to clean the fins in the cooler and you should be set

brisk badger
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placing a book under the notebook so it can suck air better 👌

fleet canopy
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Haha

olive hinge
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the good old trick

brisk badger
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it's kinda sad. modern notebooks have sometimes great hardware but are just hindered by the thermal solution. it's my main reason I would not want to play on a notebook

fleet canopy
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Always the thermals are usually the first thing to get concerned about with each and every laptop

abstract kite
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I've found that laptop cooling pads can help for a temporary fix. Usually takes the temps down.

olive hinge
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cooling pads can put more dust into you laptop

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i dont trust them lmao

fleet canopy
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Just put laptop in really cold water lol it's that easy

olive hinge
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linus

fleet canopy
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line us

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"Put motherboard in dishwasher"

olive hinge
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we need more chonky gaming laptops this year

fleet canopy
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We need a good gaming laptop that's not cursed by thermals

olive hinge
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thats why they need to be chonky

fleet canopy
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There is one that does have the ability to move keyboard back, revealing two fans underneath it kek

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You could get close to performance of a really good laptop if you can manage to do what AMD does

olive hinge
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so they have bigger coolers more room to breath

fleet canopy
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They have newer manufacturing at least

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So it supposedly performs cooler if they get the die smaller if I'm correct

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Well probably not the die in it

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But yeah

olive hinge
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better architecture so its more efficient, kind of like the new revision of the nintendo switch

fleet canopy
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kek

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The new revision of Linus

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Looks like a fucking chad

olive hinge
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beard

fleet canopy
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Course we all love his babyface linus one

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But damn I'd be lying if I said he wasn't FUCKING good-looking

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Kind of looks like my step brother, got the beard at least, looks young enough but hair isn't really close

molten tundra
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Idk, personally I really like linus' beard. I think he looks better with it. Without it, he looks like the nerdy awkward kid in highschool whose only friends is the systems he builds, whereas with the beard, he's actually goodlooking. XD

fleet canopy
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Haha

molten tundra
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But yeah, I agree with the laptop thermals thing. I had an old one, not even a gaming laptop, it ran the igpu, but even that thing had a bad habit of overheating. I spilled a rye and coke near it one day, cleaned it up as fast as possible, but some got under the thing and friggin' caramelized, gluing the laptop to my desk. Laptop thermals are brutal.

finite violet
abstract kite
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Well think of the Rye and Coke mixture as Thermal Paste 😆

molten tundra
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Oh gods, that would be brutal for temps! XD

split swift
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Does anyone know the difference between and external port for a GPU and an external environment for a GPU?

covert veldt
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Both sound like fancy names for the same thing.

patent kite
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"cpu culling workload" - is it for computers with a weak graphics card??🤓

vapid crypt
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Kind of, it allows the CPU to be utilized more or less depending how you set it

abstract kite
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GTC 2020 is happened soon fellas

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Potential talk of Ampere perhaps?

vapid crypt
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Def

abstract kite
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Super excited

vapid crypt
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Well at least talk of the next architecture

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Their next Tesla card or whatever

abstract kite
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I'm also interested in what AMD is going to have with Big Navi. Haven't heard more than rumors about that and Lisa saying we'll see it this year.

vapid crypt
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All I know about that is they have 3 gpus of different sizes

abstract kite
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Interesting

vapid crypt
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240mm, 360mm and 505mm

abstract kite
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505mm jesus christ

vapid crypt
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A clear increase from the first generation of Navi

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Which 241mm was the largest gpu they made for that

abstract kite
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Please tell me there's Radeon VII successor with somewhere around 16GB

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That's probably too much to ask for isn't it.

vapid crypt
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Well it will be an RDNA sucessor

late sorrel
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I’d like a radeon 7 remake

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but more along the lines of a 2080 power

vapid crypt
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Uh it was already there

late sorrel
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didn’t it have heat issues and a bunch of other stuff?

abstract kite
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If I had found the Radeon VII when it was available I would have bought that immediately. That amount of VRAM is so enticing to me for machine learning.

vapid crypt
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The Radeon 7 was basically on par with the 2080

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Its why it was priced the same

abstract kite
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A lot of the issues were fixed in later driver updates Tinted.

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It dropped to around $550 before it died off.

late sorrel
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oh shit they fixed it?

vapid crypt
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Its a cut down instinct card, I don't know if they will be doing that again

abstract kite
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Call me plain, but the shroud design of that card was one of the most attractive designs I've seen in a long time.

I don't care for all these angular GaMeR cards

vapid crypt
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Shame the cooling wasn't great

late sorrel
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yeah now I’m interested in that

vapid crypt
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But I mean 295w its gonna be hot regardless

abstract kite
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That's true

late sorrel
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yeah

abstract kite
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Still

late sorrel
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I just knew it super sucked at launch

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wasn’t aware they fixed the issues

abstract kite
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It still was a bit of a toaster, but the noise issue was fixed

vapid crypt
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Yeah it had cooling issues among other things, I don't know if they were pushing the voltages too high or something

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That's somewhat of a double edge sword that Radeon seems to practice, overvolting the silicon to increase yields

abstract kite
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I want to say that there was a leak of a "3080" having 10GB of Vram. Non "ti" version.

vapid crypt
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Yeah I heard about leaks yesterday

abstract kite
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It was pretty confusing I'll admit.

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Showed 10/20GB for what I want to say was GA101

and 8/16GB for GA102

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or something like that

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Secondary numbers could possibly be for Quadro cards.

vapid crypt
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Those are old leaks I think

knotty haven
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y ayyet

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ya yeet*

vapid crypt
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Cause there's a 103 die, which people are thinking is the 80 card

knotty haven
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gonna steal the r9

vapid crypt
abstract kite
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Well, we should have an idea by the 14th I'd think

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Holy- a 3060 will potentially be around the level of a 2080ti?

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Are we sure about this?

vapid crypt
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That's based on the data shown, really an estimate and that's at ray tracing mind you

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Not overall performance

knotty haven
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then it will ocst around 2080 too

abstract kite
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Yea... I was thinking that was rather advantageous.

knotty haven
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tbh 1080 is still top if you dont want RTX iirc

vapid crypt
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Which would mean assuming the prices are retained from turing it would make RTX far more viable since it will be more affordable

knotty haven
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lol of topic but i saw someone saying the i5 is better then the r9 3900x

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i loled

vapid crypt
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Userbenchmark user

abstract kite
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Possibly more affordable. I really should aspire to get at least a 3070, but extra VRAM is enticing..

fleet canopy
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Hm

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Just mad AyyMD win core

abstract kite
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I'm probably putting way too much stock in VRAM capacity lol

vapid crypt
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I think it might be necessary to think about getting a bit more VRAM for the upcoming generation of games

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Depends on resolution mainly of course

abstract kite
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I'm still playing on 1080p as I don't have a reason to upgrade just yet. I'm looking at higher end cards for pen testing and password encryption/decryption software

vapid crypt
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Yeah I don't really think I'll be upgrading from 1080 either, I got two good monitors so why bother

fleet canopy
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There are indeed games that users or developers say you need like more than 11/12GB

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Like there's this game called SubSim X or whatever

vapid crypt
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That's at like 4k though right?

fleet canopy
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Back then, couldn't run at all

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Now it's saying like

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Needs a 16GB VRAM

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Fucking wild

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But that's only one game

vapid crypt
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Like one game I can think of that can use easily 10gb is Shadow of the Tomb Raider at 4k

fleet canopy
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But that big requirement is something I hope we can afford to get tbh

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GTA can use up more than 11GB I think?

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There was this graphics option which taaaaanked on my GPU

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And really added to the VRAM by miles

vapid crypt
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If the flagship card doesn't have 16gb I wouldn't be surprised, cause anything to save a dime at Novideo

fleet canopy
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At least 14GB is fair

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12GB is a fat joke too

vapid crypt
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12GB would be too late, they were already doing 11GB since the 1080ti

abstract kite
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Here's a slightly off topic question that still does somewhat pertain to the conversation. When's the possible time that we will see custom PCBs for these cards? Assuming the reference cards ship around August/September, we might see the custom PCBs around November, yes?

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^ yep

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It's a far fetched question for sure

fleet canopy
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It's best they just do 14GB, and plus, they're doing like

abstract kite
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But interesting to speculate

fleet canopy
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7nm now? or 4?

vapid crypt
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The board partners don't usually take that long with Nvidia so probably within a couple months

abstract kite
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Yep.

vapid crypt
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I heard they were using Samsungs 8nm at one point

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Which is marketing again, its actually just their refined 10nm

fleet canopy
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I'll probably get one of those, perhaps the 3080 Ti if I don't care

late sorrel
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imagine not having 4GB of ram

abstract kite
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I think 7nm actually...? That's what I think I head, but could be 8nm as you said

late sorrel
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this post was made by 570 gang

vapid crypt
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TSMC's 7nm is largely going to AMD and Apple

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So eh I dunno

abstract kite
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Apparently according to them using Samsungs whatever-nm, production costs would be cheaper(?).

Rumors are rumors though.

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Take 'em with a grain of salt

vapid crypt
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Oh yeah the video I posted mentions the use of Samsung's 8nm

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Likely for the gaming cards

abstract kite
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Yea.

knotty haven
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intel just droped there 10th series

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oh shit

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the i9 10k is not that bad

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only diff is r9 is fucking 60 bucks cheaper and has a extra core

vapid crypt
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2 extra cores right?

knotty haven
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yuh

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and 4 threads extra

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and its $60 cheaper

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It just shows how greedy intel has become

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i mean great. there catching up, but why that price

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14nm

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intel chould be on top if they wherent so damn greedy, just stop making 14nm and make the fucking chip cheaper,

vapid crypt
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So there's a couple reasons AMD's CPUs are generally cheaper: 1. Until recently they weren't market leaders and 2. They have an extremely efficient way of segmenting their products using chiplets which is really easy and cheap to do, and even makes yields far better. Intel has been stuck on the same process for 5 years, they've had trouble refining a new process/architecture and they of course still use the usual monolothic die approach for their processors. So yields for these kinds of processors aren't as good. Now technically speaking they are absolutely greedy, I'm pretty sure it costs no more than a couple hundred bucks to produce that i9; maybe a bit more. Its a bit more nuanced than that, though ultimately since they've been market leaders for so long even if it isn't really the case now; their brand certainly carries weight that they can afford to ask for more than they really should be. To be honest I'm not entirely sure what Intel is thinking with this, but Alder Lake next year should be more interesting.

lilac geyser
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thanks professor

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one of gamers nexus' recent videos seems to draw the conclusion that intel has only been putting minimal innovation into thier series since the i7-2600 sandy bridge days

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those sandy bridges overclocked like a beast, the newer products dont

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so intel has been selling stuff just closer to their true potential, making it look like innovation

fleet canopy
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Probably cause they're kind of getting close to how much the 14nm can do

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Now with much better coolers, sure

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But that's like

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Overkill at this point

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A huge joke

lilac geyser
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i dont care who makes it as long as its faster and cheaper

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so i hope intel comes back and crushes amd, and then amd does it again

fleet canopy
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Well you have a 3700X which is twice as better as a 7700K by overall specs like core count, blah blah

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Not by performance probably idk

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But soon enough smaller core count won't really factor in for too much I guess

solemn orchid
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Got my soon-to-be server up and running

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Rescued a lovely i7-5820k

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And the mobo

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LGA-2011v3

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Of course some corsair vengeance quad channel DDR4

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And I got all of this shit (plus the corsair aio and case) for FREE

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I had to buy a new PSU for it, but that's about it

fleet canopy
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Corsair epiccc 😎

solemn orchid
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Ohh plus I also threw my old 580 in there

fleet canopy
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kek

solemn orchid
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jesus christ quad channel ram is so FAST

late sorrel
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nice

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what you gunna do with it?

solemn orchid
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This is my first experience with server building, so probably I'll just use it for file hosting plus a minecraft server or something

late sorrel
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ah

lilac geyser
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are you colocating it?

solemn orchid
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not yet

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does it even have enough power to warrant doing so?

lilac geyser
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if the colo services provide value to you, yes

solemn orchid
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oh wow

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alright

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what I really need more of is storage space

fleet canopy
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Steal your neighbor's drives

lilac geyser
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i just got an idea, but I can't be the first to have thought of this

fleet canopy
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Yeah?

lilac geyser
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ok yeah, i wasnt the first so i guess i can tell you

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has anyone actually calcuated the full size of dns tables

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its got to be yuuuuge

strange sapphire
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Hey, guys. Could i technically use a PC SSD like a USB storage device (for backups, etc.) like you could with a spinning HDD?

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primarily for backing my OS drive up

lilac geyser
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sure

strange sapphire
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@lilac geyser thanks buddy

abstract kite
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They make dedicated bays for that too

lilac geyser
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i personally use 100MB zip disks for all my backups

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

strange sapphire
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Yeah! I saw a couple by Sebrent or whatever, but didnt know how good the y are

lilac geyser
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woah wtf discord

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i meant to type /s

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but crappy discord autocompleted some bs when i typed that

strange sapphire
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I have a HDD bay (non-NAS), so I assumed they are made for SSDs as well

abstract kite
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Most ssds are 2.5 rather than 3.5, but you can get a converter

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you mean on your pc or?

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separate

fleet canopy
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/s h r u g

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:)

abstract kite
lilac geyser
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my computer has never (and will never) emit that monstrostiy of unicode

abstract kite
lilac geyser
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kramer, im confused by your initial question, you seem to acknowlege that spinning drives will work for your task, but you wern't sure if SSDs were up to the task?

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what are you actually asking

merry bay
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Probably just uncertain if SSD's are okay for long term storage

shrewd otter
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At first, no but with how the tech has progressed recently they last around as long as a HDD if you get a decent one.

patent kite
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GTFO fps lock on 60?

void perch
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probably vsync

abstract kite
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Question... is there any news on Z390 boards supporting DDR5?

fleet canopy
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DDR5 could be possible if we ever get DDR5 RAM lol

abstract kite
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i mean will Z390 boards support it?

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or will i have to get new boards

fleet canopy
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We won't have it because we don't have it

abstract kite
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I mean how does ram work

fleet canopy
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And DDR4 goes with DDR4

late sorrel
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Z390 is what

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this gen?

abstract kite
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yea

fleet canopy
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DDR3 doesn't go with DDR4

late sorrel
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it won’t if it is

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yeah, we won’t

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there’s a slot on the bottom part of the ram that determines what kind of ram can go in what kind of slot

abstract kite
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ffs so i have to get new mobo for new ram

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oh for fuck sake

fleet canopy
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Yeah

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But it's not really necessary

abstract kite
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whatchu meann not necessary

fleet canopy
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Because if they just came out

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You can still get better DDR4 RAM than DDR5 lol

abstract kite
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i mean i still plan to get 32/3600mhz

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but i want to get ddr5 6400mhz

regal laurel
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And why that?

abstract kite
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idk faster speed = faster overall performance

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i guess

regal laurel
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ram speed increases are hardly going to be noticible

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You're going to see higher benefits from the newer CPUs

abstract kite
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well im on 9900k and plan to stay on it for 5 yrs

regal laurel
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Then RAM speed won't be the only thing you're gonna be lacking in 5 years

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regarding ddr5

abstract kite
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welp in 5 yrs i plan to just work on my study to be a bioengineer

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so i wont probably be into gaming and shit anymore

regal laurel
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Ryzen 4000s X670? might support it, not heard anything like that yet. Intel Z490 won't, only pcie 4.0

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either way the CPU must support it

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not just the chipset

abstract kite
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ok so yeah i should just sell my current pc and get ryzen xD

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welp

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oh well i need a new case aswell

regal laurel
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Then get some cool RGB tempered glass case, adds +10% ram performance afaik

abstract kite
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GWatproHyperPoggers 👌

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getting that corsair obsidian

fleet canopy
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We're not going to even see good speeds for DDR5 until like

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Way later

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Just gotta have some work on it

abstract kite
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its been 4 yrs since its been announced

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that its coming

fleet canopy
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Hm

abstract kite
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hm wot it says in 2017 it was announced that it should be released at 2019

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and latest rumors have it it should come this yr 2020

fleet canopy
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kek

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If they do come

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I guess it'll be AMD using it first

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Since Intel still doesn't have anything on it

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And plus I heard the 10th gen just dropped

abstract kite
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shintel

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oh no no no

fleet canopy
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5.3GHz, uhhh

abstract kite
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tbh i reach 5.1 ghz with my 9900k

fleet canopy
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All are hyperthreading so no 4c/4t or 8c/8t anymore

abstract kite
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its nth special?

fleet canopy
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Well I guess not? But boost clocks are good for gaming sooooo

abstract kite
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i see 0% XD except maybe faster loading times on pc

fleet canopy
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GamerNexus talked about the specs of the CPU, but nothing really much good atm

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Since not actual product

abstract kite
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im deff going for ryzen

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intel is still on 14nm

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disgusting

fleet canopy
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lol

abstract kite
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and ryzen gives better price for like more cores/threads

fleet canopy
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Yeah

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3900X vs a 10900K kek

abstract kite
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GWcorbinTopKek look at the price

fleet canopy
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450$ CPU vs 500$

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Unless it was like

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The 9900K

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But that dropped

abstract kite
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actually lemme check that right away for ya for me on my european site

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xD

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okay

fleet canopy
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lol who cares about other currency

abstract kite
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in croatia i can get it for

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500$ the 3900x

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lets see 10900k

fleet canopy
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That's neat

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450$ CPU

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Soooo

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50$ more

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Or whatever more

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10900K I bet

abstract kite
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not there yet

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oh well unfortunate

fleet canopy
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Will be like a 550-600$?

abstract kite
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probably

fleet canopy
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640$

abstract kite
#

im noticing 100$ increase price for 9900k

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xd

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i got it for 420$

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XD

fleet canopy
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lol

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Wasted weed number on see pee yuu

abstract kite
#

xD

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true

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i just know my wallet will cry soon

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T_T

fleet canopy
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Neat price for a big ass priced CPU

abstract kite
#

i mean ryzen 3900x is gg

fleet canopy
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Knowing it used to be 500$ ofc

abstract kite
#

xd

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im hoping 3080 will cost me about 700$

fleet canopy
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Yeah shouldn't be very different really

abstract kite
#

im actually excited for seeing the fps difference XD

fleet canopy
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Kind of just slightly lower the RTX 2000 lineup prices, ish

abstract kite
#

from my 1070

fleet canopy
#

It's supposed to be some pretty good difference from 2080 compared to 3080

abstract kite
#

and coming from 1070

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oh boy

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xx

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XD

fleet canopy
#

kek

abstract kite
#

time to play MC with ray tracing

fleet canopy
#

1FPS difference

abstract kite
#

true LUL

fleet canopy
#

lol minecraft raytracing

abstract kite
fleet canopy
#

I now notice that my cursor seems to be stuttering as well as literally anything if I load up anything like Task manager, etc

abstract kite
abstract kite
#

I am interested in getting the next gen GPUs, but I have to wonder all the problems their gonna have.

merry bay
#

@abstract kite Best bet for seeing DDR5 for AMD is 2022. They showed their own internal roadmap, not just some random leak.
But that's not really an announcement, just a rough plan.

abstract kite
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what the fk only yet in 2022

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XD

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lmfao

merry bay
#

I wouldn't want to be an early adopter anyway. Real gains come after they get to work on it a little more.

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First year of DDR4 wasn't a must buy either

fleet canopy
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Exactly

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Not even worth to invest into DDR5

abstract kite
#

So all new gen stuff isn't worth immediate buy?

fleet canopy
#

Don't you remember first year of DDR4?

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I'm sure you've been with PCs longer than DDR4

abstract kite
#

No..

fleet canopy
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Oh

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What Hapcher said is basically what we will just expect at this point

abstract kite
#

I've been running DDr3 for the longest time.

fleet canopy
#

Ah

sick reef
#

What we need is better fundamental PCH setup

fleet canopy
#

PCH?

sick reef
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The part of the CPU dedicated to I/O and SATA.

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and USB

lilac geyser
#

its coming, everything is moving to pci

obsidian bobcat
tardy tinsel
#

gfuel

lilac geyser
#

and pills

tardy tinsel
#

thats big mouse pad

lilac geyser
#

fucking razer peripherals...

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i bought a razer keyboard and installed their rgb software

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it wouldnt let me do anything until a created an account with razer

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i put it back in the box and returned it the next day

fleet canopy
#

Hahaha

obsidian bobcat
#

ive had this keyboard for like 5 years lmao

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i wanna get a new one but im broke and lazy

sick reef
#

Yeah. I got a razer keyboard that was half-off and Synapse is not something I'm installing.

fleet canopy
#

Who's gonna even install anything to use a keyboard/mouse

lilac geyser
#

i think it would have worked as a keyboard, but couldnt have controlled the backlight, or the programmable keys

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ive literally been waiting 10 years for something like that for the optimus keyboard to be affordable

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it started as $1000, which i understand for a low volume first generation product

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each key had a programmable lcd screen, who doesnt want that kind of customization

sick reef
#

I can appreciate that, but not what the image suggests.

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You can't adjust the RGB without installing, and keeping, the software installed.

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And it keeps reminding me, because I have a spare mouse for when I lie in my sofa, watching videos, so when I plug it in, it tries to install the software, and I'm at the point where I'm about to stop mice from autochecking for software.

obsidian bobcat
#

I just installed it cuz it doesn’t bother me

fleet canopy
#

Hold up

#

Why not just sell the PC and build a computer?

#

It's more easier than dealing with Alienware

#

The PC with problems?

#

lol their PC is just

#

It's way too overkill

#

Overpriced

vapid crypt
#

Origin is not a great SI choice, they mark up the price way too much

fleet canopy
#

The parts could easily be compared to others

#

Yeah

vapid crypt
#

I think NZXT's BLD would be a better choice

fleet canopy
#

If you are looking to spend that sort of money, you can get a 2080 Ti and a 3900X/10900K

vapid crypt
#

Wonderful, what are you gonna do with it?

fleet canopy
#

Hah

vapid crypt
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Don't spend 6 grand for that phaWesker

fleet canopy
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You might as well settle for just a 1080 Ti or a 2080 Ti and a 10700K

vapid crypt
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You can spend a third that, hell less than a third and do the same thing for years to come

fleet canopy
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It's just not worth it my man

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Just get a PC list and build it, buy a PS5 and switch for way cheaper

vapid crypt
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I saw this Timmy Joe video today where he looked at a 11 year old PC that cost someone over 4 grand back then

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This is 4 grand canadian albeit

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And the mentality of the individual was to have a pc that last 10 years, but the reality is it certainly didn't last

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He ended up upgrading the graphics card half way anyway

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GTX 295, not even DX 11

fleet canopy
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We're gonna be getting the 10th gen, possibly the next AMD lineup, and a 3080 Ti that performs waaaay better than the Orange Hole of Overpriced Crap

vapid crypt
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The Green thing? You need to be more specific, there's a lot of green circuit board there phaWesker

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But I assume you mean the graphics card, since it has a green pcb

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Which is normal for it to get hot when under a game load

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Hang on this is a fairly recent pc right?

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Cause that's an RTX card

fleet canopy
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Oh?

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Oh yeah

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2060

vapid crypt
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The shrowd says RTX, its one of those cheapo OEM blower models

fleet canopy
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Something like that

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Ah yeah I see that

vapid crypt
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Single 8 pin

fleet canopy
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That's why

vapid crypt
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What is that a 2070 or something?

fleet canopy
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2060

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It's not one of those double fan ones, so yeah

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They were kind of okay with the whole PC, just bad parts overall by what they specifically picked

vapid crypt
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2070/2060 the only difference really is 4 SMs and 2gb of VRAM PirateSimon

fleet canopy
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I will just assume he'd be in the US lmao

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And I

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Forget the fans

vapid crypt
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64gb of RAM for a 9900k ConfusedUlf

fleet canopy
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Who doesn't want 64GB?

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Here's just 2x16

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And some fans

vapid crypt
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NVlinked 2080tis that will age wonderfully I'm sure

fleet canopy
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Indeed

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Wait for the RTX 3080 Ti, it'll age for a good long time

vapid crypt
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Sorry I forgot the /s tag phaSip

fleet canopy
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Kek

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Of course if you don't do anything stupid or it doesn't decide to commit die on you

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But overall yeah, not too bad

abstract kite
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@fleet canopy 6K and not even a Threadripper. 🤔

obsidian bobcat
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my 2060 Super runs the game perfectly

fleet canopy
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Arg you want to be like that? Fine

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@abstract kite GWnekomakiAngeryBOYE

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I like how they call a 43" a monitor

fleet canopy
spring sapphire
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So I have a 5 year old gaming laptop with a 970, gpu. all settings are lowest and my resolution is 600x700 range. I get around 40-50 fps. Is there any way to reduce even more settings? like particles?

rapid plume
solemn orchid
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nah, it's fine here

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@spring sapphire Not a whole lot you can do, but there's always the option to set it to high priority in the task manager

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to squeeze those last couple frames out

rapid plume
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And tho it may look odd lowering FOV will help a tiny bit

spring sapphire
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@solemn orchid ive done that aswell

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@rapid plume oh wow reducing FOV helped a lot. Thanks!!

rapid plume
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Not an issue, just sorry about how it looks in game now lol

abstract kite
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this is gorgeous

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i wonder how this looks in 4k

tardy tinsel
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what game?

vapid crypt
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Metro Exodus right?

clear marten
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Thats Call of Duty MW2

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If I remember corrrectly

abstract kite
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xd mw2 remaster

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am i rite looks as exodus

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😂

vapid crypt
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Oh I didn't recognize it phaWesker

abstract kite
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Hahahah

vapid crypt
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I played MW2 on ps3 9 years ago

abstract kite
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That game needs Raytracing.

fleet canopy
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Totally

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Unless it's already added since MW already has it

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Funny how if I have it off, I see a fuckton of pixels, and if I turn it on, it's gone

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Weird how ray tracing works but eh

late sorrel
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i'd love remakes for a bunch of old games

fleet canopy
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They give you the highest anti-aliasing when using ray tracing so it's kind of obvious

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Apparently MW2 does have the ray tracing feature @abstract kite

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Coffee has a 1070 or the 1070 Ti at the moment so I guess that's a factor

fleet canopy
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The only thing I have to say about ray tracing in MW is that it's kind of damn near useless

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If you can see details pretty damn accurately, then sure

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But overall MW is already too damn good with shadows for it to be necessary

solemn orchid
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@abstract kite

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I've been playing it at 4k

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it looks amazing

abstract kite
rapid plume
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Bruh

proper wren
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Bone conduction @_@

abstract kite
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I hope they remake Battlefield 3 and 4

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cant believe the game ran smooth af when it being remastered xd

fleet canopy
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Uhhh

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What @proper wren

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Bone conduction headphones?

fleet canopy
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Ah, yes

proper wren
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very popular at my area of Canada

fleet canopy
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Oh?

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Seems pretty neat, recently looked it up

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I was actually hoping it'd be some sort of cure for me when I do gaming but ehh

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Poor me

vapid crypt
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In what way?

abstract kite
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How did it break..?

abstract kite
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Pics?

rapid plume
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Boi

proper wren
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Companies don't cover physical damages unless opened out of the box

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but it should be fine to replace the power cord since they're easy to replace

rapid plume
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^^^

proper wren
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I highly doubt that they would replace your pc all because of a ripped or snapped off cable

rapid plume
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Ah, then yea look to the warranty

proper wren
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If the warranty is up to date still the technician will take it in to inspect

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They will do hardware diagnostics and stress tests to find the fault. Once the fault is found then the technician has the choice to replace the component or hardware. If that doesn't resolve the issue and is brought back to the store 2-3 more times. The tech informs the manager and the manager can do the exchange or credit

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Every technician usually has to follow a chain of command line and give proper procedures unfortunately instead of replace pc for new pc lol

rapid plume
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Unless you’re me then you just try to see what’s the issue and tell you to buy new shit XD

proper wren
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I bet that gpu in your pic is a blower style card lol

proper wren
rapid plume
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You have a price range for it?

proper wren
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Depends

rapid plume
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On?

proper wren
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Upgrade pathing, needs/wants, etc

rapid plume
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Ah

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So it’s a modest build not what I would design XD

proper wren
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your use case is gtfo and netflix lol

rapid plume
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I would say tho RTX Titan May be worth it since you’d be doing presumably a lot of 4K Video editing

proper wren
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no

rapid plume
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And my use case is a lot more then that, I just go extreme

proper wren
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you will barely notice the difference

rapid plume
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My point is for 4K video editing not gaming

proper wren
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like the titan is good for rendering and such but you're better off getting 2 2080tis than a single titan gpu

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That's what I'm saying lol

rapid plume
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98% of the time 2 2080 Tis would never be worth it since support for that is so slim XD

proper wren
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RTX Titan has less support lol

rapid plume
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Since it’s for workloads more then gaming

late sorrel
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yeah just get two 2080Ti’s

proper wren
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the only time I would get a titan is if I have to do 8k video rendering OR just get a quadro 8000 and call it a day

late sorrel
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^^ yeah just get a quadro

brisk badger
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I am jealous of all those video editors and those who need beefy pc's for their jobs. For my job they give me cheap stuff with integrated gpu's 😢

fleet canopy
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RTX Titan is probably one of the most useless thing to buy for a price like that

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And for everything else except the "It's got like 24GB of VRAM so it should be better than 2080 Ti"

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More VRAM really isn't something you'd need unless it was heavy 3D rendering if I know right

vapid crypt
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Right well it isn't meant to be a gaming card even if some gamers with more money than sense buy it

fleet canopy
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Like Linus with 4 RTX Titans?

vapid crypt
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Does he have 4 titans in his personal system?

fleet canopy
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He used it for like 16 monitors I think?

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Course it wasn't too good

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But either way, it didn't really work too well for gaming

vapid crypt
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Oh so just a throwaway system phaWesker

fleet canopy
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More like a "Let's see how useless an RTX Titan is"

vapid crypt
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I was going from the perspective of an individual buying a Titan for gaming even though you don't need that at all

fleet canopy
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Well you're kind of right I guess since it was kind of a throwaway since it's not something anyone's gonna really do

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Unless bezels were pretty near just not there, and it could be done more easier

rapid plume
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It was to make as many WORK stations as possible on a single PC

fleet canopy
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It's just a Quadro without support

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It's really not worth it imo

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Even on any sort of uses

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Because if you can't afford a Quadro for that kind of stuff, at least get a 2080 Ti instead, or two of it

vapid crypt
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The Quadro RTX 5000 is cheaper than the titan, albeit 8 less gb of vram but I mean considering the perks in workstation use