ryzen 7 3700x
#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk
solemn orchid
vvvv good price for performance
it's only about a 5% improvement over my current cpu
so not really worth the upgrade
north bronze
I'm still not sure if I wanna go with the Oculus Rift S or the Valve Index
brisk badger
Facebook owns Oculus. I hope that helps with making a decision
solemn orchid
@north bronze
I have the Rift S
if you have any questions, feel free to ask
the Index looks fucking awesome, and if you can afford it you should totally go for it
but the Rift S works fine
north bronze
What mostly brings me towards the Index is the Knuckles
And the outside-in tracking
north bronze
I heard there was a lot of issues with the Knuckles, especially stick drift
solemn orchid
the individual finger tracking is enough for me
north bronze
yeah
that's bloody awesome
also the fact they attach to your hand so you can just let go and they'll stay on
north bronze
why though
north bronze
ah yeah, not a dealbreaker for me
I'll just attach pulleys
i'd rather go all valve 
north bronze
good job
fleet canopy
Yeah, RTX is like VR though
Cool and all, but too damn new and needs a loooooot more development in
eternal cairn
^
solemn orchid
@north bronze
help
;-;
I joined the insider program and I still can't seem to get RTX working
north bronze
Only works on RTX worlds
check for nvidia created worlds in the marketplace
also im getting some artifacting on MHW D:
i hope it's driver related
real tapir
Like what artefact ?
I got an RTx 2070S too, and the game is unplayable. Fucked up textures, red and green lights, bugged menu
...
solemn orchid
it's not even letting me launch minecraft beta
it just launches regular win10 edition
even though I selected RTX in the insider app
hm
attempting reinstall I suppose
real tapir
For ~200Go download, with a 10mbps internet ... nah fuck it.
real tapir
The full game is 188Gb
north bronze
fireflies distorting on monster hunter world
real tapir
Oops. I'm out. I was talking about Cod MW
north bronze
stretching textures too
real tapir
I'm so tired 😦
vapid crypt
Oh man, why are games getting so big in file size?
real tapir
"Evolution" of games.
vapid crypt
You think with how compression can be done they would be more efficient with disk space, let alone use of RAM
brisk badger
good luck decompressing textures etc. while you play :p
i mean, it would put a good use case for a ryzen 39xx CPU, but every other CPU will probably not render much despite decompressing
fleet canopy
Hm
brisk badger
Mostly the increase of the todays game sizes is because of very detailed textures, and probably some games already have textures for 8k+ included which drastically consume space.
That also made think of an idea where you could choose in steam or any DRM, the quality of the game meaning, if you plan to play the game on low details anyway you won't need all the high res textures that then need to be downscaled. But it's not really optimal for the DRM to maintain these different files and for the developer to update the build and therefor also all textures again, and we also don't know if we can run this game with high res textures or something lower.
vapid crypt
As long as high speed storage stays affordable its all good I guess
At the same time its unfortunate for those who don't have the absolute fastest internet since digital games is largely what most people are using
fleet canopy
Yeah
In a few years perhaps, if people are still not stupid enough to think of stupid accusations, everyone will have access to good internet
A few years from at least 3-5 years to even later, depending how it goes
vapid crypt
Stupid Accusations?
fleet canopy
"5G causes coronavirus! Let's all burn it down!"
That kind
Because I can see a possibility of internet being easier to access as we go on in technology later on
vapid crypt
The 5g premise is faulty
If it would cause anything, it would be cancer or something right? Not a respiratory disease
fleet canopy
Yeah I guess
But then again, they would never do it in the first place if it did
Plus, it's pretty obvious where the coronavirus came from at this point
brisk badger
it's interesting that a lot of richer countries still not have proper fiber access
in some cases the country also doesn't care and only install the equipment till the street and the houseowner then is responsible for the last step
finite violet
It's also just a business thing in some countries
If you're the only provider or all other providers are also only offering low speeds
There's no profit in providing better speeds
It's an investment that earns you nothing
brisk badger
yes and no.
In the longterm fiber is always more cost effective due it being easier to maintain, install and being less likely to be negatively influenced by external sources etc.
molten acorn
Whoa
finite violet
it would take quite a while to actually profit out of that
brisk badger
yes but imagine following; the copper connection is broken somewhere in the street. What you do?
abstract kite
i eat copper
finite violet
something that some countries already seem to do which kind of makes more sense is to have a better infrastructure for anything new
upgrading the current infrastructure is a big cost
it would be better for isp's to be fully government issued
you pretty much need internet in your daily life, take education for example (especially with the current conditions)
would make sense to have it provided by the government funded with taxes
the country would also benefit in upgrading the infrastructure in multiple ways opposed to a regular business
A large business that needs/could use a fast connection is likely to locate themself in a country providing the best speed
Certain businesses would also profit from being able to use better speeds
So in the end, the country can pull more taxes
You also probably wouldn't want to be the country providing shit speeds
brisk badger
I can't really speak how every or most countries handle this, but it's very difficult to discuss about since we have so many different execution.
What I want to mention; even if you manage to have a reliable and fast internet to your country that doesn't mean you have fast speeds to the outside of the country.
Speed, sure is important but reliability is probably even more important for evolving countries.
A large company also doesn't need to locate itself around a country with fast speed. Servers or services they offer are very often outsourced to other placed, or even redundant throughout many places in the world
Also it can be very problematic when it comes to the government being fully in charge of the internet in your country. A good example is surely China but what IMO did top everything was Kazakhstan recently did in their country: https://www.zdnet.com/article/kazakhstan-government-is-now-intercepting-all-https-traffic/
What kazakhstan did you could also technically do at home 😛
abstract kite
1080p
1920
but if what you are asking is... is that a 4k background
it is
They just look good
brisk badger
it looks creepy, but I still would rather want be killed by a predator than by the aliens 😛
brisk badger
I also like to inspect people's taskbar but yours look boring 🥱
abstract kite
;D hey im a simple man
brisk badger
people sometimes tell interesting stories by looking at their taskbar
brisk badger
you even hid the recycle bin! heresy
brisk badger
also sup. long time no see. I think you are active when I enter my bed
abstract kite
ye its 0:25 am rn
dont mind my pepe collection
dammit
they made me do it
my amigos
brisk badger
the warden will not he happy to see no GTFO icon
brisk badger
he is not happy with us so far
abstract kite
i wonder why are shadow textures causing so much fps issues
in predator game
like the difference between low and medium is huge XD
50-60 fps difference
jade ermine
That forsaken game only accepts chad pc's
abstract kite
tbh RTX 2080ti runs fine 130 fps XD
sec the dev is calling me from that game
brrr brrr
aha... he said we all need to have 2080ti + XE type of shit with 64 cores + 128gb ram to run 144 fps
crisp sage
do both Sata cables go to the mobo?
installing a new PSU and I forgot what goes where lmfao
jade ermine
Sata -> mobo
Sata power -> drives
crisp sage
fjfjgjfnfbf my front panel connectors aren't working, epic
quick ingot
Did you connect the front panel connectors to your Mainboard? Depending on the age of your case you should have one for headset and microphone and one for usb 2.0 and or 3.0, the amount of usb front panel connectors can vary from computer casing to computer casing.
rapid plume
Hmm?
chrome heart
will the b450 tomahawk max fit in my case? ATX, Mini-ITX is the supported mobo size in the case
knotty haven
Yoyo
knotty haven
What case
molten acorn
Yes it's ATX
chrome heart
thermaltake core p5
chrome heart
aight
knotty haven
Oh ys itll fit
molten acorn
Yeah, you're good
knotty haven
Noice
Does it have good airflow
Dont pull a north
Note cooler it runs better itll be
It wont have issues
knotty haven
Xd
molten acorn
what GeePeeU?
molten acorn
Yeah, the
which one
Whichever the XFX one is recommended
wait no
that's the one that's not recommended
PowerColor Red Devil Radeon RX 5700 XT.PowerColor Red Devil Radeon RX 5700 XT. <-
crisp sage
It was too cheap to pass up
crisp sage
yeah its pre good
crisp sage
At 144hz 1080p
crisp sage
Apex, siege....uhhh... mainly what im playing rn
crisp sage
why?
molten acorn
Because it's not worth it's original asking price, imo
crisp sage
oooof
molten acorn
Anyway, I'll be in general, unless you need more PeeSea help
tardy tinsel
kek
abstract kite
Im having issues with gtfo capping my frames around 45ish regardless of if i use max graphics or lowest
do you have V-sync enabled?
no
Hm...
these are the settings im currently using
if i turn everything all the way down fps doesnt change
What are the specs of your system?
i5 8400 8gb ddr4 ram gtx 1050ti
fleet canopy
I mean, you can play with it pretty good
Dunno how demanding it is for GTFO, but even my 1060 3GB couldn't do 60FPS for some reason
40-45FPS like yours
abstract kite
thats probably bc of vram if i had to guess
I would suggest turning SSAO off and lowering shadow quality to medium
that might garner you a few more frames
ok
it got me occasionally 1 extra frame
molten acorn
Check your anti-aliasing settings
abstract kite
believe it or not no antialiasing has a negative effect
molten acorn
LMFAO
dense canopy
Hey so I have a potato, some wires from an rc car & some skittles. How can I get it to run GTFO?
ornate ginkgo
Never play with such a high FOV. It has to draw more enviroment at the same time and looks aweful. A lower FOV gives a better feeling of a claustrophic settings.
static cloak
ornate ginkgo
Sorry @static cloak ?
chrome heart
y'all
are you sure b450 tomahawk max supports ram of 3600 MHz?
2667, 2800, 2933, 3000, 3066, 3200, 3466, 4100, 4133 MHz those are the supported ones says the page
solemn orchid
To quote a user on Toms Hardware forums;
You likely could use a 3600 kit with the b450 tomahawk, but it might not be stable. Older boards dont handle faster ram too well. I would buy a 3200 kit for a very small performance loss. 3200mhz should work fine.
chrome heart
I see
good that i saw this shit before i bought it
but then again
it says it goes to 4133
@solemn orchid it's the max
not the normal one
rapid plume
Different speeds do different things and preform differently, that’s why 3600 is generally the best and fastest you’d want even tho some ram can reach near 5000, it’s all about how it handles it
In your case 3200 is the best for the bored
chrome heart
so it doesn't support 3600?
rapid plume
It can, but I wouldn’t recommend it
chrome heart
why not
rapid plume
It’s not stable, meaning it may work it may not, if it does then it may not work fully or how it should, if it doesn’t then you just wasted time and money
It’s a lose lose to try it tho
rapid plume
It’s not worth it to risk parts on your PC unless you have a lot of time to fiddle and a lot of money to replace things
dense wasp
Calling my experiment done @rapid plume, switching over to a bigger case as soon as possible
to get some better cooling going
dense wasp
no difference more or less
but getting CPU choked at 95c
so my cinebench scores are like 50% of what they should be
rapid plume
Then it may be just a bad card for that- Jesus
Bless you for getting a bigger case XD
dense wasp
😉
rapid plume
When is it coming in?
dense wasp
I have some fractal design cases at the office
rapid plume
Nice! So super soon
dense wasp
I might use one of them,
Define C, Define S2 Vision & Vector RS
dense wasp
I have a celsius S36 or whatever it's called as well, AIO,
but waiting for Noctua to send some DH15's, but haven't decided what to use yet
long time since I used an AIO
rapid plume
What are the AIOs you have? Some are worth it for your cpu, but the DH15 May be better for now
sullen horizon
I actually tried to use a car radiator for my pc
I have a huge industrial fan for it
rapid plume
Good lord
dense wasp
I might do the Celsius S36, in the Define Vision S2
rapid plume
Define was my pick of the three, and I’d say yea go with watercooling, tho not the best it seems to be on par with the DH15
Plus that much more space will help, but have fans to load it up with?
dense wasp
I've got a bunch of extra fans if I want to use them
rapid plume
Beautiful
Now if you excuse me I’m going to move close to you so I can borrow some things from the office for ‘testing’ purposes...
dense wasp
haha 😄
Thinking about where to put the radiator, the Define S2 Vision already has 3 fans in front.
top?
rapid plume
Unless you are connecting to a water cooled GPU then top is generally the best place for CPU radiators
dense wasp
naw just the AIO
rapid plume
Yea top is fine
Wait looking at pics... is the top just glass?
There’s no top down pic or inside looking up pic on amazon so I can’t tell
dense wasp
I can'
t tell ;D
wouldn't make much sense having it glass coming to airflow..
• Extensive cooling support with room for up to nine fans, 360 mm front and top radiators, and 240 mm bottom radiators
rapid plume
Yea it can be changed to mounts for radiators and mesh instead of glass... that’s both really nice and pretty nifty
So you’re good
rapid plume
Worse comes to worse you may need a touch more time for a new case
dense wasp
switching the ghost over to a 3600x with a 1660ti I think.
rapid plume
That should be fine, not as hard working and more of a lite
dense wasp
yeah
rapid plume
What will it be used for tho?
dense wasp
the Ghost ?
not really sure, testing, and a good backup build / playing in the living room, hehe
rapid plume
XD I mean it’s small enough to be a travel PC so do it!
Sadly I must go attempt sleep as it’s almost 05:00 for me lol
Talk to you soon!
chrome heart
@rapid plume yea i understand whihc is why i'm not taking the risk
chrome heart
reeeeeeeeeee
fleet canopy
If it's not too stable, let it be 3200MHz
fleet canopy
Plus, you get to keep it for later as well 
fleet canopy
Well I'd say you can just get 3600MHz CAS16 and get it neatly
abstract kite
what motherboard?
fleet canopy
Tomahawk MAX
abstract kite
the b450 tomahawk max will support 3600
fleet canopy
Unless it'll be regular B450 Tomhawk
chrome heart
you're sure right? because it says 2667, 2800, 2933, 3000, 3066, 3200, 3466, 4100, 4133 MHz
abstract kite
it wont have trouble with 3600 mhz since it can run at 4100 mhz and 4133 mhz
fleet canopy
The Tomahawk isn't like
fleet canopy
One of those low or mid end B450 boards kek
abstract kite
yea the tomahawk is good
fleet canopy
And either way, you got some good RAM to keep later on, whenever you upgrade
fleet canopy
He did say he was gonna go with that
dense wasp
My spontaneous reaction would be that the top radiator fans should blow air out through the radiator.
But google gave me this
I guess my reaction is wrong ? 🤷🏻♂️
fleet canopy
I mean, I think?
fleet canopy
Well if you can keep a balance, that's neat
And the air going through outside for watercooling seems better imo, as water flows and heat from CPU goes out, rather than going back in
dense wasp
Yeah, that was my though as well
Front and bottom intake.
Back and too, exhaust
Or maybe I’ll just do front intake
But still
fleet canopy
imo the picture is pretty good
Heat does rise however
So depending where that PSU fan aims at, ehh
It looks pretty good to me though tbh
Oh yeah I see why now
Because heat goes around for the water cooler, if it were to let out hot air, that's just gonna make it even hotter I guess
So the water cooler being intake is good
sick reef
It depends on how crowded it is, kinda.
When I did mine, I wanted to achieve a certain flow-through, and I think it has worked, not only because of the fans are strong, but I got the throughput I wanted.
merry bay
are the middle ones supposed to be rad fans?
sick reef
That's just the fans, without any other parts, but yeah, that's the CPU Rad, and the back fan is GPU Rad.
eternal cairn
I've been told to have fans blowing up and back since hot air rises.
jade ermine
almost 8.2k cuda cores
yeah sure lol
fleet canopy
kek
abstract kite
imagine xd
jade ermine
2080Ti has 68 for reference
abstract kite
rip the original source got removed from twitter
fleet canopy
Uhh
fleet canopy
Uhh
abstract kite
for fuck sake
fleet canopy
You are getting "I'm gonna assume this happens and will have that"
abstract kite
i want s p e c s
jade ermine
September or later we might get some info about Gaming cards
abstract kite
woooo look at our tesla cards
jade ermine
so hold your horses m8
jade ermine
july 23, 2019
abstract kite
im gonna say they would come out like around september
announced on may
or like
idk i hope
:C
jade ermine
Computex is september, that could be good time to give something
abstract kite
im kinda getting sick of getting 90 fps on tripple a games n shit
ur kidding right their going to release them next yr? tff
jade ermine
Im playing monster hunter at 45-80fps all year
abstract kite
idk how u do it
fleet canopy
Hey now
abstract kite
my eye is triggered
fleet canopy
90FPS isn't so bad
jade ermine
i want to stay above 100 :D
abstract kite
and i want 16k 240hz
jade ermine
I have ultrawide so some extra horsepower would be nice
jade ermine
gimme those 8k cuda cores baby
fleet canopy
That's a big no
jade ermine
fleet canopy
That'd be impressive
abstract kite
i mean technically i wouldnt be surprised lol
unlucky would be like
HOLY SHET SELLING MY CHEESE
🧀
abstract kite
then i have 800€
fleet canopy
Well that's not that bad I guess
jade ermine
I have around 1.2k + whatever i get from my 2080
fleet canopy
Just save it lol
fleet canopy
lol no
jade ermine
probably just like last time im going for Ti card, all hyped up, and cant buy it because its way more expensive than i thought lol
fleet canopy
If you have a job, not too hard to get a few thousands a year unless your job fucking sucks
abstract kite
technically my job sucks 11 hours per day for 200€ a month
- corona isnt rly doing a good job
:C
also if 3080ti will cost more than 1300€ im gonna die inside
fleet canopy
lol damn
jade ermine
block and backplate is another 200€
fleet canopy
Maybe you can expect a good price drop on a 2080 Ti
jade ermine
so yeah almost like getting titan in pascal days
abstract kite
i aint getting 2000 series
jade ermine
i have zero interest in 2080Ti because i have 2080 right now
fleet canopy
For Coffee, sure good
jade ermine
no reason to pay hundreds for 10-20fps more in my resolution
fleet canopy
Because motherfucker you aren't gonna be able to pay for it
abstract kite
XDDDDDD
fleet canopy
And when you finally do
abstract kite
I WILL IDC IMA SELL MY HAIR
fleet canopy
RTX 4000 comes out
abstract kite
im at 1080p
jade ermine
hahaha
jade ermine
3440x1440p
2080Ti
75-85fps
abstract kite
i mean im fine with my 9900k xd
jade ermine
no thank you
jade ermine
abstract kite
my desk is too childish to take a pic
jade ermine
All these pixels need dat 3080Ti bby
jade ermine
F
fleet canopy
There's a fucking dude that took a picture and revealed a kid's rug mat
Here
Million of times
abstract kite
xd
jade ermine
That thing would be dope
jade ermine
Nostalgia mat
fleet canopy
Probably just needs a real good clean
fleet canopy
SEND PC
abstract kite
if its not perfect
fleet canopy
NO MATTER
fleet canopy
: (
fleet canopy
You have PC OUTSIDEE????
fleet canopy
lmao
abstract kite
godamit
fleet canopy
There's a dude that actually had a PC outside
abstract kite
DAMMIT LUDVIG
enable gifs
i would love to have a room outside
and just game while its raining
jade ermine
You know that feeling when there is nothing to upgrade in your pc?
fleet canopy
haha totally
abstract kite
me when i die inside internally
fking aspergers man
i hate it
aaaaaaaaaaaa
I DESPISE IT
fleet canopy
Perfection: Not a 3080 Ti
fleet canopy
Perfection: RTX Quadro 8000
jade ermine
Muppyyy
abstract kite
quantum gpu's and cpu's
were able to run like billions and trillions fps
i saw that supercomputer
run 30k fps in fortnite
or smth
fleet canopy
lol
fleet canopy
Billions and trillions
abstract kite
actually infinity would vaporise your brain
jade ermine
Talking about Crysis, Remake got announced or some shit
jade ermine
Crysis memes will be reborn
fleet canopy
kek we all know
abstract kite
i will cry in my shower
fleet canopy
Yehs
abstract kite
FUCK
i keep forgeting
im done
gn
cyall when nvidia releases 3080ti for 2000$
fleet canopy
lol
abstract kite
titan for 4000$
fleet canopy
Sounds normal
jade ermine
2k for next Ti card would be pretty soul crushing tbh
especially when you are aiming to go for it
abstract kite
i mean i aimed for 3080ti
fleet canopy
That's like 2080 Ti on release
jade ermine
...hopefully
abstract kite
imagine the price tag of 10xx
ah yes
i would cream
@jade ermine give me your cheese or i will cry
jade ermine
Well sperm banks pay good and you need only 1 kidney right?
abstract kite
apperently
fleet canopy
kek
abstract kite
u get 1000$ for giving hair
for sperm its about 150$
for female egg its 8000$
dont ask
i swear i just know
it came to me one night
when i slept
totally didnt search
aaanyways gn
jade ermine
gn
sick reef
If you think it matters that hot air rises when you force airflow, then I suggest you think about how much a fan would affect airflow against a turbine
proper wren
I just had a weird customer experience months ago pop in my mind.
"My tempered glass side panel broke when I 'opened' the swinging side panel and it shattered into pieces"
abstract kite
Pft
abstract kite
Got my psu in and my hard drive connecter isnt working. It’s been a long day.
It also isnt picking up any fans or any lights on the back power source( not part of the motherboard)
rapid plume
Take a pic? And try to explain it a bit better?
sick reef
Poddy, wan't that quite common for some specific case?
I vaguely remember a case that had a glass panel that just broke if it was opened/open.
Badly tempered glass making it extremely fragile.
Hard Drive connector as in power connector, ghost?
And no fans or lights? You mean as in a case module that does LED?
jade ermine
@abstract kite Did you have ryzen or intel?
jade ermine
Ah wanted to ask have you tried tinkering around with precision boost overdrive but nevermind then lol
abstract kite
for ryzen?
i have no clue about that buut i do know i did OC my 9900k as max as i could before it was reaching high temps
by high temps i mean gaming around 30% was giving me 60c which is okay
on regular 3.6-4.7 ghz it was reaching upto 45-50c
jade ermine
What does your single core score look like in R20 lets say?
abstract kite
i actually forgot i think maybe 9k score
I only did one test like few months ago
but my GPU triggers me as on idle its okay running but gaming goes upto 80c.. hence why i am unpatient to get new GPUuuuu
jade ermine
9K? I was talkinga bout cinebench R20 lol
What's wrong with 80C, Its aircooled so that's totally normal.
abstract kite
eh when i first got it it was going upto 60c
i also dont know if cinebench is that paid testing cause i only did one free test
proper wren
Poddy, wan't that quite common for some specific case?
@sick reef ASUS Rog cases are tough to break so is very unlikely it can happen
sick reef
Yeah. What I was talking of was a specific case that did that exact thing.
tight perch
i have no idea if this fits in here but i need advice so lets try it.
im currently using a raspberry pi 3+ as a webserver and for some smaller discord bots with a sqlite3 database.
so far the pi is holding its ground but during heavy use, it can reach its limits
so im looking for something to upgrade but i have seriously no idea about this kind of hardware and would need some advice here.
my requirements would be:
- OS: Linux Debian
- low power consumption
- ARM based processor for the point above?
- Probably a RAID 01
Thanks for any help^^
brisk badger
do you know what the bottleneck is exactly? CPU usage?
sqlite is great but if you have a lot of (concurrent) actions on it, it can be a bottleneck
brisk badger
hey micheal. there is channel called #gtfo-technical-support that will help you. Check the pinned messages in that channel. I recommend to replace or delete the gtfo settings file. Verify that you fullfil the system requirements. Also always good to do is to make a clean install of your newest GPU driver
no worries 😛 I also discovered late
tight perch
@brisk badger i think the biggest bottleneck would be that 1gb of ram
talked with some friend about it in the meantime and 2 of them just recommended me to upgrade to a raspi 4
also sqlite wasnt my first choice but i went with it because mysql or similar would have been overkill
dense wasp
I got a bit more space in here @rapid plume
void perch
just a little
fleet canopy
Let's all wait 500 years for it to load
:)
Or just open it up in browser, ehh
Surprised it's not on the very top PCIE x16 slot
fleet canopy
You could be looking at wrong temps?
fleet canopy
50 should be load at least kek
Or a little under load
Mine is like 60 ish
Unless it's the CPU, idk
abstract kite
Mine ok?
abstract kite
No.
dense wasp
Haha, looks nice enough!
sick reef
Well, now your room is the ambient case temperature of your PC.
dense wasp
All these lights
tardy tinsel
Gotta love them lights
This is my dream
Mainly the triple monitor setup
The rainbow colours are cool but not important
sick reef
Whilst I can understand Ludvigs setup, the kind of RGB pukes that one is akin is why RGB is more a joke than a serious thing.
late sorrel
yeah a monochromatic build does a lot
abstract kite
@dense wasp real talk tho... WHEN IS THAT JUICY RAY TRACING coming 
to GET DA FOK OUT BRUV
abstract kite
abstract kite
i feel like ludvig would just randomly post like "owo what is this... light reflections that follow your eye movement in game"
dense wasp
yeah around 100~ in 3840x1600
fleet canopy
What's the definition of max though?
There's really no max frames
:)
If we had one, it'd either be 999-1000 or 9999
abstract kite
tbh i see my frames being the same even on low and max graphics
so i guess thats good
x
xD
at 1080p obv
okay my theory is... if ludvig isnt saying stuff about ray tracing.. it means its coming
shhh dont tell him we know
rapid plume
Max frames are based on monitor
fleet canopy
I could say 60 would be the max if you can run that, then cool
Since 60 is better than anything lower tbh
stark plover
Is there a program to handle wifi qos if my router doesnt have the option to
rapid plume
@dense wasp I forgot to ask you, when putting in the AIO did you use the stock thermal pad or did you clean it off and use the thermal paste I got you to get?
And sorry for the ping
late sorrel
tbh you should use graphite plates for ryzen
pseudo ridge
fleet canopy
Wild
dense wasp
@rapid plume I used the stock one,
I didn’t know how much I had left, and wanted to use it on the 3600x I put in the ghost 🙂
rapid plume
I have an odd request of you if you have time at the moment, for one could I pm you some ideas and questions, as I’m designing a pc for you and looking for ways of upgrading what you currently have. I want to know exactly what you have (I have an idea I just want to be 100% sure) and is like to know if you could join a call for some opinions on some PC things
fleet canopy
Hm
Has 2080 Ti
Could probably get a damn good processor
User goes out to recommend more upgrades
I wonder what's left to upgrade tbh kek
late sorrel
kek what you gunna upgrade that build with
rapid plume
Just one of the upgrades would be ram, helping greatly, another would be case, since thermals are an issue at the moment
This is more to see 100% what he has and explain some things
fleet canopy
The case is fine?
What was it?
Damn
That case has a million miles of room
Doesn't even need an upgrade, but I can understand the thermals
If it's GPU thermals, that's on the card
FE cards are known to be hot bitches
And plus, I'm not entirely sure that amount of space with the GPU fan and the wall its facing is really that good to be that close
chrome heart
@fleet canopy question
I saw stuff like Kraken Z73 or something
and that's liquid cpu cooling
but does that require you to buy liquid cooling or something?
o how does that work
rapid plume
Oh lord... first off the krakens suck, Second unless it’s a custom loop you won’t need to buy any liquid...
chrome heart
kraken is just an example :p
but i wonder, why not
doesn't the liquid in the non-custom ones also get useless after a while?
i don't understand why the non-custom doesn't need refill
rapid plume
That’s after a few years of hard use, then you just buy a new AIO
What AIOs use is special made for that
chrome heart
oh ok
how many years then?
i might consider buying a aio instead of some fans then
rapid plume
Depends on the AIO, both brand and design, along with how it’s used
What CPU do you have? It may not be worth getting one
rapid plume
Sorta, it depends on radiator size and how many it can fit
rapid plume
360mm is a good size, generally past that doesn’t affect thermals much more
chrome heart
i don't need to worry about other fans then?
might consider changing my fans for an aio
hmm
rapid plume
Good fans are needed
chrome heart
well i only have space for 3x140 or 4x 120 (they are stacked on top of eachother)
it's an open case
so maybe a qio of 240 and an extra fan?
rapid plume
What case do you have? You’re confusing me a tad with what you’re saying lol
rapid plume
A thermal take... can I see a pic of your pc tho?
chrome heart
i don't have it yet
but that's the case
that i bought
i still need to buy every part
rapid plume
Can you give me a list of what you currently have bought then?
chrome heart
just the case
chrome heart
xD
rapid plume
Can I see a list of what you want to get then?
chrome heart
i do want an ryzen 7 3700x & rtx 2080 super tho
psu will be 850W gold
oh and some thermaltake fans
it's a pack of 3 fans of 140
rapid plume
Did you order or do you have any of this yet?
rapid plume
Ok... there’s a lot of just pure no in that list... I’ll fix it up in a bit lol
chrome heart
like what?
chrome heart
i do, but honnestly, it's not possible yet for me to know the exact range
i guess 1.8k ish euro
rapid plume
That’s good and very doable
chrome heart
are you still here @rapid plume xD
rapid plume
Yea I’m fixing things, it takes time
chrome heart
oki no prob :p
oh and don't use american sites cuz they are always cheaper
and i'm not murican
rapid plume
Kinda don’t have a choice so you’ll have to do some research on your end
Almost done
chrome heart
alright no prob 😉
chrome heart
what's suddenly wrong with the msi tomahawk max lol
first everyone's like that's a rlly good mobo, get it, defo
and now it's a pure no xd
not trying to hate on you
it's just difficult for me to finally buy something if everyone keeps changing every part
rapid plume
The Budget changed so we can pick the correct chipset for the processor
chrome heart
it didn't change tho
rapid plume
The tomahawk was a B chipset that’s for budget, ryzen 7 isn’t budget, that’s ryzen 5
chrome heart
ah ok
rapid plume
How does price look or are you still looking things up?
chrome heart
i don't have the space for that liquid cooler tho
looks similar so far
it's either that liquid cooler or the case fans
rapid plume
You do, PCPartPicker is wrong saying it isn’t
chrome heart
wut
chrome heart
yea but i don't get it
you gave me a 360mm liquid cooling + 3 140 fans
i don't see where i can install both of them
rapid plume
This is a 420mm rad with 3 140mm fans
chrome heart
yea sure
but i can't find here i can add that 420mm rad
(when the other fans are alrdy installed)
oh w8 a sec
the rad is on the right & the fans should be where the reservoir is
i still don't know if there's space for it tho
i'll just buy the fans first and then see if there's space enough for both
that should be the safest bet
rapid plume
What? In the pic the radiator is a 480mm rad, it has support for that but the one I have you getting is 420mm
It even says it has support here
chrome heart
i guess
rapid plume
The pic is using 4 120mm fans because it’s a 480mm rad
chrome heart
don't have access to the zotac gpu tho
rapid plume
That was cheaper on my end is all, whatever you pick for 2080 SUPER is fine
chrome heart
ah ok
adding liquid cpu cooler & the other mobo makes me go 200 euro above 1.8k
rip
rapid plume
Just Save a bit More is all, that’s not that much
rapid plume
Take a pic of the prices so I can see if there’s anything I can change
And I saved up for over 2 years to buy my PC that cost half of yours and is worse... a few months at most wont be bad lol
chrome heart
the thing is, i have to do my stuff on a different site
which means i'll be fucking up my build all over
i'll see
i'll use another browser
ok yea that'll work
rapid plume
Ok
chrome heart
couldn't find the liquid cooler & the psu is also different
2k euro already
and the case isn't in this either
which is another 150
rapid plume
You said you got the case
rapid plume
Oh lol should of said
rapid plume
The GPU can be any cheaper one you can find that’s a 2080 SUPER