#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk | GTFO | Page 99

worthy hedge Apr 25, 2020, 2:22 AM

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hey,its me again.I formatted my pc yesterday and made sure there was nothing on it

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just now i came back to find unwanted pups which i keep removing and they dont go away

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my only guess is,my fathers usb stick is infected since its the only thing i used

lost kiln Apr 25, 2020, 2:23 AM

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so i'd prob try my current board a Z370 Gaming Plus or go asus

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and rip

merry bay Apr 25, 2020, 2:24 AM

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Maybe not the stick, but the windows install itself is fishy?

lost kiln Apr 25, 2020, 2:25 AM

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Thats an option too

merry bay Apr 25, 2020, 2:29 AM

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If you're not going for overclocking, there's not much to stress about the mobo, Z370 Gaming Plus would run ok as long as you're not pushing it far.

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One could argue you don't need to go for Z370/Z390 if you're not aiming for OC

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 2:31 AM

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Don't they have a different CPU socket though?

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Unless already have a Z370

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From what it seems

lost kiln Apr 25, 2020, 2:32 AM

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I haven't really thought about OCing, but i did think about water cooling cuz i live in the attic

merry bay Apr 25, 2020, 2:32 AM

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Either should be ok for 8th/9th gen CPU's afaik

lost kiln Apr 25, 2020, 2:34 AM

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as far as ik the i9 9900k is 1151

merry bay Apr 25, 2020, 2:34 AM

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fits the bill for both Z370 and Z390

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9900K turbos pretty aggressively though, so it might be concern. I haven't really seen aftermaths of people cheaping out on a mobo with such CPU's. Just know it's advised against

lost kiln Apr 25, 2020, 2:37 AM

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Hmm

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i'll prob hold off on using it till i can get a new MB then

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I'd like it to last at least 4-5 years safely lol

merry bay Apr 25, 2020, 2:40 AM

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For the most part it would turbo less, or over time parts of the mobo would risk crapping out from excessive temps on VRM's. That's about it I think. That's my very surface level view on the risks.

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Possibly a non issue given good airflow

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I went for beefy VRM's just to set things and forget it. Likely not neccessary, but payed a bit more for peace of mind.

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Z390 Gigabyte AORUS Elite, works great, only downside a little wonky BIOS

lost kiln Apr 25, 2020, 2:43 AM

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Okay, ill still prob try out water cooling for the upgrades. havent had any system with it so im curious to see how my rig would preform with it in the attic

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Interesting my Z370 is the MSi board https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/Z370-GAMING-PLUS.html

abstract kite Apr 25, 2020, 2:44 AM

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I hear they are coming out with B550 boards

merry bay Apr 25, 2020, 2:45 AM

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When picking a board I would always check out what buildzoid has to say. If you get past the ramblings, there's a lot of spec details you can extract for comparing things.

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Went for something overbuilt just to have an option to mess with OC in-case I have time and interest. Also it's a very safe option this way. Not going high end but still having all you need.

lost kiln Apr 25, 2020, 2:47 AM

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Okay, I've always gone with MSI or ASUS. I've had good experiences with both of those brands. They were even the brands i used when i was in tech school

merry bay Apr 25, 2020, 2:48 AM

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The biggest complaint with MSI for the past few years around Z370/Z390 are the heatsink designs around the VRM's. They look pretty but there's next to no surface area. More form than function for a relevant and overlooked part.

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They will work, just questionable how it fairs for longevity or heavy OC.

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I hate how nebulous it all can be 😄

abstract kite Apr 25, 2020, 2:49 AM

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Thank you guys for helping me btw

lost kiln Apr 25, 2020, 2:50 AM

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Np

merry bay Apr 25, 2020, 2:51 AM

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Just talking about it makes me feel like cpt. vague pants.
I really hope your build goes well, when you get to it.

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6AM so likely to doze off soon

worthy hedge Apr 25, 2020, 2:51 AM

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soo i think i found out whata going on

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propably chrome sync

merry bay Apr 25, 2020, 2:53 AM

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Isn't that just for browser specific extensions, history, cookies, passwords?

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An extension could make a mess with enough permissions.

lost kiln Apr 25, 2020, 2:56 AM

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Alright ill say good morning Hapcher

worthy hedge Apr 25, 2020, 3:00 AM

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propably something along those lines yes

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i mean i cant see any other way my pc got infected again

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 3:30 AM

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Ok

ornate ginkgo Apr 25, 2020, 4:16 AM

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No. But it's not good if you have good airflow.

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It's rather unecassary then

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 4:17 AM

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He did have heating problems at one point

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And it looks so horribly cramped in there

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Clean it more often though when you do

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Jesus

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Wait are you playing?

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Cause if you are playing, that temp is perfectly fine

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It's not too bad of a temp

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Core clock I believe is GPU core?

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Cause after all it's a GPU OC software as far as I know

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Memory clock is the GPU's VRAM

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The back doesn't seem like a good idea imo

abstract kite Apr 25, 2020, 4:37 AM

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I was playing Halo Reach on Max Settings. was hitting 45c - 50c

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Gonna be trying GTFO tomorrow

pine lion Apr 25, 2020, 4:40 AM

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I would run a pc with a open case while pushing the gpu/cpu

ornate ginkgo Apr 25, 2020, 4:42 AM

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Is that a aero cool case?

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It "buffers" frames. It's kinda like a threshold. What GPU do you have?

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 4:50 AM

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It's a number

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Wait you have a 2060 I believe

lost kiln Apr 25, 2020, 4:51 AM

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Srry for jumping in but if anyone is interested in RTX voice and doesnt have a RTX card you can snag a modified installer to get it to work with older gen cards

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 4:51 AM

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Yeah

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That 2060 should be good

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 9:55 AM

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next pc full AMD yay or nay?

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 9:56 AM

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Well it depends

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Full AMD is a good option I guess, since drivers made it pretty good

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 9:56 AM

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i know

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 9:56 AM

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So go ahead if you'd like

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 9:56 AM

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i'm looking to build a pc myself

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 9:56 AM

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Ah?

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 9:56 AM

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but everyone always says contradicting stuff

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and i don't know if i should just take nvidia & intel or full amd

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or a mix

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 9:56 AM

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As in?

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 9:57 AM

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because everyone says something different

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 9:57 AM

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Doing AMD + NVIDIA is my opinion

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 9:57 AM

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amd processor then?

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 9:57 AM

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And depends what you want to aim for in resolution + FPS

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AMD processor yeah

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Those have gotten real good

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 9:57 AM

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as high as i can get xd

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 9:57 AM

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Sooo

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 9:57 AM

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aight

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 9:57 AM

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1440p 144hz or 4K 60?

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 9:57 AM

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nah no 4k

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 9:58 AM

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lol cool

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So 1440p 144hz then

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 9:58 AM

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4k makes it only way more expensive for a few more colors

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yea i guess

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 9:58 AM

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You can go with a 3700X and 2070 Super, that's a nice bet

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 9:58 AM

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aight lemme check them out

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 9:59 AM

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Can get a 2080 Super, that would let you do max settings 1440p 144hz no problem

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Like 99% of the time ig lol

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 9:59 AM

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i'm gaming with a 970m & i7 6th gen atm xD

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 9:59 AM

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Ooof

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 9:59 AM

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(obv a laptop)

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 9:59 AM

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What's your budget?

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 9:59 AM

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i dunno yet

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but i might have a budget of 2k euro

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which is enough

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 9:59 AM

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In euros, ah

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 9:59 AM

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yea

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:00 AM

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I might be able to help you at least

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Not too good with other currency other than USD myself, but I can always give it a try

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 10:00 AM

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i live in a bad country to order pc parts

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it's expensive af loll

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:00 AM

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Daaamn

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 10:00 AM

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(belgium)

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:01 AM

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I have no problems with any company stuff, as long as their products keep well

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 10:02 AM

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yea that's important

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:02 AM

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And I know prices are weird enough in other currency

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 10:02 AM

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i know 1 company of which, even in the stores, all boxes are damaged af

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:02 AM

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lmao damn

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 10:02 AM

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never had problems with them before but i'm not gonna uy there anymore

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:02 AM

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Kek

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 10:02 AM

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305 euro for the 3700x

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:03 AM

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Now I know how it is with other cou- okay that's not bad at all

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 10:03 AM

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which gpu would you recommend tho?

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i know quite a bit about pc's

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but as i said

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:03 AM

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Yeah

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 10:03 AM

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everyone says something different

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so idk anymore what to pick lol

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:04 AM

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So if you wanted to be a bit cheaper, you can get a 5700XT, that's a great GPU overall

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2070 Super is the same, but you don't really have to deal much problems with the drivers as far as I know now for 5700XT

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If you can find a 3700X + 2080 Super build for a good price, 2000$ or even 1500$, that's pretty epic

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 10:06 AM

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i mean xd

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fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:06 AM

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Ooh

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Those are fairly okay prices I guess?

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Well they're close enough to USD pricing if it's like 500$ / 500 euros

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Makes it a bit more flexible for me to put together something

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Now I've only had Gigabyte GPUs, and I've not had any problems

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Only a 1060 and a 2070 Super, but you know

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 10:09 AM

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well

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:09 AM

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For a 2070 Super, I would recommend keeping below 600$, but seeing how it is, I don't mind 620-630$

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 10:09 AM

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800 euro is alrdy getting quite alot tho ;-;

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also

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VR gaming

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:10 AM

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You'll be able to fit a 2080 Super and a 3700X quite nicely with 1500$ I guess, hoping that the other parts do well

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 10:10 AM

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need to consider VR

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:10 AM

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Both cards are great

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No need to worry

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 10:10 AM

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aight

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what's the difference between 2080, ti & super btw?

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:10 AM

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Uhh

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2080 Ti is a bitch of a card for it's price

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Overpriced imo

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Like way overpriced

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The performance is nice, but only really good for 4K if that's the case

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 10:13 AM

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ah ok

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:13 AM

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2080 Super can do 4K, but you're not going for that anyway

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 10:13 AM

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is it good for widescreen?

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:13 AM

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Widescreen yeah

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 10:13 AM

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cuz i might sell my current 2 31inch screens for a widescreen

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no i'm not indeed as answer to the 4k thing

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:13 AM

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Huh?

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I myself prefer having two monitors

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While it's nice with a widescreen, I don't see the benefit of that for gaming

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 10:14 AM

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but for gaming it's annoying cuz you have a like a stopping screen in the middle xD

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:14 AM

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I don't do dual monitor gaming lol

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Just single

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 10:14 AM

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yea me too

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but dual monitor would be cool

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:14 AM

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Never saw a need to have it be like

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 10:14 AM

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but yet again you're right i think

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:15 AM

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Dual or triple

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 10:15 AM

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same tbh

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:15 AM

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Too much money if I wanted to aim for 1440p 144hz on three monitors

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Like just a lot lmao

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Now I won't stop you for getting an ultrawide

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If you really do want it

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Go ahead

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 10:15 AM

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let's check out laternate :p

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nah i don't

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i'm gonna be spending lot's of time on VR anyway when i have that pc

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:16 AM

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Yeah I guess lol

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Just a simple 1440p 144hz is good enough for you

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 10:16 AM

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i've had a real shitty experience concerning my laptop and Rift S lol

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like, my laptop supports the Rift S in every way

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:16 AM

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For 1440p 144hz, I wouldn't recommend going past 27" too much

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 10:17 AM

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but the displayport is connected to my integrated graphics card instead of my gpu

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so i couldn't use it

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.........

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:17 AM

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There's good VA panels, and even an IPS for not too much more

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There's also a TN which is pretty damn cheap

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 10:17 AM

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idk what those 3 things are 🤔

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:18 AM

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They are panels

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I will

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Send a link

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Or Lab will explain

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:18 AM

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Montiors.

sick reef Apr 25, 2020, 10:18 AM

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Wide Panel, IPS mainly colour correct, TN mainly fast and cheap.

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:18 AM

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In a non nerd language

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Montiors.

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Ish

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:18 AM

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In non nerd language

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It's like

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TN? Good for getting fast speed, cheap money, but not the best color

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 10:19 AM

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oh xD

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:19 AM

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VA? That's in between IPS and TN, but much better than TN

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:19 AM

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Optic mag is pretty good. Tbh. I use it and I know a shit ton of people who use it

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:19 AM

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IPS? Overall the best. Gives great color, but quite a hefty price

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:19 AM

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But it's on the $$$ side

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Yea

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:19 AM

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Optic Mag?

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:19 AM

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Msi optix mag

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400 ips

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$400**

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:20 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNc2fKuVnGU

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:20 AM

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I enjoy it.

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:20 AM

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Old, but still correct

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Virgin Linus

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:20 AM

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Yes

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Linus need to update alot of videos

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Tech ages fast

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:20 AM

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A lot, sure

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But some are still nearly accurate

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:21 AM

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All?

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Yuh

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:21 AM

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For instance

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The video I posted

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:21 AM

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Yuh

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If gamer who like color

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I p s

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 10:21 AM

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what mobo would you recommend as well?

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:21 AM

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B450 Tomahawk MAX

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:21 AM

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~~newest chipset~~

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:21 AM

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But if you want X570, uhh

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:21 AM

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That's only if you want amd^

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:21 AM

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You can research that

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He's gonna get a 3700X

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:22 AM

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O

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 10:22 AM

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^

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:22 AM

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Good boi

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 10:22 AM

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xD

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:22 AM

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Then I reccomend too

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Good board

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:22 AM

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X570 is not really what you need tbh

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:22 AM

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I just got my 2080 ti. School gave me a relief check and I used it kek

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:22 AM

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All you'll get for it is PCIe 4.0

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And we're not really expecting much to use it except the new M.2 4.0 SSDs

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But eh

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 10:23 AM

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another thing, I still have an 2x 4GB Ram card from vengance from my old pc
I'm gonna buy a 2x8 GB ram this time
can I add that ram from the other pc to it? or would it be wiser not to

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:23 AM

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Some give quite a bit of an overall difference

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:24 AM

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No @chrome heart

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:24 AM

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But the price is mega stupid

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:24 AM

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Cant use ddr3 for ddr4

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:24 AM

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Yeah ^

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:24 AM

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Or 3000mz with 3600mz

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 10:24 AM

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hmm yea that's true xd

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:24 AM

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Has to be same chipset/speez

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Sadly

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:(

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:24 AM

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You can get 3600MHz CAS16 at a cheap price

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:24 AM

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^

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:24 AM

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If your country is not absolutely destroying the RAM prices

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:24 AM

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Get now before they get jacked back up

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Yea.

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It's an ight time to buy rn

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 10:25 AM

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knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:25 AM

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Earlier ddr4 3000mz was almost 150 lol

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No rgb?

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S a d

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:25 AM

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Who care about are gee bee

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 10:25 AM

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i mean i have to look at my price

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:25 AM

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Alot of gamer

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:25 AM

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No

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:25 AM

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Rgb is 10 extr

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I think?

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:26 AM

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Mehh

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His otherr country

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Might overprice

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:26 AM

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Same price as mine rn

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Who knows

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 10:26 AM

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it's 129 for rgb with it

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:26 AM

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My build is almost pure rgb

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Oof

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Up to you then

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:26 AM

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Oh no

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:26 AM

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Only thing I refused to get it rgb psu

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Kek

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:26 AM

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3600MHz CAS18 for FUCKING 117$

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:27 AM

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That's to much rgb

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 10:27 AM

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it's 3600 tho

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:27 AM

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^

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Better then 3000 at 117

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Kinda cheap

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:27 AM

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You could also fit in like a 32GB

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Only twice as more

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 10:27 AM

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also

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PSU wattage?

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like 650

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something

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idk

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:27 AM

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850 good baseline

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:27 AM

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Get an 850W bronze or gold

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 10:27 AM

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ok

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:27 AM

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Anything over 1000 you wont even touch

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Unless your linus running 6 servers on one psu

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Lmfao

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Go semi modular

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Btw

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Cleaner

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:28 AM

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How's the price for F4-3600C16D-16GVKC?

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That be the model ID for RAM I am recommend

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 10:29 AM

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by the way, do you know where i can get a cheap win10? xD

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:29 AM

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No XD

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:29 AM

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Uhh

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:29 AM

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Not that we can speak of here

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:p

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Other wise yes

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 10:29 AM

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dm me then xD

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:29 AM

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Xd

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:29 AM

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Not through piracy, no

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:29 AM

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^

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:29 AM

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Can get for less than 10$ on like good sellers

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 10:29 AM

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yea ik

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but idk where to get it

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:30 AM

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Look for Win 10 key

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:30 AM

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^

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:30 AM

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And go through website sell

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Should come across good price for a short bit

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:34 AM

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^

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I'm just waiting for 4000mz ram

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 10:35 AM

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also

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3x 140 fans

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or 4x 120

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or doesn't it rlly matter

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:36 AM

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Doesn't really imo

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Both are closer to same size

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:36 AM

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^

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:36 AM

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So you're not gaining too much

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What's the case going to be?

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:36 AM

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^^

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Dont pull a north

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Has a alien ware prebuilt.

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Realllly good parts

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:37 AM

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Realllly bad case

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:37 AM

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Super shit case cus alien ware cheap

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:37 AM

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Realllly bad airflow

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:37 AM

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^^^

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:37 AM

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Realllly bad fans maybe

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 10:37 AM

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looks like the pc will be around 1800 when i check it on alternate

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including everything

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:37 AM

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Nice

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:37 AM

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Not bad

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:37 AM

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What's the part list?

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 10:37 AM

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except for windows

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rip

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:37 AM

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Windoes adds 100

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:37 AM

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Window adds 10$*

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:38 AM

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Really?

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 10:38 AM

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fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:38 AM

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Look for a cheap win 10 key

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gyuh

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:38 AM

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O

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 10:38 AM

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but this is alternate

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so it's possible i'll find parts cheaper on other sites

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the same parts*

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:38 AM

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That EVO SSD is ehhhh

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Imo they're very overpriced

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Can get 500GB for way cheaper

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 10:39 AM

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true

#

then what would you say?

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:39 AM

#

Get Crucial P1 or WD Blue

#

Actually

#

P1 is good

#

But look for an NVME

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:39 AM

#

^^<

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:39 AM

#

If you don't see any "NVME"

#

Look at the little golden thing

#

If there's only one little bump, that's NVME

#

2, that's SATA

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 10:40 AM

#

difference?

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:40 AM

#

SATA is slower

#

Plus not a lot of difference in price

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 10:40 AM

#

foudn this one

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knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:40 AM

#

Well 540am

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 10:40 AM

#

found*

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:40 AM

#

Price?

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:40 AM

#

Off to bed. Goodnite cuties

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 10:40 AM

#

89 euro

#

gn barber

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:41 AM

#

Good night

#

And I'm surprised it's not a lot different in price

#

Thought it'd be fairly cheaper

#

Like 60$ ish

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 10:41 AM

#

oof

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:41 AM

#

They're like 100$ for 1TB, 50-60$ for 500GB

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:42 AM

#

Lol. Hhd laughs in 4tb for $50

#

Jk jk. Nvme best

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:42 AM

#

4TB for actually a lot fucking more

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:42 AM

#

Oh?

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 10:42 AM

#

found one on the cheaper site for 79 euro xD

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:42 AM

#

You little "I got it for cheaper lololol" man

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:42 AM

#

Dsd got a Seagate for me for 50 at local store

#

Kek no

#

Local store.

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 10:43 AM

#

📎 unknown.png

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:43 AM

#

neat

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:43 AM

#

You know what I wish for

#

A fucking microcenter

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:43 AM

#

I wish to own a 3990X

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 10:43 AM

#

so yah the pc will be around 1800 euro i guess

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:43 AM

#

Withing 20 miles of me

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:43 AM

#

I have a microcenter like

#

A bit 1hour away

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:43 AM

#

Mine is withing 4 hours

#

Kek

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:43 AM

#

Well it's like I'm in connecticut

#

That microcenter is at uhhh

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:44 AM

#

I forget

#

Its close

#

Ik what your talking about

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:44 AM

#

New York

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:44 AM

#

Yush

#

Near brok

#

I drove by it alot

#

Mircocenters are pc havens

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 10:44 AM

#

when it comes to pc parts, wish i lived in america rip

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:44 AM

#

Rip

#

Mircocenters only have like 10 stores

#

In select places in the us

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:45 AM

#

It's like next to New York

#

More closer to the water

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 10:46 AM

#

idek what a microcenter is lol

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:46 AM

#

Best place for pc parts

#

Ish

#

Linus's warehouse is best

#

Tbh

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:47 AM

#

Microcenter is basically a store you can drive to that has a lot of PC parts

#

I want to go there at some point, since it's better than waiting for deliveries

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:47 AM

#

FUCK I FORGET MY WATERRR

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:47 AM

#

lol bruhhh

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:47 AM

#

Back downstairs I go ogCry

#

I just got in bed too

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:48 AM

#

Oof

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:48 AM

#

I stg. Ims get it. Then my wife gonna just. Wake up and drink it all

#

70% always happend

#

Anyway

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:48 AM

#

Hahaha

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:48 AM

#

Nite cuties

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:48 AM

#

Good night

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:48 AM

#

Cutie

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:48 AM

#

Sleep tight

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:48 AM

#

Yes

#

I'll make you sleep.

#

Not tight

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:48 AM

#

No

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:48 AM

#

But wet

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:48 AM

#

Fuck no

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:48 AM

#

KEKW

#

Waterbed

#

You lewd

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:49 AM

#

:((((

#

You don't get wet from waterbed unless some fucker cuts it or it pops

knotty haven Apr 25, 2020, 10:50 AM

#

Who said itasnt broken to begin with myhod

#

My dog scared the living shit out of me

#

I went down stairs and she was on top of my desk.

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:52 AM

#

lmao

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 10:58 AM

#

@fleet canopy is that cpu gonna come with a cpu cooler?

#

ah

#

yea it will be

dense wasp Apr 25, 2020, 11:00 AM

#

whats the go to benchmark utility now a days ?

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 11:04 AM

#

There's a lot of options

#

Cinebench 15/20,

#

Uhh

#

There's a demo on steam that is called uhhh

#

Something-marks

#

If you don't ever plan to overclock, it's good @chrome heart

chrome heart Apr 25, 2020, 11:16 AM

#

oki

brisk badger Apr 25, 2020, 12:29 PM

#

for CPU i mostly use realbench

molten acorn Apr 25, 2020, 12:29 PM

#

For CPU and GPU I use Crysis

void wasp Apr 25, 2020, 12:29 PM

#

public/free benchmark software I use -
storage: crystaldiskmark, as-ssd
cpu: Cinebench R15 + R20
general: PC Mark (free on steam)
gpu: Unigine Heaven
mixture of those and HWiNFO64 to monitor load/temps

molten acorn Apr 25, 2020, 12:29 PM

#

Omg

#

the remaster is gonna be great

abstract kite Apr 25, 2020, 2:06 PM

#

We're gonna need the Titan to be able to run Crisis Remastered on minimal settings... 2090ti for medium settings and wait till when the next generation of cards comes out to hardly push max settings.

dense wasp Apr 25, 2020, 3:27 PM

#

lol.
my cinebench20 scores are like half of what I should do.
I get temp-throttled. yippie

#

time to switch chassi I guess >:o

sick reef Apr 25, 2020, 3:50 PM

#

Just get better flow b hmmm

dense wasp Apr 25, 2020, 4:39 PM

#

in my case?

#

lol

#

Not possible 😄

sick reef Apr 25, 2020, 4:51 PM

#

Louder/thicker fans

#

easy

pine lion Apr 25, 2020, 4:52 PM

#

@dense wasp 3dmark is a good one.

sick reef Apr 25, 2020, 4:52 PM

#

Thicker meaning you get more pressure without sacrificing sound.

dense wasp Apr 25, 2020, 5:20 PM

#

Not in my case 😅

merry bay Apr 25, 2020, 5:20 PM

#

No more coil whine! Only turbine humming 5head

dense wasp Apr 25, 2020, 5:20 PM

#

I’ve packed my ghost s01 full

#

Since it’s an itx case

#

You could call my experiment a failure, but a fun one

#

I knew I’d have temperature issues

regal laurel Apr 25, 2020, 5:21 PM

#

Optimum tech has built numerous builds in that case

#

for example this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlPrQE82m-E

#

seems to be a rather compareable build

#

Maybe you should make sure there isn't a mounting issue or so

dense wasp Apr 25, 2020, 5:22 PM

#

I know, I’ve watched most of his videos 🙂

#

Not a mounting issue, could be a bit of everything

molten acorn Apr 25, 2020, 5:23 PM

#

Sup, lildvig

dense wasp Apr 25, 2020, 5:23 PM

#

Not an optimal room to have the case in anyway

regal laurel Apr 25, 2020, 5:28 PM

#

Hm, well it just seemed like getting half the expected score would stem from something more critical than bad airflow

#

usually clocks dont need to be dropped thaaat far to keep temps in check, even on really small coolers

dense wasp Apr 25, 2020, 5:30 PM

#

For sure - I could do another pass on the airflow, but a small case like this - it’s a tough one 🙂

#

Never built an itx before so I’m really not used to it

#

Build 100nds of atx ones, but this is a first

sick reef Apr 25, 2020, 5:32 PM

#

You could also get equally sized fan with a higher amp pull.

#

Enough amp, and you get the pressure you need.

dense wasp Apr 25, 2020, 5:32 PM

#

Got a noctua one they recommended themselves

sick reef Apr 25, 2020, 5:32 PM

#

Yeah, probably 0.12A, right?

dense wasp Apr 25, 2020, 5:33 PM

#

Most likely

#

But it’s not worth it for me in terms of noise

#

So I’d rather move to a bigger sound proof case 😅

sick reef Apr 25, 2020, 5:34 PM

#

It's also likely you could modify the case slightly into getting way better temps

#

Graphics card sits snug against the side wall, right?

rapid plume Apr 25, 2020, 5:34 PM

#

Oh you’re switching cases now?

sick reef Apr 25, 2020, 5:36 PM

#

Because it it's facing a pure wall, you could make holes for it, and it's likely to give you a great improvement, I'd believe. But a slightly larger case could work more easily.

molten acorn Apr 25, 2020, 5:36 PM

#

wait

#

Labcat

#

are you suggesting he makes holes in the wall?

sick reef Apr 25, 2020, 5:36 PM

#

Yep.

#

In the wall of the case, that is.

#

Not his house.

molten acorn Apr 25, 2020, 5:36 PM

#

Oh

#

Hm

sick reef Apr 25, 2020, 5:37 PM

#

Also effective, but more difficult, and with larger consequence.

molten acorn Apr 25, 2020, 5:37 PM

#

I personally say make holes in the wall

#

of

#

your house

dense wasp Apr 25, 2020, 5:37 PM

#

The whole case has holes everywhere

sick reef Apr 25, 2020, 5:37 PM

#

All for temps, Ludvig.

molten acorn Apr 25, 2020, 5:37 PM

#

for maximum performance

dense wasp Apr 25, 2020, 5:37 PM

#

So I don’t need to make more

sick reef Apr 25, 2020, 5:37 PM

#

bruhbruhbruhbruhbruhbruhbruhbruh

dense wasp Apr 25, 2020, 5:37 PM

#

But I’m in a closet without airflow

#

That doesn’t help

#

Like, 8m2, with 4 computers

sick reef Apr 25, 2020, 5:38 PM

#

Why would it be in there though

#

huhu

dense wasp Apr 25, 2020, 5:38 PM

#

Cause my work station is there..?

#

😅

sick reef Apr 25, 2020, 5:38 PM

#

Lies

molten acorn Apr 25, 2020, 5:39 PM

#

I wanna be in labcat's closer

sick reef Apr 25, 2020, 5:39 PM

#

But it would really only matter against ambient, and if the other stations aren't throttling as badly, should not be the main issue.

#

I have my own closet now. Several, even.

molten acorn Apr 25, 2020, 5:39 PM

#

Oh right, serious talk

#

Ooh

#

Nice

sick reef Apr 25, 2020, 5:39 PM

#

Quite is.

molten acorn Apr 25, 2020, 5:40 PM

#

Ludvig here's what i suggest

#

Put everything as - wait

#

does cold air go up or down again?

#

uh

sick reef Apr 25, 2020, 5:40 PM

#

Warm air goes up.

molten acorn Apr 25, 2020, 5:41 PM

#

Okay

#

so put everything by your feet

#

and easy solution

sick reef Apr 25, 2020, 5:41 PM

#

I guess another tip would be to put fans on the computer closet.

#

But I guess, for such a small form factor, it accumulates heat too quickly to be able to dissipate it, regardless of solution, if you want to stay comfortably silent

#

I would myself just have PWM fans that go from 0-100 like a two-stroke lawnmover.

sweet sage Apr 25, 2020, 5:47 PM

#

how do I fix cold feet

#

wrong chat

sick reef Apr 25, 2020, 5:47 PM

#

Where 0-20% is "pretty nice" volume.

#

Just OC your feet using LN2.

#

I have DC fans that run at a nice volume around 10-20% fanspeed, but they also go up to 41dB individually.

#

Apart from that one fan that I think goes to 55 or something.

molten acorn Apr 25, 2020, 5:51 PM

#

you have fans on your feet?

sweet sage Apr 25, 2020, 6:00 PM

#

no i'm just super cold

abstract kite Apr 25, 2020, 7:33 PM

#

Mmm

#

I doubt that will help.

#

You're problem is a lack of airflow in that Alienware Case.

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 7:34 PM

#

Yeah

#

I've never even heard of drivers being the problem to heat lol

abstract kite Apr 25, 2020, 7:37 PM

#

I still would suggest hot swapping your components to another case, but I know that the economy is in the shitter right now.

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 7:39 PM

#

The thing is he couldn't even get the parts out unless absolutely ripping off the side panel for some reason

abstract kite Apr 25, 2020, 7:39 PM

#

Seriously?

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 7:39 PM

#

Yeah

#

Alienware is a fucking bitch lol

#

Fuck them

abstract kite Apr 25, 2020, 7:39 PM

#

Shit, I'd do it.

#

You shouldn't need to place a desk fan to cool your PC.

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 7:40 PM

#

Only thing that's connected to the whole side panel is RGB cords

abstract kite Apr 25, 2020, 7:40 PM

#

Oof

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 7:41 PM

#

What I would recommend

#

Is just buying a new case

abstract kite Apr 25, 2020, 7:41 PM

#

Speaking of Cooling. The Fans you guys recommended to me are amazing. I was playing Halo Reach last night of max settings and my temps were at 45c - 49c.

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 7:41 PM

#

Some new fans if it is needed

#

And when both arrive and you are ready

#

Rip that fucking bitch of a side panel off lmfaoo

abstract kite Apr 25, 2020, 7:42 PM

#

^

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 7:42 PM

#

What fans were they?

abstract kite Apr 25, 2020, 7:42 PM

#

At this point I would say the same.

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 7:42 PM

#

Noctua?

abstract kite Apr 25, 2020, 7:43 PM

#

Corsair LL120 120mm x3 pack.

#

Got them for about $103~

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 7:44 PM

#

Ah

#

Seen them, quite goddamn expensive

abstract kite Apr 25, 2020, 7:44 PM

#

They are very quiet.

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 7:44 PM

#

I'm not exactly feeling like it'd be neat for me though

#

That's epic

abstract kite Apr 25, 2020, 7:45 PM

#

My entire system doesn't sound like it is preparing for take off.

#

Well other than the GPU.

#

@abstract kite did you upgrade any components? Is your PC a Pre-built?

#

So you did nothing to the internals?

#

When's the last time you cleaned your fans?

#

Was this happening right out of the box?

#

If so this could be Manufacturer and if you have a warranty you could potentially get a replacement if not something better.

lilac geyser Apr 25, 2020, 7:52 PM

#

fan bearings can fail after a while

#

you can check if its a case fan making the noise by unplugging one by one, but since it happens only underload its probably the cpu fan (?)

abstract kite Apr 25, 2020, 7:54 PM

#

It could potentially be the Cooler.

#

Also I've been using cleaning alcohol and cotton swabs for cleaning fans.

#

Paper Towels work just fine, but the alcohol imo does help get the fine bits.

lilac geyser Apr 25, 2020, 7:56 PM

#

er warden, i might have been mixing up something you said and something someone else said

#

whats the problem?

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 8:00 PM

#

Overheat

lilac geyser Apr 25, 2020, 8:00 PM

#

hwmonitor to identify which component is overheating

#

https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html

merry bay Apr 25, 2020, 8:03 PM

#

avoid using hwmonitor, especially with Ryzen. It often gives incorrect values.
hwinfo is more accurate

lilac geyser Apr 25, 2020, 8:04 PM

#

never used that one, looks like it would work too

merry bay Apr 25, 2020, 8:05 PM

#

they're very similar, just without the bad rep

lilac geyser Apr 25, 2020, 8:05 PM

#

i guess on my old ass board I never noticed :)

#

Z87 will reign supreme, now and forever

pine lion Apr 25, 2020, 8:18 PM

#

hey my wifes rig is an upgraded R2, alienware was one better pc's back then

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 8:18 PM

#

Probably

#

But if that's how alienware is

#

Then absolutely hell no I would never even step into Alienware shit

lilac geyser Apr 25, 2020, 8:19 PM

#

the funny thing is, i looked up the per-core improvement between my and the latest processors in the price range i would buy, its like 20% improvement

#

and with 4 cores already, going to more doesnt make the most sense for me

eternal cairn Apr 25, 2020, 8:21 PM

#

If you're only looking to game and not do really anything else, then true.

lilac geyser Apr 25, 2020, 8:21 PM

#

idk, can VLC playback a HIGH DEFINITION video with only 4 cores /s

eternal cairn Apr 25, 2020, 8:21 PM

#

LUL

#

I had a quad-core, but it was irritating seeing my CPU usage go up while playing certain games.

#

Ever since I upgraded to a Ryzen 9 3900x, I haven't had that issue.

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 8:22 PM

#

While 4 cores is neat, it'd just be nicer to have more than 4 cores

#

At least double that

eternal cairn Apr 25, 2020, 8:22 PM

#

The only other times my CPU usage would max out were if "Microsoft Compatibility Telemetry" was open.

#

Yeah, 4 cores is too few.

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 8:23 PM

#

The single-thread performance is still great on Intel's side

#

So that's probably how 4 cores is still fairly good

#

But soon enough we're just going to expect games to use multi-thread

eternal cairn Apr 25, 2020, 8:23 PM

#

It is, but not good enough to the point where I'd be willing to sacrifice cores (and my wallet) for one of their processors.

#

Even with 8 cores, it still feels pretty limiting.

#

It's nice being able to play a game while rendering stuff in After Effects in the background.

#

If Intel could just up their core count to be on par with AMD, I'd probably consider choosing them the next time I upgrade.

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 8:27 PM

#

I would rather not have intel up the core amount

#

Sure it's nice

#

But JUST GET TO FUCKING 10NM AHDUOIHDFUOIHF

eternal cairn Apr 25, 2020, 8:27 PM

#

That too.

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 8:27 PM

#

Because if they do 10nm then we might see some actual fucking competition

eternal cairn Apr 25, 2020, 8:27 PM

#

I mean, there still is some competition.

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 8:27 PM

#

Some

#

Sure

#

Just their 9900K

#

And the 9700K

lilac geyser Apr 25, 2020, 8:28 PM

#

will the future be cores vs clock?

eternal cairn Apr 25, 2020, 8:28 PM

#

It already is.

lilac geyser Apr 25, 2020, 8:28 PM

#

cough, future

late sorrel Apr 25, 2020, 8:28 PM

#

yeah it already is

eternal cairn Apr 25, 2020, 8:28 PM

#

It is the future.

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 8:29 PM

#

Intel is sort of doing alright with keeping that clock going up

late sorrel Apr 25, 2020, 8:29 PM

#

yeah if you have 4 things running at the same speed vs 2 things running faster the 4 cores will work better

eternal cairn Apr 25, 2020, 8:29 PM

#

If Intel manages to push out a 7 gHZ processor, then I think clock speed will be a pretty big selling point.

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 8:29 PM

#

And plus

#

I heard desktop Ryzen 4000 were expected to hit at the 5GHz mark?

#

Or very close to it

eternal cairn Apr 25, 2020, 8:30 PM

#

While overclocking, most likely.

#

But it'll probably require either 60 fans or a 360 mm AIO.

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 8:32 PM

#

Being able to hit 7GHz on a 14nm could be possible

#

But you'd need a massive fucking cooler

eternal cairn Apr 25, 2020, 8:32 PM

#

Or better thermal displacement.

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 8:33 PM

#

Intel is just not seeing the better side of going 10nm

eternal cairn Apr 25, 2020, 8:33 PM

#

*looks at AMD*

lilac geyser Apr 25, 2020, 8:33 PM

#

maybe the future is subzero cooling components

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 8:33 PM

#

We did get the uhh

#

This new type of CPU cooler

pine lion Apr 25, 2020, 8:33 PM

#

Ive only ran intel. I'm not a huge fan of amd

eternal cairn Apr 25, 2020, 8:33 PM

#

The future of PC cases will be literal mini fridges.

#

We'll be able to store drinks in them too.

sick reef Apr 25, 2020, 8:34 PM

#

It won't be energy effective.

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 8:34 PM

#

God Intel is such a daft company at this point

#

I can understand that trying to go for higher boost clock is cool

eternal cairn Apr 25, 2020, 8:34 PM

#

My prebuilt came with Intel, and I've used it for years, but I've started doing other things that require more processing power.

#

I thought AMD was the worst at CPU temps.

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 8:34 PM

#

Nope

#

The smaller number that nm is, the cooler it should be

eternal cairn Apr 25, 2020, 8:35 PM

#

Also, I tried "underclocking" my 12-core, and I think the speed is pretty negligible in most games.

#

Unless it's underclocked to like < 3 gHZ.

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 8:35 PM

#

But seriously who the fuck is gonna get that if AMD still continues to offer more cores, be able to hit good clocks, and probably still manage to get the manufacturing better

#

Nice

eternal cairn Apr 25, 2020, 8:36 PM

#

You mean the screen went black?

lilac geyser Apr 25, 2020, 8:36 PM

#

or pc blew up?

eternal cairn Apr 25, 2020, 8:36 PM

#

It does that when it updates.

#

🤦‍♂️

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 8:36 PM

#

.>

#

It's a graphics card

#

With no graphic input, it's static

#

Or at least doesn't show

eternal cairn Apr 25, 2020, 8:37 PM

#

And it kinda loses signal when updating.

lilac geyser Apr 25, 2020, 8:37 PM

#

wait wait guys, how long did you wait at the blackscreen before restarting?

pine lion Apr 25, 2020, 8:37 PM

#

usually only a couple of seconds.

lilac geyser Apr 25, 2020, 8:37 PM

#

not you reaper

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 8:37 PM

#

For me like 1-2 sec

eternal cairn Apr 25, 2020, 8:38 PM

#

It can take up to a minute or two sometimes from what I've heard.

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 8:38 PM

#

Wack

#

He did miss 8 updates

#

Sooo

eternal cairn Apr 25, 2020, 8:38 PM

#

But I've usually had it take no more than 30 seconds.

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 8:38 PM

#

You won't have to worry

#

Just put the HDMI into the CPU graphics if it has that

#

I'm sure 9700 has it

#

And then from there, you can get the drivers

lilac geyser Apr 25, 2020, 8:39 PM

#

yes good advice, if you get no video on gpu then plug into onboard

eternal cairn Apr 25, 2020, 8:39 PM

#

I think all 9700 models except the KF have integrated graphics.

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 8:40 PM

#

There's a 9700KF?

#

Thought that was only 9900K

eternal cairn Apr 25, 2020, 8:40 PM

#

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/190885/intel-core-i7-9700kf-processor-12m-cache-up-to-4-90-ghz.html

#

It's a lot cheaper, so it makes sense they'd have one without integrated graphics.

worthy hedge Apr 25, 2020, 8:49 PM

#

does anyone here have any clue how i can remove my google sync completely from the servers?

#

i honestly dont think i can

eternal cairn Apr 25, 2020, 8:50 PM

#

Never used it before.

worthy hedge Apr 25, 2020, 8:50 PM

#

i mean i can remove it from my pc but it keeps wanting to sync back

#

eek

merry bay Apr 25, 2020, 8:51 PM

#

chrome://settings/syncSetup

#

type that in your browser

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well, in chrome

lilac geyser Apr 25, 2020, 8:51 PM

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i presume you have some desktop sync client? maybe check on web interface and delete from there

worthy hedge Apr 25, 2020, 8:56 PM

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yeah,i cant find a way to delete the sync data itself.All i can do is delete it from my desktop

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i mean,i did solve the problem my making a new account buuuut play store is gonna be a pain

lilac geyser Apr 25, 2020, 9:05 PM

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there's got to be a fix for syncing

worthy hedge Apr 25, 2020, 9:08 PM

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i doubt there is or at least im not able to find it

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and it seems like i have some pups in my sync that come back whenever i resync

molten acorn Apr 25, 2020, 9:45 PM

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O . O

worthy hedge Apr 25, 2020, 10:18 PM

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yeas,that account is doomed until they add a sync unistaller of sort

abstract kite Apr 25, 2020, 10:20 PM

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our lord 😄

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fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:20 PM

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Yes

abstract kite Apr 25, 2020, 10:20 PM

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BestMod

fleet canopy Apr 25, 2020, 10:20 PM

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The only dev

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And now

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Why in here?

abstract kite Apr 25, 2020, 10:20 PM

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:3

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bet he is in here now

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GWsabianPepoHmm

tardy tinsel Apr 25, 2020, 11:51 PM

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Ludvig_Madpainter_Angelwings

abstract kite Apr 26, 2020, 12:11 AM

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there should be some kind of pins that you press on and it should pop off

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@abstract kite

vapid crypt Apr 26, 2020, 12:11 AM

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Yeah I don't know how alien ware cases work

lilac geyser Apr 26, 2020, 12:11 AM

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did you good for how to open your specific pc?

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*google

vapid crypt Apr 26, 2020, 12:12 AM

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You might have to remove a bunch of screws I bet

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Knowing Dell

lilac geyser Apr 26, 2020, 12:13 AM

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cases might not have screws to open the first panel, some have some tabs or sliders you push/slide over then it opens

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looking at your pic, you might have to open the side panel we cant see, on the far side of the casce

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..in order to see the release mechanism

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https://www.dell.com/support/manuals/cn/zh/cndhs1/alienware-aurora-r5-desktop/alienware-aurora-r5-sm/procedure?guid=guid-5a539299-45e0-43f6-ae77-63a111a3b942&lang=en-us

eternal cairn Apr 26, 2020, 12:22 AM

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📎 thors-hammer-case-416x416.png

fleet canopy Apr 26, 2020, 12:23 AM

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That's a fucking PC

eternal cairn Apr 26, 2020, 12:23 AM

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Indeed it is.

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Dope af.

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📎 YQgdMVIEhvkaEddiYsSBWA2t7xd5cPnxiGXqGilNFD4xUD-1RwuHqEGI9pWpC_utO7WZVpDkuHDmEVhBI1C41Uw8GewmigbSPtUV.png

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Talk about shitting on Apple products. 😆

ornate ginkgo Apr 26, 2020, 2:35 AM

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Check if you really installed it on a Fan plug.

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I doubt that's the problem, bnut what power supply do you have?

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The thing you connect to you wall x3

abstract kite Apr 26, 2020, 2:42 AM

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The unit that is powering all of your components. Its what you plug the cable heading to the wall into.

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lavars got it first lol

ornate ginkgo Apr 26, 2020, 2:42 AM

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yes.

abstract kite Apr 26, 2020, 2:42 AM

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Where is it leading to

ornate ginkgo Apr 26, 2020, 2:42 AM

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^

abstract kite Apr 26, 2020, 2:42 AM

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in the PC

ornate ginkgo Apr 26, 2020, 2:42 AM

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x3

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The black box

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Yes.

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Can you see whats written on the side of the black box inside?

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It's a label in 99% of the cases

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https://image320.macovi.de/images/product_images/320/1311676_0__73054.jpg

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Should look something like this

molten acorn Apr 26, 2020, 2:44 AM

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First oof

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off*

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Is your PC prebuilt?

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Are there any components you've changed since then?

ornate ginkgo Apr 26, 2020, 2:45 AM

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Oh look, it has the sinking ship on it... I mean..

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Yeah it's corsair.

abstract kite Apr 26, 2020, 2:45 AM

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Lavars I have a corsair psu lmao

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It's been good to me thankfully; got a great deal on it.

ornate ginkgo Apr 26, 2020, 2:45 AM

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It's an insider.

molten acorn Apr 26, 2020, 2:45 AM

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So the PC is not powering as a whole? The only thing you've changed is the fans?

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Fans don't use molex?

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You're an insider

ornate ginkgo Apr 26, 2020, 2:46 AM

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Wait. Just to get clear.

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You installed new Fans, right?

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Or did you add some?

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Ok.

molten acorn Apr 26, 2020, 2:47 AM

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You didn't unseat the CPU power or the 24Pin PSU connector?

ornate ginkgo Apr 26, 2020, 2:47 AM

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Ok.

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yeah let's do one thing after the next ^^

molten acorn Apr 26, 2020, 2:48 AM

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:C

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Lavars

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you're grounded

ornate ginkgo Apr 26, 2020, 2:48 AM

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Yeah i should, good for building PCs

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dab

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hahaha

molten acorn Apr 26, 2020, 2:49 AM

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Sig

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h

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I forget

abstract kite Apr 26, 2020, 2:49 AM

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I have never grounded myself when building PCs

ornate ginkgo Apr 26, 2020, 2:49 AM

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You forgot what a genius comedian i am?

abstract kite Apr 26, 2020, 2:49 AM

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Lavars is comedy gold

ornate ginkgo Apr 26, 2020, 2:50 AM

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My english is as bad as my Cable management.

molten acorn Apr 26, 2020, 2:50 AM

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whoa

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your cable management is p good then

ornate ginkgo Apr 26, 2020, 2:51 AM

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let me try to get a decent photo, i only have a bad tablet with like... 0,1 mp xD

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📎 IMG_20200425_020556.jpg

abstract kite Apr 26, 2020, 2:54 AM

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Now that is hot

molten acorn Apr 26, 2020, 2:54 AM

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No

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U

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R HOT

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also that's

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vv nice

ornate ginkgo Apr 26, 2020, 2:54 AM

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Had to re-route some cables.

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Unheated things?

molten acorn Apr 26, 2020, 2:55 AM

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Um

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So basically long thingy connector is plugged in

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this should be on the right of the motherboard

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and then small thingy up top is connected

ornate ginkgo Apr 26, 2020, 2:56 AM

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You can see it on my photo x3

molten acorn Apr 26, 2020, 2:56 AM

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Lavars is a photo

ornate ginkgo Apr 26, 2020, 2:56 AM

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very flat?

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wow

molten acorn Apr 26, 2020, 2:56 AM

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wow

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Is that plugged in?

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Hm

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This is a doozy

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just turn the Power supply on

ornate ginkgo Apr 26, 2020, 3:00 AM

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Warden... what CPU do you have? just curios

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Please don't tell me you watercool a CPU you don't know which one it is ;_;

abstract kite Apr 26, 2020, 3:01 AM

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That's concerning

ornate ginkgo Apr 26, 2020, 3:01 AM

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I cry...

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I cry very loud now.

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Oh yeah right

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Intel i7-9700

abstract kite Apr 26, 2020, 3:02 AM

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That's not a bad cpu at all

ornate ginkgo Apr 26, 2020, 3:03 AM

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and a nvidia geforce 2060

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That's ok.

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Just forgot.

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I helped you with this other problem x3

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To many ppl

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and your name wasn't warden back then x3

granite basin Apr 26, 2020, 3:10 AM

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has anyone a recommendation for a 40 dollar keyboard

molten acorn Apr 26, 2020, 3:10 AM

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Well

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Did you unplug anything whilst installing new fans?

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Did you also turn the psu off?

ornate ginkgo Apr 26, 2020, 3:18 AM

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Have you checked if every connection is connected probably (sometimes they get lose when you move it etc.)

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Have you tried unplugging the new fan?

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Just to see if it works then?

full copper Apr 26, 2020, 3:31 AM

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check the power cables if they are connected and if it's still does not boot up
Then try manual boot up instead of pressing the power button

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But you should check if the ram and other stuff is connected well before you do the manual bootup

late sorrel Apr 26, 2020, 3:46 AM

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ducking shoot me

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ok not sure how to fix this

void perch Apr 26, 2020, 3:55 AM

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tried deleting the partitions on that drive?

late sorrel Apr 26, 2020, 3:55 AM

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yep

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there isn’t any

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gunna try that secure wipe

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@molten acorn where was that secure wipe?

void perch Apr 26, 2020, 3:56 AM

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or could try disconnecting the other drive, deleting all partitions and starting fresh, just making sure the other drive isn't there for windows to see

molten acorn Apr 26, 2020, 3:58 AM

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the secure wipe won't matter, do as doc suggested for now

lilac geyser Apr 26, 2020, 3:58 AM

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warden, in your second to last pic, looks like that cpu fan connector is a bit off ...is it properly connected? hard to tell at that angle

molten acorn Apr 26, 2020, 3:58 AM

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he still hasn't returned my Ily

late sorrel Apr 26, 2020, 3:59 AM

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yeah I wiped the partitions but I’ll get rid of the other drive

lilac geyser Apr 26, 2020, 4:01 AM

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it powers up?

late sorrel Apr 26, 2020, 4:04 AM

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ok thank god

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it is finally installing

lilac geyser Apr 26, 2020, 4:07 AM

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what do you msee on the screen?

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is the power button blinking?

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how many times are the light blinking in a row?

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you got to double check for me you have the R5 case? that's what it looked like in the pics

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if so, see this https://www.dell.com/support/manuals/us/en/04/alienware-aurora-r5-desktop/alienware-aurora-r5-sm/system-diagnostic-lights?guid=guid-a862de3c-1031-4adc-b3a5-c84676da1852&lang=en-us

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honestly that cpu fan connector looks like you shifed it over a bit, and for all i know that could cause that error

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*shifted

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in this pic https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/584808651164745809/703796735486722151/JPEG_20200425_193652.jpg

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also, it looks like you have an AIO cooler, i'm concerned that nothing is plugged into the pump connector

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please say if this is an aurora r5 or not

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and i forget, you said its the stock cpu cooler or you upgraded it?

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what cooler?

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and are you still under warrantly?

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i see reviews in 2019 for this

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call up dell

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it was working after you replaced the cooler?

pine lion Apr 26, 2020, 4:54 AM

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@late sorrel still having issues?

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sometimes you have to use command prompt to format drives.

late sorrel Apr 26, 2020, 4:56 AM

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nah I'm in windows now

pine lion Apr 26, 2020, 4:56 AM

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Gotcha ok.

fleet canopy Apr 26, 2020, 5:20 AM

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Nice

lilac geyser Apr 26, 2020, 5:56 AM

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/clap

fleet canopy Apr 26, 2020, 8:19 AM

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Oof

rain mason Apr 26, 2020, 9:02 AM

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@abstract kite Looking at the picture of the fan headers, the cpu fan doesnt look like its connect properly, it may be the angle of the photo, but look like you're one pin out...

pine lion Apr 26, 2020, 11:12 AM

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@abstract kite ah, so I scrolled up a bit there. it's a possible that card isn't pci in the slot all the way/.

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brisk badger Apr 26, 2020, 11:36 AM

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Moderatos != People who help in their spare time people's problem that cannot RTFM

full copper Apr 26, 2020, 11:54 AM

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I think you're making progress

pine lion Apr 26, 2020, 11:55 AM

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@brisk badger What do you possibly mean by that I tagged the mod's for a guy spammed across all channels .

brisk badger Apr 26, 2020, 11:58 AM

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it looked like you pinged moderators for someone's tech problem 😉 my bad sorry

abstract kite Apr 26, 2020, 12:13 PM

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Pinging the mods for Tec related problems is acceptable.

brisk badger Apr 26, 2020, 1:00 PM

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if it's about gtfo and the appropriate channel ( #gtfo-technical-support ) then I agree

scarlet pilot Apr 26, 2020, 1:56 PM

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Lavars is the Mod to ping for tech problems, but yes The Reaper pinged us for a post that is no longer there. ^^

ornate ginkgo Apr 26, 2020, 2:58 PM

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What about me :P

fleet canopy Apr 26, 2020, 7:12 PM

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Hm

merry bay Apr 26, 2020, 7:18 PM

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It's unclear, it could mean it starts to slow down since 60 degrees. But given what you had happening possible it shuts down too.

late sorrel Apr 26, 2020, 7:20 PM

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it should begin to kneecap itself

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then there’s a hard limit at like 95

molten acorn Apr 26, 2020, 7:21 PM

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Mmm

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Kneecap

lilac geyser Apr 26, 2020, 7:38 PM

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warden: it looks like that power management window is displaying the regular window power management settings

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so yeah sleep after 15 minutes (of inactivity)

pine lion Apr 26, 2020, 7:45 PM

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I have an oldergen command center. but there should be something listed thermal control.

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And then manual settings, you could always go to bios settings a do it there.

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Are you sure its your CPU causing shutdown, I mean if you have the WC there's little possibility that it's causing that issue.

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Well gpu is just your graphics card, if that overheated your pc wouldn't turn off it just wouldn't have display usally.

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Cpu is your chipset, is your chip "seated properly" It could be that when you replaced the stock cooler the chip isn't sitting correctly.

brisk badger Apr 26, 2020, 7:55 PM

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Did you check the Windows Event Viewer?

lime dome Apr 26, 2020, 8:05 PM

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I applied some graphic settings that required a restart. Upon restarting the game just crashes now, this is what it shows. I tried uninstalling the game, running the game through steam using safe mode. Any ideas 😦

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void perch Apr 26, 2020, 8:07 PM

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@lime dome

Press the Windows Key and the R key at some time. This will open a "Run" dialog.
Inside put the following in: %userprofile%\AppData\LocalLow\10 Chambers Collective\GTFO
Press enter. A new file explorer window will open.
Delete the settings file.

lime dome Apr 26, 2020, 8:18 PM

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Thanks! Deleting settings did not work, I deleted all the contents within that directory so it would remake on startup seems to be working now

late sorrel Apr 26, 2020, 8:39 PM

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ayyy

abstract kite Apr 27, 2020, 12:16 AM

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@abstract kite It could be your GPU failing to remount the game if there is a display crash, although i've only seen that one or twice and it was not in this game. In reality there are a lot of possible answers. Have you checked out your crash logs on windows?

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You also asked about "thermal limit". I'm not sure if anyone answered, but that is likely a metric for when your CPU will start to thermal throttle, essentially it will start to optimize itself for thermals by adjusting its clock speeds and such. However, this normally does not happen regularly on desktops with those types of coolers, as they normally have much better thermals. This is more of an annoyance for laptops.

white isle Apr 27, 2020, 6:16 AM

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/630899795137003521/694016827017265242/image8.gif

chrome heart Apr 27, 2020, 7:01 AM

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i can't wait to buy the pc ;-;

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@fleet canopy @knotty haven i might delay buying the pc for 1 month so i can do a vacation job & use that money to get to the 2080

fleet canopy Apr 27, 2020, 7:04 AM

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Oh?

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Well that's good kek

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But if the RTX 3000 is riiight around the corner, def wait for that

knotty haven Apr 27, 2020, 7:09 AM

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and if you have the money for it

fleet canopy Apr 27, 2020, 7:10 AM

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He does have the money to afford 1500$ PC

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But he might get something good

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Wait what resolution and refresh rate did you decide on? @chrome heart

chrome heart Apr 27, 2020, 7:10 AM

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i'm not gonna wait until september anymore for those new rtx'es

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@fleet canopy the 144hz one on 1440p

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ofc

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or

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should I wait? 🤔

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it's only 2 months

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I could pre-order

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depending on the price ofc

fleet canopy Apr 27, 2020, 7:12 AM

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Yeah if you can afford a 2080 or if 3080 comes before you actually decide to buy it or a little bit later, that's good

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I don't think 3080 would get too expensive

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Like keeping the price of a 2080 closely

chrome heart Apr 27, 2020, 7:12 AM

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i heard it would be same price

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i'm gonna start buying the parts when i get home

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in june

fleet canopy Apr 27, 2020, 7:12 AM

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Well I don't expect it to be too much more expensive

chrome heart Apr 27, 2020, 7:13 AM

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any idea when they give us an update on it?

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on the 30 series

fleet canopy Apr 27, 2020, 7:14 AM

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Well you can keep updates if you check up on news once in a while about NVIDIA, or see any of the updates on YouTube/whatever

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https://www.techradar.com/news/rtx-3080

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Closest to today

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August 2020 ish

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Said to be same price as 2080

jade ermine Apr 27, 2020, 7:46 AM

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next month we probably get new architecture reveal and i believe we gamers get more love closer to september

chrome heart Apr 27, 2020, 7:46 AM

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aight

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i might wait until the 30 series then

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pff

shrewd otter Apr 27, 2020, 9:24 AM

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Thoughts on the 16xx series GTX GPUs? I bought and installed a 1660 Ti this past weekend and seems good for what I play.

sick reef Apr 27, 2020, 9:37 AM

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GDDR6 being utilized by games?

shrewd otter Apr 27, 2020, 9:38 AM

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stoned idiot talk nothing to see here

sick reef Apr 27, 2020, 9:39 AM

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monakHmm

late sorrel Apr 27, 2020, 9:45 AM

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yeah seems ok

molten acorn Apr 27, 2020, 10:30 AM

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@sick reef give pc speks

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LMFAO

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You can give yours too

abstract kite Apr 27, 2020, 11:17 AM

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any news on DDR5

north bronze Apr 27, 2020, 2:17 PM

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📎 JPEG_20200427_161155.png

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finally received it

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my pc is complete

jade ermine Apr 27, 2020, 2:19 PM

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gz!

solemn orchid Apr 27, 2020, 2:20 PM

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daaaaamn

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that's a pretty pc lol

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also a VERY bright GPU

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2080ti?

north bronze Apr 27, 2020, 2:28 PM

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RTX 2070 Super

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I need to find games to test it out on

solemn orchid Apr 27, 2020, 2:35 PM

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~~GTFO~~

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Doom 2016 used to be my go-to benchmark

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but that's not nearly as hard to run nowadays

abstract kite Apr 27, 2020, 2:36 PM

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Oooo thats fancy!

solemn orchid Apr 27, 2020, 2:36 PM

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I usually use Ashes of the Singularity for CPU stress test, and The Witcher 3 for GPU stress test

abstract kite Apr 27, 2020, 2:37 PM

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I was about to build a new PC, but this whole thing kinda made that a harder decision haha

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Fur mark is a good GPU stress test if you’re trying to slam it

north bronze Apr 27, 2020, 3:03 PM

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ayyyy

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I tried a few games I used to lag on, no more lag

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i'm happy

solemn orchid Apr 27, 2020, 3:05 PM

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dude