#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk

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fleet canopy
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I have the exact same SSD I think lol

kind bobcat
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Amd is cheaper

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The cooling fan doesnt do much tho :/

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Lol

fleet canopy
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Yeah, but not too bad for just a stock

kind bobcat
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Yeah that’s true

fleet canopy
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I think there's a CPU cooler that's equal to DRP4, but much cheaper

kind bobcat
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Better than no rgb in my pc

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Ooh

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I did hear about that

fleet canopy
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Yeah

kind bobcat
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But since amd has a cooler, i guess it’s best to save money

fleet canopy
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True

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Unless it's not doing very well

kind bobcat
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Yeah

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Better to have a cooler in the package than none

fleet canopy
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Motherfucking 7700K is 570$ what

kind bobcat
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Amazon

fleet canopy
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Yeha lol

kind bobcat
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Worth tho

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I play osu and apex and it runs rly well

fleet canopy
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Single threaded maybe

kind bobcat
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And hey fun fact

fleet canopy
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Yeah?

kind bobcat
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My pc isnt even overclocked

fleet canopy
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Mine either lel

kind bobcat
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Lmao

fleet canopy
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Don't really plan to overclock the CPU anyways

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RAM, totally

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GPU, probably

kind bobcat
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Gpu is overclock-able

fleet canopy
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Yeah

kind bobcat
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Ram, idk

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Cpu, ehhh...

copper harness
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how much ram do you guys run on .__.)

kind bobcat
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Wat u mean by that

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Ngl tho

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I shouldve gotten the asus prime motherboard

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Asus makes the best motherboards for me at least

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@copper harness 16 gb of ram

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I got scammed tho

fleet canopy
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2x8GB DDR4-2400MHz CAS19

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lol

kind bobcat
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^

copper harness
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asus things kinda on the expensive side tho ;-;

kind bobcat
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No not rly

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Ill show u a build that i shouldve gotten

copper harness
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i forgot im using prime 250m-a XD

kind bobcat
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the asus i shouldve got is cheaper

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yeah that

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it's 70

fleet canopy
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700$ 2070

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Hm

kind bobcat
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the motherboard i got is $10 more

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it's...

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pricy... the gpu

copper harness
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im plannin to sell my current pc and build another lol

kind bobcat
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oooh

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good luck

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u can sell it for a higher price

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make some profit

fleet canopy
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Kek

kind bobcat
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too ez

fleet canopy
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Ok uhh

copper harness
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im gonna sell it to my bro

fleet canopy
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Is there any way for me to find my exact RAM?

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Like speed

copper harness
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gonna rip him off

kind bobcat
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the gpu is the most expensive part on my pc

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uhhh

copper harness
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task manager?

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XD

kind bobcat
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that... i forgot

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uhhh

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i think he meant something else

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OHH NVM

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im dumb

copper harness
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wat

fleet canopy
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That's mostly what I have now

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Some parts aren't exactly accurate, but they're close

abstract kite
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Honestly thats a really nice build

fleet canopy
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Yeah

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RAM is kind of ehh, but for an Intel build, pretty great

abstract kite
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You can easily OC it if you need, but yea intel doesnt really demand high speeds

fleet canopy
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Doing OC on it seems unnecessary, I don't really see a reason for it

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Unless you're Wooza

abstract kite
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Haha

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My ram is currently 3600 C16

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I know I can get it to 3800 C15

ornate ginkgo
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I don't talk about my ram.

abstract kite
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But I’ve not had any issues at its current speed

fleet canopy
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I feel as if some parts are somewhat a bit of a bottleneck tbh

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RAM, maybe

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7700K, probably since it's got 4 cores

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And nowadays you can get 6 cores for 100$

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Or 175$ if you're doing Ryzen 3000

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Or probably 85$ because 1600AF

abstract kite
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Architecture does have some play in that however

fleet canopy
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Indeed so

abstract kite
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Unless I’m wrong I think the 7700K is still a better option than a 1600AF

fleet canopy
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I mean

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Probably?

abstract kite
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Oh yea for sure it is

fleet canopy
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7700K is significantly better when it comes to games compared to 1600AF

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But that's a quick look

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So

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Uh

abstract kite
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Its still a good chip for another year or so

fleet canopy
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Yeah it's siiignificantly better in the latest

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1600AF is good for like the earlier games

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Mount and Blade, 1600AF get 6% more whatever the fuck it means

abstract kite
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I guess

fleet canopy
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Well it's just a small outlier

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I'd still recommend a 1600AF though, not much to give a shit about imo

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1600AF has twice more cache size pretty much

abstract kite
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For budget performance I’d agree

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You get more bang for your buck

fleet canopy
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Yeah

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But if you want a 7700K for who knows what reason

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Like if you're a babyface doing tests with CPUs against the 7700K while pushing it to the limits

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linus where r u

abstract kite
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at home upgrading his streaming setup

fleet canopy
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Kek

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Here's updated, with peripherals lol

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The G710 ain't lookin so good anymore

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Rosewill Ion D21 is pretty neat

abstract kite
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I just put together the main parts of my list (didnt include extra fans or anything like that). GPU price is way more than I payed but it is what it is I guess.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ynMGtp

My keyb is an Anne Pro 2, but PCPP didnt have that.

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And now I must disappear because today is busy.

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woosh

fleet canopy
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Damn, still got the 1070

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When are you ever switching out of that lmao

abstract kite
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Correction: Over half of those parts are way more than what I paid for them.

fleet canopy
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You got the money to afford all the other parts BUT THE GPU

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Ah

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But still lmao

eternal cairn
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The 1070 is still a good card though. 👍

fleet canopy
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Totally

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It'd be real nice to upgrade for Bearz though

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All the new parts, but still in the older gen with the 1070 haha

eternal cairn
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I mean, unless you upgrade to a 2080/2070 TI, the performance boost is probably negligible.

fleet canopy
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True

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Doesn't the 2060 Super beat the 1070

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Yeah by like a good 20%

vapid crypt
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Yeah its something like 1070ti - 1080

fleet canopy
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Well knowing Bearz, he's either getting a 2080 Super or waiting for RTX 3000

solemn orchid
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I'm waiting until rtx 3000 to upgrade again

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and I'm going all out

fleet canopy
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I mean, I guess I will as well

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Or it'll be the 3000 Super/4000

solemn orchid
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I can and will do anything necessary to afford a 3080ti

fleet canopy
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4700X with 4070 lol

solemn orchid
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well

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that's my next point

fleet canopy
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And plus, 3080 might be like

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Better than a 2080 Ti

solemn orchid
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I'm considering completely rebuilding my system around AMD

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I'm pretty tired of shittel

fleet canopy
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lol intel

abstract kite
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Waiting for 3000

fleet canopy
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Only worth is the 9900K

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Or 9700K

vapid crypt
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It should be better than the 2080ti yeah, outside of like 1gb less vram probably from the spec leaks

solemn orchid
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I have the 8700

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I really want to make the switch to ryzen

vapid crypt
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Have you seen the comet lake pricing? Its awful

fleet canopy
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I mean

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8700 isn't too bad

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Better than 4 cores lol

vapid crypt
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The i7 which is basically a 9900k will cost the same as the 3900x is going for right now

fleet canopy
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More cores or Intel 9700K, hm

vapid crypt
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Well the 10700k yeah

fleet canopy
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I might consider sticking with Intel if they won't be overpriced as shit maybe

vapid crypt
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You have to upgrade the motherboard either way so phaWesker

fleet canopy
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True

abstract kite
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Unless Ryzen 4000 has insanely high clock speeds, if you value clock speeds then it's best to stick with intel

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If you aren't really worried about them too much/dont use many frequency based applications, go with Ryzen

fleet canopy
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As long as I get a good amount of cores and clocks are good enough

abstract kite
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that's my viewpoint rn

vapid crypt
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I think they might reach 5ghz on a single core boost for Zen 3

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At least there's a good chance phaSheva

fleet canopy
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We might expect that

abstract kite
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It'll be interesting to see

fleet canopy
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I mean

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I can't overclock a CPU, can I?

abstract kite
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If it's not a toaster and can reach 5ghz on a single core, there's a high change you could reach an all core 5ghz OC

fleet canopy
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Yeah

vapid crypt
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I don't get the toaster analogy, toaster's aren't the hottest appliance PirateSimon

fleet canopy
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The sun

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Or just use liquid nitrogen in the CPU cooler lul

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But ehh

vapid crypt
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But yeah it won't be hot, cause the 3950x as it is will do 4.7 on a core or two while being cooler than a 9900k so phaSip

fleet canopy
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Shintel just boosting clock speed more

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I feel bad for them

abstract kite
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Might be enough of a compelling case to get me to jump up to a 4900X next year if we get high clock speeds

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kek

fleet canopy
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I will actually consider getting Intel if they ever do less than 14nm

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But yeah what bearz said

vapid crypt
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Alder lake should be 10nm+ or something

fleet canopy
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But when is Alder lake?

vapid crypt
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Heard it was 2021

fleet canopy
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Hm

vapid crypt
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I think that's yet another socket if I recall correctly

eternal cairn
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Honestly, a 1 GHz difference is hardly worth sacrificing more cores over in a processor.

fleet canopy
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A 1GHz difference is pretty big

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Isn't it?

vapid crypt
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If the IPC increase isn't significant, it could be

eternal cairn
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You probably shave off a few extra seconds in loading time.

vapid crypt
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The thing is Intel has been refining and further pushing clock speeds on 14nm for 5 years

eternal cairn
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But if you plan on only gaming, then I guess Intel is the way to go.

fleet canopy
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Exactly what makes it better having higher clocks

eternal cairn
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However, more games are starting to take advantage of multiple cores.

fleet canopy
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Yeah

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Although 7700K still beats 1600AF in newer games

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It could be the gaming effectiveness Intel has

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However the hell that one works

vapid crypt
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Sure, but what games? Cause not every game is utilizing more than 2 - 4 cores

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Battlefield 5 I heard will easily use 10 threads

eternal cairn
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True, but 2-4 cores is pretty much going to consume 75% of your CPU usage.

fleet canopy
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GWworkshopAkaShrug Maybe it's just the clock speed helping it

eternal cairn
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Clocking speed just makes it go through processing loads faster.

fleet canopy
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And the fact it used to or probably surprisingly still the best single core/threaded thingyyadk

vapid crypt
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What are you looking at, cause I bet it doesn't show you frame stutters

fleet canopy
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Posted link before

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Actually I didn't

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Still then, 1600AF is better if you ever need the benefit of newer manufacturing and double the cache

eternal cairn
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Ohhh. You were comparing the 1600AF and 7700K.

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I thought you were comparing the 7700k to a 3900x/3950x.

vapid crypt
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This doesn't really tell you much...

eternal cairn
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Then yeah, that 1 GHz difference will probably mean a lot in games.

vapid crypt
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Wait screw this site, it lists Grand Theft Auto VI phaWesker

fleet canopy
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lol

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I mean, it could be GTA4

vapid crypt
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Well that would IV

fleet canopy
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After all, you can mistype something

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And both is two same letters, different spot

vapid crypt
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If you click on it, it shows a fake GTA 6 logo

fleet canopy
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Wack

vapid crypt
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What the hell is being tested?

fleet canopy
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And it has the uhh

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Specs already

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GTA6 is fucking never happening I bet lol

vapid crypt
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Well it has predicted specs

fleet canopy
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Ah?

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I mean, I guess it's that

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But wtf yeah benchmark

eternal cairn
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Yeah, Rock$tar is already making a profit off their DLCs.

vapid crypt
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I think it will, but we won't hear about it for a while

fleet canopy
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Or it could be an assumption of CPU specs

vapid crypt
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They have their cash cow as it is

fleet canopy
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But like

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GTA is such a heavy game

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Not older ones ofc

eternal cairn
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I mean, Destiny 2 is already at 100 GB.

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And they're just shipping out disposable content.

fleet canopy
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That's why 500GB ain't going to cut it no more lol

vapid crypt
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Addons really add to the disk space

fleet canopy
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Games like R6S will need that SSD benefit

vapid crypt
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I uninstalled that game cause I got tired of it, I played it for long enough phaWesker

eternal cairn
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Same.

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Plus, the game is infested with hackers.

fleet canopy
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I've still not played a lot, only like 150 hours of it

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Infested with hackers?

vapid crypt
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I only dipped my toe into the pvp, so its not something I would know about

fleet canopy
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Hasn't been that bad

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It might be an older time of R6 you're talking about

eternal cairn
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PvP is an utter nightmare in Destiny 2. People on Twitter are even complaining.

fleet canopy
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lmao

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But people are playing it, no?

eternal cairn
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Plus, Bungie doesn't know shit about PC games, so they have no anti-cheat.

fleet canopy
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Oof

eternal cairn
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Only like <75,000.

abstract kite
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Allo, how much PSU power is needed to run 9900k + 2080ti setup?

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would 600W be enough

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to be exact 600W 80+ gold

charred nexus
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Depends on if you oc or not

abstract kite
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not

charred nexus
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Then yeah

eternal cairn
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Why no overclocking?

vapid crypt
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It would be enough, but forget about overclocking

charred nexus
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It'd be a little tight though

vapid crypt
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Kinda pointless to have the unclocked CPU just to not overclock it

fleet canopy
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I'd recommend 750W bronze I guess

charred nexus
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And if you're spending that much on components get a nice Seasonic 800w unit anyways

abstract kite
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im actually getting 3080ti

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not 2080ti

charred nexus
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Okay

vapid crypt
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That should have the same power use

charred nexus
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Well we don't know the power consumption on that

fleet canopy
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Isn't NVIDIA doing a smaller manufacturing for GPU as well?

vapid crypt
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They tend to target the 250w tdp range for that card

charred nexus
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tend is the key word

abstract kite
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i mean sure if i OC my 3080ti

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Ampere is dropping to 7nm @fleet canopy you're correct

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and 9900k too

vapid crypt
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Sure, there was talk of a 3090

abstract kite
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3080ti vs 3090?

fleet canopy
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Yeah

charred nexus
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Weren't the xx90 series usually dual gpus though?

vapid crypt
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Yeah

fleet canopy
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3090

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lol

vapid crypt
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But there's no evidence of them doing that

charred nexus
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I wouldn't bank on them doing a 3090 then

fleet canopy
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Ain't heard of a xx90 anything

vapid crypt
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Yeah it was for dual gpu cards

fleet canopy
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Just get 3080 or 3080 Ti

vapid crypt
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Like the 290 and 490

charred nexus
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Better yet, just save some cash and go for 2080S

abstract kite
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@vapid crypt lets say if i OC both 9900k and 3080ti.. would the 600W be enough then if they are like keeping it 250W

fleet canopy
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The GPUs from 2000 are supposed to be better than the 3000

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I mean

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Fucking

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Shit

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Aadsdas

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But a lot

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Better

abstract kite
fleet canopy
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I mean

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:)

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OkAy?

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Just get a 3080 or 3080 Ti

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And buy a 750W bronze or Gold cert

charred nexus
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TI cards tend to come a little later than the standards

fleet canopy
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Yeah

charred nexus
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So if they just want day one then go for 3080

abstract kite
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ok fuck that shit then im selling my overall pc and getting 1010000000W PLATINUM DIAMOND

vapid crypt
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If you can find a Bitfenix Whisper 750w, that's a pretty good power supply for the money

charred nexus
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I personally won't use any PSU that isn't BeQuiet, Seasonic, or EVGA

abstract kite
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why not Corsair

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xd

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im probs gonna go with 750W Corsair

charred nexus
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That's an awful question

vapid crypt
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The 2080ti was an exception, they released it with the initial stack

charred nexus
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Fuck Corsair units

abstract kite
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why do we fuck them

charred nexus
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They're literally rebadged and upsold Seasonic PSUs

abstract kite
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evga is literally like apple of gpus

fleet canopy
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.>

vapid crypt
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Well no that's uh Asus

charred nexus
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EVGA is also just Seasonic PSUs but they aren't upsold

fleet canopy
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EVGA is good, but Gigabyte is also pretty nice for GPU

abstract kite
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asus costs 100€ less than evga in my country

charred nexus
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For what?

vapid crypt
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Well that's not the case here phaWesker

abstract kite
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psu gpu

charred nexus
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For which ones?

abstract kite
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750W

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and 2080ti

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hence why i cba to get new PSU

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i mean technically fuck it now im going to

charred nexus
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Across the board or specific cards?

abstract kite
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cause i dislike my pc

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condition

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FTW

charred nexus
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FTW is EVGAs high end models

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No shit they're more than a reference Asus card

vapid crypt
abstract kite
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well there u go

charred nexus
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Also yeah them and techpowerup

vapid crypt
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Check this site out, this guy reviews PSUs; all kinds

charred nexus
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It's the same dude for both sites iirc

fleet canopy
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See about the EVGA 750W PSUs

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There's G5, dunno what its benefit is

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But eh

abstract kite
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i mean give me a link to a EVGA 750W gold fully modular

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and i will buy it

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im not getting semi modular

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cause that shit is

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shit

vapid crypt
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Wow phaWEsker

fleet canopy
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Hm?

vapid crypt
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I mean I could give you a link to a list of gold fully modular units I suppose

charred nexus
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Semi modular is almost identical to fully modular though 🤔

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The only difference is a cable you have to use anyways is always plugged in

fleet canopy
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The G5 apparently has a somewhat bigger fan, less noisy for more air transportation?

vapid crypt
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Basically the essential cables are hard wired on semi that's the only difference

charred nexus
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I mean if you care about noise I can wholeheartedly recommend the Be Quiet Straight Power 11

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Love this thing

lilac geyser
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you kids and you're modular power supplies, when i first started building computers there was no such thing

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and the old molex IDE power connectors were huge! have 4 extra ones you arent using cause you dont have 5 hard drives? better hope there was a place to put them

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i zip tied so many of them and just left them at teh bottom of the case

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because cases didnt really have a back panel and room for you to tuck them in

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not that it mattered because you were going to have like a 2 inch wide IDE data cable running across the mobo anyway

abstract kite
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GWcorbinTopKek ok boomer

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had to

fleet canopy
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D-d-damn bruhh!!! that roasstt!!1111!1 /s

dense wasp
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sweet IDE drives,
pinning master & slaves as well

copper zealot
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@lilac geyser bruh i still run off IDE and a turbo button

lilac geyser
abstract kite
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cough boomer quiz

crisp sage
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Is a 500w psu enough for a 2070s and a r7 3700x?

abstract kite
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@crisp sage Not at all.

fleet canopy
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You can look into a 750W Gold certificated

abstract kite
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^

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I have a 700W for my Rig. Works well for a 5700XT and a R7 3700x

proper wren
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650w gold+ recommended

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generally I would stick to 750w

crisp sage
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Alright

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Also I need help deciding on the gpu

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can get the 5700 xt for significantly cheaper

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is that slight performance worth the extra 200

fleet canopy
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Depends on your budget

knotty haven
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Yes

fleet canopy
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Honestly, with how things have had been for AMD's GPUs

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I'd just stick with NVIDIA

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What resolution do you want to aim for?

crisp sage
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1080p 144

fleet canopy
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Well yeah, a 2070 Super/5700XT is sort of overkill tbh

crisp sage
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lmaoo, ik, but the future proof

fleet canopy
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Ah

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Well you can get a 2070 Super if you want, or wait for the RTX 3000

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Well you'll be doing 1080p 144hz actually so that's not too bad

crisp sage
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I mean I found a Rx 5700xt for 585ausd

fleet canopy
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Ah, I see

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And what about the 2070 Super?

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I know currency is weird and some are fairly cheaper, despite it being more overpriced than a cheaper part in another currency

crisp sage
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849

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have the black screens and crashes been fixed for the 5700

abstract kite
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@crisp sage From my experience with the new updates they have stopped. Now that does not mean you will not have problems.

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I would put my money on the 2070s

crisp sage
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585 v 849?

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dollars*

abstract kite
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2070s is $849?

crisp sage
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ln Australia

abstract kite
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Jesus

crisp sage
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thats the cheapest one aswell

abstract kite
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OOF

crisp sage
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Yeahhh, so that's why I'm debating what to get. is the 200 dollar price difference really worth it

abstract kite
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Uhm

fleet canopy
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Christ

abstract kite
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What is the 5700XT you are gonna get?

fleet canopy
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5700XT

abstract kite
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^

fleet canopy
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580$ ish

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They did release new drivers that fixed the problem

abstract kite
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They did

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But some say they still have bugs here and there,

fleet canopy
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It'll be fixed eventually

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5700XT is literally the best GPU AMD owns

crisp sage
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like I have a 1060 rn with a r7 3700x, kinda need to upgrade it. just not sure to which card

abstract kite
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My honest opinion @crisp sage is when you get the 5700XT is to turn off all of the "Enhancing Features" even more so VSync.

crisp sage
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ew, vsync

abstract kite
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Turn it off as soon as you are able to open your Adrenline

fleet canopy
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Hold on

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What about a 1080 Ti?

abstract kite
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Pffft

fleet canopy
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Cause that can go pretty cheap

abstract kite
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Those things are over $1000

fleet canopy
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Well shit lol

crisp sage
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LMAOOO the cheapest 1080 ti I found was 1800

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oh wait

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980

abstract kite
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Oh excuse me

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1080: I won't drain your bank account... yet...

crisp sage
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it's used doe

abstract kite
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Yeah, fuck that.

crisp sage
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he do be Bitcoin mining it 👀👀👀

abstract kite
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I wouldn't get any parts used tbh.

crisp sage
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ye

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someone bought my old 1600 for 70 bucks

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And does the ASUS TUF 5700xt have any problems for itself?

abstract kite
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There have been "GPUs" people buy where it isnt even a GPU. The thing is a chip board, you plug it into yout PCI Slots and your entire system just dies.

crisp sage
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That is very unfortunate

fleet canopy
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Yikes

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And is that the cheapest GPU?

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Cheapest 5700XT, I mean

crisp sage
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mhm

fleet canopy
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Ah

abstract kite
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XFX - AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT 8GB GDDR6 PCI Express 4.0 Graphics Card - Black

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This is my GPU

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XFX variety.

crisp sage
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Ooo

jade girder
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can GTX 860m run this game?
my friend wants to try it out

crisp sage
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aslong asnhe doesn't get 2 hours on the game, he can test it then refund it

jade girder
#

okay I'll tell him about that, thanks

crisp sage
#

Just double check the rule.

#

I'm not 100 percent certain @jade girder

jade girder
#

Less than 2 hours of playing and 2 weeks after purchase, yeah

rancid marten
#

Anyone know where a serial number on a Monitor

fleet canopy
#

On the back I guess?

rancid marten
fleet canopy
#

Damn bruh

#

What'd you do?

#

And the serial number is on the barcode sticker I believe

rancid marten
#

I move something in my room and it knocked over the Monitor twice

fleet canopy
#

Daaamn

#

That fucking sucks

ornate ginkgo
#

What did you move?

#

And there should be a sticker on the back .

#

With the serial number.

rancid marten
#

My bed. And the and the monitor was not cheap

fleet canopy
#

Yes I say

ornate ginkgo
#

🤔

#

How....

fleet canopy
#

My bed is next to my desk

#

Like right next to it

#

It can happen

rancid marten
fleet canopy
#

Ah

#

A small space

ornate ginkgo
#

Is this a curved 4:3 screen?

#

Looks so weird xD

#

on this photo at least

fleet canopy
#

Looks like it

rancid marten
rancid marten
#

Here’s a invoice

lilac geyser
#

but now you get to upgrade!

#

240 Hz, FreeSync 2, 2k monitor

rancid marten
#

Sounds like a good Replacement

lilac geyser
#

damn, you owned it for less than a month

rancid marten
#

I brought it and it delivered just before lock down

lilac geyser
#

r

rancid marten
#

And I think it is under warranty

lilac geyser
#

er, f

ornate ginkgo
rancid marten
#

And monitor is on sale but but higher priced 500 dollars

ornate ginkgo
#

I got mine from a friend who moved togehter with his gf. Lavarsidk

rancid marten
#

Oh I got free keyboard

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From My Nannas place

ornate ginkgo
#

Awesome!

#

I take everything free xD

rancid marten
#

It’s a Windows Keyboard

ornate ginkgo
#

As long as it does it's job.

#

I have a 10€ keyboard.

#

It's enough

rancid marten
ornate ginkgo
#

i have a amazon basic keyboard xD

rancid marten
#

I think I found S number

ornate ginkgo
#

yep

rancid marten
exotic rampart
#

Got hold of Company
@rancid marten looks like a broken curved screen?

ornate ginkgo
#

🤔 Na, update bios should fix it

exotic rampart
#

Maybe switching it off and on again works 😏

ornate ginkgo
#

Pfft, who's the tech support here?

exotic rampart
#

I guess Ludvig or you? 😂

ornate ginkgo
#

ludvig is the dev.

#

x3

exotic rampart
#

Who knows he could be IT Support

ornate ginkgo
exotic rampart
#

Anyways how your doing @ornate ginkgo 😏

knotty haven
#

Uwu

sick reef
#

I didn't think my membrane keyboard was that bad until I switched to a mechanical and realised why I had had such troubles counterstrafing in CS.

#

As my membrane lagged behind in inputs, making it hold down keys for longer than I held down the key myself.

#

Modern membranes aren't bad, but they are not as accurate as mechanical input, when you try to achieve highest possible accuracy.

crisp sage
#

Thats actually facts

#

I used to have a synosa chroma keyboard I was like "holy shit! this is better then that dell keyboard!" then I got the G PRO and oh my... I've been playing with shit for agesss

proper wren
#

oki

#

whats your computer specs

#

what games do you plan to play

#

@vale marsh

vale marsh
#

AMD Ryzen 5 2600 Six-Core Processor
GeForce RTX 2060

fleet canopy
#

Not too bad

vale marsh
#

and i plan to pay all games on pc and stream

fleet canopy
#

Can do

proper wren
#

You can run ultra settings 1080p fine then

#

even 1440p if you want

#

Do you care about the color contrast alot?

fleet canopy
#

If you like a bit of color, get a VA

balmy hornet
#

so I'm on a Ryzen 5 2600 and a GTX 1060 3GB. Could I run this game @ 1080p 60fps

fleet canopy
#

I think those go for around 230$

vale marsh
#

color no

fleet canopy
#

Ok you’re fine. You might be interested in a monitor that’s about 150$

proper wren
#

@balmy hornet yes

balmy hornet
#

coolio cheers. would my friend be able to as well? he's got 8gb ram and i have 16

proper wren
#

Acer kg241q is still a fine monitor to have

#

if you want to step it up a little bit more there's also the benq series and LG

#

8 gbs is still fine

balmy hornet
#

cool. was just deciding between this game and others for my smallish budget

proper wren
#

you're looking at medium-high settings

#

sep

balmy hornet
#

alright cool! Gonna stay on low tho with high aa

proper wren
#

oki

balmy hornet
#

btw in games like fo76, i get stuttering while my 2 friends with the same gpu and an intel processor get none

#

any ideas?

vale marsh
#

my friend keeps insisting I get an acer cause he said its more reliable but as long as i can get 144hz with 1080p im fine

abstract kite
#

Well

proper wren
#

driver?

abstract kite
#

The only thing I can think of for you is playing Fo76 in the first place.

balmy hornet
#

all my drivers are up to date and stuff

abstract kite
#

That is your punishment.

fleet canopy
#

It doesn’t matter about the brand @vale marsh

balmy hornet
#

@abstract kite it isnt just fo76. PUBG is an example

#

and MW Warzone

#

and State of decay 2

abstract kite
#

Well having it installed on your device.

fleet canopy
#

It’s probably cause of the 3GB?

proper wren
#

3 gbs prob

balmy hornet
#

@fleet canopy nope sadly. my mates have the same card

#

they never have issues

fleet canopy
#

Ah

proper wren
#

its fo76 after all lol

fleet canopy
#

And they have an intel cpu you say?

balmy hornet
#

it happens in random games. Even in games like Hunter call of the wild, 60fps but feels like 30fps

#

Yup.

vale marsh
#

Alright so that link I sent should be good enough for me then

fleet canopy
#

That’s probably like, the Intel’s side for them having been good with games compared with AMD

balmy hornet
#

in 80% of games my pc is fine. Valorant, Sea of Thieves etc

proper wren
#

intel cpus are good with most games compared to amd

#

dat single core

balmy hornet
#

i guess i'll save for an i7 then

#

after upgrading my gpu

fleet canopy
#

Newer games are now going to be using multithreaded soooo

balmy hornet
#

getting a rtx 2060 sometime this year

#

i have six cores, is that good

fleet canopy
#

Wait for the RTX 3000

balmy hornet
#

alrighty

proper wren
#

2600 is still fine lol

#

what mobo do you have

balmy hornet
#

gigabyte b450m gaming

fleet canopy
#

They might have a good price, or not then you might see some slight price drop

proper wren
#

and cpu sep?

balmy hornet
#

ryzen 5 2600 six core 3.9ghz

proper wren
#

can replace it with 3700x in the future if you want when gen 4 announces and get shipped

#

Every AMD announcement and shipment they slash their prices down dramatically

fleet canopy
#

You might as well wait and see what happens with parts

balmy hornet
#

coolio. I had the choice to buy a RTX 2060 a few weeks ago but then animal crossing made me go wild for a switch

proper wren
#

Black Friday~

balmy hornet
#

as long as my pc doesnt fail me on playing Valorant, im happy

fleet canopy
#

Plus if spring sale might be soon, there’s that

proper wren
#

pretty much

balmy hornet
#

i wont have any money till june now. just spent it all on a switch

fleet canopy
#

Kek

balmy hornet
#

i'll just have to rip playing fo76

proper wren
vale marsh
#

Thanks for the help guys finally bought the monitor

proper wren
#

check for dead pixels when you try it out

vale marsh
#

Still kinda new to pc so don't know how to do that

proper wren
#

basically to see if there's a pixel that's not responding to the color

#

Manufactures will take back defect monitors depending on how many dead pixels there are. I know Amazon might replace it if there is one or two. Asus around 4-5+ etc.

vale marsh
#

Will do it once it comes in thank you a lot @proper wren

proper wren
#

np

abstract kite
#

Hm

#

I should think about upgrading my PC Case Fans.

#

Any solid recommendations for 120mm+?

#

Oh

#

And a Aftermarket Heatsink

abstract kite
#

Are you wanting RGB or are you looking for pure function @abstract kite?

crisp sage
#

Anyone know of a cheap 650w fully modular PSU?

vapid crypt
#

What's your budget?

#

Cause generally for any good PSU, fully modular does cost a bit more than otherwise. There are exceptions, but I did say any good PSU

crisp sage
#

Dont have one, just need one that is fully modular and works on a 5700xt and a ryzen 7 3700x

crisp sage
#

Ive decided to go with the Thermaltake 750W Smart Pro RGB Bronze Fully Modular Power Supply

fleet canopy
#

The Smart Pro RGB

#

U h

abstract kite
#

@abstract kite rgb pls

#

And functional lol

#

Corsair LL fans are really good.

#

I use them in my own build

#

Are they quiet when going on high speeds?

#

Very. I hear my noctuas more than them

#

These are 120mm fans?

#

What about a Heatsink?

obsidian bobcat
fleet canopy
#

Oooh

#

Looks pretty nice

proper wren
#

All it needs few cable managements for the back of the sys and monitors

abstract kite
#

@abstract kite Just finished up a game, what type of heatsink are you trying to get and for what processor?

#

the corsair fans come in 140mm and 120mm

#

R7 3700x

proper wren
#

Corsair fans are pretty good for ll series

abstract kite
#

You wanting air cooling right Galerus?

#

What is your budget

obsidian bobcat
#

@proper wren I’m planning on getting a cable rack for under my desk and gonna sort out my desk cable management then

#

So that’s coming!

proper wren
#

Noiceu

fleet canopy
#

By heatsink, you'd mean like CPU cooler pretty much?

#

Could get a good one, and stick some good quality RGB fans on it

proper wren
#

Be quiet pure rock is decent

#

Budget aio deepcool

lilac geyser
#

mill your case out of a block of aluminum, all passive cooling

proper wren
#

ml240 from CM

#

Or ml280

abstract kite
#

@abstract kite What is a good price for one?

#

You wanting air cooling right Galerus?
And yes

lilac geyser
#

for a block of aluminum big enough, probably four digits

abstract kite
#

Primer you know what I meant.

proper wren
#

Rgb as well?

abstract kite
#

For an air cooler, $80 is a good area for a top notch cooler.

crisp sage
#

@fleet canopy I know the psu sounds aids but it'll do the job

abstract kite
#

I would recommend either a Be Quiet! Dark Rock 4 Pro (I have it on my rig + a 3700X) and it keeps me well within spec.

Alternatively you can get a Noctua NH-d15 which is also a fantastic cooler

#

they're both basically the same in performance level

crisp sage
#

Also I need setup tips, so basically I have a dual monitor mount but my second monitor is kinda big so to have it facing towards me it's slightly cut off, any idea how I can work arround it (fix it)

proper wren
#

@abstract kite whats your case size?

#

And is your ram lpx?

abstract kite
#

^ this is a good question

proper wren
#

My technician always tells me to check dimensions now in sys builds lol

abstract kite
#

Lpx?

proper wren
#

Low profile ram

#

Height clearance

abstract kite
#

Mmm

#

If you don't have low profile ram (like me) and assuming you have the space for it, the DRP4 is the best cooler I can recommend.

LPX is a low profile ram made by Corsair.

proper wren
#

^

lilac geyser
#

smaller case dimensions will drastically reduce the cost of the aluminum block

proper wren
#

You're going against tdp and airflow as well

#

Rule of thumb for me, I never go under 6 heat pipes

abstract kite
#

I have the DDr4 32gb Vengeance if that tells you anything.

#

Yhese

proper wren
#

You're good for Dark Rock Pro 4

abstract kite
#

Really?

#

You're good for either DRP4 or NH-D15

proper wren
#

Want to see some builds I've done?

abstract kite
#

DRP4 doesn't matter how high your ram is really

proper wren
abstract kite
#

Trident Z/Neo ram fits

proper wren
#

Dats a dark rock pro 4

abstract kite
#

That looks nice ngl

#

Now I want to post mine lol

#

Do it

#

Hm

proper wren
#

Dats my 2070 nightmare that killed my m.2

lilac geyser
abstract kite
#

I'm afraid to take my current cooler off

proper wren
#

Mmm seasonic

abstract kite
#

Here is my build

proper wren
abstract kite
#

I seen builds where they take off the cooler and the CPU comes out with it.

proper wren
#

Smexy

abstract kite
#

Sometimes that can happen yea

#

but it's not that big of a deal

proper wren
#

This was a nightmare

abstract kite
#

Yikes

proper wren
#

$15k build per system and 7 in total to do

#

All 7 tx 750m died

#

Bad bulk

kind bobcat
#

the wiring is a nightmare in general @proper wren

#

get a case that assist u with the wiring so it's easier like the nzxt

proper wren
#

No side panel and the company dowsnt care about the cable management

#

Is for deep learning

kind bobcat
#

oh i thought u were talking about cable management

#

mb

proper wren
#

No side panel window I mean

kind bobcat
#

yeah i figured

#

mb

abstract kite
#

Gonna get the Dark Rock Pro 4.

#

Imo looks nicer than the other one you guys sent

#

Its only $11 more, but whatever.

#

Go for it.

#

One of the best air coolers out there

#

DRP4 gang

#

Are you also using that?

proper wren
#

I wanted that cooler but my store didn't have it at the time

#

and I wanted staff discount lol

abstract kite
#

Yep!

#

Lol

#

It's in my build that I posted earlier

#

The purple one

#

In mah PC lol

#

Wish my case had the Clarence for the top fan like yours does.

#

I have the meshify c

#

great case

crisp sage
#

@proper wren I'd recommend getting a case that hides the psu, makes cable management so much easier

proper wren
#

no window side panel and all 7 were shipped last Aug

fleet canopy
#

I too use it

abstract kite
#

There's a vent there with mounting for a 120 or 150mm, but not enough Clarence from the CPU Cooler.

fleet canopy
#

DRP4 is epic

proper wren
#

Every case I recommend has a basement

abstract kite
#

Mine does as well

#

If you don't have the clearance for the top fan it's okay

#

you have a 150mm/155mm(?) in between the stacks on the DRP4 and a 140mm on the front

#

might have those dimensions wrong but they're very close.

#

I hear that some CPU Coolers extend to your RAM to also help cool them off.

#

I think that's true? I don't think that's the case for the DRP4

#

it does extend over the ram though

#

but it's designed in a way that you shouldn't have clearance issues

#

Okay

#

One more thing

#

going to send you a picture of it in my case so you see how it fits over the ram

#

What should I use for Thermal Paste to reapply for the new DRP4?

fleet canopy
#

Use grizzly

#

forgot actual name

abstract kite
#

And what can I use to remove the old spread?

fleet canopy
#

But it's grizzly something

abstract kite
#

Kryonaut muppy?

fleet canopy
#

Yeah

abstract kite
fleet canopy
#

Old spread can be removed with cleaning alcohol ofc

abstract kite
#

Ignore the fact that I'm too lazy to pull one of the unused ram slot tabs back up

#

I just don't want to take the glass off as it's not hurting anything the way that it si

#

*is

#

I'm looking at it pragmatically

#

It works so not going to bother it

#

And watch you put that pin down and your PC just shuts off like its offended xD

#

LOL

#

With my luck, that might just happen

sick reef
#

You mean the non-conductive plastic tab?

#

Do rather think you're fine. Okayge

fair cedar
#

@ionic kite @viscid prism Like I said, it's on the side and unobscured.

viscid prism
#

That's so cool

ionic kite
#

that makes more sense, now i've seen it

fair cedar
#

It would be so cool to have a bonk loop or something XD

abstract kite
#

Not sure what kind of cleaning alcohol I should use.

proper wren
#

isopropyl alcohol works best

#

papertowel as well

#

make sure papertowel doesn't rip easily

abstract kite
#

Does the % matter?

#

I see 70% - 99%

proper wren
#

either works

#

but I stick to 99% to get it alllll offf

proper wren
#

extremely expensive

abstract kite
#

Out of Stock

proper wren
abstract kite
#

Oh nice, this was my next question. Gonna save that video

hexed horizon
#

Cringe

proper wren
#

yeah isopropyl alcohol is limited at the moment due to cov-19 in stores

abstract kite
#

For everything we talked about getting the full price for everything is $330

proper wren
#

what parts are you getting again?

abstract kite
#

DRP4, Corsair LL Series 120mm 3 Pack, Grizzly Conductonaut Thermal Grease, 950ml of 99% Pre Isopropyl Alcohol.

Other things is a 4-Port 3.0 USB Hub, Warranties for the Fans and the DRP4.

proper wren
#

don't really need warranty for drp4 since is a heatsink mount

#

aircooling

abstract kite
#

No?

proper wren
#

is not worth it

#

The only time you should depends on the component like mobo, cpu, vc, monitor, etc.

abstract kite
#

I regret getting my CPU and MOBO from BestBuy. Fuckers don't offer a warranty on those.

proper wren
#

there's manufacturer warranty

abstract kite
#

Mhm

proper wren
#

AMD is very reliable when it comes to it

#

Mobo depends on which brand is from

#

they come with 2-5 yr depending

abstract kite
#

MSI B450

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

proper wren
#

yeah has 3 yr on it lol

abstract kite
#

I honestly really like this board.

proper wren
#

tomahawk?

abstract kite
#

Yep

proper wren
#

is reliable and decent overclocker

abstract kite
#

Dropping that warranty dropped the price to $307

#

Not bad.

proper wren
#

getting from amazon right?

abstract kite
#

Yep

proper wren
#

okie before you purchase let me see if you have enough fan headers

#

what case do you have

abstract kite
#

Fuck if I know honestly xD

proper wren
#

lol

abstract kite
#

This use to be a pre-built.

jade ermine
#

You can just walk in to closest pharmacy and get bottle of iso from there

proper wren
#

^

#

basically like $2-8USD

jade ermine
#
  • you don't need it much, smallest bottle they have will serve you well
proper wren
#

if it was a prebuilt does it have any logos outside of it lol

proper wren
#

jesus this mb has 6 fan headers lol

abstract kite
#

This, but without the 3 vents at the top

#

Has 4

#

One on the back, One on the Top, Two on the Side.

proper wren
#

okies

#

is a e-atx case assuming

abstract kite
#

Don't mind the reflection.

proper wren
#

atx case

abstract kite
#

So are you looking to see if it the items would fit?

proper wren
#

It will fit

#

is more like the rgb header concern

#

also do you have any front clearance for the rgb fans?

abstract kite
#

I should have plenty of room

#

The fans inside this case are 120mm... so is the LL Fans... should be enough, right?

#

Can't be to much bigger I would think.

proper wren
#

as long as they fit in the case with the correct size yes

#

gonna need to nappies, squirrel can help you if he has the time

abstract kite
#

Ordered everything

fleet canopy
#

Neat

tall herald
#

pardon me if this doesn't count as "tech talk", but what exactly does it mean that gtfo is p2p?

fleet canopy
#

Player to player

tall herald
#

afaik p2p is everyone with everyone, but the game has a host? doesn't that make the host basically a server?

fleet canopy
#

It's the player hosting

#

They don't use any dedicated servers to host the lobby is pretty much what it means

tall herald
#

but that doesn't make it count as p2p, it can also mean that the server is hosted on a player's computer in the same process as the game

fleet canopy
#

Pretty much yeah

#

It's hosted by the player

tall herald
#

but in that case it's not peer to peer

finite violet
#

The client-server model can be mixed with the p2p model

#

Considering that, if the host lags, the game lags for everyone. While if a non-host lags, only that specific person will lag.
I'm pretty convinced that the host does play as a "server" part for this game.

#

That however doesn't mean that the clients can only communicate with the server, a p2p connection is still possible where you're exchanging data with other clients

late sorrel
#

to my knowledge one player does act as a server for the other players

tall herald
#

So some data goes p1-host-p2 while other would go p1-p2? That seems really weird

finite violet
#

Well, using client-server to send something from client 1 to client 2 would be slower

#

having one server allows that specific server to be in control

#

I honestly can't help much with this because I only learned the basics of networking

tall herald
#

I don't know the specifics but having to send shit to all 3 teammates instead of to just one and let the best internet (host) do it doesn't sound faster in practice

#

Idk shit about networking either

#

But that's probably why I'm so confused

balmy hornet
#

i get fps drops to like 50 on low settings gtx 1060 3gb. any ideas? @proper wren

finite violet
#

p2p doesn't mean sending it to everyone

#

you send it to whoever needs it

tall herald
#

Sounds like a ton of work to get that optimized

finite violet
#

Yeh

#

client-server is easier to implement

balmy hornet
#

i'll just play valorant till poddy responds

tall herald
#

Wish i could see direct comparisons and play for myself with both versions

vapid crypt
#

@balmy hornet If its dropping when enemies are spawning from an alarm or a scout, that's actually fairly typical

molten acorn
#

Pro Tip: Turn off Game Mode in the Windows settings .

#

Ironic that it helps run games better off than on on.

rancid marten
dense wasp
hexed horizon
#

its gone

#

remove that ping

crisp sage
#

oh

#

yay

hexed horizon
#

nice PSU, Ludvig!

#

wait tahts not a PSU

#

anyway

crisp sage
#

LMFAOO

#

thats da mobo

hexed horizon
#

I didn't quite read what he said

crisp sage
#

I ordered a 5700xt should be great :D

hexed horizon
#

noice

dense wasp
#

😄

#

Waiting for a Corsair SF750

#

small one

sleek forge
#

he'll be able to reply to those "WHY U NO WORK?!?!?" bug reports 3 times faster soon.

fleet canopy
#

kek

jade ermine
#

@dense wasp You better take few pics when you are putting it together!

frosty wharf
#

the problem is, some of the parts are offsale

#

so what do i do

proper wren
#

i'll just play valorant till poddy responds
@balmy hornet Like El Demonio said, depending on the amount of enemies spawning from alarms and is also possible that the 1060 3gb is a bottle neck to the r5 2600 (Possible). If you want to save up on graphics card budget you can go for 5600xt if you're going full 1080p gameplay or 1660 super. 1660ti is great as well but you're paying additional $40 for extra 1% performance and you won't be using gddr6 and extra memory speed. No compromises and future upgrades you can go for RTX 2060 and call it a day

fleet canopy
#

So you say some aren't on the store or anything like that?

frosty wharf
#

Correct

fleet canopy
#

America, yeah?

frosty wharf
#

Yep

fleet canopy
#

Those prices on a 2070 is a joke wut

#

I only see them at 750-850$ >.>

#

There is a different MSI one, same 2070 at a 500$ price

#

If you can't see it available on PCPP, just search it

proper wren
#

The 2070 prices is a very big joke lol

fleet canopy
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Yeah haha

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I can however change it to something good with 1500$ if you want

proper wren
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I seen some of it go down as $450 CAD on MSI

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even $420

frosty wharf
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Yeah that works aswell

fleet canopy
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It'll be purely gaming yeah?

frosty wharf
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Yep

fleet canopy
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No overclocking?

frosty wharf
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Nope

proper wren
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I never heard of inland ssd o.O

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and dat thermaltake smart though lol

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Don't pair it won't 2070

fleet canopy
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Need a monitor? @frosty wharf

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Any peripherals?

frosty wharf
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Ah shoot, yeah i need a monitor

fleet canopy
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lmao that's fine

proper wren
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is it going to be 1440p gaming?

fleet canopy
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I'm getting a build that'll easily do 1440p 144hz loool

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Want it with some RGB or nah?

frosty wharf
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Sure

proper wren
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Let me throw a part picker list for fun lol

fleet canopy
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Sliiiightly over 1500$

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1530$ for me

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:)))

frosty wharf
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should be alright!

fleet canopy
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Now for the monitor

full copper
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16gb enough you sure?

fleet canopy
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YEah

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That's all you need for gaming

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It'd be hard trying to find similar priced 32GB kit

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But I can try

full copper
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I was building mine so sorry I looked up yours too

fleet canopy
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Arg those 1440p 144hz ain't cheap lmao

proper wren
frosty wharf
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Here what i have currently
Asus Laptop:
Intel Core i7-8550U
Intel UHD Graphics 620
16 GB RAM
1 TB

full copper
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basically you need a graphics card

fleet canopy
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I do have one

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RTX 2080

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lol

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Mega epic card

frosty wharf
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A problem i keep running into on this laptop aswell is that, every game i play will set itself to the high settings by default.

proper wren
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surprising with that laptop spec it doesnt have a gpu

full copper
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and at least 2 TB hdd

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ikr

proper wren
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very uncommon

fleet canopy
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True