#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk

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fleet canopy
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Pretty sure I would eventually use up all 16GB kek

abstract kite
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dats prolly plenty

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heh

fleet canopy
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True

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I'm still getting 32GB anyways LULW

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I need the 3200-3600MHz for Ryzen

dense wasp
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32gb pleb

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😄

fleet canopy
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3GB

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Nice

dense wasp
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😦

abstract kite
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32 is worth it lowkey if ya have the extra monies

fleet canopy
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Whaaat? 3GB is plenty

abstract kite
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you don't have to worry about it wihich is big nice, is this the next gen ryzen?

fleet canopy
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I'm trying to get hands on a 32GB DDR4-3200MHz CAS14 or 3600MHz CAS15

ornate ginkgo
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^

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Good choice :D

fleet canopy
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Not much of 3600MHz CAS15 sadly, so 3200MHz CAS14

ornate ginkgo
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But then overclock it to 4000MHz

abstract kite
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fu* it DDR29

fleet canopy
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I'll more likely just pick up the 4700X/4800X, but who says it was illegal for me to get 3900X

ornate ginkgo
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x3

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get the 3950

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if you wanna go all in

fleet canopy
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Kek

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I mean 4900X

ornate ginkgo
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LMAO

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oh ok

fleet canopy
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kek

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700$ though >.>

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But hey, not bad of a CPU

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3900X seems much better imo though

fleet canopy
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There's not much difference between the 3900X 3950X I guess?

ornate ginkgo
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There is

fleet canopy
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12C and 16C?

ornate ginkgo
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yep

abstract kite
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that is like

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a lot

fleet canopy
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Not a lot of difference then

ornate ginkgo
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That is a lot

abstract kite
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not gonna help for gaems

ornate ginkgo
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true

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But for rendering 3D

abstract kite
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yessir

fleet canopy
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Unless I were to do multi threaded applications

cyan rampart
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Lavars uwu

ornate ginkgo
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Or even 2D x3

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YEP YEP

cyan rampart
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Imma dm you something since here it would be considered spam

ornate ginkgo
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kk

cyan rampart
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:3

fleet canopy
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I just 3900X and 2080Ti/3080Ti for the sexy 60FPS minesweeper

ornate ginkgo
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WOW

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60FPS?

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but only 720p

fleet canopy
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Yeah

ornate ginkgo
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but raytracing

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xD

fleet canopy
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True, ray tracing cool

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Ray traced minesweeper

dense wasp
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I'll hopefully be getting my parts next week

ornate ginkgo
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NOICE

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Do we get our Bugs in 4k then LMAO

abstract kite
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I love ray tracing

fleet canopy
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1440p 144hz uwu

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I want 2080 Ti for the ray tracing on 1440p pretty much lol

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And 144hz on most games

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Then buy a 4K TV

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Lol

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Someday

abstract kite
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It's really cool! have you seen the quick root code in quakes code lel

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the comments are funi

fleet canopy
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No?

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Tried RTX quake

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36FPS

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lol

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With 2070 Super

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7700K

ornate ginkgo
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LUL

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i mean

fleet canopy
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Fucking 7700K

ornate ginkgo
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i will burry my old 780ti.

fleet canopy
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Why'd this one have to be 4 cores :(

ornate ginkgo
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with the amd FX8320

fleet canopy
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Use it for a secondary PC

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For like

abstract kite
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am allowed to post a picture?

fleet canopy
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Other stuff I guess

abstract kite
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of it?

fleet canopy
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If PC related, yes

abstract kite
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it is tech

fleet canopy
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Yes

abstract kite
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float Q_rsqrt( float number )
{
long i;
float x2, y;
const float threehalfs = 1.5F;

x2 = number * 0.5F;
y  = number;
i  = * ( long * ) &y;                       // evil floating point bit level hacking
i  = 0x5f3759df - ( i >> 1 );               // what the fuck? 
y  = * ( float * ) &i;
y  = y * ( threehalfs - ( x2 * y * y ) );   // 1st iteration

// y = y * ( threehalfs - ( x2 * y * y ) ); // 2nd iteration, this can be removed

return y;

}

fleet canopy
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Hm

abstract kite
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thats the code lmaoo one line they just say "what the fuck?" because they didn't understand why it worked

fleet canopy
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Hah

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I'll just get a 4700X/4800X, and a 3080 pretty much I guess

abstract kite
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@ornate ginkgo I had the FX 8350. It was basically a space heater that learned to think

fleet canopy
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But I also need to factor in other things like everything else but the CPU cooler and GPU probably

ornate ginkgo
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The 8350 is still an awesome CPU.

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I would have take this one.

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but it wasn't released back then

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Specially for OC

abstract kite
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It was good for the money, but the bulldozer comp arch had it's limitations for sure

fleet canopy
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Kind of what I have to buy now

abstract kite
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@fleet canopy that is gonna be a beast of a PC

fleet canopy
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Ignore the two sets of 32GB kit

ornate ginkgo
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Why 2x 2x16gb?

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oh ok

fleet canopy
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Both same sets, one was cheaper before

abstract kite
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yummy dual channel hueh

fleet canopy
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So I wanna see which one goes cheaper

abstract kite
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is RAM still price gouging?

fleet canopy
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Uhh

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Heard the G.Skill trident one used to be cheaper

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Sooo

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We'll see

abstract kite
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oof

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the answer is yes it is good lord

fleet canopy
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Yes

abstract kite
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it used to be a lot cheaper to get RAM argh

fleet canopy
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lol

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I checked 16GB kits

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Still same price

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Unless that 90$ one used to be cheaper

abstract kite
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that's not a bad price tbh definitely down from the peak prices from last year ish

fleet canopy
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kek

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Always something to factor in price increase

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God I hope bitcoin never returns

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Sounds great on paper, seems cool

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But not gonna be the future

abstract kite
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they had limited production because companies started producing more RAM for the phones, so the prices for RAM went through the roof

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or something along those lines

fleet canopy
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Ah

brisk badger
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in 2016-2017 companies like Samsung, Hynix, micron and others have engaged in fix DRAM prices causing the prices to skyrocket. A class action lawsuit was launched against the companies. We are speaking DRAM prices being tripled in that time

sick reef
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Bitcoin did nothing to RAM prices. monakHmm

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Doubled to tripled Graphics Card prices way back though.

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1060 being 200 one week, 400-500 next week.

fleet canopy
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Yeah that's what I meant

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Plus I don't exactly see a benefit to Bitcoin

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Because internet currency is something that can easily be the most unstable thing

brisk badger
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sadly bitcoins and others are primary used for speculation so they whole market remains very volatile even almost 10 years after. But there is also good and practical use cases, for example ripple which banks often use internally to send money to each other in seconds instead of traditional wiring

sick reef
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Bitcoin has the benefit of being an alternative to regular currency, but it's very similar to a stock, rather than a currency, but it also points to the faults of when the regular currency isn't bound to physical value. It becomes very fluid in itself, only less volatile than Bitcoin. The value of money not direct. It is only when it is applied in service or wares that it estimates a value of the trade.
In turn, it is equal to anything that anyone finds has the same value, like soft currency in that sense. It's a trade of value, rather than currency, practically.

finite violet
sick reef
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Read that as sleeper PC, as mine is, until I saw the creeper, and had to do a re-read.

finite violet
fleet canopy
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A sleeper PC, hm

sick reef
fleet canopy
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Well an Xbox chassis has already been done

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I wonder what else

sick reef
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An Xbox is already almost a regular PC. monakHmm

fleet canopy
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True

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But fit it with high end parts

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That are better than the actual specs of Xbox

sick reef
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Ye, of course

fleet canopy
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Or just use the classic Xbox One

sick reef
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I wonder how I'll do my mini-tower.

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When I have time, interest, and money, obviously.

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Need one that is slight more portable than this guy.

finite violet
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I wonder if I can get it hot enough so the creeper catches on fire

eternal cairn
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The Xbox and PS4 both use APUs though, so they're not really close enough to being built like PCs in my opinion.

sick reef
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A PC can use an APU.

eternal cairn
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Yeah, but those suck compared to using a separate CPU and GPU.

sick reef
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I mean, yeah, but that doesn't unmake it a PC.

eternal cairn
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Okay, considering the majority of the general market uses CPUs and GPUs, the Xbox and PS4 are still less like PCs.

sick reef
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This is also speaking of the original Xbox, technically, even though yes, the newer consoles are structured more as PC's than older consoles were.

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I don't get the point.

fleet canopy
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Hm

sick reef
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"It's not close enough when it's not like what I see as a PC"?

fleet canopy
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Hm

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I mean, an Xbox is sort of a computer

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Lol

sick reef
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A lot of things are like a computer.

fleet canopy
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Assuming computers actually do mean something with a CPU, motherboard and works similar

sick reef
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But what I referred to was Personal Computers in this case.

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Not just computers as a generic term.

fleet canopy
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Yeah

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Could be personal, if you use it for literally anything

eternal cairn
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But what use would an APU be though?

fleet canopy
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After all, I believe both the Playstation and Xbox have browsers

sick reef
fleet canopy
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And no one uses my console but me

sick reef
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It's not simply Personal computers as in computers for the person.

fleet canopy
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kek

sick reef
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What do you mean what use would an APU be?

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I genuinly find it hard to understand what point you're trying to make.

fleet canopy
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APU has a great use

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Don't want/need GPU? Use APU

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Consoles uses a GPU chip, yeah?

sick reef
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It depends, I believe most modern consoles use an APU, but in older consoles they have a lot of different dedicated chips for different operations.

fleet canopy
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Hm

jade ermine
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570X gang!

fleet canopy
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Hm

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Wrong person ping?

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Yes

finite violet
sick reef
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No, it's the board.

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I believe?

finite violet
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the case

sick reef
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Ah, I see. It looked like any other case.

jade ermine
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Too many wesleys around...

sick reef
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Now to see if there's an AIO or aircooler called X570

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Too have an X570 with an X570 with an X570

jade ermine
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I have 570X and X570rollsafe

sick reef
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Just stack those 570's and it'll run better. It's scientifically proven.

fleet canopy
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An RX 570, paired with a 5700X CPU, X570 board, with a 570X case

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Hm

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Only three, but eh

sick reef
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Crossfire a 570 and a 5700X for 57000X

fleet canopy
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Hm

jade ermine
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xzibit pc

vapid crypt
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The first pc case to have spinning rims PirateSimon

jade ermine
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build pc in it, slap the wheel on your nissan
Flex on people with spinners and cpu

sick reef
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That's the kind of thing that is likely to die in seconds.

wicked lake
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Just got the game and it lags really bad with my 7th gen i7 processor. I don't game on PC much, can anyone tell me which video settings I should mess with? Gtfo has so many video settings and idk what will help

sick reef
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Turning of Anti Aliasing always helps, as well as lowering the resolution.

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For big performance gains

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Then tweaking the settings themselves will probably also help.

wicked lake
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Thanks, I appreciate the advice. I'll try that out

sick reef
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Some of the most demanding settings are usually shadows.

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and texture quality I believe. unsure here.

abstract kite
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Hi everyone, so one of my friend is interested in getting the game but their computer is... Quite bad.
What is the most potato config you managed to make the game run somewhat smoothly on? My friend has a AMD 3500U 2,1GHZ 4 cores and 8GB ram processor with integrated Amd vega 8, 2GB graphics card (which clearly will be the bottleneck here)

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I can't imagine getting that to run smoothly tbh

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just to be completely honest

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Yeah, that's what I told my friend

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I can't imagine them having more than 20fps on everything turned down and on the lowest possible resolution

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maybe like 480 p

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Maybe, but probably not for long before everything starts overheating

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Still, if anyone managed to '' run'' the game on a potato computer I'd love to read how low it can go

lime tartan
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why im getting pinged here i bet is izuku

fleet canopy
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Yes

red sinew
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sorry if I got anyone normals messages with that

sweet sage
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that's okay cutie you saved us all

red sinew
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uwu

stark plover
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i got banned from the pcmr discord for using terms like shintel and novideo

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😭

ornate ginkgo
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Fun-Fact: My pc has a wifi card... i mean... i take it... i just was confused why though.

abstract kite
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What is novideo ?

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Or shintel

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Am confoozion

jade ermine
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meme names for nvidia and intel

abstract kite
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Oh

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What does mr stand for ? I know pc is personal computer

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Pcmr doesn't make sense

jade ermine
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pcmasterrace

abstract kite
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Dang

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I guess I live under a rock

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Welp

jade ermine
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and for them peasant stands for console player

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"star citizen"OMEGAROLL They should update this one

abstract kite
abstract kite
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@abstract kite following our earlier discussion, some madman managed to run GTFO at 28 fps with an integrated Intel HD graphics 128MB

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Must look like an orgy of pixels

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In slow motion

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Lmfao

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But no idea for his CPU, which I'd believe must be compensating greatly

fleet canopy
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Around 30FPS isn’t too bad

merry bay
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Then Windows 10 comes in knocking every now and then

brisk badger
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can the vega 8 be compared to the novideo gt 1030?

fleet canopy
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Wack

brisk badger
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probably a factor is also the RAM that the vega 8 will be using since it most likely will take System RAM. I dunno if it has dedicated vram, too lazy

abstract kite
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nope

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it uses system ram apparently

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wack

brisk badger
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then probably the ram speed is very important for the gpu performance

sick reef
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The DDR4 1030?

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Oh wait, you meant GT, woa

brisk badger
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*The Vega 8 I meant. Ober said it does not have dedicated vram so it grabs some system ram

abstract kite
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Yeah, we'll try with my friend today, it should "work"

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it has a decent CPU speed

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but I already warned them, it's gonna be a very ugly, low res, powerpoint slideshow

vapid crypt
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I don't think its that bad, I'm pretty sure the Vega APUs on desktop are only slightly behind say the 1050. I heard the new ones on Laptop now are exponentially faster despite having less CUs, the node shrink improved performance a lot surprisingly. So the next line up of APUs on desktop will be a lot faster.

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Oh and if we're referring to performance on GTFO, yeah that's likely gonna be rough. But for perspective before my buddy upgraded back when the Alpha of the game was active, he was running a Skylake i3 and an R9 270X. On low settings he was getting roughly 30fps, likely being held back quite a bit by the dual core. The 270X is roughly similar to the 1050, it also has 2gb of Vram

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APU mileage may vary considering we're talking about two processes in a compact design, that generates more heat than usual. You need to have fairly speedy RAM since it pulls from system RAM, and you need to allocate 2gb in the Bios to get the most out of it.

abstract kite
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The thing is the resolution I imagine won't be 1080 imo

fleet canopy
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Probably not

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But 1080p is very easy to run overall

abstract kite
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Correct, but in a laptop thermal throttling and power limit throttling are more of an issue

fleet canopy
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Not if you live in the arctic

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kek

abstract kite
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for example, I have a 2,500 laptop with a 6 core 12 thread cpu and a 1060m with 16 gb of RAM, and my game still dips below 60 fps occasionally

vapid crypt
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Was referring to the desktop APUs mainly anyway

abstract kite
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Ah

fleet canopy
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1060M, hm

vapid crypt
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Also I mentioned Rims on a case yesterday

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Well the timing is impeccable

abstract kite
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Integrated is definitely far better than it used to be

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almost viable tbh

abstract kite
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Okay so, we tried

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and my friend has 30fps, everything on minimum settings, 480p resolution

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it's definitely mediocre

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but playable

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AMD 3500U 2,1GHZ 4 cores and 8GB ram processor with integrated Amd vega 8, 2GB graphics card (which clearly will be the bottleneck here)

abstract kite
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oml

brisk badger
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maybe you can squeeze out some more FPS by changing the RAM (depending on how fast the current RAM is). It's also probably not worth to spend the money on that

fleet canopy
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Replacing the RAM on a laptop, hm

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Never really heard a single whisper of changing parts on a laptop

abstract kite
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It is not worth it

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at best people replace thermal paste, but past that its kinda pointless

brisk badger
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i mean most laptops will allow to easily change rams and hdd's. I am not saying upgrading the ram will help but it can if the GPU can only use system ram

vapid crypt
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I'm guessing its a cheaper laptop, so I doubt they got the best RAM you know

jade ermine
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Found rather old pic from my pc, Bitfenix cases were new and hot back thenKEKWlaugh

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Green mess

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and good ol' 525 fan controller

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Also brand new 1070FE oh my oh my

ornate ginkgo
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eww who likes green x3

tardy tinsel
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Clearly you do, judging by your profile picture

scarlet pilot
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My current set-up has the cool side facing the wall because the lights are too bright. ;o;

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But I approve of the Green + white setup.

fleet canopy
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Kek

jade ermine
fleet canopy
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Yes

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Ironically it’d probably feel true

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Red and white is pretty much the same thing I guess

merry bay
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Red LED's is the equivalent of getting flame stickers on your car to make it faster

ornate ginkgo
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Clearly you do, judging by your profile picture
@tardy tinsel eww who likes sarcasm?

abstract kite
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Clearly you do, judging by your profile picture
@tardy tinsel 🌋

fleet canopy
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I've got an ezpz fix for them

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Keep using 14nm, but increase the clock speed by 0.2GHz more!

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Oh wait

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At least it still does good in single-core performance

brisk badger
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haha, the heading

Close but no cigar
fleet canopy
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Yeah hah

brisk badger
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is there info on the price?

fleet canopy
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Expected around 560$

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Still more expensive than a 3950X I think

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Nah I'm wrong

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3900X is pretty neat in price if you get it for 475$ which seems the usual price of it nowadays

tardy tinsel
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when you want to show off your computer specs, what are the list of things you want to see?

fleet canopy
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But for about 80-90$ you're paying for 14nm chip that only gets a little more higher on clock

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GPU, CPU, RAM

brisk badger
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I am very excited for end of this year and the new ryzen lineup. I really want to build an "all-in-one" PC for all users I have, so instead of 3 physical pc's it's only one

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I hope AMD does not go for extremely high prices 🙏

fleet canopy
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Yeah

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Knowing AMD, won't be a lot more expensive than Intel haha

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And of course, hopefully a big improvement over 3000 lineup

jade ermine
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3900X price just keeps dropping

fleet canopy
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Yeah

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That's a pretty good thing, might see better price

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for 4000

jade ermine
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Q4 you can probably yoink one for 399 + new stuff will be out

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If only we got new GPU's already aaaaaaa

fleet canopy
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Isn't NVIDIA getting one out in like late 2020/early 2021?

jade ermine
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Late 2020 i think

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feels bad mon

fleet canopy
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Well

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Eh

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That's not too bad of a date I guess

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I think it was also rumored for like

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mid 2020?

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I doubt

jade ermine
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They were supposed to tease them in march at GTC digital and prob summertime release

fleet canopy
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But I do hope it's gonna be like

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A new feature comes in that'll be good

jade ermine
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But now since everything is delayed we can expect late 2020 release

fleet canopy
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DLSS2.0 came in

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So that was nice

vapid crypt
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Been hearing September release for Ryzen

tardy tinsel
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this is the specs for my computer
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-9700 CPU @ 3.00GHz 3.00 GHz
RAM 16 GB
nvidia geforce rtx 2070 super, 8 GB
I paid $2,200 Canadian dollars one year ago. was it worth it?

jade ermine
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It feels like i just got my ryzen 3000 and 4000 is already on its waySweatBloB

fleet canopy
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Oof, non K

north bronze
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While I wait for my 2070S, might as well fix a few kinks in my build

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The stock wraith prism cooler is just way too loud and doesn't cool my 3700X well enough for what I use it for

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and UE4 apparently just eats 16GB of ram like it's nothing so I'm doubling it

fleet canopy
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Dank Rock Pro 4

north bronze
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big chungus

fleet canopy
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Biggie

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Black

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Sexy

north bronze
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ikr

fleet canopy
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I own, epic

north bronze
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i love how good it looks

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silent and efficient

fleet canopy
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My case is black, inside it's mostly dark

north bronze
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same

fleet canopy
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Sometimes I don't even see the cooler lmao

north bronze
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GPU and MOBO are the only RGB elements

brisk badger
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and UE4 apparently just eats 16GB of ram like it's nothing so I'm doubling it

maybe it's memory leaks ? 😛

fleet canopy
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That's what epic about it

north bronze
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naaah it doesn't leak

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I'm just moving a lot of things around in the project to make it a bit more organized

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40GB of assets is spicy

brisk badger
north bronze
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lmao

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well UE4 is managed memory

fleet canopy
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Sort of confused

north bronze
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it has a garbage collector

fleet canopy
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But eh

brisk badger
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i am not programmer and not used ue4 but I guess even with garbage collection leaks can occur. Well not that your project has this, just that I seen especially games that suffer from this even with garbage collection

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that said game had a very nice "hotfix" they made the app 64bit so it wouldn't crash anymore when reaching 2gb but the problem still persists lol

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the game now uses around 3-4gb~ ram, after an hour or two. Thanks to x64 it doesn't crash anymore but no fix regarding leaks

north bronze
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Yeah they can occur but it's harder to get them

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you really have to be doing something dumb

fleet canopy
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Hm

brisk badger
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oh yes, those devs are... not that great. Not gonna name ofc 🙂 it was funny how they fought the memory leaks by converting the application to x64 instead of just fixing the leaks. It took em like 6months to do. Probably it was still faster than to fix the leaks

north bronze
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it depends where the leaks occur

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but yeah that's a big yikes

brisk badger
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it looks nice to have so many threads

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still on my i7 4790k :S

abstract kite
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Leaks can be mega hard to fix

hidden otter
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Hello guys, Do you know if I can play GTFO, even if at least, with these components? Without video plate
Mother Asrock A320M-HDV R4.03 Ryzen M-ATX
Processor AMD Ryzen 5 1600 AF Zen+12nm AM4 Wraith Stealth Cooler
source Aerocool Cylon 500W Full Range RGB 80 Plus Bronze

fleet canopy
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Uhh

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Do you have a graphics card?

hidden otter
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Nope 😦

fleet canopy
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Feels weird saying "graphics card" lmao

hidden otter
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sorry xdd

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the one i have broke a few month ago and i can aford a new one so, i was hoping that i can play without one at least

fleet canopy
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damn

brisk badger
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how did you break your old gpu?

fleet canopy
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Probably bad handling

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You can buy a 2060 for a good price, or look into a GTX 1660

hidden otter
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how did you break your old gpu?
@brisk badger 5 years of use, the poor did not give more

brisk badger
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that's not old

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assuming you did not play games 24/7

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what broke?

fleet canopy
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I don't think it should have even happened even with a lot of gaming

brisk badger
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often gpu's can resurrected from the dead

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mostly because they are not dead

fleet canopy
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Haha

hidden otter
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Dont know really

what broke?
@brisk badger dont know really, in my country we are in quarintine so, i cant send it to repair

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I don't have a good refrigeration either so maybe he burned something

brisk badger
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okay I ask different: How did you come to the conclusion that the GPU is dead / defect / not working

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is it physically damaged? blown capacitor etc

hidden otter
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the computer was constantly turned off and occasionally I did not take the video

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is it physically damaged? blown capacitor etc
@brisk badger Nope

fleet canopy
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Hm

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So uhh

hidden otter
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first i thinked it was the power source

brisk badger
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the chances are that the GPU is perfectly fine is high

fleet canopy
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Maybe it's the PSU

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If you bought a prebuilt

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They looooove to use bad PSUs with it sometimes

hidden otter
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didnt know that

fleet canopy
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Like it'll be the very bare minimum for the PSU to work

brisk badger
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what was the name of your gpu?

fleet canopy
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Wait

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You have 500W

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So that's perfectly

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Fine?

hidden otter
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i send the graphic card to MSI suport (because I still had a guarantee) and give me a "new one" and it dont work too
The Graphic Card is an RX 580 4gb OC

fleet canopy
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Oof

brisk badger
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well the problem is your pc / setup / configuration and not your GPU

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also I dont understand how the GPU is 5 years old, you still have warranty and send it in and receive another one. The rx 580 is not 5 years old AFAIK

hidden otter
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really? because i try that in my fathers PC wich have this specs:
power source: XT600 Bronze
RX 580 8GB OC Nitro+
I5-8400
16gb Ram
and i try to change the graphic for the Rx with 4gb and didnt work too

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also I dont understand how the GPU is 5 years old, you still have warranty and send it in and receive another one. The rx 580 is not 5 years old AFAIK
@brisk badger dont know too

fleet canopy
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Oh?

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So it might be something with GPU

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But just why?

brisk badger
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how do you install the new graphics card?

fleet canopy
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Or that, haha

brisk badger
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i doubt 2 gpu's have the exact problem

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not to mention that msi will test their gpu's they send back

hidden otter
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First wait 30 minutes before removing the video card, then remove it, clean the socket carefully and blow compressed air, then carefully put the new one (until it fits) and then remove the battery and put it back 1 minute later

fleet canopy
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Carefully, hm

hidden otter
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Also try first to put 1 of the 2 ram memories and then put the other to see if it was the problem but nothing happened

brisk badger
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and did you removed the drivers on the pc's when swapping the cards

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it's also recommended to remove the driver evne if the cards are identical

hidden otter
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Yes, i boot all the disk and install the drivers

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And the old video card (the one that was 5 years old) was a bit bent but the new one that they gave me was flawless and nothing, does it do what I told you, maybe it is a problem with the socket of the motherboard?

brisk badger
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with the new card, you get any signal?

hidden otter
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first, it loaded to the windows screen, and then it shut down and never do it again (it start but it dont show any signal)

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i bought an HDMI-VGA adapter but it didn't work either

brisk badger
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does it show the bios (if the bios shown previously)

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did you try to safe boot windows?

hidden otter
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just show it the first time and then it never showed again dont matter how much times i restart the pc

brisk badger
#

I do not think the hardware is damaged at all. It's either a software issue or unstable voltage

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but you say the same thing happens on another machine. So I am not sure but I also don't know the setup of both machines

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that msi sends you back a GPU that has the exact same problem is unlikely but I guess could happen. I assume they do extensive testing of goods they provide as warranty

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and last but not least your story of how old the GPU is, how you still have warranty and the model of the GPU does not add up

sick reef
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Soft reset or hard reset?

hidden otter
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i really dont know that of the warranty too, normaly its 1-3 years but this one was 5 years (when i found it without hope and read that i was surprised and contact the msi suport)

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Soft reset or hard reset?
@sick reef Hard Reset

sick reef
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Hard reset as in CMOS reset, then?

brisk badger
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okay, if you have this long warranty then you are lucky (in my country it was 1 year forever and now finally 2) but still: the rx580 is not 5 years old

hidden otter
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Hard reset as in CMOS reset, then?
@sick reef didnt try with the CMOS

clear quartz
#

so 10/10 razer ornata chrome yay or nay?

sick reef
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CMOS reset a few times, almost always, as a rule of thumb.

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When switching parts, that is.

brisk badger
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that's new for me

sick reef
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That's what I had to do to even get this rig running.

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Has saved me a fair few times from non-issues.

hidden otter
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didnt know that, i will try it then but if it dont work i will wait until the quarantine finish and send it to suport again, thx for the help guys 🙂

brisk badger
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@hidden otter my tip: try to boot into windows safe mode

hidden otter
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Roger, i will try it too

brisk badger
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with the corrupt gpu ofc

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may not help but if it's a windows then this is the go to

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*a windows issue

hidden otter
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ok, thx a lot to all! going to do it right now

brisk badger
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np, and you don't need to wait 30mins to install the card btw. just remove the power plug and wait ~2min

hidden otter
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oh nice, thx for the tip

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🙂

stark plover
#

i got a rasberry pi w/ the google voice aiy kit for free

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what kinda uses can i do with this thing

rich gate
#

Will a 16 GB ram proccessor be enough to run GTFO?

solemn orchid
#

@rich gate 🤔

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what do you mean?

rich gate
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What is the recommended about of ram in order to run GTFO smoothly?

solemn orchid
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ohh

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16gb should absolutely be sufficient

rich gate
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Ok, thank you!

solemn orchid
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no worries

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what cpu + gpu are you running, if you don't mind me asking? @rich gate

rich gate
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For my GPU I am using a ASRock B450M Pro4

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And for my CPU I am using a AMD Ryzen 5 2600X

solemn orchid
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that's a motherboard 😄

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the B450M

rich gate
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Ah.

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Sorry, Im not too good with parts.

solemn orchid
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no worries

rich gate
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I'm not sure with the GPU then.

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Im currently trying to get it built with the help of a friend.

solemn orchid
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ah

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got a parts list you can send my way?

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I can give you some suggestions ^^

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I build and work on PCs for a living

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well, "for a living"

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I'm still a student, but it's nice for money on the side

rich gate
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My friend has already ordered the parts, but thank you! And I'll send a screenshot for the parts list.

solemn orchid
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ah, got it

rich gate
solemn orchid
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hm

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alright

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you'll be able to run the game alright, but that gpu is gonna be a little bit of a bottleneck

rich gate
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Ok. If I'm at least able to run the game, then thats perfect.

solemn orchid
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mhm

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you'll be able to run some things, on lower settings granted

rich gate
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Ok. Thank you for your help!

solemn orchid
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no worries, feel free to ping me if you need any more help! ^^

summer trout
#

Tech Priest do you buy used things from people and flip 'em? :>

upper palm
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I dont know if this is the right place, however I am finding difficulty where my pc turns off when I go to D1, and only D1.

fleet canopy
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What are your PC specs?

upper palm
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i7-9700 @3ghz
rtx 2060
ram 16gb

fleet canopy
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That's strange, hm

upper palm
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yes :c

fleet canopy
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Is it a laptop? Or a regular PC

upper palm
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regular desktop

fleet canopy
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Ah, ok

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And it came already built?

upper palm
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yes

fleet canopy
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Then can you see the power supply in it? If so, can you tell me how much wattage it is?

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Said to be 65W TDP, but instead goes 224W at stock

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Damn wack

jade ermine
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Toasty

fleet canopy
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I sure could use it

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For I'm quite freezing atm

jade ermine
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They literally just took some 9th gen CPU's, Added 2 cores to flagship and made them bit more aggressive

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hahah

fleet canopy
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Yeah lmao

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That's just it

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Nothing special, still crappy 14nm

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They don't want it smaller LULW

jade ermine
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Must be really hard job being intel fan right now

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best thing is that rocket lake that comes after these will be 14nm too

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2021

fleet canopy
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They probably will do okay with their Gee Pee Youuu

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Fucking wow

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What is wrong with Intel

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They're being pure Shintel at this point

jade ermine
#

We can expect some competition 2022 vs AMD's 5nm+

fleet canopy
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Competition

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Hah

jade ermine
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I mean they should really not sleep any longer than that

fleet canopy
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If they ever do 10-12nm

upper palm
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Sorry, about my late reply, it says 225W - with 460W power supply is what it says.

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I'm not a tech guy, so I have no clue D:

fleet canopy
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On the PSU part in the PC

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Or is there some way to check it on software

jade ermine
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If they steer away from monolithic dies in the future they might lose their praised gaming perf. and once they go under 14nm -> clockspeeds will go down.

fleet canopy
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Sometimes some things need to be sacrificed

jade ermine
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So they better have something real special cooked up in the labs

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Because they are even loosing on mobile now lol

fleet canopy
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Hahaha

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I don't know if I should feel bad for them lmao

jade ermine
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10nm desktop is only 5 years late at this point

fleet canopy
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True

jade ermine
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They are probably just skipping it

fleet canopy
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?

upper palm
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Is anyone else experiencing similar issues with D1 turning their pcs off? o:

fleet canopy
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Might be you, cause 460W ain't lookin good

jade ermine
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Is D1 so scary that it just turns your PC off

upper palm
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would I need a higher supply?

fleet canopy
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More likely yeah

jade ermine
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Doubt its some sort of known issue within the game

fleet canopy
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Probably?

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Seems like it's not too bad for a 460W PSU with those parts

upper palm
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:/?

fleet canopy
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So I'm not entirely sure what it is

upper palm
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and it only shuts off at D1, lol

fleet canopy
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Hm

jade ermine
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^

upper palm
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ok, thanks for your help.

abstract kite
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Wtf? XD

vapid crypt
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What? You thought Server Chips were cheap? phaWesker

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Nevermind Intel's 28 core Xeons being 5k

brisk badger
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it's interesting: In the long-term, x86-64 CPU's will fade away from the server section. More and more ARM's chips are used, or ASICs. I wonder when the time will be

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and yea the prices are "normal" for the server chips. I think back some time they were even CPU's sold for more than 10k

vapid crypt
#

I think AMD might be going for RISC-V down the line

fleet canopy
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Well hey, it's got free shipping! That's a nice bonus!

brisk badger
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it would be nice if RISC establishes but I have my doubt

brisk badger
#

Got a question:
Would like to do some overclocking tomorrow on the CPU and I am going to disable one core (I don't need 4 active cores, 3 are fine for what that box is doing). My question now is: Is there a way to tell the BIOS exactly which core should be disabled? I would like to find out which of the 4 cores is the weakest and disable that. But in the Bios I can only do: Disable one core, disable two cores etc. I also don't understand if the BIOS will select one core at random to be disabled at boot.

sick reef
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You could do uneven overclocking, and see which cores fails most easily. Unsure if you can choose which core to be disabled or if it takes the highest number one.

brisk badger
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what is uneven overclocking? maybe my cpu doesn't support it; it's an 7700k

sick reef
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I have the option for mine to have 6 or 8 different clocks on my cores.

brisk badger
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so every core runs a different speed?

sick reef
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They could.

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Or in groups which are divisable by 6 or 8 depending

brisk badger
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oh that's interesting but i don't have this feature. What I could do is to tell, when 4 cores in usage use this frequency, when only 3 are used use that frequency etc.

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but I have no overview then of what cores are used or at least I don't find any documentation about

sick reef
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Wouldn't prime95 assign the same worker to the same core per every test?

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High voltage, then try and push high frequences specifically to see which one gives out first when you've reached the performance roof.

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Don't quote me on that I guess. I'm unsure too.

brisk badger
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oh it's already overclocked to the max and working. I just don't need 4 cores but 3 and I thought I could squeeze more MHz out if I can find the weakest core

sick reef
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Yeah, exactly.

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Hence, the test. You try and push it further and further, and see which one gives out first, and most frequently.

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Above your current OC.

brisk badger
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i don't know to debug what core exactly stopped working

sick reef
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That is under the assumption that Prime95 assign the same worker to the same core.

brisk badger
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and if only prime95 crashes and no BSOD

sick reef
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A worker can die without your computer killing itself.

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Or well, fail.

brisk badger
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yes but usually if oc is too high the whole machine says good bye :p

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havn't used prime95 for years tbh so I vaguely remember

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it's just stupid whoever designed the bios. to allow to disable cores but not allow to disable specific cores. Because I am certain that it doesn't deactivate the same core to prolong the cpu's lifespan

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okay it's also weird to disable cores, but that machine is doing only one thing. running a single threaded application

sick reef
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But all this depends on that you actually get to choose as well, and I don't think you do.

brisk badger
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I try tomorrow to play a bit with it

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another question:
AMD rx 580 (4gb) or the AMD Fury X GPU for a PC

I have both cards here but dunno which to use. Focus would be energy efficiency (where the rx580 wins) and as high as possible FPS

sick reef
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Probably 580.

brisk badger
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I kinda can't say to the AMD fury X. It kinda broke my heart. What unloved GPU by papa AMD

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*can't say goodbye

sick reef
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You can use it as a bookstand.

brisk badger
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no because it has a AIO XD

sick reef
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That's what I did with my dead Titan Black.

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Ah, fug

brisk badger
#

well I can disassemble it probably

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why is your titan black dead?

sick reef
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Or you put it in the forever pile and use it as a spare.

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I believe the graphics chip died. It started wiping windows from the computer it was on.

brisk badger
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there is already 6x amd 7970 waiting to do something xD

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if you havn't tried already. Try a vBIOS flash. It very often helps. Of course not if the hardware is damaged

sick reef
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I'm unsure if I could do that if I can't boot safely with it connected to something.

brisk badger
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no need to boot into windows

sick reef
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Do think it just died of natural causes, really.

brisk badger
#

well you could flash from within windows

sick reef
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At all, though.

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It locked up in bios as well.

brisk badger
#

Unless some capacitor etc. broke, I doubt, especially with High End GPUs

sick reef
#

I don't have hardware to run it enough to flash the bios on it, at least yet.

brisk badger
#

maybe a local repair shop could take a look. Well if it's worth the money

sick reef
#

And it's very likely hardware damage, or so I would presume.

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And if that in turn is the graphical chip, it's dead regardless.

brisk badger
#

you can also send the GPU to a random guy on the iwebs (me) and I can take a look :P. I used to repair hardware for some reason till I got upset.

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if you are interested in ressurcting, take a good camera, make photos of it and we will see :p

sick reef
#

I could, but then I'd have to remove the shroud, and cooling plate.. I could do that I guess, at least to take picture.

brisk badger
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true. or sell it. THere is people (like me) who buy defect hardware

sick reef
#

It's a great thematical bookstop.

brisk badger
#

my iphone 6 that I use is made only out of spare parts I found on ebay lol

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haha

sick reef
#

Since it's a FE titan, it looks beefy as all hell.

#

Never had a graphics card wipe drives before, but still boot, and be accessible for a minute or two.

#

It ain't a bad card, so I'll look into it and see. Very likely it has ran its course, though.

brisk badger
#

very unlikely that a GPU chip dies. maybe hardware on the PCB can stop working but that can be replaced "easily" with soldering and googling the right replacement parts (which can get difficult without any schematics)

#

does your GPU have a dual Bios mode?

#

could try flipping the switch on it and see what it does

sick reef
#

You tell me. FE Titan Black. Not a card I actually know much about

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Don't think FE has bios switches.

brisk badger
#

I googled a bit but it doesn't look like there is a second vbios sadly

sick reef
#

I'd have to try and flash it and hope it doesn't lock up.

brisk badger
#

maybe could try without drivers and just let windows pick the default one

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or if you have a spare hdd and time. install a windows copy on that only for the flashing but probably not worth it

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or install the flash tool on a memory stick and boot it from the stick

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if the gpu dies during the flashing process then it's bricked ofc

prisma citrus
#

HI, I was wondering if anybody would be able to help me with some frame rate issues?

The computer I play GTFO on is not running on minimum requirements. Rather, most of the recommended requirements are met (with the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 940 rather than a NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970), and I have an ethernet cord plug into my computer

Despite this, I have framerates of 15 fps (18 at most), which makes it extremely difficult to get accurate shots and have smooth running gameplay. I've lowered a couple of graphics settings in game, but I haven't seen any real improvement.
Are there any specific "fixes" or adjusted I can make to help the game have better frames?

fleet canopy
#

Minimum basically means it's somewhat playable pretty much

#

Not guaranteed 60FPS or anything

prisma citrus
#

So, despite my computer running at or above recommended requirements, I most likely can't even get it above 20 fps?

vapid crypt
#

I'm not even sure if a 940 is on par with min spec

#

I mean it might be, but the low end cards aren't usually the greatest

fleet canopy
#

You probably could, expected to have more optimization at some point anyway

brisk badger
#

tell us your cpu

#

is the 940 a mobile only gpu?

vapid crypt
#

Couldn't say, could be an OEM only card

brisk badger
#

it's a mobile only pretty sue

prisma citrus
#

OS: Windows 10 64-Bit
Processor: Intel Core i7 7500 U
Memory: 16 GB RAM
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 940
DirectX: Version 11
Network: Broadband Internet connection
Storage: 16 GB available space

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I have a laptop

fleet canopy
#

Yes

vapid crypt
#

That's a dual core i7

brisk badger
#

an nvidia 660 is min required

#

which beats an nvidia 940 probably by quite some FPS

prisma citrus
#

Seriously?

fleet canopy
#

Plus it's a laptop, aren't those usually less powerful than the desktop GPUs?

vapid crypt
#

Less power, and thermally limited

brisk badger
vapid crypt
#

Dual core as well

fleet canopy
#

Userbenchmark, kek

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36.6FPS for a 940M

brisk badger
#

no idea how they measure average fps

fleet canopy
#

Userbenchmark is apparently shit I guess?

prisma citrus
#

So, even if I try to adjust in game graphics, I'm just going to have bad frames no matter what?

fleet canopy
#

They're giving false info

vapid crypt
#

I wouldn't say its false info, but its kind of pointless info

brisk badger
#

idk, it's the only page I found by a quick research that shows somewhat an comparison

vapid crypt
#

It doesn't tell you actual performance, just how it benchmarks on their program

fleet canopy
#

True

#

But I keep hearing it's lying about Intel vs AMD CPUs

vapid crypt
#

Well sort of, they changed how the percentage is calculated

#

So they weigh 4 core and lower performance higher than higher core

prisma citrus
#

So, my computer has worse graphics than minimum?

#

I don't understand a lot of the tech talk... I'm just trying to find a way to make it slightly easier to play...

prisma citrus
#

So, are there any suggestions on graphics? I would like to see if I figure out a way to make frames a little better before I have to go out and get a new computer to play with friends

vapid crypt
#

Yeah I don't think you meet min specs

abstract kite
#

Quick question. 73c under full load is okay?

#

As long as it doesn't reach 80c+ right?

narrow moon
#

Most CPU and GPU limits are between 85-95c limits. At 73 you're fine, but consider increasing your cooling efficiency.

sick reef
#

73 under full load is high, but if that's the thermal max, then it should be fine. Be careful not to have bad circulation in your room.

vapid crypt
#

I get temps like that running Folding@Home, so yeah fairly typical in heavy cpu loads

full copper
#

Hey! My first time here in this channel
I am actually in a pretty weird situation so I needed you guys advice on what to do
"I was working on my pc when suddenly electricity went out and my pc turned off
Without saving anything as I expected
But when I try to turn it on now
It's just showing me a bsod with a error called : 'Critical process Died' and I test everything including ram, psu check as well as doing an automatic repair but apparently nothing seems to work.
Even when I try reset this pc it just states that an error occurred.
If you guys have any previous experience with this sort of case plz give advice on how I can I fix it
Thanks in advance"

brisk badger
#

Can you try booting into windows safe mode?

#

it should automatically try entering safe mode after 3 failed normal boots

#

else you can shut the power when you see the windows logo

#

if you manage to load into safe mode, open the terminal (Win + R key -> type cmd) and type sfc /scannow. will take a while

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Press Troubleshoot -> "see more recovery options" -> "startup settings" -> "enable safe mode with networking"

ornate ginkgo
#

@full copper Is this the only message you get?

full copper
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Yes

ornate ginkgo
#

Did wooza's thing work?

full copper
#

When I try to enter safe mode it's just give me the same error again

ornate ginkgo
#

Ok, at this point i would intall Windows again

full copper
#

I think I should do that
I didn't want to lose my newer projects but looks like that's the only choice I have rn

ornate ginkgo
#

Maybe install it on another Harddrive?

full copper
#

Hm.. I didn't think about that

#

Thanks for the advice lavars
I'll do that

ornate ginkgo
#

If you need help, just ask again :3

full copper
#

Okay

brisk badger
#

reinstalling windows should not delete your files

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i also recommend to reinstall windows if it even crashes in safe mode

#

you could do the sfc /command before the safe boot though to try but not sure if it can help

ornate ginkgo
#

@brisk badger he should do a clean installation anyways. If anything is colliding with windows at this point, it's faster if any other problem occurs.

brisk badger
#

yea i also recommend to reinstall but also mentioning that windows ships tools in a pre boot environment

full copper
#

I started the download on my other laptop, it'll work hopefully

ornate ginkgo
#

Let's keep our hope up

jade ermine
#

Did thermal testing with P95 small fft and heaven. Good way to heat up your room!

dusky pumice
#

hello anyone there?

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i need some help

full copper
#

Yes?

ornate ginkgo
#

@dusky pumice What do you need help with?

lilac geyser
#

i don't understand people who say "can i ask a question?" first of all, you just did, second of all, if you had just asked the next response would have been the (possible) answer instead of someone needing to ask what the problem is.

ornate ginkgo
#

It is just kind.

lilac geyser
#

yes in actual conversation, not on a text chat

ornate ginkgo
#

I don't mind it ^^

fleet canopy
#

What about a text conversation?

lilac geyser
#

i dunno, what about it?

#

lavars: its not about minding it, but if you want to get help you need to ask an actual question. add all the extra steps you like, but i only have so much time to answer question and read chat

ornate ginkgo
#

It is. I don't mind the little steps. I mean. you are not the only person ^^ there are a lot who can answers the question of someone.

steady solar
#

This dude is autistic don't understand social interaction

lilac geyser
#

whats with the ad hominem? that's not very friendly, if we're going to analyze social interaction

fleet canopy
#

Some guy selling a loota 1080 Tis for about 430$

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Each

full copper
#

That's cheap....?

ornate ginkgo
#

Sounds sketchy... probably older that got used for mining. Which means they can be faulty

finite violet
#

You can straight up ask a question while including a greeting.
You're still polite and keeping your dumb morals intact while not wasting time for no reason.

#

When talking about a question in a public channel, if you actually asked the question it's also more likely that someone who's just switching between channels will respond.

#

While they wouldn't have responded to your meaningless message

#

good websites

#

It's not a communication issue on our side, it's an issue on your side for not realising that communications face to face or online are different.

vocal canopy
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@lilac geyser @ornate ginkgo unrelated to the topic of PC builds, but regarding the asking permission to ask a question, some servers have dedicated question asking channels but are locked behind tags you cant get automatically, and that way you dont get kicked or banned instantly for asking a question in the general chat

sick reef
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It's not a problem. If they want to ask first, they can.

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If they don't return, that's their problem.

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If they get agitated they don't get a response, which in this case they did get a response, that's their problem.

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But they don't have to ask the question instantly

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And it shouldn't be demanded/required of them.

finite violet
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There's a lot of things you don't "have" to do.
But when provided with tons of pro's to doing x opposed to y, please pick x.

sick reef
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Yeah, no. Arbitrary rules on random people are in most cases not my jam. Don't want to have structure outsiders won't inherenty know almost only as a basis to demean or correct.

finite violet
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I'm not trying to make a rule, I'm not going to send you to hell for not following the above. I'm not expecting people to follow the above by default either.
I'm trying to teach anyone reading the message above, that there's a more efficient way of asking your question. Beneficial to you and the person helping you.

sick reef
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If they didn't return to even see if anyone has answered, do you think they'd return to read about a social norm they probably had not even considered they had broken?

finite violet
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anyone reading the message

sick reef
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So not the person that actually didn't follow the norm then?
Instead the people that do?

finite violet
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I was providing more information towards lavars that saw it as a "polite" thing, I'd like to think my message provided information useful to him.

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And was also commenting on what cheese said, referencing that we're autistic and don't know how to communicate

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I don't know why you're unable to see all of this...

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I'm very certain at least one person can gain some knowledge out of it

sick reef
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I see it as quite useless as the only reason there is a need to continue it is because other people annoy themselves over it, and if they do, that's their problem, not yours.
Not saying it is a completely bad thing, the norm itself, but correcting your own behaviour because specifc people dislike it is a futile cause of trying to the square into the triangle hole.

finite violet
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The point isn't correcting your behaviour because others dislike it. As mentioned, it's beneficial (more efficient, not a like/dislike thing) to both parties.

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I'll stop discussing this as it's pretty borderline off-topic

brisk badger
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people who begin their sentence with "i have a question" followed by nothing are idiots. simple

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you call a tech support and start a conversation like this?

ornate ginkgo
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I have a question.

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May i ask this question? :P

brisk badger
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actually if it's on the phone I woudn't care as the customer is charged 😛

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the probability to solve issues of people who ask if they can ask a question is very low so I am not sure :S

ornate ginkgo
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Well. I Really would keep this conversation going.

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But not the right channel ^^

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But still let's keep in mind that we are nice to everyone ^^

brisk badger
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I will try to think about something funny for the next guy with the question

ornate ginkgo
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I wanted to test COD with my new PC... but i have to reinstall it <.<

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Fork me

brisk badger
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reinstall the pc? why?

ornate ginkgo
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No. I need to reinstall it. As i had a problem that could not be fixed 🤷‍♂️ Activision

merry bay
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It's only 87GB, no big deal PepeLaugh

ornate ginkgo
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cough 1,5Mb/s

brisk badger
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holy shit

ornate ginkgo
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;_;

brisk badger
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and 87gb is the download size not installation size?

merry bay
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installation size, but download size is very very similar

ornate ginkgo
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I have no idea.

merry bay
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Also had a few patches sized 3-13GB

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Didn't add to the size, just the hassle of downloading a lot

ornate ginkgo
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I mean... it is a huge game with a lot of content... but oh no!

merry bay
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they did make some strides with graphics and audio for the new Modern Warfare

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like airstrikes or being inside a plane being ridiculously loud for immersion without an option to tone specifics down.
Depending on who you ask it's a good or bad feature

ornate ginkgo
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I mean i know the game will run... but i never had a pc that could run games that well xD

fleet canopy
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Is it telling you that you cannot play it?

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And have you played it before Lavars?

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More likely it’s the most recent update that fixed not playing MW because I had same problem too, I updated drivers and it was fully fixed

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Apparently something something drivers were sort of fucked that MW wouldn’t have been able to run without an update

lilac geyser
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I'd like to respond, is it ok if i respond?

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@vocal canopy

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🙂

dusky pumice
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sorry i forgot to ask XD

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i wanted to know something about windows 10

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i have a notebook with AMD Radeon A8 Apu 6410 HD

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2 Ghz

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and 8 of Ram

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i currently run windows 8.1

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the question is if Windows 10 right now is better in performance than 8.1

solemn orchid
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hm

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probably

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windows 10 is currently more supported

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and I've never had any performance related issues

dusky pumice
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also there isnt support for drivers anymore in windows 8.1

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for my graphics

solemn orchid
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ah, true

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iirc AMD dropped it a little while ago

dusky pumice
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my drivers are outdated from 4 years ago

solemn orchid
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well you can certainly update further than that

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maybe not to the most recent version

dusky pumice
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mmm ok

solemn orchid
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but somewhere sooner than 4 years

solemn orchid
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oh shit

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wow

dusky pumice
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i saw that the latest drivers in windows 10 are from this year 😮

solemn orchid
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yeah, make the upgrade to win10 lol

dusky pumice
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:DDD

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ty

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XDDD

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i currently run games like resident evil 2 remake, although kinda slow

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in lowest settings but maybe was cause of the outdated drivers

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maybe i can play much better right now with all that 😄

abstract kite
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I am kind of curious

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How much would a full server cost you?

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Say, idk a small business or personal server for ones home?

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2-3 people would be using it 24/7 like a regular PC for Gaming, Rendering, Streaming, Video Watching Ect...

brisk badger
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i don't what you plan doing on a server

abstract kite
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What?

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🤔

brisk badger
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what the server is used for. you can make a server for 20 dollar

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you can make a server for 20'000 dollar

fleet canopy
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Maybe like an estimated price of buying a whole server, you mean?

abstract kite
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Yes

brisk badger
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well people usually buy server after they found out what they are going to do with it

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if you buy a server for 2000 dollar then put one website on it where you get 10 people visiting the page every month, it's wasted money

vapid crypt
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Don't need to spend a ton if you just want to put together a minecraft server for you and your buddies phaWesker

brisk badger
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so, there is no answer to such a question

abstract kite
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Theoretically I found I want and it is a huge success, money disregarded.

vapid crypt
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Just as an example PirateSimon

abstract kite
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This is just an example

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I am not gonna just up and buy one right now xD

brisk badger
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you can turn your pc into a server if you want

abstract kite
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That I can

fleet canopy
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Hm, is it possible to run a server on a Raspberry Pi?

brisk badger
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of course

abstract kite
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XD

brisk badger
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you laugh. most people who own servers do not need more than a PI as server

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I use a pi myself for as server for some stuff. perfectly fine if you know what it can handle and what you want to serve

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if you plan on hosting a minecraft server on a pi then yea that will not be fun

abstract kite
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That is actually looks nice though.

brisk badger
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but for stuff like filesharing, web server, dns server etc. it's more than enough

abstract kite
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But is there anything beefier?

fleet canopy
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Linus Media Group

abstract kite
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Like say what you are talking about say I wanted to host a Minecraft server.

brisk badger
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sure. any PC can be a server. there is no physical limit of what's a server and what's a client

vapid crypt
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Yeah any decent pc

abstract kite
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If I wanted to do that I would imagine I would need to reconfigure my PC as in my Ryzen 7 3700x Processor?

brisk badger
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no, you just open the minecraft server exe, do some port forwarding and voila

abstract kite
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That simple?

fleet canopy
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Of course

late sorrel
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yeah

fleet canopy
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How else do kids got minecraft servers?

brisk badger
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in short yes

abstract kite
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Fuck if I know xD

brisk badger
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it's not a "real server" because you most likely will turn off your pc at one point

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but it function as a server

lilac geyser
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you can get a VPS for really cheap, $5 or even less if you hunt

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its essentially a virtulized instance of an operating system running on a normal "server"

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so you are renting part of a server

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server owner could have dozens of VPSs running on one server

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its the way to go if you just want to start messing with a webserver, running your own VPN, or other simple service

stark plover
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i got a raspberry pi 4 model b for free

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what can i do with this machine

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(also came with a google voice aiy kit which adds a speaker, mic, and button)

rocky plinth
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Gib pi

eternal cairn
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You can set up a pihole to block ads across all different platforms, including devices that don't have any apps for blocking ads.

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I use it on my LG smart TV and I get no Hulu ads anymore.

rocky plinth
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noice

normal plinth
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so if i have a laptop with intel core i5-6200U(2.3GHz) with turbo boost up to 2.8GHz, and it has a GeForce 940MX with 2GB dedicated VRAM. how should i adjust my current settings to get better performance in game? i want to try to improve my frame rate so i don't have that frame stuttering that sometimes happens(it makes it really hard to aim and hit the sleepers heads during firefights), but i also don't want to sacrifice graphical quality too the point that it looks like I'm fighting undefined blobs with a undefined blob gun in a environment populated with undefined blob props XD.
here are some pics of my current game video settings:

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if anyone knows what i need to do to make my performance better i will greatly appreciate any help you can provide so thanks in advance!

abstract kite
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Well a Laptop with that CPU, alongside the GPU is okay. I don't think you can really push it much more without spending money. You "Could" try to Cull for your GPU or CPU to pull more performance, but I doubt it will help much in this case.

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@normal plinth The game is a bit of a CPU Hog, dunno why, but it is like that.

dense wasp
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hoppppeeefullly I'll be getting all the parts for my build this week

scarlet pilot
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Best be posting glorious pictures here.

dense wasp
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yeees

viscid pawn
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Anyone have thoughts on this build?

eternal cairn
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Ooh, that’s the same AIO I have.

spiral elbow
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Anyone know if this game supports Mac systems?

eternal cairn
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I think it says in the Steam store if it does.

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I can’t check right now, but I highly doubt GTFO is available on Mac.

spiral elbow
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I see.. I did see the system requirements on there say WIndows 7 or Windows 10, but that's too bad then :( trying to get a copy for a friend haha

eternal cairn
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Has your friend considered cloud gaming, @spiral elbow?

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I know this game is available on GeForce Now.

spiral elbow
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Oh never heard of that, will look into it. Thanks!

eternal cairn
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No problem! I’ve even played with several people who were using it and they had nothing but positive things to say about it.

spiral elbow
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Gotcha. Thanks for the help :)

normal plinth
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what does the cpu culling setting actually do? I havent messed with it cause i terrified it might fry my computer if im not carefull.

olive hinge
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this a old thread i found

brisk badger
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at this point it needs a clarification by the dev team since many are just outputting something like: "It’s telling the cpu to do more than the gpu"

normal plinth
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so considering the information provided alittle bit further up would i want to adjust my setting?

brisk badger
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@normal plinth (hey btw old friend, totally failed to recognize you 😛 )
if you your CPU is more powerful than your GPU set it either to large or extreme, if your GPU is beefier, then set it to low/medium

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I do not confirm this, just saying what everyone else says

fleet canopy
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@viscid pawn that’s a pretty good selection, I wonder how much it would cost you if you were to change to the ryzen 3600 with 2x8GB DDR4-3600MHz RAM though

rancid marten
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what ssd should get

fleet canopy
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Depends

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Will you just use the SSD for boot or general storage? Does your motherboard have M.2 slots?

rancid marten
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yes

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general storage

fleet canopy
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HDD: Hard Drive

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How much storage do you need/want?

rancid marten
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ok my laptop has an empty sdd slot. 500gb

solemn orchid
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you should consider getting an m.2 to boot off of

fleet canopy
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He wanted general storage

solemn orchid
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I know, just sayin

fleet canopy
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Plus, he can switch the OS to SSD

solemn orchid
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best case scenario, he's not running apps off of boot ssd

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which is why I recommended a dedicated m.2

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but in most cases, yeah he doesn't really need a separate boot specific SSD

fleet canopy
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Indeed

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Only have a 1TB SSD, everything boots fast

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Don't see a need to make it boot any faster

rancid marten
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i do need more ram

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how do i look at specks of this laptop on windows 10

solemn orchid
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16gb is perfectly sufficient

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go to the about my pc section

brisk badger
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Windows key + R key
Type msinfo32

rancid marten
fleet canopy
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msinfo32

solemn orchid
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yeah that one roy

rancid marten
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I have 16 ram but only one channel

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This laptop runs gtfo Great

brisk badger
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nice notebook. I don't think you need more than 16gb if it's for gaming. at least doubling the ram will not get you more fps

fleet canopy
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Yeah, it is unnecessary to get more

ornate ginkgo
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Ram only does so much for gaming ^^

sick reef
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Well, gaming only takes so much ram*

kind bobcat
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@fleet canopy

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That’s my parts

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Is it a good one

fleet canopy
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Denied to see

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Lol

kind bobcat
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Oh wait

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Got it

fleet canopy
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Ooh, that's pretty good