#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk
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32 is worth it lowkey if ya have the extra monies
Whaaat? 3GB is plenty
you don't have to worry about it wihich is big nice, is this the next gen ryzen?
I'm trying to get hands on a 32GB DDR4-3200MHz CAS14 or 3600MHz CAS15
Not much of 3600MHz CAS15 sadly, so 3200MHz CAS14
But then overclock it to 4000MHz
fu* it DDR29
I'll more likely just pick up the 4700X/4800X, but who says it was illegal for me to get 3900X
kek
700$ though >.>
But hey, not bad of a CPU
3900X seems much better imo though
There's not much difference between the 3900X 3950X I guess?
There is
12C and 16C?
yep
Not a lot of difference then
That is a lot
not gonna help for gaems
yessir
Unless I were to do multi threaded applications
Lavars uwu
Imma dm you something since here it would be considered spam
kk
:3
I just 3900X and 2080Ti/3080Ti for the sexy 60FPS minesweeper
Yeah
I'll hopefully be getting my parts next week
I love ray tracing
1440p 144hz uwu
I want 2080 Ti for the ray tracing on 1440p pretty much lol
And 144hz on most games
Then buy a 4K TV
Lol
Someday
It's really cool! have you seen the quick root code in quakes code lel
the comments are funi
Fucking 7700K
i will burry my old 780ti.
Why'd this one have to be 4 cores :(
with the amd FX8320
am allowed to post a picture?
Other stuff I guess
of it?
If PC related, yes
it is tech
Yes
float Q_rsqrt( float number )
{
long i;
float x2, y;
const float threehalfs = 1.5F;
x2 = number * 0.5F;
y = number;
i = * ( long * ) &y; // evil floating point bit level hacking
i = 0x5f3759df - ( i >> 1 ); // what the fuck?
y = * ( float * ) &i;
y = y * ( threehalfs - ( x2 * y * y ) ); // 1st iteration
// y = y * ( threehalfs - ( x2 * y * y ) ); // 2nd iteration, this can be removed
return y;
}
Hm
thats the code lmaoo one line they just say "what the fuck?" because they didn't understand why it worked
@ornate ginkgo I had the FX 8350. It was basically a space heater that learned to think
But I also need to factor in other things like everything else but the CPU cooler and GPU probably
The 8350 is still an awesome CPU.
I would have take this one.
but it wasn't released back then
Specially for OC
It was good for the money, but the bulldozer comp arch had it's limitations for sure
@fleet canopy that is gonna be a beast of a PC
Ignore the two sets of 32GB kit
Both same sets, one was cheaper before
yummy dual channel hueh
So I wanna see which one goes cheaper
is RAM still price gouging?
Yes
it used to be a lot cheaper to get RAM argh
lol
I checked 16GB kits
Still same price
Unless that 90$ one used to be cheaper
that's not a bad price tbh definitely down from the peak prices from last year ish
kek
Always something to factor in price increase
God I hope bitcoin never returns
Sounds great on paper, seems cool
But not gonna be the future
they had limited production because companies started producing more RAM for the phones, so the prices for RAM went through the roof
or something along those lines
Ah
in 2016-2017 companies like Samsung, Hynix, micron and others have engaged in fix DRAM prices causing the prices to skyrocket. A class action lawsuit was launched against the companies. We are speaking DRAM prices being tripled in that time
Bitcoin did nothing to RAM prices. 
Doubled to tripled Graphics Card prices way back though.
1060 being 200 one week, 400-500 next week.
Yeah that's what I meant
Plus I don't exactly see a benefit to Bitcoin
Because internet currency is something that can easily be the most unstable thing
sadly bitcoins and others are primary used for speculation so they whole market remains very volatile even almost 10 years after. But there is also good and practical use cases, for example ripple which banks often use internally to send money to each other in seconds instead of traditional wiring
Bitcoin has the benefit of being an alternative to regular currency, but it's very similar to a stock, rather than a currency, but it also points to the faults of when the regular currency isn't bound to physical value. It becomes very fluid in itself, only less volatile than Bitcoin. The value of money not direct. It is only when it is applied in service or wares that it estimates a value of the trade.
In turn, it is equal to anything that anyone finds has the same value, like soft currency in that sense. It's a trade of value, rather than currency, practically.
creeper pc
Read that as sleeper PC, as mine is, until I saw the creeper, and had to do a re-read.

A sleeper PC, hm
Here's mine! And I am aware it's the wrong LED, but that LED is the only 2 coloured LED.
An Xbox is already almost a regular PC. 
True
But fit it with high end parts
That are better than the actual specs of Xbox
Ye, of course
Or just use the classic Xbox One
I wonder how I'll do my mini-tower.
When I have time, interest, and money, obviously.
Need one that is slight more portable than this guy.
I wonder if I can get it hot enough so the creeper catches on fire
The Xbox and PS4 both use APUs though, so they're not really close enough to being built like PCs in my opinion.
Yeah, but those suck compared to using a separate CPU and GPU.
I mean, yeah, but that doesn't unmake it a PC.
Okay, considering the majority of the general market uses CPUs and GPUs, the Xbox and PS4 are still less like PCs.
This is also speaking of the original Xbox, technically, even though yes, the newer consoles are structured more as PC's than older consoles were.
I don't get the point.
Hm
"It's not close enough when it's not like what I see as a PC"?
A lot of things are like a computer.
Assuming computers actually do mean something with a CPU, motherboard and works similar
But what I referred to was Personal Computers in this case.
Not just computers as a generic term.
But what use would an APU be though?
After all, I believe both the Playstation and Xbox have browsers
And no one uses my console but me
It's not simply Personal computers as in computers for the person.
kek
What do you mean what use would an APU be?
I genuinly find it hard to understand what point you're trying to make.
It depends, I believe most modern consoles use an APU, but in older consoles they have a lot of different dedicated chips for different operations.
Hm
570X gang!

the case
Ah, I see. It looked like any other case.
Too many wesleys around...
Now to see if there's an AIO or aircooler called X570
Too have an X570 with an X570 with an X570
I have 570X and X570
Just stack those 570's and it'll run better. It's scientifically proven.
An RX 570, paired with a 5700X CPU, X570 board, with a 570X case
Hm
Only three, but eh
Crossfire a 570 and a 5700X for 57000X
Hm
xzibit pc
The first pc case to have spinning rims 
build pc in it, slap the wheel on your nissan
Flex on people with spinners and cpu
That's the kind of thing that is likely to die in seconds.
Just got the game and it lags really bad with my 7th gen i7 processor. I don't game on PC much, can anyone tell me which video settings I should mess with? Gtfo has so many video settings and idk what will help
Turning of Anti Aliasing always helps, as well as lowering the resolution.
For big performance gains
Then tweaking the settings themselves will probably also help.
Thanks, I appreciate the advice. I'll try that out
Some of the most demanding settings are usually shadows.
and texture quality I believe. unsure here.
Hi everyone, so one of my friend is interested in getting the game but their computer is... Quite bad.
What is the most potato config you managed to make the game run somewhat smoothly on? My friend has a AMD 3500U 2,1GHZ 4 cores and 8GB ram processor with integrated Amd vega 8, 2GB graphics card (which clearly will be the bottleneck here)
I can't imagine getting that to run smoothly tbh
just to be completely honest
Yeah, that's what I told my friend
I can't imagine them having more than 20fps on everything turned down and on the lowest possible resolution
maybe like 480 p
Maybe, but probably not for long before everything starts overheating
Still, if anyone managed to '' run'' the game on a potato computer I'd love to read how low it can go
why im getting pinged here i bet is izuku
Yes
sorry if I got anyone normals messages with that
that's okay cutie you saved us all
uwu
Fun-Fact: My pc has a wifi card... i mean... i take it... i just was confused why though.
meme names for nvidia and intel
Oh
What does mr stand for ? I know pc is personal computer
Pcmr doesn't make sense
pcmasterrace
This extremely outdated Gif is someting that represents pcmr really well lol
and for them peasant stands for console player
"star citizen"
They should update this one

@abstract kite following our earlier discussion, some madman managed to run GTFO at 28 fps with an integrated Intel HD graphics 128MB
Must look like an orgy of pixels
In slow motion
Lmfao
But no idea for his CPU, which I'd believe must be compensating greatly
Around 30FPS isn’t too bad
Then Windows 10 comes in knocking every now and then
can the vega 8 be compared to the novideo gt 1030?
Wack
probably a factor is also the RAM that the vega 8 will be using since it most likely will take System RAM. I dunno if it has dedicated vram, too lazy
then probably the ram speed is very important for the gpu performance
*The Vega 8 I meant. Ober said it does not have dedicated vram so it grabs some system ram
Yeah, we'll try with my friend today, it should "work"
it has a decent CPU speed
but I already warned them, it's gonna be a very ugly, low res, powerpoint slideshow

I don't think its that bad, I'm pretty sure the Vega APUs on desktop are only slightly behind say the 1050. I heard the new ones on Laptop now are exponentially faster despite having less CUs, the node shrink improved performance a lot surprisingly. So the next line up of APUs on desktop will be a lot faster.
Oh and if we're referring to performance on GTFO, yeah that's likely gonna be rough. But for perspective before my buddy upgraded back when the Alpha of the game was active, he was running a Skylake i3 and an R9 270X. On low settings he was getting roughly 30fps, likely being held back quite a bit by the dual core. The 270X is roughly similar to the 1050, it also has 2gb of Vram
APU mileage may vary considering we're talking about two processes in a compact design, that generates more heat than usual. You need to have fairly speedy RAM since it pulls from system RAM, and you need to allocate 2gb in the Bios to get the most out of it.
The thing is the resolution I imagine won't be 1080 imo
Correct, but in a laptop thermal throttling and power limit throttling are more of an issue
for example, I have a 2,500 laptop with a 6 core 12 thread cpu and a 1060m with 16 gb of RAM, and my game still dips below 60 fps occasionally
Was referring to the desktop APUs mainly anyway
Ah
1060M, hm
Okay so, we tried
and my friend has 30fps, everything on minimum settings, 480p resolution
it's definitely mediocre
but playable
AMD 3500U 2,1GHZ 4 cores and 8GB ram processor with integrated Amd vega 8, 2GB graphics card (which clearly will be the bottleneck here)
oml
maybe you can squeeze out some more FPS by changing the RAM (depending on how fast the current RAM is). It's also probably not worth to spend the money on that
Replacing the RAM on a laptop, hm
Never really heard a single whisper of changing parts on a laptop
It is not worth it
at best people replace thermal paste, but past that its kinda pointless
i mean most laptops will allow to easily change rams and hdd's. I am not saying upgrading the ram will help but it can if the GPU can only use system ram
I'm guessing its a cheaper laptop, so I doubt they got the best RAM you know
Found rather old pic from my pc, Bitfenix cases were new and hot back then
Green mess
and good ol' 525 fan controller
Also brand new 1070FE oh my oh my
eww who likes green x3
Clearly you do, judging by your profile picture
My current set-up has the cool side facing the wall because the lights are too bright. ;o;
But I approve of the Green + white setup.
Kek
Yes
Ironically it’d probably feel true
Red and white is pretty much the same thing I guess
Red LED's is the equivalent of getting flame stickers on your car to make it faster
Clearly you do, judging by your profile picture
@tardy tinsel eww who likes sarcasm?
Clearly you do, judging by your profile picture
@tardy tinsel 🌋
I've got an ezpz fix for them
Keep using 14nm, but increase the clock speed by 0.2GHz more!
Oh wait
At least it still does good in single-core performance
haha, the heading
Close but no cigar
Yeah hah
is there info on the price?
Expected around 560$
Still more expensive than a 3950X I think
Nah I'm wrong
3900X is pretty neat in price if you get it for 475$ which seems the usual price of it nowadays
when you want to show off your computer specs, what are the list of things you want to see?
But for about 80-90$ you're paying for 14nm chip that only gets a little more higher on clock
GPU, CPU, RAM
I am very excited for end of this year and the new ryzen lineup. I really want to build an "all-in-one" PC for all users I have, so instead of 3 physical pc's it's only one
I hope AMD does not go for extremely high prices 🙏
Yeah
Knowing AMD, won't be a lot more expensive than Intel haha
And of course, hopefully a big improvement over 3000 lineup
3900X price just keeps dropping
Q4 you can probably yoink one for 399 + new stuff will be out
If only we got new GPU's already aaaaaaa
Isn't NVIDIA getting one out in like late 2020/early 2021?
Well
Eh
That's not too bad of a date I guess
I think it was also rumored for like
mid 2020?
I doubt
They were supposed to tease them in march at GTC digital and prob summertime release
But now since everything is delayed we can expect late 2020 release
Been hearing September release for Ryzen
this is the specs for my computer
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-9700 CPU @ 3.00GHz 3.00 GHz
RAM 16 GB
nvidia geforce rtx 2070 super, 8 GB
I paid $2,200 Canadian dollars one year ago. was it worth it?
It feels like i just got my ryzen 3000 and 4000 is already on its way
Oof, non K
While I wait for my 2070S, might as well fix a few kinks in my build
The stock wraith prism cooler is just way too loud and doesn't cool my 3700X well enough for what I use it for
and UE4 apparently just eats 16GB of ram like it's nothing so I'm doubling it
Dank Rock Pro 4
big chungus
ikr
I own, epic
My case is black, inside it's mostly dark
same
Sometimes I don't even see the cooler lmao
GPU and MOBO are the only RGB elements
and UE4 apparently just eats 16GB of ram like it's nothing so I'm doubling it
maybe it's memory leaks ? 😛
That's what epic about it
naaah it doesn't leak
I'm just moving a lot of things around in the project to make it a bit more organized
40GB of assets is spicy
reminds me of this tweet 😋
https://twitter.com/pomeranian99/status/858856994438094848/photo/1
Sort of confused
it has a garbage collector
But eh
i am not programmer and not used ue4 but I guess even with garbage collection leaks can occur. Well not that your project has this, just that I seen especially games that suffer from this even with garbage collection
that said game had a very nice "hotfix" they made the app 64bit so it wouldn't crash anymore when reaching 2gb but the problem still persists lol
the game now uses around 3-4gb~ ram, after an hour or two. Thanks to x64 it doesn't crash anymore but no fix regarding leaks
Yeah they can occur but it's harder to get them
you really have to be doing something dumb
:[
Hm
oh yes, those devs are... not that great. Not gonna name ofc 🙂 it was funny how they fought the memory leaks by converting the application to x64 instead of just fixing the leaks. It took em like 6months to do. Probably it was still faster than to fix the leaks
Leaks can be mega hard to fix
Hello guys, Do you know if I can play GTFO, even if at least, with these components? Without video plate
Mother Asrock A320M-HDV R4.03 Ryzen M-ATX
Processor AMD Ryzen 5 1600 AF Zen+12nm AM4 Wraith Stealth Cooler
source Aerocool Cylon 500W Full Range RGB 80 Plus Bronze
Nope 😦
Feels weird saying "graphics card" lmao
sorry xdd
the one i have broke a few month ago and i can aford a new one so, i was hoping that i can play without one at least
damn
how did you break your old gpu?
how did you break your old gpu?
@brisk badger 5 years of use, the poor did not give more
I don't think it should have even happened even with a lot of gaming
Haha
Dont know really
what broke?
@brisk badger dont know really, in my country we are in quarintine so, i cant send it to repair
I don't have a good refrigeration either so maybe he burned something
okay I ask different: How did you come to the conclusion that the GPU is dead / defect / not working
is it physically damaged? blown capacitor etc
the computer was constantly turned off and occasionally I did not take the video
is it physically damaged? blown capacitor etc
@brisk badger Nope
first i thinked it was the power source
the chances are that the GPU is perfectly fine is high
Maybe it's the PSU
If you bought a prebuilt
They looooove to use bad PSUs with it sometimes
didnt know that
Like it'll be the very bare minimum for the PSU to work
what was the name of your gpu?
i send the graphic card to MSI suport (because I still had a guarantee) and give me a "new one" and it dont work too
The Graphic Card is an RX 580 4gb OC
Oof
well the problem is your pc / setup / configuration and not your GPU
also I dont understand how the GPU is 5 years old, you still have warranty and send it in and receive another one. The rx 580 is not 5 years old AFAIK
really? because i try that in my fathers PC wich have this specs:
power source: XT600 Bronze
RX 580 8GB OC Nitro+
I5-8400
16gb Ram
and i try to change the graphic for the Rx with 4gb and didnt work too
also I dont understand how the GPU is 5 years old, you still have warranty and send it in and receive another one. The rx 580 is not 5 years old AFAIK
@brisk badger dont know too
how do you install the new graphics card?
Or that, haha
i doubt 2 gpu's have the exact problem
not to mention that msi will test their gpu's they send back
First wait 30 minutes before removing the video card, then remove it, clean the socket carefully and blow compressed air, then carefully put the new one (until it fits) and then remove the battery and put it back 1 minute later
Carefully, hm
Also try first to put 1 of the 2 ram memories and then put the other to see if it was the problem but nothing happened
and did you removed the drivers on the pc's when swapping the cards
it's also recommended to remove the driver evne if the cards are identical
Yes, i boot all the disk and install the drivers
And the old video card (the one that was 5 years old) was a bit bent but the new one that they gave me was flawless and nothing, does it do what I told you, maybe it is a problem with the socket of the motherboard?
with the new card, you get any signal?
first, it loaded to the windows screen, and then it shut down and never do it again (it start but it dont show any signal)
i bought an HDMI-VGA adapter but it didn't work either
does it show the bios (if the bios shown previously)
did you try to safe boot windows?
just show it the first time and then it never showed again dont matter how much times i restart the pc
I do not think the hardware is damaged at all. It's either a software issue or unstable voltage
but you say the same thing happens on another machine. So I am not sure but I also don't know the setup of both machines
that msi sends you back a GPU that has the exact same problem is unlikely but I guess could happen. I assume they do extensive testing of goods they provide as warranty
and last but not least your story of how old the GPU is, how you still have warranty and the model of the GPU does not add up
Soft reset or hard reset?
i really dont know that of the warranty too, normaly its 1-3 years but this one was 5 years (when i found it without hope and read that i was surprised and contact the msi suport)
Soft reset or hard reset?
@sick reef Hard Reset
Hard reset as in CMOS reset, then?
okay, if you have this long warranty then you are lucky (in my country it was 1 year forever and now finally 2) but still: the rx580 is not 5 years old
Hard reset as in CMOS reset, then?
@sick reef didnt try with the CMOS
so 10/10 razer ornata chrome yay or nay?
CMOS reset a few times, almost always, as a rule of thumb.
When switching parts, that is.
that's new for me
That's what I had to do to even get this rig running.
Has saved me a fair few times from non-issues.
didnt know that, i will try it then but if it dont work i will wait until the quarantine finish and send it to suport again, thx for the help guys 🙂
@hidden otter my tip: try to boot into windows safe mode
Roger, i will try it too
with the corrupt gpu ofc
may not help but if it's a windows then this is the go to
*a windows issue
ok, thx a lot to all! going to do it right now
np, and you don't need to wait 30mins to install the card btw. just remove the power plug and wait ~2min
i got a rasberry pi w/ the google voice aiy kit for free
what kinda uses can i do with this thing
Will a 16 GB ram proccessor be enough to run GTFO?
What is the recommended about of ram in order to run GTFO smoothly?
Ok, thank you!
no worries
what cpu + gpu are you running, if you don't mind me asking? @rich gate
For my GPU I am using a ASRock B450M Pro4
And for my CPU I am using a AMD Ryzen 5 2600X
no worries
I'm not sure with the GPU then.
Im currently trying to get it built with the help of a friend.
ah
got a parts list you can send my way?
I can give you some suggestions ^^
I build and work on PCs for a living
well, "for a living"
I'm still a student, but it's nice for money on the side
My friend has already ordered the parts, but thank you! And I'll send a screenshot for the parts list.
ah, got it
Heres the list. Some of the parts were changed but it's still generally the same.
hm
alright
you'll be able to run the game alright, but that gpu is gonna be a little bit of a bottleneck
Ok. If I'm at least able to run the game, then thats perfect.
Ok. Thank you for your help!
no worries, feel free to ping me if you need any more help! ^^
Tech Priest do you buy used things from people and flip 'em? :>
I dont know if this is the right place, however I am finding difficulty where my pc turns off when I go to D1, and only D1.
What are your PC specs?
i7-9700 @3ghz
rtx 2060
ram 16gb
That's strange, hm
yes :c
Is it a laptop? Or a regular PC
regular desktop
yes
Then can you see the power supply in it? If so, can you tell me how much wattage it is?
Damn, 10900F getting shit on lmao https://www.techradar.com/news/intel-core-i9-10900f-power-requirements-leaked-and-youll-need-a-beefy-cpu-cooler
Said to be 65W TDP, but instead goes 224W at stock
Damn wack
Toasty
They literally just took some 9th gen CPU's, Added 2 cores to flagship and made them bit more aggressive
hahah
Yeah lmao
That's just it
Nothing special, still crappy 14nm
They don't want it smaller 
Must be really hard job being intel fan right now
best thing is that rocket lake that comes after these will be 14nm too
2021
They probably will do okay with their Gee Pee Youuu
Fucking wow
What is wrong with Intel
They're being pure Shintel at this point
We can expect some competition 2022 vs AMD's 5nm+
I mean they should really not sleep any longer than that
If they ever do 10-12nm
Sorry, about my late reply, it says 225W - with 460W power supply is what it says.
I'm not a tech guy, so I have no clue D:
If they steer away from monolithic dies in the future they might lose their praised gaming perf. and once they go under 14nm -> clockspeeds will go down.
Sometimes some things need to be sacrificed
So they better have something real special cooked up in the labs

Because they are even loosing on mobile now lol
10nm desktop is only 5 years late at this point
True
They are probably just skipping it
?
Is anyone else experiencing similar issues with D1 turning their pcs off? o:
Might be you, cause 460W ain't lookin good
Is D1 so scary that it just turns your PC off
would I need a higher supply?
More likely yeah
Doubt its some sort of known issue within the game
:/?
So I'm not entirely sure what it is
and it only shuts off at D1, lol
^
ok, thanks for your help.
it's interesting: In the long-term, x86-64 CPU's will fade away from the server section. More and more ARM's chips are used, or ASICs. I wonder when the time will be
and yea the prices are "normal" for the server chips. I think back some time they were even CPU's sold for more than 10k
I think AMD might be going for RISC-V down the line
Well hey, it's got free shipping! That's a nice bonus!
it would be nice if RISC establishes but I have my doubt
Got a question:
Would like to do some overclocking tomorrow on the CPU and I am going to disable one core (I don't need 4 active cores, 3 are fine for what that box is doing). My question now is: Is there a way to tell the BIOS exactly which core should be disabled? I would like to find out which of the 4 cores is the weakest and disable that. But in the Bios I can only do: Disable one core, disable two cores etc. I also don't understand if the BIOS will select one core at random to be disabled at boot.
You could do uneven overclocking, and see which cores fails most easily. Unsure if you can choose which core to be disabled or if it takes the highest number one.
what is uneven overclocking? maybe my cpu doesn't support it; it's an 7700k
I have the option for mine to have 6 or 8 different clocks on my cores.
so every core runs a different speed?
oh that's interesting but i don't have this feature. What I could do is to tell, when 4 cores in usage use this frequency, when only 3 are used use that frequency etc.
but I have no overview then of what cores are used or at least I don't find any documentation about
Wouldn't prime95 assign the same worker to the same core per every test?
High voltage, then try and push high frequences specifically to see which one gives out first when you've reached the performance roof.
Don't quote me on that I guess. I'm unsure too.
oh it's already overclocked to the max and working. I just don't need 4 cores but 3 and I thought I could squeeze more MHz out if I can find the weakest core
Yeah, exactly.
Hence, the test. You try and push it further and further, and see which one gives out first, and most frequently.
Above your current OC.
i don't know to debug what core exactly stopped working
That is under the assumption that Prime95 assign the same worker to the same core.
and if only prime95 crashes and no BSOD
yes but usually if oc is too high the whole machine says good bye :p
havn't used prime95 for years tbh so I vaguely remember
it's just stupid whoever designed the bios. to allow to disable cores but not allow to disable specific cores. Because I am certain that it doesn't deactivate the same core to prolong the cpu's lifespan
okay it's also weird to disable cores, but that machine is doing only one thing. running a single threaded application
But all this depends on that you actually get to choose as well, and I don't think you do.
I try tomorrow to play a bit with it
another question:
AMD rx 580 (4gb) or the AMD Fury X GPU for a PC
I have both cards here but dunno which to use. Focus would be energy efficiency (where the rx580 wins) and as high as possible FPS
Probably 580.
I kinda can't say to the AMD fury X. It kinda broke my heart. What unloved GPU by papa AMD
*can't say goodbye
You can use it as a bookstand.
no because it has a AIO XD
Or you put it in the forever pile and use it as a spare.
I believe the graphics chip died. It started wiping windows from the computer it was on.
there is already 6x amd 7970 waiting to do something xD
if you havn't tried already. Try a vBIOS flash. It very often helps. Of course not if the hardware is damaged
I'm unsure if I could do that if I can't boot safely with it connected to something.
no need to boot into windows
Do think it just died of natural causes, really.
well you could flash from within windows
Unless some capacitor etc. broke, I doubt, especially with High End GPUs
I don't have hardware to run it enough to flash the bios on it, at least yet.
maybe a local repair shop could take a look. Well if it's worth the money
And it's very likely hardware damage, or so I would presume.
And if that in turn is the graphical chip, it's dead regardless.
you can also send the GPU to a random guy on the iwebs (me) and I can take a look :P. I used to repair hardware for some reason till I got upset.
if you are interested in ressurcting, take a good camera, make photos of it and we will see :p
I could, but then I'd have to remove the shroud, and cooling plate.. I could do that I guess, at least to take picture.
true. or sell it. THere is people (like me) who buy defect hardware
It's a great thematical bookstop.
Since it's a FE titan, it looks beefy as all hell.
Never had a graphics card wipe drives before, but still boot, and be accessible for a minute or two.
It ain't a bad card, so I'll look into it and see. Very likely it has ran its course, though.
very unlikely that a GPU chip dies. maybe hardware on the PCB can stop working but that can be replaced "easily" with soldering and googling the right replacement parts (which can get difficult without any schematics)
does your GPU have a dual Bios mode?
could try flipping the switch on it and see what it does
You tell me. FE Titan Black. Not a card I actually know much about
Don't think FE has bios switches.
I googled a bit but it doesn't look like there is a second vbios sadly
maybe could try without drivers and just let windows pick the default one
or if you have a spare hdd and time. install a windows copy on that only for the flashing but probably not worth it
or install the flash tool on a memory stick and boot it from the stick
if the gpu dies during the flashing process then it's bricked ofc
HI, I was wondering if anybody would be able to help me with some frame rate issues?
The computer I play GTFO on is not running on minimum requirements. Rather, most of the recommended requirements are met (with the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 940 rather than a NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970), and I have an ethernet cord plug into my computer
Despite this, I have framerates of 15 fps (18 at most), which makes it extremely difficult to get accurate shots and have smooth running gameplay. I've lowered a couple of graphics settings in game, but I haven't seen any real improvement.
Are there any specific "fixes" or adjusted I can make to help the game have better frames?
Minimum basically means it's somewhat playable pretty much
Not guaranteed 60FPS or anything
So, despite my computer running at or above recommended requirements, I most likely can't even get it above 20 fps?
I'm not even sure if a 940 is on par with min spec
I mean it might be, but the low end cards aren't usually the greatest
You probably could, expected to have more optimization at some point anyway
Couldn't say, could be an OEM only card
it's a mobile only pretty sue
OS: Windows 10 64-Bit
Processor: Intel Core i7 7500 U
Memory: 16 GB RAM
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 940
DirectX: Version 11
Network: Broadband Internet connection
Storage: 16 GB available space
I have a laptop
Yes
That's a dual core i7
Seriously?
Plus it's a laptop, aren't those usually less powerful than the desktop GPUs?
Less power, and thermally limited
i take this as reference although it's not a proof: https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-940M-vs-Nvidia-GTX-660/m28796vs2162
Dual core as well
no idea how they measure average fps
Userbenchmark is apparently shit I guess?
So, even if I try to adjust in game graphics, I'm just going to have bad frames no matter what?
They're giving false info
I wouldn't say its false info, but its kind of pointless info
idk, it's the only page I found by a quick research that shows somewhat an comparison
It doesn't tell you actual performance, just how it benchmarks on their program
Well sort of, they changed how the percentage is calculated
So they weigh 4 core and lower performance higher than higher core
So, my computer has worse graphics than minimum?
I don't understand a lot of the tech talk... I'm just trying to find a way to make it slightly easier to play...
So, are there any suggestions on graphics? I would like to see if I figure out a way to make frames a little better before I have to go out and get a new computer to play with friends
Yeah I don't think you meet min specs
Quick question. 73c under full load is okay?
As long as it doesn't reach 80c+ right?
Most CPU and GPU limits are between 85-95c limits. At 73 you're fine, but consider increasing your cooling efficiency.
73 under full load is high, but if that's the thermal max, then it should be fine. Be careful not to have bad circulation in your room.
I get temps like that running Folding@Home, so yeah fairly typical in heavy cpu loads
Hey! My first time here in this channel
I am actually in a pretty weird situation so I needed you guys advice on what to do
"I was working on my pc when suddenly electricity went out and my pc turned off
Without saving anything as I expected
But when I try to turn it on now
It's just showing me a bsod with a error called : 'Critical process Died' and I test everything including ram, psu check as well as doing an automatic repair but apparently nothing seems to work.
Even when I try reset this pc it just states that an error occurred.
If you guys have any previous experience with this sort of case plz give advice on how I can I fix it
Thanks in advance"
Can you try booting into windows safe mode?
it should automatically try entering safe mode after 3 failed normal boots
else you can shut the power when you see the windows logo
if you manage to load into safe mode, open the terminal (Win + R key -> type cmd) and type sfc /scannow. will take a while
should see this window before entering safe mode:
https://www.digitalcitizen.life/sites/default/files/gdrive/win10_safe_mode/win10_safe_mode_13.png
Press Troubleshoot -> "see more recovery options" -> "startup settings" -> "enable safe mode with networking"
@full copper Is this the only message you get?
Yes
Did wooza's thing work?
When I try to enter safe mode it's just give me the same error again
Ok, at this point i would intall Windows again
I think I should do that
I didn't want to lose my newer projects but looks like that's the only choice I have rn
Maybe install it on another Harddrive?
If you need help, just ask again :3
Okay
reinstalling windows should not delete your files
i also recommend to reinstall windows if it even crashes in safe mode
you could do the sfc /command before the safe boot though to try but not sure if it can help
@brisk badger he should do a clean installation anyways. If anything is colliding with windows at this point, it's faster if any other problem occurs.
yea i also recommend to reinstall but also mentioning that windows ships tools in a pre boot environment
I started the download on my other laptop, it'll work hopefully
Did thermal testing with P95 small fft and heaven. Good way to heat up your room!
Yes?
@dusky pumice What do you need help with?
i don't understand people who say "can i ask a question?" first of all, you just did, second of all, if you had just asked the next response would have been the (possible) answer instead of someone needing to ask what the problem is.
It is just kind.
yes in actual conversation, not on a text chat
I don't mind it ^^
What about a text conversation?
i dunno, what about it?
lavars: its not about minding it, but if you want to get help you need to ask an actual question. add all the extra steps you like, but i only have so much time to answer question and read chat
It is. I don't mind the little steps. I mean. you are not the only person ^^ there are a lot who can answers the question of someone.
This dude is autistic don't understand social interaction
whats with the ad hominem? that's not very friendly, if we're going to analyze social interaction
That's cheap....?
Sounds sketchy... probably older that got used for mining. Which means they can be faulty
You can straight up ask a question while including a greeting.
You're still polite and keeping your dumb morals intact while not wasting time for no reason.
When talking about a question in a public channel, if you actually asked the question it's also more likely that someone who's just switching between channels will respond.
While they wouldn't have responded to your meaningless message
good websites
It's not a communication issue on our side, it's an issue on your side for not realising that communications face to face or online are different.
@lilac geyser @ornate ginkgo unrelated to the topic of PC builds, but regarding the asking permission to ask a question, some servers have dedicated question asking channels but are locked behind tags you cant get automatically, and that way you dont get kicked or banned instantly for asking a question in the general chat
It's not a problem. If they want to ask first, they can.
If they don't return, that's their problem.
If they get agitated they don't get a response, which in this case they did get a response, that's their problem.
But they don't have to ask the question instantly
And it shouldn't be demanded/required of them.
There's a lot of things you don't "have" to do.
But when provided with tons of pro's to doing x opposed to y, please pick x.
Yeah, no. Arbitrary rules on random people are in most cases not my jam. Don't want to have structure outsiders won't inherenty know almost only as a basis to demean or correct.
I'm not trying to make a rule, I'm not going to send you to hell for not following the above. I'm not expecting people to follow the above by default either.
I'm trying to teach anyone reading the message above, that there's a more efficient way of asking your question. Beneficial to you and the person helping you.
If they didn't return to even see if anyone has answered, do you think they'd return to read about a social norm they probably had not even considered they had broken?
anyone reading the message
So not the person that actually didn't follow the norm then?
Instead the people that do?

I was providing more information towards lavars that saw it as a "polite" thing, I'd like to think my message provided information useful to him.
And was also commenting on what cheese said, referencing that we're autistic and don't know how to communicate
I don't know why you're unable to see all of this...
I'm very certain at least one person can gain some knowledge out of it
I see it as quite useless as the only reason there is a need to continue it is because other people annoy themselves over it, and if they do, that's their problem, not yours.
Not saying it is a completely bad thing, the norm itself, but correcting your own behaviour because specifc people dislike it is a futile cause of trying to the square into the triangle hole.
The point isn't correcting your behaviour because others dislike it. As mentioned, it's beneficial (more efficient, not a like/dislike thing) to both parties.
I'll stop discussing this as it's pretty borderline off-topic
people who begin their sentence with "i have a question" followed by nothing are idiots. simple
you call a tech support and start a conversation like this?
actually if it's on the phone I woudn't care as the customer is charged 😛
the probability to solve issues of people who ask if they can ask a question is very low so I am not sure :S
Well. I Really would keep this conversation going.
But not the right channel ^^
But still let's keep in mind that we are nice to everyone ^^
I will try to think about something funny for the next guy with the question
reinstall the pc? why?
No. I need to reinstall it. As i had a problem that could not be fixed 🤷♂️ Activision
It's only 87GB, no big deal 
cough 1,5Mb/s
holy shit
;_;
and 87gb is the download size not installation size?
installation size, but download size is very very similar
I have no idea.
Also had a few patches sized 3-13GB
Didn't add to the size, just the hassle of downloading a lot
I mean... it is a huge game with a lot of content... but oh no!
they did make some strides with graphics and audio for the new Modern Warfare
like airstrikes or being inside a plane being ridiculously loud for immersion without an option to tone specifics down.
Depending on who you ask it's a good or bad feature
I mean i know the game will run... but i never had a pc that could run games that well xD
Is it telling you that you cannot play it?
And have you played it before Lavars?
More likely it’s the most recent update that fixed not playing MW because I had same problem too, I updated drivers and it was fully fixed
Apparently something something drivers were sort of fucked that MW wouldn’t have been able to run without an update
sorry i forgot to ask XD
i wanted to know something about windows 10
i have a notebook with AMD Radeon A8 Apu 6410 HD
2 Ghz
and 8 of Ram
i currently run windows 8.1
the question is if Windows 10 right now is better in performance than 8.1
hm
probably
windows 10 is currently more supported
and I've never had any performance related issues
my drivers are outdated from 4 years ago
well you can certainly update further than that
maybe not to the most recent version
mmm ok
but somewhere sooner than 4 years
i saw that the latest drivers in windows 10 are from this year 😮
yeah, make the upgrade to win10 lol
:DDD
ty
XDDD
i currently run games like resident evil 2 remake, although kinda slow
in lowest settings but maybe was cause of the outdated drivers
maybe i can play much better right now with all that 😄
I am kind of curious
How much would a full server cost you?
Say, idk a small business or personal server for ones home?
2-3 people would be using it 24/7 like a regular PC for Gaming, Rendering, Streaming, Video Watching Ect...
i don't what you plan doing on a server
what the server is used for. you can make a server for 20 dollar
you can make a server for 20'000 dollar
Maybe like an estimated price of buying a whole server, you mean?
Yes
well people usually buy server after they found out what they are going to do with it
if you buy a server for 2000 dollar then put one website on it where you get 10 people visiting the page every month, it's wasted money
Don't need to spend a ton if you just want to put together a minecraft server for you and your buddies 
so, there is no answer to such a question
Theoretically I found I want and it is a huge success, money disregarded.
Just as an example 
you can turn your pc into a server if you want
That I can
Hm, is it possible to run a server on a Raspberry Pi?
of course
XD
you laugh. most people who own servers do not need more than a PI as server
I use a pi myself for as server for some stuff. perfectly fine if you know what it can handle and what you want to serve
if you plan on hosting a minecraft server on a pi then yea that will not be fun
That is actually looks nice though.
but for stuff like filesharing, web server, dns server etc. it's more than enough
But is there anything beefier?
Linus Media Group
Like say what you are talking about say I wanted to host a Minecraft server.
sure. any PC can be a server. there is no physical limit of what's a server and what's a client
Yeah any decent pc
If I wanted to do that I would imagine I would need to reconfigure my PC as in my Ryzen 7 3700x Processor?
no, you just open the minecraft server exe, do some port forwarding and voila
That simple?
Of course
yeah
How else do kids got minecraft servers?
in short yes
Fuck if I know xD
it's not a "real server" because you most likely will turn off your pc at one point
but it function as a server
you can get a VPS for really cheap, $5 or even less if you hunt
its essentially a virtulized instance of an operating system running on a normal "server"
so you are renting part of a server
server owner could have dozens of VPSs running on one server
its the way to go if you just want to start messing with a webserver, running your own VPN, or other simple service
i got a raspberry pi 4 model b for free
what can i do with this machine
(also came with a google voice aiy kit which adds a speaker, mic, and button)
Gib pi
You can set up a pihole to block ads across all different platforms, including devices that don't have any apps for blocking ads.
I use it on my LG smart TV and I get no Hulu ads anymore.
noice
so if i have a laptop with intel core i5-6200U(2.3GHz) with turbo boost up to 2.8GHz, and it has a GeForce 940MX with 2GB dedicated VRAM. how should i adjust my current settings to get better performance in game? i want to try to improve my frame rate so i don't have that frame stuttering that sometimes happens(it makes it really hard to aim and hit the sleepers heads during firefights), but i also don't want to sacrifice graphical quality too the point that it looks like I'm fighting undefined blobs with a undefined blob gun in a environment populated with undefined blob props XD.
here are some pics of my current game video settings:
if anyone knows what i need to do to make my performance better i will greatly appreciate any help you can provide so thanks in advance!
Well a Laptop with that CPU, alongside the GPU is okay. I don't think you can really push it much more without spending money. You "Could" try to Cull for your GPU or CPU to pull more performance, but I doubt it will help much in this case.
@normal plinth The game is a bit of a CPU Hog, dunno why, but it is like that.
hoppppeeefullly I'll be getting all the parts for my build this week
Best be posting glorious pictures here.
yeees
Ooh, that’s the same AIO I have.
Anyone know if this game supports Mac systems?
I think it says in the Steam store if it does.
I can’t check right now, but I highly doubt GTFO is available on Mac.
I see.. I did see the system requirements on there say WIndows 7 or Windows 10, but that's too bad then :( trying to get a copy for a friend haha
Has your friend considered cloud gaming, @spiral elbow?
I know this game is available on GeForce Now.
Oh never heard of that, will look into it. Thanks!
No problem! I’ve even played with several people who were using it and they had nothing but positive things to say about it.
Gotcha. Thanks for the help :)
what does the cpu culling setting actually do? I havent messed with it cause i terrified it might fry my computer if im not carefull.
at this point it needs a clarification by the dev team since many are just outputting something like: "It’s telling the cpu to do more than the gpu"
so considering the information provided alittle bit further up would i want to adjust my setting?
@normal plinth (hey btw old friend, totally failed to recognize you 😛 )
if you your CPU is more powerful than your GPU set it either to large or extreme, if your GPU is beefier, then set it to low/medium
I do not confirm this, just saying what everyone else says
@viscid pawn that’s a pretty good selection, I wonder how much it would cost you if you were to change to the ryzen 3600 with 2x8GB DDR4-3600MHz RAM though
what ssd should get
Depends
Will you just use the SSD for boot or general storage? Does your motherboard have M.2 slots?
ok my laptop has an empty sdd slot. 500gb
you should consider getting an m.2 to boot off of
He wanted general storage
I know, just sayin
Plus, he can switch the OS to SSD
best case scenario, he's not running apps off of boot ssd
which is why I recommended a dedicated m.2
but in most cases, yeah he doesn't really need a separate boot specific SSD
Indeed
Only have a 1TB SSD, everything boots fast
Don't see a need to make it boot any faster
Windows key + R key
Type msinfo32
This one
msinfo32
yeah that one roy
I think I found it
I have 16 ram but only one channel
This laptop runs gtfo Great
nice notebook. I don't think you need more than 16gb if it's for gaming. at least doubling the ram will not get you more fps
Yeah, it is unnecessary to get more
Ram only does so much for gaming ^^
Well, gaming only takes so much ram*
Ooh, that's pretty good


