Pizza Laptop
#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk
vapid crypt
fleet canopy
Fucking amazing
abstract kite
Little ceasers would be proud.
dense wasp
that is amazing:D
abstract kite
No u
vapid crypt
PC PC
dense wasp
❤️
void perch
Ok, now she's recognizing the 8 cores
void perch
cause what my server was built with. intel is common for server hardware
abstract kite
Huh
fleet canopy
Intel has benefits that AMD may not have
abstract kite
So, what do you use to cool that behemoth of a server?
fleet canopy
Like best gaming CPU
void perch
air, just normal fans the server come with, and air cooling and my AC
abstract kite
Oh. I thought you'd be liquid cooling.
void perch
generally don't liquid cool servers
abstract kite
Fair enough.
void perch
so this is windows 10, as a virutal machine running off of a server itself that hosts multiple VMs
abstract kite
So all you need is a cable connected to the server and a monitor?
late sorrel
Epyc’s been making a stand though
fleet canopy
Yeah I guess
fleet canopy
D0c probably would opt in for more hard drives though
void perch
something isn't compatible most likely
which is causing the ui to hang
i also don't have a gfx card
fleet canopy
No graphics card, damn
abstract kite
you're trying to run GTFO with just a server CPU?
fleet canopy
Running on pure CPU power
abstract kite
does GTFO even take advantage of multiple cores
void perch
Yes i am Sushi and idk
it's causing the RAM to spike, so at this point I'm honestly just waiting to see if it crashes then check the crash logs
it's a server so no need for a hardware gfx card
my goal was to see how much fps i can get from cpu rendering
abstract kite
I'm fairly confident unity is not optimized to do what you're trying to do lol
and come now, servers can use GFX cards for processing too - esp if you get into the ML world, though totally irrelevant for a home server
fleet canopy
Irrelevant if only needing CPU power
void perch
oh yeah at work we have a server with some beast gfx cards in them for testing, but not my personal one
here you can see when i started gtfo
abstract kite
I thought systems didn't benefit from multiple GPUs..?
fleet canopy
For workstations, yeah
abstract kite
0.o depends what you're doing
fleet canopy
Probably like 3D designing animation
void perch
we were trying to offload cpu processing to the gpu to try and get more users per server, to see which is more cost effective, buy gpu's or better cpu's
abstract kite
GTFO Minecraft Server When?
fleet canopy
Yeah!
fleet canopy
But how’s it gonna work for GTFO
abstract kite
that server could definitely run minecraft. still surprised about GTFO
fleet canopy
You’ll need to somehow make a whole mod for GTFO Minecraft
void perch
oh i thought you just meant a minecraft server only for gtfo players, not like gtfo themed
late sorrel
gtfo Mc Ferber would be cool
fleet canopy
Ferber
abstract kite
When shit posting actually becomes a somewhat good idea. Lol
so GTFO is run from physical servers, hm. for some reason assumed it would be on a cloud provider like amazon's gamelift or azure's playfab
void perch
the game gtfo is run on your machine, networking is peer to peer, and they use a service called playfab for storing game data
fleet canopy
Peer to peer matchmake
void perch
there are no dedicated servers
the server I'm playing with is my personal one
and i wanted to see how well GTFO would run on it considering i have a lot of CPU and RAM and was like 'fuck it, why not'
abstract kite
That's what he wants you to believe. 
fleet canopy
Hah
abstract kite
oh yeah, of course gtfo doesn't need dedicated servers when its p2p I'm a donkey lmao.
just something to deal with data and authentication
D0c secretly runs the GTFO servers. He just doesn't want anyone to know! 
void perch
i probably could. i have gigabit fiber
void perch
really faster internet
abstract kite
Oh you have Google Fiber?
void perch
att fiber
abstract kite
huh, I forget ATT does more than phones sometimes.
I hear ATT internet is hot shit.
void perch
it's good for the fiber i have
abstract kite
I mean if it's a gig line its hard for it to be bad
Hmm
Well not that
I'm saying in my area.
I wonder...
fleet canopy
Check area and check internet
And also check prices for in general
Because some states are expensive as fuck
abstract kite
really the internet service per provider can vary between shine and suck with a single zip code
void perch
weird.. I'm only getting 380 down and 370 up out of 1g.
fleet canopy
My brother went around world and still is, but he used to hang around in other states, and said everything was cheaper than my state
abstract kite
you're probably on a shared line doc, I have the same issue here - some other people in my block pull from the same gig line and it drops bandwidth down, on weekdays during work hours it's 980-900, but weekends at peak times more like 300-400.
fleet canopy
So just check internet, how it is, what’s the damn price, and if it’s all good, you’ll be coolio
void perch
nah, not that. i'm doing some heavy stuff right now and my various equipment hasn't been rebooted in a bit
abstract kite
at one of our offices all the damn companies have such bad internet and no one wants to build anything more than crap T1s, we eventually just went with a fixed microwave connection
oof
Fuck
ah you're just spreading bandwidth around too much then?
late sorrel
I should set up pi-hole again
abstract kite
I mean not really.
Just faster internet would be okay.
Spectrum will still have a monopoly in my area... -Sigh
abstract kite
Wow how dare you.
Are ya using hyper-V or VMWare, just out of curiosity
and don't say oracle.
void perch
Vmware ESXi
abstract kite
good stuff.
late sorrel
what did virtual box do to you
flat peak
buy an xbox
fleet canopy
Lol no
abstract kite
We recently had a push to migrate all our on-premise servers/datacenters to the cloud and one of the branch offices had their virtual machines running out of virtualbox enterprise, it had so many issues exporting the VHD's in the correct static format for Azure to intake, cost days of troubleshooting and stress. Everyone else running Hyper-V & VMware was pleasant and simple.
abstract kite
ye, left a sour taste about virtualbox in my head even if it isn't fully warranted.
compact pier
I use VMWare
abstract kite
late sorrel
when you put the power switch in the wrong place
tardy tinsel
when you buy parts and then you realize they don't fit together
lament fiber
it took me longer to figure out how to connect my case's power button than to put the whole thing together.
I had plugged it into a usb port instead of where it goes.
late sorrel
I put my whole pc together and put the switch into the wrong pins
so it took me about a third of the whole build just to figure out what was wrong
It booted perfectly after that though
finite violet
i've sent back a cpu thinking i broke it but it was just cables not connected properly
my brother did the cables so i blame him
late sorrel
oof
abstract kite
oof
jade ermine
it definitely does
dense wasp
intense
late sorrel
comparison from new-old gpu
Missing the front cover on the old one but that doesn’t matter
cat rolled up
(had to end otherwise he might have bonked his nose on the fans)
late sorrel
kinda sad it won’t work
it’s more of a windows issue though
so I can’t select it as a GPU to game with
I might be able to disable it in windows settings however, I was too lazy earlier
stark plover
what are good things to use a gpu for
producitivity wise
i got a radeon vii might as well make full use of it
late sorrel
mine bitcoin
stark plover
amazing
brisk badger
is not wrong to mine cryptos. You have to hope at one day the prices go up though but currently the difficulty of mining blocks is low because of the value (still have 2 rigs since 2012 in place running but more of fun)
If you want to more useful things for humanity try folding@home 👍
vapid crypt
Oh I remember hearing about Folding@home from Moore's Law is Dead
Pretty cool 
Speaking of which, more info on Nvidia's Ampere https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEepGznG4kU
abstract kite
I woke up today to see my computer restarted, cool. The Microsoft Update went. I login and Chrome is open, I than click Discord and my whole system locks up.
old patrol
Oof
marsh sequoia
@abstract kite Well that sucks, I was hoping to get 16 gig cards. Highest is 12? RIP.
marsh sequoia
Whatever happened to the hbm2 stacking to be able to get these higher capacities.
Hear about hbm2 then bam, "oh we released ddr6 instead"
vapid crypt
Its cause its quite a bit more expensive
AMD has at least used it in their Vega cards, there's a chance their highest end Navi will too
And Nvidia literally only uses it in their server gpus I think, maybe some Quadros?
Volta used it I know that
vapid crypt
I think that's just marketing
Wait it only supports 30hz?
The fuck is that HDMI 1.4?
abstract kite
I... don't know.
vapid crypt
Looking it up that seems to be the case, it says HDMI 1.4 supports up to 4k at 24hz. If they're calling it a 4k capable I'm sure they would exaggerate that 
abstract kite
If there is such thing as a 4k HDMI I would like it. xD
vapid crypt
I mean yeah HDMI 1.4 was the first variant that supports 4k, 2.0 supports up to 60hz
And at some point graphics cards should be getting 2.1 that brings the refresh up for 4k
Probably double it maybe more I would guess
abstract kite
I need to get a 2.0 Cable than
vapid crypt
Most HDMI cables should be 2.0
Which I believe only has a max refresh of 120 at any resolution below 4k, I guess I mean there might be exceptions
abstract kite
My Philips TV says its 4k which was a bold face lie. It doesn't even have 1 Display Port.
vapid crypt
Well HDMI supports 4k
Its just depending on the version, you'll get different refresh rates
If its a recent TV then its likely using HDMI 2.0 ports
Thinking about it, there's likely no reason to use Display ports unless the TV was made to support higher refresh rates
median moon
155hz 4K HDMI? 👀
vapid crypt
HDMI doesn't go over 120 ever I'm pretty sure
marsh sequoia
@vapid crypt Display port is the only cable that goes over 120
clear quartz
noice
vapid crypt
Wow
halcyon comet
Hi guys how are you
I have a problem I don't know if someone could help me
Every time I play a first person or third person game
My monitor's frame rate is outdated, Of course, this was solved by activating the vsinc but That limits my games to 60fps obviously And in the moments where I have to turn quickly or where there is a lot of action there is a minimum decrease of fps but now it gets lagy. i have an hp LE2002x, 1600*900 - 60Hz, is my monitor obsolete to games?
vapid crypt
So I don't think a monitor can technically be obsolete, people still use and prefer CRT. So are you displaying framerate, and what games in particular?
fleet canopy
This feels like one of those common moments where the guy asks what or how to access the specs page
halcyon comet
cpu: Icore 5-4440 3.10Hz (4CPUs)
16gb ram
graphics Nvidia 950 gtx 2gb vram
windows 10
vapid crypt
If you're getting rough drops in more recent games, it could be a vram bottleneck
Well maybe, 1600x900 isn't that heavy; but 2gb of vram is a bit old at this point
halcyon comet
so, i should change my gcard for a new one?
vapid crypt
Possibly, that's what it sounds like. Try turning down settings if you can
fleet canopy
Or change to a smaller resolution
vapid crypt
And also if you have any older games action games, see if you get these drops even then. It makes sense League wouldn't have this problem, that game is super lightweight. Hell the 950 is exactly the kind of card a league player would get, it was advertised to players of those kinds of games
fleet canopy
Probably will look like shit, but it’ll run better
halcyon comet
It's another problem because I recently played Assassins Creed Odyssey in very low graphics and the problem remained with it
and older games too, and my monitor still does the same thing
fleet canopy
Again, can try using a lower resolution
vapid crypt
What is it that the monitor is doing?
halcyon comet
i took it form google images, but this is the problem
fleet canopy
Yeah that’s normal
I’d love me some good portal playing now tbh
You can just ignore it unless it really bothers you lmao
halcyon comet
I fell in love with the backstory btw
vapid crypt
That is screen tearing
halcyon comet
i played like that For 8 or 9 years. Ithink it already bothered me
fleet canopy
Well then
vapid crypt
Basically the graphics card is rendering at a higher framerate than the refresh rate of the monitor, so the monitor is having trouble keeping up with the frames
vapid crypt
V-sync fixes it cause typically it locks the framerate to the refresh rate, drawbacks are input lag
Could be minimal, depends on the game really
fleet canopy
I’m gonna be benchmarking League Of Legends with my 1080 Ti, 8700K, 2x16GB of DDR4-2400MHz ( really fast memory )
vapid crypt
Are you sure it wasn't 2666, and despite being 2 sticks running in single channel anyway? 
fleet canopy
Now it does about 300 FPS, but the reason you’re seeing 144 fps is because I set it to that because that’s the max you’ll see
Guy put it in wrong, if you see it again later, he has it right next shot
vapid crypt
That's cause when it tried to post it warned him probably
halcyon comet
So under that information the only solution would be to update my monitor to one that supports the g card framerate
vapid crypt
Not necessary to get a high refresh monitor, I'd say get a G-sync monitor... but those are too expensive to be worth it especially for a 950
And Freesync I'm pretty sure only works with the latest Nvidia cards
Only real solution is just to deal with v-sync until you decide to upgrade the card and monitor
fleet canopy
Yeah
halcyon comet
Honestly That information comforts me now I know what to do I will have to raise money to update my graphics card and maybe a new monitor
fleet canopy
You’ll more likely need more than just a GPU
halcyon comet
yeah, i have to change my entire specs
vapid crypt
The CPU is certainly quite old at this point too
vapid crypt
Its $180 now
vapid crypt
Nah it won't be delayed
fleet canopy
Oh? Hm
vapid crypt
Its worth it from an old i5 either way
halcyon comet
Im from Mexico so the peso is devalued, It only costs me a little more than that lmao XD
fleet canopy
In price
vapid crypt
Yeah I could only imagine what the prices are like
fleet canopy
But it’s like 100$, sales just make 2600 much better option
vapid crypt
I know a guy from Costa Rica, I think he paid about equal to $250ish USD for a 2700
halcyon comet
same
vapid crypt
Which at the time was going for like maybe $190 here
halcyon comet
thanks again diablo and you muppy
vapid crypt
Oh okay I'm Diablo now
halcyon comet
oh
fleet canopy
If you ever need help on putting together a computer part list, don’t hesitate to ask here
El Diablo
vapid crypt
I've gotten it before 
fleet canopy
Hah
halcyon comet
i mean thanks demonio*
fleet canopy
Demonic
halcyon comet
good night take care from corona
vapid crypt
Sure, just hope it isn't as widespread as it potentially could be
fleet canopy
I just hope it doesn’t stay in America because people are dumbasses
vapid crypt
Since for a lot of people symptoms might be super mild or even almost non-existent
fleet canopy
I swear being sick from a regular sickness is like “let’s stay home” and with coronavirus “I’m gonna just escape the hospital because fuck you”
sick reef
Mostly people just go to work sick because they can't afford not to, regardless.
Also that if you're only slightly sick, the praxis is to go any way, in a lot of areas of work.
abstract kite
My job, my upper management talked down and yelled at me because I missed a day I asked to be off 2 weeks in advance and approved by my supervisor.
rocky plinth
that's work in a nutshell :]
abstract kite
God forbid I get sick.
Or a family emergency comes through.
I don't even get vacation time. 
rocky plinth
Yes and don't even think about missing a day due to corona
WORK YOU ASS OFF LIKE THE SLAVE YOU ARE
sick reef
Kind of weird that they would do that, but I guess your supervisor wasn't enough to ask. Not the most uncommon, though, I would guess, depending on job.
I used to tell my boss, and my supervisor, as I work at a small company, but my boss got angry that I did, so I never do it anymore.
brisk badger
nice job 👍
vapid crypt
The fuck?
urban gulch
XD
fleet lark
quiet pulsar
I hope so
fleet canopy
Yeah it is
abstract kite
Just seems to be GTFO
vapid crypt
Maybe its a bug with the game?
abstract kite
jovial steeple
are your drivers up to date?
jovial steeple
have you restarted the game and or the pc?
have you repaired the installation in steam?
abstract kite
fleet canopy
The TV looks like it's giving such a shit look though
abstract kite
That is just the camera
fleet canopy
Probably just picture of pixels, but I wouldn't be so sure
abstract kite
But the streaks were there while dropping and through the mission*
jovial steeple
Could it be an intended effect by the devs? Haven't played in a while so I don't know what it looks like anymore...
They do have this kind of distorsion filter, right?
vapid crypt
I'ma launch and see if I see anything like that
void perch
That's not an intended game effect
vapid crypt
What level are you on?
jovial steeple
have you repaired the installation within steam?
vapid crypt
No issues here
fleet canopy
Pi hole
tardy tinsel
That's a nice name
late sorrel
it’s gunna monch on the things tracking you
yea
it’s a black hole for advertisements
tardy tinsel
You mean a adblocker
eternal cairn
That shit is great until it starts blocking Google links.
I love it for blocking Hulu ads on the smart TV though.
clear quartz
sounds like a vpn with extra steps
raw copper
Hey
sick reef
Works when you get to be your own DNS server, but also assumes you have taken the proper steps against HTML/HTTP exploits, as well as other possible router exploits, yourself, as to not make yourself easier of an target.
sick reef
Like how if you send all unauthorized errors a 403, it'll be quite easy to find what won't work as an exploit, making something like a spider swiftly run through all possible angles.
abstract kite
So I validated my files and the problem persists Sometimes not all levels are like what I was seeing in B1
brisk badger
PI Hole is a DNS resolver (or a DNS upstream server) but not a DNS server
brisk badger
a router does something different. pi hole is just working with DNS request. Usually in Pi Hole itself you define what DNS resolver you want to use (e.g google's 8.8.8.8 or 9.9.9.9) and then pi hole does further checks with rules you defined
sick reef
I don't know a lot of this stuff, but I do know some.
brisk badger
a dns server contains "zone files" which are used for domains. You define there to what IP example.com should go to
sick reef
A resolver wouldn't route, it would just resolve IP's.
But a server would give IP's, or does a resolver do that too?
brisk badger
routing is ability to route IP packets through the internet. A switch for example cannot route
routers do route and NAT. NAT is the ability to decide which of your devices should receive the information (because from the outside of the network we only have one public IP, no internal ones). E.g if you have two phones in the network and you surf with one. The other side (website) doesn't know to which device exactly send it back, so it sends to the router and the router knows exactly to what device it should send to.
you can say pihole is a dns server but it does not meet all requirements for a dns server. DNS server are to be used if you own a domain
sick reef
Would so be it only interprets internal communication whereas a DNS server would also call on external requests? Or something akin that that.
brisk badger
A DNS server can be configured to only listen to internal request but it can also be used the same time for external access.
Let's assume this: I own the domain example.com . You type this into your browser. Now the lookup begins where you ask your local DNS resolver about where do we need to go in order to find out what IP is associated to example.com. The resolver then finds the DNS server with all it's information and is able to browse the site (happens of course in milliseconds)
every published domain needs to have 2 DNS server that serve this information publicly
it's quite a big topic; DNS and a very very insecure protocol. Currently there is a big movement making this secure
DNS are often used for DDOS attacks where the attacker sends little information to the DNS, spoofs the IP and then the answer is a big packet which is sent to the victim
sick reef
A resolver would only handle IP resolving, where a DNS server would beyond that also handle the information relevant to the IP that gets resolved kind of?
Yeah. I've heard of such, I think it was like Botnets that ping command with high package sizes. Which is why a well setup DNS by default denies Pings.
Or should rather, due to the liability.
brisk badger
the more i google the more abbreviation of words are used
sick reef
Yeah. It is one of the things that makes IP handling difficult to understand.
brisk badger
the dns server (authoritative server) is basically used if you own a domain, so if people access the domain, they get the information what IP is associated to that domain
and the resolver is able to "cache" the infromation or look it up if it doesn't know the domain
babyphones were 'hacked' and a DNS amplification attack was used to DDOS the victim
the sad thing; this attack is only possible if you enhance security on your DNS server (by enabling DANE or DNSSEC) because then requests are encrypted and that's why the victim gets a bigger response than the attacker initially sends (in this big packets everything is encrypted, extra information of public keys are sent etc.) If the DNS server would not be "secure", an amplification attack is not possible
sick reef
I assume it's based of the premise that the microchip of the items are weakly secured, as well as that they are often connected to the internet in some way, and all chips still have the ability for basic commands, and through that, they can be exploited.
It is very interesting. And shows how little defence we really do have against things
brisk badger
it's not the hardware that is not secure but the DNS protocol that was created with no security in mind
sick reef
From what I've seen, it's even the same with drones.
Easily cut off, then they can be hijacked, sometimes even without the owner knowing.
brisk badger
DNSSEC and DANE are made to make DNS request encrypted but it has it's own downsides (like allowing these types of attack from above)
crisp sage
How much would you guys think selling both a 1060 6gb and a ryzen 5 1600 (with cooler) should be sold for?
fleet canopy
Depends how much you used it
New would go for 200$
130$ for it can be pretty nice
Or 150$
Seeing that the 1600 list price is uhh
200$
Could be wrong
Yeah ok soo I guess like 70-80$
I'm not seeing any go above 100$, and there were some priced at 80$ ish
vapid crypt
The 1600AF is going for 85 new as it is, that's basically the 1600 on the 12nm process; effectively a lower binned 2600
merry bay
The biggest decider are your local prices to be honest.
fleet canopy
Yeah
merry bay
Look for similar listings, and stick close
vapid crypt
So a used one would make sense to be lower than that, and when it comes to a used 1060... considering used RX 580s are going for sub $100. Look at your local listings that is a good idea
fleet canopy
Unless only if the item has not been used a lot
Then you stick to near listed price
Like 200$
You price it 160-180$
Even if it goes for 80$
vapid crypt
I suppose that's one way of doing it if you want to maximize profit
abstract kite
Get a 4k Monitor too.
abstract kite
Shhh
vapid crypt
Usually highest settings turn on some kind of AA
fleet canopy
Yeah
But I doubt I could even buy a TV for myself
Because like
Where the fuck am I gonna put it?
Can't be right in front of me lol
abstract kite
Do what I did
fleet canopy
Wall?
abstract kite
Mhm
abstract kite
All you need to do is find the studs in the wall.
fleet canopy
Hah
abstract kite
I still want that H1 Case.
All I need is a Micro ATX MOBO and gut my system for parts.
Would you try Water Cooling that case?
Or leave it as a blower.
vapid crypt
Leave the card with its blower you mean?
abstract kite
Yes?
fleet canopy
Hm
Depending how your cooling needs be
If it's obvious leaving it will be ass
Then asdf do alternative
abstract kite
Asdf?
fleet canopy
Just a dasddaj thing
abstract kite
fleet canopy
:)
vapid crypt
It doesn't matter all that much, should only consider putting a block on it if you're willing to pay for it and go all out with performance
abstract kite
I'm just worried about thermals, not overclocking my system.
vapid crypt
As long as the memory on the card isn't running super hot (100c+) Eh Asus
Yeah it should be fine
There's that washer mod you can do if you really are concerned with its thermals though
abstract kite
But AMD says the 5700XT is Expected to reach 110c and be fine!
vapid crypt
It improves its mounting pressure, thereby improving overall contact with the cooler and making the temps better
abstract kite
Yep
When I get that Case, I'll do that.
Also replace the thermal pads just beyond the back plate.
vapid crypt
You can replace the thermal pad they use for the chip with thermal paste too
abstract kite
The CPU?
vapid crypt
No the GPU
The reference 5700xt uses a thick thermal pad for longevity instead of regular paste
abstract kite
So paste would be better for thermals you say?
vapid crypt
It should be yeah, coupled with the washer mod
abstract kite
Would it be just like the paste you put on the CPU?
vapid crypt
Yeah
abstract kite
I think I should look for that High Quality stuff if that's the case.
vapid crypt
Some Artic Mx4 or whatever, don't use liquid metal I recently heard that stuff degrades the solder on the board
abstract kite
That makes sense.
elder current
Anyone know of a reliable battery charger app? (For android), ive just bought a couple of new cables and id like to compare it with my current.
fleet canopy
sick reef
It's not about the cable, it's about the transformer 
final scaffold
Guys, I'm getting some pretty hardcore fps drops in the last wave in C2, I wanna know this is a common problem? I thought that wouldn't be an issue with the gear I have so I'm wondering if there is anything I can do. I'm running the game on a gaming laptop with a GTX 1070 8GB, 16GB of RAM and a 7th gen i7. I left this in technical support too just in case.
fleet canopy
Uh
Well the alpha has been known to just be 45FPS constant
Or just not be hitting the expected FPS
But I imagine it's more optimized
So check the CPU cull in settings
final scaffold
Usually I get a steady 60 fps, but midway through C2 and the few last waves I get random drops to like 15 fps a lot of times
fleet canopy
Huh
final scaffold
what should I set in the CPU cull thing
fleet canopy
Medium
final scaffold
oh damn it's already in medium
fleet canopy
From what I believe it is, is that it might be due to the massive amounts of enemies?
But it shouldn't be like that
vapid crypt
I've had similar drops in that wave too
final scaffold
i thought about that but i also believed that wouldn't be a problem with the stuff I have, I used to see people with worse gear not handle that
fleet canopy
Surprising
final scaffold
oh
vapid crypt
Granted not a laptop
I have an RX 580 and an R5 2600
Typically my framerates are like 85ish or so, but when stuff starts spawning it dips
late sorrel
I have abouve but a 570, i usually get somewhere near 50-60
final scaffold
i locked on 60 so usually it always sticks there. but recently this has been happening
I guess it's the big room and all the enemies but I wonder if that should be happening
vapid crypt
Eh it seems like a typical thing with the game as it is now
final scaffold
ok, I guess I'll wait for some optimizing, but if you guys think about any possible fixes or motives for this feel free to @ me. Thanks for the help everyone.
fresh kraken
I don't know any fixes for that issue, but I don't get any FPS issues on C2, only a very rare few times on D1 during an alarm door
and also on C1 I believe
I think sudden FPS drops could be considered bugs though, as long as it isn't your hardware causing the drops, so you could use the #bug-reporting channel to see how to submit a bug report about that
fleet canopy
Might be from various parts
river iron
What does cpu cull do?
drifting rock
@river iron It sets the amount of frames the CPU can calculate before sending them to the GPU
The higher the amount, the higher the input lag
Setting it to 0 can drastically reduce your FPS though
river iron
I have a beafy pc, what's the best setting for me?
3900x and an rtx2070
Ah 0, roight
drifting rock
@river iron As I said, 0 can drastically reduce your FPS, don't put it at 0
The default setting, 2, is fine
fleet canopy
Hah
stiff rock
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NqMrwh how does this look? i've got no idea if such thing could work 
(mostly worried on the Cooler + motherboard, not too sure on those parts, expecially considering that i had the idea to overclock)
plus the power might be overkill on 850w, was thinking of getting it to 750w
abstract kite
merry bay
Power delivery on that motherboard is sub-par. Wouldn't be comfortable slapping a 9900K for longevity.
stiff rock
oh yep, i've got a lot to wait.. most stores are closed in italy atm
was just trying to set a baseline for whenever they open again, to see what the guy could suggest me
abstract kite
Global Economy is at a stand still too.
I would also upgrade to 32 - 64 GB of Memory too.
stiff rock
if you mean about the ram, it's for gaming (only reason why i didn't go past 32gb of ram)
which is already.. quite a lot
from what i know at least
abstract kite
Fair enough
fleet canopy
Hm
merry bay
16 is plenty for most people. 32 only makes sense if you multitask a lot and hoard tabs.
or work related
abstract kite
Like me.
stiff rock
yea, given adding another 16gb of ram isn't too much of a big deal, i just went for it. For the most part, it's only the motherboard and the cooling that i'm not sure of. I've been trying to learn about motherboards, they are quite confusing doh tbh (for me at least)
Most of the guides i've found explained how to understand if your CPU can fit in, GPU ecc
didn't really see specs or anything of that nature. From what i've got, it just needs to fit what you have
which sounded odd to me, i'm pretty sure there's more than that
fleet canopy
Yeah motherboards are kind of wack for me to figure out as well
fleet canopy
Nice
fleet canopy
Yes I know
abstract kite
Okay..
marsh sequoia
abstract kite
weird misinformation about HDMI cable limitaitons in here, hdmi 2.0/2.1 is fully capable of 120hz, 240hz, even 8k.
marsh sequoia
Hdmi can do 120 dodnt know it can do 240. Are you sure? I though display port was only thing that can do 240 hertz
sick reef
2.0 can do 1440p120 but I'm unsure if it can do 1440p144. But it's all about bitrate to bit output
late sorrel
Seriously looking forward to DisplayPort 2.0 though
it’s like double of the latest DP/HDMI 2.1 standards
like 88 gbps?
or something close t
iirc something like 16k @ 60hz
sick reef
Not really something I'd look forward to myself, but if possible, then impressive.
abstract kite
™️
sweet phoenix
marsh sequoia
My bad on sending lfg here. Just noticed, I deleted.
brisk badger
GalerÛwÛsYesterday at 4:39 PM
Not really
70% memory allocation is :Yikesrly:
@abstract kite , I am sorry but I have to nitpick
In your example you have a 70% memory usage. Do you know why? Count the apps and services that are open your taskmanager and you will probably find out that they are not allocating 70% of the memory. Very often OS' do allocate more RAM than what's needed and you can see higher RAM usage than you should have. This is totally fine and to be expected. I see programs that allocate like 6GB RAM without doing anything with it. Incase of RAM shortage the OS will automatically free up the needed space.
Generally speaking about whether 16GB is enough or not: Generally it's good to always have more RAM than needed but the jump from 16 to 32GB is for many unnecessary and there is no real benefit unless you know of programs that are really can take use of it, or if you like to work with RAMDISKs.
Also what many, especially overclockers do not keep in mind; more ram means the CPU has to work harder. This is crucial when it comes to (extreme) overclocking and you usually reach more frequency the less RAM there is obviously. Just something to keep in mind.
To conclude: I am pretty you are a guy that is totally fine having 16GB of RAM
abstract kite
I don't have Nitro anymore, so I don't have the utility to make a snarky quip.
brisk badger
it's okay, there is much better investments than discord nitro
brisk badger
rather choose more ram than discord nitro, yes 🙂
abstract kite
It was really fun though, the discord Nitro.
But with uncertain financial times, it had to stop.
fleet canopy
Hue hue hue
abstract kite
Global Emotes?
abstract kite
Idk what Global Emotes are lol
fleet canopy
Still a valid way https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7aPBgHfw2A
sick reef
Nitro helped me download more RAM
But every now and then when I download RAM it doesn't actually give me more of it, it just gives me this girl with red hair. I dunno
drifting rock
Interesting
simple coral
yall how do I leave voice chat on pc
vapid crypt
The disconnect button is above the gear and deafen icons when you're in a voice channel
solemn orchid
@marsh sequoia I love your setup, but a way to make it instantly better is monitor risers
being able to keep shit under and on them is a huge step towards organization, and they can help with cable management too
marsh sequoia
@solemn orchid Never thought of doing that really. You piqued my interest.
solemn orchid
it helped my desk a lot
steady solar
Oooooqkjqu2u1hh
drifting rock
Is that cheese language?
The distress call a cheese make when they're being eaten?
jade ermine
New monitor should arrive today hype
drifting rock
silver needle
Thanks.
calm garden
i'm gonna need glasses for my glasses if i wanna read that
vapid crypt
CPU: 8x Zen 2 Cores at 3.8GHz (3.6GHz with SMT) 7nm
GPU: 12 TFLOPs, 52 CUs at 1.825GHz, Custom RDNA 2
Memory: 16GB GDDR6
Storage: 1TB custom NVMe SSD
Optical drive: 4K UHD Blu-ray
120 fps support
Potential 8K resolutions
Ray-tracing technology
Variable Rate Shading for more stable frame rates
Compatible with Xbox One accessories
Easier to read text form more or less
abstract kite
I wonder if Corvid is increasing the cost of PC parts
vapid crypt
Certainly can considering Samsung bases its manufacturing out of S. Korea
And they lead in making memory, be it RAM or for GPUs
As well as SSDs
AMD gets their Silicon from Taiwan, which last I checked they've done okay regarding the pandemic
rocky plinth
graphic cards to become apocalypse currency
vapid crypt
Nah that's Toilet Paper
fleet canopy
And hand sanitizers
vapid crypt
I'll trade you 30 sheets for a quarter ounce.
merry bay
Fabled triple layer
fleet canopy
I'll trade you a really good double layered roll for a 2080 Ti and 3990X
vapid crypt
When a 2080ti is worth a single roll of toilet paper
fleet canopy
When it's double layered and it's the actually good kind, instead of the shitty ones
You'll not see those
knotty haven
Y e s m u p p y
raw copper
can someone make me a pcpartpicker PC as cheap as possible to be able to play GTFO?
raw copper
thx mate
late sorrel
You could save money by losing the ssd & Going for a 570 if you need to
fleet canopy
Isn't that kind of cutting it with using a 450W on a PC that'll use around 400W?
late sorrel
yeah you need to lose the ssd
get a cooler master evo & up the psu
I would recommend this
- cooling is important
-3600 > 2600x
-better ram speed
made mistake, ram speed is now 3600 over 3200
abstract kite
(Would go with Tinted's Build, personally)
fleet canopy
How's this? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fM4bV7
CPU because he really doesn't need to pay for a 3600, unless a sale actually gets it done really well
With the remaining to the 700$ budget everyone seems to go with, you can get an EVGA 1660 Super instead
It'll be 730$,
But 30$ is 30$
You could as well upgrade to Ryzen 3600 and MSI B450M PRO-M2 MAX, but then no space in budget for RAM
Here's with 1660 Super https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3NsGdm
fleet canopy
crisp sage
Is the ryzen 7 3700x worth the extra price in comparison to the r7 2700x?
broken smelt
Yes.
dense wasp
I would also say so,
winter mauve
What
fleet canopy
Yeah, a big difference @crisp sage
jade ermine
The monitor i was talking about earlier arrived today! 3440x1440p, 144hz IPS goodness
solemn orchid
it's so PRETTY
fleet canopy
Lovely
jade ermine
Gotta say that after curved one this looks weird
I get optical illusion that this is convex lol
fleet canopy
Haha
dense wasp
Nice, which model is it?
tardy tinsel
What's the inch size for both of the screens?
jade ermine
upper one 24, bottom one 34
tardy tinsel
I currently only have one monitor that's 24, I've been thinking about getting a second one later on
solemn orchid
@dense wasp I DMed you
void perch
The monitor i was talking about earlier arrived today! 3440x1440p, 144hz IPS goodness:gachiGASM:
@jade ermine love the wallpaper!
vapid crypt
Is the case designed for either or?
tardy tinsel
I usually make them stand because most of them have the motherboard on the right side wall
fleet canopy
It depends on the case
vapid crypt
If you're having cooling issues, may I ask when's the last time you went in there and cleaned it of dust
abstract kite
Also if you are liquid cooling it could hurt thermal performance on its side.
fleet canopy
Then keep your cat off
abstract kite
Cats produce fur that can clog your system's ventilation. I would recommend removing your cats from going near it.
merry bay
Business as usual, monitor temps. When they're higher than expected clean dust/hair. If that doesn't do the trick, re-apply paste.
Try to prevent it all you want, animal hair will get everywhere anyway.
shadow linden
expedition survived but we all deceased lol
dense wasp
woho!
kindred fiber
Which one should i buy : Ryzen 5 3600 vs Ryzen 5 3600x
Purpose: Gaming + Streaming.
vapid crypt
There shouldn't be a significant difference, they're both 6 cores
exotic rampart
Mostly TDP / Watts usage
fleet canopy
If you can grab a 3600X for close to 3600 price, neat deal
abstract kite
sooo wassup with cpu and gpu releases being delayed due to the name we shall not name
abstract kite
AYYmd LMAO
well both
kinda triggering my ocd a bit
planned to get the ryzen 4000 when it gets released
and 3080ti
fleet canopy
Ah, yes
late sorrel
lovely
fleet canopy
What CAS @abstract kite
abstract kite
im scared the ram will bottleneck the upcoming ryzen
fleet canopy
If it's not 16, not acceptable
fleet canopy
2x16GB 3600Mhz with CAS 16 :)
fleet canopy
Give link
abstract kite
fleet canopy
2x16GB, 3600MHz, CAS16, perfect
You can overclock it, but I don't really think you need a reason to
abstract kite
4000mhz oc
fleet canopy
If you can do that, cool I guess lmao
vapid crypt
Would have to be samsung memory
fleet canopy
Nah I doubt anything would use the power of DDR5 yet, because you'd need to wait for motherboards that actually support DDR5
So just stick to what you picked
abstract kite
alright
vapid crypt
DDR5 we might not see until 2022
abstract kite
ok guess im going ddr4 xd
vapid crypt
Especially now with all these delays
abstract kite
true it triggers me
fleet canopy
Very nice
abstract kite
usually idles 27c
dense wasp
boom
abstract kite
on like low clock
dense wasp
5+ club
abstract kite
^^
abstract kite
XDDDDD
fleet canopy
He has a 9900K if I remember right
abstract kite
nyoo
fleet canopy
Nyoo?
abstract kite
ye 9900k
vapid crypt
Say's you're getting 3.8ish
abstract kite
i said nyo that i cant post gif
avg is 5 guys cmon
be happy what u have
jk time to get 7
anyone know a legal supplies of LNO2
abstract kite
yeet
jade ermine
XMP magic trick right there
late sorrel
yee :)
vapid crypt
This was my most recent benchmark on there https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/23574983
jade ermine
crisp sage
I wish :(
Is GTFO a CPU intensive game or GPU, just curious as I bought a new cpu
What Noctua model anyways?
dense wasp
nhl12
urban gulch
@crisp sage GPU, although you can higher the CPU Workload 🙂
crisp sage
Oh alright, Yeah, my build (1060 6gb and ryzen 5 1600) struggles to hold 60 when hoards are coming. hopefully a r7 3700x should help a bitt
crisp sage
Anddddd I mighta just botted, (hopefully not), does the B350f mobo support the 3000 series of ryzen?
brisk badger
@urban gulch what voltages for 5600MHz?
urban gulch
Dunno
brisk badger
I also would say GTFO is more CPU demanding due to it not being much multithreaded
Wait, isn't overclocking about finding the highest frequency at an acceptable voltage?
urban gulch
._.
brisk badger
So, you just type in the multiplicator and the mainboard does the rest?
brisk badger
many mainboard can do that. It's a very stupid setting
urban gulch
aight buddy ^^
brisk badger
Overclocking is all about voltages, not frequencies. Mainboard cannot sense how good your CPU is so they just add a ton of voltage to guarantee a secure operaiton. A side effect is electro migration with voltages too high
5600MHz sounds ambitious, so either you are very clever accomplishing this milestones or you are crazy
urban gulch
Most likely both
brisk badger
I suggest checking every voltage there is, not only CPU core voltage. This high frequency will very likely damage the CPU or more likely the IMC in short time. The damage is a slow death, called electro migration
assuming voltages are on auto. if you make manual and they are okay, you are probably a crazy genius
jade ermine
8 cores at 5.6Ghz
phase change cpu cooler or bs
spare kelp
vapid crypt
I'm willing to guess the A320 mobo is limiting the clockspeed on the cpu
Not that its a huge deal, but yeah its noticeable
solemn orchid
lime tartan
solemn orchid
I've kinda embraced I'm just gonna have painting shit all over my desk
because I have nowhere else to put it
lime tartan
try putting some kind of.paper to not paint over thinfs cutie uwu
solemn orchid
oh yeah, I just throw down a piece of copy paper
that works for me as a pallette too lol
fleet canopy
Lovely
solemn orchid
thanks! ^^
jade ermine
@fleet canopy Userbenchmark does not look good
crisp sage
I hate my arm stand lmao, my second monitor is too big to be angled towards me without the side being cut off
abstract kite
I'll have my second monitor mounted vertically
so I have a better view of discord and my VMs
lol
fleet canopy
Kek
abstract kite
kek
fleet canopy
Kek
abstract kite
Kek
tardy tinsel
Kek
fleet canopy
Kek
winter mauve
No
clear quartz
kek
winter mauve
No
abstract kite
kek
winter mauve
No
abstract kite
kek
winter mauve
No
clear quartz
No No
jade ermine
kek
sullen berry
tardy tinsel
kek
abstract kite
Kek
abstract kite
kek
fresh kraken
I think that's enough spam lmfao
fleet canopy
No idea
vapid crypt
Nothing we don't already know, Nvidia cancelled talking about whatever they were gonna talk about this month
jade ermine
we were supposed to get some insight about those at GTC end of this month but that shit got cancelled due corona
soooo no clue for now
dense wasp
The new lg ultra wides look sweet
fleet canopy
Nano IPS?
dense wasp
Sounds cool at least!?
vapid crypt
Its how they're able to get fast response times with high refresh I suppose
fleet canopy
Hm
dense wasp
I mean, on paper is sounds fantastic.
IPs with 1ms and 144hz+ refresh rate 🤷🏻♂️
vapid crypt
Outside of the typical TN panel of course, but yeah cause its IPS
dense wasp
fleet canopy
The 27" releasing in July, hm
dense wasp
but idunno,
I need a GREAT monitor
but everyone of the bigger ones just seem so .. i don't know
flawed
is it to much to ask for to want the perfect monitor?
fleet canopy
I mean, maybe
But like one day, there's gonna be a monitor that'll have your needs, which I assume is to be wide, big, can do 144Hz, look sharp as hell...
And not look flawed
sick reef
"On paper" rarely means much amongst screens
crisp sage
Don't curved screens like ruin the perspective when editing and photoshoppin' and stuff? thats from what I've heard
wheat magnet
Thank ya
abstract kite
You know, it looks like Muppy told someone they have bad taste in music and at'd a Moderator to get that trash out of there. XD
tardy tinsel
^
winter mauve
Lul
abstract kite
So question for you folk. My dads PC is legit locking up on him. I suspect he is having to many things no it up at once and is bogging down his system. The Operating System is on a HDD with 2TB, but with 750 GB now. Anywho, I tried opening Task Manager, but there were no words at all like it hasn't even loaded.
System Specs:
MOBO: B450 Tomahawk MAX
CPU: Ryzen 7 2700x
GPU: 2070ti
PSU: 750w Corsair
16 GB of DDR4 (x2 8 Sticks)
Storage: 2 TB HDD, 1 TB HDD, x2 1 TB External HDD
fleet canopy
The 2070 Ti, hm
Is the RAM installed correctly? @abstract kite
Maybe the drives could be a bit loose in cable connection
abstract kite
2070 Super
winter mauve
Remove the ram
abstract kite
RAM is installed in slots 2 and 4
fleet canopy
Hm
winter mauve
And blow on it
fleet canopy
Hm
winter mauve
Maybe the dust is getting in the way
old patrol
🥒
fleet canopy
Wild
abstract kite
Hm
fleet canopy
Might be it I guess?
crisp sage
Why your dad gotta better build then me
waxen orchid
Could try defragging your hard drive and disabling any extra automated processes that are utilizing disk usage or ram
dense wasp
Gal, any pointers on when it’s locking up?
brisk badger
@abstract kite Windows Event Viewer. It's the go to place for finding out why your PC is crashing, locking etc. (Check under the category system, then software, check for critical first, then error)
It's also good to do a full check of your RAM to make sure no address is corrupt. Memtest is a great tool. If you cannot or don't want to make a bootable drive, use memtestx86. Run multiple instances since one can only handle 2GB. It's advised to not do this is windows since windows will allocate RAM for itself and it can become difficult to catch faulty RAM
It could be a RAM because if you have faulty RAM there won't be any bluescreen. But usually faulty RAM starts with apps telling you "Memory Access Violation" or "Memory Read Failure" and similar and the app will just hang
abstract kite
@dense wasp its sometimes when the computer is on desktop
Well when fresh boot up occurs
abstract kite
is this pretty decent for full load around 76-77c
for 9900k
Temp wise it is not bad, imo. But getting a bit tosty. I assume you are using a blower style heatsink.
kraken x52
Do they make blower heatsinks for CPUs?
What have I been missing out on?
idk what blower heatsink is
U have blower style GPUs
I guess Galerus knows more than I do
a little secret
of blower style cpus
but yeh... i dont, i have kraken x52
im assuming i didnt properly put paste n shit
xd
I’m being sarcastic because theyve blocked me
whai
ur a cutie
There actually is no such thing as a blower cpu cooler
Idk why they block