#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk | GTFO | Page 83

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 2:30 PM

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GR?

steady solar Mar 2, 2020, 2:30 PM

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GRRRRR

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 2:31 PM

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No u

steady solar Mar 2, 2020, 2:31 PM

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Tiny tiny

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 2:31 PM

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Now you are getting to personal >.>

steady solar Mar 2, 2020, 2:31 PM

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😛

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 2:43 PM

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you have any LED error code on the mainboard?
"boot drivers" I don't know what that means but I can tell you that drivers are loaded when windows is booting and if you have issues getting a picture on your monitor while starting your PC I think you have issues with the bios / whatever happens before Windows boots. Unless the screen goes of when entering the Windows boot logo

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 2:44 PM

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Well when...

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Hold on let me get his name

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When @ornate ginkgo fixed my computer the first time he went into my I guess video drivers and deleted and reinstalled them and easy fix.

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 2:46 PM

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Yes but even with broken video drivers you can get into the bios. the bios doesn't need a video driver

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 2:47 PM

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So you want me to flash my Bios?

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 2:47 PM

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drivers are made for the windows OS, so the OS can communicate with the hardware properly

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no, check for an error code if you have any on your mainboard

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 2:47 PM

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How?

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 2:48 PM

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some small LED 'screen' on the mainboard? Many usually have them

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https://i.ytimg.com/vi/QPbjAWJiaRE/maxresdefault.jpg

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something like this

merry bay Mar 2, 2020, 2:48 PM

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that's a fairly high end feature usually

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even led indicators with labels are semi-rare

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 2:49 PM

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really? All my mid range asus boards have them

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i thought it is common today

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 2:49 PM

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I don't think my B450 Tomahawk has that...

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😅

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 2:50 PM

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Then get a PCI debugger card. They are great and cheap

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https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/kSYooPbQdI_Xh5bsNMc5ZATqW00sLig4uzegRjqHe7Zbt1-6czL56O08Vx2Oo_6CsjIkVYdtn8ieTuLTieYq53cfb4lfah3wiIevozNCOh63G4TJhieo
They look something like this

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I dunno else. Try with as few used ports as possible. Reseat RAM, make sure mounting pressure of CPU is fine (mostly is but I seen stuff). Check if the fans spin different

merry bay Mar 2, 2020, 2:51 PM

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That's actually something I would've loved to have on many occasions. Thanks for the idea

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 2:53 PM

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/2-4-Digit-3-in1-PCI-E-PC-Analyzer-Analysis-Diagnostic-USB-Card-POST-Card-TOP/253167600778?hash=item3af1f7048a:m:mlZTh88e1KWALKv9YpEBCwQ
(not affiliated to the seller) some cheaper debugger cards

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costs like 2 usd with shipping. I would say it's almost mandatory for pc enthusiast, or if you work with different mobos

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 2:53 PM

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Let me unplug all my USBs and try to boot up my PC

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 2:53 PM

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but really LED error codes on mobos are not a thing today?

merry bay Mar 2, 2020, 2:56 PM

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The three of my friends I helped troubleshoot had none. Their builds spanned over the past 1.5 years.

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mid range builds

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only help was the speaker

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i'm sure it's only getting more common nowadays to include troubleshooting LED's at least

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 3:02 PM

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So

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I unplugged all my USBs and the PC booted right up with no problem.

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I also made sure to reseat my Display Ports and Power Supply Plug.

steady solar Mar 2, 2020, 3:04 PM

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So it worked @abstract kite

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 3:04 PM

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Only on 1 test

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I'm not convinced.

merry bay Mar 2, 2020, 3:04 PM

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I think I recall talking about setting boot priority for USB a week or two ago. Could it be a leftover setting trying to do that? It barely makes sense, but doublecheck your boot priority in BIOS to be your OS drive

steady solar Mar 2, 2020, 3:04 PM

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You should be

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How would I know 😎

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 3:05 PM

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Idk

steady solar Mar 2, 2020, 3:05 PM

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Hapcher is just defective shit

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Find out what it is that won't let you boot

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Probs keyboard

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If it was prioritising usb it'll still boot to bios

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Galerus it shows a number on screen when can't boot right?

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Like 99 probs

merry bay Mar 2, 2020, 3:06 PM

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it might just be stuck on "press any key to boot from USB" and not continuing for some strange reason

steady solar Mar 2, 2020, 3:06 PM

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It's not

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It's just defective prehiperahls

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 3:06 PM

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Tbf I never even flashed by BIOS once on this PC.

merry bay Mar 2, 2020, 3:06 PM

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Or it could be trying to boot from a USB that doesn't have media

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But it should post okay in that case

steady solar Mar 2, 2020, 3:07 PM

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But it'll go to bios boot options if that the case

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Anyway

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 3:07 PM

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So attempt to flash Bios?

steady solar Mar 2, 2020, 3:07 PM

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It's one of your peripherals

merry bay Mar 2, 2020, 3:08 PM

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no? Didn't you say you can boot fine after disconnecting things a moment ago?

steady solar Mar 2, 2020, 3:08 PM

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What keyboard does you has

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 3:08 PM

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Cyberpower.

steady solar Mar 2, 2020, 3:08 PM

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Mouse?

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 3:08 PM

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Idk the exact model.

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Cyberpower.

steady solar Mar 2, 2020, 3:08 PM

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Ok uh

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Just put it all in except keyboard and try to reboot

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 3:11 PM

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Plugged in my headset and my Mouse

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Lets see...

steady solar Mar 2, 2020, 3:11 PM

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Seeing

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 3:12 PM

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It booted albeit a bit skower

steady solar Mar 2, 2020, 3:12 PM

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But all good?

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 3:12 PM

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Yep

steady solar Mar 2, 2020, 3:12 PM

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Alright so keyboard is defective

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 3:13 PM

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Hmm

steady solar Mar 2, 2020, 3:13 PM

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You can plug it in

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And use it fine

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It just won't boot when it's plugged in

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Inconvenient unpluggin and plug in

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Or u can get new

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Or see what they say

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 3:14 PM

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A keyboard is stopping my Displays from going on?

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4594_ThinkingSun

steady solar Mar 2, 2020, 3:14 PM

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Stopping you from booting

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Perhaps something to do with onboard memory

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I never fixed that problem

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But it comes up alot

merry bay Mar 2, 2020, 3:15 PM

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I would still check the boot priority and put USB in the bottom of the list. If that doesn't help, look through BIOS versions, likely fixed with updates.

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It really does sound like it's trying to boot from your keyboard or something along those lines.

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 3:16 PM

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That would be funny

steady solar Mar 2, 2020, 3:16 PM

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Well decide what to do galerus

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But that problem was a pain to figure out

merry bay Mar 2, 2020, 3:16 PM

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After your booted plugging the keyboard back in should work fine.

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Just starting the pc is a pain

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 3:16 PM

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How do I set priority list without flashing BIOS?

steady solar Mar 2, 2020, 3:17 PM

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U can't get into bios that's the thing

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Unless u get another keyboardn

merry bay Mar 2, 2020, 3:17 PM

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UEFI should still have mouse support or another keyboard

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 3:17 PM

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Fuck. Kek

merry bay Mar 2, 2020, 3:17 PM

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You could use your mouse there, it's wonky but it should work

steady solar Mar 2, 2020, 3:18 PM

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What u press on mouse to get into bios

merry bay Mar 2, 2020, 3:18 PM

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True, overlooked that one

steady solar Mar 2, 2020, 3:18 PM

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Lmao

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New keyboard tbh

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But glad Ur shit ain't broken

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Just simple unplug 😎

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 3:19 PM

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Gonna need to wait till Thursday than.

merry bay Mar 2, 2020, 3:20 PM

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You could be that guy and ask your neighbors if they have any keyboards lying around for an hour or a couple LULW

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 3:20 PM

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kekw

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Yup figured as much.

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I restarted my PC one more time without my keyboard in and Displays failed to boot.

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@cheese#0458

steady solar Mar 2, 2020, 3:25 PM

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Is there a number in the corner @abstract kite

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 3:25 PM

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What corner?

merry bay Mar 2, 2020, 3:25 PM

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His mobo doesn't have a display

steady solar Mar 2, 2020, 3:25 PM

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I'm on 2% fuggg

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O

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 3:25 PM

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On a side note though

steady solar Mar 2, 2020, 3:25 PM

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Sometimes mobos show it on screen

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It'll most likey be 99

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 3:26 PM

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My Mouse and Headset are not glowing.

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So their off.

steady solar Mar 2, 2020, 3:26 PM

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Pc fans?

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 3:27 PM

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Everything inside the case such as fans, heatsink, MOBO and GPU are on.

steady solar Mar 2, 2020, 3:27 PM

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Alright

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Reboot again

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Maybe take out the mouse too

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On 2% so if I die just keep trying stuff

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But it is something with usb stuff

sick reef Mar 2, 2020, 3:29 PM

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FeelsPCHMan

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 3:29 PM

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Failed to boot

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So maybe my headset?

steady solar Mar 2, 2020, 3:30 PM

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Since it's been off and on alot

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It might need to rest for a bit

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 3:31 PM

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AwOo

steady solar Mar 2, 2020, 3:31 PM

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Give it 10mins if it's not booting

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That shit happens

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Igt I'm off 1%

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 3:48 PM

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Gdi

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Now its not wanting to boot displays at all

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I unplugged my Headsets this last boot and now its coming on

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My headsets were the last USB

sick reef Mar 2, 2020, 3:51 PM

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The part of the CPU lanes dedicated to your peripherals, USB, internal USB, SATA, U.2, and often M.2, is called PCH. When it isn't working properly, it shuts down all of itself.

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 3:55 PM

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Labcat in not exactly fluent in what you just said... Could you repeat that?

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Is what you are saying if say a USB Port is bad the CPU just says "Nope" and doesn't work for anything?

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 4:20 PM

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have you tried to use other ports for the keyboard? The contact on the keyboard look fine?

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it's funny. For over a year my PC also complains about a defunct USB device and wont boot (since I have a LED error code I am aware of it haha) and I simply press the reset button and it boot afterwards just fine xD One would assume it would load default BIOS settings but nope

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 4:23 PM

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I have not tried it

late sorrel Mar 2, 2020, 4:27 PM

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wait what's going on?

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 4:28 PM

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Whenever I boot up my PC with any USBs on it my Displays fail to boot up.

late sorrel Mar 2, 2020, 4:30 PM

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change your boot order

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and see if you have a forced push display

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 4:31 PM

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no what really would help in his case is to disable POST self checks

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 4:31 PM

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Dunno how or what that does

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Also how dare you assume my gender its 2020 come on now

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 4:31 PM

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if a monitor does not output video, the BIOS has failed the initial POST checks

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 4:32 PM

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So I should update my BIOS?

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 4:32 PM

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just find out what device is causing the issue

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use different plugs, make sure they are physically okay (no bent cables, contacts fine)

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idk how you always fall back to updating your bios

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let's say it like this; it's a mechanism of your computer because it has identified a peripheral device which does not meet the criteria to boot and therefor it blocks you from booting to probably prevent damage

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most likely the device is totally fine

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 4:33 PM

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Tbh I don't think the B450 Tomahawk was made for the Ryzen 3000 series straight from the box.

late sorrel Mar 2, 2020, 4:33 PM

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did you change the boot order though?

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 4:34 PM

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I have not

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 4:34 PM

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updating the bios is useful but I would first fix the other issue

late sorrel Mar 2, 2020, 4:34 PM

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make sure it's windows first

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then any usbs

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 4:34 PM

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So

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Windows > Displays > USBs?

late sorrel Mar 2, 2020, 4:35 PM

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no, in your bios

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 4:35 PM

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Ik

late sorrel Mar 2, 2020, 4:35 PM

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change the bios boot order

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 4:35 PM

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you said you can boot with no USB devices
you said you cannot boot with the keyboard plugged in
did you reorder your cables?

late sorrel Mar 2, 2020, 4:35 PM

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windows
usbs

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that's what it should be

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 4:35 PM

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with windows he means the harddisk windows is located on

late sorrel Mar 2, 2020, 4:36 PM

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^ yeah

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it should say windows though

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it does it on my tomahawk

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 4:36 PM

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he funnily cannot use the keyboard, at least from what I gathered by now when booting

late sorrel Mar 2, 2020, 4:37 PM

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lol what

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 4:37 PM

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I mean

late sorrel Mar 2, 2020, 4:37 PM

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just spam delete

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it should work

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 4:37 PM

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SOMETIMES it boots

late sorrel Mar 2, 2020, 4:37 PM

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just hit the power button and spam delete

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untill the bios shows up

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 4:38 PM

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I should do this now while you guys are here

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I can text through my phone...

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Or I can give my PC a break.

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 4:38 PM

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probably yea else we just run in circles

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 4:39 PM

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Alright

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Gonna flash BIOS

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 4:39 PM

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lol

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 4:40 PM

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And its on

late sorrel Mar 2, 2020, 4:41 PM

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why are you flashing the bios

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 4:42 PM

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You just said to change boot order in the BIOS

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📎 20200302_114113.jpg

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Top ones are System Status > Advanced > Overclocking > M-Flash > Security > Boot > Save & Exit

merry bay Mar 2, 2020, 4:44 PM

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What does Boot show?

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 4:44 PM

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With flashing, people usually mean to 'update' the version of the BIOS

late sorrel Mar 2, 2020, 4:45 PM

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oh

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yeah, head over to boot

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 4:46 PM

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also RTFM

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 4:46 PM

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📎 20200302_114548.jpg

late sorrel Mar 2, 2020, 4:46 PM

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go down to #7

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select it

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and then replace the top one

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I think, it's been a minute since I touched my bios

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 4:47 PM

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Can you check?

late sorrel Mar 2, 2020, 4:47 PM

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I'm not at home right now

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I mean, If you wanna wait 7 hours, sure

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but it's not too hard to do

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 4:48 PM

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I don't want to end up accidentally bricking my system.

merry bay Mar 2, 2020, 4:49 PM

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This is a very minor setting. There's no risk changing boot orders.

late sorrel Mar 2, 2020, 4:49 PM

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lol you won't

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 4:49 PM

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May I ask why he or she has to change the boot order if you could approach it differently and ask him or her whether he or she has another Boot Media (USB, CD etc.) connected

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 4:50 PM

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So change #7 to #1?

late sorrel Mar 2, 2020, 4:50 PM

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yeah

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just change that

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and wooza I just thought what if bios bad

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 4:50 PM

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I did

late sorrel Mar 2, 2020, 4:51 PM

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It seems like the bios isn't happy with the usb devices\

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 4:51 PM

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IMO it won't change anything. Why would the screen refuse to go on when galerus boots from the USB stick

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 4:51 PM

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📎 20200302_115120.jpg

late sorrel Mar 2, 2020, 4:51 PM

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Wait, they're booting from usb?

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 4:52 PM

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no, just as example

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changing boot order IMO has nothing to do with the issue

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The BIOS makes a POST checks where the PC fails, it won't boot

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 4:52 PM

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I thought it was..

late sorrel Mar 2, 2020, 4:52 PM

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oooh

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shit I missed the contexyt

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 4:53 PM

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well it's not bad, now that you are here you can change. just remember to change again if you need to boot from USB one day

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or cd

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 4:53 PM

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So should I leave the boot order like that or change it back?

late sorrel Mar 2, 2020, 4:53 PM

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I think leave it

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 4:53 PM

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keep, it doesn't make a difference. may slightly boot faster because it doesn't check the other sources

median moon Mar 2, 2020, 4:53 PM

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allow me to transform your post into a meme

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ahem

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print ("Hello World!")
what my parents think i'm doing:

📎 20200302_115120.jpg

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 4:55 PM

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4594_ThinkingSun

merry bay Mar 2, 2020, 4:55 PM

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Save the change imo. It would be an interesting case if it made a difference.

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 4:55 PM

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Lets see

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 4:56 PM

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also don't forget to test multiple times. as you mentioned earlier you said you sometimes can boot and sometimes not

late sorrel Mar 2, 2020, 4:56 PM

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my brain went 'oh lol the bios has fucked up the usb things'

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 4:56 PM

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usually a boot order issue is persistent, so with every reboot you have the issue

merry bay Mar 2, 2020, 4:57 PM

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From the looks of it. It tries to boot via USB without any media connected. Doesn't know how to handle failure and just borks itself. In theory if it fails or detects no media would just skip USB

late sorrel Mar 2, 2020, 4:57 PM

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that's what I assumed

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 4:57 PM

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POST (Power On Self-Test) checks (what happens before you get a signal) are much more 'fragile'

late sorrel Mar 2, 2020, 4:57 PM

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but that makes sense

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 4:57 PM

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and sometimes work and sometimes not

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so I bet, it's a POST issue

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 4:58 PM

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Hm

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 4:58 PM

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can be fixed with checking cables, ports and reassigning
or disable POST entirely in bios, not really recommended

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 4:58 PM

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So

merry bay Mar 2, 2020, 4:59 PM

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I recall a week of two ago telling Galerus to change boot priority to USB. Had no such issues before that, so it was an extra reason to suspect it actually matters.

late sorrel Mar 2, 2020, 4:59 PM

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ah

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 4:59 PM

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Every time I boot up the computer the Display acts like it wants to come on, but just doesn't and reverts to the "No Signal" screen.

late sorrel Mar 2, 2020, 5:00 PM

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you've checked drivers and shit right?

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 5:00 PM

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My GPU Drivers?

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 5:00 PM

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drivers are not loaded before windows

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I mean, idk why we run in circles, when you almost found out the issue yourself

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 5:01 PM

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...sorry?

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 5:01 PM

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you removed all USB cables and what happened?

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 5:01 PM

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Its not booting displays.

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 5:02 PM

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you said earlier without USB devices you can boot just fine

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 5:02 PM

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All USBs are not plugged in.

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Yeah and I also said I was skeptical that fixed the problem.

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So I booted again and it didn't work.

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 5:03 PM

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you booted again with no USB ports being used and it did not output any video signal

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 5:03 PM

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Yes.

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Like I am doing now.

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 5:03 PM

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ok that info was lacking, or I did not understand it

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you have a reset button on your case?

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 5:04 PM

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Yes

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 5:04 PM

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can you press it after it hangs

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just wondering if it will hang again or if it will allow you to boot

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maybe flashing your bios is really recommended. With flashing bios I mean updating the version of your bios

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 5:05 PM

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This is like what happened before when it hanged like this pressing the reset button twice typically works... Sometimes not.

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 5:06 PM

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so only video signal is connected when you tried booting? No USB, no other external cables attached.

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 5:07 PM

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I mean my Ethernet Cable

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 5:07 PM

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if you can really verify that nothing external is connected and the video cable is fine, then the issue lies somewhere in your bios. It's not your drivers, this is wrong because drivers are only needed to communicate with windows and windows boots after the bios is finished doing it's thing

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yea that's fine, I never seen an ethernet cable provoking this

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maybe flashing your BIOS helps as you said once that your mobo was not thought for your CPU or something along the lines

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most likely your mobo vendor allows you to update the bios from within windows, then just make sure there wont be any power loss during that time.
if you need to create a bootable device to flash the bios then that requires some more time and discipline so you dont screw up

Maybe people have other suggestions. I think a bios update would be the next step I do

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You can also disable the "POST Checks". Your bios makes some checks at every boot if your PC is fine if it's detecting something bad (like the issue you have) it prevents you from booting. It also prints out the error code but your mobo doesn't let it display so to really know what the issue is you need one of these PCI Debugger cards

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 5:16 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVBz8dEfnz8

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Would that work?

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 5:17 PM

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Why I am sure that the issue you are having is related to the POST checks is because the POST checks happen before the video can output any signal. THis meant to be like that. If your monitor does not output any picture, it's very likely an issue with the BIOS or in rarer cases, in issue with the GPU / Monitor / cable

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yes this guide is good

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one note because I don't want to be responsible in case you are bricking your mobo BUT you have currently issues with the bios booting. I have no idea if that can influence your BIOS updating progress but I do not think it will do any harm

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 5:20 PM

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Check the Link I sent

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is that viable?

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The method they are doing

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 5:21 PM

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Your mainboard actually has a Debug Code called "EZ Debug LED"

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yes the guide is good

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 5:22 PM

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So I need to update to the lastest BIOS version?

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📎 unknown.png

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 5:23 PM

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I would have done it. I can't tell you if it helps. I can't tell you if it bricks your mainboard because of the current issue you are having sometimes with booting up but I think it doesn't matter. I had to repair totally corrupted bios and even solder bios chips on mainboards and it all worked fine

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 5:23 PM

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For a reference I am running BaseBoard version 1

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https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B450-TOMAHAWK

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These BIOS Updates tell me nothing.

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Also if I do end up bricking it I can just go and buy a new MOBO

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Only like $112

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 5:25 PM

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Version 7C02v19

- Support Ryzen 3000 series CPU.
Ryzen 9 3900X/Ryzen 7 3800X/Ryzen 7 3700X/Ryzen 5 3600X/Ryzen 5 3600/Ryzen 5 3400G/Ryzen 3 3200G

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it will work fine

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don't you have a ryzen 3xxx ?

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 5:26 PM

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Yeah a 3700x

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 5:26 PM

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I think your current BIOS does not officially support those CPU's

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so it's good in any case

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take the one highest up (Version 7C02v1D)

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then follow the guide in the youtube video

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your bios will look afterwards very different, difference: https://www.msi.com/page/mb-beta-bios

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 5:28 PM

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📎 unknown.png

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 5:28 PM

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no take the newest one

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Version 7C02v1D

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the one on the top

late sorrel Mar 2, 2020, 5:28 PM

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yeah I should flash mine

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I've just been running with out of the box

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 5:29 PM

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?

📎 unknown.png

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 5:29 PM

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shouzld be easy to do, may need to format USB stick to FAT32, dunno how MSI handles this

late sorrel Mar 2, 2020, 5:29 PM

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yeah that one

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 5:29 PM

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I mean Tinted, if it aint broke than dont try to fix it

merry bay Mar 2, 2020, 5:29 PM

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If everything functions as expected, it's advised to avoid flashing your BIOS.

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 5:29 PM

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usually true but there is some nice stuff in those bios updates

late sorrel Mar 2, 2020, 5:30 PM

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yeah, that's why I haven't done it

#

though that one looks much nicer

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 5:30 PM

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Improved system boot up time
Improve memory compatibility
Support OC Profile
Fix RAID issue.
Support Ryzen 3000 series CPU.

late sorrel Mar 2, 2020, 5:30 PM

#

oo

merry bay Mar 2, 2020, 5:30 PM

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Can have unexpected behaviors in some cases. Worst case you'll go a version down

late sorrel Mar 2, 2020, 5:30 PM

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I have linux on an m.2 so boot time isn't that bad

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 5:30 PM

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my midrange mobo, it not only has LED debugger, but also dual bios

late sorrel Mar 2, 2020, 5:30 PM

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though I don't think my mem is officially supported

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 5:31 PM

#

Alright folks

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This is gonna be a stressful time

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 5:31 PM

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it's gonna be fine, just don't lose power :p

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 5:32 PM

#

Sooo

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Real talk

#

What if I go to update it and the PC Fails to restart?

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Well the Displays

late sorrel Mar 2, 2020, 5:32 PM

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then I guess windows is dead

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 5:33 PM

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if the issue persists, then something is odd but I still suspect a peripheral device messing up

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I would learn how to interpret this "MSI EZ DEBUG LED"

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it actually tells you on the mobo the error

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 5:34 PM

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I am afraid to restart now xD

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Its a 50/50 the displays will come back on...

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 5:34 PM

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did you flash it?

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 5:34 PM

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No

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I never tried it

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Yet

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 5:34 PM

#

you don't want to flash it?

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well take your time, nothing to stress

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 5:34 PM

#

So

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This is what I am looking at

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I pre-load the new version of BIOS

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I restart the PC as the BIOS does and the displays fail to load

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I am kinda Shit outta luck

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 5:35 PM

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na, once the PC reboots the flash is completed

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99%

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never seen a BIOS that continued to flash after a reboot

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and the first BIOS I touched was from 2004 or so. Ancient with no real backup solutions

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reboot, enter bios, go to the flash settings, flash a like pro flasher, wait to be finished, restart. If it hangs, reboot again and be mad it didn't work. If it boots, shutdown and reboot again to verify

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 5:41 PM

#

📎 unknown.png

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Okay

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Its in there...

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📎 20200302_125003.jpg

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@Wooza#2865

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Help

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 5:54 PM

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you may need to format your USB stick to be FAT32 and not NTFS

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 5:55 PM

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Is it to late..?

#

Did I brick my build?

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 5:56 PM

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no, just reboot the machine. Also not sure if the file has to be in D:\ meaning it should be D:\bios.rom and not D:\7C92v1D\bios.rom

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 5:56 PM

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So do I hard reboot the system?

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 6:00 PM

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yes, format the USB stick to FAT32 and place the rom file directly in the usb stick without sub folders

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some mainboards require the USB stick to be at a specific port, i don't know in your case but mostly it doesn't mater where

vapid crypt Mar 2, 2020, 6:02 PM

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I think the only time you're required to plug it into a specific USB port is if you're using the Bios flashback function that a lot of motherboards have now

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I believe the Tomahawk does have this feature, it lets you flash the Bios without having to boot into it

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 6:03 PM

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There is a button on the back iirc

vapid crypt Mar 2, 2020, 6:03 PM

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Yeah that's the flash button

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 6:04 PM

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But I gotta get back into the computer itself

vapid crypt Mar 2, 2020, 6:04 PM

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I believe the I/O shield shows which USB port is required for it

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 6:04 PM

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Uhm

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I'm scared

#

It just tried to boot than restarted itself

vapid crypt Mar 2, 2020, 6:05 PM

#

You already flashed it?

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 6:05 PM

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I tried to.

vapid crypt Mar 2, 2020, 6:05 PM

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From the Bios right?

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 6:05 PM

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Didn't have correct file.

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Yes.

vapid crypt Mar 2, 2020, 6:05 PM

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What do you mean?

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 6:05 PM

#

📎 20200302_125003.jpg

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 6:06 PM

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I think because USB stick not using FAT32, or it doesn't understand sub folders

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 6:06 PM

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It isn't using FAT32

vapid crypt Mar 2, 2020, 6:06 PM

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Hmm yeah that's probably why then

#

You have to format it to FAT32

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 6:07 PM

#

I CAN GET BACK INTO MY PC

#

If*

#

cattableflip

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 6:07 PM

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haha.Well don't worry the flashing hasn't started before

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 6:08 PM

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This was working perfectly just last week

#

Wtf happened

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 6:09 PM

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my mouse, after 5 or 6 years of working started to make double clicks for no reason. I am also baffled

#

welcome to electronics

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 6:09 PM

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Gonna let it rest for 10 minutes

vapid crypt Mar 2, 2020, 6:09 PM

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I've had that issue before

median moon Mar 2, 2020, 6:09 PM

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my $200 headphones no longer consistently work in the left ear after only a year :D

vapid crypt Mar 2, 2020, 6:10 PM

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I remember looking stuff up, apparently there's a way to purge static build up with Logitech Mice anyway; and that solves the issue

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 6:11 PM

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:O
In my case (razer), a simple firmware upgrade of the mouse solved the issue

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but instead of doing research, I opened the mouse, cleaned everything, checked the cable, checked every port, checked every driver

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 6:11 PM

#

So

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It went back to the BIOS

#

I just need to exit it?

merry bay Mar 2, 2020, 6:12 PM

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Glorious mice include an option in their software to increase the debounce time in-case the double-clicking issue manifests

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 6:13 PM

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@abstract kite yes exit and reboot

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@merry bay on my research I found out that Windows also has an option like this

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 6:13 PM

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God this shit is annoying

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 6:14 PM

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yup, and once you are done I can recommend you to flash your vBIOS of your 5700 XT. my 5700 XT no longer crashes my system or games anymore while discord is open and runs gifs forever

vapid crypt Mar 2, 2020, 6:15 PM

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Did you update to the newest driver?

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 6:15 PM

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There is a vBIOS?

vapid crypt Mar 2, 2020, 6:15 PM

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Cause I heard it fixes most issues

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 6:15 PM

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I didn't update to 20.3.1

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Or is it 20.2.3

vapid crypt Mar 2, 2020, 6:15 PM

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It's 20.2.2

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 6:16 PM

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Yeah I don't have that one.

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 6:16 PM

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@vapid crypt yes I did but it not help me

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at least with hard locking the system

vapid crypt Mar 2, 2020, 6:17 PM

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Yeah I read it works for most people, but there are still some problems

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 6:17 PM

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not sure if it helps with blackscreen issues in discord, browser etc

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 6:17 PM

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Ah I see

vapid crypt Mar 2, 2020, 6:17 PM

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I haven't updated since I don't have any issues as it is

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 6:18 PM

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This is karma for telling people to not buy the 5700XT

vapid crypt Mar 2, 2020, 6:18 PM

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What? phaWesker

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 6:20 PM

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Told people to not buy the 5700XT because its drivers suck something fierce. This is AMDs punishment. Kek

median moon Mar 2, 2020, 6:20 PM

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me, running a 1660Ti with no problems:

late sorrel Mar 2, 2020, 6:21 PM

#

me, running a RX570 without any problems

vapid crypt Mar 2, 2020, 6:21 PM

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I've heard of people having issues with Nvidia drivers, they're just not prevalent. Soon enough Nvidia will have a bad driver, be fixed in like a week and then everyone will forget about it phaSip

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 6:26 PM

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Okay

#

I reformatted to FAT32

median moon Mar 2, 2020, 6:27 PM

#

you vs. your crush

📎 Screenshot_20200302-1026152.png

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 6:28 PM

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@brisk badger do I need to have the file or 7.Zip file

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 6:29 PM

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file only, not zipped

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 6:30 PM

#

📎 20200302_132935.jpg

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So this

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Just this?

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 6:30 PM

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double click on the folder and paste the content of it on the USB stick

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 6:31 PM

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📎 20200302_133134.jpg

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 6:32 PM

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yes take these files and paste it onto your USB stick

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 6:32 PM

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Okay they both are on there

#

Now time to reboot again into BIOS...

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 6:33 PM

#

good luck 🙂

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 6:34 PM

#

I'm gonna be asking a lot of question

#

📎 20200302_133625.jpg

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Still this :T

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 6:37 PM

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odd. did you format the USB stick to be FAT32?

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 6:37 PM

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Maybe click on it?

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 6:37 PM

#

you can try yes

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 6:38 PM

#

📎 20200302_133807.jpg

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📎 20200302_133134.jpg

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That's it

#

Its updating

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I'm gonna give it sometime to itself

#

And...

#

Seems like a No

#

📎 20200302_134435.jpg

#

It went to 100% restarted

#

So it it safe to hard boot?

#

@brisk badger

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 6:47 PM

#

if it it's done with flashing and said it and rebooted and still no signal then you are fine to plug the power

#

sad it did not help. Next what I would do is to check where MSI hides this "EZ LED DEBUGGER" and try to interpret it. It may tell you the exact error

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 6:49 PM

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Is it on my MOBO or in Software somewhere?

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 6:49 PM

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https://images.gutefrage.net/media/fragen-antworten/bilder/316798117/0_big.png?v=1563010027402

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on your mainboard

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 6:50 PM

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Fuck I gotta open up my computer...

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 6:50 PM

#

xD

#

maybe same time reseat, change the ram DIMMS

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it's weird but I often seen problems solved by doing this

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 6:51 PM

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They are slotted in 1 and 3

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 6:51 PM

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take em out, swap the rams and put them in 1 and 3 again

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maybe blow a little bit so dust does not reach the contacts

vapid crypt Mar 2, 2020, 6:53 PM

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They should be in 2 and 4

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 6:54 PM

#

Hmm

#

So place them in 2 and 4?

#

And reboot my PC?

vapid crypt Mar 2, 2020, 6:54 PM

#

Sure, you might have to re-enable XMP though

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 6:55 PM

#

XMP

elder fog Mar 2, 2020, 6:55 PM

#

turn off your pc before changing slots

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 6:55 PM

#

Yep

vapid crypt Mar 2, 2020, 6:55 PM

#

Its the default overclock setting that the memory is rated for

#

Otherwise it'll run at a slower speed

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 6:56 PM

#

How do I renable that?

vapid crypt Mar 2, 2020, 6:56 PM

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Its a setting in the Bios, its generally labeled XMP profile or something like that. Its under overclocking settings for memory

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 6:58 PM

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Top ones are System Status > Advanced > Overclocking > M-Flash > Security > Boot > Save & Exit

#

Well that may have cganged

dense wasp Mar 2, 2020, 6:58 PM

#

I built a computer at work today :0

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 6:59 PM

#

What's the GPU?

dense wasp Mar 2, 2020, 6:59 PM

#

Down with the RGB it seems ..

📎 image0.jpg

vapid crypt Mar 2, 2020, 7:00 PM

#

Rainbow Puke! PirateSimon

late sorrel Mar 2, 2020, 7:00 PM

#

doesn't look too bad tbh

#

only 3 sticks though?

#

yuck

#

oh wait I suee

#

fan's covering it

vapid crypt Mar 2, 2020, 7:01 PM

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Nah not at all, just teasing the RGB phaWesker

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 7:01 PM

#

Can I just reslot my RAM Sticks on a carpet?

late sorrel Mar 2, 2020, 7:01 PM

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lol

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 7:01 PM

#

Carpet flooring.

#

Its a honest question.

late sorrel Mar 2, 2020, 7:01 PM

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you shouldn't

#

you can

vapid crypt Mar 2, 2020, 7:01 PM

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You mean with the computer in the case sitting on the carpet?

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 7:02 PM

#

Yes.

vapid crypt Mar 2, 2020, 7:02 PM

#

Well it shouldn't be a problem technically, but it might be better just to find a table

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 7:02 PM

#

Okay

dense wasp Mar 2, 2020, 7:03 PM

#

🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 7:03 PM

#

I’ve rubbed my GPU on carpet just to prove that static electricity as its feared is false.

It still works.

late sorrel Mar 2, 2020, 7:03 PM

#

yeah it's a very low chance

dense wasp Mar 2, 2020, 7:03 PM

#

@late sorrel that’s 4 sticks yeah, 32gb 3600mhz 😉

vapid crypt Mar 2, 2020, 7:03 PM

#

They've improved static protection a lot

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 7:03 PM

#

^

late sorrel Mar 2, 2020, 7:03 PM

#

I should put my old gpu back together

#

oo, fancy

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 7:03 PM

#

Do it

late sorrel Mar 2, 2020, 7:04 PM

#

yeah, gtfo on the HD5670

#

that should be fun

vapid crypt Mar 2, 2020, 7:04 PM

#

Not meeting min requirements, let's get this potato going phaSip

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 7:04 PM

#

I see that fractal case, Ludvig.
Meshify C or Define C?

dense wasp Mar 2, 2020, 7:04 PM

#

The whole computer is pretty fancy.
3800x, 32gb ram, 2080ti, nvme os drive.

#

Define C bearz!

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 7:04 PM

#

Yeet

#

Top tier taste going with a Fractal case

late sorrel Mar 2, 2020, 7:05 PM

#

the thing is

#

I don't know where it went

dense wasp Mar 2, 2020, 7:05 PM

#

Aye they are neat.
Nice guys as well, fellow Swedes and all

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 7:05 PM

#

I’ve built my personal PCs solely in fractal cases

#

and I’ve never had issues

dense wasp Mar 2, 2020, 7:06 PM

#

Yeah, same more or less.
All the 10cc comps are Fractal

#

And they sent me 10 new cases so I guess all the new ones will be as well 🤷🏻‍♂️

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 7:06 PM

#

Current is in a Meshify C.
3700X, 32GB 3600mhz, 1070

dense wasp Mar 2, 2020, 7:06 PM

#

That will make do for a while yet! Nice rig

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 7:06 PM

#

10cc has risen higher on my “respect chart” for using fractal cases LOL

dense wasp Mar 2, 2020, 7:07 PM

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I’m really looking forward on building my small form 3950x + 2080ti build 😅
Going with a louqe ghost for that tho

#

Almost have all the parts now

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 7:07 PM

#

Post pics when you get everything

#

Thats gonna be sick

#

I’m waiting on the RTX 3000 series, then I’m jumping to a 3950X as well

dense wasp Mar 2, 2020, 7:08 PM

#

It’s pure overkill for me, the 9900k would have more sense, but wth

#

I had the opportunity 🤷🏻‍♂️

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 7:08 PM

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Overkill for me too, but hey, why not lol

#

I feels thats the main question most enthusiasts of anything ask

#

“Well, why not?”

#

Why not get that intel optane drive

#

Why not get that 3970X

#

lol

dense wasp Mar 2, 2020, 7:09 PM

#

True,
I’m usually in the “before the price jump, then one down” category.
So it’s fun being able to build a real beast for once

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 7:09 PM

#

📎 20200302_140934.jpg

#

Kek

dense wasp Mar 2, 2020, 7:10 PM

#

I’m seriously planning a 3990x build, with 4x gpu and too much ram, to play gtfo I’m VMs

#

Sexy ram Gal 😉

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 7:10 PM

#

I’m of a similar mindset if I’m honest. I got the 3700X because it was just as good as the 9900K in a majority tasks, but cheaper overall

#

B-Baka!

#

That ram is too lewd

dense wasp Mar 2, 2020, 7:10 PM

#

Nude ram

#

🤓

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 7:10 PM

#

needs some heatsinks to cover its precious body

#

:3

dense wasp Mar 2, 2020, 7:11 PM

#

😂

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 7:11 PM

#

@abstract kite I see a wraith cooler

#

What cpu 👀

#

@brisk badger Is that what you were talking about?

📎 20200302_140846.jpg

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That little dime like thing?

#

Yes

#

thats the battery

late sorrel Mar 2, 2020, 7:12 PM

#

oh the battery

dense wasp Mar 2, 2020, 7:12 PM

#

That’s the battery, yeah

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 7:12 PM

#

Pull that and the BIOS will reset itself

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 7:12 PM

#

google: "msi ez debug led"

dense wasp Mar 2, 2020, 7:13 PM

#

Yeah, clearing the CMOS can help some weird ass problems 🤷🏻‍♂️

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 7:13 PM

#

Ryzen builds on first boot will take a while to go through POST

#

Theres nothing wrong

#

but the initial initialization will take some time

#

initial initialization... thats a mouthful

dense wasp Mar 2, 2020, 7:13 PM

#

I noticed that today!

#

I was like, wtf it’s not booting .. but it’s all spinning up nicely etc

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 7:14 PM

#

he has the issue of the pc sometimes not booting / no video output. so far we did:

change boot order
updated bios
unplugged all peripheral devices
nothing helped

dense wasp Mar 2, 2020, 7:14 PM

#

And no error prompt

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 7:14 PM

#

Yea it can take a while

#

No idea why

#

But that’s something with Ryzen I guess

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

dense wasp Mar 2, 2020, 7:14 PM

#

🤷🏻‍♂️

late sorrel Mar 2, 2020, 7:14 PM

#

I was okay with my 2600

#

it just booted and was fine the first time

#

I fucked up plugging the power switch into my mobo though

#

so it didn't work for like 5 minutes lol

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 7:15 PM

#

I’m on my second 3700X, but its treated me more than well

dense wasp Mar 2, 2020, 7:15 PM

#

Huh, that is strange wooza.
Not booting, yeah clearing the cmos could help.

But only not booting? Not any BSODS?

#

I got a couple of 3800xs and 3600xs to play around with from AMD, so it’s nice

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 7:15 PM

#

my guess would be that it fails the POST check. usually when the POST check fails, there is no video output cause the POST operates before video output is sent

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 7:16 PM

#

Perhaps updating my GPU Drivers would help?

dense wasp Mar 2, 2020, 7:16 PM

#

Issue is most likely before that as wooza said

#

Hm

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 7:16 PM

#

no, drivers are loaded with windows. it surely helps in general but not specifically in this case

#

'proper' mainboards have this neat LED error code thingy that tells more but Galerus mainboard lacks this but has some other LED debugger called "msi ez debug led"

#

which may tell more why it does not boot

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 7:17 PM

#

My board has the led error code readout

#

Its sooper useful

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 7:18 PM

#

it's located somwhere on the top right galerus

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 7:18 PM

#

Whats the debug LED flashing though

#

These fans could use some cleaning...

#

Caked in dust

#

📎 image0.png

#

Seems pretty straightforward

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 7:19 PM

#

📎 0_big.png

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 7:25 PM

#

So I just need to look how many lights are on as I boot?

dense wasp Mar 2, 2020, 7:26 PM

#

Yeah they usually blink or so

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 7:27 PM

#

GodSaid

#

Alright let me finish cleaning some of these fans.

#

In the mean time, Ludvig congrats on that award 10 Chambers got. Do you think you'll get nominated for a GOTY too?

dense wasp Mar 2, 2020, 7:28 PM

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Thanks bud!
Oh, I don't expect anything like that 🙂 we're only a EA game and all

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 7:34 PM

#

Alright RAM is reseated, Fans cleaned

#

@vapid crypt should I flash BIOS immediately?

vapid crypt Mar 2, 2020, 7:35 PM

#

You haven't done it yet?

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 7:37 PM

#

Not just yet

vapid crypt Mar 2, 2020, 7:38 PM

#

Is it booting?

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 7:47 PM

#

📎 20200302_144702.jpg

#

Its my DRAM light that's coming on

#

@brisk badger

#

Oh my

#

One of the fans are not blowing

#

In starting to just give up

vapid crypt Mar 2, 2020, 7:59 PM

#

Reseat the RAM, it might be loose

dense wasp Mar 2, 2020, 8:01 PM

#

try with 1 stick as well

vapid crypt Mar 2, 2020, 8:03 PM

#

So to be sure the sticks are seated properly, with both of the little switches opened; push down on the stick with two fingers equally on both ends

#

Until you hear the clicks

fleet canopy Mar 2, 2020, 8:10 PM

#

Hm

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 8:11 PM

#

📎 20200302_151035.jpg

#

Slotted properly

#

It came on

#

📎 20200302_151127.jpg

#

Lemme try to reboot agaib

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 8:52 PM

#

Guys

#

I think we did it

#

I restarted and it came on immediately

vapid crypt Mar 2, 2020, 8:55 PM

#

Great phaAYAYA

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 8:56 PM

#

I still need to flash my BIOS for the RAM

#

Or maybe don't touch it? Lol

vapid crypt Mar 2, 2020, 8:56 PM

#

If its booting it might not be necessary

#

If you're having any other issues, maybe it could help

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 8:57 PM

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No other issues atm...

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Need to boot it one more time

brisk badger Mar 2, 2020, 9:02 PM

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i thought you did update the bios

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 9:09 PM

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I did

dense wasp Mar 2, 2020, 9:09 PM

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here's to hoping it lasts

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 9:09 PM

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@vapid crypt told me to reseat my RAM from 1 and 3 to 2 and 4 after that I may need to do something the BIOS

vapid crypt Mar 2, 2020, 9:10 PM

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Right, enabling the XMP mode

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Or at least ensuring its still enabled if it already was

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Dunno what kind of RAM it is, so phaSheva

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 9:11 PM

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Kingston RAM

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I think its in the upper 2000s for speed

vapid crypt Mar 2, 2020, 9:12 PM

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I mean specifically what speeds and timings its rated for

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 9:12 PM

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Like 2700 iirc

merry bay Mar 2, 2020, 9:15 PM

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Galerus I think you keep using the phrase "flash BIOS" wrong. It's causing a bit of confusion 😅
To flash your bios means installing a different BIOS version.
Looks like you say it when you mean "going into your BIOS" or "enter your BIOS" something along the lines

dense wasp Mar 2, 2020, 9:15 PM

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I think actually updating the bios was part of the error search 🙂

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then they cleared the CMOS as well

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@abstract kite you can see in the BIOS what the memory is running atm as well

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 9:21 PM

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I see

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Restarted my PC again it gave "No Signal" again but in a couple seconds it booted immediately to the Windows Login Screen.

sick reef Mar 2, 2020, 9:26 PM

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Clearing CMOS is always a good way solve issues.

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 9:26 PM

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CMOS?

sick reef Mar 2, 2020, 9:27 PM

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"Complementary Metal Oxide Semiconductor", apparently.
On a PC, it's the thing that keeps track of your hardware setup.

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Like how much RAM you have, and where it is, what CPU, GPU, PCI-e cards, etc.

vapid crypt Mar 2, 2020, 9:29 PM

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So your Bios might look different, but this should give you an idea of how to check the speed of the RAM and to check and enable XMP if you must

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steady solar Mar 2, 2020, 9:29 PM

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@abstract kite all good now?

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 9:30 PM

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Should be... I'm gonna restart and open my BIOS.

steady solar Mar 2, 2020, 9:30 PM

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What was the problem

sick reef Mar 2, 2020, 9:31 PM

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Life

vapid crypt Mar 2, 2020, 9:31 PM

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Compooters

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 9:32 PM

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📎 20200302_163201.jpg

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Looks exactly the same even with the update

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Kek

vapid crypt Mar 2, 2020, 9:33 PM

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Well looks the same with how they organize it yeah, otherwise its cosmetically different phaWesker

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Actually you know what if anything its better that way phaSheva

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 9:34 PM

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So

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Is this what you ate looking for?

vapid crypt Mar 2, 2020, 9:35 PM

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Well I can't see what this tab is PirateSimon

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Also hello there in the reflection 👀

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 9:36 PM

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H-Hentai!

vapid crypt Mar 2, 2020, 9:36 PM

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ConfusedUlf

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 9:37 PM

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📎 20200302_163735.jpg

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This is in advance settings

vapid crypt Mar 2, 2020, 9:38 PM

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It should be under the overclocking tab

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 9:38 PM

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Its warning me.

vapid crypt Mar 2, 2020, 9:39 PM

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Sure that makes sense

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Lawyer red tape phaSip

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 9:39 PM

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Ah

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2,666MHz

vapid crypt Mar 2, 2020, 9:41 PM

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Odd, where's the XMP setting phaSheva

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 9:42 PM

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📎 20200302_164146.jpg

vapid crypt Mar 2, 2020, 9:42 PM

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That's manual timing settings

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Do you see A-XMP anywhere?

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 9:45 PM

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No. I do not.

vapid crypt Mar 2, 2020, 9:46 PM

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Oh okay, well it might be fine since it might be running at XMP anyway. 2666 on some Kingstom RAM that looks like that I could kinda believe

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 9:47 PM

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Isn't that really slow RAM?

vapid crypt Mar 2, 2020, 9:47 PM

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Kinda weird that you can't confirm it though, maybe if you click down on some of the RAM options I dunno

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Uh slow for Ryzen yeah

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 9:49 PM

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Idk

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I don't see it 2think

vapid crypt Mar 2, 2020, 9:50 PM

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This was a pre-built system right?

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 9:52 PM

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It was

vapid crypt Mar 2, 2020, 9:52 PM

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I could see them skimping on the RAM then

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 9:52 PM

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Than I gutted it and replaced everything inside

vapid crypt Mar 2, 2020, 9:52 PM

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Including the RAM?

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 9:52 PM

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Yeah

vapid crypt Mar 2, 2020, 9:53 PM

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So do you recall what the exact RAM you got was?

abstract kite Mar 2, 2020, 9:53 PM

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Old MOBO was DDr3

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I don't know the exact model of it

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Thank you everyone for helping me so much

steady solar Mar 2, 2020, 10:17 PM

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Ram clocks to whatever

late sorrel Mar 3, 2020, 2:27 AM

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oh fuck it’s bios flash time

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📎 image0.jpg

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aaaaaaaaaaa

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buh

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I don’t think it got updated

abstract kite Mar 3, 2020, 2:39 AM

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@late sorrel You okay?

late sorrel Mar 3, 2020, 2:40 AM

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yeah it worked

abstract kite Mar 3, 2020, 2:41 AM

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Welcome to the club! blob_hype

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Why'd you flash your BIOS though, I thought you were nto having problems?

late sorrel Mar 3, 2020, 2:42 AM

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I wanted to

abstract kite Mar 3, 2020, 3:05 AM

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I flashed mine via interwebs

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Worked a lot better than I thought it would

tardy tinsel Mar 3, 2020, 3:43 AM

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Feel so dumb because i know nothing about building computers

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Slam

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I just go to a store and say "build me a gaming computer" and then I throw my money at them

abstract kite Mar 3, 2020, 3:50 AM

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Ladies and gentlemen, AMD Software that I cannot close. This software has censored my Desktop Icons and I cannot click them. kekw

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late sorrel Mar 3, 2020, 5:02 AM

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noooo

fleet canopy Mar 3, 2020, 5:09 AM

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Haha fucking nice

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I guess desktop icons are now very NSFW

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You’re lucky it’s been censored, or you could have been banned

steady solar Mar 3, 2020, 11:29 AM

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Wtf lmaooo

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@tardy tinsel just plug it in

tardy tinsel Mar 3, 2020, 11:30 AM

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What are you talkin about?

steady solar Mar 3, 2020, 11:30 AM

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Komputer

tardy tinsel Mar 3, 2020, 11:31 AM

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I obviously know how to plug a computer in to turn it on

steady solar Mar 3, 2020, 11:31 AM

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Ye that how u build

tardy tinsel Mar 3, 2020, 11:31 AM

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I don't know what parts to get

steady solar Mar 3, 2020, 11:32 AM

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Computer monitor

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Computer software

tardy tinsel Mar 3, 2020, 11:33 AM

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I'm talking about graphics card, processor, getting the right motherboard, and what tower is the right size to hold all those parts in

steady solar Mar 3, 2020, 11:34 AM

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See processor socket

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Match with motherboard socket

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See mother board size

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Match with case

fleet canopy Mar 3, 2020, 1:09 PM

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Or just use pcpp

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Just know that not every part is listed

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Should give you general of whatever

steady solar Mar 3, 2020, 1:21 PM

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Yep plug in

fleet canopy Mar 3, 2020, 1:24 PM

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I suppose you’re not from America, so I can just generally recommend you a GTX 1660, Ryzen 3600 (stock cooler is good if you no overclock), 2x8GBDDR4 3200-3600MHz CAS 16, B450 Tomahawk MAX for automatic support for ryzen 3000 ( no bios update need ), Intel 660p or Western Digital blue (NVME if you can afford it) 250GB ( OS boot ), 1-2TB western digital blue HDD (drive size is your choice), Corsair Carbide series spec 03 (what I own, can fit a 2070 Super and size is mid tower, supports ATX), and you can fit in 4 120mm fans into case (2 front, one top, one back fan), a 600-700W PSU rated 80+ gold (very good for you, or you can opt in for a bronze for more affordability), it’ll run 1080p 144Hz ( they go for 150USD low ), keyboard and mouse depends on how you like them (big, small, finger grip or palm grip, whatever shit has on it)

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Anyway I’ll be leaving, I hope this helps

steady solar Mar 3, 2020, 1:25 PM

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What the fuck

fleet canopy Mar 3, 2020, 1:26 PM

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Yes

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Bye bye

vapid crypt Mar 3, 2020, 3:26 PM

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Hwat

abstract kite Mar 3, 2020, 3:46 PM

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So I am looking into a nice form-factor build that is able to hold a regular sized GPU such as the 5700XT and the like.

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Any suggestions?

vapid crypt Mar 3, 2020, 4:04 PM

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What uh form factor are you thinking?

late sorrel Mar 3, 2020, 4:12 PM

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you could probably do itx and up

abstract kite Mar 3, 2020, 4:15 PM

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So I am looking into a nice form-factor build that is able to hold a regular sized GPU such as the 5700XT and the like.
ITX to EATX. It’s really your preference.

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The NZXT H1 has me going 👀

late sorrel Mar 3, 2020, 4:17 PM

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mini-itx would be hard to do

abstract kite Mar 3, 2020, 4:18 PM

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Not really

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H1 solves most of the issues that a majority of SFF builds have

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I really like that case

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But

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Really? Kek

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Piece of Aluminum worth $350?

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You’re getting an AIO and a 650w SFF gold PSU with it

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Youre paying for three parts

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Oh wow

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All you need to buy is ram, storage, cpu, mobo, and gpu if you dont already have it

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all I would need is the MOBO

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Its a pretty good deal, if you price out the parts the case is really only $120

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What system are you running? Intel or AMD?

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I can hot swap everything from my current build

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Full AMD

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What chippo

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Ryzen 7 3700x

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Hmm

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These are really your only two options for X570 ITX. Neither are bad though.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/NqsnTW/asus-rog-strix-x570-i-gaming-mini-itx-am4-motherboard-rog-strix-x570-i-gaming

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/NQ7p99/gigabyte-x570-i-aorus-pro-wifi-mini-itx-am4-motherboard-x570-i-aorus-pro-wifi

vapid crypt Mar 3, 2020, 4:31 PM

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You want to see an ITX case that will fit anything

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abstract kite Mar 3, 2020, 4:33 PM

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Honestly

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thats a work of art

red tangle Mar 3, 2020, 4:33 PM

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thats impressive

median moon Mar 3, 2020, 4:39 PM

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wewlad

sick reef Mar 3, 2020, 4:56 PM

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If a price for something you see as basic, or too simple is too high then simply craft it yourself. Especially regarding computer cases.

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monkaHmm

dense wasp Mar 3, 2020, 5:03 PM

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Meshify build today

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median moon Mar 3, 2020, 5:11 PM

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woahaoaoaoaao

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cool

median spindle Mar 3, 2020, 5:14 PM

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What are we discussing in this channel?

tardy tinsel Mar 3, 2020, 5:16 PM

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PC stuff

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Mainly building

void perch Mar 3, 2020, 5:19 PM

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That's petty Ludvig

abstract kite Mar 3, 2020, 5:21 PM

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Ludvig

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record the peel of the plastic cover/trim on the front

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:3

late sorrel Mar 3, 2020, 5:25 PM

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noice

dense wasp Mar 3, 2020, 5:25 PM

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I left the plastic on for Anders who is going to use it 😅

exotic rampart Mar 3, 2020, 5:27 PM

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Enough storage for GTFO? 8x2TB 🌚

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void perch Mar 3, 2020, 5:28 PM

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@exotic rampart you into servers too? Did you see my server build?

exotic rampart Mar 3, 2020, 5:29 PM

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@void perch got heaps of them, anchored 48 pieces today in DC

void perch Mar 3, 2020, 5:30 PM

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Nice. My server at home is 20 cores 2.6ghz, 192 GB of ram, 12*3TB, and a 2TB ssd for my database.

exotic rampart Mar 3, 2020, 5:32 PM

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That’s honestly really nice

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Most of my personal servers are Dual Xeon 2650’s with 2.7 GHz and 128 GB Ram and 14 TB Storage each

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Also @void perch most of them are Lenovo or Dell btw 😉

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A rare few are 64 GB Ram

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Also share pics of your home server ❗

void perch Mar 3, 2020, 5:49 PM

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late sorrel Mar 3, 2020, 5:50 PM

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lol it's just vibing in the corner of your living room

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~~you can add a shelf for your 20 controllers~~

void perch Mar 3, 2020, 5:50 PM

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It's more slid fully in now but yeah. My security cameras have good view on it

exotic rampart Mar 3, 2020, 5:57 PM

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Really nice though 🙂

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Will share some of my racks when possible

abstract kite Mar 3, 2020, 8:15 PM

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Might want to call ludvig, lewdvig because this is extremely NSFW. gasm

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fleet canopy Mar 3, 2020, 8:20 PM

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This is so hot

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Honestly I like the one RGB, makes it sort of special lmao

abstract kite Mar 3, 2020, 8:22 PM

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I still can't believe RAM effects your Case Fans from turning on... makes no sense to me.

lament fiber Mar 3, 2020, 8:55 PM

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Is anyone here an AMD overclocker? If so I have a few questions I would like to ask you.

dense wasp Mar 3, 2020, 9:03 PM

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@abstract kite it woke up like that!

abstract kite Mar 3, 2020, 9:05 PM

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I'm sure. 4278_Ahegao

dense wasp Mar 3, 2020, 9:05 PM

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Those cases has so good airflow thou

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they are practically see-through

lament fiber Mar 3, 2020, 9:07 PM

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Just get a naked/inverted case and put in in a mid sized dog kennel to keep pets off it and you are golden.

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I have pets so that ITX case above would be bad. I'd have a cat sleeping on top of it when I get home.

abstract kite Mar 3, 2020, 9:08 PM

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Get one of those Tempered Glass cases with lewd animations on it.

lament fiber Mar 3, 2020, 9:09 PM

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Better yet a 3d holo image

merry bay Mar 4, 2020, 12:21 AM

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If it's hot, it should by default ramp up the fan speeds. Can check the fan curve in afterburner's settings. If you want to adjust it to speed up the fans earlier.

abstract kite Mar 4, 2020, 12:50 AM

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Make sure all fans are spinning too and not being blocked by cables that can be in the way.

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Also make sure the fans that need to push air in and out are facing the right directions.

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Oh and when checking fans check the mesh/AIO panels for Dust build up and clean it if need be.

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That includes your GPU exhaust nd CPU Heatsink.

rancid kindle Mar 4, 2020, 1:42 AM

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Ok people. My brothers esports org needs your help

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They can't install "Origin"

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They just set up these PC's

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They used for 10-20 mins fine

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Then they ALL (theres multiple) stopped working

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They all also got this

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They've tried "sfc/scannow" whatever that is

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Didn't find anything

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Sorry for quality

abstract kite Mar 4, 2020, 1:48 AM

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So the PC itself is fine, but your Origin account is not working? 4594_ThinkingSun

rancid kindle Mar 4, 2020, 1:49 AM

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Apparently. I have no idea I'm trying to copy info from their group chat into here

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The "ssd isn't showing, have to install windows on the hdd"

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They said the install is painfully slow but working

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Ok that was all 2h ago

abstract kite Mar 4, 2020, 1:54 AM

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So

rancid kindle Mar 4, 2020, 1:54 AM

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Just now they've managed to make it run but it takes 5mins just to launch the game (this is the esports apex team)

abstract kite Mar 4, 2020, 1:55 AM

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They only have one SSD no HDD?

rancid kindle Mar 4, 2020, 1:55 AM

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They're using an HDD

abstract kite Mar 4, 2020, 1:55 AM

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Hm

rancid kindle Mar 4, 2020, 1:55 AM

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Now keep in mind I have no idea what any of this means (maybe a little but not much)

abstract kite Mar 4, 2020, 1:56 AM

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If the HDD is going super slow it could indicate failure and potentially corrupted files OR they need to defrag and clean their registry.

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That could potentiality fix the problem regarding that.

rancid kindle Mar 4, 2020, 1:58 AM

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Ok awesome now how would they do that? Idk if they'll know how or not (I definitely don't)

abstract kite Mar 4, 2020, 1:59 AM

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They need to locate their C drive > Right Click > Properties > in a tab there should be a Defrag button and a Disk Cleanup.

rancid kindle Mar 4, 2020, 2:00 AM

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Ok sounds perfect I'll relay that to them thank you

abstract kite Mar 4, 2020, 2:00 AM

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Send pics pls

rancid kindle Mar 4, 2020, 2:04 AM

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Ok they will try that soon and I'll come back here if anything 💪

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They said they're more worried that the SSD isn't even an option

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Even with it being plugged in and out

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Doesn't show up on the Bios

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Or when installing windows

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Want me to find out which mobo and ssd?

abstract kite Mar 4, 2020, 2:09 AM

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Hmm

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Its a possability that SSD may be faulty...

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Hm

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Have they tried plugging in the SSD cable into another slot on the MOBO?

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Is the SSD connected to the PSU? Is it the main Drive or is it a Slave?

rancid kindle Mar 4, 2020, 2:15 AM

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This would involve taking the pc apart to check I guess?

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Because they said they'd rather just deal with the 5min startup than taking it apart

abstract kite Mar 4, 2020, 2:20 AM

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That's like saying that your cars tire is flat and you have the equipment to fix it, but instead you drive on that flat tire.

rancid kindle Mar 4, 2020, 2:23 AM

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Lmao ok I told them that

copper zealot Mar 4, 2020, 3:49 AM

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Basically they need to go into bios and change their boot order to UEFI Secure boot if it is win x64 or if it is legacy use legecy boot and adjust boot order to the proper HD / SSD at the top of the list

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It depends on what they used to install the Operating System. If it is windows 10 and pretty new stuff, UEFI Secure boot is probly defaulted.

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Also have them disconnect any USB sticks and or external components that could be seen as a hard drive. But boot order in bios should fix that

vale adder Mar 4, 2020, 4:06 AM

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hey guys so everytime i try to play gtfo i get about 4 minutes in and in bluescreens my computer. i was wondering if theres any way to fix this or if my games just bugged

fleet canopy Mar 4, 2020, 4:08 AM

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That could be your RAM I guess

vale adder Mar 4, 2020, 4:15 AM

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i have 16 idk if that matters though

copper zealot Mar 4, 2020, 4:23 AM

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update drivers

cyan rampart Mar 4, 2020, 5:22 AM

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-EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 8GB Graphics Card
-Intel Core i7 9700K Processor 9th Gen BX80684I79700K
-Asus ROG Strix Z390-E Gaming Motherboard
-Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB DDR4 RAM 3000
-EVGA 650 GQ 80+ GOLD Power Supply
-WD Blue 500GB SSD
-Seagate BarraCuda 2TB Hard Drive

fleet canopy Mar 4, 2020, 5:22 AM

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Gidjsjh

lime tartan Mar 4, 2020, 5:22 AM

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ouch

fleet canopy Mar 4, 2020, 5:22 AM

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Is supper gooood

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You has vewwy good pc uwu

lime tartan Mar 4, 2020, 5:22 AM

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yesyes uwu

cyan rampart Mar 4, 2020, 5:22 AM

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And I know nothing about it :3

fleet canopy Mar 4, 2020, 5:22 AM

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2080 is one of the top end

lime tartan Mar 4, 2020, 5:22 AM

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jsjsjsjss uwu

fleet canopy Mar 4, 2020, 5:22 AM

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Like below 2080 Super and 2080 Ti

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CPU is also one of the really good gaming CPUs too

cyan rampart Mar 4, 2020, 5:23 AM

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freckle_excited

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I'm learning

fleet canopy Mar 4, 2020, 5:24 AM

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Like it used to be the discount 9900K for gaming lol

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Now people just buy the Ryzen 3700X since it’s cheaper and affords similar/higher performance

cyan rampart Mar 4, 2020, 5:24 AM

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I'll be honest

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I have to look up everything you say XD

fleet canopy Mar 4, 2020, 5:25 AM

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You have a really good PC though, I wish I had these specs myself lmao

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But I’m good off with my i7 7700K and 2070 Super

cyan rampart Mar 4, 2020, 5:25 AM

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I mean, cost me an arm and leg. But really wanted something good for gaming and since im going in animation

fleet canopy Mar 4, 2020, 5:26 AM

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Just gotta switch out the cpu at one point o: but it’s a great pc uwu

cyan rampart Mar 4, 2020, 5:26 AM

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Also very useful for college and university soon

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Well, thank you uwu

fleet canopy Mar 4, 2020, 5:26 AM

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You’re welcome

median moon Mar 4, 2020, 6:07 AM

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for now i am content with my 1660ti and beyond happy with the 3800x

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you bet your ass i'm going broke when ampere comes out though, i'll probably go for a 3070 or a blower 2080ti if they get super cheap

late sorrel Mar 4, 2020, 6:08 AM

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hell yeah

abstract kite Mar 4, 2020, 6:08 AM

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@median moon Keep in mind that with the corona virus and stuff, we might not get 3000 soon

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maybe

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but it's pretty weird now

late sorrel Mar 4, 2020, 6:09 AM

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I’m considering seeing how the 3070
Lines up

median moon Mar 4, 2020, 6:09 AM

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well yeah i'm not expecting it soon

late sorrel Mar 4, 2020, 6:09 AM

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I have a friend who@might be anle@to@aell@his 1080ti for profit

abstract kite Mar 4, 2020, 6:09 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xH4auN09mIM

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This vid opened my eyes a lot

late sorrel Mar 4, 2020, 6:09 AM

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Thanks to corona

median moon Mar 4, 2020, 6:09 AM

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but when it does come out

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🏃

abstract kite Mar 4, 2020, 6:09 AM

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Oh for sure

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I might have scored a 2080S

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dont know yet

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but if I get it I'll be holding off on 3000

late sorrel Mar 4, 2020, 6:10 AM

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I’m hoping 3000 is a significant upgrade

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It’s this summer right?

median moon Mar 4, 2020, 6:10 AM

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i mean as long as it runs 1440p minecraft with VM shaders and a 512x resource pack at 80+ fps

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hook me up

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definitely not anymore @late sorrel

abstract kite Mar 4, 2020, 6:11 AM

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@late sorrel it was

late sorrel Mar 4, 2020, 6:11 AM

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ah yeah

abstract kite Mar 4, 2020, 6:11 AM

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but no one knows now

median moon Mar 4, 2020, 6:11 AM

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i'm betting corona delayed it to late q3/early q4

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if not next year's q1

abstract kite Mar 4, 2020, 6:11 AM

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Psh 1440p Minecraft you need 4k Ray Tracing

median moon Mar 4, 2020, 6:11 AM

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i have

late sorrel Mar 4, 2020, 6:11 AM

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it was

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Damn, f

median moon Mar 4, 2020, 6:11 AM

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a 1660ti

abstract kite Mar 4, 2020, 6:11 AM

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hehe

median moon Mar 4, 2020, 6:11 AM

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please stop bullying me

late sorrel Mar 4, 2020, 6:11 AM

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I have a 570

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please no bulli

abstract kite Mar 4, 2020, 6:11 AM

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1660ti guud

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570 best budget card for the price

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If you have a 1080ti than I will bow to you

late sorrel Mar 4, 2020, 6:12 AM

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yeah

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That’s why I bought it

median moon Mar 4, 2020, 6:12 AM

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why 1080ti.

abstract kite Mar 4, 2020, 6:12 AM

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or was it the 1060 ThinkingDiscordBlob

late sorrel Mar 4, 2020, 6:12 AM

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Along with a 2600

median moon Mar 4, 2020, 6:12 AM

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why not 2080ti.

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also my laptop has a 1050 and it was $1500 am i a cool kid

abstract kite Mar 4, 2020, 6:13 AM

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The 1080Ti, despite its age still out preforms a 2070Ti and a 5700XT regarding shear FPS

late sorrel Mar 4, 2020, 6:13 AM

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None the less I might give up on 3k then and just get a 3700x and a 2070S

abstract kite Mar 4, 2020, 6:13 AM

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Thats a great combo

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Well

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You may get some bottle necking iirc

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I think like 5% though Shrug

late sorrel Mar 4, 2020, 6:14 AM

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Oh, so is it real 3800x hours then?

abstract kite Mar 4, 2020, 6:14 AM

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3700x bottlenecking a 2070 thunk

late sorrel Mar 4, 2020, 6:14 AM

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~~3950x~~

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yeah that didn’t make sense but I’ve been out of the loop

abstract kite Mar 4, 2020, 6:15 AM

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Yea there's no bottleneck that I'm aware of

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I remember one of you guys telling me I would have slight bottlenecking with my CPU and if I got a 2070TI

median moon Mar 4, 2020, 6:15 AM

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3800x hours

abstract kite Mar 4, 2020, 6:15 AM

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Wasn't me that's for sure

median moon Mar 4, 2020, 6:15 AM

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woooooo

late sorrel Mar 4, 2020, 6:15 AM

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it was

abstract kite Mar 4, 2020, 6:15 AM

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was waht

median moon Mar 4, 2020, 6:16 AM

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discord did an oopsie

late sorrel Mar 4, 2020, 6:16 AM

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^

median moon Mar 4, 2020, 6:16 AM

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reposted my message on corona delays

abstract kite Mar 4, 2020, 6:16 AM

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huh

median moon Mar 4, 2020, 6:17 AM

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ok so, tryna run a 570 with my 3990x...

abstract kite Mar 4, 2020, 6:17 AM

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Don't panic everyone! 1 day passes and 1 confirmed death Washington State Declares state of emergency

median moon Mar 4, 2020, 6:17 AM

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worried the gpu will bottleneck the cpu...

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/s

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@abstract kite we have 9 confirmed deaths now.

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⚠️

abstract kite Mar 4, 2020, 6:17 AM

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I know

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When they said dont panic a day passed and 1 died because of it