no, some weird resolution
#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk
vapid crypt
No not you, Wesley 
median moon
o h.
finite violet
just 1080
median moon
vapid crypt
2080ti at 1080p huh...
Yeah I dunno what you upgraded from but you could have spend half on the GPU and half on a new monitor and be perfectly fine in that case
sick reef
Kinda. 1080p is not very demanding at all.
vapid crypt
Its also more limiting with the CPU compared to higher resolutions
remote horizon
1080p 500 fps 
sick reef
Standard CS if they didn't limit FPS at 400.
fleet canopy
Hm
finite violet
I went with a cheap monitor because i don't have much room
and i very much feel like someone's gonna walk in my room and knock it down on accident
It's fine because I want to have a 2nd monitor anyway
and it won't have to be great for that
I'm moving soon, will have a bigger room and a nice desk
then I'll probably get a vr and a 4k monitor 
I didn't upgrade anything either, I just had a laptop till I started building my current rig
cpu should be fine, it's a 3950 
vapid crypt
Yeah the CPU is fine, I was just pointing out that generally compared to 1440p and 4k, 1080p is slightly more limiting with the CPU
finite violet
I also have to swap rooms often
vapid crypt
I'm pretty sure you can render 4k and downscale to your monitor resolution though
finite violet
And I wouldn't want to move around the expensive screen all the time
vapid crypt
I don't know how to go about it, but that is a thing
finite violet
yeh
vapid crypt
Also removes the need for AA
finite violet
On most games it just does that if you set the resolution higher on it's own?
vapid crypt
You have to allow that, cause typically games will limit the resolution to the maximum native one
vapid crypt
Sure, yeah Anti Aliasing is what it means. Super Sampling is a method of doing it.
finite violet
ah
don't know too much about all that
I'm honestly surprised my build even worked
hardest part was mounting the liquid cooler
sick reef
Then you had an easy build 
finite violet
I don't think you understand the PAIn i'vE bEEN thrOUGH
those mounts are like they were just designed to piss you off
abstract kite
What cooler were you using?
finite violet
like there should be hooks so it just clicks in there
but there's no hooks
uh
Corsair H100i RGB PLATINUM AIO Liquid CPU Cooler,240mm,Dual ML120 PRO RGB PWM Fans,Intel 115x/2066,AMD AM4/TR4
yes
abstract kite
what cpu did you get
finite violet
ryzen 9 x3950
finite violet
what
abstract kite
That's kinda small for that chip
imo
I had the same cooler as you for my 3700X
It leaked from the pump so I switched back over to air
finite violet
works fine
abstract kite
Good to hear
finite violet
π
finite violet
and dragon center shows my gpu and motherboard
while i can't see/control the ram from there
abstract kite
Hmmm
I control my mobo and ram from Armoury Crate
cos Asus mobo
Debating on getting either a 3070 (if Nvidia keeps the same naming scheme) or a 2080 super depending on the price to performance whenever the next generation of cards release
finite violet
i've also been thinking about getting 2 more ramsticks just to fill it up and have more rgb
I think there's also like just rgb only that you can plug in there
but that feels like an actual full on waste to buy
abstract kite
Lol yea
I'm happy with my 32gb right now
but I'm glad I got two sticks
so I can upgrade whenever the time comes
finite violet
doesn't seem like I'll use anything above 32gb soon
things were getting close sometimes when having multiple things running on my laptop with 16gb
abstract kite
Somehow MW likes to use 12GBs
finite violet
mainly with school vm stuff
abstract kite
^
finite violet
abstract kite
I dedicate 16gb to mah VM
finite violet
fleet canopy
vapid crypt
Oh wow, I guess you run a lot of mods?
patent token
The current pack we use has I think 200
But before playing my PC's already at like 10-12gb of usage
rancid kindle
Ok well
Still in debt but
Don't have to pay until march 20
So I should be fine
vapid crypt
Oh alright, well good luck with that
rancid kindle
I have like $700 rn and I owe like $900 in credit
$400-500 was bc of the pc
Epic
PC runs so nicely btw
vapid crypt
Did you email Arctic for the backplate?
vapid crypt
How long has it been since you got the cooler, maybe you could refund it and get something else. Kind of a shame you just have the thing lying around not doing anything
rancid kindle
Bruh idec anymore lmao. You live and you learn. It works now I'm not touching this pc for a long time
Yeah I'll look for refunding or maybe reselling but
Worst case if nobody gets back to me I'll just donate it to my local computer shop
He's a good guy
Then someone who has a motherboard it fits can buy it
vapid crypt
Its a good idea to get better cooling just cause it does lend to better performance especially with how Ryzen boosts based on thermal load. Maybe to avoid catastrophic mistakes, have someone with the know how do it for you. Then again you were able to install your brother's cooler just fine so
patent token
Just throw PC into a fridge
vapid crypt
That's what Intel had to do to get a 28 core Xeon to 5ghz
I mean essentially, it was an industrial grade chiller or something
1000W TDP 
frank sleet
Can anyone help me out? I just bought an MSI G65 Stealth, and I'm having some problems with the wifi. I used it at my in-laws house and it ran beautifully, but when I'm running it at home, it's a different story. It constantly drops wifi every couple of minutes, and if anything else is on the wifi, that looses connection too. I know it's not an issue with my wifi because everything works fine as long as the G65 isn't on it
exotic rampart
Installing GTFO on the machine at the left will it work on integrated graphics π€
vapid crypt
I doubt it. It's an old Xeon right? I mean it would run probably but not very well.
sick reef
@frank sleet
The Wifi's default setting resets all clients after a duration. Sometimes 1 hour, sometimes less. That means your adapter has to start the connection again.
frank sleet
@sick reef so what can i do to make it better because it makes playing any online game literally impossible
sick reef
You change your routers setting to not do that.
frank sleet
okay awesome! Thank you
sick reef
I had the same issue. Every other hour, my internet would die for a minutes.
Think it should be called something like "Timeout clients after duration" or something.
brisk badger
have you (re)installed the wifi driver?
sick reef
Yeah, my solution might not be the end-all of the solutions
remote horizon
The router setting you are looking for is "ipv4 lease timer"
sick reef
Won't say that in all routers. And it's not technically the same, I believe. What you are talking of is a specific rule for every client, what I am talking of is a general rule applied to all clients at once. Finding either should be good regardless, I guess.
brisk badger
as far as I know, there is no 802.11 (wifi) specification that says anything about disconnecting clients from the wlan.
The client usually itself logs out, let's say a phone when inactive and does a handshake again when connecting
sick reef
Well, the setting I am talking of resets the connection to all clients. Probably to flush out inactive/intrusive clients.
brisk badger
chibihige and labcat most likely talk about the same, that's at least the only thing that comes close of what you talk
but it does not make any sense
inactive devices are inactive and therefor not connected to the wifi
sick reef
No. But it is a setting that exists on a ton of basic routers
brisk badger
I do work with a lot of routers and networking, such an option would be new
it is most likely ip lease you are refering to
sick reef
Probably.
brisk badger
maybe some routers have an option you describe but I still don't see a sense but annoyed clients
sick reef
Yep.
And generally default.
Losing an IP lease would not be too bad on the connection, or so I presume.
But hard disconnecting and reconnecting, that is pretty bad.
brisk badger
IP lease happen usually on the fly, the client doesn't really notice anything. All it needs is a DHCP server to be in the same network. With the command ipconfig /all you can find out when the next release if your IP is assuming it's not static. A lease can be one day or many more whereas the busier the network the shorter the lease
sick reef
Yeah. Figures.
As soon as it so would lose its IP, it would try to get a new one, assuming it isn't done preemptively.
But yeah, disconnect and reconnect is the function I am talking about. I do think it's mainly to stop intrusion, but that would only stop surface level intrusion.
It's annoying as all hell, though.
exotic rampart
I doubt it. It's an old Xeon right? I mean it would run probably but not very well.
@vapid crypt when hooking up a GPU Through a Riser it plays GTFO Pretty darn good π
It are indeed Xeon's inside it 2x E5-2650L's and 48GB RAM
sick reef
A good riser will only lose you 1% performance. A bad riser, though, could lose you 20% performance. and PCIe 1.0 riser, who knows how bad that'll run-
carmine vessel
Hey guys, anyone know how to fix this weird texture bug, by somehow managing Settings in-game?
vapid crypt
I've never seen that before, and I don't know a fix for it. However I gotta say it looks like you're going lightspeed
steady cedar
π©
eternal cairn
Go to #gtfo-technical-support for answers, @carmine vessel.
carmine vessel
already, thanks!
fleet canopy
Damn Iβve been looking at Chibiβs pfp wrong the whole time
remote horizon
crisp sage
Upgrading next month, should i get the 5700xt or the 2070s?
marsh sequoia
fleet canopy
Summer for NVIDIA?
Thought it'd be a bit later
Apparently there's now an AMD driver update that now fixes all of the driver problem shit
brisk badger
\o/
- Some games may exhibit stutter intermittently during gameplay on Radeon RX 5000 series graphics products.
- Some games may experience stutter while using Instant Replay or third-party applications that stream or perform screen capture. A potential workaround is to disable these features or applications while gaming.
- Although Radeon Software Adrenalin 2020 Edition 20.2.2 resolves many black screen issues, AMD is aware that some users may still experience black screen or system hang issues during extended periods of gameplay. AMD will continue to monitor and investigate reports of these issues closely.
-.-
vapid crypt
Well I haven't had any driver issues so I'll just stay with the current ones I'm using anyway 
brisk badger
Having a 5700xt: It's a pain. I get random system locks in games. Having discord or a browser running video in the background is like living on the egde
fleet canopy
I also went "Fuck it" and will now be getting a VG27AQ
vapid crypt
Also the high end Navi might be coming out in March, so look out for that before buying anything. New Nvidia cards will likely be in the summer
fleet canopy
vapid crypt
Huh
brisk badger
spec wise I am totally fine with the 5700xt. Always bought mid range cards, worked best for me
fleet canopy
Unless of course, you have a better recommendation
vapid crypt
Why not get the LG monitor?
fleet canopy
Link it here then
fleet canopy
I mean, after all I'm trying to not go too big
To keep the bigger PPI, as well as not have it too big for my limited space on my desk
vapid crypt
Ooo
That one's a bit cheaper and its apparently 240hz
Oh its 1080p I'm dumb
I suppose the TUF model is the best to get then
fleet canopy
Hah
abstract kite
Having a 5700xt: It's a pain. I get random system locks in games. Having discord or a browser running video in the background is like living on the egde
@brisk badger THIS
late sorrel
lol ig 2070 super time
abstract kite
Oh I have one
When you are mindlessly scrolling through Discord and you stumble upon gifs or videos playing and you get the temporary black screen
karmic rampart
What's a decent mic to buy ?
eternal cairn
Blue Yeti.
fleet canopy
5$ mic
eternal cairn
They said "decent", not "cheap".
fleet canopy
:)
unborn quarry
logitecs are pretty solid
fleet canopy
Don't forget this for your PC! https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PXH48d/pepsico-food-mountaindewbottle8count
whole falcon
wut
whole falcon
y tho
fleet canopy
Why not?
whole falcon
It's not a pc part
whole falcon
i disagree
whole falcon
LOL
whole falcon
I guess, but what if I want my pump to continue working afterward?
fleet canopy
Clean it with water
fleet canopy
whole falcon
It's not too hard. You would just need to make sure your hoses/pipes aren't corroded from the sugar and clean them thoroughly with warm water and a pipe cleaner
And then hope you can get it all out of the pump
whole falcon
I think this is likely the channel in which I'm going to spend most of my time chatting.
fleet canopy
Indeed so I guess
Some of us never speak in General, only to be in this channel and possibly sometimes, LFG
I'm surprised the only pinned message is Doot's "Aim Good bullshit" thing
Researched into something that he had a problem with, crosshairs
Probably good for the brginner
Shitty as hell for a good gamer
merry bay
It's not like games go by "center of the screen is where your shots will land"
Was bizarre seeing some older monitors have it an option via the monitor settings. Can't imagine a person who'd find it useful
fleet canopy
It's not too hard to get used to knowing where your shots should land and where your aim is
Once you've looked at it long enough, you know it well enough
merry bay
I actually believe that the people who actually play with gaimglass play better with it, but it's not because of the lazer. They just feel better with it.
merry bay
Similar to some osu players switching on a snake oil setting deep in windows and saying they can aim way better. Feeling better, like a placebo. More confidence, it plays into that
fleet canopy
Although I'm very sure it is not too hard to just use a cursor or a small box for it
whole falcon
Yeah, I have a VIOTEK monitor that has the crosshair feature; I tried it once... ONCE.
It's shit
fleet canopy
Haha
whole falcon
It actually made the game harder because there's this giant useless thing in the middle of the screen
vapid crypt
Uh sure you can remove keycaps
fleet canopy
Well uhh
vapid crypt
As long as we're talking about a regular keyboard and not a laptop keyboard
Just be sure to turn over the keyboard shake out any excess liquid, and let it air dry. It should be fine, was it just water?
Cause if its like soda or something that could be a problem, or so I've been told 
mystic ingot
Technically speaking, tap water contains heavy metals which could cause shorts in electronics. You could; however, soak it in deonized or distilled water to revitalize it & remove any potentially harmful material as pure water is not conductive in itself. Then leave it unplugged & as El Demonio mentioned, upside down to air dry completely.
I have personally had my fair share of spills on my boards, as I have some needy pups that like to hop up on my lap & even rummage around on my desk often. I've since stopped putting drinks on my desk, but I have definitely had my fun with large amounts of pure isopropyl alcohol & distilled water treatments. 
sick reef
It's not the heavy metals in waters that cause the shorts. It's that the salts in it itself are conductive. Deionized water does not conduct electricity, as it does not have any ions, or salts, hence dionized. It is instead a pure, saturated H20 molecule
Distilled water isn't necessarily non-conductive, whilst deionized is.
Over time, all deionized water will self-ionize, or ionize when in contact with air, as it reacts with carbon dioxide.
Technically speaking, deionized water can conduct electricity. Though, it has a resistance of 18.2 Mohm
vapid crypt
Next level tech: Watercooled keyboards.
Fast hands? No problem, you can type at 10000 WPM without setting your keyboard on fire
median moon
LN2 keyboard
vapid crypt
Oh okay it exists 
formal monolith
but the light blue color on it...
vapid crypt
Well yeah whoever put it together has an affinity for that color clearly
abstract kite
So is the first and second generation for the Thredripper good? They look like a regular Ryzen 7 with the threading.
And more expensive, not in themselves but the new things you need such as a x570 board to mount that Thicc CPU
vapid crypt
Um the only thing I heard about Threadripper at least the second gen is that the 32 core is kinda bad, like the newest threadripper is a massive improvement
abstract kite
But the 3rd gen is $4k xD
vapid crypt
I can't be certain about the 24 core, but the 16 core is solid. Though its roughly the same price as a 3950x
Well yeah the 3990x
But the 3970x is the 32 core
That's $2k
As it is though, X399 is not forward compatible. And TRX40 is not backwards compatible
So if you were to buy into older threadripper, you won't be able to go beyond second gen
vapid crypt
The uh 1920x is 255, say that's not bad
On Amazon the 2920X is 400 even
Oh wait its not in stock
abstract kite
It never is xD
vapid crypt
The 1920x is though, and that's 255
Despite the more expensive motherboard and the need for quad channel memory, that's a pretty good value I think
vapid crypt
Hmm how would that compare to buying into a 3900x set up
abstract kite
For the Threadripper and x570 Mobo
vapid crypt
X570? You mean X399 right?
abstract kite
You need at least a X570 Mobo to mount a TR, no?
vapid crypt
Uh no
That's a completely different socket
Its TR4 socket
X399 for first and second gen Threadripper, and TRX40 for the latest one
Which is not compatible with the first two gen
abstract kite
Ah
vapid crypt
Its a LGA socket actually
The pins are on the mobo
Makes sense for a high end thing, cause if you're spending 2 grand on a processor; you don't want it to break from an accident
While the motherboard is maybe ~300 - 400 or so
abstract kite
When a Processor + Mobo are as much as an entire Mid-Range Build 
vapid crypt
I would argue that's fairly high end at that point if its like 2.4k or whatever
But that's going by the newest stuff of course
1920x + X399 mobo is like about 600 I think. And you gotta get quad channel memory too, so double the price on your average dual channel kit
abstract kite
I want 8 TB of RAM to go along with that set up please.
1600w PSU too and a RTX 2080TI
vapid crypt
TBH the early threadripper is pretty bad for gaming, like they had to add a "gaming" setting to ryzen master for it
Which disables half the cores
vapid crypt
Its to improve the latency pretty much, cause that's why its not very good at gaming
sick reef
For good temps, some single-core, and some multicore capabilities, if I was to redo my own purchase today, I'd choose between 7940X and 3950X. Obviously delidding the 7940X as I did this time.
vapid crypt
Well tech talk isn't always fun, especially when we get into deep topics like the power delivery on a motherboard and why its good or bad
sick reef
It'd all be up to singlecore and possible clock speeds at reasonable temperatures.
9940X or 10940X would perform worse.
vapid crypt
Right, cause the solder they use makes it next to impossible to delid
sick reef
Kind of. I wouldn't delid them, at risk of breaking them, regardless.
And then the temps increase significantly.
vapid crypt
Yeah that's why I said next to impossible
Cause its the risk of "oh am I gonna rip something off of the chip when I do this, and brick this $1000 processor?"
abstract kite
Where is that picture of all those bent pins on a processor?
vapid crypt
I saw Der8auer delid a R5 3600, and he was able to do it despite the solder
sick reef
You can, but solder is solder.
vapid crypt
I can't remember if it improved anything though, cause he might have done it wrong
sick reef
Yeah, that would also be a factor. The 3950X would technically be cheaper, but it would come with a ton of caveats.
vapid crypt
Oh, what specifically?
sick reef
Increased chance of having to RMA, more sensitive when mounting. Having to buy a more expensive motherboard to get equal of what I have now. Having to get a waterblock that fits, assuming that I purchased it when I needed it, which would mean waiting for parts to be produced at all.
And yes, performance, if it so runs hotter, and what gain/loss I could have in that sense.
Perhaps it would have ran equal under the same circumstances.
vapid crypt
Running equal as in thermally?
sick reef
Yes.
I know single-core performance under Boost 2.0 is close to equal or lower to that of intels lineup, disregarding 9900K. It is likely it could beat a 7940X, assuming it could base boost high enough.
fleet canopy
Hm
vapid crypt
It boosts to like 4.7ghz on like two cores if I recall correctly, and it draws less power than Intel's offerings as it is. With some voltage tuning you can get more performance while even lowering the power draw too
sick reef
I have no use to lower the power draw.
And as a contrasting metric, mine runs all cores on 4.8
vapid crypt
Well the point is less power = less heat generally
sick reef
Yeah. But that is down to effect draw, almost purely. What was the formula again, 1J=1W. Feels like it'd be negligible when it comes to overclocking, if you have cooling that isn't hindered by the heat generation.
vapid crypt
Sure, as long as it isn't throttling and you aren't concerned with power use yeah that makes sense
sick reef
Obviously, this is me specifically in this situation.
Other people might not feel the same.
vapid crypt
I think people make too much of a big deal about power draw, and I get it in some cases
Like for example the FX 9590 draws over 300w at 5ghz while barely matching a Haswell i7 clocked lower. That's pretty yikes. But you know Bulldozer was a garbage architecture so
sick reef
If one's overclocking, I think power draw should be the least of one's concern. Efficiency, yes, that could be important and a concern. But if one is worried about power draw itself, why overclock to begin with.
sick reef
Yeah.
TN vs IPS
Also, the IPS has, without huge overshoot, a 6.1-ish ms average.
At 144Hz. Run it at 165Hz and it overshoots like crazy.
Both seem like great monitors, though.
vapid crypt
Are you sure its the monitor?
fleet canopy
Oh wait it's TN? Didn't see that
So from reading the reviews, ASUS is apparently an asshole for customer support lmao
And monitor is also apparently not really a good buy? Reviews and Q/A says:
- " You should know this monitor has an issue with the display port malfunctioning and not registering a signal. Unplugging the monitor and essentially hard booting it temporarily fixes the issue but it comes back again as soon as the monitor goes back to sleep. HDMI doesn't have that same problem."
- 3 1-star reviews, 1 3-star review about " This monitor is advertised as IPS, but is actually AHVA IPS which doesn't give the same contrast or picture quality. Whites appear yellow and blacks appear gray. Opening a black and white checkerboard pattern on my Dell IPS next to this monitor shows a very obvious difference." and "I'm also not too happy with the lack of color calibration options. It comes 7 gaming presets but none of them are quite what I want and it doesn't seem like you can calibrate individual settings like contrast / tint.
Anyway the monitor isn't terrible, but definitely lacks contrast and color depth, and I wouldn't have bought it knowing this"
mystic ingot
@sick reef Thanks for clarifying. I meant to add heavy metals & other contaminants. Not something I've studied but something I just have personal experience with.
finite violet
yeh
i tried using hdmi instead of dp
line was still there
then tried a different system
line was also still there
i also connected mine to another monitor
and that worked fine
so it's definitely just the monitor
dense wasp
Yeah I had a green line on my phone, damn lcd broke
fleet canopy
So I guess I'll opt in for hopefully an affordable Samsung (?) 1440p 144hz monitor
Just not fucking 32" lol
finite violet
I looked into it some more and apparently the screen i bought from amazon where it was being displayed as a new one, wasn't actually new
there's a few other people that had a complaint about having those lines show up just weeks after they got the monitor
mystic ingot
Yikes. That's unfortunate. Was it refurbished? If it was portrayed as new I'd definitely get your money back.
mystic ingot
49" is bigger than some people's T.V.'s Lud. Hahaha. That's crazy. How much is a quality monitor with a decent refresh rate of that size? Not that that's an issue I'm sure, but just curious.
finite violet
Hopefully I can get a refund
fleet canopy
Time to explore for another monitor
That doesn't have fucking shit reviews and is what I want
mystic ingot
I've been excepionally leery on buying refurbished stuff. Never had a good experience. Almost always breaks within a year from normal use. But that's only been a handful of items. Like a keyboard, a T.V., & what have you.
fleet canopy
I honestly don't want to go for refurbished haha
From what I've heard from too many, it's a bad idea
finite violet
I wouldn't either if I knew π
fleet canopy
4K, 144hz, 65", 4500$
mystic ingot
Holy moly.
finite violet
I'll probably get a new monitor from a more local company
the same place i got my cpu & gpu from
mystic ingot
That's the crème de la crème.
finite violet
haven't had any issues with those
fleet canopy
Any recommendations?
2560x1440p, 144hz, 1ms, 27", maybe will allow 32-35", 500$ limit, I'll be fine if it's 600$
mystic ingot
Yeah, I have a local Fry's I like to utilize. Just a few miles down the freeway, a little more spendy than Newegg or other popular sites, but their warranties & coverage is great here. I bought my PSU & several other components from them with no issue.
Muppy, have you looked into BenQ? I have a monitor from them & it's beautiful. It was very affordable too.
fleet canopy
Hm
Never did, seemed everyone memed the hell out of it
Yeah the zowie thing
I just kept seeing "ZOWIE" spammed in an ESL twitch chat
Plus some of the monitors are damn ugly
XL2546
mystic ingot
How so? I take everything people say with a grain of salt, haha. I got it on sale on Newegg awhile back. Mine was around 2-300 but it's a 32" curved monitor, its color profile is gorgeous compared to all my previous monitors. 144hz. If I had the money I'd have gone for a higher resolution, but the color is beautiful.
merry bay
who wouldn't meme excessive ads about the brand that the players in the event are using 
fleet canopy
Man, only has TN :(
IPS/VN would be nice
More on IPS
I hear good about samsung though
Lemme widen the gap for the selection
mystic ingot
Ah shoot. Yeah if that's something you're looking for then that probably wouldn't be ideal.
I've used mostly Samsung monitors or LG even, but Samsung would be my next go to over LG for sure.
fleet canopy
2560x1440p, 120-165hz, 1ms, 27", maybe will allow 32-35", 500$ limit, I'll be fine if it's 600$, IPS/VA,
I guess C27HG70 is nice
Or C32HG70
empty plank
God I need to get a 144hz monitor
empty plank
Lowest amount of input lag possible
empty plank
Prob the 1ms
empty plank
Yea
dense wasp
I have the Samsung h50 or whatever at home, is nice.
Iβve heard tons of good about LGs ultras, and AOC has done some good monitors lately as well
fleet canopy
Quicker reaction time for you
And uhhh
Do you want good color or want the cheaper option?
empty plank
I donβt wanna spend 600 but Iβd say around that
fleet canopy
You don't have to pay 600$ for that unless it's 1440p
Usually goes for like 200$ ish
fleet canopy
Brightness seems to be a little eh, and stand is said to be meh too but I don't think you'll complain lol
145$ and it's great for what reviews are saying
fleet canopy
NVIDIA has gsync support for all freesync now o:
But it's only an option for you to have on if you'd like
mystic ingot
I feel a lot of the tearing is from incompatible software, but could be wrong. I've not experienced that in years it feels, at least nothing major.
fleet canopy
I'm more sure that's just the lower end of monitors
mystic ingot
That's fair. It would drive me bonkers too, so I've always tried to budget for a decent one.
fleet canopy
Mid end doesn't seem to have a lot of it ( 1080p 144hz, 1440p 60Hz ), higher shouldn't even have it unless you're doing something wrong
Plus it's more of how your PC is performing with monitor so yeah
empty plank
Yah bad monitors canβt keep up with certain refresh rates even when their made for it
But higher end monitors usually have no problem
fleet canopy
Wouldn't think that's the case
abstract kite
Restarted my PC and my Displays are not booting....
Uhm
Help
And its fine again..
Hmm
sick reef
PC gaming. Not even once. Or twice. Oh, it works. Wait, no.
old patrol
Lolz
fleet canopy
Hm
old patrol
Found these in my brothers closet
old patrol
GTX 1070
fleet canopy
Yeah I was going to say lol
old patrol
Lol
sick reef
Reference.
fleet canopy
Thought the image would be too shitty to see it
sick reef
Some look used.
old patrol
Well they been in here for like 4 years
sick reef
Or it's just the lighting.
fleet canopy
Honestly would get 1080 Ti for a nice showcase
sick reef
Well, it's how it builds dust. Not that it has.
sick reef
It's FE models.
FE Models can be cheaper sometimes. Several of them would imply mining.
1070 is a poor choice, but I guess 1060 ran out of stock quick often, back then.
fleet canopy
Yeah
abstract kite
Did I say something weong Labcat?
fleet canopy
1060 was a great card at least
sick reef
Ah, no, Galerus. It's just that random issues can arise from almost nothing sometimes, and then fix themselves without any interaction.
It's more a trope than anything.
abstract kite
After I restarted it once I let everything load than restarted again
It was fine.
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
fleet canopy
Or really, you fixed it without even knowing you did
sick reef
1060 was cheap for the processing you needed to mine. But the 480 and 580 was better by virtue of often being cheaper. It is what put AMD back on the map, even.
Yeah. Turning it off and back on again, whilst seeming retarded, solves a lot of stuff.
fleet canopy
Have you tried unplugging and then plugging it back in?
Have you tried smacking your computer with a bat?
sick reef
A hard reset as well does more than a soft reset ever will.
fleet canopy
Does it not fix anything?
Thatβs where the SuperFixo 9000 comes in, solving any problems easily!
You simply put the device onto the computer, go far away from it, and watch it explode to pieces!
You just now fixed your computer in the most idiotic way possible!
Or you can opt in for our cheaper option, simply water in a bottle
eternal cairn
I just installed Pihole, so no more ads on my smart TV and Xbox!
I only realized I could do it since I still had a random computer kit lying around that I could use with Raspberry Pi.
late sorrel
nice!
fleet canopy
Neat
fleet canopy
Should I actually consider getting a X570 or a B450?
abstract kite
Restart my PC?
fleet canopy
Restart the web page
vapid crypt
B450 is a lot cheaper and offers a number of boards (mainly MSI) with excellent power delivery that will handle a Ryzen 9 3900X on a prime95 load, albeit with an undervolt. X570 pretty much has a couple options in the sub $200 that has decent VRMs for both Ryzen 9s
Otherwise everything else in that price range is meh in terms of power delivery going by this tier list I've seen
Like you don't see really good X570 boards until you're in the ~$300 range, and I mean in terms of feature set, power delivery the whole thing
If you need a reference though, check this article out
fleet canopy
I mean sure
But like is it worth enough going for X570 or should I just opt in for B450/B550?
eternal cairn
I wouldn't say it is. A motherboard is a motherboard. No intricate number of features is going to make me want to pay more than what I need.
fleet canopy
Because it's kind of pricey, but it has PCIe 4.0 and uhh not sure what else
eternal cairn
Still not worth the extra $$$.
fleet canopy
B450 has the disadvantage of PCIe 3.0, which might interfere with the performance probably
But cheap as hell
So I just want to be sure
eternal cairn
The later versions just allow for higher data transfer speeds, if I recall.
Unless you need that kind of speed, which I doubt you will, it's probably not worth it.
fleet canopy
I mean, I have this build atm https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GKzvsk
Not with me rn
But I will get
The CPU will be switched out with one of the 4000 series eventually
Because I'm still wait
So I'm not gonna buy any of it yet until I'm absolutely certain I'm good off lol
eternal cairn
So you're going to upgrade your CPU again after this build with a different processor?
fleet canopy
Nah I don't have it yet
I said it wrong, sorry about that
Everything on the list is what I will be wanting to get
CPU will be switched as soon as 4000 series come out though, so yeah
Plus I prefer buying it all in one go, for it kind of sucks having a part that'll not get used
eternal cairn
Considering your largest SSD is 500 GB, I still don't think you'll need that kind of speed and bandwidth.
eternal cairn
Oh, I misread that. LOL
vapid crypt
Lacking PCIe4 isn't gonna reduce performance outside if you want to use that level of SSD
As it is, graphics cards aren't even fully saturating the bandwidth of PCIE3x16
eternal cairn
Not even the RTX models?
fleet canopy
Yeah
eternal cairn
Yeesh, then it's definitely not worth it.
fleet canopy
I'd expect probably the next lineup of GPUs to actually use it
I was just kind of ehh since I wanted to be safe for myself haha
eternal cairn
By the time a GPU does come out that really takes advantage of 4.0, you'll probably end up upgrading your rig again.
vapid crypt
Its a matter if the graphics card needs that much bandwidth
For a while there was no issue with running PCIE3 cards in Gen 2 slots
fleet canopy
Anything about X470?
eternal cairn
But GPU stacking is pointless.
vapid crypt
Right
fleet canopy
Oh yeah plus I will eventually upgrade to Ryzen 4000, so there might be some conflicts when it comes to a CPU like maybe a 4700X
vapid crypt
That's what I'm saying, its not necessarily worth it
vapid crypt
I'm not sure about that, cause MSI's max boards
They doubled the BIOS cap on those models
So they could do it technically
eternal cairn
Is there any news on what the new Ryzen processors' specs are?
vapid crypt
Nah we might hear more about that in the Summer I would guess
Otherwise its just usual rumor
fleet canopy
I mean sure
vapid crypt
Even B350 and X370s are working with Ryzen 3000
vapid crypt
Well look at it this way
vapid crypt
You can spend less now, a Tomahawk runs you just over $100, or get X570 best case you're spending like $170 for a Asus TUF... I do think its BS that they disable overclocking features that even some of the cheapest B450 boards have access to though.
fleet canopy
Oh?
vapid crypt
"lol we're Asus, we can pay wall your ass."
fleet canopy
That's just Asus then
eternal cairn
Yeah, Asus sucks.
fleet canopy
Asus being gae
eternal cairn
The only reason I bought their motherboard is because it had all the ports I needed.
vapid crypt
Like their high end boards seem like they're perfectly fine, but they'll cut things out almost to spite anyone looking for a good value
Like hardware wise the TUF motherboard is great, but then they screw you with limited overclocking options. Like why would someone buy a flagship chipset with half assed features
fleet canopy
Plus maybe I'll have to up my fan amount a bit lmao
vapid crypt
Also B550 is sort of a thing now, as far as OEM is concerned. At least for the time being they're basically just B450 boards but with added PCIE4 to the first slot and first m.2
fleet canopy
For I see 9 fans to throw in, and I could do away with 4 for case
5 fans I guess
Unless I should add more fans for bottom case, but like that'll get anything
vapid crypt
Well what's the case in question?
vapid crypt
Oh that's right
fleet canopy
Cause a sale will just make it a nice affordable price
vapid crypt
I'm still not sure what's different from the regular Meshify C
Apart from it being longer
fleet canopy
I guess a little bit more stuff I don't know
I checked both, they had different numbers of USB ports, whatever else
Probably drives too
vapid crypt
Doesn't look all that different feature wise when I looked at it
At least not regarding the price difference
fleet canopy
Hm?
vapid crypt
vapid crypt
If there's good airflow, I don't care if its coming from the side or the front. It hasn't been shown to be any worse
But yeah its a bootleg O11 Dynamic anyway
eternal cairn
But...
vapid crypt
So its not really worth it
eternal cairn
If it's blowing from the side, how do you get decent airflow throughout the case?
fleet canopy
Use it as output I guess
Should I get myself 5 grey/tan Noctuas to hopefully lower the prices a bit, or stick with 5x25$ fans?
vapid crypt
I'm not a airflow engineer, don't ask me
fleet canopy
The side fans would seem good for AIOs I imagine
fleet canopy
Bleh
eternal cairn
Plus they're super quiet (from what I heard).
vapid crypt
Uh get Arctic's Bionix fans
fleet canopy
It does say there's 2 spots for back side of case for fans
But I only see one
Unless it's some big ass fan
vapid crypt
Wait what?
fleet canopy
Yeah
eternal cairn
Man, now I want to upgrade my case.
fleet canopy
Check the website and compare to the image
vapid crypt
For the Meshify S2?
eternal cairn
Although I would have to sacrifice the disk reader.
vapid crypt
For rear fans, it just says it supports 1
fleet canopy
Also what does CFM stand for?
eternal cairn
I use Thermaltake Riing since they actually have blue fans with blue LEDs.
vapid crypt
CFM means... Cubic Feet per Minute apparently. Referring specifically to how much air it can move
vapid crypt
More doesn't necessarily mean better, typically you want high CFM for exhaust. High Static Pressure fans for covered intake, or for heatsinks/radiators
eternal cairn
When physics make no sense to normal people...
Well, shit, I guess I need to buy new fans again.
fleet canopy
So higher for output, 50CFM for input then
vapid crypt
Oh right and regarding the Bionix fans, the P fans are best for static pressure
fleet canopy
Hm
Man, none of the P are 140mm lmao
At least it actually supports 120/140mm fans
vapid crypt
I'm seeing here the White, Red and Black and White fans are 140mm
vapid crypt
Yes
vapid crypt
vapid crypt
P120 and P140 are the model numbers
fleet canopy
Yeah
They don't really make much difference on 120 compared to 140 if I remember correctly
Because at that point, it's just preference on size
fleet canopy
Oh wow
abstract kite
This guy fucked up that build something fierce.
fleet canopy
I can't even do 1500$ for a great build including a 2070 Super and 3700X
It'll just go 2000$ maybe
Or 1700$
abstract kite
Muppy
fleet canopy
Suppy
fleet canopy
I watched it like
So many times
:)
It just makes me laugh a bit
Screw in with confidence!
Put in the brick
abstract kite
fleet canopy
Install the braces
Installs RAM at 1 and 3 slot
Fucks up the organization of cables
For benchmarking, I picked World of Warcraft. It does about 300FPS, but the reason you see 144FPS is because I limited it, as the monitor can only output 144FPS and not any higher
abstract kite
Better yet he put the PSU on wrong
abstract kite
any protips for me? I recently bought new mobo and CPU, went from amd to intel. Didnt bother to start with a fresh copy of windows. Now my games are laggy everytime I move my mouse the game freezes for the time the mouse is moved, or slowes down so the movement is stringy af
fleet canopy
Drivers
abstract kite
^
Also why did you change from AMD to Intel?
performance
AMD is currently kicking Intel
meh
not on my hardware lol
vapid crypt
Actually he installed the RAM in 2 and 3
If it were 1 and 3 that could be forgiven technically
abstract kite
I did that with my dads build and the PC itself was telling me it was wrong
I than installed in 2 and 4 kek
I would gotten one of those mem slot extenders and put 1 and 7
eternal cairn
The only difference between Intel and AMD are that AMD has started to push out more cores and threads in their processors, while Intel has higher overclocking speeds.
abstract kite
I'd prefer Core over Clocking Speeds imo
eternal cairn
Same.
cerulean goblet
Power consumption, heat generation, and (sort of) PCIe Gen Four support on X570 chipsets
sick reef
As a generic consumer, my main focus should be enough power for enough price.
brisk badger
I was thinking, when switching to AMD by the end of this year, i'll make a big family pc where we all share hardware and a hypervisor is allocating resources. I really do not see any other reason why consumer need 10+ cores in 2020
I am probably also one of the few humans that do not "render" or are a "streamer"
abstract kite
I don't stream or render.
brisk badger
We also exist
fleet canopy
I exist too O:
abstract kite
Muppy! 
fleet canopy
vapid crypt
What'd you have in mind: maybe the 3960X, 24 cores split 4 ways or something
fleet canopy
Hm
brisk badger
it's only me and my fiancΓ© so I guess something like a ratio of; 20 cores for me and 4 cores for her. And if she ever finds out about the ratio I say that I would render things. Allthough I think 16 cores are totally fine for 2 physical users to be shared but I don't have much experience with hypervisors, gpu passthrough etc.
brisk badger
a hypervisor is handling the hardware allocation and then you install virtual machines through the hypervisor. Then you can specify things such as allocating X cores to users A and y cores to user B, pass GPU x to User A, GPU y to user B and so on
imagine it as one big computer, that has multiple outputs (monitors, peripheral etc.) associated to one or multiple virtual machines. So many people can work on one machine. No thin client or any extra hardware. All is run through the central hypervisor
eternal cairn
*sits in corner with 3900x*
jade ermine
You ever get that burning need to buy a new case for absolutely no reason?
Im having it right now
fleet canopy
Sure, and you wanna put in cool shit, nice RGB, flex the GPU
jade ermine
Aaaah i have liked cosmos cases forever but they gotta be too dang expensive now
abstract kite
Trade and the Economy is slowing down due to the Coronavirus.
fleet canopy
Yeah, apparently it was AMD or NVIDIA that'll be affected
Sucks they had to eat bats but oh well
abstract kite
A lot of manufactured Computer Components are produced by China.
jade ermine
No wonder my aliexpress order has been already 1 month late
abstract kite
That seems pretty unlucky.
median moon
yeah duh
fleet canopy
Too fucking normal
lilac oar
Imagine not being on 128c256t
abstract kite
Idek what that means
fleet canopy
128 core 256 thread
abstract kite
Wouldn't that be close to a super computer?
median moon
256 core 512 thread
fleet canopy
Other side of it?
Also looks like it's broken tbh
Hopefully it's not an important cord to need
frigid niche
Yea its double sided
fleet canopy
And that's the other side?
frigid niche
Yes
fleet canopy
Huh
Well I've not seen it
before
Nor heard of it
I don't think you really need it tbh
Do you know what it came from?
brisk badger
it's probably not eSATA (because the amount pins are not the same AFAIK) but it looks like one
I can't even see if it's a L shape or not
pallid cedar
eSATA isn't L-shaped, is it?
brisk badger
They are not, but it kinda looks like the connector above is one. I would guess it some sort of proprietary connector
copper zealot
If the brass is showing, the data will keep flowing
dusty cloak
SATA3 is L shaped
sick reef
Looks kinda like a Sony Ericsson charger.
normal citrus
looks what I use to charge my juul
abstract kite
It looks like the power cable you plug into a HDD to PSU
tardy tinsel
I don't think I have seen that before
abstract kite
10
copper zealot
start cmd run as admin sfc /scannow
the latter is DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /CheckHealth
copper zealot
Hit Start > Type CmD > Click command prompt > Type "sfc /scannow"
Well right click command prompt and run as admin
then once command prompt is up you can run that and the DISM command
hit enter to run after typing
copper zealot
Yea, it should. It is checking the files of the Operating System
The DISM command does it for the Windows 10 Image as a whole not just the files
abstract kite
Should I close other applications?
abstract kite
Come on 30%
copper zealot
At the end it will give you a log location if there are errors
DISM will generally clean that up if there are
copper zealot
You can also use Crystal Disk to verify disk errors if you think your HD is going out
median moon
to open roblox fucking studio
median moon
protip, to everybody here: do not buy MSI laptops. :D
abstract kite
I thought about it...
fleet canopy
MSI sucks kind of in general
median moon
not really
copper zealot
I actually have an MSI motherboard given x570, it actually works well
median moon
their parts are cool, GPUs and mobos in particular
abstract kite
But their Mobos are pretty nice
abstract kite
@copper zealot
copper zealot
Do this one next "DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /CheckHealth"
If both those are good, your problem isnt the OS / software
Should i certify in Azure Enterprise Systems Architect or in AWS Systems Architect
abstract kite
Do I just copy that into the command prompt?
Do this one next "DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /CheckHealth"
abstract kite
copper zealot
Then your software is good
copper zealot
Hardware is left to test
like a hd diagnostic
in cmd prompt type "chkdskx: /f /r /x"
If that is good, you have no issues. Probly some weird software causing your machine havoc
abstract kite
It is
copper zealot
Are you on a solid state?
copper zealot
ok then chkdsk will do
abstract kite
copper zealot
Hit Y, when you go to sleep tonight restart the machine and let it run
copper zealot
Now help me with life choices. Which cloud variant to i want to certify as an enterprise architect? MIcrosoft or Google?
I already have their stupid base certs
abstract kite
Apollo ;-;
copper zealot
Have faith, if those commands passed, it may not even be your hard drive
it could be the power supply failing
At least your data will be safe
How often does it freeze / not start
copper zealot
That is a hard no on fried
abstract kite
When my PC boots regularly everything comes on and I hear fans come one. When my PC Fails to boot it turns on, but I hardly hear the fans. One of the fans than kicks on with what I assume is the CPU Heat Sink blowing faster than it boots.
copper zealot
Well rule of thumb for that is re-seat your connections. The lack boot on start / slow boot, means it most likely isn't getting what it needs to start
If you had a failed hard drive, it would tell you the disk isn't found or some other garbage
Also it would still pass POST aka machine checking itself out
abstract kite
So you want me to open my PC up and make sure everything is still slotting where it needs to go?
copper zealot
Not just make sure, Unplug and replug all the basics RAM / 24pin to mobo ect... don't go as far as your CPU, just the basic items that are a quick unplug and plug back in
copper zealot
It is highly unlikely to be the cpu so just re-seat everything else
abstract kite
So small and hella fragile
copper zealot
The only time i had a cpu go bad on me is a pin was bent
I found it under a magnifying glass, re-bent the pins and it came back up fine
copper zealot
NP, i actually need to get to bed. Have to wake up for a client an hour away in the morning
Feel free to PM me, i leave my machine on
abstract kite
I am gonna be on my phone...
Hope this works ^^;
You know
This only started happening to me again when the Video Errors on YouTube started happening.
tardy tinsel
If it's happened to both of us maybe it's YouTube itself
abstract kite
Its happening to Muppy too iirc
It's a YT thing right now
happening to me and Fishy too
Hoooo boy this is gonna take some time
3 hours
That sucks
tardy tinsel
Just hit the refresh, it take a second
abstract kite
But I'm an entitled Millennial.
abstract kite
@median moon I seen you.
median moon
wut
steady solar
@abstract kite that you in the reflection
abstract kite
What happens is my PC does turn on, but not enough to where my displays kick on.
steady solar
So fans and lights
abstract kite
Fans and light of all the components.
steady solar
They stay on or turn off
abstract kite
They stay on.
abstract kite
No
steady solar
GR