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abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 7:15 PM

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Me like Mallet

vapid crypt Feb 22, 2020, 7:16 PM

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Me personally I would use whichever is balanced, but most people will likely do as I said phaWesker

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 7:16 PM

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I won't do it So..

median moon Feb 22, 2020, 7:17 PM

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but.. they wouldn't, all four of those listed would have equally impactful upsides

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most damage: duhh
quickest swings: better for panic mode
most range: less time spent approaching/more spacing in combat
balance: slight upsides of all the three

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just spitballing though

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 7:19 PM

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They won’t now, maybe when we add customization

vapid crypt Feb 22, 2020, 7:19 PM

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Anyway melee stats could be implemented through future modification, for now let's get back on topic. phaSip

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 7:20 PM

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Can I have a laser sight on my Mallet?

late sorrel Feb 22, 2020, 7:30 PM

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I wanted to write a mod for Payday ages ago w/ a hammer update

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y’know, tactical hammers, Thor’s hammer, a couple of sledgehammers, ect

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as well as chucking them

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 7:33 PM

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Man this VM idea stuck with me

late sorrel Feb 22, 2020, 7:34 PM

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VMs are fun

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 7:35 PM

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yee

late sorrel Feb 22, 2020, 7:35 PM

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Tbh I’d do it, esp. in your position

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 7:35 PM

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and it saves desk space

late sorrel Feb 22, 2020, 7:35 PM

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considering you can test extremely low spec

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Without having to rely on people with dead pc’s

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 7:36 PM

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hell you could even get a raid setup going too

late sorrel Feb 22, 2020, 7:37 PM

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^

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 7:49 PM

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Raid setup btw?

I’m thinking, threadripper, 128gb ram, 4xgpu with PCI pass through.

median moon Feb 22, 2020, 7:54 PM

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128gb ram, 4xgpu

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bro

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are you trying to create a Dragon Ball or smth

vapid crypt Feb 22, 2020, 7:58 PM

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Don't be silly, Dragon Balls are created through Namekian Magic phaSip

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 8:06 PM

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Haha, hard to play without a gpu thou :0

vapid crypt Feb 22, 2020, 8:07 PM

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Its pretty crazy, you can play Crysis on Software rendering using just the 3990x

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 8:13 PM

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True, looks like crap tho

vapid crypt Feb 22, 2020, 8:13 PM

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Yeah you can only do so much, it took 13 years but that's pretty cool

regal laurel Feb 22, 2020, 8:15 PM

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Could you buy, let's say a 1TB pcie 4.0 ssd, split it into 8x128gb for 8 VMs

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and have a windows installation on each?

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 8:18 PM

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people are somehow still ignorant of the fact that Crisis 3 literally only takes advantage of 1 core (last I checked) and is poorly optimized for modern hardware

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5 years from now powerful cards will still be running it like crap or so atleast way worse than you'd expect it to

regal laurel Feb 22, 2020, 8:19 PM

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people at the time only had 4 cores tho

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 8:19 PM

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i mean like i don't think the original game even fully utilized 2 threads

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and I know dual and quad core was the norm at the time, that's why I'm saying how it runs like crap today

brisk badger Feb 22, 2020, 8:21 PM

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many games today still run on one thread. mostly this is due to the used programming language and /or budget/time

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 8:21 PM

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in recent years some games have been taking advantage of up to 4 cores

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although of course this mainly involves physics based games

brisk badger Feb 22, 2020, 8:22 PM

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yes but it is still not common. has pros and cons

regal laurel Feb 22, 2020, 8:22 PM

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Id say that crysis was mainly targeted to run 1440p60 on high end gpus

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don't think you'd be cpu limited at that point

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 8:25 PM

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even today though a 2080 ti 1440p only runs it like 60's and can dip down to low 40's, that's awful for a card of that tier

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although the devs at the time used a lot of methods that were way ahead of the hardware they had at the time

regal laurel Feb 22, 2020, 8:29 PM

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in a review the hd 7990 and gtx 690 get 65fps on "high" settings 1440p

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max details is "very high" i think

fleet canopy Feb 22, 2020, 8:32 PM

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Hm

regal laurel Feb 22, 2020, 8:32 PM

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hm, I'd also claim that the setting steps might be rather large

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iirc I was able to run all low 1080p at like 200fps in multiplayer, while ppl get 40fps at 4k with titan sli or so

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very scalable, very top heavy

median moon Feb 22, 2020, 8:35 PM

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4x TITAN RTX SLI

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😳

regal laurel Feb 22, 2020, 8:36 PM

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the original titan cards I meant

vapid crypt Feb 22, 2020, 8:36 PM

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They killed SLI for NVLink didn't they, and you can't go beyond 2 right?

regal laurel Feb 22, 2020, 8:37 PM

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never seen any 3x or 4x nvlink bridges, so i'd say yea

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but not like it ever was a great idea to go over 2 cards

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usually only like +30%

median moon Feb 22, 2020, 8:39 PM

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imagine though

vapid crypt Feb 22, 2020, 8:39 PM

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It'd be better to bring back dual GPUs on one card again

regal laurel Feb 22, 2020, 8:40 PM

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mmh

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powerdelivery and cooling solutions were always pretty meh on those

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plus they're usually double the price + extra anyways, so in no way really better than two seperate cards

vapid crypt Feb 22, 2020, 8:41 PM

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Well yeah... I dunno what they were thinking with those cards when it came to cooling

regal laurel Feb 22, 2020, 8:42 PM

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they should definitely try to do some scaleable gpus tho or how u'd call that

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i guess what intel is trying atm

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 8:42 PM

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remember the days when having sli/crossfire was cool

regal laurel Feb 22, 2020, 8:42 PM

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many chips but they're seen as one

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on a 7990 for example you'd still have some games were one core wouldn't be utilized

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still effectively seen as 2 gpus

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if they were to release a RTX 2090, it'd either be heavily downclocked like the titan Z? or whatever it was, or watercooled. And either way like 2500$ and only give you +60% performance or so

median moon Feb 22, 2020, 8:45 PM

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2090 would probably be 2080Ti price

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assuming they come out post ampere

vapid crypt Feb 22, 2020, 8:45 PM

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2090... sounds better than 2080ti Super phaWesker

regal laurel Feb 22, 2020, 8:46 PM

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they likely wound't launch it after the next gen comes out...

median moon Feb 22, 2020, 8:47 PM

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well they sure as hell aren't gonna launch it now

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Supers are already out and Ampere is almost dropped

vapid crypt Feb 22, 2020, 8:47 PM

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Especially now they're making special edition versions of it

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 8:47 PM

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ampere likely won't be out until q3

median moon Feb 22, 2020, 8:47 PM

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cyberpunk 2077 2080ti

regal laurel Feb 22, 2020, 8:47 PM

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yeah ampere's not quite here yet :p

median moon Feb 22, 2020, 8:47 PM

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that's my point

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it's coming soon, so the theoretical 2090 definitely isn't

vapid crypt Feb 22, 2020, 8:48 PM

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Might hear something about the architecture next month, but likely won't release til ~Summer

median moon Feb 22, 2020, 8:48 PM

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that's... my point

vapid crypt Feb 22, 2020, 8:48 PM

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At the earliest at that

median moon Feb 22, 2020, 8:48 PM

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by "almost here" i mean by this year

regal laurel Feb 22, 2020, 8:48 PM

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and I was kinda making a point about how there was Not going to be a dual 2080ti card.... and since there currently isn't an annoucnement for that, yes, it likely isn't happening

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since dual gpus have never worked out that great, are expensive as hell and worse than 2 seperate cards

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they are however more space efficient

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so if you're some random game developper and want to build a 64core system with 4 gpus in a mini ITX case... .-.

vapid crypt Feb 22, 2020, 8:51 PM

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What kind of mini ITX case could fit two cards like that?

regal laurel Feb 22, 2020, 8:52 PM

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you could put single slot waterblocks on them

vapid crypt Feb 22, 2020, 8:52 PM

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phaSheva

regal laurel Feb 22, 2020, 8:52 PM

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which would give you 1 card per slot = 2 cards at the size of a regular 2 slot card

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 8:56 PM

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Hey guys

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I got an IBM typewriter

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for free

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ripped the keeb out

regal laurel Feb 22, 2020, 8:57 PM

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kinda hard to find a picture for that but this should make the point: https://pro2-bar-s3-cdn-cf1.myportfolio.com/9f6b1d9487f45e847f468af58b7d5272/c625d38c-7bd2-4e7c-8169-0b4483290d89_rw_1920.jpg

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@ quad gpu build

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 8:57 PM

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Holy fuck its nasty
genuine ibm bucklesprings

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dirt and grim dating 1985

vapid crypt Feb 22, 2020, 8:58 PM

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Yeah... that'll do it

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 8:58 PM

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Boutta take a toothbrush soaked in isopropyl to this

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Any ideas what I should do with it when I’m done?

regal laurel Feb 22, 2020, 8:59 PM

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put it into a display case?

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 8:59 PM

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Probably gonna do that

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Was thinking about making a keeb out of this

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but that idea quickly went out the door

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The keys are cleaning up nicely though

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umbral arch Feb 22, 2020, 9:08 PM

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what the fuck is the "store" key?

void perch Feb 22, 2020, 9:09 PM

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you press it and get either doritos or chetos and mt dew

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 9:41 PM

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Cleaning up okay

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@umbral arch Its an old typewriter board

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Off of one of these (not mine)

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umbral arch Feb 22, 2020, 9:44 PM

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ok

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makes sense now

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 10:17 PM

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waiting on keys to dry

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just scrubbed the f out of them

tardy tinsel Feb 22, 2020, 10:30 PM

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@umbral arch your profile pic. I can't look at link the same anymore

umbral arch Feb 22, 2020, 10:31 PM

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no problem

mystic ingot Feb 22, 2020, 10:33 PM

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We live in a society. PepeHands

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@abstract kite That's pretty rad. Where'd you get that at?

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 10:43 PM

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@mystic ingot Was working at a tech event + tech flea market today

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Man hadn’t sold the typewriter by the time it ended so he just gave it to me

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The rest of the machine was unimportant to me

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so I pulled the keyboard

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 11:29 PM

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📎 image0.jpg

tardy tinsel Feb 22, 2020, 11:30 PM

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I rather just buy a keyboard. It doesn't cost much

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 11:30 PM

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tardy tinsel Feb 22, 2020, 11:31 PM

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That mechanical sound with every press

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 11:32 PM

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buckle springs boi

tardy tinsel Feb 22, 2020, 11:33 PM

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Imagine someone typing fast with both hands

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 11:33 PM

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I can arrange that

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https://youtu.be/1cfKc8U4iwg
related to #pc-build-help-and-tech-talk ?

tardy tinsel Feb 22, 2020, 11:38 PM

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Nice, that was funny

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 11:39 PM

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Apologies for the red ass hands. Been washing them a lot since this was NASTY.

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I’m fumbling hard on this. These are taking some time to get used to

tardy tinsel Feb 22, 2020, 11:42 PM

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That clicking sounds followed by Springs recoiling back

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👌

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 11:43 PM

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Aye

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Idk what to do with it now lol

fleet canopy Feb 22, 2020, 11:45 PM

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Hm

urban gulch Feb 22, 2020, 11:45 PM

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clean it again cause your fingers were on it

tardy tinsel Feb 22, 2020, 11:46 PM

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you did remove it from the typewriter for a reason

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 11:47 PM

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Was thinking about making it a working keeb

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Just after cracking it open realized yea thats not gonna be in my expertise

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Is it possible? with a lot of custom work yea

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but I dont have that skillset

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Might just resell it online or put it on display or something

abstract kite Feb 23, 2020, 12:59 AM

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This is fine right?

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late sorrel Feb 23, 2020, 1:19 AM

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yeah

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Bit toasty, but that’s okay

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I think it starts getting “too hot” at 90?

vapid crypt Feb 23, 2020, 1:20 AM

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I think calling sub 70c temps for a air cooled gpu toasty is setting the bar a little high PirateSimon

late sorrel Feb 23, 2020, 1:20 AM

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tru

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that’s pretty general usage

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It’s what I get when I game

whole falcon Feb 23, 2020, 3:40 AM

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@dense wasp From a cost-benefit perspective, it definitely makes sense to go with a VM build that is 100% scalable for testing. I highly recommend it in my professional opinion.

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Plus, I'd be willing to help troubleshoot, if necessary, in my free time. I love what y'all are doing.

kindred fiber Feb 23, 2020, 3:43 AM

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Hey guys! I want to ask
Which VGA should i go with a 2k monitor ? I mean Samsung 27inch 2k 144hz Monitor
Is 2060 good enough? Games like Resident Evil 7,CSGO,OW
Budget:below 500$

whole falcon Feb 23, 2020, 3:45 AM

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Hmm, for 2k, you'll have a better time with a 2060 Super; if you don't care about ray tracing, the 5700 XT is solid as long as you don't get ASUS ROG (they didn't do a great job manufacturing them this time).

eager roost Feb 23, 2020, 4:20 AM

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What's the minimum amount I might need to spend to play gtfo?

whole falcon Feb 23, 2020, 4:20 AM

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Depends on what you already have

vapid crypt Feb 23, 2020, 4:20 AM

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If you're willing to buy used, you could get pretty low considering the game was optimized on 5 year old hardware

late sorrel Feb 23, 2020, 4:46 AM

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I know it runs on an i2

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don't remember what gpu they used though

abstract kite Feb 23, 2020, 4:46 AM

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i2?!

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6004_gasp

late sorrel Feb 23, 2020, 4:49 AM

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yeah

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the core 2 duo

abstract kite Feb 23, 2020, 4:53 AM

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They are using subpar machinery to create a game that is borderline by the tiniest of hairs Triple A with i2 processors?

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That's painful

late sorrel Feb 23, 2020, 5:02 AM

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wdym painful

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The game gtfo runs on an i2 @ 720p

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that's not how they make it

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it's a 3570 or something

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I think their specs roughtly equates to an 2600 & a RX570

vapid crypt Feb 23, 2020, 5:09 AM

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4th gen i7s and GTX 970s

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So roughly similar, sure

strong whale Feb 23, 2020, 5:43 AM

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So it took 15 hours to do a full format of my new hard drive lmao, fortunately no bad sectors

lament fiber Feb 23, 2020, 6:07 AM

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So I have a painful question to ask about. Anyone know what would be good settings to start OC/ fine tuning a Ryzen 5700 flashed with XT bios would be? I'm using MSI afterburner and I do not have Adrenalin installed.

eager roost Feb 23, 2020, 7:07 AM

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Would it run well on a i7-8565u with a GTX 1050ti maxq?

late sorrel Feb 23, 2020, 7:07 AM

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probably

eager roost Feb 23, 2020, 7:07 AM

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Aight

jade ermine Feb 23, 2020, 7:24 AM

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@abstract kite That sounds absolutely glorious

wheat magnet Feb 23, 2020, 10:14 AM

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Tinted refers to my pc, which is indeed a i2 and I have a GT730 as my GPU. It runs the game with of course all things turned to lowest at 720p at 34-35 FPS really stable

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If my pc can run GTFO, I'm positive almost anyone's can

tardy void Feb 23, 2020, 11:38 AM

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can the game run on RX 5500XT ryzen 7 3600?

dense wasp Feb 23, 2020, 12:04 PM

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Should be just fine with that @tardy void

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Ain’t that the truth @wheat magnet 😂

wheat magnet Feb 23, 2020, 12:06 PM

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Be proud ludvig, you guys optimized the game so good that even my war toaster can carry it

dusty cloak Feb 23, 2020, 2:50 PM

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i can run game average 50-60 fps on highest settings on a gtx 780, you'll be oki

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upgrading this week tho #:)

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3:) *

fleet canopy Feb 23, 2020, 2:53 PM

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To what?

dusty cloak Feb 23, 2020, 2:53 PM

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5700xt

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big jump!!

fleet canopy Feb 23, 2020, 2:53 PM

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Haha, pretty nice

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I hope the drivers don't fuck you over though

dusty cloak Feb 23, 2020, 2:53 PM

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yee just waiting for my pay to come thru ;-;

fleet canopy Feb 23, 2020, 2:53 PM

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Drivers are shit

dusty cloak Feb 23, 2020, 2:53 PM

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yeah i have a friend with one that works well so he can help me out if i get stuck

fleet canopy Feb 23, 2020, 2:53 PM

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Ah alright

dusty cloak Feb 23, 2020, 2:54 PM

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yeee keen to be able to actually play games well now 0:)

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and im upgrading all my other stuff next fortnight

fleet canopy Feb 23, 2020, 2:55 PM

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That's pretty neat

vapid crypt Feb 23, 2020, 2:55 PM

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I don't think I've seen anyone actually use the term Fortnight online before PirateSimon

fleet canopy Feb 23, 2020, 2:55 PM

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Haha

dusty cloak Feb 23, 2020, 2:55 PM

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wdym

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did i do something wrong

fleet canopy Feb 23, 2020, 2:55 PM

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Me neither, fortnight is such a rarely said word

vapid crypt Feb 23, 2020, 2:55 PM

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No not at all

fleet canopy Feb 23, 2020, 2:55 PM

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Nah you didn't

dusty cloak Feb 23, 2020, 2:56 PM

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t(<.<)t

vapid crypt Feb 23, 2020, 2:56 PM

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Its just a rarely used term

fleet canopy Feb 23, 2020, 2:56 PM

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Haven't seen the word since 2019

dusty cloak Feb 23, 2020, 2:56 PM

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oovt

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im getting r5 3600, b450 tomahawk and 16gb ram

vapid crypt Feb 23, 2020, 2:57 PM

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The uh Tomahawk Max right, those have the updated Bios

dusty cloak Feb 23, 2020, 3:20 PM

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oh deadass?

regal laurel Feb 23, 2020, 3:20 PM

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Mh, so the regular b450 tomahawk needs a bios flash with a 1-2nd gen cpu to accept 3rd gen, while the b450 tomahawk max already has the updated bios?

dusty cloak Feb 23, 2020, 3:22 PM

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guess im getting b450 max

fleet canopy Feb 23, 2020, 3:23 PM

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Yeah the Max has updated bios

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That's the only line I know has it

dusty cloak Feb 23, 2020, 3:23 PM

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and its cheaper

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is it micro atx or

fleet canopy Feb 23, 2020, 3:23 PM

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There's also the X550AM?

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B550

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Uhh

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It's got a fair bit more than the B450, but I'm pretty sure it'll automatically support Ryzen 3000

vapid crypt Feb 23, 2020, 3:25 PM

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Which board are you looking at?

regal laurel Feb 23, 2020, 3:25 PM

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b550 boards are out now?

vapid crypt Feb 23, 2020, 3:25 PM

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MSI made a bunch of different Max boards

fleet canopy Feb 23, 2020, 3:25 PM

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If it's not out, wait for it I guess

vapid crypt Feb 23, 2020, 3:25 PM

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Nah B550 isn't out

regal laurel Feb 23, 2020, 3:25 PM

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oh, or is that this "not actual b550" thingy they're doing

dusty cloak Feb 23, 2020, 3:25 PM

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eh i'll prob just get b450 max

fleet canopy Feb 23, 2020, 3:26 PM

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Not yet out

vapid crypt Feb 23, 2020, 3:26 PM

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At this point they might release it alongside Zen 3

dusty cloak Feb 23, 2020, 3:26 PM

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b450 max is out

fleet canopy Feb 23, 2020, 3:26 PM

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Sounds fair I guess

dusty cloak Feb 23, 2020, 3:26 PM

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unless u talking someone else

fleet canopy Feb 23, 2020, 3:26 PM

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B550

regal laurel Feb 23, 2020, 3:26 PM

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ye they were saying b550 not out yet

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3600 + b450 tomahawk max seems the go to choice atm

fleet canopy Feb 23, 2020, 3:27 PM

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Yeah

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If you don't need PCIe 4 support, go ahead

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Only reason for those are M.2 drives, while still having full capability of rest of specs I think

vapid crypt Feb 23, 2020, 3:28 PM

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The A-Pro Max isn't a bad choice if you really need to save that cash phaWesker

regal laurel Feb 23, 2020, 3:28 PM

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do gen 4 drives have any new tech btw? or just unreasonable faster sequential speeds

fleet canopy Feb 23, 2020, 3:29 PM

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Gen 4 drives?

vapid crypt Feb 23, 2020, 3:29 PM

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I'm not aware of any new tech

fleet canopy Feb 23, 2020, 3:29 PM

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I heard of it

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But uhhh

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No idea what

vapid crypt Feb 23, 2020, 3:29 PM

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Just the higher bandwidth and faster speeds

fleet canopy Feb 23, 2020, 3:29 PM

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Not too much better then?

regal laurel Feb 23, 2020, 3:29 PM

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alright, so like no reason to get one

fleet canopy Feb 23, 2020, 3:29 PM

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Yeah lol

vapid crypt Feb 23, 2020, 3:30 PM

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Uh... probably not

regal laurel Feb 23, 2020, 3:30 PM

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since sata ssds to nvme isn't even that noticible

vapid crypt Feb 23, 2020, 3:30 PM

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Depends on your use case

regal laurel Feb 23, 2020, 3:30 PM

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optane also not really

fleet canopy Feb 23, 2020, 3:30 PM

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When is Zen 3 supposed to release?

vapid crypt Feb 23, 2020, 3:30 PM

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Dunno, likely Q3

regal laurel Feb 23, 2020, 3:30 PM

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hmm

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I think their CEO or what she is confirmed it'd come this year

fleet canopy Feb 23, 2020, 3:31 PM

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CEO yeah

regal laurel Feb 23, 2020, 3:31 PM

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so I guess there was the possibility for it to only come next year

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aka likely earliest Q3, likely Q4

abstract kite Feb 23, 2020, 3:32 PM

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What's Zen 4?

fleet canopy Feb 23, 2020, 3:32 PM

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What's Zen 5?

abstract kite Feb 23, 2020, 3:32 PM

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New Processors?

regal laurel Feb 23, 2020, 3:32 PM

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yup

fleet canopy Feb 23, 2020, 3:32 PM

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I think so

regal laurel Feb 23, 2020, 3:32 PM

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but zen 3 is the architecture for ryzen 4000 series

fleet canopy Feb 23, 2020, 3:32 PM

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Zen 3???/

regal laurel Feb 23, 2020, 3:32 PM

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zen 4 is like 2022 stuff

fleet canopy Feb 23, 2020, 3:32 PM

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Zen 4 release rumor is actually 2021

abstract kite Feb 23, 2020, 3:33 PM

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I heard 2022

fleet canopy Feb 23, 2020, 3:33 PM

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I just saw 2021

regal laurel Feb 23, 2020, 3:33 PM

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oh, that's how rumors are made 😄

fleet canopy Feb 23, 2020, 3:33 PM

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Article was made Jan 6 2020

regal laurel Feb 23, 2020, 3:34 PM

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but yeah, let's see how 4000 series go first

fleet canopy Feb 23, 2020, 3:34 PM

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I hope it's really worth it

regal laurel Feb 23, 2020, 3:34 PM

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and maaaaybe, intel releases full baller new 10nm cpus 6ghz clock so zen 4 becomes irelevant? ~~~

fleet canopy Feb 23, 2020, 3:34 PM

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Zen 4 will be revelant

vapid crypt Feb 23, 2020, 3:34 PM

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6ghz phaLeon

abstract kite Feb 23, 2020, 3:34 PM

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I don't plan on upgrading my rig... I want a 4k Ultrawide Monitor, but that is about it.

fleet canopy Feb 23, 2020, 3:35 PM

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They're superior on core amount lol

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4990X will be really damn good

vapid crypt Feb 23, 2020, 3:35 PM

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I'm sure Alder Lake will just barely hit 5 PirateSimon

fleet canopy Feb 23, 2020, 3:35 PM

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I just gotta get my 1440p 144hz, and the whole PC to be upgraded besides GPU and CPU cooler

regal laurel Feb 23, 2020, 3:36 PM

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that only matters to selective people tho... not sure how u see it, but which gamer will think they need more than 12 threads in the next 4 years? i think ppl are just gonna stick with the ryzen 5s

fleet canopy Feb 23, 2020, 3:36 PM

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Gamers will though

abstract kite Feb 23, 2020, 3:36 PM

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Will a 5700XT do good on a 4k Monitor?

fleet canopy Feb 23, 2020, 3:36 PM

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As they stream GWchinaSakuraThinking

abstract kite Feb 23, 2020, 3:36 PM

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It has 3 DP, 1 HDMI

fleet canopy Feb 23, 2020, 3:36 PM

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45Hz medium

vapid crypt Feb 23, 2020, 3:37 PM

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Uh yeah it works well for 4k just don't expect high refresh in the latest titles

fleet canopy Feb 23, 2020, 3:37 PM

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Nvidia's GeForce RTX 2070 Super. That GeForce RTX 2070 Super is also worth considering for 4K gaming if you don't have $700+ to spare on an RTX 2080 Super. The lower-priced sibling can also hit 60 fps at 4K resolution, though you will need to drop down graphics settings to High to achieve that frame rate.

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Hm

regal laurel Feb 23, 2020, 3:38 PM

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that's a quote ig?

vapid crypt Feb 23, 2020, 3:38 PM

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Coreteks did some testing on the 5700XT at 4k if you're interested

fleet canopy Feb 23, 2020, 3:38 PM

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I guess it's the increase in the 3d graphics?

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After all, NVIDIA does 3D extremely well

regal laurel Feb 23, 2020, 3:40 PM

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humans can't even see 3D cause they only have 2 eye balls

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x_x

abstract kite Feb 23, 2020, 3:40 PM

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I do want Nvidia cards, but the 2070 Super plus the 4k Ultrawide Monitor I am looking at is going to cone close to $900 all together T-T

regal laurel Feb 23, 2020, 3:40 PM

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guess what, high resolution gaming is expensive

fleet canopy Feb 23, 2020, 3:40 PM

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1440p is

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1440p 144hz is expensive enough lol

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4K fuck no

abstract kite Feb 23, 2020, 3:41 PM

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Why no?

fleet canopy Feb 23, 2020, 3:41 PM

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Too expensive, quite demanding

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Uhh

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Yeah

vapid crypt Feb 23, 2020, 3:41 PM

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Look at the numbers at 4k for the 5700 XT, it isn't bad

abstract kite Feb 23, 2020, 3:41 PM

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Idk what they mean...

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Hertz, Refresh Rate.

vapid crypt Feb 23, 2020, 3:42 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8X9pVIBlmY

abstract kite Feb 23, 2020, 3:42 PM

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Lemme take a look.

regal laurel Feb 23, 2020, 3:42 PM

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raw pixel through put 1440p144 is quite compareable to 2160p60

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that meaning 1440p144 is ~6% more pixels

fleet canopy Feb 23, 2020, 3:44 PM

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How does hertz count for pixels GWmythicalThonkCool

vapid crypt Feb 23, 2020, 3:44 PM

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Though considering Ultrawide, that might be a different beast altogether

sick reef Feb 23, 2020, 3:48 PM

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Hertz is accounted for in pixels per second.

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In a card it would be referenced as bitrate, bits per second. Pixels being an amount of bits

regal laurel Feb 23, 2020, 3:55 PM

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just saying 2560x1440 x 144 = pixels per second, then whatever bitrate you need = bandwidth

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rough estimate for how much horsepower you need for that, obviously there usually is more overhead when going to a higher res

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before the newer displayport standards 1440p wasn't doable simply bandwidth wise for example

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dvi-d can only do 1080p144 or 1440p60 etc.

fleet canopy Feb 23, 2020, 3:59 PM

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Oh?

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Wait yeah I do know that

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But I mean just by how does 144hz increase pixels GWmythicalThonkCool

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Unless I am reading it wrong from "raw pixel through put 1440p144 is quite compareable to 2160p60"

regal laurel Feb 23, 2020, 4:00 PM

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well you're not just rendering 1 frame per second

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so if you wanna show double the images per second, you also need double the power

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not talking about one frame, but frames per second, not one 2560x1440p image per second, but 144 of them

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aka pixels per second

vapid crypt Feb 23, 2020, 4:05 PM

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So 144 frames at 2560x1440 compared to 60 frames at 3840x2160 is roughly comparable when it comes to pixels per second phaSheva

sick reef Feb 23, 2020, 4:05 PM

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It's quite easy to do the math.

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If they are to be somewhat equal.

thorn geode Feb 23, 2020, 4:07 PM

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does anyone know how to fix a jsonReader error

sick reef Feb 23, 2020, 4:07 PM

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HDMI 2.0 also being able to run 4K60Hz with 24bit.

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Since 2013 according to wikipedia.

thorn geode Feb 23, 2020, 4:08 PM

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im trying to play escape from tarkov and it just showed up randomly

sick reef Feb 23, 2020, 4:08 PM

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Escape from Tarkov is buggy as all hell, so good luck.

thorn geode Feb 23, 2020, 4:08 PM

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i know but it has worked fine for months

sick reef Feb 23, 2020, 4:09 PM

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And displayport 1.3 was 2014, though more common I guess is 1.4, from 2016.

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1.2 had similar bandwith, albeit very slightly lower, than HDMI 2.0, and was 2010.

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monakHmm

abstract kite Feb 23, 2020, 4:39 PM

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@vapid crypt I watched the video and seems 4k wouldn't be to too bad, but defiantly with limitations regarding FPS. The games that were benchmarked other than 1 was running above 55 FPS which imo is still really nice comparing to what had before.

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As long as I'm not shuddering at 30 and below FPS I think that it would still be a good buy.

vapid crypt Feb 23, 2020, 5:15 PM

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Well keep in mind that's at Ultra settings

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Step everything down a bit, and you'll see largely better framerates

fleet canopy Feb 23, 2020, 5:28 PM

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Yeah

regal laurel Feb 23, 2020, 6:07 PM

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Hm, also, @abstract kite , you were wondering about watercooling yesterday iirc. It wasn't quite clear what you're looking for at the time. Now that you say you're looking into getting a 2070S and a 4k monitor I'd say you should probably not worry about watercooling :p just get one of those big aircoolers for your cpu and leave the rest on it's stock cooling capabilities.

abstract kite Feb 23, 2020, 6:10 PM

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Would you recommend 140 or 120mm fans?

regal laurel Feb 23, 2020, 6:12 PM

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For reference, and this is only my assessment:
CPU Watercooling: For very high core count cpus, or for achieving the maximum overclock, or for people who like pretty setups (1500$+ setups)
GPU watercooling: For achieving the maximum overclock on top end cards, or for ppl who like pretty setups (2500$+ setups)
VRM and RAM water cooling: For ppl who just want to run everything balls to the wall, or for ppl who like pretty setups (3500$+ setups)

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140s can push the same amount of air volume at lower rpm, thus creatingless noise

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if you can fit 140s it's usually the better choice

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the current best noise to performance ratio have the Noctua A12x25s afaik, those are 120mm only tho

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and cost like 35$ a pop

abstract kite Feb 23, 2020, 6:15 PM

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Honestly $35 isn't that bad.

regal laurel Feb 23, 2020, 6:17 PM

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hmm, depends on how many you need :x

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for example I wanted to add another 3 fans to my 360 radiator

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going with those it'd be ~140$ for the base cooler and then +105$ for 3 extra fans

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if you buy a case for 100$ that comes with 2-4 crappy fans and you want to exchange them for noctua's you're doubling the price

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Those fans however will most likely hold up a while, so they might be worth the investment either way

abstract kite Feb 23, 2020, 6:19 PM

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Well if you cheap out on proper cooling you risk destroying your build.

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Air must flow properly.

regal laurel Feb 23, 2020, 6:20 PM

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I think "risk destroying your build" is a bit far fetched

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if a fan stops working it's just gonna give oyu higher temperatures

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it's not gonna kill anything

abstract kite Feb 23, 2020, 6:21 PM

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Well thermal damage is nothing to scoff at. The prospect is always there.

regal laurel Feb 23, 2020, 6:21 PM

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I'd say you'd be pretty safe by checking whether the fans still turn every couple of days

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and if the chip gets too hot it'll downclock or shut the system down before it takes damage

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at which point you'd be wondering what's wrong, and check the system

late sorrel Feb 23, 2020, 6:23 PM

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lol I have three fans in my pc

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one is at least 10 years old

abstract kite Feb 23, 2020, 6:24 PM

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Well that is your opinion I appreciate it, but I personally would like to make sure my system is cool without it having to shut down because to much heat.

regal laurel Feb 23, 2020, 6:25 PM

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fair enough :3 maybe those noctua fans are just the right ones for you then

abstract kite Feb 23, 2020, 6:27 PM

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I'm surprised I've managed to build two systems...

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Honestly before my first build I was going to buy a $2.2k pre-built rig lol

void perch Feb 23, 2020, 8:34 PM

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Who else enjoys transferring 300 GB worth of data across the internet?

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late sorrel Feb 23, 2020, 8:35 PM

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eouf

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how about your tv transferring 1.6 gig of data despite not even opening any apps on it

void perch Feb 23, 2020, 8:36 PM

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it's just updating...

late sorrel Feb 23, 2020, 8:36 PM

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your old tv that had internet 1 day ago

void perch Feb 23, 2020, 8:36 PM

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But for me, I'm replicating my entire database which is hosted by google cloud to my local server, and keeping them insync

late sorrel Feb 23, 2020, 8:37 PM

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nice

void perch Feb 23, 2020, 8:37 PM

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then i promote the replication DB to master and demote the other one, and then tell everything to connect to the new db

late sorrel Feb 23, 2020, 8:37 PM

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Im setting up my raspi to do some game servers and stuff

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That’s much cooler though

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setting it to 192.168.1.169

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comedy zone has been entered

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see? guys it’s the funny number

void perch Feb 23, 2020, 8:41 PM

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lol

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Memory usage on my new DB server during that. Might need to increase the 16 GB cap

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Disk usage

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late sorrel Feb 23, 2020, 8:44 PM

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spikey

void perch Feb 23, 2020, 8:45 PM

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Network

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CPU.. barely touched

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void perch Feb 23, 2020, 10:36 PM

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@late sorrel 2 hours later it finished syncing

fleet canopy Feb 23, 2020, 10:40 PM

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Hm

late sorrel Feb 23, 2020, 10:40 PM

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lmao

abstract kite Feb 23, 2020, 11:05 PM

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@jade ermine Thanks!

trail laurel Feb 23, 2020, 11:34 PM

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these are the specs on my 6k metabox gaming laptop

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late sorrel Feb 23, 2020, 11:35 PM

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eew, speccy

fleet canopy Feb 23, 2020, 11:35 PM

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i9 kaby lake?

void perch Feb 23, 2020, 11:35 PM

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ooh nice

fleet canopy Feb 23, 2020, 11:35 PM

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Yeah wtf i9 Kaby lake?

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Oh hm

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Oh ok

vapid crypt Feb 23, 2020, 11:41 PM

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Either Speccy is dumb and Kaby Lake is wrong or because its a laptop maybe they were using that for the chips at the time

fleet canopy Feb 23, 2020, 11:41 PM

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There are i9 like 7980K/X

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I think

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Or 7940

vapid crypt Feb 23, 2020, 11:42 PM

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Did they make high end laptop chips then? phaWesker

fleet canopy Feb 23, 2020, 11:43 PM

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Not really sure, but I mean

late sorrel Feb 23, 2020, 11:43 PM

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speccy is automatically dumb though

vapid crypt Feb 23, 2020, 11:43 PM

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Sure

fleet canopy Feb 23, 2020, 11:43 PM

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Speccy isn't dumb

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It's just fucking shit at telling you what it is

vapid crypt Feb 23, 2020, 11:44 PM

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I can't find any Kaby Lake mobile chip that would be an i9

fleet canopy Feb 23, 2020, 11:44 PM

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7940X

vapid crypt Feb 23, 2020, 11:44 PM

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Mobile chip

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That's a desktop chip

fleet canopy Feb 23, 2020, 11:44 PM

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Ah yes

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Probably decided "Fuck it, we'll use a desktop CPU on it"

vapid crypt Feb 23, 2020, 11:47 PM

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Okay so if its base frequency is 2.4ghz then its a 9980HK

bold vigil Feb 24, 2020, 2:05 AM

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Hey, i've been having pc crashes for the alst 2 3 days and i'd like to have some help here, i know nothing much on this, so first i got 2 BSOD with the code : Attempted Execute of Noexecute Memory , and then 2 other crashes where the pc completly freezes and the sound goes wild, after that i need to restart it myself and when he's rebooting it takes like 2 3 times to full boot. i've tried all these methods https://www.drivereasy.com/knowledge/attempted-execute-noexecute-memory-windows-fixed/ and nothing's detected. hope im not in the wrong chanel but i need to figure this out can't afford another pc sardPalm if anyone knows bout this kinda stuff

vapid crypt Feb 24, 2020, 2:09 AM

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So what kind of pc do you have, is it desktop or laptop. And can you give us the specifications?

bold vigil Feb 24, 2020, 2:16 AM

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desktop and Intel i 5 4690k
Zotac Geforce Gtx 1060 6Gb
16Gb de RAM
Windows 10 64b
motherboard : asrock b85 pro 4
Windows on SSD and the rest on HDD.

vapid crypt Feb 24, 2020, 2:22 AM

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Do these crashes happen during anything in particular?

bold vigil Feb 24, 2020, 2:23 AM

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i mean 3 of 4 during games

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one crash with BSOD during dying light

vapid crypt Feb 24, 2020, 2:23 AM

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The others was the freezing?

bold vigil Feb 24, 2020, 2:23 AM

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another BSOD while running minecraft and another game

vapid crypt Feb 24, 2020, 2:23 AM

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All the same stop code?

bold vigil Feb 24, 2020, 2:23 AM

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yeah happened like 20 mintues ago

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whiule playing trackmania stadium

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pcq froze , engine sound going crazy

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pc*

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engine of cars from the game*

vapid crypt Feb 24, 2020, 2:24 AM

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Uh get this program called bluescreenview, it will list recent blue screens and which processes were the cause of them

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That last thing sounds like maybe its a graphics driver issue, but I can't be certain

bold vigil Feb 24, 2020, 2:25 AM

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i'm sure i downloaded the lastest GPU driver tho , on geforce experience

vapid crypt Feb 24, 2020, 2:26 AM

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Yeah but maybe its a faulty driver install, or that game has an issue with that driver. In any case let's figure out what could be causing the blue screens

bold vigil Feb 24, 2020, 2:27 AM

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yeah maybe was dying light idk , i tried it while it was free week end and it as my first ever BSOD

vapid crypt Feb 24, 2020, 2:28 AM

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https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/blue_screen_view.html

bold vigil Feb 24, 2020, 2:29 AM

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what do i do now with it ?

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vapid crypt Feb 24, 2020, 2:30 AM

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Huh odd

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No dump files

bold vigil Feb 24, 2020, 2:31 AM

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i mean if i have the software before any crashes happen it seems legit , except if it is supposed to gather previous crashes

vapid crypt Feb 24, 2020, 2:31 AM

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I still have one from a month ago, random blue screen when I went to shutdown phaWesker

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Its pulling from a folder that has all the blue screen dump files in there, or at least it should be

bold vigil Feb 24, 2020, 2:33 AM

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i see

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but nothing for me

vapid crypt Feb 24, 2020, 2:34 AM

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When did you update the graphics driver?

fleet canopy Feb 24, 2020, 2:35 AM

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If so, you can go to the previous driver

bold vigil Feb 24, 2020, 2:35 AM

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fleet canopy Feb 24, 2020, 2:35 AM

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The most recent, hm

vapid crypt Feb 24, 2020, 2:36 AM

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And the crashing started the other day

bold vigil Feb 24, 2020, 2:36 AM

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im talking with someone else on another server and i told him that one of my 2 RAM barrets or whatever its called in eng , is almost 5,6 or 7 years old

fleet canopy Feb 24, 2020, 2:37 AM

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Oh?

bold vigil Feb 24, 2020, 2:37 AM

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i did not get this pc like this i upgraded it bit by bit so maybe

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something wrong with this one

fleet canopy Feb 24, 2020, 2:37 AM

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I wouldn't expect that to be the problem, if you had it a good while and nothing came up

vapid crypt Feb 24, 2020, 2:37 AM

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Hmm...

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I don't want to say "just get some new ram lol problem solved" But we don't know what the problem is phaWesker

bold vigil Feb 24, 2020, 2:38 AM

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first RAM was from 2014 i got the papers

vapid crypt Feb 24, 2020, 2:38 AM

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Are they the same sticks?

bold vigil Feb 24, 2020, 2:39 AM

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no

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those from 2014 are 2x 4 go ballistix DDR 3

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and the other 8 gb one idk what it is

vapid crypt Feb 24, 2020, 2:39 AM

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Oh its 3 sticks

bold vigil Feb 24, 2020, 2:39 AM

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yeah just found out too xd

fleet canopy Feb 24, 2020, 2:39 AM

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Yeah remove the newer one

vapid crypt Feb 24, 2020, 2:40 AM

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Did you add the 8gb one recently?

fleet canopy Feb 24, 2020, 2:40 AM

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There's a reason RAM comes in a group of 2 or 4

vapid crypt Feb 24, 2020, 2:40 AM

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Well it might not matter

bold vigil Feb 24, 2020, 2:40 AM

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2 years ago more or less

fleet canopy Feb 24, 2020, 2:41 AM

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I mean, removing it, he probably will be giving himself the advantage for the 2/4 slot thing

vapid crypt Feb 24, 2020, 2:41 AM

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You ran the error test right?

bold vigil Feb 24, 2020, 2:41 AM

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and a shop built it for me i never done it mysekf

fleet canopy Feb 24, 2020, 2:41 AM

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But also, the RAM timing can be different

vapid crypt Feb 24, 2020, 2:41 AM

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It was the first thing on the driver easy page

bold vigil Feb 24, 2020, 2:42 AM

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the mdsched.exe command ?

vapid crypt Feb 24, 2020, 2:42 AM

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Yeah

bold vigil Feb 24, 2020, 2:42 AM

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yeah didnt find anything

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i swear i'm cursed 😂

fleet canopy Feb 24, 2020, 2:43 AM

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Everyone's cursed with something

bold vigil Feb 24, 2020, 2:44 AM

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yeah im cursed with pretty much anything these days xd

fleet canopy Feb 24, 2020, 2:44 AM

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I'm cursed with life-long hearing loss

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But eh

bold vigil Feb 24, 2020, 2:45 AM

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eh that suck 😦

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decaying for every year to come ?

fleet canopy Feb 24, 2020, 2:45 AM

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Uhh

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I don't think so, just as long as I keep safe

void perch Feb 24, 2020, 3:54 AM

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damn something on my media server is using 900 mbps of network throughput.

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late sorrel Feb 24, 2020, 3:58 AM

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hmm whonder what it is

void perch Feb 24, 2020, 4:00 AM

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i actually am wondering, cause the few things i can easily check show no activity

late sorrel Feb 24, 2020, 4:00 AM

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oh

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I assumed you were talking about @rugged notch / @odd portal

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oh duh media server

void perch Feb 24, 2020, 4:00 AM

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nah, those don't use that much resources. and aren't on that server

late sorrel Feb 24, 2020, 4:01 AM

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galaxy brain

void perch Feb 24, 2020, 4:05 AM

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oh it's going between the media server and my NAS

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not sure why it's doin that for a solid hour+, but /shrug

late sorrel Feb 24, 2020, 4:06 AM

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insert d0c's cs man emoji

fleet canopy Feb 24, 2020, 4:07 AM

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Hm

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:CSthonk:

eternal cairn Feb 24, 2020, 4:38 AM

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I just finished installing this beast: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B079K244KZ/

fleet canopy Feb 24, 2020, 4:38 AM

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Nice

void perch Feb 24, 2020, 4:39 AM

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oooh nice

eternal cairn Feb 24, 2020, 4:39 AM

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CPU hasn't gone above 60°C despite overclocking and I have like 100 Chrome tabs open.

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That stock AMD cooler had some shitty pre-applied thermal paste though.

vapid crypt Feb 24, 2020, 4:40 AM

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Pretty good price

fleet canopy Feb 24, 2020, 4:40 AM

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But how about gaming or CPU heavy stuff?

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And yeah, that's a nice price actually

eternal cairn Feb 24, 2020, 4:41 AM

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It was a really good price and part of the reason I bought it. Plus, the controllable RGBs look awesome.

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~~I think ~~the fans are also 2000 RPM.

fleet canopy Feb 24, 2020, 4:42 AM

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You might get better cooling with third party fans

abstract kite Feb 24, 2020, 4:43 AM

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Do not let your dreams be memes.

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That is the #1 rule.

fleet canopy Feb 24, 2020, 4:44 AM

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I'm trying not to let it be

eternal cairn Feb 24, 2020, 4:44 AM

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Probably. I'm considering a particular Noctua fan that has around 2500 RPM.

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I can't find the link for it though, but I'm still looking for ones that aren't so ugly.

vapid crypt Feb 24, 2020, 4:45 AM

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You mean you aren't a fan of Tan and Brown? PirateSimon

fleet canopy Feb 24, 2020, 4:46 AM

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Tan and brown is pretty fucking cool

vapid crypt Feb 24, 2020, 4:48 AM

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Its possible to make a color coordinated set up, but it would have to be all tan and brown phaWesker

eternal cairn Feb 24, 2020, 4:48 AM

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You all make me hate Noctua now.

vapid crypt Feb 24, 2020, 4:49 AM

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Hey their Chromax stuff is just black right

eternal cairn Feb 24, 2020, 4:49 AM

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But it's like $30 USD.

vapid crypt Feb 24, 2020, 4:49 AM

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Personally I use Artic's Bionix fans, their P120s/140s are optimized for static pressure

eternal cairn Feb 24, 2020, 4:50 AM

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What's the catch here? https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-Value-Pack-Units-Pressure-Optimised/dp/B07XR86HVK/

vapid crypt Feb 24, 2020, 4:50 AM

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Well those are 80mm and probably running off of molex

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https://www.amazon.com/Arctic-BioniX-P120-White-Pressure-optimised/dp/B07G7XNGY9 these were the ones I was referring to though

eternal cairn Feb 24, 2020, 4:54 AM

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Do the manufacturers hate the color blue or something? coxWat

vapid crypt Feb 24, 2020, 4:54 AM

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I don't know why they don't have blue fans come to think of it

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I'm sure it would be a popular choice

eternal cairn Feb 24, 2020, 4:56 AM

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So, my processor temp rises, then falls.

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Not sure if that's an indication that I fucked something up...

vapid crypt Feb 24, 2020, 4:56 AM

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That's typically how it works out as the processing load fluctuates

eternal cairn Feb 24, 2020, 4:57 AM

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Ah. Good to know I didn't break anything other than my leg while setting it up.

vapid crypt Feb 24, 2020, 4:58 AM

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Yeah it can go from 30 - 50 in like a second as soon as it goes from idle to say rendering something

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That's just an example

eternal cairn Feb 24, 2020, 4:58 AM

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Ooh! Wallpaper Engine!

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I think that uses a bit of CPU.

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Microsoft really wants me to pay for extra OneDrive space.

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vapid crypt Feb 24, 2020, 5:01 AM

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Incase you get wanacry on your pc somehow PirateSimon

eternal cairn Feb 24, 2020, 5:01 AM

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I already have a backup drive. LUL

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Sucks to be Microsoft.

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Especially when everyone pirates Windows 10.

vapid crypt Feb 24, 2020, 5:02 AM

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Well when they can take your user data and sell it, they aren't really losing out on much phaCrow

eternal cairn Feb 24, 2020, 5:04 AM

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Maybe I should make a ransomware virus for my own PC so when they try to sell my data, they'll get stuck with ransomware. 🤔

vapid crypt Feb 24, 2020, 5:04 AM

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Big Brain phaWesker

sick reef Feb 24, 2020, 5:31 AM

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CPU boosting spikes temperature temporarily, but heavily.

brisk badger Feb 24, 2020, 10:36 AM

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usually your backup is going to be encrypted as well, unless ofc the backup is completely offline

umbral arch Feb 24, 2020, 5:27 PM

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I bought my windows 10 pro licence key for 6 quid lmao

eternal cairn Feb 24, 2020, 5:48 PM

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The backup is on a separate backup drive.

brisk badger Feb 24, 2020, 6:25 PM

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if it's in the same network, it still can encrypted as well

dense turtle Feb 24, 2020, 9:22 PM

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Anyone else having issues with the game freezing during matches? Completely frozen for about 5 seconds. I've lowered my settings to medium and the problem still occurs? Anyone know a fix?

dreamy forum Feb 24, 2020, 11:42 PM

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yeah. my game crashes sometimes too

eternal cairn Feb 25, 2020, 12:49 AM

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Take that to #gtfo-technical-support.

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You're more likely to get help there than here.

unique loom Feb 25, 2020, 1:50 AM

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hi everyone

candid cargo Feb 25, 2020, 1:52 AM

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hush

void perch Feb 25, 2020, 5:30 AM

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@abstract kite yes those are USB Christmas lights

late sorrel Feb 25, 2020, 5:30 AM

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amazing

abstract kite Feb 25, 2020, 5:31 AM

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Now thats hot

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Ngl

abstract kite Feb 25, 2020, 6:07 AM

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D0c is gonna set that up for Christmas this year.

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Who needs a Tree Nowadays anyways?

void perch Feb 25, 2020, 6:07 AM

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huh

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that's a good idea ngl

abstract kite Feb 25, 2020, 6:07 AM

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What is that anyways?

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Is that your server?

void perch Feb 25, 2020, 6:08 AM

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that's the rack that holds the server, and my modem and router and stuff

abstract kite Feb 25, 2020, 6:08 AM

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Oh

median moon Feb 25, 2020, 6:57 AM

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the electric bill

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omfg

eternal cairn Feb 25, 2020, 7:10 AM

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That's why I use solar. 😄

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It cuts down electric bills up to 90%.

median moon Feb 25, 2020, 7:24 AM

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well not all of us can afford solar :(

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hell i still put on overalls and shovel coal into a furnace for power

sick reef Feb 25, 2020, 8:17 AM

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Solar here is a novelty more than anything.

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Because we don't get dem sun

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monakHmm

eternal cairn Feb 25, 2020, 9:10 AM

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Oof. We always get sun here. We haven't had any clouds for months.

quick kettle Feb 25, 2020, 9:28 AM

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i'm planning to build a pc soon, it's my first time and i am curious and what i'll need to b careful with, since i'm using liquid cooling and not air cooling is it harder?

harsh zodiac Feb 25, 2020, 11:54 AM

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@quick kettle depends if you do it your self i became a huge fat of big fat ass air cooling because it is quieter and my Corsair h80i wasn't inaf for my I7-6800K same for the I7-5930K... so i went with 2 fat ass noctua cooling working good inaf

quick kettle Feb 25, 2020, 11:54 AM

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is this bitch alright Cooler Master MasterLiquid Lite 240 RGB Liquid CPU Cooler

harsh zodiac Feb 25, 2020, 11:55 AM

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looks great to me just watch your cpu tdp and the cooler tdp

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also important

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check if it fits your case

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since the radiator is bigger than simply two 120 or 140mm fans

quick kettle Feb 25, 2020, 11:55 AM

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is this bitch alright **
Antec DP301M ARGB Tempered Glass Compact Micro-ATX Case**

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since i got 3 120 mm fan, you reckon it'll fit?

harsh zodiac Feb 25, 2020, 11:57 AM

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i think it is but remember it's a micro atx case your motherboard needs to be too a micro atx. I think it will work with your water cooling,

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i think so it will fit

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since a lot of pics are already with a water cooling

quick kettle Feb 25, 2020, 11:57 AM

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matx is what i'm looking for right?

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ASRock B450M-STEEL-LEGEND AMD AM4 mATX Motherboard

harsh zodiac Feb 25, 2020, 11:57 AM

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yush exactly

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oh also an advice really don't try to force anything tiny builds are harder

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that's why a lot of pepole end up buying a big case for their next builds

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but with time you will get it

quick kettle Feb 25, 2020, 11:58 AM

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oof

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thank you mans

harsh zodiac Feb 25, 2020, 11:59 AM

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i remember i tried to do my first build in one night i did it but i did a bit shit to be honest because i was so fucking excited

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no worries ^^

quick kettle Feb 25, 2020, 11:59 AM

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ahahaha

fleet canopy Feb 25, 2020, 1:21 PM

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ATX can do MATX, depending on the case I believe

vapid crypt Feb 25, 2020, 1:43 PM

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Sure as long as you don't mind everything looking like its crammed in the corner of the chassis PirateSimon

jolly idol Feb 25, 2020, 2:17 PM

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Just triple check that the shit your buying will work with the other shit your buying

steady solar Feb 25, 2020, 2:30 PM

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@quick kettle I feel water block is easy to put on just the radiator is fiddly af

silver vector Feb 25, 2020, 3:01 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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this how...

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9700k@all core 5ghz.

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1660ti.

merry bay Feb 25, 2020, 3:13 PM

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1, large, target framerate depends on your monitor

fiery holly Feb 25, 2020, 7:07 PM

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Can someone help me. When I play games on my pc sometimes the game freezes and audio cuts on and off constantly it also drops fps to like 10 when it freezes for a second. Also my mic and speakers keep appearing and disappearing from my hotbar

median moon Feb 25, 2020, 8:24 PM

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#gtfo-technical-support

fleet canopy Feb 25, 2020, 8:29 PM

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When I play games on my pc

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Absolutely wrong

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Not just GTFO :)

vapid crypt Feb 25, 2020, 8:45 PM

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Freezing, audio cuts... Yeah its likely uh graphics driver issue. If the framerate drops though that could also suggest a vram bottleneck phaSheva

fading compass Feb 25, 2020, 9:13 PM

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Sounds like throttling too

rancid kindle Feb 25, 2020, 9:18 PM

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Hey guys what's the best membrane keyboard in your opinions

vapid crypt Feb 25, 2020, 9:19 PM

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Uh... something cheap phaWesker

rancid kindle Feb 25, 2020, 9:19 PM

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It's my birthday on Thursday and I wanna good one

vapid crypt Feb 25, 2020, 9:20 PM

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Well okay a couple things, what's your budget and what features would you want?

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And does it have to be a membrane keyboard?

rancid kindle Feb 25, 2020, 9:20 PM

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Yeah I hate those clickity mechanical ones

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And my friends said they'd all pitch in and buy one together

vapid crypt Feb 25, 2020, 9:21 PM

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Clicky isn't the only kind of mechanical switch though

rancid kindle Feb 25, 2020, 9:21 PM

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So about $120 max?

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Lmao as long as it's rather silent

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As I play late at night and dont want to be waking my family as I rage type

vapid crypt Feb 25, 2020, 9:22 PM

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So features, would you enjoy lighting, macros, would you prefer a full sized keyboard. There are keyboards that remove the keypad pretty much for that extra desk space

rancid kindle Feb 25, 2020, 9:23 PM

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Ok actually

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My keyboard rn is fine

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But a mouse

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My mouse kinda yikes

vapid crypt Feb 25, 2020, 9:23 PM

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Oh a mouse

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What do you have now?

rancid kindle Feb 25, 2020, 9:23 PM

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Erm

vapid crypt Feb 25, 2020, 9:24 PM

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I'll tell you right now its completely unnecessary to spend 120 on a mouse, you'd be fine at half that or less phaWesker

rancid kindle Feb 25, 2020, 9:24 PM

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Beauty

vapid crypt Feb 25, 2020, 9:25 PM

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I think the mouse I have is pretty decent, I spent $20 on it. Its a logitech mouse, I think it uses the same sensor as one of their higher end mice

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Are you right handed?

abstract kite Feb 25, 2020, 9:31 PM

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Psh

fleet canopy Feb 25, 2020, 9:32 PM

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Hm

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I play with left handed mouse :)

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Because all the pro gamers do it 😎

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But I suck though :c

abstract kite Feb 25, 2020, 9:32 PM

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Don't let your dreams be memes if you want a $120 you get a $120

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Mouse*

vapid crypt Feb 25, 2020, 9:32 PM

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Its not just any $120 though, its $120 Canadian PirateSimon

abstract kite Feb 25, 2020, 9:33 PM

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kekw

fleet canopy Feb 25, 2020, 9:33 PM

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120 rubles

vapid crypt Feb 25, 2020, 9:33 PM

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So like... $90

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Wow that kinda sucks phaWesker

abstract kite Feb 25, 2020, 9:33 PM

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Hey Muppy Pet

fleet canopy Feb 25, 2020, 9:34 PM

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GWovoYayy

rancid kindle Feb 25, 2020, 9:34 PM

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I mean my mouse rn isn't bad

fleet canopy Feb 25, 2020, 9:34 PM

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I have some 3$ mouse

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I think

vapid crypt Feb 25, 2020, 9:34 PM

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But you just said it was yikes

rancid kindle Feb 25, 2020, 9:34 PM

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It's a "PG Meduza"

fleet canopy Feb 25, 2020, 9:34 PM

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Sale

rancid kindle Feb 25, 2020, 9:34 PM

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Idk if that makes sense

vapid crypt Feb 25, 2020, 9:34 PM

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I'm getting mixed messages phaWesker

fleet canopy Feb 25, 2020, 9:34 PM

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Haha yeah

rancid kindle Feb 25, 2020, 9:34 PM

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Okok

fleet canopy Feb 25, 2020, 9:34 PM

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Think about mice

rancid kindle Feb 25, 2020, 9:34 PM

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It's a yikes for me

fleet canopy Feb 25, 2020, 9:34 PM

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Is it doing you shit?

rancid kindle Feb 25, 2020, 9:35 PM

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But not a yikes if I gift it to my brother

abstract kite Feb 25, 2020, 9:35 PM

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yikes

fleet canopy Feb 25, 2020, 9:35 PM

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Gifting a bad mouse, cooL!

rancid kindle Feb 25, 2020, 9:35 PM

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😏

vapid crypt Feb 25, 2020, 9:35 PM

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Grab a combo set for $120 and call it a day phaSip

abstract kite Feb 25, 2020, 9:36 PM

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I've personally started the nice life of many buttons on my Mouse

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God that shit helps in FF14

rancid kindle Feb 25, 2020, 9:36 PM

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And my keyboard rn is an "xtreme"

vapid crypt Feb 25, 2020, 9:36 PM

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Oh like one of those RPG mice

rancid kindle Feb 25, 2020, 9:36 PM

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📎 20200225_163631.jpg

vapid crypt Feb 25, 2020, 9:37 PM

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That's barely enough space

abstract kite Feb 25, 2020, 9:37 PM

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When your a tank and about to get clapped into the next expansion by a tank buster you invuln because you have the button for it.

fleet canopy Feb 25, 2020, 9:37 PM

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So I've got the PC, but I'm feeling hungry

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What should I pick?

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https://pcpartpicker.com/products/food/

vapid crypt Feb 25, 2020, 9:38 PM

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I think my last mouse was similar to that one though, it was something from Redragon got it for $12 on sale. Pretty decent for the price I think

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Food for my pc phaJessica

fleet canopy Feb 25, 2020, 9:38 PM

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I like how there's a "finger food" option

abstract kite Feb 25, 2020, 9:38 PM

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Well what does your Computer like?

vapid crypt Feb 25, 2020, 9:38 PM

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I love how the Doritos shows a dude guzzling a bag of it

abstract kite Feb 25, 2020, 9:38 PM

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Does it like RAM?

vapid crypt Feb 25, 2020, 9:39 PM

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All the images are broken though, at least for me

abstract kite Feb 25, 2020, 9:39 PM

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Chrome can't seem to get enough of it.

rancid kindle Feb 25, 2020, 9:42 PM

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Wait yo ok

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I don't need either of those

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I do need a good headset

fleet canopy Feb 25, 2020, 9:42 PM

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And mic?

rancid kindle Feb 25, 2020, 9:43 PM

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Yessir

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Because the one I've got rn

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I won for free from a steel series giveaway

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A few years ago

fleet canopy Feb 25, 2020, 9:43 PM

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audiotechnica might have some good options for you on headphones

rancid kindle Feb 25, 2020, 9:43 PM

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And it hurts to wear properly

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So I wear it weird

fleet canopy Feb 25, 2020, 9:44 PM

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Be careful though, cause mine doesn't have adjustability

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I also realized motherboard I picked might not support the CAS14 RAM I picked

vapid crypt Feb 25, 2020, 9:44 PM

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You want Headphones or a Headset?

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Why? Did you look at the compatibility list?

fleet canopy Feb 25, 2020, 9:44 PM

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I think it'll depend if he wants a headphone and mic stand or a combine

rancid kindle Feb 25, 2020, 9:45 PM

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Combine pref

vapid crypt Feb 25, 2020, 9:45 PM

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Not something I really know much about

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Which steelseries set do you have?

median moon Feb 25, 2020, 9:48 PM

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steelseries best

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™

fleet canopy Feb 25, 2020, 9:53 PM

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There's not really anything saying about RAM specifications except the speed

vapid crypt Feb 25, 2020, 9:55 PM

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What are you looking at?

fleet canopy Feb 25, 2020, 9:55 PM

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https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/TUF-GAMING-X570-PLUS-WI-FI/specifications/

vapid crypt Feb 25, 2020, 9:56 PM

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https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/SocketAM4/TUF_GAMING_X570-PLUS/Memory_QVL_3rd_Gen_AMD_Ryzen_Processors_X570_0722.pdf

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There's the memory compatibility list

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Reference the part number from the kit you got, and find it there

fleet canopy Feb 25, 2020, 9:57 PM

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GWmythicalThonkCool How am I supposed to find part number if I haven't have it yet?

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Oh nevermind

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Found it

vapid crypt Feb 25, 2020, 9:58 PM

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Yeah they list the part number on the shop page

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Usually in the title a lot of the times

fleet canopy Feb 25, 2020, 10:03 PM

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I found a really close one, but it's a CAS16

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Bleh

median moon Feb 25, 2020, 10:03 PM

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i have the ASUS TUF GAMING

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good mobo can confirm

fleet canopy Feb 25, 2020, 10:07 PM

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Either way, still better than 2400MHz CAS16

vapid crypt Feb 25, 2020, 10:10 PM

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It should work fine, the QVL list is basically what they tested and can confirm works

steady solar Feb 25, 2020, 11:39 PM

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G502 best mouse

vapid crypt Feb 25, 2020, 11:46 PM

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I have the G203

rancid kindle Feb 26, 2020, 12:27 AM

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Ok how do you guys like hyperx headsets

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Compared to others

vapid crypt Feb 26, 2020, 12:46 AM

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I've heard they make good headsets, but I don't have any experience with that really. I mainly get affordable headphones that perform well, and I got an XLR mic clamped to my desk phaWesker

merry bay Feb 26, 2020, 12:46 AM

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They're pretty sturdy, audio quality part is subjective

vapid crypt Feb 26, 2020, 12:48 AM

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From what I've seen people typically replace their earpads with something from Brainwavs

jolly idol Feb 26, 2020, 12:50 AM

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Any audio question I recommend u check out Zreviews on YT he has a ton of videos on headsets

vapid crypt Feb 26, 2020, 12:51 AM

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I actually found that guy a little while ago when I was curious about headphones and amps.

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From what I recall for a good headset, he recommends getting some decent headphones with a mic attachment and combine that with a cheap dac/amp to avoid any audio issues. Otherwise a set up like mine with a separate mic and nice headphones, just get a nice headphone amp if that's really important to you... which I mean I dunno if I need that personally phaSheva

regal laurel Feb 26, 2020, 1:00 AM

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zeos usually recommends the Philips SHP9500 with a vmoda boompro mic

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probably still relevant

vapid crypt Feb 26, 2020, 1:01 AM

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Uhuh, something like that. I think the example he used was something from Sennheiser, but the Philips would be more cost effective

regal laurel Feb 26, 2020, 1:03 AM

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Well those hyperx cloud 2's or what they're called are around 100$ i thought? And these headphones are 70$ currently + 30$ mic

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So about the same price but better quality on both

vapid crypt Feb 26, 2020, 1:05 AM

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Huh, the Cloud 2 is on sale for 80 bucks right now

regal laurel Feb 26, 2020, 1:05 AM

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Pretty competitive then

vapid crypt Feb 26, 2020, 1:06 AM

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Since this is for Rice we gotta go by Canadian though PirateSimon

regal laurel Feb 26, 2020, 1:06 AM

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their decision then if they want to go the easy route, or the quality + future upgradeablility route

vapid crypt Feb 26, 2020, 1:07 AM

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On Amazon CA the Cloud 2's are at the same price as the Philips

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105 give or take a couple

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@rancid kindle

regal laurel Feb 26, 2020, 1:09 AM

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Should maybe note that the phillips are more open back, in case close back is a requirement

abstract kite Feb 26, 2020, 1:21 AM

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I got a Philips 4k tv

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Biggest let down that it didn't even have any Display Ports.

tardy tinsel Feb 26, 2020, 1:22 AM

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No HDMI?

brisk badger Feb 26, 2020, 1:28 AM

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display port on tv's are not common find

abstract kite Feb 26, 2020, 1:29 AM

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Had plenty of HDMIs

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No DS though.

vapid crypt Feb 26, 2020, 1:52 AM

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Is it an Oled?

rancid kindle Feb 26, 2020, 2:14 AM

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Epic

patent token Feb 26, 2020, 3:30 AM

#

Picked up an RX 580 red devil for $70

abstract kite Feb 26, 2020, 3:30 AM

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Seems sketchy

patent token Feb 26, 2020, 3:31 AM

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Workin fine

#

Going to wait a week or so to sell my previous gpu just in case this one shits on me

abstract kite Feb 26, 2020, 3:34 AM

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So, I am looking to get a PCI Wi-Fi Adapter for my dads computer because the B450 series of boards to not come with it... Anyhow I was wondering what would be a good one and how would I even connect it to my board? Some seem to have the plugs that a Case Fan would use..

patent token Feb 26, 2020, 3:35 AM

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I haven't seen one that uses case fan plugs

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The USB ones work fine from my experience

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Haven't worked with a ton of the pci ones tho

vapid crypt Feb 26, 2020, 3:51 AM

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$70 580, what a deal

eternal cairn Feb 26, 2020, 4:42 AM

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I just use a Netgear USB wifi adapter.

patent token Feb 26, 2020, 4:47 AM

#

^

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You can pick up a good USB one for sub $10

abstract kite Feb 26, 2020, 5:15 AM

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I don't have any more regular USB Ports... I have 3.0 slots

merry bay Feb 26, 2020, 5:24 AM

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A USB hub sounds just what you'd need

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1 3.0 slot can power a lot

sick reef Feb 26, 2020, 5:33 AM

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A PCIe WiFi adapter should be PCIe, like a graphics card.

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What you might think looks like a case fan connector could be a 4-pin internal USB connector.

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A case fan connector is quite square, whereas internal USB is oblong rectangular.

abstract kite Feb 26, 2020, 5:36 AM

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https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-GC-CI22M_A-CNVi-Wireless-AC-Upgrade/dp/B07MGXDC7F/ref=asc_df_B07MGXDC7F/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=385286500280&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=9048022635925437228&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9015260&hvtargid=aud-829758849484:pla-829735094521&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=77282054583&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=385286500280&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=9048022635925437228&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9015260&hvtargid=aud-829758849484:pla-829735094521

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Looking at this

sick reef Feb 26, 2020, 5:38 AM

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That is an M.2 or M.2-e form factor.

abstract kite Feb 26, 2020, 5:38 AM

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I have no idea what that means.

sick reef Feb 26, 2020, 5:38 AM

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Like the samsung evo 970 uses if M.2

abstract kite Feb 26, 2020, 5:39 AM

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Question

sick reef Feb 26, 2020, 5:39 AM

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Do you know M.2 drives?

abstract kite Feb 26, 2020, 5:39 AM

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No

sick reef Feb 26, 2020, 5:39 AM

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The memory sticks that looks like RAM sticks

abstract kite Feb 26, 2020, 5:40 AM

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Oh the things that can slot into your MOBO?

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https://www.google.com/search?q=m.2&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS859US859&sxsrf=ALeKk00hU_j_GD_Aqpx6rkA9dGLAL56Mcg:1582695608978&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=Uon0yFXnqDtanM%253A%252CRisM1Nvk-epp8M%252C%252Fm%252F0x0t_r_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kSr7lBGlofHv2qy7hbHLWFsi7Tlqg&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj84L3MwO7nAhUYQ80KHZaBBwkQ_B0wLnoECAIQAw#imgrc=Uon0yFXnqDtanM:

sick reef Feb 26, 2020, 5:40 AM

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Yeah!

abstract kite Feb 26, 2020, 5:40 AM

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I guess?

#

I don't think a B450 Pro has that slot though?

sick reef Feb 26, 2020, 5:41 AM

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There's a similar but different one, that is mainly used for antennas as such from what I have seen.

abstract kite Feb 26, 2020, 5:42 AM

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And you lost me again

sick reef Feb 26, 2020, 5:44 AM

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As in, a M.2 that instead is called M.2e something. Think of it like how PCIe can be 4(short socket on MB), or 16(Long socket on MB) long.

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If B450 has that slot I can't really check right now.

abstract kite Feb 26, 2020, 5:51 AM

#

What does to run UE 1.0 because Destiny 2 looks good in it

empty plank Feb 26, 2020, 6:19 AM

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Threadripper time

median moon Feb 26, 2020, 6:23 AM

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4995X

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512 cores, 1028 threads

empty plank Feb 26, 2020, 6:36 AM

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500,512,000 cores, 1,000,000,280 threads

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9954X

steady solar Feb 26, 2020, 9:03 AM

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Insane

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M.2 is meta

abstract kite Feb 26, 2020, 10:07 AM

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Wot

cobalt bronze Feb 26, 2020, 10:40 AM

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just for info: i'm actually playing with ryzen 3600 @4.1ghz on x570, gtx 1660 (oc) 16gb 3200mhz and m.2 drives. 1080p and full graphic detail 80-100 fps (on 144hz monitor)

abstract kite Feb 26, 2020, 11:28 AM

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So what’s good for game development on UE1.0

north bronze Feb 26, 2020, 3:33 PM

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what's ue1.0 @abstract kite

vapid crypt Feb 26, 2020, 3:35 PM

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Unreal Engine 1?

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Which is like probably over 20 years old now isn't it?

abstract kite Feb 26, 2020, 3:52 PM

#

Yeah

sick reef Feb 26, 2020, 3:53 PM

#

Pentium 2

dark quarry Feb 26, 2020, 3:55 PM

#

Current version of UE is 4.24.

vapid crypt Feb 26, 2020, 4:04 PM

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Pretty much anything will work for such an old version of Unreal

#

Fortunately once you understand Unreal you can apply that to the later versions, at least from what I understand. I've never developed anything before, just going by stuff I've heard from devs that use Unreal.

dark quarry Feb 26, 2020, 4:12 PM

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Having done a few tutorials with both Unity and Unreal, I find Unity to be a bit more newbie-friendly. Also, GTFO uses Unity, so... 😉

proper zealot Feb 26, 2020, 7:54 PM

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yeah unity is a lot friendlier foe newer people

regal laurel Feb 26, 2020, 7:55 PM

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Unity is not your friend. Unity is a machine program. Unity is only loyal to Skynet.

soft stump Feb 26, 2020, 10:48 PM

#

Good evening, excuse me. Do you think that an R3 1300X, an RX560 4GB with 16GB of ram will make the game run at 30FPS?

severe pagoda Feb 26, 2020, 10:54 PM

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@soft stump CPU wise you're fine, GPU wise you might be fine

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On low settings, and with your expectation of 30fps

fleet canopy Feb 26, 2020, 10:57 PM

#

2GB VRAM is recommended so he can run it

severe pagoda Feb 26, 2020, 11:01 PM

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RAM wasn't my concern

regal laurel Feb 26, 2020, 11:05 PM

#

"vram" means the 4gb of memory on the graphicscard

#

more than 4gb on 1080p low would be pretty ourageous tho, so yeah, not to be expected that he'd run out of space

#

there is this pov video btw

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6ITKtkvNuo

#

fx6300 and rx 570 on 1080p it seems

stark plover Feb 26, 2020, 11:12 PM

#

imagine not having 16gb vram

#

radeon vii gang gang

regal laurel Feb 26, 2020, 11:13 PM

#

does the radeon vii use hbm or gddr5x ?

stark plover Feb 26, 2020, 11:14 PM

#

HBM2

regal laurel Feb 26, 2020, 11:14 PM

#

oha

severe pagoda Feb 26, 2020, 11:31 PM

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@soft stump At the very least you can buy the game, try it out, and if it's not performant enough refund it under two hours of playtime and within a week of buying it for your money back

soft stump Feb 26, 2020, 11:39 PM

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I know, I had the beta and it was really limited for my CPU. But I suppose it has been optimized since?

fleet canopy Feb 26, 2020, 11:41 PM

#

I believe there was people saying that, yes

jolly idol Feb 26, 2020, 11:44 PM

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I have a Alienware m15 and when a chunky wave comes my FPS go down to bout 40-60 so moments like that you might crash or hopefully just wait for your frames to come back

solid venture Feb 27, 2020, 12:41 AM

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been playing less optimized games to be honest. this game ran 60 fps stable with GTX 770

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in my 1 hour experience

abstract kite Feb 27, 2020, 1:34 AM

#

Is it advisable to limit the frames of my Radeon 5700XT?

#

My card in most games can push past 120~ FPS, but wouldn't that just cause the GPU to run harder?

merry bay Feb 27, 2020, 1:43 AM

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If all you got is a 60Hz panel, there's only a neglible input lag reduction going above 60fps. Stressing your GPU less would mean less power and in turn less heat. It might not be significant but it can add up over the month if you care about details.

fleet canopy Feb 27, 2020, 2:54 AM

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If your monitor is 144Hz, there is an option just to do it 120Hz or maybe 100Hz, if you can’t get that much

abstract kite Feb 27, 2020, 3:13 AM

#

I limit my FPS to 60 - 65.

#

When I look on my Radeon Launcher some games it tells me is hitting below target amount. Such as Company of Hero's 2. Last time I looked my Settings were telling me it was hitting "on average" 28.7 FPS... but when I was playing it was fine.

#

109775240990473071

fleet canopy Feb 27, 2020, 3:27 AM

#

No

#

?t lfg

rugged notchBOT Feb 27, 2020, 3:27 AM

#

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

severe pagoda Feb 27, 2020, 8:12 AM

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@abstract kite it will let your card run as fast as it would if you don't lock the framerate. I guess that isn't exactly helpful but your gpu has an on board clock which is much faster, the only concern is throughput. If you have a 60Hz monitor, lock the game to 60Hz and enable V-Sync

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That way your graphics card wont work harder than it needs to

sick reef Feb 27, 2020, 8:19 AM

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As long as you don't get tearing, V-sync doesn't affect performance. If you lock the framerate below 60 as well, it shouldn't matter. But should one do get tearing, there shouldn't be harm in it either, at the cost of other possible issues.

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All it does is synch front buffer to the back buffer/frame buffer.

severe pagoda Feb 27, 2020, 8:25 AM

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the idea of using vsync is to eliminate screen tearing

sick reef Feb 27, 2020, 8:26 AM

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And it does that by synching the front buffer to the back buffer, and apart from system lag, it can introduce other issues.
If you don't get tearing, it serves no purpose.

severe pagoda Feb 27, 2020, 8:31 AM

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Yeah, makes sense

steady solar Feb 27, 2020, 10:14 AM

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@abstract kite just turn ye clock speed down

sick reef Feb 27, 2020, 10:15 AM

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V-sync being limited to 30-60, and working very primitively, is what makes freesync and g-sync so appealing.

severe pagoda Feb 27, 2020, 10:21 AM

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V-sync isn't exclusive to that range

sick reef Feb 27, 2020, 12:14 PM

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I looked around, and the only sources I could find was that whilst technically true, it is because adaptive v-sync can work in an intervall between 57Hz and 63Hz.

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Otherwise V-sync works at 60, 45, and 30Hz.

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One source did state that only the majority of V-Sync is limited to 60Hz, but did not state an exception.

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Without exaggerating, almost all games that has the option of V-Sync will limit it to 60, and be non-adaptive. Some might have the option of triple buffering.

severe pagoda Feb 27, 2020, 12:31 PM

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Thats because when vsybc was around and was being actively implement 60hz was the standard for most monitors, but yeah if you're on an AMD use freesync, on GTX use GSync

vapid crypt Feb 27, 2020, 12:43 PM

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Turing supports most Freesync monitors now actually

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So called "G-sync compatible"

vapid crypt Feb 27, 2020, 1:48 PM

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I recall someone awhile back showing their Cyberpower PC, and just now Gamers Nexus posted a review of the exact same model. Seems that the coolermaster heatsink they use is pretty crap compared to the stock one, doesn't allow for full coverage of the heat spreader. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRlCtp_q1YM

regal laurel Feb 27, 2020, 2:39 PM

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Who cares about that you have the worst coolers on CPU and GPU when you get that sweet PCI-E 4.0

vapid crypt Feb 27, 2020, 2:44 PM

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To be fair the reference cooler for the 5700 isn't bad for that card out of the box since its power limited and doesn't draw as much power.

exotic rampart Feb 27, 2020, 2:47 PM

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Will this run GTFO 😏

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vapid crypt Feb 27, 2020, 2:48 PM

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Did you steal their server? PirateSimon

exotic rampart Feb 27, 2020, 2:49 PM

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Maybe 😏

solemn orchid Feb 27, 2020, 3:20 PM

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just got my new mouse

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my K65 RGB has been suffering for quite some time

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Mamba wireless

old patrol Feb 27, 2020, 3:22 PM

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Dame that mouse is pretty thicc

regal laurel Feb 27, 2020, 3:23 PM

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does the mamba wireless have the same tech as the viper?

old patrol Feb 27, 2020, 3:24 PM

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I need to by a new mouse

abstract kite Feb 27, 2020, 3:26 PM

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@steady solar @severe pagoda thanks for the information, but there is a small problem with that. V-Sync is notorious for not agreeing with my Drivers and liable to crash my PC.

steady solar Feb 27, 2020, 3:26 PM

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Why do you not want you GPU to work hard

severe pagoda Feb 27, 2020, 3:26 PM

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yep

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What's your card?

abstract kite Feb 27, 2020, 3:26 PM

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Radeon 5700XT

steady solar Feb 27, 2020, 3:26 PM

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Usually theyll work as hard as like they need to

severe pagoda Feb 27, 2020, 3:27 PM

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thats not a bad card, AMD uses free sync though, which is preferred over V-Sync

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Your display needs to have that as well as a display port in order to utilise FreeSync™️

abstract kite Feb 27, 2020, 3:28 PM

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If they don't work as hard the GPU will last longer, no?

severe pagoda Feb 27, 2020, 3:30 PM

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GPUs, should they run as intended forever will live a very long time

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human error is what kills the majority of GPUs

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or butchers in some cases

vapid crypt Feb 27, 2020, 3:35 PM

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As long as it isn't one of those crappy models with the memory running hot constantly because they didn't use proper thermal pads (lower end MSI), or good mounting pressure (Asus) it should be fine

steady solar Feb 27, 2020, 3:35 PM

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Msi is not lower end

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Ur crazy

vapid crypt Feb 27, 2020, 3:35 PM

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No I mean their lower end models

steady solar Feb 27, 2020, 3:35 PM

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9

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All my msi cards have worked perfectly

vapid crypt Feb 27, 2020, 3:35 PM

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Like the Mech OC, they didn't use proper thermal pads for the memory

steady solar Feb 27, 2020, 3:35 PM

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Good temps

vapid crypt Feb 27, 2020, 3:35 PM

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And the Evoke

steady solar Feb 27, 2020, 3:36 PM

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But ye strix are the best

vapid crypt Feb 27, 2020, 3:36 PM

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They fixed it since, but it was an issue when released

steady solar Feb 27, 2020, 3:36 PM

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What aftermarket is it galerus

abstract kite Feb 27, 2020, 3:36 PM

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Standard Radeon card, not the off-brands from MSI or Asus

vapid crypt Feb 27, 2020, 3:36 PM

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I think you can get it replaced if its one of those early Evoke models

severe pagoda Feb 27, 2020, 3:36 PM

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"off-brands", that isnt how that works

abstract kite Feb 27, 2020, 3:37 PM

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You know what I mean though.

severe pagoda Feb 27, 2020, 3:37 PM

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Nvidea and AMD sell licenses to companies to develop cards according to the card spec

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Which is why every card looks nearly completely different in terms of component placement and wiring but still performs somewhat the same

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It's actually really interesting if you think about it, because it benefits everyone and at the same time it's such a strange business model

vapid crypt Feb 27, 2020, 3:39 PM

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And for the most part with AMD cards, I've only seen the reference models sold by their board partners. They might slap a brand sticker on there, but they make packaging for it and everything

marsh sequoia Feb 27, 2020, 4:05 PM

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finite violet Feb 27, 2020, 4:19 PM

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nice

steady solar Feb 27, 2020, 4:20 PM

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Reference Nvidia look so good

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Had a evga 780 a while back

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As reference model

finite violet Feb 27, 2020, 4:24 PM

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I'm considering getting a 4k monitor but wondering how smooth it'll actually run, will I still get above 100fps in most games on ultra with my current rig?
I could get a 2nd gpu but like, big moneys xddddd

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median moon Feb 27, 2020, 4:26 PM

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probably

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2080Ti is mad powerful

finite violet Feb 27, 2020, 4:27 PM

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yes

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i still don't know why i only get like 60fps on nfs heat

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i think it's just the game that's badly optimized

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because i can run everything else just fine

fading compass Feb 27, 2020, 4:50 PM

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100fps in ultra is a stretch

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Ofc it depends on the game but the 2080ti is more 4K60

vapid crypt Feb 27, 2020, 4:52 PM

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Easily over 60

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But not much better than that

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And are you sure Heat isn't just locked at that framerate?

sick reef Feb 27, 2020, 4:53 PM

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@severe pagoda
V-Sync, and Vertical Synchronisation being two different terms in this situation. I even wrote "that is what makes g-sync, and freesync, so appealing." as yes, they are adaptive vertical synchronisations, but they are not V-sync. They are G-sync and Freesync respectively, and require a monitor with dedicated processor and software for the synchronisation process.
I'm unsure if you understand this as the statement was to refute that V-Sync can perform beyond 60Hz, but reading on, it seems like you do, and then I do not understand what relevancy that 60Hz was a standard has to the statement that V-Sync can't perform beyond 60Hz, or adaptive V-Sync beyond 63Hz.
Furtermore, you can use HDMI 2.0/2.1 as well for Freesync/G-Sync.
Unless I've missed something.

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Wasn't NFS rivals hard locked to 30 FPS?

vapid crypt Feb 27, 2020, 4:54 PM

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There are games that are literally 60 only, or you choose between 30 and 60

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Shit some games are just 30

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I heard Dead Rising 3 is like that

sick reef Feb 27, 2020, 4:54 PM

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Like, if you upped the framerate on rivals, you upped the gamespeed as well.

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60FPS was 2 times gamespeed.

severe pagoda Feb 27, 2020, 4:55 PM

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I guess it doesn't and i'm being a little argumentative, but i didnt know you could use HDMI 2.0+ for free/g-sync

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TIL

sick reef Feb 27, 2020, 4:55 PM

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It's mainly bitrates.

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If it can support the bitrate, it's fine.

vapid crypt Feb 27, 2020, 4:56 PM

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Um, actually I'm not sure G-sync works over HDMI

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For the time being

sick reef Feb 27, 2020, 4:56 PM

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It could so very well be, honestly. But then I would not know why.

vapid crypt Feb 27, 2020, 4:57 PM

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Maybe they've updated it since, but I recall hearing it only worked on Display port

sick reef Feb 27, 2020, 4:57 PM

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I think I have a HDMI 2.1 cable around, and could test it.

severe pagoda Feb 27, 2020, 4:57 PM

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I need to upgrade my monitors, my only worry is my gpu cant support it

sick reef Feb 27, 2020, 4:57 PM

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I know 1.4 wasn't supported because it couldn't output enough.

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Your GPU won't support the monitor?

severe pagoda Feb 27, 2020, 4:58 PM

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i currently have 3 ST2310 monitors, which are more than a decade and a half old, they run at 60hz

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And i have a 1660ti

sick reef Feb 27, 2020, 5:01 PM

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What monitor do you want to upgrade?

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One, two, three?

severe pagoda Feb 27, 2020, 5:02 PM

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all three preferably

sick reef Feb 27, 2020, 5:03 PM

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Well, I guess it would depend to what.

severe pagoda Feb 27, 2020, 5:04 PM

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atleast one to 120hz

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I'd like to increase the resolution as well on all three

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I'd prefer to keep the same screen size

sick reef Feb 27, 2020, 5:05 PM

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The pure basic math is to just count pixel to bitrate, to get a hum of if it can do it.

severe pagoda Feb 27, 2020, 5:05 PM

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as well as keep them all the same model since i could just turn the other two off

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I get screen tearing while wearing my hmd as it is lol

sick reef Feb 27, 2020, 5:06 PM

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hmd?

severe pagoda Feb 27, 2020, 5:07 PM

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Head mounted display

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I have an Oculus Rift S

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I think that's 2k across both eyes

sick reef Feb 27, 2020, 5:09 PM

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You're sure the tearing doesn't come from the computer running 6 monitors at once?

severe pagoda Feb 27, 2020, 5:12 PM

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That's exactly where it's coming from

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Four I think actually, the hmd is one display

sick reef Feb 27, 2020, 5:12 PM

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Okay

severe pagoda Feb 27, 2020, 5:12 PM

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Tearing is occasional

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Only when a massive level instantly loads in Pavlov for example

sick reef Feb 27, 2020, 5:14 PM

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Isn't the occulus two panels? Perhaps not.

vapid crypt Feb 27, 2020, 5:14 PM

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I think it does, one per eye no?

sick reef Feb 27, 2020, 5:14 PM

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I'm unsure, Oculus S could be special.

vapid crypt Feb 27, 2020, 5:15 PM

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Ah yes, Oculus Special PirateSimon

severe pagoda Feb 27, 2020, 5:16 PM

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oculus_Rift_S single display

vapid crypt Feb 27, 2020, 5:16 PM

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In reference to just how Special Mark Zuckerberg is as he sips water

sick reef Feb 27, 2020, 5:19 PM

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It's the cheaper one.

finite violet Feb 27, 2020, 5:43 PM

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And are you sure Heat isn't just locked at that framerate?
yeh was just an example

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it ranges from 60 to 80 most the time

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80 when i'm looking at the floor or a wall or something

median moon Feb 27, 2020, 5:55 PM

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Rift S is one panel

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source: own one

vapid crypt Feb 27, 2020, 5:55 PM

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What resolution is that at? 1440p?