#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk | GTFO | Page 80

stark plover Feb 20, 2020, 10:41 PM

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I couldnt go to 990mv since I would crash so im at 995

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Idk if thats pushing it or not but its lower than my stock so its good kek

vapid crypt Feb 20, 2020, 10:41 PM

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What is the core clock at?

stark plover Feb 20, 2020, 10:42 PM

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Kept it at stock @1801

vapid crypt Feb 20, 2020, 10:44 PM

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Oh so just an undervolt, okay. In the video he sets the power limit to +5. From what I understand all that does is allows the card to draw more power if it has to, not that it necessarily will though. Though possibly if using it for rendering phaSheva

stark plover Feb 20, 2020, 10:44 PM

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Oh so it would be good to increase that then since it only does it if it needs to?

vapid crypt Feb 20, 2020, 10:45 PM

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Is it stable at 995mv?

stark plover Feb 20, 2020, 10:45 PM

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Heaven benchmark didnt crash so it is so far

vapid crypt Feb 20, 2020, 10:45 PM

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In that review I guess he wasn't able to get it lower than 1020mv at stock

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Try Superposition, its newer than Heaven

stark plover Feb 20, 2020, 10:46 PM

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For sure, currently also playing R6S to do some actual game testing too

vapid crypt Feb 20, 2020, 10:46 PM

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All the bandwidth 👀

stark plover Feb 20, 2020, 10:47 PM

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hm?

vapid crypt Feb 20, 2020, 10:48 PM

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Nah just referencing all the bandwidth the card has cause of its 16gb of HBM2, you can do so much with that without slowing it down

stark plover Feb 20, 2020, 10:48 PM

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Oh I know lol

kindred fiber Feb 21, 2020, 1:55 AM

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Hi! I'm considering building a Ryzen PC for my brother,purely for gaming(Overwatch,CSGO,Closer,OSU,some AA games in the future) and a little bit anime movie.
I have only experience with Intel for the last 10 years.Never use AMD products before.
I do some research on google and i found that Ryzen is not really good for gaming because there Driver support is bad and the performance on Gaming is not good as Intel.
Can anyone gimme some advices on building Ryzen PC ?
Currently i have found 3 things for the PC
+CPU : Ryzen 5 3600
+Mainboard :MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX
+VGA: Giga RX 580 8GB GAMING

late sorrel Feb 21, 2020, 1:59 AM

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Ryzen pcs are the same as intel pcs

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just -1-2% in gaming and +30% in literally everything else

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It's more about AMD's GPU's,
however I have a RX570, and I get pretty good performance

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make sure you get supported ram, and have it a high speed

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I'd reccomend 3600Mhz

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@kindred fiber Does that help a little bit?

abstract kite Feb 21, 2020, 2:04 AM

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I would go with a Nvidia GPU and a AMD Ryzen CPU.

fleet canopy Feb 21, 2020, 2:05 AM

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Yeah, for GPUs, anything that’s like an RX580 or GeForce GTX 1660 will be good. AMD’s CPUs are pretty good and are a better investment. A Ryzen 3600 is a great gaming CPU, pairing with a 2x8GB 3200-3600MHz CAS16

abstract kite Feb 21, 2020, 2:05 AM

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Ryzen 7 3800x + series are great for performance and over clocking.

fleet canopy Feb 21, 2020, 2:05 AM

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He’s not looking into overclocking more likely though

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And he more likely isn’t doing 1440p gaming lol

late sorrel Feb 21, 2020, 2:06 AM

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Yeah, I'd reccomend a 1660/TI

fleet canopy Feb 21, 2020, 2:06 AM

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The games that are listed are very optimized

late sorrel Feb 21, 2020, 2:06 AM

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I mean, the 580 is okay, but I agree with gale

fleet canopy Feb 21, 2020, 2:06 AM

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Not very heavy need

late sorrel Feb 21, 2020, 2:07 AM

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but yeah ryzen > intel at this point

fleet canopy Feb 21, 2020, 2:07 AM

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And pretty much definitely is going to do 1080p anyways. 144hz can also be a nice investment if you want to aim for that

abstract kite Feb 21, 2020, 2:08 AM

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Nvidia > AMD (GPUs)

late sorrel Feb 21, 2020, 2:08 AM

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144hz is nice even on a 570

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but yeah, novideo gpu 👍

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I hate to say it

abstract kite Feb 21, 2020, 2:09 AM

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but yeah, novideo gpu 👍
Effectively the 5700XT a lot of the time.

late sorrel Feb 21, 2020, 2:10 AM

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yeah, F in the chat for that

fleet canopy Feb 21, 2020, 2:10 AM

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570-580 is still a great card over NVIDIA for price, unless Nvidia has now competed against that by lowering price

abstract kite Feb 21, 2020, 2:10 AM

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I just finished my dads PC Build

fleet canopy Feb 21, 2020, 2:10 AM

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Any new GPU from AMD is pretty much it

abstract kite Feb 21, 2020, 2:10 AM

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God that was a headache in a half

late sorrel Feb 21, 2020, 2:10 AM

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I thought the 570/580 were still really good for their price

abstract kite Feb 21, 2020, 2:10 AM

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You wanna know the dumb I did while building that PC?

fleet canopy Feb 21, 2020, 2:10 AM

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Yeah?

late sorrel Feb 21, 2020, 2:11 AM

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oh no

fleet canopy Feb 21, 2020, 2:11 AM

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Put mayonnaise into socket?

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Best move ever! 100C less than a normal thermal paste

abstract kite Feb 21, 2020, 2:12 AM

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I was trying to install Windows to that PC to my 2 TB Barracuda HDD, but I couldn't see it.... I forgot to plug the fucker into the PSU.

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LUL

fleet canopy Feb 21, 2020, 2:13 AM

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An OS into HDD???

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Whaaaaa

abstract kite Feb 21, 2020, 2:13 AM

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Not enough for a SSD

fleet canopy Feb 21, 2020, 2:13 AM

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Dang

abstract kite Feb 21, 2020, 2:13 AM

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Not all of us are rich okay??

fleet canopy Feb 21, 2020, 2:13 AM

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Not even a 150GB

late sorrel Feb 21, 2020, 2:13 AM

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lmao

abstract kite Feb 21, 2020, 2:13 AM

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I mean, I could...

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But I just got done spending on a whole build...

fleet canopy Feb 21, 2020, 2:14 AM

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Well I guess like

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SHDD is good enough

kindred fiber Feb 21, 2020, 2:14 AM

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yeah i don't want to do OC things.Just install the hardware,driver and play the games

fleet canopy Feb 21, 2020, 2:14 AM

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Indeed

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Just simple plug n play

abstract kite Feb 21, 2020, 2:15 AM

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I still need to replace this 5700XT.

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But I am gonna wait.

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Its not "Technically" broken

kindred fiber Feb 21, 2020, 2:15 AM

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@late sorrel tks for the info

vapid crypt Feb 21, 2020, 2:17 AM

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I think you're giving up on something that's perfectly fine, it just needs a bit of clean up

abstract kite Feb 21, 2020, 2:18 AM

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I need a DDU fresh install.

fleet canopy Feb 21, 2020, 2:18 AM

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Yeah, good drivers will come at some point

vapid crypt Feb 21, 2020, 2:19 AM

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Well its not even that, you can clean up and roll back. I posted a guide for it before that goes through some steps for it

abstract kite Feb 21, 2020, 2:19 AM

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I remembered something. When I first got this PC it was a prebuilt with like a 720 in it... I just hot swapped it out with the 5700XT.

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I didn't delete any drivers or anything.

vapid crypt Feb 21, 2020, 2:19 AM

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A GT 720?

abstract kite Feb 21, 2020, 2:19 AM

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Something like that.

fleet canopy Feb 21, 2020, 2:19 AM

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Ancient

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Delete

vapid crypt Feb 21, 2020, 2:19 AM

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Did you reinstall windows ever?

abstract kite Feb 21, 2020, 2:20 AM

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I have.

vapid crypt Feb 21, 2020, 2:20 AM

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Then those drivers should be gone

abstract kite Feb 21, 2020, 2:20 AM

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When I upgraded to Windows 10 pro

vapid crypt Feb 21, 2020, 2:20 AM

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Oh uh, hmm not sure then phaSheva

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Driver conflicts like that can certainly cause issues, not saying its the root of the problem but possibly

abstract kite Feb 21, 2020, 2:21 AM

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Well there are a lot of issues regardless of it too

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Like what I have could be "Stable", but when I go to try to fix it I can run into 5 more issues.

vapid crypt Feb 21, 2020, 2:22 AM

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What have to done to fix the issues?

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Well attempt to fix the issues I should say

abstract kite Feb 21, 2020, 2:23 AM

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Well, I stopped playing games as long as I do.

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I restart my computer more often.

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I typically restart once every 4 days.

vapid crypt Feb 21, 2020, 2:25 AM

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Oh do you leave the pc on always?

abstract kite Feb 21, 2020, 2:25 AM

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Yes.

vapid crypt Feb 21, 2020, 2:25 AM

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Just curious doesn't really matter either way phaWesker

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So check this out and follow the instructions in the description, the uh podcast might go into more detail. It discusses the issues and what not if you're interested. From what I understand everyone that has done this has solved the driver issues. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjI6Hkg0g7g

lament fiber Feb 21, 2020, 2:35 AM

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@abstract kite I just built a new gaming rig this month that is all AMD based. I went with the 5700 non XT because of doing the XT bios on it nets about the same level of a Non OC 5700XT. Aside from the screen flickering on some games and crashing older games if I change their graphics settings from what the game sets them to it is playable.

abstract kite Feb 21, 2020, 2:36 AM

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Okay than let me give you a test.

lament fiber Feb 21, 2020, 2:36 AM

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I will be swapping it out for an Nvidia GPU card though soon.

abstract kite Feb 21, 2020, 2:36 AM

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Do you have Space Engineers?

eternal cairn Feb 21, 2020, 2:36 AM

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I don't get why some people use AMD GPUs.

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Are AMD GPUs cheaper?

abstract kite Feb 21, 2020, 2:36 AM

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They are cheaper.

eternal cairn Feb 21, 2020, 2:36 AM

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How cheaper?

lament fiber Feb 21, 2020, 2:36 AM

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I do have space engineeres

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I bought my 5700 for 280

eternal cairn Feb 21, 2020, 2:37 AM

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🤔

abstract kite Feb 21, 2020, 2:37 AM

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When I got mine the 2060 was $699 while the 5700XT being as good and a bit better being $499.

lament fiber Feb 21, 2020, 2:37 AM

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The 5700XT is about 400~450

eternal cairn Feb 21, 2020, 2:37 AM

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Interesting.

lament fiber Feb 21, 2020, 2:38 AM

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so for now 280 bucks means I can live with a screen flicker

eternal cairn Feb 21, 2020, 2:38 AM

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I can still sell my i7 6700k for $300. LUL

lament fiber Feb 21, 2020, 2:39 AM

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Anyways Galerus you wantd me to boot up Space?

abstract kite Feb 21, 2020, 2:39 AM

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Yes. Boot Space Engineers and tell me how that goes.

vapid crypt Feb 21, 2020, 2:42 AM

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699 2060? The fuck? phaWesker

abstract kite Feb 21, 2020, 2:42 AM

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That was like 7 months ago

kindred fiber Feb 21, 2020, 2:42 AM

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kinda stupid question but: does Intel work well with AMD Graphic cards ? Cuz i think AMD CPU will do better since they are from the same manufacturer.

vapid crypt Feb 21, 2020, 2:42 AM

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699 in what currency?

abstract kite Feb 21, 2020, 2:42 AM

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USD

vapid crypt Feb 21, 2020, 2:42 AM

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No that makes absolutely no difference to performance

fleet canopy Feb 21, 2020, 2:42 AM

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What

abstract kite Feb 21, 2020, 2:42 AM

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^

fleet canopy Feb 21, 2020, 2:43 AM

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699$ is a 2080

abstract kite Feb 21, 2020, 2:43 AM

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2060

vapid crypt Feb 21, 2020, 2:43 AM

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I've never heard of a 2060 priced at that

fleet canopy Feb 21, 2020, 2:43 AM

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What in the hell does that price come from for a 2060

abstract kite Feb 21, 2020, 2:43 AM

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7 MONTHS AGO

fleet canopy Feb 21, 2020, 2:43 AM

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NO

vapid crypt Feb 21, 2020, 2:43 AM

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Its 349 gpu, which imo it should be 249... but you know Nvidia

fleet canopy Feb 21, 2020, 2:43 AM

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It should be A LOT CHEAPER

abstract kite Feb 21, 2020, 2:43 AM

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Price check me?

vapid crypt Feb 21, 2020, 2:43 AM

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A year ago it was 349 when it came out

fleet canopy Feb 21, 2020, 2:44 AM

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“it has ray tracing! We’ll add 100$ moreeeee”

vapid crypt Feb 21, 2020, 2:44 AM

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I don't know at any point or where the price would be inflated like that

abstract kite Feb 21, 2020, 2:45 AM

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Well another reason I choose the 5700XT was because people on Amazon were saying the 2070... oof.... I was looking at that card... was bricking on them.

lament fiber Feb 21, 2020, 2:46 AM

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So far the game is running great... but this is only the first tutorial mission

fleet canopy Feb 21, 2020, 2:47 AM

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2070 Super is better

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The 2000 series at launch was shit

vapid crypt Feb 21, 2020, 2:47 AM

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Uh well yeah that is kind of true, on launch the 2080ti had a 50% failure rate

lament fiber Feb 21, 2020, 2:47 AM

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I also have not changed any vid settings yet from what the game has them set to

fleet canopy Feb 21, 2020, 2:47 AM

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Mine has been doing really well for a card

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Had absolutely no problems with it tbh

abstract kite Feb 21, 2020, 2:51 AM

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I wonder if I can play it now....

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the 5700XT was having massive problems running it.

fleet canopy Feb 21, 2020, 2:51 AM

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Well

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You really do need a DDU clean from what it looks

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Then it might do much better than what it is right now

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After all, it’s supposed to play on 1440p 144hz ultra

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Or the highest possible idk

lament fiber Feb 21, 2020, 2:53 AM

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I'm on mission 2 and no issues so far

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Download driver wiper and look up on youtube about how to wipe all traces AMD drivers. I had to do that when I deleted the bloatware AMD pushes on you.

fleet canopy Feb 21, 2020, 2:54 AM

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Was it supposed to be 1440p 144hz ultra or high graphics gaming?

lament fiber Feb 21, 2020, 2:54 AM

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The AMD provided driver wiper miss stuff

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Yep Space engineers works fine for me so far.

loud hearth Feb 21, 2020, 3:02 AM

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you can get a 5700xt for 360$ w/ free shipping

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https://www.newegg.com/asrock-radeon-rx-5700-xt-rx-5700-xt-challenger-d-8g-oc/p/N82E16814930020?Item=N82E16814930020&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3A%2F%2Fpcpartpicker.com%2Fproduct%2Frkdrxr%2Fasrock-radeon-rx-5700-xt-8-gb-challenger-d-oc-video-card-rx-5700-xt-challenger-d-8g-oc&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-chEafobJTOFblKFCjEv4tw

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cooler is eh but for stock use should be fine

fading compass Feb 21, 2020, 3:10 AM

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That’s pretty good. Too bad driver issues with AMD rn.

lament fiber Feb 21, 2020, 3:10 AM

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WTF my GPU fans are not spinning.....

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This just happened. I just got to level in space engineers and the game crashed. Then I got a warning GPU overheated. I pull the case side off and neither of my GPU fans are spinning.

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I put in 20+ hours in GTFO and now my GPU starts acting weird on SE?

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well got to shut down BRB.

vapid crypt Feb 21, 2020, 3:16 AM

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I heard that fan issue occurs either with certain drivers, or certain Bios on specific models

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Or some weird combination, you might have to flash the bios

fleet canopy Feb 21, 2020, 3:18 AM

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Haha oof

vapid crypt Feb 21, 2020, 3:19 AM

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I think its something like the fans don't turn on until the card reaches 100C, at least that's what happened with the XFX Thicc II

fading compass Feb 21, 2020, 3:21 AM

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What a sick fan curve xtreemjoy

lament fiber Feb 21, 2020, 3:24 AM

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well shit I just went to XFX site after my fans stopped working and they said it is a known issue and swap to driver ver 19.9.3 or 19.8.2 IMEDEATLY

vapid crypt Feb 21, 2020, 3:24 AM

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What driver version are you on?

lament fiber Feb 21, 2020, 3:24 AM

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golfclap Good job AMD, good job

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The newest ones released Feb 02

vapid crypt Feb 21, 2020, 3:26 AM

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It says here the driver issue for the fans occurs on 19.9.1 and 19.9.2

lament fiber Feb 21, 2020, 3:26 AM

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ver 20.2.1

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https://www.xfxforce.com/support/drivers-downloads

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scroll down

vapid crypt Feb 21, 2020, 3:27 AM

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Yeah I'm on that page and this is what it says

lament fiber Feb 21, 2020, 3:27 AM

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if it happens with 20.2.1 then the ones they say to use are the ones I am going with

vapid crypt Feb 21, 2020, 3:27 AM

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There's no mention of 2020 drivers anywhere

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lament fiber Feb 21, 2020, 3:27 AM

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witch means if another driver does it go back to the one that works

vapid crypt Feb 21, 2020, 3:28 AM

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Did you clean install? Cause it could be a residual file or registry key

lament fiber Feb 21, 2020, 3:29 AM

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oh yes I did. I wiped every file of the onld driver

vapid crypt Feb 21, 2020, 3:30 AM

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Well anyway I'm pretty sure its an issue with XFX specifically, cause I've only heard of that happening with their cards

lament fiber Feb 21, 2020, 3:31 AM

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yep well I'm off to reinstall my fans. DDU don't fail me now

cobalt hound Feb 21, 2020, 3:40 AM

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i have a friend that wants to play gta 5 but when he enters online the game never loads

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he has a good pc i think its probably his ram

vapid crypt Feb 21, 2020, 3:42 AM

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Never loads, are you sure it isn't his internet or where its installed? Dying hard drive or something

abstract kite Feb 21, 2020, 3:42 AM

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Question....

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I just built a new PC and my dad wants to put his old 1 TB HDD on in it as a Slave... but that old HDD had things like Windows 10 Home... while he now has pro... will it effect anything?

vapid crypt Feb 21, 2020, 3:47 AM

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As long as it boots off the correct drive it shouldn't, would be better to back up anything on it and format it though

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To utilize that space you know

abstract kite Feb 21, 2020, 3:48 AM

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He says he doesn't want to go through the trouble of reinstalling everything on the new PC

void perch Feb 21, 2020, 3:49 AM

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Does he want to boot to that 1 TB drive, or just use it as extra storage?

vapid crypt Feb 21, 2020, 3:50 AM

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From what I understood it seems like the latter, but I guess cause it has all his programs installed and settings saves and just wants to use that while booting onto pro from a different drive. I assume an SSD?

abstract kite Feb 21, 2020, 3:53 AM

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He just wants to use what is on the 1 TB

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He will Boot off of the 2 TB

void perch Feb 21, 2020, 3:54 AM

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if he keeps booting off the 2 TB one and just uses the 1 TB as a slave then that won't be any issue

abstract kite Feb 21, 2020, 3:55 AM

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When I plug the 1 TB into the second SATA placement wont need to change the loadout in the BIOS?

void perch Feb 21, 2020, 3:55 AM

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nope, shouldn't.

abstract kite Feb 21, 2020, 3:55 AM

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Okay, thank you.

merry bay Feb 21, 2020, 4:05 AM

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The 1TB wouldn't happen to have his old OS, would it? It might detect it and default to it. That's the only case where you'd have to manually set Boot Priority

abstract kite Feb 21, 2020, 4:11 AM

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His old OS was Windows Home

frigid niche Feb 21, 2020, 4:13 AM

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Man I've been having blue screens like no other

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most recent one had a Nvlddmkm.sys failure with bsod

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Systems more stable with 2 sticks of ram in with 4 crashes a good bit

abstract kite Feb 21, 2020, 4:14 AM

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What is your current MOBO?

frigid niche Feb 21, 2020, 4:15 AM

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I just replaced it since I crashed a ton on my previous its a Aorus X570 Pro Wifi

abstract kite Feb 21, 2020, 4:15 AM

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Hmm

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Okay, so are you idling on Desktop?

frigid niche Feb 21, 2020, 4:16 AM

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I'm using desktop right now

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I recently deleted files on windows.old

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Apparently some were system files on there

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And might've been interrupting with it

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The only crash since has been that Nvkddmkm one and right now it has 4 sticks

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Have had times where it just doesnt crash for whatever reason for a while so atm I'm just waiting to see if it will

abstract kite Feb 21, 2020, 4:19 AM

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Go into your Task manager > "Performance" > "Memory" > Screenshot it...

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I wanna see how much you are running..

frigid niche Feb 21, 2020, 4:20 AM

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abstract kite Feb 21, 2020, 4:21 AM

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So 32 GB of RAM

frigid niche Feb 21, 2020, 4:21 AM

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Build has a 2700x and 2080super

abstract kite Feb 21, 2020, 4:21 AM

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You are using x4 8 Sticks I take it.

frigid niche Feb 21, 2020, 4:22 AM

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Yes

abstract kite Feb 21, 2020, 4:22 AM

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From what I was told with my B450 Tomahawk Max it is better to x2 16 stick it.

frigid niche Feb 21, 2020, 4:22 AM

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I had a B450 Aorus befire

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actually

abstract kite Feb 21, 2020, 4:23 AM

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You are blue screening you say... I wanna take a bet it is driver related.

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What current version are you running your GEFORCE at.

frigid niche Feb 21, 2020, 4:23 AM

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Hol up

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my geforce experience wont load the hell says I need to reboot

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Ok im reinstallin it

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Well shit

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Got a memory managment stopcode while updating driver

urban gulch Feb 21, 2020, 4:52 AM

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Oof.

lament fiber Feb 21, 2020, 5:22 AM

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Welp DDU will fix that. just make sure your new driver in saved to a location you can access.

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I just fixed my fans not working on my R 5700. Had to use MSI afterburner and custom the fan curve. I don't use adrenaline software so Wattman was not there to turn on my cooling fans. Thanks AMD for not having that already programmed into the driver files!

frigid niche Feb 21, 2020, 5:36 AM

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Well i just keep getting critical process died errors

rose sable Feb 21, 2020, 5:38 AM

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Will a i9 9700 with a RTX 2080 super run this game?

vapid crypt Feb 21, 2020, 5:38 AM

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Sure no problem, but if its a 9700 its an i7 phaWesker

rose sable Feb 21, 2020, 5:38 AM

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I’m really new to pc gaming

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It may be a i7

trim ether Feb 21, 2020, 5:44 AM

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any one got a suggestion for hard drive that's cheap with decent amount of space?

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was looking at the barracuda 4TB

vapid crypt Feb 21, 2020, 5:50 AM

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4TB minimum?

trim ether Feb 21, 2020, 5:53 AM

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well doesn't matter how much

sick reef Feb 21, 2020, 5:53 AM

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Look away from Seagate.

trim ether Feb 21, 2020, 5:53 AM

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just decent amounts of space for the price

sick reef Feb 21, 2020, 5:53 AM

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And you'll be good.

trim ether Feb 21, 2020, 5:53 AM

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Why is that?

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just a hard drive? lol

sick reef Feb 21, 2020, 5:54 AM

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Seagate is known for it's failure rate compared to other drives, generally speaking. Some haven't had it, a lot have had it fail on them.

vapid crypt Feb 21, 2020, 5:55 AM

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Failure rate across the board like literally all of them or just a specific type?

trim ether Feb 21, 2020, 5:55 AM

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^

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I'm looking at amazon and I was thinking of picking up the barracuda 4TB for $79.99

sick reef Feb 21, 2020, 5:55 AM

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Mostly their cheaper sort.

vapid crypt Feb 21, 2020, 5:56 AM

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I picked up a Barracuda Compute not too long ago, I can't say for sure if it'll fail any time soon. phaWesker

trim ether Feb 21, 2020, 5:56 AM

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Was there a problem when you installed it? @vapid crypt

sick reef Feb 21, 2020, 5:56 AM

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It is what I have seen as a recommendation for people who run smaller servers.

trim ether Feb 21, 2020, 5:56 AM

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I heard that you have to download their disk wizard

sick reef Feb 21, 2020, 5:57 AM

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But also in their personal use.

vapid crypt Feb 21, 2020, 5:57 AM

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No I was able to format it just fine

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Didn't need to install anything

trim ether Feb 21, 2020, 5:57 AM

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Hmm might just scoop this then fuck it

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https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-BarraCuda-Internal-Drive-3-5-Inch/dp/B07H2GY8ZS/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_sspa?keywords=pc%2Bhard%2Bdrive&qid=1582262601&sprefix=pc%2B&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExRE5RWFVGQkxNTTVDJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNzQxMzQxNTA2UzBVVklTMDRXJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA2MTkyNDQyTTJFTE84TE5WUlUyJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfcGhvbmVfc2VhcmNoX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU&th=1

vapid crypt Feb 21, 2020, 5:58 AM

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Oh okay, yeah I got the uh 2tb one there

sick reef Feb 21, 2020, 5:58 AM

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There is a reason they are cheaper. But it might also not affect you, as some has not had any real issues with Seagate. Though some people had had terrible issues.

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Some also talked about how they have had issues with WD Blue, in the same discussion, and not Seagate.

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Not a majority, but worth mentioning.

trim ether Feb 21, 2020, 6:02 AM

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Thanks for the info

south echo Feb 21, 2020, 6:02 AM

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isnt issues common with any hdd

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i cant think of a company without issues

lament fiber Feb 21, 2020, 7:02 AM

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I have had HDD and SSD from every major manufacturer die on me at some point. So anyone who says one is better than the other due to them never failing has not owned it long enough or got lucky.

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So just pick one based off your best guess list and go with it. Just make sure the RPM(HD) or data xfer rate and memory size is what you want and it is in your price range.

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Also stay away from refurbished drives. That is a roll of the dice if it last longer then 1 year or even past booting up a dozen times. But if you only have 20 bucks and really need one go for it.

sick reef Feb 21, 2020, 8:31 AM

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Yeah, they will die at one point. But rather later than sooner, as well as rather hedge the bet than be part of an "unimportant" statistic. As well as cars, most cars will die at one point. But you can estimate a Peugeot to consistently get issues early.

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Refurbished drives, though, yeah, that's another can of beans.

vapid folio Feb 21, 2020, 10:17 AM

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BEANS

dense wasp Feb 21, 2020, 2:49 PM

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:0

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void perch Feb 21, 2020, 3:01 PM

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Ooooooh

urban gulch Feb 21, 2020, 3:05 PM

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finally picked it up huh

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😛

dense wasp Feb 21, 2020, 3:07 PM

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yaa

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😄

vapid crypt Feb 21, 2020, 3:35 PM

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No compromises, just straight performance BestMod

urban gulch Feb 21, 2020, 4:28 PM

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depends what you do with it shy

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and now come all the amd fanboys xD

vapid crypt Feb 21, 2020, 4:46 PM

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What? phaWesker

abstract kite Feb 21, 2020, 4:58 PM

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Glad you are able to upgrade your rig

strong whale Feb 21, 2020, 5:46 PM

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Got my 8tb HDD

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void perch Feb 21, 2020, 6:34 PM

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Nice. What you going to put on there? 2 games, maybe 3?

strong whale Feb 21, 2020, 6:35 PM

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a shit load a footage/recordings, files, projects, etc

coral sand Feb 21, 2020, 6:41 PM

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hypersweat

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Oh, that's a hot cpu

eternal cairn Feb 21, 2020, 6:42 PM

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Just be sure to liquid cool that puppy, @dense wasp. 😉

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Also, this is on sale for $40 off: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B079K244KZ

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But I got it for free. coxKappa

fading compass Feb 21, 2020, 6:46 PM

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The master leaker

dense wasp Feb 21, 2020, 7:23 PM

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Actually thinking about cramming it into a small formfactor case 😅 @eternal cairn
Just to see how beefy it can get while being tiny.

eternal cairn Feb 21, 2020, 7:24 PM

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Get a tinier AIO to go with it.

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But how small? 🤔

dense wasp Feb 21, 2020, 7:25 PM

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I did a couple of 3600x & 3800x from AMD that is going to be sweet testing out.
The 3950 I did pay for tho

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Loque Ghost S01 - small

late sorrel Feb 21, 2020, 7:25 PM

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oo nice

eternal cairn Feb 21, 2020, 7:25 PM

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@fading compass My off-brand AIO with an Asetek radiator never leaked.

dense wasp Feb 21, 2020, 7:26 PM

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10L or something

late sorrel Feb 21, 2020, 7:26 PM

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Gunna overclock it?

eternal cairn Feb 21, 2020, 7:26 PM

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Damn, that is tiny.

dense wasp Feb 21, 2020, 7:26 PM

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Niet, more like undervolting depending on how the cooling goes

late sorrel Feb 21, 2020, 7:27 PM

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lmao, you'll probably get good performance by undervolting it anyway

dense wasp Feb 21, 2020, 7:27 PM

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I’m just been itching to do a 3950x with a 2080ti in the small case for some reason

late sorrel Feb 21, 2020, 7:27 PM

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that's a tiny case

eternal cairn Feb 21, 2020, 7:27 PM

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You could try one of these for cooling: coxKappa

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late sorrel Feb 21, 2020, 7:27 PM

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now I want one :O

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mini itx too

dense wasp Feb 21, 2020, 7:29 PM

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Probably going with a noctua L12

late sorrel Feb 21, 2020, 7:29 PM

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I wanted to do the Inwin A1 for a while

dense wasp Feb 21, 2020, 7:29 PM

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They are releasing a “ghost edition”

eternal cairn Feb 21, 2020, 7:29 PM

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I hate how the cheapest Noctua fans are also the ugliest.

late sorrel Feb 21, 2020, 7:29 PM

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put a 3700x and a 2070 in it

dense wasp Feb 21, 2020, 7:29 PM

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They are ugly as shot

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But gets the job done

late sorrel Feb 21, 2020, 7:30 PM

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I'll still probably do it if I get a job

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turn my current pc into a server

dense wasp Feb 21, 2020, 7:30 PM

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I’ll probably switch it out for a 3600 & 2060 later

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Need to go for a bit, be back in 20 or something

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🙂

late sorrel Feb 21, 2020, 7:30 PM

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oke, have fun

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lemme see if I have my pcpartpicker list of what I wnted to make

eternal cairn Feb 21, 2020, 7:31 PM

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I want to turn my PC into a server, but just for my own personal use so I can have 50 billion Chrome tabs open and 100 simultaneous programs open while rendering in After Effects.

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But I'll wait until my liquid cooler gets here before running AE again.

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75°C while overclocking a 4.2 GHz processor is unacceptable.

late sorrel Feb 21, 2020, 7:34 PM

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oh my

eternal cairn Feb 21, 2020, 7:34 PM

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Also, I feel like the stock fan, while it looks pretty, is complete garbage.

late sorrel Feb 21, 2020, 7:34 PM

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what do you have?

eternal cairn Feb 21, 2020, 7:34 PM

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The 3900x stock fan.

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I forget what it's called.

late sorrel Feb 21, 2020, 7:35 PM

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Wraith Spire Max

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iirc

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and I don't think their stock fans do as well higher than the 3800x

eternal cairn Feb 21, 2020, 7:35 PM

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Ah, I heard good things about the Wraith Prism, but I'm not going out and buying one just yet.

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Not even the Wraith Prism?

late sorrel Feb 21, 2020, 7:36 PM

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I don't remember, but from what I've heard it's generally a good idea to get an alternate fan cooler

brisk badger Feb 21, 2020, 7:36 PM

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"A server that does not serve anything is not a server" - Wooza

eternal cairn Feb 21, 2020, 7:36 PM

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Or in my case, an AIO.

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With flashy "ARGB".

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Also, I think that's a servant, @brisk badger. coxKappa

brisk badger Feb 21, 2020, 7:39 PM

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touché

late sorrel Feb 21, 2020, 7:40 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/user/TintedMirrors/saved/dsN7TW

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that's what I want to make

eternal cairn Feb 21, 2020, 7:41 PM

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Is it a gaming rig?

late sorrel Feb 21, 2020, 7:41 PM

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it would be, yes

eternal cairn Feb 21, 2020, 7:41 PM

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Then upgrade dat CPU!

late sorrel Feb 21, 2020, 7:41 PM

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it's a 3700x

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which would probably be oc'd

eternal cairn Feb 21, 2020, 7:42 PM

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It's base clock speed is only 3.6 GHz though.

late sorrel Feb 21, 2020, 7:42 PM

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true

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I would hope I could put it to 4.4

eternal cairn Feb 21, 2020, 7:43 PM

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Wait, why two 1 TB SSDs?

late sorrel Feb 21, 2020, 7:43 PM

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because

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I don't see why not

eternal cairn Feb 21, 2020, 7:44 PM

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HDDs are cheaper and are better for storage.

late sorrel Feb 21, 2020, 7:44 PM

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I already have 3

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it's 'dream pc' for a reason

eternal cairn Feb 21, 2020, 7:45 PM

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Okay, moneybags.

late sorrel Feb 21, 2020, 7:45 PM

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tbh it is more of a 'waste money' pc

eternal cairn Feb 21, 2020, 7:46 PM

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LUL

late sorrel Feb 21, 2020, 7:46 PM

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If I ever got it I'd only buy one SSD

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I already have a 512 but that's a little low

eternal cairn Feb 21, 2020, 7:46 PM

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If you call that RAM "waste money", would you like to trade me for the same sticks? coxKappa

late sorrel Feb 21, 2020, 7:46 PM

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wait wtf it's 3000mhz

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I thought I set it to the 3600mhz model

eternal cairn Feb 21, 2020, 7:47 PM

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I was gonna say.

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What's a 2080 SUPER Mini?

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I know of the 2080 Super, but I've never heard of a Super Mini.

vapid crypt Feb 21, 2020, 7:48 PM

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Seems like its just a smaller Zotac model

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Cheaper to make and lower price

dense wasp Feb 21, 2020, 7:54 PM

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I can’t stand mechanical discs 😅🤷🏻‍♂️

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I’m all nvme or ssd

eternal cairn Feb 21, 2020, 7:55 PM

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I'm too cheap to go for higher storage SSDs.

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I only got a 1 TB NVME because Newegg sent two of them on accident to my friend, and he couldn't fit another one in his case, so he gave it to me.

dense wasp Feb 21, 2020, 7:57 PM

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😄

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I’m lazy,
Can’t stand it being slow

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Lazy or spoiled

eternal cairn Feb 21, 2020, 7:59 PM

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LOL I just hope SSDs drop in price soon, but I bet they won't.

dense wasp Feb 21, 2020, 8:00 PM

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Perks of being a game dev I guess

eternal cairn Feb 21, 2020, 8:00 PM

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And rich. coxKappa

dense wasp Feb 21, 2020, 8:00 PM

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I’ve gotten most of my stuff for free the last couple of years tbh

eternal cairn Feb 21, 2020, 8:00 PM

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I wish my tuition was free.

dense wasp Feb 21, 2020, 8:00 PM

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Kingston/hyperx sent us a bunch of ram and ssds for our new builds etc

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I did buy the 3950x tho as mentioned

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😅

eternal cairn Feb 21, 2020, 8:01 PM

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😩 All that free stuff.

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Maybe I'll work at Intel when I get out of school someday.

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Then I'll get free processors and prototypes to test out (depending on what career path I pick).

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At least, that's what my buddy told me about his friend who worked at Intel for a while.

dense wasp Feb 21, 2020, 8:04 PM

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Would make sense

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Free with the ( ) that they want to be partners. And our game runs well on their systems etc 🙂

eternal cairn Feb 21, 2020, 8:07 PM

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I'd imagine so.

dense wasp Feb 21, 2020, 8:12 PM

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But it’s good fun

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I like hardware so I’m thrilled to be building our new park

eternal cairn Feb 21, 2020, 8:13 PM

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Hardware is fun to mess around with. 😏

brisk badger Feb 21, 2020, 8:14 PM

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would have been funny to play a mission to retrieve ludvig's 3950x that he would have never picked up

dense wasp Feb 21, 2020, 8:15 PM

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😅

regal laurel Feb 21, 2020, 8:40 PM

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@late sorrel if you're aiming at 4.4Ghz you should probably get a 3800X instead (higher bin)

copper zealot Feb 21, 2020, 9:51 PM

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It's been proven that the 3800X doesn't make sense to buy over a 3700X unless you just have the extra $$$ to blow. The performance increase is minimal at best

dense wasp Feb 21, 2020, 9:54 PM

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Not any difference in OC clocks either?

vapid crypt Feb 21, 2020, 10:01 PM

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The overall performance increase is like 2%, though I think the silicon is better binned and will run stable at lower voltages

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Granted the price difference is not warranted

dense wasp Feb 21, 2020, 10:09 PM

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Well I bought a 3950, so I’m not really in a position to argue that the 3700 is the better buy 😅

regal laurel Feb 21, 2020, 10:10 PM

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I just mean that getting 4.4ghz on a 3700x would already be quite impressive, but doing so at a voltage that a NZXT M22 could cool would be quite a miracle

abstract kite Feb 21, 2020, 10:15 PM

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4.4 is quite a feat on a 3700X

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I hit 4.2 all core boost but that's about as high as I can go

late sorrel Feb 21, 2020, 10:16 PM

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the point was that I’d oc it

vapid crypt Feb 21, 2020, 10:17 PM

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4.3 is the highest I've seen one get

late sorrel Feb 21, 2020, 10:17 PM

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Interesting that it’s not possible really

regal laurel Feb 21, 2020, 10:21 PM

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either way i'd recommend you get a different cooler, the m22 is that "pump in radiator"-one afaik, and performs pretty poorly compared to other 120mm models

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quite a few have 3700 or 3800 here iirc, so they may be able to tell you how well their setup cools

late sorrel Feb 21, 2020, 10:26 PM

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euof

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back to getting a noctua D-15 ig

regal laurel Feb 21, 2020, 10:36 PM

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you do want to build it in that mini-itx case, right?

late sorrel Feb 21, 2020, 10:44 PM

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yeah

regal laurel Feb 21, 2020, 10:45 PM

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inwin say that case only supports up to 160mm tall cpu coolers

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now whether 160mm means it's touching the panel or whether you could fit a few milimeters more in there is unclear...

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according to noctua's sheet the D15 is 160mm without fans, and 165mm with the fans

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since those are 150mm fans and stick over the heatsink, likely tho you could just clip them lower down and it would work?

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less ram clearance that way ofc

late sorrel Feb 21, 2020, 10:46 PM

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:/ hmm

regal laurel Feb 21, 2020, 10:59 PM

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I'm thinking that probably the highest performance coolers you could get that fit are the Sycthe Fuma 2 at 155mm and the Noctua NH-U12A at 158mm

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note also that the PSU sits right infront of the CPU cooler in that case, covering like half of those cpu cooler fan's height... plus that case doesnt seem to have good airflow anyways... :x idk

late sorrel Feb 21, 2020, 11:05 PM

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yeah

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Probs true

regal laurel Feb 21, 2020, 11:05 PM

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this is with a U14S i believe : https://miro.medium.com/max/11024/1*65UKEyZPFiugJjqCvUFPKA.jpeg

vapid crypt Feb 21, 2020, 11:06 PM

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Yikes

regal laurel Feb 21, 2020, 11:08 PM

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actually that appears to be a U12S only (5 heatpipes), the U14S has 6 heatpipes

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basically, if the case makes a 120mm cooler look like a 140mm cooler, it's hella smol

lament fiber Feb 22, 2020, 12:41 AM

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This is the size of the Noctua D15.

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I can't fit the second Noctua cooling fan on the CPU cooler so I bolted it to the top of the case and run it off the dedicated radiator fan circuit. This is kind of sad being an ATX+ sized case and all.

regal laurel Feb 22, 2020, 12:59 AM

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can't fit it over corsair lpx memory? seems odd

vapid crypt Feb 22, 2020, 1:08 AM

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Couldn't you just set the fan higher?

lament fiber Feb 22, 2020, 1:08 AM

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I can but I can't put the case siding back on because it hits the glass and pushes the cooler. My case has a huge ass pushbutton latch right where the second fan sits.

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If it was not for the latch it would fit just fine.

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📎 IMG_20200219_223512001.jpg

vapid crypt Feb 22, 2020, 1:10 AM

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Oh its the Panzer Max right phaSheva

lament fiber Feb 22, 2020, 1:10 AM

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yeah. it was on sale on amazon

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Even with one fan on my cpu cooler it peaks out at 45 under load.

regal laurel Feb 22, 2020, 1:14 AM

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hmm, maybe you could fit some other 140mm fan instead? the 150mm fans seem to have 140mm ish holes for the metal clips

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so you can get that -1c you know :x

lament fiber Feb 22, 2020, 1:15 AM

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They are 140mm fans with 120 hole mounts.

regal laurel Feb 22, 2020, 1:15 AM

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are you sure? I believe to have heard they're 150mm

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they are a bit confusing I have to say

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but they seem to be NF-A15s

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which if I understand correctly

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the rubber pads at 120mm fan size

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the holes at 140mm fan size

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and the fan itself is 150mm sized

lament fiber Feb 22, 2020, 1:18 AM

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yep. https://noctua.at/en/nf-a15-pwm the case is 140x150mm the fan is 140mm.

regal laurel Feb 22, 2020, 1:18 AM

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right

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so if you were to put a 140, wouldn't its frame be shorter in height?

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 1:19 AM

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RTX 2070, ITX, By gigabyte.

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It. Doesn't. Exist

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Well it does

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but I mean like

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It's like trying to find a unicorn.

lament fiber Feb 22, 2020, 1:20 AM

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the extra 10mm is so the clips they use to attach fan to the CPU cooler will work.

vapid crypt Feb 22, 2020, 1:20 AM

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What?

lament fiber Feb 22, 2020, 1:21 AM

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https://noctua.at/en/products/cpu-cooler-retail/nh-d15-chromax-black/specification

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look at the pic that has the side view it shows the wire

regal laurel Feb 22, 2020, 1:22 AM

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oh the holes in the A15 , the ones inthe round frame are only 105mm spacing for 120mm fans

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I was thinking they're 124.5mm for 140mm

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so you'd have to put a 120mm

lament fiber Feb 22, 2020, 1:24 AM

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Yeah so far even just the one fan works wonders. I would put the fan on the other side but the case exhaust fan hits it.

vapid crypt Feb 22, 2020, 1:24 AM

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Anyway if its working fine as it is, that's great. I'm pretty sure they have a single fan model of the same cooler right? Except not in Chromax

lament fiber Feb 22, 2020, 1:25 AM

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The instructions literally say the second fan is not necessary.

vapid crypt Feb 22, 2020, 1:26 AM

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Oh I see, I wouldn't know the only cooler I've used is the Gammaxx 400 I use now phaWesker

lament fiber Feb 22, 2020, 1:26 AM

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I'm sure I could just go passive on the CPU and it would still be fine.

vapid crypt Feb 22, 2020, 1:27 AM

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Uh... I dunno about that. What's the cpu?

lament fiber Feb 22, 2020, 1:27 AM

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AMD 5 3600

vapid crypt Feb 22, 2020, 1:27 AM

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Maybe your ambient temps are low though I dunno

regal laurel Feb 22, 2020, 1:27 AM

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oof, definitely need 2 fans for a 3600

lament fiber Feb 22, 2020, 1:28 AM

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so far one fan is holding it below 45C

vapid crypt Feb 22, 2020, 1:28 AM

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Have you ran it under prime95 or aida 64?

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And its a really nice cooler, despite not having the extra fan. There's a lot of single fan coolers that do just fine as it is, let alone a big ol' dual tower

lament fiber Feb 22, 2020, 1:29 AM

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My GPU though is trying to brick itself. I ha to use afterburner to get the fans to run on it. Kind of neat that I had no clue they were not running even though I was playing GTFO maxed out.

vapid crypt Feb 22, 2020, 1:30 AM

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Oh right the XFX fan thing

regal laurel Feb 22, 2020, 1:32 AM

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well how do you think it got so thicc? definitely not by running it fans

lament fiber Feb 22, 2020, 1:32 AM

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it is an AMD driver thing. I only installed the bios 5700XT files, driver files only as well and not adrenaline. 20.2.3 still did not turn the fans on.

vapid crypt Feb 22, 2020, 1:32 AM

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I've just only heard of the Thicc cards doing that

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Its clearly not an issue on their other cards cause they specifically mention it for their 5700 cards

lament fiber Feb 22, 2020, 1:33 AM

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I'm using XFX Ryzen 5700 DD Ultra with XT bios

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It could just be a renamed thicc 2 though.

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It even did it with factory bios so I installed the XT ones to see if that helped

vapid crypt Feb 22, 2020, 1:34 AM

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Well yeah its the same cooler, they made some cosmetic changes maybe changed some of the contacts for the memory

lament fiber Feb 22, 2020, 1:35 AM

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Well MSI afterburner fixed the problem so I guess I could say I lucked out on that aspect. It was only 280 total for the card so Meh, it runs good enough.

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If a 2080TI goes on sale for a good deal I'll replace it with that

vapid crypt Feb 22, 2020, 1:37 AM

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I only see that going on a fire sale if a theoretical 5800XT or 6800XT whatever matches or beats it by a bit phaWesker Or wait until its a generation down

lament fiber Feb 22, 2020, 1:39 AM

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so far I might need to put this sticker on my GPU 🚭

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📢 Good news everyone! NVidia is now selling all their cards at competitive pricing! Really professor? 📢 Hell NO! They just slapped sparkly stickers on all their old crap and called it competitive!

vapid crypt Feb 22, 2020, 1:48 AM

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Get your 2080ti Cyberpunk edition for $799 now with free Leather Jacket identical to the one our wonderful CEO Jensen Huang wears (not actually real leather though) PirateSimon

lament fiber Feb 22, 2020, 1:49 AM

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Wait why do all these jackets all come in blue with the numbers 76 on them?

vapid crypt Feb 22, 2020, 1:52 AM

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Uh....

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ConfusedUlf

solemn orchid Feb 22, 2020, 1:53 AM

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god I really want some razer quartz stuff

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or maybe hyperX's pink line

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I'm trying to go for a cute aesthetic for my desk

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and I really like how it's coming along so far

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but my peripherals are still edgy as fuck

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black and ominous

vapid crypt Feb 22, 2020, 1:54 AM

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Black peripherals is the natural state phaSip

lament fiber Feb 22, 2020, 1:55 AM

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Buy pink enamel spray paint. that will fix that issue.

solemn orchid Feb 22, 2020, 1:55 AM

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I've actually considered doing that

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📎 20200221_205453.jpg

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This is beside my desk btw

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I could totally disassemble and spraypaint my keeb's shell pink

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Mouse would be harder but still doable

lament fiber Feb 22, 2020, 1:56 AM

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My god! I can't do DISCO lights. I like sleeping.

solemn orchid Feb 22, 2020, 1:56 AM

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they used to be blue and purple and dimly lit

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unfortunately

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📎 unknown.png

vapid crypt Feb 22, 2020, 1:56 AM

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I know its only the side of the desk but whenever I see someone else's desk it makes me look at mine and reminds me how much of a mess it is phaWesker

solemn orchid Feb 22, 2020, 1:56 AM

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I get this message when I try to use TT RGB

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for some reason it just decided to reject the usb header

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This is my desk desk

lament fiber Feb 22, 2020, 1:58 AM

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Just the blinking power button in rest mode keeps me awake.

solemn orchid Feb 22, 2020, 1:58 AM

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📎 20200221_205824.jpg

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Better pic without monitor light

lament fiber Feb 22, 2020, 1:58 AM

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LAMA POOOOPS!

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Oh wait they are loops

solemn orchid Feb 22, 2020, 1:59 AM

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When I saw the cereal on the shelf I immediately needed them on my desk

fleet canopy Feb 22, 2020, 1:59 AM

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Hm

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Llama Loops

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Would totally get tbh

solemn orchid Feb 22, 2020, 2:00 AM

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The whole shabang

📎 20200221_205947.jpg

fleet canopy Feb 22, 2020, 2:00 AM

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Ooh nice

lament fiber Feb 22, 2020, 2:00 AM

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I have a 55 inch 5k LG TV as my monitor. Max FPS 60 ALWAYS!

fleet canopy Feb 22, 2020, 2:00 AM

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A couple of plushers

solemn orchid Feb 22, 2020, 2:00 AM

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I have an aloe plant on top of my pc

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I really like it

fleet canopy Feb 22, 2020, 2:00 AM

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Aloe is cool

lament fiber Feb 22, 2020, 2:00 AM

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Good for sun burns

fleet canopy Feb 22, 2020, 2:00 AM

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Pretty nice when you cut them and then apply to face

solemn orchid Feb 22, 2020, 2:00 AM

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Also the pupper pillows are named Sif and Ein

fleet canopy Feb 22, 2020, 2:01 AM

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Really cool

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Is cute

solemn orchid Feb 22, 2020, 2:01 AM

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I just need some pink spray paint

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To get my keeb vvv cute

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Ideally I want a smol cute keeb like an anne pro with pink/white caps

fleet canopy Feb 22, 2020, 2:01 AM

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Keeb?

solemn orchid Feb 22, 2020, 2:01 AM

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Keyboard

fleet canopy Feb 22, 2020, 2:02 AM

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Ah

lament fiber Feb 22, 2020, 2:03 AM

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Make sure you paint the case without the stuff in it and clean out all the paint from threads the standoffs go into.

solemn orchid Feb 22, 2020, 2:03 AM

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lol of course I'll paint it without stuff in it

lament fiber Feb 22, 2020, 2:04 AM

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Also only use metal flake paint on the outside of the case.

solemn orchid Feb 22, 2020, 2:04 AM

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I'll strip it down to its bones and even go so far as to paint it with screws in and unscrew the screws while the paint is drying to maintain the holes

lament fiber Feb 22, 2020, 2:04 AM

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That stuff gunks up in tight places.

fleet canopy Feb 22, 2020, 2:05 AM

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Speaking of colors, I’ve wanted to get myself a pink/cyan RGB for my PC lol

lament fiber Feb 22, 2020, 2:06 AM

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If you have the time and money you can have an automotive repair shop paint your case. They can even clearcoat it.

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or take it to an airbrush artist.

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http://www.badasspaint.com/computer.htm

fleet canopy Feb 22, 2020, 2:11 AM

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badasspaint

lament fiber Feb 22, 2020, 2:12 AM

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eh, it was what google found.

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I am tempted to make a PC case out of cinderblocks just so I can say my computer is a brick and actually mean it.

vapid crypt Feb 22, 2020, 2:15 AM

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You could use Legos and say the same thing

lament fiber Feb 22, 2020, 2:15 AM

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Yeah, But I saw that done already.

vapid crypt Feb 22, 2020, 2:15 AM

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How much would a cinderblock case weigh?

fleet canopy Feb 22, 2020, 2:16 AM

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Too heavy

lament fiber Feb 22, 2020, 2:18 AM

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You grind out the insides and the sidewalls to make it thin. It would still be about 30-40 pounds though.

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My case is about 37 pounds as it is.

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It comes with carrying handles so I can YEEET it out a window with ease.

median moon Feb 22, 2020, 3:02 AM

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bro we out here

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OSMIUM pc case

lament fiber Feb 22, 2020, 3:08 AM

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Did you say Opssum PC case? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzhc_VdDCEU

solemn orchid Feb 22, 2020, 4:48 AM

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late sorrel Feb 22, 2020, 6:12 AM

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aaAA if you oppress my boy tux then you’re about to have a bad time

finite violet Feb 22, 2020, 10:11 AM

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club penguin is epic anyway

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checkmate windows

brisk badger Feb 22, 2020, 1:47 PM

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I didn't know about this until recently and I am even more mad now:

In 2004 in the city of Munich, started a project (LiMux) to migrate from Windows to Linux. in 2017 over 15k computers were running linux. Then suddenly the City Council reversed the migration and now by 2020 all computers will run Windows again.

In short: Microsoft is a very evil company and they were really worried about the success of LiMux and that other institution / companies will get inspired and switch. They even sent Bill Gates to Munich, so important it was. It's most likely corruption involved and the city council claimed the users were unhappy but in reality most users were happy using LiMux.

Fuck Microsoft

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LiMux

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 2:35 PM

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Microsoft is a great company.

brisk badger Feb 22, 2020, 2:39 PM

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That depends on the world view and how to look at software

sick reef Feb 22, 2020, 2:39 PM

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Germany that paid a heft sum specifically to get to keep Win7?

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It's very likely they could have either wanted to not have crossover, on a corporate level.

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Or that there arose issues due to it.
It is feasible to say it wasn't entirerly out of that, but it is more likely.
Projects costs money, and if you can save on it to perhaps, you know, pay for the expenses to get to keep win7, you might consider such.

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 3:28 PM

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Doing a full format of my new hard drive (want to make sure there are no defects/bad sectors), it's been 45 minutes since i started this is gonna take a loong time

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whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 3:29 PM

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Are there any plans for ray tracing support for this game in the future?

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 3:31 PM

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I wouldn't imagine there is, if anything ray tracing on this game would look basically indifferent from the lighting already set in the game

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maybe some weapon shine or something but even then that can be done with different materials

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 3:31 PM

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Valid

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5700 XT, it is.

vapid crypt Feb 22, 2020, 3:58 PM

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As far as RTX is concerned, Nvidia would have to be interested in partnering with the devs to implement it. And honestly considering the small dev team I'm pretty sure improving visuals is one of the last things they're interested in doing. The game looks great for what it is.

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 4:21 PM

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@whole falcon @strong whale I wouldn’t be surprised that we manage to squeeze it in at one point 😎

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 4:22 PM

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I just don't think it would be necessary

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 4:22 PM

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@Rel0cate#5228 :BapGif:

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BapGif

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 4:22 PM

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Hmm, but by that point, do you think that Vulkan would be good enough to do a decent job?

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 4:22 PM

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we have the blessing of having a “I took a look and implemented X over the weekend” type of programmers 🤷🏻‍♂️

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 4:22 PM

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Vulkan is an API

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 4:22 PM

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So we never know what happens

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 4:23 PM

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But wouldn't Radeon be able to use the API to render ray tracing?

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 4:23 PM

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Vulkan “ is like” DirectX ey?

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 4:23 PM

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yee

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only it's better

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 4:23 PM

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That’s fair enough 😅

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 4:23 PM

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Rel if I were you id go with Nvidia over Radeon atm.

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 4:23 PM

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Or am I misunderstanding what an API does?

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 4:23 PM

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That’s a bigger thing then just doing raytracing in some capacity

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Nvidia has too big % of the market thou

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 4:24 PM

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yeah I have no idea how Vulkan support works let alone how you can even implement it

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 4:24 PM

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In terms of what makes sense, I agree @abstract kite

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 4:25 PM

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Yeah amd is having a lot of heating and firmware issues with their cards right now, mainly the 5700 series

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which is quite unfortunate

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 4:25 PM

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Mostly just Firmware.

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 4:25 PM

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5700xt runs like a furnace tho

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 4:25 PM

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Yeah, I already knew the drivers are kinda bunk, but that's been a common theme for Radeon cards

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 4:25 PM

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I have had no heating troubles fortunately.

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 4:25 PM

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The after market cards are decent

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 4:25 PM

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yeah but even with rog strix triple fan cards they are having overheating issues atm

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 4:26 PM

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Glad to hear Gal! I’ve heard plenty that has unfortunately

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Especially the founder cards

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 4:26 PM

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lol imagine blower style in 2020

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👀

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 4:27 PM

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Speaking of... How is that Ryzen 9 treating you Ludvig?

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 4:27 PM

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If we ever where to do consoles, raytracing could be neat, but that would be next generation

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I haven’t installed it yet 😅
I left it at the office cause I don’t have all the parts

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 4:27 PM

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ouef

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 4:27 PM

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Waiting for the Ghost S01, some more ram and a mb

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 4:27 PM

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well that 3950x should be future proof for like the next 5-6 years anyways

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 4:27 PM

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And the psu.. so the whole computer

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 4:28 PM

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I would imagine it needs a special board like the Threadripper...

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 4:28 PM

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3950x?

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 4:28 PM

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I’ll try putting it in the small form factor with a 2080ti founder & 32gb ram, will be neat.
I might need to do some undervolting tho

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 4:28 PM

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Or a bigger socket?

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 4:28 PM

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So apparently, the ROG cards were basically rushed out and QA didn't do a good job of making sure the cards were actually finished before shipping them; the Strix cards overheating aren't exclusively the fault of AMD

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 4:28 PM

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It’s the same actually

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 4:29 PM

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i love that about ryzen chips, great compatibility

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1700, 2700, 3700, etc all use am4

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I still rock a R7 1700

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 4:30 PM

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Ah yes, the 3950X fits a standard AM4 socket

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 4:30 PM

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oh yeah asus put the blame game on amd for those heating issues

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imagine that

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 4:30 PM

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My pile of stuff im starting my builds with soon

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😂

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 4:30 PM

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I'm using a 3600 that's lightly OC'd atm

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 4:30 PM

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l o g i t e c h

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 4:30 PM

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I love boxes lol

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 4:31 PM

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Would the Ryzen 9 fit in a B450 Pro/tomahawk? 2think

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 4:31 PM

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I keep corsair packaging/boxes because they look so sexy

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 4:31 PM

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With a BIOS update, yes

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 4:31 PM

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should @abstract kite

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 4:31 PM

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I agree @strong whale

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 4:31 PM

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Yeah fuck that noise..

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I'm not tinkering in BIOS

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 4:31 PM

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b450 is basically just a cut down version of x470 boards

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 4:31 PM

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The BIOS update is actually pretty easy to do. They'll even send you a dummy CPU to upgrade it if you need it.

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Alternatively, you could shell out for an x570 like I have and then upgrade to it later.

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But really, the 3950x is overkill for most gaming rigs, better off with like a 3700x and boost it a bit with the Ryzen Master software

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 4:33 PM

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I may hot swap to a different case ngl...

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Mine is ugly.

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 4:33 PM

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A cheap Asus Tuf x570 board can do the trick for basically anything, not as fancy as Rog Strix x570 boards but still does overclocking, has decent vrms, etc

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 4:33 PM

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^

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I went with the Lian-Li O11 Dynamic case because it's gorgeous.

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 4:33 PM

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So anything x570 is good?

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 4:34 PM

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pretty much yeah

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 4:34 PM

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Almost anything, but for the most part

vapid crypt Feb 22, 2020, 4:34 PM

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I read yesterday that Asus cheaps out on the Bios and removes a bunch of tweaking options on the TUF

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 4:34 PM

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reviews tell the story though

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 4:34 PM

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This is the case I’m getting

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strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 4:34 PM

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Like I said, not as fancy as higher-end boards

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 4:34 PM

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So what you're saying is that I could get a TUF and flash the BIOS for ROG lol

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 4:34 PM

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ohh micro-atx?

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 4:34 PM

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How much is that?

vapid crypt Feb 22, 2020, 4:35 PM

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No I don't think you can do that

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 4:35 PM

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Well an entire Micro build

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 4:35 PM

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i think some people have tried that actually

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 4:35 PM

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It looks like ITX, if I'm not mistaken.

jade ermine Feb 22, 2020, 4:35 PM

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Logue Ghost S1

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 4:35 PM

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It depends on what games you want to be able to play, Galerus.

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 4:35 PM

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http://www.louqe.com

LOUQE

jade ermine Feb 22, 2020, 4:35 PM

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louqe* ReversedConfusedUlf

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 4:36 PM

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🤷🏻‍♂️

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 4:36 PM

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Well say top of the line triple A titles.

vapid crypt Feb 22, 2020, 4:36 PM

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The uh Tomahawk Max has an updated Bios

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 4:36 PM

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I'm bracketing GTFO as a Triple A because it looks as great as one and runs better than most.

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 4:37 PM

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It’s a mini Itx case, yeah

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 4:37 PM

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How much does that run for?

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 4:37 PM

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8.2L

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 4:37 PM

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Oh, I mean, you're looking at upwards of around $2k unless you want to get into some heavy OC, then you could be around $2700~

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 4:37 PM

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OOF

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 4:37 PM

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@abstract kite that’s the best compliment I’ve heard 😘

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 4:38 PM

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Honestly yeah the game does feel triple a and runs amazing

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never had any crashing/performance issues at first release, let alone any real problems other than server performance, which is rare for early access releases

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 4:39 PM

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If you want to crush AAA titles, then you'll need at minimum a 9900KS or 3950x and a 2080ti, those alone would be right around 2k

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 4:39 PM

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Ludvig is giving me ideas for a new build...

vapid crypt Feb 22, 2020, 4:39 PM

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I had some issues on day one, think it was partially driver related, but nothing after that

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 4:39 PM

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A Nice Form factor....

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 4:39 PM

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we're so close to next gen you might aswell wait on getting a new card, lots of rumors on Ampere being much cheaper on the high end when it comes out

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 4:39 PM

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Yeah

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 4:40 PM

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maybe nvidia will have learned from their mistakes

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 4:40 PM

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Im worried that it might be to warm, and to noisy

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That’s why I’m undervolting then

vapid crypt Feb 22, 2020, 4:40 PM

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Imagine not charging 70% more money for 30% more performance PirateSimon

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 4:40 PM

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But I have a 2080ti founders. The run well in the ghost

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 4:40 PM

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actually i think cases like that have better air pressure than larger cases

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 4:40 PM

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Yeah, I'm excited to see what Ampere will do, but I'm almost more excited to see if AMD can fix their driver issues and optimize their chips lol

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 4:41 PM

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Maybe get the "Be Quiet" series of fans or a liquid cooling system?

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 4:41 PM

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yeah as long as amd can finally give nvidia real competition it'll be a huge win for us

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 4:41 PM

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I’m most likely going noctua L12 or whatever it’s called

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 4:41 PM

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yes noctua gang!

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 4:41 PM

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They are releasing a “ghost edition” soon if I’m not mistaken

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 4:41 PM

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I'm a huge fan of liquid cooling, but if you're wanting the best fans that are quiet, Noctua rules that kingdom handily.

vapid crypt Feb 22, 2020, 4:41 PM

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The 3080 supposedly using a bigger die than it usually would is telling about what they're anticipating. Assuming that rumor is true of course

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 4:42 PM

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I’d need a top hat on the ghost to have room for an aio, which I don’t want

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 4:42 PM

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i don't think you can even fit a full size radiator in a case like that anyways

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 4:42 PM

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^

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 4:42 PM

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tiny cases are fun to look at but are purely restricted by clearance/space

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 4:42 PM

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Yeah, it's too compact.

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 4:42 PM

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also hell to build in, fair warning

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 4:42 PM

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So undervolting makes sense, @dense wasp

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 4:43 PM

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http://www.louqe.com/files/heatsink_test_ghost_s1_MkII.pdf

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 4:43 PM

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But if you get the tiny cases right it looks so nice.

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 4:43 PM

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http://louqe.com/img/GhostCPU_AIOTest.pdf

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For sure, the ghost has good negative airflow, which is really cool

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Put a fan in the bottom and your set

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 4:44 PM

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yep compact case also = higher pressure airflow, so investing in good case fans means a lot

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noctua all the way

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 4:44 PM

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^

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Unless you want RGB lol

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 4:45 PM

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I mean, if the 3950 + 2080 combo is to much for that case, I’ll put a 3600/3800 with a 2060 in it or something, or a 1080ti

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 4:45 PM

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I want the SSD with 70 RGBs on it.

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 4:45 PM

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i saw a build where someone took a 2005 hp compaq case and stuck corsair vengeance rgb, hd120 fans and a 2080ti in it

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 4:46 PM

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I think the 3600 is VERY potent for it's pricepoint, but the 3800x is essentially a glorified 3700x and if you're not afraid to do a bit of tweaking, you can get comparable performance

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 4:46 PM

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It’s good fun thou, going to be 1/4 the size of our build server but 4 times as fast

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 4:46 PM

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it's 100mhz better than a 3700x, literally just a binned chip and it makes a whopping 1% performance difference

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 4:46 PM

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Exactly

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 4:46 PM

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@strong whale my dad wanted to do that with his old case with a Ryzen 7 and 2070ti. I decided to build him a new system from the ground up instead.

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 4:46 PM

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It's for people that don't want to OC themselves lol

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 4:46 PM

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@whole falcon I have both 3600& 3800 at the office,
And a 7700k

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 4:47 PM

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2070ti

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 4:47 PM

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That’s why I choose them

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 4:47 PM

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Nice!

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 4:47 PM

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The 3950 I actually payed for tho

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😅

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 4:47 PM

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Well the 2070 Super

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Isn't the super a 2070ti?

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 4:47 PM

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Man, I wish I could justify having a 3950x in my rig lol

vapid crypt Feb 22, 2020, 4:47 PM

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Not to the marketing team phaWesker

waxen orchid Feb 22, 2020, 4:47 PM

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I have a ghost s1, and I can say the temps with a traditional air cooler are very good

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 4:48 PM

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Alright 2 hour mark bois

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whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 4:48 PM

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I just don't do enough to justify it and my 3600 is more than sufficient with the OC I've got on it

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I really need to upgrade from my Vega 56, tho

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 4:48 PM

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@waxen orchid nice! What are you running in it?

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 4:48 PM

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this poor new hdd is gonna be spitting blood at the end of the day

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 4:48 PM

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Lol

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 4:48 PM

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If I’m happy with it, I’m thinking about switching all my computers at my home office for ghosts 😅

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 4:49 PM

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how much does the ghost mk II cost

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i'm gonna guess $50

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 4:49 PM

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The 8tb mechanical?

vapid crypt Feb 22, 2020, 4:49 PM

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So yeah there's a 2080 2080 Super and a 2080TI so this shit just gets confusing

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 4:49 PM

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250*

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 4:49 PM

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yeah

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$250??

vapid crypt Feb 22, 2020, 4:49 PM

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Conflating the 2070S as a "2070ti" only adds to the confusion

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 4:49 PM

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Yeah, something like that

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 4:49 PM

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Yeah, 250 seems a fair price for the quality.

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 4:49 PM

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i paid that for my corsair 570x

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 4:49 PM

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It’s a “premium small form factor”

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I might be able to get one sent to me to test it out thou, perks of game dev, I get a lot of shit for free

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 4:50 PM

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Man

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#jelly

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 4:50 PM

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But we’re all on 5 year old hardware still

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 4:50 PM

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oh yeah 970

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 4:50 PM

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That’s why I have all the boxes in the office

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 4:51 PM

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I had a 960 until late 2018

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 4:51 PM

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Im hustling to get everyone new computers

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 4:51 PM

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actually no early 2019

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 4:51 PM

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Is the 3950x gonna be in your personal rig?

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 4:51 PM

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But I’m almost done!
Will get motherboards from ASUS next week

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 4:51 PM

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yeah better computers means you can work with few performance constraints

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 4:51 PM

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Last piece of the puzzle

vapid crypt Feb 22, 2020, 4:51 PM

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You've gotten a lot of new hardware no, yet to put stuff together?

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 4:51 PM

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3950 for my personal rig yah

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Or, both personal and work, but yeah

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 4:51 PM

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Honestly, if y'all want to have a bad ass rig for testing and development, the TR 3990x is absurd.

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 4:52 PM

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Hence me paying for it 😒

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Heheh

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 4:52 PM

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i was gonna say that too

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3990x being shared across a network

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 4:52 PM

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Aren’t they like$ 4k

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 4:52 PM

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How much is the latest gen TR?

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 4:52 PM

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that would be amazing

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about $4000

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 4:52 PM

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OOF

waxen orchid Feb 22, 2020, 4:52 PM

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@dense wasp 1TB nvme, 3800x, 1080ti, mobo is asus rog 570x-I, cooler is a noctua NH L9i

vapid crypt Feb 22, 2020, 4:52 PM

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$3990 phaWesker

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 4:52 PM

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Haha, then I could do all 4 of my computers in VM

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 4:52 PM

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I was recently commissioned by my company to build a PC for rendering 3D laser scans using FARO Scene

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 4:52 PM

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perfectly scaled with the 3950x as far as $/core in CAD

waxen orchid Feb 22, 2020, 4:53 PM

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Almost never go past 70 C

vapid crypt Feb 22, 2020, 4:53 PM

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The 24 core is $1500 and the 32 core is like 2000?

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 4:53 PM

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Yeah, the 3970x is 2k and the 3960x is $1.4k

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 4:53 PM

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@waxen orchid nice rig!
Actually thinking about the gigabyte card, but I’ll have to talk to ASUS as well 😅

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 4:54 PM

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The 3970x might be the sweetspot, tho

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 4:54 PM

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If you're gonna build a computer you better do it right. Kek

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 4:54 PM

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As far as price to performance goes

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 4:54 PM

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Drop 4k on a processor.

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 4:54 PM

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Lol

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Yeah, it's a very purpose specific build

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 4:55 PM

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honestly a 3900x and powerful card is all you need, unless you plan on rendering out a feature length movie you're fine

waxen orchid Feb 22, 2020, 4:55 PM

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From what I saw from the 570x lineup the asus rog was the best one available at the time, had the best vrms

vapid crypt Feb 22, 2020, 4:55 PM

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I think its hilarious that Asus has been getting flack for their terrible mounting pressure on their AMD cards, cause they didn't run any testing. And what do they? They blame AMD "Oh we were told to use that mounting pressure." meanwhile no one else had any issue phaWesker

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 4:55 PM

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if you don't count the $1000 range then yeah

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 4:55 PM

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@strong whale Totally depends on the software being used and how quickly you want the job done.

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 4:55 PM

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Ive been looking at the Gigabyte X570 I AORUS PRO WIFI

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 4:55 PM

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well I do 3d modeling/rendering and even with my current rig it's already plenty fast

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 4:56 PM

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Lmao, exactly! That's why I've always preferred Sapphire to ASUS

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 4:56 PM

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and video editing

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 4:57 PM

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So the i7 compared to the Ryzen 7 which is better for processing?

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 4:57 PM

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Do you do it for yourself or for a company? I work for a construction company here in TX that needs equipment to render extremely detailed scans on a tight deadline that can be 'walked-through' via VR

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 4:57 PM

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Well 3ds max for example.

vapid crypt Feb 22, 2020, 4:57 PM

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Which i7 and which R7?

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 4:57 PM

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Intel for games, amd for everything else?

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 4:57 PM

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i have a x470 gaming 5 gigabyte aorus mobo and it's been nothing but good to me, where people complain is gigabyte's poor design choices in their software and the limited features of their bios', dunno whether or not their x570 has patched out those rough bumps or not though

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 4:57 PM

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😉

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 4:57 PM

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Oh 2700x

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 4:57 PM

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amd for everything now

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 4:58 PM

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I'm very dissatisfied with my MSI mobo atm.

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 4:58 PM

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Which is it?

waxen orchid Feb 22, 2020, 4:58 PM

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@dense wasp that one is pretty good too. When it comes to mini itx you dont get a lot of options sadly. But you can say your pc fits in a backpack which is awesome

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 4:59 PM

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and then you drop the backpack :o

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 4:59 PM

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I wouldn't even look at the 2000-series Ryzen CPUs anymore, the 3000-series is way more powerful and still priced competitively
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vapid crypt Feb 22, 2020, 4:59 PM

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Eh I dunno

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 4:59 PM

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actually gaming performance wise they are almost on par

waxen orchid Feb 22, 2020, 4:59 PM

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Or put it in a pelican case

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 4:59 PM

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the better ipc helps a lot though with workstation tasks though

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 4:59 PM

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IPC also matters in gaming

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 4:59 PM

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2700 is not only cheap as hell now but damn good still

vapid crypt Feb 22, 2020, 5:00 PM

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I disagree with that, the pricing you get for a last gen Ryzen part is extremely competitive. Even if you are losing out on gaming, it really isn't a big deal

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 5:00 PM

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yeah but the 15% doesn't directly scale for most games

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 5:00 PM

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I only got the 2000 series because it was like $165 on sale.

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 5:00 PM

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I suppose; I won't deny that the 2700x is still an impressive piece of hardware.

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 5:00 PM

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My PC is running the 3700 series

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 5:00 PM

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some games it's like a 5% difference between 2700x and 3700x

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meanwhile others it's like a 20% difference lol

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 5:01 PM

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@waxen orchid yeah, like 3 different or something 🙂

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 5:03 PM

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When your PC is so good that when you load games it yawns because its absolutely nothing.

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I know Factorio isn't a demanding game but my PC was sitting at idel ambient temps...

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Made me proud

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 5:04 PM

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When someone mentions loading screen tips and you forgot they exist

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Also factorio is freakin amazing

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 5:05 PM

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So can we get a web browser that doesn't eat 8 GB of RAM?

vapid crypt Feb 22, 2020, 5:05 PM

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I've never had a browser use that much RAM

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 5:05 PM

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I use chrome and i will have like 50 different youtube tabs in the background and it only uses like 2.5gb

vapid crypt Feb 22, 2020, 5:06 PM

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Maybe I'm just not liberal with the tabs phaWesker

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 5:06 PM

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Yeah, I typically only have around 3-4 tabs open

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 5:06 PM

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Same

vapid crypt Feb 22, 2020, 5:06 PM

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Firefox for me will use anywhere from 800mb - 1.2gb maybe

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Give or take

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 5:07 PM

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Should just shell out for 2 16 sticks.

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 5:08 PM

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yeah i have 2 x 16 corsair vengeance lpx and it works fantastic

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?t lfg @olive geyser

rugged notchBOT Feb 22, 2020, 5:10 PM

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Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 5:11 PM

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Idk of a B450 Tomahawk can handle that?

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 5:11 PM

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most modern mobo's support up to 64gb ram

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and as long as it has atleast 2 dimm slots (which any mobo will), you won't have any problems there

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 5:12 PM

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So I can run 64 GB of RAM?

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 5:13 PM

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dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 5:14 PM

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Man, this chat is not healthy for me

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 5:15 PM

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taking away from development time?

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 5:15 PM

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Now I want to setup a 3990x, to run all my computers in vm

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 5:15 PM

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ha

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 5:15 PM

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More taking away from my wallet

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 5:15 PM

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i can only dream of getting a 3990x

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 5:17 PM

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I would need 4 gpus for that thou..

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 5:17 PM

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I can probably get one in like 5 months, but its the case of do I want that or do I want a car for $2,000 more...

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680824234829938728

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?t lfg

rugged notchBOT Feb 22, 2020, 5:18 PM

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Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 5:18 PM

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i honestly feel like people do this on purpose

regal laurel Feb 22, 2020, 5:20 PM

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one 3990X allowes you to run four 3950s systems, but only pay for one motherboard and one case

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 5:20 PM

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true that

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it's honestly amazing that a 64 core processor can run games and at an acceptable standard performance-wise here in 2020

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 5:21 PM

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@dense wasp All you have to do is convince the rest of the dev team to build the 3990x system and then you can all work in VMs

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 5:22 PM

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I’m the hardware dude 😂

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 5:22 PM

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Oh, so it should be easy!

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Kik

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Lol*

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 5:22 PM

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I wonder, when partitioning cores to each virtual machine, can you set one to have like 8 cores and another to use 16?

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 5:22 PM

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Hm..

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 5:22 PM

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Yes

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 5:22 PM

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or would they all just share whatever is there collectively when any one of them need it

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 5:23 PM

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You can partition cores

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 5:23 PM

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Does anyone run water cooled set ups here?

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 5:23 PM

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I do, but it's not a custom loop

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 5:23 PM

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nope. nh-d15 here bby

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 5:23 PM

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It's just an AIO for now, but honestly, I don't know if I have the patience to do a custom loop

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 5:24 PM

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you are supposed to clean the radiator every few months too, which is much more tedious than blowing some dust off an air cooler

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 5:25 PM

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This is true

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 5:25 PM

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also custom loops don't benefit you for much more than aesthetics (usually)

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 5:25 PM

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Exactly.

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 5:25 PM

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Was thinking about buying a case for and sending it to someone to make it a liquid cooling system

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 5:25 PM

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So I don't really have the patience lol

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 5:25 PM

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unelss you wanna spend $150 on some high quality brass pipes

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 5:25 PM

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Nawp

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I'm not a fan of the steampunk look lol

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 5:26 PM

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The city must survive

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#frostpunk

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 5:27 PM

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Honestly, Jayz2cents, LTT, and Gamer's Nexus are great for case reviews and whether or not a case is good for liquid cooling.

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 5:27 PM

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jayztwocents is very biased though and he isn't afraid to admit it

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 5:28 PM

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True

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 5:28 PM

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he favors water cooling

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 5:28 PM

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But he's still smort

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 5:28 PM

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gamers nexus is reliable for clearcut descriptive info

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and linus is for gags and experimentation

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 5:30 PM

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I dunno, some of the Linus videos will actually give you really good information

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But Nexus is probably objectively the best for learning about hardware and performance.

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 5:30 PM

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oh i know i learned basically everything from linus

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as far as first starting anyways

regal laurel Feb 22, 2020, 5:30 PM

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does "make it a liquid cooling system" mean you want a full custom loop or "he gonna put an AIO in..." ?

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 5:31 PM

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I also really like Paul's Hardware.

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 5:31 PM

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doesn't matter @regal laurel

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water cooling is water cooling

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as long as you have a good aio that's all that really matters

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 5:31 PM

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I dunno, there are cases with the loops built into them, so I think it matters a little.

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 5:31 PM

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I want my pipes to have liquid nitrogen in them.

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 5:31 PM

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Lmao

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You can't really do that, unfortunately, it turns to a gas when the temp is raised high enough

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 5:32 PM

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distilled water and specific dyes designed for loops works too

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only cleaning it isn't fun

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 5:32 PM

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Is Distilled water good?

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 5:32 PM

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Yeah, Distilled water is the standard.

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 5:32 PM

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it's what you should always be using

regal laurel Feb 22, 2020, 5:32 PM

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? there's quite a difference between having an AIO on the CPU only and potentially having all components watercooled i think

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 5:32 PM

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anything else is just for aesthetics

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 5:33 PM

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Oh... Thought it was like regular tap water Kek

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 5:33 PM

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ohhh you mean if you do a custom loop on the gpu too

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 5:33 PM

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Some companies make a janky specific liquid for it, but they can cause clotting and can gunk up your pump

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 5:33 PM

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yes that makes a big difference

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 5:33 PM

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GPU, RAM, Mobo, and CPU can all be liquid cooled

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 5:34 PM

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only ram isn't really necessary

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 5:34 PM

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Seems like a lot of work...

strong whale Feb 22, 2020, 5:34 PM

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unless you plan on pushing it to the limit on timings and clocks

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 5:34 PM

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It's a shit ton of work to do custom loops

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 5:34 PM

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I could just pay someone to make me a case for custom looping, no?

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 5:34 PM

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You could, but that would also be very expensive.

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I mean, there's always the route of CyberPower PCs where they do it all for you, but then you don't get the satisfaction of building a rig

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 5:35 PM

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Like Thanos says "A Small Price to pay" Kek Kek

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I just don't want to liquid cool piping myself.

regal laurel Feb 22, 2020, 5:37 PM

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hard to judge if you don't know what you want however. As said, you could just make a custom loop for the CPU, that's flexible tubing, 280-360 rad and be done with it. Or you could include multiple components, use hard tubing, fancy colors, multiple radiators etc.

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 5:37 PM

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I’ve never done any custom liquid cooling

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 5:38 PM

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I don't plan on every doing it lol the drawback with soft tubing is corrosion and the hard tubing lasts for a much longer time, but then you have to make sure you're making good, consistent bends

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More work than it's worth, imo

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 5:38 PM

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I'm a little nervous of it leaking.

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That's a fire waiting to happen.

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 5:39 PM

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Well, they do have proper fittings to prevent leakage, so as long as it's done properly, it's not a realistic concern.

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 5:39 PM

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I’ve always been a supporter of air cooling as well

waxen orchid Feb 22, 2020, 5:39 PM

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Unless overclocking is very important to you AIO liquidncooling is pointless

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 5:39 PM

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Noctua gang etc

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 5:39 PM

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This is true

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I'm going to be upgrading my 3600 to probably a 3700x and OC the shit out of it lol

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 5:40 PM

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And I’ve never been into rgb, I usually build with Fractal Design define c, sound dampened chassis

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 5:40 PM

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But that'll be after I upgrade from my Vega 56 to anything better.

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Fractal is fantastic.

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 5:40 PM

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Yeah, nice guys as well

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Swedish etc

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 5:41 PM

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I honestly thought it was
Be Quiet! > Noctua

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 5:41 PM

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I'll bet, they really care about the quality of their products.

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Naw, Be Quiet! isn't bad, but Noctua is top tier for quiet, high-performance fans.

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 5:41 PM

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They want you do believe that

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 5:41 PM

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I'll bet, they really care about the quality of their products.

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 5:41 PM

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😉

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 5:42 PM

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Idk...

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AwOo

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Hey Ludvig.... Question... I know you can't give us much detail, but did you guys change the quality of models of the characters in rundown #002?

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Like the crouched swing animation

regal laurel Feb 22, 2020, 5:53 PM

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you mean the swing at the door lock? the arms look different to me yeah

median moon Feb 22, 2020, 5:58 PM

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bro Scythe though

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they're like noctua... but cheaper
for the exact same performance

whole falcon Feb 22, 2020, 6:01 PM

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Scythe is pretty good for performance, but it's not quite as quiet. Depends on the case, though.

regal laurel Feb 22, 2020, 6:03 PM

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the ninja 5 is really quiet cause its fans are limited to 800rpm :p

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 6:05 PM

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@regal laurel not that I mean if you look at another person swinging while crouched and (I think) standing up it looks awkward.

vapid crypt Feb 22, 2020, 6:29 PM

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The Ninja 5 seems like the opposite of a Ninja though, too big to conceal itself phaWesker

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 6:45 PM

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@abstract kite those animations are in the pipe, but won’t make it this rundown

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It’s a bigger thing, we need to switch out every melee animation

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But we are working on them 🙂

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 6:45 PM

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Makes sense

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 6:45 PM

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We have them mocaped and stuff

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As with other stuff, we want them to look good enough to switch out etc

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 6:46 PM

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I have no idea gaming coding language, but it sounds difficult.

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 6:46 PM

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We are switching out most of the weapon reloads this time around thou

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 6:47 PM

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Will weapons also have, depending on the weight of the weapon, longer reload time?

dense wasp Feb 22, 2020, 6:47 PM

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Think they already do take different times

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Not sure thou

abstract kite Feb 22, 2020, 6:48 PM

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Same

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Maybe.

median moon Feb 22, 2020, 7:07 PM

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does this mean melees are getting individual stats? 👀

vapid crypt Feb 22, 2020, 7:10 PM

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I hope not, that will upset the balance of melee preference

median moon Feb 22, 2020, 7:11 PM

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yeah but like

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having the melees use different stats would make choosing one actually matter

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instead of Me like gavel Me like sledgehammer

vapid crypt Feb 22, 2020, 7:14 PM

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And then everyone will use the same two hammers probably, one that does the most damage per swing and the one that has the fastest swing

median moon Feb 22, 2020, 7:15 PM

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having one with the longest range and one with a balance between all of them wouldn't be overlooked :l