#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk

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vapid crypt
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Its Nvidia, they've been giving us an 11gb TI card for two generations

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ye

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They're too cheap to give us 12

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I took the whole 20 gig vram lightly, but I am hoping for a more efficient card

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Best case it has 12, and anything above that will have a bit more. Probably 16

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also wanted something with less of a fancy heatsink and fan since im water cooling

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seems like a waste to just strip a card that has all kinds of fancy shit on it

median moon
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motherfucker

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ok so

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there's an orange light on the inside of the rift and it's not registering my displayport

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facebook i HATE you

vapid crypt
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Damn you Mark Zuckerberg, you water sipping android!

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my rift setup did this thing where it wouldn't see that my sensors weren't plugged in

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If I wanted to play it, I had to unplug it and plug it back in

merry bay
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Try a different port on your GPU. Sometimes makes a difference.

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think glass was using a laptop

median moon
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yes

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pretty sure the issue is just the drivers

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hopefully a restart fixes it.

eternal cairn
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I just restart the software.

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Go to Task Manager and end all tasks related to OVR.

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Then launch the Oculus app again and put on the headset.

median moon
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didn't work

vapid crypt
median moon
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ugh, fucking hell

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i want to punch everyone who said they set up the rift s in 15 minutes

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all blasphemy

eternal cairn
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It took me more like 20 minutes to set mine up.

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Now I'm just afraid of unplugging it.

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I've set up and taken down my rift so many fuckin times

quick turtle
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I unplug my rift every time I use it because it’s hdmi and one of my monitors on my desk is only hdmi it’s a struggle but I never had to go reset it up

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There have been times where I take my PC and VR setup to a friend's house so we can all do stupid shit

quick turtle
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Ah, yeah that I’m not gonna do

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Or just move my stuff to one of the living rooms because my room too small

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Want to get rid of my bed and just have the matress on the ground so there's one less thing for me to smack

quick turtle
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😂

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I smack my fucking yeti so much when in VRV

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Vr*

eternal cairn
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Do none of you use the Guardian setup? 🤦

quick turtle
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It’s Garbo

eternal cairn
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It is.

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But I still set it up every time.

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Only because it does work until you take the headset off. LUL

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I use guardian, it's just ass sometimes

quick turtle
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As do I

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I disable the grid

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Keep the lines on the floor

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Shit gets annoying when I'm tryna grab something in boneworks

quick turtle
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plays vrchat like a degenerate

eternal cairn
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LUL

quick turtle
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Sorry I meant mirror simulator

eternal cairn
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There ya go.

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If only avatar testing in Unity was actually 100% the same as testing in VRChat.

quick turtle
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Lol

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I’m going to get full body. Even if I have to buy another headset.

eternal cairn
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Why though?

quick turtle
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But first comes a monitor with a dvi port

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Lmfao stupid lg on my desk

eternal cairn
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I got an ASUS and a Samsung monitor.

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I have one of them basic ass hp monitors

eternal cairn
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LOL

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And a real nice MSI curved monitor

quick turtle
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I broke my very high end msi monitors, and replaced it with a decent aoc monitor

eternal cairn
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What's the point of a curved monitor? To take up less space?

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Was cheap at the time

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And makes games look nice

quick turtle
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Aesthetic

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For looks really

eternal cairn
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Wouldn't it just make games look skewed though?

quick turtle
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No

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Mines only slightly curved

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It's better for single player games rather than fps

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For when you take in the scenery and shit

quick turtle
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Ima go for a 240hz monitor soon tm

eternal cairn
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Imagine having a monitor with a curve that's almost the same as the UI skewing in GTFO. LMAO

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Imma buy two more monitors and I'm gucci

eternal cairn
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Then you can tell people you work at NASA. At least that's what people told me when they saw my plebby 2-monitor setup.

quick turtle
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Lol

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We have some people with quad setups at work

eternal cairn
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Sadly, I can't fit another monitor on my desk.

median moon
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tfw you dont even have room for more than one monitor

quick turtle
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Is 240hz worth it?

eternal cairn
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How big are your desks?

quick turtle
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Should i?

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Fps game ye

eternal cairn
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No.

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If you're super into competitive games

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Gives you a lil edge

eternal cairn
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A microscopic edge.

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Or in re2 when more frames means more dps from a knife

eternal cairn
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If you can't already counteract fast enough in 60 frames a second, there's no way you'll react fast enough no matter how many extra frames you have.

quick turtle
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is a gm overwatch player who is a Weeb main

eternal cairn
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🤢 Overwatch.

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We out here playing Minecraft

quick turtle
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plat 1 on seige

eternal cairn
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I play After Effects.

quick turtle
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Meh, I mean honestly overwatch isn’t that bad.

eternal cairn
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Overwatch is too mainstream and cartoonish.

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O fuck I gotta cancel my adobe trial

eternal cairn
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Bruh, just use AMT Painter.

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Noe

eternal cairn
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Yes.

quick turtle
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But I feel like I’m wasting my pc

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😂

eternal cairn
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Stick it to Adobe and their greedy conglomerate.

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I found cracked versions of the Adobe products

eternal cairn
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They all use the same crack. LUL

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But I'm downloading it all on a VM before I put my actual mschine

eternal cairn
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It's called EMT Painter.

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Or AMT Painter. I forget.

quick turtle
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is playing on only 144hz 1080p monitor
has 2080 super and ryzen 3800x
should really look into either 1444p monitors or 4K ones instead of 240hz

eternal cairn
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Resolution beats FPS in my opinion.

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Anything above 144hz is negligible, even in competitive gaming.

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My 2080 gets around 80-90fps in bl3 1440p

eternal cairn
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D:

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Was surprised to see improvement when I swapped from 2700x to a 3950x

quick turtle
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Your 2080 is in a laptop correct?

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No

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I have a desktop

quick turtle
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Okay

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eternal cairn
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Wait, what's BL3?

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Borderlands 3

eternal cairn
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Ohh.

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That's pretty bad.

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FPS-wise, I mean.

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It's a very unoptimized game

quick turtle
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Yeah no that game is hard to run

eternal cairn
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I thought people were saying it was the opposite of that.

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No

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Epic very much fucked it

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Along with it already being hard to run

eternal cairn
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Ohhh, it was ported by Epic?

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I had an i5-6500 for a while

eternal cairn
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I thought it had a dedicated port.

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Unplayable for bl3

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Epic only has it rn, and console

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Steam gets it soon

median moon
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epic bad

quick turtle
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I remember when I tried playing it with a fucking ryzen 5 1400 and a 1060

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I did not have a good time

eternal cairn
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If there's one thing Epic's good for, it's breaking the barrier of console exclusivity.

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It forces them background processes

median moon
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yeah but

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Molested my poor little i5

eternal cairn
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That's all they're good for.

median moon
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they're promoting marketplace exclusivity

eternal cairn
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Platform exclusivity > marketplace exclusivity

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I just liked unreal engine from it

median moon
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can't imagine trying to run bl3 on my laptop i5/1050

eternal cairn
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Plus, you can just pirate stuff from Epic's store. coxKappa

median moon
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😳

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yeah fair

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I have no issue with the game now

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Denuvo can't molest all 16 of my cores now

median moon
eternal cairn
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LUL

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Isn't piracy great?

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Yarrr

median moon
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yo ho ho

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And a bottle o

quick turtle
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My 8 cores aren’t getting molested either now

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Imma run bl3 on my athlon

quick turtle
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I was gonna get a 3950x but I was like meh

eternal cairn
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Athlon?

quick turtle
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Save some money

eternal cairn
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Same, Spirit.

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I almost wimped out but I already had the high end board for it

eternal cairn
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I'm happy with my 3900x.

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If imma splurge why not splurge everywhere

quick turtle
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I’m happy with my 3800x

eternal cairn
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And sell your apartment.

quick turtle
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I still don’t have a aio for it

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But I’m happy

eternal cairn
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I'm thinking of getting one.

quick turtle
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I’m using a stock cooler

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I use the cores for virtual machines

quick turtle
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Shits not good

eternal cairn
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However, I found out I screwed my fans on the wrong way.

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At least your shit was mounted

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Unlike my stock cooler lmao

quick turtle
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Lmao

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90c on idle

eternal cairn
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Bruh, that stock cooler for the 3900x sucks ass trying to get it on.

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And it barely cools off my processor.

quick turtle
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@eternal cairn I was struggling as well

abstract kite
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Interjecting

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I was going to use the stock cooler from the 2700x on the 3950x

quick turtle
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For a full hour just to meet temps I’m not at all happy with

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Decided that's not a good idea

eternal cairn
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I'm considering getting a 240 mm AIO.

quick turtle
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Same

abstract kite
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Nahhhh

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Cooler master has one

abstract kite
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get a dark rock 4 pro

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😛

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$60ish

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I'm using one as a temporary one and my shit didn't get toasty after running time spy

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I like it so far

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I'll let y'all know if it shits on me anytime soon

eternal cairn
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My only concern is that one guy who said his started leaking randomly.

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Flex seal before installing

eternal cairn
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LUL

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What was that guy's name again?

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Chris Hanson

eternal cairn
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Ah.

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Wait no

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Billy Mays?

quick turtle
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No there are multiple people complaining

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I just read

eternal cairn
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Billy Mays died, I think.

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But I think it might be him.

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Yea that's the kaboom dude

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Phil swift

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There we go

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Saws shit in half

abstract kite
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@eternal cairn if your cooler starts leaking randomly, just get one of these

eternal cairn
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How many others were complaining, @quick turtle?

abstract kite
eternal cairn
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No.

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No no no.

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Chunky boi

quick turtle
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Nooo

abstract kite
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this post was sponsored by the air cooling gang

quick turtle
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Ewwww

eternal cairn
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Fuck yo air coolers!

quick turtle
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Jk I can’t talk I’m using a stock cooler

abstract kite
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I had an AIO before this

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in the same system

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leaked from the pump

eternal cairn
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I hate using the stock cooler, but it's all I have. 😦

abstract kite
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And higher temps

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than this

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when it was working

eternal cairn
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My old AIO only fits on an Intel motherboard.

quick turtle
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is now scared of aios

eternal cairn
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And the brand is "Asetek".

abstract kite
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Dude

eternal cairn
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So I can't find any mounting brackets from them.

abstract kite
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almost all AIOs use asetek pumps

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only ones that dont to my knowledge are cooler master and the corsair platinum

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any other cooler

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no matter the bran

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*brand

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will have an asetek pump

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The lighting on it kinda looks inconsistent

eternal cairn
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Anyway, if anyone wants my working AIO, I'll sell it for a measly $20.

abstract kite
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Lol

eternal cairn
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Are those RGB strips?

finite sentinel
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Is it normal for SVT/IOMMU to require an increase in dram voltage? <.<

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Rgb cabling yuh

eternal cairn
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Any increase in voltage doesn't seem like a good idea to me.

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@quick turtle not trying to further scare you, but I would have lost my graphics card if I had not vertically mounted it at the time of the leak

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All the coolant fell right onto the extension for the vertical bracket

finite sentinel
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i had to increase my dram voltage by .01v to boot with SVT/IOMMU turned on <.< otherwise it wouldn't boot

quick turtle
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visibly shaking but has warranty’s on everything

eternal cairn
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You've scared the young lad senseless, @abstract kite!

abstract kite
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Hah!

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I'm doing my job in the air cooling gang

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jk jk

finite sentinel
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<.<

eternal cairn
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Quit trying to convert people!

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So what you're trying to say is

finite sentinel
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Speaking from experience... AIOs are fine if you do your homework

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I should shove a fuck ton of paper towels in my system

eternal cairn
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^^^

finite sentinel
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they are superior to air cooling IF you pick the right one and mount it properly and use the proper paste

eternal cairn
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And make sure your fans are facing the right way.

finite sentinel
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ALWAYS make sure the air flow is moving in the right direction

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AIOs aren't for everyone, and they're a hit or miss really.
If you get one that works, sweet! looks clean in the system.
If you get one that leaks, well, good luck.

@finite sentinel can homework save bad craftsmanship even if it's from a reputable company?

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Lets say

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Corsair

eternal cairn
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Yeah, I placed all of my fans in backwards. LMAO

abstract kite
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or NZXT

finite sentinel
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You can always pre-test it

eternal cairn
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Air was blowing out the front and coming in from the top and back.

abstract kite
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Leaks dont always appear immediately though

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my system ran for one month straight

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perfectly fine

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then I had issues with it

eternal cairn
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My old AIO never leaked.

finite sentinel
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Which was it bearz?

abstract kite
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Corsair Platinum

eternal cairn
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Ew, the $120+ one.

finite sentinel
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which platinum? :p

abstract kite
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They all have the same pump

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but the 240mm

finite sentinel
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dual?

abstract kite
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if that's what you're asking

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yes

finite sentinel
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sounds like the H100

abstract kite
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240mm is dual

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yes

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that one

eternal cairn
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I wanna invest in more RAM sticks.

finite sentinel
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I read bad things about that one

abstract kite
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From what I heard, it was fine

quick turtle
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I have so much ram I really dont need

abstract kite
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Guess we had different sources

finite sentinel
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Maybe at the time

eternal cairn
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Maybe I'll wait another month for my YouTube allowance.

quick turtle
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32 gbs

finite sentinel
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I chose the Seidon 240m and ran with it for uh...

quick turtle
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Just two sticks

finite sentinel
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6-8years

abstract kite
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Interesting

finite sentinel
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my memory sucks on when i got it

eternal cairn
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That's what I want, Spirit.

finite sentinel
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and it's STILL a top water cooler

abstract kite
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I just don't get AIOs now tbh

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Either water cool or dont

finite sentinel
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just doesn't fit AM4

eternal cairn
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Or use mineral oil.

finite sentinel
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I'd totally use my seidon if i could =/

abstract kite
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By this time it's probably had some evaporation

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if you used if for that long

finite sentinel
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mineral oil would stress the pump and burn it out faster

quick turtle
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3600mhz 32gbs 2x16gb

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imma just throw my pc into a mini fridge

finite sentinel
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you'd need an engineered liquid

abstract kite
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@quick turtle what latency?

eternal cairn
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I need to get a house fan.

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House fan + AIO = compromise 🤝

finite sentinel
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I forget who but someone linked me a video about overclocking my dram

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the video overclocked voltage to 1.5

quick turtle
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16-16-16-36

abstract kite
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Decent timings

eternal cairn
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Too expensive.

abstract kite
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sounds like what I have

eternal cairn
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I can already tell it's too expensive.

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what brand?

finite sentinel
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overclocking my voltage to 1.5v for a 5% performance boost is NOT worth it

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wear it down way too fast

abstract kite
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^

finite sentinel
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the brand sounds like gskill trident

abstract kite
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This whenever someone tells me running my 3700x at 85C is fine

quick turtle
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G.skill

eternal cairn
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More voltage always = bad.

finite sentinel
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the trident z neo

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nice

abstract kite
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Z neo is 16-19-19-39 iirc

finite sentinel
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well @abstract kite 3700x is still within tdp... but it's stressful for sure

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I was going to go with g.skill but I went with corsair instead because it was cheaper at the time

abstract kite
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@finite sentinel I can adjust the tdp and make it a 3800x lul

finite sentinel
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There are multiple editions of the Z Neo :p

abstract kite
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Just dont choose to

eternal cairn
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I was gifted the RGB G.Skill Trident ones.

finite sentinel
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the RGB Trident Z Neo has multiple CL editions, 16-16-16-32 is one of them

abstract kite
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Send me a link

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curious now

eternal cairn
abstract kite
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Ahh that's regular RGB

eternal cairn
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Even though I'm not a fan of RGB.

abstract kite
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guud sticks though

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Off topic a bit

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but I just ordered a mouse bungee

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

eternal cairn
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Bungee?

finite sentinel
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ah sorry it's 16-16-16-38, the OC had it 14-16-16-32 my mistake

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the timings on my sticks are 16-18-18-36

eternal cairn
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Same.

finite sentinel
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yea 36 sorry

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i mistyped

abstract kite
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don't know why amazon rates it different but o well

finite sentinel
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but it can OC to 14-16-16-32

eternal cairn
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Oooh.

abstract kite
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Right now I have my mouse cable taped to my desk to remove drag

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drag is abysmal

eternal cairn
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LUL

abstract kite
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but I like the responsiveness of wired mice

quick turtle
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I have a g703

finite sentinel
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I need to get a new second monitor

quick turtle
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Never have to worry about cables

finite sentinel
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My Yamakasi died on me

abstract kite
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Wireless mice are heeeaaavyyyy

eternal cairn
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They're nay for me.

finite sentinel
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route the mouse cable properly and you don't gotta worry

abstract kite
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Mina

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cable

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drag

finite sentinel
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and heavier mice isn't a bad thing

abstract kite
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dawg

finite sentinel
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again, mount it properly and it won't drag :p

abstract kite
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I have

eternal cairn
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I still have the mouse that came with my prebuilt. LUL

abstract kite
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taped to the desk

finite sentinel
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i have it set up so my cable doesn't drag against the desk

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LOL taped to the desk...

quick turtle
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G703 feels like a wired mouse no latency at all

finite sentinel
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baaaaaaka

abstract kite
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It's not desk drag

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it's in the back

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that drag

finite sentinel
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yea i have it held up

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i have a proper dual monitor mount

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wack

abstract kite
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You're not understanding but that's okay

finite sentinel
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the mouse is routed through it's cable routing

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no no you're saying the weight of the cable going from desk to PC is causing drag

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i understand

abstract kite
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Not everyone has dual mounts lol

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My arm holding my vertical monitor just made another creak

abstract kite
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so that solution isnt viable for most

finite sentinel
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i have my mouse cable routed so there is excess cable

abstract kite
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^ same

finite sentinel
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and no gravity dragging

quick turtle
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@patent token throw the whole arm away

abstract kite
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@patent token blow on it

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bet

quick turtle
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Jk

finite sentinel
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tighten it :p

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no, I yoted it from a university

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thought it was being thrown away

finite sentinel
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LOL

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turns out it was fine, then I proceeded to lose a few screws

finite sentinel
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universities throwing things away? I've seen some that still have Apple2s

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eh screws can be replaced

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lmao we just threw away a fuck ton of precision desktops

finite sentinel
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especially if it's an M12 or M8

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and like 400 monitors a few months ago

eternal cairn
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Schools are dumb.

finite sentinel
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Precision POS

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replacing is too much work on something thats free

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if it dies it dies

eternal cairn
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Our school doesn't fix the computers; they just throw them away if they can't get an IT guy to fix it.

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wish my work would do that

finite sentinel
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I've been considering going back to school

eternal cairn
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Don't.

finite sentinel
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I dunno i think i need to reboot my brain with DMT first

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we constantly give staff older hardware

eternal cairn
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Higher education is a lie and partial scam.

finite sentinel
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@eternal cairn it would be enrichment my friend

eternal cairn
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Bullshit.

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Enrichment of shit you already know.

finite sentinel
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<.<

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kinda funny, I had to reimage like 40 optiplex 780s to staff thinking they were going to get fancy new machines

eternal cairn
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Just tell me I'm paying you simply "because".

abstract kite
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@eternal cairn remind me its a scam when I'm dealing with cyberattacks against banks after college 🤔

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^

finite sentinel
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Vocational schools are the scams

eternal cairn
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I meant the GE part was a scam.

finite sentinel
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but real universities are fine

eternal cairn
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Hence why I said "partial" scam.

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its a scam if you go for something dum dum

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and not all GE is a scam

abstract kite
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most two year degrees are a joke yea

finite sentinel
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I did my GE 15 years ago

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i'm good there

eternal cairn
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GE is a scam.

abstract kite
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bachelors and higher I can justify however

eternal cairn
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You can't prove otherwise.

finite sentinel
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When i say enrichment i mean elective type things

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languages

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it would be cool to learn latin

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And i've been meaning to learn python

abstract kite
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I learned latin in middle school

eternal cairn
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Everything regarding GE is just existential and has no evidence that it actually has any positive benefit to the main focuses of a person's life.

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just go buy one

abstract kite
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such a boring language ngl

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but it did help with spanish

finite sentinel
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it is but it's versatile

abstract kite
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so that's a plus

eternal cairn
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Versatile how?

abstract kite
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It's basically the root of many languages

finite sentinel
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I can make a game with it if i wanted

abstract kite
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Mater - mother in latin
Madre - mother in spanish
Mere - mother in french

patent token
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you lying fuck

eternal cairn
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LUL

patent token
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mater is that dude from cars

abstract kite
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LMAO

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Sausage

eternal cairn
#

If I want to learn Latin, I'll do it on my own time.

abstract kite
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English is an anglogermanic language

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so we have very little influence from latin

eternal cairn
#

I'd rather not be forced to learn it or something else.

abstract kite
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only in the words we have borrowed from other languages

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Wait my 2am brain isnt kicking in

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yes

patent token
#

fun fact, I need to get ready for work in 5 hours but I kinda forgot that most tea's have caffeine in them

abstract kite
#

we have latin influence

eternal cairn
#

I will admit though, a lot of cool ominous names and phrases come from Latin.

abstract kite
#

^

finite sentinel
#

unus annus :p

eternal cairn
#

Dominus Tempus = Lord of Time

patent token
#

sounds like some BDSM thing

abstract kite
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Keep it sfw

finite sentinel
#

unus annus = one year

abstract kite
#

also if we gon keep talking about this we should jump to #general

eternal cairn
finite sentinel
#

Uh yea, anyone know why turning on SVT/IOMMU would require me to boost my dram voltage to post? -_-

kindred fiber
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Hi! I would like to ask quetion about Choosing the right VGA for my PC Build

abstract kite
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@eternal cairn really the only place for this conversation?

eternal cairn
#

🤷

abstract kite
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@kindred fiber ask away!

finite sentinel
#

yeesh who calls it vga anymore

kindred fiber
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i'm considering a Asus Rog Strix 2016 vs a Zotac 2060.Only gaming

abstract kite
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You called AMD AMD/ATI before mina 😛

kindred fiber
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*2060\

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*Asus Rog Strix 2060

finite sentinel
#

true

eternal cairn
patent token
#

real gamers still game on matrox cards

finite sentinel
#

stop remembering things

abstract kite
#

Hehehehe

eternal cairn
#

Why is it saying all of my cores are at 2193.59 mhz?

kindred fiber
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Zotac is a lot cheaper,should i choose Zotac /

patent token
#

zotac has made some pretty good cards

abstract kite
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@kindred fiber Can I suggest an EVGA card?

kindred fiber
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Zotav 2060 Twin Fan

finite sentinel
#

Anyway, you'll see large increases in price across cards... there's no reason for a rog strix as it's the same thing as a cheaper card of theirs but overclocked

patent token
#

the AMP lineup is pretty good

kindred fiber
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Oh there's AMP here too

finite sentinel
#

Get the EVGA XC Super 2060/70

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XC gaming

kindred fiber
#

i hear about the EVGA

patent token
#

get an RTX titan

kindred fiber
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they make very good VGA

patent token
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only gotta sell a leg or two

finite sentinel
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rog strix is selling you a name

patent token
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yes

abstract kite
#

Anyway, you'll see large increases in price across cards... there's no reason for a rog strix as it's the same thing as a cheaper card of theirs but overclocked
@finite sentinel

this is true. You're getting a custom PCB with the Asus to my knowledge, but you're also paying for Asus ROG name. I can't say for sure what you get with Zotac.

@kindred fiber

patent token
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I don't like the looks of my strix card

finite sentinel
#

Yea rog strix is basically the same thing as a similar base clock card but OCd and customized to look cooler and perhaps have marginally better cooling

abstract kite
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I'll go asus motherboards personally because i like the BIOS ui, but nothing else in my system will probably ever be asus

eternal cairn
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I went with ASUS because it was cheaper.

abstract kite
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ironically I have an asus monitor

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

finite sentinel
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just buy the cheap base model of the clock you want then rig it with your own cooling <.< WATER COOLING!

eternal cairn
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And it had the ports I wanted.

patent token
#

I try to keep everything msi/corsair

finite sentinel
#

i have a rog swift... but not for the name, it actually IS quality

patent token
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only because thats the stuff I have already

eternal cairn
#

Actually, that's unironic, @abstract kite.

finite sentinel
#

tho the quality is marked up 200 bucks because of said name

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it's like... monitor 1 step down from this is 350-400 bucks... then this is 600

eternal cairn
#

Sorry, I just get OCD when people use "ironic" in the wrong sense. 😅

finite sentinel
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of course i paid 400 for this cause... deals

abstract kite
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No it's ironic

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because i said never

patent token
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can't argue with a good deal

abstract kite
#

but still have an asus piece in my setup

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so it has irony

eternal cairn
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But you said you would go for ASUS motherboards.

finite sentinel
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My father taught me the art of the deal... i could swindle Trump any day of the week :p

patent token
#

I buy things cheep, sell them normal price

abstract kite
#

@eternal cairn And I do, but I also said

but nothing else in my system will probably ever be asus

eternal cairn
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Hence you would go for something ASUS, which means that having an ASUS monitor is not as unexpected.

patent token
#

mostly because people in my area tend to not know what they're selling

abstract kite
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someone was selling a 2019 macbook pro for $300

abstract kite
#

Thats a good 2060s

patent token
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almost got it

eternal cairn
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I like my x570 ASUS Prime Pro.

finite sentinel
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There's no matching theme in my PC :p

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all different companies

abstract kite
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limited ports on it htough

finite sentinel
#

gigabyte aorus pro wifi x570

kindred fiber
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tks for the link

patent token
#

asus is the odd one out of the bunch in my rig

kindred fiber
#

gonna take a look at it

abstract kite
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@eternal cairn I have a ROG Crosshair VIII Hero cos I intend on getting a higher up 4000 cpu or 3950X in the future

finite sentinel
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Sen if you can afford the XC you should get it instead of SC btw

abstract kite
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otherwise I woulda gone for a TUF

finite sentinel
#

price is a factor though

abstract kite
#

Oh was that the SC I posted?

patent token
#

i got x570 msi godlike

abstract kite
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OH NO

patent token
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price went down by $100

abstract kite
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wrong card

eternal cairn
#

LUL

finite sentinel
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honest mistake but if his budget can't afford the XC the SC will suffice

eternal cairn
#

I got ASUS monitor and motherboard.

abstract kite
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this one better

eternal cairn
#

Now I just need to ditch my Toshiba HDD.

abstract kite
#

@eternal cairn Same so
Up top

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👏

finite sentinel
#

agreed

eternal cairn
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Toshiba sucks ass.

patent token
#

rip my old toshiba laptop with a 2nd gen i3

finite sentinel
#

i'm using the base model evga 2070 because it was the only one with a fking HDMI port

patent token
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played league and minecraft, thats bout it

eternal cairn
#

Toshiba memory sucks.

finite sentinel
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Did you know an HDMI to DisplayPort converter is insanely expensive?

patent token
#

I was looking at an evga card because of the simple design

abstract kite
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@finite sentinel rip offs really. its a shame

finite sentinel
#

agreed

abstract kite
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giant rip offs

patent token
#

the other 2070s have no hdmi?

finite sentinel
#

I will probably upgrade from the 2070 after next gen of cards

abstract kite
#

my 2070 has an hdmi

finite sentinel
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most 2070s have no HDMIs actually

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and no DVI

patent token
#

I had the xc black for the 2070 before I upgraded to the 2080

abstract kite
#

actually, hdmi to dp is pretty hecking cheap

finite sentinel
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well back then there were few choices

abstract kite
#

I'm hopefully upgrading this generation since I'm still using my 1070

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dvi to dp (active) is a whole other fuckin rip off

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I need moar juice for hashcat :3

finite sentinel
#

ah yes that's what i meant

eternal cairn
#

Anyway, I need to get back to finishing this video, so I'll probably be back in 30 minutes. feliciaWave

finite sentinel
#

DVI to DP Active is what i meant yea

abstract kite
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yeah thats like 150 usd

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disgusting

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@eternal cairn Good luck with the vid! 👋

finite sentinel
#

it was the DVI port i couldn't find

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not the hdmi

abstract kite
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Yeah my 2070 doesnt have dvi

finite sentinel
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i had to get the base model 2070 to get DVI

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pissed me right off

abstract kite
#

DVIs getting old 😄

finite sentinel
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it's fine for 1440p

patent token
#

leave dvi alone, its trying its best

abstract kite
#

Its great and fast but its outdated at this point

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DP is superior in all ways

finite sentinel
#

outdated but not obsolete, especially with people still using 1080p

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there's no reason to push DP on people

abstract kite
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yeah my old 144hz had DVI

finite sentinel
#

the majority of people STILL USE 1080p

abstract kite
#

yes there is @finite sentinel and you have just talked about why

kindred fiber
#

fun thing is

abstract kite
#

because its not on 90% of GPUS now

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Who's still using 1080p 🙋

patent token
#

yo soy

kindred fiber
#

when i get to see Rog Strix at showrooms

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it's qujite addictive

finite sentinel
#

yea it's not on them but it SHOULD BE

kindred fiber
#

beautifull i guess

abstract kite
#

Not really

finite sentinel
#

i use 1080p on my TV...

kindred fiber
#

especially the RGB

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metal backplate

patent token
#

I use comcast on my tv

abstract kite
#

Way bulkier. Less umph

#

my tv is MAD old 😎

finite sentinel
#

DP wasn't on most monitors til like 2016

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and even then 1080p has zero need for DP

abstract kite
#

thiqq and like 720p

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I still dont have a need to go to 1440p just yet, but my next upgrade (setup) will definitely incorporate those

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imo 1440p << 1080p 144hz

patent token
#

ye

finite sentinel
#

yep

abstract kite
#

I'm still on 60hz 🤣

finite sentinel
#

1440p 165 tho... that's nice :p

abstract kite
#

Next monitor will be 1080p 144hz

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Sad thing? I have 2 144hz monitors but one of them only has DVI and hdmi which means no 144hz on it 😦

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my new one has DP tho 😎

patent token
#

my hp monitor shit itself then hp decided to send me a better one instead of replacing it with the same model

finite sentinel
#

i recommend going 1440p60 over 1080p144

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the quality increase is greater and less performance problems

abstract kite
#

For competitive I need the 144hz

finite sentinel
#

oh ok

abstract kite
#

Depends on what games, really.

finite sentinel
#

yep

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I do 1440p165 so...

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yea

patent token
#

screw monitors

finite sentinel
#

i got best of both worlds

abstract kite
#

Luckey 😦

patent token
#

buy that samsung wall

finite sentinel
#

not lucky, thrifty

abstract kite
#

😛

finite sentinel
#

i got an open box product and RMAd it

abstract kite
#

Witcher, skyrim, story rpg stuff? 1440p60 is great.
Overwatch, r6s, csgo, etc.? 1080p144!

finite sentinel
#

bam new product

abstract kite
#

That's sick ngl

kindred fiber
patent token
#

my friend actually just bought one of those

finite sentinel
#

paying for a name

abstract kite
#

Give me one second

#

let me check that

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If you want a cheap good 144hz monitor mine at home is top tier

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i forget what its called

kindred fiber
#

@abstract kite can you gimme the name

finite sentinel
#

is that 1080p?

patent token
#

sceptre?

kindred fiber
#

FHD yes

abstract kite
#

I'm not getting much on this monitor

finite sentinel
abstract kite
#

MSI Optix MAG24

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hardly anything out there for it

finite sentinel
#

unless you want 1440p

patent token
#

optix monitors are great

#

at least the one I have is

kindred fiber
#

Maybe silly but is curved good for gaming ?

abstract kite
#

I really cant notice a difference

patent token
#

don't go out of your way for a curved monitor

abstract kite
#

It just happened to be discounted to 200 bucks so i bought it

patent token
#

^

kindred fiber
#

why not though

finite sentinel
#

Curved is gimmick BS

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it's meant to "Keep the monitor viewing distance constant"

abstract kite
#

Idk it doesnt really matter unless the monitor is big longe

finite sentinel
#

it's no real point

abstract kite
#

if you have a 1 monitor setup with one of those super ultra wide samsungs

finite sentinel
#

the one i linked is an extremely good buy

patent token
#

buy like 10 curved monitors to create a border around you

abstract kite
patent token
#

make it all once screen

abstract kite
#

long

kindred fiber
#

@finite sentinel i'm checking your link.Tks

abstract kite
#

but also expensive

finite sentinel
#

woshling is that UWHD?

kindred fiber
#

Oh the viewsonic

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sorry but i don't like Viewsonic Color

abstract kite
#

IMO viewsonics are ugly

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big bezels, ugly gray

kindred fiber
#

My favorite are LG,Samsung,Acer

finite sentinel
#

it's top rated for what you want

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but ok

abstract kite
#

i dont buy purely off looks but i also dont wanna buy a garbage dump

kindred fiber
#

Aw my bad

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i don't say it clearly

finite sentinel
abstract kite
finite sentinel
abstract kite
#

MSI is gamery but from the front its just thin bezels and stuff

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poor brightness though 😦

finite sentinel
#

rtings is a very good site for analyzing monitors

kindred fiber
#

@finite sentinel tks for the link

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@abstract kite yeah i gone through some MSI monitors but you can adjust the brightness.So it's gonna be a good one

finite sentinel
#

also it's a VA not a TN panel

#

TN panels are what give bad colors

abstract kite
#

Sadly max brightness is still kinda poopy though

#

i didnt really notice apart from a few dark games

#

but those just up the brightness 😄

kindred fiber
#

VA or IPS.That's what i'm looking for

finite sentinel
#

the viewsonic is VA

kindred fiber
#

TN blind my eyes lol

finite sentinel
#

the site can elaborate

abstract kite
#

Optix is also VA

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Lol went into the msi site "wide view angle" my ass

finite sentinel
#

If anyone knows other sites that actually do in depth analysis of monitors can link for him to cross reference

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woshling here's a contradiction "Wide View Angle" "Anti-Glare"

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the anti-glare coating makes the view angle terrible

patent token
#

I love them wide angels

finite sentinel
#

edited before you said that :p

abstract kite
#

But I will admit

#

i havent had a single screen tear thing

#

freesync worked with my 2070 on it

finite sentinel
#

nice

patent token
#

I hate the stand that the optix comes with

abstract kite
#

also it has one of those OSD joysticks

#

never realized how great those are

#

@patent token why

finite sentinel
#

Having a dual monitor mount makes things so much easier

patent token
#

so fuckin wide

#

I need to wait to be able to yote another monitor stand

abstract kite
#

Not really?

patent token
#

yes really

abstract kite
#

Nah

patent token
#

takes like twice the amount of space my old one did

abstract kite
#

My old one had like a panel blcok thing

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this is much superior

finite sentinel
#

heh

patent token
#

I just don't like how it spreads the legs so far out

abstract kite
#

also, i'd prefer a wider thing and it not falling over and killing itself

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😄

patent token
#

so imma wait for another arm to be thrown out

#

gotta live a little man

finite sentinel
#

yea i'd be in hell without my monitor mount

#

would have no desk space

patent token
#

I already have little desk space

#

kinda sorta

#

shits coming apart still

finite sentinel
#

Well, i'm a streamer so i've got more shit cluttering the desk

#

got an HDMI hub, my scarlet solo, my microphone mount my camera mount

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Damn hub isn't strong enough, need more throughput

#

streaming is expensive -_-

patent token
#

Arm I had was a pain to setup

finite sentinel
#

i don't recommend it

patent token
#

I don't have enough internet for streaming

finite sentinel
#

yea that's expensive too

patent token
#

200+ download but like 5 upload

#

also restricted to a max of 1 Tb of usage

finite sentinel
#

600 down 25up

#

it's annoying the disparity there

patent token
#

I want fiber

#

we just got fiber installed to our server rooms at work

#

but the people who did it were lazy as heck

finite sentinel
#

i have fiber to node

#

docsis 3.1

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i want true fiber 😦

patent token
#

eat them fiber one bars

finite sentinel
#

it's fiberific

abstract kite
#

i just fell asleep at my desk

#

oof

finite sentinel
#

how???? yeesh

patent token
#

wish I could do that

abstract kite
#

or dozed at least

finite sentinel
#

I can't even sleep in BED

abstract kite
#

I've been up to long haha

patent token
#

last monday I went to work running of 1 hour of sleep

#

had a monster and uncrustable for breakfast

abstract kite
#

I'll save myself a faceplant into my keyboard and go to sleep

I cant function without hibernating for a bit

patent token
#

straight vibin

abstract kite
#

I'll talk to ya lovely chaps later

#

take care

finite sentinel
#

nn

patent token
#

see yah

patent token
#

cannot see what it is but I have a good guess from the title

finite sentinel
#

i hate that the gifs sometimes don't post properly

#

i think it's coding issue in discord :p

#

yea

patent token
#

nope

finite sentinel
#

they borked

#

i think unless it ends in .gif it won't work

#

i mean if it's listed in the gif button it should fking work ya know? XD

patent token
#

maybe its disabled for this server

covert veldt
#

Think I should upgrade the SSD?

#

It's still a good one.

abstract kite
#

The 860 evo??

#

Nah, thats top tier stuff lol!

#

you can always toss in ANOTHER but dont replace the 860 evo its great

kindred fiber
#

i'm using Samsung 860 EVO 500GB for more than 1 year. It's really good.So far no issue.

brisk badger
#

the ram could be improved

#

also is that speccy software? it's crap

#

cannot read most information even properly

#

nvidia 1080 with 4gb? Hello 32bit

patent token
#

You system seems pretty good

#

Besides some of the info being wrong on whatever software you're using

covert veldt
#

lolwut

#

Why is speccy showing 4GB when it's 8GB?

#

This is what I bought.

#

At least dxdiag is working correctly.

patent token
#

Nice

covert veldt
#

Also yeah, it's speccy. @brisk badger

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I'm open to what other programs I can use to show off stuff simiilar to speccy.

#

I'll take suggestions for a RAM upgrade.

patent token
#

Lmao that's fine

#

32 gigs is plenty of headroom

#

Unless you're doin intensive tasks

covert veldt
#

Not really no.

#

They were on sale.

#

So I bought four of them surprisingly cheap.

patent token
#

I did the same thing

#

4x16 sticks of ddr4 3200 Corsair dominator platinum rgb

#

Hasn't let me down yet

covert veldt
#

I do occasionally run VMs.

#

Nothing serious.

patent token
#

I planned on doing a lot of VMs with my system

#

Why I opted for a 3950x and a lot of memory

abstract kite
#

why

fleet canopy
#

“I planned on doing a lot of VMs with my system”

covert veldt
#

I mostly wanted to tinker with old games in old Windows OS.

patent token
#

We out here gaming on windows me

covert veldt
#

I've been using Win98 for most of my old gaming stuff.

abstract kite
#

fix it then

patent token
#

Tell dell no

covert veldt
#

Ha ha.

#

No.

#

Dell is tresh.

patent token
#

Dell is not so with the shits

vapid crypt
#

Since I learned about it, Dell will always be that company that took discount chips from Intel as long as they didn't get any from AMD. Funny seeing a lot of their computers with Ryzen now, but it was shitty that Intel did that; and Dell was complacent.

patent token
#

Dam

#

Last week I outprocessed like 100 thin clients

#

Someone lost the file saying which ones are going to be sent out

#

Hate these mini hp computers

dawn mason
#

Just curious, how many of you are giong to jumpship from intel and nvidia to full AMD when they start releasing their CPUs and GPUs this year?

jade ermine
#

Ditched intel when first gen of ryzens came out. Probably sticking with Nvidia until AMD has serious high end card

compact pier
#

NVIDIA erry day

#

RTX is bae

#

NVIDIA is Costco, AMD is Sam's Club

dawn mason
#

My current rig was built in 2015 and it's still going strong. I only recently upgraded my GTX980 Ti to a RTX2080 Ti. The GTX 980Ti is still reliable and strong.

compact pier
#

Not even comparable

dawn mason
#

I'm actually looking forward to AMD when they start releasing 4k capable GPUs

jade ermine
#

AMD 1080Ti competitor 2020

dawn mason
#

something on par with RTX 2080 Ti

jade ermine
#

jokes aside i would be happy to see high end card from them

dawn mason
#

One the things I'm not liking about Nvidia is their G-sync tech

dusty pumice
#

Wall of white names i love it!

jade ermine
#

Thing i dont like about Nvidia is their pricing😙

dawn mason
#

Gsync cost more than freesync on a similar monitor model

#

price difference can get rediculous

jade ermine
#

Got my 2080 when it was brand new 870e

#

was hoping to get Ti before launch
Jensen pulls the card out under his leather jacket "1299e!" "the more you buy the more you save"

#

fuuuck that

dawn mason
#

The monopoly is real

median moon
#

orange name

jade ermine
#

hopefully it gets better with next generations. Rtx being the new meme feature to milk people probably raised the price alot.

compact pier
#

haha

acoustic loom
#

oi uh, anyone have any idea why i can't hear people on the discord channels when I'm playing this?

compact pier
#

because you have voice set to 0

acoustic loom
#

like in discord

dawn mason
#

have you tried testing your voice settings on discord?

vapid crypt
#

Everything just works. Spend 1200 now, don't spend 1200 later. PirateSimon

formal vale
vapid crypt
#

In the corner there it says you're launching the Beta, GTFO Beta is down now. The game is on Early Access

stiff rock
#

the more i'm doing my researches, and the more it seems like the 2080ti is just a cashgrab compared to 1080ti, what do you guys think?

#

Unless you are streaming i guess

#

from what i've got, FPS wise, it's like a 25% boost for triple the price, of course that can change from game to game, i'd like to hear opinions from somebody who understands GPU more than me, basically most people in this chat

sick reef
#

It's a cashgrab, but it's not triple the price.

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1080 Ti was the same.

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1200 euro to the 1080 with 800-900.

eternal cairn
#

Okay, both Core Temp and CPU-Z are saying that my core speed is at 2195 MHz. How do I fix that?

merry bay
#

If you're a dev or nerd enough to mess around with RTX there's value there too.
If 1080ti fps seem attractive for you, it's still a great choice.
It's just enough for most games to edge out 60fps@4k with medium+ settings(as long as your CPU keeps up)

sick reef
#

There's often hardly enough value to justify the percentual price increase.

#

But to some, price doesn't matter.

eternal cairn
#

Never mind. It turns out I had power saver on.

#

I hate Windows 10...

stiff rock
#

thanks for the replies!

vapid crypt
#

25% more performance for a 70% price hike is literally the 2080ti compared to the 1080ti

eternal cairn
#

Yeah, I'm sticking with my 1070 until prices dip down.

sick reef
#

Disregarding frame timings, obviously.

eternal cairn
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It's not worth the upgrade at that price when I only run 1080p60.

sick reef
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But yeah, if you have a decent card, waiting is your best option right now

stiff rock
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yeea i do have a 960, nothing too fancy, but i wanted to move to 144fps (and i wouldn't mind using low graphics, keep that in mind, i'm quite used to it)

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that's why i was doing my researches on 1080 and 2080

vapid crypt
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144 in what?

stiff rock
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let's say rust, for example.

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given i know it aint well optimized

vapid crypt
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Oh boy Rust

sick reef
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I think the even the 5700XT could do shit tier 144Hz.

eternal cairn
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Why Rust though?

vapid crypt
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I'm not familiar with how that game runs

sick reef
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Likely, because he plays it.

vapid crypt
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I just know its not optimized well

eternal cairn
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Unless you're in one of those 10k resource battleground servers, I don't see a point in that FPS.

stiff rock
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Cause it's the worse example in terms of optimization i can think of BestMod

vapid crypt
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If you're using a 960 now, what's your CPU?

sick reef
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144Hz is achieveable with a lot, if you're willing to lower settings and resolutions.

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You don't have to set the bar higher than you want to jump, with a new GPU.

vapid crypt
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I can get 140 - 160 in RE2R just lowering the image quality to 80% with my 580

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Absolute low settings causes it to downclock and it runs like shit at that point, actually worse

sick reef
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Image quality? Is that downscaling, or is it the only setting availabe?

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Resolution downscaling, that is.

vapid crypt
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I think its something like that, that's what the setting is called

eternal cairn
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What other settings are there?

vapid crypt
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It doesn't look much worse than 100% either

sick reef
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Aye.

vapid crypt
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Bunch of post processing effects, shadows and the like

eternal cairn
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I almost always set shadows to medium.

sick reef
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And a 580 I think is equalient in fps specifically to a 1060, around.

stiff rock
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@El Demonio#9598 i3-6100, it's a fairly old rig

sick reef
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Don't keep track of the supers as they mean jack shit.

vapid crypt
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Yeah that'll bottleneck a better gpu then

sick reef
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Not by a ton.

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Or well

vapid crypt
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No not a ton, depends on the game

sick reef
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Depenss on background processes.

stiff rock
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Np about that, i'll remake a new one with an i9-9900k

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Or at least

vapid crypt
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Uh I mean I wouldn't recommend that phaWesker

stiff rock
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That was my initial tought

sick reef
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A cheap 8700K would be a good option.

stiff rock
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I might find out the same as 2080ti, cashgrab BestMod

sick reef
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Not as much of one.

stiff rock
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Still need to research it tbh

sick reef
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You have to go X series to find cashgrabs

vapid crypt
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New GPUs are coming out later in the year, 2080ti is not a good buy as it is. But right now its probably the worst time to get one

sick reef
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2060, 2060S, 1660S, 1660, 1550S. Around that, what ever is cheapest, would be feasible.

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Which, if I remember performance correctly, is why the 5700XT is also suitable.

stiff rock
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And which cpu would go well with a 1080ti? Main goal is gaming

sick reef
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Doesn't fully matter what CPU.

vapid crypt
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If its newer than a 7700k, and has more cores then its fine

stiff rock
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Just to avoid bottleneck basically

sick reef
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I7 for intel is preferred, but you are talking about negligeable differences, disregarding bottlenecks.

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8700K would be great, if found cheap.

vapid crypt
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This goes across the board for any platform

sick reef
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Due to the 8-series architecture.

stiff rock
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I might scrap the 2080ti + i9 option tbh, it seems overkill

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Cause that's what i tought for my new rig at the start

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Thanks for your time

sick reef
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It is overkill. If you want value, there are a lot of options right now, both CPU as GPU.

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But I understand the thinking.

vapid crypt
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2080ti is if you're planning to play stuff at 4k at like 90+ FPS or something, or even like high refresh 1440. But at that point cheaper cards can handle that as it is

sick reef
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2080 Ti is if you want the most expensive consumer card.

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Because you want the most expensive consumer card.

vapid crypt
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I don't care what Nvidia says, the Titan is a consumer card phaSip

sick reef
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And the Titan won't give you any more FPS at double the price

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Titan is big dicking: the graphics card.

stiff rock
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look at it this way, i saved up some cash with the goal of making a really good PC with the goal of getting 144 fps EVEN at the cost of loweing graphics settings. Potentially, i'd like to reach it with medium on most games. However, the more i'm doing my researches, and the more it seems like going for a 3k pc doesn't give you THAT much more value than let's say a 1.5k one, if you get what i'm trying to say

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i'd be fine to go for a 3k build, but if i don't get much from it, i'd rather not, if you get what i mean

vapid crypt
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144fps at 1080p or what?

stiff rock
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that's what i initally planned, yea

merry bay
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I'd say you don't want to barely meet that target, you want to be a bit above that for slight leeway

vapid crypt
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Cause you can get that with sub 1000 depending on what games we're talking about

merry bay
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9700K + 1080ti is probably that point

sick reef
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Eeh

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1080 Ti and I can still crank and get 1440p144Hz

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You can aim lower

stiff rock
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personally i never cared too much about 1080 - 1440p 2k ecc, it might be just me but i don't see that much of a difference.. it seems like once you get to 720p anything behind that just makes it a bit sharper

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again, might just be me

sick reef
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I value frames and pixels, but not pixels for frames. 1440p is a good middle ground

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Suffices that my computer handles it well.

stiff rock
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yea i also value FPS by A LOT

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so i'd not goo TOO high on resolution to not lower them, maybe that 1440p would be a good middle ground