#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk | GTFO | Page 72

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 4:14 AM

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yeah, and 3 by 3

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I know

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 4:14 AM

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So I can't stress this enough, for RAM you need Dual channel especially for Ryzen

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 4:14 AM

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Sad that i eill start playing with one stick with the apu

fleet canopy Feb 4, 2020, 4:14 AM

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Not exactly same pretty much lol

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 4:14 AM

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Dual channel for anything really, just better data management

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 4:14 AM

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Get 2 4gb sticks if your budget is that tight

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 4:15 AM

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The apu is like 140 dollars and i probably have like 50 or 60

fleet canopy Feb 4, 2020, 4:15 AM

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And if anything, you could probably pick a graphics card out only if it is better than APU graphics Kek

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 4:15 AM

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50 or 60 more

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 4:16 AM

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Cause how it works is the APU uses the system memory for its video, so it will by default allocate 512mb. You gotta change it in the BIOS to 2gb. That's as high as it goes

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 4:16 AM

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Ok

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I cant do overclock bc i have a a330m hdv

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A320m hdv

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 4:17 AM

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Uh did you update the Bios already?

fleet canopy Feb 4, 2020, 4:18 AM

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Oh the motherboard, hm

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Funny, thinking you had a B450 hopefully

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 4:18 AM

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Not yet i still have to update it one more time but i will do it when i have the apu

fleet canopy Feb 4, 2020, 4:18 AM

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You need to update before APU

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 4:18 AM

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I knoe

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Thats ehat i said

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I cant talk

fleet canopy Feb 4, 2020, 4:19 AM

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Best to do on updating before buying it, rather than having paid the money for something not comapctible

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 4:19 AM

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In the motherboard page it says that it is compatible

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 4:19 AM

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I wouldn't overclock an APU anyways

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unless you have better than stock cooling

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 4:20 AM

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That Athlon 3000g overclocks like a champ apparently phaWesker

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 4:20 AM

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I will use stock

fleet canopy Feb 4, 2020, 4:20 AM

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You’re fine off with stick

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Stock

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 4:21 AM

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I now have a a8 9600 so i think its eorth the upgrade

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 4:21 AM

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the boost levels for a 3200g negate any real need for an overclock

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should be fine with stock levels

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 4:22 AM

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I have 1x8

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 4:22 AM

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I think most motherboard when you update to support the newer cpus, it removes support for Bristol Ridge which is uh what the a8 9600 is

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 4:22 AM

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Yes

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 4:23 AM

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Oh that's the Gigabyte board right?

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 4:23 AM

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Asrock

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 4:23 AM

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Oh okay, yeah that's uh I remember reading that... hang on let me look it up

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 4:23 AM

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as long as his new cpu works with the BIOS update his older one not being compatible anymore won't be an issue

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 4:24 AM

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Theres an bios update before the last one that has the compatibility for ryzen cpus

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And the last one makes the a8 9600 not eork

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 4:24 AM

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Oh okay I guess I misread what it said

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 4:24 AM

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no worries then

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 4:25 AM

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But in the cpu support section there are 2 r3 3200g

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One label is 3200G and the other one is like 320gC

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 4:25 AM

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I would imagine desktop/laptop variants?

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320gC?

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 4:26 AM

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Let me find it first

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 4:26 AM

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Um there's the 3000g

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That's the Athlon

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 4:27 AM

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3200GE?

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that's a mobile/laptop apu

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less GHz

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less TDP

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35W vs 65W

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 4:27 AM

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📎 Screenshot_20200204-012736_Chrome.jpg

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Look

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 4:28 AM

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yeah 3200GE is a laptop cpu

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 4:28 AM

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That's a Ryzen Pro part

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Its like a Chinese market chip

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Don't worry about it

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 4:28 AM

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But the tdp from one is 45 65 and the lower one is 65

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 4:29 AM

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the GE is a low power chip for laptops

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the G is for desktops

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 4:29 AM

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It says Desktop here

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 4:29 AM

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65 watts for G, 35 watts fr GE

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 4:29 AM

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So the lower one that i marked is the one that i should care about?

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 4:29 AM

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you want a standard chip that runs 65TDP

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 4:30 AM

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What?

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Look there are 2 r3 3200g which one i should care about

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 4:31 AM

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That's just a lower clocked part, its the same thing. The TDP is lower cause its base and boost are lower

fleet canopy Feb 4, 2020, 4:31 AM

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The 3200G

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 4:31 AM

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https://www.amd.com/en/products/apu/amd-ryzen-3-pro-3200ge

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 4:31 AM

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But which one xd

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 4:31 AM

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get the one that has a TDP of 65W and a base clock of 3.6GHz and a Boost clock of 4.0, that is the default standard for 3200G

fleet canopy Feb 4, 2020, 4:31 AM

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65W

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 4:31 AM

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Ok thats what i needed thanks

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 4:31 AM

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You're not gonna find the GE anyway

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 4:32 AM

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the lower TDP one has a lower base and boost clock speed

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 4:32 AM

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I'm pretty sure its only in specific markets

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 4:32 AM

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that could be true, I have no clue

fleet canopy Feb 4, 2020, 4:32 AM

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Whatever is GE

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 4:32 AM

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"efficiency" I assume shrugs

fleet canopy Feb 4, 2020, 4:33 AM

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Hm

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 4:33 AM

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Seems like something you would pop into a office PC, or for basic spreadsheet management for a business

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 4:33 AM

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probably

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 4:33 AM

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One last thing are you sure that with 1 stick 8 2400 can i run sgo rainbow at probably 60 at 768 and gta 5 at 40 50 fps also at 768?

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 4:33 AM

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Oh no you need Dual Channel

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Especially for GTA

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I have a buddy that went from averaging like sub 50fps cause he only had one stick, to over 60

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 4:34 AM

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reference vid

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8AdbIfTwDs

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 4:34 AM

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Ok i will se what i can do when i buy it

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I already saw some benchmarks and they played gta 5 at 30 at 1080p

fleet canopy Feb 4, 2020, 4:35 AM

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2x4GB at 3200Mhz and 19Cas or lower

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 4:35 AM

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And that's likely with fast ram, Dual Channel

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 4:35 AM

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this vid has a setup comparing 1x8 and 2x4 ram setups

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 4:35 AM

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But with one stick only

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 4:35 AM

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shows a difference of 20~ fps between them

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 4:36 AM

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Yeah

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 4:36 AM

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and less quality on the video with the single stick, you can see very visible blotching

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 4:36 AM

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Idc about that

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 4:36 AM

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like, you can certainly run the games

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and most likely enjoy them and have fun

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they just won't run 1080p60fps

fleet canopy Feb 4, 2020, 4:36 AM

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15FPS Payday 2 is fun

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60FPS+ payday 2 eh

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 4:37 AM

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Ok i eill not play at 1080p

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 4:37 AM

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I used to play DayZ at 17fps in 720p on my old Acer

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had fun, but I could never go back ot that lol

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 4:37 AM

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Xddd

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 4:37 AM

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and that was an a8 3820APU I believe

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6GB ram

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3 sticks lol

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3x2GB

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 4:38 AM

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📎 JPEG_20200204_013815.jpg

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Playing gta 5 with my pc

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 4:38 AM

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oof

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 4:39 AM

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I still enjoy it xdd

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 4:39 AM

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what settings?

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 4:39 AM

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600p low

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 4:39 AM

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bruuuuutal

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 4:39 AM

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I can't remember what APU my laptop had now, but it was pretty low spec phaWesker

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And with a single 4gb stick of RAM

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 4:40 AM

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I have another pc with a intel pentium 1

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Total gamer

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 4:42 AM

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my old acer fried after a power surge, had to sell it for scrap

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 4:43 AM

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When i was younger i broke a good laptop bc i dropped milk

fleet canopy Feb 4, 2020, 4:43 AM

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Oof

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 4:43 AM

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o.0

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ouch

fleet canopy Feb 4, 2020, 4:43 AM

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My current keyboard got fucked with juice

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 4:44 AM

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Then when i went to repair it they couldnt do it and they gave me a super low spec pc

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 4:44 AM

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My laptop was an absolute junker, I spilled coffee on it. That broke the T key, and at some point something in the frame snapped, and made it so the left hinge couldn't close properly

fleet canopy Feb 4, 2020, 4:44 AM

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Juice fucking sticky as hell

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 4:44 AM

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Hahaha

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 4:44 AM

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shit I don't think I eve rspilled anything on my pc stuff haha

fleet canopy Feb 4, 2020, 4:44 AM

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Eventually got keyboard clean, so it’s probably as good as new now I guess haha

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 4:44 AM

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That was the first time I spilled something on a keyboard/computer so

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 4:45 AM

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I certainly hope I never spill anything on this new one o.0

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that would be costly

fleet canopy Feb 4, 2020, 4:45 AM

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Sill missing a few key caps and such but it’s not an absolute necessity

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 4:45 AM

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Imagine dropping milk in a 3k keyboard

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 4:45 AM

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I'd never buy a 3k keyboard haha

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 4:45 AM

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I'd be fine, my keyboard has a design that takes spills into account... though if its sugary that'll add to the cleaning

fleet canopy Feb 4, 2020, 4:45 AM

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Lol what keyboard is 3K

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Except ass currency

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 4:46 AM

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Tfue keyboard

fleet canopy Feb 4, 2020, 4:46 AM

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Hah

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 4:46 AM

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It has drain holes for water, someone actually tested it with this exact model

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Ran it under a faucet, then let it dry

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Worked fine

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 4:46 AM

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Good keyboard

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 4:46 AM

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nice

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 4:48 AM

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there was a time i dropped more milk in a keyboard

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had to borrow one from my cousin

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my a8 9600 its an apu so it should work better with dual channel?

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 4:50 AM

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Technically everything works better with Dual Channel

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 4:54 AM

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^

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 4:54 AM

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i noticed his comment

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 4:54 AM

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I'm just seconding it

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 4:54 AM

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´

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didnt work

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 4:55 AM

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but yeah, basically you can have 1 8GB stick on onechannel that can handle so much bandwith

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so splitting the 8GB across 2 channels for more bandwith means faster processing

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it's like you using just one hand to hold 10 pounds, instead of using both hands for 5 each

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more efficient, and less stress on the processor

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 4:56 AM

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^

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i saw benchmarks with 2400mhz and that. and it is in the middle of perfomance at 1080p so im good with that

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 4:57 AM

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all up to your preference

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I would always suggest having at least 3000MHz RAM speeds for Ryzen

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Ryzen underperforms with less than that

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 4:58 AM

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yeah i know the minimum price is 120 dollars for a 2x8 3200mhz here

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 4:58 AM

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but if it's still going to perform better than your current setup, it's still a win until you can afford better speed RAM

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 4:59 AM

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i spent like 400 dollars for this pc and for 380 i could get a pc with a ryzen 3200g

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 5:00 AM

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$400 how long ago though? 😛

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I paid about that much for my old Acer from 8 years ago

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 5:00 AM

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in 2018

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 5:00 AM

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eesh, k that's no bueno

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 5:00 AM

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didnt know nothing about pcs

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 5:00 AM

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I mean, I guess it's not a terrible price considering your location, but still

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the prices of pcs are moving very fast nowadays

fleet canopy Feb 4, 2020, 5:01 AM

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Paid about 200-300$ for my 1060 back then, clueless about computers except “graphic card make game fast run!!!”

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 5:01 AM

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AMD is finally competing lol

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I bought a GT 730 low profile card for my acer, it didn't fit in the case

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 5:01 AM

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If you paid 300 for a 1060 3gb you got robbed PirateSimon

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 5:01 AM

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in my country it seems that people use rx 570 for mining bc its at 374 dollars

fleet canopy Feb 4, 2020, 5:01 AM

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Haha

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 5:01 AM

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I cut the steel case with a hacksaw, card still didn't run

fleet canopy Feb 4, 2020, 5:02 AM

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It didn’t rob me for the fun I had playing games at good FPS

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 5:02 AM

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had someone come test it for me and buy it off me alsmot full price since the card was fine, turns out my old power supply was too low lol

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 5:02 AM

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the 1060 did work still

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i have a generic 550w

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 5:03 AM

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I say that cause the Founders edition of the 6gb model was 300, the normal msrp was 279. The 3gb was like 40 less or something?

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 5:03 AM

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I now have a 650 80+ gold rated

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but I soent a fuckton on my pc

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 5:03 AM

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whats your specs now?

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 5:03 AM

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spent*

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one sec, it's easier to pull up pc part picker

fleet canopy Feb 4, 2020, 5:04 AM

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Prices wouldn’t be too accurate

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 5:04 AM

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I actually got one of the best PSUs considering its a 750w 80+ Gold with a quad 12v rail

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That's actually way overbuilt for what I'm using phaWesker

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 5:04 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/b/VfJ8TW

fleet canopy Feb 4, 2020, 5:05 AM

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Damn

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 5:05 AM

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oof

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 5:05 AM

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Oh right the View

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 5:05 AM

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pc master race

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 5:05 AM

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Give me more Glass phaWesker

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 5:05 AM

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not enough glass

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 5:05 AM

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shhh I love tempered glass haha

fleet canopy Feb 4, 2020, 5:06 AM

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That’s a big ass price >.>

median moon Feb 4, 2020, 5:06 AM

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@vapid crypt wut

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 5:06 AM

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I polish this shit every day to keep fingerprints off it lol

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 5:06 AM

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No I mean the Glass on the computer case phaSip

median moon Feb 4, 2020, 5:06 AM

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😦

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 5:06 AM

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that price does include a 4k 50" tv, a 27" 144HZ 1080p monitor, my HTC Vive

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and a few other peripherals, the main bulk of the pc guts cost about $3200

abstract kite Feb 4, 2020, 5:07 AM

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wow

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 5:07 AM

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what do you do for work Spartan?

fleet canopy Feb 4, 2020, 5:07 AM

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Dang

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 5:07 AM

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Canadian, mind you

abstract kite Feb 4, 2020, 5:07 AM

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Ahh that makes more sense

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 5:07 AM

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I currently don't work, actually. Got laid off whern Sear went bankrupt

fleet canopy Feb 4, 2020, 5:07 AM

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Oof

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 5:07 AM

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"Maple Leaf, btw" PirateSimon

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 5:07 AM

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but before getting your pc?

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 5:07 AM

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I just said fuck it and maxxed out my credit card lol

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 5:07 AM

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hahaha

fleet canopy Feb 4, 2020, 5:08 AM

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Kek

median moon Feb 4, 2020, 5:08 AM

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sears is bankrupt?

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F

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 5:08 AM

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before my pc I was with Watch and Jewellry repair

fleet canopy Feb 4, 2020, 5:08 AM

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Sears

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Now what exactly was sears

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 5:08 AM

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and how much did you make

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 5:08 AM

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Shit I wonder if the one near me is gone

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 5:08 AM

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lol yeah, a cpl years ago now actually

fleet canopy Feb 4, 2020, 5:08 AM

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Cloth shop?

median moon Feb 4, 2020, 5:08 AM

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oof

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 5:08 AM

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I guess they owned K-mart that's gone now

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 5:08 AM

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I was over min wage

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yeah Sears sells clothes, furniture, makeup etc

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 5:09 AM

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and it still went bankrupt?

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 5:09 AM

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the only reason I could afford this pc was due to my credit card getting a credit raise

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yeah, they had all their cheap clothes severely overpriced

fleet canopy Feb 4, 2020, 5:09 AM

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Ah

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 5:09 AM

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and they owned the Craftsman toll brand which was doing really terrible against Dewalt

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tool*

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 5:10 AM

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so you´re doing good with streaming?

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 5:10 AM

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Oh the one near me is still open

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 5:10 AM

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not at all lol

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I barely stream currently

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mostly in the middle of teaching myself a bunch about hardware, recording and editing etc

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 5:11 AM

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I stream sometimes, but no one watches PirateSimon

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 5:11 AM

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I'm not in a course, so learning it on my own speed works for me

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I'm more of a mod for some streamers

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though, I think they removed my mod status recently because I'm not on much lol

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 5:11 AM

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you want to do like repair pcs or something like that later?

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 5:11 AM

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I would LOVE to build custom pcs for people

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not very lucrative where I live though

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enthusiast pc stuff is a very small niche here

fleet canopy Feb 4, 2020, 5:12 AM

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Be’d a good job for you if that were possible for you

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 5:12 AM

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it would definitely be something I'd enjoy

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I mean, I have no idea if I'm any good, this pc is my first

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first build, anyways

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all my others have been pre-builds

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 5:13 AM

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you builded it yourself?

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idk if builded is a word

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 5:13 AM

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I had to put together my PC twice phaWesker

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 5:13 AM

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built it

fleet canopy Feb 4, 2020, 5:13 AM

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Yeah built

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 5:13 AM

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yes, bought all parts seperate and put it all together on my own. No help whatsoever except YT vids

fleet canopy Feb 4, 2020, 5:14 AM

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Builded is actually not gonna autocorrect t me

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Hm

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 5:14 AM

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Cause the motherboard and case I got initially I ended up replacing within a month

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 5:14 AM

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not like, manufacturing the boards or anything lol

fleet canopy Feb 4, 2020, 5:14 AM

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The fuck goes with builded

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 5:14 AM

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hahahaha

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 5:14 AM

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lol

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 5:14 AM

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Buildzoid PirateSimon

fleet canopy Feb 4, 2020, 5:14 AM

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GWmythicalThonkCool

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 5:14 AM

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I bought expensive parts just to be sure everything was high quality and compatible

fleet canopy Feb 4, 2020, 5:14 AM

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Some mystery to find out

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 5:14 AM

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ReversedConfusedUlf

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 5:15 AM

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like was a $350 case necessary? no.
Was a $330 mobo necessary? newp

fleet canopy Feb 4, 2020, 5:15 AM

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This guy is ulf confirm

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 5:15 AM

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but they are of excellent quality

abstract kite Feb 4, 2020, 5:15 AM

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Though, the most expensive thing doesnt mean it's the best quality

fleet canopy Feb 4, 2020, 5:15 AM

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It’s just Ulf with actual hair instead of bald

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 5:15 AM

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oh no, for sure

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not what I am trying to say

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 5:15 AM

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yeah probably bc it had rgb on it

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 5:16 AM

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just saying that since my stuff was searched out for good quality, it also happens to have ballooned the price

abstract kite Feb 4, 2020, 5:16 AM

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Understandable.

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I get that

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 5:17 AM

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I just realized that the motherboard and gpu have different colored lights phaWesker

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 5:17 AM

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like I could have gotten a B450 tomahawk board for $150 I think, but I went with a Taichi X470 instead.

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 5:17 AM

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is the x470 better?

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 5:17 AM

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Haha yeah, not anymore though, now everything is purple

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 5:18 AM

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Technically, yes and no

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 5:18 AM

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imo yes x470 is better, at least this ASRock Taichi model is

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 5:18 AM

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I know that's sort of a non answer, but it depends on the use case

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 5:18 AM

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can you even change colors?

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 5:19 AM

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Will a CPU perform better on one or the other, not necessarily. Maybe the VRMS would run cooler on the Taichi if it were running a Ryzen 9, but they're both capable of handling one

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 5:20 AM

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yes all my lights are RGB

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They can be rainbow if I wanted, but I like purp lol

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 5:21 AM

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one question what is the vrm?

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is it for oc?

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 5:21 AM

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I believe an x470 can run a ryzen 9, but a x470 board has no pcie 4.0, only 3.0

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yeah basically vrm is a voltage regulator

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better vrm, means more efficient power usage and temps

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 5:22 AM

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ok

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 5:22 AM

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It'll be able to handle higher end CPUs if they're really good

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Like that Taichi will have no problem with a 3950x

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I'm kinda surprised they overbuilt these boards considering the 2700X was the best thing when it was made

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 5:24 AM

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what was the intel 400w cpu?

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400tdp was it?

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 5:24 AM

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the taichi is designed for future model cpus technically.

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why I got it; futureproofing to a certain degree.

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 5:25 AM

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Oh okay so they overbuilt just going by AMD's support of AM4 for a while

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 5:25 AM

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can handle overclocks of upwards of 5GHz, though I don't think AMD have a cpu that hits that stable yet

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 5:25 AM

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No, not on air. Let alone regular ol' AIO

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 5:26 AM

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Intel does so they might have been going off that

gray lotus Feb 4, 2020, 5:26 AM

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😮

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 5:26 AM

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Actually the best air cooling beats the best water cooling by a small degree

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Noctua dual tower coolers work better than any AIO, can't speak for custom water cooling though

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 5:26 AM

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I think that's true compared to older AIOs

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 5:27 AM

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Linus tested this

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 5:27 AM

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But its not like they're not improving them

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 5:27 AM

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nah, ROG ones too

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new 360mm rads work worse than 240 apparently also

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 5:27 AM

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I'll take Air over any form of liquid cooling

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Just for the reliability alone

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 5:28 AM

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water is for aesthetics imo, if you want efficiency go with a quality air cooler

median moon Feb 4, 2020, 5:28 AM

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yes

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 5:28 AM

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I have my 2700 pinned at 4.1GHz across all cores and it never goes above 62 degrees

median moon Feb 4, 2020, 5:28 AM

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water also saves some space for your RAM but

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not even close to worth

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 5:29 AM

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Is it weird that I like the appearance of an air cooler PirateSimon

median moon Feb 4, 2020, 5:29 AM

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now LN2

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mmm

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that's real cooling

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 5:29 AM

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Rgb air cooler

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Imagine the air that goes through the case also has color

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 5:30 AM

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my noctua sticks out like a sore thumb but I wouldn't trade it for the best aio

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 5:30 AM

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Imagine no more, its called colored vapor phaWesker

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 5:31 AM

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Yee nice

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 5:31 AM

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there are rgb power cables now ffs haha

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 5:31 AM

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Actually that's a bad idea

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It would condensate and kill everything

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 5:31 AM

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Rgb razer backpacks

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 5:31 AM

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lol yeah, water vapor is no bueno

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 5:32 AM

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El demonio where are you from

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 5:32 AM

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I am American

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 5:32 AM

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Whats with your name xd

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 5:33 AM

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I was an edgy 12 year old back then, though I am of Cuban descent

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 5:33 AM

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El demonio is not that edgy

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Mine was better

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 5:33 AM

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Its a little edgy PirateSimon

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 5:33 AM

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I was called axel the human marrionete

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Beat that

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 5:34 AM

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I can't I might cut myself

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 5:34 AM

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Hahahaha

median moon Feb 4, 2020, 5:34 AM

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ahem

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my alias is coldsteel the hedgeheg

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 5:34 AM

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It came from fnaf

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 5:34 AM

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Nothin' personnel kid

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 5:35 AM

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Im scared

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My electricity is turning on and off

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Someone is stealing my cables

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Coldsteel noce

knotty haven Feb 4, 2020, 5:57 AM

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^

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can post uu

regal laurel Feb 4, 2020, 3:38 PM

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Hey, saw you were talking about big air tower vs AIO coolers a bit... does anyone have a chart like this that includes aircoolers properly? I can only find some not too reliable small case tests, nothing proper like these. https://www.gamersnexus.net/images/media/2019/coolers/corsair-h115i-plat/corsair-h115i-platinum_all-thermals.png

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 3:53 PM

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I could post bc i had mobile data xd

median moon Feb 4, 2020, 4:34 PM

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📣

jolly idol Feb 4, 2020, 5:04 PM

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@median moon ur pfp

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I want that in my copy pasta folder

cobalt hound Feb 4, 2020, 5:36 PM

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You like pasta?

median moon Feb 4, 2020, 5:48 PM

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why though

scenic sail Feb 4, 2020, 6:27 PM

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would anyone help me with trying to build a good pc for streaming? I have a build right now but my main problems are should I do a dual PC Set-Up and I dont know whether a ryzen or intel would be better for streaming

eternal cairn Feb 4, 2020, 6:33 PM

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Ryzen for streaming, Intel for gaming.

fading compass Feb 4, 2020, 6:34 PM

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Turing NVENC >

brisk badger Feb 4, 2020, 6:40 PM

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Why become a streamer

eternal cairn Feb 4, 2020, 6:42 PM

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Why does it matter?

brisk badger Feb 4, 2020, 6:44 PM

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I am curious. There seems to be a big demand

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*A big demand to become streamer

median moon Feb 4, 2020, 6:45 PM

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intel for ~~gaming~~ extreme gaming

eternal cairn Feb 4, 2020, 6:45 PM

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*Xtreme

median moon Feb 4, 2020, 6:45 PM

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ryzen is on average 10% worse for gaming but like 80% better at everything else

brisk badger Feb 4, 2020, 6:46 PM

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60% of all statistics are made up

median moon Feb 4, 2020, 6:46 PM

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60% of the time, it works every time

eternal cairn Feb 4, 2020, 6:46 PM

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Ryzen 3900x/3950x is overall better if you know you're going to do other things besides gaming.

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60% is a failing grade.

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I wouldn't invest in that kind of percentage.

median moon Feb 4, 2020, 6:51 PM

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3800x gang

late sorrel Feb 4, 2020, 6:51 PM

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2600 gang

eternal cairn Feb 4, 2020, 6:51 PM

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4000x gang.

median moon Feb 4, 2020, 6:51 PM

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3080Ti gang

eternal cairn Feb 4, 2020, 6:59 PM

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Also, water coolers do work well.

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At least closed loop systems.

granite basin Feb 4, 2020, 7:06 PM

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still cant see why you'd pay a hundred dollars/two hundred dollars more for a tiny performance increase that isnt worth it and buy intel

eternal cairn Feb 4, 2020, 7:07 PM

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You can get some for as cheap as $70.

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 7:07 PM

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water cooling is typically worse than air and also louder

granite basin Feb 4, 2020, 7:07 PM

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im sure u can anythings possible but it doesnt mean you will, its unlikely anybody will sell them that cheap

eternal cairn Feb 4, 2020, 7:07 PM

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Corsair already does. LOL

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 7:08 PM

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Those are typically 120 rads right?

eternal cairn Feb 4, 2020, 7:08 PM

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True.

sick reef Feb 4, 2020, 7:09 PM

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Water cooling worse UltimateKEK

merry bay Feb 4, 2020, 7:09 PM

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And if you're going really toasty, air coolers aren't doing that great anymore.

sick reef Feb 4, 2020, 7:10 PM

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Louder depends, tho.

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 7:22 PM

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aio is never better than noctua air cooling

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even custom loops don't show imprvement

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Linus has a video that tested air cooling vs 120/240/360mm AIO and Air beat them all

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water is for builds that are too small for a large air cooling tower

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then custom loops are for aesthetics

sick reef Feb 4, 2020, 7:52 PM

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Water cooling isn't only AIO.

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Saying custom loops is only for aesthetics is also quite laughable due to scaling.

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Which air has fan.

regal laurel Feb 4, 2020, 7:55 PM

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If you're referring to LTT's "Why you shouldn't water cool your PC" video... personally I can't make much sense of what results they got. That's why I'm searching for other, very scientifically done tests

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As in that video the 120 rad is only 5 degrees warmer than a 360, and the 240 outperforms the 360. Idk what you think of that but it doesnt make sense to me, so I'd like to have those numbers confirmed

sick reef Feb 4, 2020, 7:56 PM

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Maybe should look into the LTT video.

brisk badger Feb 4, 2020, 7:56 PM

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I can only tell from experience and throwing a lot of money into custom loops back in the day; it's not worth

sick reef Feb 4, 2020, 7:56 PM

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Or someone else doing the same thing, obviously.

brisk badger Feb 4, 2020, 7:56 PM

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get a noctua air cooler

sick reef Feb 4, 2020, 7:57 PM

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That might be true! But that wasn't the statement.

brisk badger Feb 4, 2020, 7:57 PM

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it also cools better

sick reef Feb 4, 2020, 7:57 PM

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I doubt that. By quite the margin.

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If that was against custom loop, obviously.

brisk badger Feb 4, 2020, 7:58 PM

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i had once a 400euro 360 external tower, quite the highend back in the days and then had the same time noctua nh-d14 i think was it called back then. The air cooler does cool better

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i also had to build for some clients water coolers. the stats are not impressive

sick reef Feb 4, 2020, 7:59 PM

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So you did proper testing methodology, then.

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Or just switched, and one was better than the other, in your opinion.

brisk badger Feb 4, 2020, 8:00 PM

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i did not do a blog and extensive research, but I have identical setups back in the day (i used to work for a repair center and building pc's) and the benefit of maybe like saving 3-4° is IMO not worth saying watercooling is better

sick reef Feb 4, 2020, 8:01 PM

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That is better. Not by a lot, of course, and maybe not worth it.

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But it is better.

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I am not trying to say that it is worth it.

brisk badger Feb 4, 2020, 8:01 PM

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cpu block contact made of silver

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that shit wasn't worth it

sick reef Feb 4, 2020, 8:02 PM

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I am saying that it is better.

merry bay Feb 4, 2020, 8:02 PM

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saying it's better is like an overall statement. Saying you get better temps narrows it down without getting into all the downsides/upsides.

sick reef Feb 4, 2020, 8:02 PM

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As in lower temperatures, running the same process.

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I don't know. Value, and performance.

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I divide those, personally.

brisk badger Feb 4, 2020, 8:03 PM

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watercooling is nice for the looks. it's bad for actual overclocking IMO as well

sick reef Feb 4, 2020, 8:03 PM

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Would that not depend on the size of the CPU.

brisk badger Feb 4, 2020, 8:03 PM

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aircoolers do help cooling vrm's and even ram.
with watercooling, you can pay extra xD

sick reef Feb 4, 2020, 8:05 PM

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How would an aircooler help cool VRMs and RAM, if you so already have good airflow, or even fans on the MB?

brisk badger Feb 4, 2020, 8:06 PM

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the fans attached to the heatsink is making an airflow around, so heat that leaves the vrm is sucked or blown by the fan

sick reef Feb 4, 2020, 8:07 PM

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So, if you already have good airflow it won't matter? Or just simply a fan in the vicinity of the VRM.

brisk badger Feb 4, 2020, 8:07 PM

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probably not so much but that requires more noisy fans

sick reef Feb 4, 2020, 8:08 PM

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Would not an aircooler have similarly noisy fans

brisk badger Feb 4, 2020, 8:08 PM

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my noctua fans blow with silent 800 rpm and power a 7700k at 5200mhz :p

sick reef Feb 4, 2020, 8:08 PM

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A closed case or open bench.

regal laurel Feb 4, 2020, 8:08 PM

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clearly delidded 7700k then

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anyways

#

what I wanted to mention regarding the LTT video

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they get 86c for 120

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81c for 360

sick reef Feb 4, 2020, 8:09 PM

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Well, it's LTT.

regal laurel Feb 4, 2020, 8:09 PM

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and 79c for 240

brisk badger Feb 4, 2020, 8:09 PM

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open bench, but it's no different in closed space

regal laurel Feb 4, 2020, 8:09 PM

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while in the Gamer's Nexus chart I linked

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the EVGA CLC 120 at 1500rpm gets 50.9c delta

sick reef Feb 4, 2020, 8:09 PM

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Well, in the case of open bench, the entire room is the closed space.

regal laurel Feb 4, 2020, 8:09 PM

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h100iv2 1500rpm gets 41.0c

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and the h150i at 1500rpm gets around 36.5c (averaged from 1450 and 1600rpm)

brisk badger Feb 4, 2020, 8:10 PM

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sry i meant closed case

regal laurel Feb 4, 2020, 8:10 PM

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this indicates quite logical scaling

sick reef Feb 4, 2020, 8:11 PM

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It doesn't have to be logical scaling, but it's more sensible.

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It's impressive that you're running 7-series with 800 RPM on load.

brisk badger Feb 4, 2020, 8:12 PM

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https://performance.playground.apheriox.com
live stats here, allthough it's not 100% load

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yea it's delidded

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that alone drops temp by like 15°

sick reef Feb 4, 2020, 8:12 PM

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Yeah

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I have the same

regal laurel Feb 4, 2020, 8:13 PM

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what's the load voltage

brisk badger Feb 4, 2020, 8:13 PM

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i do use offset voltages since that machine needs to run as server

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the max was 1.456v but I worry it may be more now

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havn't touched the settings for years and saw that it can spike to 1.5v with 100% usage

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having all C-States disabled and EIST, and manual voltage, it's 1.376v

regal laurel Feb 4, 2020, 8:15 PM

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could be quite interesting for testing high voltage life expectancy

sick reef Feb 4, 2020, 8:15 PM

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This is how my rig runs

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📎 unknown.png

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Percentages are fan speeds, but it's not completely accurate

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peepoWhy

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3 pin fans

fleet canopy Feb 4, 2020, 8:16 PM

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Looks like RuneScape font to me on right

regal laurel Feb 4, 2020, 8:16 PM

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well 70% of 1200rpm fans is not much still

sick reef Feb 4, 2020, 8:16 PM

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Oh wait it says nothing of clock

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It's not 1200 RPM.

regal laurel Feb 4, 2020, 8:17 PM

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right, I meant the RPM you stated

sick reef Feb 4, 2020, 8:17 PM

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And 70% just means that it's 70% of 12V.

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And it has a bit of scaling to it.

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It's max rpm 2600.

brisk badger Feb 4, 2020, 8:18 PM

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that cpu is now watercooled?

sick reef Feb 4, 2020, 8:18 PM

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Yeah

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Forgot clocks

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📎 unknown.png

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There we go

regal laurel Feb 4, 2020, 8:18 PM

#

why is it at ~1800rpm at 37c then

brisk badger Feb 4, 2020, 8:18 PM

#

that's good results. I become worried but I stand to my decision :p

sick reef Feb 4, 2020, 8:18 PM

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Yeah, that's fine.

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Not saying this is at all worth it.

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It's not 1800 RPM

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I'll have to look up the chart

regal laurel Feb 4, 2020, 8:19 PM

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or 58c is underload i guess

sick reef Feb 4, 2020, 8:19 PM

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It's when I play vidya haha

regal laurel Feb 4, 2020, 8:19 PM

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should get some adapter

sick reef Feb 4, 2020, 8:20 PM

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I managed to get it to 67C ish when I ran dosbox

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and had boosting activated

regal laurel Feb 4, 2020, 8:21 PM

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this is a 7940X or so?

sick reef Feb 4, 2020, 8:21 PM

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Yeah

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I found the chart but it doesn't have speed at voltage charted

regal laurel Feb 4, 2020, 8:23 PM

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Wooza, according to siliconlottery only top 12% of 7700k can run 5.2ghz at 1.450v, assuming theirs were delidded too

sick reef Feb 4, 2020, 8:23 PM

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But it kind of starts spinning around 40%, goes quiet until around 70~ish, then increases in volume and power greatly above that.

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max Db of the fans individually are 41 Db.

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But I could clearly run the fans slower.

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But it hasn't started bothering me yet.

regal laurel Feb 4, 2020, 8:24 PM

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and top 4% of 7940Xs can run 4.70ghz at 1.200v, what's yours at?

sick reef Feb 4, 2020, 8:24 PM

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Average 1.3v

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I used the software to overclock

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So I dunno if it can be pushed

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Most likely it can be pushed at least somewhat

regal laurel Feb 4, 2020, 8:25 PM

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I wonder why they stopped at 1.20v

sick reef Feb 4, 2020, 8:25 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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As said, average 1.3V ish

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Maybe a slight above.

regal laurel Feb 4, 2020, 8:27 PM

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yeah I'd say 4.8 at 1.3v for kaby lake is not unexpected

sick reef Feb 4, 2020, 8:27 PM

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I've never tried pushing it.

regal laurel Feb 4, 2020, 8:27 PM

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or those are skylake X actually, not sure if they got anything of "kaby lake upgrades"

sick reef Feb 4, 2020, 8:27 PM

#

I'm unsure how to do it, and thus how I'd achieve stability

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Yeah, I know.

#

As are 9X

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and 10X

#

PepeLa

regal laurel Feb 4, 2020, 8:28 PM

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well yours is only at 67c max you say, so you could probably try to go for 1.35v easily

sick reef Feb 4, 2020, 8:28 PM

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I'm pretty sure dosbox was trying to max all cores.

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with boosting.

regal laurel Feb 4, 2020, 8:29 PM

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as it is unclear whether siliconlottery's chips just didn't want to go higher no matter what, or whether they just didnt have the cooling... or they didnt want to blow up 1000$+ chips

sick reef Feb 4, 2020, 8:29 PM

#

If I have stability, why would I want a higher Voltage.

regal laurel Feb 4, 2020, 8:29 PM

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for higher clocks?

sick reef Feb 4, 2020, 8:29 PM

#

forsenThink

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Or try the lower-voltage challenge

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Where I lower the voltage

regal laurel Feb 4, 2020, 8:30 PM

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interesting challenge

sick reef Feb 4, 2020, 8:30 PM

#

I think it'd be pretty diminishing returns if I try to go higher core clock.

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Than this.

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I'll have to do stuff

#

I'll have to check how to do stuff*

#

I'll try to hit that 4% or die

#

I also have a fan I can't control properly.

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Mainly because it's 1.3A, and I couldn't get the better microcontroller.

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 8:44 PM

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when speaking on water cooling, heat transfer is the key component. with air, you have direct cooling air applied directly to the heat sinks which draw heat away from the cpu. 2-stage heat dissapation.
Water requires the water to transfer the heat which is better transfer than air, but then still requires it's own air fan to attribute the cooling against the radiator which then transfers evenly across the entire loop (as water cooling doesn't just make it cold around the cpu, it makes the entire loop the same temp). It's more time for heat transfer and dissapation, and when your loop heats up fully, your entire case remains that ambient temp, unlike air cooling which is more localised typically.
It's closer to 3 or 4-stage heat dissapation. Not as effecient as direct air cooling with large heat sink towers.

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at least, this has become my understanding over the past year

median moon Feb 4, 2020, 8:47 PM

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just get LN2

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28° under load

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 8:47 PM

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lol

median moon Feb 4, 2020, 8:47 PM

#

ez solution

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 8:47 PM

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all custom though 😛

median moon Feb 4, 2020, 8:48 PM

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just get money

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FaceThing

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 8:48 PM

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gets money

median moon Feb 4, 2020, 8:48 PM

#

bam

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 8:48 PM

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k now wut?

median moon Feb 4, 2020, 8:48 PM

#

ez ln2

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 8:48 PM

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lel

median moon Feb 4, 2020, 8:48 PM

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use your obtained Vbucks to will the ln2 into existence

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 8:48 PM

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oh damn, that's where I went wrong. I spent all my v-bucks on doritos and mountain dew

#

shit

median moon Feb 4, 2020, 8:49 PM

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rookie mistake

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 8:49 PM

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I'm such a scrub

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 8:49 PM

#

At least you can now make an unlimited amount of Mountain Dew and Doritos Smoothies PirateSimon

median moon Feb 4, 2020, 8:50 PM

#

mountain dew cooling

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 8:50 PM

#

hurk

median moon Feb 4, 2020, 8:50 PM

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FaceThing

sick reef Feb 4, 2020, 8:50 PM

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I wasted all my reddit gold on kind strangers instead of v-bucks

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peepoWhy

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 8:50 PM

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the thought of an actual mountain dew/dorito smoothie made me throw up in my mouth a little

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 8:50 PM

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If I reminded you of Boogie2988 I apologize phaWesker

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 8:51 PM

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I haven't watched his vids in a long time, did he do that or something 0.o

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 8:51 PM

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Yeah a long time ago as his Francis character

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He would do stuff like that

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 8:51 PM

#

hurk

mortal garnet Feb 4, 2020, 9:19 PM

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would a windows surface be a good enough computer for this game, and if so should I get 8 or 16 gigs ram? Im trying to buy a laptop for college and need something hopefully under 1.5k

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 9:31 PM

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Surface has no dedicated GPU, so you'll get maybe 30fps @ 1080p with the integrated intel 650 graphics

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at lowest settings

#

and at this stage in pc hardware I'd def look at 16GB

#

especially if there is no dedicated GPU since integrated graphics can allocate 2GB of your RAM as video memory, so with 8GB you'd actually only have 6 available

mortal garnet Feb 4, 2020, 9:36 PM

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is there a better laptop I can get for somewhere under $2000 US

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 9:36 PM

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typically, yes

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the surface is a tablet, not a laptop. SMaller processor

mortal garnet Feb 4, 2020, 9:37 PM

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ah

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 9:37 PM

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I heard Asus's upcoming Zephyrus G14 will start at $1400, it isn't out yet of course so, but it comes with the new Ryzen 8 core 16 thread, and something like a 1660ti or 2060

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 9:37 PM

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I think the best cpu the surface pro has is an i7-1065G7, like a 4 core 1.3GHz base clock apu

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no good

#

ASUS and MSI laptops are great generally

#

also Dell has been making some decent gaming laptops

mortal garnet Feb 4, 2020, 9:38 PM

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i asume a razer would be just paying for a name?

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 9:38 PM

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New laptops are coming out in the coming months, so unless its urgent I'd say wait for that stuff to roll out

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 9:39 PM

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yeah Razer is overpriced

mortal garnet Feb 4, 2020, 9:39 PM

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yeah im buying one this summer, so thats perfect

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 9:39 PM

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just do not get any laptop with a 4k screen

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 9:40 PM

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Oh alright, the Zephyrus G14 looks promising, its relatively compact. Let's you have light art with LEDs on the lid too phaWesker

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 9:40 PM

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try to make sure it's either 1080p or 1440p, and that it cna handle 144Hz refresh rate

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 9:41 PM

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I remember reading a comment that when they get that, they'll write "Not an Apple" using those LEDs PirateSimon

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 9:41 PM

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kek

mortal garnet Feb 4, 2020, 9:42 PM

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lol

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 9:43 PM

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I recently saw a vid that showed off a case that the side panel was a see-through monitor

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was fairly nifty :p

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ibuypower snowblind case

vapid crypt Feb 4, 2020, 9:44 PM

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Next level case bling

pallid cedar Feb 4, 2020, 9:48 PM

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dude played Rocket League on it haha

abstract kite Feb 4, 2020, 9:50 PM

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Rocket League is fun ngl

median moon Feb 4, 2020, 10:40 PM

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my case is a Samsung smart fridge Ludvig

abstract kite Feb 5, 2020, 3:10 AM

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@median moon got run it with cool temps

eternal cairn Feb 5, 2020, 5:31 AM

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So, I may be overkilling my PC with 5 fans, but what do you all think?

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One of them is the fan that came with my 3900x.

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But for the other 4, I’m thinking 2 in front, 1 on the back, and 1 on top closer to the motherboard.

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Or should I do 2 on top and just 1 in front?

abstract kite Feb 5, 2020, 5:35 AM

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There's no such thing as overkill airflow

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Right now you have neutral case pressure

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that's perfectly fine

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I have the same setup and it's great

eternal cairn Feb 5, 2020, 5:36 AM

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How about setup though?

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2 on top or 2 in front?

abstract kite Feb 5, 2020, 5:36 AM

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I have one exhaust in the rear, one exhaust at the top, and two intakes

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it's a neutral case pressure

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120mm exhaust fans

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140mm intakes

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so barely positive case pressure

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Do one in rear, one on top, and two as intakes

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that's what I would suggest

eternal cairn Feb 5, 2020, 5:38 AM

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Alright, that sounds good. Thanks!

abstract kite Feb 5, 2020, 5:39 AM

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👍

eternal cairn Feb 5, 2020, 5:43 AM

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Also, 3900x hype!

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Oh, wait, shouldn’t I have a fan in front of my drives?

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Or does that not matter?

fleet canopy Feb 5, 2020, 5:47 AM

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Nah

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Just try to have a good airflow

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And make sure the drives aren’t cramped as hell

median moon Feb 5, 2020, 6:24 AM

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📣

onyx ember Feb 5, 2020, 6:53 AM

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You don’t really worry about fans in front of your hard drives unless you’re making a server rack or something.

abstract kite Feb 5, 2020, 7:20 AM

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<@&408548765599793173>

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This looks sus

modern yew Feb 5, 2020, 7:21 AM

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Thanks

red sinew Feb 5, 2020, 7:21 AM

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zoomEyes

abstract kite Feb 5, 2020, 7:21 AM

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ddos exes wot

pallid cedar Feb 5, 2020, 9:31 AM

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I mean, if 5 fans are overkill, my 9 fans must be insanity o.0

sick reef Feb 5, 2020, 9:41 AM

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Its not about the number of fans, it's how efficient they are lulWut

eternal cairn Feb 5, 2020, 10:06 AM

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The operation was a success!

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I can now encode videos and play video games at maximum power.

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Going from 4 cores to 12 cores feels great!

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And actually having working fans after possibly several months.

urban gulch Feb 5, 2020, 10:25 AM

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Or years? Who knows.

jade ermine Feb 5, 2020, 10:37 AM

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@eternal cairn gang gang!

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mine is made in china, yours in malaysia

eternal cairn Feb 5, 2020, 10:38 AM

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Ooh.

jade ermine Feb 5, 2020, 10:39 AM

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maybe i can blame china for my bad IF speeds LOL

eternal cairn Feb 5, 2020, 10:39 AM

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LOL

abstract kite Feb 5, 2020, 11:15 AM

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@jade ermine WACTCH OUT FOR CORONA VIRUS

jade ermine Feb 5, 2020, 11:20 AM

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Its older than the outbreak ReversedConfusedUlf

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@abstract kite

granite basin Feb 5, 2020, 12:44 PM

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the outbreak started on 2019 @jade ermine

distant dawn Feb 5, 2020, 1:34 PM

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As soon as it heats up the virus will be killed you'll be okay

fading compass Feb 5, 2020, 1:37 PM

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thinkyJuice

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No treatment yet

urban gulch Feb 5, 2020, 1:41 PM

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shy

median moon Feb 5, 2020, 3:58 PM

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📣

abstract kite Feb 5, 2020, 4:37 PM

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There's been a few recoveries.

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I'm safe as hell from the virus. It's cold, and isolated from the rest of the world.

jade ermine Feb 5, 2020, 4:52 PM

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void perch Feb 5, 2020, 5:29 PM

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Let's get this back to pc tech talk please

cloud ferry Feb 5, 2020, 5:31 PM

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Anyone got recommendations for a laptop that's fairly cheap, about 1200? It's for a friend, his is old and cant even run YouTube well

void perch Feb 5, 2020, 5:33 PM

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What does the laptop need to do? Word, excel, basic internet use? Does it need to do any gaming?

late sorrel Feb 5, 2020, 5:33 PM

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honestly you can get a laptop for like 500 bucks that can do basic internet stuff

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gaming, however

distant dawn Feb 5, 2020, 5:34 PM

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Hp omen are pretty solid and they range from 800 - 3500

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https://www.google.com/shopping/product/12733491850500048365?q=hp+omen+15&safe=strict&client=ms-android-samsung-ss&biw=412&bih=771&tbs=cat:328,pdtr0:703960|703961,pdtr1:741969|987163,vw:l,init_ar:SgVKAwjIAkoKUggI2PsqINn7KkoKUggI0aQtIJugPEoHsgQECIuqIA%3D%3D,ss:44&prmd=sinv&sxsrf=ACYBGNSXAA-HVFBpXJYEfcTTup_313xLig:1580924082744&prds=epd:7643173419058422742,paur:ClkAsKraX75VENCCz2zCChYSEBvruS_1k53epf1Xjlw-GPIWOEHozuUi6jzycS1vdqTWCsRSZvo-YeB56NRKbzoVcMNPk3BaOvqcuv3ddZ2EmBEwNU6uaNqRORIZAFPVH70nyWe0k9U5bJLY1dPyNOAYMwqaJA,cdl:1,prmr:1,cs:1

median moon Feb 5, 2020, 5:36 PM

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Wew

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that link

vapid crypt Feb 5, 2020, 5:36 PM

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It leads to nothing phaSip

molten thorn Feb 5, 2020, 10:04 PM

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Upgrading mother board to 570x, what's a decent CPU my budget for the CPU itself is 300, did some research but just ended up not knowing which to pick

north bronze Feb 5, 2020, 10:04 PM

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ryzen 3700x

eternal cairn Feb 5, 2020, 10:04 PM

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You're probably better off with an Intel chipset and processor if that's your budget.

north bronze Feb 5, 2020, 10:05 PM

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The 3700X is at about 329$, and it's a beast 👀

molten thorn Feb 5, 2020, 10:06 PM

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I'll give it a look

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Let's hope the store selling them isn't 50 miles away like the motherboard kanchoucanteven

eternal cairn Feb 5, 2020, 10:09 PM

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I just use Amazon.

molten thorn Feb 5, 2020, 10:11 PM

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Last time I ordered a gpu from them it didn't work. Thought my power supply was the issue turns out it got busted during shipping. Got my money back but left a bad impression

eternal cairn Feb 5, 2020, 10:11 PM

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Amazon has great customer service, at least in my experience.

vapid crypt Feb 5, 2020, 10:13 PM

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I've never received anything broken really, worst experience I had with Amazon is for whatever reason their carrier failing to get a Computer Case to me by losing it once, and then mysteriously unable to deliver the replacement. So I had to get one from Newegg instead phaWesker

molten thorn Feb 5, 2020, 10:13 PM

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U rite, they're very easy to work with but that 1 experience left me brutally scarred. If push comes to shove I usually will just suck it up and place the order but I always try and go in store first

vapid crypt Feb 5, 2020, 10:14 PM

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Places like Best Buy will price match as long as the item is sold directly from Amazon/Newegg

molten thorn Feb 5, 2020, 10:15 PM

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There's a small PC parts store like a block from the best buy near me, I can usually get good deals from them if the best but doesn't have what I need.

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I say near me very loosely

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It's far af

vapid crypt Feb 5, 2020, 10:16 PM

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"I gotta drive like an hour and half, but yeah its pretty close." phaLeon

molten thorn Feb 5, 2020, 10:17 PM

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emoji_16

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It's the nearest one to me

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Actually I'll just go buy one of those Walmart gaming PC's

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Heard those are amazing PirateSimon

eternal cairn Feb 5, 2020, 10:18 PM

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LUL

molten thorn Feb 5, 2020, 10:20 PM

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Big question tho

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So I've been using a wired mouse for a long time

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Hate it

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Is wireless better or just as bad

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By bad I mean it feels like I'm being restricted and I'm constantly picking my mouse up to adjust it

eternal cairn Feb 5, 2020, 10:22 PM

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I just use a wired mouse, so I wouldn't know.

vapid crypt Feb 5, 2020, 10:23 PM

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I don't have an experience with a decent wireless mouse, I have a bias for wired in general. Just cause there's no worry of having to charge a battery or even replace batteries. Not that its a big deal since you might have to do so pretty rarely phaSheva

molten thorn Feb 5, 2020, 10:23 PM

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Perhaps

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Hmm I see

vapid crypt Feb 5, 2020, 10:24 PM

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As for wired, I've never really had a problem with having to adjust. Have you tried maybe routing the wire differently or change DPI?

molten thorn Feb 5, 2020, 10:25 PM

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🤡 <~~~me

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I have not tried that

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Omega bruh moment

brisk badger Feb 5, 2020, 10:34 PM

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just a random but did you know that today some wireless mice and keyboards use AES to encrypt traffic. Pretty interesting.
performance-wise I think todays wireless mice are good and there is almost no delay anymore. not sure if that's the case with AES enabled 🙂

merry bay Feb 5, 2020, 10:39 PM

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@molten thorn Ever looked into ultralight mice? The mouse barely weighs anything as well as the cable is really light. Closest thing to wireless without the downsides of charging or rare signal troubles.

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Point is I don't feel any cable drag or weight with it. That's almost all the upsides of wireless. Unless you like moving your mouse away from your mousepad

serene folio Feb 5, 2020, 11:09 PM

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I keep getting directX crashes

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On CoD and CoD alone

merry bay Feb 5, 2020, 11:13 PM

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Sounds like an evening of googling

serene folio Feb 5, 2020, 11:15 PM

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I've done everything that's come up

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Nothing's helped so far

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Two things left

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Reinstall the game

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Or reinstall windows to get directX reinstalled

fleet canopy Feb 5, 2020, 11:16 PM

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Or

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Just download Direct X from search

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Look for the version needed

serene folio Feb 5, 2020, 11:17 PM

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That is the only way to reinstall it

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Windows update

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It does not appear as a seperate download anywhere

pallid cedar Feb 5, 2020, 11:19 PM

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https://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/download/details.aspx?id=35

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it sure does

serene folio Feb 5, 2020, 11:20 PM

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Sure didn't when I looked for it

molten thorn Feb 5, 2020, 11:51 PM

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I'll check that mouse out thanks

merry bay Feb 5, 2020, 11:52 PM

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it's more than one, it's like it's own type. Not many will have ultralight in their names. One of the cheaper but high quality variants is from Glorious "Model O" or "Model D"

stark plover Feb 6, 2020, 12:17 AM

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Why does my PC sometimes black screen completely and restarts by itself when playing games 😭

fading compass Feb 6, 2020, 12:23 AM

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Maybe thermal throttling

stark plover Feb 6, 2020, 12:28 AM

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i checked and my temps are good

fading compass Feb 6, 2020, 12:31 AM

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Below 90 for gpu and Cpu right?

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What’s the gpu too.

stark plover Feb 6, 2020, 12:32 AM

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ye and radeon vii

fading compass Feb 6, 2020, 12:34 AM

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Maybe update the drivers? Other than that Idrk any other solutions

stark plover Feb 6, 2020, 12:35 AM

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all up to date

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

fading compass Feb 6, 2020, 12:42 AM

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Oof thinkicide2

strong whale Feb 6, 2020, 1:31 AM

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That sounds like the same issues the VII had at launch, there's a reason they discontinued it like 6 months after launch :/

stark plover Feb 6, 2020, 1:31 AM

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Its not because of my VII

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I had the same issues with my V56 before i got the VII

strong whale Feb 6, 2020, 1:32 AM

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psu or mobo maybe

stark plover Feb 6, 2020, 1:32 AM

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I got a new psu and the same thing happened with both xd

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mobo its the same so maybe

pallid cedar Feb 6, 2020, 2:31 AM

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are you overclocking your RAM with XMP?

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I ran into a similar issue on my roommate's pc I built for him due to incompatibility between the mobo and the RAM clock speeds I was attempting to use with XMP

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had to reduce the clocks from 3000 to 2666

stark plover Feb 6, 2020, 2:41 AM

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@pallid cedar heck idk what xmp is, anyway to check that?

pallid cedar Feb 6, 2020, 2:41 AM

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in the BIOS under the RAM settings

stark plover Feb 6, 2020, 2:42 AM

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thanks

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ill check that after my game kek

pallid cedar Feb 6, 2020, 2:42 AM

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your ram will have a default speed setting, turning on XMP typically allows you to utilize the upper limits of the RAM, like my RAM is 3200 speed but was default at I think 2800 but putting it into XMP brought it up to 3200

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you may not have XMP depending on your mobo, but the RAM speeds should be able to be adjusted. Try going down a level at a time and see if it stops it

stark plover Feb 6, 2020, 2:43 AM

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I got the asus crosshair vi hero (wifi)

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And the speeds for my ram on the box says 3200

pallid cedar Feb 6, 2020, 2:44 AM

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that should have XMP, or if it's an Intel board they have their own name for it I believe, XMP is AMD as far as I remember

stark plover Feb 6, 2020, 2:44 AM

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Task manager says my speed for ram is set at 3000

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Ill check next time I restart pc

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If its on try turning it off?

pallid cedar Feb 6, 2020, 2:44 AM

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kk, it might not be a RAM issue, just sounds similar to what I went through with my roommate's build

stark plover Feb 6, 2020, 2:44 AM

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Alright

pallid cedar Feb 6, 2020, 2:44 AM

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yeah try turning it off

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see what happens

stark plover Feb 6, 2020, 2:44 AM

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Ive had this issue before I upgraded gpu and psu so i know its not an issue with those

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Thanks B)

pallid cedar Feb 6, 2020, 2:45 AM

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no worries

fleet canopy Feb 6, 2020, 2:45 AM

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XMP is also intel

pallid cedar Feb 6, 2020, 2:45 AM

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ok, I wasn't positive

fleet canopy Feb 6, 2020, 2:45 AM

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Called nothing else, XMP is official name for RAM stuff ig, across all boards

pallid cedar Feb 6, 2020, 2:46 AM

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fair enough

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hmm, the Crosshair VI should be able to handle 3200 MHz on Ram.
Might not be that, but if you're pc said you're running your ram at 3000 instead of the rated 3200, XMP probably isn't on.

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either way, if it's off, turn it on, if it's on turn it off. See if any improvement is made

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if it doesn't fix it, I would say the most likely cause is hardware failure of the capacitors on your motherboard :/

hazy swift Feb 6, 2020, 4:34 AM

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is this a pc?

dense canopy Feb 6, 2020, 4:34 AM

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And he’s getting banned lol

hazy swift Feb 6, 2020, 4:34 AM

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woah no way

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also shes got a dick

dense canopy Feb 6, 2020, 4:35 AM

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@junior musk

hazy swift Feb 6, 2020, 4:35 AM

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oh hi mod

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I wanted to be banned like immediatly

dense canopy Feb 6, 2020, 4:35 AM

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I’m sorry bro

hazy swift Feb 6, 2020, 4:35 AM

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this isnt' a very fast speed run

dense canopy Feb 6, 2020, 4:35 AM

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I had too

hazy swift Feb 6, 2020, 4:35 AM

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does this work

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just sending it again

dense canopy Feb 6, 2020, 4:35 AM

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I’m sorry bro usually I ain’t snitching

hazy swift Feb 6, 2020, 4:36 AM

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<@&408548765599793173> can you ban me already god damn

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you've ruined my speed run

red sinew Feb 6, 2020, 4:36 AM

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why is it always this channel

dense canopy Feb 6, 2020, 4:36 AM

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I don’t know

hazy swift Feb 6, 2020, 4:36 AM

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you're adding time to the run

dense canopy Feb 6, 2020, 4:36 AM

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BAN HIM WUICK

hazy swift Feb 6, 2020, 4:36 AM

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please

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please

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thank yuou

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now ban

red sinew Feb 6, 2020, 4:36 AM

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nah man ur pb is trash

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Dallas, shut.

dense canopy Feb 6, 2020, 4:37 AM

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I’m sorry

strong patio Feb 6, 2020, 4:37 AM

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Dallas, lets not.

hazy swift Feb 6, 2020, 4:37 AM

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no racism is for baddys

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oh now the mods respond

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how do I get banned

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@abstract kite shut the fuck up

abstract kite Feb 6, 2020, 4:37 AM

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atleast im not fat

hazy swift Feb 6, 2020, 4:38 AM

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you're trying to @ everyone to advertise a private video

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fatas

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f

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fatass

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god

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wee

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wee

fleet canopy Feb 6, 2020, 4:38 AM

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Ok

hazy swift Feb 6, 2020, 4:38 AM

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22 inches

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yes

fleet canopy Feb 6, 2020, 4:38 AM

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Commit shut

dense canopy Feb 6, 2020, 4:38 AM

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Hey dude advertise something

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That’ll get you banned

fleet canopy Feb 6, 2020, 4:38 AM

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No talk without relate computer

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GPU

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Cpu

hazy swift Feb 6, 2020, 4:38 AM

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I think my run is already gone

fleet canopy Feb 6, 2020, 4:38 AM

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Ok general

dense canopy Feb 6, 2020, 4:38 AM

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HES DOING IT

hazy swift Feb 6, 2020, 4:38 AM

#

📎 unknown.png

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is dis pc?

strong patio Feb 6, 2020, 4:39 AM

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Enough.

hazy swift Feb 6, 2020, 4:39 AM

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what

fleet canopy Feb 6, 2020, 4:39 AM

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No funni

median moon Feb 6, 2020, 6:04 AM

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i swear man

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this channel is gonna be become the next media and memes

wraith bolt Feb 6, 2020, 6:17 AM

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median moon Feb 6, 2020, 6:18 AM

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sIGGGHHH

sick reef Feb 6, 2020, 8:14 AM

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No fucking way that is a cat5

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PepeLaff

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If you did this to mess around with friends then sure, but if you use it for online play, then you deserve every bad thing that comes to you.

brisk badger Feb 6, 2020, 12:43 PM

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Poor mans lag switch lol

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At least he used a unshielded twisted pair😂

desert oxide Feb 6, 2020, 3:59 PM

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As an electrician this hurts me lol

shrewd scarab Feb 6, 2020, 6:07 PM

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lag switches are for cunts

abstract kite Feb 6, 2020, 7:00 PM

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So i recently installed the 20.2.1 Drivers for My Radeon 5700xt and I realized something while I was playing Frost Punk. I loaded Frost Punk and paused the game looking for a video to watch while I played, but when I clicked on a Video My Chrome Black Screened while still being able to play the video. I restarted Chrome and it did it again (This time trying to watch Disney+). I exit Frost Punk and now load Videos first and than load back into Frost Punk and it is working now.

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Are you fucking serious AMD?

brisk badger Feb 6, 2020, 7:06 PM

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the drivers have issues with hardware acceleration :(
Only fix would be to temporary disable this for any app that is using this

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i restart my monitors that usually fixes the black screen issue

abstract kite Feb 6, 2020, 7:07 PM

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I think Nvidia and AMD swaps turns with bad drivers, AMD is bad for a bit then Nvidia sucks. Right now its AMDs turn.

shy herald Feb 6, 2020, 7:08 PM

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^ can confirm as a nvidia user :L

vapid crypt Feb 6, 2020, 7:28 PM

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The drivers just tend to be buggy, all you can do is power through it. Didn't know there was an update though, might stick with the ones I'm using until I have a reason to do so

sick reef Feb 6, 2020, 7:58 PM

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I remember when "last stable driver" at least somewhat stable.

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Reminds me of something awfully specific.

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Was it the 318 something update for Nvidia cards that was released with BF3 beta?

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That or 338.38 rings such a bell. I could be completely wrong as well.

eternal cairn Feb 6, 2020, 8:20 PM

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I'm using OBS to record, but which do you think would be a better encoder to use? NVENC or Software (CPU)? I have a Ryzen 3900x and a GTX 1070, but I noticed the recordings were a bit choppy with NVENC.

fading compass Feb 6, 2020, 8:33 PM

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You’ll want to use x264 here.

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Older NVENC is pretty bad.

median moon Feb 6, 2020, 8:46 PM

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3990X released tomorrow

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for $3,990

fading compass Feb 6, 2020, 8:47 PM

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6990X when

regal laurel Feb 6, 2020, 9:00 PM

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baller math:

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32x3.7ghz = 118.4

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64x2.9ghz = 185.6

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= 156.75% of 3970X

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and if 2.9ghz = 280w, 3.7 = 357w? not how it works afaik :p

pallid cedar Feb 6, 2020, 10:50 PM

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the 3970x uses between 6 and 13W per core.
286W is the general average at stock speeds (3.7GHz with 4.5GHz boost)

median moon Feb 6, 2020, 11:20 PM

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📎 IMG_6841.jpg

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everyone is here

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PC built by sunday

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FaceThing

pallid cedar Feb 6, 2020, 11:27 PM

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nice

abstract kite Feb 6, 2020, 11:53 PM

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@median moon Ah I see you are a person of culture.

timid imp Feb 7, 2020, 1:11 AM

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Nice!

fleet canopy Feb 7, 2020, 3:30 AM

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Hot

abstract kite Feb 7, 2020, 5:09 AM

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@median moon If you run into any issue or have any questions you know where to go 👍

vapid crypt Feb 7, 2020, 5:10 AM

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Just don't drop anything PirateSimon

sick reef Feb 7, 2020, 5:24 AM

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If your CPU isn't pulling 300W+ then what are you doing with your build

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PepeNote

vapid crypt Feb 7, 2020, 5:27 AM

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A CPU pulling that much wattage better have over 30 cores phaWesker

strong whale Feb 7, 2020, 5:43 AM

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10900k be like

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median moon Feb 7, 2020, 5:45 AM

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3990x be like

📎 38b6an.jpg

strong whale Feb 7, 2020, 5:47 AM

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That pic is amazing

dense wasp Feb 7, 2020, 7:53 AM

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@median moon nice! Also got 2x of those yesterday 🤓

jade ermine Feb 7, 2020, 8:58 AM

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The fancy 3700X! enjoy @median moon

median moon Feb 7, 2020, 3:16 PM

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thank all 🤗 💙

dusty pumice Feb 7, 2020, 3:46 PM

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Enjoy it! @dense wasp you got some 3990X'es in the package too o.o?? ??

dense wasp Feb 7, 2020, 3:46 PM

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haha sadly not!

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I wish

dusty pumice Feb 7, 2020, 3:46 PM

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Ahh what a shame

dense wasp Feb 7, 2020, 3:46 PM

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that wouldve been something

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thinking about getting a 3950x for my testing rig though..

dusty pumice Feb 7, 2020, 3:47 PM

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Yeah would of been a nice combo with the 2080ti's you still got in boxes? lmfao

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or did you finally unbox those lol

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I am thinking about a 3950x myself but dont know if i want to pull the trigger on it just yet

median moon Feb 7, 2020, 3:50 PM

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👀

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whaddaya need a 3950x for

fading compass Feb 7, 2020, 3:55 PM

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^

dense wasp Feb 7, 2020, 3:55 PM

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^^

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nothing really, but it's nice.. haha

dusty pumice Feb 7, 2020, 3:56 PM

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What does one not need a 3950x for

dense wasp Feb 7, 2020, 3:56 PM

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also true

dusty pumice Feb 7, 2020, 3:56 PM

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A fancy keyring!

vapid crypt Feb 7, 2020, 3:56 PM

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It provides great performance in literally everything for years to come

fading compass Feb 7, 2020, 3:57 PM

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I wouldn’t get it just for gaming.

dusty pumice Feb 7, 2020, 3:57 PM

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I would get it to chuck across the room! just as a statement

fading compass Feb 7, 2020, 3:58 PM

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Assert dominance

dusty pumice Feb 7, 2020, 3:58 PM

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cant be a beta in this time of the year

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gotta show the corona virus where ready to fight it with technology!

fading compass Feb 7, 2020, 3:58 PM

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Corona virus can’t beat my 16 core processor thinkban

vapid crypt Feb 7, 2020, 3:59 PM

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I really don't like that phrase just for gaming, as if there are people that literally only just game on their PCs. In any case, any 6 - 8 core processor with SMT will game well and provide a little extra for multitasking during. PirateSimon

median moon Feb 7, 2020, 4:00 PM

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corona cant beat my 128 core threadripper 120990X

dusty pumice Feb 7, 2020, 4:00 PM

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Just for gaming phrase seems to be a thing off the past

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Less and less people use their CPU only for gaming

fading compass Feb 7, 2020, 4:01 PM

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I disagree, there are tons of people who have a computer just to play video games and web browse.

dusty pumice Feb 7, 2020, 4:01 PM

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Especially with these powerful cpus coming to the market now, and soon they will be way more affordable for the average consumer

fading compass Feb 7, 2020, 4:01 PM

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It’s certainly still a thing thinkering

vapid crypt Feb 7, 2020, 4:01 PM

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I guess if you literally only gamed 4 core 8 thread would be enough technically

fading compass Feb 7, 2020, 4:01 PM

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If your trying to tell me most people who game also use editing softwares for their fortnite montages and run VMs I’m gonna have to say no thinkyJuice

vapid crypt Feb 7, 2020, 4:02 PM

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But only just enough considering modern titles utilizing more threads

dusty pumice Feb 7, 2020, 4:02 PM

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I feel its still a thing now but soon it wont be a thing anymore

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I think the average consumer will only start to use their pc in a more efficient way, buying it for the sole purpose of gaming doesn't really see it as a benefit cost wise

fading compass Feb 7, 2020, 4:03 PM

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I doubt it. Computers just for video games is still prominent. It also depends on your term of efficient. Web browsing efficient or editing/rendering efficient

vapid crypt Feb 7, 2020, 4:04 PM

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With the prices coming down, you can literally get 6 cores 12 threads for 85 bucks now in the Ryzen 1600 AF, uh might be a bit higher now cause of demand but yeah phaWesker

fading compass Feb 7, 2020, 4:04 PM

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1600 AF verynice

median moon Feb 7, 2020, 4:04 PM

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1600 AF 👉 👉

vapid crypt Feb 7, 2020, 4:04 PM

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IMO that kills any i3, even if comet lake adds Hyperthreading to them

median moon Feb 7, 2020, 4:05 PM

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automatically

fading compass Feb 7, 2020, 4:05 PM

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i3 was pretty much dead besides workstation desktops.

median moon Feb 7, 2020, 4:05 PM

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workstation

thusly, ryzen

vapid crypt Feb 7, 2020, 4:05 PM

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Not actual workstation, um cheap work pcs is what he means I think

fading compass Feb 7, 2020, 4:05 PM

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Yeah

median moon Feb 7, 2020, 4:06 PM

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oh

vapid crypt Feb 7, 2020, 4:06 PM

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Shit you use for spreadsheets

dusty pumice Feb 7, 2020, 4:06 PM

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Alot of consumers and companys are dumping their old hardware anyway now because of that whole windows 7 thing

fading compass Feb 7, 2020, 4:06 PM

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I thought they were called workstations my bad

dusty pumice Feb 7, 2020, 4:06 PM

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Seen alot of decent computers just get dumped on the trash pile recently

vapid crypt Feb 7, 2020, 4:07 PM

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Yeah a Workstation PC is typically decent at rendering video, maybe even 3d renders and stuff like that.

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So your PC technically can be used for Workstation tasks

fading compass Feb 7, 2020, 4:07 PM

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*office pcs is the right term

regal laurel Feb 7, 2020, 4:42 PM

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3990X review by Hardware Unboxed btw :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtnPaB9bzGo

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often only scores 45-55% higher than the 3970X as expected

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depending on task it may scale better tho

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Interesting in this video to me is that he tried overclocking. Managing 3.7Ghz all-core at 1.2v

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however that already hits 77c in cinebench with a 360mm custom loop

vapid crypt Feb 7, 2020, 4:45 PM

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Double the cores, in order to maintain similar thermals it means sacrificing over all clockspeed. I think that makes sense

marsh sequoia Feb 7, 2020, 4:45 PM

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https://www.microcenter.com/product/617878/amd-ryzen-threadripper-3990x-29ghz-64-core-strx4-boxed-processor

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Holy moly 128 threads

median moon Feb 7, 2020, 4:46 PM

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rip xeon

vapid crypt Feb 7, 2020, 4:46 PM

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It'll single core boost similarly otherwise, so you know in case you wanted to use your 10k workstation pc to play GTFO; it'll be just fine PirateSimon

marsh sequoia Feb 7, 2020, 4:46 PM

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Ahh I see someone already posted lol

vapid crypt Feb 7, 2020, 4:47 PM

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Ludvig should give AMD the good ol' wink wink nudge nudge. We have a game to make here phaWesker

quick turtle Feb 7, 2020, 5:00 PM

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Lol

strong whale Feb 7, 2020, 5:16 PM

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Another thing to note is applications and software such as blender and especially video editors literally aren't capable of utilizing 128 threads yet, some barely manage to use over 100

median moon Feb 7, 2020, 5:48 PM

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fUtUrEpRoOfInG

vapid crypt Feb 7, 2020, 5:51 PM

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Its a product for like pro 3d artists and what not, you know hollywood level. You're not gonna need 128 threads let alone 64 if you're playing games, streaming maybe doing some light video editing of course phaWesker

thin tapir Feb 7, 2020, 5:51 PM

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i use a 970 and i can run gtfo very smoothly at 60fps

sick reef Feb 7, 2020, 5:52 PM

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You're not going to need 64 threads even streaming.

median moon Feb 7, 2020, 5:52 PM

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it's basically exactly what demonio said..

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it's meant for B I G budget rendering

vapid crypt Feb 7, 2020, 5:53 PM

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The LTT video did point out memory limitations though, like a soft limit of 256gb even if the theoretical limit is 2tb. So that could pose a problem for 8k rendering well apparently phaSheva

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I don't think I really understood that part phaSip

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There's always EPYC

median moon Feb 7, 2020, 5:57 PM

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EPYC is... different

vapid crypt Feb 7, 2020, 5:58 PM

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I think its why the limited the 3990x as they did, cause it could cut into EPYC technically. Though tbh considering the differences I don't know why

median moon Feb 7, 2020, 6:03 PM

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i mean the 3990X is basically just consumer EPYC

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so

strong whale Feb 7, 2020, 6:09 PM

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EPYC has a different feature-set and optimization all together, 3990x is designed for a single workstation, EPYC is optimized for network distribution, that being multiple computers

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EPYC also uses 8 channel memory while 3990x utilizes only 4

median moon Feb 7, 2020, 6:10 PM

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thusly, consumer EPYC

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3990X is singular epyc

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...essentially

strong whale Feb 7, 2020, 6:11 PM

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Amazingly enough you can in fact use EPYC for gaming, it doesn't perform very great but you can literally still use it with a mid spec graphics card and play games

median moon Feb 7, 2020, 6:11 PM

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well yeah it's a CPU innit

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just because it's optimized for networking doesn't mean it can't run cs:go

strong whale Feb 7, 2020, 6:12 PM

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What I'm saying is it performs surprisingly well for what it's designed for, thanks to AMD's scalable architecture

vapid crypt Feb 7, 2020, 6:12 PM

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Reminds me of the idea of grabbing an old Xeon for 40 bucks and just running that in a dirt cheap build

strong whale Feb 7, 2020, 6:13 PM

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What confuses me the most honestly is the massive price gap between EPYC and 3990x

median moon Feb 7, 2020, 6:14 PM

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@vapid crypt elaborate

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@strong whale how wide is the gap

strong whale Feb 7, 2020, 6:14 PM

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I think $6000 or something if i remember correctly

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lemme check again

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CAD that is

vapid crypt Feb 7, 2020, 6:14 PM

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Something I've seen TechYESCity do before, using an old Xeon set up to make a dirt cheap gaming build

median moon Feb 7, 2020, 6:14 PM

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holy

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oh

vapid crypt Feb 7, 2020, 6:15 PM

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And the difference is like 3000 I think

median moon Feb 7, 2020, 6:15 PM

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ok but why would you use a Xeon

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1600 AF breh

granite basin Feb 7, 2020, 6:16 PM

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amd for life

vapid crypt Feb 7, 2020, 6:17 PM

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No I know, but that was like way before you could get 6 core ryzens for so cheap

median moon Feb 7, 2020, 6:18 PM

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oh