#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk | GTFO | Page 69

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 5:46 AM

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well kinda?

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i'm playing stoneblock 2 atm

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doesn't use as much as say... sevtech

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 5:46 AM

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I can't mod minecraft for shit cause I'm dumb as hell kek

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 5:47 AM

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sevtech.. oh my GOD

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it's a nightmare

hard crag Feb 1, 2020, 5:47 AM

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I feel like at that point you just turned Minecraft into a game engine and you're playing something completely different

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 5:47 AM

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well it's the same game just with a lot of custom stuff

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all the basic stuff is still there

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but thousands of new objects and play rules etc

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If you doubt me, check out sevtech ages

hard crag Feb 1, 2020, 5:47 AM

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Custom? You may as well have custom netcode and UIs at that point.

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 5:48 AM

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Go on ^_~ do it

hard crag Feb 1, 2020, 5:48 AM

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Did you import your own drivers too ?

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lmao

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 5:48 AM

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Hey, it's java that's the problem here

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 5:48 AM

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Hm

hard crag Feb 1, 2020, 5:48 AM

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fuck java

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 5:48 AM

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exactly

hard crag Feb 1, 2020, 5:48 AM

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Like just as a language. Fuck it.

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 5:48 AM

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when running java, it says OOOHHH MEMORY!

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OMNOMMEMORY

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 5:49 AM

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Nice

hard crag Feb 1, 2020, 5:49 AM

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When you chew up more RAM than google chrome

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 5:49 AM

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yea... i also run that :p

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so i neeeed the memory XD

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20+ tabs open too sometimes

hard crag Feb 1, 2020, 5:49 AM

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I swear the way Chrome works is the more RAM you have available the more it takes, just to be a dick

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 5:49 AM

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Honestly I still have no idea of a reason I could ever use more than 16GB in my life though

hard crag Feb 1, 2020, 5:50 AM

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@fleet canopy If you dont work with Servers, Virtualization or Machine Learning. You dont need it

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 5:50 AM

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Do you know of a better browser app that is stable and can still save your passwords to the cloud?

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and autogenerate passwords?

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cause i always auto-generate

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and please don't say opera cause last time i used that it couldn't load much of anything :p

hard crag Feb 1, 2020, 5:50 AM

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Why in the flying fuck would you save passwords to the cloud?

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 5:50 AM

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Because

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Big brain

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:)

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Also Opera is a joke

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 5:51 AM

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i'd have lost all my passwords due to last windows update corrupting the install

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so yea

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thank you cloud

hard crag Feb 1, 2020, 5:51 AM

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Do you have a notepad?

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Like a physical notepad?

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 5:51 AM

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please don't tell me you write down your passwords in meatspace

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 5:51 AM

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Hm

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I just remember mine

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Simple, easy to remember, probably not too hard to crack

hard crag Feb 1, 2020, 5:52 AM

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Im sorry but if you want secure passwords thats the only way.

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 5:52 AM

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PC has password! Notepad next to PC has passwords... derp get in PC!

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 5:52 AM

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I have like 4-6 passwords because I don't fucking know how

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 5:52 AM

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the most secure method is the memorize the shit

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but I auto-generate the most complex passwords a site allows

hard crag Feb 1, 2020, 5:52 AM

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Python script the password generator.

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then just write it down

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 5:53 AM

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im not gonna remember that and keeping that shit in meatspace isn't safe either :p

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 5:53 AM

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Write it down

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no

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Big ol

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Mind

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Staple password to brain

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ezpz

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:)

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I can remember my passwords

hard crag Feb 1, 2020, 5:53 AM

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@finite sentinel Whats more likely. I break into your house to steal a piece of paper or I pwn your computer and steal your passwords?

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 5:53 AM

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also, we've gone over the whole thing about security etc here before

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 5:53 AM

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But I can't remember my homework for shit

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 5:54 AM

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my passwords aren't saved locally

hard crag Feb 1, 2020, 5:54 AM

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Chrome caches it.

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 5:54 AM

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true

hard crag Feb 1, 2020, 5:54 AM

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Or I can just keylog every input

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 5:54 AM

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but you need a password to get in there too

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you'd have to install a keylogger

hard crag Feb 1, 2020, 5:54 AM

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If I own your computer that can be done in powershell

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I wouldnt need to install anything

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 5:55 AM

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I've literally gone over this discussion before in here

hard crag Feb 1, 2020, 5:55 AM

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To get your passwords I can just mimikatz to pull the passwords from RAM

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 5:55 AM

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i don't wanna do it again

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Suffice to say, i have nothing to steal

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therefore, it doesn't matter

hard crag Feb 1, 2020, 5:55 AM

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Everyone says that.

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 5:55 AM

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I have chrome autofill

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yea because how many people here are actually WORTH the effort to break into their PC?

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:55 AM

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tattoo your passwords on the inside of your eyelids

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 5:56 AM

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Yeah like

hard crag Feb 1, 2020, 5:56 AM

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@finite sentinel Your Name, Address, Bank Details are worth about 20 Grand

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:56 AM

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excuse me the 2tb of japanese porn I have saved on my hard drive is a national treasure

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 5:56 AM

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The amount of people's data is pretty much a little to literally useless

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 5:56 AM

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wow

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how could that shit be worth more than my actual net worth

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 5:56 AM

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Oh my

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Who'd go for all my info

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 5:56 AM

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i couldn't even get a credit card with my own info

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 5:56 AM

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I'm just some deadass man sitting on a chair everyday

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 5:57 AM

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so how can it be worth to someone else? :p

hard crag Feb 1, 2020, 5:57 AM

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Simple. Attacker uses those details to get online loans from sketchy sites and foots you with the bill

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 5:57 AM

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That's not possible because i can't even do that

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XD

hard crag Feb 1, 2020, 5:57 AM

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You sure?

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 5:57 AM

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I have no credit

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:57 AM

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there are a lot of predatory loaners out there if you go looking

hard crag Feb 1, 2020, 5:57 AM

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Give me the details I can probably find something.

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:57 AM

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loan to people that obviously can't pay it back

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sell the loan to a collector

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 5:58 AM

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Let's move on from this topic -_-

hard crag Feb 1, 2020, 5:58 AM

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lmao

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 5:58 AM

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I've literally gone over this before

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and you're talking about getting shady loans :p

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like loan shark type

hard crag Feb 1, 2020, 5:59 AM

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Not even. Some places dont mind the credit and just have stupid interest amounts

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 5:59 AM

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every place requires you to have income

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and since i have none they won't lend

hard crag Feb 1, 2020, 6:00 AM

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You just told us before you have income

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$750 a month right?

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 6:00 AM

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that's not counted for credit

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disability

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:00 AM

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750$ a month

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Is like

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Shit

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 6:00 AM

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yea that's literally half my monthly rent

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:00 AM

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It'll get you some food, probably pay off some bills

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But shit

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 6:00 AM

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my monthly rent is 1515

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:00 AM

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Sounds like 8$ an hour

hard crag Feb 1, 2020, 6:01 AM

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Disability Income is still proof of income which can be used by less than credible places for loans

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 6:01 AM

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you can go to the casino to double that money

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:^)

hard crag Feb 1, 2020, 6:01 AM

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Happens all the time in the UK for Payday Loans

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 6:01 AM

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nah it's all transfered directly to the housing

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 6:01 AM

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source of income: gambling

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:01 AM

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Or get better job I guess?

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Unless you really like your job idk lol

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 6:02 AM

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lol you missed the fact it's disability income

hard crag Feb 1, 2020, 6:02 AM

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Where the money goes doesn't matter to some places, just that its income is enough for some loan companies.

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:02 AM

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Oh

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 6:02 AM

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unable to work

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:02 AM

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Hm

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I never heard you said you had a disability

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 6:02 AM

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got in an accident

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:02 AM

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I must have forgot more likely

median moon Feb 1, 2020, 6:02 AM

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👁️

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 6:02 AM

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and im autistic + adhd

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:02 AM

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I just have too much shit to remember

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 6:02 AM

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but yea some ass ran a red light and t-boned me

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almost crushed me

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:02 AM

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Damn

median moon Feb 1, 2020, 6:03 AM

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@finite sentinel 🤗

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 6:03 AM

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i dunno i'd have preferred that i think, living a life of pain isn't pleasant

median moon Feb 1, 2020, 6:03 AM

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but

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._.

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 6:04 AM

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@hard crag does GPU passthrough allow a gpu to push the output to a different card?

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:04 AM

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I check a server I don't check

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All of a sudden

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 6:04 AM

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so i can have my displays hooked up to one card and use the other to do the heavy lifting then output via my primary card?

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:04 AM

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It feels way too wrong

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Fucking hell I'm never doing that again

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Speaking of security

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Placing some thing on the camera on a chromebook

hard crag Feb 1, 2020, 6:06 AM

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@finite sentinel I think you would need a SLI to do that

median moon Feb 1, 2020, 6:06 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vQCWBZ

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have revised

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:06 AM

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The only valuable info on a chromebook at my school

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Is nothing

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Change what?

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O

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GPU

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Hm

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Why?

median moon Feb 1, 2020, 6:06 AM

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that HM was

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very aggressive

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:07 AM

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Yes

median moon Feb 1, 2020, 6:07 AM

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save $ for a better monitor and i have literally no rtx games

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:07 AM

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The value of capitalization

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What the fuck

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155Hz

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That's fucking weird

hard crag Feb 1, 2020, 6:07 AM

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@fleet canopy You would just use the chromebook to pivot to the internal network of the school and then try find a way to the finance area,

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:07 AM

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Yeah but

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 6:07 AM

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@hard crag so in order to use pci passthrough i'd have to have a separate display for the VM?

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:07 AM

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It's pretty fucking dumb

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It's not like

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My school is rolling in hundreds of thousands

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It's not that private

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Did you change anything else @median moon

median moon Feb 1, 2020, 6:09 AM

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main SSD

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:09 AM

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And take note that it's 1440p

hard crag Feb 1, 2020, 6:09 AM

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@finite sentinel No i mean. Normally when the GPU calculates all the rendering etc it normally just outputs to what ever display is connected. In order to use a separate GPU for more than just mathematical calculation they would need to be working in a SLI

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:09 AM

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Have fun running medium/low

median moon Feb 1, 2020, 6:09 AM

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oh hell i forgot to change the mobo out

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big whoopsie

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:10 AM

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The TUF isn't bad

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Unless

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Ahem

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F u t u r e p r o o f

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:)

median moon Feb 1, 2020, 6:10 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PDxvq3

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:10 AM

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No

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No

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No

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No gigabyte

median moon Feb 1, 2020, 6:10 AM

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Gigabyte

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:10 AM

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Fuck gigabyte

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Never for mobo

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 6:10 AM

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@hard crag the guide says you need 2 GPUs for passthrough, one for linux and 1 for VM

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:10 AM

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GPU, that's cool

hard crag Feb 1, 2020, 6:10 AM

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@fleet canopy Even government school see thousands of dollars. So siphoning some of that would be profitable to a malicious actor.

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 6:11 AM

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That would imply i need a separate display for the VM

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:11 AM

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No googabutt

median moon Feb 1, 2020, 6:11 AM

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ok fine no googabutt

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:11 AM

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What do you want for a motherboard @median moon

hard crag Feb 1, 2020, 6:11 AM

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@finite sentinel oh, I mean.. you running the VM in Linux so you can just use a single display

median moon Feb 1, 2020, 6:11 AM

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wifi

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x570

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big boy vram

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not wallet busting

hard crag Feb 1, 2020, 6:12 AM

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Full screen the VM and you're fine.

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 6:12 AM

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@hard crag Are you certain? because the setup says to use pci passthrough to the VM

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that would give me native speeds

hard crag Feb 1, 2020, 6:13 AM

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I mean I cant see why you would need a separate display. But I would assume you have a second monitor with your setup.

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 6:13 AM

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My second monitor failed, i have a TV connected for watching youtube etc but...

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A capacitor on the control board failed

hard crag Feb 1, 2020, 6:13 AM

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yikes

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 6:13 AM

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I could open it and attempt repairs but...

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printed circuitry is hit or miss with home repairs

hard crag Feb 1, 2020, 6:14 AM

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I mean I just cant see any need for a second display, but could be a setup I havent seen before.

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:14 AM

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Now I don't know too much on mobos

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 6:14 AM

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i've repaired printed circuitry before but it's a pain in the ass

hard crag Feb 1, 2020, 6:14 AM

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Just follow the manual I would suggest.

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:14 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gwPgXL/msi-mpg-x570-gaming-edge-wifi-atx-am4-motherboard-mpg-x570-gaming-edge-wifi But this I heard is pretty good

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 6:14 AM

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I can follow the manual and see where it gets me i guess

hard crag Feb 1, 2020, 6:14 AM

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just dont do anything that could be irreversible

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Use spare drives etc

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 6:15 AM

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I want to get a 4k monitor but money is an issue for the forseeable future :p

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:15 AM

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Plus https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dmGnTW/asus-tuf-gaming-x570-plus-wi-fi-atx-am4-motherboard-tuf-gaming-x570-plus-wi-fi is jamming

median moon Feb 1, 2020, 6:15 AM

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thats what i had

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 6:15 AM

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I keep making the mistake of lending my loved ones money

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:15 AM

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Yes

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 6:15 AM

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they NEVER pay me back

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:15 AM

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Keep

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Is good

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 6:15 AM

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fking loved ones

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i hate em :p

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:15 AM

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Hm

median moon Feb 1, 2020, 6:16 AM

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o.k.

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:16 AM

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Gigabyte is just horrible on mobos

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 6:16 AM

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<.<

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:16 AM

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Just look it up, and you'll see threads that Gigabyte is hated

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Something about whatever the fuck idk who cares

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 6:16 AM

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Gigabyte Aorus is actually one of the top rated atm...

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:17 AM

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Yeah but I wouldn't trust even after it's hated so much on the internet

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 6:17 AM

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Shrug

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it's what i've got

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and it runs as expected

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:18 AM

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Fucking monitor is making me think of whether 1080p 144Hz, 1080p 240Hz, or 1440p 144Hz

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 6:19 AM

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well you'll notice 2 things if you switch to 1440p

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:19 AM

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Even if I heard of the fact 144 to 240Hz isn't much different

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I have had a 1440p

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 6:19 AM

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ah

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:19 AM

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But I didn't like not having smooth

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 6:19 AM

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it requires far more power

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yea

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gotta drop that dosh for 1440p

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:19 AM

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I've never actually saw 144Hz before

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300$ is the lowest I could find commonly

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 6:19 AM

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it looks great

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:20 AM

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For a lucky chance, there would be one at 270$

median moon Feb 1, 2020, 6:20 AM

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4K 240Hz

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 6:20 AM

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i mean, people say you can't tell the difference

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but you fking can

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:20 AM

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Or maybe even 250$

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 6:20 AM

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i mean, just moving the mouse across the screen is different

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:20 AM

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I mean, I went from 900p to 1440p

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Then I'm like

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"What the fuck is the difference?"

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Had a 1060 at the time

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Upgraded to 2070 Super

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"What the fuck is the difference?"

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 6:21 AM

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.>

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:21 AM

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Decided now to sell the 1440p at one point

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 6:21 AM

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wut?

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:21 AM

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Using the 900p

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"What the fuck those are shitty pixels"

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 6:21 AM

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1440p is vastly superior, can you do a side-by-side?

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:21 AM

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Yeah, funny ain't it

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 6:21 AM

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oh you must not do modern gaming then :p

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:21 AM

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I do modern

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R6S

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 6:21 AM

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GTFO on 1440 vs 1080 is very different

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:22 AM

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Haven't touched on GTFO compared

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 6:22 AM

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run both monitors and duplicate displays

median moon Feb 1, 2020, 6:22 AM

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GTFO VR

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imagine

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 6:22 AM

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lol

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:22 AM

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I have Tarkov though

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If that counts

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 6:22 AM

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They'd definitely need to fix the positional audio to do VR

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doesn't matter what game, duplicate display and run side by side

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:22 AM

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That's a big increase for having 1440p, easy to see faraway

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 6:22 AM

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youll SEE the difference

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:22 AM

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I have

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When I switched back to 900p

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 6:22 AM

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ah ok

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:22 AM

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Crappy pixel

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I hate

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 6:22 AM

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i thought you were saying there was no difference

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and it's huge :p

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:23 AM

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But I'm just going with 1080p 144hz because not have touched smooth yet

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 6:23 AM

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i'd never go back to 1080p...

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:23 AM

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I'll get a 1440p 144hz later on unless

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Sales are good

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 6:23 AM

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it would be like going from PS4 back to PS3

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the jaggies!

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:23 AM

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I would go back to PS3 anytime

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 6:24 AM

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saw my face off

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:24 AM

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I fuuuuucking loved Skate 2-3

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 6:24 AM

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:p

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i'm not talking about games etc im talking about visuals

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the jaggies!!!

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:24 AM

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Yeah the visuals are things

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But that doesn't judge the greatness of the game itself

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Skate 2 is a legend of a game

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 6:24 AM

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i remember when i upgraded from 480p to 1080p

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:24 AM

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The series is a fucking legend

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 6:24 AM

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i was like... how the fk did i get by before!?

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For i was blind but now i see!

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:25 AM

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Haha

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It's funny

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You first see 30FPS, smoothest game you've seen

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Then comes 60

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Ew 30 is trash

median moon Feb 1, 2020, 6:25 AM

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dog 30FPS is like my life right now

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:25 AM

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Any higher than 60 like 120 or more

median moon Feb 1, 2020, 6:25 AM

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life of a 1050 😔

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:25 AM

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Ew 60 is trash

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 6:25 AM

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120 fps is super nice

median moon Feb 1, 2020, 6:26 AM

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CSGO 700fps

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:26 AM

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10-15FPS used to be my life on PD2

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 6:26 AM

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i can't do that on most high end games but...

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:26 AM

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But did it mean it wasn't fun?

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No

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 6:26 AM

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i can get 120 on some top tier games but not all

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:26 AM

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It was an absolute fucking blast

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 6:26 AM

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depends on how optimized they are

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PD2?

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:26 AM

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Payday 2

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 6:26 AM

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thought so

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:26 AM

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The old days of PD2

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 6:26 AM

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yea

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:27 AM

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Great fucking game until it became a piece of trash

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So uhh

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I could go for 1080p 144 or 240Hz

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Or opt for 1440p 144hz if it's cheap enough

median moon Feb 1, 2020, 6:28 AM

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hey payday 2 isnt that bad :(

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 6:28 AM

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1440p 144 is affordable

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:28 AM

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It's shit now tbh

median moon Feb 1, 2020, 6:28 AM

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no

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:28 AM

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Yes

median moon Feb 1, 2020, 6:28 AM

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no

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:28 AM

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I dislike the game now

median moon Feb 1, 2020, 6:28 AM

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ok

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i like the game now and forever

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:28 AM

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It's still some fun, but it's nothing good tbh

median moon Feb 1, 2020, 6:28 AM

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minigun dodge

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:29 AM

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I'll check on the sales now, see if there might be a good deal

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And yeah dodge was the shit

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But it's become more of the sociopath pretty much

median moon Feb 1, 2020, 6:29 AM

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cant wait to play pd2 vr

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minigun dodge in VR

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:30 AM

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You should try experimenting with other builds, not just dodge

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Sociopath I believe is a good perk

median moon Feb 1, 2020, 6:30 AM

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uhh

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:30 AM

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I forgot

median moon Feb 1, 2020, 6:30 AM

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yes i have other builds >:/

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sociopath is definitely not meta

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:30 AM

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It's been some time since I've played it

median moon Feb 1, 2020, 6:31 AM

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sociopath is actually like

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Not good

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:31 AM

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I don't know ok lol

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It's been too long since

median moon Feb 1, 2020, 6:31 AM

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but

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then how can you say it's shit

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🐝

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:31 AM

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Because I've played it for over many hours

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And when it started having like

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The more lore thing

median moon Feb 1, 2020, 6:32 AM

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but... you haven't played it recently

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:32 AM

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It kept it alive

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But it didn't make it anymore fun tbh

median moon Feb 1, 2020, 6:32 AM

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bro you called sociopath a good deck, that was like 3 years ago

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 6:32 AM

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overshill

median moon Feb 1, 2020, 6:33 AM

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overshill

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:33 AM

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I don't fucking remember anything good about PD2 anymore

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 6:33 AM

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all I remember is

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:33 AM

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It's just not fun

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 6:33 AM

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100 dollar mask pack

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:33 AM

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There's a fucking 100$ mask pack?

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 6:33 AM

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h-hey guys it's N E O N

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:33 AM

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Or that's just

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The bundle

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Ah, the Completely Overkill?

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 6:34 AM

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there was this stupid ass limited time neon mask pack wasn't there

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:34 AM

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Now that's some limited edition shit

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Completely Ovekill is like

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Just fucking mod it in lol

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No one gives a shit anymore, just go download DLC unlocker and get it

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 6:35 AM

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Overshill and their stupid ass pricing on their million DLCs killed any desire to play their game

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:35 AM

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I bought their big ol bundle on their infinite fucking sale

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 6:35 AM

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and them marking dlc unlockers as "CHEATERS" and making them banned from lobbies by default

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:35 AM

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That was worth uhh

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100 hours

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Fuck it was such a boring game over time

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Thanatos thanatos thanatos thanatos thanatos thanatos

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Minigun Minigun Minigun Minigun Minigun

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So many

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There's like so many guns

median moon Feb 1, 2020, 6:36 AM

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lol remember heavy crossbow meta

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:36 AM

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That are near similar

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The mini minigun

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Like they have a lot of guns sure

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But they are literally the same fucking gun haha

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The Uzi

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The Micro Uzi

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The Hotline Miami Uzi

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The Uzi Uzi

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Like what the fuck Overkill haha

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 6:38 AM

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why put effort and resources into new assets

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:39 AM

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Train Simulator with guns

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 6:39 AM

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when you can reskin the same shit, give it some different numbers and sell it again

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:39 AM

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And I mean the 523899582390582 DLC game with guns

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Oh look

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It's the same map b-but!

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You gotta steal some dumb shit!

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Shadow Raid

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Then some day map that's not shadow raid

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 6:40 AM

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shaday raid

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:40 AM

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Same map

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Some fucking redesign on area

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It was great back then

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Actually original

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 6:40 AM

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overshill: WE ARE ONCE AGAIN ASKING FOR YOUR FINANCIAL SUPPORT

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:40 AM

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Not the same copypasta shit

median moon Feb 1, 2020, 6:42 AM

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nants ingonyama bagithi baba

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:43 AM

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What's a good price for 1440p 144hz? 300$?

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Dumb question, but I wanna be sure

median moon Feb 1, 2020, 6:44 AM

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$260-$280 if youse lookin fer a cheap un

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:44 AM

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Ah

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I've seen many of those

median moon Feb 1, 2020, 6:44 AM

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$300ish for quality™

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:44 AM

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So 300$ or more for better quality

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Hm

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Sounds like

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A bit over my price but I can do that

median moon Feb 1, 2020, 6:45 AM

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i mean you could steal mine

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1440p 155Hz for $300

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 7:09 AM

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Eh

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Guess I'll decide when I sell the monitor

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 7:10 AM

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Welp, my headphones are crapping out phaWesker

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 7:10 AM

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Oof

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God damn I'm getting too tired

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 7:11 AM

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Haven't even had em for that long, it had to be the part where the cable connects to it too

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 7:11 AM

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Oof

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 7:12 AM

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Might just get actual AKGs this time PirateSimon

median moon Feb 1, 2020, 7:15 AM

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👁️

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 7:25 AM

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At this point I wouldn't give a shit if I bought the VG271U Pbmiipx

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It is a good monitor after all

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Gotta be on sale at one point

median moon Feb 1, 2020, 7:27 AM

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spec s

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?

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 7:27 AM

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07NFK9XST?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

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"Alright so, this is a hard one because I really really really like this monitor. It's fantastic. It's an IPS so it looks absolutely fantastic, even more so considering it's 1440p. It's a 144hz, freesync monitor, gotta love that.. But if you go on Newegg or other places there are reviews that say it flickers.. and it does indeed flicker. Not alot, but it happens and those reviews all say that it happens gradually where it flickers a little and then it becomes unusable. So for what it is, besides the flickering, 10/10. But we have yet to see what may become of it. Hopefully, and I'm crossing my fingers here.. it doesn't become so bad that it's deemed unusable. We'll just have to wait and see.

Update** Jan.16.2020 A few months later and were still experiencing flickering but it has yet to become so bad it's deemed unusable. It flickers every so often but its only for a split second and it happens in like 20-40 minute intervals so I'm not that bothered. Other than that it's an exceptional monitor and its stunning to look at. I got this for practically nothing so i'm not that mad. THIS IS TO DISSUADE YOU. Unless you're into taking risks."

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Hm

median moon Feb 1, 2020, 7:30 AM

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hm

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 7:31 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Xywqqs/aoc-ag241qx-238-2560x1440-144hz-monitor-ag241qx

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What of this

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Shit goes wack prices

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But a sale will def get this a great price

median moon Feb 1, 2020, 7:32 AM

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🤷‍♂️

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 7:33 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BcTrxr/dell-monitor-s2716dg

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This seems to be good tbh

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With calibrations, it's supposed to be pretty sexy

median moon Feb 1, 2020, 7:36 AM

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why not just get this

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MXQG3C/dell-s2719dgf-270-2560x1440-155-hz-monitor-s2719dgf

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 7:38 AM

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I'll just have it as an option

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Alright then

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/LFRzK8/acer-xv272u-pbmiiprzx-270-2560x1440-144-hz-monitor-xv272u-pbmiiprzx - Acer XV272U

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/p4WfrH/msi-optix-mag27cq-270-2560x1440-144-hz-monitor-optix-mag27cq - MSI Optix MAG27CQ

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BcTrxr/dell-monitor-s2716dg - Dell S2716DG

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Xywqqs/aoc-ag241qx-238-2560x1440-144hz-monitor-ag241qx - AOC AG241QX

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MXQG3C/dell-s2719dgf-270-2560x1440-155-hz-monitor-s2719dgf - Dell S2719DGF

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Time to see what gets picked better

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Or whatever I get recommended lol

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Time to sleep

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Good night

median moon Feb 1, 2020, 7:43 AM

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good night

sick reef Feb 1, 2020, 8:26 AM

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I can reccommed S2716DG because I myself have had a good experience with mine

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The box is also good for travel.

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 8:28 AM

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my Asus VG248QE is getting pretty old

nimble kite Feb 1, 2020, 10:57 AM

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Guys I have heating issues with my GPU, should I just switch out the fan (its a generic fan) to a Noctua one, or do I swap out all the fans in my system?

jolly bobcat Feb 1, 2020, 11:02 AM

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@nimble kite First clean it

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Your whole cooling

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also do you have any fans blowing air out and in

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I recommend the rear as exhaust and the front as a intake

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if you have a liquid cooler check if you have a film of dust on the radiator

nimble kite Feb 1, 2020, 11:05 AM

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The front is slightly obscured by my front panel, so it might be a case of not enough intake perhaps?

jolly bobcat Feb 1, 2020, 11:05 AM

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well intake helps cycle air out so should be fine

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How much is it blocking

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I know some cases are built to obscure it a bit

nimble kite Feb 1, 2020, 11:07 AM

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It's got enough head room, as far as I can tell.

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It's just when I play some heavy games, temps go way crazy and crashes my thing

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I just had this couple months ago, but I'll try and do some air cleaning on it and see what happens.

jolly bobcat Feb 1, 2020, 11:08 AM

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First steps should be is checking for dust

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Can you open it at all or no?

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also depending on your video card do you know if there is a heat sink ?

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Feel free to let me know if you have any issues

nimble kite Feb 1, 2020, 11:13 AM

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My card's RX 5700X I believe

jolly bobcat Feb 1, 2020, 11:26 AM

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Should have a heatshield then so i dont think its a card issue make sure its updated thooo

clever mist Feb 1, 2020, 11:58 AM

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Should try reapplying thermal paste if you know how. What brand is the card and how old?

jolly bobcat Feb 1, 2020, 12:08 PM

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@clever mist If the video cawd is having heating issues I don't believe thewmal paste will solve the issue howevew they can twy taking the cawd appawt

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Shit dont weplace youw r key

clever mist Feb 1, 2020, 12:09 PM

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Lmao

jolly bobcat Feb 1, 2020, 12:09 PM

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Im fucking dying

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I webinded my keys

clever mist Feb 1, 2020, 12:09 PM

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It can if the thermal paste in the card itself is old and doesn't conduct enough heat to the heat sinks

jolly bobcat Feb 1, 2020, 12:10 PM

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yeah thats twue thewmal paste mainly helps with filling the gap between the cawd and the heat sink

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 12:10 PM

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fix your keys ReversedConfusedUlf

jolly bobcat Feb 1, 2020, 12:11 PM

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Honestly its kinda entewaining me

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I'm talking in fucking owo speech now

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 12:12 PM

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📎 owo.PNG

clever mist Feb 1, 2020, 12:12 PM

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hmmm

jolly bobcat Feb 1, 2020, 12:13 PM

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but see thats an extwa step

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shit I cant send pics

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I'm using SharpKeys

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oh wait I can

clever mist Feb 1, 2020, 12:14 PM

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Kinda straying off topic lmaoo

jolly bobcat Feb 1, 2020, 12:14 PM

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Yeah twue but I love pwoving my point

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ANYWHO

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Breaking windows is fun

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Cept now I got to paste the r key

nimble kite Feb 1, 2020, 12:32 PM

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Ok seems like GPU is fine (up'd the fan speed a bit, now I'm only hitting 60s on temp) but still having the same issue of pc shutting off, seems to be CPU temp is the causae.

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cause*

jolly bobcat Feb 1, 2020, 12:33 PM

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So fiwst check youw paste on the cpu that needs a good cleaning at times

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depending on how old it is you will need to weplace it

nimble kite Feb 1, 2020, 12:33 PM

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Just had this pc this december, so theoretically, it should still be good?

jolly bobcat Feb 1, 2020, 12:34 PM

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Did you build it?

nimble kite Feb 1, 2020, 12:34 PM

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Pre-built

jolly bobcat Feb 1, 2020, 12:35 PM

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Should be find then is it fan cooled?

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the CPU?

nimble kite Feb 1, 2020, 12:36 PM

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Yes, it is fan cooled. 2 front panel fans, one on the cpu itself, and one on the backend.

jolly bobcat Feb 1, 2020, 12:38 PM

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What cpu is it?

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And when you game whats the utilization ?

nimble kite Feb 1, 2020, 12:41 PM

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CPU is at 70 right now, close to 80s.

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Utilization is at 17%, just on the menu screen.

jolly bobcat Feb 1, 2020, 12:43 PM

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oh misswead

nimble kite Feb 1, 2020, 12:44 PM

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Definitely the CPU

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reaching 90s

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80s*

jolly bobcat Feb 1, 2020, 12:44 PM

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I would weapply paste and honestly you may need to wepace the coolew

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Also sowwy fow the text but I;m dedicated to doing a owo text week challange

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@nimble kite Twy updating youw CPU dwivews

nimble kite Feb 1, 2020, 12:45 PM

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Lmao, no problem, I'll probably do that. Rather than my pc go off on me every time.

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All my drivers are up to date.

jolly bobcat Feb 1, 2020, 12:45 PM

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Well shit, do you have paste on hand?

nimble kite Feb 1, 2020, 12:46 PM

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Not at the moment, will probably get one today, best buy right next door.

jolly bobcat Feb 1, 2020, 12:48 PM

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Oh that sounds pwetty easy I would not weccomend the insignia bwand if you want, it would not huwt upgwading the cpu coolew if you awe changing the paste

nimble kite Feb 1, 2020, 12:51 PM

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I'll probably change it to a noctua later this week, but I'll apply the paste later today.

jolly bobcat Feb 1, 2020, 12:51 PM

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Alwight Let me know how that goes I do believe thats the issue tho

nimble kite Feb 1, 2020, 12:52 PM

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And yeah, I saw the insignia one, definitely not going for that one. I'm planning on getting the corsair one the very least.

jolly bobcat Feb 1, 2020, 12:54 PM

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Cowsaiw is nice I got it when I build mine if I wemembew

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📎 unknown.png

fading compass Feb 1, 2020, 1:06 PM

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You are replacing the “r” with “w” thinkyOMEGA

jolly bobcat Feb 1, 2020, 1:07 PM

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Yesss now I speak the owo

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 4:20 PM

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So, i've been having issues getting my memory clocked to 4400mhz with 4 sticks on my x570 chipset

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gonna ditch 4400 and try to optimize 3600, running at 14/34@3200 atm

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 4:21 PM

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Hm

brisk badger Feb 1, 2020, 4:22 PM

#

faster memory means also that the CPU has to do more or in other words compete with that speed

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 4:22 PM

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The man, the myth, and the legend is typing

#

I'm not even gonna try to help

brisk badger Feb 1, 2020, 4:22 PM

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usually you need to increase the IMC voltages

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 4:22 PM

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Take it away Wooza

brisk badger Feb 1, 2020, 4:22 PM

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haha i have no idea about AMD sadly

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 4:22 PM

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lol

brisk badger Feb 1, 2020, 4:22 PM

#

but I would think that CPU may limit possibly

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4 sticks and 4400MHz is a lot for the CPU

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 4:23 PM

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With Ryzen 3000 you need to overclock the infinity fabric

#

Buildzoid made a video about all that actually, the best infinity fabric (FCLK) clocks vs RAM clocks and timings

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The thing is, there is a diminishing return, I don't think 4400 is optimal

brisk badger Feb 1, 2020, 4:25 PM

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is FCLK like BCLK ?

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i hate when vendors have to make their own naming

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 4:25 PM

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I think you start seeing diminishing returns after 3800ish

brisk badger Feb 1, 2020, 4:25 PM

#

what about the real latency which is a mix of latency and speed

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people like me believe it's the ultimate method to prove how fast the ram runs but I cannot back it of completely

remote horizon Feb 1, 2020, 4:27 PM

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I cant remember who tested it, but some techtuber did a latency+speed test with ryzen 3000

brisk badger Feb 1, 2020, 4:27 PM

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https://notkyon.moe/ram-latency.htm

Here you can find out the real latency

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 4:27 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nugwAOvijHQ

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This is the video from Buildzoid

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 4:28 PM

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@vapid crypt The only thing I will add to the conversation is that to my knowledge 3733mhz was the sweet spot for Ryzen, with as you said 3800 being the point of diminished returns

brisk badger Feb 1, 2020, 4:28 PM

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In other words: Faster speed RAM can still be slower when the CAS latency is too high

#

the formula is:

(CAS latency/RAM clock speed) x 2000 = latency in nanoseconds

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example: DDR3 with CAS 15 and 2400MHz is faster than a DDR3 with 2666MHz and CAS 17

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 4:29 PM

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3800 at CAS 14 seems to be the best going by Buildzoid's chart thing

brisk badger Feb 1, 2020, 4:29 PM

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(15/2400) x 2000 = 12.5 nanoseconds

vs

(17/2666) x 2000 = 12.75 nanoseconds

fading compass Feb 1, 2020, 4:31 PM

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rqnHgPrG059fpOjArpc_nFSDVG1dsjw6y3o9ujf4hro/htmlview?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

brisk badger Feb 1, 2020, 4:33 PM

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nice file. it's exactly the formula and for all possible values

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4800MHz and CAS 7 challenge, anyone?

fading compass Feb 1, 2020, 4:34 PM

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5000mhz when

remote horizon Feb 1, 2020, 4:35 PM

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ddr5 when Kreygasm

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 4:37 PM

#

Speaking of, have you checked what I put in for monitors @abstract kite ?

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 4:38 PM

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@fleet canopy Where?

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Haven't been keeping tabs on the chat for a sec

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 4:38 PM

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https://discordapp.com/channels/408196129470152705/584808651164745809/673070359586668544

fading compass Feb 1, 2020, 4:39 PM

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Acer one tbh

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 4:39 PM

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After having thought of the fact I have a good GPU, and I've had a 1440p

fading compass Feb 1, 2020, 4:40 PM

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Tis IPS

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 4:40 PM

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Heard there would be noticeable quality differences

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 4:40 PM

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Check out this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVd3LX2DCCQ

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 4:40 PM

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Hardware Unboxed

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 4:40 PM

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Tom knows a thing or two about a thing or three phaSip

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 4:40 PM

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Never have I seen a video link from someone with it not being Hardware Unboxed

fading compass Feb 1, 2020, 4:40 PM

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TN Panels aren’t worth for the average person.

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 4:41 PM

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And IPS is what you'd more likely recommend, no?

fading compass Feb 1, 2020, 4:41 PM

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Yeah, imo I’d say it’s the best.

#

In terms of response time it’s better than VA and has good color quality.

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I’m sure there are more terms to define color quality too lmfao.

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TN Panels are for like E-sport guys

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 4:43 PM

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@fleet canopy https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/b109fd2
MSI Optix MAG27CQ
sRGB: 110%, NTSC: 85%

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Best out of the bunch you posted imo

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 4:44 PM

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There's an IPS 1440p one from pixio going for 260 last I checked. The only downside if you're a fan of 144hz or higher is its 95hz

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 4:44 PM

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I want to stay at more than 120Hz for me tbh

brisk badger Feb 1, 2020, 4:44 PM

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why wouldn't TN be for the average user? It's generally cheaper to produce and I think also live longer generally

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 4:44 PM

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TN is pretty good for not having to care too much

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But I guess it's just the quality of the panel

fading compass Feb 1, 2020, 4:44 PM

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Your right I probably should of rephrased. “Gamer”.

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 4:46 PM

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TN is better now than it was 10 years ago. I mean if you've only used TN panels then you can go for it if you aren't interested in better color quality and viewing angles, And response times are faster at least phaSheva

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 4:46 PM

#

I guess it'd generally would be the better option for me, going for an IPS

#

Pretty sure the monitor I have was a VA or IPS

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200$, 2560x1440p, 60Hz, more likely IPS now I think of it

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The colors were much better

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 4:47 PM

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https://www.amazon.com/ViewSonic-VX2758-2KP-MHD-Frameless-FreeSync-DisplayPort/dp/B07VJJXDBX

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 4:47 PM

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Really let out that nice color effect I'm sure of

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 4:47 PM

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Look at that one

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 4:48 PM

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Doesn't look too bad

#

The monitor seems pretty good for it's price

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 4:49 PM

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Its basically just a lower tier LG monitor, if you want to look at it that way.

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Like the panel isn't as high quality, but its offering similar specs and features

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 4:50 PM

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Ah

#

I don't mind having to pay a bit more for a good monitor

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 4:50 PM

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Okay, but how much more?

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 4:51 PM

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Below 400$

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400$ and below is pretty good for me

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 4:51 PM

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Cause that one ticks the boxes for high refresh rate, 1440, and IPS. The flagship brands of the same specs are certainly over 400... but I mean we could look at those

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So this one from LG is certainly better, at a premium. Its uh on sale though phaSheva https://www.amazon.com/LG-27GL850-B-Ultragear-Compatible-Monitor/dp/B07TD94TQF

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 4:54 PM

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Oof, that's some price

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 4:57 PM

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Well I just found a nice 24" IPS 1440p 75hz one for 170 and uh I might get that one phaWesker It looks like the response time is higher than most other ones though

quick turtle Feb 1, 2020, 4:57 PM

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1440p or 4K isn’t for me

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 4:57 PM

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And yeah as far as sub 400 IPS 144hz, the viewsonic one is your best bet

quick turtle Feb 1, 2020, 4:57 PM

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Rather have 240hz

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 4:59 PM

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The MSI Bearz recommended for 370$ isn't bad though, no?

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 5:01 PM

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Well its a VA panel, curved are you used to curved panels? phaWesker

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 5:02 PM

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Never used a curved before

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 5:03 PM

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Oh its a "SVA" panel

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 5:03 PM

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SVA?

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 5:03 PM

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Something samsung made

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:03 PM

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I recommended it because that's one of the options that Mayo gave

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 5:03 PM

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Samsung VA I bet

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 5:03 PM

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Actually

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It means Super Vertical Alignment

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:03 PM

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didn't go and look one up myself 😅

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 5:03 PM

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Kek

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 5:03 PM

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It gets better viewing angles than regular VA allegedly

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But still not better than IPS

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Actually it might not be much different than IPS as far as viewing angles

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Eh, whatever seems good then

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:06 PM

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I'm not downplaying IPS, but I do have a question regarding it.

When exactly are you going to be looking at this screen at a 60 degree angle for IPS to be justified?

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lol

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Color reproduction aside I mean

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Sure it's a nice feature to have, but I don't understand the pizazz about it

quick turtle Feb 1, 2020, 5:07 PM

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When you have 3 monitors on your desk and it’s to your side I don’t know 😂

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 5:07 PM

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Thing is I still have no idea what's the difference between IPS and VA lol

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 5:07 PM

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Basically colors are different

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:08 PM

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@quick turtle But they're normally angled facing you tho 🤣

quick turtle Feb 1, 2020, 5:08 PM

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True

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 5:08 PM

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Its for those people with decked out eyefinity set ups

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 5:08 PM

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Hm

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 5:08 PM

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You know they got 3 on the desk and 2 above angled down phaWesker

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 5:09 PM

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Seems the Viewsonic has 3ms kek

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 5:09 PM

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That's really good for IPS

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The VA one is probably like 4ish or so

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:09 PM

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I'll probably invest in IPS since I like good color accuracy

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 5:09 PM

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Oh yeah it is an IPS after all

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:09 PM

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but TN hasn't been terrible so far

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 5:09 PM

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VA MSI is 1ms

gloomy river Feb 1, 2020, 5:10 PM

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Plus it's not just viewing angle, it's color accuracy as well. I've got a decent TN, and a decent ips, both look fine, but the ips is still miles ahead in color and looks so much nicer

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 5:10 PM

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They both advertise 1ms

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:10 PM

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I quit my job at the photography studio I was working at so I no longer need the perfect monitor lmao

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 5:10 PM

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But its all marketing phaSip

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VA has the slowest response time phaSheva

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 5:12 PM

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Ahem

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 5:12 PM

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📎 7dcd4c947a5a3c8b2e5b2162d4a41f6f.png

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 5:12 PM

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G i g a b y t e A O R U S

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Monitor

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Hm

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:13 PM

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The aorus monitor isnt bad ngl

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 5:13 PM

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Hm

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:13 PM

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still has terrible response times tho

nimble kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:13 PM

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Finally managed to get my cpu temps to go low, was idling at 60s earlier damn.

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:13 PM

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@nimble kite what was going on?

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 5:13 PM

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The best thing about Gigabyte Monitors is they typically have better names phaWesker

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 5:13 PM

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The only possible options I'd see for a monitor would be VG270U VG272U or 27GL83A-B

nimble kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:14 PM

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Power settings was set to best performance, so i turned it back to balanced + slightly lowered voltage

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:14 PM

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@vapid crypt the only thing lol

nimble kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:14 PM

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now im sitting at 38~41 idle

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:14 PM

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@nimble kite Ryzen?

nimble kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:14 PM

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Yes

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:14 PM

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Do an AIDA64 stress test

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 5:14 PM

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Stock cooler?

nimble kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:14 PM

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Not sure what that is but I did an OCCT one

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:15 PM

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I'll give you a link to it

nimble kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:15 PM

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And yes, stock cooler. Well tbh not sure because its a pre-built system.

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 5:15 PM

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Then its likely the stock cooler

nimble kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:15 PM

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Unless they start giving you colored fans as stock, then yeah I guess its stock.

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 5:15 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/LFRzK8/acer-xv272u-pbmiiprzx-270-2560x1440-144-hz-monitor-xv272u-pbmiiprzx XV272U

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8HF48d/acer-vg270u-pbmiipx-270-2560x1440-144-hz-monitor-vg270u-pbmiipx VG270U

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:15 PM

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https://www.aida64.com/downloads
download AIDA64 Extreme

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 5:15 PM

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What is the difference here

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GWmythicalThonkCool

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 5:16 PM

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Well if its the Wraith Prism that has a RGB fan

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:16 PM

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^

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You should be looking at about 80C in AIDA64 on stock cooler

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 5:16 PM

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Like so

📎 iu.png

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:16 PM

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thats not bad but you'll know if your stable

nimble kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:17 PM

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I was already at 84 with OCCT earlier

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Probably be higher if this one's more intensive.

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:17 PM

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It is

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Prime95 and AIDA64 are some of the best to my knowledge

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I like AIDA more because of how brutal it is

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completely unrealistic since no application will stress your chip as much as this will

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but a good test to know if you're going to be 100% stable

quick turtle Feb 1, 2020, 5:18 PM

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Like so

📎 image0.jpg

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:18 PM

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RGB cooler

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everything else red

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Is it not syncing up?

quick turtle Feb 1, 2020, 5:19 PM

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It’s the stock cooler

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No it’s not

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Makes me mad

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:19 PM

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It can

nimble kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:19 PM

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My stock cooler is syncing apparently.

quick turtle Feb 1, 2020, 5:19 PM

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I don’t feel like opening my computer back up

nimble kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:19 PM

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Everything's green on my end. Cyberpower i think

quick turtle Feb 1, 2020, 5:19 PM

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I don’t stare at it anyways

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 5:20 PM

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I now see the difference

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:20 PM

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Try using this to sync it up
https://landing.coolermaster.com/pages/amd-ryzen-wraith-prism-rgb-software/

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 5:20 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/LFRzK8/acer-xv272u-pbmiiprzx-270-2560x1440-144-hz-monitor-xv272u-pbmiiprzx XV272U

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8HF48d/acer-vg270u-pbmiipx-270-2560x1440-144-hz-monitor-vg270u-pbmiipx VG270U

quick turtle Feb 1, 2020, 5:20 PM

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I don’t have the usb plugged in

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 5:20 PM

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Between those two

quick turtle Feb 1, 2020, 5:20 PM

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I’m lazy

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 5:20 PM

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It's the stand that's the difference

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:20 PM

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😐

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 5:21 PM

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God damn 5-15$ more

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 5:22 PM

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I'm pretty sure they're like the same panel well... almost. XV vs VG I dunno what the differences between the product line is

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 5:22 PM

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The stand is the only thing I could see different

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The cheaper one has 2 HDMI I think

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And the other 1

quick turtle Feb 1, 2020, 5:22 PM

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Probably has more dp

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 5:22 PM

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The XV one has USB on the side

nimble kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:22 PM

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Getting into 90~93 on the AIDA one

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 5:22 PM

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Other way around actually

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:23 PM

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@nimble kite Yikes turn it off

nimble kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:23 PM

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Already did lmao

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:23 PM

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What chip do you have

nimble kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:23 PM

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7 3700x

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:23 PM

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o k a y something's wrong there

quick turtle Feb 1, 2020, 5:23 PM

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O those run hot with the stock cooler bearz

nimble kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:23 PM

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was thinking of re-applying thermal on it just to see if it helps or not.

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:23 PM

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Mine hit 87C max @quick turtle

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 5:23 PM

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The airflow could be lacking phaSheva

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:23 PM

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on stock cooler

quick turtle Feb 1, 2020, 5:24 PM

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Even mine does, but mine is 3800x

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:24 PM

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Airflow could be lacking yes

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 5:24 PM

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Let's take a look at that front panel

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:24 PM

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If you've not enabled global c-states in the bios yet, I suggest you do

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that's something that helped my chip get cooler

quick turtle Feb 1, 2020, 5:24 PM

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?

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:24 PM

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or seems to

quick turtle Feb 1, 2020, 5:24 PM

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What does it do.

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Or you could just disable the automatic over clock

nimble kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:25 PM

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📎 JPEG_20200201_112513.jpg

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only thing that lets air in

quick turtle Feb 1, 2020, 5:25 PM

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Yikes

nimble kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:25 PM

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😂

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 5:25 PM

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Ah looks like an H500

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I mean its a good case... just not that great for front intake phaWesker

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:26 PM

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@quick turtle global c-states affect power efficiency.

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Making sure that's enabled will try to keep the chip cooler tmk

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Utilizes only what it needs

nimble kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:27 PM

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Well I shouldn't hit 90s in any other thing really

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The other test from earlier stabilized around 84~87

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:27 PM

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I'd assume you'd see around high 70s at most

quick turtle Feb 1, 2020, 5:27 PM

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I disabled the automatic over clock and it never hits 80 degrees

nimble kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:28 PM

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I'd probably lower the voltage a bit more if it still trips off. Been having shut offs playing SW:BF2

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:28 PM

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I can't tell if I have it on 🤣

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I dont believe I do

median moon Feb 1, 2020, 5:28 PM

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📣

wooden blaze Feb 1, 2020, 5:28 PM

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i have never once had my pc overheat
but then again i have a literal ac unit blowing on it

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:28 PM

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Oi oi glass 👋

nimble kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:28 PM

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Surprisingly everything runs fine on it though, just this game and BF:V

median moon Feb 1, 2020, 5:30 PM

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hullo

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 5:30 PM

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AC unit blowing into it phaWesker

nimble kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:30 PM

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that Max though

📎 Screenshot_53.png

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 5:30 PM

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What is that?

nimble kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:30 PM

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SlokaiLaughGif

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keeping track of the temp using msi afterburner

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 5:31 PM

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Oh I see

nimble kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:31 PM

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no clue why it hit 207, doubt any system would let their unit hit that high lmao

wooden blaze Feb 1, 2020, 5:31 PM

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doesnt water boil at like.... 100 degrees

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 5:31 PM

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Probably an error

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:32 PM

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That's definitely an error

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Otherwise your GPU would be dripping down your case

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You would be melting too

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That's 392F

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 5:32 PM

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well i suppose that's one form of "Liquid Cooling"

median moon Feb 1, 2020, 5:33 PM

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when you pour liquid oxygen into your cooling loop

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 5:33 PM

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it turns to liquid then cools :p

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 5:33 PM

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It would literally be on fire

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:33 PM

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@finite sentinel Hah thats a knee slapper

median moon Feb 1, 2020, 5:33 PM

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liquid COOLing

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doesn't actually lower temps, just looks dope

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 5:33 PM

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so i set my memory to 3600 cl16

median moon Feb 1, 2020, 5:33 PM

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😎

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nice

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 5:33 PM

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it wouldn't run 4 dimms at 4400

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only 2 =/

median moon Feb 1, 2020, 5:33 PM

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🇫

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 5:34 PM

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to be fair that is expected with daisy chain topology

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 5:34 PM

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Well there's a diminishing return passed 3800 apparently so

knotty haven Feb 1, 2020, 5:34 PM

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ok boomer

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 5:34 PM

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depends purely on timings

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my 4400mhz at cl19 actually beats out 3600 @cl16 by a tiny margin

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but it's negligible

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:34 PM

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Ye

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The minor difference isn't going to be noticed

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especially with four sticks

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 5:35 PM

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and memory testing comes back just fine at current clock thankfully

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pretty sure this is just dual channel

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:35 PM

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Ah

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 5:35 PM

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yea just dual

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quad is only on the enthusiast level boards

regal laurel Feb 1, 2020, 5:36 PM

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why not go for 3800?

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 5:36 PM

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i tried 3800, i gave up after trying 2 different timings/voltages

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16-16-17-16-32 @1.4v would crash at windows

knotty haven Feb 1, 2020, 5:37 PM

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ok

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boomer

wooden blaze Feb 1, 2020, 5:37 PM

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ok
doomer

knotty haven Feb 1, 2020, 5:37 PM

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yes.

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 5:37 PM

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You could probably get 3800 at dual channel, but yeah that's the weird limitations

brisk badger Feb 1, 2020, 5:37 PM

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you can play a bit with timings. it can take a lot of times finding the values that fit and are stable

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 5:37 PM

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yea i can play with timings, if i weren't so lazy :3

knotty haven Feb 1, 2020, 5:37 PM

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DIES in dual channel

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 5:37 PM

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Maybe CL 17 around there would work

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 5:37 PM

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i used the ryzen memory calculator at safe settings for 3800

regal laurel Feb 1, 2020, 5:38 PM

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and you may remember you said you were able to get way over 2000mhz fclk last time, is that still the case or have you unlinked it now to get those 4400mhz from before?

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 5:38 PM

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i mean i guess i could try again

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 5:38 PM

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That memory modules do you have, is it Samsung or Hynix?

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 5:38 PM

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i got to 2200mhz fclk with 2 dimms

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but this board is daisy chain topology, 4 dimms wouldn't get it

regal laurel Feb 1, 2020, 5:39 PM

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you could theoretically exchange your dimms then

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 5:39 PM

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i could

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the issue is, i've already RMA'd them

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and i got one set for free

regal laurel Feb 1, 2020, 5:39 PM

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i think it was those viper steel ones

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 5:40 PM

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yea

regal laurel Feb 1, 2020, 5:40 PM

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b-die obviously

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 5:40 PM

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of course

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it's not worth the hassle for a negligible increase in speed

regal laurel Feb 1, 2020, 5:40 PM

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and you were semi-stable with 4400mhz cl19?

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 5:41 PM

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i was completely stable with 4400mhz cl19

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i might try 3800 again later

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but it's a pain in the ass when you reboot and it takes over a minute to get to bios after a failed boot

regal laurel Feb 1, 2020, 5:41 PM

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one would assume you'd get a pretty decent result for 3800 awell then

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 5:41 PM

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yea

regal laurel Feb 1, 2020, 5:41 PM

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over a minute?

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 5:42 PM

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yea -_-

regal laurel Feb 1, 2020, 5:42 PM

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why that

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 5:42 PM

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no idea

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it gets past the cpu and dram tests then stays at video test for a minute

regal laurel Feb 1, 2020, 5:44 PM

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odd, would expect it to be "re-training" the ram, not video stuff

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anyways

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still a mystery to me how you're getting that high of a fclk

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:p

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hope u get your optimal performance tho

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 5:45 PM

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just enable overclocking and increase fclk

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it goes up to 2500

regal laurel Feb 1, 2020, 5:45 PM

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ah

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so you're saying I can just overclock my cpu to 10ghz cause that's how far the slider goes? :x

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 5:45 PM

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Must be a god tier binned 3800x

regal laurel Feb 1, 2020, 5:45 PM

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probably

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 5:46 PM

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Since everything I've seen is like "Yeah 1900 is where you're probably gonna stop with that."

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 5:46 PM

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<.<

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I never said it would post at 2500 :p

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 5:47 PM

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Yes, but it apparently posted at 2200

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 5:47 PM

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i get it to run at 1900 just fine but windows crashed at the timings i used, i can try safer timings for 3800mhz

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yes it did

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i didn't test memory at those settings though

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i got into windows and immediately backed out, i don't wanna burn out my damn system :p

brisk badger Feb 1, 2020, 5:48 PM

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I would say overclocking ram in comparison to cpu overclocking etc. requires fine-tuning

regal laurel Feb 1, 2020, 5:49 PM

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and gpu overclocking these days is "+200mhz", go!

brisk badger Feb 1, 2020, 5:49 PM

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haha. it's true

finite sentinel Feb 1, 2020, 5:49 PM

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brb gonna try something

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 5:50 PM

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Just max out the power limit and the clock limit slider and it just works phaSip

brisk badger Feb 1, 2020, 5:50 PM

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gone are the days one solders the the GPU to give the core extra volt. Or to use special software to enable shader cores cause nvidia and ati once had "LE" and "SE" editions 😂

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 5:53 PM

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You can already flash the Bios on like a 5700, give it the XT bios and it effectively gets the stock performance. Which is easily ~10% or so, depends if you can overclock further

regal laurel Feb 1, 2020, 5:53 PM

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that's just clocks and tdp tho right? no "unlocking of extra cores"

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 5:54 PM

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Yeah its not unlocking extra cores, its just eliminating power limits

regal laurel Feb 1, 2020, 5:54 PM

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afaik AMDs product segmentation is just done through TDP limits

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 5:54 PM

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Its the same core, just with disabled CUs

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Or maybe removed entirely

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I'm not sure

brisk badger Feb 1, 2020, 5:56 PM

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Oh I also got a question actually. Something that nags me for a while. It's about AMD GPU. I have performance profiles or what they are called. the things that defines clocks etc. After every reboot this gets reset and it uses the default. I googled a bit and some reported msi afterburner causes this issue. I completely removed it but still got the issue. It's annoying to select the profile manually everytime i reboot

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 5:57 PM

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What driver version are you using?

brisk badger Feb 1, 2020, 5:57 PM

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i think a quite a buggy one. moment

regal laurel Feb 1, 2020, 5:57 PM

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5700 is 2304 cores and 5700xt is 2560 cores btw

brisk badger Feb 1, 2020, 5:57 PM

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20.1.2

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 5:57 PM

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Yeah I think that was a bug early on with the 2020 driver

brisk badger Feb 1, 2020, 5:58 PM

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But I am sure I had it before as, with 19.x.x drivers

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 5:58 PM

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I think it should be working normally with that one though

brisk badger Feb 1, 2020, 5:58 PM

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my gf has a fury x and i think same driver and it works normally

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 5:58 PM

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I'm using one version newer than that, 20.1.3

brisk badger Feb 1, 2020, 5:58 PM

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i use a 5700xt and it doesn't

regal laurel Feb 1, 2020, 5:58 PM

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which card brand?

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did you try using the brands tool

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like sapphire trixx

brisk badger Feb 1, 2020, 5:59 PM

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it's the asus one, with 3 fans. i don't remember the model name

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 5:59 PM

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Oh uh

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I mean there's two

regal laurel Feb 1, 2020, 5:59 PM

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asus gpu tweak i think they got

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 5:59 PM

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TUF and Strix

brisk badger Feb 1, 2020, 5:59 PM

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i did not try other . I was happy that AMD unifies this into one app

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Strix it was!

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 5:59 PM

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The TUF one is bad because of bad memory cooling, and the Stix one from what I've seen

nimble kite Feb 1, 2020, 5:59 PM

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Aye finally I can play without having to worry about the damn thing shutting off lmao

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 6:00 PM

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Is really heavy and those screws are hanging

brisk badger Feb 1, 2020, 6:00 PM

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i have a benchtable xD

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 6:00 PM

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Like the mounting pressure is bad, you gotta tighten things up

brisk badger Feb 1, 2020, 6:00 PM

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the most ugliest pc probably i have out of all here

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 6:00 PM

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@nimble kite Dancydude

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 6:00 PM

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I think I saw it, the rats nest wasn't it? phaWesker

brisk badger Feb 1, 2020, 6:01 PM

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with some dust LOL

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but it works nicely XD

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i try updating the driver and report again

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 6:01 PM

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Might work better if it were neater, but if nothings overheating no harm's done

brisk badger Feb 1, 2020, 6:03 PM

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the gpu is always at 53° and vrm on 70-75° during playing. cpu is also fine.
Every now and then I blast some compressed air in the nest and hold on the other side the vacuum cleaner

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 6:03 PM

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Do you use an older case?

brisk badger Feb 1, 2020, 6:04 PM

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what do you mean? as case I use some cheap benchtable and it's standing on an ikea table

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 6:04 PM

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Oh I see

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Then that makes sense phaWesker

brisk badger Feb 1, 2020, 6:05 PM

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a benchtable is technically great in terms of thermals but it's a pain on the same time. especially if you have creatures like dogs and cats which creating lots of dust

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 6:05 PM

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Endless cat hair clogging up fans phaCrow

brisk badger Feb 1, 2020, 6:06 PM

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i bought on alieexpress or somewhere some big filter for the fans. it's good investment 😄

regal laurel Feb 1, 2020, 6:06 PM

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btw, you linked a monitor response time chart before, is there a bigger version of that or are those all they tested? wondering about benqs

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 6:07 PM

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Yeah that was uh what was tested for that video, a bunch of 1440p monitor picks pretty much

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The video is linked a bit before that

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 6:07 PM

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@brisk badger what if I need the dust filter because I create a lot of dust

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😛

regal laurel Feb 1, 2020, 6:08 PM

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yeah I've skipped through the vid aswell. I was just curious about whether there were any major improvements

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I got a xl2560 as soon as they came out, so the earliest 240hz panel

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:09 PM

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Hm

brisk badger Feb 1, 2020, 6:11 PM

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Bearz, everythings okay but smoking. That's just nasty to clean a smokers pc

abstract kite Feb 1, 2020, 6:11 PM

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oh god it definitely is

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I cleaned my uncle's out one time

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Nearly died

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 6:11 PM

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The Tar PirateSimon

brisk badger Feb 1, 2020, 6:11 PM

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cigarettes kill not only lifes. they also kill pc compononts :rip:

hollow quarry Feb 1, 2020, 6:12 PM

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I clean my pc weekly

vapid crypt Feb 1, 2020, 6:12 PM

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Should tell my buddy to stop smoking in his room... or just stop smoking alltogether phaWesker

hollow quarry Feb 1, 2020, 6:13 PM

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Just tell him to start vaping so it shorts out his pc

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:14 PM

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Kek

median moon Feb 1, 2020, 6:14 PM

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uh

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yeah i just considered that i'm gonna have to lay down some new ground rules regarding vaping in my apt.

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no smoke around my ~~life~~ pc

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:15 PM

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Better not in the apt

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Shit goes everywhere

hollow quarry Feb 1, 2020, 6:15 PM

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I kinda impulse bought a strix 1080 cause it was only $500 for a ripped box

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:15 PM

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And then starts to look like trash over time

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Shitty walls, shitty anything lol

median moon Feb 1, 2020, 6:15 PM

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why did you buy a 1080 though

hollow quarry Feb 1, 2020, 6:15 PM

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I’m beginning to regret my decision

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:16 PM

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median moon Feb 1, 2020, 6:16 PM

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2070S is better for the same price

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._.

hollow quarry Feb 1, 2020, 6:16 PM

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I probably should’ve got a 2070 or 5700xt

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:16 PM

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1080 Ti are about same price if I remember right

fading compass Feb 1, 2020, 6:16 PM

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500$ for a 1080 thinkyOMEGA

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:16 PM

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500$ better for 1080 Ti

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But 1080, fuck no

fading compass Feb 1, 2020, 6:16 PM

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You payed 500$ for an older 2060 PepeLaugh

hollow quarry Feb 1, 2020, 6:16 PM

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Listen, 1080’s are still $800 for me for some reason

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:16 PM

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Dafuq

fading compass Feb 1, 2020, 6:16 PM

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Because New prices lol

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:16 PM

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What about the 2000 series then?

fading compass Feb 1, 2020, 6:16 PM

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They don’t make 1080s anymore

fleet canopy Feb 1, 2020, 6:17 PM

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Yeah no I heard they don't make 1080 Ti anymore, still makes 1080

fading compass Feb 1, 2020, 6:17 PM

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1080s still being made?

hollow quarry Feb 1, 2020, 6:18 PM

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Listen, it’s not my personal pc

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I’m building it for a friend with my own money

fading compass Feb 1, 2020, 6:18 PM

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Nvm it’s not anymore lol

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If it was still made their Newegg prices wouldn’t be 800$ xtreemjoy