#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk

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abstract kite
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keeping the case open seems to lessen the frequency of shutdowns somewhat so I'll just keep the case open until the psu arrives tomorrow

fleet canopy
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That’s wack

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What’s the temps like

vapid crypt
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And weird

abstract kite
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yeah

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70 degrees under load on both cpu and gpu

fleet canopy
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Uhh

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Either fine or close to hitting

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Not sure

abstract kite
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it's fine

vapid crypt
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Nah that's no where near high

fleet canopy
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I’m clueless on what’s a good temp tbh lol

abstract kite
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amd stuff seem to run hotter than what I'm used to

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but it's not dangerous

vapid crypt
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Did you say it was a Red Devil card?

abstract kite
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yes

vapid crypt
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Yeah that's a good cooler

fleet canopy
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Red Hot Devil?

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Oh pls

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Okay

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Hosndirndi I dislike auto

abstract kite
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the ryzen stock cooler was hot garbage though

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fucking

fleet canopy
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Can burn in fire

abstract kite
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95 degrees under load

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swapped that shit right out as soon as I got new thermal paste

vapid crypt
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The voltage is too high on the cpu for whatever reason

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That's likely why

abstract kite
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even with the precision boost thingy turned off the chip would run hella hot

vapid crypt
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Its like the auto settings sets it to 1.4v

abstract kite
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I think I may have seen the voltage going from the regular 1.1 to uh

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1.3

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for whatever stupid reason

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but with a liquid cooler temps aren't a problem with the cpu for now

vapid crypt
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Its the worst stock cooler they have to offer though, the wraith stealth

abstract kite
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oh and

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the default thermal paste on it is absolutely disgusting

fleet canopy
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Cool

abstract kite
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it's like fucking goop

vapid crypt
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Uh yeah I heard it likes to cure and stick to the IHS

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Why you get people pulling their chips out sometimes phaWesker

abstract kite
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yeah it sticks real bad

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even with all the screws out the thing wouldn't budge so I was trying to figure out if I didn't screw them out enough or what

vapid crypt
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I got a tower cooler with my 2600, still have the stock cooler sitting in the box

abstract kite
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and then I realized I gotta twist it off

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because the goopy paste just stuck to the cpu

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it was like sticky before application too

fleet canopy
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Horrible

abstract kite
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Is it safe to put thermal paste on my sandwich?

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NT H2

fleet canopy
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Yes

vapid crypt
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Probably not

fleet canopy
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It’s also very recommended to use mayonnaise on the CPU socket for extreme cooling

abstract kite
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inject the thermal paste directly into your bloodstream

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nah man you gotta use the minty cool toothpaste

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I heard somebody used

fleet canopy
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Mayonnaise

abstract kite
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spermal paste

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imagine the smell

fleet canopy
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Very funny

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Stinky heat

vapid crypt
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Gross phaWesker

abstract kite
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but yeah

vapid crypt
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Actually the Mayo wouldn't be much better

abstract kite
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once that rm750x arrives

fleet canopy
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Haha

abstract kite
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I'll know what the problem was for sure

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Not enough spermal paste

fleet canopy
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Yeah you definitely needed a better PSU

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Hearing 780, it’s too old to run newer parts now, even if it met below max wattage

abstract kite
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rip my old parts

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the only part I'm still using that's from the old set is now uh

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the case

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I still have the old ssd and hdd but I'm not putting anything on them

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and my samsung m2 970 evo was cheaper and has more data than my 256gb samsung 840 pro

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so

vapid crypt
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If the case is equally as old, it must be a good one

abstract kite
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yup

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fractal design

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solid thing

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it's moved across half of the US with me

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I don't think they sell this model anymore though

vapid crypt
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Their Meshify C has been quite the popular case for a bit now

abstract kite
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I just checked and yeah they don't sell it anymore

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I'm using the define r4

minor matrix
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How to fix it from game freeze and pc crash

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Any settings tht can help?

abstract kite
dusty pumice
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good looking microwave

jade ermine
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Microwave with toaster oven technology

fleet canopy
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Should use a toaster oven as case

hard crag
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Yo can someone help me out with something ?

merry bay
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Hard to say until you tell us what it is monkaHmm

abstract kite
merry bay
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isn't half of the point for mechanical KB's the durability. Surely it can't be sturdy when only 24 bucks?

sick reef
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Half of the point is that it's more consistent

vapid crypt
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I got a keyboard within that price point, think I got it for 29. Its sturdy as fuck tbh, been using it for two years

sterile lake
regal laurel
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that's just a cherry switch guide, no?

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if i'm allowed to add my sauce

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you should check which switches it has, it's probably not cherrys at this price, but kailh or so

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look up what type of switch it is, linear, with a bump and/or clicky, whether it does have n-key rollover etc.

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other than that it's just about build quality. (keycaps and case)

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Also, the keyboard in the picture seems identical to the "KBParadise V80 Vintage TKL"

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its product page on mechanicalkeyboardscom has the exact same image that is

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on there it's 99$ with choice of various switches and manufacturers. So if you can verify you're looking at a genuine product and not a rip off, i'd assume it should be very good.

abstract kite
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Gateron and zilent switches are amazing too

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It is the KBParadise.

regal laurel
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that's just keycaps, no?

abstract kite
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🤔

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Shit it just might be

regal laurel
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as far as I can tell these are just the retro keycaps you buy there

abstract kite
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Well im dumb shite

regal laurel
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If you're intersted in a cheap mechanical one, there's some "hcman mechanical keyboard" btw, that's like 25$

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seems to have an aluminum plate, so decently strudy, but ~switches

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and terrible leds

abstract kite
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Stabilizers are also a factor

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@abstract kite Just checked and those are just the keycaps yes

regal laurel
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you're talking about spacebar, shift key stabilizers?

abstract kite
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Yep

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Terrible stabilizers can ruin the entire keyboard

regal laurel
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hm, depends how much you care about those keys ig :x

abstract kite
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I’d assume a lot

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Because you use them consistently

regal laurel
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dont think it matters much when you for example only use the short left shift key, and they mousewheel for bunnyhopping

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if they're more of a enthusiatic typer, obviously it matters more, ye :p

abstract kite
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Enter key as well

regal laurel
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just smack it with a fist

abstract kite
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Left shift has stabilizers as well

regal laurel
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depends on keyboard layout

abstract kite
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No it doesnt

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Only if you’re going 40%

regal laurel
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i've got a ducky one 2 mini with swiss layout afaik

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and it's left shift button is the size of a windows or ALT key

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no stabilizers

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terrible quality sorry

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but yeah it's fair to assume they're aiming for US layout

abstract kite
regal laurel
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😮 they ate your keycaps?

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hm, i'd say mine are not much less loose, but they seem to rattle a lot less

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up to Jog to decide how much that affects him tho I'd say 🙂

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as for keyboards, usuall better = lots more expensive

abstract kite
regal laurel
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huh, so that's same keyboard with new stabilizers or what am I looking at?

abstract kite
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That a k95 with stock stabilizers

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That's what you're going to get with lower end boards

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Those are also not lubed

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because I can't get into the board lol

regal laurel
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wow

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corsair k95?

abstract kite
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That much play is abysmal

vapid crypt
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That's a lower end board, shit its about as wobbly as mine phaWesker

abstract kite
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hence why I'm either going to buy a ducky or build my own soon

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Building my own will cost like $250 lmao

regal laurel
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both my corsair ones (k60 and k65 iirc) very terribly loud

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while both of my ducky ones are quieter and feel nicer

abstract kite
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That's stabilizers for you

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and the type of materials used

regal laurel
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i've also heard ducky selects better... bins? or cherry switches

abstract kite
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yes and no

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Browns are still kind of a scratchy switch

regal laurel
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I felt like the aluminum case doesn't really benefit them either

abstract kite
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it helps with rigidity

regal laurel
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but amplifies noise

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massive thump thump

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not heard a plastic mechanical keyboard be as loud as those

abstract kite
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That's why you lube your switches and stabilizers 🤣

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smoother travel + lower noise

regal laurel
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you mean manually lube them yourself? not rly into that

abstract kite
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You'd have to desolder them off of your ducky to be able to do that

regal laurel
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that too ye

abstract kite
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Since you have to get into the switch

regal laurel
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I guess it's the full custom way for you then

abstract kite
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True.

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its costly though

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hence why I'm buying a ducky until I can get in a better situation financially

regal laurel
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some ppl get a job to build a house

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this guy just wants to build a keyboard

abstract kite
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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I build and modify almost eveything I own 🤣

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I took my sennheisers apart to resolder all the connections when they had some issues

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Got new pads and cord for them

median moon
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@abstract kite 🤗

abstract kite
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I find it easier to spend more on custom items and maintain them instead of purchasing prebuilt stuff only to need to change/get rid of them later on whenever they fail

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@median moon 👋

regal laurel
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modifying headphones can be very much worth it yeah

abstract kite
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For sure

median moon
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yes

abstract kite
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I've had my Sennheisers for years and they just started giving me problems. Crack em open, resolder, replace the worn parts, and boom. New headset for a much cheaper price.

median moon
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me, buying a Sennheiser HD 1

abstract kite
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Tbf though

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don't buy senns

median moon
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wait not the HD 1

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what am i thinking of

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uhh

fading compass
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Razor hodphones

median moon
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HE 1

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:D

abstract kite
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There's plenty other headsets that can give better quality than sennheisers. lol

HE1s good lord lmao

regal laurel
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are those the 15k ones?

median moon
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59k

rich tundra
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i actually like my arctis pro from steelseries

abstract kite
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For real

Hifiman HE4XX. Planarsszzzz

median moon
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my arctis pro has served me well for a long time

regal laurel
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something with five at least

median moon
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TIL i got a vr game for free

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payday 2 VR 👀

regal laurel
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I thought you were gonna say "real life"

rich tundra
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yea, sadly its like $250 cuz of the dac

abstract kite
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Pros have a dac?

regal laurel
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only says 150 for me, can't see a dac tho

abstract kite
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wot?

median moon
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pros can get a dac

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but i got the one without it

regal laurel
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sounds like astro a50s then ig

rich tundra
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my audio is set to 5% because of how loud the game is

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then again, i have a acute sense of hearing also

abstract kite
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I just looked up the gamedac

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how is that even a dac

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24bit

regal laurel
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what's it even do?

abstract kite
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ₒₕ

vapid crypt
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Uh

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That seems overpriced

abstract kite
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That dac is a gimmick for what you get

vapid crypt
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And I don't even have a dac, so I wouldn't know phaWesker

median moon
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'tis why i skipped it

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👉 👉

rich tundra
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i bought it on sale

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micro center ftw

abstract kite
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XMOS U30881C10 USB receiver chip
384kHz/32 bit PCM and native DSD256

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compared to the gamedac's 96 kHz / 24-bit

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For the same price

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less actually

rich tundra
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i feel like i should get a audio card if i really cared about the DAC tho

abstract kite
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Audio cards really aren't much tbh

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standalone dac/amps are my preference

regal laurel
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that one is usbc IN and then 3.5mm out, balanced 2.5mm out, optical out, yes?

rich tundra
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before i bought this, i did try out other headsets

abstract kite
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Pretty much

rich tundra
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no bass = no go for me

abstract kite
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You'll surely get bass with close backs

rich tundra
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the asus rog headset looks good, however i dont like my ear touching the sound box

abstract kite
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Eh. I can't get behind many "gaming" headsets.

regal laurel
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do you get much difference from 24bit to 32bit or whatever you'd define the difference between the game dac and that one? I've got a fx-audio dac-x6 for example

rich tundra
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and really though, micro center should really put a pc near the headset stands

abstract kite
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The only one's I like are the cooler master MH752. Basically you get Takstar Pro 82s but with a twist.

to put it simply, it's a clearer tone

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32bit has advantages in being able to produce better sound

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Will everyone notice it?

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not really.

rich tundra
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unless ur an audiophile

abstract kite
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It's more of a question of: is it necessary for you?

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That I am @rich tundra lol

regal laurel
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well idk how much it matters compared to source material

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say sounds in a game

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or youtube video music

rich tundra
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i mean, is ray tracing necessary as of now?

fleet canopy
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Depends

rich tundra
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but ppl still spend 1k on it

fleet canopy
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If you like the games that has raytracing

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Then go for it

rich tundra
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name me 100 games that have ray tracing

vapid crypt
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They're buying into a beta pretty much

abstract kite
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Youtube is limited by bitrate

fleet canopy
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Honestly

abstract kite
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so a majority of what you're going to hear on the internet will have no difference with or without a dac

fleet canopy
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I dislike how the audio bitrate is capped

vapid crypt
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Not worth it at all, especially when the only graphics card worth using for the feature tbh is the 2080ti. And even then its only just barely fine

fleet canopy
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AMD might do ray tracing better if they are investing into ray trace

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But knowing AMD's 5700/XT

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Probably not

rich tundra
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and unless the 2080TI is more than 20% increase in performance i dont think imma switch out my 1080TI

vapid crypt
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Eh it won't matter to me, it'll just be another feature that I never turn on phaWesker

fleet canopy
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2080 Ti is 33% faster

rich tundra
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did u turn on ray tracing tho

fleet canopy
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2070 Super sucks at raytracing

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But its better than crappy crashing 5700XT lol

regal laurel
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I see, so probably not much of a difference to me.
And I really don't like how game devs are so hyped for raytracing rn... rather have them implement dx12 properly or even vulkan.

fleet canopy
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At this point, I'd just only stick to NVIDIA for GPUs

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Uuuunlesssss I hear no problems on AMD's GPUs for the next few lineups

serene folio
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So I've built a PC with MPG X570 Gaming Edge Wifi, a Ryzen 3700x using the stock fan, GTX 1660 ARMOR, Corsair vengeance 2x8gb ddr4 RAM and I can start the pc but there's no connection to the USB ports or the display/HDMI ports

rich tundra
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im really thinking of building another rig with AMD

vapid crypt
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Eh, the problems are blown out of proportion

regal laurel
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well do you think performance improvements for raytracing are going to come on the software side mainly? maybe the next gen will have four times the rtx cores simply

vapid crypt
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The only ones hyped seem to be console manufacturers

regal laurel
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other than that afaik the nvenc encoder on the 2000 series is much better than what amd currently has

fleet canopy
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Yeah, the ray tracing will be more optimized at one point

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Oh yeah

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Gotta get my drivers updated now

vapid crypt
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AMD's encoder is bad, and should be addressed. Not that I'm interested in using a gpu encoder anyway, but still phaSheva

fleet canopy
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There's a new NVIDIA driver for those unknowning

regal laurel
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@serene folio which usb ports and which display ports exactly?

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front io or rear io, gpu ports or ... gpu ports cause ryzen no integrated graphics I just realized

serene folio
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Rear

vapid crypt
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Well I would hope the "Discreet graphics required" was clear phaWesker

regal laurel
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make sure the gpu is seated correctly then? does that board have some sort of post code display... ?

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hm

serene folio
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I have

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It still doesn't work

regal laurel
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any leds on the mobo?

serene folio
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Yeah it lights up that the power is on

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Red however

regal laurel
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maybe check the manual whether red is anything special

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rear IO not working sounds pretty weird i must say

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should definitely make sure that everything is plugged in and seated correctly for a start

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otherwise maybe something broke

vapid crypt
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Do you have any alternate hardware you can troubleshoot with?

regal laurel
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that "EDGE" text on the vrm upside down looks like "390", so i thought i was looking at the wrong board for a second lol

vapid crypt
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It has the same post LEDs as my MSI board, they're right above the 24 pin

regal laurel
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and really none of the usbs work? the top ones appeart to be basic 2.0

vapid crypt
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Actually wait...

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This is literally the same PCB phaWesker

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I guess that makes sense

regal laurel
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probably mostly the same pcbs and only upgrade some features

vapid crypt
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Few things moved around, but like it has some of the same text

regal laurel
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and it actually does have an hdmi port on the rear io lol

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who's gonna put an APU in that for reel

vapid crypt
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They gotta include it or else people will complain... even if it'll only be one dude PirateSimon

regal laurel
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according to the online manual there's just "ez debug led"

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for cpu, dram, vga and boot

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nothing about colors i think

vapid crypt
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Yeah those are the leds above the 24 pin, they're all red

regal laurel
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so if the cpu one is lit, "indicates cpu is not detected or fail"

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I hope he's not put everything together into the system before testing whether it works...

vapid crypt
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Yeah uh... I mean I test booted outside of the case when I built mine the first time. And ultimately it didn't matter cause I had blue screen problems from having the ram installed incorrectly phaWesker

regal laurel
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what kind of "incorrectly" are we talking about? not all the way in or wrong slots? :p

vapid crypt
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Wrong channels

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If they weren't all the way in, it wouldn't post.

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Or well not register one of the sticks rather

regal laurel
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and that bluescreens? I was assuming it would like only register it as a single stick but be fine

vapid crypt
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I guess it depends on the manufacturer, it was an Asrock board. Once I moved the sticks over to the correct channels the blue screens stopped

regal laurel
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hm, guess it really wanted to tell you to fix it :p

vapid crypt
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I realized all of this in hindsight, cause I ended up refunding the board and replacing it phaWesker

regal laurel
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...

serene folio
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Not detecting DRAM

regal laurel
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define

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you've tested it with some other ram?

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or the dram led is red so u assume it's that

serene folio
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It is red

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I have been reseating and changing the slot it's in

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Nothing is helping

regal laurel
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you've tried a single stick?

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if it's not detecting either stick that's an unfortunate failurerate or the slots are broke

abstract kite
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yeet

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put in my rm650x

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time to try starting the game to see if it kills itself

regal laurel
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you're the HX850 guy right

abstract kite
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ye

regal laurel
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you said you got a rm750x tho

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heresy

serene folio
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It's fixed

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Bruh

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No combo until 2 and 4 worked

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Now it's booting up

regal laurel
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hm, sticks in slots 2 and 4 and it boots fine?

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so it didnt like 1&3 variant? or had you put them in 1&2 or 3&4? for proper dualchannel you need to either use 1&3 or 2&4

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and as el demonio just stated before, his pc apparently bluescreened from having them in 1&2 or so

serene folio
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Yikes RIP

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Yeah no 2 and 4 worked

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everything else didn't

regal laurel
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okay :p well, luckily it was only such a minor detail and no parts defect

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hf with ur new rig

serene folio
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Thanks fam

abstract kite
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@serene folio Remind me what board you’re using?

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Most ram configurations now are daisy chain

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With 2-4 being the dual channel configuration

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Some boards allow 1-3, but 2-4 is the most common.

regal laurel
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"MPG X570 Gaming Edge Wifi"

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and I'm pretty sure mine are in 1&3. Tho my board is whatever the no-daisy chain thingy is

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i think

abstract kite
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Some boards will allow that

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but daisychain has become the popular type

regal laurel
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yeah my board has t topology afaik

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good vrm tho

vapid crypt
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If its anything like my MSI board, then its likely 2 and 4

regal laurel
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yes if your pcb is effectively the same as gluecacke's it's probably 2&4 for him aswell

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z390 aorus elite is t topology tho afaik, which is probably why I can't get over 3600mhz :/

abstract kite
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Oh yea Gigabyte loved that

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My X570 Aorus Master was daisy chain though

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I think theyre switching iirc

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I need an opinion

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Bad

vapid crypt
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I'll try, but I'm an idiot. So I hope you understand phaWesker

abstract kite
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Locked into a theme with the second one

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But

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Pandas

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This will still be a temporary keeb until I can save up enough to get a custom, but I need something soon since my K95 has stabilizer issues

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and one’s cracked but somehow still working

regal laurel
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you mean you prefer the panda's looks?

vapid crypt
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If its only temporary, then get the slightly smaller one. If you really like those panda caps, couldn't you just get them later?

regal laurel
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and I'd say it's only 16$ more, so whatever

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unless 65% to 60% is a big difference to you

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afaik keycaps are usually more than 16$

abstract kite
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@vapid crypt Yes and do. They’re exclusive to the ducky miya afaik. I can’t find them for sale anywhere else. I’m okay with either a 60% or 65% board.

vapid crypt
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Well then its simple then, get the panda one if you really like the way it looks

abstract kite
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Those keycaps would probably be somewhere around $60 themselves tbh being dye-sup pbt

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Gotta find some b a m b o o wallpapers before I make the leap if I do

regal laurel
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that shouldn't be too hard i think

abstract kite
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Hopefully not lol

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The setup will change to green if it happens

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I may just get the mecha mini because of cost though

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Silent red switches add another $22

regal laurel
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oh you want silent red

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yeah that's quite a bit more expensive with the miya then ( for some reason?)

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124 vs 157

abstract kite
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sPeCiAl SwItChEs

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Lol

vapid crypt
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Special Switches for Special Fingertips phaSip

abstract kite
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Thankfully Tfue got a custom board instead of getting a Mecha Mini else I would have insane difficulty in getting one.

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Was thinking about a One 2 mini for a while

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but all them fortnite kids kept buying them up lol

regal laurel
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it's a pretty good keyboard tho i must say

abstract kite
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For sure!

fleet canopy
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Hm

median moon
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📣

abstract kite
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Keyboard AMSR yes

fleet canopy
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Hm

abstract kite
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Mhm

remote token
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is a gtx 760 at 3840 x 2160 at 60 Hz not good enough? bc i crashed the first time i started it

median moon
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uhh...

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most likely

remote token
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soo... 2070?

median moon
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2070 good

remote token
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kk thanks!

median moon
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be warned though

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you'll have to run games on lower settings than normal

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2070 is good but 4K will still fuck it up on high settings

fleet canopy
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4K is damn hard to run

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If possible, I'd recommend just finding a 1080p 144Hz or 1440p 144Hz

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Best to get 1080p though, because the GTX 760 can run alr on it

remote token
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what about a 2060? i think its time to upgrade anyhow...

fleet canopy
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The 2060 is allriiiighht

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Can't you get a 2060 Super for the same price?

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Wait nah

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Only like 50$ more

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Oh there's one for 20$ more

#

What's your currency?

median moon
#

AAaaAAAAAAAAA @abstract kite

#

i changed a few things .

#

@fleet canopy pls help too .

fleet canopy
#

Hm

#

What'd you change?

median moon
#

case, mobo

fleet canopy
#

The GPU bei- oh yeah you getting next lineup

median moon
#

ye

fleet canopy
#

A 3800X now? Missed the opportunity?

median moon
#

what

#

it's on sale

#

like super sale

fleet canopy
#

Oh that's not bad

median moon
#

$10 more than 3700x

fleet canopy
#

I thought you wanted a 3900X though

median moon
#

i did, but in retrospect it's really overkill

fleet canopy
#

For?

#

Like you don't play too demanding games?

median moon
#

the most demanding game i have is MW

fleet canopy
#

Don't want the RTX thing on that?

median moon
#

and even my i5/1050 laptop runs that on low

fleet canopy
#

Modern Warfare from experience

#

Wasn't too bad

#

It ran pretty well

median moon
#

then again

#

i hate MW

fleet canopy
#

lol

#

I liked the new gameplay

median moon
#

it's a fucking awful COD imo

fleet canopy
#

But the bugs

#

Thank god I didn't get it haha

median moon
#

they kept everything bad from the old MWs

#

but nothing good

fleet canopy
#

What about an EVGA card? Thought you liked them more

median moon
#

this one is small and has a MIR

#

and is cheap$$$

fleet canopy
#

Case have front mesh?

median moon
#

i don't really have brand loyalty outside of steelseries peripherals/AMD

#

yeah

fleet canopy
#

Looks solid wall

#

Oh cool

#

I don't really like the green thing company too much

#

Doesn't look a good investment for anything they give

vapid crypt
#

Okay mister I was gonna get a 9900KF but changed my mind after a week PirateSimon

median moon
#

shut

#

shut

fleet canopy
#

Everyone changes their mind lol

#

I went from wanting a 2080 Ti to wanting a 5700XT and then finally settling on a 2070 Super

vapid crypt
#

I have no brand loyalty, but I do like a good deal

fleet canopy
#

I too, don't have brand loyalty, but I just don't have their trust I guess

#

Well I take that back

#

After all, I went Gigabyte 2070 Super from a 1060 Gigabyte

#

Lol

median moon
#

i would like a 3080Ti, that way i can squeeze maybe 20fps out of minecraft with ultra shaders

vapid crypt
#

Like I got a cheap logitech mouse, cause from what I've read of it; it has a pretty high quality sensor and it was like 20 bucks

fleet canopy
#

Nah you'd be seeing 80+

#

Quake 2 RTX with 2080 Ti does 75FPS

median moon
#

that was a joke >:(

fleet canopy
#

Well

#

RTX was pretty fucking shit, lol

#

Oh yeah

#

2060 Super with 1440p

#

Can it do well?

median moon
#

wew

#

possibly

fleet canopy
#

I doubt

vapid crypt
#

Uh fuck I got a mechanical keyboard for 29 bucks, no lighting or anything just a plainish black tenkeyless with cherry blue knockoffs. Really solid been using it for 2 years almost

median moon
#

pong on a TITAN RTX

fleet canopy
#

You went

median moon
#

~17fps

fleet canopy
#

For a 144hz one

median moon
#

monitor is future proofed

fleet canopy
#

Ah ok

#

Of course, you're getting some wild ass GPU later on anyways

median moon
#

yeah

#

discount 2080Ti

fleet canopy
#

Bet the 3080 Ti can do 4K 120FPS

median moon
#

nah

#

i'd bet ~100 tops

vapid crypt
#

Its gonna be a used one phaSip

median moon
#

discount 2080Ti = 3070

vapid crypt
#

And I agree 120 4k, it'll get close

#

But not quite

median moon
#

if it'll run superhot vr i'm happy

vapid crypt
#

I'm pretty sure anything can run Superhot VR if its a midrange card from the last 4 years

fleet canopy
#

Like a 1060?

median moon
#

well

fleet canopy
#

1060 was VR ready

#

kek

median moon
#

if it'll run superhot VR

#

and uh

fleet canopy
#

It was labeled that

median moon
#

gooder games

#

ok yeah i'm still pissed my laptop was advertised as VR ready

#

yet is rocking a 1050

fleet canopy
#

haha

vapid crypt
#

I always thought the 1050ti was just at min spec for that

#

At least when it came out

fleet canopy
#

I believe the 1050 was VR ready

#

Or Ti

median moon
#

Ti was

#

not stock

fleet canopy
#

It's just laptop GPUs are shitter than the original

median moon
#

and the Ti was like the bare minimum

#

on desktop

#

1050 laptop = ew

vapid crypt
#

Kinda underwhelming cause what is that like a ~770 or something

fleet canopy
#

1050 laptop good for CSGO I guess

median moon
#

i mean hell it can barely run like

#

good roblox showcases

vapid crypt
#

Better than the laptop I was using, but that isn't saying much phaWesker

fleet canopy
#

That also raises a question for me

#

250 or 500GB M.2 2280 NVMe for windows boot?

median moon
#

500

vapid crypt
#

Do you have an Nvme already

#

Or some other SSD?

fleet canopy
#

No

vapid crypt
#

Then get the larger one

fleet canopy
#

Just a 860 Evo 1TB

vapid crypt
#

Oh okay, well you can probably just get the smaller one then if you only want to have the boot on there and almost nothing else

#

Maybe some important programs that would benefit from the speed, really it depends on how much you're willing to spend you know

fleet canopy
#

I can just get the program files to the bigger sized one

#

I don't mind paying extra for 500GB

#

Any M.2 2280 NVME to recommend?

vapid crypt
#

For the money the Sabrent Rocket is really good

fleet canopy
#

1TB for one of those

#

140$

vapid crypt
#

They have a gen 4 model too, but I doubt that would be necessary phaWesker

fleet canopy
#

That's not too bad a price tbh

vapid crypt
#

Hmm they've been going up I think, the 500 is like 80 last I looked

fleet canopy
#

512GB being 20-30$ cheaper than the 500GB one, hm

#

Oh it's a 4.0

vapid crypt
#

The rocket 4 that's the gen 4 one

#

It has a gold sticker on it?

fleet canopy
#

Ye gold

vapid crypt
#

Yeah and the gen 3 are blue

fleet canopy
#

Gen 4 has higher read/write apparently

#

From review, no difference in speed

#

Also help me, I've been sort of wanting AIO

vapid crypt
#

Well yeah how many people can actually tell the difference between a 15 second boot, and a 12 second boot without timing it PirateSimon

abstract kite
#

@median moon God no not that motherboard

fleet canopy
#

One of the Samsung SSDs were like 10 sec last I heard

#

Ew oh oof

#

Gigabyte

abstract kite
#

I just checked it

#

And no

vapid crypt
#

Uh yeah I'm going by my SSD which is a NVME QVL

fleet canopy
#

No gigabyte mobo

#

Nevermind

vapid crypt
#

So its slower than samsung, or well TCL

#

No QVL is slower I think right, and TCL is faster

#

Unless I'm getting things mixed up

fleet canopy
#

This is good, yeah?

#

I give no shit for price lol

vapid crypt
#

Yeah that's the one

#

Oh QLC is what I was thinking of

#

And TLC was the faster one

fleet canopy
#

Only for a bit to notice I picked out the G.Skill Ripjaw without knowing it was G.Skill

#

The timings seem a bit too low though

copper zealot
#

Bros i got the IB 350 Disk, this thing makes nvme look like a tortoise!

#

IBM*

fleet canopy
#

What

#

Is that?

copper zealot
#

IBM 1311 is coming out soon

#

thing is SMOKING

fleet canopy
#

Oh

#

Hm

#

Funny

#

Haha

copper zealot
#

🙂

#

Technically before Spinning disk drives were made, we were already on the right track

#

They were just cheaper 😦

fleet canopy
#

Hm

copper zealot
#

They were using onboard chips with disk files

#

instead of physical media

#

and i mean who can fill up 3.75 MB of pure text that like my bachelors exit paper

#

Capstone Thesis whatever

hard crag
#

heyo peoples

#

uwu

finite sentinel
#

o/

#

I need to make sure my needs are met before I install linux

abstract kite
#

@hard crag have you used CE any?

finite sentinel
#

And I need win10

abstract kite
#

dont put win and linux on the same drive

#

big mistake

finite sentinel
#

but i'd like to run it in VM so i can use linux for everything else while using win10 for games

abstract kite
#

i thought dual booting would be handy since i use both win and linux

#

but linux and win10 try to eat eachother even 6 partitions apart

finite sentinel
#

I've done dual boot no problem

abstract kite
#

maybe just me then

finite sentinel
#

ran fedora for years on a dual boot with win7

hard crag
#

@abstract kite nah ive not used CE

abstract kite
#

awww

#

i was hopin you could help me

hard crag
#

@finite sentinel if you wanna test distros just download VMware and some ISOs for different distros. Try out which ones you think you will like best

abstract kite
#

CE will randomly eat 2tb of space like a hungry child out of nowhere sometimes

hard crag
#

The only CE I use is Cheat Engine

#

uwu

finite sentinel
#

@hard crag My needs are specific, i stream so i need to be able to run the game off a windows shell, however best to do... and run everything else off linux

#

I'm big on performance

abstract kite
#

@hard crag thats what i meant -___-

hard crag
#

What specs you working with?

#

@abstract kite ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

abstract kite
#

ye

#

temp files to infinity

hard crag
#

@abstract kite Well... I dont exactly play with CE. Im not big on reverse engineering sadly.

finite sentinel
#

Ryzen 3800x, 32gb 4400Mhz Ram, X570 chipset, RTX 2070, P1 Crucial NVMe and some HDDs

abstract kite
#

reverse engineering is my jam

hard crag
#

I use it for Dark Souls and thats it lol

abstract kite
#

uunderstandable

hard crag
#

@finite sentinel NANI?!

abstract kite
#

4400hz?

finite sentinel
#

flexin the memory

hard crag
#

Just watch the SomeOrdinaryGamers video lmao

#

JESUS CHRIST

finite sentinel
#

lol

hard crag
#

You could run the exact same setup

finite sentinel
#

i got this memory for 130

abstract kite
#

i cant criticize i have 128gigs of ddr3

finite sentinel
#

normally it's 170 for 16gb

#

and i got 32gb for 130 :p

hard crag
#

Here

#

Enjoy your new build XD

abstract kite
#

someone gave me all their ram for free

#

ez 128

finite sentinel
#

got a TLDR?

fleet canopy
#

Hm

abstract kite
#

hi payo

hard crag
#

@finite sentinel Theres time stamps on the setup

finite sentinel
#

cause im not watching 40 mins of something im not interested in

fleet canopy
#

Hello Crypt

hard crag
#

you can skip the first 20mins

finite sentinel
#

yea im trying to ask what your point in linking it is?

abstract kite
#

@fleet canopy goodmorning cutie

hard crag
#

You wanted a distro and the setup for streaming and gaming right ?

fleet canopy
#

It is 11:37 PM

#

:)

finite sentinel
#

oh you mean it's a guide to setting up linux+win10 gaming?

hard crag
#

yup

finite sentinel
#

start with that next time :p

hard crag
#

smh

#

rood 😛

finite sentinel
#

sorry im autistic ❤️

hard crag
#

hey me too

finite sentinel
#

There were no timestamps!!!

hard crag
#

But yeah with your setup you can clone that one

#

check the comments

#

there is always timestamps

finite sentinel
#

my laziness is triggering

#

which is actually an autistic thing "I'm overwhelmed"

abstract kite
#

lol

hard crag
#

sigh

finite sentinel
#

Autistic brains are like... muscle cars that suddenly can't move if you put in passengers

#

<.<

#

"Wait you mean i gotta carry you? fk that..."

hard crag
#

May I suggest then... that you...

#

😉

finite sentinel
#

Lol i'll get through it eventually if i feel like it

#

i just can't be arsed

hard crag
#

Like i said tho. You can skip the first 20mins

#

thats just installing Manjaro

finite sentinel
#

apparently, if you're running linux you can't play Destiny 2

#

not sure if that's including running win10 VM

hard crag
#

Nah, if you install it into the VM then you can run it

#

Its just setting up VM Workstation that you need to do for that.

finite sentinel
#

yea

#

Pain in the ass... my brain is like "Why do it if you don't have to?" :p

hard crag
#

lmao you dont tbf

finite sentinel
#

i also do best with text walkthroughs

hard crag
#

Hmm... not sure if there is a text walkthrough for setting up Workstation

finite sentinel
#

"Shrug"

#

When i'm given step by step written instructions i learn easily

hard crag
#

Could just get the documentation for Workstation and Manjaro

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

finite sentinel
#

maybe, thanks for the input though

hard crag
#

No problem. Have fun tho, which ever you choose

finite sentinel
#

so watching the first bit "I'm sick and tired of windows update breaking my computer!"

#

yep, had that happen

#

that's why i had to rebuild -_-

#

Gonna use KDE

brittle flume
#

hello everyone, i have a quick question about the mouse since im new to pc gaming. whats a good mouse to start with for gaming?

finite sentinel
#

pick a mouse that fits your needs

hard crag
#

@finite sentinel KDE is a desktop environment that is used by the distro

finite sentinel
#

don't worry about "high performance" BS... some people say low DPI some say high dpi, i say go with adjustable

#

I know @hard crag :3

#

Manjaro KDE

hard crag
#

Ahh lol okay

#

Was gunna say cos you can customize it or swap it for another enviroment like GNOME or MATE

finite sentinel
#

Thankfully I still have my old GTX 970, i can use that as primary and passthrough the 2070 to windows

#

ok my nerd motor is running :3

#

looks like i'mma be doing this once i figure out how the gpu passthrough works

hard crag
#

lmao

#

hope you have fun then

#

Its always nice when you get into learning new stuff

finite sentinel
#

it's relearning old stuff for the most part

#

the thing im curious about is how gpu passthrough works for displays

hard crag
#

I mean virtualization and the stuff you can do with it is its own beast

finite sentinel
#

well here's the thing

hard crag
#

Sandboxing, Malware Analysis etc

finite sentinel
#

i'm using a beast of a monitor

#

and i wanna make sure the g-sync will work

hard crag
#

ahh

#

fairs

finite sentinel
#

pg279q

#

600USD monitor

hard crag
#

oof

finite sentinel
#

165mhz @1440p

wooden girder
fleet canopy
#

Are Oh Gee Certified price

hard crag
#

Im kinda jealous

wooden girder
#

I see. Filthy rich.

finite sentinel
#

i didn't pay the ROG price :p

#

no im not rich

#

im thrifty AF

#

i'm on disability

#

i get 750 a month :p

fleet canopy
#

It says 600$ sale, 700$ original

hard crag
#

oof

finite sentinel
#

I got it refurb for 400

#

then RMA'd it

#

i'm sneaky

fleet canopy
#

Ah

wooden girder
#

Still. Filthy Rich.

fleet canopy
#

Not bad method kek

finite sentinel
#

750/mo is barely broke

fleet canopy
#

750$ a month?

wooden girder
#

;^; I make 280/month.

finite sentinel
#

anyway i THINK i might need displayport 1.3...

#

i live in the USA

wooden girder
#

Canada.

finite sentinel
#

750/mo is HALF MY RENT

fleet canopy
#

But 750$ a month?

finite sentinel
#

i have government subsidized housing though

#

and a live-in aide

wooden girder
#

May I show you my CoMpUtEr?

finite sentinel
#

go for it

fleet canopy
#

But 750$ a month?

finite sentinel
#

750 a month yes, that's not eneough to live on unless you're thrifty AF

fleet canopy
#

I'm surprised

finite sentinel
#

awww cute little thing

#

mine would eat yours

fleet canopy
#

But that's cool if you don't mind it

wooden girder
#

Cute little Thing?! It's half my table long.

finite sentinel
#

the pics make it look smaller then

fleet canopy
#

Cute little table

finite sentinel
#

mine is a full tower

fleet canopy
#

But yeah

finite sentinel
#

yours looks like a mid

fleet canopy
#

It just looks

#

Small

hard crag
#

Thats smaller than a mid

#

or a very small mid

finite sentinel
#

yea mid at best

#

but doesn't look like ITX

#

itx is smaller

wooden girder
finite sentinel
#

ok yea my PC would DEVOUR yours

#

OMNOMNOM

fleet canopy
#

That's fucking small lol

hard crag
#

smol pp

#

pc*

wooden girder
#

He be vibin'

fleet canopy
#

I need 1,000$ just to finish off my build

wooden girder
#

CPU: Ryzen 7 3700X
GPU: RX 580 Nitro+

fleet canopy
#

1300$

#

Need

#

It'd be like 2000$ after it's done lol

#

1800-2100$ range

wooden girder
#

I need a new Power Supply.

finite sentinel
#

i only managed to afford my build because of back pay from Disability

#

they cut me off for 3 years so i was homeless

fleet canopy
#

750 or 850W?

wooden girder
#

Cuz I hate my Ketchup and Mustard cables.

I have 600W in that shit.

finite sentinel
#

lol

#

i just got the RM850x

fleet canopy
#

Should I go for 750 or 850W though lol

#

I know more is better

finite sentinel
#

my old PSU was a thermaltake toughpower 1200W but it's over 12 years old

fleet canopy
#

But it goes 300W more

wooden girder
#

750W is more than enough.
Unless you have watercooling.

finite sentinel
#

you can use an AIO at 750

fleet canopy
#

I'm looking forward to an AIO tbh

#

I def will upgrade it more though

#

So yeah

wooden girder
#

Then go for the 850.

fleet canopy
#

I should go with 850W tbh

#

I have a 650W

finite sentinel
#

yea i got the 850 because i use water cooling

#

i like having a 200w buffer

fleet canopy
#

I prefer 300W more than what PCPP would say it takes up in wattage

wooden girder
#

Being broke is sad.

fleet canopy
#

Simple gold or go for a plat?

finite sentinel
#

plat marks the price up too much

#

go for gold

finite sentinel
#

the RM850x is great

fleet canopy
#

There's also a G5, but that's like 140-150$

finite sentinel
#

it's what i just got

#

and i got it for 100

#

one sec there's a sale

#

oof it's over

fleet canopy
#

I plan on doing it all in 1 buy though

finite sentinel
#

ah

fleet canopy
#

Because I'm upgrading about the whole PC except GPU and maybe CPU cooler

finite sentinel
#

show me the PCPP list

fleet canopy
#

I have a DRP4

#

Should I just go for a 2018 version of the PSU I posted or no?

#

I heard Corsair had a pretty good PSU designer

#

Currently all I'm planning to get

finite sentinel
#

you should get patriot viper steel or patriot viper 4 ram

abstract kite
#

Corsair is a good PSU yes

#

They hired Jon Gerow on

#

and they've been really good since then

finite sentinel
#

for NVME i recommend the crucial P1

fleet canopy
#

I'm keeping RAM for simple ready out of box optimization

finite sentinel
#

solid speeds and solid price

abstract kite
#

Sabrent is another good alternative

finite sentinel
#

oh btw the rm850x white is more than the black version

#

for some reason they tack on 20 bucks for a white finish

fleet canopy
#

Nice

finite sentinel
#

What are you upgrading from CPU wise?

#

is it AM4?

abstract kite
#

It has white cables too

fleet canopy
#

7700K

#

Reason I have the X570

finite sentinel
#

your cooler might not be compatible

#

so stock?

fleet canopy
#

I have the AM4 thingy

#

on DRP4

finite sentinel
#

you have an AM4 bracket then? good

abstract kite
#

@finite sentinel DRP4 has AM4 bracket

fleet canopy
#

I think

abstract kite
#

It does

fleet canopy
#

Lemme check lol

dusty pumice
#

it dies

abstract kite
#

Can confirm since I have the same cooler

finite sentinel
#

yea i have an older AIO that had no AM4 bracket

fleet canopy
#

Meh fuck it

finite sentinel
#

i was sad

#

seidon 240m is great

abstract kite
#

@dusty pumice 😅

fleet canopy
#

I'll worry about that later, I can buy the brackets separately I guess

finite sentinel
#

Looks good

#

shoulda pulled this trigger on christmas tho like i did

#

you're paying the same price i paid for the 3800x

#

=/

dusty pumice
#

Mayo how much money ya got now lol

#

🤣

fleet canopy
#

I do not are have m o n e y

finite sentinel
#

yea i'm tapped out for... ever

fleet canopy
#

I'm just having this list so I improved it over time

#

I'll get a job soon enough this year maybe

finite sentinel
#

Always good

#

i actually need another 360mm fan for the top of my case

fleet canopy
#

Only in stock is newegg for P1

#

Hm

finite sentinel
#

My current build

fleet canopy
#

Hot

finite sentinel
#

and if you wanna ask why i have two different hard drives, one is older, one is newer...

fleet canopy
#

Eh

finite sentinel
#

Essentially the same HDD just one is the original design

fleet canopy
#

People have like 2-4 drives nowadays

finite sentinel
#

yea

#

I mean i've always had multiple drives

#

i used to run RAID but... these days it's not practical

fleet canopy
#

Only difference in the Black and white PSU price is 5$

#

Cool

#

I'll get the black anyways. Fits the color scheme more

#

Almost no fucking RGB haha

hard crag
#

@finite sentinel You used a personal RAID setup?

#

not NAS ?

fleet canopy
#

My GPU just have the "GIGABYTE" RGB rainbow effect though

finite sentinel
#

this is before NAS was a thing :p

fleet canopy
#

At this point, I'm just gonna soon enough pick up a 3080 that has no RGB on it haha

hard crag
#

ah

finite sentinel
#

I'd make a NAS now if i could afford it

hard crag
#

I mean RAID is still useful now

finite sentinel
#

but alas... getting this system tapped me out forever!

#

oh yes i know it is

fleet canopy
#

kek

#

Oh so that's why the RAM was fucking 160$

#

Fucking 2x16

finite sentinel
#

I'd set up a raid 5

#

or maybe a 50

hard crag
#

Honestly I need to get myself some cloud storage setup for my data dumps

#

Takes up too much space

finite sentinel
#

I'm really just sick of HDDs crashing :p

hard crag
#

lmao

finite sentinel
#

I lost a hard drive of data i'd had since highschool

#

i never backed it up :p

#

cause it was highschool stuff

fleet canopy
#

Oof

#

Eh

finite sentinel
#

we're talking a 20 year old drive

fleet canopy
#

Good enough reason

finite sentinel
#

and i could salvage it if i had a clean room

hard crag
#

Honestly if I could setup a db for Emails and hashes I'd just do that and throw it up on the cloud

finite sentinel
#

i dunno, many websites won't allow you to use personal email servers

#

pisses me off

fleet canopy
#

Did you mention anything about RAM?

finite sentinel
#

I said your RAM choice coulda been better

hard crag
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Oh I mean I just need a cloud based Database to access the info

fleet canopy
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It was 2x16, never saw it

finite sentinel
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patriot viper 4 might be a better pick

hard crag
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I collect data breaches for osint work

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but there too much data

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a lot of repeated data too

hard crag
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so a Database setup would more efficient

fleet canopy
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Wonder why 2x16GB, but eh

hard crag
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For standard gaming just use 2x8

finite sentinel
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do you only want 16?

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cause you had 32 before

hard crag
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32 is for heavy load work

fleet canopy
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No?

finite sentinel
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yea i stream so i need 32

fleet canopy
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I do have 24GB though for no reason

finite sentinel
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how much ram do you want muppy?

hard crag
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You dont need 32 for streaming tho ???

fleet canopy
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Heavy stream I guess?

finite sentinel
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I stream and host servers :p

fleet canopy
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Yeah

hard crag
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For servers I can see it

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but streaming is down to VRAM and BitRate

fleet canopy
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Could just get a separate PC that'll do the servers tbh

finite sentinel
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@hard crag I still use over 16GB when not hosting server when i play minecraft

hard crag
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How...

finite sentinel
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modpacks

fleet canopy
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kek

finite sentinel
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some modpacks take up to 10GB RAM -_-

hard crag
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WHAT ARE YOU MODDING ?>#

finite sentinel
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you've never played minecraft modpacks have you

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how about skyrim modding?

hard crag
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No I've modded the shit out of skyrim

finite sentinel
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when you have 400+ mods...

hard crag
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And I've never hit even 12GB of RAM

fleet canopy
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Fuck it idgaf honestly so I'll just get 32GB cause I give no shits

finite sentinel
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well skyrim maybe doesn't keep it in active memory

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but minecraft is java

fleet canopy
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Plus I'm alright with the 130$ price tag

hard crag
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If you use over 10GB of RAM modding Minecraft are you even playing minecraft anymore?