#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk

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knotty haven
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don hurt me

remote horizon
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XD

abstract kite
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We've already had the memes channel ascend

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We don't need the tech channel being removed either

median moon
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jfc

dusty pumice
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Doesnt General chat exist for these kind of conversations?

remote horizon
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RIP memes channel, you will be missed

abstract kite
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Yes

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šŸ‘

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Boosters Channel is lit

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Ikr?

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VIP

dusty pumice
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Lmfao didnt even know that shit existed

abstract kite
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We get to meme in there kekehands

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It's rarely used groundus

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^

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Last activity was nearly 12 hours ago

median moon
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:(

dusty pumice
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Oh LOL

abstract kite
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What are you taking about Bearz?

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There is activity now.

abstract kite
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There was lol

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šŸ˜›

quasi nymph
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Hi quick question
the game seems to have a lot of innate film grain which i cant really seem to find any options for
is it not possible to turn this off?
Its kinda annoying having TV static inside every shadow im not myself inside

vapid crypt
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So that is a bug, its not actually film grain from what I understand

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Apparently its the result of the game trying to render shadows of dust particles? At least if I recall correctly

hallow heath
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Does a Case Fan always blow into the direction of the grille side?

radiant garnet
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From what I remember from the alpha, it's some sort of ray traced lightning effect running with very few samples, with more samples near the middle of the screen. But it could also be a noise filter. This is speculation; I haven't actually poked the shaders

vapid crypt
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Are you referring to the grille of the case? Cause that doesn't make a difference, its generally apparent which way a fan blows by looking at it

merry bay
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It's a good rule of thumb, but I wouldn't trust it 100%. Haven't seen a fan that's not like that.

hallow heath
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Thats the case fan i have

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Grille side as in the back side with the logo and text

merry bay
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first pic would blow air up

vapid crypt
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So the first image is the rear of the fan, it blows in that direction yes

hallow heath
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Thanks šŸ‘

rancid kindle
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Brother is buying this rn

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Its still best bet right

merry bay
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The Crucial P1 is a little more prone to slowdowns, but good savings. Both options faster and cheaper than what the original list had though.

north bronze
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@vapid crypt IIRC the "film grain" is due to how GTFO handles lighting

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It's not something you can disable

rancid kindle
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Welp

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Too late now

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Guess we're sticking with that ssd

merry bay
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it won't be slow by any means. Just not as fast as you could've gotten ^^

regal laurel
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hmm

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I'd say definitely the SSD is a bit of a ~~ since there are nvme 1tb ssds that are not just a lot faster but also cheaper than the 860

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msi mech oc is not too bad, but the sapphire pulse cooler is better afaik, depends on local pricing tho

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could've gotten a cheaper set of maybe 3200mhz ram and overclocked to 3600 instead, but depends if u wanna deal with ram oc

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not sure about the perf of that darkrock but I think someone just had a built with a sycthe cooler for 60$ that probably performs better

merry bay
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3200 CL16 are bottom of the barrel stuff usually. Wouldn't expect
reasonable overclocks out of those. On a board like that too.

regal laurel
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and idk whether u needed to spend 145$ on the psu

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you'd have to spend some time searching for a potentially good kit yeah

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there's quite probably like a 80+ plat for that price

rancid kindle
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Ok but

regal laurel
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yeah, there are platinum rated ones for lower, not 750w ofc, but that system wcould never pull 750

rancid kindle
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Its still a good build

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Right?

regal laurel
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yeah, no worries, u just could've saved a few bucks here or there

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quality of the components is nice

merry bay
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A bit strange to ask for opinions immediately after buying it, but yeah it should be all good.

rancid kindle
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Yeye ik

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You guys all made that cart about 2 weeks ago

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After a long debate

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Its for my brother

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He woke up this morning and was like "aight screw it lets buy it all"

abstract kite
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@regal laurel @merry bay
I put @rancid kindle’s build together, and I’ll explain why I chose certain parts. Please keep in mind that I chose all of these with three things in mind:
Longevity, upgradability/futureproofing, and the given budget.

I chose the 1TB QVO because using an M.2 SSD prevents all of the SATA ports from being utilized on the Tomohawk Max.
The QVO is one of the cheaper SSDs while still being one of the most reliable. It’s faster than some, but yes, it isn’t the fastest.

If an M.2 was used, later storage upgradability would be hindered.

The B450 Tomohawk Max can only support ram up to 3866mhz. 3600Mhz is a decent sweet spot and is OC beginner friendly since all you need to do is just enable XMP. G.Skill uses Hynix die iirc, so it’s a good set.

I chose the MSI 5700 because of the $20 rebate you can currently get. The Mech cooler is perfectly sufficient for a 5700, but may be a different story for the 5700XT.

I’ll admit a 750W PSU is a bit overkill. However, having that capacity saves you from future costs when you upgrade CPU and GPU. Corsair has a 10 year warranty on PSUs, and has hired JonnyGuru (Jon Gerow) as their Director PSU R&D. Corsair PSUs have been extremely reliable since he joined the team, so it should last years.

rancid kindle
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šŸ˜®šŸ‘Œ

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<3

abstract kite
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Hope that explains a few of the choices

remote horizon
rancid kindle
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Perfect! Bro i can't thank you all enough. This channel has been my go to channel rn for a lot of computer stuff and I've always come out knowing more

abstract kite
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Feel free to ask any question you have. I’m sure someone here could answer them. šŸ™‚

fleet canopy
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Hm

regal laurel
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doesn't using the m.2 slot only disable the two additional sata ports in the bottom right corner, the upwards-facing ones?

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and having it disable all 6 sounds terrible, i'd have probably gone with a different motherboard then

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I meant that maybe getting a cheaper 3000-3200mhz kit and overclocking it to 3600 or whereever his FCLK maxxes out would work to save a few bucks, not recommended if no interest in manual ram oc'ing

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And yeah, should just get the cheapest, good cooler version of any gpu. I didnt look into prices for these specific models, just pointed out that f.e. the pulse would be better

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I don't really agree on the psu being "future proof" or what you're trying to say. Unless they're certain they want to upgrade to a super high core count cpu or a dual gpu setup, there's really no need to get over 550w

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I'd never tell anyone to not buy a high quality powersupply, like corsair makes, but there's also a balance for price to performance

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idk whether I'd go for a 145$ gold psu if there's the seasonic 650w platinum for like 125$?

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coming from someone with a RM1000 btw :p

brisk badger
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Kore is not wrong, but I also would have gone for the bigger Watt PSU

regal laurel
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something about efficiency curves , yeah idk, maybe the corsair will have 0rpm fan more often or so

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wouldn't rly judge a psu on how its gonna be going in 10 years tho

brisk badger
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I have around 12-13 psu's lying around and I am impressed that all of them work. 2 are older than 10 years by now.
Had only one PSU that died which was a Corsair AX860 which I think was also one if not the most expensive one lol

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Thermaltake Toughpower 800 W and Tagan 480 Watt are my oldest gems haha (not naming the unbranded ones)

abstract kite
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Thoughts on the 5700 PirateSimon

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?

vapid crypt
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Its a pretty good value GPU especially if you want to tinker a bit and flash an XT Bios onto one

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Speaking of which though, I just heard that AMD will be announcing their next generation of GPUs on March 5th

abstract kite
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Sounds hot

coral sand
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Probably literally considering it's AMD @abstract kite

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||I use a Vega 64, reference model, I'd know||

vapid crypt
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That's a hell of a cooler even if the card does run hot as shit phaWesker

coral sand
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Honestly, I just want raytracing

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AMID EVIL beckons me to replay it with that feature on

vapid crypt
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I didn't know Amid Evil had that feature

coral sand
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It got patched in

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Boomer shooters all have raytracing nowadays it seem

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Q2

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Amid Evil

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Q2

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Amid evil

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The list goes on

vapid crypt
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I'll cross my fingers for Dusk then PirateSimon

coral sand
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That'd be cool

vapid crypt
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Which actually I still need to play

coral sand
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Do it

vapid crypt
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I got it months ago

coral sand
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It's a great game

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Every episode is better than the previous one

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Which is rare for a boomer shooter

fleet canopy
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Yeah I should pick up Dusk as well

abstract kite
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@regal laurel ā€œThe motherboard M.2 slot #1 shares bandwidth with SATA 6.0 Gb/s ports. When the M.2 slot is populated, two SATA 6.0 Gb/s ports are disabledā€.

This issue isn’t across all B450s, but the Tomohawk Max is one that has it. However, it is one of the best boards you can get as a budget B450 option.

Overclocking 3000-3200mhz ram is a thing that could be done, yes. But as I said, for beginners it would be wiser imo to get 3600mhz ram and enable XMP. It’s the safest way to go while sill having good results. I wouldn’t recommend tweaking voltages and timings to everyone. lol

You answered another reason for having a high wattage PSU yourself. Aside from future proofing (e.g. 3600 - 3800X/3900X, 5700 - 2070S/2080S), efficiency curve is another factor I had in mind. Less stress on the PSU means it can be more efficient.

@brisk badger How old was that AX860? Jon Gerow started working for Corsair around 2017-2018 to my knowledge. Corsair PSUs prior to that weren’t optimal imho.

abstract kite
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That's hot.

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Oh sweet, attachments are not working

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I should get a velkcase with some custom panels.

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Man I love SFFpcs

jade ermine
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so smoll!

abstract kite
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@abstract kite thats actually amazin!

waxen orchid
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Sff builds are really satisfying to do

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You get the best of both worlds

abstract kite
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i like creativity on them

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:3

fleet canopy
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Stole it from PCPP, nice

waxen orchid
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I personally have a ghost s1 sff build, was really fun to research everything to make sure it all fit

coral sand
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Man, one of these days, I'm going to build a mini itx build

fleet canopy
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Yeah tbh that doesn’t sound bad

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I should do one at one point

coral sand
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I know I already intend that for my next one

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When I graduate college 3 years from now

abstract kite
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Trying to get one right now

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Velka case 5

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any comments?

fleet canopy
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Hot furry

abstract kite
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the fucking reverse bowsette on the wall

fleet canopy
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Bowsette is a dead joke

vapid crypt
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I have just one comment

fleet canopy
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Yes?

vapid crypt
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That was it phaWesker

abstract kite
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We can't say anything negative

fleet canopy
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Very nice comment

abstract kite
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But we can't say anything outstanding

fleet canopy
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I fucking love furries

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Outstanding, eh?

abstract kite
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I won't call that outstanding more so excited?

fleet canopy
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Kek

abstract kite
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i need to find some cursed battlestations PirateSimon

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"not our finest bruh moment."

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  • the spy
fleet canopy
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I love that first image

coral sand
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Zodiac killer's computer

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The machine used to produce America's number one podcast

random magnet
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oh those hurt me

knotty haven
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invade

abstract kite
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I'm very proud of this

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I'm getting there

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Nearly at 100wpm

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must get faster and not make mistakes

vapid crypt
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That's about as fast as I've gotten pretty much

coral sand
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What website?

vapid crypt
fleet canopy
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I believe it’s Typeracer

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Or they didn’t change the website look yet

abstract kite
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It's keyhero muppy

median moon
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i can type at ~125wpm at best

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but like 85% accuracy :l
hunt and peck gang

coral sand
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I'm horrible

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I need to work on it

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40 a sec

vapid crypt
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40 words per second?

fleet canopy
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Could do better on keyboard

coral sand
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I'll be practicing more tomorrow

fleet canopy
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Yes

abstract kite
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Your keyboard does have a play in it though

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My Cherry MX Browns are good at typing fast

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BUT

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They are kind of scratchy

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and I can't open up my K95 to lube them

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So they catch at certain point and rub which is nasty feeling

vapid crypt
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I use Outemu blues PirateSimon

abstract kite
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Those aren't bad

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what is the keyboard you have?

vapid crypt
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Some kind of Chinese OEM thing phaWesker

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I guess to be more specific the back panel says its an Easterntimes Tech I-500, but when I got it off Amazon it was advertised under a different brand and even has a different logo on the front so phaSheva

abstract kite
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Ahh thats fair

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Outemu's aren't bad switches though

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Cherry clones can be really good

vapid crypt
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Funny story, I got this keyboard like almost two years ago now. And the reason I did was cause I spilled coffee on my laptop and ruined the function of the T key so I had that for a while phaLeon

abstract kite
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my dream build right now for a keyboard is a tofu60 with either novelkey creams or gateron yellow inks and GMK keycaps.

the unfortunate thing is that that combo would cost upwards of 250+

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Still if its been reliable thats great to hear

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So I'm going to be content with getting a ducky mecha mini

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don't know if I want to get another set of browns or if I'll try red switches

vapid crypt
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I was thinking of trying out brown switches, aren't they like a lighter blue switch or something

abstract kite
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Blue switches have a click jacket making the distinct "click

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Browns don't have a click jacket, but instead they have a small bump on the switch to indicate when the circuit has been completed

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for the keystroke

vapid crypt
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Oh so its not only lighter but quieter

sour mist
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109775241117868607

fleet canopy
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?t lfg

rugged notchBOT
fleet canopy
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Yaaay

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I did it

vapid crypt
abstract kite
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lol typing tests

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I think I used to be able to get 140 on a good day back in high school with a good membrane keyboard

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that was good practice though

median moon
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šŸŒž

brisk badger
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Delidding gone wrong ? šŸ˜„

sick reef
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Wouldn't surprise me if it's two-component glued to the heatsink

supple ice
heavy cloud
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I've completed my first battle station

lilac oar
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only noticable complaint would be different monitors, would make it look even better :p

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(.. if the monitors were the same/same size atleast)

noble arrow
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ive been thinking of adding a second monitor to my setup but i dont think id use it enough

abstract kite
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I like it @heavy cloud!

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Only suggestion I gave is getting a boom arm for your snowball

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Makes a world of difference when it comes to background noise

heavy cloud
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@abstract kite ill look into that, i never even thought about that haha

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@lilac oar yeah, one is a 1440p and the other is my old 1080p they are both 27 inches i just have the main one elevated and angled differently

abstract kite
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You can get a cheap arm from Neewer on Amazon

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I use one and it does the job

heavy cloud
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nice ill get one

solemn orchid
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I need this

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bad

fleet canopy
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That looks like a sexy website

abstract kite
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Do it

median moon
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pulling the trigger next week šŸ‘€

fleet canopy
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No commit die

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Bad

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Mean

median moon
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Disclaimer: "Pulling the trigger" = buying PC parts, this is not a suicide note

fleet canopy
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Don’t do it

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Bad

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PC sug

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Console better

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Faster frames

median moon
fleet canopy
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Better graphics /s

median moon
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i remember when HDR was new fancy technology

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and ghost recon wildlands would be the first game with it

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now HDR is like "yeah ya get betta lights anytin else toots"

fleet canopy
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Thought HDR was older than Wildlands

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Or that’s console thing?

median moon
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console ting

fleet canopy
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Ah

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Didn’t notice much difference

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But uhh yeah

median moon
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bro building a PC is making me feel old as hell

fleet canopy
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I had a 1360x768 tv

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Building a PC is fun though, at least

median moon
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i watched an AVGN video today and he was like "but today, new technology like the Wii and the DS touch screen are around"

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šŸ§“

fleet canopy
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What

median moon
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it was from 08

fleet canopy
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The Wii was kind of ahead of its time

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The first kind of VR without the headset

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Smack the ball

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And get your ass clapped by Matt

median moon
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yeah but the point there is that the Wii, despite being so far ahead, is now like

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basically nothing

fleet canopy
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Ancient

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But it was some fun shit

median moon
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it's only been a decade and we're already harnessing quantum physics for better CSGO frames

fleet canopy
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Played the Mickey game where you use a paint brush to attack enemies and fix shit

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Was so fun

median moon
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epic mickey

fleet canopy
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Now it’s some game where you have to stay alive while hoping you don’t die

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Yes, Epic Mickey was fucking great

median moon
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speaking of good games

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i cannot wait to get my hands on H3

fleet canopy
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I still have the disc box to it I think

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Now I miss Epic Mickey

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God damn it

median moon
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i only played the second epic mickey

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which Sucke d

fleet canopy
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Yeah I think I played the 2nd as wel

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Pretty sure I played both

median moon
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skylanders bruh

fleet canopy
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Ehh

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I wasn’t much of a sky landers kid

median moon
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i was like

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a C tier skylanders fan

fleet canopy
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Never really got into Skylanders or

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PokƩmon

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Or

median moon
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i have like 6 of them and a Kaos trap but that's it

fleet canopy
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Well I played a bit of PokƩmon

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Never knew it well enough though

median moon
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US/UM are the best games

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ez

fleet canopy
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We still have more to explore in gaming though

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Soon enough, it’d be a small room or advanced tracking that’ll copy your exact movements

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Pure fitness I bet

median moon
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omnidirectional treadmills

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šŸ‘€

fleet canopy
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Yes

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Or floors that makes us slide easy peasy, but we can still move freely

twilit ether
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can someone help me upgrade my toaster

fleet canopy
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Yes

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What are it?

warped hedge
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i hate that amd is so toasty

regal laurel
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just use your car engine cooling on it

solemn orchid
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Is anyone here knowledgeable about arch linux?

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I need some help

warped hedge
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i went from air cooling to watercooling still trash temps

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thanks amd

vapid crypt
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What are you cooling?

warped hedge
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3800x

vapid crypt
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I see what temps are you getting?

warped hedge
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idle 30ish

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under stress ~75ish

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max of 80

vapid crypt
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So under stress what kind of load is that, like a prime95 load?

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Aida64 or something

warped hedge
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yeah

vapid crypt
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Well see that's like absolute peak power use, like obviously that doesn't really compare to typical loads. Like what kind of temps do you get in a game

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I would guess less than 60c

warped hedge
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havent gamed on it yet

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i just installed it

regal laurel
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how about clocks and which watercooler

warped hedge
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4.2ghz on a EVGA 120MM watercooler

regal laurel
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oof

warped hedge
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witch is stock

vapid crypt
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120mm yeah that's not really much better than air cooling

regal laurel
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I see, well 120s are a bit ~~~ for these cpus

warped hedge
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its better than the stock cooler

vapid crypt
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Aren't those priced pretty similar to a nice air cooler?

regal laurel
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the top of the line aircoolers like nh-d15 cool about as much as a decent 240

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yeah that's the thing

vapid crypt
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Like I think you could get a Fuma 2 for about as much as a 120 rad

warped hedge
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i already had it

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evga just sent me the am4 bracket for it

regal laurel
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evga clc 120 ?

warped hedge
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yes

vapid crypt
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Oh I see, I mean if you want better temps you could try undervolting. I heard undervolting sometimes improved performance

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Might be thinking of the GPUs actually

warped hedge
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i have a corsair 240mm rad but they told me to fuck off for am4 bracket

regal laurel
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those have such a cool looking block and fans dude... expensive tho

warped hedge
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i got the EVGA cooler on prime day on amazon for 20$ like a year ago

vapid crypt
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Well that's a bargain, I got a gammaxx 400 for that much phaWesker

regal laurel
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but either way max 80c in what? prime95 u said? fine i'd say

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check what voltage it's running at that point

warped hedge
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yeah prime95

regal laurel
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see if u can get it with less

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but i'd say it should be fine

warped hedge
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we pulling 105W max on this UNIT of a chip

regal laurel
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how'd u know that? 😮

warped hedge
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ryzen master

regal laurel
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I see, so it also limits it to 105w by lowering the clocks

abstract kite
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Aida64 is actually heavier than prime95 on these chips

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@warped hedge Stututututututu

vapid crypt
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I remember clock speeds being an issue around release where people weren't seeing expected boost clocks. Technically the boost clock is more of a marketing gimmick where its like "Yeah this'll reach 4.5, but only on one core and for like a few seconds or something." Apparently they improved things through BIOS updates, so I would look into that maybe phaSheva

abstract kite
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I could make my 3700X a 3800X if I boosted the wattage lol

regal laurel
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there's a video showing 3700x aida64 stress test 10min 89w

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85c on wraith prism

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71c on 360 aio ?

abstract kite
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Yea thats pretty normal

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On my 3700X I get around 75-77C in AIDA64 in a room of about 23C

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Limited to stock 65W though

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I’m not going to boost this chip all the way it can go for now

regal laurel
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what does it downclock to to get that 65w?

abstract kite
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4.0Ghz

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All core

regal laurel
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huh

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so 3800x at 4.2 is 105w, 4.0 is 65w?

abstract kite
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Apparently so

vapid crypt
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I'm pretty sure the 3800x is overvolted which is why its higher

abstract kite
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Surprisingly enough

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I push more voltage than his chip

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I lost the silicon lottery though

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So I need it to reach those clocks lol

regal laurel
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100% of 3800Xs should be able to hit 4.20ghz at 1.275v btw

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if stroker is still around

abstract kite
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@warped hedge

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Boi

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Get back here

regal laurel
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should maybe check whether it's auto volting around that or more like 1.4v

abstract kite
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I undervolt too much at 1.275

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I kept stock since it’s alright for now

regal laurel
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wow, and only top 21% of 3700x hit 4.15ghz at 1.262v, guess the 3800x is a decently higher bin

vapid crypt
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I recall that being an issue for someone using a 3600, where the voltages were around 1.4+ on the stock cooler. What a great auto setting phaWesker

abstract kite
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Oh hell yea it is lol

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If I had the money I would have gotten the 3800X

regal laurel
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what were the launch prices on those? iirc they're only like 20-30$ apart now

vapid crypt
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Yeah they're on sale now, really close in price. Which only tells me it'll be a bargain in like 6 months

abstract kite
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I got my 3700X as a placeholder for either a 4000 series or a 3950X.

When I purchased mine, a 3700 was about $320 while a 3800X was $380

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USD

warped hedge
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Huh

abstract kite
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HuH

warped hedge
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Huh

vapid crypt
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Hwat

warped hedge
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Why u need me

abstract kite
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Lets not start this again Fish

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Scroll up in chat

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reread

warped hedge
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Ughhh

abstract kite
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Do it

vapid crypt
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Keel him

warped hedge
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Ok

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So

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Yes

vapid crypt
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Yes what?

warped hedge
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Idk

vapid crypt
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Wow phaWesker

warped hedge
abstract kite
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ArE GeE bEe

jade ermine
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@abstract kite I got new amp to play with today

abstract kite
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@jade ermine šŸ‘€

jade ermine
regal laurel
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shouldn't you have the two top fans exhaust the hot air?

jade ermine
#

You will never know what it is

vapid crypt
#

Uh...

regal laurel
#

also, potentially you could swap the AIO to the top front fan spot (the upper spot of the two front fans)

#

that way it gets the initial cool air

vapid crypt
#

So the front and top fans are acting as intake, and the AIO is exhausting

regal laurel
#

not the heated up air from the gpu

vapid crypt
#

As far as I can tell

abstract kite
#

@jade ermine tell me

regal laurel
#

yeah seems like he's got 2 front intake 2 top intake and only 1 rear exhaust

jade ermine
#

@abstract kite muahahah never

vapid crypt
#

Unusual, but I mean it probably works. Could try something different

jade ermine
#

@abstract kitehttps://store.lars-ivan.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=61 yoinked one from forums out of curiosity

abstract kite
#

Lars-ivan okay

#

How do you like it?

#

It’s quite the penny there

jade ermine
#

Its hybrid tube amp

#

imagine lyr2 from schiit

#

sounds great and works fine so far

abstract kite
#

Nice nice

jade ermine
#

I think its one of those made in china wonders that got put on "fancy" brand name and heavy price tag. I paid 250 euros for it

warped hedge
#

I have positive air pressure that’s how you want it

abstract kite
#

Oh NICE

warped hedge
#

It’s fine

#

Plus my side panel is off 90% of the time

hard crag
#

Is that a AIO Cooler I see there ?

#

O.O

vapid crypt
#

Uh why?

warped hedge
#

Idk

#

Yes

jade ermine
hard crag
#

@vapid crypt Its old school

abstract kite
#

@jade ermine I cant handle this pls stop lol

hard crag
#

Back in the day you had the Side Panel off to show off the rig

jade ermine
#

might replace them for brand new ones so i get stress free years using this thing lol

#

okay okay

vapid crypt
#

Oldschool would be running a HAFX with the 200mm side fan PirateSimon

warped hedge
#

I have a clear side panel I’m just too lazy to put it on

hard crag
#

Now you have a side panel on to hide the cable management lmao

#

@warped hedge Hows that AIO you have?

regal laurel
#

not quite sure how having no side panel affects stuff tbh

abstract kite
#

@jade ermine For real though, congrats. It seems like a really good amp.

warped hedge
#

@hard crag good I just have a toasty CPU

regal laurel
#

if you had it on, imagining the air flow, you'd be channeling all air through that 120 radiator

hard crag
#

@regal laurel Honestly you have like a difference of like 2 degrees on the CPU temps

fleet canopy
#

Hm

vapid crypt
#

People would claim to get better temps like -5 with side panel off. But if that's the case you probably have bad airflow phaSip

hard crag
#

@warped hedge Which CPU ?

abstract kite
#

@hard crag He’s got a 3800X

warped hedge
#

A hot boy

hard crag
#

Nice. I got the 3700X

abstract kite
#

I need some opinions

#

^ Same fellow 3700X

hard crag
#

3700X is sooo nice

jade ermine
#

@abstract kite For the price it seems excellent. This powerbrick is the densest piece of shit ever tho. 3KG and its the size of two fists

abstract kite
#

I'm using a 7 year old corsair HX850 for my psu

#

and I recently upgraded my rig, new mobo, new cpu, new gpu

#

the power draw is well below 850w but during heavy loads my pc will occasionally shut off

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@jade ermine Use the dual fist powerbrick to dunk on some fools

hard crag
#

Im tryna make "Pete the Pansexual PC"

vapid crypt
#

Uh, yeah it might be dying then

abstract kite
#

Bet it’d make a good self defense weapon

#

but the functional LEDs (power button led, etc) will stay on, and the system won't restart until I unplug or turn off the PSU entirely

#

does that sound like the PSU is dying

hard crag
#

Just a Manjaro Distro and everything else being done in VMs

jade ermine
fleet canopy
#

No

jade ermine
#

most ridiculous thing

abstract kite
#

How hot does it get?

fleet canopy
#

If the PSU is dying

hard crag
#

Wait... is that a external PSU?

fleet canopy
#

Then you wouldn’t have been able to start it in the first place

warped hedge
#

ok im home now

abstract kite
#

tbh I don't think it's "dying" but I think it might be overheating... somehow

jade ermine
#

PSU does not warm up at all
Unit gets little war from the tube side, Probably around 45C?

abstract kite
#

@hard crag Power brick for amp

#

can PSUs even overheat

hard crag
#

oof

fleet canopy
#

Yes

vapid crypt
#

That's not necessarily true, if its overheating then maybe the fan is dead?

hard crag
#

@abstract kite When poorly maintained yes

fleet canopy
#

If you place the PSU like The Verge

abstract kite
#

@jade ermine Not too bad. Pushing a lot of high quality sound though it lol

#

also

jade ermine
abstract kite
#

my psu doesn't uh

#

have a fan

#

at all

hard crag
#

wut

fleet canopy
#

Uhh

#

You sure?

abstract kite
#

Did it have one initially?

vapid crypt
#

Oh a fanless model eh

fleet canopy
#

Check it

hard crag
#

šŸ¤”

fleet canopy
#

Oh there’s fanless

vapid crypt
#

I didn't know they made em back then

abstract kite
#

@fleet canopy yes

fleet canopy
hard crag
#

Sounds sketchy

fleet canopy
#

So how’s it gonna keep cool?

vapid crypt
#

Yeah its pretty high end psus

abstract kite
#

🤷

#

Usually a lot of heatsinks

#

Mash so you need a new PSU yea?

#

How much wattage?

hard crag
#

How does it transfer the heat out of the heatsinks tho ?

jade ermine
hard crag
#

You can have a lot of heatsinks but they only draw heat

abstract kite
#

I’m feeling faint

regal laurel
#

got a spare psu you could replace it with for testing?

abstract kite
#

Stahp 🤣

fleet canopy
#

Hm

abstract kite
#

I already ordered a corsair RM750x

fleet canopy
#

Bearz is getting some booty

abstract kite
#

@abstract kite Thats a good one

fleet canopy
#

Nice

abstract kite
#

but I just wanted second opinions on whether the PSU is the issue after all

#

I'm like 80% sure

#

It see-

God damn it those cats are back under my window

warped hedge
#

i REALLY need to upgrade my psu

vapid crypt
#

If its shutting off like that, it sounds like a power supply issue

abstract kite
#

^

warped hedge
#

i only havea 550W

vapid crypt
#

There was a dude a while back having an issue like that, and the problem was cause of an overheating power supply cause the fan was dead. Not saying its overheating

abstract kite
vapid crypt
#

But perhaps it is just dying

abstract kite
#

and no, there's no fan on the bottom

#

I didn't install it upside down

hard crag
#

@abstract kite Wanna see something painful?

abstract kite
#

@abstract kite YEP it’s overheating

#

Thats a fan model

regal laurel
#

but hx850s ought to have a fan?

warped hedge
#

@abstract kite is that motherboard the x570 TUF gaming

abstract kite
#

@hard crag sure sure

hard crag
#

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@abstract kite

abstract kite
#

yes

#

I've honestly

warped hedge
#

i have the same board

hard crag
#

I actually hate this shit

abstract kite
#

never heard or felt a fan on this psu

#

@hard crag I commend you for using hashcat tbh

hard crag
#

Well.. John takes too long

vapid crypt
#

At the very least the recent HX models use fans, I mean I can't speak for an old one

regal laurel
#

it probably has a zero rpm mode until it reaches a certain temperature or load anyways

hard crag
#

GPU > CPU

abstract kite
#

Waiting for RTX 3000 so I can have those mega hashes

hard crag
#

Though I need to throw my old 1050 in so I can use that as a dedicated cracker

abstract kite
#

and I do think it's temperature related because it used to do the shutdown thing when I was playing monhun but it stopped once I opened up the case

#

Well that makes me wonder

#

What CPU/CPU cooler and GPU you have

hard crag
#

@abstract kite Did I ever show you HTB ?

abstract kite
#

@hard crag I dont think so

#

ryzen 5 3600 w/ corsair h60, and rx5700xt red devil

#

Hmm

hard crag
abstract kite
#

Check your 5700XTs temps while in game

#

already did

#

And CPU?

regal laurel
#

that shouldn't even hit 50% of your psu then

hard crag
#

Cool little place to go practice your 31337 skillz uwu

abstract kite
#

cpu used to burn like hell

#

with stock cooler

warped hedge
abstract kite
#

but now that I installed a watercooler it stays at 70ish under load

vapid crypt
#

Yeah the auto voltages seem to be really high like 1.4

abstract kite
#

@hard crag Thank ya! I’m gonna crack away lol

#

similar temps on gpu

vapid crypt
#

I would try changing that even with the better cooling

abstract kite
#

at first I thought it was the cpu's issue because well

#

shit would hit 95 degrees in stresstests

hard crag
#

@abstract kite lmao its cool cos you need to hack the sign up code to register

abstract kite
#

lol

#

but the shutdowns continued after I upgraded the cooler

#

@hard crag šŸ˜

#

@abstract kite Still, you should check the CPU voltages with Ryzen Master

#

But I do think as well

#

Probably PSU related

#

If you have no fan on it

#

that’s a clear indication

#

its broke

#

I disabled the precision overdrive whatever thing in bios just in case

#

Did you enable global c-states?

#

I did not

regal laurel
#

those first gen hx850s dont have the monitoring connector yet right?

abstract kite
#

Do that

vapid crypt
abstract kite
#

It helps

#

@vapid crypt Unless the fan is broke

#

nah you saw my pic

#

The fan is facing downward

knotty haven
#

dies in Am4

#

BEARS

#

GET OU TOF ERE

#

EAT YOUR FOOD HOE

abstract kite
#

I’m WAITING FOR FOOD TO COOK

#

CHRIST

knotty haven
#

all psus have fans lol

fleet canopy
#

Yeah it’s upside down

knotty haven
#

that i can think of at least

abstract kite
#

Mash do you have a dust filter on the bottom of the case?

fleet canopy
#

It’s got o be

vapid crypt
#

There are fanless models

abstract kite
knotty haven
#

what is that

fleet canopy
#

From comparing the pic he sent and the one Domino sent it’s upside down

knotty haven
#

looks like a death cube

#

@abstract kite just order taco bell

#

ez

fleet canopy
#

The HX850 on the back is opposite

abstract kite
#

@abstract kite Check how dusty the filters are under the case

knotty haven
#

Wat tat mouf du

abstract kite
#

@knotty haven No I’m wanting this food I’m cooking

#

I just checked the bottom yesterday, no airflow and the dust filter was clean the last time I checked it

#

Can you show us a picture of the PSU from the bottom of the case?

#

Take the filter out before you take the pic

#

Also

#

Fractal design case eh?

knotty haven
#

no

abstract kite
#

Define S?

knotty haven
#

NZXT elite

#

dragoon

#

only a 400 dollar case

fleet canopy
#

En Zee Axe Tee Illeet

abstract kite
#

Youre wrong mayo

#

Its En Zed Exx Tee Elyeet

fading compass
#

I can feel my IQ increasing

abstract kite
#

I think it's a fractal R4

#

:3

knotty haven
#

En zee ex Tea

fleet canopy
#

Ill Yeet

fading compass
#

Also nice blue power supply

knotty haven
#

Eleet

fleet canopy
#

Hm

abstract kite
#

original build was 7 years ago

#

@abstract kite I use fractal cases too.
Up top šŸ‘

fading compass
#

If your game is crashing it’s probably not the power supply.

abstract kite
#

and checked bottom, the fan was there after all

#

lmao

hard crag
#

Can anyone here recommend a cheap Full Tower Case ?

fading compass
#

How cheap thinkering

fleet canopy
#

I knew it hahah

abstract kite
#

I'll run a stresstest and see if that thing spins up

warped hedge
#

cougar 330G

hard crag
#

Preferrable one with HDD racks

vapid crypt
#

Full Tower?

fleet canopy
#

You did the Verge

abstract kite
#

@abstract kite Yea it’s creating its own ecosystem by being on the bottom.

fleet canopy
#

Haha god damn

vapid crypt
#

Uh find a used HAF X? phaWesker

abstract kite
#

the funny thing is that it's actually never caused any problems in like

hard crag
#

I can spend like £80

abstract kite
#

the 7 years I've used it

#

The fan is drawing air through the filter and not being affected by the case

#

and I've used it on carpet a lot too

#

Thats an issue

#

Carpet will choke

#

Harder than darth vader

#

just cleaned out the filter every once in a while

fading compass
#

Still think it’s a throttling issue for you akkoShrug

fleet canopy
#

Put PSU downside up

abstract kite
#

Put it on some plywood or plastic if you keep it on the floor

fleet canopy
#

Face no problems for life

knotty haven
#

or

#

be a chad

#

dont be broke

#

get a desk

fleet canopy
#

First

#

You need a desk

hard crag
#

kek

abstract kite
#

Great advise orange

#

/s

knotty haven
#

no

#

The verge

hard crag
#

Desk all day

knotty haven
#

: make sure you have a desk

abstract kite
#

Foods cookin up now

#

brb

fleet canopy
#

But yeah do are flip PSU

knotty haven
#

@fleet canopy

hard crag
#

Top mounted or Bottom PSU? Which do you prefer?

knotty haven
#

i got a vid for you

abstract kite
#

gonna do the flippy boi

fleet canopy
#

Top or bottom mounted

knotty haven
fleet canopy
#

Never heard of a top mounted PSU

abstract kite
#

I'll swap out to the rx750x when it arrives though

knotty haven
#

watc

fading compass
#

Same

hard crag
#

@fleet canopy As in mounted at the top of the Case

knotty haven
#

Top mounted existed

fading compass
#

Some cases don’t have space for a bottom psu

fleet canopy
#

Uhh

knotty haven
#

very litle

abstract kite
#

top mounted is actually more common isn't it

fleet canopy
#

Yeah honestly I’ve never seen that

vapid crypt
#

Not now a days

fading compass
#

Not really

abstract kite
#

in cases designed for custom design the psu usually goes on bottom but in like

fleet canopy
#

Never heard of top mounted either

knotty haven
#

its rare

vapid crypt
#

Maybe in the OEM markets

fading compass
#

Bottom power supplies are almost on all cases

knotty haven
#

not for gaming

abstract kite
#

prefabs and workstations

knotty haven
#

^

abstract kite
#

I feel like psu is usually up top

fading compass
#

With the exception of like ITX sometimes

hard crag
#

Honestly I would prefer Top Mounted just because of Cable Management

knotty haven
#

gaming well never have top mounted

fleet canopy
#

Nah, almost always down

abstract kite
#

yeah I've never seen a gaming ca-

#

wait no

fleet canopy
#

Or in literal sense

knotty haven
#

or

fleet canopy
#

Bottom side

abstract kite
#

my budget-rig-that-turned-out-to-be-not-so-budget has a top psu

#

lmao

knotty haven
#

Custom built case

fleet canopy
#

ā€œgaming caseā€

hard crag
#

@knotty haven You never seen a Linus tech tips build?

fleet canopy
#

Hm

knotty haven
#

@hard crag i have

#

he has money up the ass

hard crag
#

I know lol

fleet canopy
#

Drop everything

knotty haven
#

jay 2 cents builds em better tho

fleet canopy
#

Linus Tech Tips

hard crag
#

but he has plenty of builds were the PSU is mounted at the top

knotty haven
#

no monie

abstract kite
#

hmmmm

knotty haven
#

yuh

abstract kite
#

I don't want to unplug everything while I flip the psu

fading compass
#

Interesting thinkering

knotty haven
#

lol im surpized

fleet canopy
#

I’ve never really seen ANY PSU top mounted

knotty haven
#

he hasnt droped a PC yet

hard crag
#

lmao

abstract kite
#

I'll be upgrading the psu in a couple days anyways

#

I'll just flip it with everything connected

fleet canopy
#

Uhh

hard crag
#

I only want top mount to help with Cable Management

abstract kite
fleet canopy
#

Yeah that’s fine

knotty haven
#

just get a fully modular PSU

fading compass
#

Is it fine xtreemjoy

hard crag
#

I have one

fleet canopy
#

God damn discord lag

abstract kite
#

yeah the one I've ordered is fully modular

hard crag
#

But my case is.. awkward

abstract kite
#

this one isn't though

fading compass
#

HX is semi

fleet canopy
#

Don’t have fully modular either

abstract kite
#

tfw this psu is the "higher grade" one but it's 7 years old

knotty haven
#

lame

hard crag
#

Just saying Mid-Tower cases are ass

fading compass
#

Tbh there’s really no difference between semi and fully modular for cable management xtreemjoy

fleet canopy
#

Pretty great PSU though I gotta say

fading compass
#

Still need to plug in the required cables

abstract kite
#

aren't newer hx psus fully modular

fading compass
#

Yes

abstract kite
#

mine's pretty old

fading compass
#

Old HX is meh in today’s standard though

abstract kite
#

yeah

hard crag
#

Anyone here made the swap to M.2 then ?

abstract kite
#

my old rig was top tier back in its day

#

I bought a samsung evo 970 with the upgrade

#

f a s t

knotty haven
#

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knotty haven
#

heh

hard crag
#

Why..

#

just why

fading compass
#

Corsair forgot to put a protection in it and it has an older design akkoShrug

knotty haven
#

Cloged up chat

abstract kite
#

space

fleet canopy
#

Commit no

abstract kite
#

it's smol

hard crag
#

orange you're such a dick

fleet canopy
#

Yes

knotty haven
#

what why

fleet canopy
#

Don’t have an M.2 yet though

hard crag
#

use dumb commands smh

knotty haven
#

heh

#

its okaty i dont got a m.2 either

#

SSD

hard crag
#

@fleet canopy its like £100 for a 1TB m.2

fading compass
#

I’m fine with my Sata

median moon
#

m.2s are cool

fleet canopy
#

Nah I’m getting 250GB for NVME speed

knotty haven
#

for you

hard crag
#

I wanna make the move just for space in my case

knotty haven
#

in murica

fleet canopy
#

Need wondows fast

fading compass
#

My 1 second faster boot times

knotty haven
#

its 300

hard crag
#

M.2 just saves space

#

and means I can have more drives

fleet canopy
#

Eh

fading compass
#

For some motherboards it takes up 2 Sata ports

fleet canopy
#

Unless you don’t mind taking up PCIe lanes ofc

fading compass
#

So your technically wrong xtreemjoy

hard crag
#

I have like 3/4 TB of memory kek

fading compass
#

2.5 TB Gang

fleet canopy
#

PCIe SSD is like 100$ for 250GB lol

fading compass
#

Pcie gen 4 is stupid lmao

#

99% of people don’t need that

#

They have an rgb one tho thinkyOMEGA

hard crag
#

@fading compass The amount of databreaches I have though take up a whole TB on their own tho

fleet canopy
#

I’ve honestly not heard of them until like last week when my eyes laid on it in PCPP

fading compass
#

Don’t know what data breaches mean but it sounds cool

vapid crypt
#

That new cache out thing?

fleet canopy
#

It looks like a sound card tbh

hard crag
#

Basically you know when a big site gets hacked?

#

The data is made public sometimes

vapid crypt
#

Oh I see

fading compass
#

Pcie gen 4 is like faster than nvme but at a stupid price. And it’s basically only available on the x570 motherboards.

hard crag
#

Its just handy for OSINT stuffs

#

does anything even use PCIE 4 atm ?

fading compass
#

SSDs

fleet canopy
#

Eh

fading compass
#

Gpus don’t use up that much bandwidth yet

fleet canopy
#

Yeah, takes up less lanes

#

Or whatever.

fading compass
#

Ofc you’ll have AMD say their 5700XT aid optimized for pcie gen 4 xtreemjoy

knotty haven
#

custom case

#

making

fleet canopy
#

Forgot what it was supposed to be even

hard crag
#

lmao didnt some 5700XTs release without a fireware update to fix the performance issues?

fading compass
#

Yeah

#

Driver issues

fleet canopy
#

5700XT is good if you want to not be able to play some games atm

vapid crypt
#

With or without

hard crag
#

I think ill stick with Nvidia atm for GPUs

fleet canopy
#

Yeah, NVIDIA is going well off

fading compass
#

I’ve heard from some people AMDs newest driver just fucks the XT up

#

Not entirely sure tho

fleet canopy
#

Yeah, can confirm

#

Another discord user

knotty haven
#

it fucked my os

#

lol

vapid crypt
#

What, Windows?

fading compass
#

AMD and their driver issues is quite a duo

vapid crypt
#

Cause that's normal

knotty haven
#

yea

vapid crypt
#

Windows is shit

knotty haven
#

few months back

fading compass
#

They pulled that shit with the Vega line smh

fleet canopy
#

At least the CPU ain’t fucky

knotty haven
#

Your shit

#

loser.

fading compass
vapid crypt
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Is your name Windows?

knotty haven
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no you need a i8 9990k

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No but it can be

vapid crypt
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Okay? ConfusedUlf

remote horizon
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@fleet canopy yeah there are a few games that just refuse to work, but luckily not a huge issue for me

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(about the 5700xt)

fleet canopy
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Huge issue if you like playing the games it can’t run

vapid crypt
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What games is it? And I don't think its exclusive to the new cards, cause I had issues launching Nioh with the new drivers; but that's been fixed with that previous update

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Game runs fine now

remote horizon
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From my experience, just a few visual novels on steam

vapid crypt
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Oh like uh Zero Escape or something

remote horizon
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Haven't tried that, but I hope not. I wanted to play it. My Steins;Gate and anything by that same publisher won't work

vapid crypt
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I see, yeah they gotta fix those problems. If you wanted to experiment its likely pre 2020 drivers might work, but in my experience with Nioh, that actually caused instability with the game for whatever reason even if it did launch

remote horizon
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This was before 2020 though lol

fleet canopy
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Yeah

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About too many games couldn’t be played

vapid crypt
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I'm referring to the name of the driver suite which is Adrenaline 2020

remote horizon
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I knew what you meant

knotty haven
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@fleet canopy get in the bed

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im getting the belt

remote horizon
vapid crypt
warped hedge
fleet canopy
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No

warped hedge
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yes

fleet canopy
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I was talking to orange

warped hedge
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yes

fading compass
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Fetch the memes

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Duck

warped hedge
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ITSW A GOOSE

fleet canopy
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And that’s the new Duck thing from Reddit, yeah?

vapid crypt
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Honk

fleet canopy
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Goose*

warped hedge
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yes muppy

fading compass
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Same thing

abstract kite
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also

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do anyone here use foot pedals for voip

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I've been wrestling with this scythe foot pedal for the last week or so

warped hedge
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no i use it for my sim

abstract kite
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so I bought a pedal from them like a long time ago

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which worked fine

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I liked it a lot so I bought another for another rig

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but this configuration software has been

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a nightmare

vapid crypt
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I didn't know Scythe made foot pedals, know them for their cpu coolers

abstract kite
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they do and the hardware is actually really good

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but first off

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the software on their website listed as "most current" is outdated

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it won't work

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they send you a cd and you have to use the software that's on that

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had to go out of my way to find a computer with a cd/rom drive

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and the button used to/is supposed to emulate a keypress

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you press the pedal, the computer thinks you're pressing a key; you let go of the pedal, the computer thinks you've let go of the key

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but the new configuration software makes it so that it sends a single "keypress" signal

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as in, instantly press and let go

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so I can't use it for the intended purpose of voip button now

fleet canopy
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F

abstract kite
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this is actually driving me crazy because the pedal is fairly pricy for what it is (nearly 30 bucks) and the pedal itself is really good

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but like

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I can't make it do what I need it to do

abstract kite
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lmao what the fuck

mint basalt
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Why is that here

fleet canopy
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Hm

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Thanks to discord crashing 3x, I couldn’t see it goddamnit

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Thanks Discord, very cool

dusty pumice
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Oh so you want to see it before reporting i see how it is mayo

fleet canopy
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It crashed before I even saw what it was

abstract kite
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It was some dude replying to bots

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I found it funny

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Wish he didn't delete it

fleet canopy
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Kek

dusty pumice
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Well it had racist slurs in it so yeah theres that

abstract kite
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Didn't notice that part

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I did see the word roblox though

fleet canopy
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Roblox, cool

dusty pumice
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Well those two combined usually have the same outcome

vapid crypt
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Cancer?

dusty pumice
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Something like that?

abstract kite
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also

vapid crypt
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Canceraids PirateSimon

abstract kite
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computer just did the shutdown thing again, this time with the psu flipped the right side up

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the fan is working

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this time there was no significant power draw, I was just watching youtube while having a VM run in the background

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wonder what caused that one

median moon
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after a month of prep i'm now ready to buy parts next week šŸ‘€

vapid crypt
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Either the psu is failing, which is likely with an older unit. Or something is tripping one of the protections of the power supply

dusty pumice
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Nice goodluck on the built glass = )

abstract kite
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it didn't happen with my old parts

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but started happening when I switched to new mobo, cpu, gpu and ram

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the power draw of my old parts should be higher though

fleet canopy
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Yeah uhh

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That’s the TDP, not actual draw

vapid crypt
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What did you upgrade from and what do you have now?

fleet canopy
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There’s a difference to those if you don’t know

abstract kite
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4770k and gtx780

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to ryzen 3600 and rx5700xt

fleet canopy
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You need new PSU yes

abstract kite
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I mean

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I already have a new psu on the way

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I just want to pinpoint the cause of the problem

fleet canopy
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It’s gotta be dying and not as effective as current PSUs now I guess

abstract kite
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smh

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wonder if it was a coincidence that it started happening right around when I switched out the parts

vapid crypt
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It could be coincidence, or it could be a different issue entirely

fleet canopy
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There’s still a difference on draw and TDP