#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk
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XD
We've already had the memes channel ascend
We don't need the tech channel being removed either
jfc
Doesnt General chat exist for these kind of conversations?
RIP memes channel, you will be missed
Lmfao didnt even know that shit existed
We get to meme in there 
It's rarely used groundus
^
Last activity was nearly 12 hours ago
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Oh LOL
Hi quick question
the game seems to have a lot of innate film grain which i cant really seem to find any options for
is it not possible to turn this off?
Its kinda annoying having TV static inside every shadow im not myself inside
So that is a bug, its not actually film grain from what I understand
Apparently its the result of the game trying to render shadows of dust particles? At least if I recall correctly
Does a Case Fan always blow into the direction of the grille side?
From what I remember from the alpha, it's some sort of ray traced lightning effect running with very few samples, with more samples near the middle of the screen. But it could also be a noise filter. This is speculation; I haven't actually poked the shaders
Are you referring to the grille of the case? Cause that doesn't make a difference, its generally apparent which way a fan blows by looking at it
It's a good rule of thumb, but I wouldn't trust it 100%. Haven't seen a fan that's not like that.
first pic would blow air up
So the first image is the rear of the fan, it blows in that direction yes
Thanks š
The Crucial P1 is a little more prone to slowdowns, but good savings. Both options faster and cheaper than what the original list had though.
@vapid crypt IIRC the "film grain" is due to how GTFO handles lighting
It's not something you can disable
it won't be slow by any means. Just not as fast as you could've gotten ^^
hmm
I'd say definitely the SSD is a bit of a ~~ since there are nvme 1tb ssds that are not just a lot faster but also cheaper than the 860
msi mech oc is not too bad, but the sapphire pulse cooler is better afaik, depends on local pricing tho
could've gotten a cheaper set of maybe 3200mhz ram and overclocked to 3600 instead, but depends if u wanna deal with ram oc
not sure about the perf of that darkrock but I think someone just had a built with a sycthe cooler for 60$ that probably performs better
3200 CL16 are bottom of the barrel stuff usually. Wouldn't expect
reasonable overclocks out of those. On a board like that too.
and idk whether u needed to spend 145$ on the psu
you'd have to spend some time searching for a potentially good kit yeah
there's quite probably like a 80+ plat for that price
Ok but
yeah, there are platinum rated ones for lower, not 750w ofc, but that system wcould never pull 750
yeah, no worries, u just could've saved a few bucks here or there
quality of the components is nice
A bit strange to ask for opinions immediately after buying it, but yeah it should be all good.
Yeye ik
You guys all made that cart about 2 weeks ago
After a long debate
Its for my brother
He woke up this morning and was like "aight screw it lets buy it all"
@regal laurel @merry bay
I put @rancid kindleās build together, and Iāll explain why I chose certain parts. Please keep in mind that I chose all of these with three things in mind:
Longevity, upgradability/futureproofing, and the given budget.
I chose the 1TB QVO because using an M.2 SSD prevents all of the SATA ports from being utilized on the Tomohawk Max.
The QVO is one of the cheaper SSDs while still being one of the most reliable. Itās faster than some, but yes, it isnāt the fastest.
If an M.2 was used, later storage upgradability would be hindered.
The B450 Tomohawk Max can only support ram up to 3866mhz. 3600Mhz is a decent sweet spot and is OC beginner friendly since all you need to do is just enable XMP. G.Skill uses Hynix die iirc, so itās a good set.
I chose the MSI 5700 because of the $20 rebate you can currently get. The Mech cooler is perfectly sufficient for a 5700, but may be a different story for the 5700XT.
Iāll admit a 750W PSU is a bit overkill. However, having that capacity saves you from future costs when you upgrade CPU and GPU. Corsair has a 10 year warranty on PSUs, and has hired JonnyGuru (Jon Gerow) as their Director PSU R&D. Corsair PSUs have been extremely reliable since he joined the team, so it should last years.
Hope that explains a few of the choices

Perfect! Bro i can't thank you all enough. This channel has been my go to channel rn for a lot of computer stuff and I've always come out knowing more
Feel free to ask any question you have. Iām sure someone here could answer them. š
Hm
doesn't using the m.2 slot only disable the two additional sata ports in the bottom right corner, the upwards-facing ones?
and having it disable all 6 sounds terrible, i'd have probably gone with a different motherboard then
I meant that maybe getting a cheaper 3000-3200mhz kit and overclocking it to 3600 or whereever his FCLK maxxes out would work to save a few bucks, not recommended if no interest in manual ram oc'ing
And yeah, should just get the cheapest, good cooler version of any gpu. I didnt look into prices for these specific models, just pointed out that f.e. the pulse would be better
I don't really agree on the psu being "future proof" or what you're trying to say. Unless they're certain they want to upgrade to a super high core count cpu or a dual gpu setup, there's really no need to get over 550w
I'd never tell anyone to not buy a high quality powersupply, like corsair makes, but there's also a balance for price to performance
idk whether I'd go for a 145$ gold psu if there's the seasonic 650w platinum for like 125$?
coming from someone with a RM1000 btw :p
Kore is not wrong, but I also would have gone for the bigger Watt PSU
something about efficiency curves , yeah idk, maybe the corsair will have 0rpm fan more often or so
wouldn't rly judge a psu on how its gonna be going in 10 years tho
I have around 12-13 psu's lying around and I am impressed that all of them work. 2 are older than 10 years by now.
Had only one PSU that died which was a Corsair AX860 which I think was also one if not the most expensive one lol
Thermaltake Toughpower 800 W and Tagan 480 Watt are my oldest gems haha (not naming the unbranded ones)
Its a pretty good value GPU especially if you want to tinker a bit and flash an XT Bios onto one
Speaking of which though, I just heard that AMD will be announcing their next generation of GPUs on March 5th
Sounds hot
Probably literally considering it's AMD @abstract kite

||I use a Vega 64, reference model, I'd know||
That's a hell of a cooler even if the card does run hot as shit 
Honestly, I just want raytracing
AMID EVIL beckons me to replay it with that feature on
I didn't know Amid Evil had that feature
It got patched in
Boomer shooters all have raytracing nowadays it seem
Q2
Amid Evil
Q2
Amid evil
The list goes on

I'll cross my fingers for Dusk then 
That'd be cool
Which actually I still need to play
Do it
I got it months ago
It's a great game
Every episode is better than the previous one
Which is rare for a boomer shooter
Yeah I should pick up Dusk as well
@regal laurel āThe motherboard M.2 slot #1 shares bandwidth with SATA 6.0 Gb/s ports. When the M.2 slot is populated, two SATA 6.0 Gb/s ports are disabledā.
This issue isnāt across all B450s, but the Tomohawk Max is one that has it. However, it is one of the best boards you can get as a budget B450 option.
Overclocking 3000-3200mhz ram is a thing that could be done, yes. But as I said, for beginners it would be wiser imo to get 3600mhz ram and enable XMP. Itās the safest way to go while sill having good results. I wouldnāt recommend tweaking voltages and timings to everyone. lol
You answered another reason for having a high wattage PSU yourself. Aside from future proofing (e.g. 3600 - 3800X/3900X, 5700 - 2070S/2080S), efficiency curve is another factor I had in mind. Less stress on the PSU means it can be more efficient.
@brisk badger How old was that AX860? Jon Gerow started working for Corsair around 2017-2018 to my knowledge. Corsair PSUs prior to that werenāt optimal imho.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/218880571504328704/670072446581211137/CJMDrnZ.jpg Not mine but just wanna say
That's hot.
Oh sweet, attachments are not working
I should get a velkcase with some custom panels.
Thats a sick build Jog!
Not mine, but this is also a beautiful build.
Man I love SFFpcs
so smoll!
@abstract kite thats actually amazin!
Stole it from PCPP, nice
I personally have a ghost s1 sff build, was really fun to research everything to make sure it all fit
Man, one of these days, I'm going to build a mini itx build
I know I already intend that for my next one
When I graduate college 3 years from now
Trying to get one right now
Velka case 5
this was stolen from PCPP btw

any comments?
the fucking reverse bowsette on the wall
Bowsette is a dead joke
Yes?
That was it 
We can't say anything negative
Very nice comment
But we can't say anything outstanding
I won't call that outstanding more so excited?
Kek
i need to find some cursed battlestations 
"not our finest bruh moment."
- the spy

I love that first image
oh those hurt me
invade
I'm very proud of this
I'm getting there
Nearly at 100wpm
must get faster and not make mistakes
That's about as fast as I've gotten pretty much
What website?
It's keyhero muppy
40 words per second?
I'll be practicing more tomorrow
Yes
Your keyboard does have a play in it though
My Cherry MX Browns are good at typing fast
BUT
They are kind of scratchy
and I can't open up my K95 to lube them
So they catch at certain point and rub which is nasty feeling
I use Outemu blues 
Some kind of Chinese OEM thing 
I guess to be more specific the back panel says its an Easterntimes Tech I-500, but when I got it off Amazon it was advertised under a different brand and even has a different logo on the front so 
Ahh thats fair
Outemu's aren't bad switches though
Cherry clones can be really good
Funny story, I got this keyboard like almost two years ago now. And the reason I did was cause I spilled coffee on my laptop and ruined the function of the T key so I had that for a while 
my dream build right now for a keyboard is a tofu60 with either novelkey creams or gateron yellow inks and GMK keycaps.
the unfortunate thing is that that combo would cost upwards of 250+
Still if its been reliable thats great to hear
So I'm going to be content with getting a ducky mecha mini
don't know if I want to get another set of browns or if I'll try red switches
I was thinking of trying out brown switches, aren't they like a lighter blue switch or something
Blue switches have a click jacket making the distinct "click
Browns don't have a click jacket, but instead they have a small bump on the switch to indicate when the circuit has been completed
for the keystroke
Oh so its not only lighter but quieter
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lol typing tests
I think I used to be able to get 140 on a good day back in high school with a good membrane keyboard
that was good practice though
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Delidding gone wrong ? š
Wouldn't surprise me if it's two-component glued to the heatsink
only noticable complaint would be different monitors, would make it look even better :p
(.. if the monitors were the same/same size atleast)
ive been thinking of adding a second monitor to my setup but i dont think id use it enough
I like it @heavy cloud!
Only suggestion I gave is getting a boom arm for your snowball
Makes a world of difference when it comes to background noise
@abstract kite ill look into that, i never even thought about that haha
@lilac oar yeah, one is a 1440p and the other is my old 1080p they are both 27 inches i just have the main one elevated and angled differently
nice ill get one
That looks like a sexy website
Do it
pulling the trigger next week š
Disclaimer: "Pulling the trigger" = buying PC parts, this is not a suicide note
Better graphics /s
i remember when HDR was new fancy technology
and ghost recon wildlands would be the first game with it
now HDR is like "yeah ya get betta lights anytin else toots"
console ting
bro building a PC is making me feel old as hell
i watched an AVGN video today and he was like "but today, new technology like the Wii and the DS touch screen are around"
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What
it was from 08
The Wii was kind of ahead of its time
The first kind of VR without the headset
Smack the ball
And get your ass clapped by Matt
yeah but the point there is that the Wii, despite being so far ahead, is now like
basically nothing
it's only been a decade and we're already harnessing quantum physics for better CSGO frames
Played the Mickey game where you use a paint brush to attack enemies and fix shit
Was so fun
epic mickey
Now itās some game where you have to stay alive while hoping you donāt die
Yes, Epic Mickey was fucking great
skylanders bruh
i have like 6 of them and a Kaos trap but that's it
We still have more to explore in gaming though
Soon enough, itād be a small room or advanced tracking thatāll copy your exact movements
Pure fitness I bet
can someone help me upgrade my toaster
i hate that amd is so toasty
just use your car engine cooling on it
What are you cooling?
3800x
I see what temps are you getting?
yeah
Well see that's like absolute peak power use, like obviously that doesn't really compare to typical loads. Like what kind of temps do you get in a game
I would guess less than 60c
how about clocks and which watercooler
4.2ghz on a EVGA 120MM watercooler
oof
witch is stock
120mm yeah that's not really much better than air cooling
I see, well 120s are a bit ~~~ for these cpus
its better than the stock cooler
Aren't those priced pretty similar to a nice air cooler?
the top of the line aircoolers like nh-d15 cool about as much as a decent 240
yeah that's the thing
Like I think you could get a Fuma 2 for about as much as a 120 rad
evga clc 120 ?
yes
Oh I see, I mean if you want better temps you could try undervolting. I heard undervolting sometimes improved performance
Might be thinking of the GPUs actually
i have a corsair 240mm rad but they told me to fuck off for am4 bracket
those have such a cool looking block and fans dude... expensive tho
i got the EVGA cooler on prime day on amazon for 20$ like a year ago
Well that's a bargain, I got a gammaxx 400 for that much 
but either way max 80c in what? prime95 u said? fine i'd say
check what voltage it's running at that point
yeah prime95
we pulling 105W max on this UNIT of a chip
how'd u know that? š®
ryzen master
I see, so it also limits it to 105w by lowering the clocks
Aida64 is actually heavier than prime95 on these chips
@warped hedge Stututututututu
I remember clock speeds being an issue around release where people weren't seeing expected boost clocks. Technically the boost clock is more of a marketing gimmick where its like "Yeah this'll reach 4.5, but only on one core and for like a few seconds or something." Apparently they improved things through BIOS updates, so I would look into that maybe 
I could make my 3700X a 3800X if I boosted the wattage lol
there's a video showing 3700x aida64 stress test 10min 89w
85c on wraith prism
71c on 360 aio ?
Yea thats pretty normal
On my 3700X I get around 75-77C in AIDA64 in a room of about 23C
Limited to stock 65W though
Iām not going to boost this chip all the way it can go for now
what does it downclock to to get that 65w?
Apparently so
I'm pretty sure the 3800x is overvolted which is why its higher
Surprisingly enough
I push more voltage than his chip
I lost the silicon lottery though
So I need it to reach those clocks lol
100% of 3800Xs should be able to hit 4.20ghz at 1.275v btw
if stroker is still around
should maybe check whether it's auto volting around that or more like 1.4v
wow, and only top 21% of 3700x hit 4.15ghz at 1.262v, guess the 3800x is a decently higher bin
I recall that being an issue for someone using a 3600, where the voltages were around 1.4+ on the stock cooler. What a great auto setting 
what were the launch prices on those? iirc they're only like 20-30$ apart now
Yeah they're on sale now, really close in price. Which only tells me it'll be a bargain in like 6 months
I got my 3700X as a placeholder for either a 4000 series or a 3950X.
When I purchased mine, a 3700 was about $320 while a 3800X was $380
USD
Huh
HuH
Huh
Hwat
Why u need me
Ughhh
Do it
Keel him
Yes what?
Idk
Wow 
I still like this
ArE GeE bEe
@abstract kite I got new amp to play with today
@jade ermine š
shouldn't you have the two top fans exhaust the hot air?
You will never know what it is
Uh...
also, potentially you could swap the AIO to the top front fan spot (the upper spot of the two front fans)
that way it gets the initial cool air
So the front and top fans are acting as intake, and the AIO is exhausting
not the heated up air from the gpu
As far as I can tell
@jade ermine tell me
yeah seems like he's got 2 front intake 2 top intake and only 1 rear exhaust
@abstract kite muahahah never
Unusual, but I mean it probably works. Could try something different
@abstract kitehttps://store.lars-ivan.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=61 yoinked one from forums out of curiosity
Nice nice
I think its one of those made in china wonders that got put on "fancy" brand name and heavy price tag. I paid 250 euros for it
I have positive air pressure thatās how you want it
Oh NICE
Uh why?
has two 12AX7 tubes in there
@vapid crypt Its old school
@jade ermine I cant handle this pls stop lol
Back in the day you had the Side Panel off to show off the rig
might replace them for brand new ones so i get stress free years using this thing lol
okay okay
Oldschool would be running a HAFX with the 200mm side fan 
I have a clear side panel Iām just too lazy to put it on
Now you have a side panel on to hide the cable management lmao
@warped hedge Hows that AIO you have?
not quite sure how having no side panel affects stuff tbh
@jade ermine For real though, congrats. It seems like a really good amp.
@hard crag good I just have a toasty CPU
if you had it on, imagining the air flow, you'd be channeling all air through that 120 radiator
@regal laurel Honestly you have like a difference of like 2 degrees on the CPU temps
Hm
People would claim to get better temps like -5 with side panel off. But if that's the case you probably have bad airflow 
@warped hedge Which CPU ?
@hard crag Heās got a 3800X
A hot boy
Nice. I got the 3700X
3700X is sooo nice
@abstract kite For the price it seems excellent. This powerbrick is the densest piece of shit ever tho. 3KG and its the size of two fists
I'm using a 7 year old corsair HX850 for my psu
and I recently upgraded my rig, new mobo, new cpu, new gpu
the power draw is well below 850w but during heavy loads my pc will occasionally shut off
@jade ermine Use the dual fist powerbrick to dunk on some fools
Im tryna make "Pete the Pansexual PC"
Uh, yeah it might be dying then
Bet itād make a good self defense weapon
but the functional LEDs (power button led, etc) will stay on, and the system won't restart until I unplug or turn off the PSU entirely
does that sound like the PSU is dying
Just a Manjaro Distro and everything else being done in VMs
3KG
No
most ridiculous thing
How hot does it get?
If the PSU is dying
Wait... is that a external PSU?
Then you wouldnāt have been able to start it in the first place
ok im home now
tbh I don't think it's "dying" but I think it might be overheating... somehow
PSU does not warm up at all
Unit gets little war from the tube side, Probably around 45C?
oof
Yes
That's not necessarily true, if its overheating then maybe the fan is dead?
@abstract kite When poorly maintained yes
If you place the PSU like The Verge

wut
Did it have one initially?
Oh a fanless model eh
Check it
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Oh thereās fanless
I didn't know they made em back then
@fleet canopy yes

Sounds sketchy
So howās it gonna keep cool?
Yeah its pretty high end psus
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Usually a lot of heatsinks
Mash so you need a new PSU yea?
How much wattage?
How does it transfer the heat out of the heatsinks tho ?
one booty pic for @abstract kite and im done
You can have a lot of heatsinks but they only draw heat
Iām feeling faint
got a spare psu you could replace it with for testing?
Stahp š¤£
Hm
I already ordered a corsair RM750x
Bearz is getting some booty
@abstract kite Thats a good one
Nice
but I just wanted second opinions on whether the PSU is the issue after all
I'm like 80% sure
It see-
God damn it those cats are back under my window
i REALLY need to upgrade my psu
If its shutting off like that, it sounds like a power supply issue
^
i only havea 550W
There was a dude a while back having an issue like that, and the problem was cause of an overheating power supply cause the fan was dead. Not saying its overheating
But perhaps it is just dying
@abstract kite Wanna see something painful?
but hx850s ought to have a fan?
@abstract kite is that motherboard the x570 TUF gaming
@hard crag sure sure
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@abstract kite
i have the same board
I actually hate this shit
never heard or felt a fan on this psu
@hard crag I commend you for using hashcat tbh
Well.. John takes too long
At the very least the recent HX models use fans, I mean I can't speak for an old one
it probably has a zero rpm mode until it reaches a certain temperature or load anyways
GPU > CPU
Though I need to throw my old 1050 in so I can use that as a dedicated cracker
and I do think it's temperature related because it used to do the shutdown thing when I was playing monhun but it stopped once I opened up the case
Well that makes me wonder
What CPU/CPU cooler and GPU you have
@abstract kite Did I ever show you HTB ?
@hard crag I dont think so
ryzen 5 3600 w/ corsair h60, and rx5700xt red devil
Hmm
https://hackthebox.eu/ @abstract kite
that shouldn't even hit 50% of your psu then
Cool little place to go practice your 31337 skillz uwu
but now that I installed a watercooler it stays at 70ish under load
Yeah the auto voltages seem to be really high like 1.4
I would try changing that even with the better cooling
at first I thought it was the cpu's issue because well
shit would hit 95 degrees in stresstests
@abstract kite lmao its cool cos you need to hack the sign up code to register
lol
but the shutdowns continued after I upgraded the cooler
@hard crag š
@abstract kite Still, you should check the CPU voltages with Ryzen Master
But I do think as well
Probably PSU related
If you have no fan on it
thatās a clear indication
its broke
I disabled the precision overdrive whatever thing in bios just in case
Did you enable global c-states?
I did not
those first gen hx850s dont have the monitoring connector yet right?
Do that
So I found the exact model, and it does have a fan from what I can see here
It helps
@vapid crypt Unless the fan is broke
nah you saw my pic
The fan is facing downward
all psus have fans lol
Yeah itās upside down
that i can think of at least
Mash do you have a dust filter on the bottom of the case?
Itās got o be
There are fanless models
what is that
From comparing the pic he sent and the one Domino sent itās upside down
The HX850 on the back is opposite
@abstract kite Check how dusty the filters are under the case
Wat tat mouf du
@knotty haven No Iām wanting this food Iām cooking
I just checked the bottom yesterday, no airflow and the dust filter was clean the last time I checked it
Can you show us a picture of the PSU from the bottom of the case?
Take the filter out before you take the pic
Also
Fractal design case eh?
no
Define S?
En Zee Axe Tee Illeet
I can feel my IQ increasing
En zee ex Tea
Ill Yeet
Also nice blue power supply
Eleet
Hm
original build was 7 years ago
@abstract kite I use fractal cases too.
Up top š
If your game is crashing itās probably not the power supply.
Can anyone here recommend a cheap Full Tower Case ?
How cheap 
I knew it hahah
I'll run a stresstest and see if that thing spins up
cougar 330G
Preferrable one with HDD racks
Full Tower?
You did the Verge
@abstract kite Yea itās creating its own ecosystem by being on the bottom.
Haha god damn
Uh find a used HAF X? 
the funny thing is that it's actually never caused any problems in like
I can spend like £80
the 7 years I've used it
The fan is drawing air through the filter and not being affected by the case
and I've used it on carpet a lot too
Thats an issue
Carpet will choke
Harder than darth vader
just cleaned out the filter every once in a while
Still think itās a throttling issue for you 
Put PSU downside up
Put it on some plywood or plastic if you keep it on the floor
Face no problems for life
kek
Desk all day
: make sure you have a desk
But yeah do are flip PSU
@fleet canopy
Top mounted or Bottom PSU? Which do you prefer?
i got a vid for you
gonna do the flippy boi
Top or bottom mounted
Never heard of a top mounted PSU
I'll swap out to the rx750x when it arrives though
watc
Same
@fleet canopy As in mounted at the top of the Case
Top mounted existed
Some cases donāt have space for a bottom psu
Uhh
very litle
top mounted is actually more common isn't it
Yeah honestly Iāve never seen that
Not now a days
Not really
in cases designed for custom design the psu usually goes on bottom but in like
Never heard of top mounted either
its rare
Maybe in the OEM markets
Bottom power supplies are almost on all cases
not for gaming
prefabs and workstations
^
I feel like psu is usually up top
With the exception of like ITX sometimes
Honestly I would prefer Top Mounted just because of Cable Management
gaming well never have top mounted
Nah, almost always down
Or in literal sense
or
Bottom side
Custom built case
āgaming caseā
@knotty haven You never seen a Linus tech tips build?
Hm
I know lol
Drop everything
jay 2 cents builds em better tho
Linus Tech Tips
but he has plenty of builds were the PSU is mounted at the top
no monie
hmmmm
yuh
Interesting 
lol im surpized
Iāve never really seen ANY PSU top mounted
he hasnt droped a PC yet
lmao
I'll be upgrading the psu in a couple days anyways
I'll just flip it with everything connected
Uhh
I only want top mount to help with Cable Management

Yeah thatās fine
just get a fully modular PSU
Is it fine 
I have one
God damn discord lag
yeah the one I've ordered is fully modular
But my case is.. awkward
this one isn't though
HX is semi
Donāt have fully modular either
tfw this psu is the "higher grade" one but it's 7 years old
lame
Just saying Mid-Tower cases are ass
Tbh thereās really no difference between semi and fully modular for cable management 
Pretty great PSU though I gotta say
Still need to plug in the required cables
aren't newer hx psus fully modular
Yes
mine's pretty old
Old HX is meh in todayās standard though
yeah
Anyone here made the swap to M.2 then ?
my old rig was top tier back in its day
I bought a samsung evo 970 with the upgrade
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heh
Corsair forgot to put a protection in it and it has an older design 
Cloged up chat
space
Commit no
it's smol
orange you're such a dick
Yes
what why
Donāt have an M.2 yet though
use dumb commands smh
@fleet canopy its like £100 for a 1TB m.2
Iām fine with my Sata
m.2s are cool
Nah Iām getting 250GB for NVME speed
for you
I wanna make the move just for space in my case
in murica
Need wondows fast
My 1 second faster boot times
its 300
Eh
For some motherboards it takes up 2 Sata ports
Unless you donāt mind taking up PCIe lanes ofc
So your technically wrong 
I have like 3/4 TB of memory kek
2.5 TB Gang
PCIe SSD is like 100$ for 250GB lol
Pcie gen 4 is stupid lmao
99% of people donāt need that
They have an rgb one tho 
@fading compass The amount of databreaches I have though take up a whole TB on their own tho
Iāve honestly not heard of them until like last week when my eyes laid on it in PCPP
That new cache out thing?
It looks like a sound card tbh
Oh I see
Pcie gen 4 is like faster than nvme but at a stupid price. And itās basically only available on the x570 motherboards.
SSDs
Eh
Gpus donāt use up that much bandwidth yet
Ofc youāll have AMD say their 5700XT aid optimized for pcie gen 4 
Forgot what it was supposed to be even
lmao didnt some 5700XTs release without a fireware update to fix the performance issues?
5700XT is good if you want to not be able to play some games atm
With or without
I think ill stick with Nvidia atm for GPUs
Yeah, NVIDIA is going well off
Iāve heard from some people AMDs newest driver just fucks the XT up
Not entirely sure tho
What, Windows?
AMD and their driver issues is quite a duo
Cause that's normal
yea
few months back
They pulled that shit with the Vega line smh
At least the CPU aināt fucky

Is your name Windows?
Okay? 
@fleet canopy yeah there are a few games that just refuse to work, but luckily not a huge issue for me
(about the 5700xt)
Huge issue if you like playing the games it canāt run
What games is it? And I don't think its exclusive to the new cards, cause I had issues launching Nioh with the new drivers; but that's been fixed with that previous update
Game runs fine now
From my experience, just a few visual novels on steam
Oh like uh Zero Escape or something
Haven't tried that, but I hope not. I wanted to play it. My Steins;Gate and anything by that same publisher won't work
I see, yeah they gotta fix those problems. If you wanted to experiment its likely pre 2020 drivers might work, but in my experience with Nioh, that actually caused instability with the game for whatever reason even if it did launch
This was before 2020 though lol
I'm referring to the name of the driver suite which is Adrenaline 2020
I knew what you meant


i have a goose on my desktop he brings me memes
No
yes
I was talking to orange
yes
ITSW A GOOSE
And thatās the new Duck thing from Reddit, yeah?
Honk
Goose*
yes muppy
Same thing
also
do anyone here use foot pedals for voip
I've been wrestling with this scythe foot pedal for the last week or so
no i use it for my sim
so I bought a pedal from them like a long time ago
which worked fine
I liked it a lot so I bought another for another rig
but this configuration software has been
a nightmare
I didn't know Scythe made foot pedals, know them for their cpu coolers
they do and the hardware is actually really good
but first off
the software on their website listed as "most current" is outdated
it won't work
they send you a cd and you have to use the software that's on that
had to go out of my way to find a computer with a cd/rom drive
and the button used to/is supposed to emulate a keypress
you press the pedal, the computer thinks you're pressing a key; you let go of the pedal, the computer thinks you've let go of the key
but the new configuration software makes it so that it sends a single "keypress" signal
as in, instantly press and let go
so I can't use it for the intended purpose of voip button now
F
this is actually driving me crazy because the pedal is fairly pricy for what it is (nearly 30 bucks) and the pedal itself is really good
but like
I can't make it do what I need it to do
lmao what the fuck
Why is that here
Hm
Thanks to discord crashing 3x, I couldnāt see it goddamnit
Thanks Discord, very cool
Oh so you want to see it before reporting i see how it is mayo
It crashed before I even saw what it was
Kek
Well it had racist slurs in it so yeah theres that
Roblox, cool
Well those two combined usually have the same outcome
Cancer?
Something like that?
also
Canceraids 
computer just did the shutdown thing again, this time with the psu flipped the right side up
the fan is working
this time there was no significant power draw, I was just watching youtube while having a VM run in the background
wonder what caused that one
after a month of prep i'm now ready to buy parts next week š
Either the psu is failing, which is likely with an older unit. Or something is tripping one of the protections of the power supply
Nice goodluck on the built glass = )
it didn't happen with my old parts
but started happening when I switched to new mobo, cpu, gpu and ram
the power draw of my old parts should be higher though
What did you upgrade from and what do you have now?
Thereās a difference to those if you donāt know
You need new PSU yes
I mean
I already have a new psu on the way
I just want to pinpoint the cause of the problem
Itās gotta be dying and not as effective as current PSUs now I guess
smh
wonder if it was a coincidence that it started happening right around when I switched out the parts
It could be coincidence, or it could be a different issue entirely
Thereās still a difference on draw and TDP




