#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk | GTFO | Page 66

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 5:10 AM

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Ethernet?

knotty haven Jan 28, 2020, 5:10 AM

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Yus

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 5:10 AM

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Plus WiFi is only like a few $ more

knotty haven Jan 28, 2020, 5:10 AM

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i was trying to spelll it lol

solemn orchid Jan 28, 2020, 5:10 AM

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are you buying a 200 dollar board for the RGB

knotty haven Jan 28, 2020, 5:10 AM

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eh no

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 5:10 AM

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Not too bad to have it, when the chance you may have to move at one point

knotty haven Jan 28, 2020, 5:10 AM

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for what ever reason my 270-A-pro was 240

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wahen i coulda just got that one and saved the building a new pc issuye

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:11 AM

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240 for an A-pro, the fuck?

solemn orchid Jan 28, 2020, 5:11 AM

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this is stressing me out, I'm gonna go

knotty haven Jan 28, 2020, 5:11 AM

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fuck spelliing

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 5:11 AM

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ok then

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 5:11 AM

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A pro?

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Never heard it

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 5:12 AM

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yeah i'm sticking with the wifi™

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 5:12 AM

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Yeah, you can put Ethernet on a WiFi board

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:12 AM

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Its like an entry level MSI board

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 5:12 AM

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If I remember correctly

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All should actually

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:12 AM

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Its not bad, they use good components generally

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 5:12 AM

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It’d be dumb

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:12 AM

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But its not worth 240

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 5:12 AM

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Something like 150$?

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 5:13 AM

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this is still my first build so if i can cut having to mess with cables i'll do it >->

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:13 AM

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Uh for a higher end chipset, that's around where the X570 A-pro sits

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The B450 is sub 100

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 5:13 AM

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Oh yeah okay

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:14 AM

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Also not worth it for X570 since the TUF exists, and Asus actually decided to make a pro gamer move and give you the beefiest VRMs on an affordable board

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 5:14 AM

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Haha

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But what about the chipset cooling?

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Heard that was an issue across so many x570

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:14 AM

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Uh, hit or miss, I really don't know

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Some of these guys weren't thinking when they placed the fans

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 5:15 AM

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Kek

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:16 AM

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But yeah like on that board, a really big card might cover the chipset fan. Depending on how close it sits phaSheva

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 5:16 AM

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so...

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what else do i do

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:16 AM

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Don't buy a triple slot card with 3 fans phaWesker

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 5:17 AM

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mine has two fans-

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:17 AM

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I dunno how big that card is, it looks smaller than mine though

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 5:17 AM

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205mm apparently

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:20 AM

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Okay mine is 230mm

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 5:21 AM

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Just replace the fan I guess

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I heard you could do that

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:23 AM

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You know what the x570 tomahawk should be out in this coming month

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Likely a promising option

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But we shall see, they'll pull an epic pro gamer move possibly but it'll still cost more phaWesker

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 5:24 AM

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I hope not haha

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Already got like 500$ boards that are kind of overkill for price

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:25 AM

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They said it was gonna be <200

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 5:25 AM

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so

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https://pcpartpicker.com/user/glasss_/saved/#view=r47W3C

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dis

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is it good

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:25 AM

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Somewhere in the ~230 region I would guess

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I dunno its denying me permission phaWesker

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 5:26 AM

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odd

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:26 AM

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📎 97fad20aa4a3a9fd29a5783950fbf09b.png

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 5:26 AM

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oh its private no wonder

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try now

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https://pcpartpicker.com/user/glasss_/saved/r47W3C

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:27 AM

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No it says its private

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 5:27 AM

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Just give us the build link

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Kek

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:27 AM

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Edit the list and give the share link I guess

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 5:28 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nWbwk6

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:28 AM

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See now this is another thing, what's with the 32gb of RAM

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 5:29 AM

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room for 64GB later on

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:29 AM

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Oh by the way do you plan to get the PSU at Amazon?

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 5:29 AM

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yes

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:29 AM

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Cause Thermaltake will not honor their warranty for PSUs if purchased at Amazon

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 5:30 AM

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Yikes!

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hm

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do i have to buy it from thermaltake themselves or best buy or what

knotty haven Jan 28, 2020, 5:30 AM

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best case rn?

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:30 AM

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Their issue is cause um any individual can sell stuff on Amazon, so they just kinda blanket ban em

knotty haven Jan 28, 2020, 5:31 AM

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I see NZXT h100 is a best sella

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:31 AM

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Same with Ebay

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 5:31 AM

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understandable

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so i should get it off best buy then

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:31 AM

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Uh if you're sticking with that Unit, Best Buy or Newegg is fine

knotty haven Jan 28, 2020, 5:31 AM

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us: i built a pc for 2000

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bitwit: $20

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:31 AM

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I know PC part picker doesn't list it on Newegg

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But it might be if you actually go search for it

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 5:32 AM

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Just look manually instead of relying on PCPP’s retailer list

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They have to manually put in retailers themselves, and there’s a fuckton of parts

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 5:32 AM

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bUt PcPp Is ThE bEsT!!11!11

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/s

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yeah i'll do some poking around

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:33 AM

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Its more than Best Buy looking it up

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 5:33 AM

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$123 on newegg lol no

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:33 AM

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I see 114

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 5:33 AM

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Lol userbenchmarks pc list building is better than pcpp/s

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:33 AM

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But eh okay

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 5:33 AM

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Look more

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They get different prices

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:33 AM

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Oh the 123 is the 850w

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 5:33 AM

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Newegg is a wack shop

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 5:34 AM

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oh whoops

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clearly i need more sleep

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 5:34 AM

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Haha

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:34 AM

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They have different sellers, but its like certified retailers

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 5:34 AM

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$114 is the 750W?

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:35 AM

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Why that power supply? Was it just the best value?

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 5:35 AM

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yeah

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750W, 80+ gold, fully modular and pretty lights for $105

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works for me

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:36 AM

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Pretty good value i got was the Bitfenix Whisper 750w. They stopped shipping em it looks like though

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Got it for 100

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Hang on get this one https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6Y66Mp/corsair-rm-2019-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020195-na

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They'll actually honor Amazon purchases

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 5:39 AM

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no pretty lights, it's worthless /s

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nice, ty

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:40 AM

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I don't understand lighting on a power supply... especially if you have a cover for it with the case... what are you gonna look at, the underglow? phaWesker

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 5:41 AM

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yes.

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😎

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 5:42 AM

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Lol help me

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I’m having to deal with a high-off-his-ass PC elitist about “idiots” being on a satire subreddit that’s not actually even remotely serious

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 5:44 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8wXnTW/cooler-master-masterbox-mb520-rgb-atx-mid-tower-case-mcb-b520-kgnn-rgb

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:44 AM

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Okay phaSheva

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 5:44 AM

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@fleet canopy what subreddit

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ayymd?

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 5:44 AM

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Consolemasterrace

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 5:44 AM

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oh

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 5:44 AM

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I said it was satire

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It’s a joke subreddit

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:44 AM

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AMD sub reddit is a good meme

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 5:44 AM

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Some people think it’s real though

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 5:45 AM

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check out that case ^^

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 5:45 AM

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Good for watercooling

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:45 AM

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Yeah looks like an alright value if you don't want to have to get a bunch of fans

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 5:45 AM

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Not too good unless you don’t mind bad front intake/outtake

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 5:45 AM

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lots of fans.

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whirrrrrr

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how about this https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hWnG3C/cooler-master-masterbox-pro-5-rgb-atx-mid-tower-case-mcy-b5p2-kwgn-01

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 5:47 AM

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Don’t know

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:47 AM

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The former one has better airflow

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Because of the mesh front panel

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 5:48 AM

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Yeah

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There’s the uhhh

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:48 AM

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They're both effectively the same chassis

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Just different front panels

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 5:48 AM

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Meshify something

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The front mesh looks cool

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:48 AM

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Actually I'm mistaken

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The inner is a bit different on the Pro 5

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 5:49 AM

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Good airflow, sexy looking front mesh, and probably good enough to last some good years unless you really want Areeeee Geeeeeee Beeeeeeeeeeee on the front

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Still have a side panel

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Did you see the popular build on PCPP? It was some sexy looking case, custom made I think

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:50 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QdXYcf/phanteks-eclipse-p400a-digital-atx-mid-tower-case-ph-ec400atg_dbk

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RGGBBB

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Its a pretty good case, just needs an exhaust... but fuck that shipping PirateSimon

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 5:52 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PMkj4D/thermaltake-level-20-mt-argb-atx-mid-tower-case-ca-1m7-00m1wn-00

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?

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 5:52 AM

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Shipping makes it 110$ to get lol

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Can’t say. I’m not a big fan of front panels

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:53 AM

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Might as well throw the fans away

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Cause they're not moving any air phaWesker

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 5:53 AM

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damn

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 5:54 AM

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Fuck I couldn’t make a joke on that

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 5:54 AM

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not buying this but like

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VFPKHx/aerocool-cylon-atx-mid-tower-case-cylon-rgb

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:54 AM

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That's a 2017 case design if I've ever seen one

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 5:54 AM

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the aesthetic on that case is

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 5:54 AM

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Hm

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 5:54 AM

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extremely pleasing

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if it was actually good i would die

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:55 AM

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I've seen that one, its probably okay if you treat it like an NZXT case and just use negative pressure

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 5:55 AM

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how™

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:55 AM

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Basically just exhausts

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So fan at the top, and fan in the back

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 5:55 AM

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oh alright

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do i need to buy more case fans for that then

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:56 AM

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Eh I would avoid it though

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 5:56 AM

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oh alr

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that's a damn shame, i really love that design

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:56 AM

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Oh here I think I got one that you might like

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 5:58 AM

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sen d

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:58 AM

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Oh huh they made a mesh version of it, but there's no retail listing for it

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 5:58 AM

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🤷‍♂️

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:59 AM

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So its this one, but you would have to get fans for it https://www.amazon.com/MATREXX-55-ADD-RGB-Motherboard-Addressable/dp/B07WSKF4JG/

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 6:00 AM

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We w .

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how many fans

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and why is it $90 on pcpp

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 6:07 AM

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There's different listings, it's kind of confusing

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Also when I posted that link I lost power for like half a second

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 6:08 AM

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nice

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i can't find the one you sent on PCPP.

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confusing indeed

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 6:11 AM

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https://youtu.be/y4K-4BqTLqk

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I know about this case from this review of it

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Apparently the price varies depending on its configuration

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 6:14 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2Zvbt6/deepcool-matrexx-55-atx-mid-tower-case-matrexx-55

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this?

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with these case fans? https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Mb4gXL/noctua-case-fan-nff12industrialppc3000pwm

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 6:22 AM

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There's a Matrexx 55 that comes with fans

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Should be the 80ish one

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 6:25 AM

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ehhh

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fair

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/k9ndrV

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 6:29 AM

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Hm

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At this point I dunno what to say about it haha

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I’m just gonna say it’s good

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Would recommend just one m.2 for boot, regular SSD for games n shit

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 6:35 AM

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alr

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hP7vq3

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 6:39 AM

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Yeah that’s pretty good. Surprised you’re getting a 1440p 144hz monitor though

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The price is fucking good though

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Unless something is bad with it

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Eh, seems like it’s just getting cheaper now I guess

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I’m gonna sleep however

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Good night

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 6:47 AM

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gn

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also the 1440p/144hz is for when nvidia 3000 comes out @fleet canopy

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ok gn

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🌝

abstract kite Jan 28, 2020, 7:21 AM

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Ok, attention

My friend finally figured out whats wrong with my overall pc performance, apperently all the latest intel chips have been updating their zombieantivirus or smth like that, and that caused a lot ot downfall in FPS.

So yeah basically im fkd xd

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And yeah obv my RAM is sht too but yeah

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 7:22 AM

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upgrade to amd

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:D

abstract kite Jan 28, 2020, 7:22 AM

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prolly will

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rtx 3080ti + amd

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 7:22 AM

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3080ti + 4950x

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wew

abstract kite Jan 28, 2020, 7:22 AM

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is that good for 240hz xd

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 7:22 AM

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2400hz

abstract kite Jan 28, 2020, 7:22 AM

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ok gr8

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any pricing rumors for amd

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as i havent

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followed amd

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 7:23 AM

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no

abstract kite Jan 28, 2020, 7:23 AM

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at all

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Any suspected prices from people

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like based of on older ryzen cpus

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If its gonna cost 800€ (in europe) i could get it for 560€

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more or less

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16/32 thats insane

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😂

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Literally no one needs 16c/32t for gaming 🤣

hard bloom Jan 28, 2020, 7:56 AM

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like overkill XD

abstract kite Jan 28, 2020, 8:09 AM

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Yoink i do

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😂

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I blame the OCD

sick reef Jan 28, 2020, 8:12 AM

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A "good to have" number of cores/threads is 8/16, or 6/12, for specifically gaming.

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Then you can fill your computer with bloatware and it won't freeze every minute.

merry bay Jan 28, 2020, 8:35 AM

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@median moon Your M.2 SSD isn't NVME, you'll be looking at ~500 speeds.

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oh wait you have a Sabrent paired with that, I guess that was intentional as a gamedrive for less cables and whatnot

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+10 bucks and you can replace it with a 660p 1TB. Not the fastest out there
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9nhKHx/intel-660p-series-1tb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-ssdpeknw010t8x1
For a gamedrive though the speed increase would save you only a second or a few in some extreme cases like GTA V or smoother transitions in open world games.
What i'm trying to say it's hard to say if it's worth

gentle nimbus Jan 28, 2020, 9:56 AM

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is there a recommened settings for 1080ti cards to max out?

teal maple Jan 28, 2020, 1:18 PM

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Hey guys does anyones elses auido cut out during fire fights?

knotty haven Jan 28, 2020, 3:34 PM

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2080TI

rough scroll Jan 28, 2020, 3:48 PM

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whats better than a h115i AIO ?

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cause im not getting the thermals im looking for but i dont want to go all crazy with water cooling

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 4:06 PM

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Well what temps are you getting?

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Cause if you aren't satisfied with them, maybe the issue is a couple other factors

north bronze Jan 28, 2020, 4:35 PM

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is the 2080ti better than the 1080ti? I've heard people say it isn't for some reason

merry bay Jan 28, 2020, 4:38 PM

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When you take into account how much you'd spend to get your hands on one, 1080ti is superior in a lot of cases.

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2080ti hands down gets better performance though

stiff rock Jan 28, 2020, 4:38 PM

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I guess 2080ti is more future proof as well?

merry bay Jan 28, 2020, 4:41 PM

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Depends on your standards and what you'd do with it tbh

abstract kite Jan 28, 2020, 5:09 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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is this a scam xD

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for RTX 2080ti

north bronze Jan 28, 2020, 5:15 PM

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most likely @abstract kite

abstract kite Jan 28, 2020, 5:17 PM

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GWmemetownTriHalf

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:41 PM

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The problem with the 2080ti, its like 25 - 30% faster while being what... 80% sometimes 100% more expensive than what you would typically get a 1080ti for when it was brand new.

rough scroll Jan 28, 2020, 5:51 PM

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didnt stop me from getting one

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:51 PM

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No it didn't stop anyone from getting one if they wanted to

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People were paying a grand for 1080ti during the mining boom, so eh...

rough scroll Jan 28, 2020, 5:52 PM

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but i have a 9900k and im getting about 60 degrees 100% load

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i want to clock it faster but not with that temp

north bronze Jan 28, 2020, 5:52 PM

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im gonna wait for the new GPUs to drop before making my choice

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I've got until June anyway

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:52 PM

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60 degrees is fine

north bronze Jan 28, 2020, 5:52 PM

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hopefully the Valve Index comes back in stock by then :p

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:52 PM

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I mean its 9900k, fucken thing gets hot

rough scroll Jan 28, 2020, 5:52 PM

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but i want to clock it faster cause i render things for my discord

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:53 PM

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What is it clocked at?

rough scroll Jan 28, 2020, 5:53 PM

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i believe 4.4

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:55 PM

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9900 non K is that a mistake in the list?

rough scroll Jan 28, 2020, 5:55 PM

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yea

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:55 PM

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Oh uh...

rough scroll Jan 28, 2020, 5:55 PM

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and i dont think i went with that power supply either

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:55 PM

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Is that also the wrong power supply?

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What is it then?

rough scroll Jan 28, 2020, 5:56 PM

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1 sec

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there this should be fairly accurate

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/c3ytK4

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:57 PM

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Oh okay

rough scroll Jan 28, 2020, 5:57 PM

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that was just when i was buying parts i had already bought the cpu motherboard and powersupply so i wasnt worried

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but whats the best aio?

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 6:00 PM

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No idea, but I doubt you would really get any better temps with anything else

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Maybe a degree or two

rough scroll Jan 28, 2020, 6:00 PM

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ok 😦

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thanks for the imput

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 6:01 PM

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If you decide to overclock to 5ghz, uh it will of course run hotter. That's just how it is, but it'll be fine

rough scroll Jan 28, 2020, 6:01 PM

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i tried that 75 degreese scarrry

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 6:02 PM

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75 degrees isn't scary

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99 degrees would be scary phaWesker

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And you would never see that with good cooling

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Like theoretically if you used Intel's Stock cooler, that's about as hot as it would get if not hotter and it will down clock to prevent thermal throttle

rough scroll Jan 28, 2020, 6:03 PM

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i read online on a bunch of sites that 60 is the max u want to stay comfortable

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 6:03 PM

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Well no it is thermal throttle

rough scroll Jan 28, 2020, 6:03 PM

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i thinks the term used was melting point lol

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 6:04 PM

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CPUs can handle temperatures just fine, they're rated to handle really really high temperatures constantly

rough scroll Jan 28, 2020, 6:04 PM

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okay

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 6:04 PM

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People kill their CPUs

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By putting too much voltage in there

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Can kill the motherboard doing that too

rough scroll Jan 28, 2020, 6:05 PM

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so does using full on water cooling better than aio?

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 6:06 PM

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Its better in performance alone, otherwise you know having to maintain it adds an extra bit. And generally there's a higher risk of a leak occurring from what I understand. People that do that are enthusiasts and don't mind the risk, and have the money to do so

rough scroll Jan 28, 2020, 6:06 PM

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just a question my dad asked me when i got my aio and i was just like idk

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ok thanks

final scaffold Jan 28, 2020, 6:29 PM

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Just wanted to say how happy I am that the game is so well optimized even at these early stages, usually games as visually appealing as this one demand so much more power. I have a gtx 1070 and I haven’t dropped below 60fps with all max settings for 12 hours of gameplay. Congratulations to the devs.

regal laurel Jan 28, 2020, 7:40 PM

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Gpu-wise this game seems to be doing pretty well yeah, it's the cpu load that should be tried to be decreased in future updates. Cpu limit doesn't come into play at 60fps obviously.

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regarding the AIO stuff, yeah it's very normal to have CPUs be around 75-85 degrees C under full load. When they reach their TJ max (100-110 on intel) they'll "throttle" and downclock to decrease temperature or shut down the system. You can hardly damage your cpu like that. The only thing that's not so good for it is to have it run at like 99 degrees 24/7 and feeding it very high voltage, say 1.4v+ on 9900k

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if you for some reason want your cpu to stay around 60c at 5ghz, you'd likely need a good chip for one

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there are also some 420 and 480mm AIOs, but again, there isn't really much reason not to let it go to 80c

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and a custom watercooling loop is immediately going to put you at 250$+

cold walrus Jan 28, 2020, 7:48 PM

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Bigger radiators isn't always better as well

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you can do just fine with a 240mm radiator and have the same effect as a 480

jade ermine Jan 28, 2020, 7:50 PM

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bigger is always better when it comes to radiator😜

cold walrus Jan 28, 2020, 7:50 PM

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arguable

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only if you're extreme overclocking and even then you'll much rather want to crack the CPU itself open and use LN2

jade ermine Jan 28, 2020, 7:52 PM

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I mean you kinda need plenty of radiator if you want to keep fans at low rpm while having a great cooling

cold walrus Jan 28, 2020, 7:52 PM

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yes but even then it depends on how much you OC the CPU

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if you go from like 3,7 to 4,0 you're not going to need THAT big of a radiator

jade ermine Jan 28, 2020, 7:53 PM

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Is it worth to have plenty of radiator? Usually no. You are looking generally 5-15C reduction with coolant temperature between normal loop with one radiator and overkill system.

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and this will not give you big gains

cold walrus Jan 28, 2020, 7:54 PM

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tbh though too the bigger the radiator means more fans which also means more wires

jade ermine Jan 28, 2020, 7:55 PM

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Thats where wire management comes in

cold walrus Jan 28, 2020, 7:55 PM

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true

regal laurel Jan 28, 2020, 7:55 PM

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or you get these upcoming clip together fans

cold walrus Jan 28, 2020, 7:55 PM

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I have never seen those before

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I just use split cables for my WC

jade ermine Jan 28, 2020, 7:56 PM

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I have external radiator with 9 fans and only one 4pin pwm wire goes in to my pc. Controller and fan wires are in this DIY box behind the radiator

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cold walrus Jan 28, 2020, 7:56 PM

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open case I assume then?

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or have it custom cut

pallid epoch Jan 28, 2020, 8:00 PM

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Hello, Is there anyone willing to help me fix my pc so I can play the game normally. When I start the game everything works smooth and after some time my pc just freezes. It does not make any sound or anything. I sent it to a shop nearby and it was on their diagnostics for 10days they said that I have a problem with my HDD something with the electronics in it. So I threw the HDD away and bought a new SDD today installed new windows etc. However the problem still persists, does anyone have a similar problem and I hope someone knows how to fix it so pretty please I am looking forward to a response 😄

cold walrus Jan 28, 2020, 8:01 PM

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the game freezes or your rig freezes

pallid epoch Jan 28, 2020, 8:02 PM

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Also this is the one thing that has a error message 10 in dev mngr

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📎 unknown.png

cold walrus Jan 28, 2020, 8:02 PM

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if the GAME is freezing that sounds like a loading issue which it may just need a reinstall

pallid epoch Jan 28, 2020, 8:02 PM

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My rig freezes

cold walrus Jan 28, 2020, 8:03 PM

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when you launch GTFO or any game

pallid epoch Jan 28, 2020, 8:03 PM

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Just CSGO and GTFO for now

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With League of Legends I have no problems

cold walrus Jan 28, 2020, 8:03 PM

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How old is your pc?

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 8:03 PM

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Hm

pallid epoch Jan 28, 2020, 8:03 PM

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8years

cold walrus Jan 28, 2020, 8:03 PM

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That might be why lol

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 8:03 PM

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What are specs?

pallid epoch Jan 28, 2020, 8:04 PM

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Gigabyte h77m-d3h motherboard

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8gb ddr3 hyperX kingston ram

cold walrus Jan 28, 2020, 8:04 PM

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ddr3 ram would explain it pretty well tbh

pallid epoch Jan 28, 2020, 8:05 PM

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Intel Core i5 3570 CPU

merry bay Jan 28, 2020, 8:05 PM

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having ddr3 isn't a reason for freezes LUL

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 8:05 PM

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About most of the parts explains it

pallid epoch Jan 28, 2020, 8:05 PM

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AMD Radeon HD 7700

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 8:05 PM

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DDR3 is still okay I guess

cold walrus Jan 28, 2020, 8:06 PM

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some games refuse to even run if you have ddr3

pallid epoch Jan 28, 2020, 8:06 PM

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Yea but I played CSGO for 400 hours

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I never had a problem till the last 100 hours

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When this started ocuring

cold walrus Jan 28, 2020, 8:06 PM

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The ram could be dying but it could also be other things

pallid epoch Jan 28, 2020, 8:07 PM

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Is there any free software that can check my hardware and find what is causing the problem?

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 8:07 PM

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CPU plays a big factor on CSGO. Graphics card should handle game good. DDR3 could be the problem, but I’ve not seen so much problems with it

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Your PC is mostly outdated to handle the games very well now @pallid epoch

cold walrus Jan 28, 2020, 8:07 PM

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its also issues with GTFO so CPU can't be the only thing

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 8:08 PM

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However, such PC you would need won’t need to be too expensive. A good one that’ll fit your needs may come 500-800$

cold walrus Jan 28, 2020, 8:08 PM

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I'd def upgrade the ram to at least 16 though

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just to make sure

merry bay Jan 28, 2020, 8:09 PM

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i've yet to hear about a game not run just because of DDR3, it might run slower, but not just stop functioning alltogether.

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 8:09 PM

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Not only that, if you are going with Ryzen, get 3200MHz

cold walrus Jan 28, 2020, 8:09 PM

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There are a few I have seen but I don't own them so I'd have to dig for them

pallid epoch Jan 28, 2020, 8:09 PM

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I just wanted a fast fix so I can play the game for 15 more days

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I am on my holiday then back to work

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 8:10 PM

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Ah

pallid epoch Jan 28, 2020, 8:10 PM

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After a year I will come back then there is no problem to buy a new pc

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 8:10 PM

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Well the sale is just around the corner I believe, spring break or summer sale

merry bay Jan 28, 2020, 8:10 PM

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If you're willing to troubleshoot thoroughly, might figure out which part is the fault.

pallid epoch Jan 28, 2020, 8:10 PM

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I would like that

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 8:10 PM

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3200MHz is best™

pallid epoch Jan 28, 2020, 8:11 PM

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To troubleshoot but how?

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 8:11 PM

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Oh yeah

merry bay Jan 28, 2020, 8:11 PM

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Do you have a spare flashdrive lying around? First suspect is the RAM.

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 8:11 PM

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And make sure the CAS is 16 too

pallid epoch Jan 28, 2020, 8:11 PM

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Yes

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 8:11 PM

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Don’t be like Coffee, who probably got a CAS19 DDR4-3200MHz

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 8:12 PM

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yikes

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 8:12 PM

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He refused to get new RAM, complained his 9900K was shit lol

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Ddr4 2400 ain’t cutting it lol

jade ermine Jan 28, 2020, 8:12 PM

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IF does not allow me to do past 3600mhz 1:1🙃

📎 uusi_247_1usmus_fast_3600_aida.png

merry bay Jan 28, 2020, 8:13 PM

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@pallid epoch download memtest86, they include an installer for formatting a USB. Would have to boot it from USB. Would you know how to do that?

jade ermine Jan 28, 2020, 8:13 PM

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write is bugged out, it should be at ~ 55k

pallid epoch Jan 28, 2020, 8:13 PM

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Yes thanks

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 8:14 PM

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I’m seeing MB then GB rest of the way

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I’m not too sure what the problem is >.> not seeing it

merry bay Jan 28, 2020, 8:14 PM

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The test will take a long while. You're looking at how common errors are. Ideally it should be clean.

pallid epoch Jan 28, 2020, 8:17 PM

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memtest is writing on usb

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How to I start memtest boot from it?

merry bay Jan 28, 2020, 8:18 PM

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It can differ between motherboards. Hard to give precise steps. Might need to restart your PC a few times while catching a glimpse at the control options.

abstract kite Jan 28, 2020, 8:18 PM

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GWpinkuKannaPat @fleet canopy

merry bay Jan 28, 2020, 8:18 PM

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Tends to be F9 or F12 for boot options.

pallid epoch Jan 28, 2020, 8:18 PM

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Ok thanks I will try it

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 8:18 PM

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GWovoYayy

pallid epoch Jan 28, 2020, 8:18 PM

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f12 is mine

abstract kite Jan 28, 2020, 8:18 PM

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btw u lads like my new profile pic

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 8:19 PM

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Yes

abstract kite Jan 28, 2020, 8:19 PM

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GWatproHyperPoggers

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 8:19 PM

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Now it looks like the coffee was made by some pretzel company

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Funny, since I’m eating pretzels rn lmao

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 8:19 PM

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auntie anne's

abstract kite Jan 28, 2020, 8:20 PM

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😮

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 8:22 PM

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@merry bay anything i can improve on this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rxwkgJ

merry bay Jan 28, 2020, 8:23 PM

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@pallid epoch
OCCT can test either the CPU or GPU too.
"3D" option for GPU
"OCCT" option for CPU

It's not the most cruel test, but if your memory seems ok, then one of those should produce the same freezes.

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 8:23 PM

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A mouse /s

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 8:26 PM

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i have a 🖱️ already

merry bay Jan 28, 2020, 8:33 PM

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the build seems good enough for the budget. Only mentioned the SSD earlier because I thought you didn't notice your M.2 is SATA and not NVME

abstract kite Jan 28, 2020, 8:47 PM

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ok what the actual fuck

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can someone explain how am i magically getting my frames back on VULKAN graphics

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r6s added vulkan support

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📎 unknown.png

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apperently adaptive render scaling helps a shit ton

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i get 222-235 fps now

glossy tide Jan 28, 2020, 8:51 PM

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Uh question?

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My pc has been struggling to run this game at 60 frames, suddenly gets very choppy and borderline unplayable. My machine is pretty decent tho and this shouldnt rly be an issue.

abstract kite Jan 28, 2020, 8:56 PM

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specs and which games?

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 9:02 PM

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Vulkan is just that good

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Just finished doing a dust clean up on the pc, dropped temps by like 3 degrees I want to say

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As far as low use/idle is concerned

glossy tide Jan 28, 2020, 9:12 PM

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This game lol, doesnt rly struggle with anything else. Uh specs, I got an ASROCK AB350, Ryzen 5 1600, asus rx 580, and 16gb of ram

abstract kite Jan 28, 2020, 9:12 PM

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vulkan is unbelivably good

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legit pulled me out from 120 to 222-235

late sorrel Jan 28, 2020, 9:16 PM

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yeah

abstract kite Jan 28, 2020, 9:18 PM

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i luv vulkan

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:3

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HELL FUCKING YES

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back at 235 fps at ultra

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dont mind me

noble arrow Jan 28, 2020, 9:30 PM

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@glossy tide What resolution are you trying to run? im running a Ryzen 1200 overclocked with a rx570 and 8gb of ram, 60fps is no issue high settings on 1080p

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 9:47 PM

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Yeah I have a similar spec pc, but with a 2600

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I uh, average above 80. Drops only happen when waves start spawning

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Play around with the full screen settings, cause apparently there is a known bug that causes exclusivefullscreen to perform better on certain systems

glossy tide Jan 28, 2020, 10:13 PM

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@noble arrow Im running with exclusivefullscreen, cause I know that it just runs better. Uh I got the correct resolution 1920x1080.

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I've fiddled around and found it works capped at like 35 frames with the cpu culled

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But I mean, I dunno why I cant get 60 frames, or what culling actually does

remote horizon Jan 28, 2020, 10:15 PM

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Culling will put more work on your CPU if you are GPU bottlenecked.

noble arrow Jan 28, 2020, 10:17 PM

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I have mine capped at 60, and it runs fine, I dont know what would be causing an issue for you

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 10:17 PM

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Reset everything to default, and then disable vsync

glossy tide Jan 28, 2020, 10:18 PM

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be nice if there was a default button

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 10:18 PM

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Oh I assumed there was phaWesker

glossy tide Jan 28, 2020, 10:19 PM

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Uh yeah no its sad still

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If anything its worse with vsynch off

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Much of the issue is like screen tearing and choppyness

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 10:19 PM

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Your 580, how much Vram does it have?

glossy tide Jan 28, 2020, 10:20 PM

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How do I find out the answer to that question?

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 10:20 PM

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Open the radeon software

glossy tide Jan 28, 2020, 10:21 PM

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yup

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 10:21 PM

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On the settings it'll tell you

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Like so

📎 cf3052996e354ec1de5e03c342876185.png

glossy tide Jan 28, 2020, 10:21 PM

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Our settings look very different

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 10:21 PM

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Then you must be running old drivers

glossy tide Jan 28, 2020, 10:22 PM

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My drivers should be updated

remote horizon Jan 28, 2020, 10:22 PM

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You should have adrenaline 2020

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 10:22 PM

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If your settings look different, then its probably not adrenaline 2020

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Cause that's what I'm using

glossy tide Jan 28, 2020, 10:23 PM

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Oh yeah, left my pc at my dorm for break, does need an update

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Guess it wont auto update

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 10:23 PM

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Yeah you might be using whatever drivers windows grabs

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Which is always old

glossy tide Jan 28, 2020, 10:23 PM

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Nah I usually check that stuff,

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I've tried manually installing drivers once cause of issues in anothyer game

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Never fixed it tho

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 10:24 PM

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Okay well anyway, there's a program called DDU

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Display Driver Uninstaller

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It will wipe all traces of video drivers, allowing you to install new drivers fresh

glossy tide Jan 28, 2020, 10:25 PM

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Oh great!

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 10:25 PM

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I always do that with an update

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All you gotta do is um download the latest driver, unpack the installation; don't run the installer though

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Then run DDU in Safe mode

glossy tide Jan 28, 2020, 10:26 PM

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mhm

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 10:26 PM

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After then you're fine to run the installer, it unpacks in a AMD folder on your C drive

glossy tide Jan 28, 2020, 10:26 PM

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Welp I'm already updating it from their menu, but later this week I'll probably sit down and do that

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Maybe that'll fix some of my graphics issues in minecraft lol

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 10:27 PM

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You might get issues if you're installing from an old driver

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Which is why I'm recommending running DDU

glossy tide Jan 28, 2020, 10:28 PM

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There doesnt seem to be a way to cancel the update now though, so I'll wait and repeat that process again with ddu

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Uh in any case the exe for the installer should be c:\AMD

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And a folder with the driver version and date

glossy tide Jan 28, 2020, 10:31 PM

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Mine is getting the same vram as yours

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Our pics for the gpu is practically the same

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8192 mb

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 10:31 PM

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Okay, just ruling out a shortage of vram issue

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Which isn't likely with this game tbh

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Oh hey there's an update since yesterday

glossy tide Jan 28, 2020, 10:33 PM

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hm

candid charm Jan 28, 2020, 10:41 PM

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i overclocked my pc

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/662024293982404618/671844550322552841/unknown.png

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😄

trail lagoon Jan 28, 2020, 11:06 PM

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I yesterday asked if game will work with 60 fps, even in 900p, on my PC with i5-4770k @ 4.2ghz, GTX 770 from MSI and 8GBs of RAM, and indeed, game works with lowest settings, textures set on half and in the 1600x900 resolution

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so, if somebody's still wondering whether to get the game, bcuz he has low end pc, i'd say go for it

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cuz that spec is 7 years old atm

spice kraken Jan 28, 2020, 11:11 PM

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I'm on a 3700x, 5700 xt, and 24 gigs of ram. Should the game run decently well?

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 11:11 PM

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Oh no, it couldn’t run. You need a 3080 Ti and the 5990X

spice kraken Jan 28, 2020, 11:12 PM

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I meant more if it has trouble with amd, because some things only run well with nvidia

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 11:12 PM

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Plus 512GB of DDR7-9999

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Nah I’ve heard AMD PCs does better than NVIDIA+intel for some reason

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Not sure whether it’s the CPU or GPU’s fault for making it not run smooth, but AMD is great with game basically

spice kraken Jan 28, 2020, 11:13 PM

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Huh, that's unusual but not unwelcome

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 11:57 PM

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The days of Nvidia cards performing better in games was the early 2010s pretty much. Devs optimized well for those cards, not really the case anymore, save for certain games favoring one or the other.

abstract kite Jan 28, 2020, 11:57 PM

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actually i can confirm

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nvidia optimized the cards

obsidian bobcat Jan 29, 2020, 12:13 AM

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@spice kraken the game runs just fine w my 2700x so you should be fine

lilac oar Jan 29, 2020, 12:34 AM

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I also confirm that 2700x runs 100% fine

noble arrow Jan 29, 2020, 12:54 AM

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AMD is cheaper and typically runs games better then intel, not that Intel runs them bad, but intel is focusing more on the productivity side of things, like video editing, 3d rendering, etc

vapid crypt Jan 29, 2020, 1:12 AM

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Uh, are you sure you don't have that backwards?

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 1:16 AM

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Thats pretty backwards

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~~AMD~~ Intel is~~ cheaper~~ more expensive and typically runs games better then ~~intel~~ AMD, not that ~~Intel~~ AMD runs them bad, but ~~intel~~ AMD is focusing more on the productivity side of things, like video editing, 3d rendering, etc

knotty haven Jan 29, 2020, 1:33 AM

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2080

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@fleet canopy intel for gaming AMD for Productivity

radiant garnet Jan 29, 2020, 2:57 AM

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AMD is pretty damn good for both right now. Only the 9700K and 9900K(s) is any better, and not by much, and even then, the price difference means that unless you're going for a 2080ti, for CPU + MB + GPU + CPU cooler (intel only) you'll get better performance in game and overall running with an AMD CPU.

warped hedge Jan 29, 2020, 2:58 AM

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did you say you get better performance with intel over amd

radiant garnet Jan 29, 2020, 3:00 AM

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No, I'm saying that if you live in a world where your budget is less than 2000€, you get better system and gaming performance by going with AMD CPUs vs intel CPUs, and use the difference to step up your GPU. Be that going from a 5600xt to a 5700 or from a 2060super to a 2070super

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 3:03 AM

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@knotty haven that’s not always the case. The best gaming CPU is from intel, but not every CPU is a good gaming one

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A 9900K is great for productivity too

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 3:04 AM

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What you pay for a 9900k is

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eh

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overpriced for what you get

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 3:04 AM

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I don’t exactly consider 9900K the best gaming chip anyways

warped hedge Jan 29, 2020, 3:04 AM

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3950X cough

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 3:04 AM

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9900K is still well up there

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the only intel chip I still recommend

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 3:05 AM

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Only depends whether the CPU can make your GPU not perform shit imo

knotty haven Jan 29, 2020, 3:05 AM

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@fleet canopy no u

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 3:05 AM

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But for a overall balanced system, I would recommend Ryzen currently. If Intel makes something better than Ryzen I'll recommend that

warped hedge Jan 29, 2020, 3:05 AM

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so bottlenecking

radiant garnet Jan 29, 2020, 3:05 AM

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The 3700x is currently $325 on PCPP. The 9700K is $390. That's $65 more. And with intel, you will need a CPU cooler, call that $30. The stock AMD one is actually fine. So that's a difference of $105 for performance that is plenty close enough. I'm having some issues confirming if a 'non Z' intel motherboard can or can't overclock the RAM, but assuming it cannot, that's another $50 more expense to get the same features on an intel platform (z390 vs B450). Is the 9700K faster in some games? Yes. Is it faster enough to make up a 150$ GPU upgrade? LOL nope

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 3:05 AM

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Uno reverse

warped hedge Jan 29, 2020, 3:06 AM

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Stock amd cooler get me at a toasty 87C

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its Trash

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 3:06 AM

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Ryzen is still a lot cheaper for more performance than what Intel gives lol

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 3:06 AM

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Uhh. It's wise to get a cooler for a 3700X

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Stock looks nice but not optimal

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at all

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 3:06 AM

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And it’s true the 9900K is an 8core?

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 3:06 AM

#

yes

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 3:07 AM

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Cause you’re getting 12 cores for only 50$ more

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With a 3900X

radiant garnet Jan 29, 2020, 3:07 AM

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It is an 8c16t CPU yes, same as the 3700x/3800x. The 9700K is a 8c8t

warped hedge Jan 29, 2020, 3:07 AM

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the 9900k is a 8 core wtf thats basic knowledge @fleet canopy

coral sand Jan 29, 2020, 3:07 AM

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Buying Intel

knotty haven Jan 29, 2020, 3:07 AM

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@fleet canopy trap card

warped hedge Jan 29, 2020, 3:07 AM

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buying amd

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 3:07 AM

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It’s been a long time since I looked at intel

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Also stop fucking pinging me wtf

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 3:08 AM

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@fleet canopy

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 3:08 AM

#

Rusjrurbshd

warped hedge Jan 29, 2020, 3:08 AM

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ok @fleet canopy

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 3:08 AM

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Ok @warped hedge

radiant garnet Jan 29, 2020, 3:08 AM

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Be nice

warped hedge Jan 29, 2020, 3:08 AM

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ok @fleet canopy

coral sand Jan 29, 2020, 3:08 AM

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Yes, buy AMD

knotty haven Jan 29, 2020, 3:08 AM

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ok @warped hedge

coral sand Jan 29, 2020, 3:08 AM

#

SenkoSmug

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 3:08 AM

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Stop it

median moon Jan 29, 2020, 3:08 AM

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@fleet canopy @abstract kite 🤗

warped hedge Jan 29, 2020, 3:08 AM

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ok @knotty haven

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 3:08 AM

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Like I’m actually fucking irritated now

knotty haven Jan 29, 2020, 3:08 AM

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yes

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 3:08 AM

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Whats up Glass?

knotty haven Jan 29, 2020, 3:08 AM

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boomer

warped hedge Jan 29, 2020, 3:08 AM

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yes

median moon Jan 29, 2020, 3:08 AM

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noffink

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 3:08 AM

#

Mayo

kek

median moon Jan 29, 2020, 3:09 AM

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just waiting on my grades to go up before i get my parts

radiant garnet Jan 29, 2020, 3:09 AM

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This isn't nice, productive or related to PC builds and tech talk. Maybe get back on topic?

median moon Jan 29, 2020, 3:09 AM

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i've got $300 leftover after tax and a rift S

warped hedge Jan 29, 2020, 3:09 AM

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no

median moon Jan 29, 2020, 3:09 AM

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should go a long way towards ampere

warped hedge Jan 29, 2020, 3:09 AM

#

kek

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 3:09 AM

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300$ for a 3060

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 3:09 AM

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Thats good Glass

knotty haven Jan 29, 2020, 3:09 AM

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@warped hedge ok. no pib

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 3:09 AM

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Kek

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 3:09 AM

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Get those grades up!

knotty haven Jan 29, 2020, 3:09 AM

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ping

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S is no grade

median moon Jan 29, 2020, 3:10 AM

#

finals are like over so i'm just waiting on that now

knotty haven Jan 29, 2020, 3:10 AM

#

kek

warped hedge Jan 29, 2020, 3:10 AM

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3800x is god tier

knotty haven Jan 29, 2020, 3:10 AM

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no

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 3:10 AM

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Yes

knotty haven Jan 29, 2020, 3:10 AM

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9999k

radiant garnet Jan 29, 2020, 3:10 AM

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@knotty haven Would that be build on intel's 14nm+++++++++ node?

median moon Jan 29, 2020, 3:10 AM

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only thing i'm concerned about is building the damn thing itself. >->

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 3:10 AM

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Only when the 3800X is on sale, yeah

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 3:10 AM

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If you need help Glass just hit me up

median moon Jan 29, 2020, 3:10 AM

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worried about messing something up because first time builder

knotty haven Jan 29, 2020, 3:10 AM

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yes.

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@median moon its easy

warped hedge Jan 29, 2020, 3:11 AM

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got my my 3800x for 10$ less than the 3700x

knotty haven Jan 29, 2020, 3:11 AM

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trust ua

warped hedge Jan 29, 2020, 3:11 AM

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so

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worth

median moon Jan 29, 2020, 3:11 AM

#

@knotty haven

📎 image0-39.png

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 3:11 AM

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Asked what?

knotty haven Jan 29, 2020, 3:11 AM

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You?

warped hedge Jan 29, 2020, 3:11 AM

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huh

radiant garnet Jan 29, 2020, 3:11 AM

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Go slow, remember the rear IO board, nothing needs any great force, except the 24pin motherboard connector (fuck that one) and remember the rear IO board.

knotty haven Jan 29, 2020, 3:11 AM

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Lol fucked your self

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 3:11 AM

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Some guy went building a few days ago on buying a pc recently

median moon Jan 29, 2020, 3:11 AM

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-_-

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 3:11 AM

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Still hasn’t done it because he sort of fucked up quite a bit

warped hedge Jan 29, 2020, 3:11 AM

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i slammed my cpu in did i do good

median moon Jan 29, 2020, 3:11 AM

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#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk is toxic today

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☢️ 🚶

knotty haven Jan 29, 2020, 3:12 AM

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Fishy is broke

warped hedge Jan 29, 2020, 3:12 AM

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it wrk

knotty haven Jan 29, 2020, 3:12 AM

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luck

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 3:12 AM

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It’s like people brought world war 3 in here

warped hedge Jan 29, 2020, 3:12 AM

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i put paste in the sockt

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 3:12 AM

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@radiant garnet Most IO shields are built into the board already in the high end boards yea?

warped hedge Jan 29, 2020, 3:12 AM

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cools tht bottom of the chip

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 3:12 AM

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Like damn, calm down

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 3:12 AM

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Both of my X570 boards had them

knotty haven Jan 29, 2020, 3:12 AM

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ok boomdf @fleet canopy

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 3:12 AM

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Nice spelling

knotty haven Jan 29, 2020, 3:12 AM

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i go be with other boomdf.

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and zoomers.

warped hedge Jan 29, 2020, 3:13 AM

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OK EVERYONE

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BEFORE A MOD SHOWS UP

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 3:13 AM

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several people are typing

median moon Jan 29, 2020, 3:13 AM

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i'm also worried about, uh, the quality of delivery services in my area

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 3:13 AM

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Yeah no I’m already pissed off enough

knotty haven Jan 29, 2020, 3:13 AM

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Mods are lurking

warped hedge Jan 29, 2020, 3:13 AM

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lul

median moon Jan 29, 2020, 3:13 AM

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i'd bet $20 at least one thing is bricked on arrival

warped hedge Jan 29, 2020, 3:13 AM

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BET

median moon Jan 29, 2020, 3:13 AM

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because some dickhead tossed it through the door

warped hedge Jan 29, 2020, 3:13 AM

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ill take that

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 3:13 AM

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They see everything. squint

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 3:13 AM

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Nah, depends what you order from

radiant garnet Jan 29, 2020, 3:13 AM

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@abstract kite Many are, but not all. I personally see no reason to go for a high-end motherboard, as most will never use half the extra features they're paying for. Make sure the VRM has some basic heatsink, and that's basically that. Most other things aren't really worth it IMO if you're on a budget.

knotty haven Jan 29, 2020, 3:14 AM

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boomer

warped hedge Jan 29, 2020, 3:14 AM

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agree to dissagree @radiant garnet

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 3:14 AM

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Ok doomer

median moon Jan 29, 2020, 3:14 AM

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ah hell i forgot i need to like

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buy vr games

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whoops

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 3:14 AM

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Kek

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Those aren’t too expensive

warped hedge Jan 29, 2020, 3:14 AM

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vr is good

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 3:14 AM

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Just wait on sale

warped hedge Jan 29, 2020, 3:14 AM

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i like my rift

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 3:14 AM

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Make sure you have enough VRM for the chip too.
High end motherboards are my specialty, was unsure about lower end ones

median moon Jan 29, 2020, 3:14 AM

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i mean my personal favorites are already free kinda

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payday 2 and SUPERHOT both allow free downloads of their vr versions iirc

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 3:15 AM

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Yeah

median moon Jan 29, 2020, 3:15 AM

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H3 though

radiant garnet Jan 29, 2020, 3:15 AM

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@warped hedge Explain to me how in a $1000 build, spending $150 vs $75 on a motherboard makes a useful difference to the average user? I see none.

warped hedge Jan 29, 2020, 3:15 AM

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try beat saber

random magnet Jan 29, 2020, 3:15 AM

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you get more ports and shit

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 3:15 AM

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H3 could be getting a good sale tbh

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 3:15 AM

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@radiant garnet Fish didn't say anything about budgets

median moon Jan 29, 2020, 3:15 AM

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beat saber looks like hell for someone like me lol

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 3:15 AM

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I know you could get VR chat

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You might like it

warped hedge Jan 29, 2020, 3:16 AM

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ITS SOO GOOD THO GLASS

median moon Jan 29, 2020, 3:16 AM

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VRChat isnt really a game though

random magnet Jan 29, 2020, 3:16 AM

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wanna get a vr headset so bad

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 3:16 AM

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It’s a “game” on steam

median moon Jan 29, 2020, 3:16 AM

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and i cant really play it that well considering my main play area is the living room

radiant garnet Jan 29, 2020, 3:16 AM

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@abstract kite I specifically mentioned on a budget, he replied to that, so yes, this is 'on a budget' :3

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 3:16 AM

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MMM sure okay

warped hedge Jan 29, 2020, 3:16 AM

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id spend the extra for a nice mobo

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better features

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 3:17 AM

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If thats what was implied then alright

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I get ya

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 3:17 AM

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100$ versus 75$ can be a huge difference

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 3:17 AM

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You never want to cheap out on a motherboard though

median moon Jan 29, 2020, 3:17 AM

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$50 = 2070 to 2070S

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 3:17 AM

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that's one of the most essential parts of your system

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 3:17 AM

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You just gotta know what the specs of the motherboard are

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 3:17 AM

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Pretty much anything X570 is good

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 3:17 AM

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I could pay for a small ITX motherboard for 75$ probably

median moon Jan 29, 2020, 3:18 AM

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X570 is mobo meta

warped hedge Jan 29, 2020, 3:18 AM

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X570 God tier PCIE 4.0

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 3:18 AM

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@fleet canopy I'm going to DM you an ITX build that blew my mind.

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 3:18 AM

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But for 100$, I’m paying for a B450 Tomahawk

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Damn good board too

warped hedge Jan 29, 2020, 3:18 AM

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thats a great budget board

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 3:18 AM

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Take a look at that build mayo

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it's insane

median moon Jan 29, 2020, 3:19 AM

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@abstract kite can i see 👁️

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 3:19 AM

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Ye

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just DMed

median moon Jan 29, 2020, 3:19 AM

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no fucken way

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 3:20 AM

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No GPU, but it has the onboard vega graphics. Absolute beast of an HTPC

median moon Jan 29, 2020, 3:20 AM

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dude that's

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 3:20 AM

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Indeed

median moon Jan 29, 2020, 3:20 AM

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amazing

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 3:20 AM

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Fucking bonkers

median moon Jan 29, 2020, 3:20 AM

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my first build, for reference

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KD9Wcq

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 3:21 AM

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Not bad Kek

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 3:21 AM

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I'm copying that build at some point

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so yeet

radiant garnet Jan 29, 2020, 3:21 AM

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Motherboard matters not in performance at all these days. Hence why I think motherboards makes no difference for most users. Cheapest B450 motherboard I can find that has a VRM cooler is $75. Cheapest x570 is $140. $65 is a step up in GPU, something a user can notice. Or going from a 3600x to a 3700x. Something a user might notice. But going from B450 to x570 motherboard? I can't imagine a normal, average user noticing the difference.

median moon Jan 29, 2020, 3:21 AM

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oh

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oh hey also another question

warped hedge Jan 29, 2020, 3:21 AM

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betterv vrms

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clerner power

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better overclocks

median moon Jan 29, 2020, 3:21 AM

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is there a way to get a win10 key on my pc from my laptop

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assuming that it's not OEM

knotty haven Jan 29, 2020, 3:22 AM

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MODS! IN HERE!

median moon Jan 29, 2020, 3:22 AM

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what

radiant garnet Jan 29, 2020, 3:22 AM

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Doesn't matter unless you're overclock, with most doesn't do. And even then, you need a $60+ cooler to make a noticeable difference, and even then you're typically not going much past 10%.

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 3:22 AM

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You might? Gotta have a flash drive I guess

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 3:23 AM

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@radiant garnet I don't know where you're coming from but okay.

Motherboards are a large factor. They are the middleman that powers your system. Specs are crucial

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I've had bad boards

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and good boards

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They matter

warped hedge Jan 29, 2020, 3:23 AM

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every cheep board iv had has failed supper quick

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 3:23 AM

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Don’t pay any lower than 100$ for a B450 Kek

radiant garnet Jan 29, 2020, 3:23 AM

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If you'd said PSU, I would agree! But motherboard? Nope; never had an issue, with my own builds or builds I've done for others.

warped hedge Jan 29, 2020, 3:23 AM

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when i spent good money on one it lasted a really long time

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 3:24 AM

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You are one of the lucky ones @radiant garnet

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You chose good boards apparently

radiant garnet Jan 29, 2020, 3:24 AM

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That said, I'm assuming a 'stock' setup, no overclocking.

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Maybe some 3200MHz ram. Maybe

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 3:24 AM

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There's the caveat though

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no overclocking

radiant garnet Jan 29, 2020, 3:24 AM

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Probably, it's super cheap

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Because there's so little to be gained for most users.

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 3:24 AM

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Granted

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 3:24 AM

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With different boards, you allow for more better overclocking, support better speeds, and can be compatible with so many specs

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 3:25 AM

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My board supports LN2 cooling

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

radiant garnet Jan 29, 2020, 3:25 AM

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Cool! have you ever ran it with LN2 cooling?

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 3:25 AM

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Yes

warped hedge Jan 29, 2020, 3:26 AM

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heres my build spent a lot on the mobo

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nhdMTC

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 3:26 AM

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Wow that’s like overkill!!!

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Nah not too bad

radiant garnet Jan 29, 2020, 3:26 AM

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That's awesome! You're then in the upper 1% of the upper 1% of PC users! A 'true enthusiast' if you'd like!

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 3:26 AM

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Thank you I feel very honored

warped hedge Jan 29, 2020, 3:26 AM

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i want to upgrade my gpu to

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 3:26 AM

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Enthusiastic would eventually use one of those waaaaaay overpriced boards tbh lol

warped hedge Jan 29, 2020, 3:27 AM

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waitn till 3000 series

radiant garnet Jan 29, 2020, 3:27 AM

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To be sure I'm clear; I'm not saying LN2 and other crazy overclocking isn't cool; it's fucking awesome! But it's also 100% irrelevant to 99% of all users.

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 3:27 AM

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Sure, not many use it

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But they get it because it’s got better support for RAM, can be fit in a PC, and looks badass as hell if that’s their thing

warped hedge Jan 29, 2020, 3:29 AM

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i got a intel core i7 7700k to 5.7GHZ on LN2 NUTS wish i had a binned chip tho porb could have gottn 6GHZ

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 3:29 AM

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I’ve not seen other support, aside WiFi, allows support for bigger GPUs if you bought a bigger one, but that’s just blah blah because it only varies for what the board is

median moon Jan 29, 2020, 3:30 AM

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Liquid nitrogen

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FaceThing

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 3:30 AM

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It's pretty fun ngl

radiant garnet Jan 29, 2020, 3:30 AM

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Again, if that's something you can afford, go for it! My argument is that it's counter productive for budgets of $1000 and down, and 'borderline' for builds around $2000

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 3:30 AM

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People who pay for WiFi might not need it right now or soon enough, but they get it to be prepared or if they don’t wanna do some more drilling to get the Ethernet through

warped hedge Jan 29, 2020, 3:30 AM

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if your spending 1K on a build you can get a beast of a mobo

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 3:31 AM

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Yeah

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1000$ is like nothing

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You won’t pass it too easily if you pick out some mid tier stuff, or on sale

warped hedge Jan 29, 2020, 3:32 AM

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Pogey @radiant garnet typing me a nice long email kappa

radiant garnet Jan 29, 2020, 3:33 AM

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1K isn't that much. 300 for GPU, 250ish for CPU, leaving about 450 for the rest. You still want a reasonable PSU, call that 100. That leaves 350 for a case, PSU, MB, RAM, SSD. That's not a lot

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Of those 4, I'd say MB matters the least for the end user, and as such, should get lowest priority.

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 3:33 AM

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You’re forgetting something

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3rd party cpu cooler if CPU doesn’t come with one and 3rd party fans if you need a fan somewhere or didn’t get one that comes with case

radiant garnet Jan 29, 2020, 3:34 AM

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Oh, right, yes, a case is nice.

warped hedge Jan 29, 2020, 3:34 AM

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so you say this is a good mobo https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-ga-a320m-s2h/p/N82E16813145054?&quicklink=true

radiant garnet Jan 29, 2020, 3:36 AM

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It will probably be fine, but I would go with the cheapest B450, X470 or X570 available.

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 3:36 AM

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Wait is that A320

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warped hedge Jan 29, 2020, 3:37 AM

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and this is shit https://www.newegg.com/asus-tuf-gaming-x570-plus/p/N82E16813119197?Description=x570&cm_re=x570-_-13-119-197-_-Product&quicklink=true

radiant garnet Jan 29, 2020, 3:38 AM

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That's not true at all to what I'm saying. I'm arguing that the price difference of 150 between those two boards is not in any reasonable way reflected in performance or features a normal user would notice or care about

red sinew Jan 29, 2020, 3:38 AM

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I heard PC build chat was getting....

warped hedge Jan 29, 2020, 3:39 AM

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to a shop but to the person who is building they want as many features as possible

red sinew Jan 29, 2020, 3:39 AM

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Toxic

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ablobglarezoom

warped hedge Jan 29, 2020, 3:39 AM

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nope

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just having a chat

red sinew Jan 29, 2020, 3:39 AM

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Very good, keep it that way friends.

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 3:40 AM

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@radiant garnet Are you keeping it at 1000 even?

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or are you allowing for a little spill over?

radiant garnet Jan 29, 2020, 3:40 AM

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I'm assuming it's a hard limit at 1000.

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But if it's 1010, that'll be fine; that's easily within 'day to day' variation

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 3:41 AM

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1040?

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that's like 40 over

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not that much

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WnKn8M

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You can fit a good board in a build

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*1050

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Plus it has upgradability

radiant garnet Jan 29, 2020, 3:42 AM

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That's 1077. (no MIBs)

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 3:42 AM

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So the average person isn't going to save money from MIBs?

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That's pulling the strings to fit your ideals

radiant garnet Jan 29, 2020, 3:43 AM

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Considering they're made to be ridiculously difficult to redeem, with the companies operating them talking about how low a 'yield rate' they can get? Nah, not gonna count it it.

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 3:43 AM

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No theyre not

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I've literally redeemed every single one

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I've had

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easily

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When was the last time you redeemed one?

radiant garnet Jan 29, 2020, 3:44 AM

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It's not a thing in norway; we just get regular sales xD

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I've had it described to me from multiple different people, and that's how it's been described to me

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 3:45 AM

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Well I can't help that norway has bad MIBs. Saying that every company (including outside of Norway) has a low 'yield rate' is a large generalization.

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So you have to include it

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because it is an option for most

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If anything, it's subjective.

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To the area

radiant garnet Jan 29, 2020, 3:46 AM

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I wasn't clear enough; MIBs doesn't exist in norway; it's not a thing. Things are either full price, or reduced on-sale price. You don't have to perform extra work to 'redeem' a sales price.

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 3:47 AM

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You're still generalizing based on your country though

radiant garnet Jan 29, 2020, 3:47 AM

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No, I'm generalizing based on my US friend's experience.

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 3:48 AM

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I don't see how they are having issues unless they're doing something wrong.

radiant garnet Jan 29, 2020, 3:48 AM

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In either case; here's what I'd change on that build you posted. No aftermarket CPU cooler, B450 motherboard, and upgrading the GPU from 5700 to 2070 super. The performance difference between them is worth more to an end user than a fancy motherboard

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4vcBhg

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 3:49 AM

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Think about futureproofing though

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X570 supports higher ram speeds

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PCIE 4.0

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Etc

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Potential upgradability to Ryzen 4000

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If not, higher end chips can be supported

radiant garnet Jan 29, 2020, 3:50 AM

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The user won't use that.
PCIe 3.0 x8 isn't bottlenecking any GPUs in game loads.
No user will notice the difference between a 'cheap' M.2 PCIe 3.0 x4 SSD and a PCIe 4.0 x4 when they eventually arive in full.

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 3:51 AM

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By 'no user' you're still making generalizations

radiant garnet Jan 29, 2020, 3:51 AM

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You're paying now for something you might use later. Maybe. By then, there will be cheaper options anyway, so might as well save coin now instead and get a better experience today and until you choose to upgrade

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Yes, I am. I'm not talking about an enthusiast. I'm not talking about an overclocker.

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 3:51 AM

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The majority of people using Ryzen anyway seem to be more in the enthusiast side of things

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I wasn't referring to overclocking either

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Ryzen 3000 has very little headroom

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It's the benefits of the board that you get

radiant garnet Jan 29, 2020, 3:52 AM

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Normal users will consistently not even run the RAM they buy at the rated speeds though... I donno where you get your users, but the ones I've found don't care. They want a tool, if that

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 3:53 AM

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Define 'normal user' then

everyone I know, heavy into PCs or not, will run their ram at the rated speeds.

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it's as simple as enabling XMP for most

radiant garnet Jan 29, 2020, 3:54 AM

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Since someone else mentioned personal builds, here's mine, more or less. Not gonna track down the exact model of everything, but the specs are accurate. Oh, and that motherboard does fit in that case xD
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xNTFK4

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 3:55 AM

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I had a Define S. They're big cases so I believe it

warped hedge Jan 29, 2020, 3:55 AM

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nice high-end motherboard

radiant garnet Jan 29, 2020, 3:56 AM

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A normal user to me is someone that was about to go to 'bigbrand electronics store' and but their recommended 'gaming PC', and you've just barley managed to convince them that the 9900K + nvidia 1030 is a bad buy. So friends and family that aren't really into the 'building' side of things. Their previous computer might've been a sub 600 laptop. That's the user I'm talking about

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The motherboard was the cheapest board that supported 64GB of RAM at the time. That's the only reason I choose it.

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 3:56 AM

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9900K and 1030, hm

radiant garnet Jan 29, 2020, 3:57 AM

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I was running a 920 x58 before that, and 24GB wasn't enough for me.

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 3:57 AM

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Now that’s just being stupid in general for a tech shop lmao

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 3:57 AM

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@radiant garnet And where do they usually end up?

Building their next system and getting into PCs. 8/10 it happens

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What do they get? Better parts and more balanced builds.

dusty pumice Jan 29, 2020, 3:57 AM

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Local stores recommend the craziest shit

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I have seen it all litterally

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 3:58 AM

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Yeah

radiant garnet Jan 29, 2020, 3:58 AM

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Yes, for the next system, sure! Or maybe they'll upgrade the current one. Maybe. But right now they just want the cheapest computer possible that will run GAME X and SETTING Y or whatever.

dusty pumice Jan 29, 2020, 3:58 AM

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But they do overcharge you aswell, cute female oh lets take a look through all these private pictures while we do nothing and charge extra for hours

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 3:58 AM

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But they learn from the mistake that they made.
The same mistake you're practically making for them.

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I don't get your logic here

radiant garnet Jan 29, 2020, 3:59 AM

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If I can convince them that spending $800 for the PC, or about $1000 for a full and complete build is much, much better value than trying to get a full PC for $700, I consider that a win.

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 3:59 AM

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From what you've said, the 'normal user' wants XXX, but eventually XXX fails them, so they end up buying what I've been saying

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 3:59 AM

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Now what the fuck is that on “cute female, let’s commit make overcharge”

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 3:59 AM

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It's come full circle

radiant garnet Jan 29, 2020, 4:00 AM

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No, I'm saying getting their first 'propper' computer might spark an interest in the future. Getting a 'electronics store 'gaming PC'' will not, because it'll be expensive and shit

warped hedge Jan 29, 2020, 4:00 AM

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@fleet canopy @dusty pumice you just got shitty customer service

dusty pumice Jan 29, 2020, 4:00 AM

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@warped hedge Me consumer expierence?

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I havent had that in years

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 4:01 AM

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I’ve never went to microcenter yet

dusty pumice Jan 29, 2020, 4:01 AM

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I hear storys from people yeah, not expierenced any myself

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 4:01 AM

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Nearest one is 1 1/2 hours away

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Also never touching customer service except steam if I do the stupid

dusty pumice Jan 29, 2020, 4:02 AM

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This is the reason why companys and consumers are dumping all their old hardware right now and upgrading off windows 7 @radiant garnet

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 4:02 AM

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Now to remember when I got shit customer service, hm

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Yeah no idea

radiant garnet Jan 29, 2020, 4:04 AM

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Really though, try to make a good computer, including all parts needed, for $1K. You have to make sacrifices to get the parts that matter, like going from a 4c to a 6c CPU. And those sacrifices comes from the less important components, like a motherboard. PSU is too important to go for cheap, so you get something that won't be an issue, and assume a system lifetime of 5-10 years. That's the only 'premium' component.

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So that's the PC itself, screen, mouse, keyboard, some sort of mouse-pad.
I personally try to get at least a IPS panel, and a mechanical keyboard, because that's what you interact with 100% of the time. Though sometimes, I go with a cheap M+K combo. It hurts, but if that's the sacrifice needed to go from a 120GB SSD to a 500GB SSD, then it's worth it, because 120GB isn't enough for a user, and no SSD is a non-starter. Makes the system feel super slow and cheap

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 4:08 AM

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Going from 4 cores to 6 cores

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Sounds easy peasy by going from a 7700K

radiant garnet Jan 29, 2020, 4:14 AM

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Here's what I'd consider to be a very good total system for 1K
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sgcBhg
You could move some things around; a 5600xt might be a better choice here than a 5700, considering how small a difference in performance there is, and then spend the difference on maybe a bigger SSD. But overall, this is what I'd consider to be the 'best bang for buck' type build for 1K, inclusive all.

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 4:15 AM

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I wouldn’t touch the 5700/XT card though, I’ve heard it still needed drivers update to be usable with games still

radiant garnet Jan 29, 2020, 4:16 AM

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That's what I've heard to, but I've heard from others that there's no issue at all, so IDK. Replace it with the equivalent nvidia card if you so desire; price or performance won't change much.

knotty haven Jan 29, 2020, 4:49 AM

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ok boomer

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 5:03 AM

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From a user that has the card it does have Driver Problems.

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Black/Green Screens (Yes I have checked the HDMI/DP). Some games such as Space Engineers will not boot for me and others that are also using this card.

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The XFX 5700s are a little sketch too ngl

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From what I've heard the dual fan cards heat quickly

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The 5700XT's fan is a Jet Fighter

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 5:10 AM

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The 5700XT is the rocket launch

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 5:10 AM

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^^

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The triple fan XFX cards are still good iirc

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They look amazing too

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I'd still personally choose Sapphire, but XFX makes good looking cards.

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Oh not to mention Powercolor

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the Red Devil

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yes

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The 5700XT is a great card for the price but Damn I hate fighting with it sometimes.

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That's fair

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 5:14 AM

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While yeah it’s great, it might not be with people that don’t want to deal with those kind of stuff

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 5:14 AM

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The right end of the XFX THICC III just looks like a thruster out of star wars to me

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fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 5:15 AM

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It looks like the metal thing on the floor, wall and ceiling to let heat in

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It’s a fucking heater oh god

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 5:16 AM

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I'm just waiting for thrust to come out

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 5:16 AM

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Thrust?

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 5:16 AM

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Never mind

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 5:17 AM

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GWczoSayoriDed

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 5:17 AM

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Thrust is a reaction force described quantitatively by Newton's third law. When a system expels or accelerates mass in one direction, the accelerated mass will cause a force of equal magnitude but opposite direction on that system. - Wikipedia

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e.g.

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It looks like a jet engine

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 5:18 AM

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Yeah I know, I thought it was some new card

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 5:18 AM

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You know what GPU I really want to get?

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 5:18 AM

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770

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That’s what

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 5:18 AM

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The 5700XT Waifu Addition.

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What card Galerus?

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 5:18 AM

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The sexy GTX 770

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 5:18 AM

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I'm with you Galerus

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 5:18 AM

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The waifu

median moon Jan 29, 2020, 5:19 AM

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can i get like

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an RTX Titan with komi plastered on it

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 5:19 AM

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You probably could do a custom

median moon Jan 29, 2020, 5:19 AM

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without blowing $5k

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 5:19 AM

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Kromia from VR Chat?

median moon Jan 29, 2020, 5:19 AM

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no

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 5:20 AM

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Gotta find the right person for it

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Komi is some cute anime girl

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Kek

median moon Jan 29, 2020, 5:20 AM

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abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 5:20 AM

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For those that don't know what we're talking about.

Yeston 5700XT

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median moon Jan 29, 2020, 5:20 AM

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her

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@abstract kite yeah but no raytracing

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 5:21 AM

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@median moon More of a collectors piece 😉

median moon Jan 29, 2020, 5:22 AM

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but thats a 5700XT

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why not use it

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 5:22 AM

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Wasn’t there a limited time 5700XT card?

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 5:22 AM

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Exactly

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Then when you upgrade

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put this one up on display LOL

fleet canopy Jan 29, 2020, 5:22 AM

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Kek

median moon Jan 29, 2020, 5:24 AM

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😐

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ok

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 5:24 AM

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The Waifu card is hot garbage compared to the regular one, but hey. Waifu Gotcha

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^

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When the thermals are up there

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you can say it's a hot waifu

median moon Jan 29, 2020, 5:25 AM

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i wonder why

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FFFUlxjcjf

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I WAS GONNA MAKE THAT JOKE

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:(

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 5:25 AM

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hey

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great minds think alike

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😛

median moon Jan 29, 2020, 5:25 AM

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🤗

knotty haven Jan 29, 2020, 5:27 AM

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ok

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lol

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someone told me not to use windows 10

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yea let me just use MAC on a Intel pc

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sure

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using anything but windows 10 or Linunx on a intel/AMD is a disgrace and should commit water pc

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 5:38 AM

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What did they say you should use?

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and for what?

sick reef Jan 29, 2020, 5:39 AM

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Macs are Intel PC's.

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Apart from some tomfoolery they do to stop people creating their own.

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 5:40 AM

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Hackintoshes are fun to make though

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It's like "Take that Apple! I made something better than your Mac Pro for cheaper!"

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Then you just have to buy their retina display 🤣

sick reef Jan 29, 2020, 5:41 AM

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Not really.

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Ain't 2012 anymore.

knotty haven Jan 29, 2020, 5:41 AM

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they told me to use Macs OS

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lol

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i was like linux..?

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@abstract kite get out my dms hoe

sick reef Jan 29, 2020, 5:41 AM

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Would be stupid to simply "get" Mac OS.

knotty haven Jan 29, 2020, 5:42 AM

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i mean if im building a pc for windows 10 ima stick wit me

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 5:42 AM

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@sick reef Dual booting 🤔

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I want that Apple Stand that is $1,000

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Apple OS is based off of unix anyway

sick reef Jan 29, 2020, 5:43 AM

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Yeah, but that's not what I'm talking about.

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 5:43 AM

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I agree simply buying all the parts for Apple is a bit dumb

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So dual booting is a better idea

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I prefer VMs over dual booting personally

sick reef Jan 29, 2020, 5:44 AM

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Or just go Linux to get the same GUI, or just not.

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 5:44 AM

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True, but some of the applications people buy Apple products for arent supported on Linux distros

knotty haven Jan 29, 2020, 5:44 AM

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@abstract kite get out my DM bitch

sick reef Jan 29, 2020, 5:45 AM

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Yeah, just don't get those.

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 5:45 AM

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@knotty haven No witch hunting

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or calling out please

knotty haven Jan 29, 2020, 5:45 AM

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He is in my DMS

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XD

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 5:45 AM

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Then just dont respond

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or block

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what is wrong with this person

knotty haven Jan 29, 2020, 5:45 AM

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ill bleck

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 5:45 AM

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There's no need to call them out in chat

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Bro I just want to fuck you

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What happened to the tech channel tonight

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I don’t see the problem

knotty haven Jan 29, 2020, 5:46 AM

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i dont ilke furry traps

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 5:46 AM

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lol

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that’s fucked up

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Keep it civil and do not make personal attacks or use offensive language in addressing others. Absolutely no harassment, witch hunting, sexism, racism or hate speech will be tolerated. Furthermore, discussions regarding politics, religion, sex, or the like will be removed.

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Thank you

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yeah tbh

remote horizon Jan 29, 2020, 5:47 AM

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Don't pollute the sanctuary that is our tech channel PandaAngelWings

knotty haven Jan 29, 2020, 5:48 AM

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fuck the sanc

abstract kite Jan 29, 2020, 5:48 AM

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No problem ❤️