#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk | GTFO | Page 65

hard crag Jan 27, 2020, 12:20 AM

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Okay so basically when you plug the USB and go to the boot menu you should see
UEFI: [USB Device Name] and USB Device Name

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Boot from the none UEFI one

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Just to clarify this is after enabling Legacy Boot

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When you boot off the device test the live version of Ubuntu

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If it works you're good to go with the installation

solemn orchid Jan 27, 2020, 12:21 AM

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when you say live version, what do you mean?

hard crag Jan 27, 2020, 12:22 AM

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Nearly every Linux ISO comes with a Live Version you can run straight from the USB or Disc

solemn orchid Jan 27, 2020, 12:22 AM

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ah

hard crag Jan 27, 2020, 12:22 AM

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I know Ubuntu specifically does

solemn orchid Jan 27, 2020, 12:22 AM

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and once I get the live version up and running, I can partition the rest of my drives to it as well?

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once I install it

hard crag Jan 27, 2020, 12:23 AM

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When you run the Live Version and you know that its working fine, reboot off the USB again and choose the Install option

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The Live Boot is just to make sure your device is working properly and that you're good to install

solemn orchid Jan 27, 2020, 12:24 AM

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alright

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thanks, I'll give that a go

hard crag Jan 27, 2020, 12:24 AM

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No problem

solemn orchid Jan 27, 2020, 12:30 AM

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Do I still go into UEFI settings to boot using legacy mode?

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Or do I need to go to my bios directly and change boot order @hard crag

hard crag Jan 27, 2020, 12:32 AM

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@solemn orchid Hmm, you should be able to do it from BIOS.

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In your bios there should be a setting to allow Legacy Mode Booting

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You dont need to use the Windows settings

solemn orchid Jan 27, 2020, 12:33 AM

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SHEIT

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Thanks man

hard crag Jan 27, 2020, 12:33 AM

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no problems dude

solemn orchid Jan 27, 2020, 12:33 AM

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Ah fuck me are you serious

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It stopped outputting immediately after that

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@hard crag HELP lol

hard crag Jan 27, 2020, 12:34 AM

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lol give it a second. You are running a USB version

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it needs time to gather drivers for your hardware

solemn orchid Jan 27, 2020, 12:35 AM

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Alrigh

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Still black

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I'll give it a few mins

hard crag Jan 27, 2020, 12:35 AM

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lol it takes time dude. You are running it from Legacy Boot right ?

solemn orchid Jan 27, 2020, 12:35 AM

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I am

hard crag Jan 27, 2020, 12:35 AM

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Then yeah just let it gather the drivers for your hardware

solemn orchid Jan 27, 2020, 12:36 AM

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May be a while lmao, I got a lot of hardware connected

hard crag Jan 27, 2020, 12:36 AM

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nah shouldnt take more that 2mins

solemn orchid Jan 27, 2020, 12:36 AM

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Thanks for the help, seriously, I appreciate it

hard crag Jan 27, 2020, 12:36 AM

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its cool man

solemn orchid Jan 27, 2020, 12:36 AM

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I've been at this for hours

hard crag Jan 27, 2020, 12:36 AM

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I would recommend learning about Linux though before you start playing with it

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and btw make sure to install the Grub Bootloader on the Partition with your Linux Distro

solemn orchid Jan 27, 2020, 12:37 AM

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I have ubuntu on my laptop, I'm familiar with the OS, it's just that the installation process was pretty much instant before

hard crag Jan 27, 2020, 12:37 AM

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yeah i get ya

solemn orchid Jan 27, 2020, 12:38 AM

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Yeah I still got nothin here

hard crag Jan 27, 2020, 12:39 AM

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hmm.. this may be weird but try typing or moving the mouse. Sometimes it will go into powersave mode early

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if that didnt work im not sure what it could be

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Did you have 2 boot methods for the USB when you were in the boot menu ?

solemn orchid Jan 27, 2020, 12:41 AM

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Nah, it only showed up in legacy

hard crag Jan 27, 2020, 12:41 AM

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I mean in the Legacy Boot Menu, did say UEFI: USB Device and USB Device or just 1 USB Device ?

solemn orchid Jan 27, 2020, 12:42 AM

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Just Sandisk

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Like, literally just "sandisk"

hard crag Jan 27, 2020, 12:42 AM

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Weird.

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Could try another USB Port

solemn orchid Jan 27, 2020, 12:43 AM

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I'm trying with solus now, seeing if I can get anywhere

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And I'll try one of my front 3.0 headers instead of through a hub

hard crag Jan 27, 2020, 12:43 AM

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That could be a issue.

solemn orchid Jan 27, 2020, 12:43 AM

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Agreed

solemn orchid Jan 27, 2020, 1:02 AM

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@hard crag I'm installing PopOS, a version of Ubuntu since it better suits my needs than solus

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now that I have legacy boot, everything seems in working order

hard crag Jan 27, 2020, 1:03 AM

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I mean honestly I would just install Debian and then install the tools I need

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Debian has better support than most

solemn orchid Jan 27, 2020, 1:03 AM

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thanks man, I really appreciate the help, I wouldn't have thought to enable it without your help 😄

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hm, I'll look into debian

hard crag Jan 27, 2020, 1:03 AM

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lmao its cool

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have fun with the new distro

solemn orchid Jan 27, 2020, 1:03 AM

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I already have the debian ISO, but I had issues installing it earlier

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I'll give it another go and see how I like it now that I have legacy boot and it should be working alright

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also, I found etcher

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and I love it way more than rufus

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the interface is much cleaner and it's super quick and simple

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plus it's permanently free

hard crag Jan 27, 2020, 1:08 AM

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@solemn orchid Etcher is the best way to make Bootable USB

solemn orchid Jan 27, 2020, 1:08 AM

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Yeye, I can see that

hard crag Jan 27, 2020, 1:08 AM

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Its way more reliable and more lightweight than anything else

solemn orchid Jan 27, 2020, 1:08 AM

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Attempting boot now

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well I take that back

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I'm using rufus again

hard crag Jan 27, 2020, 1:12 AM

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lmao why ?

solemn orchid Jan 27, 2020, 1:12 AM

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etcher somehow made it so that the drive was no longer readable at all

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uefi or otherwise

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I had to go in and delete the partition it made to have it be readable again

hard crag Jan 27, 2020, 1:12 AM

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Did you format the USB before you burned the ISO ?

solemn orchid Jan 27, 2020, 1:13 AM

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well now I feel retarded but doesn't it do that in the flashing process?

hard crag Jan 27, 2020, 1:13 AM

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Its just safer to do so

solemn orchid Jan 27, 2020, 1:13 AM

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alright

tacit river Jan 27, 2020, 1:43 AM

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Debian only ship with free firmware

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There are isos that include non-free firmware

rancid kindle Jan 27, 2020, 2:39 AM

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Welp, same problem. Just to recap: tried to replace stock cpu cooler with new one, did so rather uncarefully, now nothing turns on except my keyboard lights

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Should i take it apart and rebuild it?

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Found this 12v input 416 cord

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Any idea where it goes?

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Or if its important?

abstract kite Jan 27, 2020, 3:47 AM

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People posting their setups?

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Mine's piss-poor and sad

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Need a job.

fleet canopy Jan 27, 2020, 3:47 AM

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Hm

abstract kite Jan 27, 2020, 3:47 AM

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HM

fleet canopy Jan 27, 2020, 3:47 AM

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Mine has piss poor cable management

abstract kite Jan 27, 2020, 3:47 AM

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Mine has piss poor everything

fleet canopy Jan 27, 2020, 3:48 AM

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Piss poor uhhh

abstract kite Jan 27, 2020, 3:48 AM

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even the case is like, a second hand used dell shite

fleet canopy Jan 27, 2020, 3:48 AM

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Hm

abstract kite Jan 27, 2020, 3:48 AM

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Still can run space engineers

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and gta v on medium i guess

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So it's not too bad?

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Specs are basically AMD A8-7600, GTX 970

fleet canopy Jan 27, 2020, 3:49 AM

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Oh that's not bad

abstract kite Jan 27, 2020, 3:49 AM

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Motherboard is second-hand used and 8gb

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It's old, and can use an upgrade.

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Would really like a Velka-case

fleet canopy Jan 27, 2020, 3:51 AM

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Hm, that's not bad

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But could do a sleeper build

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:)

vapid crypt Jan 27, 2020, 3:56 AM

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Is that an AM4 bristol ridge chip?

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Oh no its FM2 phaSheva

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@rancid kindle Looking it up that's for powering the RGB strip and fan controller

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Its a Phanteks case right?

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Cause the p400 comes with an led strip

rancid kindle Jan 27, 2020, 4:01 AM

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Yeah

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Im just gonna

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Take it to the shop

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My fried works there so he can get me a discount

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Friend*. I don't want to mess anything else up

vapid crypt Jan 27, 2020, 4:02 AM

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I'm sorry you ran into complications

rancid kindle Jan 27, 2020, 4:02 AM

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🤷🏻‍♂️

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Was definitely my fault

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I wasn't being as careful

vapid crypt Jan 27, 2020, 4:03 AM

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I kinda made the suggestion to upgrade the cooling, so uh yeah ReversedConfusedUlf

rancid kindle Jan 27, 2020, 4:03 AM

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As i should've

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Nah dw, maybe i can get them to put in the new cooler while they fix it

vapid crypt Jan 27, 2020, 4:46 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDyP9nDw_q0

naive shore Jan 27, 2020, 9:02 AM

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Can anyone suggest me a 6pin VCARD pairing with a8-7600k

vapid crypt Jan 27, 2020, 10:31 AM

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What are you using now, or are you just using the on board graphics?

frank star Jan 27, 2020, 12:40 PM

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Ey so i bought this thermaltake PWM fan hub and its telling me to connect the main PWM fan first but how do i know which is my main one?

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urban gulch Jan 27, 2020, 12:44 PM

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probably the biggest one or the first one in the row

frank star Jan 27, 2020, 12:48 PM

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I have 6 120fans tho

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sick reef Jan 27, 2020, 3:08 PM

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Main PWM fan? It only reads from one, or it only gives one signal to all fans?

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Or both

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I'll read the manual for it when I get home to see.

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I remember a lot of fan hubs being fucky.

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At least from known brands.

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But buying fan hubs from those who sell their own small boards paid off.

pallid cedar Jan 27, 2020, 4:16 PM

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main PWM fan connector is the cable that runs from the hub to the MOBO if I'm not mistaken

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fans plug into the other side of the hub

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or not. hmmm

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ah, the glossy port is essentially just the lead fan that all other fans follow the settings of

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so if all the fans are the same, it doesn't matter which is your "lead" fan

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my guess is that hub doesn't allow for individual settings amongst fans connected to it

sharp crane Jan 27, 2020, 4:36 PM

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tooks this

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and these and swaped speak bodies and connected both and turned up the bass

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sick reef Jan 27, 2020, 4:41 PM

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I dunno. I prefer if I am to have PWM for it to actually matter. Now I have 3 pin, and I can control the fans in groups. Apart from one.

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But that fan I need another solution for.

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Doesn't make it easier that it pulls 1.3A

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Yeah it only pulls RPM from the Glossy connector.

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Apart from being only PWM, when I looked at controllers, this was way too common.

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It's practically a mining hub, not a fan hub.

sharp crane Jan 27, 2020, 4:50 PM

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Excuse the mess

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Instand audio /bass boost

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Before

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After

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sharp crane Jan 27, 2020, 5:31 PM

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jade ermine Jan 27, 2020, 6:21 PM

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last clip good ear rape

sharp crane Jan 27, 2020, 6:21 PM

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yea sorry to many vids sorry i dont have nitro

brazen spire Jan 27, 2020, 6:34 PM

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please dont post trash like this its not the place

waxen orchid Jan 27, 2020, 6:40 PM

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That doesnt sound good

abstract kite Jan 27, 2020, 7:54 PM

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Quick question guys. Can a Ryzen 7 2700x be mounted on a 32-Bit Motherboard? All I know is that the Base Board Product is 2AF7

tacit river Jan 27, 2020, 8:03 PM

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I don't think so but that's with like 2 minutes of googling

vapid crypt Jan 27, 2020, 8:03 PM

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I didn't know there was a distinction with motherboards like that tbh phaSheva

abstract kite Jan 27, 2020, 8:04 PM

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@abstract kite Whats the motherboard chipset

tacit river Jan 27, 2020, 8:04 PM

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But the cpu was released in 2018 why would you want to limit yourself to x32

abstract kite Jan 27, 2020, 8:05 PM

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^

vapid crypt Jan 27, 2020, 8:05 PM

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Searching "2AF7" brings up an HP OEM board; but its an intel board H87 so...

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Uh I mean I dunno if that's accurate

abstract kite Jan 27, 2020, 8:06 PM

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Nevermind I figured out tha

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I cannot use a AMD Chip in a Intel mainboard that is 6 generations old.

tacit river Jan 27, 2020, 8:07 PM

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Yeah different pin count and speeds

vapid crypt Jan 27, 2020, 8:07 PM

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Let alone PGA vs LGA

abstract kite Jan 27, 2020, 8:07 PM

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If you are wondering the Mainboard is a 2AF7 by Hewlett Packard

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So I am just gonna get a B450 Tomahawk motherboard.

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@abstract kite Intel and AMD are 🙅

tacit river Jan 27, 2020, 8:08 PM

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Make sure it's compatible

abstract kite Jan 27, 2020, 8:08 PM

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It is.

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I am using it right now.

vapid crypt Jan 27, 2020, 8:09 PM

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What are you doing exactly?

abstract kite Jan 27, 2020, 8:09 PM

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With a Ryzen 7 3700x

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I am making another build.

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Well for someone else.

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Tomahawk is the bread and butter b450

vapid crypt Jan 27, 2020, 8:09 PM

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That is pretty much the go-to b450, Gaming Pro Carbon if you want some extra bling phaWesker

abstract kite Jan 27, 2020, 8:10 PM

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Tomahawk is getting an X570 variant

vapid crypt Jan 27, 2020, 8:10 PM

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They didn't make a max variant of that

abstract kite Jan 27, 2020, 8:10 PM

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I’m curious to see how it performs as a X570

vapid crypt Jan 27, 2020, 8:10 PM

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Yeah I think next month

abstract kite Jan 27, 2020, 8:11 PM

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Wonder if it’s going to take the place as my budget recommended X570 board over the ASUS TUF

vapid crypt Jan 27, 2020, 8:11 PM

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It'll be a solid 230+ board or something. They never said how much it would be just that it would be over 200

abstract kite Jan 27, 2020, 8:11 PM

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Another question...

vapid crypt Jan 27, 2020, 8:11 PM

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Should be better than the Gaming Pro Carbon X570

abstract kite Jan 27, 2020, 8:11 PM

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So I am looking as the 2070 Supers and I see some that are worth less than others, are they worth it?

vapid crypt Jan 27, 2020, 8:11 PM

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Eh it depends

abstract kite Jan 27, 2020, 8:11 PM

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Is there any bad differences?

tacit river Jan 27, 2020, 8:12 PM

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Just get a 1080ti and call it a day

abstract kite Jan 27, 2020, 8:12 PM

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1080 Titan?

vapid crypt Jan 27, 2020, 8:12 PM

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Uh what? phaWesker

abstract kite Jan 27, 2020, 8:12 PM

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For $19,000?

tacit river Jan 27, 2020, 8:13 PM

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https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/10series/geforce-gtx-1080-ti/

abstract kite Jan 27, 2020, 8:13 PM

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Kek

vapid crypt Jan 27, 2020, 8:13 PM

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Why did you search Titan?

abstract kite Jan 27, 2020, 8:13 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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This is all new stuff to me

vapid crypt Jan 27, 2020, 8:14 PM

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1080 TI was the flagship last generation video card from Nvidia, technically it was a higher clocked cut down Titan Xp

abstract kite Jan 27, 2020, 8:14 PM

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@abstract kite Brands I would look at for a 2070 Super are EVGA, ASUS, and MSI

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You cant really go wrong with any of those

vapid crypt Jan 27, 2020, 8:15 PM

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The 2070 Super is about on par in rasterization performance

abstract kite Jan 27, 2020, 8:16 PM

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Also the 1080ti is not the Titan

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Two different cards

vapid crypt Jan 27, 2020, 8:16 PM

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Only different in marketing tbh PirateSimon

abstract kite Jan 27, 2020, 8:16 PM

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^

mild tangle Jan 27, 2020, 8:16 PM

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@abstract kite that's a GPU accelerator its built for a different task

abstract kite Jan 27, 2020, 8:17 PM

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ThinkingDiscordBlob

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So say for Gaming and Rendering?

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Like with maya

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Blender

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Ect

mild tangle Jan 27, 2020, 8:17 PM

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mostly workstation or large calculation type stuff. if you tried to game on it probably would be like a 710

abstract kite Jan 27, 2020, 8:17 PM

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Just noticed that the RTX 4000 is about the same price as a 2070 but its got lower clock speeds. Kinda neat but really only for workstations

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@abstract kite For Maya and Blender a 2070 would suffice

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It produces 8-bit color iirc

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If thats what its called

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I’m not super deep into the details of GPUs

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I’m a motherboard/CPU guy lol

vapid crypt Jan 27, 2020, 8:19 PM

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But are you Buildzoid level?

mild tangle Jan 27, 2020, 8:19 PM

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the Tesla products target the high-performance computing market. As of 2012, Nvidia Teslas power some of the world's fastest supercomputers,

abstract kite Jan 27, 2020, 8:20 PM

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@vapid crypt I am a buildzoid shill 😛

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Let me just build a super computer real quick LUL

mild tangle Jan 27, 2020, 8:20 PM

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lol for the price of a RTX 4000 might as well get a 2080

vapid crypt Jan 27, 2020, 8:20 PM

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Well yeah you wouldn't get it for games phaWesker

abstract kite Jan 27, 2020, 8:21 PM

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RTX 4000 can produce higher 10-bit color to my knowledge. 2080 still only produces 8-bit

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So for solely a workstation it makes sense

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for a workstation + gaming as well, RTX 2070/2080

mild tangle Jan 27, 2020, 8:21 PM

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I think Nvidia needs to work on there acronym's tbh

abstract kite Jan 27, 2020, 8:21 PM

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AMD does too lol

mild tangle Jan 27, 2020, 8:22 PM

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you can still do 10 bit on any video card your monitor just needs to support it

vapid crypt Jan 27, 2020, 8:23 PM

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They've gotten better since the mid 2010s where they segmented everything using R3 R5 R7 and R9 it just got confusing with the videocards

abstract kite Jan 27, 2020, 8:23 PM

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I think Nvidia needs to drop their fucking prices

mild tangle Jan 27, 2020, 8:23 PM

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like for example this monitor supports 10 bit or (8 Bit Plus FRC) which mimics it

abstract kite Jan 27, 2020, 8:23 PM

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@mild tangle Yes and no.

NVIDIA does it like this:

All their reasonably-recent hardware support 10bit for full screen gaming.

However, when running productivity applications like Photoshop or Premiere, drivers disallow 10bit output unless you are running a Quadro card. This is purely a "software lockout".

So, you have to get a Quadro. Not sure if the option mentioned works, but in theory it might - with Quadro card present (even a really bad one) with relevant drivers and monitor attached to the Quadro card, the "software lockout" should not be a factor. You should in theory still be able to render using the GeForce also present in the system.

from a previous discussion I had about this somewhere else

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Damn boi

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@abstract kite The EVGA XC Ultra is a good cooler

vapid crypt Jan 27, 2020, 8:26 PM

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So the performance of the higher priced card is only gonna be so much better. The FTW3 Ultra+ is EVGA's high end air cooler, like it'll boost a bit higher and allow better OC; but it likely isn't worth the premium

mild tangle Jan 27, 2020, 8:26 PM

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that's fair but i mean just to have 10 bit color for everything but certain software. unless your in the industry and need those extra colors to see a better spectrum along with having the monitor with the color accuracy to even see those 1.07 billions colors lol

abstract kite Jan 27, 2020, 8:27 PM

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Thats true

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So in @abstract kite’s scenario, I would just get a 2070 Super

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Imho

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Not a Super?

quick turtle Jan 27, 2020, 8:28 PM

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isnt the 2070 super basically a 2080

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kekw

abstract kite Jan 27, 2020, 8:29 PM

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More or less

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@abstract kite Yes yes a Super

vapid crypt Jan 27, 2020, 8:29 PM

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Its a 2080 ~5%

abstract kite Jan 27, 2020, 8:29 PM

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^

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A 2070 Super* is a fantastic card

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for your use case

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So you think https://www.newegg.com/evga-geforce-rtx-2070-super-08g-p4-3175-kr/p/N82E16814487477?Description=EVGA XC Ultra&cm_re=EVGA_XC_Ultra-_-14-487-477-_-Product Muppy?

vapid crypt Jan 27, 2020, 8:31 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/evga-geforce-rtx-2070-super-08g-p4-3173-kr/p/N82E16814487453

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That one, it has a 20 dollar promo as well

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Oh shit

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I just realized that one is triple slot phaWesker

abstract kite Jan 27, 2020, 8:32 PM

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Hands down

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Good cooler

vapid crypt Jan 27, 2020, 8:32 PM

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I dunno if that's reasonable

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The triple slot I mean

abstract kite Jan 27, 2020, 8:32 PM

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Bigass heatsink

vapid crypt Jan 27, 2020, 8:32 PM

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Sure, i mean in terms of space

quick turtle Jan 27, 2020, 8:32 PM

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i have the card its big as shit

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so how would you think a 2080 ti fare in this game?>

vapid crypt Jan 27, 2020, 8:33 PM

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No idea, as I do not own one phaWesker

quick turtle Jan 27, 2020, 8:33 PM

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mine doesnt like this game

vapid crypt Jan 27, 2020, 8:34 PM

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What do you mean?

quick turtle Jan 27, 2020, 8:34 PM

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fps drops and other things, focken 70 fps kekw

vapid crypt Jan 27, 2020, 8:35 PM

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In what, 4k?

quick turtle Jan 27, 2020, 8:35 PM

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i dont run 4k

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1080

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p

vapid crypt Jan 27, 2020, 8:35 PM

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ConfusedUlf

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Well what CPU are you using?

quick turtle Jan 27, 2020, 8:36 PM

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ryzen 7 3800x

vapid crypt Jan 27, 2020, 8:37 PM

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Its not 70 constantly right, That's like your 1% low

quick turtle Jan 27, 2020, 8:37 PM

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no its 70 fps most of the time

vapid crypt Jan 27, 2020, 8:37 PM

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Yeah that's weird, cause that's about my framerate using an Rx 580

quick turtle Jan 27, 2020, 8:37 PM

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i just thought it was weird this game just doesnt like my pc

vapid crypt Jan 27, 2020, 8:38 PM

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Have you updated drivers?

quick turtle Jan 27, 2020, 8:39 PM

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oh- im sorry! my phone auto corrected to 2080 ti, lmfao i have a 2080 super.

vapid crypt Jan 27, 2020, 8:39 PM

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I mean... close enough phaWesker

quick turtle Jan 27, 2020, 8:39 PM

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basically

vapid crypt Jan 27, 2020, 8:39 PM

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Its like what... 10% 15% slower

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Still should be running better than that

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I think there might be a bug where some systems perform better in Exclusive Fullscreen

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I remember them saying it was patched, but who knows

abstract kite Jan 27, 2020, 8:40 PM

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@abstract kite If you want a two slot card, this is a good one too https://www.newegg.com/msi-geforce-rtx-2070-super-rtx-2070-super-gaming-x/p/N82E16814137445

quick turtle Jan 27, 2020, 8:42 PM

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i ran out of money so im stuck with 1080p monitors lol, until my next birthday!

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kekw

vapid crypt Jan 27, 2020, 8:42 PM

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What did you upgrade from?

quick turtle Jan 27, 2020, 8:43 PM

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1060 6gb, ryzen 5 1400

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i had the ryzen 5 1400 powering the 2080 super for awhile was not a good experience lmfao

vapid crypt Jan 27, 2020, 8:44 PM

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Uh oh... uh

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Yeah that's not really the smartest thing phaWesker

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Min maxing doesn

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Doesn't usually work in pcs

quick turtle Jan 27, 2020, 8:44 PM

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i chose to upgrade graphics card first

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near xmas was when i got it

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then on the day after i got the cpu

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the new one

vapid crypt Jan 27, 2020, 8:45 PM

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Tbh, the cpu would have been better to upgrade since you're still running 1080p

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1060 does fine at that resolution

quick turtle Jan 27, 2020, 8:45 PM

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i have so much power

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but no monitors

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that run above 1080p

vapid crypt Jan 27, 2020, 8:45 PM

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Also I forgot to ask if V-sync is enabled in your game

quick turtle Jan 27, 2020, 8:46 PM

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No

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i turn it off in every game

vapid crypt Jan 27, 2020, 8:46 PM

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Try playing with the fullscreen settings, cause like I said there was mention of a bug that for some reason causes Exclusivefullscreen to perform better

quick turtle Jan 27, 2020, 8:46 PM

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okay

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thanks.

abstract kite Jan 27, 2020, 8:50 PM

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I want to get a 4k monitor

sick reef Jan 27, 2020, 9:14 PM

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People seem to want to want that, and I myself don't fully get it.

steady socket Jan 27, 2020, 9:31 PM

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I’m running a Gtx 1070 8gigs OC to 2000mhz with and a i7 3930k cpu at 4.3ghz and I get 120 frames at 2k with a refresh rate of 120, I’m on all high with ssao on and anti on max. I have no issues running this game with my set up

trail lagoon Jan 27, 2020, 9:56 PM

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will i get 60fps on lowest settings with i5 4770k, GTX 770 (2gb vram) and 8 gb of ram? i can run it even on console peasant resolution
Im about to buy the game, but if my config won't run it, then there's no point

analog fossil Jan 27, 2020, 9:57 PM

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@BearzOhMy Sorry for late response lol. The 1st edition Enermax coolers were known for build up issues. The second edition (with RGB) had improvements to prevent that!

steady socket Jan 27, 2020, 10:24 PM

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@trail lagoon you’re gpu seems like it might struggle. On low you should be okay. Even if you get like 40 to 60 FPS you’ll be okay

trail lagoon Jan 27, 2020, 10:26 PM

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well, i can go down with the resolution, just to get those sweet 60 fps

dense wasp Jan 27, 2020, 10:26 PM

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Yeah the gpu would be the struggling a bit most likely

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Wouldn’t be able to guarantee a solid 60 there with a straight face

trail lagoon Jan 27, 2020, 10:27 PM

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but i know it's EA, so the optimization isn't the 1st priority i guess

dense wasp Jan 27, 2020, 10:28 PM

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That card is getting a bit old as well thou 😅

steady socket Jan 27, 2020, 10:28 PM

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Now a days you can get a 1070 or 1060 for cheap

dense wasp Jan 27, 2020, 10:28 PM

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But yeah, that’s for sure a thing, being ea etc

trail lagoon Jan 27, 2020, 10:29 PM

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there's no point in upgrading my PC as it is rn

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to change CPU i'd have to change MOBO as well

steady socket Jan 27, 2020, 10:29 PM

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True, all ways good to start when you have the money to. Always buy you’re needs first tho so

trail lagoon Jan 27, 2020, 10:29 PM

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if i'd change only the GPU then CPU will be bottlenecking

dense wasp Jan 27, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Life of a pc user 😅

steady socket Jan 27, 2020, 10:30 PM

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It’s a ruff one man, gotta keep the wife happy

trail lagoon Jan 27, 2020, 10:30 PM

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i've already got a case, haha

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bought it at the end of the year, thought about getting cpu, but i was feeling that smth might change

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and then AMD released threadripper 3rd gen

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so case was the safest bet i guess

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along with PSU maybe

north bronze Jan 27, 2020, 10:33 PM

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apparently the 3000 series are gonna be cheaper than the rtx 2000 series somehow, I hope that rumor is true, I really want to get a beefy gpu for my VR dev dreams mmLul

dense wasp Jan 27, 2020, 10:34 PM

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I would probably get a newer gpu as the first thing in your case, cpu should hold up fairly well still ?

The new ryzens are nice thou

north bronze Jan 27, 2020, 10:34 PM

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game runs fine here on a Ryzen 3700X and a 1060 3GB

dense wasp Jan 27, 2020, 10:34 PM

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Building some builds with them at the office soon

north bronze Jan 27, 2020, 10:34 PM

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The only thing I'm going to change with my 3700X is the cooler

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stock is nice but god I hate the noise

dense wasp Jan 27, 2020, 10:34 PM

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Ah yeah, can’t stand stock fans

north bronze Jan 27, 2020, 10:35 PM

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gonna go with a dark rock pro 4 probs

steady socket Jan 27, 2020, 10:35 PM

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3000 series?

dense wasp Jan 27, 2020, 10:35 PM

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I’m a noctua guy, hehe

north bronze Jan 27, 2020, 10:36 PM

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The next line of nvidia gpus

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apparently called the RTX 3000 Series

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So I guess we'll be getting the same deal as the 2000s, probs a 3060, 3070, 3080 and Ti etc

dense wasp Jan 27, 2020, 10:36 PM

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Most likely

steady socket Jan 27, 2020, 10:37 PM

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But is it consumer grade?

north bronze Jan 27, 2020, 10:37 PM

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Yeeeee

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if a rumor is true, the 3070/3080Ti will be cheaper than the 2070/2080Ti

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I wanna believe that buuuuut I doubt it

dense wasp Jan 27, 2020, 10:37 PM

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Will be interesting to see if amd can release their higher end gpu and press those prices down a bit

steady socket Jan 27, 2020, 10:37 PM

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What

north bronze Jan 27, 2020, 10:37 PM

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AMD's gonna release new GPUs too but I don't think I'll go with them, the driver issues are scaring me off

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I hope the 3000s release will lower the 2000s prices a bit

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along with AMD's release to accentuate that

steady socket Jan 27, 2020, 10:38 PM

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So I’m gonna have to do some research

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I’m gonna assume for now that 3000 isn’t as good as rtx? If it’s cheaper

north bronze Jan 27, 2020, 10:38 PM

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it'll be RTX

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them being cheaper is just a rumor keep in mind

steady socket Jan 27, 2020, 10:39 PM

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Ahh

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Understood

north bronze Jan 27, 2020, 10:39 PM

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and also you know the current GPU prices are pretty damn expensive, I hope it doesn't become the trend

jade ermine Jan 27, 2020, 10:39 PM

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we can hope hehe

dense wasp Jan 27, 2020, 10:39 PM

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They probably won’t dare charrging so much since amd also is rumored to have new GPU in the higher end out

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Will be interesting thou

steady socket Jan 27, 2020, 10:39 PM

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Well if I just hope one of them gets cheaper, would like to get rid of my 1070

north bronze Jan 27, 2020, 10:39 PM

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I mostly wanna see VR performance since it's why I'm gonna get a new GPU

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and driver stability

jade ermine Jan 27, 2020, 10:40 PM

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amd 1080Ti competitor 2020😄

dense wasp Jan 27, 2020, 10:40 PM

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I have a Vega 64x, haha

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I’m the only one I know who has one

steady socket Jan 27, 2020, 10:40 PM

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Lol

jade ermine Jan 27, 2020, 10:41 PM

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vega64 has aged well. I remember at release reviews it was slower than 1080, now its faster

dense wasp Jan 27, 2020, 10:41 PM

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It’s like a 1080 yeah

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I got it for free so I’m not complaining thou

steady socket Jan 27, 2020, 10:41 PM

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Lmao

dense wasp Jan 27, 2020, 10:41 PM

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Perks of being a game dev I guess

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Free shit, haha

steady socket Jan 27, 2020, 10:42 PM

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What engine is gtfo? If I can ask

north bronze Jan 27, 2020, 10:42 PM

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Guess I'll look up to that mmLul

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Unity

dense wasp Jan 27, 2020, 10:42 PM

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^ correct

steady socket Jan 27, 2020, 10:46 PM

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I’m gonna attempt to do c1 solo. Thanks for the amazing game btw. Good luck on future pc building.

dense wasp Jan 27, 2020, 10:47 PM

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Thanks! and good luck, you’re going to need it!

brisk badger Jan 27, 2020, 11:21 PM

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https://cacheoutattack.com

🙄

abstract kite Jan 27, 2020, 11:27 PM

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should upcoming RTX 3080 be able to run GTFO on 240 fps XD max settings?

fleet canopy Jan 27, 2020, 11:28 PM

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9900K and 2080 Ti man play GTFO, got bad frames but didn’t list resolution. That damned person

abstract kite Jan 27, 2020, 11:29 PM

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hmm

median moon Jan 27, 2020, 11:29 PM

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9900K and 2080Ti?

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good god

abstract kite Jan 27, 2020, 11:29 PM

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xD

fleet canopy Jan 27, 2020, 11:30 PM

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Probably was 4K

abstract kite Jan 27, 2020, 11:30 PM

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how much do people get fps at 1080p

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in gtfo

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with 2080ti + 9900k

fleet canopy Jan 27, 2020, 11:32 PM

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No one said it yet

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It’s a powerful combo though, so it has to be way fast

abstract kite Jan 27, 2020, 11:33 PM

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you suspect 240 fps

fleet canopy Jan 27, 2020, 11:34 PM

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That should be what it hits. But GTFO isn’t too much like R6S or CSGO imo

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It may be optimized, but still needs more work for Nvidia cards

abstract kite Jan 27, 2020, 11:34 PM

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im going yolo tbh

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with my new build

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9900k + 3080ti

carmine elk Jan 27, 2020, 11:34 PM

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what are the recommended specs for getting 144fps at 1440pee

abstract kite Jan 27, 2020, 11:34 PM

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PEEPEE

fleet canopy Jan 27, 2020, 11:35 PM

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Uhh

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Kind of overkill. GTFO still wouldn’t be very optimized, but a 5700XT/2070 Super are great cards for 1440p 144hz

carmine elk Jan 27, 2020, 11:36 PM

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thanks cheers bro

abstract kite Jan 27, 2020, 11:36 PM

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:3 still going for that overkill

sharp geode Jan 27, 2020, 11:37 PM

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You're going to need a high powered PeeC

fleet canopy Jan 27, 2020, 11:38 PM

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A high powered pc

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That’d be

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Uhh

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Whatever draws the highest power

vapid crypt Jan 27, 2020, 11:38 PM

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ATM the optimization isn't perfect, people with 1080TI are typically getting just above 100fps at 1440, though it seems to vary

fleet canopy Jan 27, 2020, 11:38 PM

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AMD is more optimized for it I believe

vapid crypt Jan 27, 2020, 11:38 PM

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Someone earlier said they were getting 120 with a 1070 at that resolution

abstract kite Jan 27, 2020, 11:39 PM

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yea

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im getting 128

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fps 1080p

vapid crypt Jan 27, 2020, 11:39 PM

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So eh it varies

abstract kite Jan 27, 2020, 11:39 PM

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with 1070 x 9900k

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but yeah

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thats with high oc on gpu

fleet canopy Jan 27, 2020, 11:39 PM

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Oh, that’s not bad

vapid crypt Jan 27, 2020, 11:39 PM

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Yeah he said it was 2k, uh hmm phaSheva

abstract kite Jan 27, 2020, 11:39 PM

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assuming my gpu is broken xD

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cough*

vapid crypt Jan 27, 2020, 11:39 PM

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He said his core clock was at 2000mhz

fleet canopy Jan 27, 2020, 11:40 PM

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Quite high

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I’d honestly go 2080 Super over 2080 ti for gaming

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2080 Super has higher default clock speed

abstract kite Jan 27, 2020, 11:40 PM

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ok honestly lets say

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rtx 3000 series are out right

vapid crypt Jan 27, 2020, 11:40 PM

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I’m running a Gtx 1070 8gigs OC to 2000mhz with and a i7 3930k cpu at 4.3ghz and I get 120 frames at 2k with a refresh rate of 120, I’m on all high with ssao on and anti on max. I have no issues running this game with my set up
That's what the dude said

fleet canopy Jan 27, 2020, 11:40 PM

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1860/1650 average, while most 2080 Ti cards are 1300/1300 ish

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Kind of sketchy

abstract kite Jan 27, 2020, 11:41 PM

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ok to continue

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should i get RTX 3080 or wait for RTX 3080 super

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xD

vapid crypt Jan 27, 2020, 11:41 PM

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3930k though, that's uh... Sandybridge X what is that?

fleet canopy Jan 27, 2020, 11:41 PM

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Super is another long time

abstract kite Jan 27, 2020, 11:41 PM

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dude how does my man get more fps than me

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with i7

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wtf

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xD

vapid crypt Jan 27, 2020, 11:41 PM

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Sandy Bridge E

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Close enough

fleet canopy Jan 27, 2020, 11:42 PM

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Super overclocking lol

abstract kite Jan 27, 2020, 11:42 PM

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mine is occed too

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xD

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2013mhz

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and on cpu its 5ghz

vapid crypt Jan 27, 2020, 11:42 PM

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Well its 1440p, so the cpu isn't as... you know what I think this game is just weird

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Someone earlier said their 2080 Super was running at like 70fps, that's with a 3800x at 1080p

fleet canopy Jan 27, 2020, 11:43 PM

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Has to do with the cull settings I think

abstract kite Jan 27, 2020, 11:43 PM

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yea true

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im gonna say optimizations are needed

fleet canopy Jan 27, 2020, 11:43 PM

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Or the new tech just ain’t doing it lol

abstract kite Jan 27, 2020, 11:43 PM

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ok so i should just go for RTX 3080 + 9900k @fleet canopy

vapid crypt Jan 27, 2020, 11:43 PM

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There's a dozen reasons

fleet canopy Jan 27, 2020, 11:43 PM

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Optimization is a much needed thing

abstract kite Jan 27, 2020, 11:43 PM

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is 3080ti going to be released along side regular 30xx?

fleet canopy Jan 27, 2020, 11:43 PM

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And yeah

vapid crypt Jan 27, 2020, 11:43 PM

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We don't know

dusty pumice Jan 27, 2020, 11:43 PM

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^

fleet canopy Jan 27, 2020, 11:43 PM

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There’s always been a xx80 ti with every lineup

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Most if not all

vapid crypt Jan 27, 2020, 11:44 PM

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Uh yeah but not at the same time

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And I want to they started that in Kepler

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Like typically the 80 card was their flagship

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As they developed faster architectures they started up selling

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By making a "Titan"

fleet canopy Jan 27, 2020, 11:44 PM

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Titan

vapid crypt Jan 27, 2020, 11:44 PM

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Then cutting that down to a 80ti

abstract kite Jan 27, 2020, 11:45 PM

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i mean im just asking in general so i can see if i can get it for fairly cheap over my boss

fleet canopy Jan 27, 2020, 11:45 PM

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Are Tee Axe Titan

abstract kite Jan 27, 2020, 11:45 PM

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s

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fk

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XD

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aaaa damn enter key

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im too tired fuck it im going to bed

fleet canopy Jan 27, 2020, 11:45 PM

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Lol

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Take care

abstract kite Jan 27, 2020, 11:45 PM

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❤️

vapid crypt Jan 27, 2020, 11:47 PM

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So like with Pascal their first line up was two gpus, the 1070 and 1080. The MSRP was 379 and 699 respectively; like 8 months later I think in a response to Vega hype they released the 1080ti at 699 and made the 1080 499

fleet canopy Jan 27, 2020, 11:49 PM

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Hm

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Not too bad pricing at least

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Unlike 1000$+ for 2080 ti

remote horizon Jan 27, 2020, 11:49 PM

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I can get 1080p 144 Hz easy with a r7 2700x and RX 5700xt monkaHmm

fleet canopy Jan 27, 2020, 11:50 PM

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AMD is more optimized

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NVIDIA isn’t

remote horizon Jan 27, 2020, 11:50 PM

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Oof

fleet canopy Jan 27, 2020, 11:50 PM

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That’s what it seems

vapid crypt Jan 27, 2020, 11:50 PM

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This is interesting, we need a benchmark on everything to find out where the performance stands

fleet canopy Jan 27, 2020, 11:50 PM

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Yeah, a variety of CPUs and GPUs

vapid crypt Jan 27, 2020, 11:50 PM

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And the new pricing with Nvidia for the most part was in response to the inflated mining prices of 2017/2018

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They loved getting 900/1000+ per 1080ti and all that

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So they figured it would work, and its a shame that it kinda has

fleet canopy Jan 27, 2020, 11:51 PM

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1070, 2070 Super, then 580, 5700XT

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Along with like the 9900K and 9400F, and the 2600 with 3900X

vapid crypt Jan 27, 2020, 11:52 PM

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Maybe I'll contact Techspot to include it in their benchmarks phaWesker

fleet canopy Jan 27, 2020, 11:52 PM

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May also need different RAM speeds unless it’ll be good enough with just 3200Mhz

vapid crypt Jan 27, 2020, 11:53 PM

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Paul has benched 30+ games with various hardware, what's another one to add to the list... though tbh it doesn't really work cause this is a DX11 Unity game

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Not quite what you would see for a AAA release

fleet canopy Jan 27, 2020, 11:54 PM

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Hm, isn’t the newer DX12 more optimized for good builds? I do know it’s more demanding on performance, but it could be what makes the performance kind of shit

vapid crypt Jan 27, 2020, 11:55 PM

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Uh sort of, DX12 and Vulkan is slowly edging out DX11. But both versions of Direct X are very much still used

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I've mostly noticed DX9 games performing less than stellar actually

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Also Open GL performs comparatively pretty poorly on AMD, not a big deal cause you typically see that in few games or stuff like Emulators. I heard they've improved it slightly with the new cards though phaSheva

fleet canopy Jan 27, 2020, 11:59 PM

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Hm

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It may be the reason as to why I guess

tacit river Jan 28, 2020, 12:20 AM

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I mean it's openGL pepeweird

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 12:22 AM

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Yeah OpenGL is old, and it sucks. And I wonder why there are brand new games that has come out in the past 6 years or so that use it

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Like the recent Wolfenstein games, I think they added Vulkan support later on; but still. Even Doom 2016 launches with OpenGL

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Its a weird contrast when your game is using OpenGL and Vulkan phaWesker

knotty haven Jan 28, 2020, 12:28 AM

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or

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2x 2080 ti supers

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 12:31 AM

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If Nvidia legitimately releases a 2080 ti super in this quarter, I will eat my hat.

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 12:32 AM

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Nah

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We have a 1660, Super version, and the Ti

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No 1660 Super Ti

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 12:32 AM

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Yeah and they're within 2% of eachother phaWesker

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 12:33 AM

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Lol

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 12:33 AM

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But that's not my reasoning

dusty pumice Jan 28, 2020, 12:33 AM

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We have a AMD 2080ti equivelant on the way so nothing is impossible

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 12:33 AM

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Its cause its soooo close to Ampere, it just doesn't make sense to me

dusty pumice Jan 28, 2020, 12:34 AM

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Nothing is set in stone yet so we dont know exactly how close we are now

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 12:34 AM

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And I can't see them getting more than 10% more performance out of a theoretical 2080ti Super

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Not unless they want to let go of that arbitrary TDP of 250W they have a death grip on

dusty pumice Jan 28, 2020, 12:35 AM

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It wouldnt make much sense for the consumer to buy a card like that tho before the 30 series launch

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 12:41 AM

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2080Ti Super

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👀

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 12:46 AM

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No

remote horizon Jan 28, 2020, 12:49 AM

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Watch it burn like Intel's 350 W HEDT processor KEKW

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 12:52 AM

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Tbh 350w gpu is no big deal, 350w processor ain't right though phaWesker

abstract kite Jan 28, 2020, 12:52 AM

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^

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I can heat my house with a 350w CPU

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 12:53 AM

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That is a lot of power pins though

abstract kite Jan 28, 2020, 12:53 AM

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8+4 or 8+8 would be needed yea?

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 12:53 AM

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Oh no my mistake

abstract kite Jan 28, 2020, 12:53 AM

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A single 8 pin EPS connector is rated at 350w

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 12:54 AM

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I was talking about for a GPU

abstract kite Jan 28, 2020, 12:54 AM

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Oh haha okay

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 12:54 AM

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Its 75W from PCIe, 150W from an 8 pin right?

abstract kite Jan 28, 2020, 12:54 AM

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I think so yea

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Idk about the power draw from the motherboard. I need to look that up and learn

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 12:55 AM

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Its 75W from the Pcie slot

abstract kite Jan 28, 2020, 12:55 AM

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Ahh okay

remote token Jan 28, 2020, 1:01 AM

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linux?

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 1:07 AM

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no need to pay the heat bill anymore

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just buy intel

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 1:08 AM

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Isn’t heat also electricity?

solemn orchid Jan 28, 2020, 2:10 AM

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Cursed image

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📎 20200127_211007.jpg

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I didn't expect to go crawling back to windows so soon, but the performance loss in unsupported applications is too great to make it worth the switch for now

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 2:13 AM

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Kek

fiery fulcrum Jan 28, 2020, 2:23 AM

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anyone have room for a new player. just got the game?

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 2:26 AM

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?t off

rugged notchBOT Jan 28, 2020, 2:26 AM

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Sorry, unable to find a tag named off.

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 2:26 AM

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?t lfg

rugged notchBOT Jan 28, 2020, 2:26 AM

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Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

fiery fulcrum Jan 28, 2020, 2:31 AM

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109775241094924776

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 2:37 AM

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Not here

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In the lfg channels re

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 3:22 AM

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a bit late but i'm considering rocking a 3800X over a 3900X

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videditing and streaming are very far off in my future, would probably just be better to get a ryzen 4000 or beyond for when i move onto that

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 3:23 AM

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Uh sure, you could get a better GPU at that point then

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 3:24 AM

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probably gonna put that dosh towards a Vive

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 3:24 AM

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Its on sale on Amazon right now actually, pretty much almost no more than like 10 bucks over the 3700x

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 3:24 AM

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yeah i saw, that's why i was considering the downgrade

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3900X is definitely overkill for my gaming needs and my multi-core operations aren't a thing rn

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 3:25 AM

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The game performance would be close enough pretty much, and 8 cores is good for most things

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 3:25 AM

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yeah

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upgrading my GPU also wouldn't really be that helpful

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the only actually worth upgrade would be to a 2080Ti

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 3:28 AM

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Fair enough phaSheva

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Well then last I checked you could do with better storage then phaWesker

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Well arguably, its nice having a decent amount of space on an SSD you know

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 3:30 AM

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yeah but well

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vive

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the build is called "VR [x]th draft" for a reason

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getting a better SSD is definitely a priority but just using that as a boot drive will work for now

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also, thoughts on this monitor https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Dc97YJ/viotek-gft27db-270-2560x1440-144-hz-monitor-gft27db

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 3:32 AM

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Looks alright, though I haven't really heard of Viotek outside of seeing their brand in passing

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I can only vouch for the quality of the monitors I have phaWesker

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 3:33 AM

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👉 👉

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come to think of it

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nvidia 3000 is soon

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i could probably pick up a 2060/S for the time being until that drops

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 3:45 AM

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Eh, seems rather wasteful

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 3:45 AM

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fair, suggestions?

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 3:46 AM

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Well we don't know where the prices will land, and where the performance will line up. We can only guess

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 3:46 AM

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not for the 3000 line

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for what GPU i should get

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future proofing is hitting me hard now that a Q3 release date for nvidia 3000/ryzen 4000 is almost solid

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 3:47 AM

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I dunno, what are you thinking just get a GPU now; sell it for half later in the year or something?

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Well, maybe not half but you know

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 3:47 AM

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@dusty pumice the $1000 is now just being put towards the PC in general

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@vapid crypt i dont know anyone who would want or have the cash to get a GPU from me

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 3:48 AM

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I dunno, like you get a GPU now, and would there be a good reason to upgrade later in the year that's the question

dusty pumice Jan 28, 2020, 3:49 AM

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I would wait for Nvidia 30 series but thats me

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 3:49 AM

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thats the thing ^

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 3:49 AM

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Like if you got a 2070 super right now, do you see yourself being unhappy with that purchase in 8 months if it turns out the 3070 is pretty damn close to 2080ti performance

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 3:49 AM

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i want my PC asap but i also see the fat new releases coming soon™

dusty pumice Jan 28, 2020, 3:49 AM

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But you have no GPU right now you can use as a placeholder

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 3:50 AM

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extremely @vapid crypt

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i would be

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pissed

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 3:50 AM

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And that's very likely

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I would expect that to be the case

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 3:50 AM

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so yeah, 2070 super can begone for now

dusty pumice Jan 28, 2020, 3:50 AM

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What games do you play right now glass on the daily basis?

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 3:51 AM

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right now i play nothing really graphically intensive, but that's because my laptop is shitballs

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after i build this thing i'm gonna start getting into bigger games like MW and Arma

dusty pumice Jan 28, 2020, 3:52 AM

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I would make suggestions but i dont know if you are gonna like them

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So i am just gonna hold off on that

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 3:52 AM

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also like 90% of my PC time is gonna be in VR so that's another thing to consider

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 3:53 AM

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Me personally, I'm avoiding high refresh like the plague and whenever I upgrade the GPU I'll probably up to 1440p whenever I get the chance

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 3:55 AM

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so what gpu should i run then

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5600XT?

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 3:56 AM

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Uh, probably not

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The launch for that got pretty messy, and you'd have to update the BIOS for the best performance. And even then a good number of the board partners didn't use the appropriate memory that works with the Bios.

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 3:58 AM

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fair

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yeah i've heard bad things about radeon drivers and BIOS

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 3:59 AM

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You know cutting costs, so if you went for that; don't get an MSI ones. Sapphire is a safe bet though.

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Well the drivers do have issues, but they're not end of the world tier stuff right now. I've haven't had many issues at all, granted I'm not using a Navi card. I think a lot of the driver reports are cause of user error. Like they might be installing the new drivers on top of really old ones for example

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Carrying over a really old issue or something

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There's this XFX card I was looking at. Its a 5700 that's 299 now. And its basically the same cooler that they used for the 5700 XT, I believe fixing some issues that the initial one had. I might pick that up and flash the 5700XT bios onto it phaSheva

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 4:03 AM

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5700 for $299???

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damn

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2060 KO of radeon

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 4:07 AM

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But anyway, yeah save your money. Get a sub 400 card, they do 1440p well enough, albeit you won't get getting 144 in brand new AAA games most likely. But it'll handle em well

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That's one reason I'm avoiding ever exposing myself to a high refresh rate monitor, cause I know I won't be able to go back to a lower refresh rate; and before you know it I gotta spend 600 bucks on a GPU ConfusedUlf

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Its an exaggeration, but you get it phaWesker

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 4:09 AM

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yeah

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i'll just pick up a 2060 then, i keep raytracing and great performance while staying at $300

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 4:10 AM

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Sure, seems fair

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 4:10 AM

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was thinking of this one https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QNn8TW/msi-geforce-rtx-2060-6-gb-ventus-xs-oc-video-card-geforce-rtx-2060-ventus-xs-6g-oc

dusty pumice Jan 28, 2020, 4:10 AM

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Hopefully you will have some money to upgrade to 30 series later this year

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 4:11 AM

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I was looking at 2060s earlier, um

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 4:11 AM

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probably not, considering the rest of my cash is going to a Vive

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should have enough cash for the 30s around like Q1 2021 though

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or earlier

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@vapid crypt 👁️

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 4:15 AM

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ConfusedUlf

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 4:15 AM

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what about the 2060s 👁️

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:15 AM

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Hm

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So you now decide on cheaper one lol

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 4:16 AM

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yes >:(

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:16 AM

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If you still want a good GPU, I recommend sticking with a 2070 Super, with 3600 or 3700X

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 4:16 AM

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Nah nothing, I was curious about them and thought one of the beefier EVGA coolers would be pretty good

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But probably unnecessary for a 160w card

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 4:17 AM

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@fleet canopy yeah but

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i need $.
nvidia 3000 soon™
2060 is good enough for what i play

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:17 AM

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Nvidia 3000 release when?

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 4:17 AM

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Well its this year

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 4:17 AM

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Q3/Q4 this year

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:17 AM

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Oh

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Half a year or more

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 4:18 AM

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I basically posed the question, if you got a 2070 super now and in 8 months the 3070 turned out to perform really really close to a 2080ti would you be unhappy with that

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:18 AM

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2070 Super doesn’t really come close to a 2080 ti

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The 2080 Super does better for games imo, better price, closest to 2080 ti

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 4:19 AM

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$400 more though >:c

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:19 AM

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It’s performance is great for all gamers, unless you really want 4K lol

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It’s quite expensive yeah

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But 2080 ti for its performance isn’t really good for gaming, and 2080 Super can meet all games at a good resolution with good frames

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 4:20 AM

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The 2070 Super could do 4k, you might have to turn down settings but yeah that's coming down little by little

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:21 AM

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Think of the price though

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200$ more than a 2070 Super, and you could do well off without having to ever worry about a thing

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I just recommend 2080 Super over 2080 ti anytime

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 4:22 AM

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I think its BS that Nvidia has been skimping on memory

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:22 AM

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Never would recommend unless it’s got a reason like you use Blender or stuff similar to that

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And yeah, 24GB VRAM has been done. Why can’t we have 15GB for that

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 4:23 AM

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We are getting to a point where some games can get pretty high with the memory use

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:23 AM

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It’d be more overkill, but it’s a great futureproof

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 4:23 AM

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Now granted we're talking 4k Ultra

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:23 AM

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Yeah I can reach like 7GB VRAM easy on ultra Siege 1440p

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 4:24 AM

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Barely have enough, huh phaSheva

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Nvidia does well with memory compression though

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:24 AM

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True, but it was doing 200 or more frames

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 4:24 AM

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They save money by skimping on memory, and just solving issues through software

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:25 AM

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Hit 300 max, averaged 200, low was uhh probably 135

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Average must have been 230 probably

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 4:26 AM

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But yeah that whole thing started with the 1080ti, and I can almost understand it cause it was a cutdown Titan Xp; cut 1gb; speed up the clocks

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:26 AM

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I could have done more with a better CPU

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The higher clocks are better imo

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 4:26 AM

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Since memory is important for workstation they didn't want to shaft the Titan, shit they did that with the 780TI, same reason

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:27 AM

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They could do it, but they didn’t have to do it until now

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 4:27 AM

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I think its silly that for 1200 they won't even give you an even 12gb

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:27 AM

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I’d expect 12-15GB VRAM while at least doing more clock speed than 1700MHz in both

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For 3080 Ti

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 4:28 AM

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Oh no it'll probably have 16

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:28 AM

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It’s got to have it

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Good amount for that price

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 4:28 AM

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With the 3070 at 10, and the 3080 at 12

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:28 AM

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But including the clocks

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They didn’t make a 3GB 2060 at least lmao

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 4:29 AM

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Well they did something worse

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:29 AM

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Oh?

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 4:29 AM

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They called a 60 class card a 2070

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:29 AM

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Haha what

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 4:29 AM

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The 2070 uses the TU 106 die, typically the 106 die is what's used in the 60 cards

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:30 AM

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Oh my

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 4:30 AM

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The 2070 Super uses a cutdown 104

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:30 AM

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Damn

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 4:30 AM

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Which is what they should have made in the first place

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:31 AM

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So lemme guess the lower the number, the better?

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 4:31 AM

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Yeah basically, there are exceptions if you look at older generations

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Like the Titan and 780TI used a 110 something

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But they use a 102 for those atm

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:32 AM

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Ah okay so it’s better when it’s smaller

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 4:32 AM

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100 is the biggest die I think that's what they use for their server cards

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:33 AM

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Ok I’m now confuse

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 4:33 AM

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About what?

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:33 AM

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I’ve never really learnt or anything about their dies

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 4:33 AM

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I learned about this shit in the past year pretty much phaWesker

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:33 AM

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Just know it’s the main part of the GPU and does fuck knows

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 4:34 AM

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From channels on youtube I started following

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Its effectively no different from like a CPU die, that's where all the shaders and what not are found

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:34 AM

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Yeah, tech channels are pretty great if you follow the ones giving correct info and gives up to date news

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 4:35 AM

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Its where the magic happens PirateSimon

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:35 AM

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I hit on YouTube like once or twice a day pretty much lol

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I mainly use it to watch tech channels and a little bit of other stuff

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Just never came across anything for dies

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Except that the 2070 Super uses a 2080 die/board

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 4:37 AM

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This one channel I follow: Moore's Law is Dead; he runs a podcast called Broken Silicon covering PC hardware and other kinds of gaming hardware like consoles. He's had guests on, like Coreteks and Paul from Hardware Unboxed

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:37 AM

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Ah

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 4:38 AM

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Also Not an Apple Fan, his videos are great cause he posts almost daily and its just an Irish guy rambling about tech. That's where I learned the 2070 was truly a 60 class card phaWesker

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:38 AM

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Haha

solemn orchid Jan 28, 2020, 4:39 AM

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fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:40 AM

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A 14GB storage

solemn orchid Jan 28, 2020, 4:40 AM

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can you guess which one GTFO is going into? 😉

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That's just my recovery drive

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not for storing shit

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it's a recovery partition on my C

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:40 AM

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So like

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Images

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 4:41 AM

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Uh no, are you a big fan of the game; if so probably on an SSD

solemn orchid Jan 28, 2020, 4:41 AM

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It's going on my only SSD

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:41 AM

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Or windows idk

solemn orchid Jan 28, 2020, 4:41 AM

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I need a boot SSD

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:41 AM

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You have one

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 4:41 AM

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Oh you're not using one to boot off of

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Yikes

solemn orchid Jan 28, 2020, 4:41 AM

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yeah

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:41 AM

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Just use the SSD you already have

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 4:41 AM

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At least you aren't running games on the drive though

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:42 AM

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Still better than an hdd

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Any Hdd

solemn orchid Jan 28, 2020, 4:42 AM

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I'm booting my high priority games off of an SSD

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willing to have my OS on a HDD for that reason

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:42 AM

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Gyusshhjffj

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 4:42 AM

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The problem with Hard drives and games is if you try running the game off of an HDD with the OS on it

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That's when the speed goes to shit, otherwise its alright on a normal drive. Probably no more than 20% slower than an SSD

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:43 AM

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Windows is better on an SSD that has whatever you put in it lol

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HDDs aren’t really that good unless the SSD is terrible

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 4:44 AM

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I'm saying is the HDD isn't good if you're running games on it with the OS on it

solemn orchid Jan 28, 2020, 4:45 AM

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I'm keeping my boot hdd mostly clean

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 4:45 AM

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Otherwise, its not bad tbh. I got a 7200rpm drive with a big cache, I notice the speed difference with some things

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Like Killing Floor takes ages, I think I'm gonna move that back over

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Mainly just launching the game though

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:46 AM

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I’m pretty much going with having only SSDs for my stuff lol

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Sure it’s kind of stupid. But it’s better than an HDD and facing slower loads

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 4:47 AM

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I wonder how much the big cache helps with loading actually phaSheva

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I didn't notice any difference with Nioh anyway phaWesker

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:47 AM

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Lol

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 4:47 AM

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payday

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 4:47 AM

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I still have that on the SSD

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:47 AM

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I guess it’s only depending on what game needs it

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 4:47 AM

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512GB boot drive > 256GB boot drive i'm assuming

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 4:48 AM

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Uh I mean the bigger the better

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:48 AM

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Yeah I should go with a 100GB m.2 2280 instead of 250 for just windows honestly

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 4:48 AM

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With how Nand flash works, the higher capacity drives are always faster

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Its like it scales with how many chips they put on the thing

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:49 AM

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Unless I should have 250GB for it GWworkshopAkaShrug

abstract kite Jan 28, 2020, 4:51 AM

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4 TB SSD is the same price for a nvidia GPU

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fun fact

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Well, not that much, but around 500, if we're talking about mid-range

solemn orchid Jan 28, 2020, 4:51 AM

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what

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:52 AM

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4TB SSD is dumb unless fast file transferring is really a priority with needing a big storage and can blow money like it’s nothing to you

solemn orchid Jan 28, 2020, 4:52 AM

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first of all, mid range Nvidia GPU these days is like

abstract kite Jan 28, 2020, 4:52 AM

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or something

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i dunno

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or something

solemn orchid Jan 28, 2020, 4:52 AM

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1060 for the lower end of mid range

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which is around 200

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or 2060 for the higher end of mid range

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:52 AM

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Yeah no I’ve seen 4TB SSDs go for 700$ or more

solemn orchid Jan 28, 2020, 4:52 AM

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which is 300

abstract kite Jan 28, 2020, 4:52 AM

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1070, most of them are around 500.

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 4:52 AM

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In 2018 the 2070 retailed for 599

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 4:52 AM

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sabrent rocket < 970 evo i'm guessing

abstract kite Jan 28, 2020, 4:52 AM

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What I' talking about

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I'm*

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Don't hurt me

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:53 AM

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There’s some brands that are far better than a 970 Evo

solemn orchid Jan 28, 2020, 4:53 AM

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1070 is no more than $250 used

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:53 AM

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For price of course

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Performance maybe

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 4:53 AM

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More like 200

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:53 AM

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As I’ve heard from Demonio, it was overpriced

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 4:53 AM

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@fleet canopy Give

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:53 AM

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Western Digital is great

abstract kite Jan 28, 2020, 4:54 AM

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fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:54 AM

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There’s some other brands I forget

solemn orchid Jan 28, 2020, 4:54 AM

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that's amazon

abstract kite Jan 28, 2020, 4:54 AM

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Was about to use newegg as well

solemn orchid Jan 28, 2020, 4:54 AM

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never ever ever buy used tech on amazon

abstract kite Jan 28, 2020, 4:54 AM

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Of course

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:54 AM

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I bought my 1060 3GB used I believe

solemn orchid Jan 28, 2020, 4:55 AM

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I have a 1060 3gb laying around that came installed in my old prebuilt

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:55 AM

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It was great for 3-4 years and the damn thing still works to this day

knotty haven Jan 28, 2020, 4:55 AM

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2080 ti

solemn orchid Jan 28, 2020, 4:55 AM

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uhh

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 4:55 AM

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Don't buy a case through Amazon, they lost the first one I ordered and still failed to deliver the replacement phaWesker

solemn orchid Jan 28, 2020, 4:55 AM

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what about the 2080ti?

abstract kite Jan 28, 2020, 4:55 AM

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📎 Capture.PNG

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?

solemn orchid Jan 28, 2020, 4:55 AM

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okay

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:55 AM

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For those prices, 2070 Super is much better

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 4:55 AM

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I had to buy a different one from Newegg, lost 3 weeks and ran the pc without the case

abstract kite Jan 28, 2020, 4:55 AM

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Talking about unused.

solemn orchid Jan 28, 2020, 4:56 AM

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@knotty haven what about the 2080ti exactly?

knotty haven Jan 28, 2020, 4:56 AM

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idk juist tossed its name out lol

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 4:56 AM

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And that's literally just retailers inflating prices because of low stock

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:56 AM

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Hm

solemn orchid Jan 28, 2020, 4:56 AM

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I kind of have a bone to pick with the 2080ti

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 4:56 AM

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They'll get rid of them a different way most likely

knotty haven Jan 28, 2020, 4:56 AM

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wym

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:57 AM

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I’d love having one, I hate that price

knotty haven Jan 28, 2020, 4:57 AM

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its not for gaming lol

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i use it for 3d modeling

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:57 AM

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Oh it is for 4K 60Hz on higher graphics

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 4:57 AM

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Hmm

solemn orchid Jan 28, 2020, 4:57 AM

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a quatro would be a better bang for your buck when it comes to software application

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 4:57 AM

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I think the lows are closer to 75

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:57 AM

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I’d still highly recommend 2080 Super over 2080 Ti any day

solemn orchid Jan 28, 2020, 4:57 AM

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^

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:57 AM

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Unless you have reason for 2080 Ti

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Like gaming and Blender

knotty haven Jan 28, 2020, 4:58 AM

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again i was just tossin it out there 👀

solemn orchid Jan 28, 2020, 4:58 AM

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also if you really wanna save some cash, a 1080 is still a perfectly viable card

knotty haven Jan 28, 2020, 4:58 AM

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already have 2

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 4:58 AM

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I wouldn't recommend Nvidia at all just on principal... but then its hard to recommend anything else phaSip

knotty haven Jan 28, 2020, 4:58 AM

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building a new one

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:58 AM

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1080 Ti is more better choice, the price must have dropped at one point

knotty haven Jan 28, 2020, 4:58 AM

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dont like AMD either

solemn orchid Jan 28, 2020, 4:58 AM

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AMD needs to step up their game HARD this year with a good gpu

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:58 AM

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AMD is great

knotty haven Jan 28, 2020, 4:58 AM

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eh

solemn orchid Jan 28, 2020, 4:58 AM

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AMD is way behind

knotty haven Jan 28, 2020, 4:58 AM

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not my style

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:58 AM

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But their 5700XT ain’t doing much well

abstract kite Jan 28, 2020, 4:58 AM

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Why does this feel uncomfortably aggressive.

knotty haven Jan 28, 2020, 4:58 AM

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its not?

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 4:59 AM

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AMD kinda ruined the radeon brand

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:59 AM

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AMD is like really great

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CPU is great

solemn orchid Jan 28, 2020, 4:59 AM

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AMD has yet to compete with the high end when it comes to GPU

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 4:59 AM

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It was the absolute best when it was ATI running things

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:59 AM

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GPU can burn in a fire

solemn orchid Jan 28, 2020, 4:59 AM

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they have the cpu market held down hard

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 4:59 AM

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Needs like a huge ass update

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Because I hear complaints of “GAME NO RUN WITH 5700XT!!!!’”

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 4:59 AM

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The last time they were really super competitive was HD 6000

knotty haven Jan 28, 2020, 5:00 AM

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1660: existing

solemn orchid Jan 28, 2020, 5:00 AM

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it blows my mind that they're trying to compete with nvidia mid market

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why not go all the way

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 5:00 AM

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1660 is basically a 570 or 580, isn’t it

solemn orchid Jan 28, 2020, 5:00 AM

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their GPU model makes no sense

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:00 AM

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They can't

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Its not worth the risk

solemn orchid Jan 28, 2020, 5:00 AM

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1660 is substantially better than a 580

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but not like

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crazy better

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 5:00 AM

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Yeah, theyre good chilling in mid end

solemn orchid Jan 28, 2020, 5:00 AM

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but WHY

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:00 AM

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Its like 10% better

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Not really a big deal

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 5:01 AM

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2060 price actually dropped to compete against 5600XT

solemn orchid Jan 28, 2020, 5:01 AM

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imagine the seamlesness of an all AMD build that's actually worth building

knotty haven Jan 28, 2020, 5:01 AM

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best gpu up to date, go

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 5:01 AM

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2070 Super

solemn orchid Jan 28, 2020, 5:01 AM

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1080ti

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 5:01 AM

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Great for gaming

knotty haven Jan 28, 2020, 5:01 AM

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oh.?

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 5:01 AM

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1080 Ti is good too, but I’m not seeing a lot of it

solemn orchid Jan 28, 2020, 5:01 AM

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1080ti is a classic imo, still worth buying

knotty haven Jan 28, 2020, 5:01 AM

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is it good for Game desgin thooooo

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 5:02 AM

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2080Ti. :D

knotty haven Jan 28, 2020, 5:02 AM

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cus everyone saw the 2080 and went to waste money

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:02 AM

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I mean if you put your mind to it

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A 970 will let you develop a game phaWesker

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That's what GTFO was made on

knotty haven Jan 28, 2020, 5:02 AM

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ew.

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 5:02 AM

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Any GPU can

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 5:02 AM

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well i mean the titan rtx is probably the best gaming gpu

knotty haven Jan 28, 2020, 5:02 AM

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Blender takes years to render

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so ill just go dual 1080

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or dual 2070

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:02 AM

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5700XT has a Waifu gpu

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 5:02 AM

#

definitely not in price to performance but in pure frames

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:02 AM

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CHECKMATE

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 5:02 AM

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Hahaha

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 5:02 AM

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damn

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you right

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 5:03 AM

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It’s not bad

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But DRIVER SUCKS RIGHT NOW

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Checkmate, AMD fans

knotty haven Jan 28, 2020, 5:03 AM

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Cosair radtiator

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ez

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 5:03 AM

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Radtiator

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 5:04 AM

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hey so i did some things™

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:04 AM

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Like I said before, the drivers are buggy absolutely. But I legit think most of the issues are user error, not to mitigate AMD's fault in it of course, The initial 2020 drivers were a mess

solemn orchid Jan 28, 2020, 5:04 AM

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I'm happy with my thermaltake fans

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 5:04 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VTBTzN

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thoughts

knotty haven Jan 28, 2020, 5:04 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kb3PK4

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just a quicc Scrap together

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 5:04 AM

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Sexy

knotty haven Jan 28, 2020, 5:04 AM

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isnt the best but meh

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 5:04 AM

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Overkill price

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:04 AM

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Dat Occulus

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 5:04 AM

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I could get a similar performance with 1500$

knotty haven Jan 28, 2020, 5:05 AM

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i don care for pref

solemn orchid Jan 28, 2020, 5:05 AM

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@median moon Ridiculously overpriced components

knotty haven Jan 28, 2020, 5:05 AM

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i have another pc lol

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can steal parts from it

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oh not me?

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 5:05 AM

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Sure but in general shit price

knotty haven Jan 28, 2020, 5:05 AM

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Lost

solemn orchid Jan 28, 2020, 5:05 AM

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Izuku, if you have this much money to play with, why are you here to get suggestions?

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just buy two of whatever is most expensive

knotty haven Jan 28, 2020, 5:05 AM

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i dont

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savnig money

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 5:05 AM

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christ

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ok what do i do

solemn orchid Jan 28, 2020, 5:06 AM

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you don't have to buy name-brand everything

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well, "name brand"

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:06 AM

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Throw the occulus away PirateSimon Hahahaha

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 5:06 AM

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no

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 5:06 AM

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200$ priced mobo, and dark rock pro 4 or noctua d-15 better choice unless have absolute necessity to buy watercooler, a 100$ priced one

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 5:06 AM

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that's

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a D-15

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:06 AM

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I was joking you know

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 5:06 AM

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D-15 is air

knotty haven Jan 28, 2020, 5:07 AM

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neh

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 5:07 AM

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i know, i'm not running an aio.

knotty haven Jan 28, 2020, 5:07 AM

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i like my Asus ROG RNG

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i dont fuck with non rng

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sorry

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 5:07 AM

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ROG RNG

knotty haven Jan 28, 2020, 5:07 AM

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ROG strix

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RNG

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etc

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 5:07 AM

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Republic Of Gamers Random Number Generator

knotty haven Jan 28, 2020, 5:07 AM

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oh

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oop

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 5:07 AM

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Haha

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:07 AM

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Yo get a Scythe Fuma 2, I don't think anyone appreciates the amazing performance for a 60 dollar cooler, like its within the ballpark of a D15 while being like 40% less

knotty haven Jan 28, 2020, 5:07 AM

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hah sush didnt see it

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RGB*

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 5:08 AM

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Are Gee Bee

solemn orchid Jan 28, 2020, 5:08 AM

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import random

print(randint[0, 1000])

knotty haven Jan 28, 2020, 5:08 AM

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i like my shit looking like it ran thought a gay club

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 5:08 AM

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I like a tad bit of RGB

knotty haven Jan 28, 2020, 5:08 AM

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as long as my ram and mobo has it/radiator

solemn orchid Jan 28, 2020, 5:08 AM

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jesus

median moon Jan 28, 2020, 5:08 AM

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@vapid crypt what else do i do

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 5:08 AM

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Otherwise it’s a distracting as fuck thing on a desk

knotty haven Jan 28, 2020, 5:08 AM

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rest can be straight

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i mean i just got the NZXT h100

vapid crypt Jan 28, 2020, 5:09 AM

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Are you sure you'll need the wifi from the mobo?

knotty haven Jan 28, 2020, 5:09 AM

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i dont need it i use whats it called

fleet canopy Jan 28, 2020, 5:09 AM

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Last I was done putting together my finalization of a build, I estimate 2000-2500$ haha

knotty haven Jan 28, 2020, 5:09 AM

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cable

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cant think rn

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xd