#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk | GTFO | Page 61

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 2:21 AM

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What does the Bios say the speed is at?

fleet canopy Jan 21, 2020, 2:22 AM

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Get 2x8GB 3200Mhz

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 2:22 AM

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2132

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why not 2x16 3200Mhz?

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 2:22 AM

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Cause if it was faster with the 7700k its probably because the RAM was clocked higher

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 2:22 AM

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ok umm

fleet canopy Jan 21, 2020, 2:22 AM

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Hm

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GWmythicalThonkCool

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 2:22 AM

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could i possibly get

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2400Mhz

fleet canopy Jan 21, 2020, 2:22 AM

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No

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 2:22 AM

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with 2133

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xD

fleet canopy Jan 21, 2020, 2:22 AM

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Yeah

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If you can OC it

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 2:22 AM

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ok

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so

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coffee

fleet canopy Jan 21, 2020, 2:22 AM

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But I recommend getting 3200Mhz as soon as you can

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 2:23 AM

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ok should i just go for 2x16 3200

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for future proof

fleet canopy Jan 21, 2020, 2:23 AM

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Uhh

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Depends on price

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 2:23 AM

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price isnt an issue XD

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for future proof

fleet canopy Jan 21, 2020, 2:23 AM

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:(

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 2:23 AM

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->

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ok fine

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2x8

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XD

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umm which

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ones

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are cheapest and reliable

fleet canopy Jan 21, 2020, 2:23 AM

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What's CPU cooler?

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 2:24 AM

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kraken x52

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 2:24 AM

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16 is more than fine

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 2:24 AM

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i was gonna get

fleet canopy Jan 21, 2020, 2:24 AM

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Oh yeah a watercooler

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 2:24 AM

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72

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but

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my case is shit

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xD

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wanna guess the price difference between 52 and 72

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just guess

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20€ XD

fleet canopy Jan 21, 2020, 2:24 AM

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100$

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 2:24 AM

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i wish i could have gotten it

fleet canopy Jan 21, 2020, 2:24 AM

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Oh

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 2:24 AM

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xD

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 2:24 AM

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Is that a 120 rad?

fleet canopy Jan 21, 2020, 2:24 AM

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Kek

ancient ether Jan 21, 2020, 2:24 AM

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Excuse the interruption, is a Ryzen 3 2200g and a RX570 2GB enough to run the game?

fleet canopy Jan 21, 2020, 2:24 AM

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2GB?

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 2:24 AM

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Ill help you in more detail later with OCing but my hands are tied rn. @abstract kite

Demonio and mayo got you covered atm

fleet canopy Jan 21, 2020, 2:24 AM

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Of RAM?

ancient ether Jan 21, 2020, 2:24 AM

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vram

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 2:24 AM

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actually lemme check

ancient ether Jan 21, 2020, 2:24 AM

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got 16gb ram

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 2:24 AM

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rx 570s do not come in 2gb

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That's uh weird phaWesker

fleet canopy Jan 21, 2020, 2:25 AM

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If you like Are Gee Beeeeeeee, Here's this https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ybrcCJ/gskill-tridentz-rgb-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3200-memory-f4-3200c16d-16gtzr @abstract kite

queen timber Jan 21, 2020, 2:25 AM

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So have no clue what my computer's tech is it's over a decade old and I do not know what settings to put it at

ancient ether Jan 21, 2020, 2:25 AM

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oh my mistake, its 4gb vram

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 2:25 AM

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@vapid crypt 240mm

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 2:25 AM

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Oh okay

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Yeah that's alright

ancient ether Jan 21, 2020, 2:25 AM

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Thanks

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 2:25 AM

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I'd say turn the CPU culling to low

fleet canopy Jan 21, 2020, 2:25 AM

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If you hate are Are Gee Bee, https://pcpartpicker.com/product/p6RFf7/corsair-memory-cmk16gx4m2b3200c16 @abstract kite

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 2:25 AM

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wait wait this is all too complicated XD umm

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i dont wanna do shit to my cpu xD

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i like it and temsp are fine

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xD

fleet canopy Jan 21, 2020, 2:26 AM

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Lol it won't shit on you

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Don't worry

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 2:26 AM

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ok so i get 16gb 3200

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then i need what

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XD

fleet canopy Jan 21, 2020, 2:26 AM

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Just

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Replace those in

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And you're gucci

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 2:26 AM

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ok who has 100€ to gib kekw

fleet canopy Jan 21, 2020, 2:26 AM

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lol

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 2:26 AM

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ConfusedUlf

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 2:26 AM

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You install it, preferably correctly and then go into the bios and enable the xmp profile

fleet canopy Jan 21, 2020, 2:26 AM

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You said price wasn't an issue, eh?

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 2:26 AM

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;D

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if i were to upgrade for future proof

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which im not ready yet

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kinda

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 2:27 AM

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Fuck it get a Samsung B-die kit

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 2:27 AM

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LMAO

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tf is that

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xD

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never heard of it

fleet canopy Jan 21, 2020, 2:27 AM

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Hah

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 2:27 AM

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ok @vapid crypt i need help with umm seeing if my xmp is running fine

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 2:27 AM

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So when it comes to memory manufacturers

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Samsung makes the best memory modules

fleet canopy Jan 21, 2020, 2:28 AM

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Hm

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 2:28 AM

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Like you can overclock while keeping the timings low, really good stuff

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 2:28 AM

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ok ok u got time

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i can go in bios rn

fleet canopy Jan 21, 2020, 2:28 AM

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What's your region Coffee?

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 2:28 AM

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ill send pics

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Croatia

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Eu

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Central EU

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 2:28 AM

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Stuff like Gskill Flare-X and some of the Trident Zs use Samsung B-die

fleet canopy Jan 21, 2020, 2:28 AM

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Uhh

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What's that in initals?

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 2:28 AM

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CA was it?

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No wait

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 2:28 AM

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HRK

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 2:29 AM

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That's Canada

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 2:29 AM

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KUNA

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we call it KUNA

fleet canopy Jan 21, 2020, 2:29 AM

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No see

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 2:29 AM

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but most sites go for HRK

fleet canopy Jan 21, 2020, 2:29 AM

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It's all 2 letters

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 2:29 AM

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oh

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HR

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 2:29 AM

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CR possibly

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 2:29 AM

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atleast for us its HR

fleet canopy Jan 21, 2020, 2:29 AM

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HR

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 2:29 AM

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yes

fleet canopy Jan 21, 2020, 2:29 AM

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GWmythicalThonkCool

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 2:29 AM

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xD

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we call it Hrvatska

fleet canopy Jan 21, 2020, 2:29 AM

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I'm not seeing it dude haha

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 2:29 AM

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like croatians call croatia Hrvatska

fleet canopy Jan 21, 2020, 2:29 AM

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It's CA, yeah?

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 2:30 AM

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No I think that's Canada

fleet canopy Jan 21, 2020, 2:30 AM

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Hm

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 2:30 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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legit HRK

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xD

fleet canopy Jan 21, 2020, 2:30 AM

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Bah

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Just find a 2x8GB, at 3200Mhz and CAS16 or lower with timings at 16-19-19-38 or lower

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 2:31 AM

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done costs 118€

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xD

fleet canopy Jan 21, 2020, 2:31 AM

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Kek

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 2:31 AM

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120€*

fleet canopy Jan 21, 2020, 2:31 AM

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Most RAM at that priced at that tbh

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 2:31 AM

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📎 unknown.png

fleet canopy Jan 21, 2020, 2:31 AM

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Actually not exactly but

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Still

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 2:31 AM

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well in america its like

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xD

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80€

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XDDDDD

fleet canopy Jan 21, 2020, 2:32 AM

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kek

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 2:32 AM

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or 90€

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ok

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umm

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@vapid crypt ill go in bios rn

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ill dm u pics

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where to

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fix my xmp

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 2:32 AM

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It should be no problem

fleet canopy Jan 21, 2020, 2:32 AM

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Yeah no most is 100$ close

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Nah yeah 80$

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 2:33 AM

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nono

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basically

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euros

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80€ is like 90-100#

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$*

fleet canopy Jan 21, 2020, 2:33 AM

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Geeee Gaaaa Biiiiteeee Ayyyyyyyyyyorruuuusssss

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xdjJ7P/gigabyte-aorus-rgb-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-memory-gp-ar32c16s8k2hu416rd

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 2:33 AM

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XD

fleet canopy Jan 21, 2020, 2:33 AM

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Overpriced crap

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 2:33 AM

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JESUS

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christ

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XD

fleet canopy Jan 21, 2020, 2:33 AM

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Yes

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100$ or lower is not bad for me imo lol

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Depending on spec

tepid bobcat Jan 21, 2020, 2:58 AM

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Ooh, RGB Ram. Good first thing to see my first time here.

muted slate Jan 21, 2020, 3:57 AM

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Hey I bought a computer, how do I know if it's good?

mint basalt Jan 21, 2020, 3:58 AM

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what r the specs

muted slate Jan 21, 2020, 3:58 AM

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📎 Screenshot_20200107-115645.png 📎 Screenshot_20200107-115638.png

fleet canopy Jan 21, 2020, 3:58 AM

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Hm

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So little specific info, but

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You did buy it?

muted slate Jan 21, 2020, 3:59 AM

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I can take a pic of the inside?

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Yeah

fleet canopy Jan 21, 2020, 3:59 AM

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Ah

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That's not too bad

mint basalt Jan 21, 2020, 3:59 AM

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is this a prebuilt or did u build it

fleet canopy Jan 21, 2020, 3:59 AM

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It's 150$

muted slate Jan 21, 2020, 3:59 AM

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Prebuilt

fleet canopy Jan 21, 2020, 3:59 AM

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Some dude's PC that they selling

mint basalt Jan 21, 2020, 4:00 AM

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how old is it

muted slate Jan 21, 2020, 4:00 AM

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I don't know

fleet canopy Jan 21, 2020, 4:00 AM

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It has a 750 Ti

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Should be old enough

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But might still be a good player

mint basalt Jan 21, 2020, 4:01 AM

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u might need to change out parts here and there

muted slate Jan 21, 2020, 4:01 AM

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Which parts?

mint basalt Jan 21, 2020, 4:03 AM

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well i have liquid cooling so u will need to replace the liquid about every month

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unless its a closed loop

muted slate Jan 21, 2020, 4:03 AM

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How do I tell?

mint basalt Jan 21, 2020, 4:04 AM

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ud need to ask the guy

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or look online

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u can pull up the specs on the pc

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and get the exact name

fleet canopy Jan 21, 2020, 4:20 AM

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Closed loop is like AIOs, yeah?

merry bay Jan 21, 2020, 4:44 AM

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A lot of those older AMD CPU's don't support the SSE4 instruction set. Was a major cause for crashes in some modern games. e. x. Apex

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 5:13 AM

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If its a 6 core AMD cpu with a 750ti its likely an FX 6 core chip

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The only other possible cpu is one of the 6 core Phenoms which for sure lacks SSE4

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 5:20 AM

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@fleet canopy yes

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All in ones are closed loops

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 5:20 AM

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Looking it up it probably is a Phenom, cause the base clock of the FX chips are higher than 2.8ghz

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 5:20 AM

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@vapid crypt From what I could tell, it's a Phenom

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 5:22 AM

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Its the 1055T

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 5:22 AM

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Yea

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 5:24 AM

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I saw this Timmy Joe video about it a little while ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp2Bf51XkCA

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Where he tested one of the 6 core phenoms, but its just not viable since it lacks modern instruction sets

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Well as far as modern games go

muted slate Jan 21, 2020, 5:25 AM

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Closed loop @mint basalt

mint basalt Jan 21, 2020, 5:26 AM

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then u dont need to replace it

median moon Jan 21, 2020, 5:38 AM

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liquid cooling seems

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impractical

fleet canopy Jan 21, 2020, 5:39 AM

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Maybe, but it looks nice, and you can fit any RAM with no worries

median moon Jan 21, 2020, 5:40 AM

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is fitting RAM worth risking your entire pc getting a shower

warm grove Jan 21, 2020, 5:41 AM

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Out of the hundreds of PC's I've built, none have ever had leak issues.

fleet canopy Jan 21, 2020, 5:41 AM

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Pretty sure in most cases, - yeah

median moon Jan 21, 2020, 5:41 AM

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cool.
doesn't undermine the constant risk of a leak or worse though

warm grove Jan 21, 2020, 5:42 AM

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It does though. Because the risk is exceptionally low.

median moon Jan 21, 2020, 5:42 AM

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it doesn't though, because there is still that risk

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5C° cooler < no worries

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there's also replacing coolant, getting all of your parts in place, etc, or you can glue a fan onto your mobo and kasplam

fleet canopy Jan 21, 2020, 5:43 AM

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Replacing coolant is just custom ones

warm grove Jan 21, 2020, 5:43 AM

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If you have a closed loop, there's no need to refill. That's only for custom, ye.

fleet canopy Jan 21, 2020, 5:43 AM

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Custom ones pose more of a risk

median moon Jan 21, 2020, 5:43 AM

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that's what i'm referring to

fleet canopy Jan 21, 2020, 5:44 AM

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But it’s fucking cool to get if you got the money and don’t give a shit

median moon Jan 21, 2020, 5:44 AM

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closed loops are fine and dandy if you have the $ but custom ones

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eecchh

warm grove Jan 21, 2020, 5:44 AM

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Custom ones are stupid rare and usually done as a "because I can" for hobbyists and money holders.

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At that point if it springs a leak they won't care much. Also closed loop are about as costly as good normal heatsinks, so...

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There's a reason liquid cooling is becoming rapidly more utilised.

sick reef Jan 21, 2020, 8:11 AM

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Custom loop scales better than AIO, as you can scale it yourself. But do let me know when a company gets a 43mm radiator for their AIO.

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If you don't know how O-ring works though you're going to fuck it.

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Benefit of being a mechanic is that you get proper understanding of air systems, and how to keep an O-ring tight with destroying it.

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Recommended for M16 per example is 36N, but boy, Sure feels better doing 70~. Won't get destroyed until past that.

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Same with the pipes. Clean edges, proper insertion, proper lubrication, otherwise you'll scuff that too.

vapid folio Jan 21, 2020, 12:28 PM

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Are there any liquids better than water in terms of heat transfer and capacity?

jade ermine Jan 21, 2020, 2:12 PM

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Mercury?😄

median moon Jan 21, 2020, 3:19 PM

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nitrogen

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 3:25 PM

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From what I understand water is the best choice overall cause you can keep that clean compared to some other stuff. I remember Jayz2cents testing Beer, Milk couple different liquids. If I recall correctly Milk did really well... but you know Milk spoils phaWesker

clear quartz Jan 21, 2020, 3:44 PM

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antifreeze is really good if you want lower temperatures

jade ermine Jan 21, 2020, 3:47 PM

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For the best results get enough radiator surface area

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works wonders

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 5:27 PM

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Has anyone ever tried something like windshield wiper fluid

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It's pre tinted and it doesn't freeze like water 😉

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Granted it's only going threw plastic in your car tho

median moon Jan 21, 2020, 5:34 PM

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ok

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 5:38 PM

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ConfusedUlf

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 5:53 PM

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I think people have tested Anti-freeze, dunno how that worked out

brisk badger Jan 21, 2020, 5:58 PM

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What about mineral oil? Should be decent in terms of cooling and a huge mess when you have to clean😋

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:00 PM

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think jayztwocents tested it

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it worked similar but meh

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mineral oil cooled XD

brisk badger Jan 21, 2020, 6:01 PM

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My experience with high overclocks aio custom loops and air coolimg:

dusty pumice Jan 21, 2020, 6:01 PM

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Mineral oil you could just pull the whole system out and let it leak

brisk badger Jan 21, 2020, 6:01 PM

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Air cooling is best and cheapest

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:02 PM

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oof let it leak Kekw

dusty pumice Jan 21, 2020, 6:02 PM

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What is oof about that?

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i dont get it

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:02 PM

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@brisk badger is Corsair 570X good case?

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@dusty pumice i was gonna joke with a sex joke but i dont know how to joke so yeah just dont think about my "oof thing"

brisk badger Jan 21, 2020, 6:02 PM

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Idk i only use bench tables, 😋😁😁

dusty pumice Jan 21, 2020, 6:02 PM

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Only thing u have to deal with is fucking dust going into the oil then it will look disgusting

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Gotta work with clean as possible buckets or whatever you use to clean the products / remove the oil from the tank

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:03 PM

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📎 453eb4427b4ad9085291e1ffae9d8aeb.png

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i want this case ngl...

brisk badger Jan 21, 2020, 6:03 PM

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It must be hazzle to replace that oil😕

dusty pumice Jan 21, 2020, 6:03 PM

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Yeah it is wooza

brisk badger Jan 21, 2020, 6:03 PM

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Looks slick

dusty pumice Jan 21, 2020, 6:03 PM

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it truely is a hassle lmfao but if you build it correctly its more than do-able

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:03 PM

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now im not sure if i can place Kraken X72

dusty pumice Jan 21, 2020, 6:03 PM

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what case is that coffee?

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500D or 570?

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:04 PM

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570x

dusty pumice Jan 21, 2020, 6:04 PM

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I dont like the PSU shroud with the cables running from the front

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:04 PM

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i plan to just like re-build my current pc

dusty pumice Jan 21, 2020, 6:04 PM

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buy hey thats me

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:04 PM

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same

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Case Dimensions 480mm x 234mm x 512mm

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so does it support kraken x72 on top?

dusty pumice Jan 21, 2020, 6:04 PM

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for the rest it looks fine but the airflow can be shitty with all glas panels

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:05 PM

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true

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i would also like to keep it open

dusty pumice Jan 21, 2020, 6:05 PM

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I believe @jade ermine has that case

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:05 PM

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@jade ermine ello mate

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xD

dusty pumice Jan 21, 2020, 6:05 PM

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stop adding him lmfao

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dont spam the shit out of it LOL

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:05 PM

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was only two times?

dusty pumice Jan 21, 2020, 6:05 PM

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Once is more than enough

jade ermine Jan 21, 2020, 6:05 PM

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@abstract kite Hi there

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what

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:05 PM

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ok you have

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Corsair 570X đ

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?

jade ermine Jan 21, 2020, 6:05 PM

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I do!

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:06 PM

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ok good i gotta ask u a question about the top dimensions

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for the cooler

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can it fit like a

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Radiator: 394 x 120 x 27mm

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on top?

jade ermine Jan 21, 2020, 6:06 PM

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📎 IMG_20200116_142330.jpg

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proof of ownership

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just tell how many and what size fans

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:06 PM

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hmm can u take a pic directly from top

jade ermine Jan 21, 2020, 6:06 PM

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its easier

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:06 PM

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from bird perspective?

jade ermine Jan 21, 2020, 6:07 PM

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📎 JPEG_20200121_200703.jpg

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:07 PM

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ok thank you very much

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umm

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360mm

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AER P120MM Radiator Fan

jade ermine Jan 21, 2020, 6:07 PM

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Not going to fit

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:07 PM

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so 3x120?

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i guess

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crap

jade ermine Jan 21, 2020, 6:08 PM

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Top takes 240mm 30mm thicc radiator

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Front can fit 360mm rad

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:08 PM

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grrr

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yea ok umm so now

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if i were to use the radiator without kraken fnas

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fans

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and got the corsair fans

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and kinda like mount the custom fans on the radiator

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would that work and look nice

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i kinda dont wanna loose that slick rgb look xD

jade ermine Jan 21, 2020, 6:08 PM

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I had 3 radiators in this case at one point

📎 IMG_2133.JPG

dusty pumice Jan 21, 2020, 6:08 PM

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@abstract kite Go for static pressured fans

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not normal airflow fans

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just fyi

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:09 PM

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hmm im not that well informed with type of fans

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are the corsair ones static pressured

dusty pumice Jan 21, 2020, 6:09 PM

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thats why i am telling you

jade ermine Jan 21, 2020, 6:10 PM

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Fans are fans. Just go for PWM fans with the size you are looking for

dusty pumice Jan 21, 2020, 6:10 PM

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I dont have time right now to help you with that sorry

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:10 PM

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its fine np

jade ermine Jan 21, 2020, 6:10 PM

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And before you buy anything read little about the model. Some fans (like sickeflow from CM) dont work at all with radiators

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so static pressure is a thing

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:10 PM

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damn

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yeah well umm thats why im asking you cuz u got the case and the fans in there

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so umm how do i explain

dusty pumice Jan 21, 2020, 6:11 PM

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My own recommend would be stay with a normal aircooler not an all in one

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:11 PM

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i have bad experience with air coolers

dusty pumice Jan 21, 2020, 6:11 PM

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For me all in ones cost too much over normal aircoolers but thats my oppinion for the better looks all in ones are the way to go

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:11 PM

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i have phobias of them so umm even if i was like up for it which i am

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as the price is decent and the performance too

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my own brain is like scared to go for it

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sounds dumb but its true

jade ermine Jan 21, 2020, 6:12 PM

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If you want solid AIO wich is not expensive go for that new one from arctic. No rgb tho😙

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:12 PM

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so kraken x72 isnt good

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xD

jade ermine Jan 21, 2020, 6:12 PM

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570X takes 360 and 120mm models

dusty pumice Jan 21, 2020, 6:12 PM

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they already selling those?

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artics

jade ermine Jan 21, 2020, 6:12 PM

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yea liquid freezer 2's

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:13 PM

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what size are those fans you got in the front panel

jade ermine Jan 21, 2020, 6:13 PM

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they use thicker radiator than most AIO's and have great fans

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:13 PM

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unlucky?

jade ermine Jan 21, 2020, 6:13 PM

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120mm

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:13 PM

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so technically they should fit the radiator on x72

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just speculating rn

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can you gimme model so i can check

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if they are presured

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like Corsair xx xx 120mm

jade ermine Jan 21, 2020, 6:14 PM

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x72 fits no problem

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:14 PM

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"I dont see why you couldn't replace them, since the pump is in the block."

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someone said its fine

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so i guess

dense wasp Jan 21, 2020, 6:15 PM

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You still having issues with your performance Coffee?

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:15 PM

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yep

jade ermine Jan 21, 2020, 6:15 PM

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What are you going for im little confused

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:15 PM

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umm there is one guy who is currently on work and is gonna help me OC my ram from 2133 to 3133

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mhz

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maybe that will work

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he suspects its my RAM which is bottlenecking my cpu xd

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unlucky, okay soo

#

resend the pic of case once again

jade ermine Jan 21, 2020, 6:16 PM

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just scroll up a little lmao

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:16 PM

#

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so basically what i will do

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just have my x72 radiator blocvk

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behind the fans

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and leave the case as it is

dusty pumice Jan 21, 2020, 6:16 PM

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@dense wasp u got time to help me tinker with my GTFO settings? or give me the info i need from the last DM we had

jade ermine Jan 21, 2020, 6:16 PM

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You can do that yes

dense wasp Jan 21, 2020, 6:16 PM

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Ocn the ram shouldn’t more than just enabling the correct XMP profile on your mb

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:17 PM

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yeah about that

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xmp aint doing sht

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keeping the same stock freq

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and mhz

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2133 mhz

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it didnt change

jade ermine Jan 21, 2020, 6:17 PM

#

So you have 2133mhz sticks

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:17 PM

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yes

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for about 5-6 yrs now XD

dusty pumice Jan 21, 2020, 6:17 PM

#

And you say you want perfect fps

sick reef Jan 21, 2020, 6:17 PM

#

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Speed, pressure and flow and noise, and units.

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:18 PM

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@dusty pumice yeah but look i aint that rich too buy 300€ worth of ram

dense wasp Jan 21, 2020, 6:18 PM

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Hm,
Well I mean your performance shouldn’t go down when buying a better cpu 🤷🏻‍♂️

dusty pumice Jan 21, 2020, 6:18 PM

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Oh labcat is here i dont gotta type no more

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i can focus on more important stuff

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:18 PM

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when it comes to my ocd and my money

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i pick money xd

dusty pumice Jan 21, 2020, 6:18 PM

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@abstract kite you buy a i9-9900k but dont have money to upgrade to new ram with that

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makes no sense mate sorry

dense wasp Jan 21, 2020, 6:18 PM

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Not now I’m afraid @dusty pumice just starting a movie with the wife

dusty pumice Jan 21, 2020, 6:19 PM

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@dense wasp Ok = ( ill patiently wait then

sick reef Jan 21, 2020, 6:19 PM

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Recommended Air pressure for Radiators is around 2mmH20.

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:19 PM

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Well i didnt have time to work for more money @dusty pumice

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my studies kicked in

sick reef Jan 21, 2020, 6:19 PM

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If I remember correctly. That's for base line one's.

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:19 PM

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i only had time to work

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few months to get money

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i barley even had enough for 9900k

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FYI

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i had to sell my 7700k

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addon 300€

dusty pumice Jan 21, 2020, 6:19 PM

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@abstract kite stop blaming a money issue here you put a 2080ti on your twitch profile

sick reef Jan 21, 2020, 6:19 PM

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If your fans aren't producing that, then you're fucked.

dusty pumice Jan 21, 2020, 6:19 PM

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just to lie to your viewers it isnt a money issue

sick reef Jan 21, 2020, 6:19 PM

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Not fully, but it's not optimal.

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:19 PM

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yeah

dusty pumice Jan 21, 2020, 6:20 PM

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and stop @ ing me pls

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:20 PM

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cause i dont want them be like oh lolol u have GTX 1070

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what a newb

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etc

dusty pumice Jan 21, 2020, 6:20 PM

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Who cares a 1070 is a good product?

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 6:20 PM

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That a little insecure tbh

dusty pumice Jan 21, 2020, 6:20 PM

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i dont see the issue sorry

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:20 PM

#

look

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i dont see issue either

#

people are idiots and they troll no matter what

sick reef Jan 21, 2020, 6:20 PM

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Yeah

dusty pumice Jan 21, 2020, 6:20 PM

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You made the issue yourself you troll yourself

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:20 PM

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if they see you are using older gpu and not upgrading

sick reef Jan 21, 2020, 6:20 PM

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And you buy into it.

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Clearly.

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:20 PM

#

they will attack me

sick reef Jan 21, 2020, 6:20 PM

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So, you know

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:20 PM

#

what issue?

jade ermine Jan 21, 2020, 6:20 PM

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Nobody gives a flying fuck what GPU you are rocking lmao

dusty pumice Jan 21, 2020, 6:20 PM

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Your just underage and immature

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 6:20 PM

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Irrational morons gonna be irrational morons

sick reef Jan 21, 2020, 6:20 PM

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Lying isn't grounds for them being such.

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:20 PM

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lmao

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@dense wasp you gonna calm down @dusty pumice

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thank you ludvig ❤️

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 6:21 PM

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I got a RX 580 in July, its a good card for what its worth

dusty pumice Jan 21, 2020, 6:21 PM

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Oh i am calm i just dont buy into lies

sick reef Jan 21, 2020, 6:21 PM

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Lying is probably a better way to get people onto you because that means you are intentionally hiding something, which means it is sensitive to you.

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Thus, an easy mark.

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:21 PM

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look whats your issue when calling me underage and immature?

dense wasp Jan 21, 2020, 6:21 PM

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Chill dudes:)
Im outta here for now thou

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:21 PM

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you need to chill down buddy

jade ermine Jan 21, 2020, 6:22 PM

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If you have fps issues you should upgrade your profile to Titan rtx owner

dense wasp Jan 21, 2020, 6:22 PM

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Wife’s waiting

dusty pumice Jan 21, 2020, 6:22 PM

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You need to stop adding me and ill stop typing

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and ill drop the convo

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:22 PM

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well thx ludvig

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hf mate

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@dusty pumice happy now you 🙂

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dusty pumice Jan 21, 2020, 6:24 PM

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Stop @ ing me pls

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:24 PM

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are you happy now tho 🙂

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tell me

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buddy are you

dusty pumice Jan 21, 2020, 6:24 PM

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Otherwise i will take actions against you like you did against me

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:25 PM

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look tell me you are happy and then i can block you in peace

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❤️

brisk badger Jan 21, 2020, 6:25 PM

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I hope we can have here one day a contest of the most ugliest pc build and the best pc build

dusty pumice Jan 21, 2020, 6:25 PM

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Just block me already i am way too busy to be dealing with you

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:25 PM

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as you wish 🙂

dusty pumice Jan 21, 2020, 6:25 PM

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@brisk badger i am already planning on a ugly RGB build

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Just give me a build price limit

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and i am down to join

brisk badger Jan 21, 2020, 6:26 PM

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i could post mine, I may be winning the ugliest build

dusty pumice Jan 21, 2020, 6:26 PM

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I havent built an ugliest yet so yea

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theres that lmfao

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 6:26 PM

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I would win in ugliest camera quality PirateSimon

dusty pumice Jan 21, 2020, 6:26 PM

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I would too lmfao

brisk badger Jan 21, 2020, 6:26 PM

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📎 IMG_20200121_192624.jpg

dusty pumice Jan 21, 2020, 6:26 PM

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Would just grab my iphone 3 and take a pic

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:26 PM

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@vapid crypt so should the OC'ing my ram help me with my 9900k performance

brisk badger Jan 21, 2020, 6:26 PM

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😎

dusty pumice Jan 21, 2020, 6:26 PM

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But wooza thats disgusting not ugly

brisk badger Jan 21, 2020, 6:26 PM

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dont mind the dust

dusty pumice Jan 21, 2020, 6:27 PM

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😱

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 6:27 PM

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Uh possibly?

brisk badger Jan 21, 2020, 6:27 PM

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okay, I win in the third category then

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 6:27 PM

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I would look into learning what kind of memory modules your RAM has, be it Samsung, Hynix, Micron

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:27 PM

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oh how do i find that out

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😄

brisk badger Jan 21, 2020, 6:27 PM

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📎 IMG_20200121_192740.jpg

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the home servers

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look a bit better

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 6:28 PM

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Uh the manufacturer might list it, its not always the case though

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:28 PM

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@brisk badger looks cute XD

dusty pumice Jan 21, 2020, 6:28 PM

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<<< server? or both are?

brisk badger Jan 21, 2020, 6:28 PM

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these fucking 30usd bench table break at any time

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 6:28 PM

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Maybe just look into RAM overclocking and how to go about it, if its a 2133 kit, I mean who knows how well it will overclock

jade ermine Jan 21, 2020, 6:28 PM

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Cases are overrated

brisk badger Jan 21, 2020, 6:28 PM

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both are used as servers. but is consumer hardware

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 6:29 PM

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Maybe you could get 2666 at CL 16 or something

turbid glen Jan 21, 2020, 6:29 PM

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But GTFO what rely on more?
CPU or GPU?

jade ermine Jan 21, 2020, 6:29 PM

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GPU

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 6:29 PM

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Uh GPU for sure

brisk badger Jan 21, 2020, 6:29 PM

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GPU, till the release horde mode

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:29 PM

#

@vapid crypt *HyperX PnP memory will run in most DDR4 systems up to the speed allowed by the manufacturer's system BIOS. PnP cannot increase the system memory speed faster than is allowed by the manufacturer's BIOS.

turbid glen Jan 21, 2020, 6:29 PM

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Oh well, so a potato pc with a nice gpu can run it

jade ermine Jan 21, 2020, 6:29 PM

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Most likely

brisk badger Jan 21, 2020, 6:29 PM

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just dont be the host :p

jade ermine Jan 21, 2020, 6:29 PM

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I mean there is a limit if your CPU is total relic

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 6:30 PM

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Well the memory is a limiting factor as is the motherboard

turbid glen Jan 21, 2020, 6:30 PM

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Oh nono, I'm not talking about my pc

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:30 PM

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AH then my mobo is fine XD

turbid glen Jan 21, 2020, 6:30 PM

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It's for a friend

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I'm perfectly fine

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 6:30 PM

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Potato CPU, I mean how old are we talking?

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:30 PM

#

Auto overclocks up to 2666MHz*

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->

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but it does not auto oc

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xd

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 6:31 PM

#

I don't think auto overclocking memory is a thing outside of xmp

#

You're gonna have to figure it out manually

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:31 PM

#

damn manually XD

turbid glen Jan 21, 2020, 6:31 PM

#

@vapid crypt something like an i5-4000 sorta

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 6:31 PM

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Then that's most likely fine

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:31 PM

#

ok then ill report back once i OC it to 2666-3133

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 6:31 PM

#

That meets minimum requirements

merry bay Jan 21, 2020, 6:31 PM

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RAM come with stickers on them with their rated speeds. If you don't know the model, just physically look at your sticks.

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:32 PM

#

dammit

#

sec

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 6:32 PM

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Yeah its 2133, which likely means its some cheap hynix down binned sticks or something

turbid glen Jan 21, 2020, 6:32 PM

#

When I saw the trailer of GTFO i was worried "another Star Citizen heavy work?"

brisk badger Jan 21, 2020, 6:32 PM

#

overclocking ram frequencies can get your ram lower then when it was at a lower speed

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:32 PM

#

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vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 6:32 PM

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Dunno if you'd be able to overclock it much

brisk badger Jan 21, 2020, 6:32 PM

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IMO commandrate is yet the most important feature of RAM and should be 1 CR

turbid glen Jan 21, 2020, 6:32 PM

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My ram came with 3200hz but in BIOS was setted on 3000hz, it's normal?

merry bay Jan 21, 2020, 6:33 PM

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📎 unknown.png

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:33 PM

#

ye see

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2133

#

see Xd

#

it does not change

jade ermine Jan 21, 2020, 6:33 PM

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@turbid glen You can probably manually set it to 3200mhz

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:33 PM

#

it stays fu

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 6:33 PM

#

There could be a motherboard limitation with it

merry bay Jan 21, 2020, 6:33 PM

#

It's only at 1.2V though, should be able to push it at least a little bit

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:33 PM

#

oh also @merry bay the timings are

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 6:33 PM

#

Like I have a 3000mhz kit, but it'll only run at 2933

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:34 PM

#

C14 - 14 14 14 34

jade ermine Jan 21, 2020, 6:34 PM

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@abstract kite Thats where its rated as. It's working as intended

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:34 PM

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im confused unlucky

turbid glen Jan 21, 2020, 6:34 PM

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If that was normal so I don't have to worry much, already setted on 3200@jade ermine

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:34 PM

#

am i not supposed to run like 2666 as it says

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or smth

merry bay Jan 21, 2020, 6:34 PM

#

It says 2133

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:34 PM

#

this shit confuses me

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 6:34 PM

#

Oh does the motherboard allow 2666 overclocking?

jade ermine Jan 21, 2020, 6:34 PM

#

You just said its 2133mhz kit

#

lol

turbid glen Jan 21, 2020, 6:34 PM

#

Boi, think about that, now the game is light and doesnt need a lot of specs

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:35 PM

#

📎 unknown.png

turbid glen Jan 21, 2020, 6:35 PM

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But when the release comes...

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:35 PM

#

bought this ones

merry bay Jan 21, 2020, 6:35 PM

#

@abstract kite your pic has a model number, googling that it shows a 2133 kit

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:35 PM

#

yea

#

and these ones im on

jade ermine Jan 21, 2020, 6:35 PM

#

@abstract kite *up to

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:35 PM

#

are 2133 too

#

but it never went pass 2133

#

?

#

even with xmp

merry bay Jan 21, 2020, 6:35 PM

#

It's not supposed to

jade ermine Jan 21, 2020, 6:35 PM

#

XMP profile frequenzy is printed on that sticker

#

on the stick

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:36 PM

#

so basically

#

2133 mhz is the max it can go

#

thats dog shit

jade ermine Jan 21, 2020, 6:36 PM

#

So basically if you buy lets say trident z memory kit.
They come in alot of different speeds

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 6:36 PM

#

Its the max rated and tested frequency yeah

merry bay Jan 21, 2020, 6:36 PM

#

XMP is literally one profile of basic RAM timings. The timings on the sticker(the ones you chose to buy). It's meant to run at that speed.

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 6:36 PM

#

Which might mean its bottom of the barrel modules

brisk badger Jan 21, 2020, 6:36 PM

#

for all ram'ers:

(CAS latency/RAM clock speed) x 2000 = latency in nanoseconds

now do the math if frequency == more speed

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:37 PM

#

ah okay, well guess ill just buy new ram lol

merry bay Jan 21, 2020, 6:37 PM

#

You can try overclocking past that and testing to see if it works. A lot of trial and error

jade ermine Jan 21, 2020, 6:37 PM

#

You will not gain that much gaming performance going from 2133mhz -> 3200mhz
Especially on intel

#

Don't sweat it

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:38 PM

#

all i want is my 100 fps back

#

legit

#

ok i forgot to mention

#

i used to get 500-700 fps on mc

#

and like 300 fps in csgo

#

all the time

#

and now it droped to 150 fps in mc

#

and in csgo it usually is 250 fps

#

same applies to r6s

jade ermine Jan 21, 2020, 6:38 PM

#

And you are blaming your memory for it or what

#

?

brisk badger Jan 21, 2020, 6:39 PM

#

hello spectre and meltdown

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 6:39 PM

#

500 fps in minecraft to 150

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:39 PM

#

actually people suggested it might be my memory

#

but im not sure

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 6:39 PM

#

Are you sure it isn't just a setting that's changed?

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:39 PM

#

im kinda not sure what caused my fps drop

#

yeah thats the issue

#

it might be mobo setting

#

might be ram

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 6:39 PM

#

Oh right I forgot about spectre, meltdown, zombieload, netcat

jade ermine Jan 21, 2020, 6:39 PM

#

500 -> 150
still probably over monitors refresh rate

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:39 PM

#

i have 240hz

#

gsync

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 6:39 PM

#

All those vulnerabilities forcing intel to patch their processors

dusty pumice Jan 21, 2020, 6:40 PM

#

Lmfao @vapid crypt please stop 🤪

#

im dealing with that as we speak right now

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 6:40 PM

#

I mean its good to know about phaWesker

dusty pumice Jan 21, 2020, 6:40 PM

#

Yeah just gives me nightmares

#

everytime i hear it lmfao

astral socket Jan 21, 2020, 6:40 PM

#

Do others experience that the enemies show its attack after it has actually done it to me so i take damage and then see it to the attack?

dusty pumice Jan 21, 2020, 6:40 PM

#

or see it in lines of text

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:40 PM

#

whats better 2x16 ddr4 or 4x8

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 6:40 PM

#

I think Zombieload got worse or something

#

That's dependent on how much memory you'll need 16gb is fine for most cases

brisk badger Jan 21, 2020, 6:41 PM

#

2x16 will put much less load on the IMC (integrated memory controller located on your CPU) compared to 4x8 which results in higher overclocks or lower IMC voltages

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 6:42 PM

#

Oh I misread actually phaWesker

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:42 PM

#

i mean money speaks 2x8 is much better choice with 3200Mhz than 2x16

#

i mean do games really need 32gb?

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 6:42 PM

#

No not at the moment

#

Maybe in 3 years?

brisk badger Jan 21, 2020, 6:42 PM

#

having all 4 rows filled puts additional stress your CPU to find addresses etc. can play a significant if you squeeze out every single MHz

#

16GB is perfectly fine for games

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:43 PM

#

ah also i do music

#

hence why i needed 9900k

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 6:43 PM

#

So you're likely what, recording and compressing audio

brisk badger Jan 21, 2020, 6:43 PM

#

does producing music costs a lot of power?

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:43 PM

#

ok basically i cant tell u the numbers but on my old 7700k

#

used to get upto 90%

#

on like barely half of a song

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 6:44 PM

#

How much memory are you using while doing that?

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:44 PM

#

and usually crashed when i was finishing the song

#

which was 4min long

#

16 gb lol

#

wait

#

umm i guess its like 60% on memory

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 6:44 PM

#

No I mean the max load

#

Oh okay

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:44 PM

#

on cpu its barley like 30% XD

#

when full song is done

#

and makes it much easier

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 6:45 PM

#

So not really a necessary upgrade, if you wanted to do video editing and the like maybe you would see benefit in more memory though

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:45 PM

#

well i do whole package

#

streaming x music x gaming

#

also plan to upgrade rtx 3070

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 6:46 PM

#

Do you typically stream your music sessions?

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:46 PM

#

nope

#

but might do them

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 6:46 PM

#

Oh okay, well then maybe you would benefit in that case

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:47 PM

#

yup

#

my current obs settings are rly tight XD

#

8k bitrate

#

slow cpu preset

#

cause the pixelation is insane when im like 6k bitrate

merry bay Jan 21, 2020, 6:48 PM

#

to where do you stream?

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:48 PM

#

twitch

merry bay Jan 21, 2020, 6:48 PM

#

isn't twitch capped at 6k?

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:48 PM

#

ik what u will prolly say

#

apperently it is but its not

brisk badger Jan 21, 2020, 6:48 PM

#

what I dont understand about streamers:

#

why don't most of them not just create a second box for encoding etc?

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:48 PM

#

second box?

brisk badger Jan 21, 2020, 6:48 PM

#

seems cheaper

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:48 PM

#

never heard about that

#

oh new pc

brisk badger Jan 21, 2020, 6:49 PM

#

a second computer

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:49 PM

#

second pc

#

yeah XD umm

#

about that

#

i dont have space

jade ermine Jan 21, 2020, 6:49 PM

#

How about nvenc

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:49 PM

#

well nvenc looks 30% worse

#

with same 8k bitrate

#

and puts like 90% usage on my gpu

brisk badger Jan 21, 2020, 6:49 PM

#

idk, it feels like this is a huge commitment

merry bay Jan 21, 2020, 6:49 PM

#

a budget PC would do a crap job for CPU encoding

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:50 PM

#

i dont plan to go full ninja mode XD

#

i just do it for like fun i guess

brisk badger Jan 21, 2020, 6:50 PM

#

just buy a 32x opteron cpu last gen hehe

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:50 PM

#

when i feel like it

#

lmao

brisk badger Jan 21, 2020, 6:51 PM

#

idk. to be honest I am kind of happy that I grew old before streaming was a thing. It's not my type nor do I understand why people watch streamers every day

#

it's probably having some sort of connection to the streamer?

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:51 PM

#

i just like watchingxQc

#

im addicted to him

jade ermine Jan 21, 2020, 6:51 PM

#

kids love streaming

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:51 PM

#

not sure why but i mostly dont have social life

brisk badger Jan 21, 2020, 6:51 PM

#

i tried watching him

jade ermine Jan 21, 2020, 6:52 PM

#

big thing now

#

everybody wants to feel popular

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:52 PM

#

^^

#

i in particular just stream not even knowing im doing it.. + i am in a trance with my music

#

dont care if its ear raping

#

for viewers

#

XD

#

but yeah i have a lot of free time

brisk badger Jan 21, 2020, 6:52 PM

#

is it by any chance, trance music?

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:52 PM

#

no

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dubstep deathstep neuro

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riddim

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xd

brisk badger Jan 21, 2020, 6:53 PM

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okay, totally different :p

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:53 PM

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ye

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most people hate that shit

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 6:53 PM

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Should toss in some Hardbass PirateSimon

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:53 PM

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so im like 1 viewer

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so yeah as i said

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i dont do it prof

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i dont even use mic

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cam

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but i do give decent quality atleast

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where i did pop off was when i was doing puzzle adventure games

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but yeh not much games offer that anymore

merry bay Jan 21, 2020, 6:54 PM

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going high quality can hurt your stream if you're not affiliate yet(no quality options)
High bitrate unwatchable with a meh connection(most likely mobile users)

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:55 PM

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ya im affiliated

brisk badger Jan 21, 2020, 6:55 PM

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i don't meant to criticize you btw. There is people that are good in what they do, I hope for you the best with streaming, always have a plan b

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:55 PM

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nahh i dont know what im good with

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im actually pretty fucked up with depression

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idk if anyone of you know this lol

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hence why im addicted to xqc

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he streams like 9 hours 10 hours

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helps me being focused and not think about my shit life

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but yeahhh

brisk badger Jan 21, 2020, 6:56 PM

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not from writing about hardware :p

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:56 PM

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music was also way out

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lmao

brisk badger Jan 21, 2020, 6:56 PM

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find something you can do in your free time. music is a good example

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:56 PM

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but its becoming

brisk badger Jan 21, 2020, 6:56 PM

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you still go to school?

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:56 PM

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boring

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i go to private one

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and mostly when i work all money goes to it

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😦

brisk badger Jan 21, 2020, 6:57 PM

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any thoughts of what you want to become later?

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your parents do not pay for it?

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:57 PM

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not even slight

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parents hate me if you want to know more about my life i can dm u lol... its hard to explain my life situation

brisk badger Jan 21, 2020, 6:58 PM

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you like hardware and pc's why not work in that section?

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:58 PM

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i had a huge talk with them a yr ago

brisk badger Jan 21, 2020, 6:58 PM

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oh I am sorry to hear mate

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 6:58 PM

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i work in pc I.T storage department

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anyhow the story is

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they had a talk explained how i was not rly planned

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country didnt allow abortion

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etc

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and giving away

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so they kept me and not much attention given + umm i was diagnosed with aspergers disorder and depressiob

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so yeah i kinda

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well im like fully anti social lol or atleast in top anti social people

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so yeah music and gaming kinda kept me in place

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but the older i get the harder it is

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i wanna go out but i cant due to the phobias

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and the people that inv me are usually triggering me

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and i dont feel slightly good with hanging out

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but yeah i do with in I.T storage department

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usually like data base

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and checking if the units are all set

brisk badger Jan 21, 2020, 7:01 PM

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that's cool! (your job) you have chances to get promotion or expand to some other jobs?

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 7:01 PM

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im kinda not working

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as im trying to pass my grade

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but i doubt

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ill likely fail

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as i havent completed shit

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😭

brisk badger Jan 21, 2020, 7:01 PM

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you trying to get some certificates?

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 7:01 PM

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actually yea

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i plan to finish just that basic high school for that certain

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territory

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and then pay like private classes

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for certification

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to get easier way to get a job lol

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but i really dont know what i plan to do lol that i like

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well i could say i wanted to always work in scientific research department

brisk badger Jan 21, 2020, 7:03 PM

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What I can personally recommend for a start in the IT is this cert: CompTIA A+ ( https://www.comptia.org/certifications/a )
Trust me you will already know like 75% of it if you know PC hardware. It's a good way to start yout IT journey

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 7:03 PM

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to kinda develop new tech for humanity

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and improve humans

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sort of what elon musk is doing

autumn wadi Jan 21, 2020, 7:04 PM

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Hey guys looking for some advice. Everytime I try and play this game I get BSODs. Only on this game. Anyone else have a similar issue?

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 7:04 PM

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aight well i noted it on my phone wooza

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thx for suggestion

brisk badger Jan 21, 2020, 7:04 PM

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I dont know. Elon Musk is great but I wouldn't want to be him :p he must work day and night

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if you ever plan doing this cert, you can always chat with me. I done the test a year ago

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 7:05 PM

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well i doubt thats gonna happend anytime soon XD

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i should have been finishing 3rd grade

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stuck in second

brisk badger Jan 21, 2020, 7:05 PM

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na take your time, make sure you do what you want, then start learning / preparing

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 7:05 PM

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what rly puts me down is

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i see avg people with avg iq finish school with ease

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but being so dumb

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xD

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and they like

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go out and get drunk and party

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but somehow have time to learn

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and get best grade

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im like wtf

merry bay Jan 21, 2020, 7:07 PM

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@autumn wadi If you overclocked any parts, try reverting those. Or disable XMP. Could be a long list of reasons, but this is what first comes to mind.

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 7:07 PM

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@brisk badger

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autumn wadi Jan 21, 2020, 7:07 PM

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No overclocking I made sure of that. Limited my framerate got rid of fullscreen, checked for viruses, drivers, etc

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 7:07 PM

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i plan to get this i guess

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which costs 1.815,03 euro

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->

brisk badger Jan 21, 2020, 7:08 PM

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that's a certificate? it's kind of expensive but yea, the higher they are, usually the cost much more

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 7:08 PM

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but yeah croatia does not offer many certsa

merry bay Jan 21, 2020, 7:08 PM

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@autumn wadi Can you give some specs? CPU, GPU, RAM?

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 7:08 PM

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as i would like to focus on umm

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java , html, sourcemod

brisk badger Jan 21, 2020, 7:09 PM

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the comptia A+ for reference costs ~330USD (but you have to do two tests = 600USD, stupid i know)

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 7:09 PM

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as i like software dev more than hardware

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as im really unpatience when it comes for parts n shit

autumn wadi Jan 21, 2020, 7:10 PM

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Nvidia Geforce RTX 2070
Intel I7-9700k

brisk badger Jan 21, 2020, 7:10 PM

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i spend 3 years in university doing programing to then find out that's not what I want. Then I run into a crisis, aborted university, collected 135 out of 160 points and have no bachelor. lol

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 7:10 PM

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damn how do you get patience

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i for once cant like have patience even for highschool

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i cant see myself in university or college

brisk badger Jan 21, 2020, 7:10 PM

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life goes on. Currently i am doing certificates in networking, pen testing and security in hope I can get a job in networking

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 7:11 PM

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😄

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my boss

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has like

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so many certs

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network, hardware, software

brisk badger Jan 21, 2020, 7:11 PM

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I mean you also have aspergers, that surely makes it difficult for school I guess

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 7:11 PM

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i remember installing like umm security cameras

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ah you see.. umm

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its kinda a curse

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and advantege

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like i love doing what i love and learn it like in matter of seconds

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like for example i passed I.T class without studying for it for this year but then again

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if i study math

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for 24 hours straight

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ill know for one day then my brain deletes it

oblique iron Jan 21, 2020, 7:12 PM

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tbh im doing comp science in year 2 rn and i feel lost asf

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 7:12 PM

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as it hates it

oblique iron Jan 21, 2020, 7:12 PM

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dont even wanna do it. but just doing it for the sake of it

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 7:12 PM

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yeah i kinda lost will for it... like the drawing subjects kill me

brisk badger Jan 21, 2020, 7:12 PM

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onii, you have to program?

oblique iron Jan 21, 2020, 7:12 PM

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yeh

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currently java

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 7:12 PM

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java is bae

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:3

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brb gonna go eat

oblique iron Jan 21, 2020, 7:12 PM

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its fun

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 7:13 PM

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again woozi thx for the cert suggestion

oblique iron Jan 21, 2020, 7:13 PM

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but i hate the maths and shit in teh course

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 7:13 PM

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ill see if we have it here

brisk badger Jan 21, 2020, 7:13 PM

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You learnt already object oriented programing?

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 7:13 PM

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so then i can just get it if its cheaper

oblique iron Jan 21, 2020, 7:13 PM

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yeh

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programmed this robot last year

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basic movements

brisk badger Jan 21, 2020, 7:13 PM

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yea I am no mathematician and had also no fun programing 😦

oblique iron Jan 21, 2020, 7:13 PM

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programming can be fine but its just the hardcore maths lmao

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too much big brain

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 7:14 PM

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2+2=4-3=1 QUICK MATHS

brisk badger Jan 21, 2020, 7:17 PM

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but also programming can include things. You later can become a tester, front end designer, scripter etc. Many possibilities, don't worry to be stuck as "programmer" solving hardcore math problems

merry bay Jan 21, 2020, 7:20 PM

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@autumn wadi Component age clearly not an issue. Did you see anything similar before? What other modern games have you played?(maybe you always had the issue, just components weren't being pushed over the edge) To your knowledge does it only happen with GTFO?
I'd be investigating:

Are your CPU voltages and clocks in the right ballpark. Some motherboards are wonky with Auto settings.
Could also be an old SSD/HDD creating errors that turn into bluescreens.
CrystalDiskInfo can help diagnose.
Might even be something as rare as faulty RAM.
If you have a spare USB lying around, get Memtest86 on it and boot from USB.

autumn wadi Jan 21, 2020, 7:21 PM

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Memtest is a good idea.and my CPU only bsods on this game. I play stuff like division 2, doom, league of legends, sins of a solar empire, anthem

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 7:22 PM

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Did you say what the error code was for the blue screens?

autumn wadi Jan 21, 2020, 7:23 PM

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Whea uncorrectable error which makes me think hardware

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But the issue only presents in this game

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 7:24 PM

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About how long do you play before the blue screen occurs

autumn wadi Jan 21, 2020, 7:25 PM

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Varies. Sometimes within a few mins and other times i can nearly complete a level

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 7:26 PM

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I've had a similar issue with a different game Nioh, though in that case it crashed the graphics drivers; with either the display crapping out or just a complete crash of all programs using them.

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Probably not driver related though, uh do you know what the cpu culling workload is set to; just out of curiosity

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That's a setting in the game

autumn wadi Jan 21, 2020, 7:28 PM

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No i am reinstalling the game now. I do remember trying to adjust it to see if it helped. No dice

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 7:29 PM

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Oh okay, uh you could have verified game files; but a full reinstall would do the same

autumn wadi Jan 21, 2020, 7:29 PM

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I have

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 7:30 PM

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phaSheva

autumn wadi Jan 21, 2020, 7:30 PM

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Did a dism scan, a chkdisc

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Need to buy a flash drive the memtest idea is good

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 7:32 PM

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One last question, cause I have experience with this one mistake that was causing blue screens for me shortly after building my pc. Is your memory installed in the second and fourth slots?

autumn wadi Jan 21, 2020, 7:32 PM

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4 pieces of dual channel 8gb

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 7:33 PM

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Oh okay

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Um I think one way to troubleshoot that would be to remove the second kit from the first and third slots, see if it stops blue screening

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Otherwise memtest would likely be more accurate

merry bay Jan 21, 2020, 7:35 PM

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It might not even be faulty, just unstable with XMP when 4 sticks are in.
Did you buy it as a single 4 piece kit or combine two 2x8? Do you know the speeds or model number for your RAM?

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If it's on the high side, unstable XMP is likely

brisk badger Jan 21, 2020, 7:36 PM

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Not sure if my statement is right, but if RAM is corrupt, then it should not be able to create a BSOD

autumn wadi Jan 21, 2020, 7:37 PM

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Single kit

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How do i disable zm

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Xmp

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Looked i. Bios no option to

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 7:37 PM

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There should be an xmp option, what motherboard do you have?

autumn wadi Jan 21, 2020, 7:39 PM

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ASRock z390 phantom gaming r cb

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4 cb

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 7:39 PM

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Alright, that should be under the oc tweaker tab

autumn wadi Jan 21, 2020, 7:43 PM

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In the dram section but see no disable option

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 7:43 PM

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What options do you have?

autumn wadi Jan 21, 2020, 7:44 PM

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Load xmp setting
Bclk freq
Dram reference clock
Dram freq
Dram clock

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 7:45 PM

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There should be a drop down for xmp setting

merry bay Jan 21, 2020, 7:45 PM

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Opened a video with his bios. The options are auto and xmp

autumn wadi Jan 21, 2020, 7:45 PM

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Gives me the option of auto or profile 1

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 7:45 PM

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Set it to auto, that should run at base clock

autumn wadi Jan 21, 2020, 7:45 PM

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It was on auto. Try with profile 1?

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 7:46 PM

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Ah phaSheva

merry bay Jan 21, 2020, 7:46 PM

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If you go into DRAM Tweaker, is there any way to select JEDEC 1?

autumn wadi Jan 21, 2020, 7:46 PM

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Yes

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 7:46 PM

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Not running on XMP, I dunno if that would cause instability

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I think you answered this already but did you get 2 2x8 kits or just one 4x8 kit?

autumn wadi Jan 21, 2020, 7:47 PM

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One

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 7:47 PM

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Alright

autumn wadi Jan 21, 2020, 7:47 PM

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Try with jedec 1?

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 7:47 PM

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I haven't heard of base clocks causing instability in anything really

merry bay Jan 21, 2020, 7:48 PM

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Try saving BIOS settings with JEDEC 1

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essentially disabling XMP

autumn wadi Jan 21, 2020, 7:48 PM

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Done

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Will try and see if it fixes. Regardless thank you for your help

merry bay Jan 21, 2020, 7:49 PM

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Just curious, do you happen to remember the Freq for your XMP table?

viscid prism Jan 21, 2020, 7:49 PM

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This is the chat, i am too dumb to write in

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 7:50 PM

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Its okay, I'm just pretending to know what I'm talking about phaSip

viscid prism Jan 21, 2020, 7:50 PM

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oh

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oki

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I will do that too

merry bay Jan 21, 2020, 7:50 PM

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If you care enough to pretend, you'll slowly learn monkaHmm

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 7:51 PM

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mikewaYAYA

sick reef Jan 21, 2020, 7:51 PM

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Or never

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Depending

viscid prism Jan 21, 2020, 7:53 PM

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animecry

fringe bough Jan 21, 2020, 8:04 PM

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@autumn wadi not sure if you fixed the whea thing but did it start happening after you installed anything?

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for me it ended up being the hamachi driver

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after I uninstalled it I never had it happen again

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also if your under or overclocking if anything is done incorrectly obviously that will cause issues

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 8:22 PM

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God what a meme, I love you AMD for your cheaper Graphics Cards but you have so much to improve.

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Look at all those Issues xD

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(20.1.3 Drives)

fringe bough Jan 21, 2020, 8:44 PM

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ye or ne?

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for me high and low made little difference and seems to stay at 60+ most of the time. It only dips during scans

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 8:46 PM

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Nioh not working is pretty annoying cause I bought the game right at the end of the Holiday sale on Steam, and even if it did run on older drivers it still crashed constantly for whatever reason

fringe bough Jan 21, 2020, 8:47 PM

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well either way it is early access so its not like I'm expecting perfect optimization rn

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 8:48 PM

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Hang on the new driver says they fixed games crashing on launch like Nioh

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Well better get that installed later then

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 9:11 PM

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Says its a known issue. I don't think they fixed it.

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 9:53 PM

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You showed a screenshot for 20.1.2

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The latest driver is 20.1.3

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queen timber Jan 21, 2020, 10:32 PM

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My PC is a Dell XPS 8900
I have a Nvidia GeForce graphics card
A Nvidia(R) GeForce(R) GT 730 2G B DDR3
I have a 8GB DDR4 2133MHz SDRAM Memorary
And a 6th Gen Intel Core i5-6400 Processor, I’m also on Windows 10

Would really help if you could give me some setting best suited!

Because I only get 8-10 FPS and have basically everything at the lowest setting.

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@ me if anyone has suggestions PLEASE

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@dense wasp I believe you were the one who commented asking my specs on Twitter? Or am I wrong lol and if so apologies for the ping

dense wasp Jan 21, 2020, 10:39 PM

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You are at the lower end for sure, but 8-10 sounds harsh.
What resolution you on?

queen timber Jan 21, 2020, 10:40 PM

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Highest

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1920x1800? I believe

dense wasp Jan 21, 2020, 10:41 PM

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You could try lowering that to like.. 720p and see what difference that make

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It’s usually very demanding

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1280x720 that is

queen timber Jan 21, 2020, 10:41 PM

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Hehehe I’ll give that a try then

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Seriously hoping that helps! Cause I honestly enjoy the game a lot even at low frames

dense wasp Jan 21, 2020, 10:42 PM

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Could try cpu culling workload to large or whatever that settings brackets are called 🙂

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So it puts abut less stress on you gpu

queen timber Jan 21, 2020, 10:42 PM

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Kk

dense wasp Jan 21, 2020, 10:42 PM

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That’s nice to hear:)

fleet canopy Jan 21, 2020, 10:55 PM

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At least you’re not getting the FPS to be a bother for your fun haha. I used to play Payday 2 at 10-15FPS all the time lmao

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I still had tons of fun either way

abstract kite Jan 21, 2020, 11:13 PM

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:D

urban gulch Jan 21, 2020, 11:15 PM

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/477991118441807885/669284877962575872/servercrash.jpg

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"pls help repair"

vapid crypt Jan 21, 2020, 11:19 PM

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Poor Server rack phaCry

queen timber Jan 21, 2020, 11:43 PM

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@dense wasp AH Thank you so much!!! It runs at like a SOLID 30-40 fps now!!! ❤️ I can play with no issues WOOHOO!!

urban gulch Jan 21, 2020, 11:52 PM

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@queen timber Good luck into the darkness!

queen timber Jan 22, 2020, 12:09 AM

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Certainly will

maiden fiber Jan 22, 2020, 2:39 AM

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So this isn't pc build really but I'm wondering what's the best vr headset you can get if money isn't an issue

vapid crypt Jan 22, 2020, 2:41 AM

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Well I have no experience in this, but I've heard really good things about Valve's Index

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Its new and is the only set on the market to use 120hz screens

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As far as I remember looking up

maiden fiber Jan 22, 2020, 2:42 AM

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I also got tips for pimax I think it was called with 8k

vapid crypt Jan 22, 2020, 2:43 AM

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Oh never heard of em, looks like they also have a 120hz set

maiden fiber Jan 22, 2020, 2:45 AM

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Can also buy them bundled with the index controllers and base stations

vapid crypt Jan 22, 2020, 2:46 AM

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Looks pretty good phaSheva

maiden fiber Jan 22, 2020, 2:46 AM

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I think they also have 200 fov and eye tracking

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Going to get my double paycheck this weekend

vapid crypt Jan 22, 2020, 2:48 AM

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I think I just meet the recommended spec for most sets, If I had the extra cash I wouldn't mind getting something like that.

maiden fiber Jan 22, 2020, 2:51 AM

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My specs are no problem for those kinds of headsets

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I just beg I worked enough overtime during December

vapid crypt Jan 22, 2020, 2:52 AM

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For that 8k set I would need an upgrade for sure yeah, but for anything else its probably fine.

maiden fiber Jan 22, 2020, 2:55 AM

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But is it the best? I know that "best" can be determined by diffrent factors like if your looking for graphics or framerate or what type of screens are used

merry bay Jan 22, 2020, 2:59 AM

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From what I've heard about my friends the most important part about a VR headset is comfort and high refresh rate to reduce changes of getting motion sickness. A little early to expect a sharp image, currently can expect it to be good enough.

maiden fiber Jan 22, 2020, 2:59 AM

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But is 90 enough?

merry bay Jan 22, 2020, 2:59 AM

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Depends on the person tbh

vapid crypt Jan 22, 2020, 3:00 AM

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You'd have demo it out, its not something I've ever used personally either

maiden fiber Jan 22, 2020, 3:01 AM

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I've used the HTC vive pro at school and before that the school had the regular vive and that worked perfectly for hours without getting sick

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I kinda hogged it during a school sleepover when everyone was sleeping

vapid crypt Jan 22, 2020, 3:02 AM

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Those run at 90hz don't they?