Will block airflow
#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk
fleet canopy
torn ferry
I want the fans to be shown though. I kind of dislike that the non tempered glass front of the 220T blocks the fans kind of.
fleet canopy
NZXT can cover that I think
abstract kite
I like the effect, but I understand thats not for everyone
fleet canopy
Or Corsair
fleet canopy
Corsair's Carbide series are okay
torn ferry
Can you make the case cool enough if it has a tempered glass front?
abstract kite
fleet canopy
I mean, yeah
torn ferry
Corsair has the better RGB fans. XD
abstract kite
Just swap em out 😛
fleet canopy
This is what I got, if you'd like it
torn ferry
How much is that case?
fleet canopy
Mine?
abstract kite
Like so
torn ferry
The NZXT H510 Elite.
torn ferry
Is my SSD fine or should I buy a better one?
torn ferry
What else should I upgrade?
fleet canopy
Could you give full specs of your PC?
abstract kite
^
torn ferry
How can I get that? Do I need another software?
abstract kite
You should be able to link the specs of your PC from the place you bought it from
Exactly your PC though
that's crucial
torn ferry
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/ibuypower-gaming-desktop-intel-core-i7-8700k-16gb-memory-nvidia-rtx-2080-8gb-1tb-ssd-black-gray/6292003.p?skuId=6292003
@abstract kite this is it, specifications is in the dropdown.
fleet canopy
2666Mhz RAM
Nice
Seems like the company ain't an asshole for what they give on prebuilts
Haha! With the power of this tech related meme, I put the mods to embarrassment!
abstract kite
@formal ice
fleet canopy
Segsy
formal ice
@abstract kite
abstract kite
Corsair K95
abstract kite
What does it take for mobile game Development?
fleet canopy
Ok which ducky
Actually just DM the ducky keyboard @abstract kite I’ll check it out in the morning
torn ferry
I still want the one Asus case since the all ROG builds I’ve seen are pretty cool even if it is basically a tsunami destroying your bank account.
finite sentinel
Figured out why my windows died on me
the AMD chipset drivers provided by gigabyte are incompatible with the latest build of windows =/
and they only just released the updated set AFTER my windows died
AMD that is
Fresh install of windows at least... tho im gonna be installing again when i get my new driver =/ just couldn't wait a week without PC tho :p
median moon
F
finite sentinel
Yea, i updated windows on the 15th, they released the new chipset driver on the 16th
RIP
median moon
gamershotted by AMD
median moon
🤷♂️
finite sentinel
i used AMD exclusively up through athlon 64
then i won a contest for the I7 3930k
used that til this upgrade
abstract kite
Cryoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
finite sentinel
o/ sup bil?
median moon
bil nye
fleet junco
I'm using a i7 6700 right now and it's glorious.
Heywo Biilll
abstract kite
o/ whats up mina?
finite sentinel
Not much, just solvin problems
abstract kite
When are we gonna play GTFO Cryo lol
median moon
today i learned my laptop has an i5 7th gen
i am, frankly, very disappointed that it was $1200
finite sentinel
I need to get my DX Redists installed then install steam... then GTFO
median moon
GTFO raytracing when
finite sentinel
oh and im transfering my old appdata to my new install
fleet junco
Ooooff Glass..
median moon
yeah um
fleet junco
median moon
i was very, very computer illiterate two years ago
finite sentinel
got a crucial P1 1TB coming in the mail tho
fleet junco
Wtf.. only that for 1.2k?
finite sentinel
as if their specs are halfway decent
fleet junco
What a rip off
finite sentinel
prebuilt systems are ALWAYS a ripoff
median moon
what did you expect
lel
@finite sentinel hard facts
HP's omen is like $650 if you build it
finite sentinel
my laptop needs replaced...
fleet junco
I've never owned a laptop, nor do I intend to.
finite sentinel
laptops are good if you travel
median moon
^^
which i do a lot
but holy good mother of ryzen they are EXPENSIVE for their specs
finite sentinel
yea
PCs are twice as fast for half as much -_-
well
not so much these days
more like just twice as fast
finite sentinel
you gotta know where to shop
median moon
ryzen 4800U is set to outperform the desktop i7
finite sentinel
ugh UAC is so fking annoying
abstract kite
I'm super excited for what 4000 will be
since the 4800U is gonna kick desktop i7s
or rumored to do so
finite sentinel
I'm pretty proud of the deals i managed to get for my rebuild
Microsoft is REALLY pissing me off
my key for win10 is legit but they want me to purchase a new key for my new hardware
and im like wtf is this bs -_-
finite sentinel
They'll never get it!
median moon
you bought a key of win10
finite sentinel
nope!
median moon
my key for win10 is legit
@finite sentinel
finite sentinel
yea i didn't pay for it though, it was given to me
median moon
oh
finite sentinel
friend worked at intel
abstract kite
Mina
finite sentinel
Got me the key while win10 was still in development
median moon
intel
i feel bad for them man
finite sentinel
yea they're like slave labor for her
abstract kite
Ouch
finite sentinel
she ran her whole fking department
abstract kite
Btw you can always buy CD keys from third party sites
finite sentinel
no one else knew how to do the shit she did, she had to trade
abstract kite
for like a fifth of the cost
finite sentinel
i know Bil
median moon
i5 with a 2070S..?
finite sentinel
but i have a legit key so im just gonna KMSpico
median moon
maayy be a bit of bottlenecking
abstract kite
Fair enough
median moon
👁️
abstract kite
@abstract kite Is this a prebuilt or are you building this yourself?
prebuilt from nzxt
median moon
oh.
abstract kite
Can you upgrade it to an i7?
finite sentinel
how's the price?
abstract kite
That will last you longer if you can afford it
median moon
^
finite sentinel
I'm gonna be brutally honest... any idiot can put together a PC
median moon
ow heck
finite sentinel
if you can put together Ikea furniture you can put together a PC
oof popcorn is deadly
abstract kite
Intel Core i5-9600K 6-Core 3.7 GHz
OR.
Intel Core i7-9700F 8-Core 3.0 GHz
abstract kite
@abstract kite i7-9700KF is fine
finite sentinel
that clock is pretty low
abstract kite
Wait
finite sentinel
Honestly price is the most important factor
abstract kite
actual 9700F?
not mistype?
i7-9700kf is 360
Ah ok
on nzxt
Let me take a look myself real quick
abstract kite
@abstract kite what's your budget, and can you sent me a link to the parts you're looking at?
my budget is 1500-1600
abstract kite
right now i have a 750 ti paired with a pentium g3258
finite sentinel
1500-1600 goes a lot farther if you build yourself
median moon
^
abstract kite
what is OC
finite sentinel
nevermind
median moon
wew.
abstract kite
overclocking?
finite sentinel
yes
median moon
yeah
finite sentinel
somehow i think it's not a significant OC
i've heard people getting over 5Ghz with that
median moon
WEw
abstract kite
fans get really loud tho
median moon
vacuum cooling
finite sentinel
probably clocking at 4-4.2
i honestly forget the base clock of that
cause i've never heard of anyone running it at base XD
abstract kite
@abstract kite you looking at it?
@abstract kite You jump tons in performance in anthem if you switch to a Ryzen system for the same price
finite sentinel
Anthem is ROUGH on the post processing
median moon
jointeamred
finite sentinel
that's the entire reason i had to upgrade
post processing was kicking the ass of my 3930k
abstract kite
intel or amd?
abstract kite
I think I got something that would be perfect for ya
But first I want to ask
@abstract kite what all will you be using this PC for?
editing, 3d rendering, gaming, recording
streaming
median moon
do you think ROBLOX Studio is a multi thread application
finite sentinel
i know nothing of this
median moon
nice
finite sentinel
I honestly think Ryzen is the best choice for the budget given it's prebuilt
but you need good RAM
finite sentinel
I went a bit overboard with mine i think
abstract kite
video editing
finite sentinel
viper steel 4400mhz
median moon
DDR4-3200 should suffice and it's pretty cheap
abstract kite
Okay so then
median moon
32GB is only ~$110
abstract kite
I got you fam
median moon
wew
finite sentinel
amazon sent me 2 dead kits
finite sentinel
yea 32GB viper steel 4400mhz, i got one set for free because the first set was dead, second set was dead on arrival as well
so i RMA'd them both
median moon
nice
median moon
goddamnitthereisapopcornkernelstuckundermyTOOTH
finite sentinel
oof
median moon
crisis averted, kernel removed
finite sentinel
but yea this is some of the fastest ram you can get so i lucked out big time
i was expecting to have to pay another 150
finite sentinel
i looked at a bunch of benchmarks
it's not worth the extra price honestly
BUT
i did get it for the low low price of 130 in teh end
so i majorly lucked out
median moon
fair
finite sentinel
ugh i feel sick... i think the leftovers were a little turnt
median moon
smash bros
finite sentinel
You're not supposed to remember wicked things like that!
median moon
i tend to forget everything before 11:30pm and remember everything past it in the morning
finite sentinel
i forget a lot... often... i wish i didn't
abstract kite
500 watts?
isnt that a little underpowered
@abstract kite https://www.letsbld.com/bld/step4?price=1500&draft=2338549954
Part list:
Ryzen 3700X
NZXT Kraken X52 AIO
Asus Strix B450 Mobo
16GB G.Skill 3200mhz Memory
EVGA 700W Power Supply
Zotac RTX 2070 Super
1TB Intel 660p
You will most definitely want to upgrade your storage later on, but that is a sufficient build from NZXT.
THANK YOU BILL
finite sentinel
glass that build seems a little overpriced <.<
finite sentinel
well i mean, like... 200-300 more will literally double the power
abstract kite
@abstract kite No problem! I hope it serves you well
finite sentinel
That's a solid build @abstract kite
median moon
indeed
abstract kite
Now I must sleep
median moon
goodnight bil
abstract kite
I have a date with some people early tomorrow morning for some GTFO monster headbonking
finite sentinel
This is most of my build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cMtkjp
not all of it tho
i'll sleep once my tummy calms
median moon
AIO 😳
median moon
they look nasty on the wallet >->
median moon
5TB of total storage
i feel like i'm the only person that prefers one monitor over several
abstract kite
I'm buying a secondary for my VMs and such, but I would love to stick with one larger monitor. I like to keep Parrot and Zorin open 24/7 though lol
okay now I go to bed
median moon
i only require one
i like having allll the shtuff in one display
no need to t u r n my head over
finite sentinel
i have a proper dual mount, no real head turning
besides, gotta exercise them neck muscles
left right left right!
up down up down!
brisk badger
Having two or even three monitors increases productivity by a lot. It really is useful. Not only for streaming🍆
dusty pumice
True that Wooza
dense wasp
I have 4,
But one for each computer, which does not help my productivity at all .. 😦
regal laurel
@finite sentinel Are you sure u need a 4400mhz kit? Since oc on ryzen is infinity fabric limited afaik
Unless you're hoping for good luck and be able to do like 3800mhz with very low timings by picking a high rated one
- out of curiosity, why those two different SSHDs? cant really get my head around why you'd need the cache for one, and why two completely different ones 😮
and I see, gtfo is only 4 player coop so ludvig can somehow make use of his 4 pcs :x
fleet canopy
Doesn't have to be only 4 player coop
fleet junco
We're taking care of it.
marsh mesa
Please @dark haven keep this for PC build, this is not the place for memes.
dark haven
there is no more place for memes...
stable cliff
oof
jovial cliff
@fleet canopy I have a steam link also collecting dust.
final scaffold
anyone here playing the game on a gtx 1070?
fleet canopy
Bil Learz, uhhh
hexed horizon
Mayo
fleet canopy
2 others maybe
hexed horizon
what the fuck have you done to the Steam controller
fleet canopy
That's not mine
Pulled it off reddit
Mine has dust but not that much
Just like a thin layer that makes it look like it was left there for 3 weeks
torn ferry
Do you have to open both sides of your case when cleaning out a PC of dust?
fleet canopy
Eh, I guess that's on choice. But it's best I guess, to get the dust out easy
Do it outside too
fleet canopy
I mean, there's always bound to be dust on the other side of it though
torn ferry
I’ve never opened up my PC before other than the one time when it shipped to remove the foam packaging.
sick reef
Don't know if it would be that much, neither if it would matter.
Well, you open up the side that shows all the parts.
The other side will just be a wall.
torn ferry
I am thinking of doing a case swap, but unsure what case to go with.
dusty pumice
What case u got now?
sick reef
That doesn't really look XBox at all. It looks like a Fractal R4, but smaller, glass side, and likely very poor airflow front, and airflow fans instead of pull fans.
But that's only likely because they're cheaper.
Anyway, that means high temps for no reason.
fleet canopy
Yes
Size: Standard
Ok
Such a really bad description lmao
ATX was what he had said
sick reef
Yeah?
fleet canopy
Mhm
sick reef
Just take the inner measurements, but with better fans, I don't see a real need to change the case unless that's one's point.
It's usually part of the technical data of the case itself.
If one wants to speculate.
sick reef
Is that an inner measure, or just an outer one.
fleet canopy
It just said product dimensions, manufactures sucks ass at giving info
sick reef
They don't.
Resellers do.
Manufacturers are usually pretty good at giving at least basic info.
fleet canopy
It's from iBuyPower, not sure what the hell they are tbh
torn ferry
I can tell you what model the PC is.
sick reef
It'd just be the IBP model.
Then you'd have to look up what case they buy for their model
torn ferry
It’s the BB952 model. I sent the link to the Best Buy page yesterday.
fleet canopy
17x17x7.9 in inches ish
fleet canopy
Bleh
sick reef
As I've said a few times
Jack shit
He could just measure the inner diameter himself if he's so intent on knowing.
Then compare that to technical data on cases he would prefer.
As to thus know if the parts he has fits in another case.
torn ferry
sick reef
Yeah, that's good if you're an interior designer, but I assume what you want is to switch out the parts from that computer to another case.
Not redecoreate your room.
torn ferry
I might even buy new parts maybe.
torn ferry
Gaming only for now until I decide my true calling in life if I want to be a game designer or not.
sick reef
Well, why do you not try game designing with you current build, and find out?
And upgrade when you need to.
fleet canopy
Your PC is great enough for game designing
obtuse narwhal
Yeah unless you’re doing art work and rendering and nonsense, you won’t need more than a gaming rig can offer
fleet canopy
Now unless you really wanna do game designing and know you'll do it as a career
Just try it out for now
sick reef
Well, if it's still in the prospective stage, is it then not better to simply try it, and see how it goes, and combat issues as they arrive.
Don't buy the full suit of armour just because suddenly want to do recreational battles
torn ferry
I was in college for game designing a year ago, but then some mental shit happened and my life got all sorts of fucked up that I needed a medical withdrawal and I was advised to take a gap year and work full time.
subtle vale
I can say that game design isint to taxing. Went to game development college 2 years ago, did it on my old rig which was fx-9590 and 390x and that did not have a single problem in any program related to the work
torn ferry
I’m not sure if I want to do game development since I struggled mightily in the 200+ classes.
fleet canopy
Then it might not be for you?
There's always another career where you get to play around with your computer
sick reef
Feels like you're quite uncertain Shawn. What do you want to do?
fleet canopy
Doesn't just have to be designing
You might not be too interested in game design, but you may be interested in programming
fleet canopy
Doesn't mean you can't learn programming. It's got a lot of classes
torn ferry
Well, maybe unwrapping.
fleet canopy
Blender is animation
fleet canopy
But yeah does have some modeling to it
torn ferry
The only experience I have with programming was making a text based game in 1st half of intro to programming class,
fleet canopy
Text based games are fun I guess
torn ferry
But then I struggled in the Object Oriented Programming section.
fleet canopy
Hm
dry shard
I thought I wanted to be a coder until I went to a coding summer camp when I was like 13 lol
After that I realized the last thing I ever want to do is be a coder.
fleet canopy
Kek
brisk badger
become a scripter
median moon
become a modeler
brisk badger
Also, I am curious what language you would learn with that age. I doubt they directly started with object-oriented languages, else I can feel you why you stopped
abstract kite
@final scaffold Hoi. Yes, I play on a GTX 1070. A friend of mine also plays with a 1070 (we have the brand of card to the SKU number)
Its a good card
Then game very GPU heavy, so you turn off Vsync (and have a decent/okay CPU), you can expect around 120FPS on max settings.
final scaffold
@abstract kite very happy to hear that
worthy forge
where do i go for that
viscid prism
The #bug-reporting
worthy forge
Ya I sent the report sorry for wrong chat
winged jacinth
That's a lot of Health @worthy forge XD
worthy forge
Ya and we had god mode like one hitting all the mobs with no charge mode
finite sentinel
@regal laurel The RAM was the highest rated and had some of the best benchmarks i saw for x570 chipset. The drives are different because that's just how buying new things over time and keeping the old stuff works 😛
SO amd's chipset drivers are fubar atm
windows won't load them =/
regal laurel
Oh I see :p I thought you were buying those drives new
Regarding the RAM, I just wanted to make sure you know that you'll not be getting 4400mhz or even 4000 on ryzen because you should stay in the "linked mode"(?) with the infinity fabric clock. This usually caps out between 1800 and 1900mhz, which means 3600-3800 on the ram. Unlinking the two afaik pretty much never gets you better performance.
finite sentinel
well i'm getting the 4400Mhz clock right now...
regal laurel
that kit is still obviously very good, so no reason to change unless you'd want to save some money by going for a lower clocked one
sure, go ahead :p nice kit
finite sentinel
no i mean it's clocked at 4400Mhz right now <.<
finite sentinel
well 2198
you know how it never runs at EXACTLY the stated speed
i need to reinstally my hardware monitoring suite
regal laurel
i've never heard of someone being able to run that high of a clock 😮 either your software is wrong or you've found a unicorn?
vapid crypt
The best 3800X 
finite sentinel
well let me download my monitoring suites
oh i have to reactivate the XMP profile... i was troubleshooting up til a minute ago
but i am aware the voltage exceeds the 1.35 the chipset limits to
vapid crypt
I don't think it was that high, it was barely matching i7s at the time so I doubt it
regal laurel
yeah it was barely there, but i'm pretty sure it was around that price initially
and the 9570? or 9470 whatever it was called was around 400-500$ iirc
they later cut the price in half cause noone bought em
found it actually
920$ for 9590 and 576$ for the 9370
finite sentinel
yea i am going to have to manually set my memory clock i think
craggy hornet
I have old PC (2012.) But is still very powerful PC. Dell Precision Workstation T7600 2x Intel Xeon E5-2690, 128GB DDR3 ECC reg. Hynix 1600MHz CL12, Nvidia GTX 1080 Ti, Delta Electronic D1300EF-00 1300W 180A.
regal laurel
casually has two xeons in his system ok
finite sentinel
no reason for xeons in a gaming rig though, use that for servers
regal laurel
yeah I dont think he'd be doing so well with 3ghz xeons from 2012
wow apparently those are sandy bridge, intel 2000 series stuff
finite sentinel
yea
i coulda told you that
sandy/ivy bridge were the last DDR3 cpus i believe from intel
regal laurel
I thought ivy brdige was 3000 ?
vapid crypt
Hashwell and its refreshes were the last of DDR3 weren't they?
finite sentinel
icy is 3000
regal laurel
and 4000 = haswell? haswell had ddr3
finite sentinel
and 3000 was DDR3 as well
well that was the transition
some boards had DDR3 and some DDR4 at that point i think?
i'm not 100%, i didn't get past ivybridge
regal laurel
hmm, doesn't ring a bell for me, thought it just went straight to ddr4 only for skylake
finite sentinel
but i had quad channel to make up the difference
I'm not sure honestly
i stopped following when i stopped having money
regal laurel
u had like a 3930k ?
finite sentinel
yes
regal laurel
neat, I used to dream of having that one :x
regal laurel
won?!
finite sentinel
it was like 800 at release?
regal laurel
uff not sure
finite sentinel
yea tomshardware contest
regal laurel
I think 3960x was like 999 and 3930 was 500-600
regal laurel
and now u have 8 cores for 350$, ez
finite sentinel
i paid 330 😄
and the memory i paid 130 and got 2 kits because the first i ordered was bad and they gave me a free replacement... which was also bad
RMA'd both sets
so got 32GB for 130
#worth
i'm not complaining
regal laurel
anyways, i'll let you figure out ur infinity fabric stuff, I just know they usually cap out at like 1800-1900mhz, never heard of 2000 and up
you seem to be getting a decent bit of free stuff
finite sentinel
well you don't have to run syncronous
I'm good at getting things for free somehow <.<
regal laurel
if u dont u get worse latency i think
there was some video by bullzoid and forums ig
finite sentinel
well this RAM has beastly timings as is
i know all about how memory works it's just you need to weight the benefits
pros/cons
i'd have to run benchmarks with syncronous vs asyncronous
regal laurel
and I see, he's used your exact kit to get 4174mhz at 12-12-12-28, so you'd be likely to get very low timings
vapid crypt
I see a buildzoid video, and I scream internally cause I won't understand half of it 
finite sentinel
well if you wanna see the timings this RAM has...
vapid crypt
Those timings though
finite sentinel
CURRENTLY it's 15-15-15-15-36 at 1065
multiply by 3
er 2
but i need to change the settings in bios
im just being lazy
vapid crypt
So its running base clock
finite sentinel
yea
regal laurel
as you can see in the video in the table, latency and performance drops off if you unlink
finite sentinel
it runs just fine in XMP though
i just need to get off my arse and reboot
but last time i rebooted windows wouldn't load because of drivers
damn windows update
DONT UPDATE TO 1909 if you havent!
regal laurel
3800 with 1900 = 65ns 55k read, 4266 with unlinked = 71ns and 53k
finite sentinel
here let me reboot and end this discussion :3 brb
vapid crypt
Yeah no issues here either
regal laurel
wasn't 1909 the one with (SKYNET OVERRIDE) as description?
finite sentinel
xmp wasn't running at the proper voltage but i manually changed it and now 2200mhz
it was trying to run at 1.2v...
vapid crypt
That should be at like 1.35 or 1.4 right? Strange 
regal laurel
2200mhz memory or 2200 fclk ?
finite sentinel
1.45 for this ram, 1.35 for standard 3200
vapid crypt
Scuffed Bios 
regal laurel
wel...
regal laurel
why not, I mean I'd be surprised ifu booted like that, but how about u try a stresstest?
finite sentinel
memtest64?
regal laurel
that or aida or so
finite sentinel
doesn't aida64 cost money?
regal laurel
u can use most stuff without payin
there's a mem test that lists like 80% of data and then blanks out rest with "TRIAL VERSION"
median moon
Your free trial of Discord™ has expired.
regal laurel
time to become a booster
finite sentinel
:p
ugh i just noticed there's something wrong with the xmp profile
i mean the xmp profile says 1.2v when that's just total BS <.< i think they need to push out a bios update
vapid crypt
I had weird bios issues with overclocking and what not with the first motherboard I got
Like the settings wouldn't apply and save, it'll just use whatever was set before
vapid crypt
In my case it wasn't just ram settings, but everything
vapid crypt
There's a Dram calculator for Ryzen that could help with that
finite sentinel
oh got a link?
finite sentinel
great thanks
gonna try xmp 2
it's 4.2 at 1.35
see if it works, then i can do the dram calculator
manually
sigh, oh windows why you suck so much
finite sentinel
Linux can't run most games without windows shell
rotund granite
Anyone who is having issues with the game running, I just started playing (Haven't even played a full round, just solo walking around by myself) and I run an Intel i7-4710HQ @ 2.5GHz, Nvidia GTX970M, 16GB RAM. I haven't bumped any settings down, done any overclocking, etc.. and I can manage around 30 frames consistently.. I know most PC snobs will laugh at that framerate but 30 frames is playable. Just trying to offer some hope to those folks who don't have much experience building PC/have money to.
fleet canopy
2080 Ti and 9900KS with 32GB of RAM with 3200MHz from a guy and runs it 25-45FPS lol
I know it's usually AMD doing good, like one user with 2600 and RX 580 running the game on 60+
So I'm not sure what it is tbh
More likely the mid range cards/CPUs run best I guess?
abstract kite
What’s good for mobile game development
patent needle
A phone
fleet canopy
Phone game made with PC
abstract kite
Yeah I wanna know what PC is good for mobile development
prisma mist
@fleet canopy Im running with worse Specs then that and managing 60 FPS max, with an average of maybe 50-
torn ferry
Are the Asus Ryuo and Ryujin coolers overpriced?
vapid crypt
All you have to do is look at the brand Asus, full stop; Yes
torn ferry
What brands have the best cases?
fiery nexus
NZXT is a decent brand IMO
torn ferry
How are the cases that don't have front facing fan mounts?
mint basalt
my case is a AeroCool Cylon RGB Gaming Case
torn ferry
Like the fans are on the side as opposed to the front?
mint basalt
fans are usually on the back
vapid crypt
You mean like the Lian Li o11 Dynamic or something
torn ferry
Yea, those kind of cases.
vapid crypt
I don't have one, but those cases are kind of made with radiator mounting in mind
Which is why its designed that way, to have room for pumps and the like. That case in particular I heard was a fantastic case though
Gotta bring your own fans, that's kind of the Lian Li way
torn ferry
How are Lian Li cases?
vapid crypt
Here's a review for that particular case, it was designed by an overclocker enthusiast I didn't actually know that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmYcKg0x4bw
So unlike most case layouts, it has support to pull in air from the bottom and exhaust to the top. Probably the most efficient way of doing it since heat rises
torn ferry
So far the case I've liked the most was the Crystal 680X.
fleet canopy
What do you like about it?
vapid crypt
Well here, this looks at cases released in 2019 and decides which are the best and well even worst at what they offer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2u8rGgYrRZY
torn ferry
@fleet canopy I like the dual chamber design of it.
fleet canopy
Dual chamber design?
vapid crypt
The back side panel houses the power supply, cable routing and the like
Its why its wider than most cases
Corsair has a case that has a similar design and like half the price though
torn ferry
Half the price but double the boring factor compared to the 680X.
torn ferry
The Air 540 looks like if prison was a computer.
torn ferry
What would you need an E-ATX motherboard for?
fleet canopy
Big size
vapid crypt
No idea
vapid crypt
I don't know what they utilize the extra space for
fleet canopy
Drives
vapid crypt
Maybe?
torn ferry
What can you do with an E-ATX motherboard?
vapid crypt
Not something I know much about
Seems to be a common form factor for the high end platforms, Threadripper, X299 and the like
torn ferry
The E-ATX boards I've seen were ones with 8 RAM slots, 4 on each side of the CPU.
fleet canopy
I mean yeah
vapid crypt
Yeah that's likely X299 or X399/TRX40
vapid crypt
The High end consumer platforms, it uses quad channel that's why there's so many dim slots
torn ferry
How much RAM is necessary these days?
vapid crypt
8gb is the minimum, 16gb is the sweetspot for most things, 32gb is kind of a soft limit
vapid crypt
I stream just fine with 16
32 is plenty for anyone at anytime, its more than enough really
torn ferry
Is it better to have four 8 GB sticks for 32 GB or two 16 GB sticks?
fleet canopy
16 is more likely gonna be the recommended for gaming because GTFO
2x8
2x16 for Dual channels
4x8 for quad
torn ferry
Is dual channel always the 2nd and 4th slot?
vapid crypt
Uh there's a video that compares that, it has something to do with memory ranks
fleet canopy
I think some go for 1st and 3rd, but that's pretty rare
vapid crypt
It seems to be dependent
torn ferry
How fast can a PC be built?
fleet canopy
Depends on your knowledge and skill
You're most likely going to build it in less than a day
Unless you get stuck on something or a part comes dead, then more than a day
vapid crypt
Took me like over 2 hours cause I well made mistakes
torn ferry
Should I keep or change my current graphics card?
vapid crypt
What do you have now, and what resolution/refresh rate monitor do you have?
torn ferry
I believe it is an MSI Ventus 8G OC RTX 2080
vapid crypt
Then likely no reason to upgrade that
torn ferry
1440p monitor, TN, 1 ms, 144 hz.
fleet canopy
2080 is a great card
You can also go for a VA or an IPS
I think those come for a little bit more pricy
vapid crypt
I mean as it is, literally there's only 3 cards better, the 2080 super isn't even 8% faster, then there's the 2080ti and the fucken Titan RTX
torn ferry
I was just scared that the backlight bleed from IPS monitors would be difficult to not notice.
fleet canopy
Not gonna note the Quadros?
vapid crypt
Who games on a Quadro?
fleet canopy
Someone did
vapid crypt
I'm sure
fleet canopy
With a Quadro 4000 or 6000
torn ferry
Should I keep the cooler or upgrade to a new one?
fleet canopy
Said it was like similar to a 2080 Ti idfk dude haha
vapid crypt
But the point is no one is buying Quadros to play games you know
fleet canopy
Yeah it's too overpriced and shit for gaming
vapid crypt
What are they like over 10 grand?
fleet canopy
I think 10K for 8000
6000 is like 5000?
They're not higher than 10K that's for sure
torn ferry
What is considered overpriced for a 240mm AIO?
vapid crypt
I'm of the opinion that AIOs are overpriced no matter what
fleet canopy
Plus thickheaded dummies go for Quadros to game with because they think the most expensive shit is so damn superior to a 2080 Ti
AIO is a no-no
Don't wanna go with liquid for me
vapid crypt
Actually that's not true, but most of them likely are if we're looking at price/performance
Arctic's Liquid Freezer line probably have the best price/performance for AIOs
They came out not too long ago, saw reviewers loving them
torn ferry
Are AIOs good or bad to have?
vapid crypt
There are cons to acknowledge, like compared to air; there's higher chance of failure. Cause you have the pump moving the liquid, there's a chance of a leak occurring; that's about it
fleet canopy
If you wish to not use any water coolers, go for a Dark Rock Pro 4 or a Noctua DH-15
vapid crypt
There are AIOs that apparently have leak proof designs, I don't know how true that is
Uh I would look at the Scythe Fuma 2 as well
fleet canopy
You can replace fans with some RGB ones kek
torn ferry
Is there such thing as an RGB air cooler that is not garbage?
vapid crypt
Why does it have to have RGB?
torn ferry
I like RGB everything, but not useless shit like an RGB headset stand.
vapid crypt
He needs it to get heated
fleet canopy
H e a t
Nah don't worry. It won't change a thing on how cool it gets
Just likely to miss out on pretty good perf
vapid crypt
I would say if it must have RGB, just get some static pressure fans from Corsair and slap em on a good heatsink cooler
I think they make the best rgb fans
vapid crypt
They're making Air coolers again apparently
fleet canopy
Again?
vapid crypt
I think they used to make em at one point, I could be wrong but I swear I heard someone say that
finite sentinel
the noctua DH-15 is great but i prefer my AIO, it runs 4 degrees cooler
grizzled wyvern
does GTFO run on extremely low end systems?
finite sentinel
define extremely low end
finite sentinel
i'm not familiar with r5m330
finite sentinel
well then it's not likely to run
finite sentinel
something new to me
nothing to compare it to
here's the question, what CAN you run?
grizzled wyvern
there is an integrated gpu and a seperate discrete card(r5m330) on my laptop but honestly both perform similarly so i dont get the point
finite sentinel
I'd imagine FO4 would have similar requirements?
what's the most intensive thing you know works?
finite sentinel
at a decent framerate?
finite sentinel
if you COULD run GTFO you'd probably get 20-30fps
vapid crypt
No, there isn't any way to try it
grizzled wyvern
actually i have a way but.
vapid crypt
grizzled wyvern
yep
vapid crypt
finite sentinel
yea i really doubt you can run it unfortunately
Minimum
Requires a 64-bit processor and operating system
OS: Windows 7 64-Bit or later
Processor: Intel Core i5 2500K or AMD equivalent
Memory: 8 GB RAM
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 2 GB or AMD equivalent
DirectX: Version 11
Network: Broadband Internet connection
Storage: 15 GB available space
your CPU is fine but GPU wise nope
grizzled wyvern
what is the lowest default resoultion options in the game
cuz i can change it from the ini file like i did with fortnite
finite sentinel
i have no idea sorry
merry bay
@grizzled wyvern Steam allows you to refund the game no questions asked if you have under 2 hours playtime. Should be enough to test it out.
Only if you buy it directly from Steam though
grizzled wyvern
its 2 weeks of owning it and less than 2 hrs of gameplay
finite sentinel
Should really try to upgrade somehow
fleet canopy
If it runs
It und
Runs*
If not
Refund
I’m not sure your laptop could play it very well though
finite sentinel
yea GTA V while pretty nice looking is still what? 7 years old?
finite sentinel
yea
and this is an early access game
when it comes to early access, it's hit or miss whether it'll run even on the best systems sometimes :p
grizzled wyvern
crysis XD
finite sentinel
i despise early access
It's the publisher saying "We don't want to pay for testers so you can pay to test for us!"
dense wasp
for us it's more " we're 9 devs who's been working on our game for almost 5 years and really want to continue doing so" 😉
finite sentinel
i see
Just make sure you keep workin on it then! Cracks her whip :3
Also that WAS a general statement. it's nice when there's an early access game that doesn't get lazy
median moon
ludvig best
finite sentinel
Yea actually, the previous early access game i was this interested in had a good dev team too, We Need to Go Deeper
I'm surprised though! 5 years is a long time. I'm curious if you guys are working on other projects
finite sentinel
well, what you have so far is done very well :3
reminds me of the quality subnautica had in early access actually
dense wasp
thank you kindly. big words
reef barn
For people without mic really i reccomend connecting to the voice channel on your phone instead of your computer/laptop
clear quartz
∆
dusk delta
Just upgraded my 6 yro laptop which ran 30-40 fps on low settings and 10-20 fps on high to running GTFO now on 120+ fps (don't know if it can be more since I capped it at 120 since monitor is a 120Hz) but the difference and gameplay now is worlds apart.
brisk badger
laptop
dusk delta
Laptops now a days are like desktops now. Insanely powerful but also as thin as a macbook. I got tired of carrying around a mid tower to every place I'd have to move to. lol
brisk badger
You can now keep your PC at home and bring your Notebook powered by Intel Atom with. Enable in-home streaming and let the PC do all the work and you play it from the notebook
idk I think prices for these gaming notebooks who look good on paper but thermals will always throttle performance are still too high
example for in-home streaming are:
Valves own service, included in Steams
or stuff like: https://moonlight-stream.org
and yes, you can play GTFO from your smartphone if you want
haughty brook
can you hear me?
regal laurel
no you'll have to chat louder
woven mica
Ok so. I have not bought the game yet becuase I'm not sure I can run it. Considering that my notebook has the following specs:
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7500U CPU @ 2.70GHz (Idling @ 3.5GHz, I don't know why)
8GB RAM
GEFORCE MX110 2GB VRAM
do you people think it would run?
fleet canopy
It more likely might though
Min is 2GB VRAM GPU kek
The CPU is uhh
It's good enough I guess?
It does meet min spec
vapid crypt
The 7500U is a dual core, cause its a laptop i7. Might be okay on low with cpu culling on low
velvet jackal
vapid crypt
Uh, picture of the computer doesn't really tell us anything
Well it tells me at least one thing, you have a locked Intel processor; that's it
Oh I zoomed in Z97 chipset, what is that Haswell?
Eh, might be alright. I'd like to know more specifics but it should most likely run
dense wasp
Yeah, hard to know 🙂
floral geyser
this game requires absolutely perfect cable management or you'll get low fps
sorry ffolks
fleet canopy
Haha
fleet canopy
Hm
near mesa
that calls for some overclocking
merry bay
I suggest a GPU budget overclock
But definitely wait for the upcoming GPU's. Big Navi and 3000 series look quite promising.
plucky dock
can a 1050 run it?
merry bay
For sure, question is what fps range is comfortable for you.
crisp spire
So I got 1050, you think it's I can run it at 900p with little to no stutter?
I've seen gameplay and I really want to buy it
just worried that I won't be able to run it
vapid crypt
Yeah that sounds about right
Wait that's a 2gb card right, just gotta turn down textures yeah
vapid crypt
CPU might be somewhat pertinent, what do you have?
abstract kite
yea... well im kinda fricked until i get a new gpu lol
xD imagine
no clue why its so fucking big on 1070.
fleet canopy
This is probably the worst website I've been to tbh
abstract kite
XD
fleet canopy
Your CPU isn't bottlenecked at all lol
vapid crypt
The bottleneck is just the GPU
Like the 9900k could handle a bigger GPU, that's basically all it is
abstract kite
no not my cpu xD
fleet canopy
Powerful CPU bottlenecking a weaker GPU, hm
fleet canopy
Hm
vapid crypt
Well that doesn't make sense
abstract kite
Are you seeing no differences?
abstract kite
no i legit dropped 100 fps in games XD
abstract kite
That doesnt sound like your GPUs issue
vapid crypt
Yeah no that doesn't seem right
fleet canopy
Giv full spec
abstract kite
Actually I take that back, it’s not your GPU
Ram, motherboard, and CPU cooler specs pls
9900k + 16gb ram 2133MHz + 1070 + Z390 Elite + Kraken X52
abstract kite
^
abstract kite
There’s your issue
fleet canopy
But yeah that's the RAM
abstract kite
Your ram speeds are not optimal
fleet canopy
It's s h i t
abstract kite
it cant be ram lol
fleet canopy
7700K needs like 2400Mhz
abstract kite
ok so
fleet canopy
It has to be RAM
abstract kite
@abstract kite Newer processors can rely heavily on RAM which is why you high speeds.
fleet canopy
Yeah
abstract kite
should i buy 32gb
vapid crypt
Oh your ram is running at base clocks
fleet canopy
32GB is no-no
vapid crypt
That explains the low performance
fleet canopy
Enable XMP
abstract kite
i did
vapid crypt
Uh it should have an XMP profile?
abstract kite
it aint doing sht
@abstract kite Capacity isnt the issue, your clock speed is.
What brand is your ram?
abstract kite
kingston