#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk
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wait which cpu??
i7-7800x
yikes
It launched at just under 400 or something
I saw it as 400$ on
Yeah
It must have increased because not manufactured anymore
And must be so damn rare to find one
Still expensive as fuck considering this was post Ryzen, but they can justify it cause of PCIe lanes and quad channel memory
That price you're seeing is just old stock with an inflated price
dont like it when those things happen..
On the bonus if you do have a part you don’t use anymore, you can keep and probably sell for a huge price maybe
Not gonna really common, but it might happen
Not bad Kek
Any reason why pcpartpicker has no results for Asrock mobos?
I see them 
Is this the one you have? https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/kjTrxr/asrock-x299-taichi-atx-lga2066-motherboard-x299-taichi
Eggsbensive board
yeah
Its not as pricey in the US, but yeah that's a good board
Thinking of it now, if you’re correct on 7800X being 1000$ or some shit, you could sell this for 2000-2500$ together
I'll have to come back to this later
Gotta head out
but
from what you guys are saying
probably worth using my free parts
I doubt it, I heard motherboard manufacturers have a bunch of x299 boards that they can't move
Thanks people
I doubt they would sell that high
I mean I could try lol
but thats insane
Cyas
back later
Can always check market
Hey, is anyone alive to answer a quick question on computer building and stuff? Small glitch happening with my usbs after windows running where it works in the bios, but not after
I have a B450 | AORUS
As my mobo, a Ryzen 7 if that makes any different as my cpu
the same with a diff motherboard, i9-9900KS and a UPS
You finnally changed to a 1g thermal paste too 🤪
im only switching over because Ryzen 4000 looks balls to the wall insane and i dont want to have to switch mobos later on
intel still has better frames >:c
Ryzen 4000 can stil be delayed but yeah its close
Like how cyberpunk 2077 got delayed today = (
wew
Sadtimes
r4000 is coming out in like the summer
Id probably be full focus on halo by that time
5% better frames is worth it for being worse everywhere else 
Should be summer 2020?
could be wrong though i havent done too much research on amd
600 series chipsets is said to come out before the end of the year
Also best VRM x570 for the money is probably the Gigabyte Aorus Elite, but that fucking thing doesn't have enough fan headers from what I recall
Likely in mid- or late-2020
I mean it stil can be delayed lol
Its just speculations for the most part
zen4 5nm?????????????
Oh wait I just remembered, for sub 200 the X570 TUF is the best one. It has the beefiest VRM and decent feature set. Only possible issue is a big ass card blocking the chipset fan or something 
I'm not sure, but I think most of the X570 msi boards initially released aren't that great. Even the Gaming Pro Carbon, sub par VRMs for over 200
ah hell i just saw it doesn't fit the D15 >:(
They're releasing a X570 Tomahawk soon which should be good but that's also gonna be over 200
any recommendations under $200
The Asus TUF, or the Gigabyte Aorus Elite; I think the Gigabyte one has literally one chassis fan header though which is fucking dumb 
No wait its two, but its in shitty spots
There's one without Wifi that's like 30 bucks less, unless you want the Wifi
Popular board though, everyone kinda knows its the go to
Why the 3900X over the 3700X?
Emphasis on the first point, I am an addict when it comes to juicing those sweet fps
anyways
Okay so if the cpu and gpu you aren't paying for, what's the budget for the rest of the system then?
solid $1k with peripheral and monitor included
So I recently heard that the Focus G sucks without extra fans, I think in passing from a Gamers Nexus video or something
i can pick up a few fans
Good idea, dunno how good those intakes it come with is
But it would be worth getting at least the one exhaust
120mm for exhaust
should i get only one or
One for positive pressure or two for neutral pressure
Oh it can take a bottom fan
I guess as an intake 
And that's 120mm
Just don't put that on carpet, or a dusty floor 
Actually it looks like you would have to remove the hard drive cage for that
For exhaust it couldn't be better I bet
nice
So why the 32gb of RAM, do you really think you could use all that?
i'm upgrading to 64GB later down the line
using 16GB sticks because my mobo of choice only has 4 slots
Well if you want more you get Threadripper at that point 
threadripper not good for gaming >:(
What's that for though?
Funny enough I'm pretty sure the new threadripper is on par or better, at least the 24 core I think 
I might be wrong, its 2am and I can't think all too well right now
mainly just maneuvering Windows faster because good god it eats ram
64GB of ram isn't my first priority though, that's more just a futureproof for when 16GB starts becoming minimum specs
Took a while for 8 to become minimum, I wouldn't worry about it really. That probably won't be the case until DDR5 is a thing in the consumer market
most games are eating 12-13gb pretty easily as of rn, i'm predicting it won't take long for 16gb to be a recommended minimum
What games are using up that much RAM?
definitely MW, and i've even seen RDR2 taking that sometimes on my mum's pc
Well RDR2 is a disaster level pc port that Rockstar and 2k should be ashamed of 
But they have no shame, so that makes no difference
The thing is the games aren't using that much RAM, the system is utilizing that much RAM in addition to the game. The newest game I own is RE2, so its the only example I have; when running I'm utilizing around half my ram just over 8 maybe less at times? It varies cause the game will utilize what it needs
And that's with Firefox tabs open, Discord too
to be fair it could just be her PC getting old and crusty, idk
but again, 64GB is definitely not a priority for me
32GB will be moorre than enough
Went from a 2950X to a 3800X and man it was like night and day
Sure, you could get 16 now and double it later. I would recommend doing that instead and maybe getting a bigger nvme
Older TR for sure aren't for gaming
the NVME is just for boot
I understand, but listen having space for some games on there, you won't regret that
Sorry for the interjection, had to wait 10 minutes before I could post
i can live with a 2TB HDD knowing it only cost me a single movie night with friends
Its fast as fuck
that'll probably be one of the first things i do honestly, upgrade my ssd
There's room for a second nvme I think
Yup the board has a heatsink cover for the second slot on the bottom
nice
Very stealthy
And about running 64Gb of ram on Ryzen, remember that for a 16GB stick, it's most likely a dual rank module system so overall ram speed needs to be reduced
I don't know much about Single and Dual ranks other than it exists 
Right now I run 4 8GB single rank sticks at 3200 and that's the fastest you can really run em
i don't know much 👉 👉
I think I saw a Hardware Unboxed video about it, but I did not retain that info
Rank is basically single or dual sided
I know that at least, but I don't know how it pertains to performance
1 controller vs 2 for the modules
It affects the response time since the 2 controllers need to communicate over the same ram bus
Mostly if you want to game I think there is just a mild difference between 2666 and 3200 for Ryzen 3000 series
But it is something to think of when switching from 32 to 64gb
Uh, its like 5 - 10% with 3600 being the sweetspot
Memory timing pays into it as well though
I think it diminishes after 3866 or some weird ass speed I dunno
And I think you can change the infinity fabric timing as well
Yeah because the ratio is required to be lower for above 3866
Absolutely, like uh 3200 CL14 is no different from 3600 at CL16
DDR4-5000 be like
At least for gaming
Sure
megumin
yes
but with red 👁️
megulaser
Explosion time
Cause that's just latency, I don't know performance differences in other work loads though
🤗
🤗
Anyway, all I was saying if you buy a 64gb kit, don't expect it to run at 3200 just because it is 3200 capable
to be fair, i'll probably be upgrading my CPU before going 64GB
so i might not honestly need it at all 🤷♂️
What else do you use your PC for
Only time I ever needed 64gb was for lightmass encoding
Basically overcompensating
essentially this yeah
There's no real explanation besides that
32Gb is all you really need
i want to squeeze as much performance out of games as i possibly can
Buy the best kit for your situation now and use it as long as you can
Well, wait till DDR5 then
The goal is to build my PC now and not wait :D
32Gb is a soft limit for performance ddr4
At least for dual channel 4 slot
I can't remember if dual rank dual slot even beats single rank quad slot
There's a Buildzoid video for that I think 
But I didn't watch it because... reasons
Either way, 32Gb is more than you'll need for gaming and mild creation, especially on a mainstream platform
Deep PC talk can get real boring real quick
Buildzoid is a madman he's made 40 minute videos discussing motherboard VRMs
Yeah I've watched a lot of them
I also like to listen to Level1techs when they talk about server hardware
⚠️
i am going to sleep now before my dreamscape becomes haunted with a constant hail of ddr5 sticks
goodbye
Goodnight
Jog my hand is around 7.5 inches long should I get the glorious model O or D? Please ping me the answer.
Look up Rocket Jump Ninja.
Recently did a review. Has a metric according to hand size what should fit best.
@hidden obsidian The choice between O or D shouldn't be hand size but which grip style you prefer. The O is a rather flat, ambi mouse, while the D has the EC shape
I'd say unless you feel a strong desire to go with an ergonomic mouse you should get the O
Alright, thanks guys! Also I have another question. Does anyone thing GTFO is a little too hard? Or am I just shit. Once again please ping me with a response.
It all depends on how well your team is able to sync up and cooperate. @hidden obsidian
If you're playing in 4 man squad and struggling, then I think it's more an issue with patience, planning or teamwork.
I guess that falls into calling the game hard. But the game having depth is nice I'd say
Playing as a trio is truly hard. Less ammo, equipment, things you can carry, less bodies for security doors.
Really hard to convince friends to cough up this much for an Early Access game, so often stuck doing trios
???
EPICO
Lmao
we sure do, but only use it for pc building and tech talk related stuff
keep it appropriate guys

Is it illegal to track my neighbour with my newly set up wifi tracking system🤔
It seems to work however. With his phone better than with mine
Broadcast frames are fun to inspect
hey umm does anyone know why im getting very bad fps on r6s with 1070 + 9900k setup?
anyway i can test it?
see how many tabs of google chrome you can open until your pc starts going AAAAaaaa
Such a setup and no metjod of troubleshooting?
huh.
Check your thermals first
^^^
is your PSU working proper
And dont expect support with tabs open on background 😂😋 jk
idk then, check for dust and stuff
20 degrees?
yea on cpu
on gaming its like 35-50c
it never uses
above 20%
in r6s
and stays like 5% for gpu
Well alt tab fakes the result if you take too long best would be on 2nd monitor
Issue may be gpu related
most likely
Its normal thst cpu idle a lot due to games often run singlethreaded
then how is it running poorly
lua is still a good script language
people say they get 150-200 fps
on ultra on my gpu and with 1060
and i have few friends
that's not poor performance
I thought 5 percent usage in games
who have amd setups and run like 300-500 fps
yea for r6s its legit 5% usage on gpu
;_;
oh nyo ;_;
cruel world
but even tho... it should drop by like 10-20 fps right and not blowing 100 fps or more
GPU's don't really degrade, they either work or they don't. Maybe throttle from temps
Bullhit
xd
On mobile. I am a terrible writer
it cant be throttling though because he gets good temps :l
grrr
this went down
avg to 88-98
also the max lies
it also does not matter if im on low
or ultra
A (golden) tip from an ex pc tech guy: if your gpu doesnt work, flash it
I feel its a software issue if temps are fine
reinstall windows?
I would do:
Have you been updating the drivers?
yes
Completely remove gpu driver with the DDU tool
Then install the newest driver. Same issue tge repeat but take a bit older driver
^
Could be as simple as driver errors
like last yr and stuff
and i remember when i decided to try without vsync to see if its gonna lag and it did it stuttered but iremember
i always had 220-238 fps
and now when i play without vsync
its barley even going to 110
I dont play r6 but i think u should get more than the fps u have
I'm kinda curious what kind of framerates I would get, but I don't own the game 
Isnt r6 also kinda cpu limited i heard?
In such it probably runs on one thread but not sure
Its likely cpu limited yeah
i am very excited to see the fps i get on siege with a r9 3900x/2070super
yea like i have 9900k
not sure wtf is going on
before i had i7 7700k
and it got upto 220 fps
xD
Do you know what the 9900k is boosting to when under load?
9900k should be top anyway
but yeah lets say 4.7
4.68 boost??
yea
That's an all core boost
nice
or 5.0
wait it might be 2 cores xD
silicon lottery got you fucked up
nah man i got it from
That makes sense
directly retale
as my boss
i work in I.T storage unit
and i ordered via him
for no VAT
etc
on launch day i got it for 400€
lmao
ok soo DDU?
Yes, Display Driver Uninstaller
There's also the chance a game update borked things a bit. A friend of mine was complaining about fps yesterday too. Probably just a coincidence. Maybe ask around?
yeah
few people
went in r6 discord
they have no clue mods wise
just few people complaining on amd setups too
but they have like shittier setups than me and get more fps
i was like ok fuck me
and rage quit
Wouldn't be the first time, I got Nioh on New Years and the pc port for that is terrible. Keeps crashing on all the drivers I've tried 
R6 discord isnt very helpful tbh
ok what to check and uncheck here
I just leave it default
^
Don't even recall seeing those options actually
Since its not recommended, probably not
This is what I typically do when I reinstall, I like to run DDU in safe mode
******* You like DDU? Think about a donation, it will help further development. *******
Ensure there's no internet connection, make sure you have the install for whatever drivers you're gonna be using
kk
jeez my colors look shit
xD
welp ok so do i run it once more?
or new install
After restarting, install the driver; restart again at that point its fine to reconnect. The reason you don't want to be connected to the internet is cause Windows likes to automatically download and install drivers
Most likely
my eyes
If its safe mode it defaults to that
Geforce Experience is their software you gotta make an account for, it shouldn't matter though
If you didn't use GE before, there's no need.
i did i use it all the time
Some people find it useful, I call it bloat
for updates
but meh only for updates
cba to go find them manually
well now i did
xd
ok express or custom
I always opt for Custom to look at options
I'd proceed like this, as DDU cleaned things up already
perform a clean install?
Uh I think so yeah
kk done installing
Just give it a restart then
inb4 it made it worse XD
holy hell
HM
I forgot to ask, have you noticed any other performance reductions in any other games?
Okay, as are Intel's and Crucial's for around 1tb
Even Sabrent's I think, they have two SKUs within 20 bucks or something like that
Sabrent has near Samsung speeds actually
20fps, uh we take those? 
XD
Was this the same driver?
yea
Oh okay
hmm maybe they fix it with the next update or smth
for ubisoft
as ubisoft didnt reply to my support ticket at all
Ubisoft 
🤣
HapcherToday at 7:33 PM
I always opt for Custom to look at options
@merry bay the day you gonna click by accident "default" you will get adware etc. installed 😂
You be Soft 🤪
actually
FXAA
im on FXAA which was running shit
T-AA runs even more like sht
but
T-AA defualt works
best
Gotta smooth out those jagged edges 
TAA costs more power but looks better
@brisk badger Especially if it's free software
it legit put me default
1360x764
-.-"
can i make r6s work on all my cores
for cpu
no, due the nature of the used programming language
Probably not no
most games have an engine written in something like C (does know multithreading) and then they use a scripting language for the game itself
scripting languages are very often single threaded by nature
Also making an application multithreaded often costs A LOT of money (and time)
:3 but its ubiiisoofttt
ok trying 1080 render scale
yep
it like takes away 80 fps lol
if i play 1080p
coffee, do you know of people with same hardware and better FPS?
so honestly i watched few reviews that are like year old...
I can only give you tip to observe the gpu usage now. it should be 100%, maybe a tad less depending if the cpu is limiting. if it's under 70-80% then I think something is not right
Personally I use a tool called aida64 but it may cost money. There is MSI Afterburner + Riva Tuner Server statistics
I get average 90 to 120 fps with gtx 1080 strix and i7 6800k x99 strix gaming mobo
Dips to at least 60 when dropping in
and coffee has a 1070? I forgot 😄
r6s is deff broken
you play on high setting slaughter
I play on pretty high settings, Playing in 2k
Gane looks great besides the occasional glitch. Had one persons arm clip to the other side it was hilarious. Someone sent me a screen shot lol
Fyi some games play better in higher res if that makes sense. Not always, didnt test with gtfo.
I also have cpu culling at extreme
Some games run Anti-aliasing that renders at a lower resolution, and then upscales with the anti-aliasing, I'm pretty certain there's an option for it in Rainbow Six Siege, the lowest AA available. Some games run a dynamic resolution by default, thus, anytime it would struggle, it downscales.
There's a lot of yank that they run in the background
I Normally turn off dynamic
How do you think a console that runs only slightly better than the original console could handle a way higher resolution?
It upscales from a lower resolution.
lmao true
Introducing, PS4 Pro and Xbox Project Scorpio
It sure looks neat, but 1080p/1440p isn't 4K just because you smudged the screen a bit.
Lol
I did play in 4k 60 fps before I got my 165 hert 2k monitor. Some games were 45 fps maxed but maxed a bunch too
How similar would you say their implementation is to NVIDIA's DSR?
1080p upscaled 4x is pretty much rendering the game in 4K, but it's nowhere near as pretty because you're still on a 1080p monitor.
Does wonders for anti aliasing though
Simply upscaling would give you the literal same image
I've used dsr for games that have low res textures. Helps a little, would help with AA with certain settings
It's the anti-aliasing that does anything.
That's how you sell snakeoil to the public.
Can't speak about the console stuff, but DSR definitely makes a tangible difference
It would give more accurate rendering, DSR.
I was looking for snozzberries @sick reef 😉
That's down the street. Don't worry if the guy opens his jacket, he wears a thong.
what
DSR is just, well, reverse approximation. It would give you a better image, minimally, but correct, at the cost of performance.
To be fair, most textures look damn near the same. The game I used it in particular was Far Cry Primal. Entire map is a massive jungle. Trees and foliage all day long.
GTFO at 120 frames is pretty sexy. Dips lower with movement however.
Anti aliasing benefits fences and shrubbery really well
Anyone know when an update will be? Game needs some hot fixes.
@abstract kite sry late: Computer -> Sensors
Depends on the anti-aliasing
ah aida64 has no proper overlay, but you can make a website for it
But you could run DSR to get a more accurate picture to then use anti-aliasing on top of that to make the approximation even better, giving you better clarity.
nah i just installed msi afterburner lol
made "something fancy pancy" for live stats for my gameserver: https://performance.playground.apheriox.com
DSR being the method of anti-aliasing. FPS was still above 60, so it was playable. Not saying it's ideal, but it was the highest eye candy option for my 1080p monitor
use riva tuner statistics driver or whats it called
looks cool XD
brb pizza came
yeet
Uh oh unleash the kraken
it allows you to display anything in fullscreen applications
XDD
or just have aida64 open on a second monitor (if you have one)
Def get a 2nd monitor even if it is lower quality.
I've had my issues for sure
Mainly older games get wonky
I usually boot once, get the ini file and configure away to avoid a lot of issues.
I had it for a while, but I sold the other monitor. It took space, it wasn't worth adding an extra layers to games to me.
But I have considered getting one, again.
Mainly because I play less amounts of games.
If you dont have the space, well you dont have the space. They come in handy, by pressing shift tab in borderless window; Let's you go to the second screen pretty quickly without alt tabbing
doesn't alt-enter just change it to borderless?
Apart from games that are fucky about it, obviously.
Yeah, I guess.
-borderless startup command let's you run borderless on startup
Yeah. But once again, that means messing with stuff. And if you run a single monitor setup, you just press the button and it just works.
See that mountain?
You can remove the edges from it with anti-aliasing.
For games that only run windowed, there's Borderless Gaming(payed), or an older free variant ShiftWindow
found it useful often
But can you climb it? 
Stuff like this is why I never did.
You see, Demonio
You can remove the edges
from it
with edgeless DLC
for 4.99€

Call me late to the party but I just beat c1 last night, first game of c2. Everyone had me worried a lil talking about it.
C2*
Anyone wanna do d1 with me? Lol
C2 was pretty rough for me
im gonna throw up pizza
xD
so many slices
well thx for not being toxic as i am very picky about my fps...
guess i have to upgrade if i want more
the ocd is a harsh thing
That's just the way the cookie crumbles
true
^^
PC MASTER RACE
Its a curse as far as I'm concerned 
I still have my 1080 strix, waiting on summer cards
I got 75hz, I will bask in my ignorance 
same xD
Told me about the new line coming...
Oh boy
hmm should i go for amd or nvidia... i mean not sure the prices for ampere
they said it should be lower
"should"
We don't know yet
I'd tell you nvidia, but I dont know prices
AMD is stepping their game up no doubt
All of that will be announced likely at or by Computex
So just wait and see what nvidia does lol
i mean honestly if the fps difference is going to be 2-5-10 fps
xd
and if they step up their driver game
then im gonna go for amd
as i have a free/gsync monitor
Drivers have been buggy lately, its something that needs to be addressed and fixed
For sure they've acknowledged the issues though
Well with the 1080 2080 comparison it's already at twice the bandwidth and about 20/30 percent increase in performance
Its 1080ti 2.0... and the 2080 super is 2.5 
My friend has been using 5700XT for 4 months now and drivers are the only complain hes got. Blackscreen issues, crashes, stuttering...
So i would stay on green side for now
I've had bad luck with amd so I'm strictly nvidia/intel
If it matches the 2080ti I could see them pushing the price higher from the 700 price they've established already
AMD does have better higher end stuff now. Dont get the lower end stuff.

It should be like 600 at the most tbh
so my best bet is too fucking pre order that shit as soon as it launches
Around 800€ for 3080 or whatever it will be sounds about right.
My crystal ball says its more than that
Oh how i hoped that 2080Ti would be around same price as 1080Ti. I was so wrong..
pre-orders 
xD yeah im gonna do it lads
the thing u should never do
pre order
but thats just cause
at the very least would want to see cooler comparisons
i dont wanna pay 1000€ for 3080
They saw the mining prices and were like "Yup we can do this."
miners ruined it all
ngl
buying like 20000000
units
people who sell used 10x series are 80% miners
People were paying over 1000 for 1080tis
Well, not really.
in croatia 2080ti costs roughly about 1700€
but 80% of used 1060's are miner GPU
1299€ for 2080Ti on release
Welp better start saving up
because those new ones are not going to be cheaper
Its not worth it 
Unless we get another china sitution, it'll die off, and we all can have nice GPU
s again.
yay
nice gpu prices
:3
i can now buy my organs back
^^ i cant joke
apologies
xD
Let's just not have the chinese government and banks ban the American Dollar again.
Or how ever that transpired in the end.
They'll ban whatever they want, Winnie the Pooh, Basic Freedom, Me? 
"me" kappa
They don't ban people.
They kill them, send them to jail indefinitely, or send them to work camps.

arent camps banned
Sounds funny until another one disappears in China.
You mean concentration camps or work camps?
Neither, generally speaking.
Just unethical.
Let's get back on topic 
Though, apart from the German concentration camps, that were practically kill camps, they didn't have such a low mortality rate regardless.
Like the american one's for the indians, etc.
burn the pizza off? lol
What have you been using?
Void pro wireless
And what's your budget?
Oh boy sky's the limit
Drink the corsair koolaid
Wait is that USD?
300 bucks buys a lot of headphone
XD yeah this paycheck i dont have to pay rent
I'd say spend a third of budget, and use the rest for something else 
Why not buy a 50 dollar set and 8 copies of gtfo for your friends
I've heard good things about the Corsair sets, I personally don't use a headset but headphones. AKG knockoffs pretty much.
Gaming headphones are weird. I find them all very similar with big price difference.
I'd save for eventualities, if I was you.
^
Buy a small nice thing, and keep the rest in case something happens

$300 can buy you a good pair of cans and an entry level DAC
Audiophile levels of quality
I could actually ask you, I want to replace, eventually, my Razer Tiamat 7.1 v1, which were actual 7.1, with something that's good for games preferably.
hmhm
Right now it's taped with a brace, taped the mic open, and keeping it up with two stripes together.
I jumped away from headsets few years back too. Got kinda tired of them breaking and such
I never spend a lot on peripherals, so I've gone through a lot of headphones pretty much
I'm pretty damn satisfied with what I have now though
@sick reef I first wanted you to a picture battle of our headsets but I just realized my headset (razor man o war) looks so bad, I am too much embarrassed
Yeah, Man o War ain't all that great.
@late hollow
Here’s a good amp. It doesnt have a DAC but its a good one for the price.
And theres also these beauties from drop. Entry level planar cans. Good, cheap, durable.
it's like some tiny plastics holds 2kg
If you’ve never used a headphone and planars, I guarantee these will sound better than any set you’ve probably had
@abstract kite planar gang gang
@jade ermine GANG GANG
yeah i never used headphones and planars before
@abstract kite Got these some time ago. Absolute unit
If you're not willing to commit a lot, I heard really good things about these https://www.amazon.com/Philips-SHP9500S-Precision-Over-ear-Headphones/dp/B00ENMK1DW?th=1
would have gone sennheiser but gotta have the prismsync
@brisk badger If I did so have v2 Tiamat 7.1, it would be an even match.
some people post really weird amazon links. others normal url
The URLs get silly as you browse the site, I dunno what it is 
pretty sure Bil posted an affiliate link
Or maybe if its like from a google search or something
&tag=themasswi0f
is an ID of an amazon affiliate
yeah
I saw that too
Second one seems like a pure google redirect.
Or maybe that site just looks like that.
whoever he is, he gets the money for stuff you purchase on amazon by clicking bil's link
doesn't even have to be that article, can be anything the next 48hours?
if you type themasswi0f in google there is quite many results. Especially around home theaters
Funny the top result for me is a Wikipedia article of "Tom Swift" the main character of American juvenile science fiction and adventure novels 
😂
@median moon Arctis as in?
@jade ermine I’m salivating
😙
No joke
@late hollow I accidentally lied. This is better for the price and its a DAC amp.
https://www.amazon.com/FiiO-Headphone-Amplifier-Computer-Balanced/dp/B07KR3RF4H
Those with the HE4XXs
@abstract kite stEeELseries
Godlike with a budget
wtf @vapid crypt . my google results look way different (well the top two)
I mean its Duckduckgo, so I guess that makes sense
I’ll say this much @median moon
It’s steelseries lol
:(
woops haha yea. My bad. How could I overlook this
My first headset was a cheap steelseries, that fell apart in like 3 months or maybe less
...:(
Theyre not bad @median moon, but I’ve been spoiled to planar sets now
i got them for the mic and because my other peripherals are steelseries
YES
oh hey i forgot
@abstract kite bil bil bil bil bil bil bil bil bil nye the science guy
pls thoughts
Planar sets can be powered from say your phone, but to get the full spectrum they’re capable of, a DAC amp truly helps.
Well okay I understand that, but how does that compare to onboard audio on a pc?
:D
@vapid crypt Onboard audio has nothing on a DAC.
Being able to draw more power to solely drive your cans is essential to get the most out of your high end headphones.
Also eliminates static if you happen to have any of that
Hm
Plus the frequency rate doesnt drop
It stays pretty linear
@median moon The only thing I would probably change would be the cooler. Swap it out for the Noctua D15 and you’re solid.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DFZzk6
Its also cheaper too while being a better cooler
I recently picked up a Fiio E10k
Biggest difference I'd say is no distortion at higher volume. Maybe a little easier to pick apart instruments or certain elements. If that makes sense.
What are you driving with the E10k?
Ooh
Yea I’d say thats about right for an E10k
The crispness is still worth it imo
I'm satisfied, but it's always very subjective
Audio is always very subjective. Everyone has different hearing
No doubt most people would be able to tell the difference those Audeze's make, but that doesn't mean they'd say it's worth it.
I really want a Drop THX AAA 789 but its expensive
And a Monolith portable amp
too much ;-;
@abstract kite D15 needs more things in order to socket with my mobo
$10 more for no external parts required and taking up less space works for me
Yup i agree. High end headphones are something average consumer would find very hard to appreciate
yeah but it needs an external support bracket
i dont want to mess with that, less weight on cooler = better
Anyone have ideas on how to handle GPU sag? Just asking for inspiration 
X570 boards already have a backplate for coolers
Alternatively you can use a Dark Rock 4 Pro
Which is guaranteed to mount
Same price
@median moon Ignore anything PCPartPicker tells you
But
This is with the DRP4
And your ram is lower than mine
so I can confirm
it will work
I have a DRP4
With Trident Z Neo ram
44mm tall iirc
Metric system is strange for me
@abstract kite i want that ram cus it has my name in it
ye
lol
temps are looking a lot higher than on the D15
What generation
of i7
i7-7700K and up get HOT
Your 3900X would honestly be cooler than a 9700K imo
is intel still not soldering the DIE?
I think
Nah they didn't solder 8th gen
😤
@median moon Keep in mind that Ryzen 3000 is fine up to 95C. As long as you’re sitting between 73-80C on a full load you’re fine.
I remember that being an issue cause they used low quality stuff for the i7 for 8th gen
👍 delidding 👍 (it does do wonders but why intel do we have to do this)
I think they at least started soldering the HEDT parts
Heh
Like with the 9980xe
I want a 3960X bad
Hm
But that was one thing people had a problem with cause they prefered being able to delid easily
24 cores but still super cool temperature wise
do you plan to rent out cores? i could use some
I’ll open meh core shop
They solder 9th gen.
3970X tho

I’m probably going to get a 3950X/4900/4950X depending on what I can get cheapest and is still “good” compared to the market in a year.
Since I plan on keeping my X570 system for a while
4900X might be like similar to 3950X I guess
Yea
They also soldered 8X series.
I’m going to buy 4000 next year probably
Depends if they keep pushing up the core counts, but i doubt it for the next ones
If I would get that CPU, I would make a hypervisor and than one single PC for the whole family
Since there will be a price drop from 5000
So being able to delid my 7X means I have way better performance.
Any other use cases?
Servers for days
Indeed
Or well, kind of, I clock it at 4.8GHz and I doubt any other 8X would do that at 30C.
what about this https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xCL7YJ/noctua-cpu-cooler-nhd15s @abstract kite
D15 but less
@fleet canopy 
Mnm

Regular D15 has better cooling
It’s not bad tbh
Doesnt matter tho
Only gotta worry about GPU sag
If it isn't throttling, you're fine
Hence why my responses have been so short
So, is the Radeon 5700 XT ITX only available in Japan?
Wait, it's not an XT. Just a 5700.
The one with the anime girl on it?
If so, yeah
It might be available anywhere else but ehh
Anime girl?
Unless you do have a reason for getting a single fan
You need what?
The card



