#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk | GTFO | Page 56

merry bay Jan 15, 2020, 12:16 PM

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Remember caring about matching up the colour of your parts for a build? Now with RGB you can overpower that on a whim into anything you want.

dusty pumice Jan 15, 2020, 12:17 PM

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Might need to wait for the weebs to wake up

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so they can recommend a kit lmfao

sick reef Jan 15, 2020, 12:18 PM

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I have around 3-4 leds active in my case. White, a green, and a red.

dusty pumice Jan 15, 2020, 12:18 PM

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Can you even see inside

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to see the lights labcat

sick reef Jan 15, 2020, 12:19 PM

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Right now, yes, but that's only until I've fixed a few things so I can properly close it up.

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You wouldn't be able to see any leds closed up.

dusty pumice Jan 15, 2020, 12:19 PM

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Well labcat now that your here anyway, how much temp gain do you think i will get with a custom loop over the aio for the i7-7700k

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might make the switch end of this month

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Warranty will be up on the aio soon done fucking around with it

sick reef Jan 15, 2020, 12:20 PM

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I am unsure. The 7-series runs pretty hot, so maybe you'd be able to gain quite some.

dusty pumice Jan 15, 2020, 12:20 PM

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fuck me

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Im stil considering delidding it

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Should have done it long time ago 🤪

sick reef Jan 15, 2020, 12:21 PM

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If you're at an impasse where it's fuck it if fails or if it doesn't, delidding can't lose you much.

dusty pumice Jan 15, 2020, 12:21 PM

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Its either that or someone is going to offer me some money to buy it

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I was there long time ago

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but then i spend another $50 for the aio to run nicely

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Now i just need to find some free time to test the fans properly

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the old ones at that

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Gonna have some time for that at the end of the month

urban rapids Jan 15, 2020, 12:47 PM

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I have a AR-15 in my pc

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No stock

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So it fits

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Someone breaks in I just pull that thing out

sick reef Jan 15, 2020, 12:56 PM

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I dunno, I just have a bearded axe.

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Should put it closer to the PC.

dusty pumice Jan 15, 2020, 12:57 PM

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But might just need to insert it into a USB slot once or twice

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Can slap some people with my whole pc case

fleet canopy Jan 15, 2020, 1:08 PM

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I do not know why you people are weird as fuck sometimes

dusty pumice Jan 15, 2020, 1:08 PM

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Lmfao

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Puppys mayonaise is alive and breathing oh and awake ofcourse

fleet canopy Jan 15, 2020, 1:09 PM

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Indeed

dusty pumice Jan 15, 2020, 1:09 PM

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You got a recommend for RGB Ram kit?

fleet canopy Jan 15, 2020, 1:09 PM

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Only one I know that’s ok are the G.skill kits

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I hear good reviews of them, they don’t seem to be too bad. They also got like gold or silver RAM sticks for like 100$ for a 2x8 DDR4-3200

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Average price

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I just know like every g.skill ram kits are great for aesthetics, while still being for a great price

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Corsair might also be an option too if that’s your case

serene folio Jan 15, 2020, 1:43 PM

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10 days till 3700x

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PeepoGGERS2

urban rapids Jan 15, 2020, 3:28 PM

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I have a premade PC but want to build my own soon

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Any suggestions on how to start

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The one I got is a cyber power

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It’s good

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But I want to build my own

brisk badger Jan 15, 2020, 3:30 PM

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I would start watching some videos how people install the hardware properly. Maybe make a list of what you need (not only hardware, but also all required tools like thermal paste, isopropyl alcohol, correct screwdrivers etc)

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I don't know if your PC is a custom made computer and can only fit certain components or if it allows you to normally upgrade. In any case you can tinker with your computer you already have and disassemble / assemble components. You may lose warranty but I doubt

merry bay Jan 15, 2020, 4:13 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7MYOpFONCU

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This covered a good portion of what's important

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Well, more focused on assembly. Picking out parts is another thing

pastel valve Jan 15, 2020, 5:07 PM

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Oh? We talking pc building?

vapid crypt Jan 15, 2020, 5:43 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtCljCyJeqw

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That details part selection in and around about $1000

abstract kite Jan 15, 2020, 9:16 PM

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Finally... Now I can replace the terrible corsair fans that are screaming in my system

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vapid crypt Jan 15, 2020, 9:39 PM

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Oh you have a corsair case which had fantastic stock fans? phaWesker

dusty pumice Jan 15, 2020, 9:42 PM

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I dont know about fantastic

vapid crypt Jan 15, 2020, 9:43 PM

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I got Arctic Bionix fans personally, pretty good I think

dusty pumice Jan 15, 2020, 9:43 PM

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Got some used corsair aio fans you can pick up for free

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lmfao

abstract kite Jan 15, 2020, 9:58 PM

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Nope

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Fractal design

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I have ML120 Pros in the front

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YUCK

grizzled umbra Jan 15, 2020, 10:05 PM

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Noctua do the best fans.

fleet canopy Jan 15, 2020, 10:54 PM

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Corsair’s Carbide Spec-03 stock fans were pretty good from what I’ve had, can be heard but wasn’t really much of a problem for me since I have headphones and 90% of the time I’m playing a game with enough noise to block it out, or music

abstract kite Jan 16, 2020, 12:58 AM

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New fans are in! ...But you cant see them. lol I got a PWM Y splitter and hooked both intakes up to that. I was able to grab my other LL120 and put it in the case since I had a free fan header open.

She’s SO much quieter. Temps changed only by ~1C, but they were fine to begin with.

Looking forward to making this my daily driver for many years to come! 🙂

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fleet canopy Jan 16, 2020, 2:11 AM

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Nice

vapid crypt Jan 16, 2020, 2:13 AM

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I have a picture of my pc, but my camera is horrible that any light just over exposes and looks terrible phaWesker

fleet canopy Jan 16, 2020, 2:14 AM

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Haha

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That’s about many pictures

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They’re tons brighter than they really are

abstract kite Jan 16, 2020, 4:19 AM

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here’s two better pictures

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Well

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Nevermind

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they got resized

fleet canopy Jan 16, 2020, 4:23 AM

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Very purple

abstract kite Jan 16, 2020, 4:27 AM

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Much purple

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Very pretty

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imo

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I love the color purple

fleet canopy Jan 16, 2020, 4:28 AM

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Purple is neat

abstract kite Jan 16, 2020, 4:30 AM

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Live purple

dull cobalt Jan 16, 2020, 4:55 AM

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My computer has 24000 MB of ram and the game requires 2000, but its only accepting 1008... any solutions?

abstract kite Jan 16, 2020, 5:53 AM

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24GB and only 2GB are being utilized...

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Hmm

vapid crypt Jan 16, 2020, 5:54 AM

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So video cards have their own memory that is independent of system RAM called VRAM. Your video card does not meet the minimum 2gb spec unfortunately

fleet canopy Jan 16, 2020, 5:55 AM

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Yeah lol

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I don’t know why 1 or 2GB would even be utilized unless it was a piece of shit machine that’s shittier than an office PC

vapid crypt Jan 16, 2020, 5:56 AM

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It would probably run tweaking settings low, but that's a weird system configuration I have to say

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When a video card doesn't have enough VRAM for a game, it starts using the system RAM to make up for it

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This reduces performance over all because of the latency between PCIE and the RAM

fleet canopy Jan 16, 2020, 6:01 AM

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Hm

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So with PCIe 4.0, it would be easier to run if facing usage more than what your GPU has?

vapid crypt Jan 16, 2020, 6:05 AM

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The bandwidth makes no difference as far as I know, unlike the cpu it doesn't have instant access to the ram. So performance drops will always occur if the vram is inadequate.

fleet canopy Jan 16, 2020, 6:06 AM

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Mmk

sick reef Jan 16, 2020, 8:10 AM

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It's quite a noticeable performance drop.

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Usually stutters

fleet junco Jan 16, 2020, 9:48 AM

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NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERDS

sick reef Jan 16, 2020, 10:07 AM

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Ye

hexed horizon Jan 16, 2020, 10:10 AM

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bunch o nerds ova here

abstract kite Jan 16, 2020, 10:12 AM

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Gon go tinker on me radios

hollow ermine Jan 16, 2020, 10:44 AM

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so I need a bit of help I want to upgrade my current graphics card but i have no idea what to go for I currently have a GTX 1060 3GB

abstract kite Jan 16, 2020, 11:06 AM

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What’s your monitor resolution, ram, CPU, and?

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@hollow ermine

hollow ermine Jan 16, 2020, 11:29 AM

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1080p 16gb DDR4 and a ryzen 5 1600x and a 850w PSU

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@abstract kite

abstract kite Jan 16, 2020, 11:30 AM

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As far as GPU upgrade, I’d say an RTX 2060 Super would be good. Your 1600X is getting a bit dated too

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If you want to replace that sometime in the future, a 3600 is a good chip.

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@hollow ermine

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Alternatively, if a 2060 Super is too expensive, you can buy a GTX 1660 Super

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You’ll lose the ray tracing capabilities of the RTX card, but you wont notice much of an FPS difference

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Either card is a great upgrade.

hollow ermine Jan 16, 2020, 11:35 AM

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yeah im currently upgrading the gpu i will 100% be upgrading my cpu to a 3700x most likely

abstract kite Jan 16, 2020, 11:36 AM

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I run a 3700X

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Good chip

hollow ermine Jan 16, 2020, 11:36 AM

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ill probs go for the 2060 super though

abstract kite Jan 16, 2020, 11:36 AM

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Sounds like a plan then!

hollow ermine Jan 16, 2020, 11:36 AM

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appreciate the help

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also what sort of cooler do you run for the 3700x?

abstract kite Jan 16, 2020, 11:38 AM

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No problem! If you have any questions just tag me. I’ll send ya a response within 24hrs most of the time lol

I run a Be Quiet Dark Rock Pro 4. A little overkill for the 3700X, but I find it worth the cost. Its basically silent at idle and I hardly notice it at full load. It keeps temperatures reasonable too.

hollow ermine Jan 16, 2020, 11:39 AM

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so a 212 evo will be fine?

abstract kite Jan 16, 2020, 11:39 AM

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68-70C in Cinebench R20

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Umm

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The stock cooler for the 3700X is actually better than a 212 evo iirc

hollow ermine Jan 16, 2020, 11:39 AM

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if not ill go AIO water cooler r

abstract kite Jan 16, 2020, 11:39 AM

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hollow ermine Jan 16, 2020, 11:39 AM

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lul

abstract kite Jan 16, 2020, 11:39 AM

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Its a meme but its true lol

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I had a 240mm AIO before my DRP4

hollow ermine Jan 16, 2020, 11:40 AM

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ive never touched water cooling but i like to OC

abstract kite Jan 16, 2020, 11:40 AM

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Leaked everywhere.

hollow ermine Jan 16, 2020, 11:40 AM

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Oh jess

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jesus

abstract kite Jan 16, 2020, 11:41 AM

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A DRP4’s cooling capabilities is equivalent to at least a 240mm radiator.

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280mm I’d say

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Plus less maintenance

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And things to go wrong

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Not trying to steer you away from an AIO if thats what you want, but bear in mind there’s a few things you’ll want to keep an eye on.

hollow ermine Jan 16, 2020, 11:42 AM

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nah i was just interested in trying it but id rather not fry my pc lmfao

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but if the stock cooler is good ill probs stick with that till i can get anything better

abstract kite Jan 16, 2020, 11:42 AM

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The stock cooler is sufficient for stock speeds plus a little more.

dusty pumice Jan 16, 2020, 11:42 AM

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Why no work

abstract kite Jan 16, 2020, 11:43 AM

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Idk

dusty pumice Jan 16, 2020, 11:43 AM

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Catched lil bearz on lmfao

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not sleeping

abstract kite Jan 16, 2020, 11:43 AM

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Shhhh

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I was gonna help real quick then go

dusty pumice Jan 16, 2020, 11:43 AM

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Making them tacos

hollow ermine Jan 16, 2020, 11:43 AM

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eventually ill grab the DRP4 since it sounds good

abstract kite Jan 16, 2020, 11:43 AM

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I can’t help it I’m addicted to helping with PC tech

hollow ermine Jan 16, 2020, 11:44 AM

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haha

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I very much appreciate the help

abstract kite Jan 16, 2020, 11:44 AM

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No problem! Again, feel free to ask anything in the future

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If I cant answer it, I know Labcat probably can

hollow ermine Jan 16, 2020, 11:46 AM

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okay

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can i pick your brain about a new monitor to go with the gpu haha

abstract kite Jan 16, 2020, 11:47 AM

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Sure!

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What are you looking for exactly?

hollow ermine Jan 16, 2020, 11:48 AM

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1440p i think

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144hz

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or tbh 120hz would be enoough

abstract kite Jan 16, 2020, 11:50 AM

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Hmm

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Let me see

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Asus makes good monitors

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They have a hefty brand tax on them though.

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Do you like curved or straight monitors?

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Or would you be adversed to getting a curved one?

hollow ermine Jan 16, 2020, 11:52 AM

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i dont mind

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oh also another question when it comes to upgrading the CPU would i need to upgrade the motherboard too

abstract kite Jan 16, 2020, 11:53 AM

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What motherboard do you currently have?

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Also, what is your budget for a monitor?

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So I can get an idea of where the ballpark is so to speak.

hollow ermine Jan 16, 2020, 11:55 AM

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uhhh id say 300-500ish

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and ill have to check my motherboard one sec

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my motherboard is a B350M Mortar

jade ermine Jan 16, 2020, 12:04 PM

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When you are pc enthusiast and there is really nothing to upgrade/tinker with

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dusty pumice Jan 16, 2020, 12:05 PM

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Trust me theres always something

abstract kite Jan 16, 2020, 12:07 PM

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@hollow ermine This is a pretty good monitor and it’s sub-300 USD

https://www.amazon.com/Dell-27-Inch-LED-Lit-Monitor-S2719DGF/dp/B00N2L5CXO/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?keywords=dell+s+series+27+inch+monitor&qid=1579175939&sprefix=dell+s+s&sr=8-3

Unfortunately, B350 boards don’t support Ryzen 3000, so you will need to get a different board. However, you can get a B450 motherboard for fairly cheap.

Since Ryzen 3000 doesnt have much overclocking headroom, you don’t miss out on much by going with a B450 board. The only thing worth mentioning that you would not have would be PCIE 4.0. That’s found only on X570 boards at the moment, but they can get expensive. The only thing we have that utilized PCIE 4.0 to the fullest right now is NVME M.2 slots. A 2080ti can’t saturate PCIE 3.0 x16, so I doubt you’ll need 4.0 soon.

However, if you would like an X570 board for that little bit of overclocking headroom and PCIE 4.0, I can recommend a couple good budget options. I would need to know your case size though. That would be the deciding factor on what board I recommend ATX, mATX, ITX).

If you would like, I can create a PCPartPicker list with all the items so you can see the cost of everything in total.

jade ermine Jan 16, 2020, 12:07 PM

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Probably GPU when next generation gets released, Other than that im pretty much done for now lol

hollow ermine Jan 16, 2020, 12:10 PM

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Yeah i would like if you did that @abstract kite

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I would probably go for a B450 board tho

abstract kite Jan 16, 2020, 12:11 PM

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Sure thing! Give me a few moments.
What is your case size? ATX, mATX?

hollow ermine Jan 16, 2020, 12:11 PM

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ATX I think

abstract kite Jan 16, 2020, 12:11 PM

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Alright

jade ermine Jan 16, 2020, 12:12 PM

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🔮 inb4 B450 Tomahawk gets recommended by Bil🔮

abstract kite Jan 16, 2020, 12:14 PM

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Tis a good board my friend

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZRb227

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@hollow ermine You can ignore the incompatibility issue. The B450 Tomahawk Max (not the regular tomahawk) has a BIOS that supports Ryzen 3000 without requiring a BIOS flash.

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I chose an MSI 2060 Super since they have some of the better card designs out there imo

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EVGA is my personal go to brand, but their RTX series coolers look meh

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You can change the GPU to whatever 2060 Super variant you like. You’re not really going to have an issue with any of them.

hollow ermine Jan 16, 2020, 12:17 PM

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very much appreciate it

abstract kite Jan 16, 2020, 12:18 PM

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Your ram is compatible with the board so you dont need to worry about that

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And your PSU has more than enough wattage by far

hollow ermine Jan 16, 2020, 12:18 PM

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yeah the PSU is overkill for sure

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haha

abstract kite Jan 16, 2020, 12:18 PM

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I have an 850W PSU too

jade ermine Jan 16, 2020, 12:19 PM

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Nothing wrong with little overkill😉

abstract kite Jan 16, 2020, 12:19 PM

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Higher rated parts means less stress on lower loads 😉

jade ermine Jan 16, 2020, 12:19 PM

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Before you laugh, I got it for good price during sales ReversedConfusedUlf

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m'brick

hollow ermine Jan 16, 2020, 12:20 PM

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the inside of my pc would probably make Bil Learz die haha

dusty pumice Jan 16, 2020, 12:20 PM

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1200

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Goddamn

abstract kite Jan 16, 2020, 12:20 PM

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Nah. lol I’ve seen some dark stuff.

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And GG on that PSU

dusty pumice Jan 16, 2020, 12:21 PM

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Well good to have it anyway

abstract kite Jan 16, 2020, 12:21 PM

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Lord of the wattage

jade ermine Jan 16, 2020, 12:21 PM

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haha

dusty pumice Jan 16, 2020, 12:21 PM

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Got a good upgrade path there lmfao

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Can you snap a pic of the full case unlucky or maybe you have one

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I like them white builds just never dare to do it myself

jade ermine Jan 16, 2020, 12:22 PM

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I just panicked after my 750W 1.5 year old superflower leadex2 decided to seppuku. Hopefully this one lasts years to come

hollow ermine Jan 16, 2020, 12:22 PM

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My current case is white and I regret it

abstract kite Jan 16, 2020, 12:22 PM

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I’ve been up for nearly 24hrs so I’m going to catch a few winks. It’s 6am here in US CST.

@hollow ermine If you have any more questions feel free to ask in this chat or DM me directly. 🙂

jade ermine Jan 16, 2020, 12:22 PM

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@dusty pumice Sure thing. Hope you dont mind phone pictures

hollow ermine Jan 16, 2020, 12:22 PM

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Will do thanks for your help

dusty pumice Jan 16, 2020, 12:22 PM

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@jade ermine a picture is a picture boss = )

sick reef Jan 16, 2020, 12:23 PM

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That 1200 is larger than my 1300.

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monakHmm

dusty pumice Jan 16, 2020, 12:23 PM

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And a random labcat shows up lol

sick reef Jan 16, 2020, 12:24 PM

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ppHandsUp

dusty pumice Jan 16, 2020, 12:24 PM

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SwampMonster

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I raise you this ^

jade ermine Jan 16, 2020, 12:24 PM

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@dusty pumice

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sick reef Jan 16, 2020, 12:24 PM

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peepoStroke

jade ermine Jan 16, 2020, 12:25 PM

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@dusty pumice here's few

dusty pumice Jan 16, 2020, 12:25 PM

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Holy that does look good in the 500D

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its a 500D right?

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or is it a different variant unsure

jade ermine Jan 16, 2020, 12:26 PM

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It's 570X

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Older model

dusty pumice Jan 16, 2020, 12:26 PM

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Welp im wrong then lol

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Stil does look mighty fine

jade ermine Jan 16, 2020, 12:26 PM

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Thanks! I hated building in it

dusty pumice Jan 16, 2020, 12:26 PM

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Lmfao i would believe that

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What where the biggest set backs?

jade ermine Jan 16, 2020, 12:28 PM

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Radiator compatibility, PSU shroud, Cable management and having glass backpanel.
4xThumbscrews on every panel is kinda pain too😅

dusty pumice Jan 16, 2020, 12:29 PM

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Lmfao

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I already feel that pain with only 2x 4 thumbscrew panels

jade ermine Jan 16, 2020, 12:29 PM

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Also i got really lucky with my GPU fitting in there

dusty pumice Jan 16, 2020, 12:29 PM

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The way it looks you have so much more space in your room

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than i do i just have my desk where i am able to display my cases and its clutthered with paperwork

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Even tho my desk is pretty decent size it feels small because i have so much shit on top of it

jade ermine Jan 16, 2020, 12:31 PM

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i can relate to that

dusty pumice Jan 16, 2020, 12:31 PM

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One day ill be lucky enough to move to a different house and get a bigger office = )

jade ermine Jan 16, 2020, 12:31 PM

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My main desk is 160cm wide and its so full of shit. Had to yoink this old desk thingy for computer and stuff because i dont want to keep it on floor

dusty pumice Jan 16, 2020, 12:31 PM

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Im stil considering cases at the moment for my upcoming build's so i was looking myself into the 500D and 500D RGB SE or whatever its name is and the 1000D

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And looked into some Phanteks and Thermaltake

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My desk is two meters wide

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and its full of shit + 3 monitors 2x vertical one horizontal

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The main monitor is a 32 inch curved 1800R

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I mean the "side" desk doesnt look bad tbh

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Its a nice display for the case imho

jade ermine Jan 16, 2020, 12:34 PM

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My monitor setup looks like this. Next to them are speakers and headphone amp🙃 Can you borrow that 2M desk 😅

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dusty pumice Jan 16, 2020, 12:34 PM

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that looks super good too

jade ermine Jan 16, 2020, 12:34 PM

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@dusty pumice Yea atleast that side desk is really solid

dusty pumice Jan 16, 2020, 12:34 PM

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Whatever and whenever i look for a new desk or side desk

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most important thing is that it cant start to sag or break from all the weight

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I prefer hardwood but try to stay low in weight so i can relativly easily move it around to clean and cable manage

jade ermine Jan 16, 2020, 12:36 PM

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Always go for solid wooden tabletop

dusty pumice Jan 16, 2020, 12:36 PM

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I have a steel support frame for it

jade ermine Jan 16, 2020, 12:37 PM

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Absolute unit

dusty pumice Jan 16, 2020, 12:37 PM

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Definetly worth every penny i paid for it

jade ermine Jan 16, 2020, 12:37 PM

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I bet

dusty pumice Jan 16, 2020, 12:39 PM

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Unlucky from what company is that temp device in the loop?

jade ermine Jan 16, 2020, 12:39 PM

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It's made by barrow. Got most of the fittings from china.

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It's just a visual thing, I have temp sensor that plugs in to my motherboard and i set fan curve following water temperature.

dusty pumice Jan 16, 2020, 12:41 PM

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Yeah i understand that but for a visual thing it doesnt look bad

jade ermine Jan 16, 2020, 12:41 PM

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I agree. It's fun to keep eye on it when you play games and such

dusty pumice Jan 16, 2020, 12:42 PM

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Removes a bit of the black tube too

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Doesnt look half bad

jade ermine Jan 16, 2020, 12:42 PM

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Oh my god talking about black tubing, You have no idea how pain free its to work with compared to my old solution...

dusty pumice Jan 16, 2020, 12:43 PM

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Lmfao

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I was planning on going black tubing for a custom loop this month too

jade ermine Jan 16, 2020, 12:44 PM

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You see i used to have chromed brass pipes with zero soft tubing. You can imagine how much work it was when you decided to change parts in your rig...

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But in the other hand it looked pretty freaking sweet

dusty pumice Jan 16, 2020, 12:45 PM

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I dont like that flashly look myself

jade ermine Jan 16, 2020, 12:45 PM

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I was all about it myself lol

dusty pumice Jan 16, 2020, 12:45 PM

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But it does look good but hardtube is alot of extra work yeah

jade ermine Jan 16, 2020, 12:46 PM

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Black EPDM tubing is the way to go

dusty pumice Jan 16, 2020, 12:46 PM

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I mean sometimes you make decisions that bite you in the ass on a later date lol

jade ermine Jan 16, 2020, 12:46 PM

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i can recommend it

dusty pumice Jan 16, 2020, 12:46 PM

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Black tube is mostly issue free i heard too

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Havent had my hands on it just yet

jade ermine Jan 16, 2020, 12:47 PM

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Yup. No kinks, No tubes going gray, No plasticize

dusty pumice Jan 16, 2020, 12:47 PM

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Yup thats what i heard about it

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I was planning on building a custom loop for my i7-7700k just because its running very hot

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but imma go and undervolt it first this weekend and see if something changes

jade ermine Jan 16, 2020, 12:48 PM

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Only complain i can think is that those tightening rings on fittings might be hard to screw in tight. Because this tubing is kinda rubbery material you see

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your fingers will hate it if you get wrong fittings

dusty pumice Jan 16, 2020, 12:48 PM

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I might stil decide to build a loop and just take it with me to my AMD 4000 series build coming up later this year or next

jade ermine Jan 16, 2020, 12:49 PM

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Sounds good. It's great fun and feels really satisfying when everything is up and running

dusty pumice Jan 16, 2020, 12:49 PM

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I will have someone help me with it so i wont be building alone

jade ermine Jan 16, 2020, 12:49 PM

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Good idea.

dusty pumice Jan 16, 2020, 12:49 PM

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Its always nice to have some help and get someone elses imput

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with some more expierence than myself

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I dont have much free time because of work related stuff so its nice to get things going good the first time around instead of wasting needles amounts of time

jade ermine Jan 16, 2020, 12:50 PM

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I actually build loop for my friend last year. Took 2 hours from start to leak testing 😄
Single 360mm radiator and big case so it was really easy project

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oh and soft tubing

dusty pumice Jan 16, 2020, 12:51 PM

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thats nice!

jade ermine Jan 16, 2020, 12:51 PM

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He also has 7700K

dusty pumice Jan 16, 2020, 12:51 PM

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Yeah the 7700k has been rough on me

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Temps just arent what i want them to be

jade ermine Jan 16, 2020, 12:52 PM

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That stock thermal compound under heatspreader aint the best

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delid will do wonders

dusty pumice Jan 16, 2020, 12:53 PM

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I was thinking about delidding

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But since i have been using it for 2 - 3 years now, and havent done it yet and ill be not using the cpu anymore idk if its worth the effort to go through with it

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Should of done it long time ago thats my biggest regret

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but its not my main system so

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🤪

jade ermine Jan 16, 2020, 12:54 PM

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I ordered one of those delid tools from china. I can report back how angry/happy i made my friend with that xD

dusty pumice Jan 16, 2020, 12:54 PM

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Lmfao

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did your friend decide on delidding his 7700k?

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or was that already delidded before the loop

jade ermine Jan 16, 2020, 12:54 PM

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He started thinking about delid after loop

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Mostly thinks the process is scary and i get that. He paid good amount of money for that chip

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buuut in the other hand its kinda hard to fuck it up

dusty pumice Jan 16, 2020, 12:56 PM

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I mean i have a AIO right now, had to replace the fans and set a maximum rpm to the pump

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I dont find it scary at all

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I just find it a waste to spend more money on the chip than what it already is right now

jade ermine Jan 16, 2020, 12:56 PM

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True

dusty pumice Jan 16, 2020, 12:56 PM

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The whole loop thing wouldnt be a waste since it can be carried over

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But its stil a decent chunk of money

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I have like a maximum budget of 800 euros right now

jade ermine Jan 16, 2020, 12:57 PM

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He ain't as tech savvy as me so when i explained i need to force that heatspreader off and put liquid metal in there he went little pale lmao

dusty pumice Jan 16, 2020, 12:57 PM

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What i am willing to spend on this PC thats either a switch of mobo + cpu or delid + custom loop

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or staying aio / going back aircooler and undervolt it

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I believe the problem with not tech savy people doing a delid is that they need to take more care of it

jade ermine Jan 16, 2020, 12:58 PM

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With smart choices custom loop doesent have to be that expensive. Just dont cheap out with pump.

dusty pumice Jan 16, 2020, 12:58 PM

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and they cant so they usually need either a good friend with plenty of time to take care of it

jade ermine Jan 16, 2020, 12:58 PM

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I mean it will be expensive but not as bad as you think

dusty pumice Jan 16, 2020, 12:59 PM

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I mean the thing im scared about is that i will run into the same issues i have now

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Theres more liquid in the loop but once that heats up will there be any better results in temperature left

jade ermine Jan 16, 2020, 1:00 PM

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Amount of liquid does not matter. Radiator surface area does

dusty pumice Jan 16, 2020, 1:00 PM

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If you have some points to give me some advice its always welcome on the loop or otherwise = )

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I mean radiator can only cool so much

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Im thinking about going push and pull on fans only for that reason^

jade ermine Jan 16, 2020, 1:01 PM

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slaps the roof of the radiator
This baby can cool anything

📎 IMG_2223.JPG

dusty pumice Jan 16, 2020, 1:02 PM

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thats something i havent tought about lol

jade ermine Jan 16, 2020, 1:02 PM

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Jokes aside, Good rule is to have 240mm of radiator for each component you are cooling. More is better.

dusty pumice Jan 16, 2020, 1:03 PM

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Will be one component

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I was thinking crazy and wanted to do the ram too

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but imho fuck that lol

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It has something to do with the thickness of the radiator too i believe?

jade ermine Jan 16, 2020, 1:03 PM

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With my old setup i had 360mm + 240mm radiators cooling my CPU and GPU. Water temperature during load was around 37C
With my big ass radiator + 360mm it stays under 30C = 8C better temperatures

dusty pumice Jan 16, 2020, 1:03 PM

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for push and pull the radiator needs to be a bit on the thinner side

jade ermine Jan 16, 2020, 1:04 PM

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Thicker radiator = More surface area = better cooling correct

dusty pumice Jan 16, 2020, 1:04 PM

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What would be better then

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Thicker and no push pull or thinner and push pull

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I think thicker then?

jade ermine Jan 16, 2020, 1:05 PM

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push pull is pointless, I cant really recommend it unless you have tons of fans laying around.

fleet canopy Jan 16, 2020, 1:05 PM

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Hm

dusty pumice Jan 16, 2020, 1:05 PM

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Btw just a fyi inbetween i couldnt find that barrow product so might stopped making em

jade ermine Jan 16, 2020, 1:05 PM

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I can link it

dusty pumice Jan 16, 2020, 1:05 PM

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Yeah okay that makes sense

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So just go thick and go one layer fans

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Are thicker radiators harder to clean or it doesnt matter that much?

jade ermine Jan 16, 2020, 1:06 PM

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Does not matter that much. Pressured air or compucleaner will take care of dust

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was it thicc or not

dusty pumice Jan 16, 2020, 1:07 PM

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I mean i have a compressor i can use

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so problems are there to be easily fixed lol

jade ermine Jan 16, 2020, 1:07 PM

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You are correct, Barrow does not make these anymore.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32873079613.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.5c011b1bP0tst5&algo_pvid=56c13aa8-b3f5-4bcb-8eec-21a68d4e821e&algo_expid=56c13aa8-b3f5-4bcb-8eec-21a68d4e821e-0&btsid=5c792862-001f-4508-8db1-c766b884f9a4&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_8,searchweb201603_53
Bykski does.

dusty pumice Jan 16, 2020, 1:08 PM

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i seen the bykski product

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The barrow looks cleaner but hey gotta make do with what you can get i guess

jade ermine Jan 16, 2020, 1:08 PM

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Yeh lol

dusty pumice Jan 16, 2020, 1:08 PM

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Full black bykski doesnt look bad

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only takes 60 - 120 days delivery for the shop in my country

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Lmfao

jade ermine Jan 16, 2020, 1:09 PM

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Took 2 weeks for me

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EU gang

dusty pumice Jan 16, 2020, 1:09 PM

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I am eu too

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i could get a silver

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thats in stock

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and just replace it later with black

jade ermine Jan 16, 2020, 1:10 PM

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Probably just making up big number so people cant complain if it takes 2 months for whatever reason lol

dusty pumice Jan 16, 2020, 1:10 PM

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True true

fleet canopy Jan 16, 2020, 1:11 PM

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Unless it takes 2 months for food to arrive

jade ermine Jan 16, 2020, 1:11 PM

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(dont order food from china)

dusty pumice Jan 16, 2020, 1:11 PM

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Well that talk helped a bit with some decision making i was struggling with

jade ermine Jan 16, 2020, 1:11 PM

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Feel free to ask about anything watercooling related

dusty pumice Jan 16, 2020, 1:11 PM

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I do stil have my mobo and cpu up for sale tho for 400 euros lmfao

fleet canopy Jan 16, 2020, 1:12 PM

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Kek

dusty pumice Jan 16, 2020, 1:12 PM

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Was pretty fed up with it after having cleaned and rebuild the whole system this christmas

jade ermine Jan 16, 2020, 1:12 PM

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heh

hidden obsidian Jan 16, 2020, 2:06 PM

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Could someone please help me install windows onto an ssd. I did it already but it only boots when my old hdd is plugged in. I don’t get it. I also can’t install it because it says it’s not a valid ssd to download windows onto unless my old hdd is plugged in.

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It’s a weird and annoying problem.

jade ermine Jan 16, 2020, 2:10 PM

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SSD is selected as boot device right?

hidden obsidian Jan 16, 2020, 2:13 PM

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Well, when my hdd and ssd are plugged in I can boot from my ssd just fine. But if I unplug my hdd the ssd doesn’t even show up as a bootable device.

jade ermine Jan 16, 2020, 2:16 PM

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Try enabling CSM

hidden obsidian Jan 16, 2020, 2:33 PM

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I’m pretty sure I’ve done everything bios related

brisk badger Jan 16, 2020, 4:08 PM

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Did you install the boot manager in the cloud? Jokes aside try unplugging your hdd before installing windows on the ssd

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If windows keeps complaining then your bios settings do not qualify, for windows 10 requirements. Most likely CSM disabled

median moon Jan 16, 2020, 4:35 PM

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did you turn it off and on again /s

sick reef Jan 16, 2020, 5:54 PM

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People talking radiators and stuff. If you get a pressure fan, a good one, it doesn't matter the thickness of the radiator, because then fan will put air through it regardless. That's the point of those kinds of fans.

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Pure airflow fans will be severly inefficient.

vapid crypt Jan 16, 2020, 5:58 PM

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Yes, its a job for static pressure optimized fans

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I highly recommend Arctic's Bionix P series fans, they're very good for that sort of thing. Be it on radiators, or for front intake through a mesh/filter whatever

sick reef Jan 16, 2020, 5:59 PM

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I'd recommend just looking up the information regarding most fans and comparing them that way. That's what I did, at least.

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Technical Datasheets are freely available.

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Then of course looking up user reviews to some extent, to see if there are some quirks to the specific fan.

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That in turn can too turn weird if they don't specify methodology, of course, but most good brands should.

rancid kindle Jan 16, 2020, 10:55 PM

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https://www.nzxt.com/products/h700-pubg-limited-edition

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Hey so i have this case but no other parts for it

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What parts would you guys recommend i get? (I won this case so preferably want to budget this pc)

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I'd say a budget of about $1000-1500 if possible

fleet canopy Jan 16, 2020, 11:07 PM

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Well then

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Time to make a liiiiist

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gG8HRk 1.3K USD, and pretty great parts

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If you are interested in games that will have RTX, then go for 2070 Super. You can get a 3700X instead of 3600 if you are likely to do streaming if that’s your thing

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Also, if you are looking forward to overclocking, you may do so with getting a better CPU cooler

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Oh ywah

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I forgot the fans like always

abstract kite Jan 16, 2020, 11:22 PM

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@fleet canopy X570 isnt necessary for a 3600 tbf

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Its nice but hard to justfy imo

fleet canopy Jan 16, 2020, 11:25 PM

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Alrighty

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He could use the PCIe 4.0 though, having an M.2

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/q8Dzk6

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A little over 1500$, unless you don’t include the monitor

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Fans were like 20-25$ each, totaling 100$

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Should be like 1540-1600$

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He can go for a B450 Max if he wants to ig

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Should lower the price by an okay amount

abstract kite Jan 16, 2020, 11:32 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QWgPK4

fleet canopy Jan 16, 2020, 11:33 PM

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Here’s a neato build now, should be 100& less https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WqCrmg

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Hm

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What’s different with Evo and QVO

abstract kite Jan 16, 2020, 11:35 PM

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QVO has slightly slower speeds, but in real world applications its not noticeable.

You can get more storage for cheaper with QVO, so it’s a nice investment.
Sabrent makes fire M.2 SSDs that show how overpriced Samsung’s are.

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3700X is better imo, and it can be sufficiently cooled with the stock cooler for regular productivity use

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Trident Z Neo is tuned for Ryzen out of the box, so enable XMP and you’re good to go.

fleet canopy Jan 16, 2020, 11:36 PM

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Yeah, but still see many get 3600 and 5700XT

abstract kite Jan 16, 2020, 11:37 PM

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I recommend 3600 as well, but for some it may let down. I’ll modify the part list a tad.

fleet canopy Jan 16, 2020, 11:37 PM

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Also assuming that he doesn’t have a 1080p 144hz monitor too

abstract kite Jan 16, 2020, 11:39 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RdBrmg

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Unless he didnt request one, I wouldnt add it personally

fleet canopy Jan 16, 2020, 11:40 PM

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Well he can fit in a 1080p 144hz monitor at least, if he decides so

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That’ll top off the 1500$ max

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Wonder why the RAM. Any kit is good tbh

abstract kite Jan 17, 2020, 12:08 AM

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@fleet canopy Neo is made for Ryzen specifically

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You're guaranteed to hit advertised speeds just with XMP

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 12:08 AM

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Neat

abstract kite Jan 17, 2020, 12:09 AM

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So unless you want to go through the process of timing the ram yourself, Neo is ready to go.

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 12:09 AM

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So like it’d take some time trying to set XMP with any other non Ryzen supported RAM- ah

abstract kite Jan 17, 2020, 12:09 AM

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Not necessarily

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You still could

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But the voltages and such could be different

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Mine runs C16 16-19-19-39 1.35v 3600mhz

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Not the fastest timings, but good enough to handle what I want

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The ram you had was C16 16-18-18-38, but was 3200mhz

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Minor differences

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Does it really matter? Probably not.

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And for the sake of cash, probably could drop it to the 3200mhz

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 12:15 AM

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Not really much of a drop in price though, yeah?

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And 3200 compared to 3600 doesn’t really have much of a difference unless your timings are something

abstract kite Jan 17, 2020, 12:17 AM

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And tbf the subtle difference in timings still makes the 3600mhz Neo better

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Yknow what

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I'm gonna go full budget mode on this ram

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 12:32 AM

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Lol

abstract kite Jan 17, 2020, 1:12 AM

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@rancid kindle So here's what @fleet canopy and I put together
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XL97vW

Part list:

AMD Ryzen 3600 - $189.99 USD
be quiet! Dark Rock Slim CPU Cooler - $57.00 USD
Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WiFi) ATX Case $189.99 USD
Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16GB 3200mhz Memory - $87.99 USD
Samsung 860 QVO 1TB SSD - $106.99 USD
Sabrent Rocket 512GB M.2 SSD - $79.98 USD
Sapphire Nitro+ 8GB 5700XT - $449.99 USD
Corsair RM 750W PSU - $119.99 USD
Noctua NH-F14 140mm Fan (x2) - $49.80 USD
Acer XF270H 27" 1080p 144hz Monitor - $139.99 USD

Total Cost:
$1471.71 USD

This list is including a monitor. If you don't need one, we can remove it and add a few more fans and maybe upgrade the air cooler, but this system should be fine as is.

rancid kindle Jan 17, 2020, 1:12 AM

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DAAAMN you guys went off! I appreciate this omg

abstract kite Jan 17, 2020, 1:12 AM

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No problem! We're always happy to help!

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The link I posted above is to a physical list of the parts. From there you can find links to the vendors that are selling the parts at those advertised prices.

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 1:13 AM

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You’re welcome anytime haha

rancid kindle Jan 17, 2020, 1:14 AM

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This is epic

abstract kite Jan 17, 2020, 1:14 AM

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Btw Mayo I chose that ram because the timings were tighter at 3200mhz

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and saved money too 👍

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 1:14 AM

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Neat

abstract kite Jan 17, 2020, 1:14 AM

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C16 16-18-18-36

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AHH my bad

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the link is for a different one

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let me modify it

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 1:16 AM

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Ho ho ho

abstract kite Jan 17, 2020, 1:21 AM

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@rancid kindle Had the wrong link posted. Updated the link now so it should be the right parts. The Noctua fans are currently out of stock, hence why they look free in the link. lol

I also had the final cost wrong, updated that as well. It's sub $1500

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Now I'm gonna go eat

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lol I shall be back

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 1:21 AM

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Kek

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Have a good time

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 1:22 AM

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That monitor listed is renewed, I would be careful with renewed products. Dead Pixels phaKrauser In any case Amazon would refund/replace easily though

rancid kindle Jan 17, 2020, 1:22 AM

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👌👌👌

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 1:22 AM

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Refunds/Replacements are free, ywah?

abstract kite Jan 17, 2020, 1:22 AM

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Ahh didnt check that

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 1:22 AM

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If you have Prime yeah

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 1:23 AM

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Get a refurbished 1080p 144hz for 100$, if it’s got too many dead pixels, cheap monitor got!

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Then they’ll give you a non refurbished and it’ll be cool

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 1:24 AM

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The laptop I used to use everyday got a clump of dead pixels almost in the center of its panel, it was awful phaWesker

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 1:24 AM

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Damn lol

rancid kindle Jan 17, 2020, 1:24 AM

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I do have prime

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But this is amazing <3

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gAmErS aReNt fRiEnDLy yeah ok Gamers rise up

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 1:26 AM

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Hopefully it’ll be near same price or lower for you. Going one retailer is kind of shit since other retailers got it a bit cheaper

rancid kindle Jan 17, 2020, 1:27 AM

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📎 20200116_202734.jpg

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This thing is uge

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 1:28 AM

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Not even too big depending on what I know of the H700 I believe

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Maybe I’m wrong

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 1:30 AM

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I'm gonna contribute a list for mixing and matching parts, the XFX 5700 is $320 that's a great value tbh. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PwYL4n I like a good deal phaSip

rancid kindle Jan 17, 2020, 1:31 AM

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I mean I'm currently using an Intel Nuc

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So any pc is huge in comparison

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 1:31 AM

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I heard about those Nucs recently, how do they fair?

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 1:32 AM

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You could get a Sapphire nitro 5700 XT for 400$ if you like

rancid kindle Jan 17, 2020, 1:32 AM

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I mean. It's been through a lot. It fits in my pocket. It runs LoL and minecraft nicely. But getting into games like this or Destiny 2 it has a hard time

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 1:33 AM

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Indeed

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I bet like 30FPS?

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 1:33 AM

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You mean the Sapphire Pulse?

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 1:33 AM

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Sapphire pulse yeah

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 1:33 AM

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Cause yeah that's basically 400

late sorrel Jan 17, 2020, 1:34 AM

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i thought that was 440

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 1:34 AM

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It’s a 2 fan, but it should be okay

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 1:34 AM

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It would work well with the red the case has cause it just has a red led

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 1:34 AM

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That’s nitro plus

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 1:34 AM

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It's one of the best dual fans tbh

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 1:34 AM

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Ah, I thought some heat might be the case for the GPU but that’s pretty cool

rancid kindle Jan 17, 2020, 1:35 AM

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jUsT GeT a 2080ti

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Idek what that is i just know its like $2000

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 1:36 AM

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That and probably MSI's gaming X, their fucken Evoke and Mech probably aren't that great. These are 1440p cards though so high refresh 1080 would be no problem for a 5700, which is why the XFX DD Ultra 5700 at 320 looks really good

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 1:36 AM

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Good 2080 Ti cards can go for 1200-1500$

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2000$ is more like

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No good reason tbh unless it’s workstation

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Or you want to blow all your money

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 1:38 AM

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I saw this guy on youtube that got a Dell OEM 2080ti for about 1000, blower card phaWesker

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 1:38 AM

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The next GPU is supposed to be better than 2080 ti by 20-25%

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And priced 1100$, pretty fucking cool price

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Very AMD

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 1:38 AM

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Oh boy it does not run cool

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Where are you getting these numbers?

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 1:39 AM

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1100$ and 20-25%? A leak from benchmark video was found

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 1:39 AM

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I would take any price as a grain of salt

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 1:39 AM

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I mean maybe

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 1:39 AM

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But yeah they would likely match price for better performance

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 1:40 AM

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But knowing AMD they go lower price than NVIDIDA

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5700XT and 2070 Super is same thing, yet only a 50-150$ difference

rancid kindle Jan 17, 2020, 1:42 AM

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Ok so that was actually all for my older brother (who has no idea ab this type of stuff either) but he was the one that got that case. I wanted to put together a list for him as a present bc he's let that case sit in the basement for a month now

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https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/CQGz7T
This is my pc, one of my computer friends from school put this cart together. I've had it for about 4 months, anything you guys think i should upgrade or does it look pretty solid?

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 1:47 AM

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Get the sabrent rocket instead of the 660p, it performs better and is cheaper.

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I regret not knowing about it until now actually phaWesker

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 1:48 AM

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Board might not have support for 3000

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 1:48 AM

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Also I would heed the compatibility warning there as well since I have no idea with Gigabyte is rolling out B450s with update bios

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If you're gonna get B450 look at MSI's Max line, like the Tomahawk Max

rancid kindle Jan 17, 2020, 1:49 AM

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I mean it's been running nicely for the past few months

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 1:50 AM

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Oh you have it already, I thought it was just a list you've had for a while

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I mean you're playing a 1080p I would assume? That's perfectly fine I would say don't worry about upgrading for now, unless you decide to upgrade the monitor

rancid kindle Jan 17, 2020, 1:52 AM

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Perfect yeah thats what i was thinking, too soon to look for upgrades. I've seen many talks of overclocking but idk how and I've been told I shouldn't touch it unless i know what to do

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 1:53 AM

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Actually yeah that's one thing you could upgrade, the CPU cooler

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I don't see one listed on there, meaning you're probably using the stock one?

rancid kindle Jan 17, 2020, 1:54 AM

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🤷🏻‍♂️

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 1:54 AM

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Uh, you didn't put it together yourself huh?

rancid kindle Jan 17, 2020, 1:54 AM

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Oh i did. That was a hassle

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I'm literal 2head with this type of stuft

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 1:54 AM

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Okay, did you use the cooler that was supplied with the CPU?

rancid kindle Jan 17, 2020, 1:55 AM

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I guess so. I don't remember takint anything out or using anything that isn't on that list

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 1:56 AM

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Since there isn't a cooler on the list, then that is the most likely case. The one that comes with it is fine, but getting a better cooler lowering temperatures will improve performance overall

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Don't even need to overclock, the cpu will just boost higher naturally

rancid kindle Jan 17, 2020, 1:57 AM

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Okok. What would you recommend? I just worked a bunch and just paid tuition so i have some $ to spend

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 1:58 AM

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Best one for the money https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/PnPKHx/arctic-freezer-34-esports-duo-cpu-cooler-acfre00061a

rancid kindle Jan 17, 2020, 1:59 AM

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Epic. Putting it in the pc tho, how tough? Would i have to take everything out?

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 2:00 AM

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Um no, there's online instructions included. Arctic is pretty slick with it, they add a QR code/site that you can navigate to on your phone

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Has a whole animation detailing how to install it

rancid kindle Jan 17, 2020, 2:00 AM

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SwampMonster2

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Ok sick

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Screw it ima order that rn

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 2:01 AM

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But basically you would remove the cooler on there already, you would have to clean off any thermal paste

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Oh there's a video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK7qj3_b_UM

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Don't even need to remove the backplate that comes with the motherboard, that's pretty good phaSheva

rancid kindle Jan 17, 2020, 2:04 AM

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👌👌👌

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<3

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Ty man

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 2:04 AM

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For sure, careful removing the cpu cooler

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The paste they use on there likes to stick to the CPU heat spreader

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Don't want to lift the cpu out by accident

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Bending a pin or something

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And to clean off the paste, I recommend using isopropyl alcohol and something like a coffee filter. Coffee filters are good because unlike paper towels they don't leave fibers behind

rancid kindle Jan 17, 2020, 2:07 AM

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Big brain

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Ok. It'll arrive in ab 24h

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 2:10 AM

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Bezos finally followed through on that one day shipping phaWesker

rancid kindle Jan 17, 2020, 2:12 AM

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Ikr

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 2:12 AM

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By the way you never got any extra fans put into your case huh?

rancid kindle Jan 17, 2020, 2:13 AM

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Thats all i got lol

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Anything i could add?

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I was on a tight budget when i bought it

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 2:14 AM

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Uh the front panel is fairly restricted on airflow, like it looks like it would only pull air from the top and bottom slits

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It could benefit to add at least one fan to blow into the gpu though

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And another on the top exhausting air

rancid kindle Jan 17, 2020, 2:16 AM

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In about 45 mins i can go take pictures of how i have it all setup

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 2:17 AM

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You could also replace the one fan that came with the case too, that would improve things as well

rancid kindle Jan 17, 2020, 2:17 AM

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Maybe it'd be recommended i move stuff around

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Okok

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 2:17 AM

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Not by too much probably, but stock case fans typically are louder and are generally just okay

rancid kindle Jan 17, 2020, 2:40 AM

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@fleet canopy @abstract kite @vapid crypt

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 2:40 AM

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Yes

rancid kindle Jan 17, 2020, 2:40 AM

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My brother is v thankful. Sent it to his friends and this was their feedback

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Would go for 2700(x) cpu, cheaper cooler master cpu air fan or same price water AIO. Dunno who sabrent is. Crucial P1 1tb nvme when in stock is 99$ and save buying second drive. Can definitely go cheaper on the psu like 60-80$. The monitor feels too cheap. Closer to $200 get one with free sync especially with pubg.

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 2:41 AM

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Uh yeah that all seems like decent feedback

rancid kindle Jan 17, 2020, 2:41 AM

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Idk what any of it means

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But

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What's your opinions?

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 2:41 AM

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Its Canada pricing, so I dunno what the price difference is on the 3600 and the 2700, but the 2700 is great value so phaWesker

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 2:42 AM

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2700X is better than 3600 probably cause 8 cores on 2700X

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 2:42 AM

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And for cooler I'd say just get the same one I recommended, that's a fantastic cooler

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 2:42 AM

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Same OC can be reached as well

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But yeah, no idea what’s the price for you

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Unless you meant yourself

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cause he is probably American to the fact he said for 1000-1500$ price

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 2:44 AM

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If you can get a 1tb crucial p1 for 100 bucks, that's not bad. But its worth mentioning the Sabrent NVME drives are on par with Samsung whilst being 20% cheaper or more?

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I think more, cause a 512gb Sabrent is 80; while a Samsung is 70 for a 256gb or something like that

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 2:46 AM

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I think Samsung 250GB is like

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Lemme.m check

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Lemme.m check

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 2:46 AM

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Last I checked it was 70

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That's the 970 evo plus

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Okay so in CA, the 3600 is like $55 more than the 2700; the price difference with the 2700X v 3600 is 20 so I would go for the 3600 in that case

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What was the budget again?

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 2:48 AM

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Yeah

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Max of 1500

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 2:49 AM

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1500 CAD, oh boy what is that in USD phaWesker

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 2:50 AM

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1500 USD

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 2:50 AM

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Just 1150

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 2:50 AM

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Didn’t say it was Canada currency

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 2:51 AM

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Well its Canada, their dollar is weaker unfortunately. New games are $80 ConfusedUlf

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So this is what I threw together https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/bjCDJb

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Looking it over I'm not sure if the ram is supported with the mobo and cpu, might change that phaSheva

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There is room in the budget for a 3600 still though

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 3:04 AM

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3600 and 3700 same price, hm

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I mean 2700

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 3:05 AM

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Nah its 55 less, the 2700X and 3600 are really close though

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 3:05 AM

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Ah

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 3:05 AM

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Also I just remembered taxes phaCrow

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 3:05 AM

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Ho ho

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Well it’s 1100$ CAD

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Not too bad a price tbh

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 3:06 AM

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What is?

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 3:06 AM

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The part list

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 3:07 AM

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No, its 1400

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 3:07 AM

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How’d I misread that

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 3:08 AM

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No clue phaWesker

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 3:08 AM

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Well imma do something real quick

abstract kite Jan 17, 2020, 3:29 AM

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@rancid kindle 2700X will not give better gaming performance than a 3600. If you intend to stream, the 2700X with the more cores will be useful. If you only plan to game, the 3600 is the superior chip (and faster).

Cooler master makes decent air coolers, but the hyper 212 evo (assuming that is the one that is being referred to) does not have any benefit when overclocking. It's simply a better cooler for stock CPU speeds.

A water AIO at the same price of the be quiet! dark rock slim will probably perform just the same. The only difference is you have more things that could fail (dead pumps and leakage isn't fun. I know from experience).

Sabrent makes good M.2 SSDs, but if you would prefer a crucial NVME I can make changes to the list for that.

I disagree when it comes to the power supply however. Power supplies rated for higher wattage than required will be more efficient, and also draw less current from the wall. They provide expandability as well for future systems, and provided that they are a good brand, will last a long time too.

As far as the monitor goes, I will do a bit of research on what is a better monitor. For 1080P 144hz I'm guessing 250 will get you a good sample, but I'll try to confirm that guess and post a good monitor.

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 3:35 AM

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250$

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?

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Sounds like an ASUS ROG price

remote horizon Jan 17, 2020, 3:36 AM

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I got a Dell 1080p 144hz for like 200

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 3:36 AM

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Honestly any 1080p 144hz monitor is good as long as you know how the reviews are

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Best prices are 170-220$

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 3:37 AM

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I remember monitor shopping a long while ago, I saw a 144hz dell for sub 200

abstract kite Jan 17, 2020, 3:37 AM

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@rancid kindle Modified the part list with the changes that I saw fit.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/g3Gx27

AMD Ryzen 3600 - $189.99 USD
be quiet! Dark Rock Slim CPU Cooler - $57.00 USD
Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WiFi) ATX Case $189.99 USD
G.Skill Trident Z Neo 16GB 3600mhz Memory - $108.99 USD
Crucial P1 1TB NVME Drive - $99.99 USD
Sapphire Nitro+ 8GB 5700XT - $449.99 USD
Corsair RM 750W PSU - $119.99 USD
Noctua NH-F14 140mm Fan (x2) - $49.80 USD
Asus VG278Q 27" 1080p 144 Hz Monitor $239.00

Total Cost:
$1503.80 USD

The Asus VG278Q is the 144hz version of my monitor. I can vouch for it. It also has Freesync as requested.

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 3:37 AM

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Might be the same one

abstract kite Jan 17, 2020, 3:37 AM

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Asus ROG is 400 USD lmao

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 3:37 AM

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ASUS ROG can fuck off

remote horizon Jan 17, 2020, 3:38 AM

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Solid build

late sorrel Jan 17, 2020, 3:38 AM

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fuck rog

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 3:38 AM

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Btw, they're paying CAD prices. So that's probably not viable

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 3:38 AM

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Unless you want the “E-sports favorited” things

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I’m pretty sure it was USD

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 3:38 AM

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Its CAD, his part list was set to Canada

tight garden Jan 17, 2020, 3:39 AM

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Need 1 more GTFO-35

abstract kite Jan 17, 2020, 3:39 AM

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I can change it to canada

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 3:39 AM

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That’s an oof

abstract kite Jan 17, 2020, 3:39 AM

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@tight garden

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?t lfg

rugged notchBOT Jan 17, 2020, 3:39 AM

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Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania.

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vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 3:39 AM

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That's easily 2k in CAD I bet

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 3:39 AM

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Haha

abstract kite Jan 17, 2020, 3:40 AM

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Never mind pcpartpicker canada is blocked on my firewall LMAO

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 3:41 AM

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Holy shit, Noctua fans are 50 CAD phaWesker

abstract kite Jan 17, 2020, 3:41 AM

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What are Be Quiet! fans?

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Could change to those

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 3:42 AM

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If you're sticking to 140s, the pure wings are 25

abstract kite Jan 17, 2020, 3:43 AM

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140s are quieter for the amount of air they push compared to 120s

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 3:43 AM

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Yeah I got a couple for intake

abstract kite Jan 17, 2020, 3:43 AM

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If you can change the list into CAD, I'd appreciate it

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because apparently I cant do so 🙃

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 3:44 AM

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Place ca. before pcpartpicker

abstract kite Jan 17, 2020, 3:46 AM

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Finally got it to work

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disabled my firewall

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for a sec

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Okay!

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@rancid kindle This is the part list in CAD
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/VLTPK4

I changed the ram back to the initial ram proposed to lower the cost, and also change the monitor to an AOC. I've heard good things about it and it also has Freesync.

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We could try to change the GPU to something cheaper, but keep in mind that you would be losing performance.

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 3:49 AM

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At the very least a cheaper 5700XT would literally perform the same, probably within 2%

abstract kite Jan 17, 2020, 3:51 AM

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They're all within about $10 of each other :\

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 3:53 AM

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You take what you can get 40 bucks is 40 bucks phaWesker

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More like 55 once taxes come into play ConfusedUlf

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 3:56 AM

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https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/KQWfhg

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Canadian prices are wild

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Probably gonna be a small bottleneck on the GPU maybe?

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 3:57 AM

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Well you followed the suggestion pretty well phaSip The m.2 is sata though

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Uh it won't get getting 144fps in Pubg at least phaWesker

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Then again what can do that? PirateSimon

abstract kite Jan 17, 2020, 3:58 AM

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So I have two options now.
I changed the GPU from a 5700XT to a 5700. Mild performance loss, but nothing truly noticable at 1080P.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/R8gzk6

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 3:59 AM

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Isn’t 1660 Ti and 5700 similar in performance?

abstract kite Jan 17, 2020, 3:59 AM

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yea

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5700 is cheaper iirc

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 3:59 AM

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No the 5700 is faster for sure

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And it isn't cheaper no

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 3:59 AM

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1660 Ti I picked was 50$ cheaper

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Lol

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AMD or NVIDIA, which will it beee

abstract kite Jan 17, 2020, 4:00 AM

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5700 is faster by a slight margin

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 4:00 AM

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I mean, I hit the 1500$ budget pretty well

abstract kite Jan 17, 2020, 4:00 AM

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He's looking for PUBG and the 5700X give like 30 more frames for that

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 4:01 AM

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While including a monitor

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1.3K CAD for the PC, compared to yours

abstract kite Jan 17, 2020, 4:01 AM

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You hit it yea, but it could be a bit more optimized imo

rancid kindle Jan 17, 2020, 4:01 AM

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😮

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 4:01 AM

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Oh yeah you included monitor as well

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 4:02 AM

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Its like 15% faster, 1660ti is a gimped 1070 while the 5700 is a more efficient Vega 64 which is around 1080 performance. Then again with Pubg who knows phaWesker

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 4:02 AM

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Optimized more how?

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PUBG suggy

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 4:02 AM

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Would probably prefer Nvidia

abstract kite Jan 17, 2020, 4:02 AM

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https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Nx3HRk

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 4:02 AM

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NVIDIA could do PUBG better I think

rancid kindle Jan 17, 2020, 4:04 AM

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ah yes I am Canadian so CDN $ it is

abstract kite Jan 17, 2020, 4:04 AM

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Looking at specs...

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 4:04 AM

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Maybe the 2060 KO

abstract kite Jan 17, 2020, 4:04 AM

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5700 is better at PUBG than its similarly priced competitor: The 1660ti

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 4:04 AM

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2060 might do, but I think it’s more expensive

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 4:05 AM

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But its similarly priced to the 2060

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I mean maybe there's price overlap

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Cause cooler prices get wild

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 4:05 AM

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Oh yeah

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Those fans are wack prices

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CPU coolers are stupid prices too

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2070 Super is 800$

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Like damn lol

abstract kite Jan 17, 2020, 4:06 AM

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2060 Super is 600

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The card I have in there is 450

tight garden Jan 17, 2020, 4:06 AM

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How much would a USED i7-4790K be worth?

rancid kindle Jan 17, 2020, 4:06 AM

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ok so, which cart are we thinking is best?

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 4:06 AM

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Good lord

abstract kite Jan 17, 2020, 4:06 AM

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I would suggest this one Rice:
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Nx3HRk

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 4:06 AM

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Why are Nvidia prices so high in Canada phaWesker

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 4:07 AM

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NVIDIA NoVideo

tight garden Jan 17, 2020, 4:07 AM

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Why are prices so high in Australia, fuckin every American every OMG, how will I afford this GPU for 0.50c, it's so overpriced

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 4:07 AM

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I understand, I heard the prices were bad from Hardware Unboxed

abstract kite Jan 17, 2020, 4:08 AM

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Yea it's rough...

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 4:08 AM

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Im just surprised the prices are wack as fuck okay?

tight garden Jan 17, 2020, 4:08 AM

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Watching Youtube and Linus and shit are building PC's for like $1000-$1400, priced around $2800 in Australia

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 4:08 AM

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Last I’ve heard of Canadian pricing was like half a year of 2 years ago

rancid kindle Jan 17, 2020, 4:08 AM

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ok so, in CDN that cart would be close to 2k?

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 4:09 AM

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No it’s in your region’s pricing, so to fit better for you

abstract kite Jan 17, 2020, 4:09 AM

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@rancid kindle We switched to using the canadian currency in the part list

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so you would be able to order those straight from the vendors

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This is what we have so far: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Nx3HRk

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 4:09 AM

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If you don’t mind 2000$ CAD, uhhh

rancid kindle Jan 17, 2020, 4:09 AM

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aye ❤️

tight garden Jan 17, 2020, 4:11 AM

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Pretty sure pricing is based upon hourly wage, regardless of when the Aus $ was $1.17US now it's like 0.67cUS nothing really changes that much, getting screwed back then, still getting screwed now.

rancid kindle Jan 17, 2020, 4:12 AM

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i wouldnt change anything from this really tbh
but
put the 3600 back
r7 isnt meant for gaming
or put a 2600 if he wants to spend less
3600 has a good performance gain fro mthe 2600
he wont use all the cores from the r7 for sure

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is what my computer friend says ^^^^^^^^^

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 4:13 AM

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3600 is more expensive though

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Unless that’s not the case for you? Maybe it’s selling for a better price than what I see

rancid kindle Jan 17, 2020, 4:13 AM

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i have no idea lmao

tight garden Jan 17, 2020, 4:13 AM

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What are the extra fans for

abstract kite Jan 17, 2020, 4:14 AM

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I personally agree with your friend, but the 2700 is perfectly fine for gaming tbh. It doesnt matter which.

Here is the list with the 3600
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/sxzkjp

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 4:14 AM

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Better fan than stock fans

rancid kindle Jan 17, 2020, 4:14 AM

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im getting a bunch of people with brains way bigger than mine helping me rn (yes this includes all of you)

abstract kite Jan 17, 2020, 4:14 AM

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Extra fans are for intakes

rancid kindle Jan 17, 2020, 4:14 AM

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aight ima take your side her

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here

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seems beaut

tight garden Jan 17, 2020, 4:14 AM

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"better than stock fans"

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 4:14 AM

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That’s not too bad a pricing actually

tight garden Jan 17, 2020, 4:14 AM

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The difference generally is not worth it even if they are $10

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 4:15 AM

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Depends on what fans

tight garden Jan 17, 2020, 4:15 AM

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eeeeeeeh, the stock fans would have to be pretty shit

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It's like something youtubers will wank on about, my fan, not in my PC, is currently lounder than my actual PC

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The crickets outside my window, make more noise than my PC

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 4:16 AM

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Hah

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I’m cursed with this noisy ass stock fan I have lol

abstract kite Jan 17, 2020, 4:16 AM

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@rancid kindle I should restate

If you can afford the 3600, go for that one. It does perform better, but the 2700 should be perfectly sufficient.

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 4:16 AM

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Carbide Spec-03

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It’s not very loud, but definitely can hear it

tight garden Jan 17, 2020, 4:17 AM

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These guys standing in absolutely dead silent rooms with like some decibel measuring tool going, "yeah man, spend $50 on new fans because they are slightly quieter"

rancid kindle Jan 17, 2020, 4:17 AM

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ye 2700 sounds fine. i dont expect him to be hacking into the pentagon or anything prob just playing halo and GTFO

tight garden Jan 17, 2020, 4:18 AM

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man that 2600 is cheap as fuck

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in CAD

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 4:18 AM

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Yeah

tight garden Jan 17, 2020, 4:18 AM

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$375 dollarydoos here

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 4:18 AM

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How expensive is the 50 USD CPU?

tight garden Jan 17, 2020, 4:19 AM

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Athlon 3000G is $79

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 4:19 AM

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Well that’s not too bad

tight garden Jan 17, 2020, 4:20 AM

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No one will ever buy that

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I'm not even sure why it exists

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I think your build is good, but I'd use the stock fans, see if it's like "omg these stock fans are so shit, it's like a jet engine"

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If they are shit, then yeah, buy the better ones

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 4:22 AM

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It exists to be a god damn good crappy CPU so companies can use it and slap it on any office PC and be like “Hey look! We got new computer with new cpu for 250$!” Or some price like that

rancid kindle Jan 17, 2020, 4:22 AM

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Ok he says sure lets do the 3600 he can afford it

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the compatibility issue isn't a problem right?

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 4:25 AM

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If it’s a MAX motherboard, you’re pretty good

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They already have it updated to support 3000 series

rancid kindle Jan 17, 2020, 4:25 AM

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👌

abstract kite Jan 17, 2020, 4:27 AM

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@rancid kindle Here's the list with the 3600
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/sxzkjp

A solid build if I do say so myself 😛

rancid kindle Jan 17, 2020, 4:29 AM

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🙏

tight garden Jan 17, 2020, 4:36 AM

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My mate gave ma an i7-7800X, is this worth using. Getting ram and a cooler for it, or shoudl I just get a new rig, with an AMD 3700x?

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Also gave me the mobo for it

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 4:37 AM

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7800X? Never seen it, you mean 8700K?

tight garden Jan 17, 2020, 4:37 AM

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nope

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7800x

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https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-7800X-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-3700X/m304816vs4043

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 4:38 AM

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Uhh

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Has 6C/12T at least

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But I don’t think it’s really too good

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Maybe it might, so I’ll just see what the others say

tight garden Jan 17, 2020, 4:40 AM

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Yeah I kinda felt that, it's just sitting on my shelf, because I'd have to spend a few hundred, need a new case, cooler, and ram

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or I just go and get a entirely new rig

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 4:41 AM

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7700K doesn’t bottleneck my 2070 Super so I can say it might be a good CPU since it has 2 more cores

tight garden Jan 17, 2020, 4:42 AM

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I currently have an i5-4670k

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which does bottleneck in games

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 4:42 AM

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Again I’d just wait for the other’s response. I’ve never really heard of the 7800X until now

tight garden Jan 17, 2020, 4:44 AM

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Yeah, doensn't seem to be much info about it

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 4:44 AM

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What socket is that on?

tight garden Jan 17, 2020, 4:45 AM

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I wanna say 2066

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 4:45 AM

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Is that x299?

tight garden Jan 17, 2020, 4:46 AM

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LGA2066

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what is x299?

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 4:46 AM

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That's the chipset

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And yeah I just confirmed it

tight garden Jan 17, 2020, 4:46 AM

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https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/123589/intel-core-i7-7800x-x-series-processor-8-25m-cache-up-to-4-00-ghz.html

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 4:47 AM

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X299 are some pricey motherboards

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Its HEDT, no different from Threadripper prices there

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 4:47 AM

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It’s actually kind of similar to 7700K

tight garden Jan 17, 2020, 4:48 AM

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What does HEDT mean

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 4:48 AM

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High End Desktop

tight garden Jan 17, 2020, 4:48 AM

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Yeah

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so it's a wank CPU

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 4:48 AM

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Its what enthusiasts would typically get

tight garden Jan 17, 2020, 4:48 AM

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I might be good outside of games tbhough?

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 4:49 AM

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Yeah it’s good for games

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Not too good, but the 6C might help

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 4:49 AM

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Um, I mean compared to what's out now; no. But its alright probably

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If it wasn't on X299 with those pricey ass motherboards it might be worthwhile

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 4:50 AM

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It might just be a 7700K with 2 more cores tbh

tight garden Jan 17, 2020, 4:50 AM

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I have the motherboard

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I have the MOBO and CPU

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 4:50 AM

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Oh okay you just need RAM?

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I think its Quad Channel

tight garden Jan 17, 2020, 4:50 AM

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I need Ram, a Cooler for the CPU and a new case, as I've got Mini ITX anyway

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Yeah so, it says it's got 4 channels where as AMD is dual yeah?

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So

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I'm kinda of buying redundant ram

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 4:51 AM

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Nah

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 4:51 AM

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Because its HEDT its quad channel yeah

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 4:51 AM

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Dual channel is on many boards

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 4:51 AM

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AMD's threadripper is the same

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So you'll have to get 4 to benefit the most

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 4:52 AM

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Dual channel is the most common thing being brought up as Ryzen motherboards and regular intel boards like supporting 9700K

tight garden Jan 17, 2020, 4:53 AM

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How do I know what Cooler would work with this thing?

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 4:53 AM

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Depends on the CPU

tight garden Jan 17, 2020, 4:53 AM

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7800x

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 4:54 AM

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Actually it probably doesn’t depend? I know some coolers are meant for big ones like threadrippers

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 4:54 AM

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LGA 2066 was it?

tight garden Jan 17, 2020, 4:54 AM

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yep

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Can I just run air

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do I really need a closed loop water thing

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 4:55 AM

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Nah Air is fine

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 4:55 AM

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Nah

tight garden Jan 17, 2020, 4:55 AM

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seems way cheaper

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 4:55 AM

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But you said you're doing ITX

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 4:55 AM

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Air or water is only a choice on the user

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 4:55 AM

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So we have to consider case dimensions here

tight garden Jan 17, 2020, 4:55 AM

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Nah I'm going to buy a new case

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 4:56 AM

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Okay so is the motherboard ITX?

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 4:56 AM

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Oh yeah watercooled is best for small case builds

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Otherwise you’re facing the shittiest cooling you probably have seen with air

tight garden Jan 17, 2020, 4:56 AM

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https://www.pccasegear.com/products/43822/fractal-design-define-r6-usb-c-tg-case-gunmetal

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Was just thinking that size would be fine

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 4:57 AM

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Okay um

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Max cooler height is 185mm

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So literally anything would fit

tight garden Jan 17, 2020, 4:58 AM

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trying to work out what this mobo is

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It's AsRock

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Taichi

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That good?

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 5:00 AM

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Do you mind a massive air cooler?

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And yeah that's typically their higher end board

tight garden Jan 17, 2020, 5:00 AM

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Couldnt care less to be honest

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bang for buck

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 5:00 AM

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Well, High-ish

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What are you looking to spend?

tight garden Jan 17, 2020, 5:00 AM

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$100?

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lol

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$150Au

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in that range

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 5:01 AM

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Now one last question, do you mind brown and tan fans? phaWesker

tight garden Jan 17, 2020, 5:01 AM

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Fuck this board aint bad to be fair

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 5:01 AM

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Brown and tan

tight garden Jan 17, 2020, 5:01 AM

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It's more than I'd spend on a mobo

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 5:01 AM

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Best color ever

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 5:02 AM

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So there's this guy

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https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/4vzv6h/noctua-cpu-cooler-nhd15

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And this one https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/F3gzK8/be-quiet-dark-rock-pro-4-505-cfm-cpu-cooler-bk022

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 5:03 AM

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Two best air coolers

tight garden Jan 17, 2020, 5:03 AM

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I have a noctua cooler in my PC which is for the i5-4670k, I wonder if that cooler fits?

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 5:03 AM

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It might

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Do you know the model?

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 5:03 AM

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Could you see which cooler it is?

tight garden Jan 17, 2020, 5:03 AM

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I wanna say D14?

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 5:03 AM

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It should have some name on it I think

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 5:04 AM

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I think so, I saw it with the compatibility filter on pcpartpicker

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 5:04 AM

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Like a serial number maybe

tight garden Jan 17, 2020, 5:04 AM

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https://noctua.at/en/nh-d14/specification

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This looks right

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no idea thought to be honest

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I'll pull it open later

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thing is though

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I'd need to replace that old fan so

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yeah

rancid kindle Jan 17, 2020, 5:04 AM

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https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/zHPKcq

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 5:04 AM

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That’s some thicc cooler

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 5:04 AM

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Yeah 2066 is on there

tight garden Jan 17, 2020, 5:05 AM

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it works really wel

rancid kindle Jan 17, 2020, 5:05 AM

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Thats the list his friends sent back

tight garden Jan 17, 2020, 5:05 AM

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heaps quiet, nothing really ever gets over 65C

abstract kite Jan 17, 2020, 5:05 AM

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NO

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By all means

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NO

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 5:05 AM

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w0t

abstract kite Jan 17, 2020, 5:05 AM

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2666mhz wtf

rancid kindle Jan 17, 2020, 5:05 AM

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Lmao

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 5:05 AM

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Oh yeah fuck that shit

abstract kite Jan 17, 2020, 5:05 AM

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Ryzen eats ram for breakfast

tight garden Jan 17, 2020, 5:05 AM

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Doesnt Ryzen have to be 3600?

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 5:05 AM

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Go for 3200-3600

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 5:05 AM

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That's for Zen 2

abstract kite Jan 17, 2020, 5:05 AM

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You don't want less than 3200mhz

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 5:05 AM

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Zen+ starts at 2933

tight garden Jan 17, 2020, 5:06 AM

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Okay so

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 5:06 AM

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Still ram eater

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 5:06 AM

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Any lower and you're kinda shafting yourself

tight garden Jan 17, 2020, 5:06 AM

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What Ram do I get for this X299 board?

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 5:06 AM

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Um fast ram shouldn't matter as much, just be sure to get quad channel

abstract kite Jan 17, 2020, 5:06 AM

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You want four channel at least

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I'd say 4 x 8

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 5:06 AM

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You want to get like 2400Mhz at least

abstract kite Jan 17, 2020, 5:06 AM

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^

rancid kindle Jan 17, 2020, 5:07 AM

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Ye so just stick to what you sent

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 5:07 AM

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Intel doesn’t eat ram as much as fatty ryzen does

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 5:07 AM

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By all means it does improve performance so if you can get fast ram at a good price go for it

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 5:07 AM

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Ye

maiden fiber Jan 17, 2020, 5:07 AM

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wait whats wrong with ryzen?

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 5:07 AM

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Oh yeah

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Ryzen is fine

tight garden Jan 17, 2020, 5:07 AM

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Ryzen is fine

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 5:07 AM

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RAM picked out was a 2666MHz

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 5:07 AM

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Nothing, it just needs really good RAM phaWesker

tight garden Jan 17, 2020, 5:07 AM

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but my mate just dumped a fairly decent i7 and mobo on me

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and it's thrown my whole build up in the air

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 5:08 AM

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First thing though

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 5:08 AM

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You bought it off him?

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 5:08 AM

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What if it’s a dead part?

maiden fiber Jan 17, 2020, 5:08 AM

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sounds like an awesome mate

rancid kindle Jan 17, 2020, 5:08 AM

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The monitor he has atm is a BenQ

tight garden Jan 17, 2020, 5:08 AM

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No he's not poor, put it that way

rancid kindle Jan 17, 2020, 5:08 AM

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Idk if you need more details

maiden fiber Jan 17, 2020, 5:08 AM

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benQ?

tight garden Jan 17, 2020, 5:08 AM

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I'm already using the 1060 he gave me works fine

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 5:08 AM

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BenQ Company

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 5:09 AM

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I see

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 5:09 AM

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1060 is coolio

maiden fiber Jan 17, 2020, 5:09 AM

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dont know really what it is

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 5:09 AM

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Good stuff then, free cpu and mobo. Can't complain

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 5:09 AM

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Not the best anymore, but great for games like CSGO, Siege, not too demanding games

tight garden Jan 17, 2020, 5:10 AM

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Do I need more power for this CPU and shit though?

maiden fiber Jan 17, 2020, 5:10 AM

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i recently spent a buttload on my pc

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 5:10 AM

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It was never the best really though

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Uh possibly, what kind of psu do you have?

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 5:10 AM

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It was good budget I guess?

tight garden Jan 17, 2020, 5:10 AM

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Wow it's like double the TDP of my i5

maiden fiber Jan 17, 2020, 5:10 AM

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yeah a sizable budget

tight garden Jan 17, 2020, 5:10 AM

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Would a 650W PSU power an i7-7800X and a 1060?

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 5:10 AM

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RX 480 had that spot ever since it came out before it

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 5:10 AM

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100W or 666W CPU

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And I was saying if 1060 was an ok budget card

maiden fiber Jan 17, 2020, 5:11 AM

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yeah

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 5:11 AM

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Uh... shit I have no idea what kind of power draw the 7800x has

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 5:11 AM

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Last I checked, it sold for 300$ but used go for 170$

tight garden Jan 17, 2020, 5:11 AM

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140W apparently

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 5:11 AM

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Wild fucking thing

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 5:12 AM

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140w tdp, but that's not power draw just the kind of cooler level you would need at least

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Though as it turns out, the full power draw is 146, so yeah pretty close to its TDP as it turns out

tight garden Jan 17, 2020, 5:13 AM

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So

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with a 1060

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 5:13 AM

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That's likely a prime95 load though

tight garden Jan 17, 2020, 5:13 AM

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3 drives

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What kind of PSU?

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I was thinking of going up to 750W regardless

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 5:13 AM

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650-750

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 5:13 AM

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Use pcpartpicker to plug in everything you have

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 5:14 AM

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Yeah do that

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 5:14 AM

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They give you a watt estimate

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 5:14 AM

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More likely you’ll just need 750W PSU

vapid crypt Jan 17, 2020, 5:14 AM

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Take that watt estimate and multiply it by 1.5

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Round to the nearest at that point

fleet canopy Jan 17, 2020, 5:14 AM

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Hm

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I just stick to 300W more than what PCPP says lol

tight garden Jan 17, 2020, 5:15 AM

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What in the fuck $1600 for this CPU on amazon?

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lmao