#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk | GTFO | Page 55

vapid crypt Jan 12, 2020, 5:17 AM

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Oh right it supports pci e gen 4

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 5:17 AM

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So you don't lose much lanes for your GPU and whatnot

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yeah

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That's like a really great bonus for getting X570

vapid crypt Jan 12, 2020, 5:17 AM

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GEN 4 SSDS

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Speaking of mobos, there's this guy... dunno its vrm quality though https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gwPgXL/msi-mpg-x570-gaming-edge-wifi-atx-am4-motherboard-mpg-x570-gaming-edge-wifi

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 5:19 AM

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Doesn't Gigabyte have a board that's pretty damn good? I know Gigabyte is the scum of the universe

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But I mean, it sounded good from what I heard

vapid crypt Jan 12, 2020, 5:19 AM

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Uh its not fair to call em the scum of the universe

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Ethically that's Bethesda, Intel and Nvidia combined phaWesker

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 5:20 AM

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Haha

median moon Jan 12, 2020, 5:20 AM

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hey dont forget amazon man

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 5:20 AM

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But NVIDIA has the 2080 Ti, so there's that

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Amazon?

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Amazon is ok

median moon Jan 12, 2020, 5:20 AM

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wanna go work in one of their warehouses

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 5:21 AM

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Got all deliveries without problem-

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What

dusty pumice Jan 12, 2020, 5:21 AM

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Until you work for em lmfao

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 5:21 AM

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Haha

vapid crypt Jan 12, 2020, 5:21 AM

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GET IN THE POD

median moon Jan 12, 2020, 5:21 AM

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take a second and look up their work conditions

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kek

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 5:21 AM

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Ok

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I take it back

vapid crypt Jan 12, 2020, 5:21 AM

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They got prime one day shipping though

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 5:21 AM

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That's horrible

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Yeah

vapid crypt Jan 12, 2020, 5:21 AM

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So I can't be upset PirateSimon

dusty pumice Jan 12, 2020, 5:21 AM

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Good thing is mayo is stil young so sees the world through pink glasses

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 5:21 AM

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Having prime gets me 1-2 days delivery

median moon Jan 12, 2020, 5:21 AM

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wtf, i want some pink glasses

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give

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 5:22 AM

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Pink glasses? I already see enough horrible things

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Well I see them more than I should

dusty pumice Jan 12, 2020, 5:22 AM

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U can have my pink hello kitty mouse instead

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 5:22 AM

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But do I care? I do not

median moon Jan 12, 2020, 5:27 AM

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🔸

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 5:28 AM

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GWchinaSakuraThinking

median moon Jan 12, 2020, 5:30 AM

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sakura

late hollow Jan 12, 2020, 6:54 AM

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Yeah,plus Amazon has people on Twitter accounts to lie to others when they say something bad about the company

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 8:41 AM

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Bad pic but this is what we got rn @fleet canopy

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fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 8:42 AM

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A bit blurry but eh

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That's pretty nice

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 8:44 AM

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So far I’ve got it at max 75C on AIDA64.
PBO Enabled/Boost Override +200mhz
Voltage offset -0.0875
XMP C16 3600mhz
Global C-States Control Enabled

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I’m getting high 4400s, low 4500 in Cinebench R20 which makes me think the undervolt is too low

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Going to try it tomorrow without the undervolt to see what happens. Stock settings cause the chip to hit near 80C in AIDA64, so we’ll see how it fairs with no undervolt + other BIOS changes.

dusty pumice Jan 12, 2020, 8:59 AM

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Oh shit bearz is alive

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 9:00 AM

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Barely

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I still need to reinstall windows

dusty pumice Jan 12, 2020, 9:00 AM

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same here boss lmfao

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 9:00 AM

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its still wack

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BUT

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 9:00 AM

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Wack

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 9:00 AM

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I’m nearly done with the BIOS

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 9:01 AM

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Nice

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 9:01 AM

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Gonna order those new fans since I dont like hearing a bloody SR-71 Blackbird fire up it’s turbines next to me

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But after that I’m solid

dusty pumice Jan 12, 2020, 9:04 AM

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Noctuas ayy?

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 9:04 AM

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Aye

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50 more moolahs

dusty pumice Jan 12, 2020, 9:04 AM

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Stil planning on the other case

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or u good now?

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lmfao

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 9:04 AM

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Nah. It wouldnt fit where I thought it would

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 9:05 AM

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Yikes

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 9:05 AM

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This one looks great on the left

dusty pumice Jan 12, 2020, 9:05 AM

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yeah you have it in the spot

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u wanted the NZXT too right?

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im just too tired u always catch me early in the morning when we start talking lmfao

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 9:06 AM

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Yea the H510, but it’s too long to fit in there.

Haha no worries man

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Thinking about moving my PS4 somewhere else or just get it off the desk completely

dusty pumice Jan 12, 2020, 9:07 AM

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Maybe you can mount it under the desk

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with like some steel cage construction

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 9:08 AM

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That reminds me, I still need that controller for PS3 re

dusty pumice Jan 12, 2020, 9:08 AM

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but that usually takes screwing it down onto the desk

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and idk if thats worth it

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 9:08 AM

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I might be getting an IC-7300 soon I’m going to need room for it, the PSU, and the tuner.

I’ll look into the cage. Can’t say whether its a good idea or not

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You can ignore the first part of the message

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I’m so tired I forgot that’s not exactly PC tech lol

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 9:10 AM

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Haha

dusty pumice Jan 12, 2020, 9:10 AM

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Im looking into getting a surroundsound thing aswell

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 9:11 AM

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I mean, I can go into the spiel if you want

dusty pumice Jan 12, 2020, 9:11 AM

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Kinda finnished with spending money on PC tech this year lmfao

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 9:11 AM

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Same lol

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 9:11 AM

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Hm, a whole year

dusty pumice Jan 12, 2020, 9:11 AM

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i have a certain budget set away and im sticking with that

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only for pc stuff

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 9:11 AM

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I doubt that lol

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 9:11 AM

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I’ll buy Ampere around this holiday season if I’m not needing it earlier

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 9:11 AM

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There's always gonna be something new in the market haha

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 9:11 AM

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I gotta recoup moneys

dusty pumice Jan 12, 2020, 9:12 AM

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I got a pretty big spending limit for this year

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i doubt i will even reach it

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 9:12 AM

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Just get the 130K USD UPS and you're more likely already way past it! GWsiraMeguThumbsUp

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 9:12 AM

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lol

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 9:13 AM

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I mean

dusty pumice Jan 12, 2020, 9:13 AM

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Lmfao

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 9:13 AM

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240K USD

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What a joke piece of shit machine for its price

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This calls

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For me to fucking sleep again and think about my life decisions for staying up until 4 AM

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 9:14 AM

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Same

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But 3am for me

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I’m gonna bounce now fellas

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 9:15 AM

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Take care

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 9:15 AM

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Have a good one

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👋

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 9:15 AM

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GWnekomakiWaveBOYE

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Oh yeh

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I changed the mobo and the case, gonna reuse case since it seems good and will just reuse because design is great for having dark PC build. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2XwL7T @abstract kite

vapid crypt Jan 12, 2020, 1:26 PM

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Apparently the gaming edge and gaming pro carbon have poor vrms, they get fairly hot for the price point they're at phaSheva https://www.techspot.com/bestof/amd-x570-motherboards/

tall ore Jan 12, 2020, 2:23 PM

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Bois, it's happening.

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I'm gonna grab a new valve for my amp.

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https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Siemens-E88CC-6922-O-Getter-Gray-Shield-Made-in-Germany-Gold-Pin-Strong/114003868615?hash=item1a8b28fbc7:g:3oAAAOSwT9Nd6nGz

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Looking delicious.

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Gold pin O getter E88CC from probably a good while ago.

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 3:23 PM

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I mean, that's like the main thing about X570

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The VRM gets hot as hell

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Might as well see if I can find another board that's also good kek

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It's pretty wild we have to spend 700-1000$ for an Aorus Xtreme haha

median moon Jan 12, 2020, 5:22 PM

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🌞

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 5:23 PM

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Hello there

median moon Jan 12, 2020, 5:27 PM

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hullo

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 5:27 PM

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How have you been?

median moon Jan 12, 2020, 5:28 PM

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frustrated at INTEL >:(

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 5:28 PM

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Haha

vapid crypt Jan 12, 2020, 6:03 PM

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The intel drought will only continue in this year, but if you're still hopeful there's some info here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFIIUX1RWfg

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 6:15 PM

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Video won't start for shit >:(

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 6:36 PM

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Ok it are work

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Well

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What I can tell from is

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I guess TL;DR is if intel no go 10nm soon enough, Intel is fucked

vapid crypt Jan 12, 2020, 6:55 PM

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2021 is their estimate on the first 10nm desktop architecture, and like Tom said they will likely continue using 14nm for the low end; which makes sense in a way since the efficiency on that part of the market can probably be forgiven. I remember them saying they wanted to roll back pentiums to 22nm even so that's something phaWesker

tall ore Jan 12, 2020, 7:07 PM

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@fleet canopy Nah, Intel is gonna be just fine for a long while, they’ve got a lot of cash to throw around and are in a lot of different sections of the industry. Sure, they’ll be like old AMD for the foreseeable future, but in the enterprise space, especially integrated systems and SSDs, they’ll be fine.

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Intel isn’t gonna die any time soon, not unless AMD can also make good SSDs and the such, the chokehold they have isn’t all consuming.

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 7:08 PM

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I mean, sure but they're fucked if they wanna take back top spot

vapid crypt Jan 12, 2020, 7:09 PM

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Well, not any time soon; but sure

tall ore Jan 12, 2020, 7:09 PM

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They won’t try for now. They’ll double down in the gaming and enterprise spaces.

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It doesn’t make sense for them to try and fight that battle atm.

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 7:09 PM

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AMD might as well attack the gaming performance of CPUs as well

tall ore Jan 12, 2020, 7:09 PM

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They are, we know this atm, but monolithic designs will have an intrinsic benefit over scalable die designs.

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 7:09 PM

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From what I've heard of AMD and their CPUs, it seems like they want to dominate all aspects of CPUs

tall ore Jan 12, 2020, 7:13 PM

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You’re not wrong.

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 7:13 PM

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If it means gaming performance, then I'm all for that

tall ore Jan 12, 2020, 7:14 PM

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I own a server with a 3950X and 3600Mhz DDR4 and I can tell you from experience that it just rips through everything.

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Got 8 servers running from that CPU atm and under proper load it barely hits 15% usage.

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 7:14 PM

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Just so as long as they also keep the others good, like workstation and desktop good as well

tall ore Jan 12, 2020, 7:14 PM

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Minecraft servers actually bottleneck on RAM before they bottleneck on cycles with that insanity.

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 7:15 PM

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Dang

tall ore Jan 12, 2020, 7:15 PM

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Even putting 2 gigs into each server with a 64GB kit the RAM hits limits first.

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I did testing, the CPU just does not care, it doesn’t.

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 7:16 PM

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So you need a lot of RAM in order to run a few servers is what you're saying?

tall ore Jan 12, 2020, 7:16 PM

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No no.

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It’s just that you can run that many servers that you’d really need 128 gig of RAM to even put the CPU to 80% load.

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 7:16 PM

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Ah

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So the more RAM, the more servers uses the CPU basically

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Because it uses so few of the CPU?

tall ore Jan 12, 2020, 7:18 PM

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Not even. It’s a 16 core CPU, each server can use 2 threads and will be lucky to use half a core in cycles when there’s active players, each server should have 4 gigs of RAM at all times minimum if I’m doing modpacks.

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And I’ve got crazy shit happening on a few servers. I have an auto mob farm that kills something like 40 thousand mobs an hour.

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Doesn’t do shit to the CPU.

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 7:19 PM

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Dang

vapid crypt Jan 12, 2020, 7:19 PM

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Servers for days phaSip

tall ore Jan 12, 2020, 7:19 PM

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Uhuh.

dusk delta Jan 12, 2020, 7:34 PM

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So I have this kind of monitor that is about 7 years old now. https://hothardware.com/reviews/asus-vg236-120hz-lcd-monitor-review
I'm thinking of an upgrade and wondering what kind of monitor would be nice to use in conjunction with a laptop w/ i7-9750H CPU and a RTX 2060 GPU. Mainly looking for a good 1080p or 1440p monitor.

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 7:35 PM

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2060 can't really do 1440p too well above 60FPS maybe

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I prefer going with 1080p 144hz still tbh

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You already have a good enough monitor so no need for a change

vapid crypt Jan 12, 2020, 7:39 PM

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Seems Asus still makes the same line of monitors, just upgraded

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B2HH7G0?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 7:39 PM

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Unless there's something with 7 years and now that's different

vapid crypt Jan 12, 2020, 7:39 PM

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And in 7 years, TN panels have improved significantly

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 7:40 PM

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Yeah

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Just get a recent TN 1920x1080p 144hz

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You can pick one up for 150$

vapid crypt Jan 12, 2020, 7:41 PM

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And stay at like 24" I think, the pixel density is just gonna be better than 27

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 7:42 PM

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I always pick 24" or lower for 16:9 1080p, and 27" below for 16:9 1440p

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There's https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Br8j4D/acer-kg241-pbmidpx-240-1920x1080-144-hz-monitor-umfx1aap01

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150$ on sale, is 200$ original price

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Yzzkcf/lg-24gl600f-b-236-1920x1080-144-hz-monitor-24gl600f-b

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23.6", 144hz, 1ms, TN

vapid crypt Jan 12, 2020, 7:43 PM

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That's a refurbished monitor, the Acer KG1 on Amazon

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 7:44 PM

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I've also wanted a hand on this too https://pcpartpicker.com/product/LXMwrH/acer-xfa240-bmjdpr-240-1920x1080-144hz-monitor-xfa240-bmjdpr

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Kind of an ugly stand, lol

vapid crypt Jan 12, 2020, 7:45 PM

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Not really, maybe the side profile isn't flattering. Nice to have height adjustment at least

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Mine don't have that phaWesker

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 7:46 PM

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lol

dusk delta Jan 12, 2020, 8:02 PM

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Thanks for the samples. I just figured that after 7 years, even if the monitor has the same resolution but has 120 hz instead of 144 hz, I thought performance would still be greater on a more recent monitor.

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I'm unsure, though. The one I have has an hdmi port, at least.

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 8:10 PM

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Display Port is the best to get imo, unless you need to carry sound

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Then there's HDMI 2.0, can handle higher resolutions while still being able to carry sound

late sorrel Jan 12, 2020, 8:14 PM

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can't wait for DP 2.0

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88GB per second speeds

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vs current dp at 43GBPS

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and hdmi at 41GB

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ish

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 8:15 PM

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If you have a headphone, no need to go with HDMI

merry bay Jan 12, 2020, 8:15 PM

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Bigger numbers are cool and all, but lets be real, no one here is aching for 4K at a faster refresh rate yet Jebaited

late sorrel Jan 12, 2020, 8:16 PM

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yea we are

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 8:16 PM

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Not until we can actually do 4K at 120Hz or so without performance problems, we aren't lol

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If for competitive, that's uhh

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That'd be ok?

merry bay Jan 12, 2020, 8:17 PM

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No doubt it would be nice to have, but it's a long way away from being consumer ready. 4K adds so much input delay already, even when above 60fps

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The benefit gets lost in there just because of hardware not keeping up

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 8:20 PM

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You need to invest in enough for a really good GPU to be able to reach 4K 120Hz

vapid crypt Jan 12, 2020, 8:38 PM

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@dusk delta Monitor panels, especially the typical TN kind have improved a lot in 7 years. Generally better viewing angles and color accuracy.

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You will likely not see any difference between 120hz and 144hz, and even then I think the G-sync/Freesync compatibility that is really common now limits the range to 120hz; though screen tearing likely isn't a concern at high refresh rates. I think its more of a concern if you're playing a game that's locked in framerate

torn anvil Jan 12, 2020, 8:43 PM

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YOP TENGO UN I5 7400 3.0HZ 16 GB RAM A 3000MHZ rx 570 4 gb

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 9:25 PM

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@lusty knoll What do you mean for the specs?

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Do you mean will it run GTFO?

lusty knoll Jan 12, 2020, 9:27 PM

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streamer pc ?

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 9:27 PM

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Oh

silk lodge Jan 12, 2020, 9:27 PM

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ryzen 3600x is a strong cpu for streaming

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 9:27 PM

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Can you give your full spec list?

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I mean, it is a good CPU

silk lodge Jan 12, 2020, 9:28 PM

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GTFO is really gpu heavy so

lusty knoll Jan 12, 2020, 9:28 PM

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sapphire rx590 nitro +se ?

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 9:28 PM

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I wouldn't say really GPU heavy

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Yes, your PC can be streamed with @lusty knoll

late sorrel Jan 12, 2020, 9:28 PM

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yea you can stream with that

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for sure

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I have done it with worse

silk lodge Jan 12, 2020, 9:28 PM

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maybe its because I'm running at max settings

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and yeah I've streamed on worse rigs

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 9:28 PM

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People can play GTFO with a RX 570 pretty well

late sorrel Jan 12, 2020, 9:29 PM

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^ I have, and do

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 9:30 PM

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https://www.techspot.com/news/83504-rtx-2060-ko-first-response-amd-rx-5600.html

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Having a 2060 KO as a response to 5600 XT

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kek

lusty knoll Jan 12, 2020, 9:32 PM

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Turkey rtx2080ti 2300 usd

merry bay Jan 12, 2020, 9:43 PM

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Probably cheaper to fly out yourself, get it locally, fly back and cough up the import fee.

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still too expensive, but cheaper

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 9:43 PM

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Indeed, haha

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You also get the fun in exploring another country

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So that's a bonus lol

vapid crypt Jan 12, 2020, 9:47 PM

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You can get a prebuilt with a 2080ti in it from microcenter for that amount ConfusedUlf Not saying its worth it, but that sucks that prices for individual parts can get pretty silly depending on where you live.

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 9:47 PM

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I mean, yeah

waxen orchid Jan 12, 2020, 9:51 PM

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it would be better if you could find somebody you trust in another country to buy it for you, then ship it

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 9:52 PM

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How much do 1920x1080p 240Hz at 1ms get priced at?

vapid crypt Jan 12, 2020, 9:52 PM

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No idea, but I doubt its worth it

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 9:52 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/nyMwrH/acer-xf250q-cbmiiprx-245-1920x1080-240-hz-monitor-xf250q-cbmiiprx

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250$

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Damn

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A shit ton of those

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Go for 300$+

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This is the only monitor going as low as 250$

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All being TN panels ofc

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The hell is with monitors having those thing on the side? Makes it look like a stingray haha

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/w3KhP6/benq-xl2546-245-1920x1080-240hz-monitor-xl2546

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 9:57 PM

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What’s a good Laptop or PC that can handle UE4 games?

vapid crypt Jan 12, 2020, 9:57 PM

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At what resolution and framerate?

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 9:58 PM

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Ehehehe

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It has gsync support for the 250$ one

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This is gonna be real good

merry bay Jan 12, 2020, 9:58 PM

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The only good thing about those BenQ flaps is how recognizable the monitor is

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 9:59 PM

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Haha

vapid crypt Jan 12, 2020, 9:59 PM

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Its "G-sync compatible" AKA its Freesync phaWesker

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 9:59 PM

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I just wanted to know so I can start making games

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 9:59 PM

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I have an NVIDIA GPU so it makes sense calling it Gsync compact

vapid crypt Jan 12, 2020, 9:59 PM

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Oh you're looking to develop in UE4?

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 9:59 PM

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Pretty sure you can find a lot of monitors without the support

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To make games, hm

vapid crypt Jan 12, 2020, 10:00 PM

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Literally Nvidia cards now support Freesync

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It doesn't need to say G-sync compatible for it to work

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 10:00 PM

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All Freesync?

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GWmythicalThonkCool

vapid crypt Jan 12, 2020, 10:00 PM

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Yeah, G-sync compatible is just marketing

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 10:01 PM

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Yeah I am @vapid crypt

vapid crypt Jan 12, 2020, 10:01 PM

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It sells to the people that are using nvidia cards

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What's your budget then?

late sorrel Jan 12, 2020, 10:01 PM

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fuck nvidia

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 10:01 PM

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:(

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 10:01 PM

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Any good laptops?

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 10:01 PM

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It's not like I won't get a 2080 Ti or higher performance depending on whether it's AyyMD or NoVideo

merry bay Jan 12, 2020, 10:01 PM

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G-Sync compatible is like a confirmation badge. The monitors without it just weren't tested so no guarantee about even partial functionality.

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 10:02 PM

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Right now I’m broke but I’m trying to save up

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 10:02 PM

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Well it has the compact tag, so I'm good off for using the monitor lol

vapid crypt Jan 12, 2020, 10:02 PM

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There are plenty coming out within the next couple months with the new Ryzen 4000 mobile chips

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But do you have any budget in mind?

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 10:02 PM

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For 1000$, you can get good parts on sale

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 10:03 PM

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Close like 200 or 100 because I don’t have a job yet

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 10:03 PM

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100-200$?

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That's pretty low, yikes

late sorrel Jan 12, 2020, 10:03 PM

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oof

vapid crypt Jan 12, 2020, 10:03 PM

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Was that a typo?

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 10:03 PM

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I hope so lol

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 10:03 PM

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Uh no I’m poor as hell

late sorrel Jan 12, 2020, 10:03 PM

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o7

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 10:03 PM

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Yikes

vapid crypt Jan 12, 2020, 10:04 PM

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Hmm, I don't really see game development in that budget working; well not with Unreal 4 anyway

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 10:04 PM

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Let's see,

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I now have to...

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Pay 2000$ for all I even need

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Help me

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Only thing that's lower than 100$ are the fans and the RAM

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Might as well save up for it lol

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 10:05 PM

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So I’m guessing that’s out my range to even game develop, well this is a huge waste of time

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 10:06 PM

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Mm, can't you just save for more?

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Plus not everyone needs a 1000$ PC to make games

vapid crypt Jan 12, 2020, 10:06 PM

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Well certainly for Unreal 4 development, what do you have currently?

late sorrel Jan 12, 2020, 10:06 PM

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tbh you can do game development at closer to like, 500 or 600

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 10:06 PM

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Nothing

merry bay Jan 12, 2020, 10:07 PM

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Even running UE4 titles above 30fps would be a challenge in that range. With that budget your best bet is used hardware. But that can be a lottery too.

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 10:07 PM

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Used and on sale

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 10:07 PM

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I don’t even have a laptop or a PC

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 10:07 PM

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Perfect combo lol

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 10:08 PM

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I don’t have anything ;-;

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 10:08 PM

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Anyone can get a PC, it just takes some time and dedication :)

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You could go on PC Part Picker and see some stories where some dude was too poor to afford shit, so having a job and saving up money over time, they got what they wanted

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 10:10 PM

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Well that’s the problem I don’t have one

vapid crypt Jan 12, 2020, 10:10 PM

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I was running the most jank ass HP laptop for years, I got a decent pc back in the summer. Couldn't really say how much I spent total as I added more fans, even changed the case and motherboard... but that's a different story. It was like around 850 initially; but prices have gone down since tbh

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 10:11 PM

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;-;

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Maybe Unity or Godot or whatever it’s called

vapid crypt Jan 12, 2020, 10:17 PM

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Unity is the engine that GTFO is made on

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 10:18 PM

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Ik

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I’m going to look up some monitors or laptops

vapid crypt Jan 12, 2020, 10:24 PM

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Best you could do is browse ebay for a good used deal, good luck

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 10:25 PM

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Or

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https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/

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Always gonna be new PC sales, and deals to find

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 10:26 PM

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That price tho

vapid crypt Jan 12, 2020, 10:26 PM

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Oh I don't go to Reddit cause I find the overall community to be rather... unsavory

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That's a fantastic monitor, 1080p 75hz IPS

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 10:27 PM

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Not reddit in general

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 10:27 PM

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That price

vapid crypt Jan 12, 2020, 10:27 PM

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I think it uses the same panel as the monitors I have, but the ones I have are in a slightly higher sku

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 10:27 PM

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The subreddit though is good

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You can just ignore the whole reddit thing and just take a look through for deals

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Typing is an irritating fucking thing rn lmao

merry bay Jan 12, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Are you using a library keyboard for it to be irritating?

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Mechanical G710

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 10:30 PM

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Do you think that monitor will run UE4

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 10:30 PM

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It's not so much irritating if music is on though

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It's not if the monitor runs @abstract kite

vapid crypt Jan 12, 2020, 10:30 PM

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Well its a monitor, it needs a computer with it

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 10:30 PM

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Any monitor can do

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Just need a computer

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Anyways

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 10:30 PM

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Ok

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 10:31 PM

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With a quick look through reddit

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I found this https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824737002?Item=N82E16824737002&utm_medium=Email&utm_source=IGNEFL010920&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL010920-_-EMC-010920-Index-_-GamingMonitors-_-24737002-S4A1C

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No idea for the link

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But it's 2560x1440p 144hz with 1ms

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You don't see many of those at 250$

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 10:35 PM

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What about Alienware laptops

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 10:35 PM

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From what I've heard from some here

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It's sort of meh

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How much are you willing to afford?

merry bay Jan 12, 2020, 10:37 PM

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Alienware is overpriced and the quality doesn't match. Not for tight budgets for sure

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 10:38 PM

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Oof no but I was just wondering about Alienware

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 10:38 PM

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Every single one of those laptops is like

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"Let's throw in a i9-9750H!!!!!"

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I'm try find 8-16GB RAM, 1TB for shit,

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But thing hates AMD

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So I change a bit of it

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See more laptops

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 10:39 PM

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What about Acer?

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 10:40 PM

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Still a fucking 8750H or 9750H CPU goddamnit

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Acer is good I think

merry bay Jan 12, 2020, 10:41 PM

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Imo right now is one of the worst times to buy a laptop.

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Drastic changes to the market are coming fairly soon with Ryzen 4000's

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should shake up the prices a lot

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 10:42 PM

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?

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 10:42 PM

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Yeah just wiat

vapid crypt Jan 12, 2020, 10:42 PM

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New cpus for laptops coming out, basically new laptops

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 10:42 PM

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AMD's new laptop CPUs are gonna be epic

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And it'll be much more powerful at a much more affordable price

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 10:43 PM

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How much are AMD?

vapid crypt Jan 12, 2020, 10:43 PM

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Stuff using the older amd cpus should come down in price as far as new stuff is concerned

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 10:43 PM

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The new CPUs haven't released yet I think

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I expect either late 2020 or early 2021

vapid crypt Jan 12, 2020, 10:44 PM

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I think HP is coming out with a 800 dollar one, dunno if its using one of the 6 or 8 cores though

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 10:44 PM

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Or mid 2020 tbh

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 10:44 PM

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It’s hopeless I can’t find anything

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 10:44 PM

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AMD is basically "Have this with the performance of a 9700K but for more cheaper!"

vapid crypt Jan 12, 2020, 10:44 PM

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And the new laptops are gonna start rolling out in February

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Stuff from Asus in the high end and what not

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 10:45 PM

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February is when my birthday is

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 10:45 PM

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Even their Ryzen 3000 CPU could beat most CPUs meant for usual office PCs and were much better

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You're old enough for a job, yeah?

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 10:46 PM

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I’m 20 going on to 21

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 10:46 PM

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Ah

vapid crypt Jan 12, 2020, 10:46 PM

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Broke college student?

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 10:46 PM

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I don’t have a driver’s license because the questions they ask for the permit test messes with my brain because I have a disability

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 10:46 PM

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You do have a job, yeah? It'd be a good time having one now plus you'll be able to make enough money to not need to worry much later on

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Ah

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 10:47 PM

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I don’t have a job

vapid crypt Jan 12, 2020, 10:47 PM

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I see phaSheva

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 10:47 PM

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I'm gonna go do something now, so I'll be off for a bit

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 10:48 PM

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Ok

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Does it matter what tower goes with monitor or no?

merry bay Jan 12, 2020, 10:54 PM

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what do you mean by tower

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 10:54 PM

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Like PC tower

merry bay Jan 12, 2020, 10:54 PM

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So the case?

vapid crypt Jan 12, 2020, 10:54 PM

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The computer, yes. The computer is what decides the performance

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 10:54 PM

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vapid crypt Jan 12, 2020, 10:54 PM

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The monitor is just a display

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 10:54 PM

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So can I hook up this monitor with that tower

vapid crypt Jan 12, 2020, 10:55 PM

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That is just a case, there is no computer in that. Its a chassis made to hold the computer components

merry bay Jan 12, 2020, 10:56 PM

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If you want to simplify it, it's just a shell

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 10:56 PM

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Goddamn it

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Well can I hook up an acer monitor with a dell tower or what?

late sorrel Jan 12, 2020, 11:00 PM

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yeah

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just needs to be an actual pc

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 11:01 PM

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So PC is a tower because I’m looking on amazon right now

merry bay Jan 12, 2020, 11:02 PM

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the different kinds of tower is just referring to the size of the case. Doesn't say much if there's an actual computer inside.

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So far you were looking at pretty expensive cases without any computer in it.

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 11:05 PM

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Is this a CPU?

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late sorrel Jan 12, 2020, 11:05 PM

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that's a whole pc

vapid crypt Jan 12, 2020, 11:05 PM

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That is a very cheap computer

late sorrel Jan 12, 2020, 11:05 PM

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and p sucky

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 11:05 PM

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So it’s bad?

vapid crypt Jan 12, 2020, 11:05 PM

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Best you're gonna do with that on its own is browse the internet and watch videos

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Maybe light indie games or something

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 11:06 PM

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My career is already over then

sick reef Jan 12, 2020, 11:07 PM

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New Blood Interactive is releasing great games that'd run on any PC most likely.

vapid crypt Jan 12, 2020, 11:07 PM

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He wants to develop games, and wants a very low budget pc to do so

sick reef Jan 12, 2020, 11:07 PM

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Hm.

late sorrel Jan 12, 2020, 11:08 PM

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get a 300 dollar laptop

sick reef Jan 12, 2020, 11:08 PM

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Maybe finding something cheap to do it on, then something to offload the compile onto.

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 11:08 PM

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Pfffft I don’t have a job or money for that

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I’m giving up fuck it

sick reef Jan 12, 2020, 11:11 PM

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Just estimate what you need better, and it won't be that huge of a problem.

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 11:11 PM

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Like

sick reef Jan 12, 2020, 11:13 PM

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Like knowing base-line requirements. Like knowing fundamentals. A lot of "Like" that sums up to what should be considered before buying something.

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If you can't make it concrete, then what are you really trying to do.

vapid crypt Jan 12, 2020, 11:14 PM

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Like you don't need much if you want to develop sprite based 2d games or something like that, but modern 3d game development takes quite a bit more for sure.

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 11:17 PM

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Welp I wanted to make 3D games but that gone out the window

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I’m jumping in this late, but to develop 3D games you’re looking at a good pinch of money.

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How much CPU would Godot engine take up?

late sorrel Jan 12, 2020, 11:19 PM

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no idea

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not touched it

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 11:19 PM

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Damn it

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Godot seems pretty CPU dependent from what I just looked up

vapid crypt Jan 12, 2020, 11:21 PM

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Would benefit from plenty of cores, but might not be necessary depending

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 11:21 PM

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True

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I cant say how it fairs with 3D vs 2D game rendering

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📎 image0.png

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Well

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I’d think you’d still want a good GPU

vapid crypt Jan 12, 2020, 11:22 PM

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Those are some old requirements

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 11:22 PM

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Yea.

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Really old.

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When was the article made?

late sorrel Jan 12, 2020, 11:23 PM

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hmm

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might see what that's like

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seems cool

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 11:23 PM

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📎 image0.png

vapid crypt Jan 12, 2020, 11:23 PM

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I'm guessing their minimum requirements at that

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 11:24 PM

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Yea it seems interesting.
For 3D rendering though, I’d think you’d want to use an engine like Unity or something. Never heard of Godot until I looked it up.

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Oh

late sorrel Jan 12, 2020, 11:24 PM

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me either

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seems cool thou

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more free than unity

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 11:24 PM

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Heh

vapid crypt Jan 12, 2020, 11:27 PM

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So as far as unity requirements are concerned this is what I could find

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Processor: Intel Core i7-3770 @ 3.4 GHz or AMDFX-8350 @ 4.0 GHz or better.
RAM: 8GB.
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 or AMDRadeon R9 290X (3 GB VRAM)

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Funny enough, not too far off what the devs of GTFO were probably using; albeit slightly newer hardware

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 11:29 PM

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Yea

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Do you think I could do it with a cheap PC

sick reef Jan 12, 2020, 11:30 PM

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Absolutely.

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 11:30 PM

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Ok but I heard it’s less user friendly tho

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But that’s what YouTube is for

vapid crypt Jan 12, 2020, 11:31 PM

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So the specifications I listed are years old now

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Like 2013 - 2014

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 11:31 PM

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Here’s 2019

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vapid crypt Jan 12, 2020, 11:32 PM

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So you could potentially find something like that used in okay condition from another person

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 11:32 PM

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Do you think that PC I showed you, could probably handle it?

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Do you want an honest opinion?

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I’m guessing no

sick reef Jan 12, 2020, 11:34 PM

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Its CPU is less than previously stated specs.

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 11:35 PM

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So no

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 11:40 PM

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Is there any way to quickly know what my monitor is?

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Like specific monitor

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 11:40 PM

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This would work great, but it’s out of your budget

AMD Ryzen 5 2600
MSI B450 Tomohawk Max Motherboard
G.Skill Ripjaws 8GB 3200mhz Memory
Seagate Barracude 2TB Hard Drive
Sapphire Radeon 5500XT 4GB GPU
Corsair CXM 550W PSU
Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid-tower Case

Price ~$700 USD

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Hqz2rV

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 11:40 PM

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2TB, hm

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 11:42 PM

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Ok I don’t know how to put a pc together

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Its simple as pie

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 11:43 PM

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You can easily learn how to with the help of youtube videos and from asking here

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 11:43 PM

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Adult legos basically

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Does it involve soldering

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 11:43 PM

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Anyone know how know my monitor name?

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 11:43 PM

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Nope

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 11:43 PM

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No soldering

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 11:43 PM

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It’s plug and play basically. Minor Windows installation required

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Ok but I don’t even have a pc though

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 11:44 PM

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Soldering would be more like modding your PC parts, but there is absolutely no need unless you're a PC geek who likes to mess around with parts

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 11:44 PM

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@fleet canopy Check Nvidia control panel

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Yeah

fleet canopy Jan 12, 2020, 11:44 PM

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Well I did

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But only giving me like little

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Not specific

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Gives me VX24

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Oh I found it kek

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VX2478 if you were wondering

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 11:49 PM

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My grandma has a Monitor that doesn’t need a PC

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With prebuilt systems you can’t pick and choose your parts. This is what you’ll be paying for parts of similar specs.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/cybertronpc-gaming-desktop-amd-ryzen-5-2600-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1660-1tb-hdd-120gb-ssd-black/6343963.p?skuId=6343963

vapid crypt Jan 12, 2020, 11:49 PM

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I put a build together earlier on pc part picker using an rx 570, very similar to that one; also using a budget micro board. The 5500xt is technically better but it does have a drawback of using x8 pci-e bandwidth

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 11:49 PM

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The PC is built into the monitor

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On the backside

vapid crypt Jan 12, 2020, 11:49 PM

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That's called an All-In-One PC

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 11:50 PM

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And how cheap can those get?

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More expensive, plus the lack of upgradability

vapid crypt Jan 12, 2020, 11:50 PM

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Well you can look it up now that you know what its called, but yeah its pretty niche

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 11:51 PM

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This is the cheapest one

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vapid crypt Jan 12, 2020, 11:51 PM

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It looks like they use mobile chips typically too

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Well maybe I'm not sure

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 11:52 PM

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A4-9125

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The others were like 700 or 600

#

Tbh, you’re better off buying a desktop and getting a monitor + peripherals. It would be wiser in my opinion.

If you’re not comfortable with building your own system, thats okay. There’s good prebuilts out there on the market.

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I rather just get an all in one

vapid crypt Jan 12, 2020, 11:56 PM

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You're gonna be limited by the onboard graphics those things have, so likely just 2d sprite games as I've mentioned before.

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 11:56 PM

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^

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There’s no dedicated graphics card the majority of all in ones.

vapid crypt Jan 12, 2020, 11:57 PM

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AMD's APUs are getting better as the years go on, but its not quite there yet

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 11:57 PM

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What you’re wanting to do requires more power than most “conventional” PCs can offer.

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Not a lot per se, but more than the average persons system.

#

With power, comes cost.

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That’s my $0.02

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2D games suck

#

Celeste is highly offended now lol

vapid crypt Jan 12, 2020, 11:59 PM

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And so is The Binding of Isaac PirateSimon

abstract kite Jan 12, 2020, 11:59 PM

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And the OG legend of zelda games

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Pokemon too

vapid crypt Jan 13, 2020, 12:00 AM

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What's another good one, uh

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Shantay?

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 12:00 AM

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Sorry but Outbound can’t be 2D it needs to be 3D

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YES

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And some Sonic and Megaman games

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Except those games

#

So many good 2D titles

#

Dragon Mark of Death was good

#

I enjoyed that on the Switch

vapid crypt Jan 13, 2020, 12:01 AM

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Is Outbound the name of your game concept?

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 12:02 AM

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Yeah it’s like Destiny

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Ahh

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Well, you’re going to need a system built for something of that calibre.

#

I’ve never personally used this, but NZXT’s prebuilts fit the specs for Unity. https://www.letsbld.com/starter-pc

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Plus I’d trust their quality over say CyberpowerPC or the other ones.

vapid crypt Jan 13, 2020, 12:06 AM

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I saw this video today of this small pc builder company based out of Las Vegas selling pcs for fairly small margins compared to typical system integrators

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJqv8MNsGjA

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Basically a sponsor video

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 12:07 AM

#

Well more like Borderlands actually

#

Both have similar ideas

#

I think I can understand the concept of the game

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📎 image0.jpg 📎 image1.jpg 📎 image2.jpg

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Here’s concept art I drew

late sorrel Jan 13, 2020, 12:10 AM

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nice

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 12:11 AM

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Honestly the first one I just drew random shapes and then somehow it became that

vapid crypt Jan 13, 2020, 12:11 AM

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Do you intend for it to be like an isometric style game, something like Diablo 3 graphically I mean

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 12:13 AM

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Not really it’s a FPS

vapid crypt Jan 13, 2020, 12:14 AM

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Oh okay, the art at face value reminded me of something like that. So those are just general landscapes

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 12:15 AM

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Well it’s part of a raid

#

On this planet called Acrotia

#

@sick reef I have a question for ya. Maybe you can answer it.

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Hmmmm?

late sorrel Jan 13, 2020, 12:26 AM

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smh asking labcat something

sick reef Jan 13, 2020, 12:27 AM

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Maybe so

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 12:27 AM

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I’m tweaking my 3700X in BIOS, and so far I’ve got it at max 75C on AIDA64.
PBO Enabled/Boost Override +200mhz
Voltage offset -0.0875
XMP C16 3600mhz
Global C-States Control Enabled

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But...

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I’m getting high 4400s, low 4500 in Cinebench R20 which makes me think the undervolt is too low. My chip should be getting higher... But normal voltage settings hit 1.45v at idle which is a bit bad. Supposedly it’s okay for Ryzen, but I’m still a little skeptical.

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Any ideas?

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Others are getting in the 4700s on R20

sick reef Jan 13, 2020, 12:29 AM

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Could it just be dissipation?

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 12:29 AM

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I should probably get some concept art for the WW1 horror game

sick reef Jan 13, 2020, 12:29 AM

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It's too warm

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 12:29 AM

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I’m unsure. Maybe the undervolt it causing it to get lower scores

sick reef Jan 13, 2020, 12:29 AM

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Especially considering boost 2.0?

fleet canopy Jan 13, 2020, 12:29 AM

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Well then

#

I got the 1060 and the 1440p monitor up for listing on Ebay

sick reef Jan 13, 2020, 12:30 AM

#

Undervolting in technical terms should increase temps at same effect

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 12:30 AM

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Really? I get max 75C on -0.0875. Stock I still hit 80C on a Dark Rock Pro 4

#

That doesnt seem right

sick reef Jan 13, 2020, 12:31 AM

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Or wait, fully technically no, but higher current leads to higher loads.

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 12:31 AM

#

The idle at 1.4 still scares me

sick reef Jan 13, 2020, 12:31 AM

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I assume your motherboard fares well and isn't disruptive

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 12:32 AM

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Its an Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Hero. Totally overkill for a 3700X but I intend on buying high end Ryzen 4000 in the next two years, so I splurged a bit

sick reef Jan 13, 2020, 12:32 AM

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Try it without undervolting, sufficed the PSU and MB can handle it

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 12:33 AM

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Once I get home I’m going to try without the undervolt and see how it fairs. Stock the MB wants 1.431v or something

#

Its on the latest BIOS I can find for it

sick reef Jan 13, 2020, 12:34 AM

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Maybe it loses stability, but it does seem a bit off

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 12:35 AM

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This would be my second iffy 3700X

#

If this is a perm issue

vapid crypt Jan 13, 2020, 12:35 AM

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Really? phaSheva

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 12:35 AM

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Yea

#

First one failed POST

sick reef Jan 13, 2020, 12:36 AM

#

FeelsIffyMBMan

#

ppLurk

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 12:36 AM

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Heh

#

This is my second mobo too

#

I’m so over this PC honestly

#

I’ve had issues since day one

sick reef Jan 13, 2020, 12:36 AM

#

What RAM do you have?

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 12:36 AM

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two months ago

sick reef Jan 13, 2020, 12:36 AM

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And PSU.

vapid crypt Jan 13, 2020, 12:37 AM

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Your ram is installed in the second and fourth slots, correct?

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 12:37 AM

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G.Skill 3600mhz 16-19-19-39. Slots 2 and 4.
PSU is Corsair RM850x

#

Theoretically nothing in terms of hardware should be hindering

fleet canopy Jan 13, 2020, 12:38 AM

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Don't some RAM slots need to be put in 1 and 3? Unless that is for older motherboards

late sorrel Jan 13, 2020, 12:38 AM

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sometimes

vapid crypt Jan 13, 2020, 12:38 AM

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Typically its 2 and 4, I don't know who's doing 1 and 3 atm

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 12:38 AM

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Most of the time dual channel is 2 and 4. Depends on if the motherboard is using daisy chain dimms or not.

#

1 and 3 are usually for quad channel

sick reef Jan 13, 2020, 12:39 AM

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It says in the manual

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Which one you need to use.

fleet canopy Jan 13, 2020, 12:39 AM

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The slots are numbered, yeah?

vapid crypt Jan 13, 2020, 12:39 AM

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Yeah the manual tells you, which is unfortunate cause I failed to do that with my first motherboard phaWesker

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 12:39 AM

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2 and 4 are the dual channel slots for mine.

vapid crypt Jan 13, 2020, 12:40 AM

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I was getting constant blue screens because I had the ram installed incorrectly, unknowingly installed it correctly; assumed something was wrong with the ram slots or something PirateSimon

fleet canopy Jan 13, 2020, 12:40 AM

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When installing the DRP4, didn't really see any numbers anywhere on slots, so that's sucky

#

And you returned it like a fool?

#

GWmythicalThonkCool

vapid crypt Jan 13, 2020, 12:40 AM

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phaWesker

sick reef Jan 13, 2020, 12:40 AM

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The timings on the rams aren't the fastest right? I dunno how much that affects performance though.

vapid crypt Jan 13, 2020, 12:40 AM

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Yes that's exactly what happened

fleet canopy Jan 13, 2020, 12:40 AM

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Haha omfg

sick reef Jan 13, 2020, 12:40 AM

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Would want to try another PSU if I were in your seat.

fleet canopy Jan 13, 2020, 12:40 AM

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That must have fucking sucked once you found out

vapid crypt Jan 13, 2020, 12:40 AM

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And you can use Ryzen ram calculator to figure out better timings

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Eh, I ended up buying a more expensive motherboard because at the time all the popular ones were selling out...

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I also had to get a new case cause I originally intended for a mico-atx build, but that changed fast

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 12:42 AM

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If I experience issues then I think I can blame the PSU

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It’s frustrating since I cant seem to catch a break

sick reef Jan 13, 2020, 12:42 AM

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Because these issues can come when it isn't fed enough current.

vapid crypt Jan 13, 2020, 12:42 AM

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I still have the micro case though... should do something with it

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 12:42 AM

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Low current causes high temps?

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Interesting.

sick reef Jan 13, 2020, 12:43 AM

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But it could also just be temperature related.

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Not that

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 12:43 AM

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Oh lol

sick reef Jan 13, 2020, 12:43 AM

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Low current can cause unoptimal power usage.

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Gives weird errors.

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 12:43 AM

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Ahh

sick reef Jan 13, 2020, 12:44 AM

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But yeah, low Cinebench is likely the temp, due to Boost 2.0's sensitivity to temps.

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 12:44 AM

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Would you suggest I remove PBO as well?

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I’m trying to keep the chip below 75C

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Hence all the settings for it

sick reef Jan 13, 2020, 12:45 AM

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What is PBO?

vapid crypt Jan 13, 2020, 12:45 AM

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What kind of airflow are you working with regarding the case?

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 12:45 AM

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Precision Boost Overdrive

sick reef Jan 13, 2020, 12:45 AM

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Hm

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 12:45 AM

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2 120mm intakes, 1 120mm exhaust

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About to up that to 140mm intakes

dusky viper Jan 13, 2020, 12:46 AM

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hello i have a microwave can i play at GTFO ?

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 12:46 AM

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since mine are too loud

late sorrel Jan 13, 2020, 12:46 AM

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probably

vapid crypt Jan 13, 2020, 12:46 AM

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Mesh front?

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 12:46 AM

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Meshify C

vapid crypt Jan 13, 2020, 12:46 AM

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I see

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 12:46 AM

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Mesh everything lol

sick reef Jan 13, 2020, 12:46 AM

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3 fans?

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 12:47 AM

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Yes. CPU cooler is a Dark Rock 4 Pro

sick reef Jan 13, 2020, 12:47 AM

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I'd recommend more.

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 12:47 AM

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For a 65W chip?

vapid crypt Jan 13, 2020, 12:47 AM

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I think I saw that Lian Li is gonna have a case with a side mesh shrowd that you can open where the psu and drives are

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 12:47 AM

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Thats the crazy part

sick reef Jan 13, 2020, 12:47 AM

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For anyone.

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65W chip means jack shit if you overclock or run boost clocks

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PepeNote

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 12:48 AM

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Stock speeds are fine for me

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Tbh

vapid crypt Jan 13, 2020, 12:48 AM

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I have 4 chassis fans personally

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 12:48 AM

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I had 4 chassis too

fleet canopy Jan 13, 2020, 12:48 AM

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Just staying stock, it does automatic overclocking I believe

vapid crypt Jan 13, 2020, 12:48 AM

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2 140 intakes, 1 140 top exhaust and 1 120 rear

fleet canopy Jan 13, 2020, 12:48 AM

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Pretty sure it's not like all CPUs do it but yeah

vapid crypt Jan 13, 2020, 12:48 AM

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I had to zip tie the intake fans phaWesker

sick reef Jan 13, 2020, 12:49 AM

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I have 5 delta's. It s obviously overkill but I'd say minimum of 4 fans, mainly for efficiency to noise.

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Two in, two out.

fleet canopy Jan 13, 2020, 12:49 AM

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Just get a room fan

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Either silent or loud depending on what it is, but great cooling!

sick reef Jan 13, 2020, 12:49 AM

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The important part is getting the air out of the case.

vapid crypt Jan 13, 2020, 12:50 AM

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I'm gonna replace the 140 exhaust I have with a 120, it doesn't actually fit properly.

fleet canopy Jan 13, 2020, 12:50 AM

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Just take off the other side panel

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Some go for full intake, some full outtake

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Dunno how it even does a difference, but it does

vapid crypt Jan 13, 2020, 12:50 AM

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The chassis is just narrow enough that the cpu eps cables interfere with its placement

sick reef Jan 13, 2020, 12:51 AM

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It depends on if you want to shimmy with your fans.

vapid crypt Jan 13, 2020, 12:51 AM

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Basically not enough ceiling room

sick reef Jan 13, 2020, 12:51 AM

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Strong enough fans, and you overcome what ever benifit is gained from different setups.

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 12:51 AM

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I’ll buy a fan splitter to run another exhaust when I buy my Noctuas

sick reef Jan 13, 2020, 12:52 AM

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You only have 3 fan connectors?

vapid crypt Jan 13, 2020, 12:52 AM

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The fans I have can be daisy chained together

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 12:52 AM

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3 labeled chassis fans that is. Everything else is for AIO pumps and crap like that.

sick reef Jan 13, 2020, 12:53 AM

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I can't daisy chain mine properly, as they are three pin, and run at .43A, apart from the one that runs at 1A

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 12:53 AM

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Ouch

sick reef Jan 13, 2020, 12:53 AM

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Make sure the socket can handle the current.

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It actually runs at 1.34, but it doesn't fully matter.

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My fan controller maxes out at 1.78, so I can't connect them together. But I can plug it into the motherboard for a static current.

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 12:54 AM

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I’ll definitely check

sick reef Jan 13, 2020, 12:57 AM

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Now, just to clarify, it isn't about the number of fans, technically, but in terms of efficiency, you gain a lot more dividing the job up over two fans instead of one.

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 12:57 AM

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CFM essentially

sick reef Jan 13, 2020, 12:57 AM

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They have an efficiency curve that generally benifits most greatly around 40% performance.

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It's more than that.

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 12:58 AM

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Oh okay

sick reef Jan 13, 2020, 12:59 AM

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But working 2 fans at the same effective efficiency as 1, often means lower noise levels.

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Generally speaking.

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Very low and very high speeds, the solo fan would be less loud, strictly speaking RPM. But the overall efficiency would favour the dual set-up.

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Diminished returns holds true both in the numbers of fans, but also at the level of which the fans are run.

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Speaking of noise level compared to efficiency.

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 6:36 AM

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tfw you reinstall windows and have to redownload all your applications 😦

merry bay Jan 13, 2020, 6:45 AM

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Ninite speeds things up a little bit. I keep a bunch of software on a separate HDD, the ones that are hard to remember and rare to use.

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 9:21 AM

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After many, many frustrating situations, I’m happy to say that my PC is near completion. I actually love this setup and system much more than the first iteration. Not because of all the issues, but the look of the hardware itself.

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Only things left to do:
order quieter fans and adjust fan curves.
mild adjustments in BIOS

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More pics tomorrow when the hardware has some nice natural light being cast on it

late hollow Jan 13, 2020, 12:40 PM

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Anyone know if swapping the data disk out of a western digital green to a Western digital blue?my dad's hard drive just died and I have a working Western digital blue that works?: P

supple ice Jan 13, 2020, 1:29 PM

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@abstract kite Ahh Dark rock pro 4, I see your a man of culture aswell

jade ermine Jan 13, 2020, 3:40 PM

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@abstract kite Look's great! Mind sharing what components you have in there?

median moon Jan 13, 2020, 3:53 PM

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@abstract kite v a p o r w a v e

vapid crypt Jan 13, 2020, 4:22 PM

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I have the same mouse, its a great value

hidden obsidian Jan 13, 2020, 4:30 PM

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My setup isn’t the best but here it is

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It’s cable managed not so it’s a bit better

median moon Jan 13, 2020, 4:31 PM

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very nice

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streaming build?

hidden obsidian Jan 13, 2020, 5:11 PM

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No just for playing with my friends

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My main monitor is a 144hz 1 response time

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And it’s 4K

fleet canopy Jan 13, 2020, 5:12 PM

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Dang

dusty pumice Jan 13, 2020, 5:12 PM

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looks like a nice streaming setup

fleet canopy Jan 13, 2020, 5:13 PM

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Yeah it seems a pretty good stream setup tbh

dusty pumice Jan 13, 2020, 5:13 PM

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that mousepad tho 3XL?

hidden obsidian Jan 13, 2020, 5:19 PM

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3xl glorious

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Same with the 60% keyboard wrist test

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And the keyboard is a rubber ducky

dusty pumice Jan 13, 2020, 5:21 PM

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3xl is amazing tbh

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I just havent bought it yet because im scared it wont fit my washing machine lmfao

hidden obsidian Jan 13, 2020, 5:22 PM

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Lol

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Also my desk is a gaming turismo desk, and it’s an infinity mousepad design so it covers the whole desk but I put a nicer one over it.

dusty pumice Jan 13, 2020, 5:24 PM

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Yeah seemed like a double mousepad

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didnt say anything about it tho those keycaps arent ducky tho are they?

hidden obsidian Jan 13, 2020, 5:25 PM

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They’re hyper x key caps

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I forgot which ones to be honest

dusty pumice Jan 13, 2020, 5:26 PM

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Dont remember the name tbh

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Double shot maybe?

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But might be the white version of those

hidden obsidian Jan 13, 2020, 5:27 PM

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I’ll find them

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HyperX Double Shot PBT Keycaps - 104 Mechanical Keycap Set - Black & White Pudding - Durable - HyperX Mechanical Keyboard Compatible - OEM Profile - 2 Year Warranty (HXS-KBKC3) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07JDVG4RQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_gIkhEb5EWEYBF

dusty pumice Jan 13, 2020, 5:28 PM

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Yeah double shots black top

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Now you just need a mouse bungee and that setup will look nice and clean lmfao

hidden obsidian Jan 13, 2020, 5:32 PM

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I’m saving for the glorious model o.

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I’m in high school so I can’t do much with my build

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I use it for gaming and programming.

stiff rock Jan 13, 2020, 5:35 PM

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I had to work for my pc when i was like 16 👀

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Can't wait to get my new rig with a PROPER job and all

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(Worked in holydays)

hidden obsidian Jan 13, 2020, 5:37 PM

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Oh nice, I’m trying to get a job.

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Once I get a better mouse and the mouse bungee and my setup will be done

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Also maybe a better chair

dusty pumice Jan 13, 2020, 5:51 PM

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Cant see the chair so cant tell

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lmfao

hidden obsidian Jan 13, 2020, 5:55 PM

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It’s shit

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Could I see your setup?

willow steeple Jan 13, 2020, 6:06 PM

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Can you get banned for using reshade in this game?

hidden obsidian Jan 13, 2020, 6:12 PM

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This game has no anticheat so no.

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@willow steeple

willow steeple Jan 13, 2020, 6:12 PM

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Ok, thanks

dusty pumice Jan 13, 2020, 6:21 PM

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@hidden obsidian i dont have full pictures of my setup sorry

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 6:23 PM

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What about this laptop will this suffice for Unity or UE4

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hidden obsidian Jan 13, 2020, 6:35 PM

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@abstract kite I’m not sure

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I honestly don’t think so

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What game in particular.

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 6:42 PM

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Well I wanted to make a WW1 horror game like GTFO @hidden obsidian

hidden obsidian Jan 13, 2020, 6:45 PM

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Are you game developer or do you plan on becoming one? @abstract kite

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 6:46 PM

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Becoming one

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I can use tutorials on it

jovial prawn Jan 13, 2020, 6:52 PM

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Generally speaking, avoid laptops if you can. They tend to be overpriced for what they actually can do, not to mention that their parts can be weaker than their desktop counterparts.

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If you're deadset on a laptop though, make sure it's running the correct OS. If you get something like a chromebook, there's a lot that simply can't function because ChromeOS can't run it. Such as Microsoft Word, for example.

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 6:56 PM

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Ok but my room has no room for a desktop computer

jovial prawn Jan 13, 2020, 6:57 PM

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Well I suppose if you can't reposition things you'll just have to work with what you can find. I can't really help beyond that.

dusty pumice Jan 13, 2020, 6:57 PM

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WoozaLast Tuesday at 4:31 PM
I recommend to anyone instead of buying a gaming notebook, to have a good PC and buy a cheap notebook/ tablet and enable Steam In-Streaming mode. You can play any games with highest details on a crappy notebook

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Works with steam not with unity and ue4

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 6:58 PM

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Groundus we’re talking about laptops or PCs for game development

dusty pumice Jan 13, 2020, 6:58 PM

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I just typed that

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 6:58 PM

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Not to play games

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Nvm

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I’m trying to figure out what laptop or desktop I wanna develop games on

dusty pumice Jan 13, 2020, 7:01 PM

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Im trying to figure out when imma be falling asleep

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Bout to hit somewhere between 24 hour and 36 hours awake lmfao

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But i would honestly say desktop really depends on the free time you have

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If you have time to sit down take a desktop if you want to work while traveling laptop

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Sadly for me all my laptops just catch dust once i dont need them anymore for work = (

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 7:04 PM

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True

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Is this good

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vapid crypt Jan 13, 2020, 7:30 PM

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It could work, but for that price it probably isn't worth it

hidden obsidian Jan 13, 2020, 7:31 PM

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Guys, please sign up using this link: https://refer4me.co/?referral=HydraHacks

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Just make an account and that’s it, I want to see if this site is legit.

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But don’t trust this site enough to do anything else lol.

dusty pumice Jan 13, 2020, 7:32 PM

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I dont know about all that boss sorry not for me = (

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 7:34 PM

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@median moon @jade ermine @supple ice

Specs:
Ryzen 3700X
Dark Rock 4 Pro
Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Hero X570
32GB G.Skill Trident Z Neo 3600Mhz
EVGA GTX 1070 FTW
Corsair RM850x
500GB Samsung EVO SSD
2TB Seagate HDD```

The PC is a culmination of parts from my old PC and some new hardware. I’m planning on upgrading my GPU this year around the holiday season, but even now she’s plenty for me. 🙂

jade ermine Jan 13, 2020, 7:47 PM

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X570 crosshair is sweet mobo

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 7:50 PM

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I bought it to futureproof the system for later gen

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I’m probably going to be buying Ryzen 4000 next year when the price drops since I dont plan on adopting 5000.

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And this is one of the better X570 boards, so it should be a-okay.

hidden obsidian Jan 13, 2020, 7:52 PM

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I would suggest getting an SSD @abstract kite

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 7:52 PM

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I noticed I typed in Crossfire. I continually get it mixed up lol

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I do have one

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Samsung 850 EVO

hidden obsidian Jan 13, 2020, 7:52 PM

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Oh my bad I’m blind lol

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I just read HDS

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 7:52 PM

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Its good lol

hidden obsidian Jan 13, 2020, 7:52 PM

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Hdd*

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 7:53 PM

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I might get some M.2 drives in the future

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I’ve been planning this PC for a while now, and with a few upgrades I wont need a new one for 5 years

supple ice Jan 13, 2020, 7:53 PM

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my current rig

hidden obsidian Jan 13, 2020, 7:53 PM

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I wouldn’t suggest it personally. There’s very little difference between that and an ssd. I watched a comparison video and the difference was literally a second.

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 7:54 PM

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SATA SSDs and M.2 SSDs are nearly the same price

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~$10 more last time I checked

hidden obsidian Jan 13, 2020, 7:55 PM

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I just like an ssd better because they’re portable and simple

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Also I don’t think I have a slot

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 7:55 PM

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@supple ice Thats a pretty nice rig

supple ice Jan 13, 2020, 7:55 PM

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Yeah, it runs what it needs to

hidden obsidian Jan 13, 2020, 7:56 PM

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What’s a headset you guys would recommend? I currently have Astro 50s

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 7:56 PM

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I never move my drives since they all stay in the system. So far I’ve had plenty of storage for what I run. I’ve not had issues with capacity

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Do you want a good headset w/ mic?

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Or do you have a standalone microphone

hidden obsidian Jan 13, 2020, 7:57 PM

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I have a blue gate for a mic but now I want a better pair of headphones

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Blue yeti*

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 7:57 PM

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whats your budget

hidden obsidian Jan 13, 2020, 7:57 PM

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Anything

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 7:57 PM

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I think I have a good set to recommend

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let me grab a link

hidden obsidian Jan 13, 2020, 7:57 PM

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But I don’t just want the most expensive I want the best

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Sounds good

supple ice Jan 13, 2020, 7:58 PM

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I personally run and can recommend DT 770/990 and ModMicv4/v5

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I love beyerdynamics DT770 alot

hidden obsidian Jan 13, 2020, 7:58 PM

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Never heard of those but I’ll do some research when I get home

supple ice Jan 13, 2020, 7:58 PM

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They are hugely popular

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 7:59 PM

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https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Swiveled-Neodymium-Omni-Directional/dp/B07JH3LSHN

supple ice Jan 13, 2020, 7:59 PM

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I bet you have seen them somewhere already even if you cant remember

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 7:59 PM

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Those

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Are amazing

hidden obsidian Jan 13, 2020, 7:59 PM

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I play R6 by the way so sound is necessary. I’m talking too quality sound quality but I don’t care about mi mc quality

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 7:59 PM

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I’m going to send you a video of a guy who explains them better than I ever could

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I play R6 too so I understand

hidden obsidian Jan 13, 2020, 8:00 PM

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Are you sure they’re good for being that cheap?

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 8:01 PM

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Just sent you the vid @hidden obsidian

hidden obsidian Jan 13, 2020, 8:04 PM

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I looked through the rules on those server and it seem that talking about hacking is allowed.

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 8:05 PM

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Hacking is terrible

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What about hacking?

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In and of itself hacking isnt bad. Depends on what you do with it is the issue.

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There’s “white hat”
and “black hat”

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It’s just terrible when you hack games

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there’s a difference

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In that case yes, it’s not good. Hacking with malicious intent or for unfair advantages is frowned upon.

hidden obsidian Jan 13, 2020, 8:12 PM

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Calm down @abstract kite

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I actually brought this up because there’s no anticheat whatsoever which is sad. Even in online I made infinite ammo hack within seconds.

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I would love to talk to the devs and help them protect this game so it doesn’t get ruined by hackers.

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 8:13 PM

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^

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An anticheat system would be a nice addition

hidden obsidian Jan 13, 2020, 8:14 PM

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The only value that I found that was somewhat encrypted was health. But other then that I gave myself INT_MAX ammo almost instantly.

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 8:15 PM

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Youre kidding

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Thats crazy

hidden obsidian Jan 13, 2020, 8:15 PM

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I can show you if you’re interested.

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 8:15 PM

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If it’s fallout 76 hacks I don’t really care

hidden obsidian Jan 13, 2020, 8:15 PM

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Even speedhack works. Which allows you to outrun everyone.

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And basically speed up everything... besides the enemy’s.

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 8:16 PM

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@abstract kite

It’s just terrible when you hack games.
If it’s Fallout 76 hacks I really don’t care.

Bias much?

hidden obsidian Jan 13, 2020, 8:16 PM

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Fallout 76 is shit...

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 8:17 PM

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😦

fleet canopy Jan 13, 2020, 8:18 PM

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Hm

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 8:18 PM

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I think I know how you’re doing it @hidden obsidian, but for the sake of the game I’d rather not discuss it here. I don’t think either you or I want an influx of hackers in the game because a “guide” was kinda posted unintentionally

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Just my $0.02

hidden obsidian Jan 13, 2020, 8:22 PM

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I respect that.

elder tide Jan 13, 2020, 9:01 PM

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@hidden obsidian I think anti cheat will be detrimental to the game once modding starts happening tbh. Especially if rundown release time is as slow as it's been xD

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Plus anti cheat fucks so many games it's not even funny

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 9:02 PM

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Two launchers could be created then

elder tide Jan 13, 2020, 9:02 PM

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Dbd, mhw

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Two games off the top of my head that have horrid anti cheat

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Granted mhw is getting patched soon

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But dbds anti cheat has been shit for 3 years

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To the point of it being unplayable at times

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I mean people are already accessing unreleased content, all you're doing with anti cheat is delaying the inevitable

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More important things to focus on rn

hidden obsidian Jan 13, 2020, 9:10 PM

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I guess.

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They don’t really even need an anticheat but they need to store more values on the server like player coordinates and ammo.

merry bay Jan 13, 2020, 9:11 PM

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@supple ice The sound quality on the Modmic is pretty bad. For the price you pay, I wouldn't recommend it. Their patented magnetic mounting mechanism is the real sell though.
Because I use it at home, I didn't mind turning mine ugly. Taped a different mic onto the Modmic so the magnet and adjustable arm is still usable.

abstract kite Jan 13, 2020, 9:27 PM

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Ffs I can’t find a anything good for game development

supple ice Jan 13, 2020, 9:36 PM

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@merry bay Cant complain about my sound quality at all tbh and for the ease of use and good support the pricetag is worth it imo

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Its not like I want studio grade audio recording, I play games with friends and sometimes stream and the mic pics up my voice clearly with decent quality while mostly avoiding the rest thats behind it lke keyboard etc.

hidden obsidian Jan 14, 2020, 2:49 AM

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Should I get these for WASD?

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0743ZZYDX/ref=twister_B074KRY33G?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

fleet canopy Jan 14, 2020, 3:03 AM

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If you want lmao

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Red ones look good

hidden obsidian Jan 14, 2020, 3:14 AM

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i got titanium lol.

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It fits my build better.

dusty pumice Jan 14, 2020, 3:28 AM

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I have both versions from hyperx

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Dont like em

hidden obsidian Jan 14, 2020, 3:33 AM

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Why?

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What's wrong with them?

copper zealot Jan 14, 2020, 3:35 AM

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bruh don't even get me started on my 768 mb sticks of barracuda ram

hidden obsidian Jan 14, 2020, 3:36 AM

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What lmao?

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i have 32 gigs.

copper zealot Jan 14, 2020, 3:37 AM

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WTF thats like over 18 sticks of ram

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that doesn't fit in computers

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What sorcery is this

fleet canopy Jan 14, 2020, 3:40 AM

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Haha

dusty pumice Jan 14, 2020, 3:40 AM

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Nothing wrong with the keycaps just dont like them

fleet canopy Jan 14, 2020, 3:41 AM

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We need 128KB of RAM to Insert rest of Hackerman here

copper zealot Jan 14, 2020, 3:48 AM

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BTW i own the peregrine glove

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Only the finest and i have an original nintenwho power glove as well 🙂

fleet canopy Jan 14, 2020, 3:49 AM

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Lies

copper zealot Jan 14, 2020, 3:52 AM

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i bet i can play GTFO with the peregrine

late hollow Jan 14, 2020, 2:48 PM

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https://media.tenor.com/images/499d9ba5e7668291e041ac68dc9b1c19/tenor.gif

fleet junco Jan 14, 2020, 3:01 PM

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NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERDS

hidden obsidian Jan 14, 2020, 8:37 PM

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Would anyone suggest the glorious model o? Is there anything I should know about before buying?

merry bay Jan 14, 2020, 8:39 PM

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I have it since summer, among the ultralights it's definitely the best candidate. Cheapest mouse I went with so far, and the most satisfied

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The cable is a tiny bit stiffer than paracording a mouse on your own, but i honestly can't feel it unless it has other stuff on top of the cable(duh).

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If peripheral hygiene is a big thing for you, then the honeycomb design will be dreadful. Sweaty gamer crust builds up in each hole instead of just a layer you can wipe off easily. Also cat hair enters inside and gets illuminated. Quite visible.

hidden obsidian Jan 14, 2020, 8:53 PM

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@merry bay The model D just came out and now I'm researching that.

hidden obsidian Jan 14, 2020, 9:11 PM

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My A50s aren't working anymore, the base station says that their fully charged but they won't turn on. Does anyone have any clue why this maybe happening? If not would you suggest any other gaming headsets?

hoary plaza Jan 14, 2020, 9:41 PM

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@hidden obsidian how old are they and is it only when conntected to PC? i have had connections problems and and found that by switching where the sound is going and then unplugging the base station plug back in it seems to fix it.

hidden obsidian Jan 14, 2020, 10:11 PM

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I've tried that many times @hoary plaza

hoary plaza Jan 14, 2020, 10:17 PM

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is it possble that the speakers jsut blew? also i just replaced my a50s for the newest ones and gotta say glad i havent switched yet

hidden obsidian Jan 14, 2020, 10:46 PM

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No, it won't even turn on.

abstract kite Jan 14, 2020, 10:57 PM

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I just talk to Fry’s Electronics so they helped me find a PC

fleet canopy Jan 14, 2020, 11:30 PM

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Yeah?

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How’d it go

abstract kite Jan 14, 2020, 11:33 PM

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Well he said it was 519 for a gaming pc and that was on sale

fleet canopy Jan 14, 2020, 11:34 PM

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Hm

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Maybe it’ll be good

abstract kite Jan 14, 2020, 11:34 PM

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Yeah just need to get a monitor

vapid crypt Jan 14, 2020, 11:46 PM

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Did they give you a spec list?

abstract kite Jan 14, 2020, 11:48 PM

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Yeah but I forgot

fleet canopy Jan 14, 2020, 11:48 PM

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Dang

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Got a rough estimate of what it was though?

vapid crypt Jan 14, 2020, 11:48 PM

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Did they just look at what they had in inventory or something?

abstract kite Jan 14, 2020, 11:52 PM

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Yeah I told I wanna do game develop on Unreal Engine 4

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How about this PC

fleet canopy Jan 14, 2020, 11:53 PM

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A case and those specs seems ridiculous >.>

abstract kite Jan 14, 2020, 11:53 PM

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Why

fleet canopy Jan 14, 2020, 11:54 PM

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A great looking case, but it’s not the best specs and I’m pretty sure you can get better ones for same price

abstract kite Jan 14, 2020, 11:54 PM

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;-;

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fleet canopy Jan 14, 2020, 11:58 PM

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Man they’re so bad at describing them :(

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Man they’re so bad at describing them :(

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Man they’re so bad at describing them :(

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Man they’re so bad at describing them :(

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Discord lag

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Lemme try to find a good PC for good price

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You don’t mind paying like around 750$?

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https://www.amazon.com/CYBERPOWERPC-Xtreme-i5-9400F-GeForce-GXiVR8060A8/dp/B07VGJDKZ4/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?keywords=gaming+pc&qid=1579046365&sr=8-5

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Waiting for a sale on this would be my recommendation

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Pretty sure it’ll go down to like 650$ or lower

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It has 8GB RAM, but it’s really simple to replace RAM sticks so don’t worry

cyan storm Jan 15, 2020, 12:08 AM

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yourebreathtaking

fleet canopy Jan 15, 2020, 12:09 AM

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Ah yes, hello Cyberpunk 2077 member

cyan storm Jan 15, 2020, 12:09 AM

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Haha, hello SadCat2

abstract kite Jan 15, 2020, 12:34 AM

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Ok thanks muppy

waxen orchid Jan 15, 2020, 12:50 AM

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wallpaper engine really does have a lot of really great cyberpunk ones

tight garden Jan 15, 2020, 6:55 AM

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Anyone got a spare i7-4790k lying around? on a Shelf

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I know that's random

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I just sold my old GPU got me thinking if it's worth upgrading my rig from an i5-4670k to an i7-4790k

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Or if I should just go out and buy a full new rig

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it's been a while

jade sail Jan 15, 2020, 7:11 AM

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Anyone got a LGA 1150 cpu thats better then a i5 4590? its struggling with big games

dense wasp Jan 15, 2020, 10:22 AM

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I'm on a 4770, sorry 😛

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@tight garden

abstract kite Jan 15, 2020, 10:23 AM

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@tight garden How much are you willing to spend?

fleet junco Jan 15, 2020, 10:28 AM

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I'm currently on an i7 6700

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And my current bottleneck is the GPU😂

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Asus GTX 1060 6GB 9Gbps Advanced Edition

hexed horizon Jan 15, 2020, 11:12 AM

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is that GPU really a bottle neck?

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Thunk

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I mean sure it's not the best piece of GPU out there anymore but it was the decent hardware back in its time

fleet junco Jan 15, 2020, 11:58 AM

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I forgot which game I played, but the GPU was maxed at 100% usage while the CPU was more or less idling at 50-60%.

hexed horizon Jan 15, 2020, 12:02 PM

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Yeah well today's games are a different thing

sick reef Jan 15, 2020, 12:02 PM

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Could be a lot of games. Just go 1440p, 144Hz, and tada, most games run like shit

hexed horizon Jan 15, 2020, 12:02 PM

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i'm still kicking a 1050Ti which runs 2016 games just OK

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And yeah if you go above 1080p and your target FPS is more than 60 then yeah, that's a bottle neck

sick reef Jan 15, 2020, 12:03 PM

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Nah, a 1060 can run beyond 60 on 1080p. You do have to adjust settings, though

fleet junco Jan 15, 2020, 12:04 PM

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I can easily run Witcher 3 and DOOM on ultra settings with 80FPS+

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Nvidia hairwotks disabled for Witcher. Not even a NASA PC can run the game with that thing on lol

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Hairworks*

hexed horizon Jan 15, 2020, 12:05 PM

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I mean it depends on the quality

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i mean i can't expect PC games to lower the settings, then why are they playing on PC

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#pcmasterrace

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but yeah the 1060 is still an OK card

sick reef Jan 15, 2020, 12:06 PM

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Being able to actually change settings being pcmasterrace standard

fleet junco Jan 15, 2020, 12:10 PM

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B-but the human eye and 60fps...

dusty pumice Jan 15, 2020, 12:13 PM

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Anyone can recommend a good quality rgb ram kit?

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I dont know shit about fancy ram

hexed horizon Jan 15, 2020, 12:13 PM

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why RGB

dusty pumice Jan 15, 2020, 12:13 PM

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Idk not me 😩

fleet junco Jan 15, 2020, 12:14 PM

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Ikr

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Why is everyone obsessed with RGB?

dusty pumice Jan 15, 2020, 12:14 PM

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Lights up the parts nicely i guess

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My case is almost 100% dark lmfao

fleet junco Jan 15, 2020, 12:15 PM

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Same.

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Only one RGB fan for my cooler.

dusty pumice Jan 15, 2020, 12:15 PM

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I got some RGB on my mobo and cooler

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and gpu

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And the free led strips i got with my bequiet case for my i7-7700k build