it's bad
#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk
ornate ginkgo
abstract kite
Could be way better
fleet canopy
At least it ain’t any worse lol
ornate ginkgo
trueeee
abstract kite
Muppy!
fleet canopy
Yes yes?
fleet canopy
Christmas is over, the last snow beckons it’s good bye. I have no need for it anymore
fleet canopy
Indeed
abstract kite
I am not looking for a job atm ;-;
abstract kite
@hasty aspen No it wont. It cant initialize the CPU DXE/drivers (code 64)... Either the board or chip is bricked. Idk which, but sadly there’s no getting around it. I’m just going to have to replace both. 😦
ornate ginkgo
@abstract kite we just had a similar problem, what the problem? #ToLazyToBackRead
abstract kite
@ornate ginkgo rereading what the issue was... give me a sec
ornate ginkgo
Take your time :D
abstract kite
Windows reboot error?
Thats sucks
My windows is officially junked. Going to have to do a clean install, but I cant even get my system to POST at the moment. lol
Windows is one of the worst coded OSes. Hands down lol
ornate ginkgo
mhhh. Just start from a usb stick and copy missing files from second stick... that's how did it.
i only have 7 Bluescreens a day ._.
i mean...
abstract kite
OOF
abstract kite
Win10 is what I use of course, but its base system is so bloated. Not to mention all the updates piled on top.
Apple OS is unix based and so much cleaner, but lacks support for a significant amount of applications.
Linux is godly, but again lacks support. There’s so many flavors too which I love. Ubuntu, CentOS, Kali ( ❤️ ), Zorin, openSUSE, etc.
You’re stuck with Win10 if you want to do anything like gaming
ornate ginkgo
i mean, ofc apple doesn't need updates... for the 3 hardware configs they have? xD
abstract kite
They do have updates, but the coding is much, much cleaner.
Microsoft seems to hire anyone and everyone who says they can “code”, slaps them down in front of a computer, and says “make the new windows os. brownie points for as messy of code as you can make.”
ornate ginkgo
They don't need to consider 10.000.000. That what windows got with being so... used by everything... YES I SAID IT! WIN10 IS THE BITCH OF ALL OS.
linux is like the shy kid in class that always have A's
abstract kite
Thats also why Windows systems are the most targeted by malware, spyware, etc. Mass supply, so a higher chance of getting a bite.
ornate ginkgo
exactly
abstract kite
If I can get this absolutely frustrating system to finally cooperate, I’m going to be running tons of Linux VMs on Windows 10
Kali for server penetration, and Ubuntu for coding
Aaaand Zorin for fun
Its like a reskinned Ubuntu with a Mint interface
I love it
ornate ginkgo
yes... i totally have a clue of all these os... uhmmm... you like PS2? :'P
abstract kite
Heh
I need to set up a lemonade stand
So I can buy a 3950X
And create two numa domains
😂
Two 8 core 16 thread partitions; cut the processor in half essentially
fleet canopy
I already set up a lemonade stand like 3 years ago and I ain’t still got money for anything
abstract kite
I mean
ornate ginkgo
i had no money for lemonades ._.
abstract kite
You got a 2070S
fleet canopy
Hah
abstract kite
wink wink
fleet canopy
Honestly I’d love just having a 3700x
fleet canopy
Could be a dud
fleet canopy
You will use my first PC o game on and EXPERIENCE suffering
ornate ginkgo
lovely <3
fleet canopy
A shitty Dell laptop for me
abstract kite
Gotta love low end laptops
fleet canopy
Only played like farming sim 2009 or some shit
abstract kite
Minecraft at like 27fps
fleet canopy
I remember hitting 15FPS in Payday 2
abstract kite
Woah nice
ornate ginkgo
Arma 2... 480p... 15 FPS max... i had no regrets xD
fleet canopy
Only time I hit 60FPS on payday 2 was loading screen lol
ornate ginkgo
x3
abstract kite
Bet ur team had regrets lol
ornate ginkgo
naw! DayZ mod times
ornate ginkgo
TRUE!#
abstract kite
I’ve never played Arma but I’ve watched a ton of it
ornate ginkgo
Even though it's such a nice game
abstract kite
Idk if I’d like it personally.
abstract kite
Not the game; the community
fleet canopy
Ah
ornate ginkgo
It like torturing yourself, you don't like it, you still do it, but you still doing it = Arma3 multiplayer 🤔
abstract kite
Tru lol
ornate ginkgo
i love the game though
fleet canopy
I’m not really talkative ._.
ornate ginkgo
i think almost 1.000hours
fleet canopy
I’m pretty shy or I don’t understand a single word so no idea what to do but stay silent
static cloak
mossy lintel
So a 15% bottleneck occurs when a Ryzen 2200g is paired with an rx580. This is manageable, correct?
abstract kite
I'd say so. Depends on how much performance you need.
Some games barely utilize CPU so you can get away with a surprisingly low power chip. Try to play something like Battlefield though, and you'll most likely notice that bottleneck.
vapid crypt
GTFO for example, you would be perfectly fine with the 2200g. Basically meets the min req for processor, place cpu culling to low and its fine.
abstract kite
So, I am looking for a New Headset since my current one is more or less falling apart and on its last legs. Any suggestions?
dusty pumice
@abstract kite Whats ur budget?
And open or closed headset?
Wireless or non wireless?
dusty pumice
Background like voices or animal noises or any other noise in general
What do you have now for headset what and brand?
abstract kite
Tecknet
dusty pumice
abstract kite
Close, more or less.
dusty pumice
I think with that budget either logitech or HyperX falls best in your price range
abstract kite
What would you recommend despite budget @dusty pumice?
dusty pumice
I think that headsets are very much based on personal choice
But i would go with Sennheiser
But thats an european brand
So you will usually pay more
I honestly think tho that Logitech and possibly HyperX too make very good quality headsets for the price range your looking in
but some are closed and some are open on their website
Usually the quality of the mic goes up and down depending on the price
dusty pumice
thats why some people just decided to starting to buy clip on mics instead of headsets since you can get a good quality setup for that price range
abstract kite
Its only $11k
dusty pumice
I cant visit that website for some reason lmfao
abstract kite
Lmao
dusty pumice
I mean there are gaming headsets sennheiser makes
abstract kite
dusty pumice
Lmfao
I mean something like this
but thats open instead of closed
Depends what your gonna use it for too, if you want to use it more for music or solo player games or more for competitive gaming like CSGO or Apex legends or Rainbow six siege
waxen orchid
fleet canopy
850$ tax
vapid crypt
This is a solid budget set, at least from what I've heard from a buddy of mine https://www.amazon.com/CORSAIR-HS50-Certified-Headphones-Nintendo/dp/B07XF2ZXNG?th=1
sinful acorn
This is a headset that I have had for years now without any problems: https://www.amazon.com/HyperX-Cloud-Gaming-Headset-KHX-HSCP-GM/dp/B00SAYCXWG?th=1
abstract kite
Okay gang, today was D-day.
My AIO pissed itself. Bad. Found out as I was disassembling my PC to take back the CPU and Mobo.
Here’s the debate: Dark Rock Pro 4 or Noctua NH-D15 Chromax
Opinions pls
vapid crypt
Those are both dual towers right?
abstract kite
Yep. Best in the game. Just having trouble figuring out which one to buy. Both can handle a 3950X, just curious which one is better by that slim margin
vapid crypt
Doubt it matters, but I've heard the Be Quiet one is well... aptly named 
fleet canopy
I mean, I guess it comes to preferences but I guess noctua exceeds very well for it
vapid crypt
Also I'm pretty sure they're both rated for like what 300TDP?
fleet canopy
I just see them as same performance imo
abstract kite
Noctua is a bit more expensive
vapid crypt
TBH there's a reason Noctua has threadripper version
fleet canopy
Kek
vapid crypt
Yeah AIOs are kinda over priced
abstract kite
BQ has a TR4 version of the DRP4 too
vapid crypt
Arctic has a really good 280 rad for like 100 though
fleet canopy
Yes
abstract kite
Anyways back on topic
vapid crypt
Speaking of Arctic, I feel like their coolers are underrated for the performance they offer
I don't think they have a dual tower cooler, except maybe the one they made for threadripper 
abstract kite
Noctua might have some ram clearance issues
I have Trident Z Neo
And its a big boi
A real big boi
vapid crypt
But the Freezer 34 eSports is really good, assuming their chart is to be believed it has comparable performance to both of those coolers https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-Freezer-eSports-DUO-Configuration/dp/B07MJGNJB3?th=1
While costing half as much? At least compared to the Noctua
abstract kite
200W TDP
Not bad
Hmmmmmmm
Ram clearance tho
I plan on upping to 64GB of Ram. Biggest issue is that would make me drop to one fan
vapid crypt
Scythe has coolers that slant the cooler in a way to fit over ram
merry bay
For just 3-4 years both should be fine enough.
abstract kite
I’m looking at these with a 3950X in mind. Probably wont upgrade again for 5-6 years with how good that chip is. 3700X is a placeholder for me to do my uni work well. Thats why I’m looking for a cooler that is really, really good.
vapid crypt
From what I've heard, the 3950x actually uses less power (therefore heat) than the 3900x
vapid crypt
But yeah this even works for a quad channel set up
late hollow
fleet canopy
Nice
late hollow
My first PC parts came
late hollow
In a few days
abstract kite
@late hollow make sure you put the mobo back in the anti static bag when you put it back in the box
Kind of a myth tbh but better safe than sorry
fleet canopy
Bag is much important
late hollow
i already did lol
abstract kite
👍
tidal sand
anyone mind helping me set up my elgato capture card to stream games from steam like gtfo, rainbow and tekken? Trying to use OBS
vapid crypt
Why do you need a capture card for that? Are you using a steam box or something?
merry bay
I would assume he wants as little load on his PC as possible. Despite streaming being pretty light on your system already.
vapid crypt
I've never used it personally, but I heard there's a plugin for OBS that allows capture from a different computer
wintry copper
been having a serious issue with a "backup" desktop since the day I bought it; still no fix. It's a good freakin pc. systemrequirementslab says it should be working flawlessly. But when i turn on a game it runs like absolute dog poo. Don't have exact details rn cuz its packed away but it was an $800 cyberpower. General question really not expecting component-specific answers. Your advice would be greatly appreciated
vapid crypt
Just a few questions, how old is it and what games did you try playing on it? And do you happen to know off the top of your head what processor it has? A fairly surprising problem people have had on here with poor performance in games was simply having the monitor/TV plugged into the motherboard output, which is integrated graphics typically running off of the processor; instead of being plugged into the graphics card.
ruby fossil
So I don't know to much about computers and I want to get the game, but I don't know if some of my stuff is good enough or if I should wait and upgrade things, because I want to play, but I don't want it to be laggy/glitchy/not good enough
Processor: AMD FX(tm)-4300 Quad-Core Processor 3.80 GHz
Installed RAM: 8.00 GB
64-bit operating system
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GT 730
I dunno if I'm missing something here or not
amber lodge
So my mouse is on it's way out and I want to get a newer type of it, but I haven't had any luck. It's a pretty standard mouse, the hp omen x9000, but the one thing about it that is a necessity is that the the two thumb buttons aren't next to each other horizontally, but they are in a way that there is one button above the thumb and one below. I love this design, but haven't been able to find any mice that have this without being crazy. Does anyone know anything similar to this that is pretty recent? Thanks
fleet canopy
It looks alright imo
ruby fossil
ah, thanks
fleet canopy
I'm not sure about the GPU, but you could do fine
ruby fossil
yeah, I've been meaning to upgrade it
fleet canopy
Have you already set what you wish to get or would you like a list?
ruby fossil
I haven't planned anything yet since I don't have to much cash to spend.
fleet canopy
You can always save it though
ruby fossil
yep, have been
fleet canopy
Do you have any money budget max?
ruby fossil
i have about 300 dollars total (like out of all my money)
fleet canopy
Eh, you can still save it lol
If you can save for like 500$, you could get a nice PC from sales
I'll give you a 700$ budget, does that sound okay?
ruby fossil
yeah
fleet canopy
Alright, cool
ruby fossil
thanks for all the help, had 2 4GB sticks around
ruby fossil
Just installed 12 more GB’s of RAM, on my phone right now.
Don’t gotta worry no more
I should be good
fleet canopy
Your motherboard might not really support 20GB...?
And putting mixed RAM sticks are not a good idea in general
Can be done, but still not the best idea
Aaaaanyway
This should be close to what you could get
Feel free to edit anything for your price preferences
It's what I'd go for, but you can go for this too https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kK7hjp
Cheaper by 150$ less than first one
Switched out the 580 with a 570
vapid crypt
Yeah the GPU for sure needs an upgrade
ruby fossil
The RAM sticks were from my brothers old pc which was the same as my computer now so the RAM should work, and thank you
I’ll be sure to look back at the list when I get to buying parts/thinking about it.
vapid crypt
Its not listed on PC part picker atm but there is a "1600 AF" part that AMD is making now that is on the 12nm process, effectively a lower binned 2600 without precision boost 2; about as capable too in terms of ocing I think. And its being sold for 85 bucks on amazon
fleet canopy
Looks interesting
But right away, it's saying it performs a teeny weaker than a 2600?
vapid crypt
Yeah that might be because it clocks lower, and it might not have the slight IPC improvement that the 2600 has. Which is like 3% or something?
fleet canopy
Eh
The price is 85$ compared to 2600's 105$
But you could possibly pick up a 2600 for 80$ even on a sale
Or lower
vapid crypt
Sure, at a Microcenter soon enough
fleet canopy
I mean, he could probably pick up the whole PC list for like 500$ if he's lucky
On a sale ofc
Unless it shows its age and goes like 350$
silver citrus
I plan to buy a new graphic card, even a new RAM card. But I have a question about the graphics cards I can buy at the same price level : Do you suggest buying an NVIDIA or an AMD for 400€/$ ?
worthy star
I have ordered my new machine just so i can get onto GTFO 😄
brisk badger
dedication
remote horizon
@silver citrus for 400€ you could get a 5700xt or 2060 Super
THe 5700xt will net better performance in general so that's my recommendation
silver citrus
Thanks ! 'Will check them out ! I still plan for an NVIDIA because my PC have one already, but I'll check the compatibilities !
brisk badger
Is that why nvidia has such a high market share?
Ur mainboard and CPU dont care whats used as GPU
As long as its no AGP card😂 (anyone remember times before PCIe? I feel old)
remote horizon
Because no competition until recently. AMD doesnt have a GPU above $400 (radeon vii was discontinued) so NVIDIA can price 2080ti whatever they want
AGP, fellow boomer 
brisk badger
yes and no. I think AMD always had good cards for midrange market (before 580rx, 480rx, fury (X), 280x/7970) but I also agree that nvidia has the better cards for highend (still do)
remote horizon
True, the RX series is still a good budget GPU
I think a lot of people are scared to try AMD products because they used to be "loud and hot"
brisk badger
I must say, I switched after the nvidia 9600GT to AMD and only their Fury X was crap IMO. The rest of the AMD cards were quiet, energy efficient and good fps. THe fury X was abandoned monster sadly. Payed lot of money for a card that received no love
I still have in a cellar running 6x 7970 cards that were used back in 2013 for mining 😂
remote horizon
worthy star
I got the RTX 2060 Super
At the moment nvidia gtx 1050 which handles games really well. must say can never go wrong with nvidia
rancid thorn
I play the game on a gtx 760 i5 2600 and it works quite well. I don't remember settings but I'm not in low
regal kite
i have an 17 9700k with 32 gigs of ram and an RTX 2070 SUPER
grand ivy
i haven an i9 9900k with 16gb and rtx 2080
remote horizon
Hope you got a 144 Hz monitor to catch all those frames 
spring stratus
hey guys do you think a uprade from i5 to i7 would be usefull?
remote horizon
If you are doing anything more than just gaming, then yes
remote horizon
True, i5 9600k to i7 9700k isn't a big jump at all
spring stratus
i5 4690k to i74790k
remote horizon
Then no. If you want an upgrade, go to a newer generation CPU instead
spring stratus
Ok, thanks for help
remote horizon
fleet canopy
32GB of ram is unnecessary
worthy star
How come? cause when im playing games like remnant etc ram usuage is very high
fleet canopy
How high?
ornate ginkgo
What games uses that much ram :'D
worthy star
at peak laptop only has 8gb
ornate ginkgo
Not even then :P
worthy star
I don't stream xD just gaming and playing videos on side screen xD
fleet canopy
It's still unnecessary though for 32GB
worthy star
Guess I went overkill, but surely not a bad thing to have more? lol
ornate ginkgo
Yeah a lot overkill :P
worthy star
@ornate ginkgo was due to get a new machine anyways and this is the build i went with lol
ornate ginkgo
hhe ^^
fleet canopy
I have like 24GB I had another stick that's 8GB, and I've never seen it go over 16GB like ever when I played games
dusty pumice
Its just depends whatever you do on a daily basis
fleet canopy
Yeah
dusty pumice
I already run on idle with 55% used of my ram memory
ornate ginkgo
atleast im glad you have just 2 ramsticks
dusty pumice
and i have 32GB in my second system
worthy star
Playing herores right now im at 88% usage
dusty pumice
I think with 16gb he gonna be fine
fleet canopy
That number won't change at all if you went with 16GB even
ornate ginkgo
But to have 16 is ok
worthy star
Well least ill have more than not enough 
fleet canopy
I mean, eventually games might use at least more than 16GB but still
It's way unnecessary for right now
dusty pumice
We will see DDR5 soon
fleet canopy
I wonder what's that gonna be like tbh
dusty pumice
Yup and what the prices are gonna be like
ornate ginkgo
DDR5? in germany we had 1 DDR... was enough :P
fleet canopy
A kidney to buy 16GB of DDR5
dusty pumice
Chinese are harvesting kidneys i heard
ornate ginkgo
🤔
dusty pumice
So they should be good to go
ornate ginkgo
But what to do if you can't afford the flight to china
ornate ginkgo
🤷♂️ win/win
fleet canopy
Sounds good if you like dying :)
abstract kite
Guys, best compatible motherboard for the Ryzen 7 3700X ?
crisp sage
Asus strix motherboards are great, in running a b350-f atm
abstract kite
@crisp sage Best compatible is a broad term. What exactly are you looking for?
I can recommend a few in certain price ranges
dusk delta
Wonder what y'alls thoughts are on the new Razer blade 15 w/ an i7-9750H CPU and RTX 2060 hooked up to an AORUS FI27Q-P 27" 165Hz 1440P monitor?
abstract kite
@abstract kite The MSI B450 Tomahawk Max is a good, cheap board if you’re looking for a budget option. Unlike other B450 boards, you won’t have to flash the BIOS for the board to be compatible with a Ryzen 3000 chip. It comes in at about $115 USD
You wont have PCI-e 4.0 however, so if you’re looking for something like that, you’ll need to buy an X570 board.
A good budget option for X570 is the ASUS TUF Gaming X570. X570 natively supports Ryzen 3000, so BIOS flashes aren’t needed. X570 chipsets are supposedly forwards compatible with Ryzen 4000 which will release later this year. This board comes in around $180 USD
I would personally go for the TUF board.
You get more for your money. Better VRMs, PCI-e 4.0, etc.
@dusk delta Can you send a link please?
abstract kite
Might go towards the X570 boards.
They never really were quality to begin with
Just for more future proofing i guess?
Thats a good idea AJ
fleet canopy
Razer isn't really that great
abstract kite
Razer Blade has been rubbish imo, since the beginning of their manufactuering
The TUF board has tons of potential
dusk delta
What kind of cons do they actually have, though and what're the pros and if it's worth the cons etc?
Seems nice for the portability and power to bring with you
abstract kite
General support is trash, quality is trash, and you can get more for your money elsewhere.
dusk delta
Any links to other places or recommendations?
abstract kite
dusk delta
Ive actually went with alien Ware first years ago. The laptop died within 6 months and went up in flames, literally. So I have issues trusting them again.
abstract kite
Alienware is “high end” DELL reskinned. I can’t recommend DELL to anyone as I’ve had way too many get trashed.
fleet canopy
That's either impressive, or just crappy care I think
kek
I'm not exactly good with laptops, haven't ever used them before
Like the gaming ones
abstract kite
Gaming laptops are really a hit or miss. Some love them, some hate them.
fleet canopy
I guess unless you have a reason for a laptop, don't ever get it kek
abstract kite
The inaccessibility of the parts and lack of upgradability topped with the premium you pay for the small form factor doesn’t add up imo
fleet canopy
Horrible unless you don't exactly stay at home often
dusk delta
Yeah, my problem is that desktops are too combersume to me. I move around alot due to work and I rather not have to worry about bringing around a tower with me.
fleet canopy
Ah ofc
abstract kite
I’m admittedly biased towards desktops, but I don’t blame anyone who wants a gaming laptop.
fleet canopy
I guess you can look up at PC Gamer threads
abstract kite
Then a laptop certainly makes sense for you Ankrauser
fleet canopy
They do reviews on whatever exists
abstract kite
The Zephyrus is a very, very, good laptop imo
dusk delta
I do have a nice laptop with a GTX 970M that's about 4 years old now, but I'm kind of being tempted to get something else now that I know they got stuff like the rtx 2000 series in 'em. Lol
The CPUs now a days for the i7s seem like decent enough upgrades, too but not sure.
abstract kite
A 2060 is really all you want in a laptop. Anything higher will get really, really hot.
Ryzen needs to get more into the laptop market. Intel right now can’t compare to AMD.
dusk delta
The i7-6700HQ seems like it's okay for most things still, though
abstract kite
I wouldn't even go for intel anymore
Ahh hold on
I think I found the perfect combo
After them refusing or neglecting to improve the security of their latest CPU's i've switched to AMD
Ahh yes
MDS attacks
Intel loves them
I like doing them too lol
Its stupid easy
lol
dusk delta
I've bee. Out if the market for so many years now so I'm not sure what's even good anymore. 7 years ago Intell was better than AMD, but if AMD is good now and is even better that's a thing I should look into.
abstract kite
If AMD is a 10 rn, Intel would be a 6
Thats how it looks
Yeah
Literally
AMD is something you should look into, more affordable / bang for your buck
I found this, but the storage is an issue imo
Literally the best cpu gpu combo for a laptop imo
dusk delta
Basically I'm just looking for something that's portable, laptop like, and has reliability to it to power a stronger a monitor than 1080p resolution and 120hz refresh .
abstract kite
especially at that price range
I'm just thinking about the possible need to flashback the bios for a R7 3700X, if I went for a MSI Gaming B450 Gaming Pro Carbon, would I need to flashback?
QHD higher than 120 at what settings?
Because you’ll probably need an 2070 for that
I don't really want to go through the whole process of flashing the bios and updating it to make it compatible for the 3rd gen ryzen 7
@abstract kite Yes you would need a BIOS flash
dusk delta
Something I can use to run a 1440p monitor on high or ultra settings in games.
dusk delta
Uhg.
abstract kite
Slim form factor isnt gonna cut it either
Bill, any recommendations for a MoBo that I wouldn't need to flash on for the 3rd gen r7
Or would I need to flash every mobo out there
Any X570 board wont need a bios flash.
I recommend the ASUS TUF gaming X570. Best midrange board.
Not too bad for my currency too
£163
Plus you get PCIE 4.0 too
dusk delta
Hmm what kind of specs would be needed for that?
abstract kite
Ryzen 7 or intel i7 (i9 preferably) and at minimum an RTX 2070.
dusk delta
Jeez didn't realize there's i9s out there now
fleet canopy
Really?
dusk delta
Yeah I haven't looked into tech for a setup in around 5 years now.
abstract kite
i7 desktop is 8 core 8 thread, i9 desktop is 8 core 16 thread. Both use old ass 14nm architecture
Ryzen 7 is 8 core 16 thread with 7nm architecture
Laptop processors only go up to 6 core iirc
lol
I think the i7-9700H or whatever its called is a 6 core chip
dusk delta
Would the Ryzen 7 in a laptop only be 6 cores too?
abstract kite
I heard i'd need atleastt 3400mhz on my DDR4 to efficiently run my Ryzen 7 3700x, any idea if this is true?
Ryzen 7 in laptops are 4 core 8 thread. Thats where architecture comes into play. Ryzen is technically better because it’s 7nm
fleet canopy
Pretty sure only difference to CPU cores would be their given number
The letters are just how you can use em
abstract kite
^
dusk delta
The lower the architecture the better? What is that exactly ?
abstract kite
Processor architecture is a fluid term mainly for comparisons. A core is made up of transistors. The smaller the transistors, the more efficient (generally) it will be.
dusk delta
So that 6 core 8 threads would be better than a 6 core 12 threads?
abstract kite
No no thread count is different than architecture
12 threads are better than 8. Think of it like multitasking.
An 8 core processor can do “eight” things at once
An 8 core processor with 16 virtual cores (threads) can do “sixteen” things at once.
Of course its doing way more than that, but thats a simple analogy.
fleet canopy
But there's really not needing to have threads be important. It's mainly core, the newer manufacturing, and idfk
abstract kite
Frequency is also another factor
But all this is really unnecessary knowledge to the average consumer
fleet canopy
Yeah, the higher the frequency, the faster it does it
dusk delta
That kind of makes it sound like the i7-9750H would be preferable over a Ryzen 7 3750H?
abstract kite
As I said though, architecture (the size of the transistors) plays a part in the efficiency of the chip.
In a laptop application, they’re pretty much dead even. One with 6c 12t and 14nm, the other with 4c 8t and 7nm
Ryzen works on their microchips in house though unlike Intel, so with Ryzen you dont have to worry about MDS attacks.
microchip ≠ processor
A laptop is pretty susceptible to MDS attacks since its out in public. Just dont let anyone you dont know around your computer with a USB stick.
All it takes is one unprivileged line of code and boom
Yup. A simple BIOS hack and they can get into your microchip, drop off zombieload, and gather information using RIDL.
RIDL and Hashcat work hand in hand tbh I love and hate it
RIDL grabs hashes, Hashcat cracks em.
And that kids is why intel sucks.
Just my opinion lol
lol
the i5-6600 was cool while it lasted
I had a 6600K
But it's time to get the Ryzen 7 3700x
Nice chip
Will be getting it at the end of the month hopefully, depending on my paycheck from work
Seems a lot of people move from the 6600 to the 3700X.
Hope you can get the 3700X brother! I’m waiting to get another one since my first one was a dud.
Also have to get a new motherboard, but the one I’m trying to get wont be back in stock till the 18th. I’m stuck on a laptop till I can get my PC back up and running. It’s in shambles now
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Jesus, how comes
abstract kite
Eh. Stuck in boot loop. Code 64: CPU DXE initialization. Either motherboard or cpu was a dud.
Code 64, sounds like you need to flash the Bios?
or am I wrong there
3800X is dumb over 3700X. Unless you get it for a good price
No it was driver failure
Oh right
Bios was good
http://prntscr.com/qjinn0 - £30 for roughly 300mhz more of clock speed
They say the 3700x has more value / sentiment behind it
and plus, you can get a weaker PSU with the 3700x as the TDP is what, around 65w idle?
Cant recommend them anymore. Kinda sucks. I liked that boards goodies.
You get about 7% more performance for $30 more. Not worth ino.
Eh
I had a top of the line gigabyte board.
I've read that even these are not suitable for gaming/streaming which is weird
Oh man
discord being wack hang on
np. ctrl+r
What ctrl r?
fleet canopy
Restart discord
abstract kite
Did
Also in a deadspot rn
So yea
Reception sux
big rips
The 3700X is a 65W TDP chip
yea
Impressive
3800X is a 105W TDP
i believe
so really
Mhm
if you're going 30$ more, be ready to buy a 50W+ PSU
That extra umph gets like 200mhz
hm
Not sure how useful that would be for now
I have a 850W in my PC. lol
fleet canopy
No good tbh
fleet canopy
Just stick with 3700X unless of course, sale
abstract kite
I see
Pulls less from the wall actually
If I can get the 3800 or 3900x for cheap i will
and relaly?
Yup yup!
I've always thought, higher the PSU the more Power draw
Damn, you just taught me a lesson
That depends on how much the PCs parts are drawing. Since the PSU has higher rated hardware its more efficient.
fleet canopy
fleet canopy
So I can see that not much difference in power draw with higher PSU wattage
abstract kite
Can't even remember what PSU i've had for the last 4 years
fleet canopy
But you say something about the difference of watt usage on CPU?
fleet canopy
It's a uhh
abstract kite
should i print screen?
abstract kite
for $7 more get the 850W
fleet canopy
Full modular
fleet canopy
Yeah, don't skimp on it :)
abstract kite
sure manm
it's more future proofing I guess lol
Corsair hired the king of PSUs back in 2018, so their quality is super good
Cant remember his name, but he knows how to stress a PSU.
fleet canopy
I always recommend at least 300W than the watt usage in total said by PCPP
fleet canopy
Better to have more if you can get it really good price though
Never have to switch it out until it shits on you
abstract kite
PCPP doesnt take into account fan draw and all that stuff
fleet canopy
Yeah but it's not too much tbh
abstract kite
roughly, im looking at 339 IDLE
but im gonna estimate at idle load i'll be on around 400w
850W is certainly enough. lmao
fleet canopy
Then get like 750 or 850W
abstract kite
Under load i'll probaly be around 550-600
yeah
I'm going to go for the 850w bc i didnt realise it was only £5 more
Its a steal tbh
I was going with a 750W myself until I saw the price of the 850W and went 👀
lol
Literally.
YEA THAT
When the Ryzen 7 3700X goes up in price by $10 
fleet canopy
10$ more doesn’t seem too much
abstract kite
Any increase of price, just hurts my heart.
I’m having to spend more on my next one since I’m not going to use the same company so 🙃
Mines gonna be a $40 premium
I've got amazon prime, so it'll be a prime service shipping for me
I had a 30 day trial, let 2 days pass, went to go cancel my prime sub, and i got another 30 days for free.. 
I wish it was in stock on Amazon US hahaahahaaaaa cries
Now that’s smart.
fleet canopy
Good if the shipping is fucking 1000$
fleet canopy
Yeah if you find the earphones that’s priced 14K USD, it’s 1K for shipping
fleet canopy
Plus I think tax was like 500$
abstract kite
Depends on the state yea
man ngl, the packaging for the intel i9K's looks so cool lol.
fleet canopy
Ye
abstract kite
Thats what the $100 premium is for 😉
lol
that makes it 450
I like the hexagonal packaging man
fleet canopy
But what about the new amd box
abstract kite
the threadripper boxes 
AMD’s Threadripper 3000 soap dispenser?
Kek
LOL
TR 2000 had best box
The Threadripper 3990X is going to be 64 cores
Jesus
Omg imagine the NUMA DOMAINS BRUH
48 or 64 cores, overkill for my CSGO / Apex Legends / PUBG / GTFO + Stream
pant
fleet canopy
Honestly the new TR box has easier opening I heard
abstract kite
how many processes lol
fleet canopy
But we know best is ryzen
abstract kite
Take a 3990X, make two numa domains. two 32c partitions oml
Hehehe
man
Run a minecraft server with half the chip and play on it with the other lol
What the hell, this is from 2 years ago
iron trellis
I have question is it ok to leave my computer on the carpet
vapid crypt
Depends, is the power supply of the computer mounted on the bottom and is it's fan facing down?
crisp sage
GTFO seems to commit kamikaze on its frames whilst dealing with hordes (40fps) any known fix?
brisk badger
Hey nerds.
I made for my gameserver a realtime performance statistics page. I thought to share it with you as you like DATA :)
https://performance.playground.apheriox.com
(Yea the site has no responsive and sadly I cannot do that as the framework won't allow me to or better it's not intended to be used as website. Works best with full hd resolution)
Also you can find the beauty of a "highly" overclock CPU that is also utilizing adaptive voltages
vapid crypt
I tend to get pretty big dips with hordes from what I recall, dunno if it ever got as low as 40 though. Not something I really tracked, nor do I know if there's a way to improve it
dusk delta
What do you guys use to see your fps?
brisk badger
Steam's ingame FPS counter (found in the options)
vapid crypt
Either the steam overlay, or MSI afterburner (Rivatuner) if I want more detail regarding clocks, temps and so on
merry bay
@brisk badger What CPU is that? I expected voltages to bump up even higher under load, but 5.2 is impressive.
fleet junco
NEEEEEEEEEEERDS
merry bay
You're associating yourself with nerds right now 
brisk badger
@merry bay it's a 7700k. not the newest anymore but does a good job running a singlethread application 😄
merry bay
I guess that's how you keep it alive at 5.2, never fully utilized
brisk badger
it is stable with 5.2ghz on all cores but it's rarely used fully, mostly only 2 threads
with disabling all power savings totally and using manual voltages 5300mhz is even possible but I don't think it's worth
i have managed to 'kill' some cpu's with too aggressive voltages, so I do now only work with adaptive or offset ones
merry bay
Quite a healthy sample you got there. Constant manual voltages really are CPU killers, especially if you're pushing high clocks.
I got unlucky with a 4790K from eBay that came from someone just described. Can't even run turbo frequencies without 1.38. Have to clock it below turbo with high voltages just so it doesn't crash
brisk badger
i also had an intel 4th gen, this is where I had made bad experience with high voltages.
Also have a 4690k lying around, needs 1.28v to run on stock frequencies. really bad. Then I have an intel 2nd gen which run for like 6 years with 1.4v fine and has no electro migration compared to the 4th gen
the 4th gen cpu's was really sensitive regarding voltages. I used 1.35 - 1.425v for them and some really got hurt in the longrun
1.38 is very high 😦
merry bay
Settled for near stock speeds with roughly similar voltages. Used it for a couple months and got sick of occasional bluescreens. Invested in a 9700K new and treating it with love and care.
Second gen Ryzen was still very fresh at the time, but I'd still wouldn't go for it because high refresh rate 1080p is a priority for me.
brisk badger
did you oc the 9700k? if yes at what frequency you run it at? and what can one expect of oc results? like the 7th gen hit very easy 5ghz (flashback times from golden 2nd gen intel series)
merry bay
I'm very happy with it just boosting to 4.6-4.8 already. (nearly stock settings)
I should really take the time to adjust things for less heat and maybe make profiles for times I'd want a little more performance.
Biggest deterrent from messing around with it was the Gigabyte AORUS BIOS
5GHz is no effort at all, but I don't know if it's sensors being screwy or if the CPU doesn't show when individual cores have different speeds.
Setting 2-4 cores to run faster, actually boosts every core for short durations.
grand ivy
What kind of a grbage i7 9700k you got that only boosts to 4.8 when it boosts to 4.9 wi thout doing anything in bios
merry bay
Without doing anything in bios it only did 4.6
I have no need to go higher, except 1-2 games I've yet come around to starting a playthrough.
That's an all-core boost I have on constantly, without C states. Consistency is more important to me than short boost windows.
Clocking it down when I know I won't be playing any games for the day.
late hollow
So,I have 2400 kit of Corsair vengeance lpx ram(2 sticks of 8 gigabytes),will it pair well with a ryzen 3 1300x?
I can tell you cash latency if you want
fleet canopy
16GB 2400MHz kit?
late hollow
Ye
fleet canopy
And you have a 1300X?
Ryzen has a need for RAM to be like a recommended of 3000MHz 16CAS for some reason, but I'm sure you can run it well
fleet canopy
If you want, but I wouldn't mind it too much tbh
late hollow
Ah ok
fleet canopy
Nice
coral sand
fleet canopy
Hah
abstract kite
So both of my displays went out twice in the span of two hours... I had Steam Open, I was playing Factorio. I Was on Chrome watching videos. I had my Radeon Tuning Software up and Discord. The Screens would freeze for less than a second and than both Inputs would go out, however audio was still playing though my headset. This was both instances.
@coral sand Join the senko creed :3
abstract kite
@abstract kite That’s most likely a graphics driver issue.
Hmmm
Download DDU and wipe the drivers
https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html
You can then reinstall the latest drivers in case there was a mistake during the installation.
My GPU is Up to date
If there was a flaw in the installation, it can mess up your GPU big time
Do a clean uninstall with DDU, and then reinstall the drivers
that could solve the issue
Wouldn't uninstalling my Drivers Stop stop my Displays?
No. Your displays will still work
I’ve reinstalled GPU drivers multiple times.
It doesnt ruin the display
Hm
Others are also saying that they are experiencing the same issues with this 2020 driver
AMD GPU drivers are wack
imo
If you can, download the last driver of 2019.
And see if you have the same issue
Yeah, think I should roll back
I’d still recommend a clean wipe and install
😉
I'm unfamiliar with DDU..
And a bit afraid I'm gonna do something wrong 
Its simple to use. Just select your graphics card from the drop down menu on the right, then click clean uninstall
I may have some of the names wrong since I don’t have a PC rn to confirm those are the steps, so if you can, screenshot the window and post it here
Think I am going to do that Bil because a few reasons....
(Even though I cannot read the language... I can follow the buttons....)
And....
Like fuck, AMD do you guys do QA before Release??
AMD makes great CPUs
Their GPUs are still
ehh
work in progress
They can Thread Rip the competition away, but their updates suck.
Thats AMD for ya lol
They made the Threadripper than made a i9 its like they are using the CPUs to destroy the CPUs
Thanos must be running this company
All CPUs bring is temptation.
The 3950X is godly and I would kill for a 3970X lmao
Both are fantastic chips
Heck, anything in their lineup right now is a bargain
What that I7?
I’ll have the same CPU (again) once I get my new board
Ah I have the 3700
Its a great chip
hands down
I just want to play my games in peace 
Watch Anime
fleet canopy
Hm
abstract kite
Whats up?
fleet canopy
Nothing 
late hollow
Hm should I za wauldo amd into some good qa?
grand ivy
@abstract kite no, if you buy a i7 9700k it comes with a guaranteed speed of 4.9ghz out of box
merry bay
It only boosts one core to 4.9GHz out of the box.
I was talking about all-core 4.6GHz
high umbra
anyone know if the game will be able tor un better for a bit lower end computers later on?
vapid crypt
Define lower end computers
remote horizon
I would expect the minimum requirements to stay the same even as the game is optimized
abstract kite
@grand ivy When did Intel ever actually guarantee absolutes instead of half truths?
Its a single core 4.9Ghz OC
All core 4.8 isnt bad, but admittedly not the best either
remote horizon
Did you see what Intel calls thermal velocity boost on their new desktop lineup? Single core boost to 5.3ghz, biggest gimmick if I heard one
abstract kite
Intel has been sandbagging and short changing since Ivy Bridge. Anyone who says they’re a reputable company is fooling themselves.
brisk badger
x86 processors can you die finally?
abstract kite
Heh
brisk badger
I think there is better options , especially for the future.
Also these "turbo boost" modes feel much more of a marketing move than it is inovation
like, it's very difficult to get a turbo boost for only one thread, mostly more are utilized
grand ivy
Just wait you all can buy your 3950 toasters and then when intel releases something you'll cry
brisk badger
I am sitting on my 4790k and I don't plan to upgrade for the next years
median moon
bro 3700X gang
grand ivy
Nice
median moon
go away
brisk badger
dunno, I am a computer scientist but I don't need all that "extra power"
abstract kite
Someone is salty.
3950 requires less power than a 3900X
Whats your point, @grand ivy
brisk badger
instead of making new cpu's we should find all developers still releasing singlethreaded applications in 2020 and put them into jail
grand ivy
relax in 6 months its obsolete
median moon
the next threadripper will have 64 cores
brisk badger
good luck finding an application using only half of it lol
median moon
well i mean
minecraft with ultra shaders bro . . .
Titan RTX+ required or you're bust
brisk badger
minecraft is a singlethreaded application 😄
ivory comet
Imagine buying a 5000 dollar machine for minecraft
median moon
The joke is that-
ivory comet
That's some galaxy brain shit
abstract kite
Well I’ll agree, it’s not the best CPU. Technology changes quickly.
However, technology companies are usually producing items 3-5 years in advance. So, if intel had anything to counter Ryzen, they would have released it by now. Most likely we’ll get teasers for new Intel chips at Computex this year, but I don’t think Intel will catch back up to AMD quickly.
Regardless what side your on, competition is healthy. It produces the best results for the consumer.
grand ivy
wooza I wasnt talking to you I was talking to bill
since Im so salty that amd has new processors
abstract kite
That was also a joke, Z
brisk badger
😛
median moon
intel is gonna need a long time to catch up with ryzen
like a long time
this was unprecedented to say the least
abstract kite
I believe in the best interest of the consumer, and so far Intel doesn’t have that in mind.
grand ivy
the fact that you're tryna say its a joke means you aint got anything on intel
brisk badger
I think Intel did some good stuff e.g: Core2Duo/quad, Intel Core seriens 2nd gen series but what followed after that was just crap
median moon
^
brisk badger
None of you had to work probably with VIA processors hehe
abstract kite
Z, I’ve given you examples why I believe AMD is a better choice at this point in time in the market.
If you can’t give me any reasoning, and instead give simple rebuttals, there’s no discussion here.
You have no ground to stand upon, but your own biased opinion.
Case. Closed.
grand ivy
oh yeah it has 30 cores and so on more but then you'll never use them and spend 300€ extra on a processor you will never fully utilize and have 30 fps lower in games
makes so much sense to buy it
median moon
🦠
brisk badger
tbh we should be mad at both companies for what happened with spectre/meltdown
median moon
Yes.
grand ivy
but hey lets just focus on how fast it can render 4k footage
brisk badger
z/3 I have to admit, the IPC of the new AMD cpu's is quite good. Yea many cores, probably too many for most users but the performance per core is still okay/good
for gaming purposes intel probably will still lead, especially since it's easier to OC less cores
abstract kite
This is the final time I’m going to respond Z, then I’m going to stop discussing this. We’re going nowhere, and I’d rather spend my time doing something more worthwhile than discussing semantics that you can look up on the internet.
If gaming is all you care about. Sure, go with the i9. But any other productivity task, at all, is better on Ryzen. That’s not bias, that’s a fact.
Working people do a lot more than game. Video editing, music production, photography, home servers... All of these take advantage of the technology Ryzen provides.
I’m involved with the computer industry myself, and I run multiple Linux VMs in Windows. I can take advantage of Ryzen’s potential doing so and to a much better degree than Intel.
As I previously said, I want the best for the consumer. If Intel provides overall (that means not just gaming) a better processor in the future, I will recommend Intel.
I dislike Intels practices
But if they’re the better deal
They’re the better deal.
However, they’re not at this point in time.
brisk badger
I had a client that wanted a 32core cpu as server for his companie's mail server. He has around 1000-2000 SMTP connections per day and the CPU has a max load of 0.08% when 1 equals 100% load 😄
I wish I could install a CPU miner on that machine but I would lose my job probably haha
yea as power user more cores are surely fine
although I run 2 debian VM's on a single thread and it works for me (poor me)
vapid crypt
I'm sorry to say but the 9900k is using more power and generating more heat than AMD's 16 core (when oc'd). All because they've been using the same 14nm process and just refining it for around 5 years now. Don't get be wrong its a great processor, but certainly not for the money and not at the cost of higher power use and thermals. Unless the price was extremely competitive: There's no good reason to recommend Intel's current offerings, even gaming while they are better its really not much better and only apparent with the highest end graphics cards at what 1440p and lower? We're talking 10% maybe 15% best case and that's only when you're using the best of the best 2080TI/Titan whatever.
median moon
3600X or 9900KF
vapid crypt
Those are at completely different price categories though
median moon
i know 👁️
though i'm not sure if i should invest in intel or just run a budget amd processor
b/c i don't plan on doing much besides gaming on my build
vapid crypt
Their next desktop release is gonna be sometime this year, its still the same refined process and they're increasing core counts by 2 and adding hyperthreading across the product stack
median moon
nice, but core count shouldnt really matter for a raw gaming pc
vapid crypt
So the i7s are effectively gonna be the same as the 9900, the i5s are gonna have thread parity with AMD's R5s
Mainly the core increase is just for the i9, now its gonna be a 10 core
But finally the entire stack is gonna have hyperthreading, so 12 thread i5s which we should have seen a long time ago. Also I would hope competitive pricing
If you're considering a 9900k will you be getting a really high end graphics card as well?
mellow arrow
can i get some help deciding on an m.2 ssd over a standard ssd? i want to know the pros and cons
vapid crypt
So to be clear m.2 is a form factor, there are m.2 ssds that utilize the same Sata speeds that usual ssds use. But typically what people get are what is called NVME m.2 SSDs, these are anywhere from 3 - 4 times faster
mellow arrow
so i should get it
vapid crypt
And really its worth it for like a boot drive for your OS
mellow arrow
there are no cons over the standered ssd?
vapid crypt
But in say like games, there isn't a significant difference
mellow arrow
would two m.2 be overkills then
vapid crypt
Right now the prices are very comparable, like I got a 1tb 660p from Intel for less than 100 might be less right now
vapid crypt
Its slower than samsung's NVMEs but compared to Sata its blazing fast
grand ivy
trust me if you gonna buy a nvme m2 you're gonna want to buy the samsung one, yes you're paying a lil extra for the brand but its soo much faster
vapid crypt
If you're gonna get a boot drive, grab a 250gb around that size for your OS; if you can get a good deal on another NVME at a higher cap for like games then sure go for it; otherwise just get a regular sata one. And honestly regular hard drives for games aren't usually bad. Especially if the drive is dedicated to just doing that
mellow arrow
can i send links?
vapid crypt
Sure
late sorrel
and I'm gunna make it my boot, but at the moment it has games that take ages to load on them
mellow arrow
late sorrel
See GTFO/Destiny/R6S/Space Engin eers
mellow arrow
this i what i was going for
vapid crypt
Sabrent makes some comparable NVMEs to Samsung at way lower prices from what I recall
grand ivy
I saw a video where os loaded 0.27 secs faster on a m2 than on a ssd
late sorrel
it is a better connection technically
grand ivy
so I would buy a cheap small ssd for os and buy a big and fast m2 for games
mellow arrow
@grand ivy i see it the otherway
late sorrel
b/c it's based on pci-e, has a better bandwith and something else
I mean, the technology is the same
it's just which connector
mellow arrow
what about life span?
grand ivy
0.27 secs tho I mean you cant see the difference
vapid crypt
I've always heard there's like no big difference in games, but loading the OS off of a NVME is gonna speed the system up over all; not just booting into it
late sorrel
I've heard similar
mellow arrow
so in my pcpartpicker build take off the seccond ssd
just run the m2 and the 6tb
?
mellow arrow
if its ltt il be dead XD
vapid crypt
What are you gonna be doing with this pc?
mellow arrow
everything XD
vapid crypt
I see, could you be a little specific?
grand ivy
that would be so funny 😄
vapid crypt
Yeah I could see the benefit in having the NVME then, you could have the temp video files loading from there; then transfer it to the hard drive. But you know what you could then benefit from pcie gen 4 then, you get some crazy fast speeds
mellow arrow
@vapid crypt you need some faster hands XD
vapid crypt
Oh I'm perfectly fast I just either make mistakes for like to read over and change some words around
mellow arrow
pcie?
grand ivy
he was thinking how to say it prolly
mellow arrow
what do you mean by that
late sorrel
lmao what a mood demonio
mellow arrow
like an ssd off a pcie?
late sorrel
that's me too
vapid crypt
So PCI express that's the interface NVMEs, graphics cards and other various things utilize
vapid crypt
Gen 4 is the latest version, offers increased bandwidth and speeds
vapid crypt
M.2 utilizes PCI express in a different form factor yes
And right now AMD's latest desktop products is the only platform offering gen 4 speeds, so its something to consider especially if you are editing high resolution videos
vapid crypt
4k
late sorrel
fast speed
mellow arrow
ok im not going that far
vapid crypt
Are you running 1080p displays?
vapid crypt
Very nice
vapid crypt
Heard those Oleds are pretty great
mellow arrow
i know is so nice i have it on my phone
late sorrel
I think I looked into them and they're good, just that they wear out
mellow arrow
i want it on a full 24 in so bad
vapid crypt
They only have it in TVs right now right?
mellow arrow
no
late sorrel
na
mellow arrow
few moniters have it
late sorrel
phones have them for sure
mellow arrow
shit for gaming tho
vapid crypt
Why's that?
mellow arrow
they have like 160 ms delsy
late sorrel
mm
mellow arrow
old info so maybe better now
vapid crypt
Huh
mellow arrow
so im planing on getting that and a 1080 244 hz
late sorrel
it's the future, it's just not here yet
mellow arrow
yea give it time oled 4k will be the norm
i have another q does an on board capture card work better then a normal one?
egato mainly
vapid crypt
On board like PCI-E instead of USB. Yeah there's almost no latency with that
late sorrel
yea
merry bay
Why would latency be a concern for recordings?
mellow arrow
so? like what XD
merry bay
I mean, isn't it the same stream, just getting recorded a tad bit later
late sorrel
nope
grand ivy
the stream wont see it just you
mellow arrow
i mean not like im saying an 8 core 5 hz gonna have a prob recording and streaming at 1080 but
grand ivy
the game gets recorded virtually as it happens for the computer so it all depends on the peoples own screens
vapid crypt
Are you using a different computer for the capture?
vapid crypt
Then I don't understand how that's gonna help anything with cpu load
mellow arrow
like to get recording off that as well
i havnt looked into is buch but i figured it does all the capturing and rendering
am i wrong with that assumption?
vapid crypt
I don't believe that's how that works no, but Nvida does have a video encoder that puts that load onto the graphics card
merry bay
Isn't the whole point of a capture card for PC is to offload most of the workload on it? I don't know myself, but that's the only appeal besides getting a hold of console footage or something.
late sorrel
NVENC
mellow arrow
does msi have something similar?
merry bay
Or well, capture the screen
mellow arrow
i got an msi 2080
vapid crypt
2080 Super is an Nvidia video card
MSI is the board partner that provided the custom pcb and cooler
late sorrel
the super has nvenc iirc
mellow arrow
tinted mate i have no clue what that means XD
late sorrel
don't know if the regular has nvenc or not
it's the card
"2080" vs "2080 Super"
the super has the fancy renderer
vapid crypt
NVENC is Nvidia's video encoder
mellow arrow
to late
mellow arrow
almost got the ti the seller talked me out tho