#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk
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you can't get worse unless you go out of your way to do it
as for 590 vs 5500, the 5500 is a cut down card even if newer gen, it should generally edge it out barely
Ah okay
to make things simpler 1070 is generally quicker than 2060 even if older gen.
It's basically a 580 or a 590 with GDDR6 instead of GDDR5
with the 5500xt it has anemic and bad 128bit bus found on lower end cards
590 has a full fat 256bit bus
Yeah
so even if they both have the same cores, same clocks, same VRAM
So pretty much always go for the 5500XT if you're thinking of getting something similar to 580
Because it's the same price
a 256bit bus will shit all over a 128bit bus
generally if you're looking at cards the newer generations cards trade blows with the older generations cards that were one tier above but do not beat them unless the games require a newer feature set
580 or 590 to a 5500 is NOT an upgrade, it's a side grade that will often perform worse
just as gtx 1070 to RTX 2060 is a side grade. It will perform worse in RTX games but better in games that need more VRAM or memory bandwidth
What about the 1080ti vs the 2080?
Why are PC parts so expensive
Actually right now most of them are fairly cheap
Compared to previous years for what you get
Cough Cough krypto
Cries in Australian
high end components have always been expensive
standard PCs in the 90s used to cost 2k+
but that was with less inflation too
Remember when RAM literally cost an arm and a leg.
Wack
RAM 
I have one stick
Single Channel 
F
F
Yeah I have a 570 rn and I looked at the 5500XT and I was eh about it
like, the only thing that makes sense for me to upgrade to is a 5700XT/2070S or higher
if you want a real upgrade from a rx570, a 2060 super or 5700 (non xt) are really good mid range cards
tru
But the price of the 5700XT is great
or what you said for if you are a couple hundred more bucks to spend
but I might as well go for the apple basket
Only like 50$ more than a 5700 if I remember correctly
Like, the rx570 is lovely
the 5700xt is great, I have one 
Still can play all games
I can lower settings a bit and make the most out of my 144hz monitor

5700XT will be much better choice anyways
but yeah, If I was spending the money it would be w/ a job (I’m a minor) so I might as well spend the extra hours working for a 5700XT
Yeah, you wont regret it once you are playing 1080p 144Hz, max settings 
yee
Kek
Tbh I’d go for a 2k monitor if I had the 5700xt
really makes the difference
2k to 4k is stupid tho
yea well this is fantasy for me rn :(
That’s what I’d do thou
5700XT and a 1440p 144hz monitor
Thats a great deal on a monitor tbh
200$ or lower on 1080p 144hz is great
1440p 144hz for 250$ is epic, I don't see them with 1ms too often
If you get a TN panel 1 ms is ez
Yeah
but who wants TN in 2019 
I need IPS panel with 250 nits brightness for the movies I dont watch and the pictures I dont edit 
ROG 
I have an all rog build so
They have a 1920x1080p 144hz for fucking god damn 350$ fuck them
overkill 
ROG is like going bow hunting with your friends. But you bring a 5k usd hunting rifle
If you have the money why not treat yourself, not saying it’s for everyone my guy
Nooooo
But nah
It’s not overkill if you actually use it for the docs they are
Everything has an application
It's just not worth it imo
2080Ti waterblock edition
I have dual rtx 2080ti matrix in sli 
sli 
Works for computational work
Yes
Sli noises
But sli still dead
Ight your point then?
assuming most people here are just gamers
SLI? More like crossfire
And im here for the awareness
Don’t assume before you know the full picture
I’m just saying my specs
That’s all
They are cool
I literally started by memeing
yea that was the problem, confused me
I mean, we are memeing too
yea
The headset though 
what I would get if I was pushing for that
maybe not the peripherals, but that’s just preference anyway
Very tempted to switch for full on AMD though
That’s without the cards
I mean
It’s the Ks version couldn’t find on pcparts
They might pull out a really good AMD GPU outta their asses
I have both but got better performance with the ks for my work
With the cards that’s probably another $4k
Look at the list when it was created, it was not listed then and too lazy to change 😭

hard charger
500$?
Near 600 iirc
Idk I’m thinking of prices when I got it, maybe it went down
when the 3950x gets more in stock, i'll get one 
Dude, 3rd party retailer on newegg has one for 1200$ 
Yeah amazon sucks
Amazon doesn't suck, it's just got stupid ass 3rd party money hungry assholes
Y'all are rich as fuck
1250$ for 3950X on Amazon, picking the highest priced retailer
990$ for lowest
And I'm not rich 
Just budgeting for what really matters 
imagine saving for 2 years to get roasted
Just waiting to get a 3700X and 16/32GB 3200MHz re
my bad wrong person
your PC will be smooth af
Imagine not having 32Gb 4133MHz 17-17-17-37
For 16Gb is like $2K
Yeah, I saw the 5ghz ram, seems pretty cool
all that money for minecraft
waiting for ddr5 🙂
5GHz RAM? Hm
F
RAM, put in a PCie slot
I don't know
That ROG build ain't all ROG
That looks like a fucking old thing though
For the fact it has a slot
Those buses are actually trash
lol of course it'd be
240gb?
RAM and storage is kinda limited to manufactures and when I went for this build I tried my best to stay limited to ROG but ram and storage I really needed reliability
what do you do with you pc?
Non gaming stuff
Now I have a 970 2Tb pro edition ssd and 870 4tb
Those things are so reliable man and the speeds are nuts
did you just google this?
Gaussian molecular kinetics and schrodinger molecular docking when I work from home
What?
No I work in pharmaceutics
chicken butt
I work in Drug discovery division so yeah I need it, my job paid for half of the build
You should ask them for a threadripper 🙂
Intel, hm
Threadripper 3970X has almost twice the workstation performance of a 9980XE or so I've checked
Yeah its killer
Personally I don’t need anything that crazy
If it’s over 1Gb I just send it over to our super computers
Haha
Sometimes when I’m not in the mood to wait I just use my edu login to IBM quantum and use that instead 

Kek
The funny thing is that I don’t even know the language I just use python
lmao
@pastel cave Who's "our"?
The company’s
Like "our supercomputers"
I mean i work for them so I becomes our by association
Yesterday i was playing with my friends, and i was surprised that our characters were talking. Commenting on things, saying to be careful and such. Just like in trailer. Not just moan when they are down. But on the next run they again were all silent. Is this a bug?
???
any recommendations for a good gaming laptop. Something 1000 or below. Trying to find something for the wife
she wants something to use around the house or from the couch, figure a laptop would be a good choice
What kind of games does "she" play
nothing too demanding. Really into sims 4, raft. would love to get her into GTFO but she doesn't like scary stuff
i see what you did there groundus lol
I mean to begin with gaming on a laptop under 1000 euro is not recommended atleast i would never do so
its a little over 1k but not by much
@dense cosmos is a good start for me thanks
Im just interrested to know what kind of games are being played
ahh sorry
is cool. I appreciated the feed back.
but it runs thoose games if your wondering
Yeah if its for work and or college / studying and gaming combined
thats more than what she need, i wonder if she would be into autoworlds but at least she can look into something a little more demanding if she wants
Then a Laptop is a good choice but otherwise i think its just not smart to go for a gaming laptop under 1000
Why not just get her a console?
@dusty pumice i feel you buts is her choice, as saucy said destops are not for everyone. I love my pc but i play everything so i need the power.
Im not only talking about desktops
Im just trying to think about a good alternative
she has a ps4
I mean if she wants to go for a gaming laptop why dont you guys just safe up a bit more money
dont you think it would be wasting money for someone that is casual on pc gaming
Ofcourse
thats why i would recommend a console or tablet or ipad over a gaming laptop
so wouldnt a laptop be a nice middleground
Even a phone would be better
So many casual games that can be played there
these days
uhh yea but you cant play most games on a phone
i appreciated the opinion but cant say i fallow your logic
Not the ones she wants no
but she can do it on a console
but is simply to lazy to move it to the other room or doesnt have a big enough monitor or tv there?
plus (no ofense) but mobile games are trash
^
their filed to the brim with ads and their all the same
Honestly a console is just as easily moved as a laptop
right but ts a console
Yeah?
If she waits a couple of years she can go wild on the game streaming services
I think is just a difference of opinions, still thanks for the info guys
Where all companys are investing big money into now
Maybe it is but i stil think its kinda a waste of money to go on and buy a cheaper laptop which can have alot of problems in the future
my bother has had that laptop for like 2 years now and it runs like a gem
Yeah if you do some decent research you can find some pretty good ones
Maybe @abstract kite or @fleet canopy can help out with this laptop question
@dusty pumice Whats the question?
Not for me
@warped tendon Wants help with advice for buying a laptop @abstract kite
Gotcha
He basicly said spending more than the 1000 is kinda a waste of money but the his girlfriend or she already has a console and wants to play games around the house/ on the couch
thats basicly the story
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but gaming laptops have terrible battery life.
However, I have something that might fit your need @warped tendon
This one would be sufficient, but the screen can only produce 63% of sRGB. If she’s picky about colors, then you’re going to have a hard time finding a laptop that can game decently and look amazing for $1K. 63% sRGB isnt bad, it’s just not optimal either.
https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-IPS-Type-R7-3750H-GeForce-TUF505DU-EB74/dp/B07QQB6DC1
This is a really good deal for the specs
Ryzen 7, GTX 1660ti, 16GB DDR4, 256GB SSD, 1TB HDD
You really cant beat that at that price range
Idle is 39C GPU and 38C CPU. Max temps (stress tested) 83C GPU, 85C CPU. Thats average for gaming laptops.
Yes, the drives are replaceable. I wouldnt have recommended it if they werent.
Any other questions?
is that anti dust cooling normal now in those kind of laptops?
or is it something they like to flaunt with
Yea its a thing
i havent really kept up with the laptop world tbh
I mean they decided to include a full video of it
Dust still gets in
so it looks like a gimmick lol
its marketing
And what you get vs what you pay, I cant justify buying a gaming laptop for myself
Neither
When the target consumer is someone with next to no knowledge, marketting works wonders.
True that hapcher lmfao
I once saw a "Ryzen 5 2600" title that had an AMD FX CPU
W o t
Like a used pc listing that falsely advertised its CPU?
That reminds me of this series where this guy would look at people selling their old hardware for bad prices https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eQ8pTwam5o
Hm
@abstract kite @ashen valve
Idk my Mouse, Keyboard or Headset.
5700xt gang 
Aye!
It really is ngl
Ive had problems with it crashing from time to time though.
Hasent for about two weeks now, but it happens.
Yeah there are some problems with it autoing to gen 4 pcei and if you have amd chill and stuff like that on it will crash because of the software
"Autoing"?
Autoing
Doing something automaticly
It is right im not wrong here ?
Idk what it enables xD
Wait it means driveing a car T-T
Oh, btw, last AMD GPU Update was a pain in the ass
It is most of the time xD
Haha oof
I haven't had any real problems except maybe weird performance issues cause of the Anti-lag feature being included for the older gpus now. Also tuning settings getting reset
Crashed my PC > PC Didn't want to load up > Comes back > PC Has Windows Update > Restarts > PC doesn't want to load up > Comes back > GPU Update again > Finishes > Restarts again > Doesn't want to load up > Reboots > Done....
If there's ever problems like that because of drivers I think it helps to just use DDU to uninstall and wipe all registry keys related to them, and fresh install from that point
@abstract kite thanks so much! had to step away for a while. I really appreciate the advice
Hey peeps, I have an asus pg27uq monitor that is now starting to exhibit strange behavior. I've had it for a few weeks now and it's been amazing but just a few minutes ago it randomly shut off completely. I managed to get it back on and noticed the fans were going full speed and were much louder than normal, then after about a minute it shut down again. Would this be some kind of safety shut down to prevent over heating? I've had my computer running for about 10 hours doing various things. I've never experienced this before with a monitor
what all were you doing to "heat" it
because monitors generally don't get hot unless you overclock them
The monitor shutdown, and the fans of your system went full speed?
sounds like graphics card issue to me
Yea, i would stick the the graphics card or power supply on this one
If the card is not getting sufficient power or going out, it could cause this. Generally in system the power supply is the first thing to go vs a graphics card unless you are getting constant power abuse aka surges and shut downs from unforseen circumstances
No like the monitor itself completely cut it's own power. It turned off and would not turn on. The computer itself was running fine. The power LED on the monitor wasnt lit, nor any other lights on it
The monitor was plugged into a power strip with surge protection (the only thing on the strip that was running) but I just took it off and connected it straight to an outlet to see if that will change anything. The monitor turned on fine now but idk what could have suddenly changed to cause this
GPU is a 2080ti that's run perfectly fine while I've had it for the past 4-5 months
But to answer your question @vapid crypt the monitors fans went full speed before it cut power. PC fans were acting normal
Oh I wasn't aware they were putting fans into monitors, must be a high end thing
~$1600 that can overclock. I'm well aware there are better things I could have put that money towards 😂😭😭
But before it cut power the second time, I felt the air blowing out of the vents and ot wasnt really warm at all
Have you overclocked it past its refresh rate that it says it can clock to?
And if it really isn't an overheating issue it could be a power issue with the monitor itself 
Nope. The highest normal clock is 120 which is what I have it set to, the overclock is to 144hz but I've never needed it to go that high so far. I was just thinking it might be a power supply issue which sounds about right considering what is happening

open question to ya all, looking to replace my cpu cooler as seems to be drawing a good chunk of power and over heating
been looking into some and thinking maybe either of these
https://smile.amazon.com/upHere-CCF150CF-Performance-Contact-Compatible/dp/B07T9LHFK4?pf_rd_p=dd4f5b57-ba5b-418b-a348-64ec62df14cc&pd_rd_wg=wJxLA&pf_rd_r=H69WRN462JB8YXESJGC5&ref_=pd_gw_cr_simh&pd_rd_w=wYPKw&pd_rd_r=e660bfcd-174f-47f6-b552-e69b81a2d8f3&th=1
any thoughts?
@vivid sandal Maybe add some more information next time what CPU are you using instead of only giving us the information about the cooling you want to switch too
oh right
running a ryzen 5 3600 and it seems to run 46c min and 59c max yes i know its hot and looking to spend max around 50$
What the hell is that first CPU cooler
I never thought I'd see a ball shaped cooler
Lmfao
basic case fan that came with
Well if it breaks you can start a pool session with it
Hah
Theres only one chinese review video up for that ball cooler lmfao
Hockey puck or whatever it is
Hah
Whatever it is
It doesn't look good
It is
Ugly
Like this cooler can make even a good looking case
I mean i would recommend to just go with some of the better known brands and if you really want that RGB flair you can always switch out the fans but its going to go over your budget
I honestly dont know much about RGB coolers and cant really recommend one because i dont know any
You can just get like, the Hyper Evo 212 and put in the RGB fans
I can't recommend one either, haven't really seen any good ones probably except those thermaltake ones
pretty much anything is better then the stock one i have
been trying to find an equivalent but nothing seems to be listed
If thats really your thing and want to spend that extra money on RGB
lol a case fan would be neat?
yes
Honestly all the RGB fans are ass priced because RGB
Anyways I'm going to head to sleep
have a good sleep
I honestly if you plan on buying a new system in the future
Woah woah woah
I would recommend a more expansive cpu cooler if you do
59C max ain't bad, eh?
I don't know the good CPU temps lol
My intel runs worse lmfao
Intel is nuclear reactor
I idle at 35C
Trueeeee
my max is 78C
Damn
Granted I have a 3700X
Well, still
and that's on AIDA64. Real world test like Prime95 is more like 68C
ye prob is that anytime i try to play a certain game its start up draws even more power cause it to spike overheat and soft crash
Intel is a free room heater and you need an extra airco in the summer only for the CPU lmfao
@vivid sandal
Anyway now your here bearz what kind of hub are you using for your RGB?
Lmfao
Lighting node pro
msi b450 im trying to find model
Yeah fuck that
tomahawk?
Im looking into buying some phanteks RGB stuff
but dont know what RGB hub i want to use just yet
Phanteks has some decent RGB stuff from what I've heard. I've never used any of their RGB products myself so I can't vouch for 'em personally.
I have it all set to white tho so not bad / hard
Im looking to buy those Phanteks aliminium RGB lights placed infront of the fans
Those looks great
some subtle lighting instead of straight disco into your face
not tomahawk
Can you send a link to it @vivid sandal?
Depending on your BIOS, your 3600 could be getting too much voltage.
I figured lol
It was kind of weird hearing a B450 and 3600, without hearing that it's been updated
Either a) your mobo has no idea what to do with the processor
or b) your running an earlier AGESA bios that thought that pumping fucking 1.5V to the processor was cool
It might need an update I guess, you could check
its a b450m/ac
cough
my heart
Aight let me find the bios
You got a USB stick lying around?
You're gonna need it.

its running the most current bios, sadly already looked it up
Check your Windows power plan and see if it's set to performance
change it to balanced if so
nope checked on the site and it only has v1.2
Well then
Download AIDA64 and Ryzen Master
Lmfao
Take care puppy
there was an update but in the same version
Mayo cant stop the typing
have a good sleep
I know, lol
Pretty much "I'll sleep" means I'm gonna stay up a bit more and fuck around
mood
Afterwards like 2nd or 3rd time I will do so
2 hours later .....
lul
Lmfao thats how you get dead as tired as an adult
Take care
Used to stay up until 5-6 AM
its 9:23 in morning for me now
Now I just try to not go past 3AM mostly
lmfao
@vivid sandal Download these
Ryzen Master https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/ryzen-master
AIDA64 Extreme (demo) https://www.aida64.com/downloads
?
Sometimes I stayed up overnight, tried staying up at day and slept most of it anyways lol
Bye
Cya have a good sleep if you can get yourself to sleep
Ryzen master lets you monitor your voltages, CPU temps, and much more. it's also the most accurate reading of your processor. AIDA64 is the fuck all beast of a stress test on your PC. nothing will ever hit your processor as hard as AIDA64. This will give you a worse case scenario of your temps and voltages
For instance, in Prime95 I never get over 68C on my 3700X. In AIDA64 I get murdered at 76-78C.
It's purely a synthetic, unrealistic test for finding the worst of the worst.
Yeah you should never be able to hit those numbers while gaming
am running cpuid HW monitor
The 3600's TJ max is 95C (same as my 3700X). You shouldn't hit that at all. If you download both and your temps and voltages are bad, then I would think it could be a bad PSU.
CPUID is a bad system for Ryzen
HW monitor is not accurate
Ryzen Master is the most accurate reading
owo
o no
AIDA64 and CPU-Z say I hit 88C lmao and I'm not
CPUID said I was hitting 93
Those are super optimistic numbers
oh
Download the software I linked above @vivid sandal
Open Ryzen master to monitor
Run AIDA64 and stress test the CPU, FPU, and cache.
Closely check your voltages and temps.
Unless you're hitting around 85C immediately, let the test run for 10 minutes to get a good average.
So many car fires tonight in my city someone has a weird fetish with fire
I would be pissed if it would be my car
Where exactly do you live for there to be so many pyromaniacs?
Netherlands
I dont know in and around my city this year
around 150 cars burned down
maybe more tbh
Fucking tired of the cold I guess
That's seriously depressing tho. What are they gaining from it.
Disgusting
Someones house completly burned down because they light the car on fire it was parked under a wooden roof and it lit the whole house on fire
with a family of 5 stil inside barely escaped but alot of breathing issues afterwards
That's insane
Their not gaining anything from it their targeting work vans and those luxury car brands like mercedes and audi and bmw
ya
😐
And it wouldnt be bad if it was only related to the new year firework
but its all year round kinda sad tbf
wheres the link for the aid64 all i can find are ads
says each are hitting about 1.35v on the ryxen master but had to stop cause it went to 87c and started climbing
Your processor is fine on voltages
I don't think temps are the issue for what you're doing. however, you may want to invest in a better cooler.
Are you sure your BIOS is on the newest version?
Do you still have the box for the motherboard
all motherboards should receive bios updates
there is an experimental 1.6 but otherwise its on 1.2 last updated in march
but thats before i got it
There's actually two
your motherboard is most likely using version 1
the release bios
1.2 came afterward
try updating to that.
nope def on1.2 cause just checked though system info, radeon settings, and went into bios last week and it said 1.2
i have a screen grab
Ah okay
From the information I've gathered, it's not your motherboard or processor (unless there's one thing I haven't checked) that's causing the issue.
How old is your power supply, and what is the wattage and 80plus rating?
I would suggest just buying a good cooler and you can always take it with you into the next system you will buy or build yourself
These coolers usually stay pretty good quality and not much can happen with them
^ that was my second solution
it came stock with the rig
The stock cooler is sufficient for most tasks but abysmal in higher loads
I would recommend a Be Quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4
^
it's one of the beefiest coolers on the market, and you won't have to upgrade coolers when/if you move to a heftier CPU.
It'll last a good 6-8 years
thats a beefy boi
It's clean though. it doesn't need the RGB to make you go "damn"
Its not a small one thats for sure
only thing you have to make sure is if it will fit into your case
mid size case
What case do you have?
Easiest to send a pic yeah
Hrm
Can you send a link?
I want to see the depth of the case
to make sure there's no incompatibility issue
with the height of the DRP4
yes its a prebuild cause only starting to learn how to part, and was on limited budget
Your stock cooler is non RGB now too? @vivid sandal
nope
it has RGB?
oh wait read that wrong, yes non rgb
Why do you want a RGB cooler then just to fit in with the whole case?
Chief the DRP4 might not fit
kinda, am ok with non
the ones in my budget where more often rgb
Yeah it looked like lack of space
because of the motherboard backplate looks so far pushed to the front
or its just a smaller case
am looking to go max $50, any more would just go with liquid cooling
Looking at the original phanteks case and the Dark Rock 4 which is 159mm tall is a super tight fit. The DRP4 is 163mm tall
@vivid sandal An $80-100 air cooler will kick a $120 liquid coolers ass
Yup
And liquid coolers are only good for so many years
oh
Theyre not worth it
Usually the air is way better and way more worth the money
My next build/upgrade will include a beefy air cooler
My next build will be a full custom loop but the build after that will have good aircooler
But honestly cant he just find a decent Noctua or like the shadow rock or pure rock coolers for his cpu
thats within his budget then
What the fuck? I just realized I'm not hitting full boost clock. My max is 4.1 and not the real 4.4
fuck it. I'm tired of dealing with this shit so I'll take the oof.
am planning on switching out this one into my old tower as the fan on that is almost dead and cant find a fan in the same size
Depending on your old case, it might not be worth it.
Yeah depends on the old case
And if you have enough room there + if you are willing to spend more and going over the budget of the $50
A dark rock 4 would be completely sufficient
wait a second let me check how big a noctua DH15 is
its about 6 years old 80mil stock cooler
Believe darkrock 4 is $60?
hole reason i had to get a new pc, old one was cheaper to get a hole new rig then update
This is what you'll have to get. It should be more than sufficient though.
https://www.amazon.com/quiet-Dark-Rock-BK021-Cooler/dp/B07BYP9S95
Let me find a cheaper alternative for you
@vivid sandal This is a decent budget cooler. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06ZYB8K77?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1
It should suit your needs sufficiently
hey chineese guy, hitting your oc is not always gonna happen, I have a i9 clocked to 5ghz but only one or two cores can actually hit it, thus leaving it to only clock to 4,8
That's normal as far as I know. Getting all cores needs higher power limits and is usually not worth the trouble.
While the Dark Rock Pro 4 works great, RAM clearance is painfully close. I think the fan is resting on top of the RAM at all times. And only fits around the most outer slots. I'm looking to get 2 extra modules for that sweet 32GB and I'm certain the fan will be in the way.
1 in the middle and one in front. For it to work best it really should have air coming through in that configuration.
doubt it will affect more than 2c difference
@abstract kite I've heard a lot of people reporting the boost clock not being met on Ryzen, but tbh its all marketing. If the CPU can hit 4.4 on a single core for 3 seconds, that's basically within spec. So clocks are gonna vary a lot. Still I think when it comes to an all core average it should be higher than 4.1; but it could also depend on the typical load.
I've thought about either getting the second pair of RAM without RGB or try shaving out part of the plastic fan frame.
Could also do some tests with moving the fan to the other side. Didn't think about that tbh.
I will never again buy ryzen cause it might be cheaper but sure does run hotter than anything else and I like intel, I've just made the mistake of buying the cheaper ones
And let the hate begin
I really wonder if you'll stick to that opinion next year. Ryzen's roadmap vs Intel's is sad atm.
well you can think about it like that but changing processors every 6 months is sad also
But it doesn't run hotter 
my misstake
I'm waiting to see what happens with the 9900KS, it does 5GHz on all cores just like you wanted. But Intel only gives it a 1 year warranty. Normal 9900K gets 3 years.
Yeah AMD is crushing Intel atm, it's pretty funny
Hm
True, not for the best perf, it's always been NVIDIA
Buuuut that may change at one point
But if it were to happen, NVIDIA might just take back the crown for best perf GPU with next lineup
Yeah,thing is and really doesn't care all that much about gpus,they seen how well there CPUs are doing and are mainly focused on that market
https://www.anandtech.com/show/2679/5
Looking back at history, and seeing just how small the Navi die is, and how well it does with a tiny memory bus, the next generation could be very interesting indeed. That is, if AMD chooses to compete on price.
Guess we'll have to see if they release a 5900xt 
Yeah
I'd even argue that if the real price of the 5700 and xt was 200 and 300, it would sell out everywhere.
Of course it would, it competes with the 2070 super, neither of which you'd find for 200-300
In performance, sure. But in price, the 5700xt matches the 2060s
It really is a great value and card. A lot of people still feel uneasy going with team red for GPU's though. There's history of odd bugs or worse performance only possible for them. However rare they might be, people still overpay to avoid them.
People fear the 'devil they know' much less than a devil they don't... Nvidia isn't bug free either. Windows is one thing; from what I can tell, it's mostly the same, good as bad. Ask anyone running Linux and they tend to have many colorful words and phrases about nvidia's drivers... Not that AMD's are bug free; they're not.
Cool I finished HL2 E1 in like 2 hours lmao
I don't disagree, just saying there's an angle to it. Only need to give it time for people to learn there's good options from both nowadays.
Oh wait this ain't general, eh
I'm thinking more in the context of friend is building a PC, what's the most straightforward and near plug and play option possible. They're usually not willing to go into details or even try troubleshooting beyond fast, basic fixes.
For those people - avoiding very fresh releases (less than half a year or so) has been my rule of thumb.
For those people, one generation old used parts are gold! Cheaper, bugs fixed, still very relevant!
well if you went with that when the 1000 series was released you got scammed then
cause 900 series and 1000 series were so different
i just built a pc ( not my 1st pc build but my second ) but its my first time using anything but air cooling i have a corsair h100i RGB platinum how do i make sure A:) the pump is actually runing and B:) the heat synch is fully seated on the CPU
this is my build
As long as the SATA power is connected you're good. You should hear a short "splirt" of fluid occasionally when it's under load.
It will be fully seated if there is no movement when you try to adjust the pump
there is also the issue with CPU being apparently performing below expectations
Looks like it didn't turbo past it's base clocks. I would go into the bios and see if you can manually overclock it. Alternatively you can overclock with Intel's program "extreme tuning utility". It's possible certain settings are preventing it from boosting
i believe its set to auto OC
Auto oc can be unreliable. There are even cases where auto oc gives worse performance
hu so i should leave it off or set it to manual
Try it both ways and see what works best for your system 👍
That's pretty good. It's not even breaking a sweat
I would be concerned if it was 85-95 C
in the pic i posted the rad fand ones on the right are exhaust and the 2 in top left are intake would you change them?
For my aesthetic I would switch them, but the airflow is fine the way it is
it was the only case for sale (instore) in my area i checked 5 stores
there arnt any real computer stores here lol 😢
Yeah, that's why I always buy online

i agree but i didnt wanna wait lmao
Well thats on you then
agreed
Or local Facebook market, I had gotten a cool I buy power case for free
AutoOC is trash, just do your own research and figure out your Vmax before you start melting cores
i dont like overclocking anywhay
there is really no reason to i should be able to run anything on max without it
It is helpful at times
For a safe overclock, a 9700k should be able to boost to 4.5 GHz easily without changing voltage
I clocked my coffee lake to 4.8 with .03V change
Good to know 😃
I hit 5.1 with 1.38V
Had dry ice system running
Kinda was scary to see it work at that speed
do you think my powersupply is good enough
For?
my pc lol
Well what do you have?
Yeah, it won't last for decades but you should be able to use it for a few years with no issues
It's an 80plus bronze
microcenter gang
Yeah it’s only bronze certified, might have to upgrade
Bro, the nearest microcenter is like 4 hours away from me 
I hate you 😡
9700K stock boosts to 4.6 all core, as long as your temps are fine.
They had a deal on a thermal take power supply that was gold certified for like $80
I mean you haven’t changed much on the OC settings
It’s just auto everything
Might have to update bios tho
Idk what to choose
Just leave to stock if you don’t know what you are doing
my system https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/41268718
damm,that pc is a god compaired to mine
oof
so how do i update bios without destroying my computer
For a B450 to support 3000 series? @regal kite
I remember getting soemthing around 26k on 3Dmark when I first made my build
I was in tears man
i dont understand any of what you said muppy lol
thats how you update biosd
You have ASUS tho so it’s through UEFI
and asus rog strix z390e
you can connect online via motherboard and download latest bios
you can do it from the bios?
What mobo you have?
asus rog strix z390e lol
They should then have all 3 options available
Yeah from the UEFI you can download or install@via USB
but you dont need to update bios if its a z390 chipset it will work its the latest
1271 is latest????
Look, you dont update the bios without a reason, if everyhting works you leave it
and your cpu will work without updating
Yeah, it's not required unless a part is going doo doo without a BIOS update
Updating bios usually unlocks more recent Windows updates
Uh no cause windows has nothign with the bios to do
It did for my pc, my hardware was locked via bios and the more recent bios update fixed it
And 26K on 3dnark? Am looking but not seeing
Well there's a billion
So I'm not going to find it lol
he prolly meant on older version
26k is like non existent nowadays its 25k and then 30k
but since I dont know the whole story I wont say anything
Yes
The xmp you can turn to the frequency you bought the ram for and probably it will be fine unless you have a bad mmu
yes stock speed is 2400 mhz on every single ram that is ddr4 cause that is what it is made for but if you bought 3200 mhz ram you will have to activate the 3200 mhz ram xmp profile
Maybe
buy better parts lmao
Which one
Pick the posion of your choice
My surface book 2
Oof that clean setup
That was when I was still in college
laptop in middle even tho you cant sit in the middle of the desk 😄
I would lift that desk of the floor with my legs lmfao
Why u showing us pictures of a hotel room
ok zoomer
if over clocking is off why is it at 4.9 htz
why cant they make it a simple dang option Overclocking options ( Disabled, Auto, Manual ) they cant make it easy
in the bios? i didnt even see an option for that
in windows omg
right click the windows logo in left corner, then power optiosn and show additrional power options
how is that gonna effect overclocking
do as I say not as I do
i dont even mind if it overclocks as long as it doesnt melt my cpu
and why am I not getting paid for this
It should be perfectly fine as long as your cooler is capable
The reason its boosting like that is because the cooling must be good 
Modern CPUs boost themselves without having to really do anything now, likely though that 4.9 is only on 1 or 2 cores while the rest of them trickle down
im not feeble when it comes to pc basics but i dont like the bios part lol its to easy to destroy pc if you mess it up
You can check with a program like HWmonitor
That really is only a concern if you get into manual overclocking and have absolutely no idea what you're doing
The i7 9700k clocks to 4.9ghz normally
Really the only folly is putting too much voltage
my consern is i was just idling and it was clocking to 4.9
i just build it 3 days ago i didnt want it to break lol and it costed me like 1600 dollars
kinda
Don't worry about the CPU breaking, its probably the most durable part
Well, outside of dropping it 
You may have heard stories of people frying their CPUs overclocking, but for sure all of those situations was because of user error and putting too much voltage
I did one of those months ago. don't care for userbenchmark much cause it doesn't really tell you anything special, but I guess it does give you an idea of relative performance.
question is do i get 3d mark or pc mark
Steam
ohh i had a steam 5 dolar off coupon and 3d mark is only 4.49 right now so i got it for free
ehh i got it for free anyway
If your GPU does support DirectX 12, yes
its a RTX 2070 SUPER i hope it does lol
It does
no you have to buy the never gtx 1660 TI
lol
EVEN WITH CRUISE CONTROL, YOU STILL GOTTA STEER!!! :O
1660 ti is actually decent
Good for 1080p 144hz if I remember correctly
huh?
but yeah its ok
yeah
I'm running time spy and it's using 0-3%of gpu?
Into my graphics card lol
Ya sure? People still get it wrong even if they're good lol
Or you've had it for a while and running really great
On games
Yes lol it's doing agpu test now on second test maybe it was using CPU ther first time
The 1660ti is ok, but it's within 'price margin' of the 5700. As in, most 1660ti's are about $300, and the cheapest non-blower 5700 is $300.
Yeah
Though it's still at 1%?
For GPU?
Yeah
I am lol it's doing GPU 2 test now
I'm doing it on my 144hz monitor if that makes a diff
Only 1080p though unfortunately
Nah
what the hell is this? isnt this low?
Uh take a screenshot 
Go to "Compare results"
I guess?
thats normal
Don't expect to get like
then what was that 26k i saw earlier
it literally has an 8% performance increase lol
Nah, 2070 Super and 2080 Ti
I was talking about firestrike
Is a huge ass difference
Probably Nvlink 2 2080tis
Or maybe?
I use firestrike not timespy
Don't worry about it, its just dragracing pc parts
firestrike says its for 4k or multi gpu
Well I guess uhh
there are 3 firestrikes
No idea

