#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk | GTFO | Page 47

fleet canopy Dec 17, 2019, 2:09 AM

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It should be

knotty cosmos Dec 17, 2019, 2:17 AM

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it isn't

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pulled it out and restarted with it outside

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the PSU fan isnt working

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googling the model specifically

pale vault Dec 17, 2019, 2:33 AM

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@knotty cosmos seems like your name means something

fleet canopy Dec 17, 2019, 4:31 AM

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NO!

vapid crypt Dec 17, 2019, 4:41 AM

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Shame to hear your power supply fan died, did you purchase it yourself or did you get some kind of pre-built pc?

late sorrel Dec 17, 2019, 4:42 AM

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luckily it should only be like 50-60 bucks max to replace

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prolly 30-40 tbh

fleet canopy Dec 17, 2019, 4:43 AM

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30-40$ seems more like it

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Unless it’s at a wack price because economy

late sorrel Dec 17, 2019, 4:48 AM

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yeah I had a wack price for mine

vapid crypt Dec 17, 2019, 4:52 AM

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I overspent, in the sense that I got more than what I needed. I think it was worth it just cause I know its a high quality power supply, its quite efficient and leaves plenty of room for upgrades that need more power.

ivory drift Dec 17, 2019, 8:26 AM

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psu issues are a big deal id just replace it with a corsair 750 watt so youll be good for pretty much everything in the future thru upgrading ur pc

languid wasp Dec 17, 2019, 8:36 AM

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Hmmm, seem to be having issues hitting 144 fps on this game....1080ti 12GB and a i5-7640x, 12gb DDR4 ram. I've turned anti-aliasing to default and dropped shadows to second from highest....I haven't fiddled with the CPU thingy settings though, not familiar with what they do and google wasn't super helpful in giving me an understanding >-<

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Am I missing something or just really that intensive?

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(Wasn't sure if here or in technical support, seemed to fit both sections)

formal osprey Dec 17, 2019, 9:22 AM

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Can the game be played

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as duo/trio

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if we dont want to pick up a random 4th

knotty cosmos Dec 17, 2019, 9:29 AM

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@pale vault oof that hurts but also kinda what it feels like

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@vapid crypt @fleet canopy Alright boys i got a new PSU one that is 650 watt because eventually more ram and a better graphics card will be added, so wish me luck i will try and play a game and see what happens

crimson dock Dec 17, 2019, 9:45 AM

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@formal osprey yes

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You can solo, duo, trio and quad it

radiant garnet Dec 17, 2019, 12:35 PM

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@languid wasp That's a strange setup, and 12GB of RAM?
As for high FPS, I'd recommend setting all settings to their lowest value, then fiddle with the CPU culling thing to see what works best for you, then slowly bring one setting at a time back up towards high. Typically textures are free as long as you have enough VRAM, and with 11GB of VRAM on your 1080ti, that's plenty good! If anything, you might be CPU bottlenecked. Test and test again, and please report back what you find to increase the collective knowledge!

wary oar Dec 17, 2019, 2:14 PM

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12gb isn't that odd, I used to run a triple channel ddr3 system back around 2012 and I ran (6x4gb) 24gb for video production.
running 2x4 2x2?

brisk badger Dec 17, 2019, 2:20 PM

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LGA 1366 lol

vapid crypt Dec 17, 2019, 3:13 PM

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12 is strange to see now because triple channel isn't a thing anymore, unless you're still on a platform that supports it. And all the DDR4 RAM sticks come in either 4/8/16 etc. As far as I know, running 3 breaks dual channel compatibility

radiant garnet Dec 17, 2019, 3:14 PM

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@wary oar For socket 2066, 12GB is very odd. It's also very odd to run the 7640x, a 4c4t desktop CPU with 2 memory channels and 16 PCIe lanes on a platform with 4 memory channels and 40-something PCIe lanes.

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You can get 12 by doing 4GB and 2GB in each channel, but that requires mixing and matching RAM and you should never do that if you like stability and predictability from your system...

vapid crypt Dec 17, 2019, 3:16 PM

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I've never seen a 2gb DDR4 stick before, either they stopped making it early on; or never made it at all phaSheva

wary oar Dec 17, 2019, 3:17 PM

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//shrug

vapid crypt Dec 17, 2019, 3:18 PM

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I didn't even know Intel made i5s for their HEDT platform, wtf phaWesker

wary oar Dec 17, 2019, 3:18 PM

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I've mostly given up chasing system specs, every non-government computer I've encountered in the last five years has been fast enough

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even on my personal desktop I ran 16gb single channel for a year before upgrading to 32 dual and I don't see much of a difference outside of preview rendering in after effects

vapid crypt Dec 17, 2019, 3:23 PM

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At the very least, I know its important for Ryzen. I have a buddy that ran single channel for a long time, and when he got a second stick I think he got a 35% performance increase in games; well something like that. Like in GTA V I think he was getting around 40ish fps as a 1% low, like when a lot of stuff is happening. Now its like 60fps as the 1% low.

wary oar Dec 17, 2019, 3:32 PM

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sometimes changing a thing has a big effect. I just put a second 8gb of ddr4 in my girlfriend's desktop and now it doesn't hang when she's gaming with 90 chrome tabs in the background

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might have more to do with disabling superfetch though, not everyone has the ideal system

brisk badger Dec 17, 2019, 5:01 PM

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No it definitely has something to do with your gf having 90 tabs open while playing

fleet canopy Dec 17, 2019, 5:02 PM

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If that’s the case, only so much could help your girlfriend

kindred forge Dec 17, 2019, 5:17 PM

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guys is the rx 5500 xt worth getting over a rx 580

fleet canopy Dec 17, 2019, 5:17 PM

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Uhh

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Imma check

kindred forge Dec 17, 2019, 5:18 PM

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the rx 5500 xt has 8gb of gddr6

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the rx 580 has 8gb of gddr5

brisk badger Dec 17, 2019, 5:20 PM

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every week you come with a new comparison lol

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tbh I don't think it's worth without checking stats.
Unless you have money to throw away

fleet canopy Dec 17, 2019, 5:20 PM

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Not much difference, I don’t know what is going to be any special with GDDR5-6

cold walrus Dec 17, 2019, 5:22 PM

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the clock speed

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i think

fleet canopy Dec 17, 2019, 5:24 PM

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From a quick check on Userbitchmarks, seems 5500 is a better deal anyways, it’s literally the same price lol

brisk badger Dec 17, 2019, 5:28 PM

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ah I misread. Yea if don't own the rx580 already go for 5500

spiral patio Dec 17, 2019, 6:26 PM

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Unless you can get the 580 heavily discounted! It's a damn good card.

north bronze Dec 17, 2019, 7:46 PM

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userbenchmarks is bad

vapid crypt Dec 17, 2019, 7:50 PM

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Its true, stop using it for benchmark statistics

shell root Dec 17, 2019, 7:53 PM

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yo does rtx 2969 work well with this game?

vapid crypt Dec 17, 2019, 7:53 PM

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I think that's about as viable as the 1669 phaWesker

fleet canopy Dec 17, 2019, 7:56 PM

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It’s the same price at least from what it shows, and somewhat okay improvement than what a 580 gives

shell root Dec 17, 2019, 7:59 PM

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I meant rtx 2060 mb mistyped

fleet canopy Dec 17, 2019, 8:04 PM

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Haha

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Well what prices are you seeing for 2060 @shell root

shell root Dec 17, 2019, 8:06 PM

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330

fleet canopy Dec 17, 2019, 8:07 PM

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Aight my phone is dead, but see if you can get a 5700 for same or lower price, it should be somewhat better than a 2060

shell root Dec 17, 2019, 8:11 PM

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alright

wet spear Dec 17, 2019, 8:28 PM

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The one nice part of the Nvidia stuff, though, is the NVENC encoder if you stream. The RTX series one is improved over the 10 series. Let's you offload streaming rendering to your GPU. Has its issues, but good for streaming single box.

shell root Dec 17, 2019, 8:43 PM

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interesting I will take that in account

languid wasp Dec 17, 2019, 9:12 PM

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@radiant garnet can you explain what that setting does? I didn't really understand what I was reading on the Google search and was hoping to get some light shed on it as well. Never seen it in a game before

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Also. That's a 12gb 1080ti card and 16gb ram. Sorry. I can't type.

cunning ore Dec 17, 2019, 9:30 PM

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Anyone else's game running in the background after closing out of it? I stopped playing yesterday and it just kept running, logging 30 hrs in the game, most of that idle time

wet spear Dec 17, 2019, 9:35 PM

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Yeah @shell root . I mean its not a deal breaker either way if you have a PC that can handle h264, but its nice to have for the starting streamer and OBS, etc, has built in support for NVENC(new) wihch is what they label the RTX series cards (2000 series)

shell root Dec 17, 2019, 9:37 PM

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I think I just might get a rtx 2070

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super

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just to be safe honestly

wet spear Dec 17, 2019, 10:10 PM

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I have a 2080 FTW3 Hybrid, and love it. It does the job, and since I single box it handles streaming for me as well.

tame cove Dec 17, 2019, 10:21 PM

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How did you guys come to know so much about computer tech? I’m still learning and I just browse through here to read, some of this information is very overwhelming lol

wet spear Dec 17, 2019, 10:50 PM

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Firstly... I'm old.

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Second... you just learn about it. In like 1997 there was this game TRIBES. My coworkers got into it at the Water Park I worked at so I saved up and built my first PC with their help. Had a lot of fun doing it so I kept learning what I could until I got my first PC job doing Tech Support for HP.

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Then I just kept finding new things and teaching myself. Went from Tech Support to a NOC at a bank. There I learned about Administration of things (backups, vmware, etc) and kept growing. Now I manage my companies Data Centers, Virtualization, Servers and backups.

stable patio Dec 17, 2019, 11:07 PM

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Anyone got any tips on how to lower temps with 3800X?

merry bay Dec 17, 2019, 11:08 PM

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Just aim to keep accumulating info and beyond a point it's very quick to keep up. Just go through recent release reviews and comparisons from trusted sources.

stable patio Dec 17, 2019, 11:08 PM

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I'll idle at 50C

fleet canopy Dec 17, 2019, 11:11 PM

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What is your coler

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Cooler

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Do you dust out your PC?

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Is there good airflow?

stable patio Dec 17, 2019, 11:14 PM

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@fleet canopy I got a noctua air cooler

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And it's a brand new build, barely any dust

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Great airflow, full tower, no cable mess, and 7 fans in a push pull system

fleet canopy Dec 17, 2019, 11:15 PM

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Maybe the cooler isn’t on?

plain vault Dec 17, 2019, 11:16 PM

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Ryzen 3rd gen tend to idle a little higher than previous gens. So nothing to worry about. I have Corsair H115i Platinum (280mm AIO) and idle around 39-41C

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The stress temps are what you need to monitor

stable patio Dec 17, 2019, 11:17 PM

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@fleet canopy nah it's fully functional

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@plain vault is there no way to override that with manual settings?

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I got Ryzen Master

plain vault Dec 17, 2019, 11:17 PM

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Override what?

wary oar Dec 17, 2019, 11:18 PM

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If it's consistent you shouldn't need to worry too much, and it might lower by a degree or two over the next few weeks if it's a brand new build

plain vault Dec 17, 2019, 11:18 PM

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You can always try undervolting and set the clocks yourself, but I wouldn't recommend that

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I mean 50C is PERFECTLY fine.

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If you start to thermal throttle while gaming, then you have a problem

fleet canopy Dec 17, 2019, 11:19 PM

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If you have any needs to do it or if you want to overclock it, go ahead

eternal venture Dec 17, 2019, 11:22 PM

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Supply: Corsair RM850x 80 PLUS Gold 850W

Case: Corsair Obsidian 500D RGB

Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F GAMING

CPU: Intel Core i9-9900K @ 5.0GHz

Cooler: Corsair Hydro H115i PRO RGB

GPU: ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11GB

RAM: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16GB DDR4 3200MHz

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how is this?

fleet canopy Dec 17, 2019, 11:23 PM

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Hm

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At the most you’ll get 47FPS

eternal venture Dec 17, 2019, 11:23 PM

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:(

plain vault Dec 17, 2019, 11:24 PM

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It's good enough for pretty much anything

eternal venture Dec 17, 2019, 11:24 PM

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I do 160 fps in 2k with that build :D

fleet canopy Dec 17, 2019, 11:24 PM

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It’s pretty good for jokes to put in tech channels

eternal venture Dec 17, 2019, 11:24 PM

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everything ultra

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@fleet canopy was just joking :D

fleet canopy Dec 17, 2019, 11:24 PM

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Now what you need

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Is the Quadro 8000 to run it at 74FPS

eternal venture Dec 17, 2019, 11:25 PM

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would you overclock such a system? (never did it)

fleet canopy Dec 17, 2019, 11:26 PM

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I would, having an overclocked 9900K seems good for a 2080 Ti

brisk badger Dec 17, 2019, 11:26 PM

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overclocking is fun

fleet canopy Dec 17, 2019, 11:26 PM

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Tedious, long, but pretty neat

brisk badger Dec 17, 2019, 11:27 PM

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Also
"bad" overclocking = manual voltages
badass overclocking = adaptive / offset voltages

stable patio Dec 17, 2019, 11:30 PM

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@brisk badger explain a little please

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I used to have a 7700K build and it constantly ran hot as a bitch

brisk badger Dec 17, 2019, 11:31 PM

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sure give me a sec

stable patio Dec 17, 2019, 11:31 PM

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I had it overclocked to 4.8GHz tho, but it was manual

wary oar Dec 17, 2019, 11:32 PM

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Uuuuuuh

brisk badger Dec 17, 2019, 11:32 PM

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so manual voltages you basically give your CPU a fix amount of voltages, let's say 1.35v. This will be applied when your CPU idles as well as when it's running under fully load
the pro is: it's very stable and very good to find your limits of your CPU.
the con: it's quite ineffective and does help reducing the lifespan of the CPU in the longterm. it will also consume more power and produce more heat

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with adaptive or offset voltages you can tell the CPU basically to dynamically change the voltages depending on how fast it runs

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so, if your cpu has nothing to do it would make sense that the frequency is dropped and with low frequency we can also lower the voltages

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the con: it's kinda tricky to find the perfect values for offset or adaptive voltages, you need to play a little with it. But basically you the tell the CPU: "hey 1.35v is your max for the highest frequency and use less volt for lower frequencies"

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I am not sure 100% if you need a good mobo but I do believe a higher quality mobo certainly helps as with adaptive and offset voltages you communicate with the external VRM's

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I also use a 7700k, at 5200mhz. What really makes a difference is "delidding". Temps are dropped by 10-20°

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You can buy something like this (A delidding tool helper) yourself (no affiliate link): https://www.amazon.com/der8auer-Delid-Die-Mate-Heatsink/dp/B01N6T4LD9 . It's very easy to do and you shouldn't be able to mess it up

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also a "con" about adaptive/offset voltages: You need to enable "C-States" as well as Intel Speedstep / EIST in order to let the CPU use dynamically frequencies. For extreme overclocking this can cause ofc stability issues. but this is when you really wanna push every single MHz

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in my case i cannot run the cpu at 5300MHz with adaptive voltages, but I can with manual. I can however do 5200Mhz with adaptive

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Oh and in your case, I don't think adaptive/offset voltages help in that case. Because with max load you also get the same voltages as with manual. so it wouldn't made a difference I would say

wary oar Dec 17, 2019, 11:45 PM

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I haven't bothered with overclocking since 2010 so I'm going to share a word of wisdom before I butt out: Don't break something you can't afford to replace.

brisk badger Dec 17, 2019, 11:45 PM

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true, but hardware today rarely let's you "kill" something

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rather so called "electro migration" kicks in which over time will require your components to use more and more volt to work stable. This I observe happens with aggressive manual settings (which are applied 24/7)

eternal venture Dec 17, 2019, 11:50 PM

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@brisk badger I'm too noob for this XD

brisk badger Dec 17, 2019, 11:52 PM

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for overclocking or changing voltage type to apative/offset?

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second just takes some time, it's all trial and error till your adaptive voltages match your manual voltage

eternal venture Dec 17, 2019, 11:56 PM

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I don't want to break this

brisk badger Dec 17, 2019, 11:56 PM

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overclocking in general is 'easy' today compared to like ten years (anyone remember the FSB, Front Side Bus ? 😄 )
You just need some time and a good manual. There is no complex maths behind

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this looks slick. Maybe second monitor next? 🙂

eternal venture Dec 17, 2019, 11:57 PM

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I have 3 monitors in storage

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don't like 2nd monitor

brisk badger Dec 17, 2019, 11:57 PM

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I have the same phone holder

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ikea 😎

eternal venture Dec 17, 2019, 11:57 PM

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I don't think it's ikea

abstract kite Dec 17, 2019, 11:57 PM

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RGB PUKE!

eternal venture Dec 17, 2019, 11:58 PM

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I bought on amazon I think

brisk badger Dec 17, 2019, 11:58 PM

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really? I think it helps with productivity

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it's the exact same

eternal venture Dec 17, 2019, 11:58 PM

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this monitor is 32''

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if I put another monitor next to it, takes all the desk

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:D

brisk badger Dec 17, 2019, 11:58 PM

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https://www.ikea.com/ch/en/p/bergenes-holder-for-mobile-phone-tablet-bamboo-10457999/

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hang them on the walls 😛

wary oar Dec 18, 2019, 12:16 AM

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I run two 24inch 1200x1920 monitors on an arm and I disabled all the power/standby lights on my system, we're like diametrically opposed

abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 12:34 AM

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@eternal venture Whats the resolution of that monitor?

eternal venture Dec 18, 2019, 1:32 AM

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2k

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@abstract kite

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144hz

dusty pumice Dec 18, 2019, 1:35 AM

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Whats the code of the monitor @eternal venture

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I thought it was the MSI Optix MPG341CQR but thats a 34" and 3440x1440

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Only thing i would love for these huge curved monitors to be able to hang them on a monitor arm but havent found any arms for a single monitor that can handle 8 - 10 kilograms and would be nice in the future if these came out with 240hz

languid wasp Dec 18, 2019, 1:49 AM

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Anyone able to help with understanding the cpu culling option in the game? I've never used it before and am not sure what I should be looking at to work it's settings out

bitter dragon Dec 18, 2019, 1:50 AM

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Is your CPU or GPU better?

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CPU culling is for that.

eternal venture Dec 18, 2019, 2:07 AM

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📎 image0.jpg

languid wasp Dec 18, 2019, 4:13 AM

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Mm. Probably my gpu. But should I be setting it higher or lower?

late sorrel Dec 18, 2019, 4:14 AM

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lower = worse cpu

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higher = better cpui

languid wasp Dec 18, 2019, 4:15 AM

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Hmmm...alright. Still not sure what in this game is making it hard to hit the refresh rate on my monitor. Will fiddle more later.

The default was 2 I think.

abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 5:01 AM

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@languid wasp If your GPU is better, set CPU culling to low.

late sorrel Dec 18, 2019, 5:05 AM

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bearzzz

languid wasp Dec 18, 2019, 5:05 AM

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@abstract kite sounds good. I'll do some tinkering after work. I love this game now I want it to be as pretty and smooth as my new monitor allows xD

abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 5:09 AM

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@late sorrel Yass queen?

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@languid wasp Since the game isn’t competitive, 60fps is really all thats required. That’s not without saying that higher framerates are absolute b u t t e r, but don’t sweat it if you can’t reach 144 or so lol

late sorrel Dec 18, 2019, 5:14 AM

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i just answered that

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bruh

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anyway

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I wanna make my pc linux

languid wasp Dec 18, 2019, 6:31 AM

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@abstract kite totally agree...but I'm getting dips near 50 during heavy fights. And I'd prefer it if those would stay over 60 if possible. My goal is keeping over 100fps

abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 6:53 AM

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@late sorrel Sorry, I didn't read everything lol

rustic stump Dec 18, 2019, 8:17 AM

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cpu is RARELY bottleneck in any game FYI

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most people buy way overpowered CPU's relative to their GPU

if you're $800 or under for budget, you ideally want to cram 40-60% of budget into a GPU. If anyone wants help building I'm an efficiency FPS/$ nerd

this is something i did for a friend

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abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 8:22 AM

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@rustic stump

cpu is rarely a bottleneck in any game

lmao

rustic stump Dec 18, 2019, 8:22 AM

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in any setup*

abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 8:22 AM

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still

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lmao

rustic stump Dec 18, 2019, 8:23 AM

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LMAO at you bro

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in terms of FPS/$

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you're almost always better off more GPU budget rather than idiots buying i7's

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but people under $900 aren't buying i7's probably

abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 8:23 AM

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dude an i5 is going to bottleneck a 2080.

rustic stump Dec 18, 2019, 8:23 AM

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why are you pairing

abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 8:23 AM

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Don't sell me this bullshit

rustic stump Dec 18, 2019, 8:24 AM

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an i5 with a 2080

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i want an i5 with a 2080

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than some 1660 with a i7-9999x

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you're bullshit

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abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 8:24 AM

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Oof you got me there

rustic stump Dec 18, 2019, 8:24 AM

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pretty much everyone needs more GPU muscle, not more CPU

abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 8:24 AM

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What else you wanna school me on?

rustic stump Dec 18, 2019, 8:25 AM

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sarcasm

abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 8:25 AM

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Nice

6c is the minimum you want to get now. Any setup used other than gaming, or in mulitasking, needs a higher core count.

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8c is preferred

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It's not just gaming my friend

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PCs are built for multiple things

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otherwise, why aren't we buying consoles?

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Think about it.

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Someone wants to get into streaming? Well, 8c it is buddy. Do some rendering work? Well, 8c again.

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Yes, 6c will work for both, but in terms of efficiency, you have to agree that 8c will be better.

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Of course, architecture comes into play, and so does thread count

rustic stump Dec 18, 2019, 8:28 AM

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Nobody I build for really does productivity work. 1 person I know at work actually streams and wants to stream for Fighting Game Community locals, the 2nd person of all like the 20+ builds I've done we did a hackintosh because he's a wedding videographer

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the other 18 are gaming pure FPS/$ focus

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and to go under 6 cores you have to target $130 or under

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which doesn't make sense

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so yes you're right and I agree, I have an 8 core myself but

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all this knowledge is largely irrelevant for most posts in this discord, sorry for those reading

abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 8:29 AM

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Well I mean this is a tech talk channel

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it can be relevant lol

rustic stump Dec 18, 2019, 8:29 AM

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i guess so 👌

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let me go SEE what is available as a 4 core at microcenter anyways

abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 8:29 AM

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Ryzen 3 I guess

rustic stump Dec 18, 2019, 8:30 AM

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ouch lol only 5 options

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abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 8:31 AM

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Nice

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I'm building a PC for a friend of mine using spare parts. He's getting an i5-6600k and a 1070 I bought off of someone.

rustic stump Dec 18, 2019, 8:31 AM

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sounds pretty good

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budget?

abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 8:32 AM

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No budget for him

rustic stump Dec 18, 2019, 8:32 AM

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oh literally spare

abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 8:32 AM

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it's a christmas gift lol

rustic stump Dec 18, 2019, 8:32 AM

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you know about slickdeals.net right

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just big picture good to have

abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 8:32 AM

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I had about a $300 budget for all the stuff I needed so I'm using that

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r/hardwareswap on reddit has been my go to spot

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Ended up getting the 1070 for $140, and bought a used itx mobo for $70.

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looking to get a fractal node 202 and a low profile cooler if possible

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It'll be a nice little HTPC for a bit

rustic stump Dec 18, 2019, 8:35 AM

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never built an itx but that's always been the dream project but money doesn't grow on trees hahaha

Always end up building something in a matx/atx form factor and just dumping everything into GPU hahahaha

abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 8:35 AM

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lmao same tbh

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I wanted smol pc but full ATX support so I built my newest PC in a Meshify C case

rustic stump Dec 18, 2019, 8:36 AM

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i'll plug for define C, i came from a silverstone ps07b before, small footprint but full atx support, small wind tunnel

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nice sister case

abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 8:36 AM

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Yee

rustic stump Dec 18, 2019, 8:36 AM

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i'm not sure what i think of meshify

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basically it's just open front right

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that's a big dust filter

abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 8:36 AM

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Yep.

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Pretty much

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I had to mod the front of it

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I did so so I could mount a front AIO and still have room for a 300mm card in there

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Just cut some of the plastic bits off the back of the front panel so the fans could get enough room. Everything fits now

rustic stump Dec 18, 2019, 8:38 AM

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pics? not sure what you mean on the back

abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 8:39 AM

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sure give me a sec

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pulled this from a bitwit video to quickly show the rear of the front panel so I don't have to pry mine off my PC

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You cut the plastic part out and it gives enough room to fit two 120mm fans outside of the actual case chassis

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So you can end up mounting 300mm cards in there

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I have a vertical bracket in mine, but that's because fuck chipset fans and I don't want mine to choke

rustic stump Dec 18, 2019, 8:42 AM

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OH front panel fans

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thought it was rear of the case

abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 8:42 AM

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Oh no lol sorry if I didn't specify enough

rustic stump Dec 18, 2019, 8:42 AM

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i got a nibbler at one point to cut out fan grills... it looks really ugly but it's way better for fans

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I didn't read haha

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would you do it for your rear fan grill? 🤔 LOOKS REALLY ugly when you do it

abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 8:43 AM

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Ehh. There's not that much hinderence in airflow that I can tell

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if I need to I can just take the top mesh panel off

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it's pretty open

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already

rustic stump Dec 18, 2019, 8:44 AM

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19-24% reduction in airflow

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http://www.silentpcreview.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=15810

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i remember reading something that was the impetus for me to try that

abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 8:45 AM

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Oh wow

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My CPU runs a little on the warmer side, but that's a known Ryzen 3 trait. GPU never gets above 67C so I think I'm good at the moment lol

rustic stump Dec 18, 2019, 8:46 AM

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https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Effects-of-Grill-Patterns-on-Fan-Performance-Noise-107/

abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 8:46 AM

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CPU under AIDA64 load for about an hour hit 77-79C

rustic stump Dec 18, 2019, 8:46 AM

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you have headroom

abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 8:46 AM

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Oh yea

rustic stump Dec 18, 2019, 8:47 AM

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TLDR, honeycomb being what most cases are

abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 8:47 AM

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That's not too bad

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I'm content with those numbers

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I'm so fuckn hyped for Ampere tho

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Hopefully I can fit one in my PC lol

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Might have to buy the cooler master vertical mount and say fuck it to my PCI-E brackets.

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But that god damn chipset fan

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Makes me angry as fuck

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If I put my card in normally, I'm probably going to choke the chipset.

rustic stump Dec 18, 2019, 8:50 AM

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you're getting a new mobo? i dunno what the ampere is

abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 8:51 AM

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No I've already got a new motherboard. X570 boards have active cooling on the chipset.

Ampere is the name for RTX 3000 cards (assuming that Nvidia goes with the same naming scheme) that are said to launch around 1H of 2020.

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which is why I didn't buy a GPU when I upgraded my CPU to a 3700X

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All we really know so far (or all I have researched) is the planned release date (1H of 2020) and the cards will be named Ampere

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I have Pascal card atm

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while the RTX cards are Turing

jade ermine Dec 18, 2019, 11:44 AM

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codenames for gpu architecture
atleast they are more creative than intel with their thousand lakes.

sick reef Dec 18, 2019, 12:14 PM

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I drilled holes in the top of my old case to fit a 240 radiator, as the mounting holes that were there were not distanced correctly.

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If there's space, there's space.

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With the case I use now I just did a hole in the side panel to fit two fans for a radiator. I could still fit a radiator on top too, if I wanted to.

brisk badger Dec 18, 2019, 12:31 PM

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i got rid of all my pc cases and just use open bench tables 😄

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can get dusty tho

abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 12:41 PM

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New badboi

turbid ravine Dec 18, 2019, 12:43 PM

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good for you

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💯

brisk badger Dec 18, 2019, 1:13 PM

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cpu is RARELY bottleneck in any  game FYI

Clearly we don't play the same games. I tend to like games which all run on a single lol

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*single thread

sick reef Dec 18, 2019, 3:14 PM

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I want to keep my stuff physically safe, thus the case. Being able to carry it around is a plus, albeit heavy.

brisk badger Dec 18, 2019, 3:21 PM

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do you live in a shared house?

It's in any case a bit tricky to phyiscally secure a computer. You could have something like chassis intrusion detection but they are not super secure

sick reef Dec 18, 2019, 3:25 PM

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Not as in such, but as in the parts themselves.

brisk badger Dec 18, 2019, 3:26 PM

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from thieves or potential damages?

sick reef Dec 18, 2019, 3:31 PM

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Potential damage, mostly. in itself, the parts are pretty safe from would-be thieves due to the inconvenience to remove any single part.

brisk badger Dec 18, 2019, 3:32 PM

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i put two "servers" installed in a bench table on top of a bookshelf lol. Only dust and spiders may visit them every once a while 😛 I just save a lot of space plus a bit better aircooling

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i could only see liquid as danger for one that owns a benchtable

sick reef Dec 18, 2019, 3:35 PM

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When your whole room becomes the "case temperature", you do have quite a buffer against temperature.

wary oar Dec 18, 2019, 4:47 PM

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what kind of damage are you expecting? flood, fire, pets?

abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 4:57 PM

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Lads what is my better option for pc upgrade? Current setup 1070 + 9900k + 16 gb ram. Looking to either go for RTX 2080 or 1080ti

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RTX 2080

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it outperforms the 1080ti in 4k

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otherwise theyre similar

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and the price is about the same

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Im not planning to run 4K

dusty pumice Dec 18, 2019, 4:59 PM

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@abstract kite Whats the reason you want to upgrade from a 1070?

abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 4:59 PM

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rather 240hz 1080p

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Bought a 240hz monitor

dusty pumice Dec 18, 2019, 4:59 PM

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And you cant reach 240fps or above in certain games?

abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 4:59 PM

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tbf in 1080p the 2080 is still faster

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Well lets say i want to play division 2 + R6S

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and similar games

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has faster memory and better clocks

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in high - ultra

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150-240 fps

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if possible

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the 1080ti is still a decent card even tho its 3 years old

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tbg EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 GAMING looks nice and performs nice

dusty pumice Dec 18, 2019, 5:00 PM

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Idk if you need that much FPS for division but for sure it would be nice to reach it in Rainbowsix

abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 5:00 PM

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yea

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its decent and looks good but the 2080 will give you ray tracing and newer drivers etc

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i mean im a OCD FPS freak

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nah i dont want ray tracing XD well current yr that is

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cause its not optimized i heard

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tbf if i was you id go for a RTX2080ti just to be future proof for the next 5 years

dusty pumice Dec 18, 2019, 5:01 PM

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Well if your OCD FPS freak ur gonna want to upgrade again when the next gen comes out

abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 5:01 PM

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if i were to get RTX card for ray tracing it would be later on when it can be optimized for 144-240hz monitors

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hmm indeed...

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but not in that way XD

vapid crypt Dec 18, 2019, 5:01 PM

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Tbh avoid turing, its really not worth upgrading to if you already have a 1080ti. All Nvidia has been making is derivatives of it anyway, just wait until Ampere comes out. Its gonna be way faster especially if you're interested in their RTX

abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 5:02 PM

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nono i have 1070 XD

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well i went from 2 gtx1080tis in sli to 2 2080tis in sli

brisk badger Dec 18, 2019, 5:02 PM

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the nvidia 2xxx series is not good and upgrading from a 1070 is a waste of money, unless you have toomuch

abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 5:02 PM

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when is ampere coming + what is going to be the price for them

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its not really faster

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i have 600$ budget

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oof

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xD

brisk badger Dec 18, 2019, 5:02 PM

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iwish i can spend money like this

abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 5:02 PM

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then save the money and wait till after christmas

dusty pumice Dec 18, 2019, 5:02 PM

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600$ and u want a 2080ti o.o

abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 5:02 PM

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? no

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i just said im not looking for 2080ti

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or rtx cards

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only max 2080

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i recommended the 2080ti

vapid crypt Dec 18, 2019, 5:03 PM

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Dunno when Ampere is coming, but it could be in the next year

abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 5:03 PM

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he didnt ask for it

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dont have money for it 😛

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so next yr

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what is the price range gonna be for ampere cards?

vapid crypt Dec 18, 2019, 5:03 PM

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All I know is its gonna be lower in price than turing

abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 5:03 PM

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or assumptions for prices

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well higher than turing

dusty pumice Dec 18, 2019, 5:03 PM

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I think its gonna be lower but not sure

abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 5:03 PM

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defo not its nvidia

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im kind of confused... its gonna be still RTX

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nvidia sits on the throne like intel once did

vapid crypt Dec 18, 2019, 5:04 PM

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Its something I heard from Videocardz

abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 5:04 PM

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but with ampere chipset

vapid crypt Dec 18, 2019, 5:04 PM

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Pretty likely, they're a good leak source

abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 5:04 PM

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so it will go RTX 3060

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and so on

dusty pumice Dec 18, 2019, 5:04 PM

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Intel gonna come out with some graphics cards soon i think

brisk badger Dec 18, 2019, 5:04 PM

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"nvidia sits on the throne like intel"

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what? any source

abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 5:05 PM

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bruh intel got fucked up by amd so bad

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ok so i should wait till next yr?

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and nvidia thinks they can charge whatever they like

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same like intel

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**RTX 3080 will cost US$699 **

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soo

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i live in EU

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its gonna cost deff like 800€

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which goes roughly around 1000$

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makes no sense

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ik

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its shit

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but thats how it is

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ik

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im also in EU

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RTX 2080ti in Croatia costs aprox 1800€

brisk badger Dec 18, 2019, 5:07 PM

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please refer to sources before posting

abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 5:07 PM

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i dont believe that the 3080 will only be 700us$

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mb 200 less xd

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but still

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overpriced

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its unavaliable

dusty pumice Dec 18, 2019, 5:08 PM

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Yeah the prices on the 30 series is speculations but in europa we overpay on cards

abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 5:08 PM

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okay so

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id say the 3080 will more around the 900$ range

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so i should just buy 1080ti

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xd

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?

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jsut wait

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for what tho XD

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dont spend your money yet

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i dont plan giving above 800€ for a gpu

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and defo not on a 3 year old card

dusty pumice Dec 18, 2019, 5:08 PM

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I would recommend to wait but hey if you want to get rid of the 600 spend it

abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 5:08 PM

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i mean

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yeah i also say wait

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maybe youll find a sale

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the statistics show that the prices go down after a yr or so after release

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i dont play on buying from my country

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or the cards prices will drop when the new stuff comes out

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so if i buy via amazon.com aka US location

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i will get tax fined on it

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right

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yes

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if im from EU

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like 200$

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yikes

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the tax fine is insane

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and if i buy from .de its gonna be like -50€ price difference

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25% VAT is in croatia

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😛

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gg lads

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for food aswell

dusty pumice Dec 18, 2019, 5:10 PM

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U get tax fined when the product arrives on the border i believe

abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 5:10 PM

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XDDD

dusty pumice Dec 18, 2019, 5:10 PM

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Customs will tax you

abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 5:10 PM

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yea but only if it comes from US they fine u a lot

brisk badger Dec 18, 2019, 5:10 PM

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if you can, buy it in switerland;) we have cheaper electronics prices than EU

abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 5:10 PM

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site link?

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lemme check it out

brisk badger Dec 18, 2019, 5:10 PM

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and 8% vat taxes, but your country taxes will apply instead

abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 5:10 PM

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cause if i can get RTX 3080 for price range around 500-600€ used

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@abstract kite what did you say was your current gpu again?

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1070

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gigabytew

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mhm

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gotta love my country RITE

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xd

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explain?

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trolling people XD

brisk badger Dec 18, 2019, 5:11 PM

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keep the 1070 and wait for new releases this will drop prices of older generation unless you really want always the newest and the best

abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 5:11 PM

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XD

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dusty pumice Dec 18, 2019, 5:12 PM

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Lmfao those fake specs

abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 5:12 PM

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XDDD

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gotta keep the net trolls out of my chat

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anyhow

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well now you got us on you

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ok?

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so umm so i should wait for used rtx 3080's

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just wait for now

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i dont mind using used cards

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ebay sells GTX 1080ti for 450-550€

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lel

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thats overpriced

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still less than croatia XDD

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like -200€less

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hahaha

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it still is overpriced nonetheless

dusty pumice Dec 18, 2019, 5:14 PM

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Should be able to get it between 350 and 425

abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 5:14 PM

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wow

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would make life much more easier if i could XD

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yeah if youre lucky between 300 and 400

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i mean on ama.de its like 300-400

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is it a used card

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lemme check

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cuz it couldve been used for mining

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and thats no bueno

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yea its used

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used - like new are 653€

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->

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bruh

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like we already said just wait

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dont waste your money yet

brisk badger Dec 18, 2019, 5:16 PM

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法塞爾Today at 6:15 PM
cuz it couldve been used for mining

why

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no bueno

abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 5:16 PM

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well the wating part iss... kinda oopsie cause if i wait more the price of my card will drop

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i wanna sell mine rn and gather money

brisk badger Dec 18, 2019, 5:17 PM

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it's nonsense and perfectly fine to use old gpu's used for mining

abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 5:17 PM

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for mining you undervolt cards and let them run warm

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dusty pumice Dec 18, 2019, 5:17 PM

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@brisk badger U have a website for parts in switz?

abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 5:17 PM

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like really warm

brisk badger Dec 18, 2019, 5:17 PM

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sry that's bs

abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 5:17 PM

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yeah its like load 100% right

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all the time

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xd

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lmao +80$ shipping

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yep

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croatia ftw

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les gooo

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xD

brisk badger Dec 18, 2019, 5:18 PM

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@dusty pumice

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https://www.digitec.ch

dusty pumice Dec 18, 2019, 5:18 PM

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Thanks ❤️

brisk badger Dec 18, 2019, 5:18 PM

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I am a miner since 2010 although not knowing everything I can tell you following

abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 5:18 PM

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@brisk badger how much is 754 currency urs

brisk badger Dec 18, 2019, 5:19 PM

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mining is memory intense, doesn't really use much raw power

abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 5:19 PM

#

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how much would this cost

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are those in euros?

brisk badger Dec 18, 2019, 5:19 PM

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almost 1:1

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maybe like 700eur?

abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 5:20 PM

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eh not rly much different than in Croatia then maybe like 30-50€

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but rn its out of stock

brisk badger Dec 18, 2019, 5:20 PM

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691 euro i come up with

abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 5:20 PM

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the shops i trust

brisk badger Dec 18, 2019, 5:20 PM

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yea but what people don't understand is the inflation part

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and the salary. for us swiss electro goods are kinda cheap

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compared to other countries

abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 5:21 PM

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imo this is so expensive

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avg paycheck in croatia is 500€

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roughly

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i earn 200€ 😛

brisk badger Dec 18, 2019, 5:21 PM

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iwould never pay more than 500 euro for a gpu

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unless it's connected to work

dusty pumice Dec 18, 2019, 5:22 PM

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I mean hes streaming with his 2080ti

abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 5:22 PM

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i dont have 2080ti >->

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cba to edit it XD

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streaming with cpu to be exact

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gpu encoder looks like sht

brisk badger Dec 18, 2019, 5:22 PM

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i think a cheaper card will do as well

abstract kite Dec 18, 2019, 5:22 PM

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so yeah i went for "best" cpu for mainstream

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aka 9900k... also AMD.. i have a phobia hence why didnt go for it

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since my first pc was amd build

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didnt go well

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but it did run okay

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its not that i dont like amd its just that i dont trust it. and when i lose trust in something i dont retain it back

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there is my excuse for not going for amd builds

vapid crypt Dec 18, 2019, 5:36 PM

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It didn't go well, but it did run okay? phaSheva

jade ermine Dec 18, 2019, 6:41 PM

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buys FX
Yea i don't blame you for hating it lmao

rustic stump Dec 18, 2019, 6:51 PM

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9:23 AM] Coffee2Go: its not that i dont like amd its just that i dont trust it. and when i lose trust in something i dont retain it back
[9:23 AM] Coffee2Go: there is my excuse for not going for amd builds

that is a very emotional way of making decisions. you should pick whatever makes sense. whoever heard of CPU's having to be RMA'd????

rustic stump Dec 18, 2019, 7:14 PM

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fear of a brand doesn't make sense unless you're not looking at the breakdown

like if you blew out an MSI motherboard in the AM3 days you avoid all MSI motherboards forever.

the correct way would be to look up a VRM review and assess the risk. MSI has some of the better options in AM4 so you can't generalize down to brand...

brisk badger Dec 18, 2019, 7:29 PM

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you guys MUST be millenials if you hate AMD that much :p

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I just say northbridge and everyone who understand will laugh with me about Intel 😛

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Looking up a VRM review about mainboards. I take of my hat. This is a proper way of purchasing a mainboard

vapid crypt Dec 18, 2019, 7:47 PM

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As a millennial I must apologize. phaMoira Nah not really, I recognize that AMD had bad times with Bulldozer but those days are over now. Disregarding a brand because of those times is very irrational, especially now that they are gaining mindshare, pushing innovation and leading the market with quality products. Intel has stagnated and rested on their laurels. Even now they're just pushing out refreshes of the same stuff just to keep relevance, funny enough almost like AMD with FX.

rustic stump Dec 18, 2019, 8:21 PM

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you must be a BOOMER WOOZA

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I'm a millennial and I love AMD 955 first processor ever baby
3570k then 1700 though hahahahaha

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I think this is normal architecture on hightimeframes, no?

brisk badger Dec 18, 2019, 8:24 PM

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I must admit I never had any socket 955 CPU:'(
This was the time intel was really good with releasing new cpu's

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Also about AMD and their failed Bulldozer lineup. I think what really happened was this:
Instead of going Intel's path and optimize IPC and remain on 4 threads, AMD really wanted to push multitasking and saw that the future belonged to multitasking. Sadly the opposite was the case and not enough developers took advantage of multiple cores, so AMD was clearly the loser with their chips performing rather bad for single threaded applications. Also I think AMD did not really took into account about legacy software and just software that is no longer in development. Making an application using multiple threads can be very difficult especially when there exists program- and scripting languages that are only singlethreaded.

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Intel at least in the consumer market totally messed up after releasing the 2nd generation Core series (which was great)

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Both, AMD and Intel are totally messed up the spectre / meltdown fiasko.

rustic stump Dec 18, 2019, 8:30 PM

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it seems that they trade lead spot on who has the best architecture* that's what i mean generally speaking

brisk badger Dec 18, 2019, 8:30 PM

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ah, yea that's probably normal and I think is great for us as customer 🙂

late sorrel Dec 18, 2019, 9:25 PM

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oh god northbridge

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I have heard the stories

radiant garnet Dec 18, 2019, 10:12 PM

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@brisk badger AMD didn't have nearly as many problems with spectre and meltdown, and in most newer problems found, they've been intel only... xD
Intel took a lot of shortcuts to gain extra performance, that's now biting them in the ass

vapid crypt Dec 18, 2019, 10:28 PM

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There have been several security exploits effecting Intel other than just Spectre and Meltdown. There's Zombieload which directly effects hyperthreading apparently there's a 2.0 of that as well. There's also Netcat, Intel is highly not secure right now. Its mostly concerning for those running servers and what not, but do know that all Intel processors are taking a hit to their performance because Intel has to include software mitigations to patch these holes.

late sorrel Dec 18, 2019, 10:43 PM

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yeah and then the processors take a big hit

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 3:02 AM

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I just installed a new graphics card and for some reason windows isnt detecting it. I tried some of the things online but nothing seems to work. Need help.

fleet canopy Dec 19, 2019, 3:03 AM

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Did you plug in the HDMI/VGA/DisplayPort wrong?

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There’s the motherboard and there’s the GPU you can plug in

rotund hawk Dec 19, 2019, 3:23 AM

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is it compatible with the motherboard?

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are all power cables for the card plugged in? including normally an extra power one for high end cards in the box?

vapid crypt Dec 19, 2019, 3:52 AM

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How do you know windows isn't detecting it?

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 4:01 AM

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HaHA

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Guess fucking what

#

I have a bad AIO pump

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Kill me

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Now

fleet canopy Dec 19, 2019, 4:02 AM

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F

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What’s bad about it? Shit quality or shit placement?

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 4:11 AM

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Pump just fucking broke

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Not moving water

#

No WONDER I’ve had a hotboi

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Going to use the stock cooler till I can get a replacement from Microcenter

fleet canopy Dec 19, 2019, 4:12 AM

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F

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 4:12 AM

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Its over 15 days but I’ll say it was a christmas present as I’m going back to Houston on the 28th

#

Apparently “christmas presents” can be returned until January

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So I’m gonna use that excuse

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if they don’t want to exchange it Ima throw hands. Figuratively. I don’t want to go to jail.

nocturne wave Dec 19, 2019, 5:01 AM

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I can not get GTFO to go on line, and it won't close and stays running even after I end the task. I was wondering if anyone knew how to fix this?

molten hull Dec 19, 2019, 5:29 AM

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Shed

rustic stump Dec 19, 2019, 7:07 AM

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AIO < High End or equivalently priced Air.

Unless you're in a very tight case, iTX or something that's a tighter than need be-mATX case

#

Plenty of articles down by multiple sites talking about this if you google. Tomshardware, Linus Tech Tips, but more importantly the numbers have already been crunched by hardware nerds and it's been common knowledge for years... hence why I got a D14 for silence + cooling capacity. High quality cooling, minimal noise generation

Prebuilt-Closed-Loop AIO's should not be your choice just because "oooo it's liquid". You need custom loop and the headache with that to actually get the performance gains. But most people online aren't people who overvolt and push actual limits.

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 7:36 AM

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does anyone know what the sample for a1 looks like

sick reef Dec 19, 2019, 8:06 AM

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"Headache" kekdoggo
The biggest annoyance is air bubbles, if you get them.
Though yes, an AIO is less or equal performance to good airsetup. but that also assumes good airflow/pressure.

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AIO needs pressure in, and airflow out. Air needs airflow in, airflow through with pressure on cooler, and airflow out.

#

But coming from a mechanical background, I guess I have a bias for simple constructions in contrast to efficiency. And it doesn't really, as a cooling system, get simpler than watercooling, having high heat CPU's.
For most average top-tier consumer products, air is good enough, limited by the airflow of the case.

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The watercooling statement disregarding having an Air Cooled Open Bench with an AC Unit connected to the room it is in, obviously.

fleet junco Dec 19, 2019, 11:10 AM

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NEEEEEEEEEEEEERDS

sick reef Dec 19, 2019, 12:06 PM

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Ye

fleet junco Dec 19, 2019, 12:06 PM

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w<

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 12:24 PM

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Question.. there is an gtx 1080ti brand new on a amazon verified trader reseller that costs 400€

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is that a scam or no?

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cause i see used 1080ti's go for 500+€

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 12:31 PM

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bad deal

#

just get an rtx 2060 or 2070

#

similar price point

fleet junco Dec 19, 2019, 12:32 PM

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I'd avoid the RTX series for now.

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They don't seem to be 'finished' just yet.

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 12:32 PM

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I wouldnt get anything higher then 6gb of vram

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for gpu

hazy summit Dec 19, 2019, 12:32 PM

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An RTX 2060 or 2070 still today doesn't beat a 1080TI imo, unless Ray-tracing is important the 1080TI is a good choice.

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 12:33 PM

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its about future proofing

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if similar price point just get newer one that can handle newer technologies

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not like it cost 400 dollars more

stiff rock Dec 19, 2019, 12:33 PM

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I'll just get 2080 ti in some months and call it a day

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 12:34 PM

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https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html

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there you go lol

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1080ti is beat by 2070

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by quite a bit

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and way cheaper

hazy summit Dec 19, 2019, 12:35 PM

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Ehm, not it's not?

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 12:35 PM

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omg go read lol

hazy summit Dec 19, 2019, 12:35 PM

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https://gyazo.com/185ec07854fde7edc930041cd8092159

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Literally on the site you sent

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1080TI beats 2070 xD

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 12:35 PM

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GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER
(75%)
14,843
499.99

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scroll up lol

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for few more dollars get the super

hazy summit Dec 19, 2019, 12:36 PM

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Lol yeah, the SUPER, which is a completely different card

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 12:36 PM

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which beats the 1080ti

hazy summit Dec 19, 2019, 12:36 PM

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Not what u said tho

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 12:36 PM

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2070 super costs a shtt for me

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 12:36 PM

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I said 2070

hazy summit Dec 19, 2019, 12:36 PM

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Yes

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Not 2070 super

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Different cards

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 12:36 PM

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omg semantics

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lol

hazy summit Dec 19, 2019, 12:36 PM

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Not at all

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Literally different cards

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 12:36 PM

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Ok so is a brand new 1080ti original package a scam? they wrote me this sec

hazy summit Dec 19, 2019, 12:36 PM

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Like saying 1080 and meaning a 1080TI

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 12:37 PM

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Hello The product is new in the original packaging. plus the operating instructions in different languages, German, French, English ... The price of the product includes the shipping costs, everywhere in Europe. If you are interested in a purchase, please send me the exact title of the product or the ASIN or LINK of the desired product, the name and delivery address and a phone number. As soon as I receive this information, I send the order to Amazon to start the transaction with Amazon ... The delivery is made by UPS or DHL and usually takes 2-5 working days. The entire process is done through the Amazon A-Z program. My right of return is the inspection period of 21 days, I look forward to your quick response and decision, Thank you for choosing to buy from us

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 12:37 PM

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i didnt say 2070 ti

hazy summit Dec 19, 2019, 12:37 PM

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No, but you said 2070 and meant the 2070 Super, THEY ARE DIFFERENT CARDS

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 12:37 PM

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obviously he didnt say what model or brand of 1080ti either

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 12:37 PM

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Gigabyte aorus

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Xtreme

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 12:37 PM

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okay get the rtx 2070 super its cheaper and better.

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there.

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my guy

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 12:38 PM

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Yeah if u give me 300€ more xD

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im up for it

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 12:38 PM

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euros

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?

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 12:38 PM

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ye

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pretty shty price for me in croatia

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costs waaaay 2 much

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 12:38 PM

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sorry thought it was euros

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1 dollar is .90 euros

hazy summit Dec 19, 2019, 12:39 PM

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It is euros? xD

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 12:39 PM

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it is ?

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 12:39 PM

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okay so how is 300 dolalrs more?

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 12:39 PM

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let me get you the price

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 12:39 PM

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yes it is

hazy summit Dec 19, 2019, 12:39 PM

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Oh, you misread, he meant we hould need another 300 euros for a 2070 Super

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 12:39 PM

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2070 super get it for 500 dollars

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 12:39 PM

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tf

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if i could get it for 500$ then hell yeah xD

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 12:40 PM

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500 usd

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 12:40 PM

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Lemme get it.. but this is not the position im in

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rtx cards cost me above 600$

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1080ti is much a better deal

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 12:40 PM

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500 usd =539.53 euros

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is europe way more expenisve just for shipping reasons?

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and manufacturing?

hazy summit Dec 19, 2019, 12:41 PM

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For us here in Sweden a lot of it comes down to taxes

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 12:41 PM

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yes

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 12:41 PM

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yea sweden is like highest tax rate in europe right?

hazy summit Dec 19, 2019, 12:41 PM

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Nope

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But pretty high

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Like 3rd or so

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 12:41 PM

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ok guys i made up my mind tbh i dont want an rtx series lol, i am going for gtx series

hazy summit Dec 19, 2019, 12:41 PM

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Norway is even higher tho 😛

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 12:41 PM

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we have 25% VAT

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in croatia

hazy summit Dec 19, 2019, 12:42 PM

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If you can, i'd say go for a Super card tho

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 12:42 PM

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@hazy summit please do tell me if the guy is trying to scam me with that offer on amazon for 400€ on a brand new 1080ti

hazy summit Dec 19, 2019, 12:43 PM

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I have no clue tbh, no clue what used cards go for.

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 12:43 PM

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ahh on average compared to us the top 5 europe tax countires are a little over 10% of us.

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 12:43 PM

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its a new one xD

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not used ahahha

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 12:43 PM

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10% still decent amount of extra tax

hazy summit Dec 19, 2019, 12:43 PM

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A new 1080TI for €400? Sounds fishy tbh

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 12:43 PM

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I dont see how you are getting at 1080ti new.

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yea

stiff rock Dec 19, 2019, 12:43 PM

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I never bought anything that says "used" on amazon

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 12:43 PM

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for most part used stuff from reputal companies is better then new

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 12:43 PM

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Nomad what is the fps difference on 2070 super?

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 12:43 PM

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because its tested and they dont want it returned

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 12:43 PM

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and 1080ti

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 12:44 PM

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hold on

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bettter question

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what monitor do you have

hazy summit Dec 19, 2019, 12:44 PM

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Good question!

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 12:44 PM

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240hz

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gsync

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 12:44 PM

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okay lol

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 12:44 PM

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xD

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 12:44 PM

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if he was like 60mhz

hazy summit Dec 19, 2019, 12:44 PM

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xD

stiff rock Dec 19, 2019, 12:44 PM

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Wait what

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 12:44 PM

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xD

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 12:44 PM

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i be like no need lol

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 12:44 PM

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i wanna get like 235 fps on like all games at high-ultra

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kekw

hazy summit Dec 19, 2019, 12:44 PM

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I'd say, 2070 Super is better than the 1080TI, because of the better memory and newer architecture, running GDDR6 makes quite the difference.

stiff rock Dec 19, 2019, 12:45 PM

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Doubt that will happen

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 12:45 PM

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Forever alone

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 12:45 PM

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coffe2go

stiff rock Dec 19, 2019, 12:45 PM

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Some games on ultra even with 2080 ti run around 140 fps

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 12:45 PM

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can you link your monitor for me

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 12:45 PM

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Uhh just google alienware 240hz

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 12:45 PM

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https://www.amazon.com/Alienware-25-Gaming-Monitor-Height-Adjustable/dp/B0733YCKM5?

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https://www.amazon.com/Alienware-25-Gaming-Monitor-Height-Adjustable/dp/B0733YCKM5

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 12:46 PM

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yes

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thats the one

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 12:47 PM

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what games are you playing?

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 12:47 PM

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r6s, rl, division 2

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 12:48 PM

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what graphics card you have now?

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 12:48 PM

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1070

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 12:48 PM

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then you dont need upgrade.

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 12:48 PM

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I do

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 12:48 PM

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your screen is only 1080p anyways

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why?

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 12:48 PM

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cause of my ocd

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 12:48 PM

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upgrade your montior to atleast 2k

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 12:48 PM

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no i dont like higher res

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 12:48 PM

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od?

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ocd?

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 12:48 PM

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i want to reach high af fps

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on 1080p

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yes ocd

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i hate seeing lower fps counter

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and feeling how sht the smoothnes has become

eternal venture Dec 19, 2019, 12:50 PM

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2k 144hz is better

hazy summit Dec 19, 2019, 12:50 PM

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Then save up some more and slap a banging 2080Ti or something in your rig

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1070 really is not a bad card and it's not like you need the upgrade t orun anything

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I'd sya wait and save some more

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 12:50 PM

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your not going to get over 150fps

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 12:50 PM

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0_0 2080ti xD

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 12:50 PM

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even with overclocked 1080

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 12:51 PM

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u know how much it is haahaha

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 12:51 PM

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rs6 wont go 240

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 12:51 PM

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like 2000€

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 12:51 PM

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your never going to get your monitors fps in rs6 atm

hazy summit Dec 19, 2019, 12:51 PM

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Yes, it was an example of a better card

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 12:51 PM

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just get 2k monitor, and 2070 super

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and call it a day lol

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 12:51 PM

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ik its sitting at 140 fps on medium in r6s for me

hazy summit Dec 19, 2019, 12:52 PM

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What's your CPU?

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 12:52 PM

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how is it 140fps on a 1070 lol

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 12:52 PM

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So i could get like an 2080ti via my boss he removes VAT

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9900k is my cpu

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😂

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and i OCed my 1070

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 12:53 PM

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hold on what is your goal here?

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to get 240fps?

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 12:53 PM

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yeah pretty mich

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much*

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 12:53 PM

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because thats not going to happen lol

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 12:53 PM

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why not

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🙃

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 12:53 PM

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rs6 wont hit that

hazy summit Dec 19, 2019, 12:53 PM

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In most games it's just not gonna hit that

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 12:53 PM

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how come 5700 xt hit it

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 12:53 PM

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yea lol

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 12:53 PM

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xD

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on ultra

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📎 unknown-35.png

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 12:54 PM

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show me where lol

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 12:55 PM

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1080ti hit 274

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 12:55 PM

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on low lol

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you said yours is on ultra lol

hazy summit Dec 19, 2019, 12:55 PM

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No, according to that it hit 274 on ultra

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 12:55 PM

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your going to spend mad money on a 1080ti to max your grahpics low ll

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 12:55 PM

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what ?

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xD

hazy summit Dec 19, 2019, 12:55 PM

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Look at the graph again

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 12:55 PM

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XD

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im legit dying rn

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 12:56 PM

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lol

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Nomad please help me out here lol

hazy summit Dec 19, 2019, 12:56 PM

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On low it hit 389 Average according to the graph

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That's the 1080TI

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274 average was Ultra, according to the graph

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 12:56 PM

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and the guy who tested it is a verified youtuber

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that does tech reviews

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so yeah

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i believe it

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more or less depends on hardware correct?

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i mean sure i would love 2080ti

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but i dont have patience to wait like half a yr

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to save up

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my budget rn is like 500-600$

hazy summit Dec 19, 2019, 12:58 PM

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Wait, you'd have the money for a 2080Ti in half a year? Everythign else would be a bad choice in that case

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 12:58 PM

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indeed

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 12:58 PM

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show me more evidence then one youtuber

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 12:58 PM

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Im in bed

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i will when i get up and make coffee

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 12:58 PM

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everything im finding on google isnt showing anything at 240fps other low to medium settings

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ok cool

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 12:58 PM

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sec

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 12:59 PM

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np interested to know.

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 12:59 PM

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📎 unknown-36.png

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here is up againts 5700 xt

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 12:59 PM

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okay

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still for price point I would still get 2070 super

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better all around.

hazy summit Dec 19, 2019, 1:00 PM

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Yep

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 1:00 PM

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I have a question what made you get a 25inch monitor

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seems weird to me you didnt get 24 or 27inch

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Never seen anyone with a 25inch

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 1:01 PM

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its actually 24.5"

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but yeah idk

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the cash was low xD

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wallet has spoken

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and umm

cerulean cradle Dec 19, 2019, 1:01 PM

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Can you try that on 2k?

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 1:01 PM

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rtx 2080ti costs 785€

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used - like new

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kekw

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even without VAT over my boss company.. i have to pay 1200€

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👌 👌 👌

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 1:03 PM

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what is vat

#

?

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 1:03 PM

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Taxes

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 1:03 PM

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okay

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what does your boss have to do with it?

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 1:03 PM

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he has a company that can order I.T parts without taxes

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i can get over him the parts

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 1:04 PM

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oh shit niceu

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 1:04 PM

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as i did with my cpi

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 1:04 PM

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thats sick.

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 1:04 PM

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but still thisbis waayy too expensive

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im so fucking sad and let down

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xqcHug

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 1:04 PM

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yea that is why get 2070super

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8gb vram which dont need anymore unless doing 4k which even then its only few more fps then 6gb

eternal venture Dec 19, 2019, 1:04 PM

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rainbow six I get like 500 fps lol

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 1:04 PM

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and shitty anyways

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4k gamming sucks currently with fps and shit

eternal venture Dec 19, 2019, 1:05 PM

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4k not worth

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2k much better

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 1:05 PM

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I dont want anything lower then 140fps

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2k is nice right now

eternal venture Dec 19, 2019, 1:05 PM

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I have 144 fps stable on almost any game in 2k

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even the new cod

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(all ultra)

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 1:05 PM

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oof

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which gpu

eternal venture Dec 19, 2019, 1:05 PM

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asus 2080ti

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9900ks

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 1:06 PM

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how much u paid

eternal venture Dec 19, 2019, 1:06 PM

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1200?

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 1:06 PM

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oof

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ima die

eternal venture Dec 19, 2019, 1:06 PM

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I have 2 pc same machine

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 1:06 PM

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lol

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 1:06 PM

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tbh i could theoretically go for 1080ti and get scammed xD.. cause i doubt this guy is trusted on amazon

eternal venture Dec 19, 2019, 1:07 PM

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I just bought a new computer for my gf

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 1:07 PM

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Lmao

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 1:07 PM

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just play minecraft on rasberry pi lol

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call it a day

eternal venture Dec 19, 2019, 1:07 PM

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2080ti and 9900ks as well

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xD

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 1:07 PM

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and this is why i wanna be a female

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i would sell my body for pc

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👌

eternal venture Dec 19, 2019, 1:07 PM

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just work :P

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 1:07 PM

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I am xd

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for 100€ a month xD

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👌

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 1:07 PM

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Just got for 2070 and forget about that scammer lol

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 1:07 PM

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pog champ

eternal venture Dec 19, 2019, 1:07 PM

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that's what I make to turn on the pc

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 1:07 PM

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gj

eternal venture Dec 19, 2019, 1:07 PM

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change job

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:D

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 1:08 PM

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cant

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im 17 xD

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working illegally

eternal venture Dec 19, 2019, 1:08 PM

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you have time then

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17 I had nothing too

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:D

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 1:08 PM

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welp

eternal venture Dec 19, 2019, 1:08 PM

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I remember playing wow with 2 fps in city

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 1:08 PM

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if i save up till im 25

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Rtx titan ftw

eternal venture Dec 19, 2019, 1:08 PM

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ahah when you are 25 there is gonna be much better tech

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 1:09 PM

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meh when ima be 25 im prolly gonna not be interested

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as im loosing intrest rn

eternal venture Dec 19, 2019, 1:09 PM

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mmm in gaming?

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 1:09 PM

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yea

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altho im playing semi professional at rocket league for money

eternal venture Dec 19, 2019, 1:10 PM

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to be honest I play a lot because also my girlfriend is a gamer

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 1:10 PM

#

still nth bounds me to games anymore

eternal venture Dec 19, 2019, 1:10 PM

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but I wouldn't play so much without her probably

#

so in a sense I can understand you

#

I got bored for a while as well

#

I got bored of gaming and I started to nerd on books and uni

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but the monkey came back this year

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:D

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 1:11 PM

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hell yea

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I grind life like a game and get those achivements

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in real life.

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 1:11 PM

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xD

eternal venture Dec 19, 2019, 1:11 PM

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life is a game where you are always online and achievements never expire

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 1:11 PM

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going for like 12 or 13 IT certs in next year and half.

eternal venture Dec 19, 2019, 1:12 PM

#

where do you work cross

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 1:12 PM

#

NYS Lottery, I do networking

eternal venture Dec 19, 2019, 1:12 PM

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uh I study cybersecurity, so I do network as well

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 1:12 PM

#

working my way into cybersecurity side and data assurnace

#

same lol

#

I taking my CEH next year

#

Im*

eternal venture Dec 19, 2019, 1:13 PM

#

I will be doing my placement in july

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 1:13 PM

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getting my security plust this month.

#

yea you need know networking to do cybersecurity stuff and vice versa they go hand and hand

eternal venture Dec 19, 2019, 1:13 PM

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yeah... but I have already signed a contract as software engineer

#

I'll see later for cybersec

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as I'm interested in pen test

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I added you as friend ;)

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 1:15 PM

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oh nice thanks

#

pen tes

#

i dabbled a little in that my self

#

Ultimate end goal 1 is possibly be white hat

sage hound Dec 19, 2019, 1:49 PM

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@spiral hill Good Luck with the CEH. CEH, ECSA and CISSP myself

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 1:51 PM

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Thanks man 🙂

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Going to be tough but like challenges

sage hound Dec 19, 2019, 1:58 PM

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Sure, I was actually lucky enough to get work to pay for Hacker Halted last year and took the 4 day boot camp to do the EC Council Certified Security Analyst which was a fun pen testing course.

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 2:05 PM

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just passed my ITIL foundations v3 last week

#

that was fun

pseudo pivot Dec 19, 2019, 2:40 PM

#

Game have support 21:9,

#

?

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 2:59 PM

#

@rustic stump However, I move my setup somewhat frequently. So an AIO is safer than your conventional tower cooler.

#

Once I replace my bad pump, I’ll be fine.

#

I chose liquid. I’ll deal with the consequences of liquid.

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 3:03 PM

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for the most part aio are like 99.99% reliable

#

never knew anyone who had a corsair all in one that leaked

jade ermine Dec 19, 2019, 3:12 PM

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Leaking is not the only problem. Poor fluid choice, Pump issues and fluid evaporating are things to consider when buying one.

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I mean enermax had small civilizations growing in their TR4 AIO's lol

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 3:15 PM

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i go with corsair for liquid cooling and psu

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msi for motherboards, and asus for gpu

#

intel cpu

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corsair for ddr as well.

#

samsuns for ssd

#

samsung*

tawny tundra Dec 19, 2019, 3:34 PM

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not using ryzen in 2019

granite schooner Dec 19, 2019, 3:36 PM

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I am using a geforce gtx 1650

floral elm Dec 19, 2019, 3:36 PM

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Anyone building a new computer should absolutely consider ryzen. In the past I would have never gone with AMD, but now there is no reason not too.

granite schooner Dec 19, 2019, 3:39 PM

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Never been a fan of liquid cooling

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 3:42 PM

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https://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

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Ryze are making comeback.

#

ryzens*

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 3:58 PM

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Shintel better get a move on before they get left behind

vapid crypt Dec 19, 2019, 4:12 PM

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They won't have anything really good until after 2020, Their next release is just gonna continue Skylake; but 2 more cores over Coffeelake. Nothing special

#

I guess its nice to see that they're actually giving i5s hyperthreading phaWesker

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 4:31 PM

#

yea

#

I7 is basically i5

#

with hyperthreading

#

most people dont need the more cores thoug because of threads

#

so I5 is good at the moment with turbo boost technology.

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 5:10 PM

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3600 kinda cleans the floor at that price range

#

Costs less

#

With about the same performance

vapid crypt Dec 19, 2019, 5:12 PM

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Dunno how much they're gonna cost, but its pretty lame that it took them 3 ryzen generations to give comparable thread counts at that price point

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 5:13 PM

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Thats true

#

But AMD’s “leapfrog” release method had been effective in pushing sales while continuously improving the tech.

#

Its taken three generations to reach the same level as Intel’s 8th

#

That says something

vapid crypt Dec 19, 2019, 5:16 PM

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The IPC clock for clock is already better, the only thing intel has is super high clocks; granted at the cost of energy and heat

abstract kite Dec 19, 2019, 5:17 PM

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Yup

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 7:18 PM

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https://www.amazon.com/G-Skill-Trident-3200Mhz-PC4-25600-Channel/dp/B07LD43HMG/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=Trident+Z+royal&qid=1576783085&s=electronics&sr=1-5

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sick looking

turbid apex Dec 19, 2019, 7:48 PM

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so my PC specs meet and surpase the requirments. Any idea why it might be capping at 30 fps

vapid crypt Dec 19, 2019, 7:50 PM

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Screenshot your game settings, and share your specs. A common mistake is people running a new pc with no drivers installed, or having the display plugged into the motherboard HDMI

turbid apex Dec 19, 2019, 7:50 PM

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I can send you a screenshot later. I am in class right now

vapid crypt Dec 19, 2019, 7:50 PM

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Not the graphics card itself, which well in order to use the graphics card you have to be plugged into it

turbid apex Dec 19, 2019, 7:52 PM

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I don't know how to reply to that. I wanted to make a sarcastic remark but then I didn't want to sound stupid or like a Jack A**

vapid crypt Dec 19, 2019, 7:54 PM

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I mean seriously, a number of people have came looking for help because their framerate was poor; and most of the time it was because their display was plugged into the motherboard with the integrated graphics phaWesker

turbid apex Dec 19, 2019, 7:54 PM

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XD

spiral hill Dec 19, 2019, 7:55 PM

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TXCF4JR?creativeASIN=B07TXCF4JR&imprToken=Fl8v-iy9HbzqCYh7nwstjA&slotNum=10&tag=wepcus-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

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81% off

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damm a deal

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just to resell lol

vapid crypt Dec 19, 2019, 7:55 PM

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I can understand making that mistake if you say: move the computer and you didn't really realize where the cable was plugged in; so you just put it where ever