If they're in the wrong slots it could cost issues
#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk
vapid crypt
I remember getting blue screens of deaths constantly cause I made that mistake initially
I suppose the issues would vary depending on the memory and motherboard
fallen gazelle
Just found out about this game today, looks and sounds amazing, how does it run guys?
have a 6700k + 2080ti my expectations aren't that crazy since I play tarkov haha
vapid crypt
Oh you'll be fine 
fallen gazelle
now all I gotta do is convince my friends to buy it
vapid crypt
I guess relative performance, someone said they were getting like over 180fps with a 8700k and a 1080ti
This game is GPU dependent for sure
rugged void
what is max render queue frames and what should I set that to on GTFO?
vapid crypt
I have no idea, I just leave it at default
rugged void
@vapid crypt how about cpu culling workload?
vapid crypt
That makes it so the CPU has more or less load with the game. Like in my case the game does 100% my gpu, so I set it to high. Not really sure if it helped all that much, but it is kind of a pain in the ass to stream otherwise 
Well probably, I imagine the V-sync made it better before CPU culling
rugged void
ok thanks
pliant spruce
Does anyone have recommended settings for high-end pc's like the best looking settings quality over performance sort of stuff
strong whale
Turning your settings up?
naive shore
Hi guys I am currently playing this game at my low specs a8-7600/GTX660 and it doesnt have a problem for me but as the game take longer sometimes it does stutter but without discord it doesnt
strong whale
do you have hardware acceleration turned on on discord
vapid crypt
That's just discord taking up cpu resources, well likely anyway
naive shore
sorry i am kinda new in discord, i dnt know about that. and sometimes as the discord takes longer too the voice chat became roboticsh sound
vapid crypt
I remember playing Warframe on a crappy laptop trying to use Discord at the same time, everything would fuck up
strong whale
if you mean the vc's in this discord that's normal
vapid crypt
Yeah just exit the channel and re enter
strong whale
between 400-500 people in vc's at a time here
vapid crypt
The connection seems to be pretty spotty on this server likely because there are so many people
naive shore
oh i see is that it? i thought it was mine, so i have to reconnect to our groupvoicechat to fix it so
how do i change the discord eating too much cpu resources
vapid crypt
I don't think you can
abstract kite
Yea
vapid crypt
It needs to use a bit to run the voice chat
strong whale
you can't, the setting hardware acceleration is using more of your gpu to help with poor performance, unfortunately your processor is a little potatoey so there's not much to help that
naive shore
overall its all good anyway.. just that problem, i guess i have to withstand with it and wait for in game communications
strong whale
honestly best thing is to find a group of people to play with here and get into a private vc/group call with them
naive shore
i see dont use the room in here?
strong whale
to avoid the robot voice issues and such yeah
naive shore
thank you for that Ü
strong whale
np
abstract kite
@vapid crypt I love you, my ram positioning was the issue
Moved it to 2 and 4
Works fine
vapid crypt
Ah, well the QVL list was merely coincidence
abstract kite
and, for some fucking reason, benching with AIDA64 again, and I'm not hitting 80C
period
😣
No
I guess with AMD, anything's possible lol
Oo
...
My phone and my fast typing
somehow moving the ram made my processor cooler?
nani the fuck
vapid crypt
Its basically just a list of confirmed kits that work with the motherboard
Uh I don't have an explanation for that
abstract kite
If the ram wasnt compatible it would've failed post
vapid crypt
Well works at the correct speed
abstract kite
But yea, I'm hitting 79C which is still in the green. Sometimes hitting 80C but immediately dropping back down
Unsure if I've hit equilibrium with the water temp in my cooler just yet
going to run it a bit longer, but god damn, this one fucking issue somehow did a lot of things.
Oof
vapid crypt
80 seems high for water, especially considering its not even a prime95 load
That's more stressful than Aida I think
Then again I dunno I think my peak on prime95 was 72 on air, but its a 2600
abstract kite
Well, my fans aren't running past 55%
So in sacrificing some temp I have a fairly quiet system
Ryzen 3 runs hotter than Ryzen 2 iirc
From what I've seen I'm on the higher side (?) of the norm
But I'm satisfied with my temps and everything
jovial vector
You can't ramp up your fans in BIOS @abstract kite ?
abstract kite
@jovial vector Not the radiator fans. Those are connected to the pump itself. I can control my exhaust fans from the BIOS, but they already have a pretty good curve.
The only iffy thing Ive noticed is that the radiator fans ramp up based on the water temp and not the CPU temp. Its easy to compensate for by adjusting the fan curve, but it’s humorous that Corsair would be dumb enough to make that decision.
I could easily ramp the fans up to 75% when the water reaches 30C. That would potentially push equilibrium down to around 76-79C (from 78-80), but I cant seem to justify the noise it would produce for about 2-3C.
I’ll play around with it and see what’s best. Could definitely tweak it more, but I think I’ve got it to be as good as it’ll probably get (or at least within a 5% margin).
I’d love to try to get it stabilized around 76 if possible, but damn that would make my PC a jet engine. The Meshify C case doesn’t have sound dampening like my old one. lol
dull tundra
Is it known issue that the enemies in the game stutter (Low animation fps 30?) Also pretty much all the shots I fired at enemies got registered with huge latency if at all.
Or is this issue related to latency between Host and the players? The game itself runs without single fps drop smoothly.
abstract kite
@dull tundra I’ve dealt with similar issues, and from what my team and I could tell, it’s probably a connection issue. When we had a centralized host, the issue was less prevalent.
Ask where all your team members are located, and have the most centralized player host the game.
See if that clears the issue up. It may still happen, but at least this is a start lol
dull tundra
Yes thank you 🙂 Good to know it's just about the connection. Maybe in future it gets improved at some point too.
abstract kite
The game is currently pier to pier, so all connections are based on the players. GTFO doesn’t have dedicated servers at the moment.
Don’t know if it’ll dedicated servers tbh.
Its been fine for the most part as P2P.
Just hafta watch who’s hosting lol
dull tundra
Perhaps there could be option to host dedicated servers for players in future, if they rent server them self?
crimson dock
My I7 is running at 58 max
verbal bridge
languid holly
every time i load up the game closes after 5 sec on load screen
i played last night fine
brisk badger
check windows event viewer logs, under the category applications
frosty sable
same thing
kindred forge
i did realize my new mobo came with a cd for drivers and it came with a 3 way sata splitter
brisk badger
@quiet cave @frosty sable
The Beta has ended and it's no longer possible to play.
You can instead buy GTFO on Steam to get access
quiet cave
Thanks
frosty sable
Ok, thanks for your help
kindred forge
would a 1660 ti 6gb gddr6 gpu go good with a ryzen 5 2600x
im looking at upgrade out of taxes
and i originaly wanted 2 go with a rx 5700 but i dont like the fact that it requires a 8pin and 6pin power to power it up
vapid crypt
At this point the 1660 Super is about as good and cheaper on average
And tbh the difference between the X and non-x models of Ryzen cpus are really small, especially if you understand overclocking, though I guess the 2600X does have a better stock cooler
brisk badger
The 5700xt uses around 160w.very little. The 8+6pin is nice for extreme overclocking i guess
zinc wharf
Hi Guys,
I am considering getting GTFO, but I am not quite sure whether it is reasonable to play on my laptop ...
To my specs in the laptop:
CPU: Intel Core i5-8300H @ 2.30GHz
8GB 2667MHz Ram
Graphics card: Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050ti 4GB
What do you think, will it be playable without problems or rather not?
Thank you for your answer 🙂
fleet canopy
Yeah you might be able to play it @zinc wharf
Unsure of the CPU, but it shouldn’t be too bad for you
paper yarrow
just waiting now to save some money to buy a cpu for my motherboard
unless some one could help me with one i can get back to gaming !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
vapid crypt
Interesting stuff, how much did you get all that for?
fleet canopy
700$ I bet
vapid crypt
It's 3.3 but its compressed, it unpacks into 10gb
zinc wharf
its nice, only 50 min for downloading 😄
abstract kite
@paper yarrow If you can, buy this: https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-5-2600/p/N82E16819113496
errant otter
anyone running the game on an RX580?
vapid crypt
I am
abstract kite
@fleet canopy Considering my PC is uber quiet, thats phenomenal.
@copper zealot Ryzen 3700X
copper zealot
What processor?
knotty cosmos
only in D1 does my game crash causing my computer to restart when it happens. Has this happened to anyone else
knotty cosmos
i dont see a blue screen so i think its just a hard restart
but its only ever happened on D1
vapid crypt
Has it ever happened before, not while playing this game just doing anything else?
vapid crypt
Really unusual, are your drivers up to date?
vapid crypt
Well look into updating your Graphics card driver, not sure if this is the solution. But out of date drivers can cause some weird things. God forbid its a hardware issue, but probably unlikely.
chrome pumice
vapid crypt
Uh, well not here
knotty cosmos
@vapid crypt I just checked update for graphic and driver and it say it's up to date
fleet canopy
I heard Windows 10 updater isn't always the best apparently?
vapid crypt
Oh if you're checking through windows update it won't get the latest driver
fleet canopy
Just gotta get it from the manufacture's website I believe?
vapid crypt
Yeah that's always the best, be it Nvidia or AMD
knotty cosmos
how do i go threw nvidia
vapid crypt
Go to their website
knotty cosmos
got it
vapid crypt
If they are up to date, consider uninstalling and reinstalling
ancient rampart
Probably redundant, does anyone know if controller works?
vapid crypt
No native support anyway
fleet canopy
Do i need to do manual or is Nvidia's automictic driver updates alright?
vapid crypt
I wouldn't know, but personally whenever I update the driver I do it manually and I uninstall the old drivers first
molten acorn
I also uninstall the drivers first and then I go to the Nvidia website
Just remember to get the DCH version of the drivers or it won't work
fleet canopy
How would I know my card's driver?
molten acorn
Ohhhh
You can right click and open Nvidia control panel
and
I can't find it
Oh
System Information on the bottom
fleet canopy
Still ain't bad
sharp osprey
Hey everyone, was wondering if the game can run on my laptop.
The GPU is GTX 950M 4 GB
and the Processor is Intel Core i7-7500U 2.7 GHz and can boost up to 3.5 GHz
But that'll kill it most likely
hexed wedge
@sharp osprey How much ram?
I think the CPU and GPU are both a bit too week to handle the game, especially the gpu, but don't quote me on that
hexed wedge
Yeah, I don't think it's powerful enough, it'd have issues with the bare minimum as is
radiant garnet
@sharp osprey you might be able to play the game at low settings and resolution. maybe. If it's the GDDR5 version of the 950M, I'd say 'maybe'. If it's the DDR3 version, I don't think so at all. It depends on what settings their minimum is set at. If the min spec is for 1280x720 at 30FPS, you won't have a good time. If the min is for 1920x1080 at 60, you should be able to play at 1280x720 and get about 30-40fps using all kinds of guessing and interpolation and other inaccurate approximations.
brisk badger
stop playing games on your notebook! And don't buy expensive notebooks, that's the worst
Buy a proper Computer with decent specs, configure Steam Streaming
Buy a cheap ass notebook and enjoy playing (streaming) games in highest quality while your notebook remains cool
You can stream from anywhere in the world as long as you know the basics of VPN's
I can play GTFO from my chinese tablet with 120FPS+ just because i can
And Smile I think your specs are okay for the game, surely more than 30 fps on lower settings
sharp osprey
@radiant garnet it is GDDR5
@brisk badger this notebook was the one that I could afford. It had the highest specs for it's price
the rest were either integrated graphic cards
or 940MX which is even worse
radiant garnet
@sharp osprey Consider building a desktop from used parts. Laptops are notoriously bad performance/cost, and that's before you take into account the tiny 'power budget' allotted each part.
sharp osprey
If I were to build one then it
then it'll be next year or so
like in 2020 or 2021
I guess I'll have to wait for the game to come out on PS4
if it comes out on PS5 then I'm done for
🙂
radiant garnet
Used parts are a valid option! Only part I would advice against used is a PSU. Partially because a good one that'll last you a decade is only about 100$€£ for a good one with enough wattage for a normal PC, and because it's the single component that will do the most harm if it fails.
sharp osprey
nah nah
its not about the price
this is my senior year at school
and I hope to study abroad
so it doesn't seem like a good idea to build a PC and then leave
vapid crypt
I mean you could take it with you... though tbh I wouldn't trust airlines with my computer fuck that
radiant garnet
You can build a PC that's small and light enough to go in your carry-on!
vapid crypt
Yeah Mini-ITX
radiant garnet
mATX is plenty small for that, don't have to go the more expensive route
vapid crypt
Yeah I suppose it depends on the case you get
sharp osprey
xD
I don't think it's a good idea to have a bag with computer parts
they might not allow it on the airplane
dusty pumice
Sir are you carrying a bomb?
magic canopy
hallo suche noch 2 komplizen für channel gtfo 49
dusty pumice
What are all these cables for?
@magic canopy This is not a looking for group channel
vapid crypt
Just imagining dumb questions from TSA
I'm now reminded how someone was detained because they saw "bitcoin" in their bag
dusty pumice
Lmfao
sharp osprey
xD
I ain't but idk
well
I might consider building one
I mean they're scared of water bottles
imagine having a PC
brisk badger
well you can do harm with pc parts, especially with a PSU
sharp osprey
hollow knot
Would it be in the realm of possibility to run GTFO on an Athlon 200GE at 720p with low settings?
vapid crypt
Uh, what is that Vega 8?
Oh its Vega 3
Yeah I'm gonna say probably not
To give you perspective, my buddy on a i3 and r9 270 (Which is roughtly in the realm of a GTX 1050) was getting 30fps low at 1080p, A dual core APU likely won't run this
stiff rock
@sharp osprey i'm able to run it on the lowest settings at around 50 fps, and i've got a gtx960 with 4gb, an I3-6100 (dual core and 3.70GHz) and 16gb of ram DDR4. i feel like you would be fine
either way, you can buy it and play it less than 2 hours and refound it
to test if it works for you
Dual core CPU has been working for me, but that's only cause i've got a lot of RAM in reserve
vapid crypt
Not so much the CPU in the case of the 200GE as is the integrated graphics, Vega 3 isn't really meant for playing the latest and greatest
gritty falcon
Would this game run with a Ryzen 3?
fleet canopy
Depends on CPU
wicked bone
Have you tried unplugging it and plugging it back in?
vapid crypt
Ryzen 3s are all Quad cores, either 4 core 4 thread or 4 core 8 thread; so yes that is at least the intended minimum or recommended
radiant garnet
@stiff rock what resolution?
stiff rock
1080p
radiant garnet
Nice! Wait, is that the desktop version of that GPU?
fleet canopy
Feel like it'd be a PC
stiff rock
Yes @radiant garnet (if you mean the gtx960)
i made this pc 2 years ago so right now it's a bit outdated
stiff rock
it can usually run games around 50-60fps at lowest settings, a bit more depending on the game
abstract kite
So I love the game but I have a problem. My computer can't handle the game and I can barely see the monsters while I am at 20 fps. I have a pretty good computer and I don't know if I need a better graphic card or there are framerate problems with the game. If anyone has the same problem or is willing to help me I would be grateful if you could tell me.
cobalt anvil
What GPU and CPU does your computer have?
abstract kite
grapchic card?
cobalt anvil
GPU = Graphics card yeah
fleet canopy
Core Processing Unit
abstract kite
oh
cobalt anvil
i7 or i5
hexed wedge
If you go to your pc, open the file explorer, right click my computer and select properties
Should tell you everything you need
fleet canopy
You can also open up System Info. It will tell you right away
abstract kite
UHD
hexed wedge
something along those lines
abstract kite
?
radiant garnet
@abstract kite Try lowering the texture setting.
vapid crypt
Yeah that Vram is hell on texture resolution
abstract kite
lowering the texture setting?
vapid crypt
There's a texture size setting
abstract kite
oh
radiant garnet
Yeah, with 3GB of VRAM, that might be limiting you
abstract kite
but do you think it is worth getting a new graphics card?
hexed wedge
Do you game regularly?
vapid crypt
If you can afford it, its not a bad idea
vapid crypt
It is yes
fleet canopy
UHD graphics 630 isn't really anything
vapid crypt
Well that's the onboard graphics
abstract kite
I have around 40-50 hours the past 2 weeks
vapid crypt
That doesn't matter
abstract kite
what does that even mean lol?
vapid crypt
Are you using Windows 10?
fleet canopy
Find this
abstract kite
yep
fleet canopy
RAM may also help
vapid crypt
Open the start menu
abstract kite
I cant see anything hehe
fleet canopy
Type in "System Information" in the search bar thing
abstract kite
I have already done that
vapid crypt
Next to Processor
fleet canopy
Yeah
vapid crypt
Huh
fleet canopy
Oh that's not too bad
Could use an overclock, but you don't know how to do that either
vapid crypt
I didn't know the base clock was so low on those
fleet canopy
Maybe it's underclocked
vapid crypt
I doubt it
fleet canopy
Oh it is base
vapid crypt
Hmm yeah it boosts to 4
fleet canopy
Not bad speed at least
vapid crypt
Just one question
radiant garnet
@fleet canopy not a 'K' CPU, no overclock with intel
vapid crypt
Cause this is a common mistake some people make
fleet canopy
Oh yeah that's kind of shit
vapid crypt
Is your monitor plugged into the graphics card?
abstract kite
what
fleet canopy
One of the most common mistakes that I admit, did it once or twice before
Basically
fleet canopy
There are two ports for your cord to plug in
vapid crypt
Yes it has video ports on its rear
fleet canopy
One connects to the motherboard. You don't want that
vapid crypt
You need to plug the monitor into those ports of the graphics card
fleet canopy
The other connects to the GPU
sacred crystal
Hey, we are having the issue that the drop is taking forever. Any of you experienced this before?
We have been waiting for about 10 minutes now
vapid crypt
vapid crypt
But yeah when its plugged into the motherboard HDMI port then its using the CPUs graphics, which is typically only good for basic desktop use, browsing and really light games
abstract kite
I have another discord account for my phone (don't ask ehy I have 2)
Maybe I could take photos of my computer
fleet canopy
vapid crypt
All we would need is the rear where the cables are going in
fleet canopy
That's how the back of the PC is, and also which belongs to what
abstract kite
wait
let me send you some photos ofd my computer
give me a moment
hold up
I have to be a member for 10 minutes
RIP
fleet canopy
F
abstract kite
but
2 cables are going from the computer to the monitor. One is going from the computer to an electrical outlet
fleet canopy
Not much tbh. An image would help greatly
abstract kite
correction* 2 cables are going to an electrical outlet
ye the image will come soon ehhe
just need to wait a few more mins
fleet canopy
That's ihh
tribal patio
Wait let me get a better pic
opaque oyster
looks like you are plugged into your motherboard and not your graphics card.
fleet canopy
Lemme draw where to put it
tribal patio
fleet canopy
What's that cord? HMDI?
tribal patio
It is going to the monitor
celest jolt
^
tribal patio
The one at the top is the HDMI
vapid crypt
Yeah its just not plugged into the the graphics card
fleet canopy
Sorry for awful draw but here
tribal patio
Oh
celest jolt
XD
celest jolt
Fuck now you've made me self Concious now I need to check
fleet canopy
Hahaha
tribal patio
Thank you so much
vapid crypt
If it were a ryzen machine, you'd have no picture
tribal patio
For your patience
fleet canopy
Doesn't Ryzen have like onboard GPU for all CPUs?
vapid crypt
No
fleet canopy
It's alright. You're welcome anytime Ville
vapid crypt
Just a select few models
abstract kite
Will it run more smoothly now?
fleet canopy
Oh wait
vapid crypt
Intel for the most part includes igpu, they recently started selling models without the igpu
abstract kite
thank you
vapid crypt
The F skus
fleet canopy
Yeah I forgot that all AMD CPUs have OC, not all Intel
But yeah I do know that not all CPU can fit in an iGPU
vapid crypt
Its not that they can't fit it in, its just they choose not to include igpu in most of their cpus
fleet canopy
vapid crypt
Saves money over all, but yeah the ones they have igpus on they like to call APUs
tame hazel
is that posible to get stable 60 FPS on this system?
tame hazel
ok, what setting i have to pick to get it?
celest jolt
I'am just gonna say my Specs for y'all to devour with Suggestions or Disgust CPU:AMD FX 8350|GPU:GTX 1050 2GB|Motherboard:No Clue ;)|RAM:16 GB's of DDR3 1600 MHZ|HDD:No Clue| Enjoy, Just Need some Suggestions for Future Upgrades.
fleet canopy
You can set your settings at high and put CPU cull on Medium @tame hazel
tame hazel
thanks
fleet canopy
Well uhh
You look like you can use a big upgrade @celest jolt
Anyways
What's your budget limit?
abstract kite
I was wondering why my computer could'nt handle the simpliest things. I feel so stupid now lol. Was even gonna buy a new graphic card ehhe
fleet canopy
.>
celest jolt
It's Kinda Limited due to what I can Upgrade without a Massive Price Increase due to my Motherboard being near It's Limit In Upgradability.
But i'd say around 200-270 For this Setup.
celest jolt
Yep.
fleet canopy
Mmk
celest jolt
I can Probably fumble around with my notebook real quick and find my MotherBoard's Name.
fleet canopy
mmk
celest jolt
Nethier do I XD
fleet canopy
The only thing I could ever suggest is a full build
hexed wedge
@celest jolt your cpu is better than min but I have a 1070 ti, game runs smoothly for me except for the drop where it loads
celest jolt
I get a solid 30 fps with Settings Maxed out.
Only dips In Loading.
Other games that I have Issues with are Probably related to the GPU Or Ram.
opaque oyster
@hexed wedge what cpu do you have?
fleet canopy
kek you could probably find an upgrade for yourself @hexed wedge
hexed wedge
I'm planning one
fleet canopy
What'll it be?
hexed wedge
My cpu is AMD FX-8320, I've overclocked it though
jade ermine
I use 2080 with 3440x1440 resolution and i get 90-105 fps with decent settings
fleet canopy
An oof for that CPU
celest jolt
He's Probably got It near 4.0 or 3.7 ghz
hexed wedge
yeah, I'm looking at upgrading everything but the GPU shortly
I sure do, I have it at 4
fleet canopy
What will it be?
celest jolt
You're running right at mine
I barely overclocked my CPU.
Due to It already being a Nice Space Heater.
hexed wedge
I'm looking at the new I7 series for cpu, but might just get an I5 because I'm not going to be doing much other than gaming with it
fleet canopy
9700K?
jade ermine
This game is not that cpu heavy no?
fleet canopy
9600K?
hexed wedge
Definitely looking at the 9700k
fleet canopy
It depends what you put your CPU cull to @jade ermine
hexed wedge
it's beautiful
jade ermine
@fleet canopy Idk i have it maxed out
fleet canopy
You should get one of the AMD CPUs instead. I believe 3700X runs at same as 9700K for cheaper
What is your CPU?
jovial vector
My CPU sits at 30°C should I overclock?
jade ermine
I was just saying that in general dont point fingers at me or my 3900X lol
jovial vector
have the corsair H100i
fleet canopy
Put the cull at medium @jade ermine
ebon zephyr
it depends @jovial vector are you getting the performance you're looking for? is the temp at idle or under load. (probably under load)
fleet canopy
OC the CPU then, not bad to do it
jovial vector
Idle is 25°C-ish
jade ermine
@jovial vector You cant really draw conclusions from idle temperatures. Test thermal limits with stress tests
fleet canopy
CPU Cull is essentially:
Low = GPU works more
High = CPU works more
Medium = CPU and GPU works together
ebon zephyr
overclocking can reduce the lifespan regardless of temps so IMO if you don't need more performance, keep stock clocks
fleet canopy
OC won't reduce lifespan
pallid whale
hi guys when i try to start the game from steam it says no connection error, any fixes?
jade ermine
@fleet canopy So medium is superior even with many cores?
fleet canopy
I believe so for good CPU and GPU
jade ermine
Thanks gotta try that one out
jovial vector
Depends which is better between CPU and GPU
fleet canopy
Going over the suggested limit in OC will have the CPU get shorter lifespan @ebon zephyr
@pallid whale Are you using the GTFO Beta?
jovial vector
If one is better, let it be the crutch
jovial vector
delete the one titled "GTFO Beta"
pallid whale
okay mate lemme try
fleet canopy
Check the name of game or wait a bit. It took some time for someone to load into
pallid whale
it might be cus i'm using win 7 or something
same thing happened to another game too
fleet canopy
I guess so
Windows 10 is the best recommended OS
I believe you can update to Windows 10 for free @pallid whale
I forgot though
pallid whale
yeah even tho i know that somehow i didn't really wanna go win 10
jovial vector
They ended that a while ago. The free updating.
pallid whale
there're discounts everywhere for win 10
i think the last win 7 security update will be at january 20 2020
fleet canopy
Yeah, apparently Windows 7 is ending?
jade ermine
W10 time :)
fleet canopy
And oof
pallid whale
yeah
fleet canopy
Just download a pirated Windows 10
celest jolt
I Personally can't update from 8.1 my Free Upgrade to 10 Wore off a while ago for me.
jovial vector
I've never really gone into OC'ing too deep. What is a max temp I should stay away from?
jade ermine
@fleet canopy Why would anyone do that when you can get it for free straight from microsoft
fleet canopy
Free from Microsoft?
jade ermine
It's free to use. You just gotta activate it later on with OEM code
celest jolt
Nethier have I.
jade ermine
???
jovial vector
It will be a blank screen and it will constantly remind you to activate your Windows.
pallid whale
i think they are selling discount oem codes right now
fleet canopy
Oh I might have seen that before actually
jade ermine
You can use it for free and you get this activate thing on the bottom left corner on your screen after a while. Just buy key later on once its starts to bug you
fleet canopy
kek
jovial vector
Or head over to Kinguin.net where they sell Windows 10 OEM codes for dirt cheap.
jade ermine
bottom right*
fleet canopy
I always used KMSpico for it
jade ermine
@jovial vector ebay
celest jolt
Plus Ethier way If you're upgrading your pc
at somepoint your windows won't reconginize the PC
jade ermine
Its tied to your microsoft account. You can fix that with support
jovial vector
Each Windows build is tied to your motherboard. As long as you dont change your mobo, you're good.
celest jolt
Ya See I gotta do that ethier way
fleet canopy
celest jolt
My MOBO Is extremely Limited on Upgrades now
fleet canopy
Your mobo may be old and it does that
celest jolt
all I can do Is get a Better Card and Ram aswell as an SSD.
jade ermine
What platform is it
fleet canopy
OS?
jade ermine
or chipset should i ask
celest jolt
No Fucking clue XD
fleet canopy
celest jolt
Find out for ya self
jade ermine
FX
jovial vector
That's an AMD board
jade ermine
If i were you i would invest to new board/cpu/ram
celest jolt
It's somewhere from the early 2000's
celest jolt
It works.
jade ermine
AMD FX chips did not age well either
celest jolt
I can't complain about anything else other then the Upgrades.
The Little fuckers been pushing for ages.
fleet canopy
Anything's better than an old piece of tech, eh?
jovial vector
jade ermine
AM4 allows cheap upgrade path. Especially now when RAM is cheap
celest jolt
And this Little Fucker Is gonna be Tested In Star Wars Battlefront II Again when It downloads In 2...days
celest jolt
I mean I'am happy with my PC now
celest jolt
I can show you the horrors of how I played FOR HONOR On my Old PC.
jovial vector
I only upgrade when I have to not because I want to. As long as I can play a game comfortably, I'm happy.
fleet canopy
B450 MSI Tomahawk isn't too bad
celest jolt
Yeah I saw It going before Then they Ran Out as I was nearing the ability to buy It.
jade ermine
Built one system with it and nothing bad to say @fleet canopy
fleet canopy
Kind of overkill, but good if you wanna upgrade to the Ryzen 3000 CPUs later on
celest jolt
And the Cash went else where.
fleet canopy
What are your drives? HDD/SSD?
celest jolt
Lemme Pull Speccy
celest jolt
Well you eat what you like now don't ya.
fleet canopy
At least it tells you what the specs are
fleet canopy
Oh yeah it absolutely fucking sucks
But I need to know if he has good drive space and has an SSD
That's all
jade ermine
@fleet canopy Beauty is that zen3 series should be compatible with it too. So once your current chip (2600/3600 whatever) is not delivering to your needs you can slap anything on it.
late sorrel
open up fucking windows file explorer
fleet canopy
Is it an SSD?
celest jolt
SATA Probably so HDD
fleet canopy
I just gotta know scre
celest jolt
Ik.
fleet canopy
Where are your socks
celest jolt
I'am just assuming from looking In my CASE.
fleet canopy
Whatever his PC isn't too good
late sorrel
m
fleet canopy
So I'mma throw in an SSD
celest jolt
Hippity Hoppity Cash Doesn't grow on Tree's Fuck
vapid crypt
fleet canopy
Hippity hoppity you could get a job unless you'll say you're too young
late sorrel
lmao yeah
celest jolt
Hahaha You'll never get my Age.
fleet canopy
Hahah you'll never get your money if you don't get a job either way
celest jolt
All I'll say Is I've got 4 Dollars to my Name
fleet canopy
Then underage and jobless
late sorrel
^
celest jolt
Correcto.
fleet canopy
Otherwise you'd have much more either way
celest jolt
Oh Also..you know how I was talking about my old PC
Yeah I can't complain too much about this PC.
late sorrel
hahahaha same
fleet canopy
That's hot!
jade ermine
LOL
late sorrel
me and the boys with an hd5670
fleet canopy
So realistic!
celest jolt
Think It was Running a
vapid crypt
That's a pretty cool lookin' PS2 game
jade ermine
"And this is how i get PS1 experience on PC"
jade ermine
My first desktop had i7 930 with hd6870. That was godlike upgrade from the laptop i used for gaming...
fleet canopy
Lovely
celest jolt
But yeah back Ontopic of the Upgrades I'll probably save what I can at everypoint and Upgrade what I can on this system that can Transfer over to the Next System I have (GPU HDD N Fans)
And the Sort.
fleet canopy
Well
You can save for 700$ if you can for this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GmbpK4
celest jolt
Yabba Dabba Fuck you, But I can probably sit on It and come to a possibility of It.
fleet canopy
Much better upgrade than your early 2000s PC
By millions you'd think this was much better than a 2080 Ti and 3950X with 32GB of 3600MHz on CAS16
jade ermine
I would not drop that amount of money for fans with 700$ build but that ones gives good idea👍
vapid crypt
If its FX its early 2010s, but yeah
fleet canopy
I just picked the fans quickly
vapid crypt
Well I mean as good as Noctua fans are, I dunno that's probably not worth all at once
fleet canopy
I pretty much did a quick search on Toms Hardware for what fan mm was needed and threw whatever seemed good
celest jolt
Both 140 and 120 are Compatible IIRC.
My Case as Is Should be able to fit It all In.
jade ermine
If you have okay case already that helps out
celest jolt
It'd cut the cost about 170$ Somewhere round there.
But I'd have to do some research.
Should be a full Tower.
Thank y'all for your suggestions.
And y'all have a G'Day.
fleet canopy
Take care
fleet canopy
Get it off Newegg then o:
molten acorn
Nah, they have it but it's also from a 3rd party site seller
I much prefer Amazon/Newegg Official
fleet canopy
Alright then
molten acorn
fleet canopy
vivid sandal
question for you guys, as my new pc is running 16gb ram like my old one remember a friend that helped set up my old one saying that it some systems keep it capping out at 13.5gb
is that still accurate and if so what do i do to expand the cap
vapid crypt
I've never heard of such a cap
fleet canopy
Never heard it too
vivid sandal
it was around 5 years ago
fleet canopy
Probably poor install of RAM or it’s usually that it’s using 13.5GB of ram st the moment
vapid crypt
Maybe terrible ram?
fleet canopy
Cause limits aren’t a thing on RAM unless the motherboard doesn’t support it
vivid sandal
i only have a vague recollection of it, but it was some form of overclocking
vapid crypt
It isn't RAM, but that reminds me how Nvidia with the GTX 970; they say it has 4gb of Vram but the last 512mb is so slow its worthless. So its the same as having 3.5gb. But anyway as far as I know there is no arbitrary limitation on RAM
Okay I looked it up, and it had to do with older hardware
Like X58 intel, really old stuff. Running 4 sticks of 4gb each on Windows 7
Yeah shouldn't be relevant now
vivid sandal
thankyou
probably some form of that cause it was a native windows 8pc that got a the free update to windows 10 when everyone converted
and when i say it was native windows 8 like a month before 10 rolled out
old plinth
my friend is having a problem with GTFO. he can't play because it's playing only around 30 fps on a laptop.
he has an HP OMEN 15.6" FHD - i7-7700HQ - NVIDIA GTX 1050 - 8GB Ram - 1TB HDD
bitter dragon
What setting is he using?
old plinth
everything is on medium
exclusive fullscreen
target framerate 999
culling workload: small
extreme makes his gpu wack
vapid crypt
I've been hearing the same complaints from laptop users
old plinth
i think it could be a battery problem?
vapid crypt
30 - 40 fps that so far has been the average out of like 5 laptops I guess, all specced differently too. This one is the first i7 laptop though, doesn't seem to help much
vapid crypt
Not really, maybe it's power limits
Cause on laptops everything is clocked lower generally to use less power
real kestrel
Weird that this is the only game that runs bad
old plinth
^this is him btw
real kestrel
Settings on low vs settings on high are giving me the same frame performance: 30-32
old plinth
@vapid crypt
vapid crypt
It really isn't something I would know how to solve, but it just seems like this game doesn't like laptops
real kestrel
Probly something wrong with the initial programming
vapid crypt
Even someone using a 1660 laptop is getting similar performance
real kestrel
Right
bitter dragon
I mean... Are the power settings to medium or performance? Most laptops have three settings. Power saver, middle lands, extreme.
Extreme doesn't do anything but make you feel better, generally.
old plinth
high performance
bitter dragon
Doesn't that just tell it to ramp up but with modern architecture it does that anyway when it boosts?
old plinth
it hasnt done anything regardless
usually it would
but the FPS is consistent
so im assuming an FPS lock
fleet canopy
Shouldn't have one
fossil parcel
I just made it to third map playing for the first time, on a laptop, lenovo P53. 120 fps average. nVidia RTX 5000 with 12 GB VRAM. Plays silky smooth 441.66 driver.
Only 4.4GB of VRAM used, and just over 8GB of RAM is used. GPU utilization at 97%, CPU at 25% (Intel Xeon E-2276M)
fleet canopy
What is the point of gaming with it? I understand if you also use it for rendering stuff If that's what you do
But gaming?
What
Couldn't find M version, picked G
fossil parcel
mine clocks as high as 1800mhz but usually around 1650mhz at 65C
fleet canopy
Quadro RTX 5000 - 2,272$
GeForce RTX 2080 Super XC Gaming - 750$
I see same performance
Really huge price difference
abstract kite
@fleet canopy RTX 5000 is a lot of workloads instead of gaming lol
fossil parcel
No such plans atm
fleet canopy
So you're not looking into it?
fossil parcel
Just some software to help decode 4k videos
molten acorn
Heya
sacred dew
loved the game
bbutr need help
i got a geforce 830m
and an i3 4th gen
CAN I RUN IT is the question>????
molten acorn
Honestly, probably not.
Or - if at all, not too well
But hey! You can be the first to officially test it :D
stiff rock
@sacred dew it would go at like 30fps lowest setting i believe
Unless you are willing to also lower the resolution
sacred dew
Hmm
stiff rock
You can always buy it and stop playing before the 2hrs mark to get a 100% refound
By steam policy, if you ask a refound under 2hr playtime and if you didn't own the game for longer than 1 week (not sure if it was 1 week or 2), you can get a full refound
And if you've never done it, refound is easy to do and takes like 2mins
patent shard
Hello everyone,i have i3 7100,8 gb of ram and gtx 1050 ti 4 gb,can i run gtfo at 60 fps?
crisp kayak
What will I get in this game with a gtx 650 and an i5 2400k 3.1ghz
teal bone
1050ti 4gb?
hexed horizon
dark quarry
Can confirm. Have 1050Ti on a laptop (i7-7700HQ) and get 55-65fps.
patent shard
@dark quarry full hd rezolution?low settings or?
dark quarry
1080p, CPU set to medium (I think?) and all other settings on max/ultra.
patent shard
with my i3 7100 i can get 60 fps on low?
dark quarry
You might be getting some bottleneck with the i3. 1050Ti should be plenty to run GTFO at max settings with decent framerates.
patent shard
i wait videos on youtube with gtfo tested with my pc specs
dark quarry
Being a purely PvE game experience, if you can get above 30-45fps, you should be fine.
I might upgrade that i3 to an i5 if it's possible, though.
i5-7500s are currently running about $200 on newegg.
jade ermine
yikes
fleet canopy
Stealing it off another server-
vapid crypt
200 dollars for a quad core i5 
fleet canopy
Might as well get yourself the i5-9600K if it ever costed that much. 6C/6T
It's kind of disappointing they'll never let the prices on parts drop
Like 7700K is still god damn 350-400$
Same price goes for a 9700K
vapid crypt
Intel doesn't care to drop the prices on their old stock
jade ermine
wich is the reason you buy old hardware used
radiant garnet
But old intel CPUs don't have a reasonable used price...!
jade ermine
You are looking from wrong places then
radiant garnet
There's only so many websites in norway for used parts.
jade ermine
Try tech forums
fleet canopy
7700K - Processor Only = Includes 7700K
7700K - Processor + CPU = Includes 7700K with a Hyper Evo 212
"Intel BX80677I57400 7th Gen Core Desktop Processors"
- Includes a picture of a Core i5
182$
Kind of uninformative
native drift
Intel new processors running last gen PCI e lol.
late sorrel
lol what nerds
native drift
I got a gtx 1080
16gb ram at 2400mhz
i5 8400
i run the game perfectly fine.
abstract kite
@patent shard What generation is your i3?
fleet canopy
He said it was 7100
fleet canopy
Could use an upgrade for CPU
fleet canopy
Best CPU
vapid crypt
Overclocks like a champ though
abstract kite
I want to build something with the 3000G
Maybe a HTPC or something
3000G w/ 1060 3GB
hushed osprey
looking for a group to play b1
rugged notchBOT
Please keep LFG related messages in the LFG channels #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania . If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here #how-to-matchmake
hushed osprey
sorry i forgot i wasnt in the right channel
hexed wedge
all g
marble moss
hello
is there way to rejoin a match
i just randomly got disconnected and it wont let me join back
it gave me the option to join through clipbord but it didnt work
strong whale
You know it's cold af in your room when
fleet canopy
Lovely
urban gulch
That’s on standard on my 60% workload for cpu tbh
strong whale
this is my idle gpu temp lol
late sorrel
lol mine is 51c
strong whale
yeah normally mine idles 38-45
cold walrus
I run an 1800X 64gb of ram and a 2080 and i get fps drops
Has to be a lot on the screen though. Or 3 turrets facing each other
civic helm
Whats the best settings for fps without potato graphics? Currently running MSI 570x ACE motherboard, AMD ryzen 9 3900x, 4x16gb G skill tridentZ neo 3200, RTX 2070 super and Corsair CP600 NVMe PCIe 4.0 2TB
fleet canopy
Set it to high graphics, put CPU cull to medium or low
civic helm
@fleet canopy Thank you!
fleet canopy
I usually prefer medium because both GPU and CPU work, I believe GPU works less if set to high
fleet canopy
Seems it works better on medium from what I see, but alr
knotty cosmos
i have a GTX 1050 Ti, AMD Ryzen 3 1300X Quad-Core Processor, and 16GB of RAM. Yet recently my computer has be restarting randomly when playing D1. I have no idea what is causing this. I have beaten all other levels without any gameplay problems, only recently did this start.
lusty bridge
@knotty cosmos try limiting power consumption in the hardware section of the control panel
knotty cosmos
not sure how to do that
gaunt flower
Have you also been monitoring the temps while playing?
tame hazel
@knotty cosmosit happened because your CPU is overheating, try to set higher limit of Rpm on your CPU cooler
@gaunt flower MSI Afterburner
vapid crypt
If it is an overheating issue, consider cleaning out the pc for dust. Also ensure there's plenty of air flowing into the case.
fleet canopy
I wonder how I never remember to get MSI Afterburner after seeing it so many times
sterile prairie
knotty cosmos
@gaunt flower yes i have been
i just dusted my computer see if that makes a difference but if not i will look at the power next
gaunt flower
Were they normal CPU and GPU temps?
It sounds like it is overheating from something
knotty cosmos
they where normal
it's been sitting at 40 average and the highest peak was 60 even though my TJ maxx is 90
sense i just dusted it im going to try and play a game and see if it restarts
brisk badger
If your computer shuts down or the application crashes; the best place to quickly get an overview is the Windows "Event Viewer". If an application crashes, check "Applications", if Windows is crashing check "System"
vivid sandal
sorry to keep coming to you guys about the same stuff but my pc just experienced a system crash on driver load state error, luckily i had it back up to a previous stable version. could this be a hardware issue?
it did this once 2 days ago on a windows systems update and today when i tried to fire up a steam download
vapid crypt
Could be outdated drivers, I couldn't say what for exactly. At the very least make sure the graphics drivers are up to date.
vivid sandal
ran a check in the device manager and double checked in drive booster 7
they i have everything updated
brisk badger
driver booster 7
🤯
ran a check in the device manager and double checked in drive booster 7
This is not how to troubleshoot sorry.
Neither device manager nor this application will tell about the issues (well first can, but usually not when you receive a bluescreen or crash. Having up to date drivers doesn't mean they run well or do not contain any issues
I really like the windows event viewer. It logs everything in your Windows OS
And frankly that driver software is useless and I would even call it a scam
chrome chasm
A good motherboard for Ryz
Ryzen 3800x
? Anyone got a suggestion, one that use it correctly. Not overkill and insane high price
mystic pasture
I've been using Asus B450 boards personally @chrome chasm
They're a bit feature lacking (specifically not many USB's) but they're like $90 USD give or take
plus with Asus quality, can't go wrong with them, but I'm a biased fan boy
chrome chasm
What if I want it a slighly bit better?
mystic pasture
Let me take a peek at their chipsets again
I've recently changed my approach to buying motherboards by first deciding what chipset I want
and then just pick the board that matches your price range that uses it
swift moss
B450 is the best chipset to go with unless you are an enthusiast
chrome chasm
Ok
swift moss
personally i say the MSI B450 Gaming Plus
vapid crypt
The only real difference between B450 and X470 is X470 has full Crossfire/SLI support
swift moss
i have the B350 version and it works fine
mystic pasture
Is there a new B550 out for Ryzen 3/4?
vapid crypt
Not yet no
ivory comet
Careful with buying 3rd gen ryzen and 2nd gen ryzen motherboards
mystic pasture
I have a Ryzen 2 and the B450 was up to date then, not sure what the market has done since
AMD's chipsets really threw me off after being on intel for so long
vapid crypt
The only B450 boards you can really get that works with Gen 3 processors for sure out of the box are MSI's Max series
mystic pasture
for exactly as @ivory comet is pointing out, easy to confuse them
ivory comet
A lot of the 2nd gen (x470, b450) dont have updated bios drivers and may require a 2nd or 1st gen ryzen to boot and update bios
I have a b450f and a 3600x
vapid crypt
Otherwise you gotta update the bios, if it has bios flashback that makes it easy
mystic pasture
so you can only get an X series board right now?
ivory comet
I had to use my friends 2nd gen ryzen just to post my pc
mystic pasture
if you want it to work out of the box?
ivory comet
X570 safest bet
mystic pasture
oof
vapid crypt
MSI's B450 Max boards have updated bios
mystic pasture
always the priciest one to be out first lmao
mystic pasture
MSI is a good brand too, I just can't justify the extra $200 to go for an X over a B
vapid crypt
Be sure it has the "Max" in its title
ivory comet
When I did mine it was a lot more than that and ryzen 3 had just come out :p
vapid crypt
I think the Tomahawk Max goes for around that much
mystic pasture
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FKV3TVF/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I got this one for my Ryzen 2 and it is amazing, If they come out with a refresh for the newer chipsets then I'd recommend it all the way. But if you need it right now, then the MSI Max seems like you're only option
abstract kite
PCs are like kids. Its never a good time lol
mystic pasture
accurate haha
abstract kite
I’m going to regret upgrading now when Ryzen 4000 comes out lol
Or something similar
mystic pasture
I'll probably do another mass upgrade when my 1080ti becomes less relevant, but I expect it to hold on for at least another year if not 2
that's a safe bet
it just needs to be worth how much you spend at the end of the day
abstract kite
Definitely on the GPU. I held on to my 1070 because Ampere is right around the corner.
My card is still relevant lol
mystic pasture
Yeah for sure, they're definitely much longer lasting than they used to be
I remember upgrading only bought you a year, maybe 2 worth of relevant parts
But the 10XX series seems to be very capable still
karmic sandal
Heck i still have a 390x, i play 1440p on everything except for MH:World and this game
late hawk
i5 4590, 16gb ddr3 ram, 960 2bg ram, full ssd discs, win 10 will work game on this spec ?
abstract kite
I have a 2080ti and an 9900k with 32gb ram but still have stuttering?
vapid crypt
@late hawk You're fine, go light on the texture size cause 4gb vram is the recommended.
late hawk
many thx @vapid crypt, it's info for friend 🙂
knotty cosmos
Hey everyone! I was on here yesterday with some problems and found out that my power supply unit is going crazy high when i play GFTO. Any suggestion to why this might be? It cause my computer to hard restart.
fleet canopy
What specs are you using? How much wattage does PSU have?
knotty cosmos
exactly
the task manager whenever I run the game says my power usage is very high
and the PSU is running hot
knotty cosmos
I just dusted it yesterday
fleet canopy
Hm
knotty cosmos
I dont think the fan is rujnning