#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk | GTFO | Page 43

granite geyser Dec 1, 2019, 10:00 PM

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what card to you have @ornate ginkgo

fleet canopy Dec 1, 2019, 10:00 PM

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Modding was the best reason

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I don't really make mods

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But like

ornate ginkgo Dec 1, 2019, 10:00 PM

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780ti. But some Special edition thing with the longest name ever xD

fleet canopy Dec 1, 2019, 10:00 PM

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Custom zombies maps on World At War didn't always run smoothly

ornate ginkgo Dec 1, 2019, 10:00 PM

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I think 780ti IChill Black edition

fleet canopy Dec 1, 2019, 10:00 PM

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And I spent a good 5 years playing Payday 2 on 15 FPS

ornate ginkgo Dec 1, 2019, 10:00 PM

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I feel ya.

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I remember DayZ mod :'D 15FPS where a dream

fleet canopy Dec 1, 2019, 10:01 PM

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I would love to experience it all over again lmao

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lmao

ornate ginkgo Dec 1, 2019, 10:01 PM

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But i still had a great time ^^

fleet canopy Dec 1, 2019, 10:01 PM

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Yup

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No matter how slow it runs

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As long as it's fun, it's fucking fun

ornate ginkgo Dec 1, 2019, 10:02 PM

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"A good game can't be ruined by a bad Framerate" -Lavars 2019 xD

granite geyser Dec 1, 2019, 10:04 PM

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^^^^ hardcore disagree haha

vapid crypt Dec 1, 2019, 10:04 PM

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I got payday 2 back when they were giving away the 3 millions copies or whatever, this was before I had a decent pc, just one of the shittiest laptops. I didn't actually really play it until this year for that very reason, I can't really remember the last time I actually put with with near unplayable framerates like that

granite geyser Dec 1, 2019, 10:05 PM

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Have you tried playing competitive multiplayer with bad frame rate. Its really... really frustrating lol

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Yea Payday 2 was the shit

ornate ginkgo Dec 1, 2019, 10:05 PM

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i remember playing Mirrors Edge on a really shitty laptop xD

granite geyser Dec 1, 2019, 10:05 PM

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Yea mIrrors edge was awesome too

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I haven't played the 2nd one

ornate ginkgo Dec 1, 2019, 10:05 PM

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Me neither.

granite geyser Dec 1, 2019, 10:06 PM

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honestly not sure why, but just wasn't drawn to it

ornate ginkgo Dec 1, 2019, 10:06 PM

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It's not that good, i watched a friend play it xD

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It looks good though

granite geyser Dec 1, 2019, 10:06 PM

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yea I didn't even look into the game even though i really enjoyed the first one

vapid crypt Dec 1, 2019, 10:06 PM

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TF2 was a game I played on that laptop, I had to do quite a bit of configuring to make it playable most of the time phaWesker

granite geyser Dec 1, 2019, 10:06 PM

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Borderlands 3 doesn't seem that appealing to me either

fleet canopy Dec 1, 2019, 10:07 PM

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I liked Mirrors Edge back then

granite geyser Dec 1, 2019, 10:07 PM

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1st game yea, was awesome

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2 days till Halo

fleet canopy Dec 1, 2019, 10:08 PM

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I loved the parkour so much lmao

ornate ginkgo Dec 1, 2019, 10:10 PM

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Yeah, i just hated the one part where you had to swing among these "flagstaffs".. the collision was so bad, and i couldn't make it for a LOOONG time xD i think it was after you slided down this one Window and a Chooper chased you...

granite geyser Dec 1, 2019, 10:11 PM

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I kinda... sorta remember a helicopter and having to climb up the scaffolding or something.... kinda all blurs together

fleet canopy Dec 1, 2019, 10:12 PM

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Ending

ornate ginkgo Dec 1, 2019, 10:12 PM

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Was it the ending?

fleet canopy Dec 1, 2019, 10:12 PM

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Faith ( Main girl ) saves sister

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From guy named Jack

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Helicopter involved, yes

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When the helicopter starts to leave, I think Krugersec comes outta nowhere

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You go past them and do super jump

granite geyser Dec 1, 2019, 10:15 PM

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superjump, mario style. Gotta do the tripple backflip or the slide long jump. Mario parkour FTW

fleet canopy Dec 1, 2019, 10:15 PM

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Haha

granite geyser Dec 1, 2019, 10:18 PM

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getting off topic from the channel, sorry doc

pale kindle Dec 1, 2019, 10:21 PM

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looking at system specs i really need a new gpu,cpu and more RAM

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😢

ornate ginkgo Dec 1, 2019, 10:21 PM

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Whats your budget?

pale kindle Dec 1, 2019, 10:22 PM

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honestly idk

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its not like I dont have the minimum

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i do

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but for like future games im screwed

fleet canopy Dec 1, 2019, 10:22 PM

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Eh

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You'll be fine

pale kindle Dec 1, 2019, 10:23 PM

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ehh boxing day shopping

nova berry Dec 1, 2019, 11:29 PM

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Just paid the 250 for the 7700K and mobo and I'm about to go pick it up

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Also it's delidded

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so 250 is a really good deal

fleet canopy Dec 1, 2019, 11:32 PM

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Lovely

late sorrel Dec 1, 2019, 11:32 PM

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wait

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a delidded 7700k

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uh

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uh

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uh

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come again?

nova berry Dec 1, 2019, 11:34 PM

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yes

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it's delidded

late sorrel Dec 1, 2019, 11:34 PM

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holy shit

nova berry Dec 1, 2019, 11:34 PM

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meaning better temps

late sorrel Dec 1, 2019, 11:34 PM

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that;s going to be epic or dead

brisk badger Dec 1, 2019, 11:34 PM

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if it's delidded then it's usually pretested

nova berry Dec 1, 2019, 11:34 PM

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Nah it works. I know the guy I'm buying it from

brisk badger Dec 1, 2019, 11:35 PM

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it surely works. but if it's a golden chip then he would have kept it 😉

nova berry Dec 1, 2019, 11:35 PM

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I mean delidded it would still perform better. and I'm water cooling it

brisk badger Dec 1, 2019, 11:35 PM

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you can buy for 10eur delidding tools aswell. it's pretty straight forward

nova berry Dec 1, 2019, 11:35 PM

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usually delidded cpu's sell for a lot more

brisk badger Dec 1, 2019, 11:36 PM

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it does run cooler. but people who sell cpu's a lot with delidding will inspect cpu's and keep the best ones

nova berry Dec 1, 2019, 11:36 PM

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He already upgraded it

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and is running newer hardware that's faster anyway

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Plus like I said, I gave him a VR headset

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lol

brisk badger Dec 1, 2019, 11:37 PM

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i am just saying, he has the knowledge of how good the chip peforms. you can make money with selling CPU's that reach a specific frequency as well

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https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/uwQAAOSwerxamBms/s-l300.jpg
if people want to delidd themselves. it's easy

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maybe i should offer delid as a service if people are willing to pay much 🤔

nova berry Dec 1, 2019, 11:39 PM

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pre delidded cpu's that hit silicon lottery still usually only sell for $100 more on ebay n shit

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at least older cpu's

brisk badger Dec 1, 2019, 11:39 PM

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it's fascinating why people purchases goods for so much money on ebay

nova berry Dec 1, 2019, 11:40 PM

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Yeah I only buy used shit from people I know

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I've usually only charged from $50-$150 for used hardware

pale arrow Dec 2, 2019, 2:32 AM

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Who has a 3950X...this guy

fleet canopy Dec 2, 2019, 2:32 AM

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Lovely

pale arrow Dec 2, 2019, 2:33 AM

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Got delivered today at 6:55 and I’m not home

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😦

molten acorn Dec 2, 2019, 3:43 AM

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Lmfao

bitter dragon Dec 2, 2019, 7:31 AM

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What he meant to say is... 'Who has a 3950X... some dude who was driving by and saw my package left at my place.'

naive shore Dec 2, 2019, 9:05 AM

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Hi guys so just a question, since im not techy stuffs will A8 7600 + gtx660 + 12GB RAM 1600Mhz will work right?

molten acorn Dec 2, 2019, 9:34 AM

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Oh man, those specs are going to possibly give you quite a bit of issues...

keen wasp Dec 2, 2019, 9:55 AM

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hi guys
how would it work like with gtx 1050 and i7-7700?
is medium graphics decent?

urban gulch Dec 2, 2019, 10:23 AM

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Should work!

brisk badger Dec 2, 2019, 12:14 PM

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pc specs can be found here #system-specs

chrome chasm Dec 2, 2019, 12:16 PM

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Finally a new SSD coming home sooooon! 🙂
Been a while I had to live with only low storage

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1Tb M.2 intel 660. Should be good.

brisk badger Dec 2, 2019, 12:19 PM

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I only have 120GB ssd's :(
So I decided to save data in the real cloud instead
https://github.com/yarrick/pingfs

sick reef Dec 2, 2019, 12:21 PM

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I should really mount my other M.2 SSD, and activate them.

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Living on 280GB isn't great

chrome chasm Dec 2, 2019, 12:22 PM

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I was always desinstalling - installing game due to the lack of space. That w

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S

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Was tiresome

sick reef Dec 2, 2019, 12:22 PM

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Yeah, I have the same issue

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I'm just too lazy to fix it as of yet.

chrome chasm Dec 2, 2019, 12:23 PM

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Annnnd its chrismas time, a gift from me to me.

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Black friday special too

sick reef Dec 2, 2019, 12:24 PM

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It is two 500MB SSD's so it really will get me space

chrome chasm Dec 2, 2019, 12:24 PM

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Now should

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I move window from my standa

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Rd ssd to my m.2

sick reef Dec 2, 2019, 12:25 PM

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Should I call someone, or are you all right?

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pepeS

chrome chasm Dec 2, 2019, 12:25 PM

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Im not alright... i hate my edge cellphone

brisk badger Dec 2, 2019, 12:25 PM

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ssd caching is a RIP technology

chrome chasm Dec 2, 2019, 12:25 PM

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Always touch send without my consent

brisk badger Dec 2, 2019, 12:26 PM

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I still have most games on a raid 0 hdd bundle. I don't need to purchase new ssd's for games. I don't know the benefit for most games is not that great, especially multiplayer

chrome chasm Dec 2, 2019, 12:26 PM

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Its the loading screen you get rid off

sick reef Dec 2, 2019, 12:26 PM

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It can be great, but sata is more than enough

brisk badger Dec 2, 2019, 12:26 PM

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will be probbaly the same here in GTFO. what does it matter to load in 3 secs when you have to wait for host and others to finish loading

chrome chasm Dec 2, 2019, 12:26 PM

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Everything load instantly.

brisk badger Dec 2, 2019, 12:27 PM

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In PvE games you usually wait for others to load anyway

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and loading screens can include tips 🤓

sick reef Dec 2, 2019, 12:27 PM

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My loading times now are kind of null, but the game can't load as fast as the drive regardless.

brisk badger Dec 2, 2019, 12:27 PM

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yea

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I mean it's great. I would want it for Skyrim for example

sick reef Dec 2, 2019, 12:27 PM

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But Sata SSD is a clear improvement.

chrome chasm Dec 2, 2019, 12:28 PM

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I play all kind of game. A playing solo game like dark souls on PC with SSD vs console loadtime is day and night

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1 min death screen become 1 sec

sick reef Dec 2, 2019, 12:28 PM

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I wanted to raid 0 my two M.2's, but I do not think it's possible.

brisk badger Dec 2, 2019, 12:28 PM

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just saying, in multiplayer games often the benefit of fast loading doesn't matter as you have to wait for that guy with his 5400rpm drive

chrome chasm Dec 2, 2019, 12:29 PM

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The issue with loading screen is... its too fast to read the loading tips 😅 😂

brisk badger Dec 2, 2019, 12:29 PM

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😄

sick reef Dec 2, 2019, 12:30 PM

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I remember before I fixed my internet, disregarding drives, when the anti-cheat measure in CS loaded in a person for me, I would lag, sometimes even killing me.

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PeepoSad

brisk badger Dec 2, 2019, 12:30 PM

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wtf. i just checked some ssd's. 1TB sata samsung 860 got like 100USD

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damn I payed like that amount for 200GB some years prior

sick reef Dec 2, 2019, 12:30 PM

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Yeah, SATA is super cheap nowadays.

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When I bought my first SATA, it was around 200 USD for 280GB.

brisk badger Dec 2, 2019, 12:31 PM

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yea. What about PCI-E ? also dropped a lot?

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about same-ish price

sick reef Dec 2, 2019, 12:31 PM

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Nah, not what I have seen, or bought. Maybe adapters are cheap.

brisk badger Dec 2, 2019, 12:32 PM

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I also see here m2 1tb ssd's for 105USD

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dunno if it's good (crucial P1)

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else a tad more expensive than sata, yes

chrome chasm Dec 2, 2019, 12:32 PM

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The m.2 intel 660 1Tb i bough was 150$ CAD taxes and shipping included

brisk badger Dec 2, 2019, 12:32 PM

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that's nothing lol!

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i remember buying WD Black 1tb for 95 USD

chrome chasm Dec 2, 2019, 12:33 PM

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My ssd i bough in 2015 was 250$ cad...

late sorrel Dec 2, 2019, 1:58 PM

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yikes

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yeah pretty sure that a lot of m.2s are hovering around 100 usd right now

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pretty good time I guess?

urban gulch Dec 2, 2019, 3:28 PM

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Yep

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Also ssd in 2015 was pretty new back then

sick reef Dec 2, 2019, 4:10 PM

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Yeah

charred knot Dec 2, 2019, 6:50 PM

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@chrome chasm im a little late to the party, but if your SSD is that old, you really should look into getting a new one if you have used that drive a lot

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I had an SSD as my OS drive and after 6ish years it died on me from writting to it too much

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and when an SSD dies, they dont go slowly, its sudden and very very rapidly, it will go from near normal speed to suddenly 1/100th the speed

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Also I advise strongly against using an M.2 NVMe drive as a drive that you will write a lot of data to, SSDs and NVMe drives both have a limit of how many times you can write to them, and once that limit is passed, they can die on you.

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Also make sure when buying a M.2 that you are getting a NVMe drive not an M.2 SSD

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they are different

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I personally suggest if you know how to, get a good SSD (something like a 860 EVO Plus) and a massive HDD (4tb is wonderful) and set up windows so that your downloads and such are set to your HDD, this will greatly reduce the amount of data written to your SSD over time.

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And truth be told, that an NVMe drive vs an SSD, game time load speed is not that different. Some games might give you a boost in load time, but on average from both research and personal testing, you are looking at around 2-3 seconds faster for the NVMe

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For example, Rise of the Tomb Raider, on a i7-8700K at 1440p, the nvme drive will load in 1 second faster

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Rise of the Tomb Raider, BattleField 1, Mad Max, Far Cry Primal, Battlefield 4, Project Cars 2, they all had 1 second or less between the nvme drive and the SSD

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Assassin's Creed Odyssey, you are looking at about 2 seconds faster

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The real crime is from the so called Hybrid HDDs

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these drives claim to use a mix of SSD and HDD to speed up games, sometimes they are called Game Drives

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These are not worth shit

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and honestly they are a bigger risk for breaking down over time due to the SSD parts used in them.

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One game I know for sure where an NVMe drive is way better is GTA V, you will load in about 10 seconds faster vs an SSD

chrome chasm Dec 2, 2019, 8:14 PM

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@charred knot sorry back from work! Yay that is why I bought in a new SSD. From the critic it is not the best long lasting M.2 but 1Tb at this price for canadian it's a good deal.

charred knot Dec 2, 2019, 8:19 PM

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@chrome chasm You might want to double check your item, M.2 does not mean NVMe

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you can buy a M.2 that is nothing more than a SSD

chrome chasm Dec 2, 2019, 8:20 PM

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its the same one posted here I bought

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https://discordapp.com/channels/408196129470152705/522905901003178007/651053608732721162

charred knot Dec 2, 2019, 8:20 PM

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first off, ewww i hate newegg

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Intel makes some great NVMe drives

forest raptor Dec 2, 2019, 8:21 PM

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Excellent choice, and yes, the 660p is an NVMe SSD.

chrome chasm Dec 2, 2019, 8:21 PM

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Well, I'm canadian, it's either newegg or amazon.ca

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We aren't floating in choice

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And amazon price was higher

charred knot Dec 2, 2019, 8:21 PM

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Before installing, read your motherboards manual, M.2 drives will disable 2 or 3 of the Sata ports

chrome chasm Dec 2, 2019, 8:22 PM

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Yup I know that. My SSD is not on SATA 1 or 2

charred knot Dec 2, 2019, 8:22 PM

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too bad NCIX is gone

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You got a good price, looking around, MemoryExpress has that drive for 129

mystic ingot Dec 2, 2019, 8:52 PM

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Newegg>Amazon any day. veryH

nova berry Dec 2, 2019, 8:52 PM

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When was ncix better than Amazon or Newegg?

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Never used it, but I'm sure I would have known if I should have been shopping there instead

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I also recently found out that Newegg sells Maxi Pads. What kind of person orders Maxi Pads off of Newegg

molten acorn Dec 2, 2019, 9:18 PM

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People who didn't wanna pay for Tax until that changed

abstract kite Dec 2, 2019, 11:33 PM

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yes

nova berry Dec 3, 2019, 4:39 AM

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so I got the 7700K

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works perfectly

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Also, I wasn't aware he was giving me a $150 motherboard

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I thought it'd be lower end for $250

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It's an Asus Z270-A

bitter dragon Dec 3, 2019, 4:50 AM

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Yeah, not terrible.

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You can even stick some NVMe in there.

nova berry Dec 3, 2019, 4:59 AM

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55 degrees max in BFV all Ultra + RTX on so far

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so it was a very successful delidding

charred knot Dec 3, 2019, 5:35 AM

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de-lidding drops temps like crazy on that CPU

abstract kite Dec 3, 2019, 6:26 AM

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So I need a headset in order to play this game properly, right?

nova berry Dec 3, 2019, 6:32 AM

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Left 4 Dead, Payday, and a majority of 4 player co op games are usually annoying to play when you get queued with someone who either doesn't listen or doesn't communicate. So I'd say yes.

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Shout out to the ones who have headphones but still can't hear when someone's yelling at them lmao

naive shore Dec 3, 2019, 6:40 AM

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I agree with you however sometimes i dont have headset but i have speakers, and then i became a tail of the team lol

ornate ginkgo Dec 3, 2019, 8:01 AM

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i mean... my headset costs 10$... and it's really good for the price.

sick reef Dec 3, 2019, 8:17 AM

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Delidded my 7940X and yes, temps begone.

gray moat Dec 3, 2019, 8:41 AM

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📎 20191202_194648.jpg 📎 20191202_215541.jpg

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New gpu ^^^

junior musk Dec 3, 2019, 8:42 AM

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Needs more light blue, imo.

burnt urchin Dec 3, 2019, 8:42 AM

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I built it from the store

📎 IMG_20191203_094150.jpg

gray moat Dec 3, 2019, 8:43 AM

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@junior musk ??

junior musk Dec 3, 2019, 8:43 AM

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All the lights on your rig, I like it a lot. Looks very nice, I was just jokingly saying I think it would look cooler if there were more light-blue lights as opposed to the dark purple and such.

elfin vale Dec 3, 2019, 8:44 AM

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not enough rgb imo

gray moat Dec 3, 2019, 8:44 AM

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Oh that's how I snapped it. I have it on a loop so pink was the colour it was at

burnt urchin Dec 3, 2019, 8:44 AM

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so sapphire still makes GPUs? :p

gray moat Dec 3, 2019, 8:45 AM

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@burnt urchin never stopped??

burnt urchin Dec 3, 2019, 8:45 AM

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apparently not :p

gray moat Dec 3, 2019, 8:45 AM

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Imo best brand used them since 2007

burnt urchin Dec 3, 2019, 8:46 AM

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yeah i remember them

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i kinda got tired of buiding PCs so i started buying prebuilt ones :p

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nive with warranties and support

manic quail Dec 3, 2019, 12:09 PM

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hello, is there a way to start the game even without minimum specks?

gray moat Dec 3, 2019, 12:19 PM

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Huh??

nova berry Dec 3, 2019, 2:14 PM

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prefer warranties for individual parts

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Having to send in an entire PC for maintenance sounds a bit tedious

turbid drift Dec 3, 2019, 2:21 PM

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Anyone got a corsair sf600

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Or know the exact date they'll restock or another sfx alternative that's dank

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The platinum version

weary obsidian Dec 3, 2019, 3:04 PM

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Yo guys , someone fix it? reinstall , steam res not working 😕

📎 xxx.jpg

fleet canopy Dec 3, 2019, 3:26 PM

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Try to validate game files and see if that works @weary obsidian

brisk badger Dec 3, 2019, 3:26 PM

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no but it's always interesting to see someones taskbar

gray moat Dec 3, 2019, 3:52 PM

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Wanna see mines @brisk badger

brisk badger Dec 3, 2019, 3:52 PM

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gimme gimme gimme

gray moat Dec 3, 2019, 3:54 PM

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📎 unknown-25.png

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@brisk badger

brisk badger Dec 3, 2019, 3:58 PM

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using AMD driver, already made bonus points.
not sure about adobe tools, but maybe work related, i ignore that.
Saphire Trixx remains ugly
You must live in the past due to date mismatching regular time and you must be american, because no one else wants that time format (MM/DD/YYYY)
ALso sapphire trixx has no own icon? THey seem to steal the icon from Windows Resource Monitor. strange

gray moat Dec 3, 2019, 3:59 PM

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I'm up based 😭😂😭😂

brisk badger Dec 3, 2019, 3:59 PM

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And I don't recommend a fixed fan curve

gray moat Dec 3, 2019, 3:59 PM

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Oh I'm all about fixed fan curves

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I'm fully in control of it

brisk badger Dec 3, 2019, 3:59 PM

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why? do you need 61% fan activity when idling?

gray moat Dec 3, 2019, 3:59 PM

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Also Adobe is for my photo work

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I was in game then 😘

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Check taskbar again

brisk badger Dec 3, 2019, 4:00 PM

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could not do "Custom" and have fan speed auto adjust to the temperature?

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yea yea mw3 in the back

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or what ever COD it is

gray moat Dec 3, 2019, 4:00 PM

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Nope I like full control of my fans

brisk badger Dec 3, 2019, 4:01 PM

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interesting. well if you are consequent and don't forget to change then it is surely nice

gray moat Dec 3, 2019, 4:01 PM

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25% speed on idle or photo work

brisk badger Dec 3, 2019, 4:01 PM

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what about CPU fans or chassis?

gray moat Dec 3, 2019, 4:02 PM

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60% speed for gaming and hard video rendering

brisk badger Dec 3, 2019, 4:02 PM

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but you can do that all automatically, without needing your input

gray moat Dec 3, 2019, 4:02 PM

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I don't trust it tbh

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I want to be in full control

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Cpu fan runs full on gaming

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Same with case fans

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I have switches for them

brisk badger Dec 3, 2019, 4:03 PM

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unless your sensor is somehow reading temp wrong, it should be totally fine.
I work often with different gpu's and i had only one GPU in my life which sensors were totally off (showed always 10° or so)

gray moat Dec 3, 2019, 4:04 PM

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Still room for error imo

brisk badger Dec 3, 2019, 4:04 PM

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Damn son, you have to remember a lot.
I couldn't do that.
after 2 years i still forget to charge my wireless headset after gaming

gray moat Dec 3, 2019, 4:04 PM

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😂😂😂😂

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I'm well organised

brisk badger Dec 3, 2019, 4:04 PM

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or stand up with the charging headset and walk away

gray moat Dec 3, 2019, 4:04 PM

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90% I'm gaming so everything can stay as is lol

brisk badger Dec 3, 2019, 4:05 PM

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have more trust in computer hardware.
what can go wrong? modern device will shut down when overheated anyway

gray moat Dec 3, 2019, 4:05 PM

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Boot pc up, instantly boots game up

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I like an ice cold pc 😂 like my heart 😂

brisk badger Dec 3, 2019, 4:06 PM

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is it a sapphire you have ?

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*sapphire card

gray moat Dec 3, 2019, 4:07 PM

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Yeah the new one 5700xt

brisk badger Dec 3, 2019, 4:07 PM

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wait a moment, cortana is on?

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odd why it doesn't display VRM temps

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it does for me

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i don't use Trixx though

gray moat Dec 3, 2019, 4:07 PM

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Oh that photo is old mate

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That's when my rx580 was in

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I got the 5700xt last night

brisk badger Dec 3, 2019, 4:07 PM

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nice. it's a great card

gray moat Dec 3, 2019, 4:08 PM

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Yeah I kicked the shit out it last night, everything Upto ultra and it did not event break a sweat

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Gonna put it under heavy loads tonight

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I hate the new trixx 🤢🤢 prefer the one in the photo

brisk badger Dec 3, 2019, 4:10 PM

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IMO it's all bloatware these software. The AMD driver does all in the driver

gray moat Dec 3, 2019, 4:10 PM

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True but I find trixx more user friendly than wattman

brisk badger Dec 3, 2019, 4:10 PM

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wattman is slow, especially when you have a 3d application open and need to open wattman

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but if you set everything to custom instead of fixed you don't have to use it all the time 😛

gray moat Dec 3, 2019, 4:11 PM

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Naaaaa

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Haters gonna hate 😂😂😂

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Have you done any boosts to the card yet??

brisk badger Dec 3, 2019, 4:12 PM

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I usually do with GPU's the opposite. I undervolt them and make them a tad slower to save power

gray moat Dec 3, 2019, 4:12 PM

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Why??

brisk badger Dec 3, 2019, 4:12 PM

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it's like a -5% perf loss for -15/20% less power

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saving money on power bills 😛

gray moat Dec 3, 2019, 4:13 PM

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Ah ok naaa give me all the power

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Fuck the bills 😂😂😂

brisk badger Dec 3, 2019, 4:13 PM

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you can surely boost it up a lot I think

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I am not really sure on how these boost clocks work on modern cards

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maybe change thermal paste on GPU to get even better cooling

gray moat Dec 3, 2019, 4:14 PM

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The sapphire thermals are really good

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Was one reason I held off buying a 5700xt

brisk badger Dec 3, 2019, 4:14 PM

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the heatsink yes. I doubt any company uses high quality thermal paste

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using arctic mx4 you surely save 5-8° under load

gray moat Dec 3, 2019, 4:15 PM

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Won't open it yet until warranty is gone tbh

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I do need to do my cpu soon tho

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Was trying out the thermal pad I got with my corsair h60

brisk badger Dec 3, 2019, 4:16 PM

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you will not void the warranty by changing the thermal paste

gray moat Dec 3, 2019, 4:16 PM

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Seems to have done a good job but I want Arttic on it

brisk badger Dec 3, 2019, 4:17 PM

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even if there is a sticker on the screw.
working for some years doing pc repairs, i never had any vendor refusing this. not saying it's impossible but most are chill with that

gray moat Dec 3, 2019, 4:17 PM

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Cpu first

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As I'm gonna be overclocking some point next year

brisk badger Dec 3, 2019, 4:18 PM

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learn how to delidd (if applicable on the CPU)
it's a wonder

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temps went down 20° for me

gray moat Dec 3, 2019, 4:18 PM

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What cpu you running??

brisk badger Dec 3, 2019, 4:18 PM

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using a 4790k at 4700MHz with two 140mm CPU fans @ 700 RPM

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or 800

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it's old but I don't have the money do upgrade. and it's still okay for the things I use

gray moat Dec 3, 2019, 4:19 PM

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I had my 3970k up at that speed

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Ran very well. But I'm now on the i5 9600k which is a beast of a cpu

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Give any i7 a run for its money

brisk badger Dec 3, 2019, 4:20 PM

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hey, adobe likes hyperthreading 😛

gray moat Dec 3, 2019, 4:20 PM

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I would love a tjreadripper

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But my credit card would not

brisk badger Dec 3, 2019, 4:22 PM

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i have to continue work now :/
but i appreciate the talk

fan mail in form of taskbar pictures are always welcomed
maybe see ya in the complex later today 👋

gray moat Dec 3, 2019, 4:23 PM

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Catch ya

sacred edge Dec 3, 2019, 4:58 PM

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i have i3 2550K 😰

gray moat Dec 3, 2019, 5:15 PM

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Rip

sacred edge Dec 3, 2019, 5:26 PM

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nearly 8 year old PC 😅

turbid drift Dec 3, 2019, 6:36 PM

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god I wish that were me

brisk badger Dec 3, 2019, 6:36 PM

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I have some good memories about intel 2xxx cpu's

swift tendon Dec 3, 2019, 6:37 PM

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what is the sensitivity ratio for this game plz?

turbid drift Dec 3, 2019, 8:32 PM

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what the best ultra wide settings

tight thistle Dec 3, 2019, 8:53 PM

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I guess 90 fov

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With max resolution

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Above 90 fox it gonna get laggy of sputter a bit

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Or slutter*

turbid drift Dec 3, 2019, 9:13 PM

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thx babe

abstract kite Dec 3, 2019, 9:25 PM

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oh yea, it’s all coming together

📎 image0.jpg

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My case is on backorder so thats depressing

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but everything else should be arriving the end of this week

mystic pasture Dec 3, 2019, 9:26 PM

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I have definitely built computers outside of a case if it meant using it a week early

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in college we actually just put a bare rig into a TV cabinet and used it as is for a year, no issues...just risky lmao

abstract kite Dec 3, 2019, 9:34 PM

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I have as well but I have way too much OCD to build it without the case lol

mystic pasture Dec 3, 2019, 9:36 PM

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That is totally understandable lmao

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better safe than sorry anyway

chrome chasm Dec 3, 2019, 9:43 PM

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Nice

wintry moat Dec 3, 2019, 11:37 PM

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minimun specs to play?

late sorrel Dec 3, 2019, 11:37 PM

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GTFO System Requirements

Minimum:
OS: Windows 7 64-Bit or later
CPU: Intel Core i5 2500K or AMD equivalent
RAM: 8GB
HDD: 4 GB download, 10-15 GB unpacked
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 2 GB or AMD equivalent
DirectX: Version 11.0 compatible video card
Network: Broadband

wintry moat Dec 3, 2019, 11:37 PM

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i ahve ryzen 7 and gtx 1070 16gb ram

late sorrel Dec 3, 2019, 11:38 PM

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oh good

wintry moat Dec 3, 2019, 11:38 PM

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ok ty

late sorrel Dec 3, 2019, 11:38 PM

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you will definitely get more than 60 on the top setting

wintry moat Dec 3, 2019, 11:38 PM

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144hz monitor

fleet canopy Dec 4, 2019, 1:45 AM

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Gonna bet he didn’t change the settings to 144Hz when buying it?

elfin fox Dec 4, 2019, 2:02 AM

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my game keeps freezing from time to time anyone had this issue?

vapid crypt Dec 4, 2019, 2:06 AM

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My friend told me he was having an issue like that, not sure if he solved it cause I didn't stick around (he was streaming) The last thing he changed was changing it from Windowedfullscreen to Exclusivefullscreen

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Personally in my case I didn't have issues with the game freezing, but when I tried streaming the framerate on the stream was horrible for some reason. And as soon as I made it Exclusivefullscreen it solved the problem

barren moth Dec 4, 2019, 6:43 AM

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so I oc my cpu to 4.7ghz but it can only run stable if its running @ 1.42v which is 0.1v lower than the recommended max voltage

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worth it?

sick reef Dec 4, 2019, 8:11 AM

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Probably not.

hoary hill Dec 4, 2019, 1:25 PM

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@elfin fox do you use final version of video driver?

pale arrow Dec 4, 2019, 2:43 PM

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📎 image0.jpg

wise ferry Dec 4, 2019, 2:53 PM

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My is curious and wants me to ask about this. Can anybody tell me if the Early Access will have the controller support or not?

vapid crypt Dec 4, 2019, 2:58 PM

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Probably not at first

mystic pasture Dec 4, 2019, 2:58 PM

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@wise ferry It's not likely, they do have plans down the line to add that in though I believe

wise ferry Dec 4, 2019, 2:59 PM

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Thanks guys, I'll let me buddy know.

chrome chasm Dec 4, 2019, 3:16 PM

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You would still need a keyboard to type in terminal commands

fringe plinth Dec 4, 2019, 9:45 PM

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idk how it usually works, but i suggest trying out the steam controller support, there might be a way to make it work

chrome chasm Dec 4, 2019, 11:00 PM

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question: Got my new SSD and want to move my steam game from the old to new one. Do I have to move them from somewhere in my file or delete and reinstall?

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Do I have to carry the whole Steam file?

tired lily Dec 4, 2019, 11:15 PM

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@chrome chasm

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chrome chasm Dec 4, 2019, 11:17 PM

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Thanks

late sorrel Dec 4, 2019, 11:35 PM

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yeah, you gotta do the download

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at least, I’m 99% sure

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you could move it and then try to get steam to authenticate the files

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but that’s a hassle

fleet canopy Dec 5, 2019, 3:56 AM

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I’m sure it’s got to be manually downloading each one >.>

heavy wharf Dec 5, 2019, 4:22 AM

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you can just move the files and say pull from said folder

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did it when I installed new stuff

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Settings>Downloads>Steam Library folders and create a new folder then move everything into said folder and delete the old one

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@chrome chasm

naive shore Dec 5, 2019, 9:51 AM

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Wow can we play now?

radiant garnet Dec 5, 2019, 10:04 AM

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Not quite yet

naive shore Dec 5, 2019, 10:15 AM

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almost XD

quasi copper Dec 5, 2019, 11:37 AM

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Can i7 8750 8gb ram run this smoothly?

cedar horizon Dec 5, 2019, 1:16 PM

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Have 60-80fps on high GPU 99% and on low settings have.... 60-80fps. GPU 99%. How is it possible?

elfin vale Dec 5, 2019, 1:19 PM

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Did you restart your game when the beta was up?

radiant garnet Dec 5, 2019, 1:26 PM

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@quasi copper If no GPU, then maybe if you turn settings far down, including resolution. Maybe. I would not be surprised if you can't reach 30fps at 1280x720 lowest settings.

abstract kite Dec 5, 2019, 1:45 PM

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fluffy i have that paired with a 1070 and i can play any game flawlessly with maxed settings

idle wadi Dec 5, 2019, 2:20 PM

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weestWeird

gritty atlas Dec 5, 2019, 7:56 PM

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sli support?

late sorrel Dec 5, 2019, 9:33 PM

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For GTFO? No @gritty atlas

crimson dock Dec 5, 2019, 9:33 PM

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ehh i use intel for gaming, i would use ryzen for servers but i dont do that so intel it is

hexed horizon Dec 5, 2019, 9:36 PM

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ryzen doesn't just make cpu's for servers lol

late sorrel Dec 5, 2019, 9:38 PM

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lol I’ll keep my better chip

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so have fun with wasting your money

abstract kite Dec 5, 2019, 10:39 PM

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Personally, I can’t justify buying many intel chips on the market right now because of Ryzen. Intel outperforms Ryzen only in gaming. In any other use case, Ryzen slaughters Intel... and considering the average consumer uses their PC for more than just gaming, Ryzen can cater to more with better performance at a cheaper cost.

north bronze Dec 5, 2019, 10:49 PM

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Intel outperforms Ryzen only in gaming.

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single core performance, try saying that again in a few years mmLul

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my 3700X has been nothing but a beast so far, can't imagine what a 3900X/3950X feels like

abstract kite Dec 5, 2019, 10:51 PM

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I’m about to build my 3700X rig

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I’m currently sipping through a straw with my 6600K

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Ryzen 5000, if rumors are true, is gonna be fucking lit.

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Quadthreading per core

radiant garnet Dec 5, 2019, 11:03 PM

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The 9900K is slightly better at gaming, for the price of an AMD 12 core... xD
Try comparing the less expensive options, and the idea of 'intel better games' isn't really there anymore. And if it is, just give it 6 more months and intel will have another 5-10% performance lost to another security problem...

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And even if AMD was slower in games, the price difference allows typically for 'one step' up in GPU, after factoring in less expensive MB, and no CPU cooler needed for AMD! AMD 5700 -> 5700xt or Nvidia 2060s -> 2070s matters more than the difference in CPU

abstract kite Dec 5, 2019, 11:07 PM

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If you take a 9900K and a 3700X, both locked at 4GHz, the 3700X is actually more efficient.

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So basically the only thing keeping intel barely ahead is their clock speeds

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Once that no longer becomes an issue for Ryzen, there's no real good reason to buy blue.

radiant garnet Dec 5, 2019, 11:13 PM

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Just look how little the CPU makes a difference on average even in 1920x1080, never mind higher resolution!
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i9-9900ks/21.html
Ignoring the few games that tilt strongly one way or another, the CPU doesn't really matter. Hell, the AMD R5 1600 at 3.2/3.6GHz gets 76.5% of the average FPS at 1920x1080 compared to the 9900KS with a 2080ti. At 2560x1440 it's giving you 87.4% of the FPS. That's an obsolete CPU! Yes, sure, the 9900K(s) is slightly faster on average, with an emhpasis on slight, but unless your budget has at least a 2080ti, your money is better spent on a faster GPU within the same budget. Really.

3700x with the stock CPU cooler and a B450/B550 motherboard and whatever GPU you can afford will have higher FPS than a 9700K with a cheap intel board and a cheap CPU cooler. Oh, and if you wanna argue that you can overclock the 9700K, don't forget to grab a more expensive motherboard as well xD

late sorrel Dec 5, 2019, 11:18 PM

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also you know how the 9900k is the king of gaming?

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well give it up to T3 3970x :)))

abstract kite Dec 5, 2019, 11:21 PM

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I'm just happy the 3700X can handle a lot of the workloads I'll be putting it through

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Intel can suck it

fleet canopy Dec 6, 2019, 12:26 AM

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If anyone has a 2070 Super and played Quake 2 RTX, could you please tell me how it performed? I feel like my CPU is bottlenecking it >.>

abstract kite Dec 6, 2019, 12:29 AM

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oof

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wish I could say

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but I'm curious too

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someone answer my mans

fleet canopy Dec 6, 2019, 12:29 AM

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I did like 36FPS on Quake 2 with the RTX on but I felt like that wasn’t how it should have been performing

abstract kite Dec 6, 2019, 12:29 AM

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RTX smacks FPS ngl

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but that sounds a little too low

fleet canopy Dec 6, 2019, 12:30 AM

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Yeah I guess

abstract kite Dec 6, 2019, 12:30 AM

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This is 1080p right?

fleet canopy Dec 6, 2019, 12:30 AM

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But then again, you see pretty smooth FPS gameplay videos on RTX, and on a 1440p

abstract kite Dec 6, 2019, 12:30 AM

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Ahh that might be the case

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higher resolution

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1080 it could be perfectly fine

fleet canopy Dec 6, 2019, 12:31 AM

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2070 Super and 5700XT is for 1440p resolutions so I’m sure it can’t be that

abstract kite Dec 6, 2019, 12:31 AM

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What cpu again

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?

fleet canopy Dec 6, 2019, 12:31 AM

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7700K 4.20GHz

abstract kite Dec 6, 2019, 12:31 AM

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Bottleneck my ass

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That's a perfectly fine chip

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Do you have the most recent drivers installed?

fleet canopy Dec 6, 2019, 12:32 AM

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I did drivers update recently

abstract kite Dec 6, 2019, 12:32 AM

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Verify the files of the game

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I've had framerate issues before in games and sometimes that's helped

fleet canopy Dec 6, 2019, 12:34 AM

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Alright, it might still be CPU though, because still no way I’m getting 36FPS on an old game with RTX on lol

abstract kite Dec 6, 2019, 12:34 AM

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Potentially... I don't see how though. 4c 8t should be more than enough for that game.

fleet canopy Dec 6, 2019, 12:35 AM

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Oh it should be

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But then again

abstract kite Dec 6, 2019, 12:35 AM

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Do you get much better framerates without RTX?

fleet canopy Dec 6, 2019, 12:35 AM

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1001 FPS

abstract kite Dec 6, 2019, 12:35 AM

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Thermal throttling could be an issue depending on the temp of the card

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Oh shit nevermind

fleet canopy Dec 6, 2019, 12:36 AM

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It’s really old graphics lol

abstract kite Dec 6, 2019, 12:36 AM

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For sure lol

fleet canopy Dec 6, 2019, 12:36 AM

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And it’s way too damn optimized too

abstract kite Dec 6, 2019, 12:36 AM

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I didn't upgrade my GPU otherwise I'd buy the game right now and find out myself.

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The joys of waiting for Ampere

fleet canopy Dec 6, 2019, 12:37 AM

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Ampere, hm

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Hopefully you get a great card anyways lol

abstract kite Dec 6, 2019, 12:37 AM

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Hopefully

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I might get dicked on if Nvidia thinks they can gouge more money out of people

fleet canopy Dec 6, 2019, 12:37 AM

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Hurr hurr

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2080 Ti

abstract kite Dec 6, 2019, 12:38 AM

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But I hope you can find a resolution to the issue. Your issue doesnt sound normal.

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Surely there's a solution.

fleet canopy Dec 6, 2019, 12:38 AM

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Of course

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I’m still going to buy myself a 3600 or 3700X-3800X anyways lol

abstract kite Dec 6, 2019, 12:39 AM

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3700X bb

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best bang for your buck

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I have mine looking at me in the box waiting to be slapped in a motherboard

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its gonna be lit

fleet canopy Dec 6, 2019, 12:42 AM

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While 7700K is good, 4C/8T is now not too good anymore apparently by what I’ve seen on various websites and steam/discord

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Sure it might be ridiculous, but they might not be wrong either

abstract kite Dec 6, 2019, 12:43 AM

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unfortunately it's dying quickly

fleet canopy Dec 6, 2019, 12:43 AM

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GWczoLoliShrug

abstract kite Dec 6, 2019, 12:43 AM

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Most software is now programmed for 8 physical cores

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The new standard.

fleet canopy Dec 6, 2019, 12:43 AM

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I thought 6C/12T was

abstract kite Dec 6, 2019, 12:43 AM

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Not from what I've read, but you may be right.

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6C/12T is the bare minimum now tbh

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Works perfectly

fleet canopy Dec 6, 2019, 12:44 AM

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True

abstract kite Dec 6, 2019, 12:44 AM

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but will become obsolete faster than 8c/16t

fleet canopy Dec 6, 2019, 12:46 AM

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True

abstract kite Dec 6, 2019, 12:47 AM

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btw we need to play together when the game comes out

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I'm holding you to that

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lol

fleet canopy Dec 6, 2019, 12:48 AM

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Haha

brisk badger Dec 6, 2019, 12:53 AM

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BearzOhMyToday at 1:43 AM
Most software is now programmed for 8 physical cores
The new standard.

That is quite optimistic thinking. I hope all software engineers will keep this true

fleet canopy Dec 6, 2019, 12:59 AM

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Depends I guess

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6C is still great anyway

molten acorn Dec 6, 2019, 1:30 AM

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What

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That's still untrue

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4 cores is the standard at this moment, still.

fleet canopy Dec 6, 2019, 1:41 AM

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Nah 6C is

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AMD made 4C look like shit compared to 6C and higher lol

vapid crypt Dec 6, 2019, 2:06 AM

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4 cores became obsolete fast once AMD introduced Ryzen. Not to devalue 4 cores completely, you could still get by for a little bit as long as you have hyperthreading; but for sure grab a 8/16 part as soon as you can if you don't already have one. You surely won't regret it.

fleet canopy Dec 6, 2019, 2:08 AM

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I’m sure I won’t. It’ll be a lovely upgrade

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I just have to get myself more money to afford it

vapid crypt Dec 6, 2019, 2:08 AM

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Also for reference I have a buddy on a Skylake i5 system, he tried to stream GTFO and just couldn't. OBS kept crashing, could be a separate issue or something; but I dunno phaSheva

dusty pumice Dec 6, 2019, 2:08 AM

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Would be interresting to see what the average user is on

fleet canopy Dec 6, 2019, 2:08 AM

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Usually 6 core CPUs I think

vapid crypt Dec 6, 2019, 2:09 AM

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I would wager there's still a ton of 4 cores just cause that's been the thing to get for over a decade phaWesker

dusty pumice Dec 6, 2019, 2:10 AM

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You might be able to see what people are on the steam stats

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It shows for the GPU's

fleet canopy Dec 6, 2019, 2:11 AM

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Mm

dusty pumice Dec 6, 2019, 2:12 AM

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Its stil interresting to see that the 1060 is the most popular card for november of 2019

vapid crypt Dec 6, 2019, 2:13 AM

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I wouldn't put too much reliance on those statistics, cause a lot of them are from internet cafe's in Asia and what not. So its like different users logging into the same hardware you know

fleet canopy Dec 6, 2019, 2:13 AM

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1060 isn’t too bad or no one can upgrade from it

vapid crypt Dec 6, 2019, 2:13 AM

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Hence why the 1060 is so popular

dusty pumice Dec 6, 2019, 2:13 AM

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Ofcourse theres alot of internet cafe's but it stil showing some numbers

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We normally wouldnt get to see

vapid crypt Dec 6, 2019, 2:13 AM

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Probably a pretty common card to use in a business like that I would think

dusty pumice Dec 6, 2019, 2:13 AM

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Its a pretty common card in

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most eastern european countrys for CSGO

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I have like 10 - 15 steam friends on the 1060

fleet canopy Dec 6, 2019, 2:14 AM

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Kek

dusty pumice Dec 6, 2019, 2:14 AM

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And some of them start to realise they need to upgrade lol

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And some are upset about it because they have to choose now between a new GPU or the new playstation 5 lmfao

fleet canopy Dec 6, 2019, 2:14 AM

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Eventually lol

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What’s with PS5 anyways lol

vapid crypt Dec 6, 2019, 2:15 AM

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Half my friends have like 1070s or better and then the other half have like entry level cards

copper zealot Dec 6, 2019, 2:15 AM

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my computer was garbage, i had to upgrade to play minecraft

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😦

fleet canopy Dec 6, 2019, 2:16 AM

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First was office PC, upgraded to the 1060 3GB and 7700K, got myself a 2070 Super like 3 years later I guess

vapid crypt Dec 6, 2019, 2:16 AM

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Come to think of it, I don't think I know someone that has a 1060. Unless I'm just unaware

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Oh wait I know someone that has a 1060 3gb

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I forgot he had that

fleet canopy Dec 6, 2019, 2:16 AM

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Haha

copper zealot Dec 6, 2019, 2:16 AM

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I was running a q6600 with 4gb ram and a sweet radeon fx card

dusty pumice Dec 6, 2019, 2:17 AM

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I know a decent amount of people with the 2080ti and alot of 1060 and 1070 / 1070ti's

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Some are stil on the 1080 / 1080ti aswell

fleet canopy Dec 6, 2019, 2:17 AM

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Someone recently got a 2080 Ti lol

copper zealot Dec 6, 2019, 2:17 AM

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2080 ti is meaningless unless you are doing VR

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or ray tracing huk huk

dusty pumice Dec 6, 2019, 2:17 AM

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Yup

fleet canopy Dec 6, 2019, 2:17 AM

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With 3800X and 16 or 32GB of 3200MHz

dusty pumice Dec 6, 2019, 2:18 AM

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It will only be meaningful to me when they start releasing better 4k monitors

fleet canopy Dec 6, 2019, 2:18 AM

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He said he got 2080 Ti because he was greedy lmao

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I swear I don’t think he’ll use it for anything else but gaming

copper zealot Dec 6, 2019, 2:18 AM

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I upgraded to a 3900x 32gb @ 3600 and 1080ti

dusty pumice Dec 6, 2019, 2:18 AM

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Im gonna go all out on my next buikld

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Build*

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Im probably gonna build a 10k system full custom looped

fleet canopy Dec 6, 2019, 2:18 AM

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He originally planned to get a 2080 Super Kek

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Nice

copper zealot Dec 6, 2019, 2:18 AM

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But i do video 😦

dusty pumice Dec 6, 2019, 2:18 AM

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Gonna keep updates here on it too

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So what u guys think the price is gonna be for GTFO on the 8th or 9th?

copper zealot Dec 6, 2019, 2:20 AM

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$35

dusty pumice Dec 6, 2019, 2:20 AM

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Yeah seems reasonable

copper zealot Dec 6, 2019, 2:20 AM

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I think they posted it somewhere...

fleet canopy Dec 6, 2019, 2:20 AM

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?t price

rugged notchBOT Dec 6, 2019, 2:20 AM

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GTFO will be $35 for Early Access with regional pricing, and will be cheaper than full release which will be priced below the premium price point (meaning, GTFO will cost less than $59.99.) We can't say the exact price yet, but you will get a lot of bang for your buck.

dusty pumice Dec 6, 2019, 2:20 AM

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Ahh i have most channels muted here so might of missed it lmfao

fleet canopy Dec 6, 2019, 2:20 AM

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Dun dun duuun

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It releases 9th

dusty pumice Dec 6, 2019, 2:21 AM

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Yeah lemme see if there are updates on the roadmap for the early acces

fleet canopy Dec 6, 2019, 2:21 AM

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?t roadmap

rugged notchBOT Dec 6, 2019, 2:21 AM

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You can view the roadmap here: https://gtfothegame.com/roadmap/

dusty pumice Dec 6, 2019, 2:22 AM

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Not too much on there other than bug fixes and testing

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But 5 Expeditions tho

fleet canopy Dec 6, 2019, 2:22 AM

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Rundown is like randomly set and you’ll get 2 to 5 expeditions depending how it goes

copper zealot Dec 6, 2019, 2:24 AM

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I'm betting 1st exp + 2 we just did then 2 more

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for 5

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Then Random Director mechanic

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I can't wait to find more bugs

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there are a few climbing area's that make the sleepers unable to do anything

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A couple i thought were reported on youtube and other venues for correction

brisk badger Dec 6, 2019, 11:25 AM

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It doesn't matter how many cores your CPU has when most developer program applications as singlethreaded applications

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you may have 12.5% load on each core wow. This is windows doing it's work offloading work to other cores which makes it not multitasked

dense wasp Dec 6, 2019, 11:26 AM

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@dusty pumice we will update that roadmap in the near future, with more stuff EA -> going forward

north bronze Dec 6, 2019, 11:47 AM

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@brisk badger depends on what you work on

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Most games are single-core although it's starting to change, but for example I use my rig for game dev and I can assure you UE4's editor and the C++ compiler love maxing out all cores for sweet 10 second compiles mmLul

radiant garnet Dec 6, 2019, 11:59 AM

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If more cores are more common, it makes sense to use more resources on making use of them. It took years after dualcores and quadcores came into the market before more common software and games started using more cores, now it's mostly common that games use a few cores effectively. As more and more cores become more common, those will also be utilized in time. It's the only real way forward for increased CPU performance. 5GHz seems to be a hard limit, and newer, smaller nodes are expected to reduce the max frequency.

brisk badger Dec 6, 2019, 12:02 PM

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utopia thinking

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how many applications / games have you used that maxed out all threads of your PC?

north bronze Dec 6, 2019, 12:03 PM

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multithreading is still a pain so I assume it's the reason not a lot of applications implement it unless it's critical to

brisk badger Dec 6, 2019, 12:03 PM

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I am not a software engineer but I work often with them close together. I can tell from experience that making games or applications perfect multithreading-friendly is very difficult

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it's a lot of money and time that has to be invested

north bronze Dec 6, 2019, 12:04 PM

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but as the years go on, I'm certain we'll be forced to use it

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doubt we'll be getting 10GHz single core anytime soon mmLul

brisk badger Dec 6, 2019, 12:04 PM

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and software devs are "lazy" (sorry shouldnt be taken offensively). if it works with singlethread why optimize it further

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I guess it will take some time till most devs adapt

north bronze Dec 6, 2019, 12:05 PM

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in game-dev it's also a matter of engine compatibility

brisk badger Dec 6, 2019, 12:05 PM

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In my opinion that is why AMD lost the battle for many many years

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true

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AMD was trying to push multithreaded so much but devs did not want to

north bronze Dec 6, 2019, 12:05 PM

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for example you can have multithreading in Unity but you can't do anything Unity-wise outside of its main thread

brisk badger Dec 6, 2019, 12:05 PM

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so what does a 8core CPU do with little IPC compared to the 4 core CPU with much more IPC

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devs choose second

north bronze Dec 6, 2019, 12:06 PM

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I mean the new ryzens are way cheaper than their intel counterparts

brisk badger Dec 6, 2019, 12:06 PM

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a lot of engine have a "world thread" that is bound to one thread yup

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oh I am still for supporting AMD 🙂

north bronze Dec 6, 2019, 12:06 PM

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and they perform greatly to the point where I hardly care about the single core performance, even tho they did great on it

brisk badger Dec 6, 2019, 12:06 PM

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the ryzen series is great

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but before (bulldozer and what are they called)

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where a disaster

north bronze Dec 6, 2019, 12:06 PM

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yup

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my rig's mainly designed for game dev, and the 3700x has been awesome so far

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and games run without issue so I don't really see any downside of going AMD for now

sick reef Dec 6, 2019, 12:24 PM

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It's like the car industry. The car does not have it not because it's a nice addition. It has it because it has to have it to be road legal. Generally speaking.
Like AdBlue.

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Speaking in contrast to multi-threading in games.

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If a small car has adblue system it's because the engine and it's associated systems produce too much particles. Seemingly also, on a related note, something more common on VW than other cars.

vapid jasper Dec 6, 2019, 1:08 PM

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bruh can the days go by faster

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i wanna play already

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BongoTapPing

fleet junco Dec 6, 2019, 1:59 PM

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I refuse to touch anything from AMD.

brisk badger Dec 6, 2019, 2:11 PM

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thanks to them we finally see progression in CPU architecture again

dusty pumice Dec 6, 2019, 2:12 PM

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I dont know why you would exclude a company from ever touching their products

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other than a company failing on delivering items or having tons of issues with them

brisk badger Dec 6, 2019, 2:14 PM

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making such a statement gives me the impression these people were born after the northbridge died 😛

radiant garnet Dec 6, 2019, 2:22 PM

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I mean, if AMD is off the table, and they care about security, that leaves VIA or a non x86/AMD64 based instruction set.

fleet junco Dec 6, 2019, 2:31 PM

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I've been using Intel since the beginning of time lol. Right now I'm using an i7 6700.

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And regarding AMD.. I just can't look past the negative reputation. The Ryzen 7 series may be nice, but still.

late sorrel Dec 6, 2019, 2:41 PM

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@sick reef hMM I wonder why

radiant garnet Dec 6, 2019, 2:47 PM

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@fleet junco If you really care about Intel and want intel to do better, buy AMD. Show intel that 10 years with 20% improved performance isn't good enough. Show intel that security matters to you, and show it the only way intel notices or cares; with your wallet.

fleet junco Dec 6, 2019, 2:49 PM

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Never said I cared about Intel either. Their CPUs have simply proven to be reliable (so far). I've had an i5 4460 before upgrading to the i7. I remember wanting to purchase an 8 core AMD CPU a few years ago.. Unfortunately I forgot the name. The CPU had a far better performance than the i5 I was forced to purchase instead, while being 30% cheaper lol. The store unfortunately didn't have the AMD.

brisk badger Dec 6, 2019, 2:49 PM

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intel had some good releases but I am verry dissapointed in what happened after releasing the 2nd gen i7 /i5/i3 cpu's

radiant garnet Dec 6, 2019, 2:50 PM

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Then I don't follow why you'd say 'I refuse to touch anything from AMD.'?

brisk badger Dec 6, 2019, 2:50 PM

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See it like this: AMD went all-in and gambled that software become multithreaded

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the software engineers killed AMD's hope. Intel won the battle

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Now AMD is back with same strategy + better IPC

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Both companies messed up the Spectre and Meltdown debacle but Intel was the bigger loser IMO

dusty pumice Dec 6, 2019, 2:51 PM

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Yeah if you considered buying a product from a company then it makes no sense you telling us

fleet junco Dec 6, 2019, 2:51 PM

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I mainly refuse to buy AMD because of their overheating issues. I've lost the count of how many articles I've read, how many rumors I've heard about the AMD CPUs requiring watercooling to function properly.

dusty pumice Dec 6, 2019, 2:51 PM

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you never willing to touch it

radiant garnet Dec 6, 2019, 2:52 PM

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Also of note with bulldozer; great with integer, shit at floats. They expected ints to be all there was, and use the GPU for any floats. They did major efforts towards HSA, but so far, it hasn't worked out well.

fleet junco Dec 6, 2019, 2:52 PM

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And the last thing I plan on doing is getting a watercooler.

radiant garnet Dec 6, 2019, 2:52 PM

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@fleet junco The current Ryzen breed isn't just cool, it's cool with the stock cooler. How does intel do with their stock cooler again, when they even sell it with the CPU? xD

fleet junco Dec 6, 2019, 2:53 PM

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I also remember a friend of mine from Britain sending me an image of his burned down PC case. Apparently he overclocked his Ryzen 7 to 5.0Ghz lol.

Intel's stock cooler is pathetic. I had to buy a cooler from Cooler Master because my i5 used to reach 80c.

chrome chasm Dec 6, 2019, 2:54 PM

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Who use stock cooler anyway?

radiant garnet Dec 6, 2019, 2:54 PM

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Anyone running AM4 recently? The exception being the 3950x missing a cooler ;-;

chrome chasm Dec 6, 2019, 2:54 PM

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I enjoy my massive heatsink

radiant garnet Dec 6, 2019, 2:57 PM

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I mean, running a noctua NH D15 with only one fan sure is quiet 💙

fleet junco Dec 6, 2019, 2:57 PM

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Think I'm going to need a new GPU next.. I've noticed my i7 idling at 60-70% while my GPU was maxed. Currently using a GTX 1060 6Gb 9Gbps Advanced Edition.

radiant garnet Dec 6, 2019, 3:02 PM

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The 5700 with not blower cooler is a really good price/performance and a neat upgrade from what you have currently!
Perf/dollar: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/sapphire-radeon-rx-5700-xt-nitro-special-edition/30.html
Perf avg: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/sapphire-radeon-rx-5700-xt-nitro-special-edition/28.html
Take a look at the graphs in different resolutions to find your best match!

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About double the performance of a 1060 6GB

fleet junco Dec 6, 2019, 3:04 PM

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I'm using a 24 inch monitor. I think that using anything below the standard would result in muddy graphics.

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1920x1080 being said standard.

radiant garnet Dec 6, 2019, 3:05 PM

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You almost always run a display at native res, yes

candid maple Dec 6, 2019, 6:44 PM

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i have a kinda random question, if a computer power supply malfunctions can it kill a motherboard? while keep providing power? like a friend of mine had a issue where the computer would turn on like fans moving and leds on but no screen projection or beeping sounds or any windows startup sound 🤔

mystic pasture Dec 6, 2019, 6:45 PM

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A PSU can definitely short out any component connected to it

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it's one of the more common failure points in a PC

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though, I'd argue after that happens, the PSU would likely be dead but I guess that doesn't have to be the case

vapid crypt Dec 6, 2019, 6:52 PM

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I heard its possible for a PSU to send too much voltage and not shut off, like the OVP fails to trigger and the connectors heat up and melt. Kinda scary to think about phaWesker

mystic pasture Dec 6, 2019, 6:53 PM

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^ that's how PSU fires start, another all to common occurrence

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you should replace your PSU ever 5 years at the latest give or take, they do only have so much life in them whereas other parts you can use for much longer

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also if the PSU doesn't have any well known rating (like 80 plus: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/80_Plus) then that's even more suspect for failure

candid maple Dec 6, 2019, 6:57 PM

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@vapid crypt well in this case it killed a motherboard and then i swaped the motherboard for another

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and same happen to the second one

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GWchinaSakuraThinking

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all working in the case but no signs of life on screen or speakers

mystic pasture Dec 6, 2019, 6:58 PM

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sounds like you should stop plugging parts into that PSU 😛

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do you have another PSU and a 3rd motherboard to test with?

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it could also be a dead GPU though that wouldn't explain no boot sounds

vapid crypt Dec 6, 2019, 6:59 PM

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I actually replaced the power supply on this pc after a few months cause I got buyers remorse reading about its various failures and negative reputation.

candid maple Dec 6, 2019, 6:59 PM

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well my friend got a new PSU and motherboard and is working now but yeah that stuff let me thinking if was me killing the motherboard with static which never happened before or if was PSU

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we tried a second GPU

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and a second PSU

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but well if motherboards were dead was no diferent

mystic pasture Dec 6, 2019, 6:59 PM

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if the PSU did short out, it could of fried everything too

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sometimes it's only 1 or 2 parts, other times it's all of them

vapid crypt Dec 6, 2019, 7:00 PM

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Also the 3 year warranty it has is probably not a good sign at all

mystic pasture Dec 6, 2019, 7:00 PM

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it's really hard to test exactly what went wrong in cases like that

candid maple Dec 6, 2019, 7:01 PM

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GWchinaSakuraThinking

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i didn't expect it to keep working and kill a second motherboard tho

mystic pasture Dec 6, 2019, 7:01 PM

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well a short won't necessarily kill the PSU

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which is why it's always a safe bet to pull the PSU out of the equation first

candid maple Dec 6, 2019, 7:02 PM

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so in case some hardware dies best option is to swap psu before trying other hardware?

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until we find out the problem that is

mystic pasture Dec 6, 2019, 7:03 PM

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^

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unless you have very good reason to believe it's definitely not the PSU

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IE, sounds still comes out but there's no video

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or your PC claims it has no RAM or it starts to boot but fails

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if I have no idea what happened, I always test the PSU first

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just to be safe

candid maple Dec 6, 2019, 7:04 PM

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how do you test a psu?

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without killing countless motherboards

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that is...

mystic pasture Dec 6, 2019, 7:06 PM

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well

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the classic way is to short the mobo power signal wire to ground

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usually that's the green wire if they're colored

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you'd connect that green wire to any black wire and then plug the PSU in to the wall and flip the switch on, you can use a paper clip or something conductive to do that

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if they're not colored though, you'll just have to look up the right pin

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something like

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http://www.smpspowersupply.com/connectors-pinouts.html

ATX Power Supply Pinout and Connectors

Pinouts for ATX-compliant computer power supply: 20 and 24-pin main connectors, 12V, SATA, PCI, floppy drive and other. Provides diagrams, wire colors and part numbers.

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note on that diagram there's only 1 green spot, connect that to any black spot

candid maple Dec 6, 2019, 7:09 PM

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damn that sounds complicated and probably dangerous for me to do GWahreeVampySmug

mystic pasture Dec 6, 2019, 7:09 PM

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if the PSU fan starts spinning up, the PSU is likely fine. But in the event something more sinister is at play, you'd need to be handy with a Multi meter and electrical engineering to make further guesses as to if it's broken or not

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it's super not complicated and not dangerous

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I'll find a video for you, hold on

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA_bPiWl3oE

YouTube

rogueamp

Testing a Power Supply with a Paperclip

Brief demonstration of a somewhat crude way of testing a power supply without a tester. I wouldn't recommend this unless you know what you're doing.

▶ Play video

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literally that's it, it's very easy and safe

candid maple Dec 6, 2019, 7:17 PM

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@mystic pasture but doesn't that just make the fan spin?

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i could see it spining inside the case

mystic pasture Dec 6, 2019, 7:17 PM

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the fan spinning indicates that the entire PSU is now alive

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90% of the time this means everything is all good

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it could of just been a motherboard failure too

candid maple Dec 6, 2019, 7:18 PM

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well 2 motherboards failures in a row...

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is kinda suspicious

mystic pasture Dec 6, 2019, 7:18 PM

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yeah, which is why I was saying before you might need to take further steps in testing it

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it's not impossible something broke in the PSU so it's still able to power up but it's totally unusable

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I've never dealt with an issue like that personally so idk what the best next steps would be to narrow it down

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maybe using a multimeter to test the voltages on all teh rails, make sure those numbers match what the rails say they should be, ie you 12v/5v/3.3v rails

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but I'm really not sure, it's outside my wheel house 😕

candid maple Dec 6, 2019, 7:20 PM

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yeah i have asked multiple people already no one seems to fully know what it was, most suspect it was the PSU and Motherboard

mystic pasture Dec 6, 2019, 7:20 PM

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how old is all the hardware?

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is it name brand or cheaper off brand stuff?

candid maple Dec 6, 2019, 7:21 PM

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well i'm not exactely sure but first stuff was 2 generations down second stuff we tried was 1 generation old by tech standards

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so probably at least 6 years old

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stuff

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or more

mystic pasture Dec 6, 2019, 7:22 PM

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yeah I mean it's not brand new

candid maple Dec 6, 2019, 7:22 PM

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first was off brand second motherboard was from intel

mystic pasture Dec 6, 2019, 7:22 PM

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was the inside regularly cleaned?

candid maple Dec 6, 2019, 7:22 PM

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asus i think

mystic pasture Dec 6, 2019, 7:22 PM

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it could of cooked itself to death

candid maple Dec 6, 2019, 7:22 PM

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well first stuff wasn't the case was kinda disgusting

mystic pasture Dec 6, 2019, 7:22 PM

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ahh

candid maple Dec 6, 2019, 7:22 PM

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but the stuff fried on the new case

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with a new board

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clean

mystic pasture Dec 6, 2019, 7:23 PM

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I mean the heat could of killed some essential stuff in the PSU which then cascaded failures out to other parts

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there's so many possibilities

candid maple Dec 6, 2019, 7:23 PM

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his pc was working but we were gonna swap the motherboard cause his was malfuctioning on some ram sockets

mystic pasture Dec 6, 2019, 7:23 PM

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if it were me, I'd get a brand new PSU that's 80+ gold at least and then get a new mobo too

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sounds like there's a lot of stuff failing with no probably cause which probably means most of the parts are messed up now and the PSU is definitely suspect

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definitely get your GPU out of there ASAP so that if it's not damaged yet, it doesn't have an opportunity to be

candid maple Dec 6, 2019, 7:25 PM

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well if it killed the gpu is already dead, it was old unused hardware than i used years ago than i tried to find the cause

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i didn't try it yet since i don't got another spare motherboard

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i think it killed his gpu tho

radiant garnet Dec 6, 2019, 7:25 PM

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I've had two computers 'die' on me from bad PSUs. First one never worked right after it's event, and the second one I'm running now. Most parts are behaving oddly, and I fail memtest. Not by much, just rowhammer, but still...

candid maple Dec 6, 2019, 7:25 PM

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since he had to buy a new one

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aswell

radiant garnet Dec 6, 2019, 7:26 PM

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If the PSU goes bad, assume all other parts are zombies until proven otherwise.

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As for what PSU to choose, I always refer to the PSU tier list at LTT:
https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1116640-psu-tier-list-40/

candid maple Dec 6, 2019, 7:27 PM

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i usualy go for corsair or cooler master they cheap and got good reputation

radiant garnet Dec 6, 2019, 7:29 PM

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I'd check the list if you don't know PSUs well, how different components effect safety and performance etc. I've never got on top of it, so I trust the tier-list blindly. The people there know much, much more than me, and if anything, they're a bit conservative with the ratings, which is fine by me.

mystic pasture Dec 6, 2019, 7:29 PM

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Yeah as @radiant garnet a PSU failure is usually catastrophic to the whole build sadly

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Corsair is a very safe bet for affordable/reliable PSU's

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that's what I use now and have never had an issue

candid maple Dec 6, 2019, 7:30 PM

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thats kinda scary... also reminds me of when i built my setup i got a MSI motherboard with some voltage spike protection cause sometimes there are storm blackouts in my zone i wonder if that can protect system from a PSU?

radiant garnet Dec 6, 2019, 7:30 PM

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Corsair have PSUs in almost all categories from 'E' aka fire hazard for reals, and S aka 'best of the best'

mystic pasture Dec 6, 2019, 7:31 PM

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The PSU would absorb all that stuff for you

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a good PSU will at least

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also using a surge protector to power the PSU is a safe bet

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and a UPS if you're really paranoid 😛

radiant garnet Dec 6, 2019, 7:32 PM

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@candid maple If there's lightning striking near you, only unplugging from the wall will save you. It's enough power to arc across hundreds of meters of air; a small fuse won't do shit.

mystic pasture Dec 6, 2019, 7:32 PM

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That's assuming the lightning strike directly hits the computer

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otherwise you're safe

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think about sitting in your car, a lightning bolt hitting the roof won't even be noticeable to you, besides maybe a lot of light and burn mark where it was hit

radiant garnet Dec 6, 2019, 7:33 PM

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I'm assuming within the same 'substation' area. That's usually a couple of houses or a block or so.

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As for a car, that's a faraday cage; the lightning goes around you because that's significantly less resistance, then it arcs to the ground.

candid maple Dec 6, 2019, 7:34 PM

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once saw a video of a car igniting on fire from a lightning strike

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the people inside were safe tho

mystic pasture Dec 6, 2019, 7:35 PM

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Just like the structure you live in too

candid maple Dec 6, 2019, 7:35 PM

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they all left the car

mystic pasture Dec 6, 2019, 7:35 PM

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lightning would have to literally strike the computer to have an effect

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otherwise the worst that could happen is a power outage

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which while that's not great, probably won't kill anything

candid maple Dec 6, 2019, 7:35 PM

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sometimes lightning kills eletrodometics my parents like to turn of the house power during storms

mystic pasture Dec 6, 2019, 7:36 PM

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unless you're not in a country with electrical standards that specifically prevent that

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like in the US, something like lightning could never do anything to your precious rig

candid maple Dec 6, 2019, 7:36 PM

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once one lightning hit nearby the village and killed a lot of eletrodomestics from houses around

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we weren't afected tho

mystic pasture Dec 6, 2019, 7:36 PM

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That's why you have breakers and fuses all around, at least one of them would pop well before it became a worry

radiant garnet Dec 6, 2019, 7:37 PM

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Electrical standard in norway is AFAIK very good, but I won't trust my gear to that. Not worth the risk at all.

Also, those fuses are made for consumer levels of loads. Not lightning strikes. Ever seen a too small a fuse used in a high load environment? They can become short circuits instead of breaking xD

mystic pasture Dec 6, 2019, 7:38 PM

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fuses sure, but not breakers

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lightning is very common

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houses are designed to be able to withstand electrical anomalies like that

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otherwise every time lightning struck, everything would start going haywire

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especially in a country like norway, they're standard would be as good (if not better) than the standards here in the US

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and not once has lightning literally every done anything to my hardware

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I've had lightning hit my house, my yard, neighbors yards, pools, etc literally nothing has ever happened

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if it hits say, a transformer or one of the poles outside, you'll probably lose power, but that's for the UI company to fix and once it's back up, all your hardware will still be working

candid maple Dec 6, 2019, 7:40 PM

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geez thats kinda scary to live there GWslippyPeepoW

mystic pasture Dec 6, 2019, 7:40 PM

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it's not lmao, it's totally normal lmao

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it's not like every day, just when there's storms directly over head

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it's probably happened to everyone in the discord, you may just have not specifically witnessed it

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I'm only being so adamant cause I don't want someone thinking a measly thunderstorm can fry their PC

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like that literally won't happen

candid maple Dec 6, 2019, 7:41 PM

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lightning here usualy fall in other places usualy trees on nearby hill not really on the houses... never saw lightning marks around my house

mystic pasture Dec 6, 2019, 7:42 PM

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yeah I live in a really flat area so lightning kinda goes where ever lol

candid maple Dec 6, 2019, 7:42 PM

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GWvertiPeepoChrist

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i never really had lightning problems either but well i live in a crap old village so maybe thats why it could damage my neighboards eletrodomestics

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probably bad equipement

mystic pasture Dec 6, 2019, 7:44 PM

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yeah, poor electrical infrastructure can lead to lightning being able to cause damage

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so it all depends on what standars your country has put in place, and how well those standards are upheld

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like if all safety measures are ignored, of course something more drastic can take place

candid maple Dec 6, 2019, 7:45 PM

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probably not very well we look prehistoric

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GWchinaUgandaW

mystic pasture Dec 6, 2019, 7:45 PM

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I would just get a surge protector then

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it's at least some defense

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and usually they're pretty cheap

candid maple Dec 6, 2019, 7:46 PM

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hmm well i never had problems with any of that so idk if is worth it GWchinaSakuraThinking

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but yeah i should probably get one in future or something

mystic pasture Dec 6, 2019, 7:46 PM

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if you haven't had issues yet, it's proballyyyyyy fine

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but you never know, and Idk what your exact setup is so I can only comment from my own experience

candid maple Dec 6, 2019, 7:47 PM

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i should think of replacing my PSU for a new one tho all this talk about bad PSU frying PCs is kinda scary my current PSU is around 3-5 years old already

radiant garnet Dec 6, 2019, 7:47 PM

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CPUs don't tend to die, unless you're running with high voltage 24/7

candid maple Dec 6, 2019, 7:48 PM

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PSU*

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my bad

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edited it

radiant garnet Dec 6, 2019, 7:49 PM

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Ah, I see.
Though, speaking of CPUs dying...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_4#Northwood Gotta love SNDS! xD

mystic pasture Dec 6, 2019, 7:49 PM

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what PSU do you have?

candid maple Dec 6, 2019, 7:50 PM

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no idea don't remember anymore i just know is a 500w corsair PSU i got for 50€

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so not very fancy

radiant garnet Dec 6, 2019, 7:50 PM

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How old?

candid maple Dec 6, 2019, 7:50 PM

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as i said 3-5 years not sure

mystic pasture Dec 6, 2019, 7:51 PM

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well if it's corsair, it's probably fine

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I've had my corsair for ~4 years now and she's still going strong

candid maple Dec 6, 2019, 7:51 PM

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so far never caused me problems

mystic pasture Dec 6, 2019, 7:51 PM

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not planning on replacing it until another year or two from now

candid maple Dec 6, 2019, 7:52 PM

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so far never caused me problems

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i try to clean my system every year tho

radiant garnet Dec 6, 2019, 7:52 PM

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Tier C: CX 2012 <=600w - CXM 2012 <=600w - VS 2017
Tier E: VS 2012
If it's not one of those, probably very good. If it's one of those, consider a replacement sooner rather than later

mystic pasture Dec 6, 2019, 7:52 PM

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you should clean it every month 😛

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but I may just be a bit OCD about it

candid maple Dec 6, 2019, 7:52 PM

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well i used to clean it every 3 months but got lazy :V

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usualy doesn't get much dust

radiant garnet Dec 6, 2019, 7:53 PM

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Eh, if you live somewhat cleanly, 2 times a year is good if you have dust-filters on the input fans and positive pressure in the case.

mystic pasture Dec 6, 2019, 7:53 PM

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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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so much this

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I've seen some weird airflow setups in my time

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I've seen some weird airflow setups in my time

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I've seen some weird airflow setups in my time

radiant garnet Dec 6, 2019, 7:54 PM

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Sure, you might get slightly higher air-flow from a negative pressure setup. For 2 weeks. Then everything is covered in dust xD

mystic pasture Dec 6, 2019, 7:54 PM

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Discord is acting really weird...

candid maple Dec 6, 2019, 7:55 PM

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well i should probably get a new case tho tbh

mystic pasture Dec 6, 2019, 7:55 PM

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Same, I've been eyeing up the Q300L

candid maple Dec 6, 2019, 7:56 PM

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mine is a bit messed up have to keep front open

mystic pasture Dec 6, 2019, 7:56 PM

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I've wanted a case that doesn't use front mounted USB's/switches for so long because of how I have my PC setup

radiant garnet Dec 6, 2019, 7:57 PM

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For cases, I'm in love with fractal, especially the define series. Simple, clean, easy to build in, and available with transparent side panel if you want your computer to be brighter than your screen

mystic pasture Dec 6, 2019, 7:57 PM

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agreed, they are really nice

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the meshify C was my second choice

candid maple Dec 6, 2019, 8:04 PM

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well i don't really got leds or a desk to show off my computer side

mystic pasture Dec 6, 2019, 8:05 PM

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I don't either, but I still like my PC on my desk to reduce dust

candid maple Dec 6, 2019, 8:07 PM

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📎 20191206_200553.jpg

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mine is currently like this.... cause the front painel sound plug got a bad contact and i gotta like stretch the wire to make it work... wich is weird but well is a work around for now... GWcmeisterPeepoShrug

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and yeah is a bit dusty

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gotta clean it soon

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GWahreeSure

mystic pasture Dec 6, 2019, 8:09 PM

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👀 👀 👀 👀

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def upgrade that asap lmao

candid maple Dec 6, 2019, 8:10 PM

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well i'm planing to swap motherboard for one with 4 ram sockets and replace the case

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don't know when i'm gonna do that no money for such at moment

mystic pasture Dec 6, 2019, 8:12 PM

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save save save

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I'm doing the same thing right now

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it's tough

vapid crypt Dec 6, 2019, 8:15 PM

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I got this Cougar case off Newegg for 50 bucks. Pretty good deal, full mesh front and tempered glass side

📎 IMG_20191206_151305.jpg

mystic pasture Dec 6, 2019, 8:16 PM

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noice

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looks clean

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I don't have any recent pictures of mine 😦

vapid crypt Dec 6, 2019, 8:18 PM

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My only problem is the front intake technically supports either 3 120mm fans or 2 140mm... but not really I had to zip tie the 140s on because the mounting holes were likely only for radiators

mystic pasture Dec 6, 2019, 8:19 PM

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hey if it works, then that's all that matters

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I've had my fair share of zip tied components as well

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including one time I zipped a hard drive in becuase I ran out of bays

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lmao

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I've had my fair share of zip tied components as well

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I've had my fair share of zip tied components as well

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including one time I zipped a hard drive in becuase I ran out of bays

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including one time I zipped a hard drive in becuase I ran out of bays

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including one time I zipped a hard drive in becuase I ran out of bays

vapid crypt Dec 6, 2019, 8:23 PM

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I'm fortunate they like adding zipties in with PSUs, with the little amount of cables I'm using I didn't really need them

candid maple Dec 6, 2019, 8:23 PM

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my case was also 50€ but it sucks is falling apart

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cheap material

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GWahreeVampySmug

mystic pasture Dec 6, 2019, 8:26 PM

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Oh God that sent 3 times, damn discord lag

abstract kite Dec 6, 2019, 9:52 PM

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Squirrel the lag makes you look like you're mentally unstable and trying to convince yourself that you didnt make the wrong decision lmao

mystic pasture Dec 6, 2019, 9:54 PM

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lmao, that may be partially true as well @abstract kite

abstract kite Dec 6, 2019, 9:54 PM

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👀

fleet canopy Dec 6, 2019, 10:07 PM

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Yay I got my Dark Rock Pro 4

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:)

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Also why the hell did I get two thermal paste applicators?

brisk badger Dec 6, 2019, 10:13 PM

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LOL

abstract kite Dec 6, 2019, 10:15 PM

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Extra isnt bad

vapid crypt Dec 6, 2019, 10:16 PM

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Thermal paste applicators meaning that small plastic spatula to spread the paste?

brisk badger Dec 6, 2019, 10:17 PM

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I had a flashback about the Verge PC Build Video when reading thermal paste applicators 😂

fleet canopy Dec 6, 2019, 10:18 PM

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Nah just the paste container

vapid crypt Dec 6, 2019, 10:18 PM

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"You're gonna need Tweezers" places zip ties on table

fleet canopy Dec 6, 2019, 10:18 PM

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First, you need a table

vapid crypt Dec 6, 2019, 10:19 PM

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I will build it on the floor if I must Mr. Verge phaWesker

fleet canopy Dec 6, 2019, 10:19 PM

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I will build it midair if I must, Mr. Verge

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Box feels

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Huge for a CPU cooler lmao

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Guy: Rips apart the fucking box to get it open

vapid crypt Dec 6, 2019, 10:21 PM

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A cooler I'd like to get whenever I upgrade, or maybe even just for the sake of getting an all black cooler is the Arctic Freezer 34 eSports. I've heard really good things about especially for the money

fleet canopy Dec 6, 2019, 10:21 PM

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Guy: Put in too much paste it looks like someone took a shit on the CPU

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Why the fuck do I have like

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500 manuals of the DRP4

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Languages

brisk badger Dec 6, 2019, 10:23 PM

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incase a box get's sent to the verge HQ

fleet canopy Dec 6, 2019, 10:23 PM

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Fucking hell lmao

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Like

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500 manuals

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Each is its own languages

brisk badger Dec 6, 2019, 10:23 PM

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probably can make a manual just with pictures for CPU heatsink installation

fleet canopy Dec 6, 2019, 10:24 PM

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Dutch, whatever PL is, Spanish, Russian, English, French

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Too bad it doesn't have 'The Verge' language

vapid crypt Dec 6, 2019, 10:24 PM

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The Deepcool cooler I have literally just had a diagram on the top of the box after opening it

fleet canopy Dec 6, 2019, 10:24 PM

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Such an advanced language

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"Tweezers"

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"Brick"

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"CPU installer"

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"Table"

brisk badger Dec 6, 2019, 10:25 PM

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tbh, I would never read or trust any article of this company anylonger

fleet canopy Dec 6, 2019, 10:25 PM

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lol

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After that video

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It's clear they fucking suck

brisk badger Dec 6, 2019, 10:25 PM

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i mean, that's kinda what they are about

fleet canopy Dec 6, 2019, 10:26 PM

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They're supposed to be stupid? GWdogawooShy

brisk badger Dec 6, 2019, 10:26 PM

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poor guy who was in the video

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and the sponsor 😂

fleet canopy Dec 6, 2019, 10:26 PM

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Haha yah

brisk badger Dec 6, 2019, 10:26 PM

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if it would have been released on first of april, it would have been great

fleet canopy Dec 6, 2019, 10:26 PM

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Even had the twitter handle of the guy

brisk badger Dec 6, 2019, 10:26 PM

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sadly the verge even sent DCMA strikes

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*takedowns not strikes

fleet canopy Dec 6, 2019, 10:27 PM

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DCMA?

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Oh look

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I got a screwdriver to come with DRP4

brisk badger Dec 6, 2019, 10:27 PM

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a copyright takedown

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dmca sorry it's called

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https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/02/the-verge-briefly-censored-youtubers-who-mocked-its-bad-pc-building-advice/

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sadly dmca takedowns are often blindly followed by youtube.
they start however punishing wrongly issued takedown requests 🙏

fleet canopy Dec 6, 2019, 10:32 PM

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The 2nd fan

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The on in between the two big heatsinks

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Is not installed

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:)

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Why bequiet?

fleet canopy Dec 6, 2019, 11:04 PM

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What the FUCK

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Even the god damn CPU cooler came WITH THERMAL PASTE

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Why me GWmythicalFeelsSadMan

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This is such a bullshit thing lmao

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Getting all of this unneeded shit

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omg

abstract kite Dec 6, 2019, 11:33 PM

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bruh that shit lasts a while

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just keep it lol

fleet canopy Dec 6, 2019, 11:39 PM

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Artic Silver 5 high dens

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And one small ass shitty thermal paste Maybe?

abstract kite Dec 6, 2019, 11:44 PM

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Artic Silver 5 is good stuff

molten acorn Dec 7, 2019, 12:00 AM

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:o

bitter dragon Dec 7, 2019, 2:36 AM

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I got my pc all together and stuff and things for GTFO.

fleet canopy Dec 7, 2019, 2:39 AM

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Lovely

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Pictures?

bitter dragon Dec 7, 2019, 2:41 AM

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Don't have them. Just managed to benchmark it.

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📎 unknown.png

fleet canopy Dec 7, 2019, 2:43 AM

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Nice

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What game?

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Also how do I get my PC to detect 2nd monitor?

bitter dragon Dec 7, 2019, 2:43 AM

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Horizon 4.

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Windows 10?

fleet canopy Dec 7, 2019, 2:44 AM

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Yes

bitter dragon Dec 7, 2019, 2:44 AM

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Display settings.

📎 unknown.png

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https://gyazo.com/50e46517a2c63704b5c1e99cddbff26a

fleet canopy Dec 7, 2019, 2:45 AM

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No work

bitter dragon Dec 7, 2019, 2:45 AM

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Can't detect it?

fleet canopy Dec 7, 2019, 2:45 AM

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No detect, ye

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Ok wow nevermind

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I just didn't push the thing in far enough

bitter dragon Dec 7, 2019, 2:46 AM

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<.<

molten acorn Dec 7, 2019, 4:18 AM

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wink

fleet junco Dec 7, 2019, 6:45 AM

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Haha

quasi copper Dec 7, 2019, 7:44 AM

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can a 1050ti4gb i7-8750 8gb ram laptop run this smoothly

tepid dew Dec 7, 2019, 7:52 AM

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My desktop with an i5-8400, 4GB 1050 Ti, and 8GB of RAM runs this game at 60+ FPS, so I think you'll be okay.

random mural Dec 7, 2019, 7:52 AM

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hiiiii

abstract kite Dec 7, 2019, 7:52 AM

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@tawny kettle what all do you intend to run with this new graphics card?

tawny kettle Dec 7, 2019, 7:53 AM

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fps mostly

abstract kite Dec 7, 2019, 7:53 AM

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@quasi copper you should be able to run this game.

fleet canopy Dec 7, 2019, 7:53 AM

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Graphics card imo would be 5700, 50$ less than most 5700XT cards, and can run 1080p at 144hz pretty well I believe

tepid dew Dec 7, 2019, 7:53 AM

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I've played this before, I was saying if mine can, his can.

abstract kite Dec 7, 2019, 7:53 AM

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Yea I reread that lol. I'm tired

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sorry for the tag

fleet canopy Dec 7, 2019, 7:53 AM

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Unleeeesssss

tepid dew Dec 7, 2019, 7:53 AM

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So am I

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IT IS 04:00 AM

abstract kite Dec 7, 2019, 7:54 AM

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Yikes

fleet canopy Dec 7, 2019, 7:54 AM

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You could find a 1080 for 400$ maybe, best deal for it

tepid dew Dec 7, 2019, 7:54 AM

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GOOD FUCKIN NIGHT

tawny kettle Dec 7, 2019, 7:54 AM

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Only got 2 hours of sleep the last 2 days so my eyes are heavy

abstract kite Dec 7, 2019, 7:54 AM

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Far east coast? Nova Scotia perhaps?

tawny kettle Dec 7, 2019, 7:54 AM

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About to pass out

fleet canopy Dec 7, 2019, 7:54 AM

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Go to sleep

tepid dew Dec 7, 2019, 7:54 AM

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Close. New Brunswick.

fleet canopy Dec 7, 2019, 7:54 AM

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Is important

abstract kite Dec 7, 2019, 7:54 AM

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Oh shit wow

tawny kettle Dec 7, 2019, 7:54 AM

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I liveing off coffee

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So im good

abstract kite Dec 7, 2019, 7:54 AM

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Cat SLEEP

tawny kettle Dec 7, 2019, 7:54 AM

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I think

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Nao

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Im good

fleet canopy Dec 7, 2019, 7:54 AM

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Sleep is better than drinking caffeine shit

abstract kite Dec 7, 2019, 7:55 AM

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Caffeine will bottom you out harder than an RKO

fleet canopy Dec 7, 2019, 7:55 AM

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Yeah

tawny kettle Dec 7, 2019, 7:55 AM

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But