#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk

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late sorrel
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oh wait

fleet canopy
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I guess someone's done it

cold jasper
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I'm running a 1920x lol

late sorrel
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wait why no cooler 3700x

fleet canopy
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They changed the all powerful ram

late sorrel
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that’s crazy

fleet canopy
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Well I did ask for a black/red aesthetics help

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Can't I just paint the RAM black/red...?

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Only 70$ less than my list

cold jasper
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tie dye them? lol

fleet canopy
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I mean, pretty much lol

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But ehh

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Alr, I'll change my list up a bit

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Only one black/red X570 board

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4 ram slots, supports 128 GB, 170$

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RGB is said to be shit lol

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Well time to switch to black

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Which doesn't have a single board under 200$ for X570

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Apparently I heard a MAX B450 can support the Ryzen 3000 series?

bronze cloak
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Yeah, the MAX boards have their BIOS chip ready out of box

fleet canopy
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I've

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Seen it?

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Didn't get cause green top >.>

bronze cloak
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I mean you're literally never gonna see it once it's inside the case

fleet canopy
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Honestly

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It's the only part of that PSU being ugly

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lmao

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But yeah I'll add

bronze cloak
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The cooler is pretty overkill for a 3600 but it doesn't hurt anything of course

fleet canopy
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Well

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212?

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Cooler Master Hyper 212

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It apparently said it has some 'issue' with placing on X570 boards?

bronze cloak
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Any 212 variant would be good, the mounting thing shouldn't be an issue as Cooler Master ships it with new mounting hardware. If you want the same aesthetic you can get one of the cheaper be quiet! coolers

fleet canopy
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Maybe I'll just go black for cooler

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None of the black/red seems good lol

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Dark Rock 4 instead of Pro?

bronze cloak
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That would be great, sure

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At $200 I would recommend getting a monitor with a VA panel, just has better color than a TN

fleet canopy
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Yeah

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I just don't know which is better lmao

bronze cloak
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Any of the MSI ones should be good, unless you don't want a curved monitor

fleet canopy
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Curved, ehh

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How different would curved be?

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Cheapest I could find with black or black/red color

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Not gonna include the B450 lol

bronze cloak
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Aside from the Asrock Pro4 pretty much all the X570 boards are good, just depends on the features you need. that one would be just fine.

fleet canopy
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Mmk

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I know the G.Skill Trident Z Neo works best with AMD, any other kinds?

late sorrel
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speedy bois

bronze cloak
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The whole AMD optimized thing is basically just for advertising, as long as it's from a well known manufacturer they should perform the same as any other memory kits at the same spec

fleet canopy
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Hm

bronze cloak
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Of course there's nothing wrong with the Neo, they're still great memory kits

fleet canopy
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Yeah GWworkshopAkaShrug

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Not much difference between 3200 and 3600 either?

bronze cloak
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Depends on the workload, the difference can definitely be noticeable. If you have the money to spare you can go with a 3600 kit

fleet canopy
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Supposedly heard 3600Mhz needed for Ryzen 3000 series, might be uhh

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3200 and 3600 doesn't seem much difference in pricing lol

bronze cloak
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3600 isn't needed, it's really just the "sweet spot" where you can get the best balance of speed and timings without too much hassle

fleet canopy
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Seeing too much G.Skill trident Z kits, so I'll just get one lmao

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Now for case

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How's this now?

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Managed around 1600$, some haven't been able to follow the black/red but I don't mind too much

bronze cloak
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You can't fit 3 140mm fans in there, one of them has to be a 120mm. Other than that, it looks great!

fleet canopy
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Alrighty

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Just never knew the sizing for fans, but only saw 140mm

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Okay neat

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Found same exact fan at 120mm

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Okay coolio it's done

copper zealot
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Question

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If you are doing around $500 why don't you lookup a 1080ti

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Pretty sure it has better performance than the nvidia 5700

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Unless you are doing the infinity fabric but that will be more towards workstation

tepid ridge
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@dense wasp sorry for the late reply but i tried in both exclusive fullscreen and windowed fullscreen and there were very minimal fps changes as for cpu culling im unsure on what it does.

sick reef
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Just play around with it and see if anything improves. It decreases load on the GPU onto the CPU.

fair gull
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ive finished my fiest expedition

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and game seems choppy alot

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well theres no drivers and its alpha

main river
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@fair gull Have you tried restarting the game? There seems to be some kind of bug where the game starts stuttering, but a restart should fix it.

fair gull
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@main river i think its more drivers bound ,couldnt get any stable frame rate but game was pretty playable tho ,most of times around 90 FPS ,in horde part fps dropped to 40 (almost died there)

main river
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Ah, okay. Probably just some normal stability issues then, as you said.

fair gull
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it was playable ,theres no drivers ,so FPS drops are totaly understable ,looking foward to buy game in future ,its what i expected it to be ,closed scary horror experiance ,where cooperation between players is essencial ,animations of monsters seemed a bit choppy and laggy (synchronizaction issues same as PayDay 2 had for a long time)

sick reef
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Long time is an understatement

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More than majority of its time.

fair gull
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i think its here bounded to host himself ,game uses P2P connection?

unborn salmon
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@fair gull yes

fleet canopy
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@copper zealot is it? A 2070 S has to be better than a 1080 Ti, plus I don’t think 1080 Ti is at 500$

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I’ve only seen them in 700-1000$

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But there once was a sale on a Zotac 1080 Ti for 440$-

ionic rampart
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hey guys

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wonder how I can reset GTFO's video config, can't open it

thorn inlet
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go to C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\LocalLow\10 Chambers Collective\GTFO and delete GTFO_Settings.txt

hot pier
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do you know what is the minimal GPU to run the game?

plucky relic
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Just came to say, an I5 8600K and an RX 580 can easily run the game at around 80 FPS while streaming 1080P, 60 FPS with low latency. As for what it is rn, the game runs fantastic Imo.

late sorrel
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^ look at this masterpeice

plucky relic
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That's Microsoft's finest optimization in just an image lmao

late sorrel
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@wheat magnet I found a game you can actually play

copper zealot
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@fleet canopy unless you are doing Ray tracing the 1080ti is equi of 2080 and you can get them used with warranty still, that is what i did with mine

fleet canopy
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Hm

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I'll check some videos later on for compared power

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tbh I went for 5700XT for price to perf, and it seems like a great GPU for me tbh

crystal garden
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imagine being able to play at 90 fps

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i'd rather play at a "stable" 40 on high settings than a "stable" 60+ on low

fleet canopy
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At any settings, always 40 FPS for me

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kek

main river
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Have you turned off Vsync? @fleet canopy

fleet canopy
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Believe I have done so

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I'll check

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Not disabled, yeet

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It's been disabled, anything else?

lunar wing
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What kinda PCs u guys got I can run almost any game @ maxed 144-250

fleet canopy
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tf dude lmao

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I've heard 580 with AMD CPU can run game 60+

main river
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Disabling Vsync should do it

fleet canopy
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7700K @dense lion20GHz and 1060 3GB :)

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Oh fuck

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Ehh

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No one's seen him, dead account

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Still seeing 30-45 FPS

lunar wing
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Okay u def have vsync on turn it off

late sorrel
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570 w/amd cpu can run the game 60+ FPS

lunar wing
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Ik u should definitely get more frames then that with a 1060

fleet canopy
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Still 30-45 FPS

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no difference lol

lunar wing
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What game are u doing this on gtfo? @fleet canopy

fleet canopy
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?

copper zealot
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I'm running 3900x with 1080ti

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32gb ram

fleet canopy
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How's FPS for you?

copper zealot
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Steady 60+

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Single room fights non choppy

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multi rooms turn into slight choppyness

abstract kite
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I got a gtx 770 and I still get 60fps solid on low-med. Except the times when I get only max 10 during the whole "match"

pale arrow
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Time to upgrade

humble solstice
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I got a Threadripper 1920x with a 2080ti & 32gb of ram

fleet canopy
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Bet you're getting 45 FPS-

zealous crypt
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hey all, my laptop is pretty bad, and im trying to lower everything so its playable. i have no idea what "cpu culling workload" is and am not sure whether to set it to "small" or "extreme". dont want to crash my computer on accident :)

bronze cloak
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basically the higher you set it, the more work is loaded onto the CPU instead of the GPU

zealous crypt
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is that bad short or long term, or just another option

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also, ty

fleet canopy
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So I should set it like

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5/10 of it?

plucky relic
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Game's doing 80 stable FPS while stream recording at 1080P, 60 FPS, 12500 Rate. Medium settings with Vsync enabled.
I believe it could run the game up to 120 easily without any recording

I5-8600K, RX 580, 16 RAM (1 Card, 2333)

fleet canopy
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lmao

plucky relic
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Actually, just ended a successful expedition with a friendo. The stream may look a bit like shit, but that's because I'm literally the worst setting up OBS for streams

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So afaIk, the game ain't asking too much on the CPU, GPU seems to be playing the exact same role on minimum and maximum settings

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Had a friend with some issues, and deactivating Vsync drastically helped him apparently.

zealous crypt
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is lag between mouse movement a computer problem or a quality problem?

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or something else?

humble solstice
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@fleet canopy no over 60

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Everything maxed out in 1440p

north bronze
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@zealous crypt perhaps vsync

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try turning it on/off and see if it does a difference

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it can in some cases introduce input lag

zealous crypt
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k, ill try and figure out how to do that

zealous crypt
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any idea where to find it? i dont have nvidia

humble solstice
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@zealous crypt it’s in the in game settings

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Full name is vertical sync

zealous crypt
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oh, i was just looking through my computer the whole time lol

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ty

hexed horizon
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well my computer made a click noise

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and my screen turned black for a second

zealous crypt
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did you click something?

hexed horizon
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i accidnetly pulled my computer away while the HDMi was plugged in

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that was a while ago

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well i hope my gpu didnt go to shit

humble solstice
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Blow on it. Plug it in. Fixed 👌🏻

fleet canopy
jovial vector
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whatdatfor?

fleet canopy
zealous crypt
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does this meet the min req?

flint lantern
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You can download the game and try it out

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It's looking a bit on the hard side for those specs to run it smoothly though

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Unless there's a dedicated GPU in there

zealous crypt
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i did i just cant solve the input lag problem, so wondering if this is why

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it runs with less than ideal smoothness, but a 1 second lag between actions makes stealth difficult and fighting near impossible

thick mortar
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Anyone have an issue where the game starts to launch, a unity window opens and then the game just quits?

bronze forge
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Has been prolly asked a ton of times but has anyone had poor performance with Ryzen CPUs? Using a 3700x + RTX 2080 gave me 80-100fps at most which seems a bit on the low side considering the hardware?

fleet canopy
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I mean, if you can do 60+ FPS, you're good off

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7700K and 1060 3GB does 45 FPS. Tried different settings, Vsync off, no change

bronze forge
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I mean yeah doesnt really matter but its strange seeing friends with a GTX 1070 pull the same frames as me with a 2080 so I dont know if its the processor or just the optimisation.

fleet canopy
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Not really sure either

flint lantern
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Volumetric fog+lighting too stronk

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Getting similar frames with a i5 8600K/2080Ti

fiery nacelle
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@zealous crypt it doesn't meet the official minimum requirements

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An A8-5545M at 1.7GHz with its integrated Radeon HD 8510G will likely not be able to run the game well at decent settings, if it even runs at all

bitter dragon
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I'm going to be honest with you... I don't know how to check my fps.

fiery nacelle
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would be great option for the game to include an fps and frametime counter

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I haven't tried afterburner with RTSS yet

zealous crypt
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@fiery nacelle ty, which section has the min req posted?

fiery nacelle
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well, the game can run somewhat (albeit with much lower settings) even with hardware weaker than the official minimum requirements, but too much weaker and it would become an unplayable experience

proud shard
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Any ones budget pc actually able to run this game decently?

fleet canopy
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RX 580 paired with 2600 works well by one user

ebon wren
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I have a little problems
When I fire a sniper&machine gun recoil make me spin really hard it's take 30 sec for stopspinning so when it stop my gun was broken like when I aim smtn and shoot it fire but not at my aim it's move to my left cornor below of the screen and sometime my hands come to close my screen in my aim sights too so I can use only use hammer

It spin like this video

https://youtu.be/qavg7sCNvbs

I'm not good in english Sorry

misty vortex
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Anyone get a hard crash yet?

bitter dragon
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Not being mean, but they're the geniuses over there. 😆 I have no idea how to fix that.

abstract kite
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hello

clear horizon
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is that a hp i know hps anywhere and there bios ID lol its a dell

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and if it is you will have a shit modded hp apu driver unless you went out of your way to install a newer driver and even then the apu on that thing is not wonderful

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i get about 30fps at 540p on a potato ryzen 7 2700u running gtfo through proton 4.11 (without aco since that causes vertex explosions)

sick reef
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For anyone that wants an easy FPS counter, through steam.

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Dunno if the second part is required, or if it's just part of the overlay function

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In that case, you just need to activate the FPS counter.

raw spire
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heya guys, do ya know how to get better fps?

fleet junco
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Hopefully the game's going to be more optimised by the time we reach open beta. I'm usually locked at 60, with a few occasional exceptions. Like yesterday when I dropped down to 50 for no reason. My GPU was at 80% usage while the CPU was idling at about 40%. I have absolutely no idea what caused the drop in performance.

sacred ginkgo
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my pc hot i ues AMD

fleet junco
fleet canopy
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2nd part is not required

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And high contrast is also a nice color change since it highlights the FPS a somewhat grey color and the text color is a bright green

abstract kite
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why the fug do they recommend 16 gb of ram!!!!!????

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the staff doesnt wanna answer me 😡

oblique gust
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what is the fug ?

plucky relic
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Cuz RAM is life m8.

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@hexed horizon Unpplugging ur HDMI won't blow ur GPU or anything, in fact it should just show the image again by simply plugging it back in

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At worst it could break the HDMI, but that's probably not gonna happen, unless your luck is set to -3

hexed horizon
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Doesnt matter my PC just not working anymore lol

plucky relic
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Well, shit

hexed horizon
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Idunno what happened it just won't boot

fleet canopy
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Cool!

plucky relic
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"Did you try restarting"

hexed horizon
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Unsure if yesterday had anything to do with it

plucky relic
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"Are all the wires plugged in"

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But it just doesn't start?

hexed horizon
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It starts, like the fans start working

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It won't boot tho

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Like no boot screen

plucky relic
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So it just starts and immediately turns off?

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Ah

hexed horizon
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Doesnt turn off

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I push the ON button on my computer case, the fans start working, but it wont boot

plucky relic
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Is it a desktop computer?

hexed horizon
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Yes it is

plucky relic
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So it starts and everything, but no image?

hexed horizon
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Not only image

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Both my keyboard and mouse will not "turn on"

plucky relic
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Well... Shit.

hexed horizon
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No red led on the bottom of the mouse, both of these have RGB settings

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Dont even turn on

plucky relic
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Did you ever check a PC connections internally?

hexed horizon
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Well im no magician

left needle
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um hi, I got my gtfo from a friend, as a steam gift, and I have encountered a connection problem?

plucky relic
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Doubt that's the problem, but if you "pulled the computer" or something, you may have any of those power supply cables badly placed, or something

urban gulch
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Try to join your friend via Steam friends @left needle

hexed horizon
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Forget it you cant really help me with tips but thats fine i dont mind

left needle
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I did 😦

plucky relic
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I mean, it really could be something really simple

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Wouldn't be the first PC I check that ain't working for something as simple as that :b

hexed horizon
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Ive been told to take my PC apart and rebuild it to fix any connection issues

urban gulch
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What is the exact error you are getting tarr?

plucky relic
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Hold up

left needle
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there's another player in the team

urban gulch
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Lmao

plucky relic
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Could you check if your GPUs fans are working as well?

urban gulch
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That's a bug, tarr.

left needle
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but I can't see her and myself

urban gulch
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Can you replicate it?

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Yeah

left needle
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oh ok 😛

urban gulch
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@left needle I did mean the bug.

left needle
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the bug happens everytime

urban gulch
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Hmm, talk with @odd portal about that

left needle
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ok, thank you (wait just realized this is pc build channel)

urban gulch
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np

plucky relic
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Well, rip

cedar talon
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Hello guys When does the alpha test end?

abstract kite
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@cedar talon today

cedar talon
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really?

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Oh I'm so sad 😦

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I want to play this game but it's dawn in Korea time

abstract kite
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@cedar talon u can play it even out of this time

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if a player doesn't close the game and the alpha is over, you can still invite others to your game and play

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so you just ask around for people who can invite you

cedar talon
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Oh really??

abstract kite
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ya

cedar talon
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thank you!!!

abstract kite
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10 euro pls

cedar talon
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a haha you are very humorous zzzzz

abstract kite
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hates humor.

cedar talon
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oops... sorry,,

abstract kite
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and what I hate even more is when someone apologizes for everything

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:DDD

cedar talon
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🙂 you are a very kind person dude 🙂

abstract kite
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south korea 😄

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@cedar talon why do so many guys in korea have pony hair

cedar talon
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uh... like Kim Tae-won of the resurrection??

cedar talon
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oops, sorry dude i misunderstood

abstract kite
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how?

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this is typical korean hair

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this is pony

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or not

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omg its not

cedar talon
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korean men mostly cut their hair with bowl hair

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it looks like this

abstract kite
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yes

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bzut why

fleet canopy
cedar talon
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because this hair style is very neat and tidy

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And Korean students can't cut hair freely but that hair style is allowed

magic flower
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Don't know what I expected from this channel
Not dissapointed.

digital beacon
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Best settings for someone with a good gpu but a horrible cpu??

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What processes are most cpu heavy

late sorrel
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set culling to low

upper grove
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mouse settings changed in game, it's so slow?

fleet canopy
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Increase sensitivity

upper grove
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changed it to 100 and it didn't do anything

fleet canopy
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Hm

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Can you increase the sensitivity on your mouse?

upper grove
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why would it only change for one game?

fleet canopy
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Well it'll increase your mouse sensitivity, so it'll increase sensitivity on everything

upper grove
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could fullscreen have anything to do with it?

fleet canopy
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I dunno

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Try and see

upper grove
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even tabbing out of the game with it running completely changed mouse settings

maiden dew
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🙂

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I need to build a new pc or going to buy it 🙂

empty heart
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sooo the game runs like ABSOLUTE hell and I'm not sure why

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any tips?

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Feels like the game isn't touching my hardware.. GPU maxes out at 55% usage, CPU is 60% usage but the game maxes out at around 70 FPS with constant stutters.

fleet canopy
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Pretty much if you can do 60+ FPS, that's great

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Average FPS for people atm is like, 30-45 FPS

empty heart
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Guess I'll just wait for the game to come out then.. Yes, 60+ is alright but I'm wishing the game actually used my PC's parts.

fleet canopy
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From what I've seen, my GPU is used at 100%, CPU used at like 20% ish. Maybe increasing CPU load will help?

late sorrel
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yeah

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you should put up the culling setting

fleet canopy
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Hitting 150 FPS in menu

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Nice

chrome chasm
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flex

fleet canopy
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Whole room is dark

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Lights are so damn dim

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Anywaaaayyys

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Still 40FPS average even after changing the settings on CPU load, etc Resulting the room to go so damn dark that I need flashlight to even see

empty heart
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that's good though

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the darker the more immersive

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which, so far, this game does a fantastic job at doing

spice hedge
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x

wild crescent
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I'm getting 60fps with the occasional complete screen stutter down to 56 fps; but it locks my screen for half a second. Any advice?

copper zealot
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@wild crescent get a 3900x 1080ti and overclock your ram. No, wait for optimizations

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🙂

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All machines are having that right now, as well as when the creatures come some oddities

wild crescent
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ah ok; thank you

rigid hill
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dude all this time ive been running cpu culling at 'small'and thought the stutering was just the game

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After setting to extreme it actually feels like real 70fps now

fleet canopy
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No matter what I set it to, 40 FPS

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Although it looked smooth at times while still showing 45 FPS on the counter

copper zealot
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Pupper's what is your cpu / gpu reading when the game is running by chance?

fleet canopy
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?

copper zealot
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Like if you have task manager up is it maxing out the cpu or graphics card?

fleet canopy
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GPU maxed, CPU at 20%

copper zealot
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What is the GPU?

fleet canopy
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1060 3GB

copper zealot
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It almost sounds like if culling doesn't help your GPU is the issue

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How many screens?

fleet canopy
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2560x1440p 60Hz, 1600x900 60hz

wide notch
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Does the game run good on AMD GPUs? Like Radeon Vega 56, for example.

fleet canopy
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User ran game good with 580 and 2600 at 60+

rigid hill
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I have a gtx 1070 OC and get 70fps at 1440p. so ur fps with 1060 3gb sounds about right

copper zealot
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have you tried lowering a screen to 1980x1020?

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sorry 1920x1080

wide notch
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Ohh, alright.

fleet canopy
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Kek, ill have to try that next beta testing

rigid hill
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@wide notch not sure, just try it out. I think alpha is still live

wide notch
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I don't have money to buy that GPU now, XD. That's why I'm asking.

rigid hill
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the engine is unity if that helps

wide notch
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Ohh, really? This game uses Unity?

rigid hill
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yeaho

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yeahp*

wide notch
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Wow, amazing.

copper zealot
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pretty sure they were running older gtx models

rigid hill
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something about uni, you can just tell its a unity game by the graphics. but yeah it definately is

copper zealot
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So you should be able to get by with a mid range fx card

rigid hill
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hopefully they sort out optimizations. shouldnt be getting 70fps with 1070 on low settings...

abstract kite
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my specs
Ryzen 5 3400G
Radeon RX 570 Nitro 4GB
16GB G.Skill Ripjaws DDR4-3200
WD Blue M.2 SSD
ASROCK B450M-HDV R2.0

rigid hill
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fps?

abstract kite
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always gets below 60 when it's hectic

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but im not using a counter

rigid hill
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for me fps range is pretty consistent

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im around 70 most times

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@1440p

abstract kite
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1080p60

rigid hill
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whats ur cpu usage like?

fleet canopy
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I can hit 150 FPS just well in menus /s

rigid hill
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yeah same but menu fps doesnt matter XD

fleet canopy
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:(

formal jacinth
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What does culling actually do?

rigid hill
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^^

north bronze
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^ this

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TL-DR: it disables objects outside of your FOV, for optimization purposes

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Since your PC won't render them, you'll gain FPS.

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I assume GTFO's "CPU Culling" option is basically:

- Low: prioritize using GPU time for culling
- High: prioritize using CPU time for culling
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not a gtfo dev but that's as much as I think I understood about that option

formal jacinth
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@north bronze thanks

steel glen
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When you enter the game, says that to play without problems requires 6 RAM and does not allow to enter the game, how to fix it?

magic tangle
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what kind of card does the game need for 2560x1440? 1070 any good for that still?

north bronze
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probs not

chrome chasm
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I'm using a 980Ti with I7-6600K+16Gb RAM for 2560x1440. My FPS hang around 58-59 and sometime goes to 55.

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A 1070 is equivalent on a 980Ti, You should get similar result depending on your ram+CPU. And the CPU Culling option (mine at medium)

magic tangle
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thanks. I've not upgraded from 1920x1200 to that resolution yet, but I may before long, and I'm not getting a new card until the next gen comes out at the very least so I was curious how well or poorly it would run

silent spear
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Guys I need help figuring out if my PSU is bad or not. I have 2 graphics cards lying around. One of them is a costum GTX 980 Ti with around 300-320W power consumption. The other one is an old GTX 470 (that I have for test purposes) with around 200-220W power consuption.

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Both cards run far below their rated clocks since sunday.

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On both cards the memory clocks are the idle memory clocks during load, and on the GTX 470 the core clocks are around 60% of the rated max clocks. Voltage is lower than it should be during full load. On my GTX 980 Ti the core clocks are jumping between idle and around 50-60% of the rated clocks like 135MHz-600MHz-900MHz-135MHz or something like this. The voltage is lower than it should be during full load.

chrome chasm
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GTX 980Ti are very power hungry. what your PSU?

silent spear
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650W Bitfenix Formula

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It worked for around 1,5 years with the 980 Ti

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until the weekend

chrome chasm
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You are already at 80% of power consumption with both card. What left is for every other PC component

silent spear
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I would understand if it would have been wrong since I used it this way... but it was working for 1,5 years without any issues

chrome chasm
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I'm not much of a tech savvy, but maybe it's component natural deterioration over time. giving less then the initial value.

silent spear
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Yeah, probably

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Thats what I was thinking as well, altough it seemed a bit drammatic to me

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Like being able to supply 100 less watts from one day to the other

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Even more than 100, because it seems like the GTX 470 doesnt get enough power either

silent spear
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Probably one phase just died

tight agate
#

hey guys im looking for a new cpu, what should i get i got atm a Intel® Core™ i5 7500 (3.40GHz/6MB)

scarlet saffron
#

i would agree PSU are known to lose efficiency over some time, particularly when there taxed alot and you seem to be taxing it heavily. I would suggest at least a 1k watt PSU for dual cards to give yourself a nice buffer @silent spear

chrome chasm
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A 750 or 850 PSU would work too. And upgrading the GPU since we all know the 980Ti is very power hungry compared to the 1000 / 2000 series.

scarlet saffron
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yah an 850 prob be ok, but that wont leave you much room for future proofing

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a good PSU is worth every penny, a bad one can cause so much more trouble then a few bucks saved is worth

chrome chasm
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My friend had a bad PSU that burned most of his brand new PC part. Took him a while to request a replacement on all his broken PC component

scarlet saffron
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yup.... worst case right there

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and 99% of warranties wont cover that

chrome chasm
#

Luckily it did for him.

scarlet saffron
#

phew!

silent spear
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It looks like the GTX 470 can reach its clocks now because the BIOS recognized it as a PCIE gen 1 card.... and it kept it back so hard

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And I changed the slot to gen 3 (the card is 2.0 tho)

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Maybe I should try it with the 980 Ti as well, then

scarlet saffron
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bottom line your PSU is dying/dead prob already down 1 phase witch means your overworking it hard now, it will die prob sooner then later, thats not to mention all the potential damage it would cause to your other parts, replace it ASAP

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not to sound bossy, but if your hardware could thank you it would 😛

silent spear
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I will replace it to a 750W or 850W quality PSU then 🙂 I have to wait until the weekend tho

scarlet saffron
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try not to tax it in the mean time, and hope for the best!

silent spear
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Okay! I have to use my computer till then, but running it without heavy load shouldnt cause too much problems

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Also, I only had 1 GPU in the system at any time

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not both

scarlet saffron
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your prob under 250 watts with a non gpu intensive program

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maybe even dc one of the cards

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i assume the secondary is for displays like mine

silent spear
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Nah

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I just bought it used for 20 euros

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Just to test whats bad

scarlet saffron
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ahh

silent spear
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But I am still not sure if 980 Ti is alright

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I am afraid of overheated VRMs

scarlet saffron
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that really comes down to board manufacturer's

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the 980 is a solid card at up to 80c easy thoe

silent spear
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Its a gigabyte G1... but I replaced the cooler

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To an aftermarket arctic accelero

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xtreme 3

scarlet saffron
#

it does appear to have some form of heatsync/grill

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on the VRM

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prob nothing to worry about there

silent spear
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And the heatsinks fell of the VRMs in a few days after replacing it.

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replacing the cooler i mean

scarlet saffron
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ohhh, well.....

silent spear
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But... a fan blow air directly on them

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No temp sensors tho

scarlet saffron
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yah a fan is not nearly as good as a decent sync

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the fan works because its drawking heat off an extended surface are (the sync), on raw chips its not nearly as effective

silent spear
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yes

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thats true

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The problem was, that I couldnt really get my heatsinks to get stuck on the VRMs

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the vrms were too small

scarlet saffron
#

yah its an older board, prob have a hard time finding parts for it

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might look into swapping that out too, might be cheaper then trying to repair it

silent spear
#

The aftermarket cooler I have on it goes up on pretty much any recent board

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No specific components for any boards

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Damn, I was so unlucky

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The only problem with swapping it out, is that if I buy a GPU I want more power from it than the one I had before... And currently I dont have money for high end cards

scarlet saffron
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eh, sounds like it had a good run, could have just caught fire and ruined everything 😛

silent spear
#

Btw, do you think that PSU or that VRM is the problem for the 980Ti frequencies?

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I am not sure if theres any damage to any of those

scarlet saffron
#

well if your power is not 100% stable then you will get all sorts of weird things going on

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hard to say without putting in a new one first, but im sure having no sync is not helping

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heat is a major favor in freq stability

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factor^

silent spear
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Altough the VRMs worked fine for two months or so

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Without heatsink

scarlet saffron
#

sounds PSU bound to me, the fact thats its happening on all slots kinda nails it down

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one could just be the board, or the slot, but both is very likely the PUS

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i wouldn't be surprised is you saw some cpu throttling too

silent spear
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The GTX 470 appears to be working now tho, even on high load. I am getting the freqeuncies, the slot was set to pcie gen 1 by the bios when I put the card in, switching it fixed that issue

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There is no CPU throttling

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Ryzen 5 1600 @3,8GHz

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And the heat is fine

scarlet saffron
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it may not be turning on the cap till you go under full load

silent spear
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temps around 40-45 idle, 60-70 full load

scarlet saffron
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you have to peak it out.. but that could be risky

silent spear
#

celsius

scarlet saffron
#

waits for dinnie to vanish from chat

silent spear
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lol

scarlet saffron
#

i personally always go with a Corsair PSU, great warrenty and ive never had to use it

silent spear
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I was thinking to pick up a corsair one

chrome chasm
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Mine a Corsair RM850i Gold. Can't go wrong with corsair PSU imo

silent spear
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The price tho...

scarlet saffron
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you get what you pay for, and a PSU is not something you want to go cheap on imo

chrome chasm
#

If there one component I rather pay a bit more. it's the PSU so it don't fry my other very expensive PC part

scarlet saffron
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get a sexy modular with cable managment o.0

silent spear
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What about a TX750M? Its has a 80+ gold rating too

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750W is enough for my imo

scarlet saffron
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yes its enough, but your gonna be pushing it at prob 75-80% of capacity under load

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i just like a good margin, keeps the PSU cool and running easy

silent spear
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Alright

scarlet saffron
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depending on your case fit it might be inportant too, like if the PSU is under the GPU's

silent spear
#

The psu is under the gpu, by around 10 cm

scarlet saffron
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so its a heat source being applied to your GPU

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witch is not a great thing

silent spear
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Then I should opt for 850W?

scarlet saffron
#

a PSU that runs cooler under the same load or has an active cooling is prob better

silent spear
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Okay

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I will get a new PSU until the weekend and see if it works. I hope the GPU didnt got damaged much

scarlet saffron
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yah just run a benchmark after see how it compares with others

vivid sandal
#

just a question as my pc just sort of borked up and am looking for advice on how to find out why and maybe update

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my pc sort of powered down and wouldnt turn back on for a bit, took off the side plate and noticed my cpu cooling fan is weak already planning on replacing

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but i wanted to update my cpu from an AMD FC 6 core up to a AMD FX 8-Core FX-8350

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or is there something better to go with

fiery nacelle
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would it be worth it upgrading?

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that would depend on budget and desire

vivid sandal
#

is about 5 ish years old but dont have the funds to fully replace yet

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i use it as a gaming/streaming rig and general office computer

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though i dont have the funds for it know would love to keep this one as a general office pc and have a new one that can do streaming/gaming

fiery nacelle
#

what's the full specifications?

vivid sandal
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760GM-P23 motherboard
AMD FC 6 core 3.5 GHz
16GB ram
ev3a 600w power

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oh and NVIDIA GeForce GTX750 GPU

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already know it needs updates cause for some reason anytime i run re4 it bogs down the cpu so hard

bronze cloak
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I mean the reason is probably that FX was awful

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Don’t let the clocks fool you, the number of things it could do with one clock was terrible.

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Best thing to do right now is just upgrade to Ryzen

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And get a new GPU later down the line

vivid sandal
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the only reason was going with the AMD FX 8-Core FX-8350 is cause it was recommended from a friend

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sort of recommended it cause it would be compatible with the motherboard and GPU

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as you say ryzen any particular?

fiery nacelle
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if you don't intend to buy a new GPU...

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there is no point to upgrade from the FX 6-series to an FX 8-series

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The FX 6-series would run the GTX 750 just fine

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In your case, you'll find most recent games to be bogged down by the GTX 750 too

vivid sandal
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well when i try playing newer ish games clock says my cpu is running at near full capacity

fiery nacelle
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clock?

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you mean the task manager right?

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the CPU % utilization?

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hmmm, could the GPU % utilization also be full capacity?

vivid sandal
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ye but it runs though my keyboard display and manual calls it a clock assume it just says that cause it also can display that

fiery nacelle
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a Logitech keyboard?

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what number and unit of measure does it exactly display?

vivid sandal
#

yes

fiery nacelle
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in terms of say 100%

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or does it say 3.5 GHz

vivid sandal
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it displays in %

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games will go to like 80 or so and sometimes peak

fiery nacelle
#

the title is CPU utilization right?

vivid sandal
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just says cpu gives a % bar and ram %bar

fiery nacelle
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hmmm, not sure how accurate that would be though

vivid sandal
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true

fiery nacelle
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ah wait, its Logitech Arx control

vivid sandal
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g510s

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wait, im not familiar with that

fiery nacelle
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should be accurate

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it's just that the CPU% may fluctuate

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so it can hit 100% at times, but may not always stay there?

vivid sandal
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well at least thats sort of good

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ye

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but its always pretty high

fiery nacelle
#

in the region of 80% to 100%

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when playing say AAA games like Anthem, Insurgency Sandstorm, Gears 5, etc?

vivid sandal
#

ye but older games like re 7 witcher 3 deadspace 1 and 2
and i had to basicly stop playing darksouls cause it couldnt handle the game

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tried playing sekrio but had so many frame drops that i couldnt see anything

fiery nacelle
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what resolutions and settings do you play these games at?

vivid sandal
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720 at most but would go lower on high movement sections with mid settings or just turning off the options if it wasnt needed to run

fiery nacelle
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normally one would say at such low graphics demand, that would then be a CPU bottleneck scenario, but a GTX 750 is so weak, am not sure in your case though

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sudden freezes and frame drops more likely is due to CPU, or even low RAM

vivid sandal
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never seem to have a problem with ram as its 16gb

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and run 2 monitors

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also when i got it a friend who actually knows this stuff did a thing that stops my from topping out at 13 as they explained it

fiery nacelle
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true, at 16GB RAM it should be enough

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well, one way to decrease CPU load is to unload all un-necessary activity from the CPU when playing games

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not going to be possible if you like streaming or doing something else simultaneously

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e.g. quitting all other game launchers but the one you need, close wallpaper engine, close browser(s), bittorent client, CCLeaner & other utilities monitoring, etc

vivid sandal
#

would it just be cheaper to go for a full new rig or part it out

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cause im honnestly hoping to only spend at most 300- 400

fiery nacelle
#

it's a tough call in your case

manic lake
#

CPU - 9700K OC 5.0Ghz
MB - ASUS ROG STRIX Z390 F Gaming
RAM - Patriot 32Gb OC 4000Mhz 19 21 21 41
SSD - Samsung 970 PRO 512Gb
SSD - Samsung 860 PRO 2Tb
Videocard - Palit RTX 2080 Ti GamingPro OC
Power - Sea Sonic Electronics PRIME Platinum 850W
Case - Cooler Master H500M
Cooler - Alphacool Eisbaer Extreme Liquid 280 Black Edition

Is it enough for Ultra 2k gaming at GTFO and RDR2?

north bronze
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Don't know if you're trolling or not but uh

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yes

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Should be enough for just about all games

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Dunno what Ultra 2K is but it would probably run 4K 60FPS fine

ruby jacinth
#

Ive also noticed 30-60 fps with max 60% GPU usage
Cpu max 25%

2070s
3900x

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3440x1440 resolution
16gb

delicate steppe
#

i have just 8GB RAM with 1060 gtx 6 gm in laptop and it was enough to play in 1080p/30 fps and record my game at 720p/60 fps

late sorrel
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you gotta like

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up that cpu culling workload

ruby jacinth
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I set to extreme and it lags every few seconds.

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16gb btw

north bronze
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cpu culling should be set to low if your GPU's good

elfin mulch
#

when you find out yoru PC is below minspec
oof

wheat magnet
#

Ey, even below that you can run the game properly with low settings. I'm below min specs I think and I have a very stable 30 FPS that is still very much playable.

nova berry
#

I'm hearing people getting performance issues on 2080Ti's and 9900K's. I run an RTX 2070/4790K and was able to record it at 1080p60 with a pretty stable 100fps. Not ALWAYS constant, but pretty consistent nonetheless.

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My brother also uses a GTX 1080/9900K and it ran fine. The performance seems to be a case by case type of problem

jovial vector
#

I run a Dual GTX 970 and an i5-6600K and got little to no stutter.

abstract kite
#

Motha

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Board

abstract kite
#

I’m just happy GTFO isn’t a CPU hog unlike almost every Ubisoft game.

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6600k running happy and healthy

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unlike the motherboard it’s on

static echo
#

im quite happy that my build can play this game

abstract kite
#

what’re you running? @static echo

static echo
#

lower than you guys that for sure

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especialy the Mobo brain

abstract kite
#

Wdym mobo brain

static echo
#

processor

abstract kite
#

Thats the chipset iirc

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chipset is brain

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wait

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it’s the heart

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nvm

urban gulch
#

._.

static echo
#

lol

abstract kite
#

My chipset heatspreader fucked me over.

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Doesn’t adequately draw heat off anymore

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My PC fails POST at least twice on boot because of the initial power surge

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So guess who has to buy new shit

static echo
#

consider changing it

abstract kite
#

Don’t buy lower end MSI boards

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Just

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don’t

static echo
#

i use generic mobo

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im surprise it run to be honest even thou it not 60 fps probably gonna tweak the setting when the game open again

abstract kite
#

Shadows take a lot of ‘umph’

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Lowering shadow detail can help increase FPS significantly.

static echo
#

i forgot to do that

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i was get excited to play forget tweak the setting

abstract kite
#

I didn’t change my FOV the first couple games lol

static echo
#

well not is that bad i can still play the game

abstract kite
#

Finally changed it to 90 on Thursday

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Tried 120 but didn’t feel like playing zombie Quake LOL

static echo
#

lol

cobalt frigate
#

Ryzen 5 2600x
GTX 1070 8gb
16gb RAM
Work fine in me in high , almost 80 FPS and IT moves between 59 and 70

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On*

delicate steppe
#

from what i see i realy need upgrade my ram from 8 to 16

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most posts with 16gb are 50+ fps

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concluding from posts also any cpu above i5 6k and any gpu higher than gtx 1050 are good

north bronze
#

8gb is becoming the bare minimum for small tasks like document writing, presentations, browsing etc

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16gb is pretty good for gaming and multitasking

urban gulch
#

^

abstract kite
#

Can i run the game with 8 gigs of ram/1030 graphics card?

late sorrel
#

yee

north bronze
#

yeehaw

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received my new components

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backing up data on this computer before i put a new mobo, cpu and 1tb m.2 ssd in

abstract kite
#

why u drink coffee

#

coffee good

fiery nacelle
urban gulch
#

I’d buy.

fiery nacelle
#

Wish they had a version with slight underclock / lower TBP target at 180 watts, 2.5 slot, with dual 95 / 100 mm fans

fleet canopy
#

Lmao how good is that GPU

fiery nacelle
#

not sure about quality of cards made by Yeston though

fleet canopy
#

Kek guess we’ll have to see

carmine gyro
#

im thinking of upgrading to grpahics to a RX 580 Armor Mk2. Has anyone dealt with that or have any reviews on it?

north bronze
#

finally

formal jacinth
#

@carmine gyro superb card, plain and simple

north bronze
#

also near instant intellisense

#

💕

fiery nacelle
#

oh I thought you were getting a 3900x

north bronze
#

nah

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budget

#

also 3900x out of stock as always

gray moat
#

Roll on Xmas = Sapphire Radeon 5700xt Nitro+ pure 😍😍

tight agate
#

hey guys im looking for a new cpu, what should i get i got atm a Intel Core i5 7500

gray moat
#

I5 9600k is an underrated cpu. Beats any i7 Upto the 7700k. Good overclock cpu and has been recorded to run 5ghz pretty stable

north bronze
#

Depends on your use

gray moat
#

Good video ^^^

north bronze
#

i just went amd with the 3700x and im defo not going back to intel mmLul

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feels so good

gray moat
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That's my next cpu ^^^

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@tight agate I would look at a new mobo as well. I run my 9600k on a z390

tight agate
#

i may need to mention iv got a dual rtx 2080

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and may be getting botlenecked

north bronze
#

get a ryzen 3950X mmLul

#

no more bottleneck

tight agate
#

i have intel 😭

north bronze
#

get a new mobo as well then mmLul

arctic copper
tight agate
sick reef
#

Don, I see you're a man of putting things where they don't belong thangery

tight agate
#

uff i never ment to send jesus

#

hahahahahaa

#

labcat what specs

jovial vector
#

A brick for a GPU and a graham cracker for a processor.

sick reef
#

7940X, and a 1080 Ti.

jovial vector
#

I was close

sick reef
#

32GB ram, PCIe SSD, Two M.2 SSD, almost a functional HDD bridge,

arctic copper
#

that's hot, Labcat

jovial vector
#

Lol I read 328GB of ram. My brain said "what the fa-doodle"

sick reef
#

Sitting in a EVGA X299 Dark.

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It's a neat build.

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Took ages to make work.

jovial vector
#

Show us what underneath. Lift the skirt.

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I wanna see all that jammed in there.

#

No puns intended.

sick reef
arctic copper
#

t h a t ' s h o t

jovial vector
#

Jesus Christ that ketchup and mustard. You laughed in the face of God when you built this didn't you?

sick reef
#

I had to put electrical tape on a row of copper pushers that keeps the backplate pushed in place, because it was dangerously close to the MB. If so be that computer god wished me death, he would have smited me then and there at first boot.

#

I'm unsure if this is before or after I fixed the cables.

jovial vector
#

Maintenance must be a pain

sick reef
#

Yes, absolutely!

arctic copper
#

What's maintenance? LULW

sick reef
#

Mostly because removing the water cooling must be done in one piece.

arctic copper
#

How long does it take?

sick reef
#

Around 40 minutes to remove the CPU.

jovial vector
#

How often do you flush the system?

sick reef
#

I will aim around every other or year or so.

#

Regarding the water cooling.

jovial vector
#

What exactly is being watercooled. I see the GPU but CPU as well or na. I can't imagine a decent heatsink fitting in there.

#

Especially not a Noctua cooler.

sick reef
#

Air won't really fit, at all. Clearance isn't great.

arctic copper
#

What are we talking about in t e m p s?

sick reef
#

GPU has a AIO loop, CPU has a custom loop.

jovial vector
#

I imagine pull from the front and push out back is your fan setup.

sick reef
#

No, pull from side and back, push from the front.

#

Actually works great, from what I have noticed.

jovial vector
#

Whats your standard temps for your hardware at full load though?

sick reef
#

Full load, from what I noticed from DosBox trying to max all 14 cores, 28 threads, was around 64 degrees.

jovial vector
#

That's not bad at all.

sick reef
#

It runs at 30/20 Idle, CPU/GPU.

jovial vector
#

Well done sir. A masterpiece sleeper you have here.

arctic copper
#

Dem temps are better than mine.

sick reef
#

Well, yeah, there's the thing with the fans.

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36mm delta's.

#

Not to mention that the custom loop uses a 41mm thick radiator.

#

Custom made, even.

arctic copper
jovial vector
#

41mm thick???? Jesus

sick reef
#

So yeah, it can get loud as an absolute monster, but it's acceptably loud when not on heavy load.

jovial vector
#

How much water goes into your system? 2 gallons?

sick reef
#

Yeah, I wanted to get a 50mm, but there wasn't room.

#

If one gallon is roughly one rainboot, then I don't know, around 500-700mL, I forgot how much I put in.

#

Half a rainboot.

#

I'm just happy it completely aired itself as soon as I ran the pump.

jovial vector
#

All I have is a closed loop AIO on my CPU. Runs the same temps as you though.

#

Lost more room for air in the case though

#

😅

arctic copper
#

That shows airflow is just a myth PirateSimon

jovial vector
#

Try only pushing air and not pulling. I did it as an experiment on my rig and couldn't get past boot.

#

POST*

sick reef
#

Well, I brute forced mine practically. And also, apart from being an 7940X, I run it at 4.8GHz, and it hit 64 degrees because it it was also single core boosting at the same time.

#

So it is not all equal, to put it lightly.

#

Airflow is important to a point, and efficiency and airflow is always important.

#

That's 4.8GHz all cores.

#

Just what I need to run HOMM3 perfectly fine.

abstract kite
#

there is not really people who build new pc just for this simple game or??

mystic pasture
#

A few people probably did @abstract kite

abstract kite
#

hm okey?

#

is the game so hungry?

mystic pasture
#

parts of it are, I know my PC struggled with some areas and I've got a fairly decent mid range setup

#

Unity doesn't have the best pipeline, but it's certainly not the worst. They seem to know what they're doing in terms of optimization too so I would expect it to improve a bit by final release

abstract kite
#

i wont pay money for that

#

jerky like hell

#

aand unity

mystic pasture
#

What's wrong with Unity?

#

It's a perfectly reasonable engine to use

#

And it's really not that bad in terms of optimization, the only time I had issues were when a horde was spawning personally

#

if your computer is running jerky, I would take a look at what your hardware is before assuming it's all the games fault

abstract kite
#

my hw is .. perfect

#

@mystic pasture

mystic pasture
#

well

#

sounds like it must be something else then

#

game just isn't that choppy

abstract kite
#

gtx 970 and so you know

#

i5 4460

#

perfectionism

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top hardware

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cant have more for buck

mystic pasture
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eh

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that's alright

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I wouldn't say perfect

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good mid tier though

abstract kite
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but enough for this simple game

mystic pasture
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nah I wouldn't argue that

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They're using some pretty fancy shaders

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your GPU is likely struggling with them

abstract kite
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shaders?

mystic pasture
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yeah

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the bits of video games that make things look nice

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not the objects themselves, but how those objects are seen if that makes sense

abstract kite
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i know basic game dev

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but i never understood shaders

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except that hey can make stuff look cartoony or

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or give them more fresnel

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but thats it or?

mystic pasture
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I mean shaders can be used to do those things yes

abstract kite
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you cant really change the shader to make it look photorealisticer?

mystic pasture
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but that's not all they can do

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you absolutely can

abstract kite
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you mean like explosion shader?

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but even then.. shader should be the least part which takes on the hardware

mystic pasture
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an explosion can be done via a shader, but it doesn't have to be, usually it'd be a hybrid of multiple tools, including shaders

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lots of moving objects/Physics simulation/shaders are generally going to make up most of what the GPU is trying to work through

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I mean there's lots of opportunities for bottlenecks, I just generally assume graphics are going to be the first place you'd see them. Especially since most of the time there's not much going on, except for when the horde comes, then the CPU could be bottleknecked while trying to calculate what each monster should be doing, but it could still be the GPU bottleneck trying to render all those moving monsters

abstract kite
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for me it sounds like that doesnt take any cpu at all

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"what the creatures will do"

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that game is not some high quality a.i. lol

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simple path finding etc

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that takes no computing at all if you ask me

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are you telling me there code is more evolved that the newest far cry?

mystic pasture
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Keep in mind neither of us know the implementation details

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I'm speaking bonly to where likely causes of jitter are coming in

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"simple pathfinding" is not that simple either

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Are you a developer that's worked on games before?

abstract kite
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no but when you make 100 guys path finding in UE4 it runs smooth as hell

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and their own code doesnt make my system jitter every 12 seconds

mystic pasture
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so in an engine that this game isn't based on, it works in an isolated test that doesn't account for all the other variables at play?

abstract kite
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no idea 😄

mystic pasture
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exactly lol

abstract kite
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but it is what i said

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what a monster does is no the reason

mystic pasture
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and you can prove that how?

abstract kite
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look at other games...

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gtfo is nothing special

mystic pasture
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GTFO is it's own project with it's own developers

abstract kite
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its your typical left 4 dead

mystic pasture
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you literally cannot compare it to any other game

abstract kite
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i do tho

mystic pasture
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is the code base the same as other projects yes or no?

abstract kite
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ffs compare it to other games with same machanics

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this is the only game with shitty performance for me

mystic pasture
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yeah you can't do that

abstract kite
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so its just a bug

mystic pasture
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code bases are NOT the same

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so you can't say for sure what it is

abstract kite
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who cares about bases

mystic pasture
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literally everybody lmao

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it's the driving part of the entire game

abstract kite
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2 stubborn guys

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haha

mystic pasture
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it is the reason bugs exist

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or don't exist

abstract kite
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omg no

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BUGS EXIST BECAUSE HUMANS MAKE THE CODE

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NOTHING ELSE

mystic pasture
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and the reason why you can't say well it can't be A becuase in other game, A is not the issue

abstract kite
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@void perch admin do you wanna argue with us?

mystic pasture
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if you look at something like Call of Duty, or even Left for Dead

abstract kite
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and what do you fix right now?

mystic pasture
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those kinds of games share code with previous revisions of the same title

abstract kite
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ehm

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ya?

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its improved yes

mystic pasture
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in those situations, you can absolutely draw some comparisons about where bugs went or what causes what

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you have none of that with GTFO so it's all just speculation

abstract kite
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dont understand

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neither evolve nor l4d1 was jerky

mystic pasture
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having worked on games in Unity myself, I've seen some things that could cause issues, using educated guesses and my own experience, you're just pointing at random stuff that holds no bearing

abstract kite
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yeah and probably i am right because i am not that educated into this topic.

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because i see thigns differently

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:smart:

mystic pasture
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I have no clue how educated you are, nor do I really care tbh

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I'm just trying to show you some things but you're fighting with me so I'm gonna stop, hopefully the issues you experienced are gone by EA or full release, sorry I couldn't help more

fleet canopy
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Seems people prefer getting a 3700X over a 3600 GWmythicalThonkCool

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Maybe I’ll check on it and consider

mystic pasture
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I wish I waited for 3### but I ended up with a 2600X

fleet canopy
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2600X isn’t so bad at least

mystic pasture
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not at all

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so happy I switched from Intel

abstract kite
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but singlecore

fleet canopy
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But I do know that apparently 3600 beat the 2700 and below?

mystic pasture
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I have a more multi core oriented workload for my home PC, AMD made more sense for my last upgrade

fleet canopy
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I have 7700K for best single thread perf

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Fucking 350$ or something like that but I guess it was on sale

mystic pasture
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Pretty sure it did

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lmao

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I paid $185 for mine 😄

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the other nice reason to go AMD 😛

fleet canopy
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Kek

mystic pasture
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Plus, who knows, maybe one day games will actually be able to saturate a multicore chip

fleet canopy
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Well is there anything special about the 3700X that makes it stand out above the 3600?

mystic pasture
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Generally I don't think the X varient makes much sense for anyone but the people at the top end

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whatever chip you're gonna buy, drop the x and get that one

fleet canopy
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Dunno if they have a 3700 lmao

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I’m planning on getting 3600/5700XT

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Also it seems CPUs are being released almost constantly lmao

abstract kite
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the 700x was always superior to 600

fleet canopy
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Of course it is lmao

abstract kite
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by huge amount

fleet canopy
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But like what is it good with in comparison

abstract kite
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do you wanna be poor and weak? 😦

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take 2600

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you wanna be superior?

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you know how to do that

fleet canopy
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Hah

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I’ll just check the perf comparison then

abstract kite
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@fleet canopy i dont think you should even be allowed to pick the parts by your own...

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if you want a good system

fleet canopy
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lol okay

abstract kite
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ive heard its very bad to make your own

mystic pasture
fleet canopy
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I’ve had the build planned and changed over two months or something idk lmao

abstract kite
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doesnt make it better

fleet canopy
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And I’ve constantly asked for help and changed it over time lmao

late sorrel
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lmao

fleet canopy
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Dummy lmao

abstract kite
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then youd get always a different opinion

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no consistency

late sorrel
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yeah I wouldn’t worry evangelion

abstract kite
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thats like playing gtfo with 25 leaders

fleet canopy
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I would never actually get a build without asking for help lol

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I only take from what people say and check by what they recommend with price and perf

abstract kite
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again a big erro?

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listen only to smart people who can give full systems

fleet canopy
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How is it a big error?

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Explain to me how literally a huge amount of people did just what I did

abstract kite
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just price and perf is not enough isnt it?

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u need full superb consultant

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not 234234 guys who tell you what to do

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o-o

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that sounsd sooo funny

fleet canopy
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You’re saying I should learn how to build a pc

abstract kite
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no.

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wtf

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forget it

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its ok

fleet canopy
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You are literally saying I should not do what I do lmao

abstract kite
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because i dont know it different

fleet canopy
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I don’t see how it’s bad taking advice and recommendations from people

abstract kite
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because its multiple people

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thats why

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no consistency

late sorrel
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I’ve read up a little bit

fleet canopy
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It’s simply asking for help, and picking out what seems good with what they say about it, by checking the price and specs of the parts, so you can have a list of parts that are good to the budget and exceeds your expectations on what it’s performance should be

late sorrel
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and like, 3600 would probably be better than the 3700x

abstract kite
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see. now you choose yourself of possible "good" candidats

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i dont think that is smart

fleet canopy
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2 cores plus 4 threads more and only 0.2 GHz isn’t smart either for about 100$ more

jovial vector
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Did someone hurt you @abstract kite? Why are you like this? You just been trolling the Discord server everytime I see you.

fleet canopy
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If it’s for streaming, it’s good

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If it’s for gaming, 3600

abstract kite
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nobody hurt me and i m not trolling

late sorrel
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You’re not gunna get any extra out of the 3700x than you’d get out of the 3600

mystic pasture
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you are absolutely trolling lmao

fleet canopy
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You’re only getting a little more performance which wouldn’t affect so much lol

late sorrel
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Literally no difference gameplay wise and iirc you don’t stream/do heavy cpu tasks mayo

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so yeah, go 3600

abstract kite
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i am not trolling

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-.-

late sorrel
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If not the 3600, id get the 3600X

fleet canopy
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Any difference to it? Seems to be 0.2GHz more from what I remember

late sorrel
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3% more FPS and stuff over the top

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You’re getting an non-stock CPU cooler right?

fleet canopy
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Only a little bought the 3600X

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And yeah, a dark rock 4

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Not the pro version, seemed too much at the end

mystic pasture
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nice lookin cooler there

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I had a Hyper Cooler 212 Evo that just fit literally any cpu you threw at it, until I switched to AMD

fleet canopy
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Yeah I’m going with a black/red aesthetic for my build

mystic pasture
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best $20 I ever spent

abstract kite
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see 3700x has superb cooler

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without spending 40 euro for cooler

fleet canopy
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Maybe, but having a non-stock is better than staying with a stock if I ever were to overclock it

abstract kite
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you can overclock 3700x?

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no idea XD

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im just..... dumbing around

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<-< i am stupid ok

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here you have it @mystic pasture

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but i am not trolling i swear

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im just bala bala, like a duck who circles around a fontain

fleet canopy
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Okay Mr Duck-Who-Circles-Around-A-Fountain

abstract kite
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mr fontain

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french president or?

fleet canopy
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I’m your favorite person, Dumb American

abstract kite
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omg he thinks i am americano

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ok this is off topic now.

fleet canopy
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Hm, it seems he did not process my message correctly GWchinaSakuraThinking

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I was referring Dumb American as myself

dusty pumice
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When is the last time he did process something correctly?

abstract kite
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@fleet canopy then you have to learn where to place comma

fleet canopy
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I’m your favorite person dumb American

abstract kite
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I’m your favorite person, a Dumb American

fleet canopy
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I’m your host, Y2K!

abstract kite
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-> a <-

late sorrel
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Umm, pretty sure comma went in the right place.

abstract kite
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but a was missing

fleet canopy
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I’m your host Y2K!