#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk
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I guess someone's done it
I'm running a 1920x lol
wait why no cooler 3700x
They changed the all powerful ram
that’s crazy
Well I did ask for a black/red aesthetics help
Can't I just paint the RAM black/red...?
Only 70$ less than my list
tie dye them? lol
I mean, pretty much lol
But ehh
Alr, I'll change my list up a bit
Only one black/red X570 board
4 ram slots, supports 128 GB, 170$
RGB is said to be shit lol
Well time to switch to black
Which doesn't have a single board under 200$ for X570
Apparently I heard a MAX B450 can support the Ryzen 3000 series?
Yeah, the MAX boards have their BIOS chip ready out of box
Also, this power supply is next gen and cheaper https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RYH8TW/evga-g5-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-220-g5-0750-x1
I mean you're literally never gonna see it once it's inside the case
The cooler is pretty overkill for a 3600 but it doesn't hurt anything of course
Well
212?
Cooler Master Hyper 212
It apparently said it has some 'issue' with placing on X570 boards?
Any 212 variant would be good, the mounting thing shouldn't be an issue as Cooler Master ships it with new mounting hardware. If you want the same aesthetic you can get one of the cheaper be quiet! coolers
Maybe I'll just go black for cooler
None of the black/red seems good lol
Dark Rock 4 instead of Pro?
That would be great, sure
At $200 I would recommend getting a monitor with a VA panel, just has better color than a TN
Any of the MSI ones should be good, unless you don't want a curved monitor
Curved, ehh
How different would curved be?
Cheapest I could find with black or black/red color
Not gonna include the B450 lol
Aside from the Asrock Pro4 pretty much all the X570 boards are good, just depends on the features you need. that one would be just fine.
speedy bois
The whole AMD optimized thing is basically just for advertising, as long as it's from a well known manufacturer they should perform the same as any other memory kits at the same spec
Hm
Of course there's nothing wrong with the Neo, they're still great memory kits
Depends on the workload, the difference can definitely be noticeable. If you have the money to spare you can go with a 3600 kit
Supposedly heard 3600Mhz needed for Ryzen 3000 series, might be uhh
3200 and 3600 doesn't seem much difference in pricing lol
3600 isn't needed, it's really just the "sweet spot" where you can get the best balance of speed and timings without too much hassle
Seeing too much G.Skill trident Z kits, so I'll just get one lmao
Now for case
How's this now?
Managed around 1600$, some haven't been able to follow the black/red but I don't mind too much
You can't fit 3 140mm fans in there, one of them has to be a 120mm. Other than that, it looks great!
Alrighty
Just never knew the sizing for fans, but only saw 140mm
Okay neat
Found same exact fan at 120mm
Okay coolio it's done
Question
If you are doing around $500 why don't you lookup a 1080ti
Pretty sure it has better performance than the nvidia 5700
Unless you are doing the infinity fabric but that will be more towards workstation
@dense wasp sorry for the late reply but i tried in both exclusive fullscreen and windowed fullscreen and there were very minimal fps changes as for cpu culling im unsure on what it does.
Just play around with it and see if anything improves. It decreases load on the GPU onto the CPU.
ive finished my fiest expedition
and game seems choppy alot
well theres no drivers and its alpha
@fair gull Have you tried restarting the game? There seems to be some kind of bug where the game starts stuttering, but a restart should fix it.
@main river i think its more drivers bound ,couldnt get any stable frame rate but game was pretty playable tho ,most of times around 90 FPS ,in horde part fps dropped to 40 (almost died there)
Ah, okay. Probably just some normal stability issues then, as you said.
it was playable ,theres no drivers ,so FPS drops are totaly understable ,looking foward to buy game in future ,its what i expected it to be ,closed scary horror experiance ,where cooperation between players is essencial ,animations of monsters seemed a bit choppy and laggy (synchronizaction issues same as PayDay 2 had for a long time)
i think its here bounded to host himself ,game uses P2P connection?
@fair gull yes
@copper zealot is it? A 2070 S has to be better than a 1080 Ti, plus I don’t think 1080 Ti is at 500$
I’ve only seen them in 700-1000$
But there once was a sale on a Zotac 1080 Ti for 440$-
go to C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\LocalLow\10 Chambers Collective\GTFO and delete GTFO_Settings.txt
do you know what is the minimal GPU to run the game?
Just came to say, an I5 8600K and an RX 580 can easily run the game at around 80 FPS while streaming 1080P, 60 FPS with low latency. As for what it is rn, the game runs fantastic Imo.
That's Microsoft's finest optimization in just an image lmao
@wheat magnet I found a game you can actually play
@fleet canopy unless you are doing Ray tracing the 1080ti is equi of 2080 and you can get them used with warranty still, that is what i did with mine
Hm
I'll check some videos later on for compared power
tbh I went for 5700XT for price to perf, and it seems like a great GPU for me tbh
imagine being able to play at 90 fps
i'd rather play at a "stable" 40 on high settings than a "stable" 60+ on low
Have you turned off Vsync? @fleet canopy
Believe I have done so
I'll check
Not disabled, yeet
It's been disabled, anything else?
What kinda PCs u guys got I can run almost any game @ maxed 144-250
Disabling Vsync should do it
7700K @dense lion20GHz and 1060 3GB :)
Oh fuck
Ehh
No one's seen him, dead account
Still seeing 30-45 FPS
Okay u def have vsync on turn it off
570 w/amd cpu can run the game 60+ FPS
Ik u should definitely get more frames then that with a 1060
What game are u doing this on gtfo? @fleet canopy
?
How's FPS for you?
Steady 60+
Single room fights non choppy
multi rooms turn into slight choppyness
I got a gtx 770 and I still get 60fps solid on low-med. Except the times when I get only max 10 during the whole "match"
Time to upgrade
I got a Threadripper 1920x with a 2080ti & 32gb of ram
Bet you're getting 45 FPS-
hey all, my laptop is pretty bad, and im trying to lower everything so its playable. i have no idea what "cpu culling workload" is and am not sure whether to set it to "small" or "extreme". dont want to crash my computer on accident :)
basically the higher you set it, the more work is loaded onto the CPU instead of the GPU
Game's doing 80 stable FPS while stream recording at 1080P, 60 FPS, 12500 Rate. Medium settings with Vsync enabled.
I believe it could run the game up to 120 easily without any recording
I5-8600K, RX 580, 16 RAM (1 Card, 2333)
lmao
Actually, just ended a successful expedition with a friendo. The stream may look a bit like shit, but that's because I'm literally the worst setting up OBS for streams
So afaIk, the game ain't asking too much on the CPU, GPU seems to be playing the exact same role on minimum and maximum settings
Had a friend with some issues, and deactivating Vsync drastically helped him apparently.
is lag between mouse movement a computer problem or a quality problem?
or something else?
@zealous crypt perhaps vsync
try turning it on/off and see if it does a difference
it can in some cases introduce input lag
k, ill try and figure out how to do that
any idea where to find it? i dont have nvidia
did you click something?
i accidnetly pulled my computer away while the HDMi was plugged in
that was a while ago
well i hope my gpu didnt go to shit
Blow on it. Plug it in. Fixed 👌🏻
whatdatfor?
You can download the game and try it out
It's looking a bit on the hard side for those specs to run it smoothly though
Unless there's a dedicated GPU in there
i did i just cant solve the input lag problem, so wondering if this is why
it runs with less than ideal smoothness, but a 1 second lag between actions makes stealth difficult and fighting near impossible
Anyone have an issue where the game starts to launch, a unity window opens and then the game just quits?
Has been prolly asked a ton of times but has anyone had poor performance with Ryzen CPUs? Using a 3700x + RTX 2080 gave me 80-100fps at most which seems a bit on the low side considering the hardware?
I mean, if you can do 60+ FPS, you're good off
7700K and 1060 3GB does 45 FPS. Tried different settings, Vsync off, no change
I mean yeah doesnt really matter but its strange seeing friends with a GTX 1070 pull the same frames as me with a 2080 so I dont know if its the processor or just the optimisation.
Not really sure either
@zealous crypt it doesn't meet the official minimum requirements
An A8-5545M at 1.7GHz with its integrated Radeon HD 8510G will likely not be able to run the game well at decent settings, if it even runs at all
I'm going to be honest with you... I don't know how to check my fps.
would be great option for the game to include an fps and frametime counter
I haven't tried afterburner with RTSS yet
@fiery nacelle ty, which section has the min req posted?
it's under the #633424987889598484 channel
well, the game can run somewhat (albeit with much lower settings) even with hardware weaker than the official minimum requirements, but too much weaker and it would become an unplayable experience
Any ones budget pc actually able to run this game decently?
RX 580 paired with 2600 works well by one user
I have a little problems
When I fire a sniper&machine gun recoil make me spin really hard it's take 30 sec for stopspinning so when it stop my gun was broken like when I aim smtn and shoot it fire but not at my aim it's move to my left cornor below of the screen and sometime my hands come to close my screen in my aim sights too so I can use only use hammer
It spin like this video
I'm not good in english Sorry
Anyone get a hard crash yet?
@ebon wren That'd be one for #gtfo-technical-support
Not being mean, but they're the geniuses over there. 😆 I have no idea how to fix that.
hello
is that a hp i know hps anywhere and there bios ID lol its a dell
and if it is you will have a shit modded hp apu driver unless you went out of your way to install a newer driver and even then the apu on that thing is not wonderful
i get about 30fps at 540p on a potato ryzen 7 2700u running gtfo through proton 4.11 (without aco since that causes vertex explosions)
For anyone that wants an easy FPS counter, through steam.
Dunno if the second part is required, or if it's just part of the overlay function
In that case, you just need to activate the FPS counter.
heya guys, do ya know how to get better fps?
Hopefully the game's going to be more optimised by the time we reach open beta. I'm usually locked at 60, with a few occasional exceptions. Like yesterday when I dropped down to 50 for no reason. My GPU was at 80% usage while the CPU was idling at about 40%. I have absolutely no idea what caused the drop in performance.
my pc hot i ues AMD

2nd part is not required
And high contrast is also a nice color change since it highlights the FPS a somewhat grey color and the text color is a bright green
why the fug do they recommend 16 gb of ram!!!!!????
the staff doesnt wanna answer me 😡
what is the fug ?
Cuz RAM is life m8.
@hexed horizon Unpplugging ur HDMI won't blow ur GPU or anything, in fact it should just show the image again by simply plugging it back in
At worst it could break the HDMI, but that's probably not gonna happen, unless your luck is set to -3
Doesnt matter my PC just not working anymore lol
Well, shit
Idunno what happened it just won't boot
Cool!
"Did you try restarting"
Unsure if yesterday had anything to do with it
Doesnt turn off
I push the ON button on my computer case, the fans start working, but it wont boot
Is it a desktop computer?
Yes it is
So it starts and everything, but no image?
Well... Shit.
No red led on the bottom of the mouse, both of these have RGB settings
Dont even turn on
Did you ever check a PC connections internally?
Well im no magician
um hi, I got my gtfo from a friend, as a steam gift, and I have encountered a connection problem?
Doubt that's the problem, but if you "pulled the computer" or something, you may have any of those power supply cables badly placed, or something
Try to join your friend via Steam friends @left needle
Forget it you cant really help me with tips but thats fine i dont mind
I did 😦
I mean, it really could be something really simple
Wouldn't be the first PC I check that ain't working for something as simple as that :b
Ive been told to take my PC apart and rebuild it to fix any connection issues
What is the exact error you are getting tarr?
Hold up
there's another player in the team
Lmao
Could you check if your GPUs fans are working as well?
That's a bug, tarr.
but I can't see her and myself
oh ok 😛
@left needle I did mean the bug.
the bug happens everytime
Hmm, talk with @odd portal about that
ok, thank you (wait just realized this is pc build channel)
np
Well, rip
Hello guys When does the alpha test end?
@cedar talon today
@cedar talon u can play it even out of this time
if a player doesn't close the game and the alpha is over, you can still invite others to your game and play
so you just ask around for people who can invite you
Oh really??
ya
thank you!!!
10 euro pls
a haha you are very humorous zzzzz
hates humor.
oops... sorry,,
🙂 you are a very kind person dude 🙂
uh... like Kim Tae-won of the resurrection??
oops, sorry dude i misunderstood
because this hair style is very neat and tidy
And Korean students can't cut hair freely but that hair style is allowed
Don't know what I expected from this channel
Not dissapointed.
Best settings for someone with a good gpu but a horrible cpu??
What processes are most cpu heavy
set culling to low
mouse settings changed in game, it's so slow?
Increase sensitivity
changed it to 100 and it didn't do anything
why would it only change for one game?
Well it'll increase your mouse sensitivity, so it'll increase sensitivity on everything
could fullscreen have anything to do with it?
even tabbing out of the game with it running completely changed mouse settings
sooo the game runs like ABSOLUTE hell and I'm not sure why
any tips?
Feels like the game isn't touching my hardware.. GPU maxes out at 55% usage, CPU is 60% usage but the game maxes out at around 70 FPS with constant stutters.
Pretty much if you can do 60+ FPS, that's great
Average FPS for people atm is like, 30-45 FPS
Guess I'll just wait for the game to come out then.. Yes, 60+ is alright but I'm wishing the game actually used my PC's parts.
From what I've seen, my GPU is used at 100%, CPU used at like 20% ish. Maybe increasing CPU load will help?
flex
Whole room is dark
Lights are so damn dim
Anywaaaayyys
Still 40FPS average even after changing the settings on CPU load, etc Resulting the room to go so damn dark that I need flashlight to even see
that's good though
the darker the more immersive
which, so far, this game does a fantastic job at doing
x
I'm getting 60fps with the occasional complete screen stutter down to 56 fps; but it locks my screen for half a second. Any advice?
@wild crescent get a 3900x 1080ti and overclock your ram. No, wait for optimizations
🙂
All machines are having that right now, as well as when the creatures come some oddities
ah ok; thank you
dude all this time ive been running cpu culling at 'small'and thought the stutering was just the game
After setting to extreme it actually feels like real 70fps now
No matter what I set it to, 40 FPS
Although it looked smooth at times while still showing 45 FPS on the counter
Pupper's what is your cpu / gpu reading when the game is running by chance?
?
Like if you have task manager up is it maxing out the cpu or graphics card?
GPU maxed, CPU at 20%
What is the GPU?
1060 3GB
It almost sounds like if culling doesn't help your GPU is the issue
How many screens?
2560x1440p 60Hz, 1600x900 60hz
Does the game run good on AMD GPUs? Like Radeon Vega 56, for example.
User ran game good with 580 and 2600 at 60+
I have a gtx 1070 OC and get 70fps at 1440p. so ur fps with 1060 3gb sounds about right
Ohh, alright.
Kek, ill have to try that next beta testing
@wide notch not sure, just try it out. I think alpha is still live
I don't have money to buy that GPU now, XD. That's why I'm asking.
the engine is unity if that helps
Ohh, really? This game uses Unity?
Wow, amazing.
pretty sure they were running older gtx models
something about uni, you can just tell its a unity game by the graphics. but yeah it definately is
So you should be able to get by with a mid range fx card
hopefully they sort out optimizations. shouldnt be getting 70fps with 1070 on low settings...
my specs
Ryzen 5 3400G
Radeon RX 570 Nitro 4GB
16GB G.Skill Ripjaws DDR4-3200
WD Blue M.2 SSD
ASROCK B450M-HDV R2.0
fps?
1080p60
whats ur cpu usage like?
I can hit 150 FPS just well in menus /s
yeah same but menu fps doesnt matter XD
:(
What does culling actually do?
^^
^ this
TL-DR: it disables objects outside of your FOV, for optimization purposes
Since your PC won't render them, you'll gain FPS.
I assume GTFO's "CPU Culling" option is basically:
- Low: prioritize using GPU time for culling
- High: prioritize using CPU time for culling
not a gtfo dev but that's as much as I think I understood about that option
@north bronze thanks
When you enter the game, says that to play without problems requires 6 RAM and does not allow to enter the game, how to fix it?
what kind of card does the game need for 2560x1440? 1070 any good for that still?
probs not
I'm using a 980Ti with I7-6600K+16Gb RAM for 2560x1440. My FPS hang around 58-59 and sometime goes to 55.
A 1070 is equivalent on a 980Ti, You should get similar result depending on your ram+CPU. And the CPU Culling option (mine at medium)
thanks. I've not upgraded from 1920x1200 to that resolution yet, but I may before long, and I'm not getting a new card until the next gen comes out at the very least so I was curious how well or poorly it would run
Guys I need help figuring out if my PSU is bad or not. I have 2 graphics cards lying around. One of them is a costum GTX 980 Ti with around 300-320W power consumption. The other one is an old GTX 470 (that I have for test purposes) with around 200-220W power consuption.
Both cards run far below their rated clocks since sunday.
On both cards the memory clocks are the idle memory clocks during load, and on the GTX 470 the core clocks are around 60% of the rated max clocks. Voltage is lower than it should be during full load. On my GTX 980 Ti the core clocks are jumping between idle and around 50-60% of the rated clocks like 135MHz-600MHz-900MHz-135MHz or something like this. The voltage is lower than it should be during full load.
GTX 980Ti are very power hungry. what your PSU?
650W Bitfenix Formula
It worked for around 1,5 years with the 980 Ti
until the weekend
You are already at 80% of power consumption with both card. What left is for every other PC component
I would understand if it would have been wrong since I used it this way... but it was working for 1,5 years without any issues
I'm not much of a tech savvy, but maybe it's component natural deterioration over time. giving less then the initial value.
Yeah, probably
Thats what I was thinking as well, altough it seemed a bit drammatic to me
Like being able to supply 100 less watts from one day to the other
Even more than 100, because it seems like the GTX 470 doesnt get enough power either
Probably one phase just died
hey guys im looking for a new cpu, what should i get i got atm a Intel® Core™ i5 7500 (3.40GHz/6MB)
i would agree PSU are known to lose efficiency over some time, particularly when there taxed alot and you seem to be taxing it heavily. I would suggest at least a 1k watt PSU for dual cards to give yourself a nice buffer @silent spear
A 750 or 850 PSU would work too. And upgrading the GPU since we all know the 980Ti is very power hungry compared to the 1000 / 2000 series.
yah an 850 prob be ok, but that wont leave you much room for future proofing
a good PSU is worth every penny, a bad one can cause so much more trouble then a few bucks saved is worth
My friend had a bad PSU that burned most of his brand new PC part. Took him a while to request a replacement on all his broken PC component
Luckily it did for him.
phew!
It looks like the GTX 470 can reach its clocks now because the BIOS recognized it as a PCIE gen 1 card.... and it kept it back so hard
And I changed the slot to gen 3 (the card is 2.0 tho)
Maybe I should try it with the 980 Ti as well, then
bottom line your PSU is dying/dead prob already down 1 phase witch means your overworking it hard now, it will die prob sooner then later, thats not to mention all the potential damage it would cause to your other parts, replace it ASAP
not to sound bossy, but if your hardware could thank you it would 😛
I will replace it to a 750W or 850W quality PSU then 🙂 I have to wait until the weekend tho
try not to tax it in the mean time, and hope for the best!
Okay! I have to use my computer till then, but running it without heavy load shouldnt cause too much problems
Also, I only had 1 GPU in the system at any time
not both
your prob under 250 watts with a non gpu intensive program
maybe even dc one of the cards
i assume the secondary is for displays like mine
ahh
that really comes down to board manufacturer's
the 980 is a solid card at up to 80c easy thoe
Its a gigabyte G1... but I replaced the cooler
To an aftermarket arctic accelero
xtreme 3
it does appear to have some form of heatsync/grill
on the VRM
prob nothing to worry about there
And the heatsinks fell of the VRMs in a few days after replacing it.
replacing the cooler i mean
ohhh, well.....
yah a fan is not nearly as good as a decent sync
the fan works because its drawking heat off an extended surface are (the sync), on raw chips its not nearly as effective
yes
thats true
The problem was, that I couldnt really get my heatsinks to get stuck on the VRMs
the vrms were too small
yah its an older board, prob have a hard time finding parts for it
might look into swapping that out too, might be cheaper then trying to repair it
The aftermarket cooler I have on it goes up on pretty much any recent board
No specific components for any boards
Damn, I was so unlucky
The only problem with swapping it out, is that if I buy a GPU I want more power from it than the one I had before... And currently I dont have money for high end cards
eh, sounds like it had a good run, could have just caught fire and ruined everything 😛
Btw, do you think that PSU or that VRM is the problem for the 980Ti frequencies?
I am not sure if theres any damage to any of those
well if your power is not 100% stable then you will get all sorts of weird things going on
hard to say without putting in a new one first, but im sure having no sync is not helping
heat is a major favor in freq stability
factor^
sounds PSU bound to me, the fact thats its happening on all slots kinda nails it down
one could just be the board, or the slot, but both is very likely the PUS
i wouldn't be surprised is you saw some cpu throttling too
The GTX 470 appears to be working now tho, even on high load. I am getting the freqeuncies, the slot was set to pcie gen 1 by the bios when I put the card in, switching it fixed that issue
There is no CPU throttling
Ryzen 5 1600 @3,8GHz
And the heat is fine
it may not be turning on the cap till you go under full load
temps around 40-45 idle, 60-70 full load
you have to peak it out.. but that could be risky
celsius
waits for dinnie to vanish from chat
lol
i personally always go with a Corsair PSU, great warrenty and ive never had to use it
I was thinking to pick up a corsair one
Mine a Corsair RM850i Gold. Can't go wrong with corsair PSU imo
The price tho...
you get what you pay for, and a PSU is not something you want to go cheap on imo
If there one component I rather pay a bit more. it's the PSU so it don't fry my other very expensive PC part
get a sexy modular with cable managment o.0
yes its enough, but your gonna be pushing it at prob 75-80% of capacity under load
i just like a good margin, keeps the PSU cool and running easy
Alright
depending on your case fit it might be inportant too, like if the PSU is under the GPU's
The psu is under the gpu, by around 10 cm
Then I should opt for 850W?
a PSU that runs cooler under the same load or has an active cooling is prob better
Okay
I will get a new PSU until the weekend and see if it works. I hope the GPU didnt got damaged much
yah just run a benchmark after see how it compares with others
just a question as my pc just sort of borked up and am looking for advice on how to find out why and maybe update
my pc sort of powered down and wouldnt turn back on for a bit, took off the side plate and noticed my cpu cooling fan is weak already planning on replacing
but i wanted to update my cpu from an AMD FC 6 core up to a AMD FX 8-Core FX-8350
or is there something better to go with
is about 5 ish years old but dont have the funds to fully replace yet
i use it as a gaming/streaming rig and general office computer
though i dont have the funds for it know would love to keep this one as a general office pc and have a new one that can do streaming/gaming
what's the full specifications?
760GM-P23 motherboard
AMD FC 6 core 3.5 GHz
16GB ram
ev3a 600w power
oh and NVIDIA GeForce GTX750 GPU
already know it needs updates cause for some reason anytime i run re4 it bogs down the cpu so hard
I mean the reason is probably that FX was awful
Don’t let the clocks fool you, the number of things it could do with one clock was terrible.
Best thing to do right now is just upgrade to Ryzen
And get a new GPU later down the line
the only reason was going with the AMD FX 8-Core FX-8350 is cause it was recommended from a friend
sort of recommended it cause it would be compatible with the motherboard and GPU
as you say ryzen any particular?
if you don't intend to buy a new GPU...
there is no point to upgrade from the FX 6-series to an FX 8-series
The FX 6-series would run the GTX 750 just fine
In your case, you'll find most recent games to be bogged down by the GTX 750 too
well when i try playing newer ish games clock says my cpu is running at near full capacity
clock?
you mean the task manager right?
the CPU % utilization?
hmmm, could the GPU % utilization also be full capacity?
ye but it runs though my keyboard display and manual calls it a clock assume it just says that cause it also can display that
yes
the title is CPU utilization right?
just says cpu gives a % bar and ram %bar
hmmm, not sure how accurate that would be though
true
ah wait, its Logitech Arx control
should be accurate
it's just that the CPU% may fluctuate
so it can hit 100% at times, but may not always stay there?
in the region of 80% to 100%
when playing say AAA games like Anthem, Insurgency Sandstorm, Gears 5, etc?
ye but older games like re 7 witcher 3 deadspace 1 and 2
and i had to basicly stop playing darksouls cause it couldnt handle the game
tried playing sekrio but had so many frame drops that i couldnt see anything
what resolutions and settings do you play these games at?
720 at most but would go lower on high movement sections with mid settings or just turning off the options if it wasnt needed to run
normally one would say at such low graphics demand, that would then be a CPU bottleneck scenario, but a GTX 750 is so weak, am not sure in your case though
sudden freezes and frame drops more likely is due to CPU, or even low RAM
never seem to have a problem with ram as its 16gb
and run 2 monitors
also when i got it a friend who actually knows this stuff did a thing that stops my from topping out at 13 as they explained it
true, at 16GB RAM it should be enough
well, one way to decrease CPU load is to unload all un-necessary activity from the CPU when playing games
not going to be possible if you like streaming or doing something else simultaneously
e.g. quitting all other game launchers but the one you need, close wallpaper engine, close browser(s), bittorent client, CCLeaner & other utilities monitoring, etc
would it just be cheaper to go for a full new rig or part it out
cause im honnestly hoping to only spend at most 300- 400
it's a tough call in your case
CPU - 9700K OC 5.0Ghz
MB - ASUS ROG STRIX Z390 F Gaming
RAM - Patriot 32Gb OC 4000Mhz 19 21 21 41
SSD - Samsung 970 PRO 512Gb
SSD - Samsung 860 PRO 2Tb
Videocard - Palit RTX 2080 Ti GamingPro OC
Power - Sea Sonic Electronics PRIME Platinum 850W
Case - Cooler Master H500M
Cooler - Alphacool Eisbaer Extreme Liquid 280 Black Edition
Is it enough for Ultra 2k gaming at GTFO and RDR2?
Don't know if you're trolling or not but uh
yes
Should be enough for just about all games
Dunno what Ultra 2K is but it would probably run 4K 60FPS fine
Ive also noticed 30-60 fps with max 60% GPU usage
Cpu max 25%
2070s
3900x
3440x1440 resolution
16gb
i have just 8GB RAM with 1060 gtx 6 gm in laptop and it was enough to play in 1080p/30 fps and record my game at 720p/60 fps
cpu culling should be set to low if your GPU's good
when you find out yoru PC is below minspec
oof
Ey, even below that you can run the game properly with low settings. I'm below min specs I think and I have a very stable 30 FPS that is still very much playable.
I'm hearing people getting performance issues on 2080Ti's and 9900K's. I run an RTX 2070/4790K and was able to record it at 1080p60 with a pretty stable 100fps. Not ALWAYS constant, but pretty consistent nonetheless.
My brother also uses a GTX 1080/9900K and it ran fine. The performance seems to be a case by case type of problem
I run a Dual GTX 970 and an i5-6600K and got little to no stutter.
I’m just happy GTFO isn’t a CPU hog unlike almost every Ubisoft game.
6600k running happy and healthy
unlike the motherboard it’s on
im quite happy that my build can play this game
what’re you running? @static echo
Wdym mobo brain
processor
._.
lol
My chipset heatspreader fucked me over.
Doesn’t adequately draw heat off anymore
My PC fails POST at least twice on boot because of the initial power surge
So guess who has to buy new shit
consider changing it
i use generic mobo
im surprise it run to be honest even thou it not 60 fps probably gonna tweak the setting when the game open again
Shadows take a lot of ‘umph’
Lowering shadow detail can help increase FPS significantly.
I didn’t change my FOV the first couple games lol
well not is that bad i can still play the game
Finally changed it to 90 on Thursday
Tried 120 but didn’t feel like playing zombie Quake LOL
lol
Ryzen 5 2600x
GTX 1070 8gb
16gb RAM
Work fine in me in high , almost 80 FPS and IT moves between 59 and 70
On*
from what i see i realy need upgrade my ram from 8 to 16
most posts with 16gb are 50+ fps
concluding from posts also any cpu above i5 6k and any gpu higher than gtx 1050 are good
8gb is becoming the bare minimum for small tasks like document writing, presentations, browsing etc
16gb is pretty good for gaming and multitasking
^
Can i run the game with 8 gigs of ram/1030 graphics card?
yee
yeehaw
received my new components
backing up data on this computer before i put a new mobo, cpu and 1tb m.2 ssd in
I had no idea m.2 ssds were that small
I’d buy.
Wish they had a version with slight underclock / lower TBP target at 180 watts, 2.5 slot, with dual 95 / 100 mm fans
Lmao how good is that GPU
not sure about quality of cards made by Yeston though
Kek guess we’ll have to see
im thinking of upgrading to grpahics to a RX 580 Armor Mk2. Has anyone dealt with that or have any reviews on it?
@carmine gyro superb card, plain and simple
damn that feels good, and I can still use my PC while compiling
also near instant intellisense
💕
oh I thought you were getting a 3900x
Roll on Xmas = Sapphire Radeon 5700xt Nitro+ pure 😍😍
hey guys im looking for a new cpu, what should i get i got atm a Intel Core i5 7500
I5 9600k is an underrated cpu. Beats any i7 Upto the 7700k. Good overclock cpu and has been recorded to run 5ghz pretty stable
Depends on your use
That's my next cpu ^^^
@tight agate I would look at a new mobo as well. I run my 9600k on a z390
i have intel 😭
get a new mobo as well then 
Admire, true beauty.
what do u think
Don, I see you're a man of putting things where they don't belong 
Now this, this is how it should look.
A brick for a GPU and a graham cracker for a processor.
7940X, and a 1080 Ti.
I was close
32GB ram, PCIe SSD, Two M.2 SSD, almost a functional HDD bridge,
that's hot, Labcat
Lol I read 328GB of ram. My brain said "what the fa-doodle"
Show us what underneath. Lift the skirt.
I wanna see all that jammed in there.
No puns intended.
t h a t ' s h o t
Jesus Christ that ketchup and mustard. You laughed in the face of God when you built this didn't you?
I had to put electrical tape on a row of copper pushers that keeps the backplate pushed in place, because it was dangerously close to the MB. If so be that computer god wished me death, he would have smited me then and there at first boot.
I'm unsure if this is before or after I fixed the cables.
Maintenance must be a pain
Yes, absolutely!
What's maintenance? LULW
Mostly because removing the water cooling must be done in one piece.
How long does it take?
Around 40 minutes to remove the CPU.
How often do you flush the system?
What exactly is being watercooled. I see the GPU but CPU as well or na. I can't imagine a decent heatsink fitting in there.
Especially not a Noctua cooler.
Air won't really fit, at all. Clearance isn't great.
What are we talking about in t e m p s?
GPU has a AIO loop, CPU has a custom loop.
I imagine pull from the front and push out back is your fan setup.
No, pull from side and back, push from the front.
Actually works great, from what I have noticed.
Whats your standard temps for your hardware at full load though?
Full load, from what I noticed from DosBox trying to max all 14 cores, 28 threads, was around 64 degrees.
That's not bad at all.
It runs at 30/20 Idle, CPU/GPU.
Well done sir. A masterpiece sleeper you have here.
Dem temps are better than mine.
Well, yeah, there's the thing with the fans.
36mm delta's.
Not to mention that the custom loop uses a 41mm thick radiator.
Custom made, even.
41mm thick???? Jesus
So yeah, it can get loud as an absolute monster, but it's acceptably loud when not on heavy load.
How much water goes into your system? 2 gallons?
Yeah, I wanted to get a 50mm, but there wasn't room.
If one gallon is roughly one rainboot, then I don't know, around 500-700mL, I forgot how much I put in.
Half a rainboot.
I'm just happy it completely aired itself as soon as I ran the pump.
All I have is a closed loop AIO on my CPU. Runs the same temps as you though.
Lost more room for air in the case though
😅
That shows airflow is just a myth 
Try only pushing air and not pulling. I did it as an experiment on my rig and couldn't get past boot.
POST*
Well, I brute forced mine practically. And also, apart from being an 7940X, I run it at 4.8GHz, and it hit 64 degrees because it it was also single core boosting at the same time.
So it is not all equal, to put it lightly.
Airflow is important to a point, and efficiency and airflow is always important.
That's 4.8GHz all cores.
Just what I need to run HOMM3 perfectly fine.
there is not really people who build new pc just for this simple game or??
A few people probably did @abstract kite
parts of it are, I know my PC struggled with some areas and I've got a fairly decent mid range setup
Unity doesn't have the best pipeline, but it's certainly not the worst. They seem to know what they're doing in terms of optimization too so I would expect it to improve a bit by final release
What's wrong with Unity?
It's a perfectly reasonable engine to use
And it's really not that bad in terms of optimization, the only time I had issues were when a horde was spawning personally
if your computer is running jerky, I would take a look at what your hardware is before assuming it's all the games fault
gtx 970 and so you know
i5 4460
perfectionism
top hardware
cant have more for buck
but enough for this simple game
nah I wouldn't argue that
They're using some pretty fancy shaders
your GPU is likely struggling with them
shaders?
yeah
the bits of video games that make things look nice
not the objects themselves, but how those objects are seen if that makes sense
i know basic game dev
but i never understood shaders
except that hey can make stuff look cartoony or
or give them more fresnel
but thats it or?
I mean shaders can be used to do those things yes
you cant really change the shader to make it look photorealisticer?
you mean like explosion shader?
but even then.. shader should be the least part which takes on the hardware
an explosion can be done via a shader, but it doesn't have to be, usually it'd be a hybrid of multiple tools, including shaders
lots of moving objects/Physics simulation/shaders are generally going to make up most of what the GPU is trying to work through
I mean there's lots of opportunities for bottlenecks, I just generally assume graphics are going to be the first place you'd see them. Especially since most of the time there's not much going on, except for when the horde comes, then the CPU could be bottleknecked while trying to calculate what each monster should be doing, but it could still be the GPU bottleneck trying to render all those moving monsters
for me it sounds like that doesnt take any cpu at all
"what the creatures will do"
that game is not some high quality a.i. lol
simple path finding etc
that takes no computing at all if you ask me
are you telling me there code is more evolved that the newest far cry?
Keep in mind neither of us know the implementation details
I'm speaking bonly to where likely causes of jitter are coming in
"simple pathfinding" is not that simple either
Are you a developer that's worked on games before?
no but when you make 100 guys path finding in UE4 it runs smooth as hell
and their own code doesnt make my system jitter every 12 seconds
so in an engine that this game isn't based on, it works in an isolated test that doesn't account for all the other variables at play?
no idea 😄
exactly lol
and you can prove that how?
GTFO is it's own project with it's own developers
its your typical left 4 dead
you literally cannot compare it to any other game
i do tho
is the code base the same as other projects yes or no?
ffs compare it to other games with same machanics
this is the only game with shitty performance for me
yeah you can't do that
so its just a bug
who cares about bases
and the reason why you can't say well it can't be A becuase in other game, A is not the issue
@void perch admin do you wanna argue with us?
if you look at something like Call of Duty, or even Left for Dead
and what do you fix right now?
those kinds of games share code with previous revisions of the same title
in those situations, you can absolutely draw some comparisons about where bugs went or what causes what
you have none of that with GTFO so it's all just speculation
having worked on games in Unity myself, I've seen some things that could cause issues, using educated guesses and my own experience, you're just pointing at random stuff that holds no bearing
yeah and probably i am right because i am not that educated into this topic.
because i see thigns differently
:smart:
I have no clue how educated you are, nor do I really care tbh
I'm just trying to show you some things but you're fighting with me so I'm gonna stop, hopefully the issues you experienced are gone by EA or full release, sorry I couldn't help more
Seems people prefer getting a 3700X over a 3600 
Maybe I’ll check on it and consider
I wish I waited for 3### but I ended up with a 2600X
2600X isn’t so bad at least
but singlecore
But I do know that apparently 3600 beat the 2700 and below?
I have a more multi core oriented workload for my home PC, AMD made more sense for my last upgrade
I have 7700K for best single thread perf
Fucking 350$ or something like that but I guess it was on sale
Pretty sure it did
lmao
I paid $185 for mine 😄
the other nice reason to go AMD 😛
Kek
Plus, who knows, maybe one day games will actually be able to saturate a multicore chip
Well is there anything special about the 3700X that makes it stand out above the 3600?
Generally I don't think the X varient makes much sense for anyone but the people at the top end
whatever chip you're gonna buy, drop the x and get that one
Dunno if they have a 3700 lmao
I’m planning on getting 3600/5700XT
Also it seems CPUs are being released almost constantly lmao
the 700x was always superior to 600
Of course it is lmao
by huge amount
But like what is it good with in comparison
do you wanna be poor and weak? 😦
take 2600
you wanna be superior?
you know how to do that
@fleet canopy i dont think you should even be allowed to pick the parts by your own...
if you want a good system
lol okay
ive heard its very bad to make your own
I’ve had the build planned and changed over two months or something idk lmao
doesnt make it better
And I’ve constantly asked for help and changed it over time lmao
lmao
Dummy lmao
yeah I wouldn’t worry evangelion
thats like playing gtfo with 25 leaders
I would never actually get a build without asking for help lol
I only take from what people say and check by what they recommend with price and perf
How is it a big error?
Explain to me how literally a huge amount of people did just what I did
just price and perf is not enough isnt it?
u need full superb consultant
not 234234 guys who tell you what to do
o-o
that sounsd sooo funny
You’re saying I should learn how to build a pc
You are literally saying I should not do what I do lmao
because i dont know it different
I don’t see how it’s bad taking advice and recommendations from people
I’ve read up a little bit
It’s simply asking for help, and picking out what seems good with what they say about it, by checking the price and specs of the parts, so you can have a list of parts that are good to the budget and exceeds your expectations on what it’s performance should be
and like, 3600 would probably be better than the 3700x
see. now you choose yourself of possible "good" candidats
i dont think that is smart
2 cores plus 4 threads more and only 0.2 GHz isn’t smart either for about 100$ more
Did someone hurt you @abstract kite? Why are you like this? You just been trolling the Discord server everytime I see you.
nobody hurt me and i m not trolling
You’re not gunna get any extra out of the 3700x than you’d get out of the 3600
you are absolutely trolling lmao
You’re only getting a little more performance which wouldn’t affect so much lol
Literally no difference gameplay wise and iirc you don’t stream/do heavy cpu tasks mayo
so yeah, go 3600
Any difference to it? Seems to be 0.2GHz more from what I remember
Only a little bought the 3600X
And yeah, a dark rock 4
Not the pro version, seemed too much at the end
nice lookin cooler there
I had a Hyper Cooler 212 Evo that just fit literally any cpu you threw at it, until I switched to AMD
Yeah I’m going with a black/red aesthetic for my build
best $20 I ever spent
Maybe, but having a non-stock is better than staying with a stock if I ever were to overclock it
you can overclock 3700x?
no idea XD
im just..... dumbing around
<-< i am stupid ok
here you have it @mystic pasture
but i am not trolling i swear
im just bala bala, like a duck who circles around a fontain
Okay Mr Duck-Who-Circles-Around-A-Fountain
I’m your favorite person, Dumb American
Hm, it seems he did not process my message correctly 
I was referring Dumb American as myself
When is the last time he did process something correctly?
@fleet canopy then you have to learn where to place comma
I’m your favorite person dumb American
I’m your favorite person, a Dumb American
I’m your host, Y2K!
-> a <-
Umm, pretty sure comma went in the right place.
but a was missing
I’m your host Y2K!
